dwatkins | true, penguin42 | 00:00 |
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dwatkins | I was hoping for something about a fifth the price | 00:00 |
dwatkins | I'd consider building it myself, but I'm not comfortable with messing with mains voltages. | 00:00 |
penguin42 | yeh ditto | 00:00 |
penguin42 | almost cheaper to use rack-pdus depending on the number of ports you needed in one place | 00:03 |
dwatkins | penguin42: I considered that, havn't looked up prices yet, but if they're in the low three-figure range, it might be about the same | 00:03 |
dwatkins | we had a really simple mains splitter on the network in my previous job, never saw it, but I used it to power stuff up and down from the other side of the atlantic a couple times | 00:04 |
penguin42 | dwatkins: What you trying to control? | 00:06 |
dwatkins | penguin42: just curious really, I have a remote for a VPN unit, light and print server (i.e. nothing high-wattage) and wondered if I can control them via a web browser or similar. | 00:07 |
dwatkins | What I have is essentially this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Remote-Control-Socket-Set/dp/B000H9HU70/ | 00:07 |
dwatkins | (but doesn't look awful) | 00:08 |
penguin42 | haha | 00:08 |
penguin42 | dwatkins: The interesting stuff with the 'control it via a web browser' is what to connect that control to | 00:08 |
penguin42 | http://www.audon.co.uk/usb_digital/np8800.html isn't cheap | 00:09 |
dwatkins | indeed, penguin42 - and windows-only | 00:09 |
hazrpg | dwatkins: *clicks* link | 00:10 |
dwatkins | So, my options are: continue to use the remote (which has poor range), spend a hundred or so pounds on an X10 solution (and have fun setting it up to run under Ubuntu) or something else | 00:10 |
penguin42 | dwatkins: Yeh you want to get a spare remote and a soldering iron; that way you don't mess with the 240v | 00:11 |
dwatkins | penguin42: good call :) | 00:11 |
dwatkins | I could setup some relays on a USB port | 00:11 |
dwatkins | or opto-isolate them or something hoopy like that | 00:11 |
penguin42 | or lego with a plunger onto the button :-) | 00:11 |
dwatkins | haha, guess what my Arduino case is made from... | 00:12 |
penguin42 | dwatkins: So normally the problem is whether you connect the DSL router to the PDU switch and whether that lets you screw up and turn your connection to said PDU switch off | 00:14 |
hazrpg | dwatkins: lego ;)? | 00:14 |
hazrpg | hmm, just thought! | 00:15 |
hazrpg | why not just get a regular on/off switch device... jimmy it together with some wires to the off/on mechanism and wire directly to an arduino ;D | 00:16 |
penguin42 | dwatkins: The 8 port APC masterwitches are about 400gbp which is I guess a bit OTT | 00:17 |
hazrpg | surrogates just came on fox-movies (via nilesat in egypt) | 00:17 |
hazrpg | always an odd film to watch - but bruce willis non-the-less | 00:18 |
penguin42 | hazrpg: With dirty string vest? | 00:18 |
hazrpg | penguin42: *raises eyebrow* Hmm? | 00:19 |
penguin42 | hazrpg: Bruce willis; he normally has a dirty string vest somewhere in most of his films | 00:19 |
dwatkins | penguin42: yeah, APC switches seem to be rather pricy. I'm not looking to switch the DSL router on or off (that stays on permanently) just a few devices I don't always use. | 00:19 |
penguin42 | dwatkins: Yep | 00:20 |
dwatkins | hazrpg: this is my phone charger/holder at home: http://i.eho.st/pjxg6ekh.jpg | 00:21 |
dwatkins | it has a cable restraint so I can just slide the phone in | 00:22 |
dwatkins | (and out) | 00:22 |
hazrpg | penguin42: ah, heh, possibly | 00:25 |
hazrpg | dwatkins: nice ^_^ | 00:26 |
dwatkins | cheers | 00:27 |
dwatkins | It took a couple iterations to get it right. | 00:28 |
hazrpg | dwatkins: what made you want to do it? | 00:28 |
hazrpg | other than having the phone tilted the right way to quickly view it | 00:28 |
dwatkins | hazrpg: I got fed up with having to find the cable every evening, made a stand-up stand and learned a few things, then made this one after seeing the wooden 'alarm clock music player' style phone stand | 00:29 |
dwatkins | I should really take a photo with it showing the time in the correct orientation | 00:29 |
hazrpg | heh, interesting | 00:30 |
hazrpg | wish I had some lego lying around... always wanted to make a bed-side dock, mainly cos the official dock is no longer available | 00:31 |
dwatkins | A colleague gave me a box of it, her kids weren't using it :D | 00:32 |
dwatkins | hazrpg: a slightly improved photo: http://rowla.dyndns.org/images/alarm_clock.jpg | 00:37 |
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hazrpg | dwatkins: heh, nice photo quality there! Looks good in that. :D | 05:49 |
hazrpg | dwatkins: sorry it took so long, was up doing video editing for a video I was responding to a question for in #ubuntu-eg ... took longer than I thought it would... but hurray its done! \o/ http://youtu.be/xEGtn_Cezyo | 05:51 |
MartijnVdS | \o | 06:27 |
* solarcloud_3scrn has opened his present of a new apple UK keyboard. | 09:08 | |
solarcloud_3scrn | :) | 09:08 |
dwatkins | hazrpg: no worries, nice video demo too. | 09:43 |
dwatkins | solarcloud_3scrn: the wired or wireless one? | 09:43 |
solarcloud_3scrn | dwatkins, Wired .. funny usb interface .. but seems to work alright., | 09:51 |
solarcloud_3scrn | just been on the phone to my dad .. he 's happy for me :D | 09:51 |
solarcloud_3scrn | It is a good time to de-clutter this weekend .. I did all of mine last night. | 09:52 |
solarcloud_3scrn | Funny thing was I stopped every half an hour and did a Video diary to my cheap camera (10.2 MP) as a kinda vlog about thoughts. | 09:53 |
solarcloud_3scrn | very inspiring :) | 09:53 |
dwatkins | I did a lot of decluttering recently, it helps me focus when there's less stuff in the way. | 09:55 |
solarcloud_3scrn | Google plus seems 2 be missing photos this morning ... :( | 09:56 |
solarcloud_3scrn | plus there is a seven hour gap in between posts .. dont you just hate that ? | 10:01 |
solarcloud_3scrn | I'm in 62 communities already :) | 10:12 |
brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 10:21 |
dwatkins | mornin brobostigon | 10:25 |
dwatkins | solarcloud_3scrn: you mean the gap where the US is asleep? ;) | 10:25 |
brobostigon | morning dwatkins | 10:26 |
solarcloud_3scrn | I'm on gmt time. | 10:26 |
popey | morning | 10:27 |
brobostigon | morning popey | 10:28 |
solarcloud_3scrn | Let the shoveling commence .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G0YSBuw3i0g#! | 10:52 |
popey | gosh, he's a wide chap, and no wonder if he eats that lot | 11:06 |
popey | however, i did discover via that video a nice advert for ocado iphone app :) | 11:11 |
solarcloud_3scrn | popey, As a moderator for google communities, (as I am one myself for the 99% commune) .. I was wondering if there has been any 'tasks' that you've been appointed to-do. either from the community or google ? | 11:33 |
AlanBell | they have only existed for a couple of days | 11:35 |
popey | solarcloud_3scrn, not really | 11:35 |
popey | we haven't set any rules in place yet, or roles | 11:35 |
solarcloud_3scrn | AlanBell, true, I'm loading gigabytes of info onto my communities as we speak :) | 11:35 |
popey | but i have rejected some posts | 11:35 |
solarcloud_3scrn | me too. | 11:35 |
AlanBell | gigabytes of info ?? | 11:36 |
solarcloud_3scrn | I do like the D.I.Y. c-groups. | 11:36 |
solarcloud_3scrn | AlanBell, Yes, my external hard drive said on Friday " Aww crap, I'm in overdrive for the next couple of days while I share all those pics/vids/ and tracks that have been dormant for so long " .. :-) | 11:38 |
* solarcloud_3scrn wonders if 'anonymous' have woken up to this new platform , yet ?? anyone seen anything ? | 11:39 | |
solarcloud_3scrn | Slightly strange that I see invites for groups hat I am already in though .. were do I file a bug ?? | 11:41 |
solarcloud_3scrn | **where | 11:41 |
AlanBell | I think you are seeing slightly more in the communities feature than I am | 11:59 |
AlanBell | it is just a way of posting and discussing stuff with "people interested in topic foo" rather than "people I know" | 12:00 |
AlanBell | but apart from a different audience selection methodology it is just the same as before isn't it? | 12:00 |
AlanBell | just been catching up on the new lens privacy flamefest | 12:01 |
AlanBell | anyone got a few minutes to test bug 1087873 | 12:03 |
lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 1087873 in unity-lens-github (Ubuntu) "lens privacy feature does not work on all lenses" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087873 | 12:03 |
AlanBell | basically install unity-lens-github from the software centre and flip the privacy switch in settings and see if it stops working | 12:04 |
solarcloud_3scrn | AlanBell, Personally feeling part of a community is the best news so far this Month . I'm just stoked in a big way. I put an advert in the national newspaper to join the local community (3 papers) .. So I expect big disruptance next week. | 12:04 |
solarcloud_3scrn | .. but it's like the Hotel night receptionists book will say .. nothing happened. probably | 12:05 |
solarcloud_3scrn | breakfast was a Yorkie bar today :) | 12:06 |
jacobw | DIY c-groups? | 12:15 |
solarcloud_3scrn | jacobw, Yeah like DIY biuld your own rig/computer G+community .. if I see the link I'll post you. | 12:18 |
jacobw | i see :) | 12:19 |
solarcloud_3scrn | have to say that it is a bit slow though .. for example when i see a sub-category it says "50 new posts" but when i click on the category there is only 10 or so. | 12:21 |
solarcloud_3scrn | CyanogenMod is a massive community cosidering it's all opensource .. 10,000 members ! Go opensource !! | 12:26 |
jacobw | there's a lot of large open source communities | 12:34 |
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andylockran | morning all; I could do with some help on setting up 5.1 sound on Ubuntu 12.10 through HDMI.. it's not outputting sound and not sure where to look. pavucontrol doesn't have a 'test speakers' option | 12:42 |
penguin42 | hmm I wish there was a firefox-esr package | 12:50 |
jacobw | penguin42: i thought there was | 12:56 |
jacobw | penguin42: just googled and found a ton of 'how to install firefox esr in ubuntu: wget firefox-esr.bz2' | 13:01 |
penguin42 | yeh, don't see any packaged versions in the repo, and a bug where someone asked for it is a won't-fix-we-haven't-got-time | 13:01 |
penguin42 | could just download the upstream | 13:01 |
* penguin42 wants it so he can run pentadactyl again | 13:02 | |
* jacobw uses vimperator | 13:03 | |
jacobw | penguin42: why pentadactyl? | 13:03 |
penguin42 | jacobw: I've been using pentadactyl for a while and I can't quite describe what's missing, but it feels like a lot | 13:04 |
penguin42 | heck, the ESR timescales are still only about a year - not that extended | 13:05 |
jacobw | penguin42: what's missing in vimperator? | 13:06 |
penguin42 | jacobw: Let me get back to you on that; I've been using vimperator for a few days and I keep kind of swearing at it and not quite figuring out exactly what's missing | 13:07 |
AlanBell | RIP Patrick Moore http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939 | 13:08 |
penguin42 | :-( | 13:08 |
jacobw | :-( | 13:09 |
GentileBen | Nooooo!! | 13:09 |
GentileBen | AlanBell, did you just update his Wikipedia article? | 13:10 |
* jacobw thinks AlanBell isn't faster than the Wikipedians | 13:12 | |
penguin42 | first change was apparently at 12:59 | 13:13 |
dwatkins | :( | 13:15 |
SuperEngineer | n0000! an life through & of intelligence is always a loss - please, let this not be true | 13:15 |
SuperEngineer | ...fare thee well, Patrick | 13:16 |
SuperEngineer | just found a cute way of creating a unique [but not memorable] password: clean your keyboard while pooter is active ☺ | 13:31 |
jacobw | pwgen -Bsy 12 | 13:32 |
GentileBen | There's no Wikipedia article for vajazzles. Why? | 13:34 |
AlanBell | dunno, ask in #wikipedia perhaps | 13:41 |
* AlanBell still wants someone to try the github lens | 13:41 | |
SuperEngineer | does ubuntu have a ppa or similar where I download a darn heating engineer? I've just replaced the thermo-couple & still no heating!... me diggy no further into boiler as me no like unwanted loud bang type noises | 13:42 |
SuperEngineer | or maybe a ppa where I can find out the cost the 2 halogen heaters no in use to ward off jack frost | 13:44 |
SuperEngineer | *now | 13:44 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: No but if you get enough machines and try and rebuild the repo it should keep you warm | 13:45 |
SuperEngineer | lol | 13:45 |
GentileBen | AlanBell, will it send all your github searches to Amazon? >_> | 13:47 |
SuperEngineer | hey - if Ranolph Fiennes can put up with -90 I guess I survive [just need to nick his polar gear & I'll be ok I guess] | 13:47 |
jacobw | it's -11 overnight here in Bavaria | 13:49 |
GentileBen | YOLO Toure is on for Kompany. | 13:51 |
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penguin42 | seems to have got a bit warmer here, quite a reasonable +4c in Manchester; that's abotu 5c warmer than it was earlier in the week | 13:52 |
dwatkins | it's been fairly warm in Edinburgh too, although it's set to go down to about -2'c on Monday night. | 13:52 |
dwatkins | no, I lie, -4'c | 13:52 |
penguin42 | dwatkins: We had that on early Thursday morning http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e3m4ejlcqe3 | 13:54 |
penguin42 | but yes next week does look like it's going to be mostly around 0 perhaps pulling itself a few C above around the middle of the day | 13:56 |
SuperEngineer | hmm & anyone seen next week's *snow* forecast? - not good without heating | 13:58 |
* SuperEngineer thinks: this will be good for the soul - remind me of what less fortuante peeps are always going through | 13:58 | |
SuperEngineer | *fortunate | 13:58 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Of course you could just get the boiler engineer in | 13:58 |
SuperEngineer | Pendulum: you think I haven'r been trying!!!! | 13:58 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: If you're really desperate Gritish Bas have been advertising that you can supposedly ring them up for one off fixes | 13:59 |
SuperEngineer | yep. that's what I was thinking as well | 13:59 |
AlanBell | GentileBen: nope, it sends all your amazon searches to github as it happens | 14:05 |
GentileBen | AlanBell, are you watching the derby? | 14:06 |
AlanBell | the what? | 14:06 |
GentileBen | http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20657350 | 14:08 |
AlanBell | no, not into sport | 14:09 |
AlanBell | didn't the derby used to be about horses or something? | 14:10 |
GentileBen | AlanBell: not since about 1890. | 14:27 |
GentileBen | It now means "sporting contest between two teams based within the same city". | 14:28 |
GentileBen | There are exceptions though - big cities like London have about 20 teams, whilst radioactive wastelands like the north-east don't have many teams. | 14:29 |
GentileBen | Eg. Newcastle-Sunderland is known as the Tyne-Wear derby despite nobody else caring. | 14:29 |
GentileBen | The more you know~~~ | 14:29 |
penguin42 | jacobw: OK, things missing (you may know of similar shortcuts); Pentadactyl has s and S that start a google search (in the same or next tab), there is also ctrl-z that suspends it for the current tab so that all key strokes are passthroughs | 14:41 |
christel | /1/3 | 14:42 |
christel | er | 14:42 |
jacobw | penguin42: i'm only using o to open in current tab and t to open in new tab followed by the search prefixes ('google' foo, 'amazon' foo) | 14:49 |
jacobw | penguin42: i want the passthrough to be easily accessible | 14:50 |
penguin42 | jacobw: nod; I guess the ctrl-z is intended to be like backgrounding vi | 14:51 |
jacobw | penguin42: gmail is the use case mentioned in the faq, also you can scroll up and down slashdot articles and comments with j and k | 14:52 |
penguin42 | jacobw: So what's the equivalent in vimperator of the ctrl-z in pentadactyl? | 14:52 |
jacobw | penguin42: the vimperator faq says it's ctrl-z, but it doesn't work for me | 14:58 |
penguin42 | jacobw: Hmm, me neither | 14:58 |
Azelphur | I think my new flat is designed to troll postmen or something | 14:59 |
penguin42 | non-existent postcode? | 15:00 |
Azelphur | I don't have a postbox in the main area, there's a notice up saying he should deliver it direct to my door, but my door doesn't have a letterbox. | 15:00 |
Azelphur | nope, I have a postcode and my flat exists on most registries | 15:01 |
penguin42 | ok, a friend has lived in a few new-build flats where the postcode system hadn't caught up yet | 15:02 |
Azelphur | haha | 15:02 |
jacobw | you need a US style mailbox to the side of your door | 15:03 |
penguin42 | or a shredder | 15:03 |
jacobw | unfortunately ignorance isn't an excuse to not paying bills | 15:03 |
penguin42 | damn | 15:04 |
Azelphur | need a new door really, for some reason my door has big weak-ass windows in it | 15:04 |
* penguin42 tries to avoid Windows | 15:04 | |
SuperEngineer | As much as I am ashamed to ask.. anyone up to date with facebook [in particular re Facebook/Gwibber]? | 15:04 |
jacobw | a door running windows ce sounds terrible | 15:04 |
SuperEngineer | Gwibber has stopped updating f/b | 15:05 |
Azelphur | indeed | 15:05 |
jacobw | SuperEngineer: use Pidgin/Empathy for Facebook IM (it's XMPP based) | 15:05 |
SuperEngineer | I have succesfully re-authorised it just in case | 15:05 |
jacobw | SuperEngineer: or at least, it's accessible by XMPP | 15:05 |
SuperEngineer | yeh - gwibber set up for XMPP a/c - and has been for agres - no trouble in past but now no updates... | 15:06 |
SuperEngineer | ...Empathy might well be worth a go though | 15:06 |
SuperEngineer | thanks jacobw | 15:06 |
jacobw | a/c? | 15:07 |
SuperEngineer | oops - just closed xchat by mistake :( | 15:09 |
SuperEngineer | jacobw: hmmm - empathy for chat only - I was looking for something that shows postings | 15:15 |
SuperEngineer | g | 15:15 |
SuperEngineer | wibber stylie | 15:15 |
jacobw | like the web interface? :) | 15:15 |
SuperEngineer | exactly | 15:16 |
SuperEngineer | there used to be a facebook app [like an early desktop widget] in 11.something - not there in software centre now - boo hiss | 15:16 |
SuperEngineer | [using 12.04] | 15:17 |
jacobw | isn't this the use case for unity web apps? | 15:17 |
SuperEngineer | yup | 15:17 |
SuperEngineer | is it viable / reliable to install on 12.04 | 15:17 |
SuperEngineer | ? | 15:18 |
SuperEngineer | fogger for instance | 15:21 |
jacobw | ah, i forgot it was new in 12.10 | 15:22 |
jacobw | i've been using mint for a while | 15:23 |
* SuperEngineer also has Mint installed [for Wine & that wonderful google photo app whose name dare not be mentioned ;) - SuperEngineer doesn't want to expose a Windows "structure" to the outside world on main op sys | 15:27 | |
SuperEngineer | ...so would fogger be ok anyone... sounds promising but seems very java script based | 15:28 |
jacobw | you can use those things with unity too | 15:33 |
jacobw | fogger looks like an experimental project | 15:34 |
SuperEngineer | yeah... but can I use webapps on 12.04? | 15:34 |
jacobw | you can install the preview from the webapps ppa | 15:38 |
SuperEngineer | repository ppa:webapps/preview that one? | 15:40 |
jacobw | yeah | 15:41 |
SuperEngineer | cheers - will give it a go - thanks jacobw | 15:41 |
jacobw | o/ popey | 15:50 |
popey | o/ | 15:50 |
SuperEngineer | jacobw: well that was a fail - thank heavens for ppa-purge | 15:52 |
jacobw | i don't think the unity team intends to backport any of the dependencies of webapps | 15:53 |
SuperEngineer | time to say bbs - need to clear down a few things methinks | 15:54 |
SuperEngineer | can someone have a look at this please http://paste.ubuntu.com/1421307/ | 16:21 |
SuperEngineer | synaptic, software xwnre, software sources et al are all now snafu'd | 16:22 |
penguin42 | so what does line 3 of that look like? | 16:22 |
penguin42 | it does tell you exactly where the error is | 16:23 |
SuperEngineer | well that was I was expecting it say but line 3 = 1 word: ain | 16:25 |
SuperEngineer | [and that's not a spelling mistake | 16:26 |
penguin42 | can you pastebin that whole file | 16:26 |
SuperEngineer | all of the above software, synaptic etc give onlt that clue | 16:26 |
popey | the file is malformed | 16:26 |
SuperEngineer | *only | 16:26 |
popey | its quite clear | 16:26 |
SuperEngineer | popey please make it as clear to my brain as it is to yours | 16:27 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Please pastebin the file | 16:27 |
popey | E: Type ‘ain’ is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webapps-preview-precise.list | 16:27 |
popey | line three of the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webapps-preview-precise.list is malformed | 16:27 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: All those things share the same file parser, and that error is telling you exactly the error - now lets see the file and we'll be able to spot it | 16:27 |
popey | paste /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webapps-preview-precise.list and we will see line 3 has erroneous characters | 16:28 |
SuperEngineer | will do | 16:28 |
SuperEngineer | hmmm... that *was* the file I pasted | 16:29 |
penguin42 | ..307 just has the error - not the actual file | 16:30 |
mfraz74 | I have squid-deb-proxy running on a server, is there an easy way of removing redundant packages from its cache? | 16:30 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: My guess is that you pasted into that file from somewhere else (on the web?) and the previous line ends with an m and it should really be a single line that ends in main | 16:31 |
SuperEngineer | oops - checked the pastebin - ignore that last comment please | 16:31 |
SuperEngineer | paste coming up.. | 16:32 |
SuperEngineer | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1421333/ | 16:33 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Just delete that 3rd line | 16:33 |
popey | penguin42 wins :D | 16:33 |
SuperEngineer | as simple as that!? | 16:33 |
popey | yes | 16:34 |
popey | line should start "deb" or "deb-src" | 16:34 |
popey | not "ain" :) | 16:34 |
penguin42 | popey: Well, I'm disappointed the previous line didn't end with an m | 16:34 |
popey | half a star then | 16:34 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: All lines in these files should normally start with deb or deb-src or be a # comment, if they aren't then they're normally just plain wrong | 16:34 |
SuperEngineer | so delete "ain" or add an "m" to make it main or deb main or deb-src main or... | 16:35 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Just delete it | 16:36 |
SuperEngineer | will do | 16:36 |
SuperEngineer | ...and by the way - you're heroes, thankyou | 16:36 |
SuperEngineer | popey & penguin42 - I'm sure you'll both be surprised & amazed to know that synaptic, s/w sources & s/w centre are all now working aok ;) | 16:43 |
SuperEngineer | thankyou once again | 16:43 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: No problem; trust the error messages - they're normally pretty good | 16:44 |
SuperEngineer | [even more so if one looks at the orignal msg, not the secondary generated in synaptic! [that's the one I wronly posted] | 16:45 |
mungjerry | !ping | 16:47 |
lubotu3 | pong! | 16:47 |
mungjerry | looking for most lightweight linux distro for a eee pc 701 that works well OOTB - suggestiosn? | 16:47 |
SuperEngineer | don't think I'll be trying the webapps preview though as that's what snafu'd | 16:48 |
penguin42 | mungjerry: Puppy linux is one I've heard of but not tried | 16:48 |
mungjerry | using lubuntu 11.04 which needs an update, so wondering if anything else is better | 16:48 |
mungjerry | have to say that puppy is a bit ....strange | 16:48 |
penguin42 | mungjerry: How much RAM & storage have you got? | 16:49 |
mungjerry | prefer a *buntu or debian derivative. i see cruncheee is no longer | 16:49 |
mungjerry | ram 2gb | 16:49 |
mungjerry | although cpu well slow | 16:49 |
mungjerry | storage 4gb i think | 16:49 |
penguin42 | heck, 4GB hmm | 16:49 |
mungjerry | i know there's a few 701 owners usually in here | 16:50 |
penguin42 | mungjerry: If you can get a bear Ubuntu onto it and then add MATE it should work reasonably well | 16:50 |
brobostigon | i use debian and gnome3 on my eeepc 900, works well, but on the 701, debian would work well, but a lighter DE, like xfce. | 16:51 |
mungjerry | any processor scaling issues? | 16:51 |
brobostigon | mungjerry: not found anyhting yet, | 16:51 |
mungjerry | maybe its unique to 701 | 16:52 |
brobostigon | no idea. | 16:52 |
mungjerry | debian stable or testing brobostigon | 16:52 |
brobostigon | mungjerry: i am using sid, | 16:53 |
brobostigon | mungjerry: testing should work fine, | 16:53 |
mungjerry | any reason not to use sid/unstable? | 16:57 |
penguin42 | mungjerry: There is a clue in the name | 16:58 |
mungjerry | :P | 16:58 |
mungjerry | but its debian... | 16:58 |
brobostigon | mungjerry: at the time, gnome3 wasnt in testing, so had to go with sid. now that gnome3 is in testing, it doesnt really matter. | 16:58 |
penguin42 | mungjerry: It'll be fine most of the time, but then you'll get something fun (the one I remember was an accidental swap of uid/gid fields in /etc/passwd) | 16:59 |
SuperEngineer | right - let's get on with the sunday system clean-up now, once again - bbs | 16:59 |
mungjerry | i'm mainly gonna run chrome, irc and irc server on it | 17:00 |
brobostigon | mungjerry: but unless you can fix pretty much anything that will go wrong, dont go with sid, use testing, | 17:00 |
brobostigon | mungjerry: ah, a server, use stable then. | 17:00 |
mungjerry | i probably don't use it enough to need new stuff, running 11.04 atm for exaplone | 17:00 |
mungjerry | might settle for inbetween | 17:01 |
mungjerry | brobostigon: one more quicky - any problems with wifi driver in debian? | 17:06 |
mungjerry | is it included etc | 17:06 |
penguin42 | you normally have to install the -firmware packages for a lot of stuff in debian, but once you've done that it's normally ok | 17:06 |
brobostigon | mungjerry: not on the 900, no, the etheros driver is open and in kernel. but you need a fairly recent kernel. | 17:06 |
mungjerry | thanks chaps | 17:07 |
brobostigon | :) | 17:07 |
SuperEngineer | Ok.. now missing the central heating, still not found a "repairmyboiler" ppa - so cold my fungers art missung the keybird kays! | 18:00 |
SuperEngineer | [so no change there ☺] | 18:01 |
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penguin42 | SuperEngineer: Got eletric heaters? | 18:34 |
SuperEngineer | penguin42: yup - & the foresight to think about how much 2x halagen heaters are gonna cost by the time all is fixed | 18:37 |
jacobw | evening | 18:37 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: I've still not figured out the relative costs; sure gas ch is cheaper per kwh of gas v kwh of electric, but I'm assuming those heaters are more direct as to where it's needed | 18:38 |
SuperEngineer | penguin42: thanks sounds comforting to the wallet | 18:39 |
SuperEngineer | [I think I'm more annoyed [for now] that I couldn't fix it myself! -the temperature predicted if not fixed soon is just an added insult | 18:41 |
penguin42 | is it a modern boiler or an old one? | 18:42 |
SuperEngineer | old one - maybe time to replace | 18:43 |
SuperEngineer | [it's the third fail in as manty years | 18:43 |
SuperEngineer | ! fixed the last 2 myself tho | 18:43 |
lubotu3 | SuperEngineer: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 18:43 |
SuperEngineer | oi - l3 - who asked you to join in! | 18:44 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: We have a modern one; not a chance of us fixing it, and we've had to get the people in a few times in the space of 3 or 4 years | 18:44 |
penguin42 | SuperEngineer: It has the heating pump internal, it failed with a spectacular leak after a year, and there's a pressure problem somewhere and it doesn't like coming on on cold mornings sometimes (Gah it's a boiler!) | 18:45 |
SuperEngineer | ooo - nice modern condensing voiling that freezes when it get's cold - that's what I'm trying to avoid ;) | 18:45 |
SuperEngineer | let's all play get lubboto annoyed | 18:46 |
SuperEngineer | ! | 18:46 |
SuperEngineer | ! you're stupid | 18:46 |
SuperEngineer | [didn't dare respond to that - I win! lubotto | 18:47 |
penguin42 | don't taunt the bot | 18:47 |
SuperEngineer | ;) | 18:47 |
shauno | for you a crunchy, and taste good with ketchup | 18:47 |
SuperEngineer | crunchie + ketchup... nom nom! | 18:48 |
jacobw | wut | 18:48 |
shauno | I can't remember where that comes from now (besides the paraphrased tolkien); "Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! | 18:49 |
SuperEngineer | jacobw: you need to ask lubotu the answer to wut! | 18:49 |
jacobw | !wut | 18:50 |
jacobw | :( | 18:50 |
jacobw | oh, he's shy. he PM'd me | 18:50 |
SuperEngineer | ..me thinks it's surrendered | 18:51 |
shauno | or it was wise enough to rewrite the rules :) | 18:51 |
SuperEngineer | jacobw: what did it say? "don't taunt me - the others are doing enough to confuse me already"? | 18:52 |
* SuperEngineer sees people already adding new rules to lubotu just to account for those from other planets ;) | 18:54 | |
SuperEngineer | and if anybody wonders why the sillyness... I'm celebrating getting a snafu'd system back | 18:57 |
SuperEngineer | ...thanks to help from this here channel and it's people | 18:57 |
dutchie | long time no see #ubuntu-uk | 18:57 |
dutchie | how have you been? | 18:57 |
SuperEngineer | btw lubotu3 says... Sorry, I don't know anything about "you're stupid" - I rest my case ;) | 19:00 |
* SuperEngineer stops the taunting | 19:00 | |
SuperEngineer | o/ dutchie | 19:03 |
SuperEngineer | which reminds me - where's the MartijnVdS - hope you're ok | 19:05 |
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solarcloud_3scrn | jacobw, Here is that DIY computer rig community I was on about earlier :: https://plus.google.com/communities/114451196902016891873 | 19:22 |
jacobw | solarcloud_3scrn: thanks | 20:09 |
solarcloud_3scrn | k | 20:10 |
bigcalm | Hey kids :) | 20:31 |
bigcalm | peep peep | 20:33 |
jacobw | hey bigcalm | 21:04 |
AlanBell | popey: http://www.sorrysap.com/ | 21:11 |
popey | yeah | 21:12 |
popey | thats just as bad as the windows #droidrage tbh | 21:12 |
AlanBell | it is | 21:12 |
AlanBell | http://v6.openerp.com/node/1291 interesting article about it though | 21:13 |
AlanBell | I am not a fan of negative marketing in general these days | 21:13 |
dwatkins | Anything which challenges SAP is a good thing, imho, AlanBell. | 21:49 |
dwatkins | source: I use a SAP-based support ticketing system at work | 21:50 |
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