[00:00] <blackshirt> googol30, try to ping inet site
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> ed_moulton: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> ed_moulton: if you run:    xev   in a terminal and press things on the joystick and move stuff, do you see events in the terminal?
[00:01] <Googol30> I'm guessing "unknown host google.com" means I screwed something up?
[00:01] <devrand0m> ping 8.8.8.8
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: probably bad dns, does devrand0m's command reply ok?
[00:01] <devrand0m> cat /etc/resolv.conf ?
[00:01] <Kellur> ActionParsnip: No clue...  but I think I figured out more about this problem. Firefox says the file type is unknown.
[00:01] <blackshirt> googol30, look at /etc/resolv.conf
[00:03] <Googol30> I set that up according to http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html up to the "define new DNS server" part.
[00:04] <almoxarife> Googol30: setting a static ip on the box is ok if the router will accept the number, does it?
[00:05] <Polarisr> I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit and installed compiz settings manager but wobbly windows and desktop cube are not in the settings manager any help or ideas would be a big help
[00:05] <almoxarife> box > router > modem > internet <-- that your setup Googol30...
[00:05] <blackshirt> googol30, if you sit behind router, you should doing nat
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Polarisr: check for extra compiz plugin packages in software centre
[00:06] <Polarisr> ok
[00:08] <Googol30> I don't remember if I had a working connection anytime after editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, but I haven't touched anything after that to my memory.  I have changed some settings on the router in relation to not having the internal IP lease expire, or something along those lines.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf; sudo apt-get update
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: better?
[00:11] <tjbiddle> anyone have experience with setting ulimit within an upstart (/etc/init) script?
[00:21] <chocka> Hi, I have a question regarding partitioning
[00:23] <chocka> Hi All, I have a question regarding partitioning
[00:23] <escott> chocka, just ask
[00:23] <chocka> I am planning to buy a new laptop
[00:24] <chocka> I started using ubuntu 1 yr ago
[00:24] <Guest53318> anbody want to help fix network issue just installed connman and now cant get on netowrk so tried uninstalling but network manager will not shw up
[00:24] <Guest53318> am on the same machine via usb boot
[00:24] <Googol30> Sorry... afk... upon running everything past "run"... there's "Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'" among other error messages... I'm pretty sure I don't have internet on my Ubuntu box now.
[00:24] <KI4RO> .
[00:25] <giannaras> kalispera
[00:25] <Googol30> I, however, can connect to the apache server it's running.
[00:25] <giannaras> einai kaneis pou n milaei ellhnika;; as erthei prive sos
[00:25] <escott> Googol30, can you "ping 8.8.8.8"
[00:25] <Guest53318> how to fix network manager...
[00:25] <almoxarife> Googol30: when you went about going static , did you remove 'networkmanager' ?
[00:26] <Googol30> when I ping 8.8.8.8 it says "Destination Host Unreachable"
[00:26] <chocka> not only I like it very much, I also use it for my research. I do run calculation based on fortran programming and each run gives data approximately 200 mb. My current partitioning is only 10 GB, so each time I have to move my data from previous runs to other systems to do new calc. I plan to buy a 1 TB hdd laptop. I wish to have 500 GB for Ubuntu. What would be a good scheme for Ubuntu partition with 500 GB
[00:26] <Netbus> Greetings from the internet!
[00:27] <Googol30> And how would I have gone about removing "networkmanager", even accidentally?
[00:27] <almoxarife> Googol30: the static ip you chose, does your router accept it? or can you ping your router?
[00:28] <Googol30> I can ping my router, as well as connect to it on this computer on the apache2 webserver it's running.
[00:29] <Googol30> So apparently I don't have a WAN connection on my Ubuntu box, but I do have a LAN connection.
[00:30] <almoxarife> Googol30: when i set my server to static i purged 'networkmanager' , especially if you are using /etc/network/interfaces with static entries
[00:30] <giannaras> kalispera
[00:30] <giannaras> ellhnika kanenas;;;
[00:30] <giannaras> as erthei prive einai anagkh sos
[00:31] <dfa> hello.... anybody so kind to give this newbie a little help? :)
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: sounds like you need a router reboot
[00:32] <dfa> hi ActionParsnip... could i please bother you for another 5 minutes today as well?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> dfa: ask away
[00:32] <dfa> you helped me last time with alacarte...
[00:32] <dfa> ok
[00:32] <Googol30> I'll try purging networkmanager first, if that doesn't work, I'll restart the Ubuntu box, and if that doesn't work, I'll resort to rebooting the router... first things first though... how do I purge 'networkmanager'?
[00:33] <dfa> so i installed icecat as follows: wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/17.0/icecat-17.0.1-64bit.tar.gz; tar xzf icecat-17.0.1-64bit.tar.gz; sudo mv icecat-17.0.1 /usr/local/lib; sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/icecat-17.0.1/icecat /usr/local/bin/icecat;
[00:33] <almoxarife> Googol30: sudo apt-get purge networkmanager
[00:33] <dfa> since it's not workiing correctly i was wondering: did i do something wrong?
[00:33] <damian_> HI Everybody what about linux mint? I have installed kde now
[00:33] <almoxarife> Googol30: sudo apt-get purge networkmanager* <-- better yet (*)
[00:33] <dfa> i mean it works and everything but kinda slow and some pages don't load well or dont load at all.....
[00:33] <escott> chocka, nothing there to really recommend any particular partitioning scheme over another. you just need bigger parttion
[00:34] <escott> dfa, what is icecat
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> !info icecat-
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> !info icecat
[00:35] <dfa> i went to the icecat channel but nobody there.... nobody answered me.....
[00:35] <chocka> escott: When alocating bigger partitioning, documentation says things abt separate partitioning for swap /usr /tmp etc. I Just do not have a good handle on these things. So, just wish to know what would be a good scheme for a 500 GB ubuntu paritioning?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> dfa: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[00:35] <dfa> ok another question: how do i uninstall/remove it?
[00:36] <ikonia> remove the tar file and remove the link
[00:36] <ikonia> (I'm assuming it untared to an isolated directory)
[00:36] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, hey there.  I was over at ed_moulton's house and ended up bringing the joystick here. I'm still on Xubuntu but 12.04 at my house.  What's the best way to make this thing work?
[00:37] <dfa> output is: brigantia
[00:37] <escott> chocka, you dont have to partition for any of those if you dont want to. the standard recommendation is to make a partition for a swap partition that is 2xRAM, but if you have a lot of ram that may not matter. in any case 2xRAM should not be a significant portion of a 1TB disk
[00:37] <ikonia> what ?
[00:38] <starfish> cats =)
[00:38] <Googol30> Purging network manager seems to have no immediately noticeable effect on the connection.
[00:39] <Googol30> I'm restarting the computer.
[00:39] <almoxarife> Googol30: did you stop networkmanager?
[00:39] <ikonia> why would removing network manager change the status of a connection ?
[00:39] <chocka> escott: so, if the RAM is 8 GB, 16 GB for swap and whatever space we want for ubuntu, say 400 GB, would be fine, right? Nothing else to specify, just go ahead with automatic partitioning..
[00:39] <Googol30> No... I guess I should stop it first then... that would make sense.
[00:39] <escott> chocka, sure it can be that simple, or you can make it more complex if you want
[00:40] <dfa> is there a browser other than firefox that supports certificates and saves logins and passwords? (midori doesn't...)
[00:40] <ikonia> dfa: why are you not using firefox
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> dfa: then it's not ubuntu
[00:40] <Cheech> why would you ever need 16gb for swap? curious
[00:40] <ikonia> what's the issue with it
[00:40] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, jtest-gtk...
[00:40] <almoxarife> dfa: chromium/chrome
[00:40] <texta> Ahoy, can someone help me with an annoying pulseaudio issue?
[00:40] <dfa> it's trisquel
[00:40] <ikonia> if your machine is using 16GB of swap, it's already dead
[00:40] <ikonia> dfa: it's what ?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> dfa: ask in #Trisquel
[00:40] <chocka> escott: Thanks. It is going to be a single user, just me. So, what you suggested would be fine. Thanks again.
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: yet another ubuntu spinoff
[00:40] <ikonia> dfa: why are you not using firefox
[00:41] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: fantastic, thank you
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: like we need more
[00:41] <dfa> ActionParsnip you are my favorite..... please let me get help from you.....
[00:41] <ikonia> dfa: sorry, we only deal with ubuntu here
[00:41] <ikonia> ActionParsnip is welcome to help you in private of course
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> dfa: ask in the channel for your distro
[00:42] <dfa> not using firefox cuz i want to be a follower of rms :)
[00:43] <Googol30> How do I stop networkmanager... I feel like doing something like that would be obvious but I haven't done anything correct today.
[00:43] <chocka> ikonia: I am looking for help for parititioning a new laptop with 1 TB hdd for dual boot. I prefer 500 GB for ubuntu
[00:43] <ikonia> chocka: then do that
[00:43] <ikonia> Googol30: why do you want to do that ?
[00:43] <almoxarife> Googol30: pkill NetworkManager
[00:43] <Googol30> ^ he said so
[00:43] <almoxarife> Googol30: yes, caps
[00:43] <ikonia> why ?
[00:44] <ikonia> what do you hope to get by stopping the utility that manages your network interface
[00:44] <Googol30> networking issues
[00:44] <ikonia> thats pretty generic
[00:44] <almoxarife> ikonia: he wants straight static, mainline
[00:44] <ikonia> almoxarife: so ?
[00:44] <ikonia> configure a static IP in network manger
[00:44] <ikonia> manager
[00:45] <chocka> ikonia: you said 16 GB for swap means computer is dead.. ?
[00:45] <ikonia> chocka: if your machine is using 16GB of swap, your machine will be dead, yes
[00:45] <Cheech> lol
[00:45] <almoxarife> ikonia: so/??? his call, not mine, is box, his decision?
[00:45] <ikonia> almoxarife: he said you told him to remove it.....
[00:46] <dfa> AP.... i am in the other room.... i see you entered and left.... i am there now....
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> chocka: 20Gb /, 1.1xRAM for swap, the rest for /home
[00:46] <almoxarife> Googol30: when i set my server to static i purged 'networkmanager' , especially if you are using /etc/network/interfaces with static entries <-- that is what i said! ikonia...
[00:46] <ikonia> sheesh
[00:46] <Cheech> I thought swap was for older machines that starved for ram, i use no swap with no probs
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> chocka: you need it if you want hibernate / suspend
[00:47] <ikonia> swap can help you make use of your ram better too
[00:47] <ikonia> a little bit of swap is good
[00:47] <Cheech> i have 3gig or ram, i guess i dont do much with system though
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> plus you will hardly miss 16Gb
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> chocka: for 3Gb RAM, you'll want 3.3Gb swap :)
[00:48] <chocka> ikonia: I went thru the ubuntu documentation for partitioning, but I couldn't  understand, as it said for large paritioning with ubuntu, swap /etc /usr should all be in separate parition, thats why I raised this question
[00:49] <ikonia> chocka: there is no need for that
[00:49] <ikonia> and it didn't say that
[00:49] <Googol30> Specifically, if you must know, I am attempting to run a dedicated Minecraft server on Ubuntu Server, and I thought that port forwarding was specific to an internal IP.  My router's DHCP settings expire internal IPs every day, thus... at least with my understanding of networking, Ubuntu, and Minecraft, I would give the box a static IP.
[00:49] <ikonia> as /etc CANNOT be a seperate partition
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> chocka: you don't need /usr on it's own partition
[00:49] <ikonia> chocka: I suggest you read again as you've not read it properly
[00:49] <chocka> actionparsnip: ok, if laptop is 8 GB RAM?
[00:49] <Nach0z> um. Googol30 you can set manual IPs via your network config, depending on what service you're using fr DHCP. I usually set chattr +i on my network config file in that case
[00:50] <escott> chocka, in modern systems very few things can be on their own partition, /var, /home, and /boot can be on their own partition, having /usr on its own partition can cause problems
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> chocka: 8.8Gb swap, unless you don't want hibernate / suspend then you can probably get away with 4Gb swap if your use is going to be web browsing and chatting
[00:50] <Nach0z> and the router accepts it, as long as it's outside of what other computers will normally use.
[00:50] <dfa> ActionParsnip should i wait for you in the other room? i was there but not looking at it when you entered.....
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> dfa: i'm a little busy here
[00:51] <almoxarife> Googol30: you can make the router reserve the ip of the what ever to a specific ip, keeping you from having to set static at the box
[00:51] <ikonia> dfa: please take it to a private message
[00:51] <texta> How can I set my input source with pulseaudio
[00:51] <texta> I can select a card to use
[00:51] <texta> but not an actual source. :\
[00:51] <almoxarife> Googol30: mac reserve at the router
[00:51] <Googol30> I had to change my router's settings for DHCP from 192.168.1.[2-254] to an upper bound of 252, and have set the box, along with the router, for static something... at this point I'm not sure what.
[00:52] <chocka> I use for programming and running calculations based on fortran
[00:52] <dfa> AP: will you help me if i wait for you? ikonia:how do i take it to a private msg?
[00:52] <ikonia>  /msg ActionParsnip  hi this is a private message
[00:52] <Nach0z> lol.
[00:53] <dfa> so i just need to put "/msg alias" before the message?
[00:54] <ikonia> dfa: yes, please join the channel #freenode if you need help using IRC
[00:54] <dfa> ok
[00:54] <Googol30> I have set Ubuntu to connect to the router requesting(?) the address 192.168.1.253, and have configured the router to port forward incoming external network traffic for port 25565 to 192.168.1.253.
[00:54] <chocka> actionparsnip: what is the relation between hibernate / suspend and swap? and what actually is the function of swap. I use the system to run complex calculations based on fortran programming
[00:55] <escott> chocka, hibernate=write to disk full power off. suspend = write to ram stop CPU/disk keep ram powered
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> chocka: swap is like the pagefile in windows
[00:56] <Nach0z> except awesomer
[00:56] <Googol30> At this point, all I want to do is get a static internal IP set up, get the USB containing the data for the Minecraft server to mount, and port forward requests for port 25565 to that computer.
[00:57] <Googol30> I think I might have only port forwarded at this point.  Everything else I mentioned in that last sentence there I haven't yet done successfully.
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> Googol30: Do you have a desktop installed or is it a minimal installation?
[00:57] <almoxarife> Googol30: does your router allow you to make 'mac' reservation?
[00:58] <Monotoko> Googol30, usually you can override DHCP and specify which IP you want (as long you know the hostmask, usually 255.255.255.0 on home routers) and the gateway (your router IP)
[00:58] <chocka> escott: ActionParsnip: ikonia: Thanks for the time and help.
[00:58] <xwalk> Someone please tell me why this command is not only copying dot files? sudo cp -r /home/username/.* /media/home/user/
[00:58] <Monotoko> you can do that on just one computer and have the rest still use DHCP
[00:59] <xwalk> I swear bash syntax changes when I stop using it for a few weeks.
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> xwalk, because .* tells it only copy files that start with .
[00:59] <Nach0z> lol xwalk
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> What are you trying to copy xwalk?
[01:00] <Googol30> PatrickDickey, it's Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS. almaxarife, I don't recall changing anything with MAC addresses, but I do recall changing something about NAT.  And Monotoko, that's what I'm trying to do now, but I'm not exactly sure how to do so.
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> Googol30: Here's how to configure a static IP. It's for 10.04, but the procedure is the same for 12.04. https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[01:00] <ikonia> no
[01:00] <Monotoko> Googol30: this should help: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[01:00] <ikonia> that's 10.04
[01:01] <xwalk> I'm following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving#Copy_.2BAC8-home_to_the_New_Partition, only I'm having to do a few weird things since I don't really fall under the typical scenario case that this tutorial goes through, so I'm trying to copy only the smaller files from my current home dir while keeping the larger files.
[01:01] <almoxarife> Googol30: insure your router is using 'nat' unless you have a specific reason for not using it
[01:01] <Monotoko> ohhh nevermind, use PatrickDickey's link
[01:01] <PatrickDickey> ikonia, it works for 12.04 also. In fact, it's the same page that I use for every version.
[01:01] <ikonia> there is no need for any of that
[01:01] <ikonia> just set the static IP in network manager
[01:01] <Monotoko> ikonia, he doesn't have a GUI
[01:02] <xwalk> I just want to copy some dot files and some dirs containing scripts and small programs, but leave big files like videos and pictures, etc.
[01:02] <ikonia> network manager has a commmand interface too
[01:02] <ikonia> hence why it's installed on his system
[01:02]  * PatrickDickey doesn't worry about it anymore anyhow... My Amahi Server gives me the static IP address.
[01:02] <almoxarife> ikonia: he already did it, he made changes to the router before hand, correct Googol30...?
[01:03] <Monotoko> ikonia, I've never got network manager to work properly without a GUI... I prefer doing it manually, then at least you know you've done it right and don't rely on software
[01:03] <RoySegall> hello
[01:03] <Monotoko> at the best of times it's buggy for me
[01:03] <ikonia> never had a problem with it
[01:03] <RoySegall> Quick question - not technical
[01:03] <xwalk> PatrickDickey: I actually just answered my own question. I'm trying to copy the parent directories with that command as well, so everything in the dir will be copied.
[01:03] <Monotoko> RoySegall, ask away
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Monotoko: could use wicd instead
[01:03]  * almoxarife does not see a need for 'networkmanager' on a hardwired box without wifi, it just overhead at that point
[01:04] <PatrickDickey> xwalk, then I'd say take the . out. See if that copies everything.
[01:04] <RoySegall> Any one saw the new track pad by logitch for windows 8?
[01:04] <Googol30> I think I have set the router up thus that 192.168.1.253, which is the box's requested ip, is outside of the router's DHCP settings, and that that IP is static.
[01:04] <ikonia> Googol30: why are you even setting a static IP
[01:05] <xibalba> anyone here have issues installing vmware tools on 12.04 LTS?
[01:05] <Monotoko> ikonia, so he can port forward
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: does it have a make and model
[01:05] <Googol30> Port forwarding.
[01:05] <ikonia> Googol30: if you setup port forwarding on most home reouters it reserves the lease anyway
[01:05] <xibalba> im sure someone here runs vmware
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: i avoid logitech, they don't support linux :)
[01:05] <xibalba> tells me fatal error when compiling cannot find smp_lock.h
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> I've ran VMWare, but I typically use Virtualbox.
[01:05] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, 10x
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> !find smp_lock.h
[01:05]  * mattwj2002 waves to 1623 people
[01:05] <ikonia> xibalba: you're missing a header then
[01:06] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip generally i look for trackpad
[01:06] <_andyj_> can you setup full disk enryption after install?
[01:06]  * mattwj2002 eyes the other one
[01:06] <xibalba> ikonia, i had the headers pkg installed
[01:06] <RoySegall> any suggestions?
[01:06] <ikonia> xibalba: it doesn't contain the header it wants then
[01:06] <xibalba> how do i find it ?
[01:06] <ikonia> xibalba: you install it
[01:06] <xibalba> know the pkg name?
[01:06] <RoySegall> apple - not cheap and i don't think that the Gestures will work
[01:06] <ikonia> xibalba: you need to find out what provides it
[01:06] <ikonia> there may be no package
[01:07] <ikonia> it maybe internal to vmware and you've not installed it in the compilers search path
[01:07] <mattwj2002> so why did Ubuntu start including crapware and asking for donations
[01:07] <mattwj2002> ?
[01:07] <ikonia> mattwj2002: want to phrase a normal question please
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: i've used this in the past: keyboard touchpad
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> oop
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: http://www.ebuyer.com/104608-keysonic-2-4ghz-wireless-keyboard-with-integrated-touchpad-usb-kb-ack-540rf
[01:07] <ikonia> mattwj2002: if you expect an answer, best to ask polite normal questions
[01:08] <mattwj2002> why is Ubuntu asking for me to donate when I want to download it.....why are there links like Amazon in an Ubuntu live cd?
[01:08] <ikonia> mattwj2002: they are asking you to donate, as donations fund the project
[01:08] <ikonia> mattwj2002: they have included the amazon lense to try to create a marketing partner with amazon
[01:08] <iceroot> mattwj2002: its just "maybe you wan to but you dont have to"
[01:09] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, Allready have keyboard, just need track pad like apple and the one logitech came out with
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> mattwj2002: you can uninstall the amazon lens stuff, the donations are just a nice way to say thanks, you don't have to donate
[01:09] <NcA> mattwj2002, because, this: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/12/richard-stallman-calls-ubuntu-spyware-because-it-tracks-searches/
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: how is a trackpad different to a touchpad?
[01:09] <ikonia> and Richard Stallman is a sound person to use as a "judge" of things....not
[01:09] <iceroot> mattwj2002: related to the donate questions
[01:09] <mattwj2002> guys I love ubuntu
[01:09] <mattwj2002> I just get concerned when I see stuff like that
[01:10] <ikonia> mattwj2002: concerned about what ?
[01:10] <RoySegall> They don't, same same diffrent name. buy the problem is the gestures won't work with ubuntu
[01:10] <mattwj2002> well for example I search for usb (for creating a live usb drive) I get ads to buy one
[01:10] <ikonia> mattwj2002: then remove that lense
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> RoySegall: are there bugs reported?
[01:10] <mattwj2002> okay
[01:11] <mattwj2002> sorry not trying to cause problems :)
[01:11] <PatrickDickey> _andyj_: You can only encrypt your /home folder after installing. You'll have to reinstall to encrypt the entire partition, unfortunately.
[01:11] <ikonia> it's not a problem
[01:11] <mattwj2002> I'll probably even donate sometime
[01:11] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, From a quick brief in the web i saw some people couldn't use the guestures
[01:11] <mattwj2002> I just found it odd
[01:11] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, pinch to zoom etc etc
[01:11] <mattwj2002> thanks guys (and gals)!
[01:11] <_andyj_> PatrickDickey: thanks that's what I thought
[01:13] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, Forget what i said - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2006442
[01:13] <lauratika> everything that plays through clementine or rhythmbox is lower volume than what plays on internet... alsamixe setting are max voulme... any ideas?
[01:13] <PatrickDickey> mattwj2002: It's been a source of controversy since they implemented it during the beta. So, you're not the only one that finds it odd. I think in the end, they're doing what they said --trying to make the desktop your one stop for everything, instead of having to open a browser to search online.
[01:14] <marcio> exit
[01:14] <almoxarife> lauratika: how do you mean 'is lower' ?
[01:15] <lauratika> lower than the other audio out put
[01:15] <lauratika> did you read what i wrote?... lower than what plays on internet like youtube, grooveshark etc
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> lauratika: so, if it plays through your browser (or another application), it's louder than if you're playing it through Rhythmbox or Clementine?
[01:16] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, Think i'll buy a one in ebay and try
[01:16] <RoySegall> ActionParsnip, 10x!
[01:16] <lauratika> yes
[01:16] <almoxarife> lauratika: i use clementine, i dont get youtube via it though
[01:17] <lauratika> on a borwser i mean
[01:17] <lauratika> not through clementine
[01:17] <Project2501> hi, does resize2fs normally take a long time? (+5mins)
[01:17] <mattwj2002> I bought a hotend for Christmas!
[01:17] <mattwj2002> :D
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> almoxarife: I think lauratika means that playing mp3's in rhythmbox aren't as loud as say playing a video in a browser.
[01:17] <lauratika> alsamixer setting are set to max volum
[01:17] <lauratika> exactly
[01:17] <almoxarife> lauratika: it does have an amp feature, clementine does
[01:17] <mattwj2002> it is a print head for my printer
[01:17] <lauratika> clementine is my default player
[01:17] <mattwj2002> *3D printer
[01:18] <PatrickDickey> mattwj2002: Nice...
[01:18] <lauratika> almoxarife: under prefreneces???
[01:18] <mattwj2002> yup
[01:18] <mattwj2002> :)
[01:18] <almoxarife> lauratika: tools
[01:19] <xwalk> Going along with this now: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving#Moving_.2BAC8-home_into_.2BAC8-old_home is there a clean way to unmount my /home dir? The command it's saying to use isn't working since /home is mounted, but umount isn't allowing me to unmount either.
[01:19] <roy2098> Hi all - I have an inexpensive Samsung laptop that is almost, almost perfect with 12.0. The deal breaker is the ETPS/2 Elantech touchpad. I've tried many of the remedies none are working. At one point I actually had it working but X config must have clobbered whatever I did and it is gone. Any suggestions? This would get almost 5 starts if not for this issue!
[01:19] <roy2098> sorry, that is 12.10
[01:19] <lauratika> almoxarife:im using version 1.0.1
[01:19] <lauratika> under tools i dont have that option only equalizer
[01:19] <almoxarife> lauratika: 1.1.1 here
[01:20] <lauratika> how can i upgrade???
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: what model samsung?
[01:20] <roy2098> RV515
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: let me search, what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:21] <almoxarife> http://www.clementine-player.org/downloads <-- lauratika...
[01:22] <lauratika> got it!+
[01:22] <zenrg> http://localhost/abc to http://local_dev in ubuntu?
[01:22] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: quantal
[01:22] <lauratika> any other good features?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: have you seen this text: options psmouse force_elantech=1
[01:23] <almoxarife> lauratika: my bad, i meant equalizer, same thing, it will amp, i am not sure what you have as i never had 1.0.1
[01:24] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: not sure, but I can try it - as root (sudo) I presume?
[01:24] <lauratika> ok, dont worry but is there a reason i have more than 100 on the sound settings
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: roy2098 echo "options psmouse force_elantech=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf > /dev/null; sudo modprobe -r psmouse ; sudo modprobe psmouse
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: its text for a config file
[01:24] <lauratika> under the sound settings on the speaker icon
[01:24] <lauratika> some one?
[01:24] <roy2098> ok. let me give it a whirl - back in a moment if i don't crash and burn
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: does the touchpad work at all under Ubuntu?
[01:26] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: very stutteringly badly - not useable - pointer moves very very occasionally
[01:27] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: no response from buttons at all
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: hopefully the option on the module will make it ok
[01:27] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: I know i added a ko at one point but removed it, too many other problems
[01:27] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: sorry i was not more organized to document my actions
[01:28] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: let me try your conf suggestion
[01:29] <roy2098> ActionParsnip:
[01:30] <roy2098> roy@roy-RV415-RV515:~$ sudo modprobe psmouse
[01:30] <roy2098> FATAL: Error inserting psmouse (/lib/modules/3.5.0-19-generic/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse.ko): Invalid argument
[01:32] <tripelb> any word about how good is Ubuntu in nexus?
[01:32] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: I've checked and the conf file is where it should be without typos
[01:32] <Guest85032> ...
[01:32] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: wait, there is a typo...
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> roy2098: try a reboot
[01:33] <Guest85032> oi
[01:33] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: couple minutes...
[01:35] <Danic> Hi! I just installed git-gui on ubutnu 12.10 through software center. how can I run the software now?
[01:37] <dps> hey all, i'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on a big problem i'm having. ubuntu running apache, seems ok, connections are OK, btu the pages are crawling, 4kb assets taking 20-40 seconds to load, pages taking 4-5 minutes. memory, cpu is fine - we were thinking maybe disks?
[01:37] <roy2098> ActionParsnip: I corrected the typo, now the output after the last command is: FATAL: Error inserting psmouse (/lib/modules/3.5.0-19-generic/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/psmouse.ko): Invalid argument
[01:37] <cellofellow> I have a USB 2.5" IDE HDD enclosure that when I plug it in and turn it on, nothing happens. Nothing shows in dmesg or lsusb. This is with either of the two har drives I'm tyring to use with it. Any ideas?
[01:38] <lauratika> what podcast search engine you guys rekon?
[01:39] <dps> any v good ubuntu sysadmins want $$$ for screen sharing tech support plz IM me... need to get something sorted fast.
[01:40] <cellofellow> dps: I'm game, PM me with details.
[01:41] <roy_> ActionParsnip: I've rebooted to no avail...
[01:43] <roy_> ActionParsnip: xinput output now does not even show the trackpad; it did previously
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> roy_: if you run:   lsmod      do you see anything relating to mouse?
[01:45] <tryingUbuntu> Can someone help me.. I have  no sound.. Everything is good in settings, mute is not checked and volume is up???????????
[01:46] <roy_> ActionParsnip: negative. But remember, the conf file we created is in place and th laptop was rebooted
[01:46] <roy_> ActionParsnip: btw fyi i am using a wireless usb mouse
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: what is the output of:  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[01:46] <tryingUbuntu> song is playing on grooveshark but no sound in headphone or speakers.. all settings are fine???????
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> roy_: the conf file won't stop it loading, just adds an option to the module that drives it
[01:47] <roy_> ActionParsnip: why xinput not showing the elantech; previously it did?
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> roy_: thats the force, try deleting the conf file and reboot
[01:48] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip   says missing url
[01:49] <roy_> Action: ok
[01:50] <Guest55891> how to login to filesystem installed on hdd from usb live session and install network manager
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: did you click the link in the command, or did you run it all in a terminal?
[01:50] <Guest17440> When you recover the image, are you left with both files adding up to twice the original, or does one replace the other?
[01:51] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip  Both.. I dont understand the link
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[01:51] <Guest55891> network manager got messed up by installing conmann indicator and now the only inet access is through usb live session
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: copy the text I gave as ONE command, paste it to a terminal and hit ENTER
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: you don't have to 'understand' anything, its a bash script
[01:52] <Guest55891> ?
[01:53] <blackshirt> hello all
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[01:53] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip   Not working out.. getting  server not found
[01:53] <Guest17440> When you recover an image, does it leave both files, adding up to twice the size taken up on you HDD as the original? Or does one replace the other?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: is thet when you are running the wget section?
[01:54] <Guest55891> is reinstalling the grub realy relevant to fixing network manager?
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: read between the lines!!
[01:54] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip   I copie and paste into another web window and get that error
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: the guide is not 100% exactly what you want, but the commands will get you chrooted into the installed OS from the LiveCD which you DO want...
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: think about it
[01:55] <Guest55891> ok
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: so it's useful, isn't it
[01:56] <Guest17440> When an image.dd is being recovered, does it leave both files, adding up to twice the space taken up on a HDD as the original? Or does one replace the other?
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: if you learn how to read more into what is given when you read something, you'll have an easier ife
[01:57] <guang_> how to simulate a usb and then write some code to it first sec?
[01:57] <Googol30> I don't feel like messing with the network anymore... I would like to copy some files from Windows to Ubuntu now... and I haven't a clue how to find the flash drive.
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: try: cd $HOME; wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[01:57] <Nach0z> Googol30: sudo apt-get install usbmount, it'll mount the flashdrive automatically somewhere under /mnt
[01:57] <roy_> ActionParsnip: I'm back after some boot issues
[01:58] <roy_> ActionParsnip: that's another little annoyance - after the install i had to actually run boot-repair to fix grub issues
[01:58] <roy_> ActionParsnip: so now it boots almost every time - but not quite 100% of the time
[01:58] <Googol30> Upon trying "mount /dev/sda5 /mnt" Ubuntu complains stating "unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'"
[01:59] <roy_> ActionParsnip: I can live with this and some other annoyances, but the touchpad is really frustrating
[01:59] <Guest17440> Can you only recover data on to another drive?
[01:59] <Guest17440> Or can you use photorec to mount an image and recover the data using one HDD?
[01:59] <roy_> ActionParsnip: and it's a real shame because I'm really enamored with Ubuntu
[01:59] <roy_> ActionParsnip: use it flawlessly on a desktop
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: yes, you'll need a writable partition to spit the data to
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> roy_: i suggest you report a bug
[02:00] <escott> Googol30, sda5 is an lvm container
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> roy_: could try Fn+F10 twice (with a gap in between)
[02:00] <roy_> ActionParsnip: yep, my thinking exactly. Thanks very much for all your help
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> roy_: also try disabling the tap to click feature in the OS
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> roy_: I try#
[02:01] <roy_> ActionParsnip: hmmmm
[02:01] <Googol30> What else can I attempt to mount?  If I unplug then plug the flash drive back in, will Ubuntu recognize its existence somewhere?
[02:01] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip  OK, I did it in terminal.. got some command not found   syntax error near unexpected token and resolving
[02:02] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip  should I try sound again now?
[02:02] <escott> Googol30, http://superuser.com/questions/116617/how-to-mount-lvm-volume
[02:02] <Guest17440> ActionParsnip: If I have a 500 gig image, do I need a TB to extract it if I'm using the same drive?
[02:03] <escott> Guest17440, you can pipe it to gzip and compress it as you write
[02:04] <escott> Guest17440, but why would you extract a disk image to the same device? what reason do you have for doing the extracT?
[02:04] <Guest17440> escott: is there risk of further corrupting the data doing that?
[02:04] <Guest17440> Escott: I want to use photorec to recover my files
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: 500Gb will be enough, anything more is a bonus
[02:05] <escott> Guest17440, why are your files corrupted to begin with
[02:05] <roy_> Action: thanks again cu around!
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: if the data area has been overwritten then the data is lost
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: why not just use your backup
[02:05] <Guest17440> escott: a BSOD
[02:06] <escott> Guest17440, so why not run photorec on the raw device
[02:07] <Guest17440> escot: because I have a feeling that i corrupted a lot of data through working on trying to fix the boot process
[02:07] <Guest17440> and I can restore an image to before I did that
[02:08] <Guest17440> and use photorec on that
[02:08] <bitcycle> Hey all.  How to install postgresql 8.4 onto ubuntu 12.10?  apt is saying its not available with the default software sources.
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: use your backups....
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> !info postgresql
[02:08] <Guest17440> ActionParsnip: The only image I have is from a corrupted drive
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest17440: i suggest you review your backup regime
[02:09] <bitcycle> ActionParsnip: I don't understand.  That's 9.1.  How to get 8.4?
[02:09] <Guest17440> ActionParsnip: Yeah. I know this now. I just kept putting it off because I didn't had a HDD to back it up when it was healthy
[02:10] <Guest17440> have*
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> bitcycle: if you can find a source then you can use it
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | bitcycle may help
[02:11] <gabrieluk> hi, is this recommended? ppa:dhuggins/cmusphinx
[02:11] <Googol30> Are there any ways to format a flash drive in a way that both Linux and Windows can read and write to it without issues or needing to install anything?
[02:11] <gabrieluk> lucid 10.04
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: if you want what is on the ppa, why not
[02:12] <gabrieluk> i was just not sure if it was the correct ppa. sometimes ppa owners change, etc
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: technically those packages ar euno0fficial so cannot be vouched for but most people are nice
[02:13] <escott> Googol30, ntfs or fat
[02:14] <Googol30> So FAT32 won't work, it must be simple FAT?
[02:14] <escott> Googol30, by fat i mean fat32 but not exfat
[02:14] <gabrieluk> " most people are nice", lol
[02:15] <paris> The voice over gamil is not working in Linux, but in Windows does. What I ought to do?
[02:15]  * gabrieluk feels like trolling
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: well yeah, there is no ruling in a PPA so users could add any kind of nasty they want
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: only the packages from the official repos are definately clean
[02:16] <gabrieluk> copy that, but they are outdated >.<
[02:16] <ReAzem> Any love for debian? I just took my ubuntu samba conf and moved it to a debian machine, I get acces denied.
[02:16] <almoxarife> now that i have 'recoll' setup to look for abstract terms within chosen dir/folders i am wondering what dirs to point at, i have the obvious, /etc/ /usr/share/doc/ /home/.config , any other dirs with conf or txt file configs that you might recommend?
[02:16] <gabrieluk> debisn, lol
[02:16] <Guest17440> Why is it when I highlighted the files on my old drive, ubuntu says there is only something like 14.9 gigs but when I copy those over it actually ends up being 145 gigs?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: ubuntu is not a rolling release, so packages will be outdated.
[02:16] <shirlena> hi
[02:16] <Googol30> Since FAT32 isn't working, I'll reformat it in FAT and see if that will work.  If that doesn't work yet again, I'll attempt a network based file transfer.  And if I can't figure anything out after that... I give up.
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: if the newer version of a package adds a minor change compared to one which is a high security risk. Which do you think will get more attention?
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: so the package versions where the changes and gains are minimal will be left in favour of more impacting changes
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> gabrieluk: think about it...
[02:18] <meowagism> hello great dudes
[02:18] <mens> It is possible to open http stream in "XBMC Eden"?
[02:18] <meowagism> can install on btrfs with ubunto?
[02:18] <Guest17440> Why is it, when I highlighted the files on my old drive, ubuntu says there is something like 14.9 gigs, but when I copy it over to my new drive, it ends up actually being 145 gigs?
[02:19] <mens> If possible ... how?
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> meowagism: sure, just use the something else option at install and btrfs is an option as well as other file systems
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> mens: i'd ask in the xbmc channel too
[02:20] <dr_willis> meowagism: i belive so. but btrfs is not considered stable by many
[02:20] <ricardoramirez> #wikipedia-es
[02:20] <maylow> good evening :)
[02:20] <Guest17440> Why is it, when I highlight files on my old drive, ubuntu says there is something like 14.9 gigs, but when I copy those same files and folders, it actually ends up being around 145 gigs
[02:20] <meowagism> i need compressing the entire thing
[02:21] <meowagism> i have ssd with small diks
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> HA!
[02:21] <maylow> escott: hi :
[02:21] <maylow> :)
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> meowagism: i'd install ubuntu minimal, then install something like fluxbox and slim, the install will be about 1.2Gb installed
[02:22] <escott> Guest17440, sparse files?
[02:22] <meowagism> thank you vely much
[02:22] <gabrieluk> i have a usb headset/mic. when i connect it, i have to go to system->preferences-->sound, and set it everytime i turn the computer on. is there a way to set the usb headset as default for sound?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> meowagism: tinycore (not ubuntu) is a 12mb ISO, very small install footprint :)
[02:24] <anonjr> Hello. :) First day with ubuntu now. Any advices or suggested software/theme/plugin!? :)
[02:24] <dr_willis> !manual
[02:25] <K1rk> I am trying to clean up after this largely ignored bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/990315  Without compiling my own binaries.  I am doing this on a large scale deployment, and I don't want to deal with an update wiping out my custom binaries.
[02:25] <Guest55891> can't get that vid to play no flash any help on installing network manager to hdd install from usb live session
[02:25] <K1rk> I thought maybe a good solution would be a custom button on the GTK greeter to replace their broken cancel button. Maybe one which runs a custom bash script to kill and restart lightdm.
[02:25] <K1rk> Any idea how I can accomplish this?
[02:26] <maylow> escott: i've got lvm over mdadm
[02:26] <maylow> escott: looks pretty nice
[02:26] <escott> maylow, excellent
[02:26] <maylow> escott: i greatly appreciate your advice
[02:26] <escott> maylow, no problem
[02:26] <maylow> :)
[02:27] <anonjr> Edit .exe in ubuntu?
[02:27] <K1rk> anonjr, Ubuntu doesn't have exe files.  It has binaries.
[02:27] <dr_willis> hmm. it says fix released. that means there should be an update to fix it soon
[02:27] <K1rk> dr_willis, yeah but that looks like it was months ago.
[02:27] <K1rk> dr_willis, I want to deploy my 12.04 lab image to our computers over Christmas break.
[02:28] <K1rk> dr_willis, you can see how with a room full of students, this might be a problem. (aka  "vandalizing" computers to waste time, getting them stuck in login loops)
[02:28] <Guest55891> tried installing network manager from deb off flash but its output it that the deb files are not in software sources
[02:28] <K1rk> It seems like this is a really dumb problem and a really easy fix... and lazy repo maintainer
[02:28] <meowagism> i installed those options
[02:28] <meowagism> on btrfs?
[02:28] <dr_willis> i use gdm. ;-)
[02:28] <gabrieluk> how do i remove a ppa repository?
[02:28] <meowagism> defaults,subvol=@home,compress=lzo,inode_cache,ssd 0       2
[02:29] <K1rk> meowagism, nice fstab stuff....
[02:29] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge | gabrieluk
[02:29] <K1rk> meowagism, I'm not familiar with the "ssd" option.
[02:29] <meowagism> ssd is solid state drives write in a chunk instead of little bananaistics
[02:30] <gabrieluk> ok
[02:30] <dr_willis> o_0
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: the way I do it is to run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install network-manager    in the liveCD
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: then copy the deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives to the internal HDD, then reboot to the installed OS and install the deb files
[02:31] <Guest55891> yes but that requires mounting into the hdd
[02:31] <Guest55891> o ok'
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: yes, you'd mount the drive to then hold the debs so they are not lost on reboot
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest55891: you then have the files you need to install the app
[02:34] <yescalona> ubuntu please
[02:34] <dr_willis> yescalona:  what?
[02:34] <JohnnyL> Did anyone see the article about Ubuntu concerning RMS on slashdot?
[02:34] <Flannel> JohnnyL: #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.  Thanks!
[02:34] <Guest55891> having trouble mounting hdd with that tutorial cannot play flash in hdd
[02:35] <Guest55891> live usb session*
[02:35] <puff> JohnnyL: Nope, got a URL?
[02:35] <yescalona> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/07/stallman_on_ubuntu_spyware/
[02:35] <gabrieluk> ActionParsnip, i cannot find cmu sphinx on the official repo. is that correct?
[02:35] <Flannel> yescalona: take it to #ubuntu-discuss, thanks.
[02:35] <JohnnyL> puff: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu
[02:36] <yescalona> a la mierda ubuntu
[02:38] <ReAzem> Just made a test share accepting guests, it worked. So this means that my problem is security = user. It keeps denying me acces, for some reason.
[02:38] <mac-10> anyone is interested in domains 4 free ?
[02:38] <mengazo> yescalona: Amen
[02:38] <topper4125> Maybe RMS needs to learn to follow his own advice before he goes off on other people... some of his software source has binary blobs... something he *claims* to be against.
[02:38] <gabrieluk> omg, the link is shocking
[02:38] <puff> Nobody ever accused RMS of being subtle.
[02:38] <puff> the original article, btw: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[02:38] <puff> Well, blog post.
[02:39] <Flannel> guys, this is a support channel.  Take it elsewhere, thanks.
[02:39] <Googol30> Well... good ol' FAT works just fine... Java is having a fit though.
[02:39] <dr_willis> ReAzem: you gave the users a samba password with  smbpasswd?
[02:39] <ReAzem> dr_willis, never did that.
[02:39] <puff> Flannel: Good point.
[02:39] <Guest55891> should  mount /dev/sda3 "root partition" from live session followed by apt-get updat; apt-get install network-manager add network manager to hdd
[02:40] <Guest55891> still have to install deb files?
[02:40] <dr_willis> ReAzem:   sudo smbpasswd -a  username
[02:40] <ReAzem> dr_willis, I toughg sambe used system usernames?
[02:40] <ReAzem> *samba
[02:40] <ReAzem> and passwords*
[02:40] <dr_willis> ReAzem:  but not passwords
[02:40] <escott> dr_willis, curious what is the point of using sudo with that?
[02:40] <ReAzem> dr_willis, Wht did it work before then?
[02:40] <dr_willis> theres a way to sync them
[02:40] <ReAzem> *why - I need to learn to type
[02:41] <dr_willis> escott:  not all users have samba access. i belive
[02:41] <Googol30> Anyone familiar with Java?  Whenever I try to run the Minecraft server, it complains with as much text as it possibly can.
[02:41] <gpix13> Googol30: you using the proprietary jre or the openjre?
[02:41] <ReAzem> dr_willis, Okay so how do I pay you a beer?
[02:42] <escott> dr_willis, its in the manpage. i guess it adds entries and works when the daemon isnt running
[02:42] <dr_willis> ReAzem:  donate to the bell ringers at the mall. ;-)
[02:42] <Googol30> Sun's JRE I'm guessing... I followed some guide on the internet somewhere... lemme find it.
[02:42] <gpix13> java -version
[02:42] <gpix13> run that
[02:42] <dr_willis> im old skool amd sefl taught on sambe. i just remember what i always do. ;-)
[02:43] <ReAzem> dr_willis, I promise I will. Now, can you tell me why I never had to do that before? I really liked it before haha
[02:43] <researcher123> When I try to open  www.godaddy.com I get a message "waiting for img3.wsimg.com " and the page never opens. Is somebody happy to help ? PLEASE
[02:44] <Argure_> I can't for the life of me figure out why my pubkey authentication isn't working. :(
[02:44] <topper4125> http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/say-what-gnu-emacs-violates-gpl
[02:44] <Argure_> drwx------ 2 argure argure 4096 Dec  8 03:28 .ssh
[02:44] <Argure_> -rw------- 1 argure argure  757 Dec  8 03:28 authorized_keys
[02:45] <Googol30> I did "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" to install java... but I followed the guide on http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
[02:45] <escott> Argure_, why is auth_keys outside of .ssh
[02:45] <Argure_> it's not.
[02:45] <Argure_> :P
[02:45] <escott> Argure_, then why is is listed after .ssh?
[02:45] <Argure_> sshd_config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418074/
[02:45] <gpix13> Googol30: what is the error you are getting?
[02:45] <Argure_> because I cd'ed into ~/.ssh before running ls -la ;)
[02:46] <escott> Argure_, ok.. then why is there a .ssh inside .ssh
[02:46] <Argure_> I think I confused you :P
[02:46] <Argure_> argure@geonosis:~/.ssh$ ls -la
[02:46] <Argure_> -rw------- 1 argure argure  757 Dec  8 03:28 authorized_keys
[02:46] <escott> !paste | Argure_
[02:47] <escott> Argure_, i get it you are trying to say .ssh is 700 and auth_keys is 600 but its not working... you could have just said that
[02:47] <Argure_> afaik with the permission set on ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys it *should* be working fine
[02:47] <Guest17440> Why is it, when I highlight files on my old drive, ubuntu says there is something like 14.9 gigs, but when I copy those same files and folders, it actually ends up being around 145 gigs?
[02:47] <Argure_> pretty much ^^
[02:47] <escott> Argure_, what do you see when you try to ssh -vv user@host
[02:47] <Googol30> Whenever I try to do "java -Xms1G -Xmx3G -jar craftbukkit-1.4.5-R0.2.jar", Java spams me with a million messages all saying some different "at net.minecraft.server.(...)" message
[02:48] <escott> Guest17440, sparse files or virtual filesystems
[02:48] <gpix13> Googol30: hmm
[02:48] <dr_willis> Guest17440: copying to where. and how...
[02:48] <Guest17440> Escott:I don't understand, could you elaborate?
[02:48] <Argure_> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418076/
[02:49] <riex> Hello guys, I've just added one more IP to my debian server. But when that's done, and I'm trying to ping it from my home connection, it dosen't reply back. But if i ping the IP-address on the server it replys. What could the error be? :-|
[02:49] <Googol30> gpix13: Is it that my network connection might not be what it expects?
[02:49] <riex> someone knows if there is an error log or something?
[02:49] <Guest17440> dr_willis: onto my new drive, and by using copy and paste
[02:49] <escott> Guest17440, sparse files have lots of zeros but the zeros aren't stored. virtual filesystems take up no on disk space but if you dont use the correct options in your copy you might copy them by accident. ie we need more details on exactly how you are copying
[02:49] <gpix13> Googol30: no I doubt it, paste what you can into pste.ubuntu.com and paste the link here so i can see
[02:50] <dr_willis> Guest17440: what fs is the drive?
[02:50] <Guest17440> dr_willis: sorry what? I'm still a noob
[02:50] <escott> Argure_, it sends both /Users/patrickgodschalk/.ssh/id_rsa and dsa but neither is a match. what are the contents of auth_keys
[02:51] <Argure_> both are private keys, escott
[02:51] <mengazo> Is there anyway to sort files on Ubuntu by creation date, even with another filesystem, such as NTFS and FAT32. I use it for organizational purposes on Windows and OS X and have yet to find such a way to do that. I simply can't use Linux without that ability
[02:51] <escott> Argure_, take that back it doesnt send dsa cause that doesn't exist
[02:51] <Argure_> I have tried indicating id_rsa.pub with the -i flag but to no avail
[02:51] <escott> Argure_, auth_keys should be public keys and safe to share
[02:51] <Argure_> oh, authorized_keys
[02:51] <Googol30> gpix: Any way to make the error messages all write to a file... I'm thinking something with grep but I'm not sure how to do so.
[02:52] <Googol30> gpix13... forgot the numbers... sorry.
[02:52] <escott> Googol30, command 2>&1 >output.txt
[02:52] <SolarisBoy> 2>&1
[02:52] <gpix13> Googol30: do the command for starting the server and append it with ">> file.txt"
[02:52] <SolarisBoy> meh
[02:52] <Argure_> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418079/
[02:52] <gpix13> or something to that extent
[02:52] <Guest17440> escott: I am copying because I'm going to delete the files I copied from the original old HDD and recover data from an image onto the old HDD
[02:52] <escott> Argure_, that looks ok.
[02:53] <escott> Guest17440, don't really care about why. but how. using cp, rsync? with what flags etc?
[02:53] <julie101010> I have a NFS mount in my fstab and it causes my system to lock up infinitely on boot when the server is down, any ideas?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> julie101010: add the option:  noauto   then it won't attempt to be mounted at boot
[02:54] <williamherry> I accedently deleted a file, I know it belong to fontconfig-config, how do I get it back
[02:54] <Argure_> escott: that's what I thought, I still for the life of me can't figure out why the server is denying pubkey authentication
[02:54] <williamherry> apt-get has no reinstall command
[02:54] <mengazo> I guess Linux is inadequate for my needs
[02:54] <dr_willis> julie101010:  try the noauto option. tgen mount it after tge system is up
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> williamherry: yes it does
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> williamherry: install --reinstall
[02:54] <Argure_> escott: especially since i can authenticate with that key towards other servers
[02:54] <williamherry> SolarisBoy: thanks
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> yw
[02:54] <julie101010> ActionParsnip, dr_willis: is there an in between where it would attempt to mount it
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> julie101010: you can then add:  sudo mount /mount/point &     in /etc/rc.local    above the 'exit 0' line to mount it, note the ampersand to background the command so the boot can complete
[02:55] <escott> Argure_, the only things you can check are the logs on the server
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> julie101010: ^
[02:55] <julie101010> ActionParsnip, very good idea, tyvm
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> julie101010: np
[02:55] <dr_willis> julie101010:  i think there is. but ive not used nfs in ages
[02:55] <SolarisBoy> or automount
[02:55] <Guest17440> escott: how? using ubuntu 12.10. Highlighting the files that I first see when opening the disk, right clicking, selecting copy, going to an ubuntu folder on the desktop and pasting inside there.
[02:56] <Googol30> gpix13: Upon attempt to run the server with " >> errorlog.txt" appended to the end... it says "-bash: errorlog.txt: Permission denied"
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> Googol30: do you have permissions to where you are writing?
[02:56] <gpix13> Googol30: what directory are you running it in?
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> Googol30: you can redirect to /tmp if not
[02:56] <gpix13> ^^
[02:56] <Googol30> It's in /tmp... same message
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> ouch
[02:56] <gpix13> prefix sudo?
[02:56] <Thete> Since google is screwing over Google Apps, anyone know of a decent mail hosting service?
[02:57] <Argure_> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418083/
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> google apps work fine
[02:57] <Thete> Cause I'm not paying $5 per user per month
[02:57] <Thete> SolarisBoy: You obviously haven't heard the news yet
[02:57] <Guest17440> escott: I'm doing it completely wrong aren't I?
[02:57] <Googol30> Same thing... even with sudo prefixed.
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> Thete: could run your own
[02:57] <Thete> Yeah, I suck at linux mail servers
[02:57] <gpix13> Googol30: hm, not much I can do without the error messages.
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> whats the news? Thete ?
[02:58] <Thete> SolarisBoy: It costs money now
[02:58] <escott> Argure_, you use ecryptfs thats why
[02:58] <Googol30> The flash drive that I am attempting to write to is FAT...
[02:58] <Thete> SolarisBoy: $5 per user per month
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> Thete: what costs money?
[02:58] <escott> Argure_, ~/.ssh is not decrypted until after login. there is no auth_keys to read
[02:58] <gpix13> Googol30: don't write to the flash drive
[02:58] <Thete> SolarisBoy: Google Apps for domains
[02:58] <gpix13> Googol30: write to your hard drive
[02:58] <gpix13> or something else
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> Thete: so what are they doing with the free accounts?
[02:58] <Thete> 30 days left apparently
[02:58] <Argure_> that... would make sense
[02:58] <Thete> SolarisBoy: Log into your panel, you'll see it
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> one second
[02:59] <escott> Guest17440, hard to say since its the gui. evidently the gui does something wrong either vfs or sparse files, what i dont know
[02:59] <Thete> SolarisBoy: 30 day trial, upgrade now
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> haha
[02:59] <Thete> They sent out mass email about 30 min ago about it
[02:59] <escott> Argure_, easiest workaround is to put auth_keys outside of $HOME
[03:00] <dr_willis> oh the humanity!
[03:00] <SolarisBoy> Thete: i see it now
[03:01] <Argure_> escott: I'm unmounting and removing $PRIVATE for that user :)
[03:01] <user20393> Dillo browser won't show images on google image search. How to fix?  Is there a setting in dillorc I need to change?
[03:01] <SolarisBoy> Thete: it says Free accounts that exist wont be affected no?
[03:01] <SolarisBoy> 'Because you're already a customer, this change has no impact on your service, and you can continue to use Google Apps for free.'
[03:01] <Thete> The email says that, but I can't figure out if that's true or not considering what it says in the control panel
[03:01] <Argure_> thanks. :)
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> hrm
[03:02] <MechanisM> when I'm running "update-manager -d" it shows new version, I"m clicking upgrade and it's closed. when trying do-release-upgrade it's showing me "No new release found" what is wrong? I have enabled non lts upgrades
[03:02] <Thete> I have a big mess on my hands if I loose access after 30 days
[03:02] <Googol30> Oh... you said /tmp... I was typing /mnt...
[03:02] <Googol30> My bad.
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> not you only...
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> Googol30: nice
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: what release are you on?
[03:02] <Googol30> Now when I'm not in the directory... it works...
[03:02] <MechanisM> I'm on 12.10
[03:02] <MechanisM> wanna upgrade to 13.04
[03:03] <SolarisBoy> Googol30: being in mnt needs sudo permissions generally to write under there
[03:03] <dr_willis> MechanisM:  why?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: then you will need to use the -d option to get the development release, raring. 12.10 is the latest stable release
[03:04] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip: Look at my first msg
[03:04] <Flannel> MechanisM: You want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: ^
[03:04] <MechanisM> I'm already asked
[03:04] <Googol30> Now that it looks like it works... I'll test it... and if I can connect using my external IP, that's what I wanted for the last 7 hours.
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: http://askubuntu.com/questions/222296/cant-upgrade-to-ubuntu-13-04-development-release
[03:08] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip I can use google =) I'm answered there already: For me not worked "do-release-upgrade" and not worked "update-manager -d" but this works: "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[03:09] <DrManhattan> how do I upgrade from the version of virtualbox installed via apt-get to the latest version on the oracle site? pci passthrough isn't working for me thus far and I would like to try something a bit newer
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: I didn't use google ;)
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> MechanisM: yes, the command is an admin task so needs 'sudo'
[03:10] <MechanisM> ActionParsnip case is not in sudo part
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: its a separate app, you will need to uninstall the virtual box you have, then add the vbox ppa, then install vbox 4.1
[03:11] <DrManhattan> oh, how utterly weak.
[03:11] <researcher123> I   get a message "waiting for img3.wsimg.com " and the page never opens for a certain site.While all other open promptly.Any help?
[03:11] <MechanisM> "do-release-upgrade" vs  "update-manager -d" vs "do-release-upgrade -d"
[03:11] <DrManhattan> all this trouble for pci passthrough
[03:11] <DrManhattan> if I could find my easycap002 I wouldn't have this problem
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: why, you are only replaceing the app. How is that 'weak'?
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[03:15] <needhelp1> I need help, ive been battling with an issue with just copying files for months on ubuntu 12.10, i have updated and re-installed twice and still experience teh same issue. I plug in the camera via usb and the camera mounts, i can see the images load, but when i try to copy the image files from the camera to anywhere, nothing happens, the progress window loads showing something like "File operations" copying filie 1 of 20 to "folder nam
[03:15] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, one sec
[03:15] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, it says precise
[03:16] <nitrohax> did they finally fix the compiz fusion so you can load all the effects and not crash the system/
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: ho is removing one package, then replacing it with another 'weak'?
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: echo "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> oo
[03:17] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, I don't think it's "just a package" when you install it from the vbox site
[03:17] <DrManhattan> oo nice, thank you
[03:17] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip>  depends on the package i guess. like gnome-screensaver with xscreensaver
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: echo "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vbox.list
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[03:18] <nitrohax> someone having problems with the vbox thru ubuntu download center/
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: then uninstall the vbox packages you have and run:  sudo apt-get update; VirtualBox-4.2
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: you still haven't answered my question
[03:18] <DrManhattan> copying
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: you still haven't answered my question
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: remove the old vbox first
[03:19] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, thats a lot of work just to uninstall and install one package, thats what I thought was weak
[03:19] <nitrohax> vbox really only works with all the functions when directly d/l thru the site it's self. the repos hasn't been updated in the d/l center
[03:19] <DrManhattan> it aint exactly apt-get remove and apt-get install
[03:20] <nitrohax> apt-get purge is what you are looking for
[03:20] <escott> needhelp1, what program are you using to copy the pictures
[03:20] <needhelp1> escott: natalus
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: its near zero effort though, its nearly apt-get remove apt-get install. You just add an extra packages source
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: so, not weak at all
[03:21] <needhelp1> escott: nautilus
[03:21] <DrManhattan> k
[03:21] <escott> needhelp1, most cameras are not usb mass-storage you might try one of the photo managing applications like gphoto or the like
[03:21] <DrManhattan> if I can get this pci passthrough working, I'll be a happy camper
[03:21] <DrManhattan> or if I manage to find my easycap
[03:22] <needhelp1> escott: shotwell ok?
[03:22] <escott> needhelp1, sure
[03:22] <escott> DrManhattan, does your motherboard support pci passthrough
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: if you wanted really annoying then try the same in gentoo, takes forever and a day
[03:22] <DrManhattan> escott, maybe
[03:23] <escott> DrManhattan, iommu does require northbridge support so check online and at the mfg website
[03:23] <needhelp1> escott: getting errors  "unable to mount camera, try to mount from the file manager" , and then "volume is busy  EOG /run/user/who/gvfs/gph/....100canon etc
[03:23] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, I love watching that code fly by, but what a total PITA gentoo is to set up initially
[03:23] <escott> needhelp1, i guess nautilus has mounted it. you might eject it in nautilus and then try to reopen it in shotwell
[03:24] <escott> needhelp1, basically trying to get you closer to libgphoto2
[03:24] <needhelp1> escott: just had a crash
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: loads, or telling it to rebuild world :)  see you in a week
[03:25]  * DrManhattan bursts into tears with gentoo ptsd
[03:25] <nitrohax> DrManhattan> you new to linux/ubuntu?
[03:25] <DrManhattan> no
[03:25] <dr_willis_> !info gentoo
[03:26] <needhelp1> escott: unplugged and plugged back in, shotwell is importing, seems to be working so far.
[03:26] <needhelp1> why cant i do this via nautilus?
[03:26] <nitrohax> you coming from straight deb?
[03:26] <DrManhattan> No
[03:26] <dr_willis_> now everyone is confused. ;-)   i  like that gentoo filemanager
[03:26] <DrManhattan> Not even new to ubuntu
[03:27] <escott> needhelp1, its just another layer of abstraction. cameras in ptp mode are not like normal disks so when naut works with them it has to emulate certain disk functions that ptp does not support
[03:27] <escott> needhelp1, shotwell uses libgphoto2 directly so it talks ptp without the emulation of gvfs
[03:27] <needhelp1> escott: is there anythign I can do to help "fix" this, bug report, vote or something
[03:28] <escott> needhelp1, if you are using the most recent version and want to try to isolate where the bug is in gvfs im sure a bug report would be helpful. a bug report for a X-months old version of gvfs that says it doesnt work for camera X is just going to get ignored
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis_: oh wow, so you can run  gentoo in gentoo :)
[03:29] <dr_willis_> ActionParsnip:  yep. ;-)
[03:29] <needhelp1> escott: just to make sure im following correctly, your saying gvfs stinks, and a bug report probably wont help right?
[03:29] <dr_willis_> gentootwo
[03:30] <escott> needhelp1, no gvfs seems to be pretty good (given what it does). but it is a bug in the gvfs/libgphoto2 interaction with your specific camera
[03:30] <dr_willis_> gvfs works well.. most of the tine.
[03:30] <escott> needhelp1, and that making a good bug report that is actually useful rather than "it doesn't work for me" is a fair bit of work
[03:31] <nitrohax> DrManhattan> you just trying to get a good working copy of vbox working then?
[03:31] <escott> needhelp1, if you have the skill, time and desire to do it by all means please go ahead
[03:31] <nitrohax> escott> what do you need help with?
[03:31] <needhelp1> escott: its weird because it worked in 12.04
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis_: gentoo^2
[03:31] <escott> needhelp1, well thats helpful. means it is a regression. should be easier to figure out what went wrong
[03:33] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> did they fix the compiz fusion where you can add all the effects and not crash/
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: no idea, i don't use it
[03:34] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> ok. just needed to see some flames and paper planes on the desktop.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: what for?
[03:34] <nitrohax> last time i tried it it killed ubuntu and couldn't recover anything
[03:35] <needhelp1> as far as file sysems go, is ext4 still recommended generally speaking
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> needhelp1: yes, ext4 is pretty decent now
[03:36] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> You know, woblly windows are cool and all. but sometimes you need to show off that extra linux flare of flaming windows, and wrap maximize, and airplane minimize.
[03:36] <nitrohax> mostly to wow the window idiots at work
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: i think all that stuff is worthless and slows productivity
[03:37] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> it's work, not like i'm doing anything there anyways, plus, i've got the GPU to handle it all
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: i'd rather that when i click minimize of close, the app instantly vanishes and i can move on rather than fill my screen with some animation and get in the way
[03:38] <atlus> would anyone mind helping me patch a version of wine ?
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> !patch
[03:39] <nitrohax> well i just make the animations really short. plus, those windows people, they just swoon over the effects they can't have. makes me seem more in demand to say.
[03:40] <Johnn> This is my first time in a IRC chat. I am here because I need help. Windows 7 has done some sort of automatic update and I can't acess Ubuntu. I'm a complete novice to Ubuntu but in my opinion it is much better then Windows. I even donated some :). I have created a live usb but repair disk did not work, Can anyone help or point me to the apropriate place?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: i've never tried to wow people with effects
[03:40] <atlus> it may help to be able to have first hand guidance
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: try being 32 and having all that going on on the desktop. They'll look at you like you are some kid
[03:40] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> you don't work in a windows shop like i do. they still don
[03:40] <Xgates> hey guys
[03:41] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, you are able to wow with computer skills, all I have is the effects
[03:41] <Xgates> anyone see this new article over at the FSF? --> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[03:41] <Johnn> When I click Ubuntu it gives me minimal bash like line editing message.
[03:41] <nitrohax> they still don't realize how i fix window systems with such ease. I like ubuntu for the community, but deb for the funtionality
[03:41] <Xgates> I know Stallman is very extreme, but, hmm this doesn't sound good...
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: hehe half :)
[03:42] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> just the xscreensaver alone draws more attention then anything. and all i do is recover data from "broken" hard drives
[03:43] <Chintan> Hello guys
[03:43] <Chintan> good morning
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: i've sold PCs in the past using sach's marine screensaver
[03:43] <Johnn> So can anyone in this chatroom help me with a problem I am having with Ubuntu?
[03:44] <Chintan> I have one pc in USA with ubuntu installed. I want to transfer files from my ubuntu system.
[03:44] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> my job description "virus rectification information reclamation"
[03:44] <Chintan> How can i do this ?
[03:44] <nitrohax> Chintan> so you want to trans files from one ubuntu machine to another?
[03:44] <Chintan> nitrohax : yes
[03:44] <puff> is this a good place to discuss a possible bug in ubuntu software updates?
[03:45] <Chintan> do i need vpn authentication for that ?
[03:45] <puff> To clarify, I'm not sure it's a bug, would like discuss with somebody more advanced before filing a bug.
[03:45] <nitrohax> Chintan> personal files or the whole set up of th machine?
[03:45] <Chintan> project files..
[03:45] <Googol30> Are you allowed to copy everything from the /mnt directory (and paste it into ~)?
[03:45] <Chintan> not big files.
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> Chintan: if you have SSH you can connect to SFTP
[03:45] <ecart> Chintan install apache and zip your files and access your files via browser
[03:45] <ecart> ;/
[03:45] <nitrohax> Chintan> depends. you aren't trying to do setup files for the oS are you?
[03:46] <Chintan> both side ubuntu
[03:46] <nitrohax> Chintan> exactly, do an appache SFTP
[03:46] <Chintan> how ?
[03:46] <ecart> O.o
[03:46] <nitrohax> Chintan> one se
[03:46] <ecart> wampp
[03:46] <ecart> server
[03:46] <Johnn> I cannot log into Ubuntu Operating System it gives me a message along the lines of minimal bash like like editing is supported. Can anyone help me?
[03:46] <ecart> or apt-get install httpd
[03:47] <Guest30362> hi
[03:47] <Laibsch> I'm looking for music and video player that is available for Linux and Android and stores some of it's metadata alongside the music/video files.  Please ask if my request is unclear.
[03:47] <nitrohax> Chintan> look at pm
[03:47] <escott> !sshfs | Chintan
[03:47] <dr_willis_> johntash:  you mean you are in the grub shell?
[03:48] <ecart> Chintan or online install ssh securit shell
[03:48] <ecart> very good
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> Chintan: you will need to port forward port 22 in the router to the pc and run openssh-server. You now have an SFTP server which is secure as well as giving you the ability to connect hom and run commands etc
[03:48] <Johnn> I believe it is ts the grub shell
[03:48] <dr_willis_> !fixgrub
[03:49] <ecart> ssh securit shell no need port forward
[03:49] <ecart> very easy
[03:49] <ecart> only installl and use
[03:49] <dr_willis_> the router may need port forwarding setup ecart
[03:50] <ecart> depends
[03:50] <ecart> not all
[03:50] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> he's looking for the easy GUI way of doing it.
[03:50] <dr_willis_> most will
[03:51] <Googol30> Sanity check... Verizon allows port 25565 through it's firewalls wherever down the line, right?
[03:51] <ReAzem> Two exact same authorized_keys files. Two different user.  I can only log on one, other is refusing key.
[03:51] <ReAzem> Both files are 700, Both files are owned by the respective user.
[03:51] <dr_willis_> why would they block high ports.
[03:51] <ReAzem> I use "AllowUsers user1 user2" on /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:51] <escott> ReAzem, encrypted home?
[03:52] <ReAzem> escott, No
[03:52] <puff> Chintan: The gnome file browser, nautilus, has ssh support.
[03:52] <escott> Googol30, this verizon cellular?
[03:52] <Googol30> They block port 80 to my knowledge... I can't see why port 25565, which is the port for a Minecraft server, would be much different.
[03:52] <Googol30> escott No, residential I think. Not business.
[03:53] <blackdog> g'day all. anyone able to help me debug why the slice battery on my Thinkpad won't charge? I'm a bit stumped as to where to start.
[03:53] <dr_willis_> the low ports are standardized for specific services. high ines are not
[03:53] <puff> Chintan: Start the file browser however you normally do it, then file, Connect To Server, select ssh protocol, put in the username and password.
[03:53] <blackdog> https://gist.github.com/4238511
[03:53] <dr_willis_> you could set minevraft on a different port
[03:54] <blackdog> extra-confusing because 'acpi' tells me that battery 0 is unknown and battery 1 is the built-in one.
[03:54] <puff> blackdog: I have no clue as to your problem, but ##ibmthinkpad can be very helpful if people are awake there (50/50 chance).  Also, linux-thinkpad mailing list is also quite useful.
[03:55] <blackdog> puff: ah, thank you. i'll ask there.
[03:57] <rainbowwarrior2> I have completely forgotten what i came on for, if anyone sees it can they give me it back please ?
[03:57] <escott> Googol30, they could be doing dpi and blocking minecraft in particular
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> blackdog: I'd ask in ##hardware
[03:58] <blackdog> ActionParsnip: thank you, i'll try there too.
[03:59] <escott> ReAzem, only other thing to check is ownership of .ssh folder
[04:00] <Googol30> Anyone have any experience with noip on Ubuntu Server?  Something isn't working somewhere down the line for me and I suspect it's No-IP.
[04:00] <ReAzem> escott, .ssh is owned by the user.
[04:01] <x__> how do you turn off this amazon spyware I keep hearing about ?
[04:01] <ReAzem> Im going crazy
[04:02] <ReAzem> escott, I dont know if this matters, but vmuser had no id_rsa. All it has is authorized_keys.
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> !shopping
[04:02] <escott> ReAzem, the user you are logging into need not have an id_rsa
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> x__: sudo apt-get --purge remove unity-lens-shopping
[04:03] <escott> ReAzem, the id_rsa needs to be on the user you originate from
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> x__: then log off and on, its not spyware
[04:03] <ReAzem> escott, I just did "cat /var/log/auth.log" and found the following: "bad ownership or modes for dirrectory /home/user"
[04:04] <escott> ReAzem, it should check down until it gets to a root owned folder. usually $HOME is not fouled up yours must be
[04:04] <x__> ActionParsnip, does it monitor what I do and report it to some company... ?
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> x__: no, it sends suggestion based on your search, its not watching what you do on the OS
[04:05] <ReAzem> escott, Sorry, I don't understand.
[04:05] <x__> ActionParsnip, so it monitors my searchs then ?
[04:05] <escott> ReAzem, who owns /home/user
[04:06] <ReAzem> escott, The user, and some other group.
[04:06] <escott> ReAzem, and permissions are?
[04:06] <ReAzem> escott, 770
[04:06] <escott> ReAzem, should be 750
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> x__: there is no identification, all the text used to retrieve the searches is anonymous
[04:07] <ReAzem> escott, Why?
[04:07] <NSAgent> x__: Don't search for your name ;)
[04:08] <escott> ReAzem, suppose I was a member of group, and you did not have a .ssh. then i could create one, fill in my own auth_keys and chown it over to you.
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> x__: if you don't like it then remove it, not tricky :)
[04:08] <dr_willis_> dont search for words that  contain dirty words either....;-)
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis_: like scunthorpe? ;)
[04:08] <x__> ActionParsnip, it still sounds like spyware to me... It is also against the whole open source doctrine
[04:09] <ReAzem> escott, Thanks for giving me the actual reason =). Let me see if this solves it.
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> x__: its removable so I dn't care, its also only installed by default if you use unity which is also optional
[04:09] <ReAzem> escott, Woa. Worked. yay! Thank you =)
[04:10] <x__> ActionParsnip, of course it is optional, but it is the default ubuntu setup. All spyware is removable it is just how hard it is to remove it...
[04:10] <dr_willis_> wife loves the shopping thing.
[04:10] <escott> ReAzem, if you need to share in $HOME with other users create a subfolder for that other user
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> x__: its a package like anything else, not hard at all. a single command
[04:10] <dr_willis_> its not spying.
[04:10] <ReAzem> escott, Thats what I'm doing right now. Just need to edit 2-3 lines of my script.
[04:10] <NSAgent> dr_willis_: We love it at work
[04:11] <dr_willis_> back to ontopic...
[04:11] <x__> ActionParsnip, I am not disputing how easy it is to remove, I removed it already. I am saying I don't understand why this was ever included with a linux distribution....? it goes against foss principles
[04:11] <x__> this IS on topic
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> x__: some people like it and use it. Its just one more package for me to carve out of a clean install
[04:11] <x__> just because you don't like my opinion
[04:11] <dr_willis_> its nit support related.
[04:11] <x__> sure it is
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> x__: no this is a SUPPORT channel, not discussion
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> x__: this is for folks who are having issues installing programs or pointers on themes, not shooting the breeze
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> x__: so, its not support related
[04:12] <dr_willis_> you ask how to remove it.. thats a support question.   why caonacle does stuff isnot.
[04:13] <nitrohax> chintan>it's a router prob.
[04:13] <dr_willis_> to muc chatter drowns out the real support questions.
[04:13] <x__> where would I ask why they would include this then?
[04:13] <nitrohax> i guess chintan gave up
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> x__: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <bibach> Trying to install 12.04 32-bit onto a Samsung N-150 Plus netbook (Phoenix BIOS, came with Win7 Starter).  Put the ISO on a USB flash drive (2G SD card in an adapter) with the Universal USB installer, just as I did on another laptop.  The netbook just will not boot off the USB drive, though.  No CD/DVD drive.  Want to install onto new partitions in empty space I've cleared on the HD, rather than wubi.  Any suggestions?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> bibach: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[04:14] <dr_willis_> shuttleworths blog said why i belive
[04:15] <escott> bibach, not sure SD cards are bootable under most bioses
[04:15] <x__> because amazon is pating them ?
[04:15] <x__> paying*
[04:15] <nitrohax> SD cards are not bootable.
[04:15] <bibach> ActionParsnip: No... good idea.  Though, I was getting the same results when I first tried doing this with the 64-bit ISO that I successfully used on the other laptop.
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: depends on bios
[04:15] <dr_willis_> nitrohax:  they can be
[04:16] <nitrohax> Only if the BIOS can recognize a botable media such as sd cards. you maye be able to make it a botable usb device
[04:16] <NSAgent> x__: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1182 (the why, discuss elsewhere please)
[04:16] <dr_willis_> ive had issues with the usb creator tool befor. rtru some other tools from the pendrivelinux site
[04:16] <nitrohax> if using a USb card reader, most times the card reader even if built in is a usb device
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: exactly, so saying they are 'not bootable' is incorrect, they may be bootable depending on BIOS :)
[04:17] <dr_willis_> my netbooks can boot from sd.
[04:17] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> i covered my ass on that one
[04:17] <dr_willis_> i run ubuntu on them that way
[04:17] <NSAgent> If it cannot boot from SD, there will be no option for it in a boot menu
[04:17] <NSAgent> if boot fails it is something else
[04:18] <bibach> The netbook is only a couple years old, but I guess that's no guarantee that it supports this.
[04:18] <escott> NSAgent, i wouldn't assume that either. i would just try a usb keychain device first
[04:19] <dr_willis_> my old  AAO boots from sd
[04:19] <Hausas> I think I'll go downstairs to play some fifa
[04:19] <dr_willis_> my newer eee does also
[04:19] <nitrohax> bibach>  "MOST" net books dont not see the Sd card as a removable or bootable media. try using a IDE/SATA to USB connectiong
[04:19] <escott> NSAgent, it could also seriously confuse the kernel for grub to bring it up on a multi-function sd card reader
[04:19] <hellhammer> im running ubuntu 12.04 and im have a AMD unsupported hardware watermark in the corner but my hardware is support and my 3d is working how do i remove this watermark?
[04:20] <nitrohax> oh hell, never heard of that before.
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: can you give a screenshot to outline the issue please
[04:20] <jagginess> hellhammer, me too ^
[04:20] <amigamia> you mean the watermark in the corner?
[04:20] <hellhammer> yes
[04:20] <amigamia> oh
[04:20] <hellhammer> it doesnt show up in screenshots
[04:20] <amigamia> :D
[04:20] <hellhammer> it looks like a dot matrix image
[04:20] <bibach> What about a non-USB boot, such as network boot (is that still done with TFTP, these days?) or pushing grub onto the MSB from Windows and getting it to load the install from somewhere?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: something like imageshack etc
[04:20] <amigamia> umm
[04:21] <nitrohax> hellhammer> I just wanted to tell you good luck, we are all counting on you "from the movie airplane"
[04:21] <jagginess> hellhammer, once upon a time, not my time, not your time
[04:21] <jagginess> hellhammer, something interesting
[04:21] <amigamia> that's strange hellhammer
[04:21] <jagginess> hellhammer, ya i know..
[04:21] <amigamia> can you make a screenshot and pastebin?
[04:21] <NSAgent> bibach: Netboot still works, but you need to boot off of something originally to start it
[04:22] <WeThePeople> hellhammer, imgh.us
[04:22] <jagginess> hellhammer, yes uh huh
[04:22] <hellhammer> http://www.imagebam.com/image/1c6209224622720
[04:22] <NSAgent> bibach: Unless you use PXE
[04:22] <hellhammer> screenshot
[04:22] <nitrohax> jagginess> my episodes always begin at episode IVI hope
[04:22] <hellhammer> but it doesnt show up in the picture
[04:22] <escott> bibach, problem with pushing from windows is that grub is a multi-stage bootloader. i needs space outside the mbr
[04:22] <bibach> The BIOS has PXE as an option.  Just need a TFTP server?  Or some other protocol?
[04:23] <jagginess> hellhammer, cant help ya.. the desktop picture is too depressing
[04:23] <bibach> escott: Good point, forgot about that.
[04:23] <NSAgent> bibach: DHCP with some options as well, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[04:23] <nitrohax> jagginess> like someone in hating punching a baby with a sad puppy in the background?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: was going to say...where am I looking :)
[04:23] <xander> How do you mount an image?
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> xander: you can use mounty
[04:24] <hellhammer> its not in the picture
[04:24] <hellhammer> its like an overlay watermark
[04:24] <hellhammer> it wont show up in screenshots
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> xander: or run:   sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: got a camera?
[04:24] <nitrohax> hellhammer> on you screen you are sayign you have a watermark?
[04:24] <Guest23434> ActionParsnip: mounty? what is that?
[04:24] <hellhammer> yes
[04:25] <hellhammer> looks like this
[04:25] <hellhammer> http://i.stack.imgur.com/dmW6D.jpg
[04:25] <hellhammer> this picture shows the watermark
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: its a GUI app for mounting images, for people who find loop mounting too hard
[04:25] <bibach> Netboot sounds promising; I'll give that a try.  Thanks, all!
[04:25] <nitrohax> belive it or not, there is a site on that
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: that is strange
[04:26] <Guest23434> actionparsnip: where can I download it?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: there is a ppa
[04:26] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> i guess it happens alot, there i a askubu thread on it
[04:27] <Guest23434> ActionParsnip: a what? I just looked in the ubuntu media center and I didn't find it.
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: you need a 3rd party source
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?19875-Unsupported-Hardware-watermark
[04:27] <dr_willis_> iso mounting gui?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=mounty+ubuntu    too hard for you?
[04:28] <warz> hi all. i just tried install ubuntu 12.10 desktop on my computer with an nvidia gtx 580 video card. it doesnt seem to support it. in fact, ubuntu just seems to take a big crap all over it.
[04:28] <warz> is this common?
[04:28] <dr_willis_> !info giso
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: didn't think to do that....?
[04:28] <warz> nvidia cards and ubuntu
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> warz: which nvidia driver version are you running?
[04:28] <guang_> is there a word in usb's sector indicate the app used to open the usb?
[04:29] <Guest23434> ActionParsnip: Why so hostile? Yes I did think of that however I used google and didn't find anything
[04:29] <dr_willis_> warz:  not an issue with my older nvidia  cards
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest23434: because its such a basic thing to try
[04:29] <warz> ActionParsnip, I was trying to install the latest, but it was failing. I'm not sure how to check, otherwise. It's relatively recent, though. It was only a few minor version behind
[04:29] <warz> its whichever one ships with ubuntu, I guess
[04:29] <warz> so whichever is latest on aptitude
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> warz: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep nvidia-current
[04:30] <warz> ActionParsnip, well one moment. Let me see if I can get back to a command line. It's all borked. lol.
[04:30] <warz> gimme a few secs.
[04:30] <dr_willis_> warz:  thats 2 different ones. ;-)
[04:30] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> i'm trying to google, google, to see how google finds google on the internet. you think i should try google.com then searching for google?
[04:30] <dr_willis_> nitrohax:  use askjeeves
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: don't put google into google, you'll break the internet :)
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: use duckduckgo :) it's the awesome
[04:31] <warz> ActionParsnip, 304.51.really
[04:31] <warz> amd64
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> warz: sounds ok. If you run:   sudo lshw -C display     do you see:   driver=nvidia
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> warz: also, do you also see an Intel GPU in the output?
[04:32] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> but th elders of the internet...they know who i am?!
[04:32] <WeThePeople> nitrohax, site:google.com <<< put this in google search bar
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> nitrohax: the internet doesn't weigh anything :)
[04:33] <nitrohax> WeThePeople> Silly, the internet weighs nothing
[04:33] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> damn it that was my line
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: my search bar searches duckduckgo :)
[04:33] <nitrohax> WeThePeople> the blinking light means it's woring
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: i especially love the ppa bang :)
[04:34] <WeThePeople> lol
[04:34] <nitrohax> ActionParsnip> It's the internet, it's WIFI.
[04:34] <warz> one sec, i rebooted and im trying to get back to terimal again. heh
[04:36] <warz> well i dont see that exact text, but i do see the following
[04:37] <warz> "product: GF110 [GeForce GTX580]"
[04:37] <warz> below a line that says "*-display UNCLAIMED"
[04:37] <nitrohax> another CMA, hellhammer was told that by activating certain drivers they he may need to uninstall them using the server CLI
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> warz: so you only have the nvidia gpu?
[04:38] <warz> ya only 1 card
[04:38] <nitrohax> I'll mine that for a dollar
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> warz: try running:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    and rebooting
[04:38] <bazhang> nitrohax, ?
[04:38] <warz> ok
[04:39] <bazhang> nitrohax, what are you talking about
[04:40] <warz> "WARNING: unable to locate or open X config file"
[04:40] <warz> it wrote a new file
[04:40] <warz> that to be expected?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> warz: its fine, it then makes one for you
[04:41] <nitrohax> bazhang> all i can say is "watch robo cop"
[04:41] <WeThePeople> what one
[04:41] <nitrohax> WeThePeople> there is nly one
[04:41] <warz> woah ok it booted into gnome or whatever this is now days but the resolution is all whack
[04:41] <warz> how can i verify that its using the driver?
[04:41] <sambagirl> my god what kind of  image file was that anyway?
[04:42] <almoxarife> whack is good?
[04:42] <warz> negatory
[04:42] <warz> ghost rider
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> warz: run:  sudo lshw -C display
[04:43] <warz> hm, i tried logging in and it seems to have failed to load all the way. it just sat with the backgroun and no UI loaded. im gonna boot back into terminal mode.
[04:43] <sambagirl> hi Action!
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> warz: you may want to run:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf     and change the resolution
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> hi amigamia
[04:44] <nitrohax> damn it 7Gb mka. later
[04:44] <warz> same display output
[04:45] <amigamia> i've noticed lately there are a lot of linux virus protection and seek n destroy applications to protect us from windows exe infections :)
[04:46] <amigamia> is ubuntu bundling with any particular virus protection vendor?
[04:46] <warz> hm ok ill look up how to set resolution
[04:46] <almoxarife> amigamia: virus?
[04:46] <amigamia> yes apparantly there are a lot of malicious windows exe viruses attacking ubuntu os and even solaris. i read about it.
[04:47] <almoxarife> amigamia: you mean virus check shared files? the ones windoz may have to open?
[04:47] <cheesecakes> windows virus attacking ubuntu
[04:47] <almoxarife> amigamia: thats news i have not heard about, which for instance? got a link?
[04:47] <cheesecakes> is this even possible :/
[04:48] <amigamia> i also read that operating systems like reactos, haiku, zeta and even AmigaOS is being threatened by these windows exe malicious viruses and that is why i am checking to see which viender Ubuntu is going to bundle with future releases? :D
[04:48] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: could attack a wine app
[04:48] <dr_willis_> cheesecakes:  i require proof. ;-)
[04:48] <amigamia> Now i saw on tv about Mcaffee and i hope that vendor isnt chosen
[04:48] <amigamia> he's kinda creepy
[04:49] <cheesecakes> almoxarife: but a wine app wont threaten your system or would it ?
[04:49] <bazhang> amigamia, lets get back on topic
[04:49] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: linux? no
[04:49] <dr_willis_> biggest danger to a ubuntu box i see.. is the end user doing sinthing silly.
[04:49] <cheesecakes> lets say you use an infected exe with wine
[04:49] <Amelia28> Hello, I have Ubuntu and HP Touchsmart and I am trying to calibrate touchscreen using program calibrate touchscreen but when this program opens in the terminal an error message displays "Error: No calibratable devices found"...........any suggestions on how to move forward??
[04:49] <amigamia> dr_willis_ i read in the Midnight news paper while waiting at the checkout about it.
[04:50] <bazhang> amigamia, thats enough.
[04:50] <bazhang> !virus | cheesecakes amigamia
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Amelia28: are there any bugs reported?
[04:50] <dr_willis_> cheesecakes:  i used to test malware in wine to determine what it installed. to make removeing it easier
[04:51] <cheesecakes> yeah so we have troll/ highly misinformed person and i dont need to worry about it right
[04:51] <cheesecakes> dr_willis_: nice
[04:51] <bazhang> cheesecakes, no need to worry. read the link above
[04:51] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: wine runs in a sandbox, worse case scenario you delete /home/your-user-name/.wine , poof, gone
[04:51] <dr_willis_> malware is not the same as a virus either
[04:52] <cheesecakes> ok cool
[04:52] <warz> meh. im not sure. it just sits at a screen showing the background after i log in.
[04:52] <dr_willis_> its 'fud' fighting night here it seems.
[04:52] <cheesecakes> yeah i should start trusting linux more
[04:52] <cheesecakes> and not trust random strangers
[04:53] <dr_willis_> biggest danger to a ubuntu box i see.. is the end user.  v;-)
[04:53] <cheesecakes> dr_willis_: a user like who likes change stuff just because to see what happens :D
[04:53] <almoxarife> dr_willis_: deep
[04:54] <RickZilla> I don't know about that, dr_willis_, the best way to learn ubuntu is to install it and mess around with it. Even if you break something you've learned
[04:54] <RickZilla> What's the worst that can happen? You wipe the install and start all over
[04:54] <RickZilla> it's not like you're going to start a fire or something
[04:54] <dr_willis_> pc explodes.. ;-)
[04:56] <dr_willis_> blue smoke escapes... pcs need that blue smoke.
[04:56] <puff> RickZilla: Ubuntu initiates a total mass-energy conversion of his PC, destroying most of the state he lives in.
[04:56] <dr_willis_>  i live in a state of denile.
[04:57] <puff> dr_willis_: You live in egypt?
[04:57] <puff> Ugh, okay, so nvidia-experimental-310 still has not solved my external monitor problem.
[04:58] <dr_willis_> ii do wish they would include that ubuntu manual  on the desktop. and some other   "ubuntu is not windows" guides
[04:58] <RickZilla> They do...it's called google :-)
[04:59] <bazhang> !lnw | RickZilla
[04:59] <RickZilla> I'm just one app from being able to shed Windows altogether
[05:00] <puff> I haven't booted windows on my laptop in years... still have to maintain mom's windows machine :-).
[05:01] <almoxarife> i went win free when i found that i could get my taxes done via web-browser on the linux box, what a happy day
[05:01] <puff> It's occasionally a pain, usually because Other People insist on using proprietary formats (though most of the time I open office or etc can handle that).
[05:01] <dr_willis_> the horrors of booting up a windows machive that hasent been on or updated in 6+ months..... ;-)
[05:02] <Guest69164> ActionParsnip: Mounty won't install, any other program suggestions?
[05:02] <Guest69164> For mounting .dd images?
[05:02] <dr_willis_> Guest69164:  command line is the best way
[05:03] <almoxarife> dr_willis_: do you get the 'these icons have not seen the light of day since noah was a boot camp, care to lose them now?'
[05:03] <dr_willis_> since a "dd" imgage can vary greatly
[05:03] <Guest69164> dr_willis_: how do I do it in the command mount?
[05:03] <dr_willis_> !iso
[05:04] <dr_willis_> similer to the command given above
[05:04] <Guest69164> ubottu: what is a mountpoint?
[05:04] <dr_willis_> sudo mount -o loop image -f auto  mountpoi
[05:05] <dr_willis_> !mount |  Guest69164
[05:05] <Guest69164> dr_willis_: what is a mount point? how does one create it?
[05:06] <dr_willis_> ts where the filesystem shows up
[05:06] <dr_willis_> a directory
[05:06] <dr_willis_> like   /media/mydrive
[05:06] <WeThePeople> if i burn 2 iso to the same rw-disc will they show up/
[05:07] <WeThePeople> lets say 12.04 and 10.04
[05:07] <dr_willis_> no WeThePeople
[05:07] <Amelia28> how do I create a directory in the command line??? :)
[05:07] <dr_willis_> yyou can make multi iso usb sticks
[05:07] <Zael> not without modifing them
[05:07] <dr_willis_> Amelia28:  mkdir
[05:07] <Zhaofeng_Li> Amelia28: mkdir
[05:07] <Amelia28> thanks :)
[05:08] <dr_willis_> !bash
[05:08] <dr_willis_> bash basics.
[05:09] <mohajuice> hello dr_willis how to install usb modem i hav usb driver files in a debian package format but i don't know how to install them
[05:09] <dr_willis_> mohajuice:  where did they come from?
[05:10] <Thete> sudo dkpg -i package.deb
[05:10] <dr_willis_> a usb dialup modem? 3g modem?
[05:11] <mohajuice> its in vitual cdrom in a usb modem
[05:11] <dr_willis_> or    sudo gdebi  file.deb
[05:11] <Thete> wut?
[05:12] <dr_willis_> iit came on a flash drive built into the modem?
[05:12] <mohajuice> its 3g HSPA modem
[05:12] <dr_willis_> i doubt if it will work 2ith that. deb
[05:12] <Thete> why wouldn't it?
[05:13] <dr_willis_> binary drivers are kernel specific normally.
[05:13] <Thete> maybe it's not a binary
[05:13] <dr_willis_> this is not windows.
[05:13] <mohajuice> these r the ubuntu specific drivers
[05:13] <dr_willis_> then it would be a. src.deb wouldent it?
[05:14] <Thete> Maybe it is
[05:14] <Thete> who knows
[05:14] <Thete> hehe
[05:14] <dr_willis_> thats supriseing they would include ubuntu drivers.
[05:14] <Thete> I would assume that if it does have a deb driver included, it's most likely ubuntu
[05:14] <Thete> Cause who runs debian
[05:15] <dr_willis_> ask why they  dont include the drivers in the ubuntu repos... is a better question
[05:15] <mohajuice> can i send u those driver files
[05:16] <dr_willis_> mohajuice:  you hace just tried plugging it in to see if it workd?
[05:17] <dr_willis_> then try the additional -drivers tool to see if it suggests anything
[05:17] <vite> Hi, how do I access files on an ubuntu server without using ftp? server is within my private lan
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Thete: http://www.debian.org/users/
[05:18] <EmmEight> ubuntu IRC on a Friday night.. we aren't nerds
[05:18] <dr_willis_> vite: ssh. scp. samba nfs..
[05:18] <dr_willis_> EmmEight:  im at work. v:-P
[05:18] <EmmEight> I just got off a few hours ago ha
[05:18] <cheesecakes> its saturday morning for me
[05:18] <vite> dr_willis_: will my windows pc detect samba?
[05:18] <EmmEight> even worse cheescakes
[05:19] <dr_willis_> vite: yes
[05:19] <EmmEight> vite yes
[05:19] <dr_willis_> !samba
[05:19] <isasha> help
[05:19] <vite> thanks
[05:19] <cheesecakes> isaha give your problem details
[05:19] <dr_willis_> vite:  or use  winscp and ssh. for simple transfers
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> Thete: quite a few going by that list
[05:20] <Destroxx> Hello
[05:20] <cheesecakes> hello
[05:21] <cheesecakes> connecting blackberries and using them as modems is difficult
[05:21] <Destroxx> never tried that
[05:21] <EmmEight> using blackberries is difficult
[05:21] <EmmEight> why?
[05:22] <cheesecakes> actually it rim's fault for not developing a desktop manager app for linux
[05:22] <Destroxx> i think he means as a modem (??)
[05:22] <cheesecakes> EmmEight: the available apps dont seem to work properly
[05:23] <mohajuice> i try to send u files
[05:23] <bryan_> How is everyone?
[05:24] <cheesecakes> mohajuice: me?
[05:24] <cheesecakes> i am good bryan_
[05:25] <bryan_> That's good, cheesecakes. I am a bit tired.
[05:25] <Destroxx> has anyone seen the ubuntu tablet concept yet ??????/
[05:25] <EmmEight> NO
[05:25] <cheesecakes> i am fresh as i just woke up :D
[05:26] <Destroxx> seriously i think its wayy col
[05:26] <Destroxx> cool*
[05:26] <bryan_> ooo, fresh is good :P
[05:28] <cheesecakes> time for lunch
[05:30] <mehwork> my mouse cursor disappeared. How can i refresh it without restarting?
[05:32] <bin_bash> is it true that when you search for something on the ubuntu desktop it gets sent back to canonical?
[05:32] <mehwork> bin_bash: everything RMS says is true
[05:33] <cheesecakes> bin_bash: are you the exe guy?
[05:34] <bin_bash> cheesecakes, the exe guy?
[05:34] <bin_bash> mehwork, idk about everything, but is this true?
[05:35] <cheesecakes> nvm it was someone else
[05:35] <mehwork> arg even sudo modprobe -r psmouse didn't fix my mouse issue. The cursor icon is completely disappeared
[05:35] <bin_bash> did you try turning it off and then on again
[05:35] <mehwork> i think ubuntu must have uploaded my mouse cursor to canonical too :(
[05:35] <cheesecakes> hhaha
[05:35] <mehwork> i really can't afford to restart ubuntu right now, too much going on
[05:36] <whatwhat> so.... i heard
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> mehwork: hit alt+tab may help
[05:36] <cheesecakes> how aboutunplugging it and then plugging it back in
[05:36] <whatwhat> BIRD IS THE WORD
[05:36] <mehwork> ActionParsnip: that was the first thing i tried, that would normally help me when my cursor gets all messed up but isn't in this case
[05:37] <mehwork> my cursor is constantly messed up since i installed the latest ubuntu, everytime it touches the right side of my screen it turns almost invisible and this time it turned completely invisible and wont come back
[05:37] <mehwork> most annoying thing i've ever witnessed
[05:37] <mehwork> i even plugged a usb mouse into this laptop and still nothin
[05:37] <dr_willis_> you overworked your mouse
[05:37] <dr_willis_> is it just invisible?
[05:37] <mehwork> it's invisible, i f i move it around i can see it ghosting over things like text
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> mehwork: try switching workspace
[05:38] <mehwork> ActionParsnip: i did all that believe me
[05:38] <mehwork> ActionParsnip: i also tried locking my screen and unlocking
[05:38] <mehwork> simple repaints aren't bringing it back
[05:39] <mehwork> why does stuff like this only ever happen at the worst time, when i can't restart and have a deadline
[05:39] <bin_bash> why can't you restart
[05:39] <mehwork> i'm running long term processes that i can't just abandon right now
[05:40] <mehwork> it would set me back a couple hours
[05:40] <atlus> what do I need to install to ./configure 32-bit in 64-bit ubuntu 12.10
[05:41] <mehwork> i even unplugged my second monitor and it's still not fixing it
[05:42] <dr_willis_> try changeing mouse themes?
[05:43] <dr_willis_> atlus: if you install a 32bit deb it should pull in all needed dependencies
[05:43] <Destroxx> is this tech suporte lol
[05:43] <mehwork> dr_willis_: how
[05:43] <bin_bash> no
[05:44] <atlus> dr willis what is that 32bit deb called?
[05:45] <cutt3r> I have a 20GB SSD and a 500GB HDD.  I want to install the OS on the SSD encrypted and the /home on the HDD encrypted.  Do I need to worry about TRIM on the SSD if only the OS is going to be on the SSD?
[05:47] <bin_bash> Why do you guys use a distro that is also a spyware?
[05:47] <mehwork> i don't understand what sudo modprobe -r psmouse woulnd't fix this
[05:47] <RickZilla> bin_bash: Why do you troll?
[05:47] <bin_bash> I'm not trolling
[05:47] <RickZilla> Sure you are
[05:47] <bin_bash> I'm genuinely curious why you hate your own freedom
[05:47] <RickZilla> This is a channel dedicated for ubuntu support
[05:48] <dr_willis_> atlus: any 32 bit deb like wine should pull in  the needed 32  bit support ddebs
[05:48] <mehwork> bin_bash: people don't generally equate not having 100% privacy to not having freedom
[05:48] <mehwork> most people don't care much about certain privacy things, even though they should, but if they don't they don't. Worry about your own not others
[05:48] <bin_bash> mehwork, they should. That's just ignorant.
[05:48] <Malimbar> mehwork, I'd recommend to try not to feed the trolls.
[05:49] <mehwork> Malimbar: i would love to get an answer that worked and then leave
[05:49] <bin_bash> mehwork, did you try googling it
[05:49] <Malimbar> mehwork, then I would be happy to talk in separate, but not in an ubuntu support channel
[05:50] <Malimbar> oh wait, you meant your issue
[05:50] <mehwork> bin_bash: alli 'm doing is googling and asking in here and nothings working
[05:50] <dr_willis_> so the mouse is dead? or just invisible cursor
[05:50] <Malimbar> sorry, no idea
[05:50] <mehwork> dr_willis_: just invisible cursor, it still moves and clicks
[05:50] <bin_bash> mehwork, what is the problem exactly
[05:52] <dr_willis_> i firget how you change mouse themes...
[05:53] <Malimbar> did you do anything that may have accidentally screwed up the mouse cursor?
[05:53] <digitaldefector> does anyone know of a website that specializes in sharing scripts for Ubuntu?
[05:54] <dr_willis_> iinvisble mouse pointers. ;(
[05:54] <dr_willis_> there was a command years ago to set the cursor. xsetroot?
[05:54] <mehwork> Malimbar: it screws up everytime i touch the right edge of my second monitor
[05:54] <Malimbar> ... huh
[05:54] <mehwork> it's a weird problem that happens either because of the latest ubuntu or because my acer laptop isn't supported
[05:55] <mehwork> most likely the latter since noone else is saying it happens to them
[05:55] <ubuntu> how do i remove grub from a live cd
[05:55] <RickZilla> Is the usb installer here persistent? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[05:55] <atlus> anyone have any idea how to fix this problem during ./configure http://pastebin.com/Gm3nHGGe
[05:55] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu: genereally syslinux is on live cds
[05:56] <dr_willis_> !find unclutter
[05:56] <dr_willis_> !info unclutter
[05:56] <SolarisBoy> Guest56589: you can unpack the iso remove the folder it and pack it back up, but then it wouldn't boot
[05:56] <dr_willis_> iif it  hides it.. it may bring it back
[05:59] <Malimbar> atlus, have you looked up ia32-libs? there should be a dev version too
[06:00] <Guest56589> im on a live cd and the terminal commands are not working, what do i have to do to install ms-sys
[06:00] <Malimbar> ms-sys? what is that?
[06:01] <Guest56589> malimbar, it restores windows mbr
[06:01] <Guest56589> i think
[06:01] <digitaldefector> does anyone know of a website that specializes in sharing scripts for Ubuntu?
[06:01] <mehwork> dr_willis_: i installed unclutter. Now what?
[06:01] <Malimbar> ah, looked it up on duckduckgo
[06:02] <dr_willis_> mehwork:  it hides the cursor after a few moments.. and  restores it when moved.
[06:02] <Guest56589> dr_willis, do i need to enable 'universe' to install with the terminal
[06:02] <dr_willis_> if you are lucky
[06:02] <Malimbar> mehwork, just try to make your cursor invisible, wait a few seconds, and then move it again
[06:02] <Malimbar> if it works
[06:03] <dr_willis_> !universe
[06:03] <mehwork> how many seconds? i just tried about 20
[06:03] <Malimbar> manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/unclutter.1.html
[06:03] <Malimbar> default is 5.
[06:03] <Malimbar> darn
[06:03] <mehwork> not working then and yes i did start it
[06:03] <mehwork> this is a nightmare :(
[06:03] <Malimbar> it's a weird problem too
[06:04] <Malimbar> I wonder what's causing it
[06:04] <mehwork> bad mouse drivers for acer laptops is all i can think
[06:04] <mehwork> it's a brand new system, maybe ubuntu doesnt support it yet
[06:04] <dr_willis_> aha.. old school way to change cursor.....
[06:04] <dr_willis_> xsetroot -cursor_name X_cursor
[06:05] <Malimbar> but, it's a display problem. would that still be caused by a driver?
[06:05] <Malimbar> dr_willis_, nice idea
[06:05] <mehwork> nice idea, but didnt work either
[06:05] <Malimbar> damn
[06:05] <dr_willis_> no idea if thats valid these days
[06:05] <mehwork> it didn't error
[06:05] <arossboss> hello
[06:05] <newbie211> Can anyone visit www.thepiratebay.org ?
[06:05] <Malimbar> we still rely on xserver, so why would it change?
[06:06] <newbie211> It seems to be down today...
[06:06] <Malimbar> newbie211, of course
[06:06] <dr_willis_> xorg  vs xfree
[06:06] <Malimbar> but you're not looking for .org, you're looking for .se
[06:06] <Malimbar> they changed it a while aback
[06:06] <dr_willis_> whens the last time you saw that big X corsor
[06:06] <Malimbar> lol
[06:06] <newbie211> what should be the domain
[06:06] <SolarisBoy> newbie211: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ you can always just use that in the future
[06:06] <Guest56589> dr_willis, does software sources exist on a live cd
[06:07] <Guest56589> cuz i am not finding it
[06:07] <Guest56589> 12.04
[06:08] <SolarisBoy> you can try 'apt-get source package' on a live cd
[06:08] <Malimbar> Guest56589, yes they exist in some capacity
[06:08] <Malimbar> software sources > other software > cdrom:[Ubuntu blah blah]
[06:08] <atlus> I take it that there is no other way to configure a wine patch on a 64 bit system?
[06:09] <Malimbar> atlus, what configuration are you trying to do?
[06:11] <Malimbar> The pastebin you showed earlier was complaining about you not having installed ia32-libs-dev
[06:11] <Malimbar> or something like that
[06:13] <mehwork> that was JUST friggin wonderful.
[06:14] <mehwork> an askubuntu page said to try running: compiz --replace, and it crashed and i had to restart
[06:14] <Albastos> ah ba ok :)
[06:14] <mehwork> asdsfaj;kajsfdksdak;lfas
[06:14] <mehwork> oh well, 3 hours lost, no big deal
[06:15] <Malimbar> mehwork, does this happen every reboot?
[06:15] <Malimbar> my last resort to lean on
[06:15] <dr_willis_> mehwork: does the issue affect other windowmanagers?
[06:15] <mehwork> it will mess up my cursor if i touch the right edge of my screen
[06:15] <mehwork> idk
[06:15] <Malimbar> oh yeah, different window managers would be interesting
[06:15] <Malimbar> crappy to test though
[06:15] <Malimbar> which ubuntu are you using again?
[06:15] <mehwork> 12.04
[06:15] <dr_willis_> it may be compix orvcompiz plugin specific
[06:16] <Malimbar> try loggin in using the 2d mode
[06:16] <mehwork> how
[06:16] <Malimbar> go back to the login screen
[06:16] <Guest56589> if anybody is interested you can find the software-sources if you type>>> software-properties-gtk <<< in terminal
[06:16] <Malimbar> click on the button thing int he corner
[06:16] <Malimbar> and click unity 2d
[06:16] <Malimbar> (going form memory)
[06:16] <mehwork> i want to try turning off some plugins and making compiz lighter anyway since this laptop is slow
[06:16] <Guest56589> 12.04
[06:17] <phunyguy_t430s> is there any way to restore empathy back to the minimalistic layout for the contact list? I hate the big look.
[06:18] <nick_h> when converting an RPM to a DEB, where does alien write the DEB to?
[06:18] <Malimbar> yeah, unity 2d doesn't have any of that, and it's still installed in ubuntu 12.04 I think
[06:18] <Malimbar> and it doesn't run compiz at all
[06:18] <mehwork> huh im pretty sure it runs compiz
[06:19] <Guest56589> nick_h, home folder maybe
[06:19] <dr_willis_> not on 12.04
[06:19] <mehwork> ps aux | grep compiz shows it's running
[06:19] <mehwork> and i definitely didn't install it on my own
[06:19] <Malimbar> unity 2d is made from scratch with the qt kit
[06:19] <Malimbar> so no compiz
[06:19] <dr_willis_> it uses mutter ii thought
[06:19] <Malimbar> nope, not mutter either I think
[06:19] <newbie211> I am unable o visit piratebay....
[06:19] <mehwork> oh i'm running 12.10
[06:19] <mehwork> my bad
[06:19] <dr_willis_> metacity
[06:20] <newbie211> *to
[06:20] <dr_willis_> lol.
[06:20] <Malimbar> lol
[06:20] <Malimbar> yeah, a bit different
[06:20] <dr_willis_> no unity 2d on 12.10
[06:20] <Malimbar> oh, I didn't think 12.10 had unity 2d, just unity
[06:20] <mehwork> how do i bring up a compiz settings editor in 12.10?
[06:20] <dr_willis_> !ccsm
[06:20] <mehwork> thanks
[06:21] <nick_h> Guest56589: i checked my home dir, but it's not there
[06:21] <Malimbar> tyr unity 2d before you're messing with that though
[06:21] <Malimbar> not everything in compiz configuration works, and some of it breaks crap
[06:21] <mehwork> i don't like unity at all, can i disable it? I'd rather just use gnome-do
[06:22] <Malimbar> mehwork, sure
[06:22] <RickZilla> Where is disk utility in 12.10? It's showing up in synaptic as being installed, but I don't see it anywhere
[06:22] <Malimbar> but try unity 2d first for your mouse issue
[06:22] <dr_willis_> install other desktops.
[06:22] <dr_willis_> no unity 2d on 12.10
[06:22] <dr_willis_> its gone....
[06:22] <Malimbar> dr_willis_, yeah, but he's currently on 12.04
[06:22] <mehwork> dr_willis_: well i stll want to use gnome
[06:22] <dr_willis_> he said 12.10
[06:22] <mehwork> Malimbar: no i'm on 12.10 i messed up
[06:23] <Malimbar> did he? oh missed that
[06:23] <dr_willis_> use gnome shell then mehwork
[06:23] <dr_willis_> !gnome-shell
[06:23] <dr_willis_> !gnomeshell
[06:23] <Malimbar> gnome shell... ugh. Personal preference of course
[06:23] <Malimbar> it's not the same as old gnome
[06:24] <dr_willis_> old gnome is dead jim!
[06:24] <Malimbar> dr_willis_, never! there are forks, and at least it's less broken and weird than gnome shell
[06:24] <dr_willis_> old gnome had a lot of issues also. ;-)
[06:24] <Malimbar> lol
[06:24] <dr_willis_> hes dead jim!
[06:24]  * Malimbar shrugs
[06:25] <Malimbar>  but those bugs I was used to
[06:25] <dr_willis_> same was said about windows 95. :-P
[06:25] <Malimbar> I had a friend that loved windows 95
[06:25] <Malimbar> when 98 came out he complained up a storm at the new security measures
[06:26] <dr_willis_> lubuntu works well
[06:26] <Malimbar> lubuntu does work well
[06:27] <chroot> hi, ffmpeg use too much cpu in my computer?
[06:27] <chroot> is there a way to limit this?
[06:28] <almoxarife> chroot: yes, smaller transcode or bigger cpu
[06:28] <Malimbar> chroot, is there a way to lower it's priority? that would be what I would look up
[06:29] <chroot> Malimbar: yeah, i want to limit the cpu usage of the ffmeg!
[06:29] <chroot> let me search it in googl
[06:30] <Malimbar> you can in system monitor it looks like
[06:30] <Malimbar> open the process, right click on it's priority
[06:30] <dr_willis_> ffmpeg has a threads option i belive
[06:31] <dr_willis_> it only uses 1 core y default i think.
[06:31] <Malimbar> dr_willis_, that won't use less cpu though, would it? I would imagine that would only clog it up more
[06:31] <chroot> dr_willis_: yes, I just saw it on google, but i haven't try it.
[06:31] <Malimbar> worth a shot
[06:32] <dr_willis_> even when using all my cores the ssytem is still useable for me
[06:32] <almoxarife> Malimbar: if i did what you suggested, would that only be for the present session? or would it write to something?
[06:32] <dr_willis_> whats your system  specs?
[06:32] <Malimbar> almoxarife, pretty sure it's only one session
[06:33] <almoxarife> Malimbar: thnks, gave me an idea
[06:33] <Malimbar> yay
[06:33] <almoxarife> yay
[06:34] <dr_willis_> yay!
[06:35] <dr_willis_> >fluttershy<
[06:36] <myhero> how to prepare a single deb of any app with its dependencies included in it ?
[06:37] <almoxarife> thats something i dont see much, 'nice' tweaks, like the old tweaks for xp, everyone had one on the web
[06:37] <dr_willis_> hmm. i dont recall ever seeign that done myhero
[06:37] <myhero> dr_willis_: so is it possible or not ?
[06:38] <dr_willis_> hmm. i dont recall ever seeign that done myhero ......
[06:38] <dr_willis_> :)
[06:38] <myhero> ok
[06:38] <dr_willis_> i dont see how it would be possible
[06:38] <almoxarife> myhero: compile it from source, end the process with 'checkinstall' verses make install, presto, a deb
[06:38] <dr_willis_> he wantes a super-deb i guess.
[06:39] <myhero> almoxarife: thnx :)
[06:39] <almoxarife> dr_willis_: super-debi?
[06:39] <dr_willis_> or did i missread
[06:39] <dr_willis_> a single deb with all deps included.......  he said
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> myhero: packages, especially gui ones would have gigabytes of data to have all deps
[06:40] <dr_willis_> and the deps have deps.. that have deps..
[06:41] <myhero> dr_willis_: lol no..but my intention is organised backup.....apps with dependencies are hard to organise on local system
[06:41] <myhero> ActionParsnip: i want it for smaller apps only or the onces which i develop locally
[06:42] <dr_willis_> no real need to backup the. debs  from what ive seen.
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> myhero: when you use checkinstall you can set the deps and the pckage manager will pull them in
[06:42] <seeqwell> heelllpppp! http://pastebin.com/ygYhw3AQ what do I put in my /opt/netdb/data/devicelist.csv file please?
[06:43] <nick_h> when i install from source with "./configure --prefix=/opt && make && make install" , will the software be installed in /opt ?
[06:43] <seeqwell> sudo make install nick_h
[06:43] <nick_h> ah right
[06:43] <nick_h> seeqwell: and that'll install into /opt ?
[06:44] <almoxarife> !checkinstall
[06:44] <seeqwell> yes
[06:44] <almoxarife> seeqwell: see\
[06:44] <nick_h> thanks guys
[06:44] <myhero> hmm
[06:44] <nick_h> what i'm trying to do is install a newer version of ImageMagick
[06:45] <dr_willis_> there may be a ppa for it nick_h
[06:45] <almoxarife> does alien do a good job of debi-fying?
[06:45] <nick_h> i converted a newer version RPM to a DEB, but it won't install because it wants to overwrite a file that an existing package owns
[06:45] <dr_willis_> alien and rpms are best avoided
[06:46] <dr_willis_> !alien
[06:46] <seeqwell> can anyone help me with my device list file?  are they talking about getting my info from /etc/hosts or where  http://pastebin.com/ygYhw3AQ
[06:46] <dr_willis_> repos. ppas or source.... bestbets.. then  other ways
[06:47] <nick_h> dr_willis_: there's a PPA for ImageMagick, but it doesn't include a packaged version of 6.8
[06:47] <dr_willis_> may be newer ppas.
[06:47] <nick_h> dr_willis_: where would i find those?
[06:47] <Ascavasaion> Odd question here... possibly... But howcome the virtualbox 4.2.xxxxxxx is 57Mb from www.virtualbox.org and the virtualbox 4.1.xxxxxxx is 23.5Mb through Ubuntu's Software Manager?  4.1 to 4.2 and more than double the size?
[06:47] <dr_willis_> use the ppa search site/tools
[06:48] <dr_willis_> ubuntus may be split into otger debs.
[06:48] <dr_willis_> other
[06:49] <Ascavasaion> dr_willis_: Oh, hmmm  I am at work and do not want to download too much hehe
[06:49] <dr_willis_> or they used better compression. ;-)
[06:50] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: you are better off with the version from the website
[06:51] <WhiteCreation> k
[06:51] <nick_h> !ppa
[06:51] <almoxarife> i really trashed my system once with ppa-purge, that was a hard lesson
[06:53] <dr_willis_> bbl
[06:53] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: Thank you... I was thinking that because I run Ubuntu as my primary OS, but I have a DSTV Drifta (device with an antennae used to watch TV through laptop/phone) but it only runs through Windows.  So I was thinking of installing XP in Virtualbox and trying to get that to work.  I tried once before with no success.  I seem to think it had to do with the USB port in Virtualbox.
[06:54] <teubank> Ver 12.10, recently installed, gnome-session-fallback, everything working,  update-manager offered new updates, which I accepted.  Now system will not boot.  I can get into grub rescue, but some entries there do not seem to work properly and I'm not sure what I should be seeing.  E.g., Check filesystems, warning dialog, then mount messages then nothing.  Ctlc-C presents console login, I login, see mounts, but when I try to look at log
[06:54] <teubank>  files, screen goes blank -- similar to failing boot.  Root console does not seem to have same problem.  How should I approach this problem?
[06:55] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: there are two dowloads you need, the vbox and the extentions, the usb issue will be solved
[06:55] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: I hope so, thank you... let me try.
[06:56] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: you might also look at tvhead? for watching live tv via card , linux even
[06:56] <almoxarife> !tvhead
[06:57] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: wrong app name, forgot the name
[06:58] <Ascavasaion> almoxarife: Okay, thank you.
[06:58] <almoxarife> Ascavasaion: no, actually that is correct, xbmc with tvhead
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> teubank: what video chip do you use?
[06:59] <Ascavasaion> Thank you almoxarife
[07:00] <teubank> Intel 4000 I think.
[07:00] <nick_h> call me an idiot, but how do i add this PPA to apt? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagemagick
[07:01] <nick_h> i've tried "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:+source/imagemagick", "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:source/imagemagick", and "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu/imagemagick"
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> teubank: tried the boot option:  nomodeset
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> nick_h: imagemagick is in the repos...
[07:02] <whatwhat> is there a media center in ubuntu ?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> nick_h: what are you trying to do?
[07:02] <whatwhat> like the one in ms
[07:02] <nick_h> ActionParsnip: yeah, but i need a newer version
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> whatwhat: there is xbmc as well as others
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> nick_h: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[07:03] <nick_h> ActionParsnip: precise
[07:05] <teubank> I added nomodeset to linux line & pressed F10.  Started to boot, then blank screen.
[07:07] <teubank> This is a very fast laptop (boot to gui login < 12sec)  How do I slow things down or step trough the boot process?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> nick_h: not seeing any precise ppas for 6.8 imagemagick
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> teubank: you can read:  dmesg | less
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> teubank: if you log in at cli then stop the lightdm service, then start it. Is it ok?
[07:12] <teubank> ActionParsnip: recovery mode, root shell: yes.  What should I look for?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> teubank: `also read:   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:14] <whatwhat> is ubuntu tv a software ?
[07:14] <Evil_Eric> it can be
[07:14] <whatwhat> for tv tuner card
[07:15] <nick_h> ActionParsnip: hm, that's too bad. i'll have to compile it myself
[07:15] <whatwhat> what's the best ubuntu app for tv tuner
[07:15] <nick_h> ActionParsnip: thanks or checking
[07:16] <Evil_Eric> haupage cards are normaly supported with no issues and vlc is what i used to use for a app for watching tv
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> whatwhat: there is no single best app, for anything
[07:18] <whatwhat> vlc ?
[07:18] <whatwhat> how to use vlc for watching tv ?
[07:18] <blackshirt> i have no idea :d
[07:18] <whatwhat> is that vlc media player
[07:18] <Evil_Eric> goto the preferances and select your tunner then tune into the frequency you wanna watch
[07:19] <whatwhat> evil , i dont see no option for tv tuner selection
[07:20] <Evil_Eric> hold on ill see if i can find you a step by step guide to help you out
[07:23] <Evil_Eric> i found something but its not real clear
[07:26] <flowerld> hi
[07:27] <albatr055> new ubuntu user here...  who wants to help me get my crappy usb wireless adapter to work?  its a Ralink RT73 chip set
[07:28] <teubank> ActionParsnip: If I login as me, seems to crash about a minute later.
[07:29] <teubank> As root, I mounted /var partition, am looking at Xorg.0.log.  What should I look for?
[07:34] <cheesecakes>  how do i change whether password is asked on login
[07:35] <teubank> ActionParsnip: Xorg.0.log, last 4 lines: VESA driver; kms mode;  FBDEV: driver for framebuffer fbdev; using VT number 7.
[07:36] <cheesecakes> i got it nvm
[07:36] <cheesecakes> but it stillhas the bug where it forgets your password
[07:36] <almoxarife> xbmc
[07:44] <maujhsn> http://pastebin.com/hqwJ4zhr These files are in my /home folder they are colored red how do I delete or remove them from the folder?
[07:46] <cheesecakes> ok what i thought would help didnt
[07:46] <cheesecakes> i am using gdm
[07:46] <cheesecakes> how do i make ggdm ask my password when i am logging in
[07:46] <autolycus> anyone knows how I can download a file from a website from my command line
[07:46] <autolycus> its a zip file
[07:47] <cheesecakes> autolycus: wget <link to file>
[07:48] <autolycus> cheesecakes thanks
[07:48] <cheesecakes> np
[07:48] <nick_h> how does one install a package from a previous version of ubuntu?
[07:49] <cheesecakes> nick_h: do you mean an older version of the package?
[07:49] <nick_h> cheesecakes: yeah
[07:49] <autolycus> can we unzip a file on ubuntu?
[07:49] <mysteriousdarren> nick_h: what package are you asking?
[07:49] <autolycus> its a zip file
[07:49] <nick_h> cheesecakes: but the version of the package isn't in the version of Ubuntu that i'm running
[07:49] <nick_h> mysteriousdarren: imagemagick from oneiric-updates
[07:49] <mysteriousdarren> autolycus: yes right click and unzip
[07:50] <Guest10005> ubuntu offtopic ad
[07:50] <mysteriousdarren> autolycus: yes, wait do you have a app installed to unzip things?
[07:51] <autolycus> nope
[07:51] <cheesecakes> start nautilus and double click it
[07:51] <autolycus> I am in terminal
[07:51] <mysteriousdarren> nick_h: search for a newer one, if not do it. I'm checking/
[07:51] <maujhsn> These files are in my /home folder they are colored red how do I delete or remove them from the folder? http://pastebin.com/hqwJ4zhr
[07:52] <cheesecakes> autolycus: unzip filename
[07:53] <mysteriousdarren> cheesecakes: +1
[07:53] <cheesecakes> maujhsn: rm pulse*
[07:54] <cheesecakes> assuming nothing worth keeping starts with pulse
[07:54] <cheesecakes> and you are in your home directory
[07:55] <mysteriousdarren> nick_h: 8:6.6.9.7-5ubuntu3.2
[07:56] <nick_h> mysteriousdarren: yeah, that's the version i'm trying to avoid. there's a bug in that version of ImageMagick that's biting me
[07:56] <mysteriousdarren> nick_h: what bug are you avoiding?
[07:57] <cheesecakes> nick_h: maybe they host older versions
[07:57] <nick_h> mysteriousdarren: it's been fixed in ImageMagick 6.7.8-8 , but compiling ImageMagick with all of its deps and delegates and whatnot is an unbelievable pain in the ass
[07:57] <nick_h> mysteriousdarren: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21558
[07:57] <cheesecakes> the developers maybe hosting debs
[07:57] <nick_h> cheesecakes: ImageMagick releases RPMs, but not DEBs
[07:57] <cheesecakes> ahhh
[07:58] <nick_h> cheesecakes: i used alien to convert an RPM to a DEB, but...it's alien
[07:58] <maujhsn> cheesecakes Pulseaudio and its dependecies were extracted, configured, & compiled in home/pulse-1.0.1...so removing the files from /home is ok right?
[07:58] <mysteriousdarren> yes I see your problem.....and alien is alien :(
[07:58] <cheesecakes> nick_h: compile
[07:58] <nick_h> cheesecakes: yeah, i think that's what i'll have to do. ugh
[07:59] <cheesecakes> maujhsn: have you installed everything and you dont need these those things right ?
[07:59] <cheesecakes> or maybe just to be safe why not move them to a folder just in case
[07:59] <mysteriousdarren> i agree. but isn't there a beta out there with it fixed?
[08:00] <cheesecakes> using mkdir pulseaudiofiles && cp pulse* pulseaudiofiles
[08:00] <mysteriousdarren> nick_h: We can reproduce the problem you posted and have a patch available in ImageMagick 6.7.8-8 Beta by sometime tomorrow. Thanks. that is off of what you posted
[08:01] <nick_h> mysteriousdarren: yeah, but it means that ImageMagick needs to be compiled from source, which is a gargantuan nightmare due to its plugins' dependencies
[08:01] <maujhsn> cheesecakes Good question...I don't have a good answer right now! All I know is that its taking up too much space on my liveUSB!
[08:01] <cheesecakes> ahh
[08:02] <cheesecakes> then maybe back everything up on a different pc and then remove them for the usb
[08:02] <cheesecakes> by everything i mean the pulsefiles
[08:02] <maujhsn> cheesecakes debian packages are really complex!
[08:03] <cheesecakes> not necessarily
[08:05] <maujhsn> cheesecakes...Isn't this redundancy...using mkdir pulseaudiofiles && cp pulse* pulseaudiofiles
[08:05] <cheesecakes> oop i meant mv
[08:05] <cheesecakes> *oops
[08:05] <maujhsn> oops!
[08:06] <maujhsn> I don't know
[08:07] <maujhsn> Gonna have to talk with a pulseaudio guru
[08:09] <cheesecakes> but arent these just the installation files? maujhsn
[08:10] <maujhsn> cheesecakes...yes!
[08:11] <maujhsn> cheesecakes It was a complex buld that took over ten minutes! I watched it unfold in my terminal!
[08:13] <cheesecakes> i think you can safely remove the .deb files
[08:13] <cheesecakes> afaik
[08:19] <theraven> i just tried to change the splash resolution in ubuntu 12.10 x64  by follow the guide here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127851/change-boot-screen-resolution  but it didnt work? is there another way to change the bootscreen resolution?
[08:20] <theraven> the boot screen became messed up after installing ati drivers i should add...
[08:23] <hot2trot> how do I see a different console?  It's something like ctrl + F1 but that doesn't do it... id on't want to see the gui console, I want a command line console
[08:23] <hot2trot> i'm not een sure if "console" is the correct word
[08:23] <x_> hot2trot, ctrl+F7 is gui
[08:23] <x_> assuming X server is listening
[08:23] <hot2trot> so ctrl+F3 will be a command line console?
[08:23] <x_> yup.
[08:23] <hot2trot> x_: thank you kindly
[08:24] <ubuntu> test
[08:26] <rotham> hey
[08:26] <rotham> ubuntu 12.04 ... icons in sidebar missing.. how can i reset it?
[08:27] <blackshirt> hey rotham
[08:27] <LOUISVENTOLI999> HI MY SKYPE : LOUISVENTOLI999
[08:28] <x_> LOUISVENTOLI999, why does anyone care what your skype is ?
[08:30] <aeon-ltd> wrong chan maybe?
[08:35] <Rad_Ahemn>  GAH! computer troubles! - I upgraded a little server to ubuntu 12.04 and rebooted it by ssh - now it isn't letting me back in. I live remotely to the server (at parents) I think I know the old ip and I can remotely access the router, but it was getting a static ip. I have tried turning it off and on again. any ideas/help?
[08:36] <x_> Rad_Ahemn, describe not letting you in?
[08:36] <Rad_Ahemn> the ssh times out
[08:37] <x_> Rad_Ahemn, if you forwarded the port in the router to a specific IP. but then the IP changes because it is DHCP then you will need to go to the 'clients' page of the router and find out what IP that box is on now and re-forward the port...
[08:40] <x_> Rad_Ahemn, following me?
[08:43] <sw0rdfish-> I can't mount my external usb hdd with read-write ability
[08:43] <Rad_Ahemn> x_, I do but there is nothing that I cannot identify in the DHCP list - but it does just look like wireless stuff, and the computer I want to access is wired
[08:43] <sw0rdfish-> I tried mount -o rw /dev/sdc1 /mnt/hdd3
[08:43] <sw0rdfish-> but still it only got mounted as read-only
[08:44] <x_> sw0rdfish-, mount -o remount,rw
[08:47] <ansel_> holq
[08:47] <ansel_> hola
[08:47] <x_> Rad_Ahemn, ahh I know what happened and you are screwed until you have phys access to the pc
[08:48] <x_> Rad_Ahemn, unless you get one of your parents to do it.
[08:49] <Rad_Ahemn> what needs to be done, as it's a headless server?
[08:51] <sw0rdfish-> x_: ummm you mean like mount -o remount,rw /mnt/hdd3 ?
[08:52] <almoxarife> doesnt anyone use dhcp reservation on routers???? too simple? not enough cli to it?
[08:54] <mike31> hi
[08:54] <mike31> is it possible to create a tar archive from redirected output?
[08:56] <x_> sw0rdfish-, yupp
[09:03] <elena-IK> I want to sync a local directory to a remote server. I want the data to be stored encrypted on the server. I thought about encfs inside sshfs and rsync. But the sshfs encfs combination gives me very poor performance, it uses less than a tenth of available bandwidth (with -o sshfs_sync) or behaves completely erratic (without -o sshfs_sync). Any alternatives?
[09:03] <grubnoob> hello everyone
[09:04] <grubnoob> i have a problem with my grub
[09:04] <grubnoob> i will explain it now:
[09:04]  * lkthomas had grub problem last night and reinstall the whole OS
[09:05] <heoyea> sudo update-grub
[09:05] <grubnoob> http://pastebin.com/BskgXkSz this is my fdiskµ
[09:05] <grubnoob> ubuntu is installed on sdc5 and the grub from ubuntu on sdb
[09:06] <grubnoob> (standard in installation)
[09:06] <grubnoob> arch linux / is installed on sda3
[09:06] <grubnoob> how can i  get my arch linux in to my grub
[09:07] <heoyea> grubnoob: which 1 is ur main OS with grub on it?
[09:07] <grubnoob> main os is ubuntu with grub installed on sdb
[09:07] <heoyea> grubnoob: boot into that then mount all ur drives including ur arch parition
[09:08] <heoyea> grubnoob: then do a sudo update-grub
[09:08] <grubnoob> I'M IN ALREADY
[09:08] <grubnoob> sry vfor capital
[09:09] <grubnoob> anyone a idea what i can do
[09:10] <almoxarife> grubnoob: in terminal# sudo update-grub > you should see all the possible OS the command finds
[09:11] <almoxarife> grubnoob: understand?
[09:11] <grubnoob> yes i think it works !
[09:11] <grubnoob> i will do a reboot now
[09:19] <NodeX> Howdee peoples, does anyone know the command to check the raid status on a new array?
[09:20] <NodeX> i/e how much more there is to go on the initialisation
[09:22] <heoyea> nope
[09:23] <chroot_> how to download use bitorrent download in ubuntu
[09:23] <Ascavasaion> Okay, so we have this new Unity... I initially changed to Classic desktop, and now back to Unity.  how do I get scrollbars back with the arrows top and bottom so I can scroll more accurately please?
[09:23] <chroot_> ?
[09:24] <Eagleman> I am trying to increase the resolution on my kvm machines, but the command is not working. any idea?  user@homeserver:/var/lib/libvirt/images$ sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -hda Windows8.img -m 512 -std-vga                        qemu-system-x86_64: -std-vga: invalid option
[09:26] <llutz> Eagleman: isn't it "-vga std"
[09:26] <Eagleman> Aha
[09:26] <Eagleman> now it startsup
[09:27] <Eagleman> ANy idea how i can achieve the same using virtual machine manager?
[09:29] <Eagleman> I also recieve an error when starting with -vga std  http://pastebin.com/MCL9XYiD
[09:31] <aeon-ltd> chroot_: get a bittorrent client then the .torrent then open it
[09:31] <heoyea> chroot_: open transmission
[09:32] <chroot_> but it didn't have any speed!
[09:32] <lucido> my wireless mouse that came with the logitech mk220 combo is too sensitive, I've already set the sensitivity to the minimum. What else can be done?
[09:34] <heoyea> chroot_: it takes a bit to get started
[09:35] <chroot_> oh, i understand now, thank you!
[09:35] <franmarc> ciao
[09:35] <franmarc> !list
[09:36] <heoyea> lucido: maybe this ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/135122/reduce-the-mouse-sensitivity
[09:38] <cheesecakes> so anyone know how do i force lightdm to ask for my password when i login
[09:39] <cheesecakes> right now i just get login and when i click on it it logs me in
[09:40] <heoyea> cheesecakes: u have auto login enable?
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> cheesecakes  system settings, user account, unlock, switch off automatic login
[09:41] <cheesecakes> automatic login is disabled
[09:41] <cheesecakes> i see lightdm but i dont get a field to enter my password
[09:43] <cheesecakes> this even happens with gdm
[09:44] <heoyea> cheesecakes: run cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:44] <aeon-ltd> cheesecakes: this may help http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[09:46] <cheesecakes> ok thanks
[09:46] <cheesecakes> i'll have a look
[09:46] <nitrohax> hacking war all night. And i still beat him
[09:51] <chakie> could someone go and give fi.archive.ubuntu.com a kick, it doesn't respond
[09:52] <aeon-ltd> chakie: same here
[09:54] <lucido> how can I add an init file to my system that would use xinit to set mouse sensitivity at boot time?
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> chakie  http://downorisitjustme.com/
[09:58] <dr_willis> you could put a script in the users.    .config/autorun lucido
[09:59] <dr_willis> that wouldent affect the login acreen however
[09:59] <chakie> MonkeyDust: well, it's not responding so that's as much as down
[09:59] <chakie>   Could not connect to fi.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (130.230.54.102). - connect (111: Connection refused)
[10:00] <nbubuntu> anyone here know where does temp .rar file save ?
[10:01] <x_> nbubuntu, maybe /tmp ?
[10:01] <dr_willis> nbubuntu: may depend on ghe archiver tool also
[10:01] <lucido> dr_willis, I1d like to have it system wide
[10:01] <nbubuntu> I extracted an rar file during the process , I cancel it , but it eats my space during the extraction
[10:02] <lucido> preferably with with a check if that particular mouse is presentű
[10:02] <dr_willis> lucido: lightdm has some config files for things to run. thise may work
[10:03] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : where does the archiver tool located ? under which directory ?
[10:04] <dr_willis> nbubuntu:  i use the cli tools. ive never noticed  any tmp filrs made when extracting. but i rarely use rar's
[10:05] <dr_willis> the unrar command pages may give details
[10:05] <dr_willis> man unrar
[10:05] <Eagleman> How can i get vga std to work with virt-manager?
[10:06] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : you try and delete a file to the trash somewhere 1GB .rar .Open the trash and click the 1GB rar it'll get extracted but after you close it still eats your 1GB somewhere save in some directory
[10:08] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever extracted archives while they are in the trash...
[10:08] <dr_willis> !trash
[10:09] <DrManhattan> Is there a good frontend I can use with Ubuntu to build a router? Not Firestarter, it lacks DMZ capability and I need that
[10:09] <dr_willis> i dont use the gui tools to extract archives either
[10:10] <dr_willis> they are all frontends to configure iptables i think DrManhattan . for the most controll you should learn iptables itself.
[10:11] <dr_willis> i cant recall any "dmz" feature in iptables. but i dont use it a lot.
[10:11] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : can'tfine any cache store location on it. http://www.edenwaith.com/support/untar/help/man/unrar.html
[10:11] <DrManhattan> dr_willis, im spoiled by dd-wrt. It's a shame that dd-wrt isn't a frontend package for ubuntu
[10:12] <DrManhattan> I would be the happiest person ever.
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> DrManhattan  could submit it in !brainstorm
[10:12] <DrManhattan> MonkeyDust, what is that?
[10:13] <dr_willis> http://www.pacificsimplicity.ca/blog/iptables-nat-dmz-example
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm
[10:15] <heoyea> dont think they ever really use stuff from brainstorm
[10:15] <nbubuntu> any help guys ? where does .rar cache save ?
[10:15] <dr_willis> i thing they have snagged a few ideas
[10:16] <heoyea> nbubuntu: maybe in /tmp ?
[10:17] <llutz> !info shorewall|drManhattan:  this maybe helps
[10:17] <llutz> !info shorewall|drManhattan
[10:17] <llutz> !info shorewall | drManhattan
[10:17] <llutz> finally...
[10:17] <DrManhattan> llutz, thank you very much
[10:17] <nbubuntu> heoyea : I checked , it's not there . Anyway to record those cmd or display cmd of extracion for rar file ?
[10:18] <dr_willis> unrar x foo.rar
[10:18] <dr_willis> i see no mention of unrar using any cache/tmp
[10:18] <heoyea> nbubuntu: maybe check ur history or which commands u ran
[10:18] <heoyea> of*
[10:19] <nbubuntu> heoyea : ? rar with command ?
[10:19] <DrManhattan> llutz, hmm, I'm looking for a web interface to iptables
[10:19] <DrManhattan> something like dd-wrt or firestarter
[10:19] <heoyea> nbubuntu: yea like where did u extract it to
[10:19] <llutz> DrManhattan: dd-wrt is much more than an interface to iptables.
[10:19] <DrManhattan> firestarter would work if it had DMZ capability, but it doesn't. I have a Vonage adapter
[10:20] <DrManhattan> llutz, yeah I know, I just want the interface sans the firmware
[10:20] <dr_willis> oops.. its      unrar  e  foo.rar
[10:20] <nbubuntu> heoyea : I just open it from trash and once I close the rar file the cache should be auto delete but it's not , it stay there and eats my 1GB
[10:21] <DrManhattan> llutz, dd-wrt's interface to an ubuntu-based router would rock, especially on something like a quad core box, so I could run a ton of services on it
[10:21] <yhusha> keep on getting error when trying to cd: cd ~/yhusha/RAM_booster_Ubuntu_12.04.sh
[10:21] <yhusha> bash: cd: /home/yhusha/yhusha/RAM_booster_Ubuntu_12.04.sh: No such file or directory
[10:21] <dr_willis> dmz is not just a simple thing.. from what im reading in the iptables guides
[10:21] <DrManhattan> dr_willis, it is on most routers
[10:21] <dr_willis> yhusha: your path is wrong
[10:21] <llutz> DrManhattan: i prefer luci (openwrt) :)
[10:21] <DrManhattan> punch in an ip or mac and apply :)
[10:21] <dr_willis> yhusha: remove the tilda
[10:22] <DrManhattan> llutz, so far so good on dd-wrt but im only running a WAP
[10:22] <dr_willis> yhusha:  /home/yourusername
[10:22] <nbubuntu> heoyea : seems like it's archive manager which I am using to unrar the file
[10:22] <dr_willis> or just the tilda
[10:22] <yhusha> oh yea its same thing
[10:22] <DrManhattan> I suppose I could run the WAP off the ubuntu box instead of a router. That would be pretty easy and I think I CAN do that with basic gui tools
[10:23] <yhusha> cd /home/yhusha/RAM_booster_Ubuntu_12.04.sh
[10:23] <yhusha> bash: cd: /home/yhusha/RAM_booster_Ubuntu_12.04.sh: Not a directory
[10:23] <nbubuntu> heoyea : how to search file size using ubuntu ?
[10:23] <yhusha> but all that info is correctly typed
[10:24] <heoyea> nbubuntu: using the find command
[10:24] <simons> where to get the source code of synaptic pacakage manager help me
[10:25] <dr_willis> yhusha:  its a file.... not a directory
[10:25] <yhusha> right
[10:25] <dr_willis> yhusha: what is rambooster supposed to do?
[10:25] <nbubuntu> heoyea : thanks :)
[10:26] <sweb> how can i increase java memory limit
[10:26] <dr_willis> sounds useless..
[10:26] <sweb> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
[10:26] <almoxarife> rambooster for xp?
[10:26] <almoxarife> or win95?
[10:26] <dr_willis> yhusha:  just 'cd' takes you to your home directory also
[10:29] <nbubuntu> heoyea : thanks , I found it ^_^ , it's under /home/ng/.cache/.fr-biPCXa/\media\67054BAE670C84DA\.Trash-1000\files\C%20C%20%20photo.rar .The folder name .fr-biPCXa  really   -_-" . Thanks guys
[10:29] <heoyea> nbubuntu: cool now u can watch the porn
[10:30] <nbubuntu> heoyea : photo , i rar my photo in it...
[10:30] <heoyea> nbubuntu: sure that too
[10:30] <dr_willis> dirty photos?
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> please...
[10:30] <nbubuntu> heoyea : yep , it's a  yearly photo .
[10:31] <nbubuntu> raw photo .... that isn't a lot
[10:31] <nbubuntu> =-="
[10:31] <dr_willis> what a weird name   C%20
[10:32] <dr_willis> thats a space isent it? ;)
[10:32] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : yep space , I rename wrongly that's why I delete it
[10:32] <dr_willis> c c  photo.rar
[10:32] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : Once I open and check it doesn't remove the cache
[10:33] <dr_willis> i dont see how rars are benifiting you much. ;-)
[10:34] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : C C = carbon copy
[10:35]  * dr_willis wonder who eles is old enough in here to remember what a carbon copy was. ;)
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> from the old days, when we used carbon papers in our typewriters
[10:35] <dr_willis> heh.
[10:36] <dr_willis> 'whats a typewriter?'
[10:36] <almoxarife> no, in the old days we used 'slates'
[10:36] <almoxarife> dr_willis: its a keyboard
[10:37] <dr_willis> i remember old computer books having to clarify that 0 was not the same as O.   :)
[10:37] <cheesecakes> i still use carbon paper
[10:37] <nbubuntu> old ? I though you guys will use it CC at email to more recipients
[10:37] <dr_willis> email - how quaint ;)
[10:38] <almoxarife> email?? too personal, i pastebin it, and send a link via twitter
[10:38] <cheesecakes> i like to encrypt stuff
[10:38] <dr_willis> reply all... yes. i  agree..
[10:38] <cheesecakes> but sadly encrypting is not necessary
[10:38] <almoxarife> require receipt was always fun
[10:39] <cheesecakes> for me
[10:39] <cheesecakes> i wish i was a spy just so i could use encryption in emails
[10:39] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: like putting secret messages in jpg's?
[10:40] <dr_willis> rot13 your irc sessions
[10:40] <cheesecakes> almoxarife: kind of
[10:40] <cheesecakes> more like using encrypted messages which no one else can read
[10:40] <nbubuntu> dr_willis : I mean the rename part C C  photo.rar , anyhow thanks a lot for the help :)
[10:43] <almoxarife> i do use 'roboform' for my internet passwords
[10:45] <heoyea> use keepassx
[10:46] <MeanEYE> Am having problems with nvidia drivers. After removing xorg-edgers ppa and its files, my Xorg can't find nvidia driver anymore.
[10:46] <heoyea> death then
[10:47] <MeanEYE> lol
[10:48] <heoyea> maybe try installing the old 1
[10:48] <MeanEYE> Did that. Tried reconfigure. Tried experimental ones.
[10:48] <MeanEYE> I just get an error that Xorg can't load nvidia driver because it's missing.
[10:49] <heoyea> MeanEYE: nvidias from the same PPA?
[10:49] <MeanEYE> Checking /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers shows no trace of nvidia.
[10:49] <MeanEYE> No, removed PPA, am trying to install ones in Ubuntu repo.
[10:51] <MeanEYE> So confusing. :/
[10:51] <reedos> apt-get install cheese ,but:E: 无法立即对 python2.7-minimal 进行配置。请查看 man 5 apt.conf 中的 APT::Immediate-Configure (2)
[10:53] <heoyea> MeanEYE: let me call up Mark Shuttleworth
[10:53] <bekks> reedos: Unfortunately, we cant read the non-english part of the error message.
[10:54] <MeanEYE> heoyea: right. :) He's not technical enough. Silly thing is everything worked up to a point and then decided to stop. :/
[10:54] <MeanEYE> Oh well reboot time.
[10:58] <Zhaofeng_Li> reedos: #ubuntu-zh perhaps?
[10:59] <Zhaofeng_Li> reedos: sorry, wrong one
[11:01] <lucido> The compiz process uses 30 percent plus of my cpu on my nvidia twin view setup with one of the displays rotated, is that normal?
[11:01] <heoyea> yes compiz uses alot
[11:02] <lucido> that's unwarranted
[11:02] <bekks> heoyea: For me, it doesnt.
[11:03] <bekks> lucido: You could check the CPU usage with an un-rotated display to compare.
[11:07] <Varazir> Hello, I have a problem that I need a script to run befor X and xbmc starts. I tried to add a script in rc.local ( was told here that it should be run before lightdm starts
[11:09] <bekks> Varazir: rc.local is the very last script run at boot. After every other init script.
[11:09] <Varazir> ok
[11:10] <CrypticSquared> in the folder for you runlevel there is a number telling the scripts in which order they should start
[11:10] <bekks> CrypticSquared: Thats outdated.
[11:10] <bekks> !upstart
[11:10] <CrypticSquared> hrm sorry then
[11:12] <Varazir> bekks: I have tried to read that. I found out that I add a starup condition like "start before lightdm" but will lightdm wait to start after my script is done ?
[11:13] <bekks> Just try it :)
[11:15] <Varazir> hehe could do that too :P
[11:15] <MeanEYE> Anyone has any idea how to fix this issue with nVidia drivers? At one point Xorg driver just dissapeared and I can't get it back. Reconfiguring nvidia-current installes kernel module, which works fine, but Xorg log file tells me there's no "nvidia" module available.
[11:16] <vitimiti> (·.·)/
[11:19] <heoyea> MeanEYE: it might still be using ur old xorg.conf
[11:20] <MeanEYE> Doubt it. Since I get (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[11:20] <KD0BPV> I have an ubuntu server with CLI access only. I forget what version of Ubuntu I installed. What's the command to check that again?
[11:21] <Guest29787> Is it possible to have Ubuntu make a sound when a command on the command line executed successfully with exit status 0?
[11:21] <MeanEYE> KD0BPV: lsb_release -a ?
[11:21] <KD0BPV> Thank you.
[11:22] <heoyea> Guest29787: yes
[11:22] <Guest29787> heoyea, how?
[11:22] <heoyea> donno how =D
[11:23] <heoyea> unless maybe u pipe the command thru something
[11:24] <MeanEYE> Guest29787: comman; play soundfile
[11:24] <MeanEYE> Guest29787: or you can use any other player
[11:24] <heoyea> is gotta execute without fail 1st
[11:24] <MeanEYE> In that case instead of ; use &&
[11:25] <Guest29787> MeanEYE, is there any sounds that come with Ubuntu?
[11:25] <heoyea> the donkey kong drums
[11:25] <MeanEYE> Guest29787: yes. Check /usr/share/sounds
[11:25] <wachpwnski> how do you run two commands and pipe the same variable into them?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> wachpwnski  better ask in #bash
[11:26] <MeanEYE> wachpwnski: pipe two commands or run them at the same time?
[11:26] <wachpwnski> MeanEYE: I just want to run md5sum and sha1sum on the same file
[11:26] <heoyea> might need to make a script
[11:27] <Guest29787> MeanEYE, for example like this? ls - l && play /usr/share/sounds/sool_sound.mp3 ?
[11:27] <MeanEYE> wachpwnski: just execute commands separately. Or as heoyea suggested make a script.
[11:27] <MeanEYE> Guest29787: Yes. I think you
[11:28] <MeanEYE> Guest29787: you'll need to install sox for play command to be available.
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> Guest29787  play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[11:28] <heoyea> maybe md5sum $1 && sha1sum $1
[11:28] <MeanEYE> MonkeyDust: he want's to play sound on successful command execute :D not all files in dir :P
[11:28] <Guest29787> MeanEYE, MonkeyDust thank you.
[11:29] <MeanEYE> Damn it. Am not solving my issue :D need to stop helping and concentrate.
[11:29] <maylow> hello
[11:30] <maylow> i've heard that there is a way to virtualize ubuntu n ubuntu in a very lightweight form
[11:30] <maylow> using the fact that the kernels are the same
[11:30] <maylow> is it possible to do this with kvm?
[11:31] <maylow> anyone? any ideas/
[11:31] <maylow> anyone? any ideas?
[11:31] <heoyea> MeanEYE: purge nvidia-current, install linux-headers-generic then reinstall the nvidia drivers
[11:32] <heoyea> maylow: whats kvm do again?
[11:32] <maylow> heoyea: ubuntu guests on ubuntu host
[11:32] <maylow> heoyea: same versions of ubuntu
[11:33] <heoyea> maylow: is that like virtualbox?
[11:33] <maylow> heoyea: the idea is to setup with open indiana's zones
[11:33] <maylow> heoyea: yes, but it's native to linux
[11:34] <irocksu> hi
[11:34] <heoyea> maylow: so u want multiple x sessions?
[11:34] <MeanEYE> heoyea: I'll try. Did by any chance GT610 stopped being supported by 304.x?
[11:34] <irocksu> i have a problem with dash. when i press the p key I get B. so instead of skype I get skyBe.
[11:34] <maylow> heoyea: no :) multiple virtual machines; no x at all
[11:34] <maylow> heoyea: it's a server
[11:35] <irocksu> i have a more detailed description with a picture here http://askubuntu.com/questions/226750/pressing-p-in-dash-results-in-weird-b
[11:35] <MeanEYE> heoyea: Ah, this doesn't help. Already have latest headers :/ darn it.
[11:35] <Yul> bonjour
[11:36] <irocksu> does anyone know what causes this problem?
[11:37] <Eagleman> How can i get vga std to work with virt-manager?
[11:37] <manners> hiya everyone
[11:37] <manners> i seem to be having some real problems sharing files from a usb drive that ws owned by windows
[11:37] <maylow> does anyone know an ubuntu alternative of open indiana's zones?
[11:38] <manners> i cant set any permissions or sharing rights
[11:39] <irocksu> manners: fat32 does not have acl afaik
[11:39] <manners> its not fat32
[11:39] <manners> its ntfs
[11:39] <irocksu> manners: even worse for linux -.-
[11:40] <heoyea> manners: maybe try chmod 777 on the usb drive
[11:40] <manners> so im using ntfs-3g and i can see teh drive myself from the machine
[11:41] <heoyea> manners: is it mounted?
[11:41] <manners> hmm yes but says fuseblk
[11:42] <heoyea> ?
[11:43] <manners> was expecting the type to be ntfs
[11:43] <heoyea> so u can see the drive but cant go into it?
[11:43] <manners>  says""/dev/sdb1 on /media/Elements type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[11:44] <irocksu> manners how did you mount it?
[11:45] <bekks> maylow: There is no alternative, since the concept of zones is not available on non-Solaris.
[11:45] <bekks> maylow: A different conceptis LXC.
[11:45] <maylow> bekks: freebsd has jails :)
[11:45] <manners> i didnt i assume it just mounted automatically
[11:45] <bekks> maylow: Which is a totally different concept compared with zones.
[11:46] <irocksu> manners: well try to mount it manually with -t ntfs
[11:46] <manners> anyways seems i had an old version of samba and now im getting errors getting the latest one
[11:46] <manners> i will sort this out then come back if im still having issues
[11:46] <maylow> bekks: yes, but still - lightweight virtualization alternative
[11:46] <bekks> maylow: zones and jails have nothing to do with virtualization at all.
[11:47] <maylow> bekks: *virtualization alternative
[11:47] <bekks> maylow: Since you cant use another architecture, thats no alternative at all.
[11:48] <maylow> bekks: if you say so
[11:48] <maylow> bekks: it's a matter of semantics and there's no point of arguing about it
[11:48] <maylow> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lxc.html
[12:00] <guang_> what is the usage of boot sector in usb when i insert usb on my computer?i tried to modify the asm code,finally it work well.why?
[12:04] <sprezzatura> if NETWORKING_IPV6=no in /etc/sysconfig/network, but i see a 'inet6 addr' in ifconfig , then whats wrong. i want to check if ipv6 is actually present and enabled or not in my box
[12:05] <lucido> bash: ./qt-linux-opensource-5.0.0-rc1-x86_64-offline.run: cannot execute binary file
[12:05] <lucido> whats that?
[12:07] <maylow> does anyone have some experience with kvm vs lxc used for a web server?
[12:07] <bekks> lucido: A file thats not executable. Grant execution permissions to that file before.
[12:07] <lucido> bekks, I did
[12:07] <bekks> maylow: I bet someone does. But whats your actual question?
[12:08] <bekks> lucido: Show us the ls -lha ./qt-linux-opensource-5.0.0-rc1-x86_64-offline.run output please
[12:08] <maylow> bekks: which one to choose. pros and cons. base for decision. things like that :)
[12:09] <bekks> maylow: So its nothing about support then :) In that case, #ubuntu-offtopic should be a better place for asking :)
[12:09] <lucido> bekks, problem is that I'm running 32bit ubuntu
[12:10] <lucido> How can I convert to 64bit?
[12:10] <bekks> lucido: You cant.
[12:12] <anon> Is there an offtopic channel for Freenode where one can talk about anything?
[12:15] <Guest76601> Is there an offtopic channel for Freenode where one can talk about anything?
[12:15] <jrib> Guest76601: #defocus
[12:15] <DJones> Guest76601: Have you asked in #freenode ? Thats the best place to ask
[12:16] <Guest76601> Thx
[12:20] <manners> ok iv now realised when iinstall ntfs-3g it requires samba 4 which is not installing
[12:22] <PatrickDickey> what's the error when you try to install samba4?
[12:24] <myhero> how to look irc chat history?
[12:25] <SolarisBoy> you can log it in your client myhero or you can scrollback (pgup) or use commands like /lastlog
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> myhero  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[12:26] <myhero> how to print or save a irc chat session?
[12:27] <bazhang> !1984 | myhero
[12:27] <myhero> hmm...print/save?
[12:28] <sprezzatura> sorry..seemed to have logged  off. reposting : if NETWORKING_IPV6=no in /etc/sysconfig/network, but i see a 'inet6 addr' in ifconfig , then whats wrong. i want to check if ipv6 is actually present and enabled or not in my box
[12:30] <iliv> is there a livecd or something to checkout Achievements?
[12:30] <SolarisBoy> sprezzatura: try to toggle the sysctl key to off
[12:31] <SolarisBoy> sprezzatura: eg net.ipv6.conf.eth0.disable_ipv6
[12:31] <sprezzatura> SolarisBoy: isnt there 'one' check which basically tells me ipv6 is present or nto?
[12:31] <manners> its saying i need to remove teh smb.conf file and let provision recreate it
[12:31] <sprezzatura> SolarisBoy: i do not want to change anything as of now. i just want to know whether ipv6 is configured or not
[12:33] <Eagleman> I am getting the following error with: PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedPuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedPuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedPuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedCould not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting        kvm -vga std -hda /var/lib/libvirt/images/Windows8.img -boot c
[12:33] <Eagleman> -m 2048
[12:33] <Eagleman> ANy idea on how to fix it?
[12:34] <SolarisBoy> sprezzatura: check the value of that key and check to see if you are loading the net-pf-10 module i guess then
[12:34] <sprezzatura> SolarisBoy: There is something odd about the IPV6INIT=no and seeing an IPV6 address though
[12:36] <rgrig> Any idea why would the terminal window resize (to the default size) whenever I switch back-and-forth viewports?
[12:39] <sprezzatura> SolarisBoy: this is even more interesting :   /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/bond1/disable_ipv6 has 0
[12:40] <wdp> hey. I asked yesterday already but got no response. I have three intel nics and would like them to have the names eth0, eth1, eth2.Instead they're named em0, eth1 and p260p1. any idea how I can change that?
[12:44] <llutz> wdp:edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  and add rules to set the correct names
[12:44] <sprezzatura> SolarisBoy: whats  a loopback adapter?
[12:45] <wdp> llutz, there's only one entry in there, do i have to copy that one?
[12:45] <kumar> official ubuntu support is good
[12:45] <spexi> Hi! Just restarted Ubuntu Server 12.04 after updates, that needed to restart the system. Those updates came about a week ago. Now pinging google says "unknown host" and when trying to start irssi, connecting to networks says "Temporary failure in name resolution". Any ideas?
[12:46] <llutz> wdp: take it as an expample line, add 2 more rules, change MAC and NAME
[12:46] <bekks> spexi: Check your DNS server setting.
[12:46] <spexi> Anything I could try?
[12:46] <llutz> s/MAC/ATTR{address}/
[12:46] <wdp> llutz, right. The header states that one should only change the value of the NAME= key - Will ubuntu modify those rules on update?
[12:47] <spexi> bekks: where I need to check something? Like in which file?
[12:47] <bekks> spexi: /etc/resolv.conf
[12:47] <llutz> wdp idk, but you can cirumvent that with creating a new file, name starting with a hnumber >70
[12:47] <spexi> It contains: # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) | #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[12:47] <llutz> number*
[12:48] <wdp> llutz, thanks a lot. Trying.
[12:48] <spexi> Is there some other file to check? If I can't edit that by hand
[12:52] <keyser_soze> i've a question, guys
[12:52] <keyser_soze> i keep getting E:broken packages error, when i try installing
[12:52] <keyser_soze> i tried apt-get update as well, it doesnt work
[12:52] <spexi> other website says that I should edit file /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head, but it has the same information that resolv.conf. that I shouldn't edit by hand
[12:53] <spexi> How could I get the networking to work?
[12:53] <bekks> spexi: Do you have a valid IP address=
[12:53] <llutz> spexi:  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head is the file to edit, the warning shown in this file is just copied to /etc/resolv.conf and doesn't really apply to "head"
[12:53] <jrib> keyser_soze: you have no idea why?  No unofficial repositories (including PPAs)?  No packages outside the repositories?
[12:54] <Danic> hi
[12:54] <spexi> bekks: ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418807/
[12:54] <spexi> so yeah, i have static ip 10.0.0.7
[12:55] <keyser_soze> jrib: no, no unofficial repos
[12:55] <jrib> keyser_soze: pastebin full error message
[12:55] <Danic> whenever i search for something using "Dash Home" i get a lot of advertise and stuff. how can i remove that?
[12:55] <spexi> llutz: I have nothing in file "base", and the file original contains "nameserver 10.0.0.2" which is correct
[12:55] <spexi> but should that be in file head?
[12:55] <jrib> !adlens | Danic
[12:56] <llutz> spexi: wherever you want, those 3 files (head, base, tail) will just be concatenated into /etc/resolv.conf.
[12:57] <sprezzatura> SolarisBoy: there?
[12:57] <llutz> spexi: so if you want your nameserver be the first, add it to head. if it is to be the last one, edit "tail"
[12:57] <spexi> llutz: there is base, head and original, and original contains the nameserver section
[12:57] <spexi> okay
[12:58] <Danic> ubottu, funny i cant remove it in the software center. but apt-get worked good. thx
[12:59] <spexi> llutz: thanks, that worked! I moved the nameserver line to file "head"
[12:59] <fragmachine> Is there a way to build an panel applet with Ruby?
[12:59] <fragmachine> I only stuff for python, C etc
[13:00] <Danic> Man, ubuntu became wierd since unity. Why don't I find vim-gnome in the software center? I assumed its just a extreme nice GUI for apt-get
[13:01] <kumar> official ubuntu is official
[13:03] <aguitel> i have 2 pcs ,can i share internet using Switch ?
[13:03] <neltzig> Hello! :)
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> aguitel   "It could be connected directly with a single computer via a crossover cable or switch," https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[13:04] <neltzig> anybody here care for a little chitchat?
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> neltzig  wrong channel
[13:05] <sprezzatura> SolarisBoy: there?
[13:11] <manners> right guys i really hope someone can help and tell me what im doing wrong
[13:11] <bekks> manners: just ask...
[13:11] <inop2603> Howdy! :DDD
[13:11] <manners> iv got a usb drive shared via ubuntu and i can see and browse it from my windows machine however i cant edit any files or open them
[13:13] <manners> drive mount info looks like this "/dev/sdb1 on /media/Elements type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)"
[13:14] <PatrickDickey> manners, try this in a terminal. ls -l /media Tell me what the permissions are for the drive
[13:14] <manners> but please be easy with me as im not a linux user in the slightest just know its alot less hungry than window
[13:14] <manners> s
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> manners  time to switch to linux
[13:14] <manners> the drive isnt listed there
[13:15] <NoNameProduct> hello - I have got a question. My question is: Is there a Source Code Distribution available for the actual ubuntu distribution ?
[13:15] <manners> it was auto mounted
[13:15] <PatrickDickey> manners: Here's the thing (I'm guessing). /media is owned by root. You probably don't have the proper permissions for any other user to edit files.
[13:15] <bekks> NoNameProduct: No.
[13:15] <PatrickDickey> manners: type mount and look to see if it shows up.
[13:15] <manners> ok and how can i change it
[13:15] <bekks> NoNameProduct: But you can recomplie everything you've installed.
[13:15] <manners> when mounts is typed the above shows up
 drive mount info looks like this "/dev/sdb1 on /media/Elements type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)"
[13:16] <PatrickDickey> ok in your terminal, type cd /media
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> NoNameProduct  use apt-get source to get the source of any package
[13:17] <manners> drwx------ 1 manners manners 28672 Dec  8 12:39 Elements
[13:17] <PatrickDickey> manners: Do you have any files on the USB that need to be executed?
[13:17] <bekks> manners: Pastebin the entire output of "mount" and "sudo fdisk -l" please.
[13:17] <NoNameProduct> bekks: That is not what I want to do because I am interested in software development generally and I want source code of already developed software, 'cause reading software sources is helpful for me while learning the one or the other programming language
[13:18] <bekks> NoNameProduct: Then just use apt-get source
[13:18] <manners> http://pastebin.com/ic2ghXKA <<< mount
[13:19] <manners> http://pastebin.com/VLRU79Yd <<< the fdisk is on the bottom
[13:20] <bekks> manners: And the detailed problem now is...?
[13:20] <PatrickDickey> manners you'll probably need to chmod the directory. For being able to read/write, it's something like this: sudo chmod -R 766 Elements  If you have any .exe programs on the drive, then it's sudo chmod -R 777 Elements  You have to do this from inside of the /media directory (at least how I have the commands listed).
[13:21] <bekks> PatrickDickey: Which will not work on NTFS.
[13:21] <bekks> So not suggest things like that please, especially with unwanted 777 permissions.
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> chmod 755 should do
[13:23] <Ben64> chmod still won't do anything for ntfs
[13:24] <bekks> And we still dont know about the actual problem.
[13:24] <sachin__> hello all can anybody help me installing lava data card on ubuntu 12.04  i have ubuntu specific  usb driver files that came with data card flash storage
[13:26] <guang_> i have mounted the dvd,but after running "sudo fdisk -l",the dvd system is not listed.
[13:26] <bekks> guang_: A dvd is never shown using fdisk -l
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> guang_  what's on the dvd?
[13:26] <guang_> some file on it
[13:27] <guang_> bekks:what command can be used for it?
[13:27] <bekks> guang_: For doing what?
[13:27] <guang_> bekks:for looking up its file system
[13:27] <bekks> guang_: You have to mount it.
[13:28] <guang_> bekks:i have mounted it
[13:28] <Ben64> then try "mount"
[13:28] <bekks> guang_: Then use ls
[13:28] <guang_> bekks:i can access the file in it
[13:28] <bekks> guang_: Then why do you try to use fdisk?
[13:29] <Kr4ut> hoi
[13:29] <guang_> bekks:fdisk -l can list the file system mounted on my computer.
[13:29] <Ben64> guang_: use "mount"
[13:30] <guang_> got it.
[13:30] <bekks> guang_: Which is wrong. fdisk cant list filesystems at all. It lists partitions, no matter wether they are mounted ot not.
[13:30] <NoNameProduct> And now I have gut a suggestion. Well ... why doesn't Canonical realize distributing a "Unubuntu" ( 'Unity Ubuntu' - I don't actually know a better Distribution Name ), and additionally produce something like "Gubuntu" ( Gnome Ubuntu ) ? I am pretty sure that I am not the only one worldwide who doesn't even like the Unity Desktop ...
[13:31] <Ben64> NoNameProduct: it's easily removed, but it is the default Ubuntu desktop now
[13:31] <guang_> bekks:if i umount the usb,i can not see the usb partitions.
[13:32] <guang_> bekks:by using "fdisk -l"
[13:32] <PatrickDickey> guang_: If you're looking for the filesystem on the DVD, it's most likely UDF. That's typically what is used with CD and DVD.
[13:32] <bekks> guang_: fdisk -l doesnt even know whats "mounted" or not.
[13:33] <Ben64> shouldn't be using fdisk to check what filesystem is mounted anyway
[13:33] <bekks> Ben64: No.
[13:33] <bekks> Ben64: fdisk -l doesnt care about filesystems, it cares about blockdevices and partitions only.
[13:34] <Ben64> I know...
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> guang_  try sudo blkid
[13:35] <jonas-k> how  completely  remove mysql 5.5 ?  i  read alot of forum try a lot of combinations but still something from mysql  is on a system . Then i try to install  i got some error msg
[13:36] <guang_> i have know its type is iso9660 by using command "mount"
[13:36] <bekks> jonas-k: "something" and "some" are pretty unspecific. Whhat did you do exactly, and whats the exact error message?
[13:37] <PatrickDickey> guang_: http://www.isobuster.com/help/file_systems
[13:38] <bjorn_> hello
[13:39] <PatrickDickey> hello bjorn_
[13:39] <jrib> jonas-k: why do you want to remove it?
[13:39] <bjorn_> when i try to install ubuntu on some computer i have
[13:39] <Eagleman> I am getting the following error with: PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedPuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedPuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedPuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedCould not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting        kvm -vga std -hda /var/lib/libvirt/images/Windows8.img -boot c
[13:39] <Eagleman> -m 2048
[13:39] <bjorn_> i start it with the usb drive but the screen is stuck at purple and at the bottom theres a picture of a keyboard = a person
[13:40] <bjorn_> nevermind
[13:40] <bjorn_> it was just freezing up
[13:41] <MeanEYE> heoyea: nothing like a fresh install :D
[13:41] <wdp> llutz, thanks, that worked. I'm just curious if it could be a problem that I named them differently from what the kernel reported. But actually it seems to work. The kernel reports the first onboard nic as eth0, the pcie nic as eth1 and the second onboard nic as eth2. The weird naming was because there was only one udev rule for eth1. I added rules so that the pcie nic is eth0, and the two onboard nics are eth1 and eth2 (which makes sense in our setup)
[13:41] <wdp> llutz, so, thanks again .)
[13:43] <llutz> wdp: that should not have any sideeffect
[13:43] <wdp> alright, thanks
[13:51] <Guest87894> ciao
[13:51] <Guest87894> !list
[13:51] <Ben^> Hi Guys, Seems I was changing between GTK+ themes and my taskbar and top bar with notificaton panel has crashed out. Im not on unity yet. What process can I kick to get em back?
[13:51] <Varazir> How can I use this in a IF state "initctl status lightdm" I tried echo $? both started and stop showed the same
[13:51] <read> I installed Ubuntu like 4 times on my computer and each time for some reason Ubuntu freezes after login. Is there anything I can do to prevent my computer from freezing everytime I login?
[13:53] <llutz> Varazir: initctl status lightdm >/dev/null 2>&1 || echo "not running"
[13:55] <llutz> Varazir: sry, it has an option for this:          initctl --quiet status lightdm || echo "not running"
[13:55] <Varazir> llutz: I don't get how dose that tell me the diffrens if the job is running or not ?
[13:55] <guang_> after i run command "sudo dd if=dev/sr0 of=dvd bs=10 count=512",i run command "hexdump -C dvd",find the file dvd is filled with "0".
[13:56] <guang_> /dev/sr0 is my dvd.
[13:56] <guang_> i can access files in it.
[13:56] <llutz> Varazir:  "not output" = running
[13:57] <guang_> why the dvd file is fully filled with "0"
[13:57] <Varazir> llutz: should I see anything when I running just in a promt ?
[13:59] <read> I installed Ubuntu like 4 times on my computer and each time for some reason Ubuntu freezes after login. Is there anything I can do to prevent my computer from freezing everytime I login?
[13:59] <Varazir> llutz: if (initctl --quiet status lightdm || echo "not running");  then echo "YES" ; else echo "NO"; fi
[14:00] <Varazir> tried both on a job that I know is not running and lightdm that's running both echo YES
[14:00] <theadmin> Varazir: Well that obviously returns yes -- the "echo 'not running'" command has no reason to fail, so your if-condition is always true
[14:01] <llutz> Varazir:  if (initctl --quiet status lightdm );  then echo "YES" ; else echo "NO"; fi
[14:01] <Varazir> theadmin: I thought of that removed  || echo "not running" and run it again with the same result
[14:02] <theadmin> That returns "yes" here even though I don't have lightdm installed :/
[14:02] <Varazir> llutz: that gives me YES on both running and stoped jobs
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:03] <llutz> Varazir:  if (initctl status lightdm |grep running);  then echo "YES" ; else echo "NO"; fi
[14:03] <Varazir> I guess I have to do it the dirty way to use awk and print second value to a varible and run a IF statement on that
[14:03] <theadmin> I honestly don't even. Can't you just "pgrep lightdm"? Doesn't really correspond to the service running, but will do with the process...
[14:03] <Varazir> llutz: that would work too
[14:04] <llutz> theadmin: i also would go for: if ( pgrep lightdm >/dev/null );  then foo
[14:04] <Varazir> ok
[14:05] <Cliff``> hi everyone
[14:05] <llutz> pgrep needs a -q option...
[14:06] <antoks> rm needs an -i,--inode option...
[14:07] <llutz> antoks: wrapper, find . -inum ... -exec rm {}
[14:08] <antoks> llutz: I know how to do it, I just think rm should have the option
[14:08] <antoks> =)
[14:09] <llutz> antoks: lets write some feature requests...
[14:09] <antoks> llutz: too lazy =(
[14:10] <antoks> maybe I should download binutils or whatever the project is called, and try to implement it =)
[14:10] <read> I installed Ubuntu like 4 times on my computer and each time for some reason Ubuntu freezes after login. Is there anything I can do to prevent my computer from freezing everytime I login?
[14:10] <antoks> could be an insteresting execise
[14:10] <antoks> read: sounds like a graphics issue maybe?
[14:10] <antoks> did changing to a virtual terminal work?
[14:11] <k1l_> read: do you have a hybrid card installed? like nvidia optimus etc?
[14:11] <k1l_> read: and if so, did you install the right bumblebee driver for it?
[14:11] <read> antoks: what would you reccommend? I'm reading online and I tried many solutions but now I can't even get to a terminal. I read that the problme is nouvea
[14:12] <antoks> read: I think k1l_ probably is onto something if you have got multiple gpu's
[14:12] <k1l_> read: there are a billion possible problems. we need to narrow it down on the real problem
[14:13] <k1l_> read: so which video card is installed and is it a hybrid one?
[14:13] <antoks> read: you say you manage to install, do you install with a live cd? if so, using the normal live cd?
[14:13] <read> k1l: you were helping me last time. You helped me remove nvidia because before the problme was that I booted straight into a terminal. After you helped me that stopped and now I boot into ubuntu but the computer freezes. I can barely see the icons now
[14:14] <read> I used a USB to install ubuntu antoks
[14:15] <AtoXx> ciao
[14:16] <read> k1l: when I originally installed the system it would freeze after maybe 10 minutes of being on ubuntu. Then I decided to install nvidia-current or nvidia-common because I read that to be a solution to the problem. After I did the computer froze. Then the next time I logged back intot he computer I booted into a terminal everytime. ONce you helped me remove it then I booted back into ubuntu but now it freezes again just like before
[14:17] <wildwind> read: try login via Ctrl+Alt+F1 and read logs
[14:17] <k1l_> read: last time it sounded as it was ok before the nvidia-installation
[14:17] <Eagleman> I am getting the following error with: PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedPuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedPuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedPuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedCould not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting        kvm -vga std -hda /var/lib/libvirt/images/Windows8.img -boot c
[14:17] <Eagleman> -m 2048
[14:18] <worm> Eagleman: Possibly paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com can make those stuff much easier to read.
[14:18] <read> k1l: sorry for not explaining myself and letting you know that was the reason I installed nvidia
[14:19] <k1l_> read: so first we need to find which card is in your laptop/pc exactly
[14:19] <k1l_> read: make a "lspci | pastebinit" on that machine, please
[14:19] <read> wildwind: so when I go to the grub screen I should hit ctrl+alt+f1
[14:19] <k1l_> read: no hit that combo when the pc freezes
[14:20] <k1l_> or on the login screen
[14:20] <read> wildwind: or should I do that after I am at the login screen. Because after the login in screen is where my problem begins
[14:20] <wildwind> read: no, when you get to the login screen
[14:21] <read> k1l: so should I do this while i'm on ubuntu?
[14:21] <escott_> Eagleman, why is putty talking about kvm?
[14:21] <read> wildwind: ok, I'll do that i just need to login with my other computer so i can get helped by you at the same time
[14:21] <k1l_> read: we need this information from that machine, that is not correctly booting ubuntu
[14:22] <Eagleman> Hello i am trying to get virt-manager to work with vga std, i tried the following: http://jan.varho.org/?p=94  However if i execute qemu-kvm in the CLI i get the following error dPuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attemptedCould not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting
[14:22] <read> k1l: i'll try to see if I can do it
[14:24] <read1> k1l and wildwind: I am read, i'm just changing computers now
[14:25] <Ascavasaion> Is the fingerprint reader on a laptop concealed in the touchpad?  Or is it a total separate feature?  If they are one and the same, howcome Ubuntu or Windows do not detect them?
[14:25] <read1> wildwind: What was the command again?
[14:25] <mens> Is possible to open HTTP stream in XBMC Eden?
[14:25] <mens> I tried to do what I found on the forums
[14:25] <mens> I edited the file playercorefactory.xml
[14:25] <mens> < rule name =  http / hdhomerun /myth /rtmp / mms / udp  protocols =  http | hdhomerun | myth | cmyth | rtmp | mms | mmsh | udp  player =  DVDPlayer    /  >
[14:25] <mens> I added HTTP where it was written that should be added.
[14:25] <FloodBot1> mens: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:25] <mens> But this maneuver did not helped
[14:26] <mens> The problem occurs when I open the *.m3u file
[14:26] <wildwind> read: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> mens  there's also #xbmc   450+ people there
[14:26] <paridedina> list
[14:27] <paridedina> o
[14:27] <read1> wildwind: that command doesn't do anything. but ctrl+alt+t does
[14:27] <bekks> paridedina: Why do you think this might be a file sharing channel?
[14:27] <read1> btw, for some wear reason this computer just booted without freezing just now :)
[14:28] <wildwind> read1: well did you login into desktop?
 For a month trying to solve the problem.
 I wrote XBMC channel
[14:28] <read1> k1l: what command you wnated me to do?
[14:28] <k1l_> read: make a "lspci | pastebinit" on that machine, please
[14:28] <BluesKaj> bekks, because some italian computer magazine that hates linux says so
[14:28] <read1> wildwind: yes, i'm login and it looks like the computer is working for now
[14:29] <bekks> BluesKaj: I didnt know italians believe in what magazines do print :P
[14:29] <read1> wildwind: I don't know if it has to do with that fact that I was working on my mac
[14:29] <wildwind> maybe it's because we're all watching it :)
[14:30] <read1> k1l: the website is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418967/
[14:31] <wildwind> read1: you can open system logs viewer and save syslog somewhere for later analysis, if problem returns
[14:31] <read1> wildwind: lol
[14:31] <k1l_> read1: what is this? which laptop?
[14:31] <read1> k1l: i have a macbook pro if that is what your asking
[14:31] <escott_> Eagleman, why would putty care what resolution the kvm instance had
[14:31] <read1> k1l: but the report is from my ubuntu like you asked
[14:32] <read1> wildiwnd: how can I open system logs viewer?
[14:32] <read1> wildwind: or save it?
[14:32] <k1l_> read1: i need that command done on the machine which got the problem.
[14:32] <read1> k1l: yes, it is from that computer. is my ubuntu 12.10
[14:33] <k1l_> so the laptop with the problem is the macbook?
[14:33] <wildwind> read1: try typing it in dash
[14:33] <read1> k1l: yes, i am using a macbook pro and I installed ubuntu 12.10 desktop on it
[14:33] <Eagleman> escott_ i have no idea, i enabled x11 forwarding and it works perfectl;y with virt-manager
[14:34] <k1l_> read1: ok. this is an important information. apple macbooks used to need a special ubuntu version to run. but i dont know if this is still true these days
[14:34] <read1> wildwind: what you mean by try typing it in dash? are you asking me to type open system-log-viewer
[14:34] <escott_> Eagleman, ok. are you trying to do x forwarding with putty under windows? if so do you have xming or some other x server installed and running
[14:35] <Eagleman> escott_ like i said if i execute virt-manager in puty xming will show me the window
[14:35] <read1> k1l: i did read that this was a common problem on macbook pro of a certain year but I don't even know of what year my mac is.
[14:36] <read1> k1l: do you think that the nveou has anything to do with my computer freezing?
[14:36] <k1l_> read1: ok. but that should be the first informations to collect. but i cant help since i dont know much about the macbooks
[14:36] <escott_> Eagleman, i dont understand what you are doing and when you are getting error messages. why don't you paste.ubuntu.com the entire session that errors so i can figure out what you are trying to do
[14:36] <read1> k1l: ok, so you want me to find out if macbooks have difficulty having ubuntu installed?
[14:37] <k1l_> read1: could be. but you should look out which macbook type you have and then look out for how-tos and experiences with that
[14:38] <read1> k1l: ok, so then you concluding that the problem might be with my computer not the system log or the lspci right?
[14:39] <wildwind> read1: typing "system log" is enough to find it
[14:39] <k1l_> read1: the problem is with your hardware. the system log and lspci were only commands to see if there is some information about what is wrong
[14:40] <rocky> what's the "best" gmail indicator app for ubuntu/unity now with 12.10 ?
[14:41] <Eagleman> escott_:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418981/
[14:41] <read1> k1l: do you want to see my system log before I try that or you just reccommend that I try to find the how to on mac?
[14:42] <escott_> Eagleman, that doesnt include any error messages.
[14:42] <k1l_> read1: i dont have that much time now. so i couldnt assist you one that. but if you ask here maybe someone will help
[14:42] <Eagleman> There is no error message, it just wont boot with adjustable resolution
[14:43] <escott_> Eagleman, ok so this has nothing to do with putty. the problem is that you cannot give windows a different resolution with the -vga argument
[14:43] <escott_> Eagleman, you might ask in #kvm
[14:44] <read1> k1l: thanks though,
[14:44] <Eagleman> escott_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1418987/
[14:45] <Ahmed_> if i have all /usr and /home and /var and / and /boot on same filesystem howa to spilt them on another filesystem ????
[14:45] <escott_> !home | Ahmed_
[14:45] <escott_> Ahmed_, moving /usr would be unsupported
[14:46] <read1> k1l: btw this guy has my same mac and his works. http://askubuntu.com/questions/210532/which-ubuntu-12-10-on-mac
[14:46] <escott_> Ahmed_, var and boot would be much like home, you will have to rerun grub-install after moving boot
[14:47] <read1> wildwind: my that command system log doesn't work
[14:47] <read1> wildwind: no command 'system' found
[14:49] <wildwind> are you typing it in dash?
[14:49] <Catbuntu> Hi
[14:49] <wildwind> try gnome-system-log
[14:49] <Bitcho> hi ctm
[14:50] <Catbuntu> Radeon HD Mobility 3650: Has Ubuntu good support for it?
[14:50] <Catbuntu> I'm actually trying to install Linux Mint on my mum's computer, and I'd like to know if there's a decent driver for Cinnamon.
[14:51] <theadmin> Catbuntu: There's no support for Mint here.
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> !mint
[14:52] <Catbuntu> Yes, I know.
[14:52] <Catbuntu> Well, then for Ubuntu.
[14:52] <Catbuntu> The question is related to Ubuntu, not to Mint :P
[14:52] <Catbuntu> Ubuntu has a driver for 3xxx series or is there a legacy driver on any PPA?
[14:53] <nongoogle> <3 also how do i get my desktop back
[14:54] <t432> the following lib is automatically in classpath right? /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.7.0-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/ext/javaee.jar
[14:54] <t432> I did'nt install it, it came with the setup
[14:55] <t432> where would place the classpath info?
[14:57] <lucido> whats a good HW info application, I'm looking into possible upgrades
[14:58] <Moesh> >>
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> lucido  hardinfo
[15:00] <Moesh> check.
[15:00] <Moesh> Whew.
[15:00] <Moesh> Hey folks. I'm installing Ubuntu on my desktop and I'm pretty terrified. Any advice for first-time users?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> Moesh  use a live session to get used to it ('try ubuntu')
[15:01] <prawnsalad> hey guys. DNS resolution is failing for me as it doesnt appear to be picking up the DNS addresses in the interface config
[15:02] <Moesh> Mm, I've been playing around with it while its on my USB key for awhile.
[15:02] <prawnsalad> but when using dig to contact the dns addresses directly, that works
[15:03] <wildwind> prawnsalad: release?
[15:03] <artesis123> Test
[15:03] <prawnsalad> wildc4rd: precise
[15:04] <prawnsalad> server version, i should mention
[15:04] <issue> hey who know russian help me ples
[15:04] <issue> pleas
[15:04] <escott_> prawnsalad, what is the source when you dig it
[15:05] <theadmin> !ru | issue
 ребят помогите у меня не видет карт ридер
[15:05] <issue> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[15:05] <llutz> prawnsalad:  pastebin output of "grep nameservers /etc/network/interfaces" and "apt-cache policy resolvconf|grep -i insta" please
[15:05] <prawnsalad> escott_: dig replies with "connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
[15:06] <llutz> prawnsalad: well, and your /etc/resolv.conf   of course
[15:06] <escott_> prawnsalad, i thought you said dig was working?
[15:07] <prawnsalad> llutz: doing now
[15:07] <prawnsalad> escott_: sorrym thought you meant without specifying an address. source im using is 87.117.198.200
[15:08] <danilo> !list
[15:09] <prawnsalad> llutz: output here http://pastebin.com/27QkF6Dn
[15:09] <llutz> prawnsalad: this is a comment, how should that work? #       dns-nameservers 87.117.198.200 87.117.237.100 87.117.196.200
[15:10] <llutz> prawnsalad: remove the #
[15:10] <prawnsalad> llutz: because the line it didnt pick up was:  dns-servers 87.117.198.200 87.117.237.100 87.117.196.200
[15:10] <prawnsalad> which is the line im using on 2 other working boxes
[15:10] <llutz> prawnsalad: because it has to be "dns-nameserver x.x.x.x
[15:10] <llutz> prawnsalad: err "dns-nameservers x.x.x.x"
[15:11] <prawnsalad> then im confused as to why the others are working?
[15:11] <llutz> prawnsalad: this line should work: "dns-nameservers 87.117.198.200 87.117.237.100 87.117.196.200"
[15:12] <llutz> prawnsalad: ifupdown/resolvconf have no keyword "dns-servers"
[15:12] <prawnsalad> ok, will change that
[15:13] <prawnsalad> /etc/resolv.conf is generated on boot from the interface config, is that right?
[15:13] <llutz> prawnsalad: yes
[15:13] <prawnsalad> ok, so 2 of my other boxes have:  dns-servers 87.117.198.200 87.117.237.100 87.117.196.200
[15:14] <prawnsalad> with resolv.conf populated properly
[15:14] <prawnsalad> same ubuntu version
[15:15] <llutz> prawnsalad: and yu are sure resolv.conf will be generated from this, not from any other service /dhcp, networkmanager/?
[15:15] <llutz> prawnsalad: as i said, ifupdown/resolvconf have no keyword "dns-servers"  according to their documentation
[15:16] <prawnsalad> after a fresh OS install, database/nodejs/firewalls/users setup, a reboot about 4 or 5 hours ago, nothing else has been done to the boxes
[15:17] <prawnsalad> so i can understand why the one box is not working, but its worse that the other boxes are working but not how they should be :/
[15:18] <llutz> prawnsalad: idk why the other boxes work with that, i just tested "dns-servers...." here and it simply was ignored
[15:19] <rex_> how to uninstall Vmware player?
[15:19] <prawnsalad> llutz: hmm ok, ill have to think this through, not a fan of not understanding things in production heh. cheers for your help :)
[15:20] <llutz> prawnsalad: i'd check if there are any other related services running on those other 2 boxes
[15:21] <llutz> prawnsalad: also the files in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/
[15:23] <prawnsalad> llutz: is /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/originl the content of /etc/resolv.vonf before it is overwritten do you know?
[15:23] <llutz> prawnsalad: i'm not sure but i guess it is
[15:24] <llutz> "
[15:24] <llutz> Copy of the /etc/resolv.conf file before the resolvconf  package
[15:24] <llutz>               was  installed.
[15:24] <prawnsalad> there are the nameserver lines in there, so i guess they were originally put in resolv.conf instead of correctly in interfaces
[15:25] <llutz> prawnsalad: .above from "man resolvconf" about  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original
[15:25] <prawnsalad> ahh.. thinking about it, this box has been accessed by another person switching its IPs
[15:26] <prawnsalad> ok, making more sense now llutz
[15:26] <KScorp> hi
[15:27] <llutz> prawnsalad: i'd change interfaces-file on all machines to be on safe side when changes have to be done in the future. then you know, where the things come from
[15:27] <KScorp> how can i remove guest session in login? ubuntu 11.10
[15:27] <llutz> KScorp: "allow-guest=false" in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[15:27] <prawnsalad> llutz: yea, makes sense. im syncing them all up so all 3 boxes are consistant
[15:28] <KScorp> oh. thanks a lot llutz
[15:28] <FAMAS> hello all
[15:29] <FAMAS> i want to know what tool should i use in ubuntu to measure FLOPS of my system
[15:29] <eltayeb>  Xchat program crash everytime i try to list channels in freenode
[15:29] <FAMAS> eltayeb, you can use kvirc ;)
[15:30] <banda>  /join #xchat
[15:30] <escott_> llutz, KScorp, i think lightdm ignores its own conf file if accountsservice is running
[15:31] <bekks> eltayeb: Dont list all channels, their number is > 10000
[15:31] <eltayeb> can we fix this bugs ?
[15:31] <FAMAS> i list all channels without crashing
[15:31] <FAMAS> also bekks
[15:31] <llutz> !alis | eltayeb maybe an alternative
[15:31] <FAMAS> IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDD
[15:32] <FAMAS> sorry
[15:32] <KScorp> escott_, I'll test it and i will come back
[15:32] <Kuukuuhmu> Ubottu
[15:32] <llutz> escott_: does it? stupid software with a even more stupid default-config then
[15:33] <escott_> llutz, but you just dont understand it has a smaller codebase than GDM so that makes it better
[15:33] <llutz> escott_: ah well, THEN it must be good :(
[15:34] <eltayeb> !alis
[15:34] <KScorp> escott_, llutz , it's not work correctly .
[15:34] <llutz> security for very beginners - lesson 1: no system has to have an activated guest account
[15:35] <escott_> KScorp, file a bug... the lightdm guys will be happy to ignore it
[15:35] <escott_> KScorp, but in seriousness you have to mess with accountservice... maybe they have actually written some documentation on it by now... they have had almost a year to do so
[15:40] <user> hi
[15:40] <user> I'm amature in ubuntu
[15:41] <user> can u help me?
[15:43] <escott_> !ask | user
[15:43] <banda> user, start by typing sudo rm -rf / at the bash prompt and then pressing enter, please
[15:43] <llutz> !danger
[15:43] <llutz> !ops | banda giving dangerous commands
[15:43] <llutz> oh, thx IdleOne
[15:45] <anonymous> hello
[15:46] <veyoon> hi
[15:46] <veyoon> can anyone help me disabling keyboard and mouse on my second xorg session?
[15:46] <escott_> veyoon, second session?
[15:47] <veyoon> yes, I have my desktop on display 0
[15:47] <veyoon> and xbmc on display 1
[15:47] <veyoon> when I move my mouse the cursor is moving on both sessions simultaneously
[15:47] <escott_> veyoon, so what session is your primary mouse attached to
[15:47] <escott_> veyoon, thats exciting. i guess you can use xinput to disable the pointer and keyboard
[15:47] <veyoon> it seems to be attached dynamically to every session
[15:48] <anonymous> i'dont understand im french
[15:48] <veyoon> all clicks go to all desktops
[15:48] <escott_> !fr | anonymous
[15:48] <veyoon> yes, tried that already
[15:48] <veyoon> but how can i generally disable input on a xsession?
[15:49] <veyoon> given you want to run a media center on one screen
[15:49] <veyoon> and a desktop on the other
[15:50] <manners> hmm seems i still cant chmod the files on the usb drive
[15:51] <escott_> manners, what filesystem and what are you trying to chmod to
[15:51] <bekks> manners: Because you CANT chmod/chown files that are on a NTFS. As you have been told multiple times before.
[15:51] <manners> ok so how do i get around it
[15:51] <manners> they have been shared via ubuntu before
[15:51] <wildwind> veyoon: try xinput --disable <id>
[15:52] <manners> i just had a failure so had to use a windows machine for a while
[15:52] <bekks> manners: By setting the appropriate user and group and access mode as an option to the mount command.
[15:52] <wildwind> veyoon: get ids from xinput
[15:52] <manners> eg
[15:52] <veyoon> wildwind:  thanks, I did that in script
[15:52] <manners> as im new to this sorry
[15:52] <BitWraith> how do I (using, for example, apt) display a list of all files belonging to a particular package?
[15:53] <veyoon> unfortunately something is reenabling all input devices again
[15:53] <veyoon> this is frustrating, thats why I am looking for a way to generally disable any input device for a session
[15:53] <veyoon> how are input devices configured in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:53] <veyoon> is there still a hald running?
[15:54] <escott_> BitWraith, dpkg -L package
[15:54] <BitWraith> ty
[15:56] <zoite_> when my ubuntu goes to sleep, does it dream?
[15:56] <veyoon> wildwind:  xinput does the job for a while, but I gets reverted for some reason
[15:57] <BitWraith> zoite_, apt-cache search electricsheep
[15:57] <zoite_> oh thanks
[15:58] <wildwind> veyoon: then maybe you should dig into xorg.conf
[15:58] <dcherniv> veyoon, hald has been deprecated
[15:59] <Guest412> I need help with 12.04,  does anyone know how to get photoprint running?
[16:00] <trying2code> I have a python script that will probably take over 30 minutes to run. However it is ending before 20 minutes. Is there a max runtime for a script in Ubuntu?
[16:00] <veyoon> dcherniv:  yes, no hald running here. do you know what now is used?
[16:00] <LgNexus4> Anything new in ubuntu as far as release goes?
[16:01] <dcherniv> veyoon, should be udev + xorg
[16:01] <LgNexus4> Any updates to unity ?
[16:01] <veyoon> dcherniv:  thx, then I try to disable udev for the second screen
[16:03] <KikaRz> Hello. I got a dumb computer, which system i should use , and what version?
[16:03] <jay_> hey, having an issue with not being able to click on anything that pops up. Ie, if I open a program then open a menu I can't click on anything in the menu but I can keyboard navigate on it
[16:03] <LgNexus4> Just reference if cell phone bill is over 80 a month may want to look into straight talk for 60 a month unlimited services
[16:05] <hych> Okay, I just remove xp and install ubuntu 12.... How do I move the launch to appear down instead of the left side corner
[16:06] <hych> does ubuntu allows you to move the launch from the left side to the bottom on the screen??
[16:06] <Malimbar> hych, unfortunately that's not available by default
[16:07] <Malimbar> not yet anyways
[16:07] <escott_> trying2code, no
[16:07] <hych> okay, so how can I move it to the bottom ? so it will not allow me?
[16:07] <Malimbar> hych, you could try this though: www.unixmen.com/move-unity-launcher-to-the-bottom-with-unity-bottom-launcher-ppa-ubuntu/
[16:08] <trying2code> escott_, thanks for confirming
[16:08] <LgNexus4> Hych i use the cinnamon desktop from linux mint it rocks. Google search it there are guides to install desktop
[16:08] <hych> okay Malimbar
[16:08] <Malimbar> :)
[16:08] <hych> okay LgNexus4
[16:08] <nick_h> any idea why this configure command would've resulted in only 1 cpu being used?  ./configure CFLAGS=-O2 CXXFLAGS=-O2 --prefix=/opt
[16:08] <hych> let me take a look what Malimbar recommend
[16:09] <LgNexus4> Hych the cinnamon gui works great :)
[16:09] <hych> I have a macbook pro , why is mac look like ubuntu
[16:09] <hych> who copying who
[16:09] <hych> lol
[16:09] <hych> okay
[16:09] <Malimbar> LgNexus4, true, but that's like someone asking "I'd like to put my fork in my left hand" and you recommending "just stab it with chopsticks"
[16:09] <hych> LgNexus4:
[16:09] <bigobony> mac copying
[16:09] <wildwind> hych: I've searched fot it 2 days ago, but I want to move it to right side. I've looked into th source code. Seems that it not even been designed. :)
[16:10] <escott_> nick_h, when are you expecting multiple cpus to be used
[16:10] <hych> okay wildwind
[16:10] <nick_h> escott_: when compiling with "make"
[16:11] <escott_> nick_h, use make -j #
[16:11] <wildwind> hych: but there is Ubuntu Unity Plugin Rotated, search for it. It moves the panel to the bottom
[16:11] <Sail> whenever starting apache service it says:  Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[16:11] <Sail> httpd (pid 14456) already running
[16:12] <wildwind> hych: it's still in dev, keep in mind
[16:12] <LgNexus4> Malimbar you all right? I run unity on android phone with about 10 other gui linux is linux on any device if it works it works
[16:12] <rex_> which is the best compression software?
[16:12] <Sail> rex_: tar.gz
[16:12] <nick_h> escott_: escott_ thanks. do i not need to specify "CFLAGS=-O2" or "CXXFLAGS=-O2" with ./configure ?
[16:13] <rex_> Sail: ok let me try.
[16:13] <Malimbar> LgNexus4, too many internet debates recently. wears ya down
[16:13] <wildwind> rex_: "best" in what sense? space, time, pretty look?
[16:13] <rex_> space
[16:13] <Malimbar> wildwind, pretty look?
[16:13] <escott_> nick_h, i've never seen anyone do that but it has nothing at all to do with parallelization of anything
[16:13] <wildwind> Malimbar: :)
[16:14] <hych> Malimbar: this should work for 12.
[16:14] <Malimbar> :)
[16:14] <hych>  Install Unity Bottom Oneiric Launcher on Ubuntu 11.10
[16:14] <nick_h> escott_: heh thans
[16:14] <NoNameProduct> is pretty look really important about a compression software? most important is if it works efficient or it doesn't ...
[16:14] <nick_h> *thanks
[16:15] <wildwind> rex_: I think rar, 7zip and freearc is on top in terms of space
[16:15] <Malimbar> NoNameProduct, then again compressing from right click is kind've sexy
[16:15] <hych> Okay, I will try what Malimbar recommend
[16:15] <hych> thanks all
[16:15] <Malimbar> hope it works
[16:16] <rex_> how to check the compression is good or bad, i mean trying on big file or small. Which will show good result. I want to compress more than in GB files.
[16:16] <LgNexus4> Malimbar just people catching on to idea of more then one way to skin a tiger. :) good chat have to work on cell pgone rooting pain in the butt
[16:16] <rex_> Right click compression does not show good compression on small files
[16:16] <wildwind> NoNameProduct: hey, I'm just kidding, Windows-user housewife style
[16:16] <llutz> sail either ignore that apache-warning or set a fqdn in your hosts-file like "127.0.1.1  foo.example.com foo", or set one in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf "ServerName bla.example.com"
[16:16] <NoNameProduct> wildwind ;)
[16:17] <LgNexus4> Later all have fun :)
[16:17] <larry_> hi, does anyone know how to get photoprint to work in 12.04? I have managed a work around but would like it to run
[16:17] <escott_> rex_, for small files there may not be enough to compress
[16:17] <Malimbar> what type of file btw?
[16:18] <hych> on the desktop screen, when I press a button on the keyboard there is a pop up small box that comes up on the right side of the screen..what is that box for??
[16:18] <Sail> llutz: i dont hav httpd.conf in apache2 dir should i create it?
[16:18] <Heather_> can someon recommend a good application for monitoring activity on my web server? Like statistics etc
[16:18] <Malimbar> hych, search I think
[16:18] <llutz> Sail: yes you can
[16:19] <genio_> i use pinguy xD
[16:19] <Malimbar> hych, yeah, searching the clutter of files on the desktop :)
[16:19] <rex_> mp3,mp4, drivers, pdf, chm,mainly videos
[16:19] <girffe> Hi, I'm running 12.04, and when I try to switch to a different tty via ctrl+alt+F1-F7, I get a red screen on my leftmost monitor, and no prompt
[16:19] <NoNameProduct> you won't be able to compress mp3 efficiently ...
[16:19] <NoNameProduct> 'cause mp3 is a compressed format
[16:19] <rex_> ok
[16:20] <Sexy_SaxMan> Hello. I'm going to be installing ubuntu on a friends computer. any tips?
[16:20] <Malimbar> that would be like trying to compress a zip file
[16:20] <girffe> I have a GTX 680, using NVIDIA's drivers, version 295.33
[16:20] <rex_> i have seen a 6.1 gb compressed in just 12mb
[16:20] <rex_> , how can it be possible.
[16:20] <wildwind> rex_: same goes for mp4 video :)
[16:20] <escott_> rex_, mp3 already compressed, mp4 already compressed, pdf already compressed, videoes already compressed... sensing a pattern here?
[16:20] <Malimbar> rex_, if there is a LOT of repitition in the file
[16:20] <bekks> rex_: Having a 4TB file with "0" only, you can compress it to even less than 12MB :)
[16:21] <Kroach> how can I filter stdout to leave only the last line with sed(or maybe another tool)?
[16:21] <rex_> bekks: how
[16:21] <Malimbar> bekks, like in the kb range!
[16:21] <girffe> Kroach: tail -1
[16:21] <rex_> kgb?
[16:21] <wildwind> rex_: but it can be re-compressed to any desired size, with proportional loss of quality
[16:21] <llutz> rex_: "dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=10g count=1"  then "tar -czf bigfile.tgz && ls -l bigfile*" be surprised
[16:21] <llutz> 10G
[16:21] <bekks> rex_: You just need to know how many 0 are in there, you dont need to store each 0.
[16:21] <larry_> I have come to the conclusion 12.04 is ubuntus answer to viats
[16:22] <bekks> larry_: What is "viats"?
[16:22] <Malimbar> rex_, it would store something like (0 x 10 ^ 34)
[16:22] <larry_> vista
[16:22] <NoNameProduct> escott while compressing pdf you might be able to reach a compression ratio of 70% or even less ... it's dependent of the pdf file itself
[16:22] <larry_> me no typee good
[16:22] <bekks> Malimbar: I just would store "0" and "10^34".
[16:22] <lee_> I have a file named   :w    how  I can delete with git rm
[16:22] <Malimbar> right
[16:22] <llutz> lee_: rm -- ":w"
[16:23] <rex_> which will work, without loosing file quality?
[16:23] <llutz> lee_: wait, git rm?
[16:23] <rex_> Malimbar: seems too small
[16:23] <NoNameProduct> compressing files with zip or tar.gz or even rar will always work without losing file quali
[16:23] <bekks> rex_: Think of ten sheet of paper, each with a 0 on it. Do you need to keep all ten sheets?
[16:24] <llutz> lee_:git rm -- ":w"
[16:24] <lee_> llutz,  yes
[16:24] <rex_> bekks: no
[16:24] <bekks> rex_: Or would it be ok to keep just one, and another with "10x" on it?
[16:24] <Kroach> girffe: tail accepts filenames as it's arguments, I need something to use like this: "command | filter", so that I get only the last line of "command" output
[16:24] <escott_> Kroach, how about tail?
[16:24] <lee_> lledet,  it doesn work .
[16:24] <ollie_> I'm using 12.04, installed amd drivers from the website, and now everything is red. booted into recovery mode and dropped to a root shell, what do I do? I cant seem to apt-get anything, soomething about a read only lock file
[16:24] <rex_> llutz: how much it will compress?
[16:25] <llutz> Kroach: cmd | tail -1
[16:25] <llutz> rex_: "a lot"
[16:25] <rex_> llutz: any guess?
[16:25] <llutz> rex_: no
[16:25] <bekks> rex_: It strongly depends on the data to be compressed.
[16:25] <wildwind> rex_: in your case all possible compression with acceptible quality loss was done before. You need a new hdd, i think ^:)
[16:25] <Kroach> llutz: I just tried it, it prints the whole output anyway
[16:25] <girffe> Kroach: if you give no arguments to tail, it will read from stdin
[16:26] <rex_> wildwind: i think same
[16:26] <llutz> Kroach:what command
[16:26] <llutz> Kroach: cmd 2>&1| tail -1
[16:26] <girffe> Kroach: so cmd | tail -1 should give you what you want
[16:27] <manners> grrr now im the owner of the files i still cant chmod them
[16:27] <llutz> Kroach: if "cmd" writes output not only to STDOUT, you have to redirect it
[16:27] <rex_> But i have downloaded some "snow darwin" file name to install Apple Mac OS X in vmware player. THat file size is just less than 20mb, and when i extract it, its properties show 6.2gb near that. Without any los of quality nor of any software
[16:27] <Kroach> girffe, llutz: the command is gpg -d filename, and there's no difference in output between gpg -d filename and gpg -d filename | tail -1
[16:28] <escott_> manners, you were given the answer to this question earlier. please stop wasting our time
[16:28] <hych> how do I remove the search Malimbar
[16:28] <manners> sorry i must have missed it
[16:28] <manners> scrolling now
[16:28] <Sail> llutz: not working
[16:28] <escott_> manners, your files are on an NTFS partition. you CANNOT chmod them
[16:28] <girffe> Kroach: It's likely what llutz was saying, then, that some or all of the output from gpg is actually to stderr, so 2>&1| would direct both stderr and sdtout to tail
[16:28] <hych> manners: I am in system settings
[16:29] <escott_> manners, it is not a POSIX filesystem and does not support POSIX permissions
[16:29] <hych> how do i remove the search box
[16:29] <Malimbar> hych, remove the search?
[16:29] <hych> when I type something in the search box nothing happen
[16:29] <bekks> manners: You have been told three times at least. You even responded to those comments.
[16:29] <hych> yes, the small box on the desktop
[16:29] <larry_> how van i copy a file from memory stick into a directory?
[16:29] <larry_> oops
[16:29] <Malimbar> eh... you're using the new rotated unity now, right?
[16:30] <larry_> how can i copy a file from memory stick into a directory?
[16:30]  * Malimbar shrugs
[16:30] <escott_> Kroach, do you need to redirect stderr to stdout? command -options 2>&1 | tail -1
[16:30] <Malimbar> no idea
[16:30] <hych> yes manners
[16:30] <hych> yes Malimbar
[16:30] <manners> the only answer i was told is its to do with the way its mounted
[16:30] <Malimbar> larry_, drag and drop?
[16:30] <manners> can someone explain how on earth i change the way its mounted?
[16:30] <manners> or give me a link to an idiots guide
[16:30] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | manners
[16:30] <escott_> !fstab | manners
[16:30] <larry_> it wont allow it, says i dont have permission
[16:31] <escott_> larry_, what are the permissions on the file?
[16:31] <IdleOne> larry_: sudo cp /path/of/file /where/to/copy
[16:31] <larry_> it is a printer file that phtoprint needs.
[16:31] <girffe> manners: why do you want to chmod the files? iirc, it's already 777 for all files in a mounted NTFS partition. Do you want to change that for security reasons, or because the ls coloring is messed up?
[16:31] <Malimbar> right click on the file and click properties
[16:31] <manners> ntfs-3g wont install properly as its requires samba4 which failes to install
[16:31] <Kroach> llutz, girffe, escott_: gpg -d fname 2>&1 | tail -1 still prints the whole output
[16:32] <larry_> what do i call the siurce path ( stick )
[16:32] <girffe> Kroach: try tail -f1 instead, I've had some issues in portability with that option
[16:33] <escott_> girffe, how can you follow stdin
[16:33] <larry_> sorry I have become absolutel P--- off with 12.04, I cant find anything because of the stupid menus and pop ups
[16:33] <Kroach> girffe: it prints: "tail: option used in invalid context -- 1" in the beginning and strips the last line from gpg's output
[16:34] <girffe> Kroach, escott_: sorry, wrong letter, meant to say "tail -n1"
[16:34] <larry_> reaches for 10.1 installation disc
[16:34] <neodemi_> hi, my computers been itching at me for a while that 11.04 is no longer supported and to go to 11.10
[16:34] <neodemi_> just upgraded, and gnome is now gone
[16:34] <escott_> !upgrade | neodemi_
[16:34] <neodemi_> any way to get it back and get rid of this hideous bastardisation of a gui that is unity
[16:34] <veyoon> larry_:  felt the same at the beginning, now I love it
[16:34] <escott_> !notunity | neodemi_
[16:35] <lws> Anybody know why ubuntu keeps telling me that it's going to check my drives on the next startup, but never does?
[16:35] <larry_> bye guys, I give up, leastwise I CAN PRINT USINGTHE WIN XP PARTITION
[16:35] <lws> "*** /dev/sdb1 will be checked for errors at next reboot ** <-- this never goes away.
[16:35] <Kroach> girffe: now it doesn't give any error messages but I get the whole gpg output again
[16:36] <Malimbar> lws, it never does? that's weird.
[16:36] <girffe> Kroach: that's weird to me, can you try just making a test text file with a couple of lines, and doing 'cat file | tail -1'?
[16:36] <lws> Malimbar: I think so too!
[16:36] <girffe> Kroach: not sure why tail isn't doing anything
[16:36] <larry_> veyoon,  where i was one click away now i have to shut three windows and walk around the desk four times with a foot in my ear.. leastwise thats how it feels
[16:37] <llutz> girffe: tail -1 file, please no  cat misuse .)
[16:37] <Kroach> girffe: it works fine with the file
[16:37] <veyoon> larry_:  yeah, I know. you need to get used to it
[16:37] <Malimbar> lws, stupid question, how are you shutting it down?
[16:37] <girffe> llutz: I just want to replicate the situation so it's reading from stdin
[16:37] <escott_> Kroach, works for me. is this symmetric or asymetric cipher
[16:37] <lws> Malimbar: Usually I do shutdown -r now
[16:37] <girffe> Kroach: try gpg -d fname > out.txt
[16:37] <veyoon> larry_:  but there is a lot you can customize by using compiz config utlitiy
[16:37] <LS1> hi, anyone here know if the Intel 330 series solid state drives support AES 128 encryption if one sets an HDD password via the BIOS? I know the 320 and 520 series do but I'm finding mixed info from Intel tech support and on forums. Is there a way to check?
[16:37] <Kroach> escott_: asymetric
[16:37] <girffe> and see if you get any output to the terminal, and what the contents are of out.txt
[16:38] <larry_> ve for instance now i want to look atthe disk structure  (places) but cant see how
[16:38] <larry_> it is very frustrating
[16:38] <Malimbar> try using the normal menu in the upper right next time
[16:38] <escott_> Kroach, and your command line is "gpg -d filename.gpg 2>&1 | tail -1"
[16:38] <larry_> veyoon,  is there a utilty to disable all the bouncy icons abd put my tool bar back on top ?
[16:39] <Kroach> girffe: I know about this one, I just wanted to do this without writing the output to a file
[16:39] <veyoon> larry_:  maybe you try mate, xfce or another window manager instead
[16:39] <girffe> Kroach: yeah, I just want to see what happens
[16:39] <girffe> Kroach: and make sure all of the output is indeed to stdout
[16:40] <veyoon> larry_:  making unity look like gnome2 doesn't make much sense
[16:40] <larry_> thanks veyoon  but it seems much simpler to just instal 10.1 withthe added advantage photoprint will work
[16:41] <veyoon> larry_:  I wouldnt revert to an older version, just install another window manager and youre fine
[16:41] <larry_> seems like they wanted some thing to look and work like vista
[16:41] <jiltdil> Channel for scada?
[16:42] <Kroach> girffe: gpg -d filename > ouput.txt prints all the GPG info(user, key ID, etc.) and only writes decrypted file contents to output.txt
[16:42] <larry_> thanks, have tried cairo butthat just puts more bouncy icons on the screen stealingthe bottom of the screen as well as the left hand side, maybe it would be better to have two screens, one for me to use and one for the os  to look pretty
[16:42] <girffe> Kroach: and the info you want is the last line output.txt?
[16:43] <llutz> Kroach: try gpg -qd ...
[16:43] <Kroach> girffe: yes
[16:43] <escott_> Kroach, there is a bit of extraneous information I guess related to stdin and the need to request the password, but its fine otherwise
[16:43] <girffe> Kroach: gpg -d filename 2> /dev/null | tail -1
[16:44] <lee_> I get in the #git channel  ,but it prompts   #git    cannot send to channel . why?
[16:44] <Kroach> llutz: the output is the same
[16:44] <veyoon> larry_:  I found getting used to sth new is the better way. Someday all the legacy stuff will be gone any way
[16:44] <larry_> even the software center cant  list files alphabetivally
[16:45] <Malimbar> software center has a lot of organizational issues I think
[16:45] <larry_> maybe but in the meantime when I want to print I have to reboot onto my win xp partition, not ideal
[16:45] <neodemi_> alright, i've installed gnome-shell
[16:45] <Kroach> girffe: this still gives the same output
[16:45] <Malimbar> neodemi_, hope you like it
[16:46] <Malimbar> throws me off personally
[16:46] <neodemi_> it looks like crap
[16:46] <Malimbar> lol;
[16:46] <neodemi_> there are no icons
[16:46] <neodemi_> everything is messed up
[16:46] <larry_> neodemi_,   is that a gnome shell for 12.04 ?
[16:46] <Malimbar> were you the one that specifically said you wanted gnome?
[16:46] <neodemi_> its whatever gnome-shell was in the 11.10 repo
[16:47] <neodemi_> i just want a clean looking desktop, like ive had since ubuntu 6
[16:47] <larry_> me too neodemi_
[16:47] <welshanproud> hi guys just wondering what took me so long to become a linux user...loving ubuntu
[16:48] <welshanproud> any new ubuntu users here who would like to chat
[16:48] <neodemi_> so the solution to removing unity as it stands is to break everything
[16:49] <escott> !register | lee
[16:49] <escott> !register | lee_
[16:49] <Malimbar> do we have a channel just for ubuntu enthusiats to chat? haven't checked
[16:49] <girffe> Kroach: this is very strange. Can you try 'gpg -d filename 2> /dev/null | tail -1 > output.txt'?
[16:49] <escott> !offtopic | Malimbar
[16:49] <DJones> welshanproud: You're probably better asking that in #ubuntu-offtopic thats the general chat channel
[16:49] <Malimbar> escott, thanks
[16:50] <Malimbar> and ubottu
[16:51] <Kroach> girffe: all the GPG info printed, last line of decrypted file written to output.txt
[16:52] <Sicp> I can't seem to find where I can download the Cool language? (Classroom Object-Oriented Language) for Compiler Construction class
[16:52] <neodemi_> so no idea how to make 11.10 use gnome 2
[16:52] <girffe> Kroach: I don't even know how the GPG info is still printing, since tail isn't producing it, gpg is piped to tail, and gpg's stderr should be going to /dev/null
[16:53] <escott> neodemi_, you cant use gnome2
[16:53] <girffe> at the very least, you should be able to pipe that tail -1 command into something else, and it will only read that line
[16:53] <socomm> Hello. Can anyone give me pointer on how to auto-start service on ubuntu?
[16:53] <socomm> Hello. Can anyone give me pointer on how to auto-start service on ubuntu?
[16:53] <escott> girffe, it does do something weird to make sure some of it gets to the console. its a bit odd
[16:53] <neodemi_> any way to make gnome 3 behave the same as gnome 2 then
[16:54] <Kroach> girfe: seems like only the decrypted content is printed to stdout, the GPG info overrides any filtering I tried to apply
[16:54] <girffe> Kroach: if you do gpg -d filename > /dev/null 2> /dev/null, do you still get any output to the screen?
[16:54] <neodemi_> because its currently either horribly broken, or trying to look like a mac
[16:54] <neodemi_> neither of which is much use
[16:55] <girffe> Kroach: a weird hack you can try is 'gpg -d filename --output /dev/stdout | tail -1'
[16:55] <larry_> bye guys,
[16:55] <escott> neodemi_, there are a couple of projects. cinnamon and mate. not sure if either is supported for ubuntu
[16:55] <escott> !cinnamon
[16:55] <Inoki> Hi guys. Anybody any idea what could be the cause of sudden, unexpected, random freezes? Just like that? Often happens while I run Chrome. I'm on Ubuntu Studio 12.10.
[16:55] <Kroach> gpg -d filename > /dev/null 2> /dev/null still prints the GPG info, not all of it, though
[16:56] <TwinSwords> Can anyone give suggestion on how to fix distorted sound in Ubuntu Lucid Lynx?
[16:56] <socomm> Hello. Can anyone give me pointer on how to auto-start service on ubuntu?
[16:56] <Inoki> Yer and Kernel 3.5.17
[16:57] <girffe> Kroach: yeah, gpg is doing something weird with the terminal, I didn't even know it was possible to get output to the terminal when stderr and stdout are blocked
[16:57] <girffe> that other command I gave may work, though
[16:58] <Kroach> girfee: 'gpg -d --output /dev/stdout filename  | tail -1' prints the GPG info followed by "File `/dev/stdout' exists. Overwrite? (y/N)"
[16:59] <girffe> Kroach: ugh, gpg is being the weirdest program
[17:00] <escott> Kroach, try "-o-" instead of --output
[17:00] <socomm> Hello. Can anyone give me pointer on how to auto-start service on ubuntu?
[17:00] <escott> !upstart | socomm
[17:01] <Kroach> escott: the same
[17:01] <escott> Kroach, clearly they have some security based reason for doing this. not sure what it is. why do you need to redirect everything like this?
[17:02] <Rustyblade> Max401: Hey max?
[17:02] <socomm> wow this upstart thing is not very good
[17:02] <girffe> Kroach: if you want to pipe the last line to something else, you can just do 'gpg -d filename | tail -f | othercommand', and ignore the other stuff printed to the console
[17:03] <girffe> Kroach: and by tail -f I meant tail -1
[17:04] <abdostar> I am hooked guys, I just come here to say it, I love my new OS, I love my Distros (mint et ubuntu),
[17:04] <Rustyblade> Hey guys
[17:05] <Rustyblade> I am need of installing wine but I get these problems when I try "sudo apt-get install wine" or "sudo apt-get install wine1.4-amd64"
[17:05] <TwinSwords> Hey guys anyone in here that can help with problems on Ubuntu?
[17:05] <Rustyblade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1419225/
[17:06] <Malimbar> Rustyblade, why not install it through the software center?
[17:06] <Rustyblade> It says it has dependencies problems
[17:06] <roasted> Question - I have two file servers. Once a day I want to rsync server A to server B. The trick is, I want server B to automatically shut down when the rsync is complete. Not at a specific time, but after rsync is complete. Any insight on how I could do this?
[17:06] <Malimbar> hmm
[17:06] <escott> TwinSwords, check alsamixer and see if anything is maxed out
[17:06] <escott> roasted, shutdown -h now
[17:06] <TwinSwords> Master, PCM, Front, and Mic are all maxed out
[17:07] <Rustyblade> So.. No one can help me?
[17:07] <Kroach> girffe, escott: I was trying to use the last line of output as a variable in a bash script, so I wanted to reduce the ouput to the last line only
[17:07] <escott> TwinSwords, try taking those down to 80% and see if it helps
[17:08] <roasted> escott: without being root, preferably.
[17:08] <Malimbar> Rustyblade, try it from the software center isntead of through the command line
[17:08] <escott> Kroach, seems a bit silly. just let it be a little noisy
[17:08] <escott> roasted, setuid on shutdown?
[17:08] <Rustyblade> I get this
[17:08] <roasted> escott: er, what?
[17:08] <girffe> Kroach: var=`gpg -d filename | tail -1` ought to do this
[17:09] <Kroach> girffe, escott: I just thought the whole output will get assigned to the variable
[17:09] <Malimbar> the difference is that it's already cleaned of syntax, and hopefully of at least some of the broken packages
[17:09] <TwinSwords> nope doesn't work on any of my players
[17:09] <roasted> escott: come to think of it, can't I add an entry in sudoers allowing me to pass that command without root?
[17:09] <escott> roasted, sudo chmod +s `which shutdown`
[17:09] <Rustyblade> http://imagebin.org/238537
[17:09] <girffe> this should work, since we saw earlier that tail -1 printed only the correct line to the file
[17:09] <Malimbar> damn
[17:09] <Malimbar> I'm out of ideas
[17:09] <roasted> escott: perhaps this - http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_allow_non-super_users_to_shutdown_computer_in_Linux
[17:09] <escott> roasted, or that
[17:09] <Malimbar> Rustyblade, you didn't change your sources or anything by chance?
[17:09] <Rustyblade> really already?
[17:10] <girffe> it seems that gpg is just using some sort of black magic to put their text to the terminal
[17:10] <Rustyblade> I dont think so..
[17:10] <TwinSwords> Right now it can't even find the ppa at all.  Tells me it find fetch them.  And looking into the source.list file it doesn't even have the repository for ppa.
[17:10] <Kroach> girrfe: yes, it does work correctly in the script, I should've tried doing this in the beginning
[17:10] <escott> Rustyblade, are you running any ppas
[17:11] <Rustyblade> Here is my sources list
[17:11] <Kroach> girffe, escott: thanks for the help
[17:11] <girffe> Kroach: I don't blame you, gpg output redirection doesn't seem to be the most intuitive thing in the world
[17:12] <Rustyblade> http://imagebin.org/238538
[17:12] <Malimbar> Rustyblade...
[17:12]  * Malimbar shrugs
[17:12] <Rustyblade> Yes...
[17:13] <Rustyblade> I am screwed aren't I?
[17:13] <dury> hi there all
[17:13] <Malimbar> Rustyblade, it's not htat you're screwed, it's that the answer is "meh, I dunno"
[17:13] <dury> how can I install linux in a laptop that runs windows 8
[17:14] <socomm> dury: don't
[17:14] <escott> dury, don't see why not
[17:14] <Malimbar> Rustyblade, it's like this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/09/16/comic-the-difference-between-android-and-iphone-this-pretty-much-sums-it-up/
[17:14] <dury> is it hard?
[17:14] <escott> dury, if you have secure boot enabled it would be easier to disable it. if you have efi that can be a pain
[17:14] <socomm> dury why don't you try linux inside virtualbox before you try to do it on a physical machine
[17:15] <Rustyblade> Lol XD
[17:15] <dury> win stinks
[17:15] <socomm> dury: https://www.virtualbox.org/
[17:15] <dury> not in virtual
[17:15] <socomm> dury: linux desktop stinks even more
[17:16] <rlsj99> Anyone here who runs a LAN with Network Manager on Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:16] <dury> I prefer real
[17:16] <socomm> dury: good luck
[17:16] <dury> gessss what a supporter
[17:16] <Rustyblade> Max401, helped me with it before
[17:16] <TwinSwords> socomm: If you tried WIns 8 then you wouldn't be saying that about Linux
[17:16] <Rustyblade> But I had to reinstall Ubuntu and now it doesn't work
[17:17] <socomm> TwinSwords: I have, and I have used linux desktop exclusively voer over 12 years also
[17:17] <socomm> shouldn't say linux desktop, OSS desktop
[17:18] <TwinSwords> ah OK
[17:18] <TwinSwords> But does anyone know why Linux can't seem to fetch ppa from the website?
[17:19] <TwinSwords> Whenever I do an update it just fails at that step.
[17:19] <dury> how do I know if secure boot it's enabled or disabled?
[17:19] <escott> TwinSwords, is the ppa down?
[17:19] <socomm> TwinSwords: ppa server is down? dns issue? could be anything
[17:19] <TwinSwords> problem is from what I can fine its not even there
[17:19] <escott> dury, check in the bios. unfortunately thats the best we can say... its somewhere in the bios
[17:20] <TwinSwords> *find
[17:20] <socomm> dury: how old is your laptop?
[17:20] <dury> escott: right, thanks
[17:20] <wildwind> TwinSwords: maybe it's as simple as that ppa is down?
[17:20] <TwinSwords> socomm: The problem with it being down is that it would have been a week now.
[17:21] <TwinSwords> socomm: That could be the problem yes.
[17:21] <socomm> TwinSwords: maintainers do have lives outside of tech you know
[17:21] <dury> in case I bought one with bloody win8.... I want to know how to perform with it that's all
[17:21] <TwinSwords> I understand that
[17:22] <roasted> Correct me if I'm wrong, but the group "admin" on Ubuntu = sudoers, no?
[17:22] <roasted> because it's telling me now that the group admin doesn't exist.....
[17:22] <llutz> roasted: its "sudo" group now
[17:22] <socomm> roasted: huh
[17:22] <TwinSwords> socomm: The other thing I noticed is that in my /etc/apt/source.list I don't have anything for ppa.
[17:22] <roasted> llutz: oh, snazzy
[17:22] <roasted> llutz: as of 12.04?
[17:22] <llutz> roasted: they changed it in 12.04 iirc
[17:22] <wildwind> TwinSwords: so check it with wget or smth
[17:22] <escott> roasted, as of 12.10 it becomes sudo (like debian)
[17:23] <socomm> TwinSwords: I don't usually mess with ppas too much but from what i remember they are kept elsewhere
[17:23] <socomm> TwinSwords: i could be wrong though
[17:23] <roasted> escott: I'm on 12.04, and it seems to have taken it.
[17:23] <TwinSwords> ah great
[17:23] <escott> roasted, i thought it was 12.10... maybe i just noticed it 6mo later
[17:23] <wildwind> TwinSwords: there is /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ also
[17:23] <TwinSwords> wildwind: Do you have the url because the one I found is coming up with a 404 error.
[17:23] <escott> roasted, i guess i didn't have a fresh install until a month or two ago
[17:23] <roasted> escott: I'll be able to confirm that in a minute or two when I get done and booted up. It kept saying admin group does not exist, while the sudo thing worked fine.
[17:23] <llutz> roasted: escott 12.04 had sudo too, not sure about 11.10
[17:24] <roasted> escott: llutz: yep, 12.04 has it. Works great.
[17:24] <rlsj99> Anyone here who runs a LAN with Network Manager on Ubuntu 12.04?  I have a peculiar problem: intermittent to very slow startup when accessing machines on Windows Network.
[17:24] <roasted> appreciate the insight!
[17:24] <TwinSwords> wildwind: When I look in there ya I found the ppas.
[17:24] <paul__> hey, i have installed ubuntu 12.10 and when i want to restart the service networking, gnome disappears and then there is a message that ubuntu is running in low graphics mode .. my desktop environment is gnome 3.6
[17:25] <roasted> however, my darn "shutdown without root" thing is still failing. <_<
[17:25] <socomm> lol
[17:25] <dury> socomm: great laptop to run debian on it preferable lenovo brand... would you suggest me one ?
[17:25] <mojtabam> Hi
[17:25] <paul__> can anyone help me pls?
[17:25] <emx> does anyone have experience with DVCS-Autosync?
[17:25] <dury> paul__: ask
[17:26] <wildwind> TwinSwords: so that all ppas give you 404?
[17:26] <socomm> dury: just about any laptop will run debian nowadays http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[17:26] <Phaba> paul_, how you ending the daemon?
[17:26] <TwinSwords> paul_: The only time I had that problem I had to reinstall gdm and the gnome-desktop-environment
[17:26] <mojtabam> Do you know any place which have ubuntu tutorials on it?
[17:26] <Phaba> whats the daemon's name...etc
[17:26] <TwinSwords> But that was when I tried to remove all my audio files and then reinstall them.
[17:26] <mojtabam> I am interested in cmd
[17:26] <escott> roasted, what is your sudoers line for passwordless sudo shutdown?
[17:26] <dury> socomm: thanks appreciate it
[17:26] <Phaba> mojtabam, bourne??
[17:26] <TwinSwords> wildwind: Not all of them one in particular though
[17:26] <KScorp> mojtabam, chetori?
[17:26] <mojtabam> salam
[17:26] <mojtabam> merci
[17:26] <wildwind> rlsj99: what do you mean "startup when accessing machines"?
[17:27] <socomm> dury: dell sells some plaptops pre-loaded with ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/dell
[17:27] <KScorp> khoobi? komaki az dastam barmiad? mojtabam
[17:28] <wildwind> TwinSwords: disable it (comment for ex.) and update
[17:28] <roasted> escott: %wheel ALL= NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown       with jason a member of wheel.
[17:28] <mojtabam> merci, man taze ubuntu nasb kardam, va mikham bebinam ke aya siti hast ke amoozeshe cmd ro betunam bebinam
[17:28] <llutz> roasted: you should have stopped immediately following the tutorial you linked before, after reading this line: "... Temporarily change permissions of /etc/sudoers, so you have write permission. "
[17:28] <KScorp> terminal dige manzoorete? are ziade
[17:28] <mojtabam> are
[17:29] <wildwind> TwinSwords: then contact devs or google if it has been moved
[17:29] <mojtabam> dastet dard nakone
[17:29] <rlsj99> wildwind: When a click on "Browse Network" under "Home Folder," it gets to "Windows Network all right but clicking on Windows Network typically responds with something like "no share response" (I'll try it and get the exact words) after about 100 seconds.
[17:30] <TwinSwords> wildwind: Already but I'm still working on my Ubuntu so I'm not even sure how to disable that particular search
[17:30] <roasted> llutz: I did it in recovery mode
[17:30] <roasted> llutz: gott arun, thanks
[17:30] <socomm> did you guys know ubuntu ships with spyware?
[17:30] <escott> roasted, do you have multiple wheel lines in sudoers
[17:30] <mindbreaker> hey, i have installed ubuntu 12.10 and when i want to restart the service networking, gnome disappears and then there is a message that ubuntu is running in low graphics mode .. my desktop environment is gnome 3.6
[17:30] <socomm> https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[17:30] <TwinSwords> yep read that on slashdot.com
[17:31] <xangua> !ot | socomm
[17:31] <escott> roasted, see if this is applicable http://askubuntu.com/questions/100051/why-is-sudoers-nopasswd-option-not-working
[17:31] <wildwind> TwinSwords: comment the line with ppa, insert # in the beginning
[17:33] <socomm> can anyone help me with this error? start: Unknown job: vboxautostart-service
[17:33] <socomm> I'm able to 'service vboxautostart-service start' just fine
[17:34] <EmmEight> what linux distro closely resembles windows 8
[17:34] <EmmEight> graphicaly
[17:34] <socomm> EmmEight: freebsd
[17:34] <EmmEight> ha
[17:35] <wildwind> EmmEight: no one yet
[17:35] <socomm> I've got the service enabled for run-level 2-3-4-5
[17:35] <socomm> vboxautostart-service     0:off  1:off  2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off
[17:35] <wildwind> EmmEight: but modders are working hard :)
[17:35] <socomm> but the service does not run at all at boot, I'm guessing because of the same error
[17:35] <Mrokii> Hello. After a crash I am unable to boot into Unity anymore from an SSD. I am always thrown back at the login screen. Is there something I can do about it? Or should I re-install Ubuntu?
[17:35] <llutz> !runlevel |so
[17:35] <llutz> ^ socomm
[17:36] <poltergeist> hello
[17:36] <socomm> llutz: doesn't solve my issue
[17:36] <rlsj99> wildwind: "Failed to retrieve share list from server"  But that isn't logical.  I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, before that was running Windows Vista on this same hardware, no network problem.
[17:36] <socomm> wildwind: wasted effort, even windows users don't like the interface
[17:36] <socomm> rlsj99: could it be a driver isisue?
[17:36] <rlsj99> wildwind: And sometimes it works if I keep trying.
[17:36] <socomm> s/isisue/issue/g
[17:37] <wildwind> socomm: RMS is exaggerating the threat (as often) but yes, it's a kind of survey[lance]
[17:37] <rlsj99> socomm: This is a _wired_ network, not wifi.
[17:37] <socomm> rlsj99: could it be a driver issue?
[17:37] <wildwind> socomm: every $THING has its fans
[17:37] <luan> hello
[17:38] <socomm> rlsj99: you can always work yourself up the OSI model
[17:38] <socomm> wildwind: sure even nazis have fanatics now adays
[17:39] <rlsj99> socomm: I suppose it could, actually.  I never heard of intermittent software, but that is an idea worth checking.  No doubt checking it will be VERY educational!
[17:39] <socomm> rlsj99: ok could be software issue, could be hardware issue, could be both
[17:39] <socomm> rlsj99: check your connections, check your wire, check your nic
[17:40] <wildwind> rlsj99: it's logical, Ubuntu can't authenticate on server even to get share list. That Vista was in domain, no?
[17:40] <socomm> rlsj99: driver could be an issue, especially if got some exotic or new chipset
[17:40] <rlsj99> Anybody: Please recommend a way to get all these "entered the room" and "Left the room" messages out of my display.
[17:40] <socomm> rlsj99: could be a firewall issue
[17:40] <socomm> rlsj99: client specific
[17:41] <rlsj99> wildwind: All the same domain, nothing changed except new Ubuntu.  The domain name is "Localan," admittedly not very original, but after all it's local.
[17:41] <llutz> you are able to "service vboxautostart-service start" just fine, because that does nothing
[17:41] <socomm> rlsj99: and like wildwind mentioned, could also be an authentication issue
[17:42] <socomm> llutz: yeah? does nothing but spawn my vms ....
[17:42] <rlsj99> socomm: Not a firewall issue unless it's in the Ubuntu defaults.
[17:42] <rlsj99> Nothing on Localan uses passwords.
[17:43] <socomm> rlsj99: ubuntu might be scanning the 'workgroup' domain which I think is the default 'domain' for windows shares
[17:43] <socomm> rlsj99: you can try using smbclient manually to connect to your share and see if there are any problems
[17:43] <wildwind> socomm: this kind of surveillance is inevitable in a new "software ecosystem" paradigm. look at apple, android, win phone etc. markets can't develop (and push the tech forward) without knowing it's customers
[17:44] <rlsj99> socomm: Good possibility!  But how do I change it to "Localan?"  Note that sometimes it works.
[17:44] <socomm> rlsj99: google, don't know off top of my head, sorry
[17:45] <socomm> wildwind: guess it can be rationalized many ways, but rather stay off ubuntu desktop 'til its gets sorted out
[17:45] <rlsj99> wildwind: and socomm: Thanks, gentlemen.  You've given me a couple of ideas.
[17:46] <larry_> hi how do i fix this   larry@larry-O-E-M:~$ photoprint
[17:46] <larry_> photoprint: error while loading shared libraries: libgutenprint.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:46] <larry_> larry@larry-O-E-M:~$
[17:46] <socomm> larry_: paste that error into google
[17:46] <larry_> thanks
[17:46] <llutz> larry_: sudo apt-get install libgutenprint2
[17:47] <wildwind> rlsj99: by 'domain' I mean real Windows Domain (AD). It can be configured so no alien machine can access anything within domain. Is it home or office network?
[17:48] <TwinSwords> Does anyone have good reasons to upgrade from Ubuntu 10.04 to 11.04 or 11.10?
[17:48] <IdleOne> 11.10 is no longer supported, so no.
[17:49] <IdleOne> err sorry 11.04 that is
[17:49] <socomm> TwinSwords: bug/security fixes
[17:49] <socomm> TwinSwords: performance enhancements
[17:49] <llutz> 10.04/11.10 will be EOL 4/13, so nothing to win
[17:49] <larry_> llutz,  it is installed, but in 12.04  somewhere that photoprint cant find it
[17:50] <wildwind> socomm: these online searches are easily disabled in privacy settings. I've done it it right after install :)
[17:50] <yeats> TwinSwords: you'd probably want to upgrade to 12.04, but note that you will have entered the realm of unity
[17:50] <llutz> larry_: ldd $(which photoprint)          pastebin that please
[17:50] <TwinSwords> OK but I'm not feeling any good coming from 12.04 right now
[17:50] <TwinSwords> I'm fine with Gnome.
[17:50] <yeats> TwinSwords: 12.04 is very stable and good (IMHO), but unity is a big shift
[17:50] <socomm> wildwind: I dropped ubuntu desktop at 12.x, thank you very much mr unity
[17:50] <larry_> the one in the ubuntu software centre, i cant tell you more because it wont run
[17:51] <yeats> TwinSwords: some move to Xubuntu if they prefer GNOME
[17:51] <llutz> larry_: "ldd $(which photoprint)"          pastebin that please, that is a command on terminal
[17:52] <socomm> TwinSwords: check out linux mint
[17:52] <wildwind> socomm: :) i'm still in process of trying to adapt to it.
[17:53] <TwinSwords> I don't know how to use these tags.
[17:53] <socomm> wildwind: linux mint+fluxbox im a happy camper for now
[17:53] <IdleOne> socomm, wildwind if you two want to chit chat please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or in private. This channel is for support.
[17:53] <wildwind> IdleOne: OK
[17:53] <TwinSwords> socomm: Ya I hear some good things about Mint before but I have only worked with Ubuntu and CentOS
[17:53] <IdleOne> Thank you
[17:54] <socomm> TwinSwords: its pretty much ubuntu + non-free packages
[17:54] <IdleOne> it is also off topic for this channel.
[17:54] <socomm> IdleOne: are you mod?
[17:55] <IdleOne> socomm: if I wasn't would it make a difference?
[17:55] <larry_> llutz,  No command 'Ldd' found, did you mean:
[17:55] <larry_>  Command 'ldd' from package 'libc-bin' (main)
[17:55] <larry_>  Command 'dd' from package 'coreutils' (main)
[17:55] <socomm> IdleOne: asking
[17:55] <IdleOne> The channel guidelines apply either way.
[17:55] <yeats> larry_: 'ldd' needs to be all lowercase (like all commands)
[17:55] <llutz> larry_: "ldd $(which photoprint)"         without the quotes, case matters
[17:55] <socomm> larry_: case sensitive
[17:55] <TwinSwords> IdleOne: sorry about that I'm just having trouble with a sound card that doesn't like my Ubuntu.
[17:55] <t432> echo $JAVA_HOME is pointing to the wrong package, where do i edit this?
[17:56] <escott> t432, update-alternatives
[17:56] <t432> escott: i tried that
[17:56] <escott> t432, if not there /etc/profile
[17:57] <larry_> llutz, larry@larry-O-E-M:~$ ldd $ (which photoprint)
[17:57] <larry_> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[17:57] <larry_> larry@larry-O-E-M:~$
[17:57] <socomm> larry_: spaces .... $(which photoprint)
[17:58] <larry_> ok, but thi thing is apig to use, wont cut and paste from xchat
[17:58] <escott> larry_, pl eas e don' t a dd s pac es
[17:58] <socomm> larry_: pastebin
[17:58] <socomm> larry_: http://pastebin.com/
[17:58] <larry_> there is pages of the response
[17:59] <socomm> larry_: pastebin ....
[17:59] <llutz> !pastebinit | larry_
[17:59] <wildwind> larry_: OR sudo sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:00] <Rob1337> Hey, so, I recently installed Ubuntu 12.10 on a Gateway NV53a and when connected via wireless, my internet speeds are about 10% of what they should be or less. Speeds are normally 20mb/s in Win 7 or previous versions of Ubuntu, but 0.2-2mb/s and very unstable with 12.10. My wireless card is an Atheros  AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter.
[18:00] <Rob1337> How do I fix this?
[18:01] <larry_> is this ok?  http://pastebin.com/Uzmfz1N8
[18:01] <socomm> can anyone help me with this error? start: Unknown job: vboxautostart-service
[18:01] <Rob1337> Someone gave me a terminal command the other day that seemed to work temporarily, but things are back to the way they were now.
[18:01] <g0tcha> heya guys, is it possible for ubuntu server to have 2 gateways?
[18:01] <llutz> larry_: "uname -m"
[18:01] <socomm> larry_: how did you install this photoprint program
[18:02] <escott> g0tcha, not without bonding
[18:02] <larry_> downloaded it from ubuntu software manager
[18:02] <escott> g0tcha, at least as far as i know
[18:02] <bampersand> hey guys. I tried `fdupes -fr . | xargs mv -t ~/duplicates/
[18:02] <bampersand> ` but then it said "mv: cannot stat `Pack/04.Teach': No such file or directory
[18:02] <bampersand> " .. obviously i'm missing some quotes from the command but where?
[18:02] <larry_> socomm,  downloaded it from ubuntu software manager
[18:03] <llutz> larry_: "uname -m"
[18:03] <larry_> you might just as well be talking to me in chinese llutz ,,
[18:03] <llutz> larry_: a command, what is the output?
[18:03] <socomm> larry_: s/he is asking you to paste that into your terminal
[18:03] <socomm> larry_: and give him/her the output
[18:04] <wildwind> socomm: where is it?
[18:04] <larry_> thanks
[18:04] <socomm> wildwind: huh?
[18:04] <wildwind> error
[18:04] <socomm> wildwind: huh?
[18:04] <larry_> i686
[18:05] <wildwind> socomm: >>(23:01:19) socomm: can anyone help me with this error? start: Unknown job: vboxautostart-service
[18:05] <t432> escott: I dont see the $JAVA_HOME variable in /etc/profile
[18:05] <socomm> start vboxautostart-service - returns said error
[18:05] <t432> where is this defined?
[18:05] <Rob1337> Does anyone know how to get Ubuntu 12.10 to work correctly with  AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter?
[18:05] <larry_> llutz,  socomm   i686
[18:05] <wildwind> t432: .bashrc maybe?
[18:05] <llutz> larry_: command: "dpkg -L libgutenprint2|grep .so.2"
[18:06] <socomm> t432: /etc/environment?
[18:06] <t432> wildwind: thats where I have defined the desired version but when I do echo $JAVA_HOME, it points to a different version
[18:06] <escott> t432, did you try grep -r JAVA_HOME /etc
[18:07] <socomm> wildwind: start vboxautostart-service - returns said error
[18:07] <llutz> socomm: "start" is an upstart command, but your "vboxautostart-service" is a sysvinit job, not known by upstart
[18:07] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[18:07] <socomm> llutz: thats what I've gathered so far, how do I start this service at boot
[18:09] <larry_> llutz,  nothing seems to happen
[18:09] <larry_> just comes bck to command line
[18:09] <llutz> larry_: "sudo apt-get install libgutenprint2"
[18:10] <t432> escott: yep, no relevant files found
[18:10] <llutz> socomm: so why do you ask A if you want to know B?  if you set the sysmlink to the old /etc/rc?.d, there is an upstart-job running those. check if your links are correct
[18:10] <b1lly> hey so
[18:11] <b1lly> where do I install node?
[18:12] <larry_> llutz,  they are already installed, lates version
[18:12] <wildwind> socomm: VB version?
[18:12] <llutz> larry_: pstebin output of command: "dpkg -L libgutenprint2"
[18:13] <socomm> llutz: I've already checked those, and they are fine
[18:13] <puppy_parade> ubuntu server is failing to install. It errors out on dpkg
[18:13] <larry_> llutz,   trouble is photoprint is hard coded to look in usr/lib for thsi file and 12.04 puts it somewhere else
[18:13] <llutz> larry_: pstebin output of command: "dpkg -L libgutenprint2"
[18:13] <socomm> wildwind: 4.2.4, but I doubt it has to do anything with vbox
[18:13] <llutz> larry_: if so, you have to file a bug-report
[18:14] <socomm> puppy_parade: error?
[18:14] <puppy_parade> first about a bad key in the dpkg multiarch file "foreign-architecture". then about an unknown group, mlocate
[18:14] <escott> larry_, then symlink from the desired location to the actual location
[18:14] <larry_> it is a well known problem  i hoped someone had by now got a work around for it
[18:14] <socomm> puppy_parade: could you have bad copy/burn of the iso
[18:14] <puppy_parade> the md5 checks out, and this is multiple burns
[18:15] <llutz> larry_: "dpkg -L libgutenprint2" pastebin please
[18:15] <larry_> just google photoprint for ubuntu
[18:15] <llutz> i'm out
[18:15] <wildwind> socomm: check this out if everything described there is in place: http://lifeofageekadmin.com/how-to-set-your-virtualbox-vm-to-automatically-startup/
[18:16] <Guest9697> hi all
[18:16] <larry_> package pastebin not installed
[18:16] <socomm> wildwind: yeah
[18:16] <DOOMATES> hi Guest9697
[18:16] <larry_> llutz,  package pastebin not installed
[18:16] <Robertito> hi ppl
[18:17] <bekks> larry_: The package is named pastebinit
[18:17] <socomm> larry_: if you got the correct libraries installed, and I'm guessing you do
[18:17] <MaynardWaters> anyone with mdadm experience interested in helping me ?
[18:17] <bekks> MaynardWaters: Not without knowing your actual support problem. :)
[18:17] <socomm> larry_: I would look at just creating a symlink to the installed 'so' file to the file your program is expecting
[18:17] <socomm> larry_: this has worked for me 8 times out of 10
[18:18] <larry_> Package `pastebinit' is not installed.
[18:18] <larry_> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files
[18:18] <socomm> larry_: thats probably what I would have tried before spending 20 minutes pasting random commands into the terminal
[18:18] <bekks> larry_: Then install it.
[18:18] <llutz> socomm: but he still refuses to give the dpkg output so that one can give him the correct "ln-command"...
[18:18] <socomm> llutz: his problem
[18:18] <Guest9697> i have recently purchased a motherboard(ga-p75-d3p ) which have uefi....i have installed ubuntu 12.10 on this successfully but it can not boot for some reason. I have two SATA HDD(500gb and 1 tb).    any help?)
[18:19] <larry_> i can't find the file on my syatem. i have it on a memory stick
[18:19] <bekks> larry_: Which file?
[18:19] <socomm> wildwind: thanks for the help, I'm just gonna find a work around for this problem, don't feel like spending more time on it to make it work within upstart
[18:19] <larry_> bekks,  the file is installed, but somewhere different to where photo print is hard coded to look for it
[18:19] <Guest9697> i have recently purchased a motherboard(ga-p75-d3p ) which have uefi....i have installed ubuntu 12.10 on this successfully but it can not boot for some reason. I have two SATA HDD(500gb and 1 tb).    any help?)
[18:20] <socomm> larry_: huh?
[18:20] <bekks> larry_: WHICH file...?
[18:20] <larry_> gutenprint
[18:20] <bekks> larry_: And why dont you install pastebinit?
[18:20] <wildwind> socomm: OK
[18:20] <bekks> larry_: "gutenprint" is a package, not a single file.
[18:20] <escott> Guest9697, efi is a pain. are you booting efi or bios?
[18:20] <Squarepy> Guest9697, I would try a live usb and then boot-repair in efi mode
[18:20] <Guest9697> i think efi....how to change that?
[18:21] <Squarepy> worked for me
 how to do that?
[18:21] <larry_> bekks the single file it wants is libgutenprint.so.2
[18:21] <larry_> which i have
[18:21] <Guest9697> escott:i think efi....how to change that?
[18:21] <bekks> larry_: Why dont you install pastebinit?
[18:22] <escott> Guest9697, usually in the bios
 how to do that?
[18:22] <escott> Guest9697, one common problem is to boot the hard drives bios, but the usb sticks efi
[18:22] <Squarepy> well install boot-repair within the live usb OS then let it reinstall grub on the right HD, EFI mode enabled
[18:22] <larry_> this is first time i heard of it. just wanted a simple system that could print
[18:22] <llutz> larry_: output of command "locate libgutenprint.so.2" is?
[18:22] <bekks> larry_: And you were asked to pastebin some output. Why dont you install pastebinit then, to do so?
[18:23] <Guest9697> usb booting is ok(i'm in that roight now) ....but after installing the system cant load
[18:23] <Guest9697> escott:usb booting is ok(i'm in that roight now) ....but after installing the system cant load
[18:23] <escott> Guest9697, i get that the usb boots, but it is a efi usb boot or a bios usb boot
[18:23] <larry_> because i am on dialup, and things are not so easy
[18:23] <escott> Guest9697, the efi system can emulate a bios boot and may do different things for different boot devices
[18:24] <Guest9697> escott:   how to check that?
[18:24] <bekks> larry_: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" IS easy, and it is a small package.
[18:24] <escott> Guest9697, which confuses the installer which doesn't realize that an installed system boots differently from the way the installer booted
[18:25] <larry_> i put it onpaste bin for you it is here as i said before http://pastebin.com/Uzmfz1N8
[18:25] <llutz> larry_: its not
[18:25] <llutz> larry_: output of command "locate libgutenprint.so.2" is?
[18:26] <Guest9697> escott: and i have twd hdd......is it cresating the problem?
[18:26] <llutz> larry_: please stop waisting our time, if you want help please do what you're told to do and give the information we need
[18:26] <escott> Guest9697, maybe. did you enable any intel raid?
[18:26] <Guest9697> escott: NOPE
[18:27] <larry_> llutz,  there is no output for that command
[18:27] <escott> larry_, run "updatedb" then try it again
[18:27] <llutz> larry_: sudo updatedb, then again please
[18:27] <larry_> but it taked a lot of time to work my way from screen to screen on this
[18:28] <larry_> response is updatedb: can not open a temporary file for `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db'
[18:28] <escott> larry_, i left out the "sudo" needs to be "sudo updatedb"
[18:29] <larry_> ok
[18:29] <scott_w> yo, does anyone have any experience with the apple magic mouse + ubuntu?
[18:29] <scott_w> i'm assuming i'd need a bluetooth adapter for it
[18:30] <larry_> still does nothing from the locate command
[18:30] <llutz> larry_: maybe this works  "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.3 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.2"  then try running photoprint again
[18:30] <wildwind> larry_: show apt-cache policy libgutenprint2
[18:31] <llutz> libgutenprint2 comes with /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.3  now, not .2
[18:31] <scott_w> basically, i'm thinking of getting my mum one, but i'd like to know if it works before splashing the cash
[18:31] <larry_> that wont help the filee libgutenprint is NOT in the usr/lib directory
[18:31] <wildwind> llutz: oh sorry
[18:31] <llutz> wildwind: i just realized that looking at ubuntus packagelist
[18:31] <larry_> which is why I asked on Monday how to copy a file into the lib directory
[18:32] <llutz> larry_: where did you get the file from?
[18:32] <larry_> my 10.1 system
[18:33] <wildwind> llutz: but wait on quantal photoprint depends on libgutenprint2
[18:33] <llutz> wildwind: seems to be a bug in photoprint
[18:33] <larry_> my belief was if i could copythe file into the usr/lib directory it might work
[18:34] <bekks> larry_: And currently you are on 12.04?
[18:34] <larry_> yes it is, photoprint is hard coded to look for the file in the one place
[18:34] <llutz> larry_: try it: sudo /media/whereveryourusbis/libgutenprint.so.2   /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/"
[18:34] <sudipta> escott:hi ......the usb is booting in uefi mode...just checked
[18:34] <llutz> larry_: its not, its looking for the WRONG file
[18:34] <larry_> i am building anew machine with winxp and ubuntu. i chose toinstall 12.04 and i think that was amistake
[18:35] <escott> sudipta, how about the hard drives?
[18:35] <bekks> XP was the mistake, thats not supported anymore ;)
[18:35] <sudipta> escott, did not checked
[18:35] <sudipta> escott:
[18:36] <llutz> photoprint depends on libgutenprint2 (>= 5.2.7) but wants libgutenprint.so.2  which is not part of that package
[18:36] <larry_> i can't find the libgutenprint.so.2/3 on the 12.04 machine, neither can locate
[18:37] <sudipta> escott: do u think booting from dvd will help?
[18:37] <llutz> larry_: try it: "sudo cp /media/whereveryourusbis/libgutenprint.so.2   /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/"
[18:38] <larry_> literally type in wherever yourusbis ???
[18:38] <llutz> larry_: you need to mount your usb with that file before and replace the /media/... path
[18:38] <wildwind> llutz, larry_: on my (almost) clean 12.10 photoprint installed and started OK, requiring only /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.2
[18:38] <llutz> wildwind: dpkg -S  /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.2
[18:39] <wildwind> llutz: libgutenprint2: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.2
[18:39] <sudipta> escott: do u think booting from dvd will help?
[18:39] <llutz> wildwind: odd, why isn't it in the file list of the package, is it just a symlink?
[18:39] <larry_> llutz,  this is going to take me a while to type
[18:39] <escott> sudipta, without knowing the actual cause its hard to say
[18:40] <wildwind> or when it tries to load lib, maybe when actually printing?
[18:40] <sudipta> escott, wait thene be back after a reboot
[18:40] <larry_> wildwind,  I know what it wants, I dont know how to give that
[18:41] <wildwind> larry_: when your photoprint fails, on start?
[18:41] <larry_> the worst thing is i cant have both screens up atthe same time so i can copy
[18:41] <larry_> it wont run, error is it cant find gutenprint
[18:42] <llutz> wildwind: ls -l /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.2
[18:43] <wildwind> llutz:  /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.2 -> libgutenprint.so.2.1.0
[18:43] <sheikhmak> hey guys, I have this laptop that I sort of use like a server with GUI, But I'm fed up of unity, it is abysmally slow. any quick and dirty ui. I'm even using unity 2d btw with compiz off
[18:43] <auronandace> !lubuntu | sheikhmak
[18:43] <llutz> wildwind: ah, they changed it back to so.2 in quantal, so more a libgutenprint-gub
[18:43] <llutz> bugg
[18:44] <wildwind> larry_: try apt-get purge photoprint libgutenprint2, then apt-get install photoprint
[18:44] <llutz>  http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/precise/i386/libgutenprint2/filelist
[18:46] <Sivik> what is the best way to convert a video from mkv to avi?  the ways I have been trying either speed the fps up or kill the arudio
[18:46] <Sivik> audio*
[18:47] <sheikhmak> auronandace thx
[18:48] <wildwind> Sivik: try HandBrake
[18:48] <Sivik> wildwind, i will if this ffmpeg doesn't work.
[18:48] <larry_> llutz, wildwind  response was cp: cannot stat `/media/IF58-70D4/libgutenprint.so.2': No such file or directory
[18:48] <larry_> larry@larry-O-E-M:~$
[18:48] <larry_> will try letter O
[18:48] <wildwind> larry_: try apt-get purge photoprint libgutenprint2, then apt-get install photoprint
[18:49] <myhero> i want to report  bug....how to do it ?
[18:49] <llutz> wildwind: that won't help if photoprint really wants libgutenprint.so.2", which is not part of libgutenprint2 in precise  http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/precise/i386/libgutenprint2/filelist
[18:50] <jrib> !bug | myhero
[18:50] <wildwind> larry_: are you on precise?
[18:50] <larry_> yes 12.04  and it is a mess
[18:51] <myhero> jrib: 12.10 ubuntu live usb is not booting at all on HP Pavilion g6 series laptop.....however same usb is working fine on other dell laptop !
[18:52] <llutz> larry_:  "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.3 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.2"  then try running photoprint again
[18:52] <ReAzem> My samba passwords don't sync with the unix ones... What could be causing this? I have the option enabled in smb.conf
[18:53] <larry_> there is no i386 file in usr/lib
[18:53] <babak> anybody here?
[18:54] <babak> question about pptp
[18:54] <wildwind> llutz, larry_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/photoprint/+bug/971415
[18:54] <llutz> larry_: "ls -l /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.3"
[18:54] <babak> help! F1 F1
[18:54] <myhero> jrib: is that a bug ? at all ?
[18:54] <llutz> wildwind: thats amd64 but seem to apply to i386 too
[18:54] <Rob1337> I recently installed Ubuntu 12.10, and when using wireless my internet is much slower and less stable than it should be. around 1mb/s rather than the 20mb/s i normally get. My wireless card is a Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter. How do I fix this?
[18:55] <larry_> thanks, i have found the file
[18:55] <DJones> babak: You haven't asked your question yet, so people don't know if they can help
[18:55] <DJones> !ask | babak
[18:55] <Catbuntu> ohai
[18:55] <danley> Rob1337, did you check your signal levels? sometimes 5GHz make problems for me because the signal goes a lot worse through walls and stuff.
[18:55] <myhero> jrib: and when 12.10 installed on system.....wifi is still not working with broadcom wifi card
[18:56] <larry_> this will take me some time to type.. but now you have found the file hopefully it eill work soon as i rename it
[18:56] <Rob1337> How do I check signal levels?
[18:56] <babak> MPPE required but not available" thats my problem i can't connect to pptp server with encryption and mschap2
[18:56] <myhero> jrib: there was probelms with broadcom cards before also....
[18:56] <llutz> larry_: you don't rename it, create a symlink!
[18:56] <babak> I use ubuntu 12.04 lts and it is updatet!
[18:56] <danley> Rob1337, the easiest way I'm aware is to type "iwconfig" in the command lien
[18:57] <wildwind> larry_: reason to upgrade, if we forget about your dialup for a second :)
[18:57] <escott> llutz, patience of a saint
[18:57] <babak> uname -a==>3.2.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 10:48:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:57] <Rob1337> danley: "Frequency:2.437 GHz"
[18:57] <danley> and signal level?
[18:57] <jrib> myhero: sorry, I can't help right now
[18:58] <myhero> jrib: np
[18:58] <Rob1337> danley:  Signal level=-55 dBm
[18:58] <danley> hmm, that should be fine.
[18:59] <Rob1337> My computer is dual-booted, and internet works fine in windows 7. whatever it is, it's related to ubuntu.
[18:59] <danley> I assume you don't get lots of missed beacons, invalid packets and stuff
[18:59] <myhero> anyone with help n ftp ? i installed vsftpd and can dwnload files from it to mobile over wifi but cant upload files to daemon ? and its fast then openssh-server tranfer speeds....is ftp faster than ssh ?
[18:59] <myhero> on
[19:00] <danley> Rob1337, have you tried this: http://pleph.appspot.com/init/posts/view/2657865 ?
[19:00] <Rob1337> danley: here's a pastebin of iwconfig http://pastebin.com/6Vpe4dzg and I will check out that now
[19:00] <escott> myhero, it doesnt encrypt which might slow down a weakly powered device like a phone
[19:01] <wildwind> myhero: any errors on upload?
[19:01] <myhero> escott: hmm...ok....but y i m not able to upload to ftp ? when download is quick
[19:02] <myhero> wildwind: yes.....downloading is fine on ftp but uploading isn't happening at all....anything with settings in vsftpd.conf ?
[19:03] <Noskcaj> ERMAGERD Floodbot 2 is gone
[19:03] <myhero> escott: what if i don't excrypt over ssh ? is that allowed ?
[19:03] <wildwind> myhero: what client in your phone says when you try to uload?
[19:04] <larry_> llutz,  i typed this in as you asked  sudo ln -s usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.3 usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.2
[19:04] <escott> myhero, its rather non-standard and also weakens your ssh server (because they share the same set of protocols)
[19:04] <Rob1337> K, danley, I will reboot and see how things are
[19:04] <wildwind> myhero: also check logs on server
[19:04] <babak> کسی اینجا هست کمک کنه!
[19:04] <larry_> llutz,  and got this ln: failed to create symbolic link `usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint.so.2': No such file or directory
[19:04] <myhero> wildwind: 1min....i'll upload again and return with error msg...btw its file expert app on android 2.3.6 gingerbread
[19:04] <escott> larry_, you need a "/" in front of "usr/lib...
[19:05] <larry_> thanks escott
[19:05] <myhero> wildwind: how to check logs and 1 more problem.....i typed ftp in terminal and there was ftp> then i tried to mkdir ~/Desktop/something but it said permission denied....y ?
[19:05] <babak> F1-help
[19:06] <bobo37773> Possible to pipe rtmpdump to smplayer instead of mplayer??
[19:06] <wildwind> larry_: see last comment here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/photoprint/+bug/260849 and double-check
[19:06] <larry_> IT works  :)
[19:07] <wildwind> myhero: ftp doesn't know ~
[19:07] <babak> I am using ubutnu 12.04 and I have problem with PPTP VPN
[19:07] <larry_> wildwind,  i found that a week ago, but it did not help
[19:07] <bekks> myhero: "ftp" starts a ftp shell.
[19:08] <Rob1337> danley, I did as instructed in the link you sent, wireless connection is still slow
[19:08] <Sivik> i'm not seeing an option in handbrake to convert to avi
[19:08] <Sivik> mkv or mp4 are my only options
[19:08] <myhero> wildwind: i also tried ftp> mkdir /home/user/Desktop/dir again permission denied bekks
[19:08] <babak> MPPE required, but MS-CHAP[v2] auth not performed. [19:08] <wildwind> myhero: connect to your ftp server from laptop or from server itself and try to upload
[19:08] <danley> Rob1337, you even did the modprobe part?
[19:09] <bekks> myhero: Thats not how mkdir works in ftp.
[19:09] <wildwind> myhero: do it with default file manager
[19:09] <babak> pppd version 2.4.5
[19:09] <myhero> bekks: what am i doing wrong ? and whats the orrect way ?
[19:09] <myhero> correct*
[19:09] <danley> after the restart, that is Rob1337
[19:09] <llutz> larry_: you missed the leading /
[19:09] <babak> filename:       /lib/modules/3.2.0-34-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ppp/ppp_mppe.ko
[19:09] <babak> version:        1.0.2
[19:09] <babak> alias:          ppp-compress-18
[19:09] <babak> license:        Dual BSD/GPL
[19:09] <babak> description:    Point-to-Point Protocol Microsoft Point-to-Point Encryption support
[19:09] <babak> author:         Frank Cusack <fcusack@fcusack.com>
[19:09] <babak> srcversion:     6A5CE8D947D7C37F9EBE4B7
[19:09] <larry_> thanks llutz
[19:09] <babak> depends:
[19:09] <babak> intree:         Y
[19:09] <babak> vermagic:       3.2.0-34-generic SMP mod_unload modversions
[19:09] <FloodBot1> babak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:10] <bekks> myhero: create the directory using your file manager.
[19:10] <Rob1337> oh, it said "reboot or run these commands" for the last for commands there, so I just rebooted. Should I run those 4 commands now?
[19:10] <myhero> bekks: but mkdir ommand is also given in ftp....so how to use it ?
[19:10] <larry_> llutz,  it would help alot if i could cut and paste from one application to another
[19:10] <danley> you can try. if that doesn't help I'm not sure what causes the problem.
[19:10] <larry_> but xchat wont allow it
[19:11] <llutz> larry_: well, xchat does that fine here
[19:11] <larry_> so i have  type it all in, and change screens between each  app
[19:11] <escott> larry_, there are two cut buffers in linux. highlighting is sufficient to get something in the first buffer
[19:11] <myhero> bekks: also i learned ftp and ssh but what about ftps ? same method or anything different and plz name any daemon for ftps
[19:11] <Rob1337> danley, do i need to reboot now?
[19:11] <escott> larry_, you can then paste with either middle click or for some applications a standard paste operations
[19:12] <myhero> wildwind: ^^
[19:12] <danley> after those 4 commands? no
[19:12] <escott> myhero, ftps is going to be just as slow as sftp
[19:12] <Rob1337> k. i'll disconnect lan cable and try a speedtest again then.
[19:12] <wildwind> larry_: ls -la /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgutenprint*
[19:12] <myhero> escott: ftp is fast but sftp is very slow
[19:12] <danley> Rob1337, the network card tiself sets the speed to 1mbps, so it thinks the connection can't handle more
[19:12] <llutz> myhero: ftps is ftp over ssl, i.e vsftpd can be used as server
[19:13] <larry_> thanks for that tip escott  never knew it and it is not intuitive as i have never used the middle button before
[19:13] <escott> myhero, yes.. because of the encryption and the slow processor in your phone
[19:13] <dante123> hi all, ran updates yesterday and now cannot login to default unity.....login loop....only using gnome classic or another window manager will get me into gui...otherwise I get kicked back out to login screen HELP
[19:13] <myhero> llutz: how to configure vsftpd for ssl ?
[19:13] <dante123> I think it is a graphics issue....any suggestions?
[19:14] <roasted> hello!
[19:14] <tux-world> after create live from ubuntu i getting this error and live could not up in VmWare : http://upcity.ir/images/87450719236957894657.png
[19:14] <Rob1337> danny, lol, it's like it half worked. i got 7mb/s, which is better than the 1 or 2 mb/s i have been getting, but not near the 20 mb/s i should be getting
[19:14] <larry_> did that wildwind
[19:14] <escott> myhero, you are driving me crazy. why would you ask about ftps when your complaint is slow transfers
[19:14] <roasted> Still unable to shut down without needing root :(
[19:14] <larry_> but have aleady tested photoprint and it now runs
[19:14] <myhero> escott: i want to learn :)
[19:14] <llutz> myhero: http://beginlinux.com/server_training/ftp-server/990-secure-ftp-with-ssl-and-ubuntu-804
[19:15] <llutz> myhero: should be still the same even it the howto is old
[19:15] <danley> at least something. some say you can use mad-wifi to increase the speed on atheros cards, but I don't own one so never tried it
[19:15] <plk_> hi
[19:15] <wildwind> myhero: do you really need it? it will encrypt, by the same phone cpu
[19:15] <dante123> if I start say Google chrome or Steam client for linux....get kicked back out to login screen
[19:15] <danley> so http://madwifi-project.org/ is the last thing I can suggest
[19:15] <danley> other than that I'm clueless as well
[19:15] <Rob1337> danley, tested again, something like 0.15 mb/s... -_-
[19:16] <wildwind> larry_: show
[19:16] <myhero> wildwind: i wanted to tranfer some file yesterday so i did it for the 1st time in my life...sftp ssh etc it was pain in start but its not then a minute now....so i wanna learn all variants :) but nothing serious work now maybe something in future
[19:16] <roasted> I don't understand. I have "jason ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown" in my sudoers file, yet Jason still cannot power the system off without being root. Is this line incorrect??
[19:16] <Sivik> wildwind, handbrake no longer supports avi
[19:17] <wildwind> myhero: then read guides and experiment
[19:17] <danley> maybe state your problem again here and someone else will pick it up, Rob1337. I don't know anything else...
[19:17] <myhero> wildwind: yea...just guide me to easy understandable good guides :0
[19:17] <myhero> :)
[19:17] <plk_> i'm trying to install backtrack based on ubuntu 10.04, but it freezes when it says "Checking battery state [OK]"
[19:17] <myhero> llutz: thnx
[19:18] <llutz> !backtrack | plk_
[19:18] <wildwind> Sivik: oh, didn't know that
[19:18] <lurk1> hey all, I have 4 desktops, but want to have 9. What can I do? I din't find anything in the system settings
[19:18] <phobosz> Hello, I develop with c++ under ubuntu/linux mint with codeblocks and latetly I have been trying to import projects from visual studio 2012.. sadly it's a pain in the ass, importing whole projects isn't working and copy&paste the files is also a pain because the compiler under codeblocks has always something to nag about! Is there a better IDE for c++ for linux that can handle this better?
[19:18] <dante123> hi all, ran updates yesterday and now cannot login to default unity.....login loop....only using gnome classic or another window manager will get me into gui...otherwise I get kicked back out to login screen HELP
[19:19] <dante123> some apps will also kick me back to login screen.  Any suggestions?
[19:19] <emx> is wuala available on 12.10?
[19:19] <myhero> how to connect 2 comps. or 2 devices with router and transfer files both ways ?
[19:19] <Rob1337> Ok. If there's anyone else around who can help: When in windows 7, or connected with a LAN cable in Ubuntu 12.10, my internet speeds are about 20mb/s. when connected via wireless in 12.10 though, speeds are unstable and average around 1 or 2 mb/s. My laptop in a Gateway NV53a and the wireless card is an Atheros AR9287.
[19:19] <wildwind> Sivik: then ffmpeg or mencoder or avidemux (GUI). It's all using ffmpeg lib
[19:20] <wildwind> lurk1: quantal?
[19:20] <lurk1> wildwind: what does this mean? i have ubuntu 12.10
[19:20] <emx> Rob1337, how far are you from your access point?
[19:21] <wildwind> lurk1: It is Quantal Quetzal
[19:21] <Rob1337> Not sure exactly, I live in a basement apartment and the landlord upstairs provides the internet. I get the full 20 mb/s with wireless in windows 7 though, so I'm pretty sure the problem is with Ubuntu, not the connection itself.
[19:22] <lurk1> wildwind: ok, so what can i do? A shortcut, that should change to dekstop Nr. 5 and up does not work. Where can I add Desktops?
[19:22] <talis62> hello everyone!
[19:22] <llutz> roasted: did you add that line to the _end_ of the sudoers-file?
[19:23] <lurk1> hej talis62!
[19:23] <talis62> hey lurk1
[19:23] <wildwind> lurk1: There are little settings (for simplicity). Install compizconfig-settings-manager but use it with caution.
[19:23] <myhero> llutz: escott wildwind how to connect 2 laptops using router and transfer files both ways ?
[19:24] <prashant_123456> how to change splash screen in ubuntu 12.04
[19:24] <lurk1> ok, thx wildwind! i'll try
[19:24] <escott> myhero, why would the router come into it?
[19:24] <llutz> myhero: samba, nfs, sshfs, sftp, scp, ftp, ftps, netcat, ....
[19:24] <phobosz> Noone has an idea for me?
[19:25] <myhero> llutz: means server/client model ?? or there is any other way ?
[19:25] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[19:25] <Rob1337> k, i'm out for now. i'll see if askubuntu or anyone else here has any ideas in a little bit.
[19:26] <myhero> escott: i have a wifi router now but previously i had a router with 1 usb and 1 eth port and may times i had big files to transfer found myself helpless in doing so with router :(
[19:26] <ecart> seednode
[19:26] <ecart> hello
[19:26] <ecart> there?
[19:26] <myhero> escott: ppl ask me and its embarassing when they rely upon me and i have to say NO :(
[19:27] <wildwind> myhero: you can start reading from here http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html
[19:27] <myhero> wildwind: thnx
[19:28] <emx> can i install a .deb file?
[19:28] <ecart> o.o
[19:28] <yhw> Hello YBook
[19:28] <ecart> emx yes, you can!
[19:29] <myhero> how to print current session ? or save it ?
[19:29] <Viralfrost> emx 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:29] <myhero> wildwind: escott llutz ^^
[19:29] <JohnGalt> test
[19:29] <u01010> I have problem with pptp
[19:29] <lurk1> wildwind: thanks, works perfekt!
[19:29] <myhero> sudo -E -G -i *.deb is what i do
[19:30] <wildwind> myhero: try Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C, paste to gedit
[19:30] <myhero> wildwind: any command ?
[19:30] <Freeaqingme> hi. I'm trying to configure dhcp + ddns (through bind9). Problem I have is that a clients hostname is clientname.vlan.example.com, and the dns entry added is clientname.vlan.example.com.example.com , How can I prevent the entire fqdn getting prefixed?
[19:31] <emx> Viralfrost, thanks
[19:31] <wildwind> myhero: are you in xchat?
[19:32] <myhero> wildwind: i generally use irssi but currently i m on webchat in firefox
[19:32] <wildwind> well firefox can print and save
[19:32] <myhero> i tried but its only printing page but not text witnin
[19:33] <myhero> within*
[19:33] <JohnGalt> test
[19:33] <wildwind> myhero: then >> try Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C, paste to gedit
[19:34] <myhero> thats manual....anyways np
[19:34] <emx> Viralfrost, is the package installed at a special path or is it integrated in the system like any other package? can i remove it again? do i need the original .deb file for that?
[19:34] <prawnsalad> myhero: which webchat are you using?
[19:35] <myhero> prawnsalad: webchat.freenode.net in firefox
[19:36] <myhero> wildwind: wifi is not working on any versions of ubuntu......HP Pavilion G6 series laptop with Broadcom wifi card
[19:36] <Viralfrost> emx, it should be installed in the regular system information /usr/bin or /usr/sbin i think, not sure about removing it, probably can do it from synaptic?
[19:37] <myhero> wildwind: i mean i have tested it on 11.10 12.04 12.04.1 and 12.10 but its working fine in win7
[19:38] <IdleOne> !broadcom | myhero
[19:38] <myhero> IdleOne: yea BCM 4313 i think so
[19:39] <IdleOne> myhero: follow that link, it should explain how to proceed
[19:40] <bekks> !ir > bekks
[19:40] <myhero> IdleOne: yea...i tried my before...hope it works this time...it will be good for me and if any error then will reutrn with them...
[19:41] <myhero> many*
[19:42] <Lawliet9> Salut
[19:42] <JohnGalt> bonjour
[19:43] <Lawliet9> Il y a des français par ici ?
[19:43] <JohnGalt> oui
[19:43] <JohnGalt> ca va
[19:43] <DJones> !fr | Lawliet9
[19:43] <JohnGalt> merde
[19:44] <Lawliet9> Salut JohnGalt on m'a envoyé un message disant que le canal est en anglais uniquement.
[19:44] <Lawliet9> Sa craint !
[19:44] <aaas> is there an nfs browser/ commandthat can browse the network  I just want to be able to see what servers have shares using 'nfs://' sort of like how xbmc does it
[19:45] <bekks> aaas: No, there isnt.
[19:45] <aaas> bekks any idea how xbmc does it?
[19:46] <bekks> aaas: I never used xbmc.
[19:46] <aaas> bekks well or natilus or any of the other file managers
[19:47] <bekks> aaas: You could try connecting to each server, and analyse trhe RPC messages.
[19:48] <aaas> bekks yeah there has to be an easier way... all the file managers have this feature it would be strange to have have a cli way of doing it
[19:48] <bekks> aaas: There is no easier way, since NFSdoes not advertise itself.
[19:49] <aaas> bekks hmmm... yeah maybe it would take a script, but it must be possible
[19:49] <bekks> aaas: Itr is possible, but not with a predefined command.
[19:50] <Macuser> Does Ubuntu come pre-installed with the Java JDK and JRE?
[19:50] <aaas> bekks not even with a long one? ;)
[19:50] <bekks> aaas: Nope. Only with a self-written script :)
[19:52] <Phaba> hello guys, im wondering what logging system i can use to try and figure out why i get random lags on ubuntu, generally its smooth but its gets laggy wondering if its a specific library or function call or a specific application or my general env
[19:53] <lorenx> hi all. i have a custom kernel running and i've just install the nvidia-current package. but apt-get gives me this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1419541
[19:54] <lorenx> can someone give me an hint to investigate please?
[19:54] <escott> Phaba, what apps are you using when it starts to lag
[19:54] <wildwind> Phaba: video driver is the problem,  most frequently
[19:54] <bekks> lorenx: I cant see an error in your paste.
[19:55] <lorenx> bekks: lines 37 and 38 ;)
[19:55] <bekks> lorenx: Ah. I got it. Minimal headers are not enough.
[19:55] <Phaba> escott, nothing in particular perhaps chronium, but could be switching between any 2 programs or browsing folders, anything really. wildwind, what can be done about it?? i have the vendor driver
[19:55] <lorenx> bekks: excuse me, could you explin me better please? :)
[19:55] <bekks> lorenx: Seems like you do not have a full set of kernel headers.
[19:55] <escott> Phaba, next time check the output of "free -m" and see if you are using swap
[19:56] <Phaba> i am
[19:56] <lorenx> bekks: i don't know, i've just compiled my custom kernel...
[19:56] <Phaba> i have small ram anyway but my swap isnt full
[19:56] <lorenx> what do i need more
[19:56] <Phaba> 1gb ram, swap is same
[19:57] <heoyea> MeanEYE: fresh install, humm hope u learn ur lesson lols
[19:57] <Phaba> but ram is like 90% used, swap is 60
[19:57] <escott> Phaba, when you alt-tab the first application has to be written to disk so the second can be read back to ram. that will introduce a lag. go spend $25 to buy yourself some more ram
[19:58] <Phaba> escott, okay makes sense, ty
[19:58] <asido> any danish people here? what does "sikkehed" means? :)
[19:59] <Phaba> escott, is there anything that will cause ubuntu to progressively slow down?
[20:01] <escott> Phaba, a memory leak will slowly fill the memory causing more and more time to be spent swapping stuff out
[20:02] <Phaba> how would i find it? i have valgrind
[20:02] <escott> Phaba, valgrind program... but I would not attempt that on an underpowered system
[20:03] <lorenx> bekks: do i just need to pass kernel_headers too to make-kpkg?
[20:05] <DrGrov> Evening. I am running 10.04 and experiencing some strange icon issues with KDE 4.x. It seems like the icons do not change completely in every program even though I am using the default KDE icons pack.
[20:05] <DrGrov> I changed the icons various times and tried again but always the same issue. Especially looks strange within LibreOffice, makes it very hard to see anything.
[20:05] <Phaba> escott, yeh, no; i wouldnt know where to start with valgrind, ill just use system monitor to close processes with high ram usage. out of curiosity, would i have to valgrind everything in my ps aux output??
[20:05] <Phaba> to find out if some app / daemon has a memory leak
[20:06] <escott> Phaba, running valgrind on everything is going to be a mess
[20:06] <trism> lorenx: packages from make-kpkg are a bit strange in that they will create links to the source directory unless it is not present when the kernel is installed, so if you built the image/header packages, installed them and then removed the source directory you might have trouble
[20:06] <escott> Phaba, your system has too little ram. just buy some more
[20:07] <trism> lorenx: or the problem I often have is that I build the kernel on a separate partition that may not be mounted when nvidia builds the module
[20:07] <Phaba> okay, i plan on upgrading to some serious hardware soon but im just curious as how i'd find if i am currently running something with a memory leak, i suppose eventually it'll kill any PC
[20:07] <DrGrov> My second question is that is how do I change the various official repos of 10.04 to some international ones? Seems like the Finnish ones are down and I can not get any updates. Any easy way to keep a good sources list?
[20:07] <yeats> Phaba: you should try using Xubuntu/Lubuntu IMHO
[20:08] <Phaba> i have lubuntu
[20:08] <yeats> Phaba: oh - you're using lubuntu now?
[20:08] <Phaba> and gnome 2d
[20:08] <yeats> Phaba: 1GB should be fine for lubuntu
[20:08] <Phaba> right now im on unity but on lubuntu its the same, i think chronium just steals to much ram
[20:09] <escott> Phaba, programs under valgrind are substantially slower. painfully slower. its not something you just run a program with
[20:09] <Phaba> either that or i have a memory leak, i rarely re-boot
[20:09] <lorenx> trism: i'm not sure to be able to follow you :D ... i'm just going to try something... thanks ;)
[20:09] <Phaba> escott, i was wondering if it were possible to run each program in series not concurrent
[20:10] <Phaba> so i could just tick them off 1 by 1
[20:10] <MadsRC> Hi guys! I ran into some wierd permission problem. I've got 2 disks pooled into one directory with aufs in say /mnt/storage. But for some reason I can't create new files in it, unless I'm root... Permissions for /mnt/storage is 770 (rwxrwx---) myuser users
[20:10] <MadsRC> Can anyone help me with that?
[20:10] <trism> lorenx: oh wait, I know what the problem is, that was 295 nvidia right? (I lost the pastebin)
[20:10] <yeats> Phaba: 1) open a terminal and type 'top' 2) open each program you normally use in turn and check top for memory use/swapping
[20:11] <trism> lorenx: you need to get 304.xx from the x-updates ppa (or elsewhere) if you want to use a 3.5 kernel
[20:11] <escott> MadsRC, what does "touch /mnt/storage" say
[20:11] <MadsRC> escott, that gives no output
[20:12] <trism> lorenx: also of note, linux-lts-backport-quantal is in 12.04 already so you may not need to build your own if you can use the default config
[20:12] <escott> MadsRC, then it created the fie
[20:12] <Phaba> yeats, cheers, is there a way to get 'top' to order in ram usage instead of cpu?
[20:12] <wildwind> DrGrov: show your current sources.list
[20:12] <escott> MadsRC, sorry "touch /mnt/Storage/test"
[20:12] <MadsRC> Sorry, I waswrong, The permission error is within a directory in /mnt/storage, say /mnt/storage/deluge
[20:13] <MadsRC> touch /mnt/storage/deluge returns apermission error
[20:13] <Phaba> .ruby.bin has 11% of my ram?? :/
[20:13] <wildwind> Phaba: Shift+'>'
[20:13] <Phaba> i dont even program in ruby, something is calling it alot??
[20:13] <MadsRC> and that folder is 775 anotheruser groupthatmyuserispartof
[20:14] <notk0> hello
[20:14] <notk0> I have installed ncurses but there is no shared libary
[20:14] <notk0> that is found
[20:14] <escott> MadsRC, verify that your user is in that group with "groups"
[20:14] <notk0> libncurses.so.5 => not found
[20:14] <notk0> from ldd
[20:14] <Phaba> wildwind, thanks, .ruby.bin is using the most though ive never used it personally, chrome is second with 2 threads running 7% each which is standard i guess
[20:14] <wildwind> Phaba: or better Shift+'<' 4 times, if your'e looking for mem leaks
[20:14] <MadsRC> what is "groups" supposed to output?
[20:15] <escott> MadsRC, the groups you are a member of
[20:16] <MadsRC> doesn't output thegroup, though /etc/group lists me as being in it
[20:16] <escott> MadsRC, when did you add yourself to the group and how
[20:16] <MadsRC> 10 minutesago, with usermod something... lemme find the string
[20:17] <escott> MadsRC, logout and log back in
[20:17] <MadsRC> now it showsthe right groups!
[20:17] <escott> MadsRC, group membership and environment variables often take a logout
[20:20] <MadsRC> escott, Thank you :) Now I just need to get deluge to accept me adding the ubuntu torrent... For some reason it gives permission error when adding it, even though it is owner of the whole /mnt/storage/deluge/ folder. Maybe the deluge user just need to login and logout
[20:21] <escott> MadsRC, i bet you own the file in the deluge folder. you need to setgid on the deluge folder
[20:21] <MadsRC> escott, I use the deluge webui to add the ubuntu torrent, so it should be owned by the deluge user
[20:24] <Shirakawasuna> I'm running into an issue with backlight brightness on a new laptop - lenovo ideapad s300. It uses Intel GMA graphics, specifically '2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)' (intel i915). My issue is this: I can't turn the brightness up to the max that I can in windows 8 - it hits ~half max brightness. In /sys/driver/backlight/acpi_0 max_brightness and brightness are both 15 and it's not a
[20:24] <Shirakawasuna>  matter of hotkeys. It just doesn't, by default, make it possible to turn the brightness up high enough.
[20:25] <Shirakawasuna> Any ideas on how to work around this? I'm upgrading the kernel right now (default updates) and have been looking at the tweaks here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight
[20:25] <Shirakawasuna> This is a gift laptop for a relative and I want it to be properly-ubuntuified in advance
[20:26] <escott> Shirakawasuna, the kernel doesnt think it can go any higher
[20:27] <Shirakawasuna> yeah
[20:28] <Shirakawasuna> my plan of attack was to look for BIOS updates just in case (none available), upgrade the kernel (in progress), and mess with those grub kernel settings suggested on the arch wiki
[20:28] <escott> Shirakawasuna, its a problem with the acpi tables
[20:29] <DrGrov> wildwind: Yes, will do. Sorry for taking quite some time to answer.
[20:30] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[20:31] <DrGrov> wildwind: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1419626/
[20:31] <TwistTheNeil> hi, if i'm going to securely erase my hdd, would anyone suggest /dev/zero or shred ? or a combo ?
[20:31] <Shirakawasuna> escott: is there a general approach for troubleshooting that?
[20:31] <Frederick> guys ive installed ubuntu in a vmware with 1 gb ram but obviusly with the default window manager it is slow as hell do you tihnk 2gb ram can maje the vm oki?>
[20:31] <escott> Shirakawasuna, there are various acpi options that do things like tell the kernel to lie to the bios and claim it is windows etc...
[20:31] <JohnGalt> TwistTheNeil: dban
[20:32] <MadsRC> escott, setgid is done with chown g-s folder right? Doing that, every new file under deluge/ should have the same owner and group right?
[20:32] <JohnGalt> Frederick: no it's about the gfx card emulation, try to enable 3D
[20:32] <TwistTheNeil> how long would it take with dban ?
[20:32] <JohnGalt> TwistTheNeil: days.
[20:32] <JohnGalt> but that's a secure 7x erase which is CIA proof
[20:32] <TwistTheNeil> i'm in university and don't have too much time :(
[20:33] <TwistTheNeil> at most a couple of hours
[20:33] <JohnGalt> you can set dban to do a less intensive secure erase
[20:33] <TwistTheNeil> okay
[20:33] <Frederick> Joah: thanks for the info I will restart virtualbox in some mins and do it
[20:33] <Frederick> JohnGalt: I mean
[20:33] <Frederick> *meant
[20:33] <JohnGalt> yw
[20:34] <aksjldlakj> I everyone, I currently run a amd64 and I want to install a .deb package that was built for i386 but it is giving me an error when I do "dpkg -i"...saying that package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64) any way around this?
[20:34] <bobweaver> hello there can someone help he with linking some libs ? like I want link /usr/share/qt5/include  to /usr/include/qt5   and I want to link /usr/share/qt5/plugins -> ../../lib/qt5/plugins  thanks
[20:34] <JohnGalt> aksjldlakj: download the x64 version
[20:35] <aksjldlakj> JohnGalt: there is only the i386 verison
[20:35] <Shirakawasuna> escott: got it. So something like acpi_osi=<whatever I find>?
[20:35] <JohnGalt> try to build a custom .deb package from source
[20:35] <TwistTheNeil> JohnGalt, if i dban my disk with a lower secure setting and then /dev/zero it, is that okay?
[20:36] <aksjldlakj> It's proprietary...it's the Steam client for linux
[20:36] <JohnGalt> TwistTheNeil: it won't be CIA proof but i guess you'll be fine
[20:36] <TwistTheNeil> well i don't have anything to be afraid of the cia :D
[20:36] <TwistTheNeil> thanks JohnGalt!
[20:36] <JohnGalt> yw
[20:39] <escott> MadsRC, g+s
[20:39] <escott> Shirakawasuna, im not sure what the actual kernel commands are. should be lots of debugging acpi tutorials out there
[20:40] <JohnGalt> aksjldlakj: Valve will release a x64 bit build later
[20:40] <JohnGalt> aksjldlakj: it's on their blog http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/
[20:40] <aksjldlakj> JohnGalt: ah ok...thanks
[20:40] <JohnGalt> aksjldlakj: "We are using a 32-bit version of Linux temporarily and will run on 64-bit Linux later."
[20:40] <JohnGalt> yw
[20:41] <DrGrov> wildwind: Is that the sources.list you wanted me to show you? Or did you mean some other sources.list?
[20:42] <ChogyDan> any suggestions on how to vlog with a webcam to youtube?  I don't really know where to start (the webcam does work, fwiw)
[20:43] <wildwind> DrGrov: yes show it
[20:43] <MadsRC> escott, Thank you, that did the setgid right. But deluge still gives me a permission error when I add the ubuntu torrent
[20:44] <escott> MadsRC, the setgid only affects new files
[20:44] <DrGrov> wildwind: I gave you the link to you. I will also put the error output on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:44] <DrGrov> wildwind: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1419626/
[20:44] <DrGrov> wildwind: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1419654/
[20:45] <bjrohan> I am in the market for a new laptop in the next month or so. Where is the best place to get recommendations for systems that best work with Ubuntu. My plan is to get the laptop wipe off Windoze and install Ubuntu
[20:45] <MadsRC> escott, Yes I know, but adding the torrent through the webui uploads the file, and then I get a permission error in /mnt/deluge/incomplete/torrentname - That it can't access the torrent file. Which is a new file.
[20:45] <escott> MadsRC, what are the permissions of that file
[20:46] <MadsRC> escott, The uploaded file, or the file that it gives a permission error on?
[20:46] <escott> MadsRC, the one with the permission error
[20:46] <MadsRC> It doesn't exist. When I go to the folder in the terminal and do a ls -a there's nothing there
[20:47] <wildwind> DrGrov: select other country in Application sources setup
[20:47] <escott> MadsRC, what are the permissions on its parent then
[20:47] <DrGrov> wildwind: Does that change anything with my 3rd party enabled repos?
[20:48] <morfeo_81> hi
[20:48] <MadsRC> The incomplete folder has rwxrwxr-w deluge deluge
[20:48] <wildwind> DrGrov: no it shouldn't. just official ones
[20:48] <DrGrov> wildwind: Okay, I will test it out now.
[20:49] <MadsRC> escott, The incomplete folder has rwxrwxr-w deluge deluge
[20:49] <morfeo_81> Which is the difference to create new wireless hot spot using "connecnt to new wireles" or use method from system setting and use network...? why if use the second one gave the right ip to a element and the other no?
[20:49] <MadsRC> escott, and "groups deluge" gives "deluge : deluge" So user deluge is part of group deluge
[20:51] <morfeo_81> how can create simple hot spot to connect from other device to my localhost server using wireles?
[20:52] <DrGrov> wildwind: Thanks, that did the trick :)
[20:52] <wildwind> glad to help
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> !ics | morfeo_81
[20:55] <morfeo_81> thanks
[20:55] <Shirakawasuna> escott: would it make sense for this to be related to me using 'legacy' in the BIOS settings, rather than the default UEFI?
[20:56] <morfeo_81> how can recover data from hard drive corrupted?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> morfeo_81: use your backups
[20:56] <morfeo_81> I try to use photec but prepare file .gpl
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> morfeo_81: or try foremost in liveCD
unfortunately I don't have backup...The  backup lost
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> morfeo_81: I suggest you review your backup regime, its not very effective
[20:57] <abdostar> could someone help me to find a nice conky config with an easy how to install?
[20:57] <ShadowofReason> Hello, If i download the Ubuntu windows installer will it make my win 8 os dualbootable automaticlly?
 I aggre... How can use foremost?
 live ubuntu 12.10?
[20:59] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076  abdostar
[21:01] <abdostar> bazhang: thank you,
[21:03] <DrGrov> wildwind: You do not by any chance have any solution to my KDE icon issues? :)
[21:04] <lorenx> trism: i've just compile the new 3.6.9 kernel... do i need nvidia 304.xx anyway?
[21:04] <lorenx> trism: and what is the linux-lts-backport-quantal thing? :P
[21:05] <trism> lorenx: yes, 295 doesn't build with 3.5+
[21:05] <lorenx> but i have to compile the linux-headers.deb right?
[21:06] <trism> lorenx: if you used make-kpkg you only need kernel_image since it will use the kernel source directory as the headers (assuming you don't delete the source after the build)
[21:06] <jeroen_> is this a developer channel or also for support?
[21:07] <jrib> jeroen_: it's dedicated to support
[21:07] <lorenx> trism: fine. but is the order important? i mean, should i first build the kernel and that install nvidia-304.xx or the opposite?
[21:07] <lorenx> *then
[21:07] <jeroen_> good, nice, since I have some problems ..... ;)
[21:08] <jeroen_> lets see, where shall I start, I have a new Dell all in one, xps 2710...
[21:08] <trism> lorenx: dkms should rebuilt the module either way, but you can check: dkms status; afterwards to see
[21:09] <jeroen_> for some reason the installer doesn't recognize the already installed Windows 8. Is that a know issue?
[21:09] <lorenx> trism: so the error here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1419541/ is due only to the incompatible version right?
[21:09] <csilk> Hi, It seems that I have no keyboard input in Virtual box on the guest OS's install screen. Any ideas?
[21:10] <csilk> http://askubuntu.com/questions/226592/no-keyboard-input-in-virtualbox-4-1
[21:10] <trism> lorenx: that is my guess, I know that I had to upgrade nvidia-current when I started using the lts-backport-quantal kernel (you could check make.log as suggested, but unfortunately the output is usually terrible for nvidia, so probably not helpful)
[21:10] <jeroen_> and likely related.. the sd card cache is now disabled. I needed to remove the raid support to install ubuntu in the first place..
[21:10] <lorenx> trism: ok, thanks a lot for your help ;) i'm going to try...
[21:11] <jeroen_> perhaps I shouldn't have done that
[21:12] <ShadowofReason> will the wibu.exe install ubuntu as an second OS ? ... So both Operating Systems ( Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.10 ) would be dual bootable ?
[21:12] <livingdaylight> usr13, hi there
[21:13] <elena-IK> can anyone explain what exactly the sshfs option sshfs_sync "synchronous writes" does?
[21:13] <bazhang> ShadowofReason, more of a test run/trial. not a true dual boot
[21:14] <guntbert> !enter | jeroen_ it easier to see what you need
[21:14] <bazhang> elena-IK, what does manpages.ubuntu.com say about that
[21:16] <elena-IK> bazhang: man says "synchronous writes" and nothing more. that is why I'm asking. manpages.ubuntu.com says timeout
[21:16] <jeroen_> ubutto: sorry I have a 27" screen now, it is one line here..
[21:16] <bazhang> jeroen_, ubottu is a bot
[21:17] <guntbert> jeroen_: no, you misunderstood - say what you have to say in one "take" - if you make several separate statements it is harder to follow
[21:17] <Krambiorix> hi guys, does anyone know a remote control app for the iphone to use with Libreoffice impress on ubuntu??
[21:17] <gr1m> fuck america!
[21:17] <gr1m> lololol
[21:17] <gr1m> trololo
[21:17] <FloodBot1> gr1m: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:18] <guntbert> jeroen_: one "line" can have up to 250 characters
[21:19] <ShayanneBanana> shanel12333
[21:20] <jeroen_> guntbert: indeed, personally I don't like the long lines with multiple questions in one sentence..
[21:20] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/sshfs.1.html   works fine here elena-IK
[21:21] <bazhang> jeroen_, its impossible to read the way you put it
[21:21] <guntbert> jeroen_: in that case stick to one problem at a time :)
[21:21] <lorenx> trism: excuse me, one last thing... "apt-cache search nvidia-current" gives me nvidia-experimental-304 and nvidia-experimental-310 also... can i safely install one of them?
[21:22] <elena-IK> bazhang: works here now to. but it doesn't say more than "synchronous writes", either :)
[21:23] <jeroen_> yes let's do one at a time: first problem, Windows 8 doesn't boot anymore
[21:24] <jeroen_> since the installer didn't recognize it...
[21:24] <jeroen_> Is that common or just my setup?
[21:25] <bazhang> jeroen_, please STOP with the enter key
[21:25] <ShadowofReason> @bazhang .. so i still have to install it the old fashion way?
[21:25] <bazhang> ShadowofReason, for a true dual boot? Yes
[21:26] <ShadowofReason> @bazhang . okay , will do it.
[21:27] <ElixirVitae> Does KDE integrate well into vanilla Ubuntu?
[21:28] <pix3l> no
[21:28] <ElixirVitae> I want to try KDE to complete my DE tour, and wonder if it will be okay if I just add KDE package as I've done with openbox lxde and xcfe
[21:28] <ElixirVitae> *xfce
[21:28] <bazhang> ElixirVitae, you mean kde apps?
[21:28] <pix3l> for that usage it will be ok
[21:28] <bazhang> ElixirVitae, sure it does
[21:28] <ElixirVitae> Nope, KDE as DE.
[21:29] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop package
[21:29] <csilk> Hi, It seems that I have no keyboard input in Virtual box on the guest OS's install screen. Any ideas?
[21:29] <pix3l> but if you want kde as your main desktop, go for another distribution
[21:29] <csilk> http://askubuntu.com/questions/226592/no-keyboard-input-in-virtualbox-4-1
[21:29] <ElixirVitae> From what I understand, KDE comes with its own "motherload"
[21:29] <bazhang> pix3l, thats just not necessary nor helpful advice
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> csilk: did you enable keyboard in the options of the virtual system?
[21:29] <pix3l> ok, I'm out
[21:29] <SushiDude> Is there anyway I can check if I have something installed from backports?
[21:29] <ElixirVitae> I want to try and decide.
[21:30] <csilk> ActionParsnip, I don't see a setting for the keyboard?
[21:30] <csilk> ActionParsnip, Are you talking about a setting in virtualbox?
[21:30] <lorenx> trism: excuse me, one last thing... "apt-cache search nvidia-current" gives me nvidia-experimental-304 and nvidia-experimental-310 also... can i safely install one of them?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> csilk: yes, you'll need to power it off to make changes
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> csilk: also try left ctrl or somesuch
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> csilk: also, ask in #vbox
[21:32] <Shanel12333> who wants o talk
[21:32] <csilk> ActionParsnip, I can't find the setting you're refering too. Also, the keyboard works at the first screen that virtualbox shows (press F12 for boot options) but then stops working on the install screen of the guest OS
[21:32] <trism> lorenx: you can, absolutely
[21:32] <ShayanneBanana> who would like to talk
[21:33] <trism> lorenx: if you have any others installed I would purge those first
[21:33] <bazhang> !ot | ShayanneBanana
[21:33] <lorenx> trism: yes, i purged nvidia-current. which one would you suggest, 304 or 310?
[21:34] <NiaM> !help
[21:34] <abdostar> could someone help me to install this conky theme (as I am new) http://conky.pitstop.free.fr/wiki/index.php5?title=File:11-2-mrpeachy-2.jpg
[21:35] <bazhang> abdostar, simply use the conky guide I gave you? did you read it at all?
[21:35] <trism> lorenx: haven't tried 310 yet myself, I am using 304.64 from x-updates ppa, (but I was using 304.48 (which is nvidia-experimental-304) previously without issues)
[21:35] <abdostar> bazhang: yes I did, but this file seems different from what was explained, or at least that what seems to me
[21:35] <lorenx> trism: let's live on the edge, let's try the 310 one ;) thanks!
[21:36] <emes> I've been noticing that my composting is slow. I have an ivy bridge laptop with intel graphics. how can I make sure the right driver is being used?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> emes: sudo lshw -C display      if it's unclaimed, then that's why
[21:37] <livingdaylight>  I've broken X and at prompt in safe mode... I've attached external hd but can't seem to cd to it
[21:37] <emes> ActionParsnip: doesn't say unclaimed
[21:39] <jeroen_> please can anyone point me out how I add Windows 8 back to the boot options?
[21:39] <Ray2> I have Ubuntu-10.04 installed on sda1 and another o/s on sdb5...I want to open an application in sdb5..the aplication is under the/opt folder and open the one that is in sda1...what do i need to do to open the sdb5 application from ubuntu ??
[21:40] <phunyguy_t430s> Ray2, can probably chroot with some good documentation.
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Ray2: mount it
[21:41] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, the app may require different libs
[21:41] <phunyguy_t430s> he said it's a different OS.
[21:43] <phunyguy_t430s> chroot is fairly easy, you just create a directory to use as new /, then mount /dev/sdb5 there, mount /proc and /dev there as well, then chroot.
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: if its a linux app then it may work, you can install a few apps in the /opt folder
[21:44] <phunyguy_t430s> perhaps, but if it doesn't.. it's not very hard to chroot to that env.
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_t430s: both ways have pros and cons
[21:44] <malucious> hello. if i launch a pdf from the unity dash I get vlc instead of evince. any ideas?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> malucious: right click the file and select to open with evince, set the OS to remember the association
[21:46] <Ray2> ActionParsnip...I mount the sda5 o/s and can open other folders from that o/s but /opt opens the folder from ubuntu...Its easier  just to switch o/s rather than use chroot.
[21:48] <dr_willis> Ray2:  it would be /media/mountpoint/opt   not /opt
[21:48] <malucious> ActionParsnip, it's already set to use evince with nautilus. and it works properly from there. but the unity file lens launches it differently
[21:49] <Guest92382> How do you mount a .dd image?
[21:49] <Guest92382> to see its contents?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest92382: use mount
[21:50] <cl0neman1> do commands like 'top' and 'ps' truncate usernames and process names that are too long? how to fix?
[21:50] <Guest92382> actionparsnip: mounty doesn't work
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest92382: mount, not mounty
[21:52] <Guest92382> ActionParsnip: used both syntax for a partition image and a drive image and neither worked
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest92382: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file /media/iso
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest92382: use the 'file' command to see what the file is
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Guest92382: How was the image created?
[21:54] <Guest92382> Jordan_U: Using testdisk
[21:54] <malkauns> is there any way to get rid of the unity grab handles when u do an accidental 3-finger swipe??
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest92382: then you can loop mount it as I gave above
[21:55] <livingdaylight> i can see /dev/sdb but don't know how to access it
[21:55] <Guest92382> ActionParsnip: whenever I use the first line of syntax you showed me earlier, when I press enter, it goes blank. It doesn't even ask for my password
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Guest92382: That means that it worked.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest92382: in linux, no news is good news
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest92382: you don't get an 'ok' after each command, it'd be redundant
[21:57] <Guest92382> ActionParsnip: My point is, it doesn't do anything at all
[21:57] <MeanEYE> heoyea: no lesson. Just weirdness. Didn't even find out what happened.
[21:57] <livingdaylight> can someone help me cd to external hd in command line so i can back up and reinstall, please?
[21:58] <Guest92382> Is test disk unreliable for making images?
[21:59] <Guest92382> Is that why it's not mounting for me?
[21:59] <lorenx> i installed nvidia-experimental-310 but, rebooting, i still have nouveau as the video driver, should i do something else?
[21:59] <Jim_> I have a /boot partion that is full with Logical volumes using the rest of the single drive system, how can I expand the boot partition without destroying data on the logical volumes?
[21:59] <zhangmu> #gnome
[22:00] <zhangmu> dfsa
[22:00] <heoyea> MeanEYE: dont mess with the matrix
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: you'll need to mount the partition on the drive
[22:00] <Guest92382> Okay I got it working. Can you mount something incorrectly and mess up the image file?
[22:01] <mandrix> lorenx: did you install it through Software Sources -> Additional Drivers?
[22:01] <lorenx> mandrix: no, apt-get form command line
[22:01] <Guest65520> Has anyone successfully used a USB 3.0 dock on Ubuntu?
[22:01] <Guest92382> because there are a lot of options here, and I'm going to guess how I need to mount it if there are no repercussions
[22:01] <mandrix> lorenx: I tried doing it that way and it never worked out; I couldn't disable nouveau. I got it working by going through Software Sources
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest92382: if you mount it read only then it's safe :)
[22:02] <lorenx> mandrix: maybe i should "ban" the driver
[22:02] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, sudo mount /dev/sdb1 ?
[22:02] <escott> Jim_, not going to be easy. why not just uninstall old kernels from /boot
[22:02] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, I did that and then?
[22:03] <mandrix> lorenx: I tried blacklisting, and that didn't work either. I have no idea why not
[22:03] <Guest92382> ActionParsnip: That makes sense. Though it isn't giving me an option to 'read only'
[22:03] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, I still can not cd to /dev/sdb or /sdb1 coz its not a folder or something
[22:03] <lorenx> mandrix: ok...
[22:03] <lorenx> trism: excuse me but do you have an hint for this too?
[22:03] <MeanEYE> heoyea: I guess. I still don't like the fact I am clueless about what happened.
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest92382: it'll be read only by default if memory serves
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: yes, you need to mount sdb1 then you cna cd to the mount point. You cannot access block devices from /dev
[22:04] <Guest92382> ActionParsnip: does this look like the right place to you? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1419821/
[22:04] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, how do i cd to the mount point?
[22:04] <mandrix> lorenx: You're free to try it that way first, but if it doesn't end up working, just changing the driver in Ubuntu's Additional Drivers will install the 310 driver automatically and turn off nouveau
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: you set the mount point when you mount it
[22:05] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, are you saying i should not, or, cannot cd /dev/sdb1 ?
[22:05] <Jim_> escott:Thanks for the response....I am not a guru, rather a newbie, can you assist with removing of the old kernals? I take it from this that we would be removing older OS elements that are no longer in use?
[22:06] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, oh, ok? for example?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: 1. You missed the space after the word 'loop'  and  2. You never told it where to mount it, so how can it possibly mount it when you don't tell it whree...
[22:07] <escott> Jim_, open up a terminal (and maximize it) then run <<dpkg -l "*linux-image*">> anything installed has a "ii" on the left column. you can find the old versions and <<sudo apt-get remove [linux-image-#####-generic]
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: sudo mkdif /media/ios; sudo mount -o loop ~image2.dd /media/iso
[22:07] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, when i am in X plugging in external device just pops up
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: sudo mkdif /media/ios; sudo mount -o loop ~/image2.dd /media/iso
[22:07] <livingdaylight> i missed the word 'loop' ?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: yes, that is handled by udev, back in the day devices had to be manually mounted
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: read my second command, then read yours. Note the spaceing
[22:08] <csilk> Still no luck with the virtualbox issue
[22:08] <zvacet> JIm_: easier way is to remove kernels from synaptic
[22:08] <Scunizi> csilk: I just logged in.. what issue are you having?
[22:08] <lorenx> mandrix: the installation itself created a nvidia-experimental-310_hybrid.conf to blacklist nouveau
[22:08] <Jim_> escott: Thank you, I have to go to the other machine to perform, will return.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> csilk: did you ask in #vnox ?
[22:08] <sasser> csilk, try with vmware workstation
[22:08] <csilk> Scunizi, http://askubuntu.com/questions/226592/no-keyboard-input-in-virtualbox-4-1
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> csilk: did you ask in #vbox ?  (typo)
[22:08] <csilk> ActionParsnip, yeah I did, upgrade was the suggestion
[22:09] <bjrohan> Can anyone recommend a site that goes over what new laptops Ubuntu will run on?
[22:09] <csilk> Which I did and still have the same issue
[22:09] <lorenx> mandrix: and a nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf too
[22:09] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, sorry, I'm not clear what to do. Do I replace words in that command to match mine or do I copy verbatim?
[22:09] <mandrix> lorenx: did it work? Mine created that as well, but nouveau was still being used
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: copy my command and run it, I assume the file is in the root of your home folder
[22:09] <ViaNocturna85> bjrohan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedHardware
[22:10] <demona> LF assist on installing a list of packages without interfering with current ones
[22:10] <Scunizi> csilk: although not supported in here.. I've always installed the version downloadable direct from vBox.. I've been using it for years.  Although the latest stable I'm having issues installing. You could try that or the previous version..
[22:10] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, the 'file' ?
[22:10] <escott> !hcl | bjrohan
[22:10] <lavoro92> hi
[22:10] <bjrohan> thank you escott
[22:11] <Scunizi> csilk: I also think they have a PPA that you can use with your package manager of choice.
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop ~/image2.dd /media/iso
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: that
[22:11] <myst3rious> for the life of me I can't get my wireless adapter to connect to the wireless network and stay connected. it just drops for no reason at all. and now it doesn't want to reconnect.
[22:11] <csilk> Scunizi, I've tried the one in the ubuntu repo (4.1) and the one straight from the Oracle ppa (4.2). Both have the same issue
[22:12] <Scunizi> csilk: hummm.. and did you install the guest additions? or was that impossible because of the lack of keyboard?
[22:12] <lavoro92> i have one problem :S i use ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i'm trying to use the linux api but the compiler can't find module.h
[22:12] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, you mixed up  Guest92382 + image.dd and livingdaylight + /dev/sdb/
[22:12] <myst3rious> it WORKS, but it just won't connect. it keeps asking for a password (the network password which is RIGHT) and only connects sometimes.
[22:12] <lavoro92> ?
[22:12] <livingdaylight> OerHeks, yes, I think so; hence, I@m confused
[22:12] <myst3rious> how can I brute force it into working all the time?
[22:12] <Guest92382> oerheks: I wanted to mount the image though, not a physical drive
[22:13] <myst3rious> IPv6 is disabled, so that's not the problem (but it works anyway)
[22:13] <lorenx> mandrix: no, did not work
[22:14] <trism> lorenx: did you check to verify the driver built? what is: dkms status;
[22:14] <ViaNocturna85> does anyone know if that Gwibber bug that notifies you of all tweets although you have set not to been fixed?
[22:14] <csilk> Scunizi, I lose the keyboard on the install screen of the guest OS
[22:14] <mandrix> lorenx: Have you looked in Software Sources to see what Ubuntu thinks it's using as a driver?
[22:14] <OerHeks> Guest92382, see previous comments from ActionParsnip about mount + loop
[22:15] <gh0zt> Is Ubuntu 10.04 still going to be supported for a while?  Is it not recommended to use this version?  I actually like this version of gnome better than the one that runs on 11.x and 12.x.  Those make my system seem more bloated, too.  This is running on a slightly older thinkpad laptop.
[22:15] <lorenx> mandrix: dkms status says "nvidia-experimental-310, 310.14, 3.5.3-minimal, x86_64: installed"
[22:15] <Scunizi> csilk: I just found reference to this as a solution.. sudo apt-get install scim-bridge-client-qt  .. got it from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=825606
[22:15] <csilk> Scunizi, that package isn't found. I think that's for a much older version of Ubuntu
[22:16] <Scunizi> csilk: I thought it might be too easy :(
[22:17] <livingdaylight> OerHeks, so, what is the correct command?
[22:17] <Scunizi> csilk: sorry .. I'm out of ideas except those already posed.. #vbox
[22:17] <OerHeks> livingdaylight, normally a mounted /dev/sdb1/ will show up in /media/ if i recall correct
[22:17] <myst3rious> someone help please my wireless adapter isn't working
[22:17] <lorenx> mandrix: i'll go on tomorrow i guess, thanks ;)
[22:18] <csilk> Scunizi, hmm thanks
[22:18] <mandrix> lorenx: Alright. Maybe try the non-experimental, that's what I'm using and what finally worked
[22:18] <Jim_> esott: ran commands and found about 6 kernals not in use. tried to remove but get errors with Device is Full Error exit status 1
[22:21] <mandrix> I have a question about boot logging. I turned it on in bootlogd, but it's not logging all the errors I see when booting Ubuntu
[22:22] <Jim_> escott: ran commands and found about 6 kernals not in use. Tried to remove but get errors with device is full. Error exit status 1
[22:22] <esing> Hello
[22:23] <tenpackpanther> hey all im having errors trying to install mysqlserver
[22:23] <guntbert> tenpackpanther: how did you try to install it?
[22:23] <jrib> tenpackpanther: pastebin them (and your command)
[22:23] <cjaredrun> ^
[22:23] <tenpackpanther> ssh
[22:23] <tenpackpanther> one sec
[22:24] <whereami> On Quantal, does Ubuntu not install symlinks for the latest kernel version in /boot? Is there a way I can get them back?
[22:24] <jrib> Jim_: free up some space and try again?
[22:24] <esing> I have Ubuntu and Windows installed on the same HDD, can I delete the WIndows partition and use it for the /home folder of the Ubuntu or do I have to reinstall Ubuntu to get that to work?
[22:25] <escott> Jim_, odd that you would get a device full on a remove. One thing you could do is to manually remove a file from /boot (best way would be to "sudo mv /boot/initrd.OLD_VERSION.generic /root") thereby freeing up space to apt-get remove one of the kernels then put it back with "sudo mv /root/initrd.* /boot"
[22:25] <tenpackpanther> http://pastebin.com/YLcEHuix
[22:26] <jrib> tenpackpanther: you pasted into your terminal?
[22:26] <tenpackpanther> no, i right clicked in an attempt to copy in putty
[22:26] <tenpackpanther> forgot that that doesnt work
[22:27] <jrib> tenpackpanther: so you have no idea why this would be happening?
[22:27] <jrib> tenpackpanther: nothing related to mysql was done?
[22:28] <tenpackpanther> i tried to uninstall it
[22:28] <jrib> tenpackpanther: why?
[22:28] <tenpackpanther> and then reinstall it
[22:28] <jrib> tenpackpanther: why did you try to uninstall it?
[22:28] <tenpackpanther> because when i tried to make it work with phpmyadmin it and view from localhost it didnt work so i figured id try a clean install
[22:29] <jrib> tenpackpanther: why do you say you "tried" to uninstall it?  What happened when you tried and how did you try?
[22:29] <emes> I've been noticing that my compositing is slow. I have an ivy bridge laptop with intel graphics. it seems the intel driver is being used. what else can I check?
[22:30] <tenpackpanther> because if it was uninstalled then i dont think id get an error message as it worked right the first time.  i tried using sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5
[22:31] <jrib> tenpackpanther: I have to leave so can't follow this through.  But imo you should explain exactly what you've done.  It seems like you uninstalled it and it didn't succeed or something?  Anyway, you should explain.  To fix your issue, figure out if mysql is running now and stop it, then try to reconfigure again.  Good luck.  Others here can help.
[22:31] <tenpackpanther> ty jrib
[22:34] <Svenner> exit
[22:35] <guntbert> how to call power-settings (in system-settings) directly from CLI?
[22:35] <bobweaver> gnome-power-statistics ?
[22:36] <Guest92382> If testdisk only found a quarter of the amount of files on a partition, can photorec be used to find and recover more?
[22:36] <guntbert> bobweaver: no, that is statistics, I want settings
[22:37] <bobweaver> gnome-control-center sound
[22:37] <bekks> Guest92382: Maybe.
[22:37] <elena-IK> I have problems with poor sshfs performance. with rsync or scp I get around 128 kB/s, with sshfs I get between 10 and 60 kB/s. is that normal?
[22:37] <Guest92382> bekks: depends on what?
[22:37] <guntbert> bobweaver: thx :)
[22:37] <bobweaver> np guntbert
[22:37] <bekks> Guest92382: On the degree of destruction of your data.
[22:38] <bobweaver> guntbert,  helps to look under /usr/share/applications and grep out sound
[22:38] <Guest92382> bekks: well nothing was overwritten or formatted... so is there a good chance?
[22:38] <bekks> Guest92382: Maybe.
[22:38] <bobweaver> guntbert, then look at the file and see the line that says execute that is what you are looking for. But I am sure that there are other things that work as well
[22:39] <guntbert> bobweaver: good idea - and I'll even look for "power" :-)
[22:39] <Guest92382> bekks: what other factors play a role in unrecoverable data destruction?
[22:39] <davidbowieslefte> hi, I'm trying to use curl, and when I use a query string like .../foo?limit=2&skip=3 in the terminal, whatever is after the & is lost.  Anyone know how to use query strings with curl on the command line?
[22:39] <dante123> 12.10 here.  tried nvidia driver experimental 310 on fresh install.  now boots into lower than usual rez and no unity dash or launcher.  how to get out of this?
[22:40] <bekks> Guest92382: There is no generic answer to your question.
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> dante123: try running:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    and reboot
[22:42] <guntbert> davidbowieslefte: use quotes around the string
[22:42] <Guest92382> bekks: testdisk found 140 gigs of info out of 484 gigs... how could I access the other 348 gigs? try to use undelete in photorec?
[22:43] <bekks> Guest92382: Yes. But there is no guarantee. Why dont you have a backup?
[22:43] <dante123> how to get to terminal when I only got background screen and mouse?
[22:43] <Guest92382> bekks: Or does 140 gigs out of 484 gigs sound about average for the testdisk/photorec recovery software
[22:43] <bekks> Guest92382: Depends on the degree of destruction of the data.
[22:43] <Guest92382> Bekks: I didn't have a HDD big enough to back it all up
[22:43] <guntbert> dante123: try ctrl+alt+t
[22:43] <davidbowieslefte> guntbert: ty
[22:43] <bekks> Guest92382: So basically your data wasnt worth to back it up then.
[22:45] <Guest92382> bekks: No it's not that at all. It means everything. I've just been too tight moneywise to blow a couple hundred on a HDD. I have a new one now and I've learned, but that doesn't matter to me right now. What matters is salvaging as much data as possible
[22:45] <dante123> OK ran it, said it was unable to find file so made a new one
[22:45] <dante123> rebooting now
[22:45] <bts_> hello, I've a problem with connecting my LG P700 phone with Ubuntu - it's recognized by lsusb, being seen also in dmesg, not being mounted tough. what could I do?
[22:45] <bts_> can*
[22:46] <dante123> now in 640 x 400 or some god awful rez. other suggestions
[22:47] <bts_> it's working on android, in addition
[22:48] <dante123> how to start update manager GUI from terminal?
[22:48] <maindotc> does my ip show in my whois?
[22:48] <bekks> maindotc: Yes.
[22:49] <maindotc> I don't understand...
[22:49] <dante123> I want to go back to previous open graphic driver
[22:50] <maindotc> bekks how about now
[22:51] <dante123> help!
[22:51] <bekks> maindotc: Still. :)
[22:51] <maindotc> wtf
[22:51] <maindotc> but I get these msgs:
[22:51] <maindotc> [17:51] == pdpc/supporter/student/asymptote is now your hidden host (set by services.) [17:51] == pdpc/supporter/student/asymptote is now your hidden host (set by syn.)
[22:52] <OerHeks> maindotc, your 'real name' shows your IP still
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> dante123: you could uninstall all the packages with nvidia in the name but not nvidia-common, then remove the /etcX11/xorg.conf file and reboot
[22:52] <bekks> maindotc: And you authenticated too late - after joining the channel.
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> dante123: you may find you need to specify the resolution in the xorg.conf file if you monitor isn't playing like it should
[22:52] <maindotc> ok let me rejoin
[22:53] <dante123> action, I'm stuck at 640x400.  can't do anything except terminal.  can you give specific command?
[22:53] <DrGrov> Hello. Having some issues installing LibreOffice 3.5.x on 10.04. Had it installed but I forced an update of libextcat-data(or similar) and now it requires that dependency every time. How can I purge the LibreOffice install and do a completely fresh install? Thank you.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> dante123: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep navidia | grep -v nvidia-common`
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> dante123: sec
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> dante123: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep navidia | grep -v nvidia-common | awk {'print $2'}`
[22:54] <dante123> monitor was fine with open source driver now it thinks it is a lap to at low rez
[22:54] <fuzai> how do i change the default window manager ubuntu 12.04?
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> dante123: just the package names is useful :)
[22:54] <fuzai> I want all users to default to xfce instead
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> fuzai: it should be part of the session in the DM, you can just add a startup item to the OS to run:  yourmanager --replace    to run the manager of your choice
[22:55] <fuzai> i want to change the defaults so new users don't have to choose everytime
[22:55] <sc0rpi0n> someone tried raring?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> sc0rpi0n: i have, but its offtopic here
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> sc0rpi0n: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> fuzai: if you install xubuntu, it will be the only choice.
[22:56] <fuzai> this is part of ltsp too
[22:56] <dante123> do you really mean navidia or is that typos
[22:57] <fuzai> i run xubuntu on everything except the servers which i run ubuntu server o
[22:57] <fuzai> on
[22:59] <dante123> unable to find pkg....BTW. I typed nvidia NOT navidia assuming typo on your part
[22:59] <edheldil__> Hi, anyone has an idea what could block a ttyACM0 device in Ubuntu Quantal?  I have verified that my Teensy board outputs through  serial  over usb on another computer, but when I connect it to 64bit QQ, I am unable to read from the serial port, even though the device opens.
[22:59] <edheldil__> I have tried killing various daemons, (fuser did not report anything), but only after going all the way to init s and reconnecting the device, I was suddenly able to read a line from ttyACM0 - even though cu was unable to do so
[23:00] <dante123> is other a way to start update manager from command line ActionParsnip
[23:00] <edheldil__> it's a fresh install of ubuntu, 64bit
[23:00] <dante123> on 12.10 I can change driver from inside the GUI for update
[23:01] <dante123> but how to get to update
[23:02] <blackshirt> dante123, you can use apt-get to upgrade or aptitude
[23:03] <Fudge> Hi I have a eeepc netbook and gnome3 runs really really slow on it, any suggestions on how to make precise or quantal work better for netbooks?
[23:04] <dante123> Blackshirt, I want to get into GUI update app for reasons I can't fully explain right Noe. do you know command for that
[23:04] <Fudge> dante123  software center?
[23:05] <dante123> well that might wok but I need to change additional drivers and that can be done from the update settings....gui
[23:06] <OerHeks> additional drivers tru cli = jockey-text ?
[23:06] <edheldil__> dante123:  you assume that it will work even if you change it :)
[23:06] <Fudge> you may be thinking of activating extra repository archives?
[23:06] <dante123> update-manager...thank you me
[23:07] <Karlo_> I have a shared directory exported by a Windows machine.  On my older Linux box, I import it with smbmount; on the new one, that command doesn't exist.  Does it have a different name?  Do I need to download it first?
[23:07] <DrGrov> Is there some kind of output that I could paste in order to clearly explain the installation issue of LibreOffice on 10.04?
[23:07] <dante123> well, I hope it will. trying now.....
[23:08] <blondielegs> is there anyone who can help me with my ubuntu? i used the program to update the drivers and now my video card doesnt work. its running in low graphics and i dont know how to fix it
[23:08] <bendym> Hi all - can anyone suggest a good place to look for a problem cause here? I have a NAS filer that has a share exported via SMB. I'm using cifs to mount it on my Ubuntu 12.10 server. Until recently, it was working fine - now, the mount command hangs and never returns. The same SMB export mounts just fine on my linux mint laptop. Nothing shows up in the logfiles that I can see.
[23:08] <Fudge> DrGrov  perhaps type, script try the update with apt-get and at the end type exit, then pastebin the typescript text file in the same directory
[23:08] <dante123> blondielegs, I'm in the same boat
[23:09] <blondielegs> crap....
[23:09] <edheldil__> blondielegs:  what card?
[23:09] <blondielegs> how do i find out?
[23:09] <DrGrov> Fudge: I could do perhaps this: "sudo apt-get install libreoffice > text.txt" ?
[23:09] <XMLnewbi> whats the command line for a file search?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> dante123: do you use an optimus system, or is it just the nvidia on it's own?
[23:10] <Fudge> DrGrov  possibly yeah but use script and exit, its easier and you can still type in sudo passwords and answer prompts
[23:10] <Fudge> you could always apt-get install pastebinit and cat typescript | pastebinit then paste us the url
[23:10] <edheldil__> blondielegs:  well were yu trying to set NVidia's proprieatry drivers through that Additional drivers dialog?
[23:11] <jv324> there
[23:11] <DrGrov> Fudge: Okay, I will give it a go both ways to see what I end up with :D
[23:11] <dante123> I am back to open driver, but now the damn rez is low and no options to change to.   do have unity bar and now it detects brand and size display any suggestions ActionParsnip
[23:11] <blondielegs> i think so
[23:11] <blondielegs> sounds about right
[23:11] <jv324> how come when i check channel lsit i only find ubuntu room for japanese and sweden
[23:11] <blondielegs> a 4.0 something...
[23:11] <jv324> i need help installing ubuntu 2.04
[23:11] <jv324> *12.04
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> jv324: what issues are you having?
[23:11] <Karlo_> XMLnewbi: locate PARTIALFILENAME  -or-  find TOPDIR -OPTIONS ARGS ...
[23:11] <jv324> i downloaded the iso and extract it,then run wubi
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> jv324: don'tt extract the file
[23:12] <dante123> what is command to reconfigure x
[23:12] <Karlo_> XMLnewbi: I can flesh that out if you specify the nature of the search
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> jv324: whack it on a USB or CD, then use that
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> jv324: be sure to MD5 test the ISO first
[23:12] <jv324> it says Could not retrieve the required installation files
[23:13] <XMLnewbi> locate worked, I was typeing search filename.html lol
[23:13] <jv324> im sure its not corrupted,a corrupted zip never extract without problem-_-isnt that a fact
[23:13] <DrGrov> Fudge: Here I got it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1419937/
[23:13] <bekks> jv324: No. :)
[23:13] <jv324> -_-
[23:13] <blondielegs> it said something about i had to "activate" it
[23:13] <blondielegs> i tried to
[23:14] <jv324> anyway i try to load the iso using virtualclone drive
[23:14] <blondielegs> it went thru all the steps and then fell on its face
[23:14] <edheldil__> blondielegs, dante123: that dialog is an absolute rubbish. I have tried all the proposed version of the driver, neither of them worked. I have then installed the nvidia driver by hand (i.e. sh ./NVIDIA-......run) and all was running perfectly in 5 minutes
[23:14] <Zael> anybody know what this mess is about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1419938/
[23:14] <jv324> i started wubi and it run but didnt let me choose login option,it shows demo/full installation
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> jv324: its a good habit to always check ISO files, it takes seconds
[23:14] <jv324> when i pick it it ask i reboot
[23:14] <blondielegs> can you walk me thru how to do that
[23:14] <jv324> how can i reboot if the iso loader is running on windows-_-
[23:15] <blondielegs> there is so many people im having trouble following
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> jv324: exactly, thats why you need an extra media
[23:15] <jv324> would it run on usb like the smaller bootable like lucid puppy?
[23:15] <jv324> ah i thought ti should run when i extract
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> jv324: you can use unetbootin and run the OS off the USB
[23:16] <jv324> other programs usually install when iso is extracted
[23:16] <jv324> as long as all files are in same directory
[23:16] <Zael> cause of autorun
[23:16] <jv324> i dont want to use unetbootin
[23:16] <jv324> isnt iso is enough to run it on boot?
[23:17] <Zael> you have to burn iso, or image it to a usb with something like unetbootin
[23:17] <edheldil__> blondielegs:  download the NVidia's linux driver, switch to terminal (ctrl-alt-F1), login, killall lightdm, sh ./NVIDIA-......run.
[23:17] <jv324> image?
[23:17] <edheldil__> it might require you to install kernel headers, though
[23:17] <jv324> cant i just extract it
[23:17] <Zael> yeah, just copying the iso to the usb or copying the files out of the iso to the usb won't make it bootable
[23:18] <sc0rpi0n> is still need to downgrade xorg to install ati proprietary drivers?
[23:18] <jv324> not unless if i boot on usb?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> jv324: no, you will need to either use unetbootin, burn to CD tyhen use wubi, or resize your NTFS, boot to the CD then install the new free space
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> jv324: or you can make a bootable CD with unetbbotin and install the OS using that
[23:18] <jv324> k ill find that unetbootin
[23:18] <jv324> i remember with lucid puppy i jsut extract it
[23:19] <jv324> i guess full install os needs some stuff
[23:19] <blondielegs> where do i download the driver
[23:19] <blondielegs> how do i get to download it \
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> jv324: so what....its a different distro so will act differently
[23:19] <DrGrov> Fudge: You saw the pastebin output?
[23:19] <jv324> sorry i didnt emant to say other distro
[23:19] <jv324> im just use with smaller bootable before
[23:20] <jv324> i need ubuntu to fix my filesystem on my smartphone
[23:22] <dante1232> edheldil__: tried what you said but says I must disable noveux driver first, how?
[23:23] <emx> where is the configuration folder of rhythmbox?
[23:24] <emx> (or how can i reset my music library such that it doesn't remove missing folders again and again?)
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> emx: try in ~/.config    maybe
[23:25] <emx> ActionParsnip, didn't find rhythmbox anywhere except it would use a different name.
[23:25] <verysoftoiletppr> hi
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> emx: try:  sudo updatedb; locate rhy | grep home
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> emx: it'll take a while
[23:25] <verysoftoiletppr> I'm trying to install this drivers http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English
[23:25] <emx> ActionParsnip, what? :) i found something in .cache
[23:26] <verysoftoiletppr> but the package doesn't contain configuration for precise
[23:26] <verysoftoiletppr> what should I do
[23:26] <jv324> question? this unetbootin,it needs empty flash drive?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> !info fglrx
[23:26] <jv324> or it could be installed on a flash drive with files?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> !ati | verysoftoiletppr
[23:27] <dyzzy> hy
[23:27] <dyzzy> allpl
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> verysoftoiletppr: if you have a 2xxx 3xxx or 4xxx GPU, you'll want the legacy PPA driver if you are using Quantal
[23:27] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip this is 9.3 with legacy drivers
[23:27] <dante1232> this latest kernel and nvidia seem to have major issues installing
[23:27] <jv324> hello?
[23:28] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip I'm using precise
[23:28] <dante1232> tempted to try mint
[23:28] <snapdata> I have googled and googled for the last two hours and I cannot find any information on what services are responsible for logging in Ubuntu, and/or how to disable logging entirely. Any hints?
[23:28] <verysoftoiletppr> and the chipset is x1050
[23:28] <jv324> so could i install it on empty usb or not?
[23:28] <jv324> *not empty
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> jv324: you can use it to install with or even to. Unetbootin can use a persistance file to hold changes
[23:29] <emx> ActionParsnip, it is .local/share/rhythmbox that holds the library
[23:29] <jv324> i put all my files on a one folder
[23:29] <jv324> so im hoping it wouldnt be affected if i used the usb drive on unetbootin
[23:30] <jv324> so what you said means it wont get affected?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> jv324: copying the data as files doesn't work
[23:30] <dante1232> error on nvidia driver install, unable to find the kernel source tree
[23:30] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip Legacy driver for ATI Radeon 9500/9550/9600/9700/9800/X300/X550/X600/X700/X800/X850/X1050/X1300/X1550/X1600/X1650/X1800/X1900/Xpress/X1200/X1250/X2100 Series cards http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx.
[23:30] <jv324> no im not copying
[23:30] <verysoftoiletppr> this is the link indicated in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:31] <kvothetech> dante1232: install the kernel sources
[23:31] <verysoftoiletppr> but I'm not sure how to install it
[23:31] <jv324> i mean i have personal files on the usb drive
[23:31] <verysoftoiletppr> because the .run doesn't contain a configuration for precise
[23:31] <dante1232> no wonder Linux gave nvidia the finger......BASTARDS!
[23:31] <cjae> Say I mount my ufs extenal drive (usb) to my ~/  , how come I cannot chown me:me ~/ufsstuff
[23:31] <jv324> i wanted to use unetbootin on that usbdrive,will it get erased?
[23:31] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip help
[23:31] <jv324> nvm ill just backup it and see
[23:31] <cjae> says its happpening but never changes owner
[23:32] <dante1232> how I do that kvothetech?
[23:32] <jv324> brb
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> verysoftoiletppr: the ppa is all i know of radeon chips dude, i don't buy them
[23:32] <Troy^> omg i have a logitch g110 i'm having such a hard time figuring out gnome15 for this keyboard. I'm trying to program the 'G' macro keys gnome15 is non-responsive for whatever reason.
[23:33] <Fudge> DrGrov  did someone look at your pastebin?
[23:33] <DrGrov> Fudge: No, unfortunately not. I just tried to do sudo apt-get purge libreoffice* as well and then reinstalling but no luck.
[23:34] <emes> I've been noticing that my compositing is slow. I have an ivy bridge laptop with intel graphics. it seems the intel driver is being used. what else can I check?
[23:34] <blondielegs> how i have a screen that says 4 options. 1. run in low graphics mode for just one session. 2. reconfigure graphics. 3. troubleshoot the error. 4. exit to console login.
[23:34] <Fudge> ok ill read it
[23:34] <newroad> hi guys. i'm having an issue with installing office 2010 x32 (on  x64 ubuntu) with wine 1.15.18. whenever the serial window pops up, i cant type into it.
[23:34] <isaias> HOLA SALUDOS
[23:35] <blondielegs> how do i fix my graphics card at this point if it will not let me reconfigure the graphics
[23:35] <blondielegs> theres no default
[23:35] <Fudge> DrGrov  apt-get install -f?
[23:35] <devrand0m> newroad, forget it...
[23:36] <DrGrov> Fudge: Ah, you are absolutely right. I have to do that to get that annoying little package out of the way :)
[23:36] <dante123> blondielegs, the graphics card ain't broke.....it either Ubuntu or nvidia driver that is the issue
[23:36] <blondielegs> how do i fix it at this point
[23:36] <mrkeuner> oops
[23:36] <DrGrov> Fudge: Should I perhaps just in case remove the actual LibreOffice PPA and enable it again before I do this "apt-get install -f"?
[23:37] <Fudge> DrGrov  I would just try the -f for fix missing packages and see your output
[23:37] <dante123> I'm working on same thing....will let you know if I succeed
[23:37] <DrGrov> Fudge: Did not show up anything special. I got the name though on the package that is causing the issue. libexttext-cat.
[23:38] <Fudge> i dont have tha tinstalled
[23:38] <newroad> devrand0m, ?
[23:38] <DrGrov> Fudge: I accidentally forced the install of that package and that made it really messy.
[23:38] <Fudge> DrGrov  my precise system output of installed libreoffice packages, maybe this will help you, start with the base probably http://paste.ubuntu.com/1419973/
[23:39] <escott> newroad, this is not the appropriate channel to ask in, nor is it particularly likely to work
[23:40] <DrGrov> Fudge: Thank you. I know how to install it but I can not get past that annoying little package :/ But I wonder, can I somehow force remove that libexttext-cat package now with the same procedure as sudo apt-get purge libexttext* ?
[23:40] <newroad> sigh
[23:40] <Fudge> DrGrov  or dpkr -r package name
[23:40] <Fudge> without -version-x
[23:40] <escott> newroad, if you can get your hands on a legal copy of office you can presumably get your hands on a legal copy of windows so try vbox
[23:40] <DrGrov> Fudge: Okay, that will probably be a good idea to test right now.
[23:41] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip which PPA
[23:41] <escott> !appdb | newroad
[23:41] <j4jackj> OK. Back in offtopic, I tried to make Flannel's joke backfire, and it backfired on me :(
[23:41] <Fudge> lol@j4jackj
[23:42] <newroad> escott, i know appdb, there just wasnt any reference to this problem there
[23:42] <j4jackj> Fudge: i know you are the same person
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> verysoftoiletppr: http://ubuntuxtreme.com/howto/how-to-fix-your-amd-graphics-in-ubuntu-12-10/   scroll don to the 'Using Makarewicz PPA' and click it
[23:43] <Fudge> j4jackj  same person as what
[23:43] <j4jackj> flannel
[23:43] <Fudge> I dont think so, try a /whois
[23:44] <DrGrov> Fudge: This is the PPA I am using. I will now try to remove it and re-enable it from Ubuntu Tweak from where I got it the first time. Hopefully that will work.
[23:44] <DrGrov> Fudge: http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu
[23:45] <Sterling> I have an Asus q200e, just bought it and it has EFI
[23:45] <Sterling> I used wubi on windows 8 to install a ubuntu partition
[23:45] <Sterling> but I get a bootloader error on boot
[23:45] <Sterling> I can boot win8 ok, but not ubuntu
[23:45] <Sterling> I can select it in the win8 boot menu
[23:45] <Fudge> DrGrov  which version of ubuntu are you using mate
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Sterling: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[23:46] <DrGrov> Fudge: I am using 10.04. I had it working until I by accident forced installed that libexttextcat package.
[23:46] <Sterling> ActionParsnip: read that, but it doesnt mention anything about wubi
[23:46] <Troy^> is anyone here using a logitech keyboard such as a g19, with an lcd screen or just has macro keys? I need help getting gnome-15 to run properly in ubuntu 12.04 so i can set keyboard backlights and macro settings.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Sterling: not sure about wubi in general. i think its awful
[23:47] <Sterling> its my only option for now
[23:47] <Sterling> dont have a USB disk on hand
[23:47] <Fudge> DrGrov  sorry mate not sure what else without looking, have you googled libreoffice lucid install problems ppa
[23:47] <John76> Can someone please help me get my Lexmark Impact s301 printer to work?
[23:48] <John76> I installed the drivers and it's still not showing up.
[23:48] <DrGrov> Fudge: Yes, I have and I am not getting much of anything at the moment. But I am sure I will figure it out soon. Checking out the ubuntuforums.org for some guidelines and help from people with the similar issue.
[23:49] <RickZilla> I can't think of a good reason why I can't access the disk utility...it's installed and showing up as such in synaptic, but I can't find it to run it otherwise. Running ubuntu 12.10
[23:50] <RickZilla> in Cinnamon, I might add
[23:50] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip tks :)
[23:50] <verysoftoiletppr> it looks usefull
[23:50] <verysoftoiletppr> useful
[23:50] <John76> http://support.lexmark.com/index?segment=SUPPORT&userlocale=EN_US&locale=en&productCode=LEXMARK_IMPACT_S301&page=product&frompage=null#2
[23:51] <myfollower> shqip
[23:52] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I think I wrote with you about my LibreOffice issues earlier. And how I got it back installed. Do you remember anything how we did it?
[23:53] <newroad> does ubuntu come with wine mono
[23:53] <newroad> ?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: i've drank and slept since then dude
[23:54] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Of course :) Have you seen the pastebin outputs I pasted to see what is the issue? Perhaps you know what might be the problem.
[23:55] <DrGrov> If I do a backup of all my files that I have on 10.04. Is it so simple that I just copy all the folders over, ex. Documents, Pictures, Downloads etc. and it is all good?
[23:55] <XMLnewbi> so im kinda brainstorming here. are cron jobs pratical on a second basis? I have a live stream of datacomeing in, (just a price, not a lot of data) I want to push a livestream of a modifie price on my site. Is useing php to insert into a database the best way
[23:56] <escott> Troy^, there was a g19-daemon or g19-tools project
[23:56] <XMLnewbi> look like my ubuntu server can only do crons every minute
[23:56] <escott> XMLnewbi, you should not be doing cron jobs more frequently than every 15 minutes or so
[23:57] <XMLnewbi> thats what I thought, should I probally be looking into running a websocket type setup
[23:57] <XMLnewbi> id prefur a livesteam of data
[23:57] <escott> XMLnewbi, you could open a socket or just sleep loop read a file
[23:57] <XMLnewbi> input and output as a function
[23:58] <XMLnewbi> open a socket* could you link something?
[23:59] <user> hello
[23:59] <escott> XMLnewbi, ..... it really depends on what tool you are going to use.