[00:37] <zequence> len-dt: We might as well get email adresses for everyone at this point, since perhaps only one or two would have any doubts about it
[01:34] <len-dt> zequence, I have nothing against it, just that I am not a PR kind of person and so don't "need" it.
[21:51] <holstein> zequence: you think A3 adding midi will kill off any of the other midi sequencers?
[21:51] <holstein> i dont think anyone will stop doing what they are doing. personally
[21:53] <zequence> holstein: I'm sure some people will start using Ardour3 for both audio and midi, but the way it's now, I don't think everyone will find it full featured and stable enough for their needs
[21:54] <zequence> Probably depends on how much one uses midi
[21:54] <holstein> i mean, the little projects.. you think they will just give up?
[21:54] <zequence> like muse? Don't think so
[21:54] <len-dt> What little bit of midi I have done holstein, I have preferred to have separate from audio though sync-able. But then I am not really a "synth" person... or maybe I am, perhaps I should say I am not a KB replaces things person.
[21:55] <holstein> len-dt: im not a synth guy either... i usually route it in ardour like an audio channel and track it live
[21:56] <zequence> I do some midi sometimes. I actually don't find any of the sequencers adequate
[21:56] <zequence> As soon as you start doing anything else than straight forward 4/4, you start hitting problems
[21:56] <len-dt> That is, I enjoy synth as a lead synth sounding instrument.... Played by a KB player in real time :)
[21:56] <zequence> The worst one was notes not being played
[21:57] <zequence> It's funny that all of the sequncers were somewhat similar in the bugginess. This was alsa midi
[21:57] <zequence> That may be the strenght of Ardour, namely jack midi
[21:57] <len-dt> zequence, Quantitize off and ignore the bars
[21:57] <zequence> len-dt: I wrote the notes. Didn't play them
[21:57] <zequence> And I was doing tempo changes, etc
[21:58] <zequence> Needed click for recording audio too
[21:58] <len-dt> zequence, that is beyond me... or maybe just feels laborious because I don't even read music well let alone write it.
[21:59] <zequence> The point is, none of the applications did what they were supposed to do
[21:59] <zequence> The were supposed to play back all of the notes, not just most of them
[22:00] <len-dt> Yup. I agree with that, and I would find it more frustrating because I find it hard already.
[22:01] <zequence> jack midi is a lot more solid, but I'm not sure the midi implementation in Ardour, at least editing it, is either efficient or solid. I would expect playback to be though
[22:05] <len-dt> The last sequencer I really used was a shareware thing on my Atari years ago. It was really solid time wise and easy to use, though it probably lacked a lot things considered normal now. None of the windows stuff at the time (pre 90s) was stable enough time wise to make music IMO