[00:01] <XMLnewbi> I'm only really familiar with php im starting here http://php.net/manual/en/book.sockets.php
[00:01] <escott> XMLnewbi, i would be very careful running a service with php. how is the data currently delivered to you?
[00:02] <XMLnewbi> java program watching a websocket updating a database on my server. (java was wrote for me, not by me)
[00:03] <XMLnewbi> its updating everytime there is a trade on mtgox; 5-30 seconds ish
[00:03] <escott> XMLnewbi, ok. so that java program opens and listens (not watches) on a socket (ie runs a service). and you can just grab it out of the db. why do you need cron?
[00:04] <XMLnewbi> I need to perform a function on that data, then store it in a new table. As the data comes in
[00:05] <escott> XMLnewbi, you need to modify and broadcast the new value? how will you broadcast your result? to whom and in what format are they expecting?
[00:05] <escott> XMLnewbi, sounds like this is all in the database. in which case check if your DB supports triggers
[00:05] <XMLnewbi> livestream on a webpage, and ill be calling to it a lot in email/ext
[00:05] <escott> XMLnewbi, the insert operation can trigger a function in the DB which inserts into another table
[00:06] <XMLnewbi> hmm ok, im useing mysql ill look into triggers
[00:06] <escott> XMLnewbi, you probably want the mysql variant of "after insert for each row" or "after commit for each row" might be better
[00:07] <XMLnewbi> im probally going to have to dig into this java app updating the database arnt I
[00:08] <RickZilla> disk utility isn't showing up in my software list, even though synaptic is showing it as installed, any ideas what could be going on? running ubuntu 12.10
[00:09] <escott> XMLnewbi, the trigger would be in the database in the mysql scripting language
[00:09] <escott> XMLnewbi, you could also do it via java which has some advantages and disadvantages.
[00:09] <escott> XMLnewbi, if you are not comfortable with sql commit semantics and rollback i would go with modifying the java program
[00:11] <apk> I created a new user, logged into it but it doesnt have sudo rights so now I cant log in to another user and i cant reboot
[00:11] <apk> how do I solve this?
[00:11] <XMLnewbi> im scraping by with phpmyadmin lol, and java is gibberish to me. but thats I think Im understanding my options
[00:11] <escott> apk, sudo usermod -a -G sudo username
[00:11] <XMLnewbi> thanks*
[00:11] <RickZilla> If I create a HD partition using gparted (or similar), and I want to install ubuntu in that partition, do I need to manually move that drive to the top of the boot order in bios every time I want to run ubuntu?
[00:11] <escott> XMLnewbi, if java is gibberish to you.... this is going to be very hard for you to do
[00:12] <escott> RickZilla, no
[00:12] <RickZilla> escott: Would it just come up in grub, like it normally would?
[00:12] <apk> escott: but the user is not in the sudoers file...
[00:12] <SolarisBoy> is there anyway to boot=casper from grub2 without using nfs?
[00:13] <escott> apk, so login as one of the users who is an admin, or boot to recovery console
[00:13] <SolarisBoy> rather without using r/o media or from the local disk
[00:14] <escott> RickZilla, ubuntu's grub will present a list of OSes installed on the system. if you have some other linux OS their grub would hopefully do the same, but i can't speak for them
[00:14] <apk> escott: when i try to reboot it says i dont have the rights
[00:14] <apk> need to be root
[00:15] <escott> apk, you are going to have to logout so logout to start
[00:19] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip E: Unable to locate package fglrx-legacy
[00:19] <verysoftoiletppr> great..
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> weltzooo: did you run:   sudo apt-get update
[00:20] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip yes
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> verysoftoiletppr: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[00:21] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip precise
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> verysoftoiletppr: should be ok then, I don't believe you'll need the driver from the ppa
[00:23] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip what do you mean.. I uninstalled fglrx
[00:23] <apk> Would Ubuntu make a good mediacenter?
[00:24] <apk> Im thinking buying a 800GB harddrive, a decent processor and make it so Í can log into it from my laptop then have it running constantly.
[00:24] <Guest10102> Does anyone know if displaylink dual head USB 3.0 adapters work in Ubuntu?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> verysoftoiletppr: just removing the ppa is fine
[00:26] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip I need drivers right?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> verysoftoiletppr: you may find the GPU runs with the open source driver
[00:27] <emes> I've been noticing that my compositing is slow. I have an ivy bridge laptop with intel graphics. it seems the intel driver is being used. what else can I check?
[00:28] <escott> emes, what version of ubuntu
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> emes: does the system have a make and model?
[00:28] <escott> apk, yes
[00:28] <emes> 12.10 thinkpad T430s, escott, ActionParsnip
[00:28] <phunyguy_t430s> same thinkpad I have
[00:28] <phunyguy_t430s> <---
[00:29] <phunyguy_t430s> no compositing issues, however.
[00:29] <escott> emes, i dont know that compositing would be any faster. what makes you say it is slow
[00:29] <emes> escott: noticeable hanging
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> emes: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display    can you use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com   to host the text
[00:29] <escott> emes, when doing what
[00:29] <phunyguy_t430s> emes, yeah I have no issues on this laptop.
[00:30] <escott> emes, "hanging" could mean a lot of things. the last i would think of is display
[00:30] <emes> windows don't close smoothly
[00:31] <emes> if I try to drag a window around it might jump
[00:31] <n0sq> Ithis is weird, nmap shows my smtp server filtered to the outside world but i am still getting mail - i can't telnet to the server from another network either
[00:31] <phunyguy_t430s> emes, lets both run that command that ActionParsnip said, and we will compare results
[00:31] <emes> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1420063/
[00:31] <emes> btw I have 6 workspaces
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> emes: did you see this: http://www.linlap.com/lenovo_thinkpad_t430s
[00:32] <phunyguy_t430s> emes: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1420064/
[00:32] <phunyguy_t430s> emes, no you go
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> emes: there is a long boot option you can add, may help
[00:32] <phunyguy_t430s> now*
[00:33] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip but won't the official drivers deliver more performance?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> verysoftoiletppr: possibly, its about what the drivers support thoughj
[00:35] <emes> ActionParsnip: it doesn't seem to explain what the purpose of those boot options are
[00:36] <emes> ActionParsnip: looks like powersaving stuff
[00:36] <Sarkynin> Hi!
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> emes: make the video better...
[00:36] <Sarkynin> Can someone help me with an installation problem? I'm new to Ubuntu ._.
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> emes: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub     find the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" and change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.i915_enable_rc6=7 i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 i915.lvds_downclock=1 pcie_aspm=force"
[00:37] <phunyguy_t430s> !ask | Sarkynin
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> emes: save the new file, close gedit and run: sudo update-grub
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> emes: reboot to test, if its no good, you can always remove it easily
[00:38] <Sarkynin> It's been ~10 minutes that the installator is blocked on "ubuntu CRON[3825]: (root ) CMD ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly).
[00:38] <Sarkynin> What should I do? x_x
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Sarkynin: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[00:38] <Sarkynin> Umm, no. ._.
[00:39] <Sarkynin> Is there a risk for my computer now? ._.
[00:39] <locojay> hi i just installed ubuntu 12.04 alternate and would like to upgrade to 12.10. going to updatemanager i don't get a 12.10 upgrade question?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Sarkynin: you may need to cancel the install
[00:39] <locojay> how can i uprade from cmd
[00:39] <Deep6> anyone done anything with  a synology nas here by chance?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Sarkynin: you havene't tested the data you used so there may be errors in the data
[00:39] <emes> ActionParsnip: trying, brb
[00:39] <phunyguy_t430s> locojay, you have to go into software dources and allow upgrading to any version
[00:39] <phunyguy_t430s> sources*
[00:40] <phunyguy_t430s> it is a dropdown box option
[00:40] <Sarkynin> How can I cancel the install...?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Sarkynin: may just have to reboot, are you using wubi to install?
[00:41] <Sarkynin> No.
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Sarkynin: good
[00:41] <Sarkynin> LiLi
[00:41] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip yep.. it doesn't work well enough with the open source drivers
[00:42] <verysoftoiletppr> very slow
[00:42] <Sarkynin> I used an iso I downloaded from ubuntu-fr (yeah I'm french)
[00:42] <phunyguy_t430s> locojay, http://i.imgur.com/sZ6vz.png  <---- see bottom option
[00:42] <Sarkynin> I'll try to shut down. Thanks!
[00:43] <ChogyDan> what program should I use to record from my webcam?
[00:43] <Sarkynin> (And download the iso again, and actually check the md5 value.)
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Sarkynin: as long as it passes MD5 sum you can get it from literally anywhere
[00:43] <Sarkynin> Okay, bye! o/
[00:43] <fsvieira> hello, I installed something local, exported the path var in bashrc, but when trying to run the programs in geany it says "/bin/sh program" not found how can I solve this ?
[00:44] <Sarkynin> Umm? It finished installing.
[00:44] <Sarkynin> I'll reboot to see if it was correctly installed...
[00:44] <emes> ActionParsnip: does seem better at the moment. we'll see if the slowness comes back. thanks!
[00:44] <Troy^> anyone here use logitech g15 or g110 keyboards etc. with ubuntu?
[00:44] <phunyguy_t430s> locojay, in your case it may only notify you of LTS releases, and even trying sudo do-release-upgrade -p may not work.
[00:44] <escott> fsvieira, what is geany
[00:45] <phunyguy_t430s> so you must change it in software sources like I suggested and it will work.
[00:45] <emes> ActionParsnip: could also be that my x session had been running for a month, but I'd prefer to think that that wasn't the issue
[00:45] <Troy^> escott: an ide/text editor for programming
[00:45] <Troy^> escott: but if you are looking at that. I would suggest going with sublime text 2 instead. Much better.
[00:46] <escott> fsvieira, gui programs do not parse bashrc so they won't see your PATH modifications
[00:47] <Sarkynin_> It correctly installed, this time.
[00:47] <Sarkynin_> I don't know how it happened, but the installation finished!
[00:47] <Sarkynin_> (And I have my wallpaper from seven)
[00:47] <Sarkynin_> Thanks for helping me! o/
[00:48] <atlus> why is ubuntu killing my bandwith!!!
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Sargun: no worries :)
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> atlus: in what way?
[00:51] <apk> How do I log in as root?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> apk: you don't
[00:51] <Troy^> fsvieira: use sublime text 2 and you can edit the way your scripts execute. By editing a build or creating your own. sublime text 2 is always way better then geany
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> apk: if you want a root terminal, run:    sudo -i
[00:55] <Phaba> ActionParsnip, whats the diff between sudo su and sudo -i?
[00:55] <Troy^> man sudo?
[00:55] <Phaba> ceebs
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Phaba: sudo su   your profile and environment is roots, if you use:  sudo -i   your environment will be your own
[00:55] <escott> Phaba, how the environment is handled. sudo -i is correct for ubuntu.
[00:56] <Phaba> okay thanks guys :D
[01:00] <Guest10102> are displaylink dual head adapters compatible with ubuntu
[01:01] <Sargun> ActionParsnip: eh?
[01:01] <Rob1337> Hi. My internet speed is normally about 20 mb/s, but when I use ubuntu 12.10 and wi-fi my speeds are unstable and closer to 2 mb/s on average. I get normal speeds when using windows 7 (wired or wireless) or when connected via LAN cable in ubuntu. My laptop is a Gateway NV53a and my wireless card is a Atheros AR9287. How do I fix this?
[01:01] <escott> Guest10102, rather new technology... my guess is maybe but its probably buggy
[01:02] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip, I think you gave me a solution the other day. It worked temporarily but now things are back to the way they were.
[01:03] <Rob1337> Anyone around?
[01:03] <blondielegs> im having a problem with my graphics card after i tried to update the driver. it wont let me go back to default
[01:03] <blondielegs> can anyone help
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: does it involve: nohwcrypt=1
[01:03] <Guest10102> escott, do you know of a solution other than displaylink to connect 1 or 2 monitors to 1 usb port
[01:03] <Sivik> blondielegs, what kind of drive?
[01:03] <Sivik> driver*
[01:04] <blondielegs> nv
[01:04] <blondielegs> something
[01:04] <escott> Guest10102, i really dont know. thats why i was throwing the most general answer out there
[01:04] <blondielegs> how do i look it up on the black screen that looks like dos
[01:05] <Guest10102> escott, ok thanks
[01:05] <fsvieira> Troy^, the problem is that I want to run things with /bin/sh and I like geany
[01:05] <Sivik> lspci is a good start blondielegs
[01:05] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure. You gave me a long terminal command and it worked at the time after I rebooted. Things are back to the way they were today though. I guess I should have written down the command for future reference, but I thought things were fixed at the time...
[01:05] <Sivik> that will show us what kind of card you have
[01:06] <Troy^> fsvieira: i understand that. for that sublime text is the way to go
[01:06] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: After I started having problems again today, someone directed me to follow as instructed here: http://pleph.appspot.com/init/posts/view/2657865
[01:06] <Rob1337> I did but there was no affect
[01:06] <Rob1337> *effect
[01:06] <blondielegs> nvidia gforce 6200
[01:06] <blondielegs> nv44a
[01:06] <yeats> fsvieira: Troy^: note that sublime text (while very cool) is not free/open source software - just FYI
[01:07] <escott> fsvieira, i think ~/.profile might be parsed on X session login
[01:07] <volume_8_> Greetings. I was at a friend's house. He is not technical and I woudn't expect him to know Unix, but he was actually using Ubuntu. A casual Ubuntu user.
[01:07] <volume_8_> So the thing is, that he was getting a "You need to update your stuff" tray icon all the time.
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: try:  sudo modprobe -r ath9k; sleep 2; sudo modprobe ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[01:08] <Troy^> yeats: it does not require you 'buy' it though.
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: is it then ok?
[01:08] <volume_8_> When he was clicking it, instead of having a "You have outdated stuff. We are updating them" kind-of dialog, it just says "Your computer is up to date".
[01:08] <yeats> Troy^: correct - free as in cost, but not as in freedom
[01:08]  * yeats returns to on-topic conversation ;-)
[01:08] <volume_8_> The tray icon was an alarming red sign.
[01:08] <volume_8_> Why does Ubuntu have alarming red signs to say "Your computer is up to date"?
[01:08] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: Does ; indicate multiple lines?
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> volume_8_: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[01:09] <volume_8_> ActionParsnip: I'm not there anymore.
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: its all one command.....
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> volume_8_: how do you mean?
[01:09] <volume_8_> I'm not able to access his computer. I'm not at his house anymore.
[01:09] <Rob1337> k, i wasn't sure because I'm not used to seeing "sudo" anywhere other than the start of the line
[01:09] <volume_8_> Although, I guess that's not the intended behavior.
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> volume_8_: I see, weel, next time you are run the command and pastebin the text
[01:10] <volume_8_> Was it a bug in his system?
[01:10] <Rob1337> is there a symbol that is used to seperate multiple commands?
[01:10] <escott> volume_8_, because he needs to update
[01:10] <volume_8_> We updated once.
[01:10] <volume_8_> Then the same tray icon appeared.
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> volume_8_: did you not install an SSH server and setup port forwarding so you can access?
[01:10] <volume_8_> We tried to update again, and then we got "Your system is up to date".
[01:10] <volume_8_> ActionParsnip: no, I was not that dedicated.
[01:10] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip, I ran the command. Do I need to reboot?
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> volume_8_: the output of the command will tell us a lot
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: no, or it will undo what you did....
[01:11] <volume_8_> OK.
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: this isn't windows
[01:11] <Troy^> where is the dns settings located? i need to change it. my isp dns settings blow.
[01:11] <volume_8_> Well, I guess I'll hop in next tiem I'm able to get that ouput.
[01:11] <volume_8_> Thanks.
[01:13] <fsvieira> escott, thanks I will try
[01:13] <Troy^> what file do i edit to change my dns nameserver? my DNS is not working randomly...
[01:13] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: I just did a speed test, speeds are now about 10mb/s. Better but still not up to 20 mb/s...what does that mean?
[01:14] <Troy^> Rob1337: you using a wireless card?
[01:14] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: K, I did another test. Nevermind, down to really slow again.
[01:14] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:15] <Troy^> lol nice netsplit
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: there are lots of people posting about the atheros chip you have
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc    (sorry if I asked already)
[01:15] <Troy^> Why did my DNS come back when the netsplit happened?
[01:16] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: "quantal"
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: ah, lots of people saying update kernel but quantal should do it
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: could try raring liveCD, see if its any better
[01:18] <amigamia> when you do a startup it says applying cpu microcode update.. is it actually applying microcode?
[01:18] <Rob1337> "raring liveCD"?
[01:18] <bibi23> hi, I have a file only readable by a given user and I'd like to know when an unauthorized user tries to read it, ideally some logs on a file, is it possible? thx
[01:18] <Rob1337> You mean run in liveCD and see how fast that is?
[01:18] <apk> Is there some good canonical tutorial for learning linux? like mounting filesystems and harddrives, managing users, activaing and unactivating peripherals etc?
[01:19] <escott> bibi23, perhaps with SELinux
[01:20] <escott> bibi23, but ubuntu uses apparmor. i bet you could do the same with apparmor... not sure how
[01:20] <escott> bibi23, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
[01:22] <bibi23> escott: ok thanks, I guess it's possible, it says "Complaining/Learning: profile violations are permitted and logged."
[01:22] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: I'll do a LiveCD boot using my Ubuntu USB and see how internet speeds are there. Brb.
[01:25] <alien2050> How can I add a second choice to "OPEN WITH" in Nautilus and also thunderbird attachments ? I have a document in excel format but I would like to open it using the default libreoffice OR openoffice, I have fiddled with mimeinfo.cache, defaults.list and home/.local/share/applications/mime*, still doesn't show, even after reboot... is there abetter way or another mime manager out there to help nautilus?
[01:29] <apk> Why does windows need reinstalls and linux not? fragmentation must be a problem on linux too?
[01:30] <samphippen> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-425412.html
[01:30] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: I'm booted from LiveUSB. Speeds are what they should be.
[01:31] <blondielegs> how do i find and open more repositories to find linux-headers
[01:32] <joker_> I installed samba to enable file and folder sharing, but each time I connect to the Internet or even I connect to the LAN, the samba returns an error, it says "a system software has occured an error, report it or ot?", but samba does not quit, and it still serves well. but this is annoying, I hope there's someone can tell me why this is happening.Thanks
[01:32] <Fudge> apk  NTFS and EXT are different file systems
[01:32] <Fudge> blondielegs  have you installed linux-headers-generic
[01:32] <blondielegs> how do i do that
[01:32] <Fudge> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[01:32] <Fudge> it will make sure you always have the latest headers with your kernel
[01:33] <jesusemelendezm> hey guys, I think Richard Stallman said something about Ubuntu.... this week
[01:33] <apk> Fudge: ok so EXT is the reason linux has less fragmentation?
[01:34] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: Do you want me to test anything from the LiveUSB boot, or can I switch back to my install?
[01:34] <Fudge> apk  yes I believe so, try a google ext ntfs differences
[01:34] <apk> im tired of my windows computer lagging and having degrading performance, i just want basic things to alwys work.
[01:34] <Fudge> apk  any OS will have its downfalls
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: then the newer kernel in raring doesn't have the issue. you can either 1. Hang ou  and wait for raring to be released    2. Upgrade to raring and all its pre-release fun til April next year    3. Grab the raring kernel and install it in Quantal
[01:34] <apk> are all formats like mkv etc supported by linux?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: 1. will keep you fully supported 2. will give you support in #ubuntu+1  and 3. will mean a lot of issues will not be supported here due to 3rd party kernel
[01:35] <Rob1337> What does raring mean exactly?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> apk: with codecs, yes
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: raring ringtail, its the codename of 13.04
[01:36] <Zael> has anybody managed to install ati drivers off the website to 12.10?
[01:36] <DrManhattan> oh heck yeah! I got everything working properly - WOL, zoneminder, everything. THanks ubuntu devs!
[01:36]  * DrManhattan happily dances around
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/ubuntu-13-04-named-raring-ringtail
[01:37] <apk> What do I need for a mediacenter? just a harddrive and a processor? I want to be able to steer it via mouse on my TV, otherwise it should be just like a normal computer
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> apk: you can install xbmc if you want, its in the official repos
[01:38] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: Oh...I'm just in the same Quantal usb I used for my current install. Does the 12.10 live usb use a different kernel than a 12.10 install?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: should be the same
[01:39] <crimsonmane> apk: you need Plex
[01:39] <mark_>  Hello.  I want my default browser to be Chrome, but whenever I set it as default (through preferred applications or the browser itself) it always goes to not being the default.  How can I go about fixing that?
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> mark_: isn't there an option in chrome to set it as the default
[01:40] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: For whatever reason, internet is fine in my Ubuntu live usb even though it's not fine in the OS installed from it...
[01:41] <root__> hello, just testing my new irssi client
[01:41] <mark_> There is one, ActionParsnip, but I have tried that and it still does not stay.
[01:42] <Flannel> root__: It works.  But it's generally not advised to IRC as root.
[01:42] <Phaba> how do i find out whats using .ruby.bin
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: maybe its the newer kernel causing the issue
[01:43] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: Switching back to my regular install, brb
[01:43] <escott> Phaba, pstree might tell you, or ps aux might let you see enough to identify the executable
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> Phaba: lsof | grep -i ruby
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | root__
[01:44] <Phaba> thanks guys :D
[01:45] <Phaba> man its metasploit
[01:45] <Phaba> daemon should even be running
[01:45] <Phaba> WUT
[01:46] <root__> thanks, I am just testing my irssi client on my backtrack machine. I am new to irc in general so forgive my ignorance.
[01:46] <root__> normally I dont like being root ever
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> root__: backtrack is supported in #backtrack-linux
[01:46] <apk> can i not log in as root in ubuntu? just use sudo?
[01:47] <root__> apk- that is just borrowing root powers
[01:47] <escott> !backtrack | root__
[01:47] <Phaba> apk,  they told you, use sudo -i, that is root
[01:48] <Phaba> apk, everything you execute is then root, the # indicates this on your terminal
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> apk: its not advised or even required
[01:48] <root__> thanks, like I said I was just testing out my new client, that is all...
[01:48] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[01:48] <phunyguy_t430s> suuuup
[01:49] <Phaba> root__ why you using irssi?
[01:49] <BluesKaj> hey ActionParsnip , you're up late :)
[01:49] <phunyguy_t430s> !ot | (lol)?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: nights today dude, nearly 2am so 5.5 hours to go
[01:50] <BluesKaj> ahha, irc'ing on the job eh
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: hells yeah
[01:50] <phunyguy_t430s> BluesKaj, I do the same thing (see phunyguy_work)
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> apk: why do you want to? What do you think you will gain?
[01:51] <Phaba> ActionParsnip, where do you work that allows irc access??
[01:51] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_t430s,it's a good way to kill the time :)
[01:51] <phunyguy_t430s> interesting, so who is "phunyguy"? Must be the Mac my daughter powered up.
[01:52] <phunyguy_t430s> didnt think I was signed in on it.
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Phaba: our firewalls allow SSH out, so I SSH home, then use irssi to chat
[01:53] <Phaba> haha, smooth
[01:53] <phunyguy> yup, it's the mac.
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> Phaba: itsthe only time I use irssi, i usually use Pidgin
[01:53] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, no X forwarding , but that's so bad
[01:53] <phunyguy_t430s> my work doesnt allow it, but I found TCP port 1935 open going out, so I set up a VPN server at home on that port.
[01:54] <phunyguy_t430s> so I just grap an IP on my home network and proxy what I want.
[01:54] <Phaba> do you work security or something??
[01:54] <Joshua__> Hey! I have an issue with the Installation.
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: I don't have admion on my work pc, so no xming for me :)
[01:55] <phunyguy_t430s> ask away Joshua__
[01:55] <BluesKaj> not so bad rather ...I'm tired ...was along day
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> Joshua__: wassup?
[01:55] <phunyguy_t430s> dont let our offtopic chat stop ya
[01:55] <phunyguy_t430s> it got quiet for a bit  :)
[01:55] <Joshua__> Hey action! I have an issue installing ubuntu. Checked the forums. Tired. need help!
[01:55] <phunyguy_t430s> !ask | Joshua__
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> Joshua__: what is the issue?
[01:56] <godbod> Joshua__: can you describe the issue ?
[01:57] <Joshua__> I have windows 7 ultimate installed currently on my laptop. I want to dual boot Ubuntu12.04. Here's the thing, I run the installation from the flashdrive and choose the option "manually specify partitions". The Windows drives do show up.
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> Joshua__: use Win7 disk manager and resize the NTFS partition, then boot to the install media and install to the free space
[01:59] <min|dvir|us> Does anyone know how to get a 16-pair hexadecimal representation of a .pub?
[02:00] <Joshua__> ...in the partition table. And when i try to create the /boot or /root partions from the freespace, it does create one and next i see "unusable space". What is this?/
[02:00] <phunyguy_t430s> o.O
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Joshua__: you don't need a separate /boot partition
[02:03] <Joshua__> I have around 350GB of free space. I'm trying to use the "specify partitions manually" option and install ubuntu 12.04. My windows 7 is running. And as I mentioned, I want to dual boot. how do i go about this way? I have the "C" drive and the "D" drive and the system reserved for the the win7 [obviously].
[02:03] <Nemix> hi
[02:04] <Nemix> is it possible to move the icon from ubuntu 12.10 from top right corner to left right corner?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> Joshua__: resize a patition and make free space, then boot to the ubuntu install media and use the new free space
[02:05] <BluesKaj> brb.have to check the other drives
[02:05] <Nemix> is it possible to move the icon from ubuntu 12.10 from top right corner to left right corner?
[02:05] <Nemix> left top corner sorry
[02:06] <cowsquad> can anyone help me, I am trying to do some homework assignment. I have created a script menu and on option 4 i prompted the user to attach a text file only. How do i make sure the user doesnt attach binary files?
[02:07] <tryingUbuntu> Hi guys... I want to shut down remotley at 9pm    I get command not found??  $ sudo shutdown -h 18:45 "Server is going down for maintenance"
[02:07] <elena-IK> I have problems with poor sshfs performance. with rsync or scp I get around 128 kB/s, with sshfs I get between 10 and 60 kB/s. is that normal?
[02:07] <Joshua__> ActionParsnip I have free space. why is the need to resize a partition arise?
[02:07] <cowsquad> I have tried a if statement in bash like this: if [ $userinput = *.txt ]; then send a email; else echo "text files only"
[02:07] <cowsquad> but it doesnt work
[02:08] <alien2050> cowsquad: hint.... have a look at the "file" command ;)
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Joshua__: is it free as in unpartitioned?
[02:09] <cowsquad> alien2050 yes file command list the type of file right?
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Joshua__: having free space on an NTFS partition, and having space on the drive unpartitioned are very different
[02:10] <alien2050> cowsquad: yes it does.... now if you combine it with another simple command that searches for stuff, you can grab the result and put it in a variable in your script or use it on the fly to check
[02:11] <cowsquad> alien2050 I am barely starting to learn bash, so I have no idea how to do that
[02:12] <Joshua__> Exactly. I'm creating the /root, /boot, and the rest from UNpartitioned space.! And one more thing, the min i create a /root or /boot partition as a primary, the next thing i get to see is "Unusable space". However if i create a swap partion first, I dont see the "unusable space". after this when i'm creating the /root or /boot or /home, I can. But I dont see a "primary" or a "logical" option that i can choose from while allocating
[02:12] <elena-IK> If I run find the first time, it takes quite some time. If I run it a second time after that, it's done almost instantly. what is caching there? find? file system?
[02:13] <Joshua__> No no no! I'm talking about FREE SPACE alone. The unpartioned space. Not freespace in ana existing partion.
[02:13] <SunMoonStar> anyone else periodically gets failed attempt trying to resume from suspend/hibernate?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> Joshua__: make an extended partition of the space, then use logical partitions. Your drive can only hold 4 primary partitions, the extended partition gets around this
[02:13] <SunMoonStar> 12.10
[02:13] <phunyguy_t430s> SunMoonStar, I do.... have you searched for a bug in launchpad?
[02:13] <SunMoonStar> no i came here first
[02:14] <phunyguy_t430s> there may be a bug.
[02:14] <SunMoonStar> ubuntu asked me to report the problem so i'm sure it's been reported
[02:14] <alien2050> cowsquad: we all started somewhere :) Do you like to learn or you just want the answer and don't care at all about bash? Cuz some of us actually do care ;)  So what is the command that searches for stuff
[02:14] <phunyguy_t430s> you should create a launchpad account, fund the bug report, and then subscribe to it.
[02:14] <phunyguy_t430s> find*
[02:14] <SunMoonStar> true..
[02:14] <Joshua__> While installing win7 I deliberately created two partitions alone and left the remaining as unallocated. So u want me to boot into windows and do what now?
[02:15] <SunMoonStar> I even want to contribute to something but I am only somewhat capable in python and never added to a project before
[02:15] <cowsquad> man Ive been working on this assignment for like 7 hours. I dont give up, and i Know grep search for specific words inside a text file
[02:15] <tryingUbuntu> does anyone know the command to shut down computer at a specific time.. Google isnt much help
[02:15] <alien2050> cowsquad: you're looking for a critically useful command called grep
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> SunMoonStar: find a project and ask if you can play :D
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: use the 'at' scheduler
[02:15] <alien2050> cowsquad: do "man grep" to learn it, it's actually super useful
[02:15] <escott> tryingUbuntu, cron job calling shutdown -h now
[02:16] <tryingUbuntu> sorry guys????  AT scheduler??
[02:16] <SunMoonStar> ● locate – Find files by name
[02:16] <SunMoonStar> ● find – Search for files in a directory hierarchy
[02:16] <SunMoonStar> We will also look at a command that is often used with file search commands to process
[02:16] <SunMoonStar> the resulting list of files:
[02:16] <SunMoonStar> ●
[02:16] <SunMoonStar> xargs – Build and execute command lines from standard input
[02:16] <SunMoonStar> In addition, we will introduce a couple of commands to assist us in or exploration:
[02:16] <FloodBot1> SunMoonStar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:16] <escott> tryingUbuntu, or more simply shutdown -h HH:MM
[02:16] <alien2050> cowsquad: also pastebin your code so I can have a look and help a little
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: what time do you want to shutdown?
[02:17] <Joshua__> Action. what now?
[02:17] <tryingUbuntu> escott   thanks.. I tried  $ sudo shutdown -h 18:45 "Server is going down for maintenance" and got command not found,.,.,, thanks
[02:17] <phunyguy_t430s> Joshua__, if you type out the whole nickname verbatim, it actually sends him a highlight
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Joshua__: drives have a limit of 4 primary partitions, so if you want more than 4 partitions you will need an extended partition. Within the extended partition you will make logical partitions
[02:18] <phunyguy_t430s> Joshua__, that partition trick ActionParsnip is talking about dates waaaaaaay back, it's a very useful trick.
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: run:   sudo at 18:45       hit ENTER, then type:    shutdown -h now      press ENTER, then press CTRL+D
[02:18] <SunMoonStar> Does anyone have any opinions on Ubuntu's Backup program vs grsync?
[02:18] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip     escott got me.. thanks for your time yesterday with my sound issue.. I guess reinstalling alsa was the key.. Thx
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> SunMoonStar: try both, see which you prefer
[02:19] <Joshua__> ActionParsnip ook. I'm booting in windows and creating that extended thing. Thanks again. You saved me thrice!
[02:19] <SunMoonStar> see I was trying to avoid trying both :)
[02:19] <Joshua__> How do i join a different channel.?? I got backtrack issues too. So..
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> Joshua__: I try
[02:19] <cowsquad> http://pastebin.com/72fXhj38 there it is, is the very last function
[02:19] <alien2050> Got another question for ne1... I'm trying to suppress the message "blabla.sh is an executable text file Do you want to "RUN in terminal" "Display" "Cancel" "Run" " you know the one, it's a generic message that identifies executables .sh on the desktop for example... how can I prevent it from opening this box everytime and just run the script (at my own risks of course)!!!
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> SunMoonStar: I'd use rsync but I'm old school. Dejadup has a nice UI
[02:20] <phunyguy_t430s> Joshua__, /join #channelname
[02:20] <phunyguy_t430s> with the forward slash
[02:20] <SunMoonStar> ActionParsnip: thanks
[02:20] <tryingUbuntu> ActionParsnip  FYI  escotts is easier     shutdown -h 21:00  YOU guys are really great for doing what you do.. thanks again and I think I will stay with UBUNTU
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: right click it and hit properties. I believe there will be an option to 'run in terminal'
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: both ways are good, learning both  is also good, using 'at' you can schedule any command for a time. Is like a one-shot cron job
[02:21] <tryingUbuntu> cool
[02:21] <Joshua__> I'm sorry to interject , but why isn't the backtrack-linux channel not working since a month and half?
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> tryingUbuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV   (scroll to the bottom) for example, you can schedule an AV scan late at night :)
[02:21] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: nope, but I actually found the inverse in properties, there is a check box called "Allow executing file as program"
[02:21] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: Hi btw!
[02:22] <Joshua__> phunguy_t430s Thanks and that's one hell of a name!
[02:22] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: I made a mistake earlier. Speeds were fast when booted in my liveUSB because I had the lan cable still plugged in, so i was getting lan results rather than wireless results. I retested with my wireless and internet is slow from the liveUSB, just like in my install.
[02:22] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: It's something to do with the 12.10 kernel I guess
[02:22] <phunyguy_t430s> Joshua__, we can't control backtrack IRC, it is a question for them.
[02:22] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: maybe there is something in gconf-editor?
[02:23] <Joshua__> phunguy_t430s alright.
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: try the 13.04 ISO in USB
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: you could make a .desktop file for it and use that to run it. Put the script in /usr/bin :)
[02:25] <phunyguy_t430s> wait, there is a 13.04 ISO already?
[02:25] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: Where do I get the 13.04 iso?
[02:25] <phunyguy_t430s> I thought there was only going to be a single Beta for that?
[02:26] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: Thank I think you're right, .desktop should do the job, lemme try
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: the web
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: you can copy one from ~/.config/autostart and change the lines as you need ;)
[02:27] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: Cool, I didn't know!!!
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: much easier, they are simple too not like the ones in /usr/share/applications
[02:27] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: K, downloading now. Is there any particularly good program for burning the .iso to a flashdrive in ubuntu? I've always done this from windows before.
[02:28] <BluesKaj> odd when i set the main HDD as the boot drive in the bios  and installed grub to / , I get the grub rescue , but for some reason grub got installed to the windows drive ,, I can't get my head around that ....seems strange to me
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: unetbootin
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: you don't really burn it, just transfer it. But I know what you mean
[02:29] <verysoftoiletppr> hi
[02:29] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip do you know how to install drivers for a nvidia geforce 6600GT
[02:29] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I know, I just wasn't sure what the appropriate term for "sending something to a usb in a way comparable to as if you were burning it to a cd" would be...
[02:29] <Rob1337> lol, "transfer" sounds good enough
[02:30] <phunyguy_t430s> ActionParsnip, Rob1337, there is a program called "Startup Disk Creator" in Ubuntu built it.
[02:30] <phunyguy_t430s> works a charm
[02:31] <cntb> not a big issue - on 12.04 unity had 2 users standard and admin no problem here. installed google chrome - not chromium - admin uses it standard user has it<- no problem<here created another standard user after installing gogle chrome - second sandard user doesn not hsave google chrome - why the problem and what solution . thanks guys in advance
[02:31] <almoxarife> phunyguy_t430s: +1
[02:31] <phunyguy_t430s> Is regular Google Chrome supported here?
[02:32] <almoxarife> phunyguy_t430s: yes
[02:32] <phunyguy_t430s> hmm..... didnt think it was
[02:32] <phunyguy_t430s> Chromium maybe
[02:32] <almoxarife> phunyguy_t430s: like any other app
[02:32] <phunyguy_t430s> Chromeium ~= Chrome
[02:32] <phunyguy_t430s> er
[02:32] <phunyguy_t430s> Chromium != Chrome
[02:32] <Rob1337> I've never seen chrome for linux before. I just chromium.
[02:32] <cntb> funyguy why not help?
[02:33] <almoxarife> phunyguy_t430s: i prefer chromium, but its just cause thats what i started with
[02:33] <Rob1337> I thought Chromium = Open source project which chrome gets all its code from, so pretty much identical, no?
[02:33] <RickZilla> You can install the Chrome deb directly from Google and install it that way
[02:33] <phunyguy_t430s> never said anybody wasnt helping.  I asked if it was supported.
[02:33] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_t430s, you might have trouble with flash on chrome ..chromium browser works better IME
[02:33] <phunyguy_t430s> I thought items not in the repo weren't supported
[02:33] <RickZilla> Rob1337: Depends on what extensions work for it
[02:33] <RickZilla> define supported
[02:33] <phunyguy_t430s> *shrug*
[02:34] <phunyguy_t430s> anything Ubuntu puts in the repo?
[02:34] <phunyguy_t430s> aka controlled by ubuntu?
[02:34] <cntb> question is why existing standard user got it from admin install while the new standard user after install doesnot have it?
[02:34] <RickZilla> Well, if you ask a question about it on here, it may or may not get answered
[02:34] <phunyguy_t430s> thats what I am saying
[02:34] <RickZilla> I don't think it's in the repo...somebody may answer it, but you also might get encouraged to go to another channel
[02:34] <almoxarife> phunyguy_t430s: the channel is not owned by conical, support here is what ever runs on the base system 'ubuntu'
[02:34] <phunyguy_t430s> and from what I understand, you even get a warning with Chrome at install time about it potentially breaking your system
[02:35] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: Is there a way to add a custom icon entry in the .desktop ? I would like it to find it from the file instead of me trying to set it by the gui, I'll have hundreds of machines to reconfigure, I'd prefer copying the file
[02:35] <phunyguy_t430s> what is Conical?
[02:35] <almoxarife> phunyguy_t430s: i doubt it, install it, find out
[02:35] <phunyguy_t430s> oh you meant Canonical.
[02:35] <OerHeks> cntb is the new user added to sudoers file ?
[02:35] <RickZilla> Canonical, the company that runs ubuntu
[02:35] <phunyguy_t430s> this is the OFFICIAL Ubuntu support channel.
[02:35] <phunyguy_t430s> so I doubt it isn't supported by Canonical.
[02:35] <Rob1337> This channel is official? There's an OFFICIAL channel!?
[02:36] <Rob1337> lol
[02:36] <cntb> dunno OerHeks all default
[02:36] <Rob1337> Is there anyone here who actually works for canonical or something?
[02:36] <phunyguy_t430s> read the motd.
[02:36] <OerHeks> cntb so how did the new user install chrome? default new user cannot install it, afaik
[02:36] <cntb> simply added standard user and tried if it had the google chrome like the admin and first standard user
[02:37] <phunyguy_t430s> my guess is it doesn't add it to /etc/skel.
[02:37] <phunyguy_t430s> or whatever Ubuntu uses as a template for a new user.
[02:37] <RickZilla> I think there's a ppa with chrome somewhere
[02:37] <phunyguy_t430s> PPAs arent supported either.
[02:37] <phunyguy_t430s> afaik.
[02:37] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_t430s, I don;t see google-chrome in the repos
[02:37] <RickZilla> on here, you mean
[02:37] <cntb> nope OerHeks never said new user installed google chrome had it installed before creating user and look it up inHUD
[02:38] <phunyguy_t430s> BluesKaj, exactly my point,
[02:38] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: its avail at the web site
[02:38] <OerHeks> i wonder if you can file a bugreport on chrome...
[02:38] <BluesKaj> phunyguy_t430s, think it's optional
[02:39] <cntb> sorry repos is not the point point is old standard user sees installed prog by admin while new post install created user does not
[02:39] <phunyguy_t430s> BluesKaj, maybe that is one of those gray area items.
[02:39] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: There's a weird way to name an icon in the .desktop file, like Icon=geany, it probably will find it in .icons but then.... how should it be named?
[02:39] <BluesKaj> !google-chrome
[02:39] <phunyguy_t430s> hmmm
[02:39] <phunyguy_t430s> !chrome
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: by the Name= line
[02:39] <phunyguy_t430s> !chromium
[02:40] <BluesKaj> !info google-chrome
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: you can also specify icons absolutely
[02:40] <mazda01> my ubuntu software center isn't opening.
[02:40] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: its avail at the web site
[02:40] <phunyguy_t430s> almoxarife, what website
[02:40] <cntb> thanks for trying guys bbl
[02:40] <phunyguy_t430s> google.com?
[02:40] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: like.... path to png or something ?
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: if you run:  sudo apt-get update    are there any issues?
[02:40] <almoxarife> phunyguy_t430s: google
[02:40] <Rob1337> How long should startup disc creator take to  wipe the data off a flashdrive? It's been going for a couple minutes now...
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: yes,   /oath/to/filename.bmp   or whatever
[02:40] <phunyguy_t430s> almoxarife, thats what makes it not really supported.
[02:41] <phunyguy_t430s> Chromium is a valid option.
[02:41] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: cool cool
[02:41] <BluesKaj> almoxarife, I'm just verifying that it's not available in the repos
[02:41] <almoxarife> phunyguy_t430s: i am tired if the circle-jerk, use what ever makes you happy
[02:41] <mazda01> ActionParsnip: i am using linux mont 14 with mate if that makes a difference. i ran it from the command line and this is what it returned. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1420191/
[02:41] <phunyguy_t430s> o.O
[02:42] <BluesKaj> almoxarife, whoa , no need for that
[02:42] <phunyguy_t430s> almoxarife, you can use what you want, but some stuff isn't supported.
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: what is linux mont 14 ?
[02:42] <Rob1337> circle jerk? With vocabulary like that, almoxarife must be a redditor.
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: do you mean Mint?
[02:42] <mazda01> ActionParsnip: yes, lol
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> !mint | mazda01
[02:43] <almoxarife> Rob1337: merry-go-round?
[02:43] <mazda01> ActionParsnip: they sent me here because it
[02:43] <RickZilla> Feel free to break your install...the worst that can happen is you wipe your hard drive and start all over again. That's how you learn.
[02:43] <mazda01> ActionParsnip: it's the ubuntu software cetner
[02:43] <mazda01> ActionParsnip: center
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: I suggets you use their mint centre. We don't suppor Mint in ANY way here
[02:43] <RickZilla> Yeah, there's plenty of support for Mint on the internets...just not here
[02:44] <phunyguy_t430s> Chrome as well.
[02:44] <phunyguy_t430s> :)
[02:44] <mazda01> ActionParsnip: how can I install RC Mini Racer then? or any humble bundle indie games?
[02:44] <Rob1337> Guys, I think startup disk creator is broken. It's been erasing the data off my flash drive for several minutes now. How long should I wait before I assume that something is wrong?
[02:44] <Rob1337> This kind of stuff usually takes like 30 seconds.
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: no idea, You will need to ask in the channel for your distribution
[02:44] <almoxarife> is it possible to use a mint repo? should be, staying within the same version across the two mint-buntu
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: use unetbootin, may help
[02:45] <Anarchiste> grrrr finaly
[02:45] <phunyguy_t430s> lets give a reminder here to everyone that this is community support, AKA free support.  Nobody here is paid by Canonical.  Support for third party apps isn't required and best of luck if you ask.
[02:46] <Rob1337> What I mean is: I clicked "erase data off flashdrive" in the program, and it's been "erasing data" for quite a long time now. I think it might be broken. There's no cancel option. Can I just unplug the flash drive or kill the program?
[02:46] <phunyguy_t430s> Rob1337, I had that issue
[02:46] <phunyguy_t430s> kill the program
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: try gparted then, you can do all kinds of formatting etc there
[02:46] <almoxarife> Rob1337: thats a bug, still there i guess
[02:46] <phunyguy_t430s> usually I get a dbus timeout
[02:48] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: Downloading Unetbootin
[02:48] <Anarchiste> help help help plaese help. I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and i'm already thinking of trying to fix my win XP installation. I can't update the Nvidia driver, i can't add french and it took me for ever just to get here.
[02:49] <Anarchiste> For some details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/226986/no-language-support-new-ubuntu-12-10-install#comment280168_226986
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: if you use the DVD ISO it has a lot of languages on the disk
[02:50] <RickZilla> Is xo based on ubuntu, or is it it's own Linux distro?
[02:50] <Anarchiste> I used the DVD that my bro burned me
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: do you not get a screen like this when the CD start>
[02:51] <weirddan455> what's up
[02:51] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: Like what?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu1110installation-large_001.jpg
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: I'm not that fast ;)
[02:51] <Anarchiste> I did and i installed in english but i also want french
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> then use the blue flag in the system settings and you can add french
[02:52] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: /dev/sdb1 should be my flashdrive, right?
[02:52] <Rob1337> I just want to be sure before I hit install so I don't accidently my HDD or something
[02:53] <phunyguy_t430s> Rob1337, what is the size on it/
[02:53] <phunyguy_t430s> that is a good indicator of what volume it is
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: you can check by opening a terminal and running:  sudo fdisk -l
[02:54] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: Software database is broken  It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue first.
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: its more than likely sdb1
[02:54] <phunyguy_t430s> brb
[02:54] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: btw i did the command and yet i still get the message
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get -f install; lsb_release -a    please, use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com (or similar) to host
[02:55] <Rob1337> Yay, creating 13.04 disk
[02:56] <RickZilla> My ultimate ubuntu dream: Seeing an ubuntu-powered tablet used in schools
[02:56] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get -f install or sudo apt-get install -f ?
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: hopefully the newer kernel will not have the issue but we'll see
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: ther are the same :)
[02:57] <Rob1337> ffffuuuuuuu, this app makes my computer lag like hell
[02:57] <rcube> Hi all.  I am trying to get RDP service working on a new 12.10 desktop install.  I installed xrdp and I can connect fine but I only get my the gnome desktop but dont get the Unity interface.  Any sugestions?
[02:58] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1420203/plain/
[02:58] <amigamia> actionparsnip ther? or did you mean they?
[02:58] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: I got much more the first time
[02:59] <Rob1337> yay, time to try 13.04. brb.
[02:59] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: Nice, it works fine......!!!!! Thx!
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: yay
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: looks fine, if you run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano    does it install ok?
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: if you copy that file to /usr/sahre/applications
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: it will show in dash, you can also drag it from there to the unity panel is you like
[03:01] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: what's nano?
[03:01] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: the .desktop file ? really ?
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: its only a small app (22kb or so) its a default install CLI text editor
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: yes, just copy it in and it's ready to rock
[03:02] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: holy *........ that's a nice trick!!!!
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: if it installs without issue then your packages are square
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: lets you add ANYTHING to dash :)
[03:03] <alien2050> ActionParsnip: Thx so much dude
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> alien2050: no worries dude
[03:04] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: It seems to install fine http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1420208/
[03:05] <verysoftoiletppr> I
[03:05] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: could the language support be trying to read the installation dvd that i removed?
[03:05] <almoxarife> rcube: i dont think you will see unity via rdp, look at the docs, says something to that effect, you may need vnc
[03:05] <verysoftoiletppr> how can I install drivers for 6600GT via command line on 12.04?
[03:06] <rcube> almoxarife: tyvm, lame question.. where aer the docs you're referring ot?
[03:06] <rcube> *to
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: if you have it marked as a source then yes, if you run:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   you can comment out the top few lines which reference the CD and save the new file. Your system will now only use online sources
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> verysoftoiletppr: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[03:07] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip nvidia-current is already the newest version.
[03:07] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: Can i make it so it "ask" for the dvd when it wants it?
[03:07] <verysoftoiletppr> ActionParsnip how do I check which driver is being used?
[03:07] <almoxarife> rcube: the rdp spec via wikipedia is where i found that out, i also wanted rdp because of the ability to have sound
[03:07] <Rob1337> ActionParsnip: Wireless connection problems were present in 13.04
[03:08] <Rob1337> same as 12.10
[03:08] <rcube> almoxarife: same here, but more importantly I wanted clipboard sharing
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: dang
[03:09] <almoxarife> rcube: vnc! or ssh with X,
[03:09] <Rob1337> Quite the difficulty my problem is being eh?
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: if it is marked as a source it will definately want it and moan if the disk is not present. If it is not a source then you will use ONLY only sources
[03:09] <elena-IK> I have problems with poor sshfs performance. with rsync or scp I get around 128 kB/s, with sshfs I get between 10 and 60 kB/s. is that normal?
[03:09] <Rob1337> -_-
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: all I can suggest is post a bug or post on an existing bug. State it also affects raring
[03:10] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: well it never ever asked for the disk
[03:10] <Rob1337> I posted on askubuntu a while ago: http://askubuntu.com/questions/226862/problems-with-wireless-internet-connection-with-12-10-and-atheros-ar9287
[03:11] <Rob1337> I've been ignored :(
[03:11] <rcube> almoxarife: I've never set that up, would you be willing to help me with it?
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: by whom?
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> Rob1337: post a bug, on the bug pages
[03:12] <almoxarife> rcube: with which?
[03:13] <rcube> almoxarife: lets start with waht's X?
[03:13] <rcube> i know hwat ssh is
[03:13] <almoxarife> rcube: which is the host and the client, OS wise
[03:13] <rcube> ubuntu host, windows client
[03:15] <Anarchiste> wooo ooo i just managed to update my Nvidia driver
[03:15] <OerHeks> Rob1337, maybe this post is a solution, http://pleph.appspot.com/init/posts/view/2657865 > "sudo modprobe ath9k nohwcrypt=1"
[03:15] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: still can't get french
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: http://askubuntu.com/questions/10223/display-current-layout-language-code-country-flag-in-keyboard-indicator
[03:22] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: eeee ... so? i actualy have "no" keyboard indicator
[03:23] <Fudge> any ideas to make my netbook perform decently using quantal? revert to gnome 2?
[03:24] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: I do have a lettre from when i tried to use Empathy to get here
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> Anarchiste: you can add one
[03:26] <Zael> Fudge check the drivers
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: use LXDE, its super light
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: it'll allow your CPU to run slower so will prolong battery life a bit
[03:27] <Fudge> Zael  drivers for what?
[03:27] <Fudge> ActionParsnip  good idea mate but gnome offers the best accessibility for screen readers though
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: Gnome isn't the only available desktop ;)
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: you can run any Gnome app in LXDE
[03:28] <Fudge> true but the panels dont speak with orca, might have to jsut hack something up
[03:28] <almoxarife> Fudge: and kde too
[03:28] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: did "dconf write /org/gnome/libgnomekbd/indicator/show-flags true" and still nothing
[03:28]  * alien2050 likes fluxbox, very customizable
[03:28] <Zael> Fudge: video
[03:28] <Fudge> Zael  doubt that will help but ill look
[03:29] <Zael> Fudge: and if your video drivers are up to date, look into xfce or lxde
[03:29] <Anarchiste> ActionParsnip: not sure about part 2
[03:30] <almoxarife> Fudge: looking for something to assist the sight impared?
[03:31] <Anarchiste> exit
[03:31] <Fudge> almoxarife  yeah well I use vinux but my problem is on netbook hardware gnome3 is slow
[03:31] <thock2> does anyone know what the command to install xubuntu without all of its programs is?
[03:32] <almoxarife> Fudge: no such thing as vinux-light?
[03:32] <almoxarife> Fudge: no such thing as vinux-lite?
[03:33] <Fudge> almoxarife  nah not really we havnt got accessibility to a stage yet with xfce or lxde where we can offer that, accept for older gnome2 classic
[03:33] <Zael> thock2: all i know about is xubuntu-desktop
[03:33] <almoxarife> Fudge: nothing wrong with gnome2
[03:33] <Fudge> but on precise though
[03:35] <almoxarife> Fudge: lxde is sort of gnome2, nice desktop actually
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: well, its dead. that's quite a big thing wrong :)
[03:35] <Fudge> almoxarife  yeah but last time i tried it orca barely worked
[03:35] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: DEAD?
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: yes, gnome2 is no longer deveop[ed by the Gnome team
[03:36] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: lxde dead too?
[03:36] <Fudge> ill give lubuntu a go though on my quantal install
[03:37] <Fudge> lightdm sees the environment doesnt it?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: no, lxde is actively maintained
[03:38] <Chaos7Theory> Which channel is meant for Ubuntu discussion?
[03:38] <rcube> almoxarife: the host os is ubuntu 12.10 and the client is Windows 7
[03:39] <almoxarife> !openssh-server
[03:39] <almoxarife> !info openssh-server
[03:40] <urfriend20> hi, in mew to this i have some question can anyone help i have a PE4600 and i would like to put ubuntu on it but it only has a old cd drive. how can i put ubuntu on it. web pages says you need a dvd to install it and i can't install from jump drive.
[03:40] <rcube> Fudge: What's the dif between lubunu and ubuntu?
[03:40] <Phaba> urfriend20, you on windows atm??
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> rcube: default apps and default desktop
[03:40] <Phaba> urfriend20, you can use wubi, it installs it inside of windows
[03:40] <urfriend20> yes with new pc but not old one
[03:41] <rcube> are the specific differences listing on the ubuntu site?
[03:41] <Fudge> rcube  big differences
[03:41] <Fudge> suggest you look at the lxde website or lubuntu
[03:41] <Phaba> urfriend20, so its empty?? not sure it needs a particularly fast spin speed to install ubuntu, maybe x20 or less?
[03:41] <Fudge> lxde is targetted toward older hardware with less cpu overheads so the desktop and apps work faster
[03:41] <urfriend20> yes empty
[03:42] <almoxarife> rcube: install openssh-server on ubuntu, use 'putty' on win to access ubuntu via ssh, you should be able to run graphics apps within ubuntu via putty set to default settings
[03:42] <urfriend20> i put in new hd and more ram but it has cd drive not dvd ..
[03:42] <rcube> good grief, how many flavors of ubuntu are there?
[03:43] <Phaba> i see, you can install via usb but im not sure of the specifics
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> rcube: official ones:  ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu
[03:43] <Ben64> urfriend20: you can install from cd
[03:43] <almoxarife> rcube: quite a few
[03:43] <urfriend20> sorry im new to ubuntu..lol
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> rcube: the unofficial ones are getting ridiculous
[03:43] <Phaba> i presume it needs a 2.0 port though
[03:43] <urfriend20> ok what ver would i need to get
[03:43] <Phaba> here
[03:43] <Phaba> urfriend20, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:43] <almoxarife> Phaba: no, should not
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> Phaba: or usb 1.1 will do too
[03:43] <Chaos7Theory> Phaba: I've always wondered that, Since it's technically installing 'under' Windows, does that mean there's a reduced performance/stability because of it?
[03:43] <Ben64> why even do usb when he has a perfectly good cd drive?
[03:44] <Phaba> Chaos7Theory, not that i found, but your tied into windows still
[03:45] <Chaos7Theory> That's the preconception I had in mind when I chose to install Ubuntu under dual-boot instead of under Windows 7.
[03:45] <Phaba> Chaos7Theory, i think perhaps its under a different file system it may suffer but not noticeably , ubuntu can deal with ntfs pretty well
[03:45] <almoxarife> Ben64: that assumes a rw dvd/cd drive and like cd/dvd, not everyone has those, but most of the world does have a usb stick
[03:45] <viasolus> Hello folks, is this a good place to ask for help with a Vaio running 12.04?
[03:46] <Ben64> Chaos7Theory, Phaba: loop mounting a file inside ntfs slows it down compared to a full install
[03:46] <Chaos7Theory> Phaba: Unfortunately with 12.10, NTFS compatibility seems to be unstable since when I use it for a flash drive, it always ends up 'corrupted' somehow, so been forced to use FAT32 instead.
[03:46] <urfriend20> well this is a older server and it won't boot from usb stick hd or cd..
[03:46] <osuser> which channel is competent for os4?
[03:46] <Phaba> Ben64, yeh i thought it might a little, i never really noticed though. i have dual boot now though.
[03:47] <Ben64> Phaba: more than a little, I get probably half the write speed on NTFS as I do on ext4
[03:48] <almoxarife> urfriend20: what do you boot from?
[03:48] <viasolus> I'm looking for support after being unsuccessful on Ubuntuforums,  is this the right room to look for advice?
[03:48] <Phaba> wow, really? thats a pretty big hit, i thought ubuntu could read/write ntfs pretty well
[03:48] <Zael> viasolus: yeah
[03:48] <Ben64> viasolus: you'd have to ask a question first
[03:48] <viasolus> Great, thanks.
[03:49] <Chaos7Theory> almoxarife, urfriend20: Older BIOSes aren't compatible with booting from flash drives, though not sure how old it has to be for that to be the case.
[03:49] <almoxarife> Phaba: it can read/write ntfs, it can not fix corruption of ntfs or does it see it
[03:49] <roasted> hello!
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> Phaba: its proprietary, the ntfs access is a best effort
[03:50] <Zael> hello!
[03:50] <almoxarife> Phaba: which is why chkdsk in win becomes important with wubi installs
[03:50] <roasted> So I'm trying to set things up so I can shut down via terminal without root. I added "jason" to thegroup wheel, and this is my entry in sudoers, however, I still cannot shut down without root.... %wheelALL=(ALL)NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown   is thisincorrect?
[03:50] <Phaba> ActionParsnip, i see, so its a 50% reduction in write speed?? n
[03:51] <Ben64> Phaba: depends on the partition and the cpu
[03:51] <viasolus> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu.  Prior to installing Ubuntu I had disabled my Vaio touchpad using a windows utility. After wiping windows and fully installing 12.04 I have been unable to detect or reactivate the touchpad. A usb mouse works fine, but I would love to have it back. My forum post with attempted workarounds is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2090513
[03:51] <viasolus> Any help cool cats?
[03:52] <hyprvx> good morning/afternoon/evening
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> roasted: %wheel      ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/shutdown
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> roasted: or whatever shutdown is
[03:52] <roasted> ActionParsnip: /sbin/shutdown?
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> roasted: yes, just did a which :)
[03:53] <Phaba> viasolus, as far as im aware anything done in windows is irrelevant in ubuntu unless its been disabled at bios level if thats even possible
[03:53] <viasolus> I agree.
[03:53] <rcube> almoxarife: how would I run graphics apps via putty and ssh?  It's a console only.
[03:54] <Chaos7Theory> It's possible, I've disabled my built in wireless adapter for a while when it stopped working.
[03:54] <Chaos7Theory> At least, depending on the BIOS
[03:54] <Phaba> viasolus, perhaps theres some generic touchpad drivers you could try in ubuntu? i wouldnt know where to start though sorry, check your bios for checks sake, pretty sure it wont be there though
[03:54] <roasted> ActionParsnip: it's still saying I need root...
[03:54] <viasolus> Thanks Phaba, I'm going to check the bios just to see. Brb.
[03:55] <Macuser> Does Ubuntu come pre-installed with the Java JDK and JRE?
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> roasted: you still need to use sudo, it just won't need a password
[03:57] <almoxarife> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/running-x-window-graphical-application-over-ssh-session.html <-- rcube... there is a setting within putty that should be set to default 'X11Forwarding yes' , thats how you will run those apps
[03:57] <roasted> ActionParsnip: even when I use sudo, it asks me for the password....
[03:57] <roasted> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1420283/
[03:58] <locojay> hi i upgraded to 12.10 but i only see the background when connecting via vnc
[03:58] <Chaos7Theory> Macuser: I believe it comes with OpenJDK's jre and icedtea-web pre-installed, though I know not the JDK package by default for sure.
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> roasted: maybe it needs a reboot
[03:59] <roasted> ActionParsnip: maybe..find that hard to believe tho. I'll try it.
[04:00] <roasted> ActionParsnip: didn't work
[04:00] <locojay> anyone using vnc with success on 12.10. no issue in 12.04
[04:01] <Chaos7Theory> Even if it isn't installed by default, you could always use synpatic to install them afterward. If you need Sun's Java for whatever reason, you can use webupd8's package to automatically install and update both the jdk and jre here: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[04:02] <Chaos7Theory> Or generally described in Ubuntu's wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> roasted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1420292/
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> roasted: there's mine
[04:03] <OerHeks> doesn't openJDK come with ubuntu restricted extras ?
[04:03] <roasted> ActionParsnip: and you shut down without root?
[04:03] <roasted> ActionParsnip: via terminal that is
[04:03] <Chaos7Theory> Depends on your needs. Minecraft isn't compatible with OpenJDK 7, so you're forced to use Sun Java
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> roasted: i'll double check
[04:04] <roasted> lol
[04:05] <user> hi
[04:06] <user> hihihi
[04:06] <roasted> hi
[04:07] <rootpt> how can i disable this password http://rootpt.no-ip.org/foto.JPG
[04:07] <rootpt> i need to put that passw everytime i restart the computer :-\
[04:08] <user> i dont know man
[04:08] <rootpt> :-\
[04:08] <unityman> rootpt: yes if you don't have auto login
[04:08] <rootpt> theres no way to pass that thing ?
[04:09] <rootpt> clear that option ?
[04:09] <unityman> rootpt: for what service are you logining into?
[04:09] <rootpt> just normal desktop
[04:09] <rootpt> that happens before the login
[04:10] <unityman> rootpt: yes, but I wouldn't do it! Not a good idea to have unsecure data. Even if it is just login in for user account.
[04:10] <user> re hi
[04:10] <rootpt> unityman: how can i disable that thing ?
[04:11] <rootpt> i dont understand why that appears :-\
[04:11] <unityman> rootpt: just google it you'll find it! srry been a bit since I played with ubuntu on desktop using ubuntu on cell phone for primary reason.
[04:12] <locojay> anyone able to solve vnc problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2077657
[04:12] <binary_glitch> Is there any way to reset user privileges to there original defaults?
[04:12] <rootpt> unityman: can u tell me for what im looking ?
[04:12] <rootpt> just a tip
[04:12] <binary_glitch> google just wants to help me reset the desktop settings
[04:12] <unityman> rootpt: autologin for ubuntu
[04:12] <unityman> rootpt: give me a second I will look for link
[04:12] <rootpt> ok ok
[04:13] <rootpt> unityman: i apreciate man :-\
[04:13] <rootpt> sorry my english.
[04:13] <Jordan_U> rootpt: auto login will not help you.
[04:14] <unityman> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-kubuntu/
[04:14] <rootpt> yep, cant find nothing
[04:14] <unityman> Jordan_U: what did I miss?
[04:14] <Jordan_U> rootpt: The reason that you need to enter a password is that you have an encrypted partition.
[04:14] <rootpt> :-\
[04:14] <rootpt> i see Jordan_U
[04:15] <Jordan_U> rootpt: Do you know why you have an encrypted partition? Did you want that?
[04:15] <rootpt> theres a way to disable that?
[04:15] <rootpt> no
[04:15] <rootpt> i dont want that
[04:15] <rootpt> and i didnt know how i do that :X
[04:15] <rootpt> just a mistake
[04:15] <roasted> Question - this is my sudoers file. Jason is a member of wheel, yet Jason cannot shut down the system without needing a password (whether or not I run with sudo). The command is sudo /sbin/shutdown -h now. The sudoers file is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1420292/   What am I doing wrong?
[04:15] <Jordan_U> rootpt: It's not the default configuration, so I'm not sure how you ended up with it. Did you install Ubuntu or someone else?
[04:16] <rootpt> a friend of mine
[04:16] <rootpt> but its my machine
[04:16] <rootpt> its here, next to me
[04:16] <rootpt> and i just want to disable that passw
[04:17] <unityman> rootpt: backup data and reinstall ubuntu from livecd or liveusb
[04:18] <rootpt> unityman: i think that, just answer here, maybe a another way to do that
[04:18] <rootpt> but if not,i will need to reinstall :-\
[04:18] <unityman> Jordan_U: srry if I stepped on you helping rootpt . :)
[04:19] <Jordan_U> unityman: Not at all, I'm in and out anyway so it's good that you picked it up :)
[04:19] <rootpt> thank u guys..
[04:20] <rootpt> i think i will format and reinstall afterall
[04:20] <unityman> rootpt: reinstalling ubuntu is 20 mins out of your time. Not a lot but updating the system may take more time.
[04:21] <binary_glitch> Is there any way to reset user privileges to there original defaults? Google just wants to help me reset the desktop settings to there original defaults but not user privileges...
[04:21] <rootpt> unityman: yep =) thanks man, really appreciate
[04:22] <unityman> rootpt: No problem. Got run.
[04:23] <rootpt> cheers
[04:24] <unityman> Have a good night all! Going to study up on Android and sdk have fun :). I think I might try develop an app for android. How to root your phone basics like a game. Similar to the cheevos for firefox. Get stars for rooting and understanding your phone.
[04:28] <binary_glitch> anyone?
[04:29] <heoyea> make a new user
[04:29] <heoyea> then is default
[04:30] <TimAnderson> UBUNTU SUCKS MY DICK!
[04:30] <binary_glitch> will that make the default "custom" user privileges that come with the only account on a new install?
[04:30] <heoyea> yea
[04:32] <Googol30> Are file permissions specific to the ext family of Linux compatible filesystems?
[04:33] <Googol30> Can you use FAT with permissions?
[04:34] <binary_glitch> thank you. ./quite
[04:34] <binary_glitch> ./quit
[04:35] <binary_glitch> shiza how do I exit irc again?
[04:35] <Googol30> No period prefixing /quit
[04:35] <IdleOne> /quit
[04:35] <binary_glitch> oops not running an app lol.
[04:37] <Googol30> Can anyone explain filesystem permissions to me?  Or at least tell me if FAT uses them?
[04:40] <heoyea> everything has permission rules
[04:40] <justin_> anyone want to get it on?
[04:41] <justin_> kiyoura, let's get it on.
[04:46] <Luis_> Hello
[04:47] <heoyea> *
[04:47] <d3wy> Howdy all, anyone free to give a quick hand with samba (Ubuntu) host with OSX client?
[04:49] <heoyea> nope
[04:51] <Googol30> Just an observation: you can tell where most active people live, generically of course, by when they are on and how much activity is in the channel.
[04:52] <Googol30> As of now... this channel is dead.
[04:52] <d3wy> =P
[04:52] <d3wy> Obviously no Aussies in here ha.
[04:52] <heoyea> US
[04:56] <Googol30> If anyone knows enough networking... can anyone tell me if there is a limit to the number of network switches that you can have in a single network?  Is that limited only by the overall latency?
[04:57] <Googol30> Network switches don't have their own IP addresses, right?
[05:02] <Googol30> I'm not getting anywhere on this channel at this time... I'll probably be back in ~10 hours.
[05:03] <ejo> probably oughta ask ##unix rather
[05:03] <ejo> or so
[05:05] <onborad> Dear all, I update Xorg and require packages ,when upstart system show blackscreen . switch VT check Xorg.log have not error report .any ideas?
[05:06] <brady2600> does anyone know of any torrent applications, that have it as a feature to enable downloads when the computer is inactive?
[05:07] <brady2600> i like downloading torrents, but not typically when im actually using my computer.  Ive had torrent clients before that could work based on a scheadual, but you had to know when and when not you would be using your computer, it would be much perferable to simply have an application that enables / disables your downloads based on when your using your computer
[05:10] <chocolateshirt> #irc.rizon.net
[05:11] <d3wy> brady2600: I'm not sure but I have a feeling you could set up some automated script that would throttle the torrent application. Not sure how you would trigger it with activity tho
[05:11] <brady2600> im just surprised that there isn't already a client that does this.
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> d3wy: throttle as in restrict speed?
[05:11] <d3wy> yes
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> d3wy: transmission has that in its options....
[05:12] <nongoogle> how do i not fail to make a script executable, it keeps not sticking to executable from the right click menu
[05:12] <d3wy> Yeah, I am aware it can do it.
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> d3wy: you can set max up and down speed
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> d3wy: is that not the issue?
[05:12] <d3wy> I'm not sure how you would make it respond to system activity tho
[05:12] <Zael> nongoogle: chmod +x
[05:12] <d3wy> I'm thinking for brady2600 's issue
[05:12] <mehwork> how can i make it so unity search windows don't show up when i hit the <Super> key? i want to map something else to super
[05:13] <nongoogle> i have the script on a bootstick, it keeps not sticking to executable format
[05:14] <Zael> nongoogle: was it from an image?
[05:14] <nongoogle> yes
[05:14] <Zael> nongoogle: may be something funky cause of that
[05:15] <Zael> the file system might not support the executable flag for instance
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> nongoogle: is the USB stick NTFS by any chance?
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> Zael: ;)
[05:15] <kapz> hi! any steam beta testyers here? I have few questions.
[05:16] <kapz> *testers
[05:16] <Zael> kapz: #ubuntu-steam
[05:16] <kapz> thanks Zael
[05:16] <nongoogle> it doesnt say ntfs it says msdos
[05:16] <Zael> fat
[05:16] <irishmac1022> how do i liveboot ubuntu from a flash drive?
[05:17] <brady2600> yeah.. im looking though transmission and not finding what i was talking about
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> nongoogle: if the file system doesn't support good linux stuff then you will need to mount the whole filesystem as executable and it will work
[05:17] <brady2600> im looking for something that only downloads when the computer is inactive
[05:17] <Zael> irishmac1022: try unetbootin
[05:18] <Zael> brady2600: you might use a torrent client that supports the command line
[05:18] <irishmac1022> Zael: thank you!
[05:18] <jv432> hello i was able to boot on ubuntu now using usb
[05:18] <Zael> then you can script something and put it in your launcher or on your desktop or something
[05:19] <brady2600> im not really looking to built it myself.. im looking for a client with that already as a feature.
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> brady2600: you could have a cron'd job which tests the net use then uses transmission-cli to set the bandwidth higher / uses the alternate speed etc
[05:19] <jv432> but i had a problem
[05:19] <nongoogle> ActionParsnip i remember trying that yet i dont have any success running the script
[05:19] <jv432> 3 options were given to me
[05:19] <jv432> i pick install on windows 7,it was succesful i was able to use ubuntu
[05:19] <almoxarife> brady2600: who decides what and when 'activity' is where you want it? time of day? load?
[05:19] <brady2600> not time of day
[05:20] <jv432> but when i restart and remove the usb its not on the os selection
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> brady2600: http://superuser.com/questions/367209/a-torrent-client-which-automatically-detects-http-and-related-activity-from-the   another way you can do it
[05:20] <brady2600> not a schedule , simply when the computer is not in use
[05:20] <jv432> the supposed install ubuntu on windows 7 is like = boot ubuntu on usb only
[05:20] <brady2600> you fall asleep, the computer goes to sleep, and into download mode
[05:20] <sargennto> Hello All. When trying to play games via Steam It tells me I need to update my video drivers. When I tried to install the fglrx drivers I get an error telling me to check var/log/jockey.log .. output is >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1420360/
[05:20] <Zael> brady2600: you can ask over in the #transmission channel, but i think it supports command line
[05:21] <brady2600> as i had said, i have no desire to build it myself.
[05:22] <jv324> hello any help on my problem
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: what is the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga; lsb_release -sc
[05:23] <mohajuice> hi dr_willis
[05:23] <irishmac1022> Zael: does the flash drive have to be clear for it to work?
[05:23] <mohajuice> will u help me installing usb modem on ubuntu 12.04
[05:23] <almoxarife> jv324: without the usb attached you dont have ubuntu?
[05:24] <Zael> irishmac1022: i believe so
[05:24] <jv324> yeah
[05:24] <jv324> it doesnt stay
[05:24] <jv324> it supposed to install insde windows 7
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> mohajuice: run:   lsusb  one line will idenify the modem, use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[05:24] <jv324> but when i shutdown ubuntu it also disappears
[05:24] <almoxarife> jv324: you ran ubuntu live session or did you install?
[05:24] <sargennto> ActionParsnip: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450] | precise
[05:24] <kapz> okay guys #ubuntu-steam appears to be dead. Anyway Steam asks me to update the driver to nvidia experimental but I use bumblebee, so how do I go about updating driver?
[05:25] <irishmac1022> Zael: will i have to install it directly onto computer after installing onto flash drive or is it completely portable?
[05:25] <Zael> irishmac1022: it should be portable in live mode
[05:26] <irishmac1022> ok thanks
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> sargennto: then run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle
[05:26] <Zael> ActionParsnip: he's using nvidia i think
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> Zael: ATI RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450]  ....
[05:27] <Zael> ah
[05:27] <mohajuice> yes i already did with lsusb here is the result 1dbc:0669
[05:27] <sargennto> Zael: i need fglrx
[05:27] <almoxarife> !fglrx
[05:28] <irishmac1022> Zael: how will it work with Wireless network drivers on a netbook?
[05:29] <Zael> irishmac1022: should work ok
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> mohajuice: is it a 3g thing?
[05:29] <Zael> sargennto: i had to upgrade my ati drivers as well to get tf2 to launch in steam linux... i used these: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages
[05:29] <irishmac1022> Zael: on a Samsung NC130?
[05:29] <mohajuice> ActionParsnip i can send u the driver files that r inbuilt into flash storage of usb modem
[05:29] <sargennto> ActionParsnip: that was successful. let me reboot and see if it works now :)
[05:30] <sargennto> Zael: awesome ill book mark incase this dont work after reboot
[05:30] <Zael> sargennto: if you have 12.04 though the fglrx will probably work
[05:30] <mohajuice> yes its 3g HSPA modem
[05:30] <Zael> sargennto: but if it's 12.10.. you'll probably need those
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> mohajuice: those will be for windows
[05:30] <sargennto> 12.04, brb let ya know
[05:30] <jv324> sorry i was caught up chatting on other room
[05:30] <jv324> i install it
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> mohajuice: do you have usb-modeswitch installed?
[05:30] <jv324> like i said i did that unetbootin stuff yous aid
[05:30] <Zael> irishmac1022: i'd be suprised if it doesn't
[05:31] <mohajuice> yes i have
[05:31] <jv324> and boot using usb,it gave 3 options
[05:31] <jv324> 1 - Install ubuntu inside windows 7
[05:31] <jv324> 2- install ubuntu over windows 7
[05:31] <jv324> 3 install ubuntu on partition
[05:31] <Zael> yeah
[05:31] <mohajuice> ther r separate files for windows, mac and ubuntu
[05:31] <jv324> i pick the no 1
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> mohajuice: are there any bugs reported for it?
[05:31] <jv324> and it run ubuntu but disappears when i shut down
[05:33] <mohajuice> i m on windows right now as i don't have any means to go online with ubuntu
[05:33] <numsix> Hey!
[05:34] <numsix> I'm having a ubuntu problem, anyone care to take a stab at it :)
[05:35] <sargennto> ActionParsnip:  Zael : Unfortunately steam still gives me this error: Required OpenGL extension "GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode" is not supported. Please update your openGL driver
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> numsix: ask away
[05:36] <Zael> sargennto: if you have a 3k card, ati dropped support for them on linux
[05:36] <jv324> What should i do please help
[05:36] <Zael> you have to use legacy drivers, from my understanding
[05:36] <sargennto> Zael: yup.. radeon hd 3450 ... nice...
[05:36] <Zael> they dropped support for 2k, 3k, and 4k
[05:36] <numsix> OK so here's my problem. I have a file server i run ubuntu on, been going for years. was working great.
[05:37] <sargennto> Zael: sigh... stupid ati
[05:37] <jv324> i wish someone would help a newbie like me and not only people who knows ubuntu already
[05:37] <numsix> I had Ubuntu 11.04 running because i hate unity. About a month ago started running out of space constantly. would free up stuff, run out in a week. It was a wubi install so i was like whatever, dumped it and did a fresh 11.04 install no wubi/windows
[05:37] <mohajuice> i try again installing those drivers n will show u the results
[05:37] <Zael> yeah, i'm considering going back to nvidia on my next build
[05:37] <Zael> i have a 5670
[05:38] <numsix> Fresh 11.04 same thing, hard drive fills up.. reboot, space is magically back. 80gb partition with virtually no user files so whats going on
[05:38] <almoxarife> sargennto: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/846938351012409765/ <-- you want to look at that
[05:38] <numsix> I upgrade to 12.10 because i hear gnome classic works better now (which it does) but problem persists!
[05:38] <Zael> nice, a workaround
[05:39] <numsix> FInally start  combing through, find its .cache/gdm/session.logs thats doing it. grows to fill up hard drive.. 70+gb which brings down everything as it crashes VNC and i only access this via VNC
[05:39] <numsix> so any ideas? its gotta be a bug or something
[05:39] <jv324> hello are you gonna help or not
[05:39] <numsix> i got nada installed right now.. 12.10 x-chat, gnome.. thats it
[05:39] <sargennto> almoxarife: okay I will give it a read right now
[05:39] <jv324> i dont like wasting time
[05:39] <jv324> i followed what you suggest and you just left me hanging when it give another error
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> numsix: have you read the logs?
[05:40] <irishmac1022> Zael: how much room do you think that Ubuntu will need for this liveboot?
[05:40] <numsix> the logs aren't readible when it balloons up its just corrupt
[05:40] <Zael> jv324: i don't know much about that installing ubuntu into windows stuff; i recommend giving ubuntu it's own partitions
[05:40] <jv324> how can i give that
[05:40] <jv324> i dont even know
[05:40] <vicsar> .
[05:41] <numsix> its also not an incremintal thing.. so not like a problem with a program going bad over time.. its like a switch. one minute 74gb free.. within 5 minutes 0
[05:41] <Zael> irishmac1022: the image i believe is about 800 mb
[05:41] <jv324> when i pick install on partition it read the whole disk
[05:41] <jv324> and chop it to parts
[05:41] <irishmac1022> Zael: so 8 gb will do?
[05:41] <jv324> its not clear if itll be a clean install and will erase my current partition
[05:41] <Zael> irishmac1022: should be plenty
[05:41] <irishmac1022> Zael: thanks
[05:42] <Zael> jv324: if you pick the windows partition, it will erase it.. yes
[05:42] <mohajuice> dkms_2.0.21.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb
[05:42] <mohajuice> hspa-modem-dkms_1.02.28_all.deb
[05:42] <mohajuice> dkms_2.1.0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[05:42] <mohajuice> hspa-modem-dkms_1.02.31_all.deb
[05:42] <mohajuice> dkms_2.1.1.2-2fakesync1_all.deb
[05:42] <mohajuice> hspa-modem-dkms_1.02.32_all.deb
[05:42] <FloodBot1> mohajuice: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:42] <numsix> is there anyway to disable the creation of the session.log files? or hell, even move them to another drive. i'll make a partition and it can fill it up for all i care just not the file system
[05:42] <almoxarife> jv324: is there a dir/folder in the root of your win machine called 'ubuntu'?
[05:42] <Zael> jv324: you can resize that partition with something like gparted though to allow space for a dual boot with their own partitions
[05:44] <Zael> jv324: almoxarife probably knows about your current install
[05:44] <almoxarife> probably :)
[05:44] <Zael> i always felt that wubi stuff was a bad idea
[05:45] <jv324> i dony know almoxarife
[05:45] <almoxarife> Zael: probably because you never installed it
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> numsix: i'd boot to liveCD, delete the file, then log back in and read the new, smaller, file
[05:45] <jv324> i have two partition
[05:45] <Zael> almoxarife: true
[05:45] <jv324> let me check
[05:45] <numsix> Hold on, lemme see if the file is readable now. I can always delete the file and everything is cool
[05:45] <almoxarife> jv324: the partion would be 'boot' c: one
[05:45] <numsix> It's just it usually happens when i'm at work which blows my VNC and i can't fix it until i get home which bites
[05:46] <jv324> almoxarife yea in c
[05:46] <jv324> weird though it should be in e: cause theres where windows 7 is installed
[05:46] <almoxarife> jv324: what are the files in that dir?
[05:47] <jv324> disks and isntall dir
[05:47] <jv324> and uninstall-wubi.exe
[05:47] <almoxarife> jv324: specifically, what files exist in dir c:/ubuntu
[05:48] <jv324> i already said
[05:48] <jv324> thats the only 3 in c:/ubuntu
[05:48] <numsix> ko, nothing insane but lots of these: (gnome-settings-daemon:7925): libappindicator-CRITICAL **: app_indicator_set_lab
[05:48] <numsix> el: assertion `IS_APP_INDICATOR (self)' failed
[05:49] <numsix> but right now file is small and normal
[05:49] <jv324> inside the sub dir disks theres another sub directory boot and a file ubuntu-12.04.1-wubi-amd64.tar.xz
[05:49] <almoxarife> jv324: those are not file names, you have a nice day
[05:49] <jv324> what
[05:49] <Zael> o.O
[05:50] <jv324> i said theres 2 dir named disks and install and 1 file called  uninstall-wubi.exe
[05:50] <jv324> your sayign im a liar
[05:50] <jv324> i can even send you a fraps of it on 720p if you dont believe
[05:50] <numsix> He'll need at least 1080p to verify that
[05:51] <almoxarife> fraps? what did i miss?
[05:51] <Zael> he's gonna fraps you his directory tree
[05:51] <almoxarife> frapping something new? can i install 'frap' on kde?
[05:52] <Zael> i think it requires lasers
[05:52] <numsix> He's going to play Quake 3 at you to prove his wubi sucks
[05:53] <jv324> cause you said have a ncie day
[05:53] <jv324> you think im joking,im already frustrated at this
[05:53] <causative> I would like to search for the presence or absence of a certain image on the screen (i.e. test automation)
[05:53] <causative> what should I use for this?
[05:53] <Zael> jv324: why are you interested in linux
[05:53] <jv324> and here i thought ubuntu is the best linux distro
[05:54] <jv324> cause i need it to fix my smartphone
[05:54] <numsix> Ubuntu was the best until unity, lol
[05:54] <Zael> can't you just take it to your provider and let them hook it up
[05:55] <jv324> what?
[05:55] <almoxarife> jv324: #android-root , thats the place for 'i need linux to fix(root) my phone
[05:55] <jamamp> numsix, then remove unity? there's alternatives
[05:55] <jv324> what you mean take it to provider
[05:55] <Zael> jv324: another question.. why don't you just use a live cd
[05:55] <numsix> Yeah well that's why i'm here.. my gnome is blowing up
[05:55] <Jonathan_R> i just finished instaling ubuntu 12.10 and dont know what the rot pasword is
[05:55] <jv324> first of all i dont use android tahts nto even mroe linux than my os
[05:55] <jamamp> numsix, i heard KDE/Xubuntu/Kubuntu ones look okay
[05:56] <jv324> second take it to my provider?my smartphones has software problem not hardware
[05:56] <Zael> i love Xubuntu
[05:56] <numsix> i may have to look into alternatives if i can't figure out this session.log bug
[05:56] <jv324> why would i take it to my provider,and you know not all around the world providers sell smartphone
[05:56] <numsix> it's GOTTA be a bug. i mean, i've formatted the drive and done a fresh install for god's sake.
[05:56] <almoxarife> Jonathan_R: there is not one, your user pass with 'sudo/gksu' is how you get at root
[05:56] <krunal> any idea why i can't access windows share from my ubuntu machine? i'm running 12.10
[05:56] <jv324> in my country they only service us for waht we need not like your providers in USA that sucks money out of you
[05:56] <Zael> jv324: why not just use a live cd?
[05:57] <numsix> that would be too easy
[05:57] <jv324> nvm im already pissed 1 or 2 of you obviously isnt even taht smart
[05:57] <Jonathan_R> almoxarife: when instaling software its asking for authentication
[05:57] <almoxarife> jv324: Zael..., take it elsewhere, this is not a chat channel
[05:57] <Zael> lol
[05:57] <almoxarife> Jonathan_R: your user password
[05:57] <jv324> its no brainer that not every provider int he world are the same
[05:57] <Jonathan_R> tried
[05:57] <Jonathan_R> doesnt work
[05:57] <krunal> how about some help
[05:57] <krunal> any idea why i can't access windows share from my ubuntu machine? i'm running 12.10
[05:57] <jv324> thanks for those who help me though
[05:57] <Zael> i'm just trying to help him
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> Jonathan_R: then you aren't typing it right. Check your capslock etc
[05:58] <Jonathan_R> checked
[05:58] <jv324> th eonyl eprson who help me is  ActionParsnip
[05:58] <jv324> *only
[05:58] <numsix> krunal try pointing to the ip of the windows machine from your ubuntu box
[05:59] <krunal> how do i do that on gui.. without using terminal
[05:59] <almoxarife> krunal: also, did you firewall the win machine?
[05:59] <krunal> yeah
[05:59] <Jonathan_R> got it ActionParsnip
[05:59] <numsix> yeah check firewal
[05:59] <numsix> places -> connect to server
[05:59] <krunal> almoxarife, yeah
[05:59] <Jonathan_R> its a keyboard isue or something
[05:59] <almoxarife> krunal: cant get access if you are firewalled
[05:59] <Jonathan_R> i noticed in another place
[06:00] <krunal> what changes do i need to make on windows firewall
[06:00] <Jonathan_R> when typing it in, it mised the last character
[06:00] <almoxarife> krunal: win changes
[06:00] <Jonathan_R> had to wait a second and type in the last character again
[06:01] <numsix> for whatever reason i can never get into my windows machine by it's UNC buy the ip works
[06:01] <numsix> from ubuntu
[06:01] <almoxarife> krunal: before you do that, can you ping the win machine from buntu?
[06:01] <krunal> yes i can ping
[06:01] <numsix> but you gotta make sure its open first and nothing is blocking it. windows firewall, some anti-virus has another firewall, etc
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> jonathaN: all ok now?
[06:01] <almoxarife> krunal: assume the firewall is not the issue then
[06:02] <numsix> well ive got nothing on this log problem
[06:02] <krunal> almoxarife, when i go to 'connect to server' - it has some crediential issue
[06:02] <numsix> is there no way to disable o rmove the log?
[06:02] <almoxarife> krunal: you are back to a win issue then
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> numsix: you could mark the file as read only, it may just make another file though. Worth a try
[06:02] <numsix> check your permissions or put in your windows username/password
[06:02] <numsix> yeah it does session.old
[06:02] <numsix> so that doesn't work
[06:02] <numsix> what blows my mind is the fact that it's done it on 2 different installs
[06:03] <krunal> almoxarife, just got it to work...thanks
[06:03] <numsix> maybe it hates this cheap AMD
[06:03] <almoxarife> krunal: i dont use win, so i dont know where the fix would be
[06:03] <almoxarife> krunal: cool
[06:03] <krunal> almoxarife, was missing the domain...workgroup
[06:03] <almoxarife> krunal: that helps
[06:03] <krunal> now we all know :)
[06:03] <numsix> stupid workgroups
[06:04] <almoxarife> krunal: now you are the resident win samba guru
[06:04] <krunal> haha sure
[06:04] <numsix> where are the settings for the logs kept anyone know? maybe i can move it to a different drive
[06:04] <almoxarife> numsix: trying to read a log?
[06:04] <krunal> so why'd ubuntu decide to change the layout? i really enjoyed version 10.xx
[06:05] <numsix> they wanted to piss everyone off. UNity is terrible
[06:05] <krunal> yeah i dont like unity
[06:05] <numsix> almox the logs don't look crazy, you can't read it when it blows up
[06:05] <almoxarife> blows up?
[06:05] <numsix> here's one repeating error: ` (gnome-settings-daemon:7925): libappindicator-CRITICAL **: app_indicator_set_lab
[06:05] <numsix> el: assertion `IS_APP_INDICATOR (self)' failed
[06:06] <numsix> Yeah once every 24-48 hours the session.log fills up the hard drive
[06:06] <numsix> goes like 74gb in size
[06:06] <numsix> it does this almost instantly
[06:06] <numsix> if you delete it, you are fine
[06:06] <krunal> anyone use kubuntu yet?
[06:06] <numsix> until it happens again
[06:06] <almoxarife> krunal: i use kde
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> krunal: I have in the past
[06:06] <jamamp> O
[06:06] <Zael> i use xfce
[06:06] <krunal> which is the best
[06:06] <almoxarife> :)
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> krunal: there is no single best
[06:07] <almoxarife> KDE
[06:07] <Zael> pick for yourself
[06:07] <krunal> i'll try a few
[06:07] <numsix> I love Gnome 3. Not the new gnome..the remix one.. and not unity. I hate apple, i hate os x. I don't want anything that looks or feels like os x. i want a simple clean desktop. gnome 3 is amazingly awesome what's wrong with it?
[06:07] <krunal> see what i like
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> krunal: if there was, the others would cease to be as nobody would use them
[06:07] <krunal> ActionParsnip, true
[06:07] <krunal> good to know
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> krunal: you can even just use a WM like fluxbox and not use a desktop at all :)
[06:08] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: that would not be the best :)
[06:08] <numsix> are there any other major distros that use gnome? if i can't figure this out soon i may drop ubuntu for the time being
[06:08] <numsix> as if i wanted to deal with headaches and annoyances i'd install windows back on this thing
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: its great if you want a lightning fast system using fewer resources
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> numsix: Fedora uses Gnome by default
[06:09] <numsix> i may have to give that a go
[06:09] <Zael> numsix: just customize the way you want it
[06:09] <krunal> we're starting to sell systems with windows 8 at work... not going so well
[06:09] <numsix> zael read my problems above
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> numsix: have a look at some videos on youtube, see what you reckon
[06:09] <Zael> numsix: maybe there's a ppa for that
[06:09] <krunal> thanks fellas....have a good night
[06:09] <numsix> if not for this problem i'd be happy with ubuntu. 12.10 isn't so bad as the gnome classic is close to what i had before.. although evolution doesn't seem to work well
[06:10] <numsix> the gnome work around in 11.10 was miserable so i stuck with 11.04
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> numsix: tried xfce, its very close to the Gnome2 smell
[06:10] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: i am like a dog, i found my favorite kibble, true, kde is considered less than lite but i cant live without it, everything else seems less than perfect :)
[06:11] <numsix> when i first gave ubuntu a try 3 or 4 years ago i was blown away by how great gnome was.. i just hate to see them monkey with it and trying to move it into something thats just terrible with unity
[06:11] <numsix> i'm looking into fedora now
[06:11] <numsix> i dont keep anything on this computer other than email and my media files so swapping os's isnt a big deal
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: it can be light, there is a new thing based on Qt which is light
[06:11] <almoxarife> numsix: good for you, just say its 'ubuntu' when you need help here, cause they dont offer help\
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/lightweight-qt-desktop-environment.html
[06:12] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: i use it, qtrazor, when on batt for along time without need for pim
[06:12] <numsix> i'd be much happier if i could just have ubuntu back though dammit.
[06:12] <numsix> there's gotta be a way to fix this
[06:13] <almoxarife> numsix: what is the issue?
[06:13] <onborad> http://pastebin.com/FH4kiMrs
[06:13] <onborad> (WW) intel(0): No outputs definitely connected, trying again...
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: totally
[06:14] <onborad> why report Not outputs definitely connected . my system boot ,display blackscreen .
[06:14] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: someone just figured out about qtrazor at web8 :) , damm lite
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: its pretty sweet
[06:15] <numsix> almoxarife: long story short, there's some bug that's been causing the session.logs to randomly balloon up causing a crash when there's no space left on the file system. A complete re-install has not resolved it.
[06:15] <almoxarife> numsix: do you know which bug?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: I still prefer openbox + xcompmgr + docky :)
[06:16] <numsix> seems similar to this: http://markmail.org/message/4jqmo4kdhzewqrv2
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> numsix: if you use a different session (like xfce) is it ok?
[06:16] <numsix> and thats about when the problem started
[06:16] <numsix> september / october
[06:17] <numsix> hold on just found that link, looking into it being tied to vino
[06:17] <almoxarife> numsix: un-install vino or stop the service to begin with
[06:17] <numsix> it makes sense because i normally exclusively use VNC to connect to this
[06:18] <almoxarife> numsix: then look for a replacement for 'vino' for the mean time
[06:18] <numsix> Yeah i have installed x11
[06:18] <almoxarife> numsix: see, no need for fedora
[06:18] <numsix> lets hope
[06:18] <numsix> can't believe they haven't fixed this
[06:18] <numsix> if its been a problem for 2 months
[06:18] <Ycarene> So, the ubuntu update servers are down I take it.
[06:18] <numsix> its a pretty nasty bug
[06:19] <almoxarife> numsix: problem fixed for now
[06:19] <numsix> well problem worked around for now
[06:19] <numsix> .. maybe .. if thats it
[06:19] <numsix> i'm going to stop vino and see what happens
[06:19] <onyon_00> selamat siang semua
[06:20] <numsix> does evolution not work properly under 12.10?
[06:20] <numsix> thats the one thing i noticed when i upgraded.. evolution just bombs out
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> Ycarene: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1420427/   not at all
[06:20] <Ycarene> I'm getting the error described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146799/unable-to-connect-to-getdeb-net-how-do-i-fix-it and it says to "be patient", however, it's been days, is it gone for good or what?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> numsix: try running it from a terminal, may give clues
[06:21] <numsix> yeah
[06:21] <numsix> it loads up but then it just tries to refresh the main folder and never gets anywhere
[06:21] <numsix> thunderbird works but once again i found evolution to be better. seems like everything about 11.10+ is a step back for me
[06:21] <Ycarene> Or has precise fallen off of the supported list?
[06:22] <numsix> maybe i'll dump this and go back to 11.04
[06:22] <almoxarife> Ycarene: your issue cant be solved here
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Ycarene: Precise is supported til April 2017...
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Ycarene: did you try switching update server?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> numsix: 11.04 is EOL
[06:22] <almoxarife> numsix: at least 12.04 , its lts
[06:23] <Ycarene> ActionParsnip - How do I do that?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Ycarene: ok, how have you been trying to troubleshooot this?
[06:23] <cheesecakes> i wanted to install grub2 to a sepreate partion i.e move /boot
[06:23] <cheesecakes> is this possible without reinstallation
[06:24] <Ycarene> ActionParsnip - Well, my current troubleshooting has been to just wait for the server to come back up.
[06:24] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: there is no fixing his issue, the server is down
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> Ycarene: you can switch update server using software centre, or you can manually tweak /etc/apt/sources.list   (if you are using server)
[06:24] <numsix> i don't really care about support. as long as x-chat works, transmission works and it can serve files.. thats all i use this for
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: but user can still take steps to switch source
[06:24] <numsix> funny one of the last updated introduced this vino/log bug
[06:25] <numsix> thanks for nothing :P
[06:25] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: true
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> numsix: what do you use vino for?
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> numsix: when you connect to the remote system, what activitis do you do?
[06:25] <Ycarene> I don't like making the changes manually, last time I did that, I did an update and it made my system unbootable.
[06:25] <almoxarife> !x11-vnc
[06:25] <numsix> this computer isn't hooked up to a monitor/keyboard normally
[06:26] <numsix> usually i just interface via VNC with it only
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> numsix: yes but what do you do on the desktop?
[06:26] <numsix> email, irc
[06:26] <numsix> thats about it
[06:26] <numsix> managing the file server which is its primary function
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> numsix: you can irc via SSH (like I am now)
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> numsix:  you can run X apps via SSH using X forwarding,  you don't need full desktop access
[06:27] <numsix> yeah but i like x-chat :)
[06:27] <almoxarife> !x11vnc
[06:27] <cheesecakes> i just want to know whther possible or not without re-installing ubuntu
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> numsix: you can access the files via SSHFS which you will get if you install openssh-server, the files can be managed using the nautilus on the client system
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> numsix: you can run xchat via X forwarding
[06:27] <numsix> i like having the GUI. I lived on shells in the 90s but i'm happy to have a bit more flexibility
[06:28] <numsix> worked fine for years
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> numsix: note the word 'nautilus', that's not a shell
[06:28] <numsix> Yeah i would still like to have the full desktop if possible
[06:29] <almoxarife> numsix: replace vino with 'x11vnc'
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> numsix: you can even make bash scripts to connect to the server and run the app. The integration will be 100% seamless
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> numsix: why though, you don't need it
[06:29] <numsix> I'm sure it could be done no doubt just don't feel like spending the effort
[06:29] <numsix> Yeah vino is uninstalled
[06:30] <numsix> i'll give it a day or so and see if it blows up again
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> numsix: your call but what you are doing can be done so much more gracefully
[06:30] <numsix> no doubt
[06:30] <almoxarife> all that because of x-chat?
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> numsix: and its why I always ask when people think they need vnc
[06:30] <numsix> it may not be that i need it more so that i just like it
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> numsix: there was a guy in here a while back who was VNCing to the system then opening a terminal
[06:31] <numsix> or dont feel like messing with setting up an alternative
[06:31] <numsix> he needed that box around the terminal.. made him feel good
[06:31] <numsix> :)
[06:31] <Tit_rene> hi, i did this command line:            sudo -s        startx -- :1 for use graphiq mod, and now i can't log with my user/pass, when i put my pass a black page come 1sec and i return back to reput my pass. some one can help me ?
[06:32] <almoxarife> i tried vnc'ing into the toaster, it would not respond, can someone help me?
[06:32] <numsix> i'll look into setting up ssh and forwarding instead but for right now i'm just hoping this problem is resolved
[06:32] <numsix> is it a microsoft toaster? try rdp
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> numsix: if you setup ssh keys you can have a .desktop file on your desktop to run:   ssh -X username@server xchat      and it will appear on your system, but be executing on the remote system (like a Citrix app)
[06:32] <almoxarife> numsix: thats nice, hope is good
[06:33] <numsix> we'll see :)
[06:33] <numsix> Yeah i'm sure i could set everything up via ssh, thats not a problem.. id just have to actualyl sit down and set it all up and right now ahh.. well lets get the thing to stop crashing every 3 days first
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> numsix: it'll allow you to not run vino too :)
[06:35] <numsix> well vino is out the window so we'll see how it goes :)
[06:35] <numsix> it's been drunk and the bottle has been discarded
[06:35] <Gangadhar> Hi
[06:36] <Gangadhar> i've trouble in logging in to my system
[06:36] <Gangadhar> can some one help me on tis
[06:36] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: you need to be much more specific
[06:37] <numsix> Your password is Pencil
[06:37] <bhavesh> Gangadhar: Elaborate your problem
[06:37] <numsix> Matthew Broderick hacked your PC while trying to start a war with russia
[06:37] <numsix> it happens
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Gangadhar: www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[06:38] <Gangadhar> am not able to get my login window.. i've ubuntu studio latest installed on my laptop
[06:39] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: never could or just now cant?
[06:39] <Gangadhar> just now..
[06:39] <Gangadhar> after installing grub lite theme
[06:39] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: ohhhhhhhhhhh
[06:40] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: yea, tossed grub maybe?
[06:41] <Gangadhar> plymouth mount failed is the error
[06:41] <Gangadhar> and am strucked in that
[06:41] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: can you at least get to a terminal?
[06:41] <Gangadhar> yeah.. an able to get the terminal
[06:41] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: and do you know what you installed and via how?
[06:42] <Gangadhar> installed via ubuntu software center
[06:42] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: and do you know what you installed and via how? what specifically?
[06:42] <KI4RO> .
[06:43] <Gangadhar> hmm.. grub lite theme.. am not sure which is it exatly
[06:44] <Gangadhar> i've used my ubuntu CD to get live session..
[06:44] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: you are in live session?
[06:44] <Gangadhar> yeah right now am in live session..
[06:45] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: anything else you may have left out?
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Gangadhar: and you want to reset your password on the installed OS?
[06:46] <Gangadhar> ok.. after googling.. i've seen some instruction to uninstall ndvidia drivers and i did the same
[06:46] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: nvidia caused it?
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Gangadhar: what has a password got to do with nvidia drivers?
[06:47] <almoxarife> or grub-lite
[06:49] <Gangadhar> that made more worse to my laptop... the error which i had previously had gone and i could see only circlle rounding the logo
[06:49] <Gangadhar> i thought OS is loading and waited for a logn time.. still the same nothhing was happpening...
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Gangadhar: again, I thought you had a password issue?
[06:50] <Gangadhar> nope..
[06:50] <almoxarife> its like pulling teeth
[06:51] <KI4RO> .
[06:51] <Gangadhar> ==<almoxarife>any help plz.. i;ve very imp data on my system
[06:52] <Gangadhar> almoxarife : atleast i need my data safe..
[06:52] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: i have no clue what your problem is, and you have not helped , is the issue grub? or nvidia? cant log in?
[06:53] <Gangadhar> it is with grub
[06:53] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: your data should be avail to you via the livecd
[06:53] <Gangadhar> ok.. can u assist me how can i do that
[06:53] <almoxarife> Gangadhar: do what?
[06:53] <Gangadhar> i've external drive with me
[06:54] <bazhang> !enter | Gangadhar
[06:54] <Gangadhar> ok
[06:54] <bazhang> !grub2 | Gangadhar please have a read First
[06:55] <KI4RO> Trying out XCHAT for the first time.  Anyone know how to make the window larger?
[06:56] <bazhang> KI4RO, drag the lower right corner and adjust
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Gangadhar: if your data is "important" why do you not have a backup?
[06:56] <KI4RO> bazhang, Tried that to no avail
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> KI4RO: same as any app window in any app
[06:57] <almoxarife> KI4RO: re-start xchat
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> KI4RO: move the cursor slowly near the edges
[06:57] <KI4RO> ActionParsnip, I thought so too but nothing happens
[06:57] <Dako> hello
[06:57] <bazhang> KI4RO, hover your mouse there, the resize option will appear
[06:58] <reeed> maybe he is running X naked, without wm
[06:58] <johnesmiller> :)
[06:58] <Dako> I am having a problem installing Ubuntu on my machine
[06:58] <Dako> I was wondering if someone might be able to help me out
[06:58] <johnesmiller> what is the issue
[06:59] <almoxarife> !ask
[07:00] <Dako> I am trying to do an Ubuntu install on one of my desktops, I have an install disk burned. When I boot from disk - I get to the screen with the gradient background and it shows the load icon. After a minute or two it looks like something loads but then the screen goes completely black and all I see is the loading icon
[07:00] <KI4RO> .
[07:01] <almoxarife> KI4RO: would you stop with the dot thing
[07:01] <almoxarife> please
[07:02] <almoxarife> Dako: my first guess is that the cd/dvd is trash
[07:03] <almoxarife> Dako: better the the cd trash than the system not accepting an install
[07:03] <Dako> Okay - I am using ImgBurn to do the Iso, you think something else might work better? (this is my second CD - first one was trash)
[07:03] <reeed> if it got that far, it's unlikely the CD is trashed.
[07:03] <Dako> I am using a DVD
[07:04] <reeed> ditto
[07:04] <Dako> just to make it clear
[07:04] <almoxarife> Dako: then perhaps the image was trash, the iso?
[07:04] <Dako> I downloaded it from ubuntu and I didn't have any problems
[07:04] <almoxarife> Dako: verify the md5 hash
[07:04] <reeed> confirm that when the screen goes blank, you move the mouse and the pointer moves ?
[07:05] <Dako> when I move the mouse the pointer moves
[07:05] <reeed> you're doing an install, or just trying the liveCD ?
[07:06] <almoxarife> Dako: how about a simpler approach? 'mini.iso' , the greater portion of the install is network
[07:06] <Dako> I am attempting to do a full install
[07:06] <Dako> but I don't get the the install screen
[07:06] <Dako> mini.iso?
[07:06] <reeed> does the live CD mode work OK?
[07:06] <almoxarife> Dako: it will do a full install, mini.iso
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> mini iso is great
[07:07] <Dako> I can't do either - I never get to the screen that gives me the option
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Dako: what video chi pdo you use?
[07:07] <almoxarife> Dako: if you just want to plink with livecd then that is also an option, for an install though, MINI.ISO
[07:07] <Dako> ah, so mini.iso does the install with the files from the net
[07:08] <almoxarife> Dako: correct, you hardwired?
[07:08] <Dako> I will have to wait - no I am not hardwired
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Dako: wubi pulls down the ubuntu iso then uses it to install to a file in your NTFS
[07:08] <almoxarife> Dako: forget mini.iso
[07:09] <Dako> I was going to use a wireless PCI card once I have it up and running
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Dako: what video chip do you use please?
[07:09] <almoxarife> Dako: once up is not the issue, the initial install is
[07:09] <Dako> so I don't have to run a hard wire since it will require me drilling a hole in my floor - and I don't see that ending well with my security deposit
[07:10] <almoxarife> Dako: no, just means you have to have viable cd to begin with, what kind of box is it going on?
[07:10] <Dako> AMD
[07:11] <Dako> i am trying to pull info from the BIOs - it's an older machine, my brothers old desktop
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Dako: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[07:12] <almoxarife> Dako: how old and what cd did you choose to install?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Dako: if  that doesn't work:  radeon.nomodeset=1
[07:12] <Dako> I am doing Ubuntu 12.10
[07:12] <Dako> Desktop
[07:12] <almoxarife> Dako: how old
[07:12] <Dako> 5 years old?
[07:13] <almoxarife> Dako: not that old
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Dako: if its an Ati 2xxx, 3xxx or 4xxx then you will need a PPA for the legacy driver. The Xorg in Quantal hates those ATi GPUs
[07:13] <almoxarife> Dako: which 32/64 bit?
[07:13] <Dako> AMD Athlon 64
[07:14] <almoxarife> Dako: did you use 64bit iso?
[07:15] <Dako> ...no... i386... well that will cause some problems...
[07:15] <irishmac1022> Zael: can i install the latest ubuntu to my flash drive stably using unetbootin?
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Dako: you can run 32bit OS on 64bit CPU without issue
[07:15] <Dako> isnt the i386 though intel?
[07:17] <irishmac1022> can i install the latest ubuntu stably using unetbootin?
[07:17] <reeed> the mouse pointer still moves -- the machine hasn't crashed
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Dako: yes, i386 == 32bit
[07:18] <Dako> yes, but you said it should still work on my 64?
[07:18] <irishmac1022> can someone please answer my question? i am itching to get into Ubuntu
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Dako: yes, it will work. the only thing it will affect is that each process will only see 3.2Gb, but you can use up to 64Gb RAM
[07:19] <Dako> so that is not the cause of the boot disk failing
[07:19] <reeed> library(MASS)
[07:20] <irishmac1022> ActionParsnip: i hope that is gigabits :D
[07:20] <reeed> oops
[07:21] <heoyea> yelo
[07:21] <irishmac1022> ActionParsnip: can i install the latest ubuntu stably using unetbootin?
[07:22] <jamamp> irishmac1022, yes. unetbootin should have your usb live boot 12.10 finey. make sure it's at least 1gb, fat32, and clear of anything else. If you use it for a Mac make sure to install Refit
[07:22] <Dako> I will do another disk burn - try the amd64 version. See if that does it.
[07:22] <heoyea> dd command
[07:23] <irishmac1022> 8 gb, FAT32, and clear
[07:23] <reeed> Dako: I have another tip. When Ubuntu boots, press Escape to clear the boot splash screen and show the kernel messages
[07:23] <Dako> okay
[07:23] <JennyBlueBird> Ok, so I can't seem to enable middle mouse button emulation, and all googled solutions fail
[07:23] <heoyea> the matrix
[07:23] <JennyBlueBird> xorg.conf doesn't work
[07:23] <jamamp> irishmac1022, then it'll work fine
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> irishmac1022: sure
[07:23] <irishmac1022> jamamp: i apologize for multiple messages, im kind of excited
[07:24] <Dako> is there anything particular I am looking for?
[07:24] <JennyBlueBird> gpoint-settings seems to work but doesn't ( I checked the box, it doesn't make a difference )
[07:24] <jamamp> irishmac1022, don't worry. im just idling and nobody else was answering
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> irishmac1022: you only need 1Gb, you could use the rest for persistance :)
[07:24] <irishmac1022> alrighty :D
[07:24] <JennyBlueBird> "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.mouse middle-button-enabled true" complaisn about a missing schema
[07:24] <reeed> Dako: No, just report anything that you don't feel comfortable with.
[07:25] <Dako> Here /init: line 7: cant open /dev/sr0: no medium found
[07:25] <Dako> pwconv: failed to change the mode of /etc/passwd- to 0600
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Dako: is this in root recovery mode
[07:26] <irishmac1022> 12.10 downloading now, any tips or tricks i should know about?
[07:26] <Dako> no
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> irishmac1022: install and then get updated
[07:26] <Dako> ata1: SRST railed (errno=16)
[07:26] <heoyea> u need to know everything
[07:26] <irishmac1022> ActionParsnip: affirmative, 2 hours remaining... any faster way to get it?
[07:27] <Dako> I/O error, dev sr1, sector 5269** (a shit ton of these errors)
[07:27] <Dako> SQUASHFS error: Unable to read data cache entry
[07:28] <Dako> SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 100b5970, size ead4
[07:28] <OY1R> q: why when i set my laptop ip to static instead of dhcp cant i connect to the internet ?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> OY1R: if you use static IP you will need to set DNS servers too
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> OY1R: If you can ping 8.8.8.8 then its DNS
[07:29] <OY1R> ActionParsnip, ok so i set ip and try pinging 8.8.8.8 yes ?
[07:29] <phunyguy_t430s> So I am looking to change the color scheme on Ubuntu if possible... how does one install "themes"?
[07:29] <Jordan_U> Dako: That's definitely a bad disk.
[07:29] <reeed> what's 8.8.8.8 ??
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> OY1R: just ping 8.8.8.8 to see if routing is ok first
[07:29] <jamamp> irishmac1022, when everyhting's good do 'sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping' to get rid of amazon search in unity
[07:29] <Dako> bad CD or bad hard disk?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> reeed: 8.8.8.8 is Google's public DNS
[07:30] <jamamp> irishmac1022, big security and privacy and convenience thing
[07:30] <reeed> wow, that's a cool IP addr
[07:30] <OY1R> it's ping'able
[07:30] <Jordan_U> Dako: Bad CD (or CD drive),.
[07:30] <phunyguy_t430s> I usually test on 4.2.2.2
[07:30] <phunyguy_t430s> :)
[07:30] <heoyea> bad news
[07:30] <reeed> OY1R: setup using DHCP first
[07:30] <irishmac1022> jamamp: roger, i dont like amazon anyway
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> OY1R: then it's just DNS
[07:30] <OY1R> i am using dhcp atm
[07:30] <reeed> OY1R: then do "ifconfig /a" and note the IP and settings
[07:31] <reeed> OY1R: then switch to static and use the same numbers
[07:31] <reeed> OY1R: you probably also need to to do a "route add default _____"
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Dako: Try reburning the CD/DVD again at the slowest speed and use the "check disk for defects" option at the boot menu before installing, even if it seems to boot correctly at first (this is important, you don't want to use a bad disk or drive to install from and the self test will check both).
[07:32] <reeed> OY1R: try this now: "netstat -r" and note the "default" entry
[07:32] <Dako> Okay
[07:33] <OY1R> default genmast 0.0.0.0
[07:33] <Dako> still I am getting can't open /dev/sr0: no medium found
[07:33] <Dako> but it is going through and doing the check
[07:33] <reeed> yeah then the command (for static IP setup) is "route add default genmast"
[07:34] <reeed> your /dev/sr0 is fried
[07:34] <Dako> what is that?
[07:34] <Jordan_U> reeed: OY1R: As we've pretty firmly established that the problem is with DNS, fiddly with routs and internal ip addresses is futile.
[07:34] <reeed> Jordan_U: OK
[07:35] <OY1R> ok thanks
[07:35] <OY1R> so 8.8.8.8
[07:35] <OY1R> what about the gateway ?
[07:35] <reeed> OY1R: listen to Jordan_U
[07:35] <OY1R> address 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 and gateway ?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> OY1R: It sounds like all you need to do is set a DNS server to use. How are you configuring this static connection?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> OY1R: To clarify though, you have tried pinging 8.8.8.8 while you weren't using DHCP, correct?
[07:38] <Dako> Is there an Ubuntu 12 install that is under 700 MB so I can do a burn on a normal CD and see if my other non DVD drive works?
[07:38] <reeed> mini.iso :-)
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> server?
[07:39] <OY1R_> that was simple, thanks"
[07:39] <OY1R_> !
[07:41] <Dako> interesting - I have a table that shows up now with one column of 'data' one column of 'prog' and then in the table footer "err 201: eff2f6 1"
[07:41] <Dako> and "ip d3a7: 2.7"
[07:42] <reeed> the aliens are now in your computer
[07:43] <Dako> that excalated quickly
[07:44] <Dako> This whole thing would be easier if my bios let me just boot from USB...
[07:45] <reeed> why wouldn't it boot from U ?
[07:45] <Dako> there is no option to do so
[07:47] <mehwork> my laptop still plays sound out of the speaker after pluggin headphones in, any idea why?
[07:48] <jamamp> How old is the computer/mobo? Seems like a common function within the past several years
[07:48] <mehwork> brand new
[07:48] <researcher123> is there a software in Ubuntu using which I can extract email IDs from a doc ?
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> i have to reboot my latop 3 times stuck on purple boot screen, how can i solve this
[07:49] <irishmac1022> i tried to download ubuntu 12.10 from torrent site, but apartment complex seems to have blocked torrent connections D:
[07:49] <reeed> researcher123: man strings
[07:49] <jamamp> irishmac1022, ubuntu.com hosts it fine. not too slow a download imo
[07:50] <researcher123> reeed: thanks.Im trying
[07:50] <Dako> Here are my boot options: Floppy, LS120, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ZIP, USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, USB-CDROM, Legacy LAN
[07:50] <reeed> Dako: it shuld recognise your USBstick. *but* you need to format it correctly.
[07:50] <reeed> Dako: use UNetBootin
[07:50] <irishmac1022> jamamp: slow internet connection offered by apr complex, no other choice, got about 21 hour download time
[07:51] <reeed> irishmac1022: my sympathies
[07:51] <jamamp> irishmac1022, oh jeez. seems like tehtering through a phone would be better
[07:51] <irishmac1022> reeed: i guess you could kind of see why i would use the torrent :D
[07:52] <irishmac1022> jamamp: no unlimited internet
[07:52] <irishmac1022> jamamp: *stupid AT&T*
[07:52] <Dako> UNetBootin? What should I set as the boot option?
[07:52] <jamamp> irishmac1022, internet cafe/library? unfortunately it's late
[07:53] <irishmac1022> jamamp: yeah its 0:53 here
[07:54] <irishmac1022> jamamp: it sped up to 7 hours :D
[07:54] <jamamp> nice!
[07:54] <irishmac1022> 6 hours
[07:54] <irishmac1022> 5 hours
[07:55] <irishmac1022> my apt complex has had illegal torrenting problems in the past so the ISP just banned it altogether
[07:55] <Josh> Is there any mac alike DE available for Ubuntu?
[07:55] <irishmac1022> 4 hours
[07:56] <x_> what is the benefit of a 3.5 kernel vs a 2.6 kernel ?
[07:56] <irishmac1022> back to 5 hours
[07:57] <Dako> reeed: out of these [Floppy, LS120, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ZIP, USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, USB-CDROM, Legacy LAN] Which one should I set as the boot option for it to boot from the USB?
[07:57] <x_> irishmac1022, I don't think anyone cares about your terrible internet :-\
[07:57] <irishmac1022> 21.3 MB out of 753
[07:57] <irishmac1022> x_: oh well
[07:57] <irishmac1022> x_: lol
[07:57] <reeed> Dako: dunno. Try each of the USB-XXX in turn?
[07:57] <x_> Dako, what is usb-fdd? you mean usb-hdd ?
[07:57] <jamamp> Dako, most likely USB-FDD. im not sure what zip would be, and usb-cdrom might mean an external cddrive
[07:58] <irishmac1022> x_: i can pretend they care, right?
[07:58] <almoxarife> x_: i cared
[07:58] <x_>  irishmac1022 if that makes you feel better
[07:58] <reeed> ZIP is a kind of super floppy, c.2000
[07:58] <almoxarife> x_: dont assume for me
[07:58] <reeed> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_drive
[07:58] <irishmac1022> well thank you for caring
[07:58] <x_> almoxarife, screw off, I said I don't *think* anyone cares
[07:58] <Dako> x_ no, it is USB-FDD
[07:59] <x_> if you care good for you.
[07:59] <x_> I bet 99% of people don't care if his net sucks
[07:59] <anv`a`ndare> rhythmbox is skipping when playing back mp3s like a cdplayer with an old cd. what to do?
[07:59] <x_> and how is he saying 4hrs 5hrs xxMB out of xxMb downloaded ubuntu support related?
[07:59] <irishmac1022> in another channel we have a bot that we can enter commands like !g <something> and it googles it and posts the topmost lnk
[08:00] <reeed> !g ubuntu
[08:00] <irishmac1022> come over to #ahk and do !g ubuntu
[08:00] <reeed> which _ubuntu are you guys on? X? L? K?
[08:01] <almoxarife> irishmac1022: that i dont care for, dont spam
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> reeed: most guys here are on stock
[08:01] <farhan> what is ubuntu's default email server type?
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> how can i solve purple boot screens freezing instead of login window?
[08:01] <irishmac1022> i dont mean to spam just stating a feature of hers
[08:02] <irishmac1022> i apologize
[08:02] <farhan> I'm looking through the Ubuntu manual, but Can't find it
[08:02] <reeed> lotuspsychje: press Escape during bootup so you can see the kernel messages
[08:02] <x_> irishmac1022, put a sock in it
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> reeed:is that something other then f1 messages?
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> reeed:any other logs i can see those kernel messages?
[08:04] <almoxarife> lotuspsychje: /var/log/kern.log
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> lets see
[08:05] <helmut_> hi
[08:07] <reedos> how to execute VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.txt
[08:07] <reedos> thanks
[08:07] <reedos> how to execute VMware-Workstation-Full-9.0.1-894247.x86_64.txt
[08:07] <Dako> Well I'll be damned... the 12.4.1 version is 695MB - fits on a normal CD. I will see if it is the DVD drive on the computer instead of the CD Drive
[08:07] <anv`a`ndare> music playback keeps skipping no matter which music player i use
[08:07] <anv`a`ndare> what to do?
[08:08] <anv`a`ndare> something wrong with a codec perhaps?
[08:08] <almoxarife> anv`a`ndare: playback from where?
[08:08] <anv`a`ndare> i listened to these mp3s before and there were no recorded skips
[08:08] <anv`a`ndare> from mp3 files
[08:09] <almoxarife> anv`a`ndare: before on same machine with same os?
[08:09] <anv`a`ndare> same machine but different os
[08:09] <anv`a`ndare> was using windows 7 and osx
[08:10] <almoxarife> anv`a`ndare: what player?
[08:10] <anv`a`ndare> rhythmbox and audicious, same skipping. i suppose they use same codec
[08:12] <dcherniv> anv`a`ndare, nope different codecs. check your dmesg for "polling mode" or something similar
[08:12] <anv`a`ndare> ugh, dont know what that means
[08:12] <jsr423> hello
[08:13] <jsr423> can anyone see my text?
[08:13] <reeed> roger
[08:13] <jsr423> sweet
[08:13] <jsr423> does anyone have any experience with c programing?
[08:13] <almoxarife> dcherniv: where to look for dmesg?
[08:13] <reeed> jsr423: i'm good
[08:13] <BlueEagle> !anyone | jsr423
[08:14] <dcherniv> almoxarife, run dmesg | grep -i "*poll*" in terminal
[08:14] <BlueEagle> jsr423: I'm still waiting for the real question.
[08:15] <\\Mr_C\\> if i installed the server 12.10 and i type X and its just blank, whats the problem? if i press alt-ctrl and f1 i can go there and then press ctrl-c and it returns with no errors
[08:15] <reeed> maybe he needs coaxing
[08:15] <phunyguy_t430s> !patience | BlueEagle
[08:15] <phunyguy_t430s> :)
[08:15] <BlueEagle> !helpful | phunyguy_t430s
[08:15] <BlueEagle> Bahh.. Either that has been removed or was something else.
[08:16] <phunyguy_t430s> *shrug*
[08:16] <dcherniv> \\Mr_C\\, try running startx
[08:16] <\\Mr_C\\> i did
[08:16] <\\Mr_C\\> that works
[08:16] <dcherniv> \\Mr_C\\, so whats the problem?
[08:16] <\\Mr_C\\> hehe
[08:16] <\\Mr_C\\> im new, and what is the difference in startx, xinit, X, Xorg ?
[08:17] <\\Mr_C\\> are they different in any way or the way they work?
[08:17] <dcherniv> \\Mr_C\\, startx setups up the enviroment for X and such
[08:17] <dcherniv> \\Mr_C\\, thats the one that should be used if you want to start X from console
[08:17] <\\Mr_C\\> what is X and Xorg for then?
[08:17] <reeed> \\Mr_C\\: type "X & sleep 5; xterm -display :0"
[08:18] <dcherniv> \\Mr_C\\, startx runs xinit, xinit runs Xorg, Xorg runs X binary
[08:18] <farhan> so, I was using dpkg-reconfigure and then killed the process. Now I'm getting an error saying that /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat is locked. How do I unlock it?
[08:18] <jsr423> hey I'm having an issue with the sort function at the end of my program in c, here is a link to it http://codepad.org/ganCKNPr
[08:18] <\\Mr_C\\> oh
[08:18] <BlueEagle> \\Mr_C\\: startx starts your default X session (as specified in .xinitrc. xinit I haven't heard of. X and Xorg are names for the windowserver which startx starts. Note that in addition to X you would want to run a window manager like Gnome, KDE, XFCE4 and so on.
[08:19] <\\Mr_C\\> reeed, it worked
[08:19] <alexgl> hey guys i installed lubuntu and installing lamp stack, for some reason i'm missing a /etc/php5/apache2 entry. any ideas?
[08:19] <dcherniv> jsr423, that aint sort, thats garbage
[08:20] <reeed> \\Mr_C\\: i'm good
[08:20] <\\Mr_C\\> ok, i understand now, i thought they were different programs
[08:20] <dcherniv> jsr423, you have to swap the values instead of just erasing the ones stored in copystor[k]
[08:20] <dcherniv> jsr423, line 156-157-158
[08:20] <BlueEagle> alexgl: Which command(s) did you use to install the lamp stack?
[08:21] <\\Mr_C\\> i really like how i can install the aps-get thing, not used to this, last time i used linux i was like 15 years ago
[08:21] <alexgl> BlueEagle, it's from here, http://groups.drupal.org/node/24230 specifically sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 etc
[08:21] <jsr423> dcherniv, makes sense
[08:21] <reeed> 15 years ago Linux was Minix
[08:22]  * reeed ducks
[08:22] <jsr423> ill give it a shot and post again in abit
[08:22] <phunyguy_t430s> wait, we provide C support in here too?
[08:22] <BlueEagle> alexgl: More to the point. Have you installed libapache2-mod-php5 ?
[08:23] <alexgl> BlueEagle, i must've missed that one
[08:23] <BlueEagle> alexgl: That would explain the missing directory I guess. :)
[08:23] <phunyguy_t430s> jsr423, dcherniv, looks an awful lot like homework...
[08:23] <jsr423>  phunyguy_t430s my final exam is in 2 days
[08:23] <reeed> jsr423: my sympathies
[08:23] <phunyguy_t430s> *sigh*
[08:23] <jsr423> i am playing with code to learn
[08:23] <alexgl> BlueEagle, thanks
[08:24] <reeed> jsr423: best way to learn
[08:24] <phunyguy_t430s> !ot jsr423
[08:24] <phunyguy_t430s> !ot | jsr423
[08:24] <BlueEagle> alexgl: Most welcome. Please also read up on litterature on securing your box if you plan to expose servers to the web. That goes double if you plan to set up a mail server.
[08:24] <cheesecakes> anyone here can help me with a grub query
[08:24] <jsr423> what does !ot mean?
[08:24] <BlueEagle> !ot | jsr423
[08:25] <phunyguy_t430s> like I just said... lol
[08:25] <BlueEagle> !anyone | cheesecakes
[08:25] <jsr423> off topic lol?
[08:25] <cheesecakes> i want to install arch alongside ubuntu and windows on the same HDD
[08:25] <phunyguy_t430s> jsr423, your C homework is DEFINITELY off topic.
[08:25] <BlueEagle> jsr423: Yes, your query is outside of the scope of this channel.
[08:26] <jsr423> phunyguy_t430s it is not homework and you do not need to be an ass about it. BlueEagle sorry changing channels
[08:26] <phunyguy_t430s> o.O
[08:26] <phunyguy_t430s> really?
[08:26] <phunyguy_t430s> !language |  jsr423
[08:27] <phunyguy_t430s> how's that?
[08:27] <BlueEagle> !enter | phunyguy_t430s
[08:27] <phunyguy_t430s> hah!
[08:28]  * phunyguy_t430s high-fives BlueEagle 
[08:28] <\\Mr_C\\> last question for now, if im in the X session, how do i exit without going to ctrl-alt -f1 and pressing ctrl-c?
[08:28] <\\Mr_C\\> all i see is a mouse point and nothing to click
[08:29] <node1> hello all
[08:29] <BlueEagle> \\Mr_C\\: I think: killall -hup xorg
[08:29] <\\Mr_C\\> umm
[08:29] <\\Mr_C\\> no where to type
[08:30] <\\Mr_C\\> just blank with a huge X
[08:30] <BlueEagle> \\Mr_C\\: You might want to run `/etc/init.d/ldm start` instead of just X
[08:31] <BlueEagle> \\Mr_C\\: If you do not have a window manager (or terminal emulator) running then you have little in the ways of telling the X-server to shut down. Therefore you would have to switch to a terminal and force it to close.
[08:31] <\\Mr_C\\> ok
[08:32] <reeed> not sure if Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server
[08:32] <reeed> (in old versions it did)
[08:33] <reeed> \\Mr_C\\: you need to install a window manager, or a desktop environment (eg KDE, GNOME)
[08:34] <\\Mr_C\\> reeed it doesnt work
[08:34]  * reeed shrieks
[08:34] <almoxarife> :)
[08:34] <reeed> \\Mr_C\\: you need to install a window manager, or a desktop environment (eg KDE, GNOME)
[08:34] <reeed> how did u manage to get naked X ?
[08:35] <BlueEagle> cheesecakes: I am still waiting for your question. What do you need to know regarding Grub? If it was me I would install in the order Windows, Arch, Ubuntu because I know Ubuntu to be really good at detecting other OS installations.
[08:36] <BlueEagle> reeed: I think that was changed to ctrl+alt+ins at one point and then disabled by default as X grew more stable.
[08:36] <reeed> BlueEagle: amen
[08:36] <irishmac1022> how portable is ubuntu when installed on a flash drive and run? does it leave any trace whatsoever?
[08:37] <reeed> u up to no good?
[08:37] <aeon-ltd> irishmac1022: it loads stuff to ram, how dedicated are the people following you?
[08:37] <\\Mr_C\\> reeed i install the server plain
[08:38] <BlueEagle> irishmac1022: That depends. By default a pendrive installation does not automatically mount any HDDs. But when you mount and/or write to a hdd you would change the access times of files and so on and that could count as a trace.
[08:39] <reeed> \\Mr_C\\: then u need to install a plain window manager too
[08:39] <reeed> i previously used icewm
[08:39] <BlueEagle> \\Mr_C\\: Perhaps you want to look at the *-desktop virtual packages if you would want to run X. If you want a minimal setup then xubuntu-desktop is one of the lighter options. If you want to do it from scratch then perhaps you would want to read up on how LFS or Gentoo is set up.
[08:39] <irishmac1022> BlueEagle: but no trace if you use unetbootin?
[08:39] <reeed> quick n dirty, does the job
[08:39] <irishmac1022> and installed on flash drive
[08:40] <BlueEagle> irishmac1022: On a "regular PC" it should not leave a trace. However some BIOS-es log power cycles and that is something outside of OS control.
[08:41] <irishmac1022> ok, so unless the snooper knows what they are doing i will be safe?
[08:41] <irishmac1022> just hypothetical
[08:42] <irishmac1022> im not going to do anything bad just curious
[08:43] <BlueEagle> irishmac1022: If you are mounting harddisk partitions then you will leave all sorts of traces in the allocation tables.
[08:43] <hadAch> Hi at all
[08:43] <reeed> did u manage to fix your E key, hadAch ?
[08:44] <irishmac1022> and how safe is the internet browsing for ubuntu?
[08:44] <aeon-ltd> reeed: donate some on your Es
[08:44] <reeed> internet? safe??
[08:44] <hadAch> E key?
[08:44] <reeed> aeon-ltd: good one :-)
[08:44] <irishmac1022> like how safer is it
[08:45] <aeon-ltd> irishmac1022: it's as safe as you set it to be
[08:45] <reeed> hadAch: headAche?
[08:45] <hadAch> hahaha no
[08:45] <irishmac1022> its not completely safe, nothing is, but it won't have virtually any viruses right?
[08:45] <reeed> no viruses
[08:45] <hadAch> normally its haderach
[08:46] <hadAch> but it was taken
[08:46] <farhan> I just installed postfix and went through the configuration, but mail is still not being delivered to my server.
[08:46] <reeed> hadAch: !!!! ok !!!! sorry !!
[08:46] <hadAch> np
[08:46] <llutz> farhan: check /var/log/mail.*
[08:46] <aeon-ltd> irishmac1022: but you are still prone to other forms of attack like phishing, and exploits in software like java flash etc
[08:46] <irishmac1022> i managed to get a torrent connection but im tired and pausing it until i wake up, goodnite
[08:46] <farhan> llutz: Thanks :-)
[08:47] <farhan> relax access denied...
[08:48] <hadAch> i have an problem reagarding my wireless keyboard + flash:
[08:48] <hadAch> Many times it partly freezes my pc, e.g. could not use normal keyboard keys, but audiocontrol key work
[08:48] <hadAch> Also the lock after time screen does not work, I cannot open new Programs, but i can use the old oney with my mouse.
[08:48] <hadAch>  
[08:48] <\\Mr_C\\> you sure are a bunch of friendly people, not like back in the beginning on efnet
[08:48] <FloodBot1> hadAch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:49] <reeed> \\Mr_C\\: we're good
[08:49] <llutz> farhan: i guess you mean "relay access denied" and you want to check your configuration again. also there is #postfix
[08:51] <BlueEagle> hadAch: You may want to have xev running so that when this happens you can see if anything is received by the X server.
[08:52] <BlueEagle> hadAch: That will determine if it's the X server or the window manager that is at fault.
[08:52] <hadAch> thx
[08:53] <hadAch> i will try
[08:57] <patie> what GPU is better for linux/ubuntu ? nvidia / amd ?
[08:57] <patie> ati ?
[08:57] <reeed> for what application?
[08:59] <farhan> Grr, why can't I get postfix working?!~
[08:59] <almoxarife> patie: the one who most supports opensource drivers or has the biggest stable of linux drivers
[09:00] <llutz> so, intel
[09:01] <almoxarife> intel works for me :) so does nvidia so far
[09:03] <almoxarife> would increasing the screen resolution have any bearing on vid quality?
[09:05] <farhan> I purged postfix, but though I reinstalled it I now don't have /usr/bin/mail. How do I get it back?
[09:05] <BlueEagle> almoxarife: If you run a 1024x768 display and run a 1080p video then you will get increased video quality by increasing the resolution.
[09:08] <almoxarife> BlueEagle: thnks
[09:11] <hadAch> hi if i use xev -> i get the same result. no normal key events, but ctrl+shift+del works, and i see that event in xev
[09:11] <Dako> so I finally got Ubuntu installed, and when I restarted I ama getting the following error: "symbol not found: 'grub_disk_firmware_is_tainted'
[09:12] <serp_> doesnt sound too good
[09:12] <farhan> I just 'purged' postfix, and though I re-installed it, I do not have /usr/bin/mail. How do I get it back?
[09:13] <llutz> farhan: install bsd-mailx (which requires a mta being installed)
[09:14] <llutz> farhan: you just want to send some mails from your site to a smarthost? use msmtp/ssmtp instead of postfix, much easier to configure
[09:14] <hadAch> BlueEagle: If i unplug my usb-wirles keaybaord adatper everything works well for a short time. (Even the lock screen appers. Is it the fault of the windows manager or of X ?
[09:15] <reeed> Dako: so it worked?! /dev/sr0 is borked?
[09:15] <BlueEagle> hadAch: If you unplug (and replug) your wireless keyboard adapter the keyboard starts working? Is it Bluetooth or generic rf?
[09:16] <farhan> awesome, thanks :-)
[09:16] <hadAch> yes, its an wireless keyboard from logitech i think with normal wirless kommunication on 2.4 ghz
[09:16] <BlueEagle> hadAch: The adapter has a connect button or similar on it, right?
[09:17] <hadAch> BlueEagle: yes its works again. its an wireless keyboard from logitech i think with normal wirless kommunication on 2.4 ghz
[09:17] <farhan> got an alternative to 'pine' that's better?
[09:17] <BlueEagle> farhan: birch? </jk>
[09:18] <reeed> elm
[09:18] <llutz> farhan: mutt, alpine
[09:19] <BlueEagle> hadAch: What you could try is to hold the connect button on the receiver as you plug it in and keep holding it for ~5 seconds. I know some logitech keyboards work better that way for no discernable reason.
[09:20] <BlueEagle> hadAch: It could be that that just applies to Bluetooth keyboards. Ie. they fall back to RF:
[09:20] <almoxarife> how does a mail spammer make a buck?
[09:21] <hilarie> Anyone know of a media player that has a web interface like media player classic does?
[09:21] <BlueEagle> !ot | almoxarife
[09:22] <BlueEagle> hilarie: kplaylist is a web based meida player.
[09:22] <almoxarife> hilarie: xbmc
[09:23] <hadAch> BlueEagle: I have no connect button, (logitech is correct)
[09:23] <hadAch> BlueEagle:  It could be that that just applies to Bluetooth keyboards. Ie. they fall back to RF: what todo then?
[09:23] <almoxarife> hilarie: xbmc has a android remote even, nevermind they got it to run on android too
[09:24] <BlueEagle> hadAch: Then I do not know. Perhaps open a window to tail /var/log/kern.log and see if anything useful hops up there when the keyboard falls out.
[09:26] <hadAch> ok thx, i try it but i did that before and found nothing useful
[09:27] <manisabri> Hi . I have some invalid path in my $PATH that I want to remove but Its not in .profile or .bashrc , where else should I look?
[09:29] <llutz> manisabri: /etc/profile (environment, bash.bashrc)
[09:30] <manisabri> thanks
[09:32] <bjorn_> hey how do i make one of those like more than 1 directory at once like
[09:32] <bjorn_> 2012-01 and then 2012-02 etc
[09:32] <bjorn_> but in one command?
[09:33] <Jordan_U> bjorn_: for dir in 2012-{01..10}; do mkdir "$dir"; done
[09:34] <llutz> bjorn_: mkdir 2012-0{1,2}
[09:34] <Kalidarn> hmm, noob question, if i wanted to check the date in say San Diego, which is california, and i did TZ=
[09:34] <Kalidarn> what would it be?
[09:34] <Kalidarn> America/???
[09:34] <bjorn_> thx
[09:34] <manisabri> mmm . its not in bash.bashrc either. the path is /usr/local/games I think one of the games of humble bundle did that but it didn't work with my dual monitor setup so I uninstalled it but I don't know where is added the path , any ideas?
[09:35] <Jordan_U> bjorn_: You're welcome.
[09:35] <llutz> manisabri: /usr/local/games is a debian default path
[09:36] <llutz> manisabri: look at /etc/profile
[09:37] <worm> Kalidarn: How about have a look at /usr/share/zoneinfo ? I think that Los_Angeles probably work
[09:37] <Kalidarn> ah my answer was TZ=PST8CDT date
[09:37] <manisabri> oh right and it even exist!  why I'm getting the No such file or directory when looking at $PATH?!
[09:37] <Jordan_U> manisabri: What do you mean by "looking at" $PATH?
[09:38] <manisabri> typing $PATH at bash prompt and hitting enter
[09:38] <llutz> manisabri: echo $PATH
[09:39] <Jordan_U> manisabri: That's not how you display variables, that tries to run the command whose name is contained in the variable $PATH. You want "echo $PATH".
[09:39] <manisabri> uh i see ... thanks a lot
[09:40] <manisabri> I thought thats why I'm not getting the added paths that I added to .bash.rc , must be something else then
[09:40] <meinolf> hi
[09:40] <hublao> Hello , which is a decent software for resizing images for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[09:40] <Hon-Bun> hi everyone!
[09:41] <llutz> hublao: convert (imagemagick)
[09:41] <meinolf> hi who are you
[09:41] <bjorn_> hublao i think gimp might work
[09:43] <worm> GIMP is really useful and HUGE! That is sometimes considered as open-sourced PhotoShop... That should work.
[09:43] <alok_> anyone used gluster
[09:45] <nongoogle> i feel butthurt because i didn't figure out how to get the script running on the USB stick as per recipee :C
[09:45] <sawrubh> hey, is there any way I could support for USB3.0 in Ubuntu 12.04
[09:46] <sawrubh> I tried searching fr solutions online but nothing seemed to be fruitful
[09:50] <hublao> thanks llutz , bjorn_  and worm
[09:55] <razas> Hello, im using Ubuntu 12.04.  Today when im trying to install any package using sudo apt-get install <package_name>, im getting "  Could not connect to ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org:80 (111.90.255.252). - connect (111: Connection refused).Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org/ubuntu/pool/main/i/irssi/irssi_0.8.15-4ubuntu3_i386.deb  Could not connect to ubuntu.oss.eznetsols.org:80 (111.90.255.252). - connect (111: Connection refus
[09:55] <razas> ed)E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?"
[09:56] <razas> My /etc/apt/sources.list is as follows : http://pastie.org/private/xbyzz4bxwii1xan2k84d6w
[09:57] <Ben64> razas: switch to a different repository then?
[09:57] <razas> Ben64: which one would u recommend.im located in india
[09:58] <razas> btw, is the repo down ?
[09:58] <heoyea> do update 1st
[09:58] <Ben64> that one you listed is down
[09:58] <razas> Ben64: k i did sudo apt-get update
[10:00] <razas> Ben64: what change should i make in sources.list ?
[10:00] <Ben64> razas: open the software center, go to edit->software sources
[10:00] <Ben64> there should be a thing that says "Download from:"
[10:00] <Ben64> you can change it there to somewhere close to you
[10:02] <Hon-Bun> I install Ubuntu use windows installer (via wubi.exe), I choose 30GB for my Ubuntu :)
[10:02] <razas> Ben64: got it...thanks a lot :)
[10:02] <bandymas> asd
[10:05] <diverdude> Hey, /dev/sdX are harddisks. What is then /dev/hdX ?
[10:05] <llutz> diverdude: disk not handled by libata
[10:06] <diverdude> llutz, what does that mean?
[10:07] <llutz> diverdude: years ago, scsi disks were named /dev/sdX and IDE were /dev/hdX, then they all were handled by libata and named /dev/sdX
[10:07] <diverdude> ahhh okay...i see
[10:08] <diverdude> thanks
[10:08] <qwebirc13600> hello complete newb here looking for networking help
[10:08] <llutz> diverdude: there aren't many distros using /dev/hdX today
[10:08] <qwebirc13600> i have no wlan0 and am trying to get wifi connectivity
[10:08] <anonymos> bonjour
[10:09] <qwebirc13600> although I know the server has wifi
[10:09] <bandymas> bonjour
[10:09] <anonymos> vous aller bien
[10:10] <anonymos> comment je peux mi dentifier
[10:10] <worm> !fr | anonymos
[10:12] <qwebirc13600> looking for ubuntu help for a n00bie
[10:13] <john__> hi, I installed gedit amd64 and need to deinstall it, but dkpg -r  and apt-get remove do not work
[10:13] <john__> anybody an idea
[10:14] <wildwind> john__: what do apt-get say?
[10:15] <piglet> hi there
[10:15] <piglet> anyone using NFSv4+idmapd+LDAP ? I would like to check something
[10:15] <john__> wildwind, I installed in manually via dpkg force
[10:15] <ania_> qwebirc13600, hi are u there?
[10:15] <john__> wildwind, so apt-get says it is not installed
[10:15] <alisas> yes
[10:16] <wildwind> ok what dpkg says
[10:16] <alisas> binary file?
[10:16] <john__> wildwind, it says gedit:amd64
[10:16] <ania_> qwebirc13600, what to you see desktop? in top right corner should be icon of wifi manager
[10:17] <john__> wildwind, dpkg --remove gedit:amd64 ... does not work
[10:18] <almoxarife> john__: is your system a 64bit system? with a 64bit buntu?
[10:18] <john__> almoxarife, nope, thats the problem
[10:18] <wildwind> john__: try dpkg --audit
[10:20] <john__> wildwind, ok says need to configure it... but configure does not work
[10:21] <almoxarife> john__: did you already have gedit installed? 32bit?
[10:21] <wildwind> try dpkg --purge
[10:21] <john__> almoxarife, yes before
[10:22] <john__> wildc4rd, dpkg --purge what?
[10:22] <CasW> Hey guys, I've set my computer to AHCI and back to IDE, and now Ubuntu won't start anymore, all I see is a blank screen with a cursor.
[10:22] <almoxarife> john__: does gedit run?
[10:22] <john__> almoxarife, no
[10:23] <almoxarife> john__: sudo dpkg --purge gedit <-- anything happen?
[10:24] <john__> almoxarife, it says that gedit is not installed
[10:25] <almoxarife> john__: when you forced the install, did alot of 64bit libs get installed with gedit?
[10:25] <tripelb> anyone with experience with Ubuntu on Nexus 7?
[10:26] <john__> almoxarife, cant say really
[10:26] <almoxarife> tripelb: yeap, on android anyway
[10:27] <almoxarife> john__: does 'sudo apt-get update ' finish error free?
[10:28] <wildwind> john__: pastebin dpkg --audit
[10:28] <tripelb> almoxarife: you have one?  I ordered.  might come as early as Monday.
[10:28] <almoxarife> tripelb: ? have what?
[10:28] <tripelb> I will need to make love jump from for L which I have on my phone to jelly bean. What joy!
[10:28] <john__> wildwind, http://pastebin.com/PqejdmwG
[10:29] <john__> almoxarife, yes it does
[10:29] <tripelb> s/for L/Froyo/
[10:29] <tripelb> palm
[10:30] <tripelb> almoxarife: I asked about nexus (oops,  forgot the 7) and Ubuntu on nexus.
[10:31] <wildwind> john__: dpkg --purge gedit:amd64; pastebin if any arrors
[10:31] <almoxarife> john__: is the executable gedit sitting in /usr/bin ?
[10:31] <tripelb> sorry re voicetype error
[10:32] <john__> wildwind, http://pastebin.com/zQLeFvmD
[10:32] <almoxarife> tripelb: i dont have a nexus, i have a rooted KF with lxde-buntu installed
[10:32] <john__> almoxarife,  yes
[10:33] <gccster> guys when i use 75hz in my monitor settings in ubuntu my display has wrong horizontal position and can't be fixed by monitor menu can anybody help?
[10:33] <tripelb> I will will need to make the jump from Froyo, which I have on my phone, to jelly bean on the new Nexus 7. What joy!
[10:34] <gccster> is there any command for .config/monitor.xml to give it horizontal position like -20?
[10:36] <tripelb> almoxarife: oh.  that's cool.  But different. is that a phone? --- after I check out my Nexus  7, then I will root it and install Ubuntu. I wanted to know about switching back. Or switching back and forth.
[10:36] <almoxarife> tripelb: you need to head to #android-root :)
[10:40] <john__> I guess reinstall complete os ``
[10:40] <almoxarife> john__: here's a thought, install gedit via 'sudo apt-get install gedit' , apt does not know it is there, first rename gedit in /usr/bin to something else, gedit.bak , see what that does
[10:41] <almoxarife> john__: re-install? if you did the same with alot of other apps then maybe, but the issue is only gedit? correct?
[10:42] <almoxarife> unless the install is fresh, then have at it john__...
[10:42] <john__> almoxarife, I tried to rename it and install it, it does not work, it stops because of gedit error
[10:43] <john__> almoxarife, well, not really, and yes, it is only this problem :x
[10:43] <almoxarife> john__: you tried to re-install a 64bit app or just plain 'gedit'?
[10:44] <john__> almoxarife, I tried to install gedit via apt-get
[10:44] <Guest25331> Is it possible to have programs, that can only be run from the shell, autostart?
[10:44] <Guest25331> I mean all in one shell?
[10:44] <john__> almoxarife, http://pastebin.com/7MBmErHe
[10:44] <llutz> john__: apt-file search gedit |awk '/^gedit:/ { print $2 }' | xargs rm
[10:45] <llutz> john__: you still will have to get gedit out of the broken dpkg database (just an ugly way as an idea)
[10:46] <almoxarife> john__: the 64bit deb is here >/var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:48] <alinmear> hi all! i am currently playing with gnome 3 and have the following issue; when i gonna press the super button the start menu appears but there is still no background image; any advice? thx!
[10:49] <john__> llutz, ok I tried, all is "no such file or directory"
[10:49] <john__> almoxarife, not sure what you mean?
[10:50] <almoxarife> john__: the 64bit deb is here >/var/cache/apt/archives/ <-- the deb file is located at that location, delete it,
[10:50] <Guest25331> How can I auto start programs after logging into Ubuntu. Cron starts programs on a specified schedule but I want certain programs to always start after logging into Ubuntu. Is that possible?
[10:51] <john__> almoxarife, no it is not there
[10:51] <MadsRC> Anybody know how to check which processes keeps a drive from spinning down?
[10:52] <CasW> Hey guys, I've set my computer to AHCI and back to IDE and now Ubuntu won't boot anymore, all I see is a blank screen with a cursor, could you help me fix it?
[10:52] <almoxarife> john__: right, thats the 32bit
[10:53] <john__> Guest25331, you can add in Session and Startup in ubuntu
[10:54] <almoxarife> john__: whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy did you knowingly try that install? just curious
[10:54] <john__> almoxarife, I tried to remove zeitgeist and reinstall gedit without zeitgeist
[10:54] <Guest25331> john__, is there a way to do this over the shell?
[10:54] <john__> almoxarife, and just did not remember that I had i386 on this laptop...
[10:55] <john__> Guest25331, to add the autostart? I dont know how
[10:55] <almoxarife> john__: rule of thumb, dont use the extentions, there is a way to clean this up, question is what do you have to lose from a fresh install?
[10:55] <Guest25331> john__, yes to start programs automatically after logging in
[10:56] <john__> almoxarife, well, it bothers me just to reinstall because of this. :D
[10:56] <john__> maybe there is an good text editor alternative to gedit, with tabs :)
[10:56] <almoxarife> john__: btw, i thought there was a way to keep zeitgeist from starting rather than removing?
[10:57] <MadsRC> john__, I'd recommend Sublime Text 2
[10:57] <Dandylion> hi all, I have a laptop with 2 physical disks, and the main Ubuntu OS is on sdb. I want to replace sda with another physical disk. Can I expect to boot normally afterwards if not preparing something beforehand?
[10:58] <Dandylion> (boot as usual into the Ubuntu on sdb, I mean)
[10:58] <john__> almoxarife, yes I saw that too, but to late
[10:58] <llutz> Dandylion: sda holds the MBR, so you will have to reqrite that after changing the disks
[10:58] <Dandylion> or might sda/sdb change or something?
[10:58] <llutz> rewrite
[10:59] <Dandylion> llutz: ok, can I do that with/from ubuntu?
[10:59] <almoxarife> john__: well, i do happen to have a vm of ubuntu -32, it would be interesting to try to undo what you have there, if you would like
[11:00] <llutz> Dandylion: yes, but you will need a live-cd/usb to boot into ubuntu once, when MBR/grub is missing
[11:00] <Dandylion> or can I boot into a live USB disk or DVD and fix it from there afterwards?
[11:00] <john__> almoxarife, great if you have the time
[11:00] <almoxarife> john__: but you d/l the gedit?
[11:00] <llutz> Dandylion: you should be able to rewrite grub from live-cd
[11:00] <Dandylion> llutz: yes, I have a live usb stick
[11:00] <john__> almoxarife, what do you mean?
[11:01] <almoxarife> john__: you forced the install via apt-get ?
[11:01] <john__> almoxarife, downloaded here http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/amd64/gedit/download
[11:01] <Dandylion> ok, which terms should I google for to find documentation on how to do that?
[11:01] <llutz> Dandylion: similar to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:01] <john__> almoxarife,  and then forced, dpkg --force-all -i gedit_3.6.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[11:02] <Dandylion> llutz: ah, great, thanks! :-)
[11:02] <john__> almoxarife, but before that deinstalled all gedit and all zeitgeist related
[11:02] <almoxarife> john__: give me a sec. need to get uby-sacrificial lamb up
[11:03] <john__> almoxarife, I tried 2 hour to remove it, irc last hope :D
[11:04] <MaxFrames> hello. I've installed Ubuntu with Wubi.  I have a bluetooth Logitech keyboard+mouse combo. When I boot Ubuntu, the keyboard does not work. If I logon with the onscreen keyboard, I find that it's "disconnected"
[11:04] <Guest38396> Hey guys, I have a quick question. How do I set my bootloader so that it does not display OS choices in a dualboot environment?
[11:04] <Guest38396> Or would only do so by holding shift or some key.
[11:05] <MaxFrames> if I try to set it to connected, it does not happen. I have to remove the device and detect it again. that is every time I boot Ubuntu
[11:05] <MaxFrames> in windows it works fine
[11:06] <almoxarife> john__: i need to create the error first,
[11:09] <Basomis> Hi. Can anyone help me how to solve this error: "mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0"?
[11:09] <MaxFrames> insert a medium on /dev/sr0 :P
[11:09] <virtual-almoxari> john__, the link pls
[11:10] <Basomis> MaxFrames: i did that
[11:11] <MaxFrames> Basomis: are you sure the disc is readable?
[11:11] <MaxFrames> tried another?
[11:11] <Basomis> yes, tried even empty ones
[11:12] <virt-almoxarife> john__, the link pls
[11:12] <doroty911> i
[11:13] <doroty911> hi
[11:13] <john__> virt-almoxarife,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/amd64/gedit/download
[11:13] <doroty911> how to configure xchat to work with Tor
[11:13] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys why does this come up when trying to install qbzr The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:13] <Wiz_KeeD>  qbzr : Depends: python-qt4 but it is not going to be installed    E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[11:14] <john__> virt-almoxarife,  dpkg --force-all -i gedit_3.6.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[11:14] <MaxFrames> anyone for my bluetooth problem please?
[11:14] <doroty911> I keep getting errors
[11:14] <fares> heiii
[11:14] <qwebirc18706> hi i am having a networking issue - i can't get a wired connection
[11:14] <BlueEagle> doroty911: Unless you can specify the errors received it will be near impossible for us to help.
[11:14] <qwebirc18706> can anyone help out a beginner
[11:15] <psiryan_> Q: I just installed the pulse audio package but am not getting any audio; why?
[11:15] <qwebirc18706> fares: do you know what the default network connection page should look like? i haven't played with this server in a year and it looks wrong
[11:16] <Wiz_KeeD> help?
[11:16] <qwebirc18706> my only commands are auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:16] <qwebirc18706> but im not getting any wired connection
[11:17] <john__> qwebirc18706, maybe you try use fixed ips
[11:18] <qwebirc18706> ok - how do i do that?
[11:18] <qwebirc18706> and thanks john__
[11:18] <john__> qwebirc18706, I think it is really easy via the network manager
[11:18] <qwebirc18706> there isn't network manager on here because i dont have an internet connection :(
[11:19] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone know how to fix those broken packages?
[11:19] <d4rch0n> whos runk
[11:19] <Orb> I wish the ipad would not disconnect colliloquy after a few minutes.
[11:20] <d4rch0n> did i not join drunk channel
[11:20] <d4rch0n> apparently not\
[11:20] <Npc> did you not not join or did you not join
[11:20] <Orb> I mean it would be nice I'm saying.
[11:20] <d4rch0n> there is no one there
[11:20] <d4rch0n> that sucks
[11:21] <Npc> doesn't it
[11:21] <d4rch0n> where ius a good drunk irc
[11:21] <d4rch0n> do irc's get tdrunk
[11:21] <theraven> when i set single click to open directory in nautilus, i still have to dubble click to open it?
[11:21] <john__> virt-almoxarife, you got the error?
[11:21] <d4rch0n> single click to open directory freaks me out
[11:21] <d4rch0n> that is unnatural
[11:21] <d4rch0n> inhumane
[11:22] <virt-almoxarife> john__, i download a dir via wget, i dont have a browser, whats the full address to the file?
[11:23] <john__> virt-almoxarife, http://ubuntu.cs.nctu.edu.tw/ubuntu//pool/main/g/gedit/gedit_3.6.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:23] <psiryan_> Is there something I need to configure for audio support in E17?
[11:24] <theraven> so my question is why doesnt it apply when i make that setting to open directory with single click?
[11:24] <virt-almoxarife> john__, thats a 32bit deb
[11:24] <alfameq> heath: hey
[11:24] <john__> virt-almoxarife, you are right, 1 sec
[11:24] <d4rch0n> ls -al
[11:24] <john__> virt-almoxarife, http://ubuntu.pesat.net.id/archive//pool/main/g/gedit/gedit_3.6.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[11:25] <d4rch0n> pj ficl ypoui
[11:25] <d4rch0n> tf
[11:25] <d4rch0n> chweeers
[11:25] <sdfsdfsafdsdf> a
[11:26] <d4rch0n> whatsup wtih all mu ubuntu folk tonight
[11:26] <BlueEagle> !ot
[11:27] <d4rch0n> .join #ubutnu0offtopic
[11:28] <d4rch0n> hello
[11:29] <psiryan_> So, I just installed the pulseaudio package from synaptic but I still have no sounds. Help please.
[11:29] <diverdude_> is grub v. 1.98 version 1 or 2 of grub?
[11:30] <virt-almoxarife> john__, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1420765/
[11:30] <virt-almoxarife> john__, thats the damage done
[11:30] <john__> virt-almoxarife,  nice
[11:32] <d4rch0n> i think you have dependency problems
[11:32] <d4rch0n> but i may be a luttle fuck up
[11:32] <d4rch0n> but it says python
[11:32] <d4rch0n> 2.7
[11:33] <BlueEagle> !language > d4rch0n
[11:33] <john__> virt-almoxarife, maybe an idea, to install all dependencies?
[11:33] <virt-almoxarife> john__, noooooooooooooo, there is enough installed
[11:34] <john__> virt-almoxarife, ok, I tried also already with all installed...
[11:41] <bartzy> Hi
[11:41] <bartzy> How do I open docx documents with Abiword ?
[11:41] <bartzy> It doesn't work
[11:43] <kanliot> bartzy, there's an online converter if you google it
[11:44] <bartzy> kanliot: No way to open it through abiword ?
[11:45] <BlueEagle> bartzy: Abiword does not have filters for loading docx afaik.
[11:47] <Zuser> Why must it be so hard to find the Ubuntu netinstall ISO?
[11:48] <Zuser> Actual question: where can I find the ubuntu netinstall iso?
[11:48] <Zuser> !netinstall
[11:48] <Zuser> doesn't really help :(
[11:49] <Zuser> no I think I found it :)
[11:50] <Zuser> They really should put a link to that ISO on the main download page
[11:51] <lancecoder> hello all. how install ati openGL on integrated video hd 4200 ? sorry for my broken english
[11:52] <kanliot> lancecoder, use 12.04
[11:52] <virt-almoxarife> john__, just realized something, i never had gedit installed to begin with, this is xfce, was gedit already installed on yours?
[11:52] <john__> virt-almoxarife, I have also xfce
[11:52] <john__> virt-almoxarife, I think it was already installed
[11:52] <lancecoder>  kanliot: i have 12.10
[11:53] <kanliot> lancecoder, i know
[11:53] <virt-almoxarife> john__, i removed gedit from /usr/bin
[11:53] <lancecoder> kanliot:  on 12.10 not really?
[11:53] <virt-almoxarife> john__, i dont have gedit showing in /var/cache/apt
[11:54] <lancecoder> i install and broken work table, all icons hiddens
[11:54] <john__> virt-almoxarife, hmm
[11:54] <john__> virt-almoxarife, just rm?
[11:54] <john__> virt-almoxarife, what about dkpg?
[11:54] <virt-almoxarife> john__, rm yeah
[11:55] <john__> virt-almoxarife, well I renamed it... does not help
[11:55] <virt-almoxarife> john__, dpkg audit sees same error
[11:55] <john__> virt-almoxarife, ok well...
[11:56] <virt-almoxarife> john__, the error is now in 'file associations' and dpkg database, synaptic does not see it
[11:56] <john__> virt-almoxarife, yes, synaptic does not show any files related to  that 64bit version here too
[11:57] <virt-almoxarife> john__, the editor for xfce is ?? leafpad?
[11:57] <winb> Any icc (chess) players here? What program do you use to connect to chessclub.com?
[11:57] <virt-almoxarife> john__, yeah, leafpad
[11:57] <Farkie> Hey, got a question but I think it's sort of OVH specific... How can I add a second ethernet adapter with a seperate static IP to a ESXI VPS? The "hardware" is there, but it won't route any traffic over it. I have the correct ethernet adapter setup using the correct network card. It's just config that's wrong, I believe
[11:59] <Farkie> I'm not used to the whole debian networking, i'm a RH guy :D
[11:59] <john__> virt-almoxarife, leafepad does not have tabs :x
[12:00] <virt-almoxarife> john__, tried scite?
[12:00] <john__> virt-almoxarife, yeah I looked already into it... but more as a last resort, I am happy with gedit
[12:01] <banda> i'm trying to upgrade (sudo apt-get upgrade) and 14 packages are being held back: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1420806/, i'm wondering why with apt they're being held back
[12:01] <shallwe> hi guys, i have intel i5 with hd 3000 using hdmi cable, but no sound
[12:01] <shallwe> some help please?
[12:01] <shallwe> ubuntu 12.10
[12:01] <lancecoder>  shallwe: also
[12:02] <qqqtab> Hi ubuntu wants to suspend to S1 instead of S3 - how can I fix this ?
[12:02] <Farkie> http://pastebin.com/fNjnfGyd
[12:02] <banda> though with the gui update manager they're ready to install
[12:02] <andi3> hi, how to restart graphics?, my pc sometimes boot to text console.
[12:02] <banda> startx
[12:03] <qqqtab> banda:  service lightdm restart
[12:03] <andi3> banda: I tried, I get a background image but nothing more after calling startx
[12:03] <qqqtab> can anyone help me with my suspend problem ? Or give me ideas ?
[12:04] <MadsRC> Is it possible to find out what processes keeps my disks from spinning down?
[12:04] <andi3> qqqtab: it works, many thanks!
[12:04] <qqqtab> MadsRC: yes - man lsof
[12:04] <rnix> hi #ubuntu. any idea whether i can show / hide onboard keyboard from a python script using some python bindings rather than using popen?
[12:04] <Abhijit> qqqtab, whats the issue
[12:04] <MadsRC> qqqtab, does that also show if a daemon is using a disk?
[12:05] <andi3> qqqtab: shold I report bug? I have dmesg and Xorg log
[12:05] <john__> virt-almoxarife, so you are out of ideas too?
[12:05] <andi3> looks like some sort of timing is going on, my setup is I5 with ssd.
[12:06] <qqqtab> Abhijit: when trying to suspend to ram eg echo mem > /sys/power/state .... from the logs I see it going to S1 instead of S3 and therefore all the fans are still spinning
[12:06] <Abhijit> oh that suspend. no idea qqqtab
[12:07] <rnix> ah, cat /usr/bin/onboard -> already a python script, sry for the noise
[12:07] <virt-almoxarife> john__, tried installing gedit via apt-get, crashed
[12:07] <qqqtab> Abhijit: no worries thanks for trying :) Anyone else ?
[12:08] <qqqtab> MadsRC: If you're too lazy to do that install iotop
[12:08] <MadsRC> qqqtab, well, I'm sifting through lsof right now :P
[12:09] <qqqtab> GHmmmmmmm why is it that when I come here asking for help I end up helping others - D'Oh
[12:09] <qqqtab> MadsRC: Good man ! :)
[12:10] <qqqtab> ok then ... how do I find out what power states are supported by my kernel ?
[12:11] <qqqtab> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnderstandingSuspend is not helping me :/
[12:11] <troop> hi, when i try to boot from dvd my monitor goes into power saving mode, i also tried with fedora 17 dvd and was same. i have nvidia9600gt, gigabyte ep35 s3l board and lg flatron w2486l monitor. i was using 10.10 before and it was booting without any flags. whats now?
[12:12] <MadsRC> qqqtab, lsof doesn't  show either the mount point /mnt/disk01 or the disk (/dev/sdc) - Got any other idea?
[12:12] <vitimiti> (·.·)/
[12:12] <kanliot> troop i had that problem
[12:12] <qqqtab> MadsRC: I have scripts .... brb let me fetch ;)
[12:13] <troop> kanliot its weird. it runs sometime and doesnt run sometime.
[12:13] <MadsRC> Thanks qqqtab :) - Menawhile, I'm trying iotop
[12:14] <kanliot> qqqtab, why don't you just do trial and error see what works
[12:14] <qqqtab> MadsRC: yeah iotop will give you the goods but it's always good to know more ... ps do you understand this if [ "$(/sbin/hdparm -C /dev/$HD | grep "drive state" | cut -d: -f2 | awk '{ pri nt $1}')" = "standby" ]
[12:14] <mee_> hello, in config panel, software source is not loading anymore, it just ask me to send a bug report,  is there a way ton run that interface in command line ? (and see whats going on ?)
[12:14] <LeMike> hello. can i somehow switch the windows by console or so? wine does not give a symbol in the shell nor is accessable via alt+tab
[12:15] <john__> virt-almoxarife, I think I will take geany
[12:15] <MadsRC> qqqtab, that will output if something if the drive is in stnadby
[12:16] <qqqtab> MadsRC: Bingo hdparm -C /dev/sd[a-f] will tell you
[12:16] <qqqtab> Someone help this linux noob suspend to ram pleeeeeeeease
[12:16] <lancecoder> how place pidgin icon to panel (default top in gnome)
[12:17] <MadsRC> qqqtab, Already made up a script that uses that command to check if drive state is active or standby, and then mail me the result every 15 minutes (Used it through the night to check if it wouldspin down in the night)
[12:18] <qqqtab> MadsRC: I like :) I have one too logging to /var/log is iotop helping you much ?
[12:18] <BuPy7> Hello!
[12:18] <qqqtab> MadsRC: iotop -oPa
[12:18] <john__> virt-almoxarife, thanks for trying. I checked geany editor and it feels even better than gedit ;)
[12:18] <virt-almoxarife> john__, cool, everything that is suppose to force purge does not
[12:18] <MadsRC> Mine logs to /var/log too :) Want a sample? - iotop o-Pa doesn't tell me anything :(
[12:19] <darkbyte> .join #archlinux
[12:19]  * darkbyte fails
[12:20] <qqqtab> MadsRC: :) Hmmmm  iotop -oPa should work..... ps are you sure that your drives are set up for suspend ?
[12:20] <BuPy7> You are gavno!
[12:20] <lancecoder> BuPy7: herase
[12:20] <BuPy7> Chuvak!
[12:20] <lancecoder> )
[12:21] <qqqtab> MadsRC: /sbin/hdparm -S 12 /dev/disk/by-id/ata.... etc etc /sbin/hdparm -S 180 etc etc
[12:21] <BuPy7> I here not one?
[12:21] <MadsRC> qqqtab, Yes, it worked a couple of days ago, then i set up deluge as a daemon telling it to download to that drive, and now it won't spin down anymore... I then tried to stop deluge-daemon but that still didn't allow me to spin it down... (I'm not 100% sure it's the deluge-daemon that is the problem)
[12:22] <Ankit> I need help with installation
[12:22] <MadsRC> qqqtab, I tried hdparm -S 1 /dev/disk before, didn't spin it down :( But lemme try again :)
[12:22] <Ankit>  I dont know how to the output of installation, this is my first time installing ubuntu. Searched the help database , the method did not work. Made USB, Installed, set nomodset as screen was going blank during installation, net connected, installed with updates, installation finishes, system reboots, I hear the 3 drum sound, screen goes blank, I hold the power button for reboot, there is a flash of ubuntu desktop before the system swit
[12:23] <qqqtab> MadsRC: deluge could be using the drive dude. I use torrentflux .... black hole is on the system drive and downloads on the one that needs to sleep. Any active torrent on that drive and it will never sleep so I schedule torrents off during daylight hours
[12:23] <BuPy7> Gop-Stop, we come from the corner!
[12:24] <Ankit> anyone ?
[12:24] <LeMike> are there some issues with wine since the last ubuntu update these days? my windows no longer appear
[12:24] <Ankit>  I dont know how to the output of installation, this is my first time installing ubuntu. Searched the help database , the method did not work. Made USB, Installed, set nomodset as screen was going blank during installation, net connected, installed with updates, installation finishes, system reboots, I hear the 3 drum sound, screen goes blank, I hold the power button for reboot, there is a flash of ubuntu desktop before the system swit
[12:24] <ion__> hello guys
[12:25] <ion__> i am having Root Access problem in ubuntu 12.04
[12:25] <BuPy7> Get Out, pidar!
[12:25] <almoxarife> Ankit: can you reboot again and when you have given it some time, hit control-alt-backspace twice
[12:25] <darkbyte> ion__, Elaborate.
[12:25] <MadsRC> qqqtab, the problem is that deluge isn't installed to the drive... Just points to it for downloading... And the download doesn't work because I'm getting permission errors... That's why i don't think it's deluge
[12:26] <Ankit> thanks almoxarife , lemme try this
[12:26] <LeMike> Ankit press ctrl+alt+F7 for the current screen, press crtl+alt+f4 for another one. login with your credentials and run "unity"
[12:26] <BuPy7> Here have Russians?
[12:26] <lancecoder> i'm
[12:27] <almoxarife> !ru
[12:27] <BuPy7> Zaebis'!
[12:27] <Raion> Anyone there...?
[12:27] <ion__> Hello,
[12:27] <ion__> I want to simulate the openFlow network (working on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS)  and for that i started working as per given in this link(http://www.openflow.org/wk/index.php/Ubuntu_Install), up to "Installation of Regression Suite" is OK.
[12:27] <ion__> Problem is verifying the installation, when i tried to run command "source ~/env_vars" as root is shows me Error "bash: /root/env_vars: No such file or directory". though i have copied that file in the root directory.
[12:27] <ion__> Any suggestion??
[12:27] <FloodBot1> ion__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <ion__> sorry for flooding
[12:28] <Ankit> Not working
[12:29] <Ankit> the screen is dead blank
[12:29] <almoxarife> ion__: that is not root, tilde is your home dir
[12:29] <ion__> so wat to do to access the root env_vars?
[12:29] <Ankit> This is just after I installed ubuntu
[12:29] <Ankit> should i install 12.04?
[12:29] <qqqtab> MadsRC: exactly having a pointer is more than enough to keep a filehandle open. I have no experience with deluge but I'm sure some process is holding it.... if  lsof | grep 'disk1/yourpath' returns nothing then you have not got disk suspend setup properly ...do a hdparm -I and pastie
[12:30] <almoxarife> Ankit: if you hit cntrl-alt-f1 , takes you to a terminal?
[12:30] <Ankit> no, screen is blank
[12:30] <Ankit> cant see any menu
[12:30] <tagabag> how to make ubuntu pointer into the middle finger flipping me off while hovering a link?
[12:30] <lancecoder> Ankit: ctrl+alt+t
[12:30] <Ankit> npoe
[12:31] <almoxarife> Ankit: re-install
[12:31] <ion__> Ankit: any linux flavour have totally 7 terminals....pres ctrl+alt+f1,f2,f3...
[12:31] <qqqtab> Ankit: press return
[12:31] <LeMike> again Ankit: ctrl+alt+f1 does NOT take you to a black screen where you can type?
[12:31] <Ankit> the complete screen is blank, like dead
[12:31] <ion__> Ankit: out of them one is for GUI interface
[12:31] <Ankit> when i hold the power button to reboot
[12:31] <Ankit> the screen flashes for a sec
[12:32] <qqqtab> ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work for me either..... then again I am running windows 8 LOL
[12:32] <tagabag> whats the image file for finger pointer
[12:32] <MadsRC> qqqtab, http://pastebin.com/SJ0wv7LE
[12:33] <almoxarife> Ankit: its too early in the game to trouble shoot a dead system if you can manage to get a good install, are you hardwired to the internet?
[12:34] <diverdude_> Is this a correct way ofd installing grub? 1. create a 20MiB partition. 2. tell this partition it has type grub. 3. use grub-install to install grub.
[12:35] <ion__> almoxarife: I have copied env_vars to the root , then i loged in to root on terminal and then i wrote "source ~/env_vars", but i shows No such file or directory
[12:35] <ion__> so whats the solution for this
[12:35] <ion__> ?
[12:36] <almoxarife> source (~)/env_vars <--- that is your home dir, (~)=/home , ion__...
[12:37] <LeMike> Ankit: also try 12.04, perhaps you argue with new nvidia issues in 12.10
[12:38] <ion__> almoxarife: then whats the command to copy "env_vars" to the root from home directory?
[12:39] <LeMike> why copy? no link needed or allowed? ;)
[12:39] <almoxarife> source (~)/env_vars <--- that is your home dir, (~)=/home , ion__..., seems to me that if you are at root then it would be 'source /root/env_vars'
[12:39] <qqqtab> MadsRC: looking at my script I've also got a hdparm -y /dev/sdb
[12:40] <MadsRC> qqqtab, doing that works, forces the drive into standby
[12:41] <winb> !chat
[12:41] <almoxarife> ion__: what filemanager do you use?
[12:41] <ion__> almoxarife:ion@ion-Studio-1450:~$ su
[12:41] <ion__> Password:
[12:41] <ion__> root@ion-Studio-1450:/home/ion# source ~/env_vars
[12:41] <ion__> bash: /root/env_vars: No such file or directory
[12:41] <ion__> root@ion-Studio-1450:/home/ion#
[12:41] <FloodBot1> ion__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:41] <qqqtab> MadsRC: care to help me with me suspend problem then ? LOL
[12:41] <MadsRC> qqqtab, but wierd thing is, one of the drives, the one I pasted, is a drive used only for parity... and is ONLY accessed 2 times a day... So should spindown with no problem...
[12:42] <peterrus> you might have more succes in ubuntu-server with these questions
[12:42] <peterrus> as raid is rarely used on a desktop
[12:42] <almoxarife> ion__: what filemanager do you use?
[12:42] <qqqtab> MadsRC: You're playing with fire if you're doing with an array :p
[12:43] <interali0s> Has anyone managed to configure chrome and Tor in Ubuntu?
[12:43] <ion__> almoxrife:  i used "cp <openflow-dir>/regress/scripts/env_vars  ." this command
[12:43] <MadsRC> qqqtab, No array :) Nothing RAID or anything, using snapRAID :) - Guess I better email rubylaser about it... - What is the problem with suspend?
[12:43] <ion__> almoxrife: what does thsi "." means here
[12:43] <ion__> ?
[12:44] <guest-76qmeh> I'm having a issue after installing latest nvidia driver (310.19) The driver seems to be working just fine, but I cannot login on my main account, it bounces back to lightdm after hitting log in
[12:44] <almoxarife> ion__: what filemanager do you use?
[12:44] <ion__> i didnt use any filemanager..
[12:44] <almoxarife> ion__: what filemanager do you use?
[12:45] <interali0s> quit
[12:45] <almoxarife> ion__: are you on a server?
[12:45] <ion__> yes
[12:46] <ion__> i have midnight commander installed on my system
[12:46] <qqqtab> MadsRC: It's probably an issue where Ubuntu thinks it can only suspend to disk instead of memory... It's doing my head in ....I'll get there in the end
[12:46] <ion__> R u able to get my messages?
[12:46] <almoxarife> ion__: doesnt MC copy paste? as root?
[12:46] <yeats> ion__: would is the output of 'ls ~/env_vars'?
[12:46] <guest-76qmeh> Is /etc/X11/xorg.conf loaded on the boot? Do I have to  reboot after changing it?
[12:47] <MadsRC> qqqtab, Oh yeah, Ubuntu always had problems with suspend :S Actually never solved it myself, so never used it
[12:47] <ion__> root@ion-Studio-1450:/home/ion# ls
[12:47] <ion__> Desktop    Downloads  examples.desktop  openflow  Programs  Templates
[12:47] <ion__> Documents  env_vars   Music             Pictures  Public    Videos
[12:47] <ion__> root@ion-Studio-1450:/home/ion#
[12:47] <FloodBot1> ion__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:47] <mns> how do I find out how fast the fan on the laptop is going, and why ?  and how can I control that ?
[12:47] <yeats> !paste | ion__
[12:48] <qqqtab> MadsRC: all the best ... cya later.... I'm out of here
[12:49] <yeats> ion__: that's not the same thing as 'ls ~/env_vars' - looks like you're logged in as root, so ~/ would be /root
[12:49] <ion__> R u able to read my messgae Almoxarife
[12:50] <almoxarife> ion__: i have no clue what you are doing, neither do you it seems and i cant help you
[12:50] <dav> Hi, i upgraded to quantal and then removed all the packages from ubuntu-desktop that aren't on xubuntu-desktop. now lightdm won't start on boot
[12:50] <dav> I tried sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -g lightdm-gtk-greeter and /etc/X11/default-display-manager contains /usr/sbin/lightdm
[12:50] <dav> I reinstalled/reconfigured lightdm, nothing seems to do it. Any ideas?
[12:51] <yeats> ion__: what is the output of 'whoami'?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[12:51] <ion__> hmmmm.....thanks almoxarife ....let me try i myself...thank a lot.
[12:51] <almoxarife> dav: did you re-install lightdm yet?
[12:52] <dav> almoxarife: yes: "I reinstalled/reconfigured lightdm, nothing seems to do it"
[12:52] <Ankit> ankit
[12:52] <Ankit> Ankit
[12:53] <almoxarife> dav: what were you wanting to install as a desktop?
[12:53] <mns> dav why not try re-instaling xubuntu-desktop ?  maybe there is something there that you've removed which it needs ?
[12:53] <Pelo> morning folks
[12:53] <almoxarife> dav: what mns... said
[12:54] <Ankit> almoxarife , thanks...downloaded 12.04 to see if it works .... installing now, I am connected via WiFi, also, how do I reply to you here ? simply type your name here and you will get the beep ?
[12:54] <almoxarife> Ankit: yeap :)
[12:54] <almoxarife> Ankit: thnks for what?
[12:54] <Ankit> so my previous post had that beep ?
[12:55] <Pelo> yesterday I installed ubuntu 12.04 on my brother's computer , runing Gnome classic mode, and I was surprised to see he has a menu for wine , I don'T have this on mine , but I'm working from a heavily personalised very old original install, how would I get that menu ? uninstalling and reinstalling wine didn'T do it
[12:55] <Ankit> well, for hearing me out.. and reinstalling now
[12:55] <almoxarife> Ankit: only if my nick is included :)
[12:55] <dav> mns / almoxarife: odd.. thought apt-get install xubuntu-desktop was happy. now it's installing packages. let's see.. thanks!
[12:55] <almoxarife> beep
[12:55] <Ankit> so i'll have to type it everytime .. no keyboard shortcuts ?
[12:55] <dav> wait a second.. why is xubuntu-desktop installing unity?!
[12:56] <almoxarife> dav: there you go, you over purged
[12:56] <Pelo> Ankit, first few letters and then tab
[12:56] <lancecoder> stop this haos
[12:56] <Ankit> almoxarife: lala ... thanks !
[12:56] <Ankit> almoxarife: lemme update you after a while
[12:57] <almoxarife> Ankit: almo<tab> :)\
[12:57] <almoxarife> unity on xfce?
[12:58] <dav> david(pts/1)@crusher:~$ sudo apt-get -s install xubuntu-desktop | grep ^Inst.*unity' ('
[12:58] <dav> Inst unity (6.10.0-0ubuntu2 Ubuntu:12.10/quantal-updates [i386])
[12:58] <dav> how do you guys explain that?
[12:59] <dav> I have another machine which has xubuntu-desktop but doesn't have unity..
[12:59] <almoxarife> dav: its a miracle
[12:59] <FalconX> Can anyone help me with making shared WINEPREFIX on Ubuntu ?
[12:59] <dav> --no-install-recommends seems to do it..
[12:59] <Paul_> is it possible to have a file browser and text editor launch with root access without having to use the terminal so that i can for example go into every single directory and have root access and be able to right click on any file and edit it
[13:00] <almoxarife> Paul_: alt-f2 , type , gksu <somebrowser>
[13:01] <Ankit> almoxarife: I think there is some issue with my displayt
[13:01] <ion__> paul_ : install main menu <apt-get install mainmenu> if you want everytime to launch it with root access
[13:01] <Ankit> almoxarife: inserted the fresh ubuntu 12.04 bootable pen drive
[13:01] <blami> hi I am hitting weird problem with lightdm
[13:01] <Paul_> thanks
[13:01] <dav> blami: you too ? :)
[13:02] <ion__> and edit the properties ..and write "gksudo" in command leaving the written text as it is
[13:02] <Ankit> almoxarife: chose install unbuntu on this hard disk, and the things started
[13:02] <blami> sometimes system boots I see cursor for a while and then it reverts back to console, I have to restart the service 3-4 times to login
[13:02] <Ankit> almoxarife: then screen goes dead
[13:03] <blami> dav: is it known bug?
[13:03] <almoxarife> Ankit: during install?
[13:03] <Ankit> yes
[13:03] <Ankit> almoxarife: yes
[13:03] <ion__> Ankit : partitioning the HDD?
[13:04] <lancecoder> advise player where sound control with mouse wheel
[13:04] <Ankit> almoxarife: for 12.10 i used nomodset and atleat it installed ... then after first boot ... all goes blank
[13:04] <lancecoder> vlc not work (((
[13:04] <ion__> Ankit : r u doing this in "text mode installation" or  "GUI installation".
[13:04] <Ankit> almoxarife: yes ... it was windows earlier, C: and D:
[13:04] <Ankit> ion__: gui
[13:04] <dav> blami: not sure.. the problem I have is different.
[13:04] <blami> dav: ah
[13:05] <blami> dav: anyway i have a little bit weird installation so maybe I caused this one
[13:05] <dav> blami: I fixed mine by reinstalling the pkg :) you might want to try..
[13:05] <blami> dav: good idea
[13:06] <ion__> ankit : do one thing...empty one partition , i mean if you have windows on C : then empty the D: partition, boot the CD and make partition out of the D: drive
[13:07] <Ankit> ion__:  how do i do that, a headstart ?
[13:08] <almoxarife> Ankit: do you have hardwire internet?
[13:08] <ion__> Start the GUI installation...when then Partition dialouge appear let me know
[13:08] <Ankit> almoxarife: wifi
[13:08] <ion__> let the C: parttion as it is
[13:09] <ion__> and delete the D: partition so that it show the "freespace " the size of D: partion
[13:11] <ion__> are you able yo get my message ..:Ankit ?
[13:11] <almoxarife> Ankit: you already have the iso, so all you need is wubi exe for a wubi install, using that setup you might figure out what the issues are that are hammering your install,
[13:12] <Ankit> almoxarife: too late for that ... windows is gone now
[13:12] <almoxarife> Ankit: ohh
[13:12] <Ankit> ion__: yes... the 12.04 setup doesnot have nomodset option ... still blank screen
[13:13] <almoxarife> Ankit: can you get yourself to a wired internet connection? try the mini.iso install, its actually more complete
[13:13] <Ankit> ion__: should i remove the hdd and format it using my desktop
[13:13] <ion__> ok ok
[13:13] <Ankit> mini.iso ?
[13:13] <ion__> so do one thing...
[13:13] <Ankit> almoxarife: mini.iso ?
[13:14] <ion__> delete all the partiton
[13:14] <Ankit> almoxarife: I can do that ... what needs to be done ?
[13:14] <almoxarife> Ankit: yes, its a network install
[13:14] <tozen> Ankit: I can suggest you alternate version to try...
[13:14] <almoxarife> Ankit: same as what you have done, mini.iso to a stick and install
[13:15] <ion__> Ankit : whats your pc configuration
[13:15] <ion__> ?
[13:15] <Ankit> ion__:  intel core 2 duo t6600 , 3 gb ram, 320 hdd
[13:16] <ion__> ok...jus jus delete all the partation..
[13:16] <ion__> and then create new partition
[13:16] <almoxarife> Ankit: and if you do decide on the mini.iso install, do yourself a favor, when the option to create a /home partion comes up, do so
[13:16] <jeremiah_> hello
[13:17] <ion__> e
[13:17] <ion__> \home parttion of larger size
[13:17] <ion__> swap parttion size double your ram sizre
[13:17] <enapupe> Hi, I just installed the latest nvidia (current-updates 310.19) and now I can't login to my account.. it seems that lightdm fails to start
[13:17] <almoxarife>  /home!
[13:18] <ion__> and a one root mount point "/"
[13:18] <jeremiah_> I can't update ubuntu 12.04, and i need help!
[13:18] <ion__> jus make partition in this way and proceed with install...
[13:19] <jeremiah_> Every time i  try to update i get this error:
[13:19] <jeremiah_> The installation could have failed because of an error in the corresponding software package or it was cancelled in an unfriendly way. You have to repair this before you can install or remove any further software.
[13:19] <tozen> jeremiah_: what for do you need to update stable version?
[13:19] <jeremiah_> tozen,  ?
[13:20] <tozen> jeremiah_: r u trying to get 12.10?
[13:21] <jeremiah_> tozen,  no, i am just doing the normal updates
[13:21] <tozen> ok
[13:21] <almoxarife> jeremiah_: what command did you run to get that error?
[13:21] <jeremiah_> i didn't use command prompts
[13:21] <jeremiah_> i just clicked on the install updates
[13:21] <jeremiah_> and it gave me that error
[13:22] <jeremiah_> the details were E:Method  has died unexpectedly!, E:Sub-process  returned an error code (100), E:Method /usr/lib/apt/methods/ did not start correctly
[13:22] <tozen> jeremiah_: try terminal command sudo apt-get update
[13:23] <ion__> hey ankit r u der
[13:23] <ion__> ?
[13:23] <Ankit> almoxarife: i have reformatted the disk using my desktop, trying a fresh install
[13:23] <Ankit> ion__: i have reformatted the disk using my desktop, trying a fresh install
[13:23] <ion__> hmmm..
[13:23] <Ankit> almoxarife: what do you suggest 1210 or 12.04 ?
[13:23] <almoxarife> Ankit: how is a reformat going to make a diff?
[13:23] <jeremiah_> tozen,  http://pastebin.com/iT6DCp77
[13:23] <ion__> 12.04
[13:24] <ion__> it has long term support
[13:24] <almoxarife> Ankit: 12.04
[13:24] <Ankit> almoxarife: windows partition , so i thought
[13:24] <almoxarife> Ankit: you said you tossed win
[13:25] <Ankit> almoxarife: yes but doing it the hard way.. i tossed it when ubuntu was installing...
[13:25] <almoxarife> jeremiah_: the repos are not responding
[13:25] <ion__> you can have gone for dual boot
[13:25] <jeremiah_> almoxarife,  what does that mean?
[13:26] <Ankit> almoxarife: so i can upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04 ... and hopefully the system would have updated so that i dont get the blank screen ?
[13:26] <ion__> jermiah: which version of ubuntu ur using?
[13:26] <jeremiah_> 12.04
[13:26] <almoxarife> jeremiah_: pick another server, try 'main' , the 'ca' servers are dead
[13:26] <jeremiah_> how do i do that?
[13:26] <almoxarife> jeremiah_: via synaptic?
[13:27] <tozen> jeremiah_: u nee to change servers
[13:27] <jeremiah_> on ubuntu forums, someone told me they are dead to, just never told me how
[13:27] <ion__> do as almoxarife say...jeremiah
[13:27] <tozen> jeremiah_: Update Manager settings
[13:27] <jeremiah_> so i go to synaptic, then what?
[13:27] <almoxarife> Ankit: yes, you can update, 12.04 is nice and stable now
[13:28] <brady2600> when i start up , i use ubuntu 12.10 and Gnome 3.6 , i see the default ubuntu desktop picture, before it loads my desktop pic.. is there some way to change that so i just see a plain black as my system loads?
[13:28] <ion__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository : jermiah
[13:28] <jeremiah_> i tried updating in synaptic, this is the error:
[13:28] <jeremiah_> E: Method  has died unexpectedly!
[13:28] <jeremiah_> E: Sub-process  returned an error code (100)
[13:28] <jeremiah_> E: Method /usr/lib/apt/methods/ did not start correctly
[13:28] <jeremiah_> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[13:28] <Ankit> almoxarife: ok, i'm on the boot screen .. it says : run ubuntu from this usb ... install .. etc etc ... so I choose Install ubuntu on hard disk... right ?
[13:29] <ion__> hmm...carry on ankit
[13:29] <almoxarife> Ankit: are you using mini.iso?
[13:29] <jeremiah_> i can't install or update anything
[13:29] <kafson> hello world !
[13:29] <tozen> jeremiah_: did u tried to change server in synaptic?
[13:29] <kafson> no
[13:29] <jeremiah_> how???
[13:29] <Ankit> ion__:  loader screen up .... things processing ... and there the screen goes blank
[13:30] <kafson> wtf ?
[13:30] <kafson> fuck
[13:30] <almoxarife> Ankit: are you using mini.iso?
[13:30] <Ankit> almoxarife:  no .. 12.04
[13:30] <ion__> mini.iso means...700MB ISO
[13:30] <ion__> ?
[13:30] <tozen> jeremiah_:Settings - Repositories-Download from
[13:30] <almoxarife> kafson: watch your mouth, there are kiddies here
[13:30] <kafson> sorry
[13:30] <Ankit> ion__: almoxarife silly me ... yes
[13:30] <kafson> scuse me guys
[13:30] <Ankit> its a 700 mb installation
[13:31] <almoxarife> Ankit: no, mini.iso is like 20meg
[13:31] <jeremiah_> which one do i pick?
[13:31] <Ankit> almoxarife: then no ... where can i get that ?
[13:31] <almoxarife> jeremiah_: 'main'
[13:31] <ion__> 20meg??...didnt get you ?
[13:31] <tozen> jeremiah_: main
[13:31] <almoxarife> Ankit: from the web, alternate sources at ubuntu
[13:31] <kafson> #clear
[13:32] <kafson> :)
[13:32] <jeremiah_> i still get
[13:32] <Doxin> what's 12.04 called again?
[13:32] <jeremiah_> E: Method  has died unexpectedly!
[13:32] <jeremiah_> E: Sub-process  returned an error code (100)
[13:32] <jeremiah_> E: Method /usr/lib/apt/methods/ did not start correctly
[13:32] <jeremiah_> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[13:32] <almoxarife> Ankit: but you would need to be harwired to use mini.iso
[13:32] <jeremiah_> wait...
[13:32] <kafson> look your log in /var
[13:32] <Ankit> yes ... i am hardwired almoxarife
[13:32] <jeremiah_> it works!!!!
[13:32] <ion__> oohh....let me guess.....almoxarife is talking about online installation ?
[13:32] <Ankit> almoxarife: lemme find this mini thing
[13:32] <jeremiah_> Thanks guys!
[13:33] <almoxarife> Ankit: then use mini.iso for the love of god mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[13:33] <kafson> you're welcome jeremiah
[13:33] <tozen> jeremiah_: u r welcome
[13:33] <yeats> !mini | Ankit
[13:33] <jeremiah_> I appreciate your help!
[13:33] <almoxarife> ion__: its a network install , yes
[13:33] <jeremiah_> now, to update 200 mb of stuff....
[13:34] <almoxarife> jeremiah_: the 'ca' servers may comeup or not, canadians you know
[13:34] <jeremiah_> lol
[13:34] <ion__> hmmm....then how does it differ from the offline installation...infact it will  consume much time copared to offline installation
[13:34] <yeats> ion__: depends on your bandwidth
[13:34] <jeremiah_> maple syrup must have spilled on it...
[13:34] <ion__> Ankit : dude...jus check you internet speed first..
[13:35] <jeremiah_> anyway. thanks for the help!
[13:35] <jeremiah_> have a good day
[13:35] <almoxarife> ion__: mini.iso is a more complete install, its like the old 'alternate' disk install
[13:35] <Ankit> ion__: getting bout 1mbps
[13:36] <almoxarife> Ankit: thats good d/l, imagine the 56k days
[13:36] <ion__> Ankit : hmmmm....u can try
[13:36] <voldyman> guys i want to write a new lockscreen for ubuntu but cant find any prior project/reference . any help??
[13:36] <Ankit> almoxarife: hhaha
[13:36] <ion__> hahaha
[13:36] <Ankit> almoxarife: can i do this mini.iso on a pendrive ?
[13:37] <almoxarife> Ankit: yes
[13:37] <Ankit> almoxarife: using that universal usb installer
[13:37] <ion__> Prerequisite seems unavailable
[13:37] <Ankit> almoxarife: or just extract and copy all on a pen drive
[13:37] <almoxarife> Ankit: no, it needs to be put on the stick same as the other isos
[13:38] <Ankit> almoxarife: that tool on the ubuntu website doesnt recognize this mini.iso......so many roadblocks
[13:38] <almoxarife> Ankit: wait one
[13:39] <blami> voldyman: lockscreen as-in gnome-screensaver?
[13:39] <blami> voldyman: or lightdm greater?
[13:39] <almoxarife> Ankit: this site, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:39] <blami> voldyman: lightdm greeter i meant ...
[13:39] <voldyman> blami, as in, when we close the laptop lid and open it there is a lockscreen. different from the greeter
[13:40] <voldyman> i want to customize that lockscreen
[13:40] <almoxarife> Ankit: 32 or 64 bit?
[13:40] <Ankit> almoxarife: 32
[13:40] <blami> voldyman: that is afaik gnome-screensaver
[13:40] <almoxarife> Ankit: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[13:40] <Ankit> almoxarife: yes, i read this, it doesnt have a usb burn option
[13:41] <almoxarife> Ankit: that should start the d/l
[13:41] <blami> voldyman: i think it would be nice if that functionality could be handled in lightdm as well ... afaik fedora is doing similar thing with gdm
[13:41] <Ankit> almoxarife: already done
[13:41] <Ankit> almoxarife: now i need that on a pen drive
[13:41] <voldyman> blami, i tried reading its source code(gnome-screensaver). i am unable to find the mechanism by which its activated.
[13:41] <almoxarife> Ankit: or a cd/dvd
[13:42] <almoxarife> Ankit: same as the other iso's you created cd or usb from
[13:43] <voldyman> blami, there is so little documentation. its like gnome-screensaver can only do it.
[13:43] <almoxarife> voldyman: if anyone is avail at #ubuntu-dev , they would have the answers you are looking for perhaps
[13:43] <voldyman> i can activate that lockscreen using dbus org.gnome.screeensaver.lock() but dont know how to register myself to receive that call
[13:44] <voldyman> almoxarife, its empty :(
[13:44] <blami> voldyman: its #ubuntu-devel
[13:45] <blami> voldyman: you'd better to hack on top of gnome-screensaver or read its code
[13:45] <voldyman> thanks blami
[13:45] <blami> voldyman: its common practice in gnome that code is unreadable and poorly documented
[13:45] <almoxarife> oops sorry voldyman...
[13:45] <voldyman> almoxarife, np
[13:45] <blami> voldyman: having some api reference is luxury in gnome project ;)
[13:46] <voldyman> blami, i have been working with vala for sometime and you are 100% correct. documentation is "almost" nonexistent
[13:47] <voldyman> except valadoc of course
[13:49] <dajxd> any idea why an ubuntu live cd won't allow me to wipe the internal drive because the CD is mounted?
[13:50] <Ankit> almoxarife: desktop reboot
[13:50] <Ankit> almoxarife: burning disk now
[13:50] <tagabag> dajxd whatbuttons did you press
[13:51] <tagabag> did you use partitioner?
[13:51] <tagabag> on the cd
[13:51] <dajxd> i'm in gparted
[13:51] <tagabag> is it ubuntu cd??
[13:51] <dajxd> ubuntu studio, it's treating the cd like a partition on the hard drive?
[13:53] <dajxd> it's kind of a secondary problem, i'm trying to figure out why the installer crashes as soon as it begins and i'm trying to give it a clean slate.
[13:54] <Ankit> almoxarife: disc in place..hard wired .. booting
[13:54] <almoxarife> Ankit: cool
[13:55] <Ankit> almoxarife: unknown file system     grub resvue
[13:55] <Doxin> gdebi is giving me "Dependency is not satisfiable: zenity (>= 3.4.0-0ubuntu4)" whilst zenity _is_ installed. is there some way to make it ignore this deb?
[13:55] <Ankit> almoxarife: rescue
[13:55] <bekks> Doxin: So which version of zenity is installed currently?
[13:56] <Doxin> bekks: how do I find out?
[13:56] <almoxarife> Ankit: the iso was not made bootable or crashed while burning
[13:56] <bekks> Doxin: dpkg -l zenity
[13:57] <Doxin> bekks: 3.4.0-0ubuntu2
[13:57] <Doxin> bekks: so it's not the newest
[13:58] <bekks> Doxin: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[13:58] <Ankit> almoxarife: win7 instructions, right click ... burn disk , verify check ... anything else ?
[13:58] <disharmonic> hey
[13:58] <Doxin> bekks: it's 12.4 in a chroot.
[13:59] <disharmonic> Anyone know if purchases through Ubuntu Music get added to your 7digital account if you already have one?
[13:59] <almoxarife> Ankit: i guess, i dont have win, same process used to create bootcd like last ones you made?
[13:59] <nrdb> where would I ask about network routing troubles?
[13:59] <bekks> Doxin: Then get the latest updates :)
[13:59] <Doxin> bekks: I did.
[13:59] <Doxin> hence being confuddled
[14:00] <disharmonic> Ankit, never used the integrated windows burner, but yes that should be it
[14:00] <bekks> Doxin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/zenity
[14:00] <Ankit> almoxarife: yes, i followed the instuctions online ... last ones i made on a usb
[14:00] <almoxarife> Ankit: were you using usb prior or cd?
[14:00] <whatwhat> so
[14:01] <whatwhat> will my pc get hacked
[14:01] <Doxin> bekks: so what could cause me not getting that update?
[14:01] <whatwhat> if i don' upgrade
[14:01] <almoxarife> whatwhat: no
[14:01] <Ankit> almoxarife: usb ... but now CD
[14:02] <bekks> Doxin: Please pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:02] <Doxin> bekks: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/28297/ is upgrade
[14:02] <Doxin> lemme pastebin update
[14:02] <bekks> Doxin: First run the update THEN run the upgrade AFTER it.
[14:02] <almoxarife> Ankit: use the method that created a viable booting media the most times
[14:02] <Doxin> bekks: I did.
[14:02] <Doxin> bekks: multiple times.
[14:03] <Doxin> bekks: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/28298/
[14:03] <Doxin> bekks: did that, then upgrade,
[14:03] <Doxin> still nothing
[14:04] <Doxin> bekks: besides, I installed the system today, so it should already be at the newest version
[14:04] <bekks> Doxin: No.
[14:04] <Doxin> what no?
[14:04] <bekks> As you can see, you are not hitting the precise-updates repository.
[14:04] <Doxin> bekks: why not?
[14:04] <bekks> That why you dont have the latest updates.
[14:05] <almoxarife> Doxin: precise is 12.04, lts,
[14:05] <Doxin> almoxarife: yes.
[14:05] <bekks> Doxin: Because you did not enable it in the repository lists until now.
[14:05] <almoxarife> !lts
[14:05] <Doxin> bekks: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/28299/ is my sources.lst
[14:05] <bekks> almoxarife: What do you want to tell us? :)
[14:06] <Doxin> almoxarife: bananas grow on a shrub that looks like a tree. so what?
[14:06] <almoxarife> bekks: just did, :) tell you that is
[14:06] <bekks> Doxin: As you can see, no precise-updates...
[14:06] <Ankit> almoxarife: for ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10, 700mb installs have a usb method ... couldnt find for mini, only cd burning option was there, burnt CD , now grub rescue prompt
[14:06] <Doxin> bekks: so what do I add?
[14:06] <bekks> Doxin: I'd enable the repos needed/wanted in synaptic
[14:07] <Doxin> bekks: I don't have synaptic
[14:07] <Doxin> bekks: keep in mind I've installed it a bit oddly
[14:07] <almoxarife> Ankit: the burn method for the mini is exactly the same as 12.04 or 12.10, other than picking 'mini.iso' rather than xxxxxxx.iso
[14:07] <bekks> Doxin: Then install it :)
[14:07] <Doxin> :I
[14:08] <cjae> cant the startup disk creator make a dos environment on usb stick, I have a win98.iso but I cannot select it
[14:09]  * cfhowlett win98?  
[14:09] <disharmonic> Anyone know if purchases through Ubuntu Music get added to your 7digital account if you already have one?
[14:09] <almoxarife> i prefer windows for workgroups myself
[14:09] <Doxin> bekks: right, got synaptic, now what?
[14:10] <loopAndAhalf> guys, I need to access a retarded site that _REQUIRES_  Internet explorer. What do you suggest that I do? Any workarounds?
[14:10] <almoxarife> loopAndAhalf: whats the link?
[14:10] <Doxin> bekks: doing settings->repositories only reloads the package list.
[14:10] <mazda01> when I click to install RC Mini Racer a dialog pops up that states it will use xdg-open apt://decane-rcminiracers but it just opens a new chrome browser window with nothing in it
[14:11] <loopAndAhalf> almoxarife: It's not linkable.. screenie okay?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> loopAndAhalf: iirc IE6 can run in wine.  Check the wine database
[14:11] <almoxarife> screenie? new word
[14:11] <Doxin> bekks: the problem is that I dont have the default package sources list.
[14:11] <loopAndAhalf> almoxarife: Screenie is short for Screenshot.
[14:11] <mazda01> i am using Mint 14 which the ubuntu software center doesn't work in.
[14:11] <almoxarife> loopAndAhalf: install wine, install internet explorer?
[14:12] <loopAndAhalf> cfhowlett: Tried. didn't work.
[14:12] <iceroot> !mint | mazda01
[14:12] <loopAndAhalf> almoxarife: It requires _NEW_ internet explorer.
[14:12] <almoxarife> there are still sites that require windoz only browser? sounds scary
[14:13] <bekks> Doxin: Thats no problem, install synaptic, the enable the repos you are missing.
[14:13] <iceroot> loopAndAhalf: use playonlinux to install IE8
[14:13] <Doxin> bekks: _how_?
[14:13] <Doxin> bekks: not a single button in synaptic opens the repo list.
[14:13] <mazda01> when I click to install RC Mini Racer a dialog pops up that states it will use xdg-open apt://decane-rcminiracers but it just opens a new chrome browser window with nothing in it
[14:13] <bekks> Doxin: Because it is a menu entry, not a button. :)
[14:13] <iceroot> mazda01: as i said already, we dont support mint here
[14:13] <Doxin> bekks: which one then?
[14:13] <Doxin> bekks: settings->repositories?
[14:14] <Doxin> bekks: because that doesn't do _anything_
[14:14] <bekks> Doxin: Did you start synaptic as root?
[14:14] <Doxin> bekks: yes.
[14:14] <mazda01> iceroot: i am asking about xdg-open and apt://
[14:14] <Doxin> bekks: it refreshes the package list if I click it.
[14:14] <bekks> mazda01: But you dont have Ubuntu.
[14:14] <bekks> Doxin: What is "it"?
[14:15] <iceroot> mazda01: as i said already!, we dont support mint here
[14:15] <Doxin> bekks: that menu option
[14:15] <iceroot> mazda01: go to the mint channel to ask for support on your system
[14:15] <FireStorms> Hey, how can I delete a file of an SD card (not SDHC)? I've even tried with gksudo nautilus and nothing
[14:15] <almoxarife> mazda01: chrome is not picking up on having to run apt, do it long hand, sudo apt-get install decane-rcminiracers
[14:15] <bekks> almoxarife: This isnt the mint support.
[14:16] <almoxarife> bekks: and why would i know its MINT!
[14:16] <iceroot> FireStorms: as you delete a file on a hdd, ssd, shdc and so on
[14:16] <Doxin> bekks: manually changing the sources.lst fixed it it seems
[14:16] <bekks> almoxarife: Because he said so?
[14:16] <mazda01> almoxarife: doesn't work, package doesn't exist. it's a paid game
[14:16] <dr_willis> FireStorms: use the terminal. and check that its not mounted read only
[14:16] <almoxarife> bekks: too late
[14:16] <cocalaur> Greetings. Could anyone help me with a question (+(I am new to Ubuntu)? I need to view all my installed devices - like Device Manager in Windows. How could I accomplish this? thx
[14:16] <almoxarife> mazda01: i guess you dont get to play the game
[14:16] <cocalaur> Greetings. Could anyone help me with a question (+(I am new to Ubuntu)? I need to view all my installed devices - like Device Manager in Windows. How could I accomplish this? thx
[14:16] <cocalaur> Greetings. Could anyone help me with a question (+(I am new to Ubuntu)? I need to view all my installed devices - like Device Manager in Windows. How could I accomplish this? thx
[14:16] <FloodBot1> cocalaur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:17] <cocalaur> Greetings. Could anyone help me with a question (+(I am new to Ubuntu)? I need to view all my installed devices - like Device Manager in Windows. How could I accomplish this? thx
[14:17] <dcherniv> cocalaur, lspci and lsusb
[14:17] <iceroot> cocalaur: stop it
[14:18] <Dandylion> hi all, on my laptop, Ubuntu is installed on sdB ( not sda), as it has two physical drives), what if I remove sda, can I just adjust the MBR using a live CD and my Ubuntu on (previously sdB) would run fine?
[14:19] <elena-IK> I have problems with poor sshfs performance. with rsync over ssh or scp I get around 128 kB/s, with sshfs I get between 10 and 60 kB/s. is that normal?
[14:19] <dcherniv> Dandylion, yes that will work
[14:19] <Ankit> almoxarife: ok at the install page
[14:19] <Dandylion> I am actually no sure what happens in the BIOS when I remove that first physical drive, will sdb still be sdb, or become sda?
[14:19] <cocalaur> Greetings. Could anyone help me with a question (+(I am new to Ubuntu)? I need to view all my installed devices - like Device Manager in Windows. How could I accomplish this? thx
[14:19] <iceroot> Dandylion: just install grub on /dev/sdb
[14:19] <Ankit> almoxarife: install-command line-advanced options-help
[14:19] <mazda01> seems silly to me that ubuntu would restrict their own software center to only work on ubuntu versions. they could sell more programs/games if it would work in debian and other varients
[14:19] <Rikplay> How can i prevent a programme from starting up at system boot from outside the OS as i cannot start the OS due to this programme "apache2"???
[14:19] <Dandylion> and in Ubuntu, will sdb then be sda, so something might break?
[14:20] <iceroot> Dandylion: the device-name may change but the UUID will be the same and that is what grub is using
[14:20] <bekks> mazda01: You are using Mint, not Ubuntu.
[14:20] <almoxarife> Ankit: what are the options?
[14:20] <dcherniv> Dandylion, sdb or sda it wont matter ubuntu uses UUID to identify disks, but if the mbr is on sda then sdb wont boot
[14:20] <iceroot> mazda01: now stop this offtopic here please, thank you
[14:20] <diverdude_> Hello, how do i remove partition table and all partitions from a /dev/sdc device using parted?
[14:20] <Dandylion> ok, how about symlinks that works within sdb, will they be affected by a change in sdb->sda?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> mazda01: and Mint is not supported here.  Sorry.
[14:20] <iceroot> Dandylion: no
[14:20] <dcherniv> mazda01, software center is not needed or welcome on debian
[14:21] <Dandylion> iceroot: no = symlinks will not be affected if sdb becomes sda?
[14:21] <almoxarife> dcherniv: yet, there it is, on ubuntu
[14:21] <iceroot> Dandylion: yes
[14:21] <dcherniv> Dandylion, unless there's symlinks on sdb that point to sda
[14:21] <mazda01> are there .deb files somewhere of whats in the software center?
[14:21] <Ankit> almoxarife: i clicked on install
[14:21] <dcherniv> almoxarife, key word ubuntu :)
[14:21] <iceroot> mazda01: yes
[14:22] <almoxarife> Ankit: cool
[14:22] <iceroot> mazda01: in the ubuntu repos
[14:22] <iceroot> mazda01: or any other repos which are used ( /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and /etc/apt/sources.list)
[14:22] <Ankit> almoxarife: then a bunch of questions .. then chose mirror as US and now downloading files ...purple screen with a white bar to type in at the bottom
[14:23] <almoxarife> dcherniv: its at times like this that i appreciate the geko, alot
[14:23] <almoxarife> Ankit: farther than before
[14:23] <mazda01> iceroot: not the rc racer game isn't despite having quantal repos activated
[14:23] <Rikplay> how to stop services starting up with boot
[14:23] <almoxarife> Ankit: might have picked a closer mirror, that one is down the street from me
[14:23] <Dandylion> dcherniv: yes, obviously those pointing to the drive I am removing will break
[14:23] <iceroot> mazda01: ask your mint support channel!!!!!!!!!
[14:24] <iceroot> mazda01: we dont support mint here so stop it now!!
[14:24] <mazda01> thanks for the support guys
[14:24] <almoxarife> mazda01: i have seen mint support channel, they are very good at it, stop making an ????? of yourself
[14:24] <bekks> iceroot: It's a troll, just let him go, Jim ;)
[14:24] <cocalaur> Greetings. Could anyone help me with a question (I am new to Ubuntu)? I need to view all my installed devices - like Device Manager in Windows. How could I accomplish this? thanks.
[14:24] <Rikplay> mazda01: mint comes with xchat preloaded with mint support channels at startup, they are very good at helping out mint issues there
[14:24] <Ankit> almoxarife: lol ... its ok ... US ones are reliable
[14:25] <bekks> !patience | cocalaur
[14:25] <mazda01> almoxarife: stop being a ??????
[14:25] <Ankit> almoxarife:  now loading additional components
[14:25] <bekks> mazda01: Stop it please.
[14:25] <iceroot> cocalaur: sudo lshw
[14:25] <almoxarife> Ankit: thats the part that counts, it will load drivers based on your components, lets hope
[14:26] <AntiSol> hi! :)
[14:26] <Ankit> almoxarife: yes... i did get that part when, so propoer HW detection and drivers that match will be downloaded .. right ?
[14:26] <mazda01> bekks: he reverted to name calling first, just following his lead. i thanked you guys for trying to help and moved on and then he had to insult me. is that what ubuntu support is about?
[14:26] <almoxarife> Ankit: simon
[14:26] <Ankit> almoxarife:  hope this works, the display drivers in my previous install were messed up
[14:26] <disharmonic> Anyone know if purchases through Ubuntu Music get added to your 7digital account if you already have one?
[14:27] <bekks> mazda01: Stop being offtopic in here, finally.
[14:27]  * cfhowlett mature much?
[14:27] <iceroot> mazda01: this channel is for ubuntu support, everything else goes to other chanells, like mint and other offtopic stuff could you please just stop offtopic here now? thank you
[14:27] <Ankit> almoxarife:  simon ?
[14:27]  * Laban = Simon
[14:27] <almoxarife> Ankit: simon=ya man=mexican slang
[14:28] <mazda01> cfhowlett: you felt you needed to get the last work in? as I stated, he reverted to name calling FIRST. so apparently he isn't mature either. I am done now. good day sirs
[14:28] <simpleuser> Hello.
[14:28] <newa2kurt> anybody help i just restart pc, i cant open firefox
[14:28] <cfhowlett> simpleuser: greetings
[14:28] <almoxarife> them mint users are such children :)
[14:28] <simpleuser> Before i could triple tap on my touchpad (1 tap : left click, 2 taps : middle click, 3 taps : right click). But not anymore. How could i change this ? For now 2 taps give me a right click.
[14:28] <maxymilians> kratos
[14:28] <simpleuser> 3 taps give me nothing.
[14:29] <newa2kurt> heres the masage: Could not initialize the application's security component. The most likely cause is problems with files in your application's profile directory. Please check that this directory has no read/write restrictions and your hard disk is not full or close to full. It is recommended that you exit the application and fix the problem. If you continue to use this session, you might see incorrect application behaviour when accessing security feat
[14:29] <Ankit> almoxarife: Go Simon
[14:29] <newa2kurt> ures.
[14:29] <AntiSol> I'm wondering if anybody can offer any advice. I'm currently running lucid x86 on my 64-bit machine. I think I want to upgrade to 12.04 amd64. I'm wondering if 'do-release-upgrade' will offer me a choice, or am I better off getting the 12.04 amd64 ISO? also just in general can i expect the 10.04 -> 12.04 upgrade to go smoothly? thanks!
[14:29] <AntiSol> (offer a choice to go to 64bit, that it)
[14:29] <bekks> AntiSol: You cant upgrade, you have to reinstall.
[14:29] <cfhowlett> AntiSol: if your machine is 64 bit capable, go with that
[14:30] <cfhowlett> AntiSol: "smoothly" upgrade?  well ...
[14:30] <AntiSol> can't upgrade from 32->64 at all?
[14:30] <iceroot> AntiSol: correct
[14:30] <bekks> AntiSol: No.
[14:30] <simpleuser> No one ?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> AntiSol: I recommend you clean install, but LTS (lucid) will offer to upgrade to the next LTS ...
[14:31] <AntiSol> aah, well, glad i asked! I looked at 64bit when i installed 10.04 but I think there were still issues with some things (maybe flash?) is that all sorted? can I expect 64bit to work well?
[14:31] <bekks> cfhowlett: There is no way of upgrading from x86 to x64.
[14:31] <AntiSol> cfhowlett: it does indeed. the consensus seems to be a clean install
[14:31] <bekks> AntiSol: 64bit works fine here, for the last 10 years.
[14:32] <cfhowlett> bekks: I must have misunderstood.  I thought he was already running 64
[14:32] <Ankit> almoxarife: im at partitioning diska
[14:32] <AntiSol> cool
[14:32] <Zael> i wouldn't say 10 years
[14:32] <AntiSol> no im running x86 on a 64bit chip
[14:32] <Zael> more like... 3-4
[14:32] <Ankit> almoxarife: disks, i want to use entire disk
[14:32] <Zael> flash used to have some real issues on 64 bit
[14:32] <bekks> Zael: I am saying 10, because I am not using 32bit for 10 years now.
[14:32] <almoxarife> Ankit: unless you want a seperate partition for /home
[14:32] <cfhowlett> AntiSol: 64 bit chip and at least 4 gigs ram?  go with AMD/64
[14:33] <Zael> i'm always bad with time though, could be longer
[14:33] <bekks> cfhowlett: That 4GB RAM argument is pointless.
[14:33] <almoxarife> Ankit: use, the full for now, you can always change it later
[14:33] <Ankit> almoxarife: options: 1.  resize  2. use entire disk, 3. entire disk with LVM    4. with encrypted LVM
[14:33] <AntiSol> yeah, there's PAE
[14:33] <cfhowlett> bekks: I gtg.  Please clarify for the rest of the channel.
[14:33] <almoxarife> Ankit: 2. entire disk
[14:33] <AntiSol> hehe well cool then, I think that's all I need to know! I'll do a clean install of x64. Thank you all for your advice! :)
[14:34] <AntiSol> cfhowlett: the PAE kernel can address >4G RAM
[14:34] <bekks> AntiSol: PAE doesnt enable you to use more than 4GB RAM per process.
[14:34] <AntiSol> oh really? I didn't know that! another advantage to x64!
[14:34] <bekks> AntiSol: Thats no advantage. Thats crap.
[14:35] <bekks> AntiSol: Use a x64 bit kernel, on a 64bit hardware-
[14:35] <AntiSol>  ok... now I too would like you to explain why that's no advantage! :)
[14:35] <bekks> Why do you call sucha a limit being an advantage? It limits things, it does not advance anything.
[14:36] <Zael> not much anyway
[14:36] <AntiSol> i said that x64 had an advantage
[14:36] <AntiSol> over x86
[14:36] <nrdb> I am having trouble with some route tables... I have a VM running OpenVPN ... it VPN IP is 10.7.0.1 ... it has a route table entry "10.7.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 tap-openvpn" .... shouldn't this mean that any packet received with an IP address of 10.7.0.2 should be put on the "tap-openvpn" interface?
[14:36] <anonymous_> hello
[14:37] <anonymous_> zsh
[14:37] <disharmonic> well i found my answer. In case anyone is interested it's "no, 7digital accounts and Ubuntu Music can't be merged" https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/can-i-merge-my-7digital-and-ubuntu-one-account/
[14:38] <Zael> is everything on that drm free?
[14:38] <anonymous_> french
[14:38] <almoxarife> disharmonic: on the bright side, you still have a 'amazon shopping' option search thing
[14:38] <disharmonic> iirc yes
[14:39] <AntiSol> nrdb: I think the 'gateway' in that route table entry might not be correct. but I'm not 100% sure.
[14:39] <Zael> amazon is no joke... they make like 20% of the sales for black friday
[14:39] <disharmonic> almoxarife, lol. I'm not in any of the priviledged countries anyway :p
[14:40] <nrdb> AntiSol, ok I will try changing it.
[14:40] <AntiSol> nrdb: problem is im not sure where it should point... it the VM the VPN server?
[14:40] <newa2kurt> ok, done.. just only a reset ;-(
[14:40] <AntiSol> bekks, cfhowlett: thanks for your advice! :)
[14:40] <Ankit> almoxarife: installing base system ... taking long .. phew, this will take a while
[14:41] <denysonique_> Hi
[14:41] <denysonique_> find /sys -name 'scaling_governor'
[14:41] <denysonique_> returns nothing
[14:41] <almoxarife> Ankit: how many min has it been?
[14:41] <denysonique_> I would like to tweak my CPU scaling
[14:41] <Ankit> 15
[14:41] <almoxarife> Ankit: thats nothing.
[14:41] <disharmonic> AntiSol, amazon is not a joke, but the way Canonical handled the integration with Dash pretty much is
[14:42] <almoxarife> denysonique_: thats doable
[14:42] <Ankit> almoxarife: 15...on 6% I can see it says retrieving files ... and the names keep changing slowly
[14:42] <anonymous_> attack ddos 46.105.32.2 We Are Anonymous
[14:42] <diverdude_> how do i see on which partition the grubloader is located on?
[14:42] <bekks> denysonique_: find /sys | grep scaling
[14:42] <almoxarife> Ankit: whats the d/l rate?
[14:42] <anonymous_> attack ddos 46.105.32.2 We Are Anonymous
[14:42] <bekks> !ops | anonymous_
[14:42] <Ankit> almoxarife:  cant see... my connection is 1mbps
[14:43] <jrib> !fr | anonymous_
[14:43] <almoxarife> fireup the cannons
[14:43] <jrib> anonymous_: please don't spam this channel with that anonymous stuff, thanks
[14:43] <cheesecakes> gj #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:43] <cheesecakes> oops
[14:44] <disharmonic> AntiSol, sry that should have been @ Zael :p
[14:44] <Zael> except, you're not anonymous
[14:44] <almoxarife> Ankit: which flavor did you pick?
[14:44] <Zael> disharmonic: i fully agree
[14:44] <AntiSol> disharmonic: hehe, I thought so, I was confused there for a second! ;)
[14:46] <Ankit> almoxarife: 12.04
[14:47] <almoxarife> Ankit: no choice of desktop?
[14:47] <EmmEight> can you boot snowleapord on a pc using GRUB?
[14:48] <nrdb> AntiSol, the VM is the VPN server
[14:48] <bekks> EmmEight: Is it an Apple PC?
[14:48] <k1l_> EmmEight: that would be question for the mac guys?
[14:48] <EmmEight> just wondering if anyone had tried it
[14:49] <EmmEight> It is a windows PC NRDB
[14:49] <nrdb> EmmEight, all the PC are Linux
[14:49] <Zael> EmmEight: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/189079-grub2-as-the-only-boot-loader-its-possible/ ?
[14:49] <bekks> nrdb: Which is wrong.
[14:50] <bekks> EmmEight: And OSX on a non-Apple-PC isnt supported, even by the mac guys.
[14:51] <EmmEight> bekks: thats fine, I just need it for demonstration purposes only
[14:51] <nrdb> EmmEight, bekks,  I can ping both interfaces of the VM... and the VM can ping the interfaces on the connecting computers .... but each I can get a ping to go though the VPN server.
[14:51] <bekks> EmmEight: Which doesnt make it more supported :P BAsically, it is illegal, even.
[14:52] <SpaceRocket> where is the conversation log for empathy?
[14:52] <Zael> illegal lol
[14:52] <EmmEight> bekks: .. laws.. since when do those matter?
[14:52] <Zael> another reason to not like apple
[14:52] <bekks> EmmEight: Since the invention of law and order.
[14:52] <EmmEight> bekks: who exactly invented that? FOX?
[14:53] <bekks> EmmEight: No, OT. :P
[14:55] <nrdb> EmmEight, bekks,  but I can not get a ping to go though the VPN server.
[14:55] <EmmEight> nrdb: what are you trying to do?
[14:55] <Zael> what kinda vpn, maybe it blocks pings
[14:55] <kRush> anyone with an ati card noticing how screen updates seem to be out of sync? e.g. the blinking terminal cursor goes steady after a while or blinks in weird intervals, the clock on htop skipping seconds although it's supposed to update in 1sec intervals, scrolling feeling sluggish etc. What can I do? Already tried various ccsm settings related to vsync
[14:56] <EmmEight> kRush: get a new card
[14:56] <kRush> that's not an option
[14:56] <EmmEight> kRush: get a differn't os?
[14:57] <kRush> wow
[14:57] <bekks> kRush: Sounds like a broken card.
[14:57] <U2ros> hello, im trying to setup an Upstart script for postgresql job, the script tries to create a /var/run/postgresql folder which is used by postgresql server at runtime, but what it actually creates... is a folder named /var/www/postgresql? ...note the question mark at the end.... any idea why it adds the question mark to the end of the foldername? there isnt one in the script
[14:57] <nrdb> EmmEight, I have a 10.8.0.0/24 home network, 10.7.0.0/24 VPN, with a remote computer on the other side of the VPN and I want to access it.
[14:57] <EmmEight> nrdb: can you create a private room and I will join and walk you through
[14:58] <nrdb> EmmEight, use #vpn_trouble
[14:58] <EmmEight> joining now
[14:59] <Zael> imagine if only Fisher Price made an operating system... oh, no wait... that's the Mac
[15:01] <SpaceRocket> where is the conversation log path for empathy?
[15:02] <Scofiled19> hello
[15:02] <Zael> hi
[15:02] <almoxarife> ~/.gnome2/Empathy/logs <-- SpaceRocket...
[15:02] <SpaceRocket> almoxarife, the path doesn't exsits
[15:03] <Zael> try using find with Empathy on your home
[15:05] <almoxarife> SpaceRocket: ~/.local/share/TpLogger/logs ??
[15:05] <SpaceRocket> almoxarife, yes :) thanks
[15:06] <almoxarife> !mission-control
[15:07] <krmpd> h
[15:07] <Zael> hi
[15:13] <Ankit> almoxarife: is so much trouble for a clean install that often ?
[15:13] <Ankit> almoxarife: i dont remember any of my friends complaining about the install
[15:13] <almoxarife> Ankit: how do you mean?
[15:14] <Zael> clean installs of ubuntu are quick and easy
[15:14] <TeamColtra> Hey guys, can someone help me with installing this PPA: http://pastie.org/5502436 -- it says the following signature could not be verified because it doesn't have it's public key… yet GPG says there is a public key
[15:14] <Zael> it just becomes a pain when you're a developer and have to go load back like 100 libraries and development tools/kits
[15:14] <elena-IK> I have problems with poor sshfs performance. with rsync over ssh or scp I get around 128 kB/s, with sshfs I get between 10 and 60 kB/s. is that normal?
[15:15] <bekks> elena-IK: Yes.
[15:15] <Ankit> almoxarife:  i took this from here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[15:16] <almoxarife> Ankit: yes, the mini.iso for precise 32bit, what about it?
[15:17] <almoxarife> Ankit: where is the install at ? progress wise?
[15:17] <Ankit> almoxarife: you were asking about the desktop install option
[15:18] <Ankit> almoxarife:  there was none ... so i sent you the link from where i got it
[15:18] <Ankit> almoxarife:  at select and install software
[15:18] <almoxarife> Ankit: i meant what version of desktop, kde/lxde/xfce/unity??
[15:18] <Ankit> almoxarife:  no idea
[15:19] <almoxarife> Ankit: probably unity
[15:19] <bugiam> hello. i've been messing around trying to get sound into ZSNES. and now ALL sound is gone. i've reverted all my changes but there is still no sound, anywhere. is there a way to let linux default all sound configurations?
[15:21] <fermulator> Is the Ubuntu Extras repository dead?  Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[15:21] <fermulator> Running Ubuntu 11.04
[15:22] <escott> TeamColtra, did you import the key with apt-key
[15:22] <almoxarife> fermulator: yeap, the oldest is oneiric
[15:23] <fermulator> almoxarife: ah yes I see now; http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/extras?dist=natty, what does one do in this situation?  can I bump extras to the NEXT version of Ubuntu,without upgrading my distro?
[15:25] <almoxarife> fermulator: not from the source you chose, and i dont know where else to look
[15:25] <Ankit> almoxarife: asking me how to manage updates ?
[15:25] <almoxarife> Ankit: choices are?
[15:26] <fermulator> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/extras?dist=natty
[15:26] <fermulator> fermulator@fermmy:/etc/apt$ sudo grep -rin extras *
[15:26] <fermulator> sources.list:57:deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu natty main #Third party developers repository
[15:26] <Ankit> install security updates automatically
[15:26] <almoxarife> Ankit: yes
[15:26] <fermulator> almoxarife: was just thinking, replace "natty" with "oneric"
[15:26] <Ankit> almoxarife: managesystem with landscape
[15:26] <almoxarife> fermulator: not a good idea
[15:26] <Ankit> almoxarife: and no updates
[15:26] <fermulator> heh; ok; i'll just live without it
[15:27] <almoxarife> Ankit: not sure, i would say no, you can always change it later, landscape is an extra app, i dont know anything about
[15:27] <yellabs> hello all
[15:28] <yellabs> the icon set used in the dash, on the bottum, what is it called, where could i find it ?
[15:28] <Ankit> almoxarife:  now it asks..choose software to install and a long list of flavours
[15:28] <almoxarife> Ankit: name some
[15:29] <Ankit> almoxarife: it has ubuntu desktop and manual package option
[15:29] <almoxarife> Ankit: ubuntu desktop, dont go manual
[15:30] <Ankit> almoxarife: ubuntu desktop done
[15:30] <guang_> which tool can be used to analysis fat?
[15:30] <almoxarife> Ankit: that should be 'unity', i think
[15:30] <Ankit> almoxarife: approx how much time from here ... with 100kbps downloading speed
[15:31] <Phaba> file system??
[15:31] <almoxarife> Ankit: 100k?
[15:31] <almoxarife> Ankit: what happened to the 1meg?
[15:32] <Ankit> worst case senario...i'm not getting speeds
[15:32] <almoxarife> Ankit: i would say that the desktop is the lesser, base should have been longer
[15:33] <almoxarife> Ankit: but at 100k its going to be a slow ride still :(
[15:33] <guang_> Ankit:yes,file system.
[15:35] <almoxarife> Ankit: is the hardwire connection slower than your wifi?
[15:35] <almoxarife> Ankit: not that it can be unplugged
[15:37] <chris__> how to install 2d on 12.10
[15:37] <chris__> i always got crash with sandy bridge graphics, so i want to use only 2d mode with the gui
[15:37] <nodestool> what is a good framework for timing functions, like i want to compare two functions to see which is faster; i have been using $start = microtime(); func(); echo microtime() - $start; but sometimes i get a negative number returned
[15:38] <nodestool> sorry wrong channel
[15:39] <bugiam> I hope someone can help me. i made some changes to /etc/asound.conf and it didn't end well. how can i get it back to default?
[15:39] <roasted> hello friends!
[15:40] <Erie01> .
[15:40] <Guest37621> ???
[15:40] <chris__> so what kind of uniuty should i use in 12.10
[15:40] <roasted> Question - I'm trying to set up this backup of my server... two servers... one running 247... the 2nd is a once-a-day backup of all of the data on the main server. The systems belonging to my wife and I sync our data to the main server. I want to, all at once, take everything on server A and rsync to server B. Problem is, some of her files are permed as 600, so I have zero access. I'd like the command to run without error. Is it safe to run this rsync 
[15:41] <escott> roasted, either you run the rsync as root, or you run it as her, or you don't back up some of her files.
[15:43] <roasted> escott: k, that was my train of thought - just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. If it were you, would you trust running rsync as root? I thought I recall having a bad experience years ago when my mount point failed...
[15:43] <escott> roasted, if she doesn't want you reading her love letters then she should enable encrypted home and have you backup the ciphertext ;)
[15:44] <neuron> Makefile:105: *** Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h.  Stop
[15:44] <neuron> what should i do?
[15:44] <escott> roasted, when the mount point failed? not sure why that would make root backup go badly
[15:44] <roasted> escott: so instead of rsync copying to /media/storage on the other server (whcih was mounted to another large HDD) the HDD failed, so it was writing to /media/storage (since I was running as root, perms allowed it) which was inadvertently on the internal 80GB OS drive.... filled it in no time.....
[15:44] <escott> roasted, you just have to test for that in the script
[15:44] <newa2kurt> #ubuntu-beginners
[15:45] <neuron> hi escott can you help me out in this
[15:45] <dr_willis> !kernel
[15:45] <neuron> Makefile:105: *** Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h.  Stop.
[15:45] <tjingboem> youtube films have weird colors. Red has become blue. Can i change this?
[15:45] <roasted> escott: test... to make sure the mount point exists?
[15:45] <LucidLuna> @tjingboem right click on the youtube video
[15:45] <roasted> escott: I'm kind of drawing a blank for that. Is it a quick command or something I need to whip up and heavily customize for my setup?
[15:46] <dr_willis> tjingboem: disable hardware acelleration in the flash player settings/menus is a common fix
[15:46] <LucidLuna> @tjinboem open properties, then disable hardware video acceleration
[15:46] <neuron> Makefile:105: *** Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h.  Stop.
[15:46] <neuron> please help me out
[15:46] <escott> roasted, that the desired filesystem is mounted on that location. a couple ways to do that. one would be to umount then "touch /media/storage/not_mounted" and test for the existence of that file. if you see it stop
[15:46] <bekks> neuron: What exactly are you doing? Which Ubuntu do you use?
[15:46] <neuron> 12.04
[15:46] <Ankit> almoxarife: installation finished ... system rebooted....blank screen..no activity
[15:46] <neuron> internet is not working on it
[15:46] <l0ll0lll> hi all. Where's sysprof-module-source in precise? Has it been renamed or what?
[15:46] <neuron> gigabyte motherboard
[15:46] <neuron> g41m combo
[15:47] <roasted> escott: you mean, if you don't see it, stop?
[15:47] <almoxarife> Ankit: bad
[15:47] <escott> roasted, depends on where you put it. you could put a file that flags it as being mounted in the filesystem and a flag that it is not mounted on the mountpoint inode (which is hidden when you mount)
[15:47] <Ankit> almoxarife: this is where i give up ?
[15:47] <almoxarife> Ankit: can you get to a terminal, crtl-alt-f1
[15:48] <neuron> tried everything but still can not work, auto eth0 not connectinf
[15:48] <Ankit> almoxarife: see... I can ... but i cant see it, as if the display is switched off
[15:49] <tjingboem> thanks everyone who helped, the colors are normal now!
[15:49] <Zael> try ctrl-alt-f7
[15:49] <Zael> i've also seen that happen where you just need to reset, and when you do it'll be fixed
[15:49] <dr_willis> !nomodset | Ankit
[15:49] <neuron> is there anyone who can help me out in this issue?
[15:49] <neuron> Makefile:105: *** Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h.  Stop.
[15:49] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Ankit
[15:49] <neuron> internet not working
[15:50] <almoxarife> Zael: cntrl-alt-f8 the f7 also works for me sometimes
[15:50] <Ankit> dr_willis: did that ... that helps in installing, post that, I dont see the screen
[15:50] <almoxarife> Zael: cntrl-alt-f8 then f7 also works for me sometimes
[15:50] <escott> neuron, no idea what you are doing
[15:50] <dr_willis> neuron:  you have installed the kernel headers package?
[15:50] <almoxarife> Ankit: did you get to the grub menu?
[15:53] <almoxarife> dr_willis: dont headers get installed by default?
[15:53] <dr_willis> !headers
[15:53] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  nope
[15:53] <Ankit> ubottu: that is too technical for me ... someone has to break it down for me...
[15:54] <almoxarife> dr_willis: ok
[15:54] <almoxarife> Ankit: can you get to a terminal?
[15:54] <Sp0tter> with zfs available as a kernel module now, is it the same version of zfs as in current solaris?
[15:54] <Sp0tter> or is it N revisions behind
[15:54] <Ankit> almoxarife:  i do not kow how
[15:55] <almoxarife> Ankit: cntr-alt-f1
[15:56] <dr_willis> !zfs
[15:56] <almoxarife> Ankit: ??
[15:57] <tsimpson> almoxarife: it's usually a good idea to tell people how to get back from a TTY if they likely don't know... or direct them to a terminal emulator instead
[15:57] <dr_willis> he dont know ho
[15:57] <almoxarife> tsimpson: what?????????????????????????????
[15:57] <Ankit> almoxarife: I have actually followed everything you said, please follow mine too, I said, my screen seems switched off, there is something happening but i cant see it, its black and blank, how do I send you a picture or make a video ???
[15:57] <Sp0tter> dr_willis: that was not helpful of you
[15:58] <tsimpson> almoxarife: how are they supposed to know that Alt-F7 gets them back to X after they switch to TTY1?
[15:58] <RickZilla> I was getting ready to install ubuntu on my desktop, took a look at my HD with gparted, and came across something I didn't expect. I took two screen shots, can somebody let me know what this problem is and how to address it? Thanks in advance for your help. http://rickscheibner.net/images/screen1.png and http://rickscheibner.net/images/screen2.png
[15:58] <almoxarife> Ankit: when the machine first booted, was there a menu, if so, return to it via boot
[15:59] <Ankit> almoxarife:  with pen drive inserted of without ? like boot from hard drive or pen drive ?
[15:59] <almoxarife> tsimpson: dude, you are a bit late into the conversation, if Ankit... had gotten to graphics display we would not be having this convo
[15:59] <almoxarife> Ankit: without usb
[16:00] <tsimpson> almoxarife: then they would already be at a terminal, right?
[16:01] <dr_willis> perhaps the text mode and intalling ssh would help.  then he can at least get into the box.
[16:01] <almoxarife> tsimpson: i am sure you are trying to help, i know it
[16:01] <Ankit> almoxarife: there is a problem with graphics ? this thing doesnt have a graphic card ... some on board.. Intel GMA 4500MHD
[16:01] <almoxarife> Ankit: please reboot, do you come to grub menu?
[16:02] <Ankit> almoxarife: now its asking for my ubuntu login..
[16:02] <Zael> RickZilla: looks like a corrupt file system
[16:02] <almoxarife> Ankit: really? graphics?
[16:02] <metaphysician> How do I remove the write-protection of a USB stick?
[16:02] <RickZilla> Zael: file system, but not necessarily corrupt drive?
[16:02] <Ankit> i'm at user@ubuntu:~$
[16:03] <Zael> RickZilla: have you ran a check on it? yeah, not necessarily a drive problem
[16:03] <almoxarife> Ankit: use the user/pass you chose during install
[16:03] <Ankit> almoxarife:  done
[16:03] <almoxarife> are you at a terminal or graphics login?
[16:03] <RickZilla> Zael: New drive, I didn't do anything before installing Win...I ran disk health check and no bad sectors are reported
[16:04] <dr_willis> metaphysician:  its possibly its just mounted with read only permissions. or only root can write to it
[16:04] <Zael> RickZilla: i'd get the manufacturer's utilities and run their thorough check on it
[16:04] <almoxarife> Ankit: you setup the user name to 'user'?
[16:04] <RickZilla> Zael: K, if that checks out, do I reformat HD and start over?
[16:05] <Ankit> almoxarife:  no, its samragi@ubuntu:~$
[16:05] <metaphysician> dr_willis: I am root, I get "mount: block device /dev/sdc1 is write-protected, mounting read-only"
[16:05] <almoxarife> Ankit: the terminal was there after you did something??
[16:05] <Zael> RickZilla: well checkdisk might be able to repair a filesystem issue.. but if you have nothing to loose, i'd recommend a full reformat
[16:05] <Ankit> yes, i logged in
[16:06] <Ankit> almoxarife:  i first logged in then the terminal came
[16:06] <RickZilla> Zael, k...I saw those instructions, how do I run chkdsk in win?
[16:06] <Zael> RickZilla: i'd run it from the windows repair prompt on the cd
[16:06] <Zael> RickZilla: or at least using safe mode boot with command prompt
[16:06] <dr_willis> metaphysician:  ive seen flashdrives with  write protect switches. and seen them fail and become read only.
[16:06] <RickZilla> Zael, I'd rather not reformat because of time issues, but I can do so in a few weeks
[16:06] <almoxarife> Ankit: ok, lets try cntr-alt-f7 again, if nothing shows return to the terminal via cntr-alt-f1
[16:07] <RickZilla> Zael, I have the win repair disk, I'll check that out...if I need to reformat, any specific format to use?
[16:08] <RickZilla> Zael, eventually, I'll be dual booting Win7 and ubuntu
[16:08] <Zael> RickZilla: full ntfs
[16:08] <Ankit> almoxarife:  mount all: disconnected from plymouth
[16:08] <RickZilla> Zael, got it, thanks so much for the help, that gets me started in the right direction
[16:08] <almoxarife> Ankit: see that where?
[16:08] <metaphysician> dr_willis: if the write-protection was automatically set to prevent file-system corruption, can we remove the write-protection?
[16:08] <edo89> hello.... is it possible to find out all the dates when the comp was updated ?
[16:08] <KScorp> which software can defrag NTFS fyle systems on ubuntu?
[16:08] <Ankit> almoxarife: top of screen
[16:09] <Ankit> almoxarife: non gui
[16:09] <yeats> edo89: what is your end goal?
[16:09] <dr_willis> metaphysician: what fileststem is on the usb!
[16:09] <almoxarife> on which screen f7?
[16:09] <metaphysician> dr_willis: fat32
[16:10] <ben1u> How can I configure Ubuntu 12.04 so that when I am logged in via SSH someone gets a special message while you want to turn off the computer?
[16:10] <yeats> edo89: /var/log/dpkg.log is the best source of information about when APT packages were installed/updated/uninstalled
[16:10] <Ankit> almoxarife:  you there
[16:10] <almoxarife> Ankit: yeap
[16:10] <dr_willis> metaphysician: therss a force  option to mount or ntfs-3g in rw mode i recall.
[16:10] <Ankit> almoxarife: just curious, you work for ubuntu
[16:10] <Ankit> ?
[16:10] <yeats> ben1u: check out 'wall'
[16:10] <almoxarife> Ankit: nope
[16:10] <edo89> thank you yeats..... i have updated my ubuntu today.... i would like to know what was the exact date i updated it the time before.....
[16:11] <Ankit> almoxarife:  wow... thanks for your effort... i wish i could guide someone like this
[16:11] <almoxarife> Ankit: we have not gotten anything done my friend
[16:12] <Kroach> is it possible to use GPG in a nautilus script? if yes, how?
[16:12] <Ankit> almoxarife:  other window ?
[16:12] <almoxarife> Ankit: to move about the terminals you press ctrl-alt-f1 thru f7, try that
[16:12] <dr_willis> we need to get a troubleshooting flow charts madeup someday with tests and fixs to try.
[16:13] <edo89> anybody knows how to find out the dates of when the updates were done?
[16:13] <dr_willis> Kroach: nautilus scripting can use bash or python or other languages.. so it should be doable
[16:14] <yeats> edo89: did /var/log/dpkg.log not help?
[16:14] <escott> Kroach, either seahorse or http://savvyadmin.com/gnupg-context-menu-options-for-gnome-nautilus/
[16:15] <yeats> !pm | edo89
[16:15] <Kroach> dr_willis: the problem is, I use gpg in a script, and when executed from the command line it works but when I use it from nautilus it doesn't
[16:16] <bobweaver> edo89,  you have looked at /var/log/apt/*
[16:16] <dr_willis> Kroach: common issues  are  different $PATH or other  ststem variables
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> edo89  there's also /var/log/syslog
[16:16] <edo89> sorry.... but another i was told the opposite.... that it's always better to do the private thing.....
[16:16] <bobweaver> mainly term.log & history
[16:16] <dr_willis> Kroach: how are you using it from nautilus
[16:17] <sheperson> hey guys
[16:18] <Kroach> dr_willis: it's located in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and I use it from nautilus context menu(Scripts>myscript)
[16:18] <sheperson> is it possible to change the color of the terminal cursor?
[16:18] <sheperson> (only the cursor)
[16:18] <neuron> hi can anyone help me out?
[16:18] <neuron>  Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h
[16:18] <dr_willis> neuron:  you installed the kernel headers package?
[16:19] <bobweaver> Kroach,  whta is /usr/share/app-install/desktop/nautilus-scripts-manager:nautilus-scripts-manager.desktop
[16:19] <neuron> yes
[16:19] <neuron> installed autoconf too
[16:19] <bekks> neuron: Please tell us what you are doing exactly, and especially what you are doing before that error show up.
[16:19] <neuron> i am tryinh to install theros driver package
[16:19] <neuron> atheros*
[16:19] <dr_willis> neuron:  you installed  build-essential ?
[16:19] <neuron> yes
[16:19] <bekks> neuron: "how" and "exactly" :)
[16:19] <neuron> its ubuntu 12.04
[16:20] <dr_willis> neuron:  you installed  kernel sources?
[16:20] <neuron> no
[16:20] <neuron> please tell which package is it
[16:21] <dr_willis> the kernal factoid says i think.
[16:21] <dr_willis> !kernal
[16:21] <dr_willis> !kernel
[16:21] <Kroach> bobweaver: a desktop entry for a not installed package
[16:21] <dr_willis> brb..
[16:22] <xsi_> How to list all the channels on irc.freenode.net after I login?
[16:22] <alo21> hi
[16:22] <bekks> xsi_: Dont do it, that are > 10000 channels.
[16:23] <bekks> !alis | xsi
[16:23] <bekks> !alis | xsi_
[16:23] <Larchateur> Bonjour
[16:23] <neuron> now i am confused
[16:23] <bobweaver> Kroach, maybe you want to install that ?
[16:24] <Larchateur> Hi
[16:24] <bobweaver> Kroach,  place scripts in /usr/share/nautuails-scripts    << spelling is wrong
[16:24] <neuron> does installing kernel-sources resolves this issue
[16:24] <neuron>  Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h
[16:24] <sheperson> again, is it possible to change the color of the terminal cursor?
[16:25] <Kroach> bobweaver: what's the difference between placing them in /usr/share/nautuails-scripts and ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts, I'd like to keep them to my user only if possible
[16:26] <bobweaver> not sure Kroach  I do not have a ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[16:26] <bobweaver> IDT  Oo
[16:26] <neuron> any linux pro here?
[16:26] <yeats> sheperson: seen this?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104609/how-can-i-change-the-color-of-my-cursor-in-gnome-terminal
[16:26] <rfirmin> hello, i just installed kubuntu 12.10 on my other pc, and resolv.conf is not populating
[16:26] <bobweaver> Kroach,  Nm I do have that there mybe you can link scripts if not working ?
[16:26] <neuron> hi yeats
[16:26] <bobweaver> er I DO have that *
[16:27] <neuron> can you help me out
[16:27] <neuron> ?
[16:27] <Kroach> bobweaver: I keep my nautilus scripts in there and they work properly, except for the one with gpg of course
[16:27] <neuron>  Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h
[16:27] <bobweaver> Kroach,  is gpg correct what is gpg script for ?
[16:27] <bobweaver> bzr?
[16:27] <neuron> what should id do?
[16:27] <dr_willis> neuron:  the error seems to be asking for the sources
[16:27] <edo89> i dont understand.... today when i updated the sytem i had some 400 updates (360MB to download).... among them were also security updates which surprised me a lot as i had set them to download and install automatically...... but viewing the logs it looked like the auto-update worked..... so for some reason it just didnt install all of them.... just a part.... bizarre?
[16:27] <rfirmin> i've tried various things, including commenting out dnsmasq in the network manager config, but resolv.conf still remains stubbornly empty. how can i debug/fix?
[16:27] <bekks> bobweaver: gpg is a program for encryption of personal messages.
[16:28] <neuron> currently installing linux-source-3.2.0
[16:28] <bobweaver> I know what gpg is
[16:28] <bekks> neuron: Install the kernel sources.
[16:28] <Kroach> bobweaver: there are definitely no errors in the script itself, it works when executed manually from the terminal, it doesn't when used from nautilus
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> edo89  there's also #ubuntu-kernel
[16:28] <neuron> yes installing the same
[16:28] <neuron> hope it will work
[16:28] <bekks> neuron: Not the headers, the sources.
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> neuron   there's also #ubuntu-kernel <-- addressed wrong guy, sorry
[16:28] <bobweaver> Kroach,  can not help with out know what is going on
[16:28] <neuron> sudo apt-get install kernel-sources
[16:28] <edo89> MonkeyDust can i stay here?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> edo89  my mistake, i addressed the wrong guy
[16:29] <neuron> is my command correct?
[16:29] <edo89> ok.... what do you think of my issue?
[16:29] <neuron> ok MonkeyDust I will also look on that channel
[16:29] <Kroach> bobweaver: I also created a test script with only the gpg command in there(with output redirected to a file), and when used from nautilus it doesn't give any output at all
[16:30] <yeats> neuron: what is the main problem you're trying to solve here?  there's probably a better way to do it, especially since you appear to be new to this
[16:30] <Kroach> bobweaver: the problem is GPG is not working when executed from nautilus
[16:30] <dr_willis> Kroach:  also seen were sh is used instead of bash. causeing isses with nautiloys scripts
[16:30] <neuron> basically I am trying to connect to internet through ethernet cable
[16:30] <neuron> auto eh0 not connecting
[16:30] <neuron> so I downloaded atheros driver
[16:30] <neuron> and was trying to compile it
[16:30] <bobweaver> Kroach,  I see that is not good, do you have any pluging's installed for file manager ?
[16:30] <Kroach> dr_willis: the first line of the script is #!/bin/bash, so it should use bash
[16:31] <bekks> neuron: It is "eth0" and not "eh0", and enter is not a punctuation sign.
[16:31] <bobweaver> Kroach,  like bzr
[16:31] <edo89> anybody could please comment on my issue?
[16:31] <hari_> installing latest java for firefox
[16:31] <bekks> neuron: Do you have a DHCP server?
[16:31] <rfirmin> in syslog i see the dhcp config come in, including a nameserver...however it is not written to resolv.conf... nobody have any ideas where i can fix?
[16:31] <neuron> I have set it to automatic
[16:31] <bekks> neuron: Do you have a DHCP server?
[16:31] <neuron> no
[16:31] <neuron> can you explain this to me?
[16:31] <bekks> Then setting your device to automatic will never work.
[16:32] <Kroach> bobweaver: I have Ubuntu One, Open in Terminal and seahorse integration plugins
[16:32] <bobweaver> Kroach,  like esp package "nautilus-bzr"
[16:32] <neuron> it was working on ubuntu 10.04
[16:32] <neuron> and when i had intel board
[16:32] <neuron> was working perfectly
[16:32] <const_antine> hi, I'm trying to mount a network drive. this command used to work but now doesn't: "mount -t hfs hostname:/home/user/sharedstuff"
[16:32] <Kroach> bobweaver: nautilus-bzr is not installed
[16:32] <bobweaver> Kroach,  is gpg hving alot of keys ?
[16:32] <dr_willis> Kroach:  add in some logging type commands perhaps. or set it to launch/run in a terminal so you can see any eror messages may help.
[16:32] <bekks> neuron: You need a DHCP server that leases an IP to your device, when having it set to autoconfiguration.
[16:32] <bekks> neuron: do you even have a eth0 device?
[16:32] <tozen> edo89: whats happened?
[16:32] <neuron> yes
[16:32] <bobweaver> Kroach,  what dr_willis  add      set x  to script
[16:32] <const_antine> version Ubuntu: 10.04
[16:33] <Kroach> bobweaver: no, only 2
[16:33] <bekks> neuron: Then pastebin the output of "ifconfig -a" please.
[16:33] <neuron> ok
[16:33] <hari_> will u pl help me to install java for firefox
[16:33] <edo89> thanks tozen..... i dont understand.... today when i updated the sytem i had some 400 updates (360MB to download).... among them were also security updates which surprised me a lot as i had set them to download and install automatically...... but viewing the logs it looked like the auto-update worked..... so for some reason it just didnt install all of them.... just a part.... bizarre?
[16:33] <bobweaver> Kroach,  add    set x      to top of script under shebang and see what is going on
[16:33] <bekks> !java | hari_
[16:33] <hari_> browser plugin
[16:34] <bekks> hari_: It is described in that article.
[16:34] <const_antine> I tried adding . to the end
[16:34] <neuron> ok I do
[16:34] <const_antine> $ sudo mount -t hfs printer-pc.pautina:/home/aptyp/Videos .
[16:34] <const_antine> mount: special device printer-pc.pautina:/home/aptyp/Videos does not exist
[16:34] <hari_> ok
[16:34] <Ankit> Win8 it is then
[16:34] <Ankit> later !
[16:35] <neuron> here it is
[16:35] <neuron> http://pastebin.com/4BsdPwbf
[16:35] <bekks> const_antine: You cant mount a remote HFS. Use NFS for sharing and mounting.
[16:35] <bobweaver> cya
[16:35] <tozen> edo89: well I dont see the problem, smtms Ive got the same. How do I solving it? Im using Systems Update Manager to finished updates
[16:35] <neuron> bekks here is the link
[16:35] <neuron> http://pastebin.com/4BsdPwbf
[16:35] <bekks> neuron: You just said that already.
[16:35] <const_antine> bekks, oh!
[16:35] <bekks> neuron: Do you have a cable plugged into eth0?
[16:36] <neuron> yes
[16:36] <const_antine> my handwriting 'n' looks like 'h'
[16:36] <neuron> currently I am running internet by connecting my android phone to my wireless modem and then usb tathering
[16:36] <bekks> neuron: And where is that cable in eth0 connected to?
[16:37] <neuron> lan1 port of my wiress modem
[16:37] <Kroach> bobweaver, dr_willis: I redirected the scripts output to a file and there seems to be no output at all
[16:37] <bekks> neuron: A modem does not offer DHCP, thats what a router does.
[16:37] <neuron> sorry it is a modem+router
[16:37] <Kroach> bobweaver, dr_willis: when set to launch from a terminal it works correctly
[16:37] <neuron> adsl2+
[16:37] <DrGrov> What is the easiest way in Dolphin to burn the Ubuntu 12.04 ISO? I haven't burned any ISO in ages.
[16:38] <const_antine> can I use this form in /etc/exports to declare shared dir open to every IP on 192.168.1-255 LAN? "/home/aptyp/Videos      192.168.1.5/60(rw,fsid=0,sync,no_subtree_check)"
[16:38] <bekks> DrGrov: Install k3b
[16:38] <const_antine> 60 is netmask
[16:38] <DrGrov> bekks: Okay, I got it. Where do I do it from there?
[16:38] <bobweaver> DrGrov, check out k3b ?
[16:38] <bekks> const_antine: "60" is an invalid netmask.
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> !burn > DrGrov
[16:38] <dr_willis> Kroach: dirty work around perhaps. have  the nautilus script call the other script   via   xterm -e scriptname
[16:38] <const_antine> bekks, isn't it 111100?
[16:39] <bekks> const_antine: Valid netmasks are in the rang of 0 to 32.
[16:39] <edo89> but if you set security updates to download and install automatically they should download and install automatically...... here the case is not this..... neither it is that none were downloaded and installed (which would have made me think auto-update wasnt workiing for some reason)..... the case here is that a part of the updates were downloaded and installed and a part were not........ how can you not see a problem i
[16:39] <dr_willis> Kroach:  you could patenin the scripts also for us.
[16:39] <const_antine> ok, then
[16:39] <const_antine> netmask 24
[16:39] <bekks> const_antine: Correct.
[16:39] <neuron> I am installing  linux-source-3.2.0 and will see if problen persists
[16:39] <bekks> const_antine: Be sure to restart the nfs server.
[16:40] <bekks> neuron: You dont need any sources, since you HAVE a working eth0 device.
[16:40] <CandleJack> http://172.16.85.130:80/My_Pictures how cute
[16:40] <neuron> earlier everything was working till I had intel board
[16:40] <bekks> neuron: All you need to fiure out is why your router doesnt offer a DHCP address.
[16:40] <bekks> *figure
[16:40] <rusfus> Hello everyone, I have a little problem, I can not get xubuntu to recognize my video camera samsung hyper dis. how can I do?
[16:40] <neuron> ok bekks
[16:40] <neuron> will look for the same
[16:41] <DrGrov> bobweaver: Yes, I got k3b.
[16:41] <edo89> anybody else willing to tackle my issue?
[16:41] <DrGrov> I read the PM I got from ubottu. Thanks. That wasn't too difficult to remember.
[16:41] <const_antine> bekks, 24 was prev.setting. something's still not right, here's a snippet from syslog: Dec  9 11:41:18 firaya-desktop mountd[1137]: refused mount request from 192.168.1.5 for /home/aptyp/Videos (/): not exported
[16:41] <opalepatrick> anyone notice icons not appearing in the dash?
[16:41] <Kroach> dr_willis:   the script I'm currently testing only has the shebang and one line: gpg -d filaname.pgp
[16:41] <neuron> bekks: thanks for your help , really appreciate it
[16:42] <edo89> is there an official ubuntu support person here?
[16:42] <const_antine> what is that very last backslash?
[16:42] <const_antine> (/)
[16:42] <bekks> const_antine: /24 is the only correct setting for the network 192.168.1.0-255
[16:42] <const_antine> ?
[16:42] <bobweaver> Kardos, like dr_willis said you can wrap it so it launchs i  terminal ? gnome-terminal -e  'bash -lc "/path/to/my/script "
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> edo89  this is the official support channle
[16:42] <bekks> const_antine: Something else is wrong with your NFS setup.
[16:42] <DrGrov> bobweaver: What is the actual option in k3b? Does it write it automatically right if I right-click the ISO file and select k3b?
[16:42] <Kardos> i said no such thing!
[16:42] <bobweaver> DrGrov, no I will take screenshot I might have to install
[16:43] <jeremiah__> I have a few questions i would like answered...
[16:43] <DrGrov> bobweaver: Got it. Thanks.
[16:43] <bekks> const_antine: nAnd do you use NFS3 or NFS4?
[16:43] <jeremiah__> involving ubuntu, and mint
[16:43] <edo89> yes but not all the people in here are official ubuntu support people (i am not for instance... :)
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> jeremiah__  ubuntu ok, but not mint
[16:43] <DrGrov> bobweaver: Why that kind of rude answer?
[16:43] <bekks> jeremiah__: The ubuntu questions may be answered.
[16:43] <const_antine> bekks, I don't know, how can I find out?
[16:43] <DrGrov> bobweaver: As I mentioned, I haven't written all too many ISO's in the pst.
[16:43] <DrGrov> *past
[16:43] <jeremiah__> Well, what i am wondering, how close is mint to ubuntu?
[16:43] <bekks> const_antine: By examining your configuration.
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> edo89  there's also paid support
[16:44] <bekks> jeremiah__: We have no clue how far they are :)
[16:44] <jeremiah__> like, can i use ubuntu commands in mint, without any problems?
[16:44] <edo89> MonkeyDust: i'm poor :)
[16:44] <DrGrov> "Write image to disc with k3b", ah. That wasn't too hard.
[16:44] <ratz> Hi erveryone
[16:44] <jeremiah__> and would i still be able to use ubuntu forums, and not have any issues?
[16:44] <DrGrov> Thanks bobweaver, bekks, MonkeyDust for the kind help
[16:45] <OerHeks> edo89, if you select auto updates, looking for them every 24 hours, you have to wait 24 hours to see if it worked, but if you didn't update after installing the system, that is no issue.
[16:45] <jeremiah__> better question, is there a mint server/forum?
[16:45] <opalepatrick> anyone have an issue with icons for selected apps not appearing (or is just me?)
[16:45] <bobweaver> DrGrov, I did not think I was rude!  sometimes a pic is worth a 100s words   http://imagebin.org/238658
[16:45] <bekks> jeremiah__: Ubuntu does not support Mint, nor there is any form of guarantee that anything from ubuntu will work in mint too.
[16:45] <opalepatrick> in unity dash*
[16:45] <jeremiah__> ah.
[16:45] <DrGrov> bobweaver: Ah, you meant like that.Sorry about that. I was thinking you were mocking the burning as taking a screenshot.
[16:45] <bekks> !mint | jeremiah__
[16:45] <jeremiah__> i thought mint came from ubuntu though
[16:45] <edo89> thank you OerHeks..... can i go private with you for a sec? (just so that i dont get confused with all the msgs)
[16:46] <Rikplay> HOW can i do update-rc.d from outise the OS as i will not load
[16:46] <bekks> Which ubuntu do you use?
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> jeremiah__  we don't know what the mint developpers changed to make it 'mint'
[16:46] <Tech936> Urgent Anyone Know if/how i can geo locate a local Ip as its accumulating traffic but I cant seem to find it message me with details
[16:46] <jeremiah__> So, best if i stuck to ubuntu...
[16:46] <bobweaver> opalepatrick,  you can run   unity --replace and and watch terminal to see why things are not loading ?
[16:46] <Rikplay> bekks: im sure its 10.4?
[16:46] <yeats> jeremiah__: or use mint support ;-)
[16:46] <dr_willis> Kroach: what is gpg -d foo.gpg  supposed to do?
[16:47] <bekks> Rikplay: There never was a 10.4 - there were 10.04 and 10.10
[16:47] <OerHeks> edo89, no, i prefer to stay in this channel, so others can help too.
[16:47] <bekks> Rikplay: Maybe just check using "lsb_release -a"
[16:47] <jeremiah__> yeats, i am so used to ubuntu, i was hoping they would be compatible so i wouldn't have to learn it again
[16:47] <jeremiah__> i guess not
[16:47] <bekks> jeremiah__: Then stick with Ubuntu.
[16:47] <Rikplay> bekks:  so it was 10.04 cannot access the system hence the question any ideas?
[16:47] <Kroach> dr_willis:  pop up a seahorse passphrase entry dialog and then decrypt foo.gpg
[16:47] <jeremiah__> i guess so...
[16:48] <const_antine> bekks, i see one nfsd4 and a whole bunch of nfsd daemons on my server
[16:48] <yeats> jeremiah__: depends on what you mean by "compatible", but suit yourself
[16:48] <bekks> Rikplay: "cannot access the system" means what exactly?
[16:48] <const_antine> thats not much of an answer really
[16:48] <const_antine> hmm
[16:48] <jeremiah__> ubuntu has been anoying me lately...
[16:48] <edo89> ok then..... could you please explain to me again what you said before... not sure i understood.....
[16:48] <bekks> const_antine: you still have to configure wether you want to use NFS3 or NFS4.
[16:48] <jrib> !who | edo89
[16:48] <jeremiah__> yeats, i mean as in commands, i would have to learn new ones
[16:48] <opalepatrick> cheers bobweaver - its a strange one because they load sometimes (usually if they have loaded previously)
[16:48] <dr_willis> Kroach:  and that file foo.gpg is in the current nautilus directory you used the menu scriot from?
[16:48] <Rikplay> bekks: ubuntu will not start i need to remove some startup programms fromn outside the OS in my case apache2 webserver
[16:49] <bobweaver> opalepatrick, what icons or are they random ?
[16:49] <jeremiah__> one last question
[16:49] <edo89> ubottu how do i use !tab ?
[16:49] <bekks> "will not start" is a bit too generic - what exactly happens?
[16:49] <bobweaver> !details | opalepatrick  take this lightly plz but
[16:49] <gUs_Gus> speak spanish
[16:49] <jrib> edo89: you can type "jri", and then press tab to complete my name for example.
[16:49] <jeremiah__> when burning a linux os to a disc, do i burn an image, or the files?
[16:49] <yeats> jeremiah__: linux is linux, basically across the board, meaning that *most* commands that work on ubuntu would work on another distro - I suggest you run other distros in virtualbox or dual boot to explore before committing
[16:49] <DJones> !es | gUs_Gus
[16:49] <Rikplay> bekks: the boot stalls at "starting webserver apache2"
[16:49] <yeats> jeremiah__: image
[16:50] <bekks> jeremiah__: An image is being burned as image.
[16:50] <OerHeks> edo89, if you did not update after install, those updates were waiting until you do.
[16:50] <bobweaver> depends if it is arm or not
[16:50] <jeremiah__> yeats,  i can dual boot to linux distros?
[16:50] <edo89> jrib: ok thanks
[16:50] <Kroach> dr_willis: no it's in another directory
[16:50] <jeremiah__> mk
[16:50] <OerHeks> edo89, from now on your updates will install automatic
[16:50] <yeats> jeremiah__: yes - you should google "multiboot linux"
[16:50] <stef1a> does anyone know how i could automate the process of 1. disabling my Internet connection at a specific time, 2. not allowing me to enable it, and 3. re-enabling it at a specific time?
[16:50] <jeremiah__> mk, thanks!
[16:50] <jeremiah__> i guess i will try that out
[16:50] <dr_willis> Kroach:  sounds like thats the issue. try using the full path
[16:51] <opalepatrick> if it happens bobweaver it is any app that i search for and has only happened since 12.10 both as an update and subsequently as a new install
[16:51] <bobweaver> stef1a, write a sscript ? ifdown and what not
[16:51] <opalepatrick> if I click where the icon is supposed to be, it launches
[16:51] <jeremiah__> thanks for the answers,
[16:51] <jeremiah__> you all have a good day!
[16:51] <escott> stef1a, the not allowing you to enable it would be harder, but it could be done. cron job that takes the internet down, removes you from sudo group, and then brings the internet back up later and adds you to sudo group
[16:51] <alexandra> ciao
[16:51] <alexandra> list!
[16:51] <edo89> OerHeks: no that is not the case...... for some reason only a part of the security updates install automatically..... this is my case here......
[16:51] <bobweaver> opalepatrick,  what is   apt-cache policy unity ?   Please pastebin that
[16:51] <gUs_Gus> GRacias djones
[16:52] <Kroach> dr_willis: I'm using the full path, and as I said, when executed from the terminal instead of nautilus it works
[16:52] <dr_willis> alexandra:  ni warez here
[16:52] <Zael> can anybody recommend a podcast application?
[16:52] <bobweaver> !it | alexandra
[16:52] <stef1a> escott: but what if i want to be able to sudo while the Internet is off?
[16:52] <escott> Kroach, there may be some gnupg specific env variables in your terminal path not in your Xsession path.
[16:52] <dr_willis> Kroach: i did not see how thatcomnand in a nautilus script  is using the full path.
[16:52] <OerHeks> edo89, then there was a kenrel update in between, which needed a reboot?
[16:53] <escott> stef1a, if you could sudo you could bring the internet back up.
[16:53] <Kroach> dr_willis: my bad, I should've mentioned that
[16:53] <opalepatrick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1421377/ bobweaver
[16:53] <bobweaver> Kroach,  gnome-terminal -e  'bash -lc "/path/to/my/script.sh"'
[16:53] <bobweaver> add it
[16:53] <edo89> OerHeks:  computer was probably rebooted, shutdown and turned on,  hundreds of times in the past months.......
[16:54] <opalepatrick> hang on bobweaver
[16:54] <bobweaver> opalepatrick,  that was not for you
[16:54] <edo89> OerHeks: auto-update didnt work, or let's say worked partly......
[16:54] <const_antine> bekks, give me a hint. would it be a server config or a client config?
[16:54] <bobweaver> opalepatrick,  sorry wrong person that is not apt-cache polict :)
[16:54] <bekks> const_antine: Both.
[16:55] <OerHeks> edo89, then i have no clue why automatic update does not work proper.
[16:55] <opalepatrick> ha
[16:55] <bobweaver> Kroach,  that way gnome-terminal launchs and runs script
[16:56] <DrGrov> How would I best do the partioning in 12.04? I got a 32GB SSD drive and a 250GB normal drive. I thought to use the 32GB SSD for only root and something else. Any good advice and how about filesystem?
[16:56] <bobweaver> Kroach,  kinda a dirty work around but a work around
[16:56] <EvilDMP> Im trying to put Lubuntu on to my Imac G3 and was wondering which type i should choose as it only has 128 MB of RAM, any ideas?
[16:56] <bobweaver> !partition | DrGrov
[16:57] <escott> !ppc | EvilDMP
[16:57] <stef1a> escott: is there any way to prevent a command from being entered, even if i'm sudo?
[16:57] <escott> stef1a, not really
[16:57] <stef1a> or, is there a way to create another group that can do exactly what sudo does, except for certain commands?
[16:57] <escott> stef1a, yes but its hard to lock down
[16:57] <DrGrov> bobweaver: So I really do not need more than /, /swp and /home?
[16:58] <bobweaver> DrGrov,  I am not sure what you are trying to do ?
[16:58] <dr_willis> EvilDMP: i gave up on getting a decent linux install on my imacdv.  it was just underpowered
[16:58] <EvilDMP> ubottu: thanks but which version would you reccommend as i have very little RAM.
[16:58] <jd_68> hey whats goin on?
[16:58] <bobweaver> DrGrov,  I am also not the best person for partitioning . I am more a c++ QT/qml dude
[16:58] <edo89> yeps OerHeks you are not the onlye one.... thanks anywasy for listening to me..... ok i will forget about that as it seems nobody has an answer....... so another question.... say you don't do security updates for a long period, say 4 months..... in these 4 months the computer is used regularly every day for common tasks including surfing the internet...... how high is the risk that something bad happened? i mean that s
[16:58] <DrGrov> bobweaver: I am trying to keep it working well. Does the partioning and file system affect much on performance?
[16:59] <escott> stef1a, see "man sudoers"
[16:59] <RickardT> Hi all, I am trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and it stoped midway. When I try again get an error like " Remove paket in bad condition ..  "linux-image-2.6.38-15-generic" it is in ininkonsekvent tillstånd och behöver installeras om, men inget arkiv kan hittas för det. Vill du ta bort detta paket nu för att fortsätta?"
[16:59] <Kroach> bobweaver: the terminal closes immediately after printing: "/etc/profile.d/rvm.sh: line 67: __rvm_add_to_path: command not found" and "You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key(...)"
[16:59] <bobweaver> Kroach,  can you pastebin script ?
[16:59] <DrGrov> bobweaver: I was actually thinking about sorting it up nice in order for maximum performance so to speak. Not sure that it makes any difference.
[17:00] <Guest43383> hello friends, I am trying to get LLVM up and running.
[17:00] <Guest43383> has anyone used it?
[17:00] <DrGrov> Anyone got any good input on partioning and file system choosing? I am eager to make it work as good as possible. I previously only used root, swap and home. Only Ubuntu running.
[17:00] <bobweaver> DrGrov,  again I am not the best partition dude. But I am sure that others can help
[17:00] <DrGrov> bobweaver: Thanks for steering me in the right direction again :)
[17:01] <bobweaver> np DrGrov  wish I could help more
[17:01] <dr_willis> DrGrov: thats about all i ever need
[17:01] <Kroach> bobweaver: the script I'm testing now is a one-liner: gpg -d path/to/file.pgp
[17:01] <edo89> so another question.... say you don't do security updates for a long period, say 4 months..... in these 4 months the computer is used regularly every day for common tasks including surfing the internet...... how high is the risk that something bad happened? i mean that security of the comp was breached? of course i know i cannot get a precise answer to this question.... i will be happy with a rough answer.....
[17:01] <DrGrov> bobweaver: No worries :)
[17:01] <escott> DrGrov, there are some ssd specific filesystems, but since the firmware doesn't present the real device im not sure what kind of difference it would make
[17:01] <Guest43383> I am unable to set environment variable.
[17:01] <jrib> edo89: depends on your users :)
[17:02] <jrib> edo89: and the vulnerabilities...
[17:02] <DrGrov> dr_willis: I always put root as primary. How about home, that is primary or logical?
[17:02] <dr_willis> edo89:  just one user? rather low. on a college with 1000+ users. perghaps high
[17:02] <DrGrov> escott: Ah, then it makes no difference apparently at all which one I choose. I was interested in using XFS instead of EXT3.
[17:03] <dr_willis> DrGrov:  disent matter. i use all primaris
[17:03] <hari_> will u advise about internet download manager programme
[17:03] <escott> DrGrov, any COW fs will have some kind of SSD specific mode, but the firmware COWs everything anyways so...
[17:03] <edo89> jrib: say user is like the common user (just uses internet for email, read the news, things like that...)
[17:03] <i3luefire> http://pastebin.com/EEMDhFzh why does an upgrade want to remove my kernel?
[17:04] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Okay, primary it is. Thanks. Do you know any difference between EXT3 and XFS in terms of speed? I have enough hardware to play 1080p but it stutters from time to time. Could the file system choice be of significant matter?
[17:04] <grkblood> does anyone know why youtube buffers a lot on my ubuntu laptop but not my win7 laptop. its not a connection issue and hardware wise the ubuntu laptop is much better.
[17:04] <hari_> internet download manager programme........
[17:04] <jd_68> what irc client are you all using?
[17:04] <i3luefire> xchat
[17:04] <edo89> jrib: is there a way i can check if anything of that sort happened?
[17:05] <DJones> !best | jd_68 You're probably better asking that in #ubuntu-bots to see what the best application for any given purpose is,
[17:05] <DrGrov> escott: Ok. Then I just keep it like it is.
[17:05] <MarderIII> irssi
[17:05] <jrib> edo89: read the changelogs for the security updates you have. See if anything is relevant to your setup.  There are some programs you can run to search for rootkits, see: rkhunter
[17:05] <King1534> HELP NEEDED ASAP GUYS
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> caps
[17:05] <DJones> !ask | King1534
[17:06] <bobweaver> Kroach,  this is what I would do . first like We all said before put set x  for debugging , make you one line command into a var         decript=$(one liner)    then make a if statement to see if there is errors so if there is a error it ptints to screen maybe with notify-send
[17:06] <King1534> sorry ubottu..but no one's been replying?
[17:06] <bekks> !bot | King1534
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> King1534  as soon as someone has the answer, they will try to help
[17:07] <Kroach> bobweaver: I already tried printing the output with notify-send, it's empty
[17:07] <DJones> King1534: Doesn't appear that you've actually asked a question yet apart from "HELP NEEDED ASAP GUYS"
[17:07] <hari_> will answer anybody about internet dowload manager
[17:07] <King1534> *DJones: I am trying to install LLVM framework to build a compiler. In one of the step it need to set up an enviroment variable..the export command
[17:07] <KScorp> s
[17:07] <bobweaver> Kroach,  wait you have to enter in pass for this ?
[17:08] <King1534> Sorry I am slow on typing
[17:08] <bekks> King1534: And whats your actuall question?
[17:08] <edo89> jrib: say after checking what you said and running rkhunter everything seems ok...... can i stop worrying about it? or am i still better off reinstalling my whole system?
[17:08] <bobweaver> Kroach,  you are using "sleep" to make sure that script does not exit right away
[17:09] <hari_> internet download manager for ubuntu?
[17:09] <King1534> how to do this:when I run the export command:
[17:09] <King1534> sorry: How to do this:to add the install/bin path to your ~/.bashrc file.
[17:09] <King1534>      export PATH=${LLVM_HOME}/install/bin:$PATH
[17:09] <bobweaver> Kroach,  again I said that you should be making a if statement so if fail then notify-send"this is failing "
[17:09] <jrib> edo89: you're probably fine unless you run random things from the internet.  Again, you'd have to check what the security updates actually were
[17:09] <bekks> King1534: Open a texteditor, add that line to your ~/.bashrc and save the file.
[17:09] <King1534> I don't know how to edit the .bashrc file
[17:10] <escott> King1534, still not sure what the question is
[17:10] <King1534> where is the file located
[17:10] <escott> King1534, with a text editor
[17:10] <bobweaver> Kroach,  for somereason I have the felling that you are not doing any of that
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> King1534  nano .bashrc
[17:10] <MarderIII> hari_: don't know about a download manager for ubuntu, but you could look at CLI app "wget"
[17:10] <escott> King1534, in $HOME
[17:11] <King1534> so this command has opened a file: nano .bashrc
[17:11] <King1534> is it the correct file?
[17:11] <edo89> jrib: ok thanks, feel better.... does 4 months sound like way too much time to go without updates?
[17:11] <escott> King1534, if you were in $HOME at the time yes. nano ~/.bashrc would be the correct if you werent
[17:11] <bekks> King1534: Exit that editor and run: nano ~/.bashrc
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> King1534  rather: nano ~/.bashrc
[17:12] <const_antine> bekks, i've managed to fix the shared dir issue by restarting the nfs server daemon
[17:12] <jrib> edo89: well it's nicer to just click ok when update-manager tells you about updates
[17:12] <const_antine> now i find that rw key for shared dir is not enough to allow for adding/removing files
[17:12] <EvilDMP> Which version of lubuntu should i install on my IMac G3 it only has 128 MB of RAM.
[17:12] <tagabag> ahh hello worm
[17:12] <King1534> ok great..thanks guys..and I should just paste this line write?export PATH=${LLVM_HOME}/install/bin:$PATH ||and pres :wq?
[17:13] <bekks> King1534: nano is not vi, so :wq will not work in nano.
[17:13] <King1534> then what will work?
[17:13] <jd_68> what irc client are you all using
[17:13] <bekks> King1534: Take a look at the both lines at the bootom of your display, when running nano.
[17:13] <Kroach> bobweaver: your feeling is correct, I didn't do any of that, I know it's failing because it doesn't work, the exit status of gpg command is 2, how does one use sleep to make sure that script does not exit right away?
[17:14] <edo89> jrib: thanks :) bye
[17:14] <bekks> jd_68: How is that a support question? :)
[17:14] <King1534> *bekks: meaning what lines? and what should I look for?
[17:14] <bobweaver> Kroach,  example : gpg -d path/to/file.pgp
[17:14] <bobweaver> woops
[17:14] <Dreaman> jd_68 xchat :)
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> King1534  are you a developper?
[17:14] <Justin_jtb7rmv> hi guys
[17:15] <bobweaver> Kroach,  sorry about that, example :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1421426/
[17:15] <King1534> MonkeyDust: New to this field
[17:15] <bekks> King1534: run: nano ~/.bashrc and you will see two lines at the bottom of your display.
[17:15] <MarderIII> Dreaman: is it me or is jd_68 repeating that question?
[17:15] <RickardT> I am trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and it stoped midway. When I try again get an error like " Remove paket in bad condition ..  "linux-image-2.6.38-15-generic" in inconsistent state. Ubuntu offers help but fails in removing it. And I am stranded. Where could I get more informtaion?
[17:16] <neuron> bekks: are you there?
[17:16] <EvilDMP> Does anyone know which version of lubuntu I should install on my IMac G3 it only has 128 MB of RAM
[17:16] <King1534> : It displays Gethelp write out and stuff..is that what you are refering to?
[17:16] <Eagleman> Error starting domain: unsupported configuration: spicevmc not supported in this QEMU binary
[17:16] <Eagleman> How can i get a higher version of qemu?
[17:16] <Kroach> bobweaver: I get the output "seems to work"
[17:16] <bekks> King1534: Yes. And it shows you the key combos for the displayed items.
[17:16] <bobweaver> Kroach,  but if you are using which I think this is what ight be going on here. gpg to decript fies jyou are going to need alot more then just that.  Like you could just make a easy UI with zenity or something like that
[17:16] <const_antine> nevermind
[17:16] <const_antine> i know why
[17:16] <const_antine> file permissions
[17:17] <bobweaver> Kroach,  then the the ifstatement works ad so does command you are going to have to look more at the command that you are using
[17:17] <neuron> bekks: thanks mate. I configured DHCP manually and now internet is working
[17:17] <MarderIII> Eagleman: download source compile, and make own package with for example "installwatch"
[17:17] <neuron> configured eth0
[17:17] <bobweaver> Kroach,  plz tell us in detail what it is that you are trying to do
[17:17] <King1534> oh great to ^o will write out equivalent to save write?
[17:17] <bobweaver> Kroach,  can not give advice If I have no clue what end goal is
[17:17] <bobweaver> :)
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> RickardT  it may be because 11.04 is too old (eol), faster, easier and cleaner would be to fresh install
[17:18] <Eagleman> are trere easier methods?
[17:18] <MarderIII> Eagleman: and oh.. remove old package of course
[17:18] <neuron> I have a question for ubuntu 12.04 as I am using it, I find it sometimes slow, whenever I run my java programs where is use jetty or tomcat server, load average goes high
[17:19] <King1534> :I am still in the editor: it doesnt save the file: Which option should I use?
[17:19] <MarderIII> Eagleman: You could install it directly after compiling, but that messes up your installation
[17:19] <neuron> it is an core2duo, 7200rpm, 2gb ddr2
[17:19] <thinkinbee> how can i start working on bug tracking for ubuntu or other linux flavours
[17:19] <thinkinbee> >
[17:20] <bobweaver> thinkinbee,  like fixing bugs ?
[17:20] <thinkinbee> yes bobweaver
[17:20] <RickardT> Shure makes reson to fresh install. But have made work that I rather not do again.  What is this "linux-image-2.6.38-15-generic"? is it part of core?
[17:20] <bobweaver> thinkinbee,  yoou know abou Harvest.ubuntu.com  ?
[17:20] <King1534>  bekk:I am still in the editor: it doesnt save the file: Which option should I use?
[17:20] <bekks> King1534: The one called "^O Write Out".
[17:21] <thinkinbee> bobweaver nope pal i just entered the ubuntu world
[17:21] <MarderIII> Eagleman: Oops..should be program checkinstall _AND_ installwatch to make a package
[17:21] <bobweaver> thinkinbee,  what kinda bugs do you want to work on ?  like what are you skills ?
[17:21] <Kroach> bobweaver: this is the main script http://paste.ubuntu.com/1421442/
[17:21] <King1534>  bekk: Its lame of me asking but should I write :^O write out + Enter?
[17:22] <bekks> King1534: No. You should press ctrl and o
[17:22] <dr_willis> King1534:  thats  ctrl uppercase O
[17:22] <Kroach> bobweaver: what I want to do is to read username and password from a gpg-encrypted file instead storing them inside the script
[17:22] <King1534>  bekk dr_willis: Thanks guys
[17:22] <thinkinbee> bobweaver i am just a average guy you can say with little knowledege in c , c++ and bash
[17:23] <dr_willis> nano needs to be replaced with sonthibg more dos-editorvlike with menus
[17:23] <King1534> I will try building
[17:23] <bobweaver> thinkinbee,  there are bugs tagged as bitsized sometimes
[17:24] <const_antine> Can anyone recommend a copy tool for large volume data? with progress tracking
[17:24] <thinkinbee> bobweaver i will see . am i supposed to visit harvest.ubuntu.com
[17:24] <dr_willis> thinkinbee:  check out the 1000 papercuts project also. they fix little bugs. ;-)
[17:24] <thinkinbee> >
[17:24] <MarderIII> dr_willis: whats wrong with vi(m)? <tong in cheek>
[17:25] <bobweaver> thinkinbee,  and what dr_willis said is also good there is also the Ubuntu packaging guide tha you might like to read
[17:25] <thinkinbee> sure dr_willis and bobweaver i will look up to your advice
[17:25] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do u setting up gammamoo server in linux
[17:25] <dr_willis> !find gammamoo
[17:26] <bobweaver> thinkinbee,  here is packaging guide http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
[17:26] <bobweaver> thinkinbee,  thanks ! you are awesome
[17:26] <thinkinbee> bobweaver you too are awesome man :-)
[17:27] <_Tristan> Can anybody suggest a document editor that isn't ugly?
[17:27] <bobweaver> Kroach,  I am afraid that I can not help with that bash script sorry some one else will though maybe try in #bash ?
[17:27] <foggalong> _Tristan, what sort of editor you looking for?
[17:27] <dr_willis> i prefer functional over looks..
[17:27] <bobweaver> _Tristan,  add plugin's to gedit ?
[17:27] <foggalong> _Tristan A MS Word style thing or for editing code?
[17:28] <bobweaver> _Tristan,  editor or IDE ?
[17:28] <thinkinbee> _Tristan why not xemacs or gedit ?
[17:28] <Kroach> bobweaver: ok, thanks
[17:28] <_Tristan> libreoffice without the windows 98 ui, or abiword without the left-aligned page at 100% zoom
[17:28] <dr_willis> geany. abiword. lyx
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> _Tristan  to edit what kind of files?
[17:28] <_Tristan> office document editor
[17:28] <Lord_Iron> Need help! Everytime I install ubuntu on a cd it installs, then asks me to take out the installation media, it restarts the computor and its not loaded, do I need to burn another disc and try again or what? PLease help!
[17:29] <bobweaver> !md5sum | Lord_Iron  you have checked the....
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> _Tristan  there's gnome-office, star-office, maybe more
[17:29] <Lord_Iron> Good idea
[17:29] <dr_willis> Lord_Iron:  or its just the grub menu having issues
[17:29] <foggalong> _Tristan Right. Yeah, the interfaces aren't usually beautiful. It's just something that tends to come with free software (Generally, not a a rule)
[17:29] <thinkinbee> Lord_Iron check for the MD5sum
[17:30] <irishmac1022> hi, i just installed ubuntu livebootable onto my flash drive and i used Unetbootin, i ran it and i get a wireless unavailable when i try to connect to wifi, what do I do?
[17:30] <Lord_Iron> k.
[17:30] <_Tristan> foggalong: yeah, I know, I'm just hoping there's something that won't make my eyes bleed
[17:30] <Raion> Maybe your wireless needs a driver...
[17:30] <Raion> Better to go with ethernet while installing...
[17:30] <irishmac1022> i am not able to do ethernet
[17:31] <foggalong> _Tristan: Haha, yeah I got ya. Libre Office is the nicest I've been able to find. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful there.
[17:31] <escott> MonkeyDust, star-office.... is this the tour of historic office projects
[17:31] <dr_willis> this is when a cheap ubuntu compatiable wifi dongle is handy.
[17:31] <_Tristan> I just don't get why it looks so... redmond.
[17:31] <_Tristan> Why not just use native ui components like a civilized suite?
[17:31] <Raion> Hmmm... Then I suggest install without Internet and then get a driver from other pc for your wifi card and then install it on your ubuntu....
[17:32] <irishmac1022> i am currently on a netbook
[17:32] <escott> _Tristan, that is common for cross platform projects
[17:32] <_Tristan> I know, but I still want to rant about it
[17:32] <dr_willis> my netbooks wifi have worked.. perhaps the switch is just off.
[17:33] <dr_willis> bbl
[17:33] <Raion> Hmmm... Did u try the live bootable usb?
[17:33] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do u setting up GammaMOO 1.8.3 RC4 server in linux
[17:33] <irishmac1022> i did do the live bootable
[17:33] <irishmac1022> Raion: ^
[17:34] <Raion> I see, and from the live environment you are unable to connect to wifi...?
[17:34] <irishmac1022> no i am not
[17:34] <irishmac1022> i used Unetbootin and chose try ubuntu without installins
[17:34] <Raion> Hmmm... Perhaps your wifi is off from the hardware...
[17:35] <Raion> I see...
[17:35] <irishmac1022> what shall i do?
[17:35] <MarderIII> irishmac1022: unetbootin sometimes causes the live iso's to work incorrectly, had the same experience with puppy linux
[17:35] <blondielegs> hey fudge are you here?
[17:35] <foggalong> _Tristan: In the end I guess I've just got used to it looking a little outdated. Have you tried looking for a theme plugin?
[17:35] <blondielegs> can i message you
[17:35] <blondielegs> i gotta question
[17:36] <_Tristan> foggalong: themes, eh?
[17:36] <MarderIII> irishmac1022: installed puppy to usb from live cd and everything worked ok. Just a thought...
[17:36] <Guest93711> Hey does anyone know how to get  monochromatic themes ?
[17:36] <irishmac1022> MarderIII: my netbook has no cd drive
[17:37] <Raion> Don't use unetbootin, make a live usb and then try, that gives the proper results...
[17:37] <Guest93711> Anyone ?
[17:37] <foggalong> _Tristan: It might be worth a look. I don't even know if they exist, but most Linux things can be pulled apart and neatened up a little bit
[17:37] <irishmac1022> how do i do the live usb method
[17:37] <irishmac1022> ?
[17:37] <Raion> Wait a second...
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> !themes > Guest93711
[17:37] <MarderIII> irishmac1022: then your out of luck. find a usb-cdrom or try another live-cd with unetbootin
[17:38] <Catbuntu> ohai
[17:38] <locojay> hi anyone running ubuntu hvm?
[17:38] <locojay> via xen
[17:38] <irocksu> exit
[17:38] <irishmac1022> MarderIII: Raion is helping
[17:38] <MarderIII> irishmac1022: ok. succes!
[17:38] <locojay> i have an intel 3000 but only get a 1024*768 resolution
[17:39] <irishmac1022> MarderIII: he is finding me a different live usb method
[17:39] <darkhalo117> Does ubuntu come with a diagnostic tool for HDD's?
[17:39] <Raion> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows for making live usb...
[17:39] <DJones> darkhalo117: smartmontools
[17:39] <darkhalo117> Thanks
[17:40] <irishmac1022> Raion: thank you!
[17:40] <darkhalo117> That should work with my raid configuration right?
[17:40] <_Tristan> suite jesus. libreoffice writer alone looks awful, but when I installed the suite it looked good again.
[17:40] <DJones> darkhalo117: For more info, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[17:40] <Link9001> So any chromatic themes ?
[17:40] <darkhalo117> Again thnx
[17:40] <escott> darkhalo117, unless your hardware doesnt report smart data
[17:40] <IdleOne> !themes | Link9001  have a look for yourself
[17:42] <blondielegs> is there anyone here who can help me fix my computer. its stating that there is a error with the Ubuntu 12.04 and its reporting a crash
[17:42] <blondielegs> if anyone can help can you please send me a private message
[17:42] <foggalong> _Tristan: Any luck?
[17:44] <DJones> blondielegs: You'll bet better off giving details of your problem in the channel, if you speak to one person in private, if they go off line, you'll be left with no reply, plus in channel helps other people learn as well
[17:45] <blondielegs> when i start my computer it says mem timing table lenth unknown
[17:46] <blondielegs> does that mean anything to anyone
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> blondielegs  is that before or after the grub menu?
[17:47] <blondielegs> after
[17:47] <KI4RO> .
[17:47] <escott> blondielegs, it means the kernel doesn't know how long the mem timing table is
[17:47] <blondielegs> what is a mem timing table
[17:47] <blondielegs> how do i fix it
[17:48] <escott> blondielegs, it means your bios is in some way broken. the kernel should pick a conservative timing (presumably the first entry)
[17:48] <Dandylion> hi all, can you give some examples on how much space you assign to the main Ubuntu partition to make room for a couple of years updates, etc.? What is a good ("enough"...) size?
[17:48] <blondielegs> ok how do i fix it
[17:48] <Dandylion> (for Ubuntu 12.04)
[17:48] <blondielegs> and how bad is it
[17:48] <diosdelanet> Alguien me puede ayudar
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> blondielegs  i read here, it may be due to overclocking
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> !es
[17:49] <rk> hdmi sound does not work in my hp pavilion laptop with ubuntu 12.04. Can anybody help me?
[17:49] <escott> blondielegs, you could look for a bios update from your manufacturer, but as long as the system works its not a problem. you may not be getting the best performance but otherwise if it works it works
[17:49] <blondielegs> i do not know much on how my computer works. what is overclocking
[17:49] <blondielegs> oh ok
[17:49] <blondielegs> cool thank you
[17:50] <darkhalo117> If I get "error setting up gfxboot" and I get a bunch of numbers with "error 2" on a live boot, what does that mean?
[17:50] <darkhalo117> Besides the graphics aren't loading properly
[17:50] <irishmac1022> Raion: so, after ive installed it onto my flash drive using pen drive, what option will i choose when i boot it?
[17:50] <DJones> escott: blondielegs Just looking at that "mem timing table" error, most hits seem to relate to the nouveau driver, don't know if that helps, its not something I've come across
[17:51] <Mensch-Maschine> Hi, eveyone
[17:51] <hashiish> http://jungletrain.net/128kbps.m3u
[17:51] <hashiish> Hi
[17:52] <diosdelanet> Nesecito ayuda en algo me podrian ayudar ho dar informacion?
[17:52] <escott> !es | diosdelanet
[17:52] <rk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1421520/ this is aplay -l output... i have selected hdmi in sound configuration window but i only achieve sound stop playing from speakers and no sound from hdmi :S
[17:53] <Mensch-Maschine> Might not be ubuntu-related, but "PXE-E01: PCI Vendor and Device ID do not match" at boot, is that likey to mean “dead ethernet controller" ?
[17:53] <diosdelanet> ubottu: thanks
[17:54] <blondielegs> escott: the manufacturer of my computer or ubuntu?
[17:54] <escott> blondielegs, the hardware
[17:55] <blondielegs> which piece of hardware
[17:55] <escott> blondielegs, as DJones pointed out there are multiple pieces of hardware which might have timing tables. without more context from dmesg its hard to say what hardware is confusing what software component
[17:55] <blondielegs> oh
[17:55] <blondielegs> yesterdaY
[17:56] <blondielegs> MY graphics card freaked
[17:56] <blondielegs> out
[17:56] <blondielegs> cause i was trying to update the drivers and then it went into low graphics mode and was stuck
[17:56] <blondielegs> fudge helped me fix it
[17:56] <blondielegs> i can see my desktop now
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> blondielegs  don't hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache
[17:57] <irishmac1022> bye all, wish me luck, tried a new live boot usb method. Hopefully i will see in the Ubuntu universe next time
[17:57] <const_antine> Is it possible to set shared NFS directory to adopt mounting user's UID and GID?
[17:57] <escott> const_antine, you can supply a mapping table to the nfs mount
[17:58] <const_antine> mapping table?
[17:58] <const_antine> is that a list of directories?
[17:58] <blondielegs> sorry whats getting a headache? the message server here
[17:59] <t4nk584> anyone have any experience with loading a drobo share via fstab?
[17:59] <escott> const_antine, /etc/nfs.map evidently
[17:59] <yeats> !enter | blondielegs
[17:59] <yeats> blondielegs: ^^that's what MonkeyDust meant, I believe
[18:00] <blondielegs> sorry im knew didnt mean to upset you guys
[18:00] <blondielegs> thanks for your help
[18:02] <escott> t4nk584, i imagine its not any different than any other kind of share. you just have to pick your protocol and go from there. drobo should support a lot of protocols
[18:02] <escott> const_antine, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man5/exports.5.html see the section on   User ID Mapping
[18:03] <Eagleman> Error starting domain: unsupported configuration: spicevmc not supported in this QEMU binary   How do i compile QEMU myself and what should i look out for?
[18:03] <ikonia> you really don't want to do that
[18:03] <ikonia> compiling qemu is not a trivial thing, especially to get it laid out/intergrated with the ubuntu setup
[18:03] <_Tristan> foggalong: yes, I just had to install the libreoffice suite instead of just the writer. Apparently the suite has the proper theming stuff in it.
[18:03] <const_antine> ohh
[18:03] <const_antine> ty escott man file doesnt have that
[18:04] <Eagleman> SO what should i do ..
[18:04] <escott> const_antine, that is hardy so see if there is a precise version of that, but i can't imagine nfs has changed that much
[18:04] <ikonia> Eagleman: what do you actually want to do ?
[18:04] <yeats> Eagleman: see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/spice
[18:05] <escott> Eagleman, isn't spice a redhat product? you might try fedora
[18:05] <Eagleman> I want to be able to change my resolution in my windows guest OS to 1920x1200
[18:05] <foggalong> _Tristan: Ah right. Problem solved then.
[18:05] <ikonia> Eagleman: what is the limiting factor stopping you ?
[18:05] <_Tristan> yeah :)
[18:06] <Eagleman> well vga std isnt working, and i've heard i can get it to work with qxl and spice
[18:06] <ikonia> I'd do more research than that
[18:06] <yeats> Eagleman: you might do better with VirtualBox for desktop virtualization (just my opinion) - virtualbox + guest additions will do what you want
[18:07] <Eagleman> i switched over from virtualbox to kvm
[18:07] <Eagleman> becuase i once tried to move a virtual machineto another location on my harddisk, and then the trouble began
[18:07] <ikonia> I'm running a windows XP guest in KVM at 1600x800
[18:07] <ikonia> it's only limited by the resolution of my laptop display
[18:08] <Eagleman> Well how did you do it :P?
[18:08] <ikonia> it was an available option
[18:09] <Eagleman> I am using virt-manager with x11 on windows to manage VM's but the resolution is bothering me
[18:09] <ikonia> hang on
[18:09] <Eagleman> ok, thanks
[18:09] <ikonia> virt-manager on windows....
[18:09] <ikonia> is windows the guest or the host
[18:09] <ikonia> (I know that sounds stupid)
[18:09] <Eagleman> my ubuntu server is the host
[18:09] <Eagleman> and on the host there are guests
[18:09] <ikonia> right, so which resolution do you want to change
[18:10] <ikonia> the windows machine you are using to manage, or the guest's
[18:10] <Eagleman> Of my windows 8 machine
[18:10] <Eagleman> the guest orcourse :P
[18:10] <ikonia> so why are you telling me about using virmanager on x11 on a windows desktop ?
[18:10] <Eagleman> I am not here to ask on how to change my resolution on my main pc
[18:10] <ikonia> does that have some relevence ?
[18:11] <Eagleman> Becuase thats how i manage the guest OS's on my host ( ubuntu server )
[18:11] <ikonia> doest that have anything to do with the issue ?
[18:11] <ikonia> "does"
[18:11] <Eagleman> yes it does
[18:11] <escott> ikonia, i think he just means his main client that he interacts through is windows. and that spice server runs on windows
[18:11] <Eagleman> becuase i use virt-manager to manage the machines, so if i want to change settings i have to change it there
[18:12] <Sheikhmak> hey guys this is a bit silly, but i can't seem to find a way to do it. when I use gnome-screenshot in the command, it auto saves the file, I don't want that, anyone knows how to do that?
[18:12] <davidokner> Hi
[18:12] <ikonia> Eagleman: that doesn't make sense
[18:12] <davidokner> I've been thinking that Ubuntu should try to become a gaming platform.
[18:12] <escott> Sheikhmak, gnome-screenshot --help
[18:12] <davidokner> Because gaming on Windows/Mac sucks
[18:12] <angelpossum> hey its me
[18:12] <ikonia> davidokner: ok, thanks for your thoughts,
[18:13] <Sheikhmak> tried that lol. escott either i don't understand the options, or its simply not there
[18:13] <ikonia> Eagleman: what display setup are you using
[18:13] <escott> davidokner, a bit late to come to that conclusion, and its off-topic
[18:13] <angelpossum> opps wrong ckannel
[18:13] <DJones> davidokner: Probably better for discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:13] <Eagleman> vga
[18:13] <ikonia> escott: what's being used to render / draw the display
[18:13] <davidokner> Oh, Support Channel?
[18:13] <escott> Sheikhmak, if you just run "gnome-screenshot --help" in the command line it will print out the options including "-f" to save to a file
[18:13] <ikonia> escott: sorry that was for Eagleman
[18:14] <escott> ikonia, no problem... im almost as confused as you
[18:14] <yeats> davidokner: you might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:14] <escott> Eagleman, are you doing any kind of vga_passthrough here?
[18:14] <davidokner> ok. I tried to install Ubuntu on my 27 inch 2010 iMac btw, and it wouldn't get passed spinning logo or whatever.
[18:14] <ikonia> davidokner: that's not really anything to do with ubuntu
[18:14] <ikonia> davidokner: so not really appropriate for this channel
[18:15] <Sheikhmak> escott, not what i need lol. ahhaa, I want it to launch the window, not -i but the window you'd get natively when you press screenshot button in ubuntu
[18:15] <davidokner> ikonia: It sounds like Ubuntu doesn't support my computer.
[18:15] <dr_willis> !mac
[18:15] <ikonia> davidokner: you're not using ubuntu, you said you're trying to install windows
[18:15] <Eagleman> ikonia and escott maybe this makes sense:  http://imagebin.org/238666
[18:15] <ikonia> davidokner: oops, sorry, I totally miss-read that
[18:15] <davidokner> konia: No, I said ubuntu, yeah
[18:15] <ikonia> davidokner: you are installing ubuntu, my apologies
[18:16] <mcgrete> Hello.  I am having trouble with authentication using freenx and nx client.  Tried many different methods/posts on web.  Using custom key, not using standard port22; appear able to connect, but kicked off?  Any help?  Here is the NX Client details of the failure.
[18:16] <mcgrete> NX> 203 NXSSH running with pid: 7983
[18:16] <mcgrete> NX> 285 Enabling check on switch command
[18:16] <mcgrete> NX> 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files
[18:16] <mcgrete> NX> 285 Setting the preferred NX options
[18:16] <FloodBot1> mcgrete: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:16] <mcgrete> NX> 200 Connected to address: myipaddress on port: myport#
[18:16] <davidokner> ikonia: Yeah, but its ok, I don't want to try to install it right now.
[18:16] <ikonia> ok
[18:16] <Catbuntu> Which video editor do you recommend me for creating amateur Youtube videos?
[18:16] <escott> Sheikhmak, i dont follow what you want
[18:17] <mcgrete> Checking to see if I am unmuted now; sorry for the 'flood', unintentional...
[18:18] <Sheikhmak> escott, i'm on lubuntu, when you on ubuntu  and you press screenshot on your keyboard, you get a little window that asks you where to save the screenshot. I'm trying to do the same in lubuntu using gnome-screenshot.
[18:19] <escott> Sheikhmak, doesn't seem you can set the filename in that interactive prompt if that is what you want
[18:19] <Justin_jtb7rmv> unrealircd tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option
[18:19] <Justin_jtb7rmv> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[18:21] <espkun> How do i add this PPA to ubuntu software center? https://launchpad.net/~andrikos/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=quantal
[18:21] <espkun> i need the xorg files and fgrlx drivers, from the PPA for 12.10
[18:21] <Sheikhmak> yeah my best shot is to use -i, after i take screenshot I can save.
[18:21] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i need helping
[18:22] <ikonia> Justin_jtb7rmv: what command are you running
[18:23] <Justin_jtb7rmv> unrealircd
[18:23] <Zeelot> does anyone here know how to change the icon a usb drive shows up with? I plugged in a device and it had an icon but then I formatted it and lost it… I have the ico file but don't know how to tell ubuntu to use it
[18:23] <maslanov> hi
[18:23] <escott> Sheikhmak, you can probably specify -i and -f if you wat
[18:23] <Zeelot> windows uses the autorun.inf file for this but that doesn't seem to do anything here
[18:24] <mcgrete> Zeelot: have you tried right clicking and selecting properties, then icon on left of window shows current icon, click it and select new icon
[18:25] <mcgrete> Zeelot: are you using windows?
[18:25] <Zeelot> no
[18:26] <Zeelot> mcgrete: I was looking for how the drive did it internally
[18:26] <Sheikhmak> for the mac ubuntu users, any of you ever tried to format entire disk to use only ubuntu?
[18:26] <Zeelot> since it came with an icon on the first try
[18:27] <Zeelot> mcgrete: the properties thing didn't work
[18:27] <mcgrete> Zeelot: sorry, no suggestions
[18:27] <Zeelot> alright thanks anyway
[18:28] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i want runing unrealircd in linux
[18:29] <dr_willis> so whats stopping you Justin_jtb7rmv
[18:30] <DrGrov> Now I seriously wondering.
[18:30] <DrGrov> My DVD burner is saying "Multi Recorder". Can I then burn DVD+R and DVD-R? I am not too sure.
[18:30] <dr_willis> how old is the drive DrGrov
[18:31] <dr_willis> id think it should do both unless its reral old
[18:31] <Justin_jtb7rmv> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[18:32] <maslanov> hi
[18:32] <Si2100> Hi
[18:33] <DrGrov> dr_willis: I am not too sure. I am trying to figure out from where in Ubuntu I can check the actual name of the LG DVD burner. It says Super Multi on one sind. The other side is says DVD Multi Recorder.
[18:33] <maslanov> everybody is here?
[18:33] <dr_willis> Justin_jtb7rmv:  what are you doing exazctly
[18:33] <maslanov> i am in wc
[18:33] <dr_willis> DrGrov:  'actual name' ? meaning what?
[18:33] <irishmac1022> maslanov: TMI
[18:33] <DrGrov> dr_willis: The product name that LG gave it. Perhaps it is visible within Ubuntu as well somehow?
[18:33] <Si2100> yeah !
[18:34] <psiklops> Hi. I wish to share a UMTS (USB-Modem) internet connection with my built in Ethernet (eth0) so i can share to an other Machine.
[18:34] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[18:34] <psiklops> Where can i find Documentation on this this ?
[18:34] <dr_willis> try hwinfo tool  perhaps  DrGrov
[18:34] <dr_willis> !ics
[18:36] <Justin_jtb7rmv> tar zxcf filenanes.tar.gz
[18:36] <DrGrov> dr_willis: The issue I have is that this is the only machine I have :( But it is good. Hwinfo is what I meant. Just downloading it now to verify what the LG DVD station is called. Got a Samsung similar one that says Multi Recorder as well.
[18:36] <Rustyblade> Hey guys I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and I am trying to remove Wine 1.4 using synaptic because it is a broken package, but doesn't let me. Screenshot: http://imagebin.org/238670
[18:36] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Shouldn't it be so that the DVD burner refuses the DVD if it is wrong?
[18:37] <Rustyblade> So can anyone help me?
[18:37] <Si2100> have you tired from termina l?
[18:37] <Rustyblade> yes
[18:37] <dr_willis> i would think the cdrecord tools or other tools would give an error      message
[18:37] <Si2100> what it sya ?
[18:37] <Rustyblade> The reason I am doing this is to install wine
[18:38] <Si2100> try downloading from thier site ?
[18:38] <dr_willis> try installing it via apt-get and report any error messages
[18:38] <Si2100> or apt-fast =)
[18:39] <Justin_jtb7rmv> dr_willis tar zxcf filenanes.tar.gz
[18:39] <Rustyblade> I do "sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:39] <Si2100> yeah
[18:39] <Rustyblade> And it says 0 to remove 0 to bla bla bla
[18:40] <Rustyblade> That mean it THINKS nothing is broken
[18:40] <DrGrov> dr_willis: The problem I am facing now then includes what is the most reliable DVD burning software since I only have one DVD?
[18:40] <Rustyblade> I disabled the Main Wine HQ repo
[18:40] <Rustyblade> Like it told to
[18:40] <Si2100> erm..
[18:40] <rushboy> hello can anyone help me out with this query i have : how do i search for a particular .src file in github thry ough my terminal in ubuntu ?any example would do . thanks in advance :)
[18:40] <dr_willis> Justin_jtb7rmv:  c = create. x = extract  i think you are using opposite options
[18:40] <Rustyblade> But why can't I remove the package from synaptic
[18:40] <dr_willis> !info unp | Justin_jtb7rmv
[18:40] <Si2100> youy should be able t from termianl
[18:41] <Rustyblade> It doesn't work...
[18:41] <dr_willis> Justin_jtb7rmv:  unp foo.tgz
[18:41] <Si2100> Rustyblade, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2070771
[18:41] <BluesKaj> Si2100, apt-fast is ok for upgrading packages , just noting that don't try major upgrades to the desktop versions because it's failed and really screwed up my system sources
[18:41] <Rustyblade> I also went to Edit>Fix Broken Packages and I get this
[18:41] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Got it :) Device: "DVDRAM GSA-H12L"
[18:42] <Arash> hello
[18:42] <Rustyblade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1421638/
[18:42] <Arash> hello
[18:42] <BluesKaj> Si2100, and it isn't real fast anyway :)
[18:42] <Arash> how can I kill my firefox process ?
[18:42] <clausen> is there anything like sshfs that can access remote block devices?
[18:43] <dr_willis> Arash:  killall firefox
[18:43] <Si2100> BlueEagle, Lies it say its faster =P
[18:43] <Arash> thanks doc
[18:44] <Aaron123> Hey guys! I dual boot windows & Ubuntu, However after reinstalling windows, I no longer have the option to choose OS during boot. Is there a way to fix this inside windows ?
[18:44] <Justin_jtb7rmv> dr_willis i am talking you on open window
[18:44] <Rustyblade> Si2100: I tried it using Synaptic I get this IN Synaptic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1421638/
[18:44] <DJones> !grub | Aaron123
[18:44] <dr_willis> 1fixgrub
[18:44] <dr_willis> ;
[18:45] <DrGrov> dr_willis: This is the one. http://reviews.cnet.com/dvd-drives/lg-gsa-h12l-super/4505-3212_7-34936090.html
[18:45] <Aaron123> thanks ubottu
[18:45] <Si2100> Rustyblade, you might have done this but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=947124
[18:46] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Should that not work as well with DVD-R ?
[18:46] <shPikachu> hi ppl
[18:47]  * Justin_jtb7rmv {{{{huggles}}}} dr_willis
[18:47] <shPikachu> i want to do autologin and to start directly into fluxbox in ubuntu
[18:47] <shPikachu> i already disabled lightdm
[18:47] <shPikachu> but i dont know what to do next
[18:48] <Si2100> shPikachu, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/startfluxbox.1.html
[18:48] <erpo> shPikachu: lightdm might have a feature that lets you log in automatically.
[18:48] <Si2100> enjoy
[18:48] <Rustyblade> Sigh* doesn't work...
[18:49] <kelvinella> what is the best way to convert eps files to png or gif without much lost of image quality in ubuntu?
[18:49] <Si2100> Rustyblade, Dunno what to do then... am out of ideas
[18:49] <shPikachu> Si2100 : thanks
[18:49] <Boreeas> I added a directory to the path in my .bashrc file, but it appears that the executables in that directory aren't found by bash
[18:49] <Si2100> shPikachu, its cool
[18:49] <Justin_jtb7rmv> dr_willis i am talking you on open window
[18:49] <erpo> kelvinella: A lot of files or just one or two?
[18:49] <Boreeas> How do I refresh the path-cache, if it exists?
[18:50] <erpo> Boreeas: Did you log out and back in?
[18:50] <Boreeas> erpo: No, just executed bash again
[18:50] <dr_willis> Justin_jtb7rmv: theres no need to be pm-ing me.
[18:51] <erpo> Boreeas: I'm not 100% sure bash reads .bashrc every time it's invoked. I think it might be just when you log in.
[18:51] <dr_willis> Justin_jtb7rmv:  you are not using the right options.
[18:51] <Rustyblade> Here is what I tried, Went to Synaptic>Searched Wine>Right Clicked Wine1.4>Mark For Installation>Edit>Fix Broken Packages>I get this
[18:51] <dr_willis> !tar
[18:51] <Rustyblade> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:51] <Rustyblade> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[18:51] <Rustyblade> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[18:51] <Rustyblade> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[18:51] <Rustyblade> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[18:51] <Boreeas> erpo: Alright, I'll relog then, thanks
[18:52] <Si2100> Cya later guys
[18:52] <dr_willis> Rustyblade:  tried a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:52] <erpo> Boreeas: If that doesn't work, pastebin your .bashrc.
[18:52] <Mensch-Maschine> Another question, definitely system related this time. On 10.04, no X, my caps lock light doesn’t work. It stops working during boot and remains lit or unlit depending on what was it states at that point. Any idea?
[18:52] <Rustyblade> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:53] <anepanal1ptos> howdy, how do i change the metric in a dhcp-obtained default gw?
[18:53] <Rustyblade> dr_willis: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:53] <thomasd> hay does Ionice also change network schedueling priority?
[18:54] <kelvinella> erpo, 12 eps files
[18:54] <dr_willis> my apt fu skills are all used up then Rustyblade
[18:54] <Rustyblade> .....
[18:54] <erpo> anepanal1ptos: The command that can do that is called "ip". I don't know how to use that command, but you might start reading the man page.
[18:54] <Rustyblade> Thx for the umm.. help I guess?
[18:54] <kelvinella> erpo, i know i can open one file at a time in gimp and convert them to png, but is there a terminal way to convert them with commands?
[18:54] <anepanal1ptos> erpo: that works. i was tring to use route
[18:55] <kelvinella> erpo, without much lost in image quality?
[18:55] <dr_willis> Rustyblade:  askubuntu.com may have some suggestions
[18:55] <kelvinella> erpo, i dont know why i cant insert some eps files in word2007?
[18:55] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  imagemagick perhaps
[18:55] <erpo> kelvinella: Install imagemagick and use the convert command: convert input.eps output.png.
[18:55] <kelvinella> erpo, the eps files i created with xfig can be inserted into word 2007 but some eps files i created with other program i can not
[18:56] <erpo> kelvinella: I found that solution by googling for: linux convert eps command line and then choosing the first link.
[18:57] <bat21> How come I get an error using Firestarter with Ubuntu 12.10 about not having access to the system logs... ? I was started with sudo ? Anyone, thanks in advance.
[18:57] <root> how are you
[18:57] <thomasd> hay does Ionice also change network schedueling priority?
[18:57] <disharmonic> gn
[18:57] <erpo> root: I recommend not using IRC as root. \
[18:58] <erpo> thomasd: I don't think so. What are you trying to do?
[18:58] <Guest24591> you can help me plz???
[18:58] <kelvinella> erpo, i also found that in google i just want some more expert advices
[18:58] <erpo> kelvinella: It looks like the best solution to me.
[18:59] <erpo> Guest24591: If you need help, it's OK to just ask your question.
[18:59] <irishmac1022> do you think i should install ubuntu alongside my Windows 7?
[19:00] <erpo> irishmac1022: As opposed to not installing ubuntu at all? As opposed to installing it in a virtual machine?
[19:00] <irishmac1022> not installing at all?
[19:00] <thomasd> erpo: i have applications that require a small amount of bandwith reliably (minecraft) and other ones that require large amounts but not so reliably (youtube) is there someway i can keep youtube from choking out minecraft?
[19:01] <erpo> thomasd: Yes. Linux has a facility called "traffic control" that will allow you to do exactly that.
[19:02] <erpo> thomasd: The generic terms for what you want to do is called "quality of service", which is what it's called outside of the Linux world.
[19:02] <thomasd> erpo: tyvm. I write web-pages i should be more informed with the mechanics of how they git to the client :P.
[19:02] <erpo> *term
[19:03] <erpo> irishmac1022: If you're curious about ubuntu, just put the CD in the drive and boot off of it. You can play around with it without actually changing your computer. When you're done, just reboot and take the disc out and you'll have your computer back the way it was.
[19:04] <erpo> thomasd: Personally, I'm glad I don't have to know every little thing about computers to make them work.
[19:04] <irishmac1022> erpo: my netbook has no cd drive, but i am using a live usb to do it
[19:04] <erpo> irishmac1022: In that case, you can boot off of the live USB until you figure out whether you want to install it or not.
[19:05] <ftruzzi> Hi, anyone knows how I can listen to the stereo line input?
[19:05] <zoite_> with your ears usually
[19:05] <ftruzzi> zoite_, >.> found in alsamixer the control
[19:05] <erpo> ftruzzi: Which version of Ubuntu and which desktop environment?
[19:05] <ftruzzi> sorry
[19:05] <irishmac1022> erpo: im just wondering the pros of having it installed
[19:05] <bat21> How come I get an error using Firestarter with Ubuntu 12.10 about not having access to the system logs... ? I was started with sudo ? Anyone, thanks in advance.
[19:06] <reza> ali.oghabi3@yahoo.com
[19:06] <reza> azinazi13@yahoo.com
[19:06] <erpo> irishmac1022: I'm not an ubuntu salesman. What got you interested in the first place?
[19:07] <irishmac1022> erpo: ive used it before, so im just trying to see if the new 12.10 is worth installing
[19:08] <Macuser> Does anyone know if both the java JRE and JDK come pre-installed on Ubuntu?
[19:08] <yeats> irishmac1022: no one but you knows what your needs/preferences are - if you want to, install it and see if you like it.
[19:08] <erpo> irishmac1022: In general, I think every version of ubuntu is better than the last. I haven't tried 12.10, but I hear it has some privacy issues (e.g. sending what you type into the launcher to Amazon.com).
[19:09] <irishmac1022> yeats: how do i uninstall it if i need to
[19:09] <yeats> !java | Macuser
[19:09] <erpo> Macuser: There is more than one JRE and JDK. What do you want to do?
[19:09] <irishmac1022> erpo: i heard about that, i was going to disable that when i had it up and running with wifi
[19:09] <Macuser> I know what a JRE and JDK are. i just wanted to know if Ubuntu comes with a JRE and JDK. It doesn't matter which one.
[19:09] <yeats> irishmac1022: there are many forum threads, blog posts, etc. on the web, but the basics are: 1) delete the ubuntu partition and 2) restore the MBR with your windows install disc
[19:10] <erpo> Macuser: I don't know if it's installed by default, but it's easy to install a JRE and JDK from the official repositories.
[19:10] <irishmac1022> yeats: i planned to install it on my school netbook, so i wont be able to do replacement boot manger
[19:11] <yeats> irishmac1022: then that probably settles it then, right?
[19:11] <irishmac1022> yeats: yup
[19:12] <Macuser> What's up with installing Linux on netbooks these days?
[19:12] <irishmac1022> yeats: i have to return the laptop when every year, so i'll just make them deal with it
[19:12] <erpo> Macuser: You use a flash drive since many netbooks don't have an optical drive.
[19:13] <irishmac1022> unless there is a way to install ubuntu into a flash as fully standalone
[19:13] <irishmac1022> *flash drive
[19:14] <yeats> !liveusb | irishmac1022 - that's possible too
[19:14] <tilliboy_> !list
[19:14] <erpo> irishmac1022: You could also save a disk image of the system now, install ubuntu for the year, and restore the image when you have to return the hardware.
[19:15] <irishmac1022> erpo: how do i do that?
[19:15] <erpo> irishmac1022: Google clonezilla.
[19:16] <irishmac1022> i already have clonezilla, that is probably what they use for their images
[19:16] <Mensch-Maschine> Any idea why my caps lock light does not work after boot? It works fine before that point. 10.04, no X.
[19:16] <KI4RO> .
[19:17] <mcgrete> Hello.  Can anyone help me with resolving an issue with freenx?  I appear to connect, but get disconnected/reset for some reason.  NX> 200 Connected to address: MyIPAddress on port: MyPort;   Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[19:17] <RichardRaseley> I am running a fresh install of 12.10 and Chromium (22.0.1229.94~r161065-0ubuntu1). I can't seem to get the unity web app thing working at all (no prompts when navigating to sites, etc). Any suggestions?
[19:18] <escott> mcgrete, what is between you and the server
[19:18] <t432> I accidentally entered the command: sudo apt-get autoremove openjdk-*
[19:19] <mcgrete> escott: I have a router LinksysE3000 if I recall.
[19:19] <Ankit> help with installation ? anyone ?
[19:19] <irishmac1022> t432: how did you do that?
[19:19] <mac_> i was reading news and found a shoking news about ubuntu ad it broke my trutst on ubuntu
[19:19] <erpo> t432: That's a heck of a typo.
[19:19] <mac_> the news saying ubuntu contain malicious code and it spy on users..
[19:20] <irishmac1022> mac_: elaborate, please?
[19:20] <DJones> mac_: Just turn it off
[19:20] <t432> what did i do?
[19:20] <mac_> read news here...
[19:20] <mac_> http://thehackernews.com/2012/12/ubuntu-linux-is-spyware.html
[19:20] <DJones> !adlens | mac_
[19:20] <Ankit> im stuck at login screen
[19:20] <escott> mcgrete, then its probably not that. its something on the server. anything in the logs
[19:20] <Ankit> mouse freeze
[19:20] <Ankit> help!
[19:20] <mcgrete> escott:  I don't know how to check logs; advice? WHich logs?  sudo gedit /path?/logfile?
[19:20] <irishmac1022> Ankit: did you reboot the machine?
[19:21] <mac_> ubottu can u give me tuth for being safe
[19:21] <t432> anyway to to recover?
[19:21] <xangua> !ot | mac_
[19:21] <mac_> some help
[19:21] <Ankit> irishmac1022: yes, then ctlr alt f7 on gui screen and mouse stuck
[19:21] <mcgrete> escott: I have installed freenx server, and NX Client
[19:21] <t432> java
[19:21] <irishmac1022> !guidelines
[19:21] <dr_willis> mac_:  if you dont wand the adlens then remove it
[19:22] <irishmac1022> Ankit: are you on a laptop?
[19:22] <mac_> dr_willis how to remove it?
[19:22] <gorgonzola> hello peoples! i'm seeing a weird problem but i have no idea where to begin looking into it. My video card (ATI m96, mobility radeon hd 4650) is supposed to have 512mb dedicated video memory, but for some reason, lspci and apps report it having only 256. what gives? thanks!
[19:22] <dr_willis> its been well documented since befor 12.10 came out.
[19:22] <escott> mcgrete, /var/log
[19:22] <DJones> mac_: Read the link ubottu gave you, that explains it
[19:23] <Ankit> irishmac1022: yes
[19:23] <mac_> ok thnkx
[19:23] <mcgrete> escott: Oops, ignore entry.
[19:23] <dr_willis> mac_:  ubottu  just told you..........
[19:23] <irishmac1022> Ankit: is there a key that looks like a mouspad with a x in it?
[19:23] <mac_> des it spy on im chat and skype etc?
[19:24] <dr_willis> mac_:  it dosent spy on  anything
[19:24] <Ankit> irishmac1022: didnt get you
[19:24] <irishmac1022> Ankit: on the f1-f12 keys
[19:24] <mcgrete> escott:  Still there?
[19:25] <dr_willis> its well documented what it does
[19:25] <escott> mcgrete, yes
[19:25] <mac_> i was just shocked from this news..and many people rmeove ubuntu from there syste,.before doing that i came here if what is this matter
[19:25] <mcgrete> escott: I am unable to locate appropriate logfile.  Any advice of which / where?
[19:25] <irishmac1022> Ankit: on my keyboard the previously mentioned key is on f10
[19:25] <escott> mcgrete, not really i dont use nx myself
[19:25] <dr_willis> mac_:  its been out for 2  months.. its not news and its overblown hype and fud.
[19:26] <mcgrete> escott: OK, thanks...
[19:26] <Ankit> irishmac1022: you mean to disable mouse and all
[19:26] <mac_> i hope so..can u tell me how i can now if my current sytem is ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10
[19:26] <irishmac1022> Ankit: yes
[19:26] <parapan> hi fellows ...need some help ..I have ubuntu 10.04 LTS ...I installed ArtistX alongside ubuntu, now I cannot boot to Ubuntu ...I have an Install error related with Power Manager ....the login account does not work ...
[19:26] <dr_willis> !version
[19:26] <AminosAmigos> !clone
[19:26] <Ankit> irishmac1022:  cant locate any...f10 opens the ubuntu power dialog shut et all
[19:27] <irishmac1022> Ankit: try holding fn+f10
[19:27] <Ankit> that brings down the menu, suspend restart and shut down
[19:27] <shPikachu> what script does ubuntu run just before starting lightdm
[19:28] <shPikachu> ?
[19:28] <Phaba> mac_,  a real issue might be if there's backdoor exploits in the open source library's covered by obscurity....meh
[19:28] <irishmac1022> Ankit: could be a hardware issue or it could be missing a driver
[19:28] <mac_> i dont use other software..so the problem was in 12.10
[19:28] <mac_> 12.04 dont have amazone issue?
[19:29] <erpo> dr_willis: I believe the claims that it's spyware are overblown hype and fud because canonical is being upfront about what they're doing and they have a lot of my good will. I'm still not OK with that software on my system because I don't want what I type leaving my PC, and considering how easily this could happen without the user's knowledge, I believe it's irresponsible to make it the default behavior.
[19:29] <Ankit> irishmac1022:  wht should i do
[19:30] <Phaba> erpo, doesnt the zeitgiest thing log activity anyway?
[19:30] <k1l_> mac_: you can just uninstall the shopping-lense, _if_ you dont trust the disable button that is in the preferences
[19:31] <irishmac1022> i apologize, socket error
[19:31] <erpo> Phaba: I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think you have to opt into that, and it only reports on which packages are installed.
[19:31] <dr_willis> i just find seeing hits for amazon things annoying when im not shopping. put it in its own tab
[19:31] <Phaba> nah pretty sure its there by default + logs all sorts of usage
[19:31] <erpo> Phaba: Worth looking into.
[19:32] <irishmac1022> is one gigabyte of RAM enough to run Ubuntu 12.10 smoothly?
[19:32] <mac_> k1l ihav ubunt 12.04
[19:32] <k1l_> mac_: so you dont even have a amazon shoping lense
[19:32] <escott> irishmac1022, depends on what applications you intend to run
[19:32] <erpo> dr_willis: I favor the android interface model. Press the apps button, and you get a list of apps and maybe media on the device. Press the search button and you search for everything. The apps button is clearly featured as the primary interface.
[19:32] <k1l_> mac_: so why the paranoia?
[19:32] <mac_> ok so ubuntu 12.04 is safe
[19:32] <dr_willis> non lts releases are always the experiments
[19:32] <Phaba> erpo, i did a while back, but just wasnt bothered as even if it did i got nothing to hide, i think its a package for spotting trends
[19:32] <mac_> coz i think it might be in 12.04
[19:33] <mac_> ofcourse will be panroid..matter of privacy..
[19:33] <dr_willis> mac_:  12.10 is safe.
[19:33] <rushboy> hello can anyone help me with this problem : my wifi is working when i work in windows but i cannot conect to an available network when working in ubuntu
[19:33] <k1l_> mac_: you should stick to the facts
[19:33] <mac_> ok
[19:33] <rushboy> how do i solve this ?
[19:33] <k1l_> mac_: eve 12.10 is safe
[19:33] <k1l_> *even
[19:33] <mac_> ok..
[19:33] <dr_willis> uneducated users vs misseducated users
[19:34] <Macuser> erpo: I know how to install Linux on netbooks! I meant why are so many people choosing netbooks to install linux on. Why not desktops? Or laptops(more powerful)
[19:34] <dr_willis> one is easier to  educate
[19:34] <erpo> Macuser: Because they want small form factor machines at a low cost? I don't know.
[19:34] <dr_willis> Macuser: my etbok fits in my lunchbox
[19:34] <dr_willis> ;)
[19:35] <Macuser> wow. Link me to some cheap good netbooks
[19:35] <erpo> Macuser: We've had good luck with the Asus 1015PEM.
[19:35] <erpo> Macuser: It's an older model now.
[19:35] <dr_willis> actually 3 could fit.. its a big lunchbox
[19:35] <dr_willis> theres some neat c hromebooks out
[19:36] <KI4RO> LOL @ drwillis
[19:36] <shPikachu> hi ppl
[19:36] <dr_willis> my tablet has replaced my netbook however
[19:36] <shPikachu> i want to run fluxbox automatically without running lightdm, even before the cli starts
[19:37] <shPikachu> is it possible?
[19:37] <Hwkiller> So you want to automatically login to tty and launch X with flux?
[19:37] <dr_willis> startx from rc.local shPikachu
[19:37] <Hwkiller> dr_willis: wouldn't that be with root account?
[19:37] <dr_willis> r have ghtdm autologinl
[19:38] <dr_willis> Hwkiller: not if you      su  user -c startx
[19:38] <erpo> dr_willis: That 'l' moved over like 15 characters.
[19:38] <dr_willis> lightdm is a better way
[19:38] <shPikachu> i want to autologin, but i dont want a tty (it slows down booting showing MOTD) i dont know if its possible
[19:38] <Hwkiller> lightdm is a better way, yeah.
[19:39] <escott> shPikachu, you can disable tty's by modifying a few files in /etc/init.d
[19:39] <dr_willis> showing motd slowing dowd things...   errr thats not  the case i bet
[19:40] <escott> dr_willis, depends on how long the message is
[19:40] <shPikachu> is about 4 lines
[19:40] <dr_willis> ttys  are minimal on resources
[19:40] <shPikachu> youre right
[19:40] <erpo> Over a 300 baud modem, 4 lines might be a substantial slowdown.
[19:40] <shPikachu> or maybe just hide the tty
[19:40] <dr_willis> touch    .hushlogin          no more motd when  logging in
[19:40] <shPikachu> i see
[19:41] <shPikachu> ill check all that
[19:41] <shPikachu> thanks
[19:41] <dr_willis> the framebuffer may be a bigger slowdown
[19:42] <Justin_jtb7rmv> C = create.x exrect C: command not found
[19:42] <dr_willis> compared to the resources your browser uses... this is all minimal
[19:42] <xx> isnt thera a channel about ubuntu and women?
[19:42] <xx> or linux and women?
[19:42] <dr_willis> Justin_jtb7rmv:  whats the exact linre you are using
[19:43] <ikonia> xx: yes, there is
[19:43] <ikonia> xx: women and the ubuntu project
[19:43] <Ankit> i'm in ubuntu..able to type but mouse not working
[19:43] <xx> can u share it please
[19:43] <Ankit> any suggestions ?
[19:43] <xx> ikonia,
[19:43] <ikonia> xx: why ?
[19:44] <xx> ikonia,  because id like to join it...
[19:44] <escott> !alis | xx
[19:44] <escott> Ankit, what kind of mouse do yo have?
[19:44] <ikonia> xx: #ubuntu-women
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> xx type /join #ubuntu-women
[19:45] <Ankit> escott: i have tried both the mouse pad on the laptop and an external usb mouse... both not working
[19:45]  * dr_willis bets theres no #ubuntu-men
[19:46] <Macuser> Oh wow. Asus netbooks must be really popular cause i just discovered the option on Asus's website to have Linux installed on your netbook
[19:46] <escott> Ankit, can you open a terminal. ctrl-alt-t and run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit; xinput -list | pastebinit" and send us the link that is printed out
[19:46] <escott> dr_willis, apparently #ubuntu-men is "invite only" men are such pigs
[19:47] <dr_willis> escott:  ;-)
[19:47] <Ankit> escott: lots of data
[19:47] <Ankit> escott: how do i send ?
[19:48] <escott> Ankit, pastebinit should have just printed out a link to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:48] <escott> Ankit, i dont need the stuff related to installing pastebinit
[19:48] <Ankit> so whats the exact command escott
[19:49] <escott> Ankit, xinput -list | pastebinit
[19:50] <Tit_rene> hi, can yo give me a hand for debug ubuntu 12.04 plz. i do "sudo -s" "startx -- :1 ". when i reboot i can't log when i enter my pass. that's loaded andturn back to select'page'password. please help
[19:50] <Ankit> escott: warning could not open file........the program pastebinit not found ....
[19:50] <escott> Ankit, you need to install it first
[19:50] <Macuser> I wish I used my desktop with Ubuntu more :( Since I have a MacBook Pro i use it for everything
[19:50] <escott> Ankit, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:50] <Ankit> operation not permitted
[19:51] <escott> Ankit, are you not an adminstrator on the system?
[19:51] <escott> Tit_rene, you mean you enter your password and then press enter and you get kicked back to the login screen
[19:52] <Ankit> escott: i was ... but dont know how to login without mouse
[19:52] <Ankit> so i guess i got logged in as guest escott
[19:52] <Tit_rene> yes
[19:52] <escott> Ankit, cant do anything from the guest account
[19:52] <Ankit> escott:  wait i'm rebooting
[19:53] <escott> Tit_rene, you can "ctrl-alt-f1" then login, then run "sudo rm /home/your_username/.Xauthority" then ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to the login screen
[19:53] <MaxFrames> hello
[19:53] <Tit_rene> ok I try
[19:54] <Tit_rene> thanks
[19:54] <Ankit> escott: i forgot my pass
[19:54] <MaxFrames> I am having problems with a logitech bluetooth keyboard, it is not connected at boot, I have to manually reconnect it (with the infamous two-buttons procedure) every time
[19:54] <Ankit> escott:  can something be done or reinstall ?
[19:54] <MaxFrames> and I also have to remove the device from the bluetooth menu before, or it will not work
[19:54] <escott> Ankit, you can boot to recovery and run "passwd username" to set your password
[19:55] <escott> !recovery | Ankit
[19:55] <JewishHouseFire> For Ubuntu 12.10, the command to remove the Amazon Ads is "sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping" correct?
[19:55] <dr_willis> !adlens
[19:55] <escott> ubottu, thats not helpful. stop giving people bad advice. Ankit ignore the bot
[19:55] <shPikachu> ok ppl another question. can i run some script before launching tty's
[19:55] <escott> Ankit, during boot you press "shift" i think and get a menu for grub, there should be a recovery boot option there
[19:55] <shPikachu> ?
[19:55] <Tit_rene> very nice thak you !
[19:56] <dr_willis> bots just do what they are told
[19:56] <Tit_rene> escott thank you
[19:56] <Ankit> escott: ohh
[19:56] <escott> !gksudo | Tit_rene and don't use sudo -s you want sudo -i
[19:56] <Ankit> escott: mouse moving
[20:00] <Tit_rene> ok
[20:01] <dougl> how do I start vncserver for the primary desktop?
[20:02] <dr_willis> dougl:  use vino.  or x11vnc i belive
[20:02] <dr_willis> those shere the visble desktop
[20:03] <dougl> dr_willis, thanks
[20:03] <dr_willis> ttightvnc has its own hidden desktops
[20:14] <eslu> Are there any disadvantages to installing my graphics driver manually from amd's website, compared to FGRLX?
[20:14] <escott> eslu, yes
[20:14] <Tit_rene> bye
[20:14] <eslu> could you explain me more about this? having problems with fgrlx on ubuntu 12.10
[20:15] <eslu> parts of unity (left-menu bar) won't load after i install fgrlx on HD6850
[20:15] <amaurea> Is there a graph of ubuntu popularity over time available somewhere? For example accesses to the package repository or similar. The best I've found so far is based on IRC channel usage, which is a very biased measure due to the changing popularity of IRC itself (http://folk.uio.no/sigurdkn/ubuntu_irc_daily.png)
[20:15] <eslu> heh, universitet i oslo!
[20:16] <eslu> like distrowatch.org?
[20:16] <escott> eslu, without a mechanism to rebuild the module for each kernel upgrade your modules will break
[20:17] <amaurea> eslu: Does distrowatch have such a graph? Also, I'm prone to think that distrowatch is even less reliable than IRC logs
[20:17] <escott> amaurea, distrowatch isn't a measure of anything except traffic to distrowatch
[20:17] <Ankit> how do i retrieve admin password ? i have the bootable usb plugged in escott
[20:18] <escott> Ankit, either chroot in as root and run passwd username or at grub boot to single user mode. the later is easer
[20:18] <amaurea> escott: right. but I think hits per day to the ubuntu package repositories would be a very accurate way of measuring usage
[20:18] <Ankit> escott: pls explain steps
[20:18] <Ankit> escott:  i help shift but the menu doesnt open
[20:19] <Ankit> held * escott
[20:19] <escott> amaurea, well based on the logs of my apache server that i run on my internal network ubuntu accounts for 100% of all computer operating systems
[20:19] <escott> Ankit, it may not be shift i dont know what it is
[20:19] <gorgonzola> Hello again! I'm having a weird problem: my video card (ATI M96; mobility radeon hd 4650) is supposed to have 512mb of memory, but the radeon driver only sees 256. Any ideas?
[20:19] <Justin_jtb7rmv> ubuntu
[20:20] <Justin_jtb7rmv> ubuntu-man
[20:20] <escott> amaurea, if you can mount the ubuntu partition within the livecd then you can run "sudo chroot /path/to/ubuntu/mountpoint" and then run "passwd"
[20:21] <Justin_jtb7rmv> dr_willis
[20:22] <amaurea> escott: I'm not the one who brought up distrowatch, and I agree that hit counts for little-used websites like distrowatch is unreliable. Which is why I came here to hear if somebody had more reliable statistics.
[20:22] <Justin_jtb7rmv> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[20:22] <ikonia> Justin_jtb7rmv: what command are you running
[20:22] <Justin_jtb7rmv> tar zxcf filenanes.tar.gz
[20:22] <escott> amaurea, i dont know of anything better
[20:22] <eslu_> For some odd reason, i have worse performance under fgrlx than opensource driver? anyone mind helping me?
[20:22] <ikonia> Justin_jtb7rmv:  x and c
[20:22] <ikonia> that can't work
[20:23] <amaurea> escott: no problem
[20:23] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i want runing unrealircd in linux
[20:23] <ikonia> Justin_jtb7rmv: has to be one or the other (in your case x)
[20:23] <Flannel> amaurea: popcon has issues, numerous ones, but it's one more datapoint: http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[20:23] <escott> Justin_jtb7rmv, xc means both extract and create. you mean xv extract and verbose
[20:24] <mickster04> w00t happy monday everyone
[20:24] <amaurea> Flannel: thanks, I'll have a look at it
[20:24] <phunyguy_t430s> Sunday afternoon here.
[20:26] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do u doing it
[20:26] <Erie01> anyone know of a group that can help me get into my hacked camera server ? i can telnet:23 but username and pass are now changed. i just need to resotre it we can watch via http
[20:27] <clausen> Erie01, do you have physical access to it?
[20:27] <Justin_jtb7rmv> how do u doing it
[20:27] <Erie01> no im now 400 miles away from it
[20:27] <ikonia> Justin_jtb7rmv: use "x" not "c"
[20:27] <bjrohan> Shortly I will be in the market for a new laptop, I do some video editing, not professionally, but enough I need a machine capable to do so. What is my best bet for video, Intel or Nvidia as far as support and power?
[20:27] <winb> What cmd do I use to launch rc mini racers from terminal?
[20:27] <Erie01> and the idiots at the other end dont even know how to turn it on so im stuck
[20:28] <eslu_> if fgrlx isn't installed properly, how can i fix this?
[20:28] <eslu_> according to less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:28] <eslu_> [    15.646] (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed
[20:28] <Erie01> i have the stream port and the command port
[20:28] <Erie01> those are still running and not changed
[20:28] <ikonia> Erie01: contact your provider
[20:29] <ikonia> Erie01: we are not going to help you exploit anything
[20:29] <Erie01> i am the provider
[20:29] <ikonia> Erie01: then fix it
[20:29] <Erie01> this thing was bought over the internet about 4 years ago and now it was hacked
[20:30] <ikonia> Erie01: so what's stopping you resolving it ?
[20:30] <ikonia> Erie01: if your machine has been exploted then you need to do a re-install
[20:30] <Erie01> the people i bought it from are out of business.
[20:31] <jwtiyuar> i have this http://goo.gl/FV7HR , after connecting it working well but after restarting every settings will close i have to setup it again every time
[20:31] <romyo> hello everyone here , i am from egypt . any one wanna chat
[20:31] <DJones> !ot | romyo
[20:32] <ikonia> Erie01: I doubt that, as if it was out of business the hosting would be switched off
[20:32] <WR47HANZ> quick question, is there a dedicated xbmcbuntu chan somewhere?
[20:32] <Erie01> like i said im not able to just up and fly there for a 15 min fix i just want to fix it remotely
[20:32] <Justin_jtb7rmv> remote contorl
[20:32] <Erie01> oh brother   you dont understand
[20:32] <ikonia> we are not going to help you exploit anything
[20:32] <ikonia> Erie01: what is the name of the company that hosts the camera
[20:33] <Erie01> i bought the server from a company that is no longer in business and i installed the server and the cameras  then i MOVED and now someone has hacked it and no one can log in to see the cameras
[20:33] <Erie01> thats all
[20:33] <Erie01> its not hosted somewhere else
[20:33] <ikonia> Erie01: what is the name of the company that hosts the camera
[20:33] <Erie01> i set it all up
[20:33] <ikonia> Erie01: ok, so you should be able to arrange someone to do a site visit and reset it
[20:34] <Erie01> wow
[20:34] <ikonia> or re-install it
[20:34] <Erie01> this is like talking to a wall
[20:34] <ikonia> (most likley re-install if it's been compromised)
[20:35] <CoreyBR> hi guys, good afternoon
[20:35] <dr_willis> how do you kniw it was hacked? guess when in doubt however restore to a know  safe state.
[20:35] <Justin_jtb7rmv> can you going to remote control in linux
[20:35] <CoreyBR> is there any way to check if my ISO is corrupted?
[20:35] <jwtyar> i have this http://goo.gl/FV7HR , after restart all setup up hide , i have to setup it again
[20:36] <whoamhe> is there anyway that i can check my data usage on ubuntu ?
[20:36] <dr_willis> !md5 | CoreyBR
[20:37] <escott> whoamhe, you could probably have iptables log it, but there is no ready made tool i am aware of
[20:37] <lynk> whoamhe: fire up terminal and run "ifconfig", it'll show you usage since the last boot
[20:37] <Justin_jtb7rmv> can you going to remote control in linux my computer please
[20:37] <dr_willis> record data used. ive seen some tools that show mb up/down.  but never used tgem
[20:38] <ikonia> Justin_jtb7rmv: there are various "remote" control or access solution
[20:38] <CoreyBR> !md5
[20:38] <ikonia> Justin_jtb7rmv: something as simple as ssh, or as visual as say vnc
[20:38] <BoozeWooz> from hi
[20:38] <dr_willis> Justin_jtb7rmv:  for what reason?
[20:38] <BoozeWooz> ~___~ this version 12.04 is beug.. no WERK!
[20:39] <dr_willis> BoozeWooz: works fine for most people
[20:39] <BoozeWooz> when 11.04 was, then its perfect but this :S always problems...
[20:39] <BoozeWooz> first of all.. java doesnt work for my minecraft server
[20:39] <CoreyBR> dr_willis everytime i try install ubuntu in my netbook from an usb pendriver the installation informs an error about. Reason: corrupted DVD/CD
[20:39] <BoozeWooz> always this java problem
[20:39] <Justin_jtb7rmv> vnc
[20:39] <whoamhe> lynk it only shows the current connection
[20:40] <BoozeWooz> perhaps i should just stfu and roll back to 11.04 >_>
[20:40] <BoozeWooz> ughhhhhh
[20:40] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: tone down the language and attitude pleas.e
[20:40] <ikonia> please
[20:40] <dr_willis> CoreyBR:  theres a verify option on the cd boot menu. or yse the md5 tools to verify the iso  doo both actually
[20:40] <BoozeWooz> ok sorry
[20:40] <BoozeWooz> i just wasted like 6 hours this entire day setting up everything and :( it just refuses to work...
[20:42] <dr_willis> i wonder how many minecraft questions are on askubuntu.com ;-)
[20:42] <dr_willis> it seems a very fragile gamw.
[20:42] <BoozeWooz> the language is very bad .. pff java
[20:42] <BoozeWooz> and oracle isnt helping either with their craps :/ ruined everything
[20:43] <BoozeWooz> i bet microsoft shoved some billions under the table causing this misfortune
[20:43] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: stop now
[20:43] <ikonia> I've asked you earlier
[20:43] <ikonia> stop with the attitude
[20:43] <ikonia> this channel is for ubuntu support - rant elsewhere
[20:43] <BoozeWooz> okok, seen
[20:43] <CoreyBR> I'm sorry about the noob question but mint and ubuntu are like the same OS but with other interface?
[20:44] <BoozeWooz> no
[20:44] <ikonia> CoreyBR: no, mint is based off ubuntu packages, but it's maintained and built by the mint team
[20:44] <CoreyBR> hm, thanks
[20:45] <BoozeWooz> hmm ok then mayb someone can be of help ~_~.. if i downgrad to 11.04, its very soon to be discontinued, does this mean anything?
[20:45] <BoozeWooz> i won't get software upgrades right? or.. ? will it just mean no new stuff?
[20:45] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: it means exactly what you said, you have re-installed 11.04 and it will soon go to end of life
[20:45] <ikonia> no updates at all
[20:45] <ViaNocturna85> BoozeWooz: It just means Ubuntu packages wont be updated, 3rd party will
[20:45] <guntbert> BoozeWooz: there is no "downgrade" process
[20:45] <ikonia> ViaNocturna85: 3rd party may/may not depending on the vendor
[20:45] <BoozeWooz> fml
[20:46] <ikonia> fml ?
[20:46] <CoreyBR> how can i help with the ubuntu development? witch language does i need to know?
[20:46] <ViaNocturna85> ikonia: of course, I just mean that they dont depend on Ubuntu version per se
[20:46] <ikonia> CoreyBR: ubuntu is made up of many languages/projects
[20:46] <BoozeWooz> i go now before i get banished ~_~ expell my fustrations somewhere else
[20:46] <clausen> how do I change the permissions of devmapper devices?  eg /dev/dm-2
[20:46] <dr_willis> CoreyBR:  if you are a beginner prigramer then python is worth learning
[20:46] <BoozeWooz> http://www.internetslang.com/FML-meaning-definition.asp
[20:46] <BoozeWooz> bye
[20:46] <ikonia> CoreyBR: reading up on how to get involved is a good start
[20:47] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: there is no need for that
[20:47] <ViaNocturna85> BoozeWooz: Some people arent too familiar with internet lingo ;)
[20:47] <CoreyBR> i know a lot of PHP and Visual Basic, not sure if it helps because .NET is a microsoft framework =/
[20:47] <ikonia> CoreyBR: not really
[20:47] <dr_willis> childish slang is childish
[20:47] <ikonia> CoreyBR: reading up on the project and finding out where you git in seems a good start
[20:48] <ViaNocturna85> dr_willis: Depends really, I dont use it but as long as its not meme talk im cool with it lol
[20:48] <ikonia> "fit" in sorry
[20:48] <dr_willis> grumpy cat is cool.
[20:48] <dr_willis> ;-)
[20:48] <irishmac1022> is it typical for windows to run a disk check after installing ubuntu alongside it?
[20:48] <escott> irishmac1022, yes
[20:48] <ViaNocturna85> dr_willis: yes...that lingo lol
[20:48] <irishmac1022> escott: thank you
[20:48] <u01010> what is big diffrence between fedora and ubuntu?
[20:49] <escott> u01010, rpm
[20:49] <ikonia> u01010: two totally different distros
[20:49] <ViaNocturna85> u01010: There are many differences, the biggest being the packages and its managers
[20:49] <irishmac1022> ubuntu trumps all!
[20:49] <CoreyBR> i usually make scripts here in mIRC, does ubuntu have any open IRC program that i can modify and create scripts?
[20:49] <Justin_jtb7rmv> can dr_willis going to vnc in linux my computer please
[20:49] <ikonia> CoreyBR: ubuntu has many IRC clients
[20:50] <IdleOne> need a little help installing grub on 12.04. I did a clean install but grub failed to install, now booted from a live USB, tried the grub docs but when I do "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" I get an errorcannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)
[20:50] <ikonia> IdleOne: have you mounted /dev and /proc with a bind mount
[20:50] <k1l_> Justin_jtb7rmv: that is not how the support here works. ask a precise question and the users in here will try to help
[20:50] <u01010> for home user which one is better?
[20:50] <ikonia> u01010: neither/both - personal choice, nothing more
[20:50] <CoreyBR> i'm checking the disc for defects, thanks for the tip dr_willis
[20:51] <IdleOne> ikonia, I am not sure how to accomplish this
[20:51] <k1l_> u01010: that is not a question for a ubuntu support channel. better ask in #ubuntu-discuss
[20:51] <PackageSystemBro> hi. i just tried to install ati graphic card drivers for ubuntu 12. that broke my system. after opening the tty then and typing "sudo apt-get purge fglrx*" i can reboot in graphics mode. but my package system is now broke
[20:51] <u01010> there is some tools like system-config in fedora can I use them in ubuntu?
[20:51] <ikonia> hang on, let me pull it out of the doc
[20:51] <ikonia> !grub2
[20:51] <PackageSystemBro> unknown graphic card and it tells me "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:51] <PackageSystemBro> fglrx-amdcccle: Depends: fglrx but it is not installed"
[20:51] <ikonia> the bots gone
[20:51] <ikonia> u01010: no
[20:51] <ikonia> u01010: ubuntu has it's own tools
[20:51] <Justin_jtb7rmv> i want runing unrealircd in linux
[20:52] <ikonia> Justin_jtb7rmv: you've said that 10 times
[20:52] <ikonia> Justin_jtb7rmv: how can we help you ?
[20:52] <CoreyBR> i have an issue with my wifi adapter, the signal is stronger in Win7 than its in Ubuntu, is there any easy way to fix this?
[20:52] <PackageSystemBro> how can default unity display drivers be restoerd?
[20:52] <ikonia> IdleOne: have you got the grub2 re-install page
[20:52] <k1l_> Justin_jtb7rmv: that is no problem
[20:52] <IdleOne> ikonia, I do
[20:53] <ikonia> IdleOne: pass me the link please so I can find the bit you need
[20:53] <IdleOne> ikonia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Installing.2BAC8-Reinstalling.2BAC8-Moving_GRUB2
[20:53] <Justin_jtb7rmv> can k1i going to vnc in linux my computer please
[20:53] <dr_willis> !find unrealircd
[20:53] <k1l_> Justin_jtb7rmv: no
[20:53] <ikonia> Justin_jtb7rmv: no, we are not going to do that
[20:53] <dr_willis> Justin_jtb7rmv: clarify whats stopping you from  your goal?
[20:54] <ViaNocturna85> Justin_jtb7rmv: We dont do VPN here, please tell us where you are having trouble and people here can try and help you
[20:54] <ViaNocturna85> VNC*
[20:54] <BoozeWooz> from hi
[20:54] <BoozeWooz> hmm looks like this 10.04 version is older but longer suported, niice
[20:54] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: don't start again
[20:54] <ikonia> IdleOne: just looking
[20:54] <IdleOne> ikonia, no rush
[20:56] <BoozeWooz> so there isnt a way of downgrading ubuntu? i found some "fixups" but, trying some gave me very much dependancy wrongdoings..
[20:56] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: there is no downgrade as you where told earlier
[20:56] <dr_willis> Justin_jtb7rmv: a guide. but not all steps will apply to you.  http://www.l33ts.org/forum/Thread-Tut-UnrealIRCd-Setup-on-Ubuntu-Tut
[20:56] <PackageSystemBro> need to restart...
[20:57] <BoozeWooz> huh
[20:57] <Flannel> BoozeWooz: Reinstalling is your only recourse.
[20:57] <BoozeWooz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[20:57] <BoozeWooz> i did this some time ago (i think it was +- 2 years?)
[20:57] <BoozeWooz> but it messed up very badly, so ye had to reinstall from cratch
[20:58] <ikonia> it doesn't work
[20:58] <dr_willis> otheres have ran mineceaft on 12.04 or 12.10 frim what ive seen
[20:58] <ikonia> there is no downgrade
[20:58] <BoozeWooz> you tried it? ikonia?
[20:58] <dr_willis> 12.04 would be the safest option sunce its lts.
[20:58] <BoozeWooz> what errors it gave?
[20:58] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: it doesn't matter - it doesn't work
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> i have already 12.04, but like i said, it gave me much bugs and older versions didnt. so its worth a try
[20:59] <ikonia> BoozeWooz: re-install, or stick with 12.04
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> theres this new shiny boxware, windows server 2012 ;D
[21:01] <ikonia> IdleOne: are https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing is listing some different info than the web page I was trying to reference
[21:01] <IdleOne> ikonia, I am trying the chroot method now.
[21:02] <IdleOne> ikonia, I'll ping if I have any issues.
[21:02] <ikonia> please do
[21:03] <CoreyBR> ikonia i have an asus eeepc and i'm having signal problems with my wifi does ubuntu have any tool to fix this problem?
[21:04] <ikonia> CoreyBR: depends, if the singal problem is down to a poor driver, or a poor reception in general, no
[21:04] <CoreyBR> its strange because when i was using live cd the signal was perfect. After the installation my wifi signal cant stay 1min connected, i keeps disconnecting every 30-45sec
[21:05] <PackageSystemBro> anyone here that can assist me with my display drivers? would be great
[21:05] <ikonia> CoreyBR: that's odd
[21:05] <Sheikhmak> hey guys, chromium won't launch apps, it loops back to a new page, regardless the app, magnet links for transmission, sop:// links for sopcast, software center for apps link, they all loop back to a new tab or new page
[21:05] <CoreyBR> ikonia in other SO the signal is OK, probrably its a poor driver then :/
[21:06] <CoreyBR> i bought this netbook wondering that an asus would be a good choice but eeepc has a poor driver list
[21:06] <IdleOne> ikonia, when I "sudo chroot /mnt"  I get: chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash' : No such file or directory.
[21:06] <ikonia> IdleOne: what's your chroot command ?
[21:07] <guntbert> IdleOne: you have to bind mount several trees before
[21:07] <IdleOne> ikonia, I did " for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done " then " sudo chroot /mnt "
[21:08] <ikonia> IdleOne: ok, so that's trying to do the mount bind
[21:08] <escott> IdleOne, is your system actually mounted at /mnt or at something like /mnt/subdir
[21:08] <ikonia> IdleOne: check that it's mounted first
[21:09] <IdleOne> /dev/sda1 on /mnt
[21:09] <phunyguy_t430s> the order is to mount the system to /mnt, then bind mount the needed directories, then chroot.
[21:09] <IdleOne> ikonia, all those devices appear mounted on /mnt
[21:09] <ikonia> IdleOne: so can you chroot /mnt /bin/bash ?
[21:10] <guntbert> IdleOne: did you see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692144 ?
[21:11] <Sheikhmak> so I can confirm this, firefox will launch the magnet apps, after you click on a link, but chromium won't anyone has an idea of what is going on?
[21:11] <IdleOne> ikonia, not sure how?
[21:11] <ikonia> IdleOne: exactly like that
[21:11] <Meris> I'd like to have my Left Alt key back, because I like it to have other functions beside launching the dash. How can I reclaim my (especially Left) Alt Key?
[21:11] <ikonia> sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[21:12] <IdleOne> ikonia, I get the same error as before
[21:12] <escott> IdleOne, sda1 doesn't have a /bin/bash then. its not an ubuntu system root
[21:13] <IdleOne> hmm, think i am just going to try to reinstall.
[21:13] <ikonia> IdleOne: /mnt/bin/bash
[21:13] <ikonia> check if it's there
[21:13] <Meris> Can I disable the dash for certain apps, thus freeing up my Alt-key to do other things instead of launching the dash?
[21:14] <IdleOne> ikonia, escott guntbert thanks for the help. Going to try a clean install again and hope grub gets installed this time.
[21:14] <guntbert> Meris: <alt> doesn't launch the dash - it invokes the HUD
[21:15] <PackageSystemBro> i really would love to restore at least the default vga drivers for ubuntu :(
[21:15] <Meris> guntbert, yes indeed, but regardless of what it launches, can I disable the HUD for certain apps, freeing up the Alt key?
[21:16] <fas> When I'm in vim within a tmux pane, does anyone know how I can still switch panes without exiting vim?
[21:17] <guntbert>  Meris go to system settings/keyboard/shortcuts
[21:17] <xangua> what is the comand to reset pulse-audio configuration¿ thanks
[21:17] <guntbert> Meris: there select "launchers" - on the rigth side you find the setting for the hud
[21:18] <Meris> guntbert, thanks. I do like the HUD, but I'd like to disable it for certain apps only. Is that possible?\
[21:19] <guntbert> Meris: "certain apps"? not to my knowledge - but assign a different shourtcut to it?
[21:20] <phunyguy_t430s> I am using XChat and trying to get my startup apps situated, I have it start Xchat with the command line option to start minimized to system tray, and I have the xchat-indicator package installed so that I don't have to worry about the window popping up at login.  Problem is, if I launch XChat after that it seems to start a new session. and leave the other one backgrounded.  Any ideas?
[21:20] <Meris> guntbert, that's a good workaround for now. Thanks.
[21:21] <guntbert> Meris: You're welcome
[21:25] <phunyguy_t430s> brb
[21:27] <u01010> is it posibale to change compiz with another thing?
[21:27] <PackageSystemBro> need help with my vga drivers in ubuntu unity 12
[21:27] <guntbert> u01010: I thought you were using "server"
[21:28] <u01010> I have a ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop
[21:28] <u01010> both of them
[21:28] <phunyguy_t430s> Yeah this isn't working right,  if I select Xchat in the indicator applet, it opens a whole new window instead of connecting to the existing window.
[21:29] <Troy^> Hello, Well i was trying to install gnome15 which is a third part drivers created for my logitech g110 keyboard. I don't know why but it seems to have broken my apt-get This is my pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1421970/ Please advise on what i could do for it to ignore this missing directory etc.
[21:29] <u01010> right now I am useing ubuntu desktop 12.04
[21:29] <IdleOne> phunyguy_t430s, known issue I believe, xchat doesn't seem to minimise to launcher.
[21:29] <PackageSystemBro> !help default vga
[21:29] <PackageSystemBro> !help vga
[21:29] <phunyguy_t430s> If I start with the application minimized via "xchat --minimize=2", it starts a new window if I launch the app to foreground it.
[21:29] <IdleOne> phunyguy_t430s, use alt+tab to switch back to xchat when you minimise it
[21:30] <Justin_jtb7rmv> do u know abe
[21:30] <phunyguy_t430s> IdleOne, --minimize=2 minimizes to the tray (blacklisted)
[21:30] <Justin_jtb7rmv> do u know abe?
[21:30] <guntbert> u01010: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.
[21:31] <u01010> I like unity but i think its unstable with compiz
[21:31] <xangua> how do i reset pulseaudio configuration¿ thanks
[21:33] <djin> hello
[21:33] <djin> i am new at ubuntu
[21:33] <Pe3k> hello, may somebody help with automount ? it is turned on, but does not work. I have no idea what to check...
[21:34] <djin> how kan i install flashplayer on my xubuntu ??
[21:34] <Troy^> Pe3k: what are you trying to autmount? Is this a external HDD?
[21:34] <u01010> djin: flashplaye add on for firefox or just flashpaleyr?
[21:34] <Pe3k> Troy^: flash memory
[21:35] <xangua> djin: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-adobe
[21:35] <Pe3k> Troy^: I am able to do it using mount or pmount, but automatically it does not work
[21:35] <phunyguy_t430s> are there any other IRC clients besides Empathy that integrate well with the Unity desktop?
[21:35] <u01010> gnash its ok
[21:36] <djin> ok i am gonna try if is rady whit upgrade
[21:36] <Troy^> Pe3k: I never use flash memory. Not really familiar with that problem though. Are you sure automount does flash memory?
[21:36] <xangua> djin: sorry, is adobe-flashplugin ; you can also just install xubuntu-restricted-extras to install adobe flashplayer, audio & video codecs and openjdk for java plugin
[21:36] <escott> Pe3k, why aren't you using udisks? are you running a different flavor of ubuntu?
[21:37] <djin> Reading state information... Done
[21:37] <djin> E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-adobe
[21:37] <Pe3k> Troy^: I mean USB harddrive, SD card, ...
[21:37] <Troy^> OH I feel silly now.
[21:37] <bekks> djin: Which Ubuntu do you have?
[21:37] <Pe3k> Troy^: I have ubuntu
[21:37] <Pe3k> escott: I have ubuntu
[21:37] <escott> Pe3k, if you have vanilla ubuntu udisks should be doing your mounting. automount is just going to cause conflicts
[21:38] <Sheikhmak> djin how you liking it, i'm on lubuntu right now and it was a royal pain to get most of of the things that came natural with ubuntu and unity. so how you liking it
[21:38] <Pe3k> escott: ok, maybe is it udisks what does not work :) ...
[21:40] <Pe3k> escott: I attach flash memory, check that it is correctly recognized using dmesg, see it in fdisk -l, ...but it is not mounted automatically
[21:41] <escott> Pe3k, try "udisks --mount /dev/whatever
[21:43] <shPikachu> guys im editing flubox's startup, i want to run some app as superuser
[21:43] <shPikachu> is it enough to do "su app"
[21:43] <shPikachu> ?
[21:43] <Pe3k> escott: ok, it works .. "Mounted /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sdb1 at /media/A11B-425E"
[21:43] <ikonia> you don't su to an app
[21:43] <shPikachu> i mean
[21:43] <shPikachu> sudo
[21:43] <ikonia> su is "switch user" not "switch app"
[21:44] <louemat> floodbot3, how to fix messages in ppa's that failed to be reached in boot up, it list 8 that could not download all repository indexes
[21:44] <ikonia> shPikachu: if the application is X11/graphical gksudo $application
[21:44] <shPikachu> ok
[21:44] <shPikachu> would it prompt for pass?
[21:44] <Pe3k> escott: but how to set it for auto mode ?
[21:44] <escott> Pe3k, ok. so the question is why udisks is not being triggered on plugin. could be a udev rules issue or that the udisks-daemon crashed
[21:44] <escott> Pe3k, do you have any entries in fstab
[21:44] <ikonia> shPikachu: depends, but it will certainly need authenticating if it's not got an auth token active
[21:45] <morvit> HI
[21:45] <Macuser> How can I see if two nicks I made for irc are on one account for a server?
[21:45] <Pe3k> escott: only my HDD (sda6 sda7)
[21:45] <ikonia> Macuser: the guys in #freenode an help you
[21:46] <matanc> Hey guys, I've been told that all the videos that were watched on youtube / online on linux are actually downloaded to a temp folder somewhere and can be accessed before you restart the system. Is that true?
[21:46] <bekks> matanc: No. Thats FUD, honestly.
[21:46] <shPikachu> ikonia : i tested it and it prompts for password
[21:46] <escott> matanc, yes there are ways to get at the video
[21:46] <shPikachu> ikonia : is it a way for doing automatic auth
[21:46] <shPikachu> ?
[21:47] <ikonia> shPikachu: you'd have to change the sudo rules to not prompt for a password
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> matanc  clive is a nice CLI tool to get videos
[21:47] <escott> Pe3k, ok. are you in the plugdev group? check "groups"
[21:47] <matanc> I guess that's packages I'll have to install?
[21:47] <shPikachu> ikonia : would it apply for all apps? can i disable prompting for a password just for one app?
[21:47] <matanc> Do using them require more bandwith?
[21:48] <bekks> matanc: ?
[21:48] <ikonia> shPikachu: you can create a sudo rule for one app, while leaving the others in the default config, sure
[21:48] <bekks> matanc: Just install a flash player.
[21:48] <Pe3k> escott: yes, plugdev is there
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> !info clive | matanc
[21:48] <escott> Pe3k, is udisks-daemon running? ps aux | grep udisk should show udisksd and udisks2-volume-manager
[21:48] <shPikachu> ikonia : tnx
[21:49] <PackageSystemBro> "fglrxinfo" tells me "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" which really sounds bad :( PLZ help me out
[21:49] <SystemParadox> Hi. I'm currently trying to install a basic tiny command line only version of Ubuntu 12.04.1 on an old PII laptop. I'm using the alternate install CD and it's been going for over 6 hours with no sign of stopping. The disk has been going mental for the whole time. What is going on? It took so long doing localegen I killed it in the end. Now it's at the configuring apt stage where it says 'retrieving file 3 of 3'. It's taken about an hour
[21:49] <SystemParadox> for each file. Why so long? The disk isn't that slow. Arch installed in 5 minutes like normal.
[21:50] <Pe3k> escott: "/usr/lib/udisks/udisks-daemon" and "udisks-daemon: polling /dev/sr0 /dev/sdb"
[21:50] <SystemParadox> unhelpfully, there is no top in the installation shell :(
[21:50] <ikonia> SystemParadox: I assume you're doing a net install ?
[21:51] <bekks> SystemParadox: But there is dmesg.
[21:51] <escott> Pe3k, polling. thats ok. what version of ubuntu are you running
[21:51] <w0rm-_x> What Ubuntu does not have anti virus?
[21:51] <phunyguy_t430s> If we find a couple bugs that may be duplicates in Launchpad, how can we tell whether or not they are? My question is in regards to 1080297 and 1081157
[21:51] <bekks> w0rm-_x: It does.
[21:51] <SystemParadox> ikonia, I'm just installing from the alternate CD. I may not have even reached that part yet
[21:51] <w0rm-_x> bekks not installed be default tho?
[21:51] <ikonia> SystemParadox: ok, so it's not a netinstall
[21:51] <bekks> w0rm-_x: Correct.
[21:52] <ikonia> SystemParadox: if you can do the install with the network cable unplugged
[21:52] <SystemParadox> bekks, dmesg doesn't say much
[21:52] <ikonia> that will remove any attempt to get to the internet to update
[21:52] <k1l_> w0rm-_x: the question is: does it need anti-virus
[21:52] <ikonia> see if that solves the issue
[21:52] <SystemParadox> it is unplugged
[21:52] <SystemParadox> has been the whole time
[21:52] <w0rm-_x> k1l_ can you answer that pleasE?
[21:52] <matanc> bekks, why does installing flash solve this?
[21:52] <ikonia> SystemParadox: that's interesting
[21:52] <Pe3k> escott: I think it is ocelot
[21:52] <w0rm-_x> bekks any good av for Ubuntu?
[21:52] <SystemParadox> what I don't understand is why there is so much disk activity
[21:52] <bekks> matanc: Because for watching youtube videos, you'll either need HTML5 or flash.
[21:53] <bekks> w0rm-_x: See the question k1l_ stated.
[21:53] <SystemParadox> it's clearly blocking on disk IO, but for why, it could have traversed the entire disk 20 times by now
[21:53] <k1l_> !antivirus | w0rm-_x
[21:53] <ikonia> SystemParadox: an excellent question
[21:53] <escott> Pe3k, maybe it changed somewhere in there. i do think its a bit odd that its polling
[21:53] <ViaNocturna85> w0rm-_x: Ubuntu doesnt need an av
[21:53] <escott> Pe3k, is sdb the correct device
[21:54] <Pe3k> escott: cat /etc/issue  : 11.10
[21:54] <SystemParadox> my only idea is that it's using a stupid amount of memory and keeps swapping, but it's got 196Mb which should be more than enough
[21:54] <w0rm-_x> viruses does not exist on linux?
[21:55] <w0rm-_x> ok what If I am using wine, and opened up a windows program that has a virus?
[21:55] <phunyguy_t430s> w0rm-_x, in order for AntiVirus software to be written for Linux, viruses have to first exist.
[21:55] <escott> Pe3k, things changed within the last year, so i don't have the same version of udisks. the polling seems weird, but its there. you might check your udev rules
[21:56] <ViaNocturna85> phunyguy_t430s: they do, but they arent very effective due to the structure of linux
[21:56] <phunyguy_t430s> true,
[21:57] <ViaNocturna85> w0rm-_x: what you would do is create wine bottles for every app, one messes up, the others still work
[21:57] <phunyguy_t430s> w0rm-_x, it is like sandboxing.
[21:58] <Pe3k> escott: should I do upgrade? ...to 12.04 using Update Manager?
[21:58] <escott> Pe3k, if you want to you can you will have to in april
[21:59] <w0rm-_x> right thanks guys
[21:59] <ViaNocturna85> w0rm-_x: your welcome
[22:00] <Pe3k> escott: I did not catch that ... I will have to in april??
[22:01] <escott> !eol | Pe3k
[22:02] <Pe3k> escott: ok, thanks, I understand what you meant now
[22:03] <satej99> has anybody found the gm45 crash solution please email me
[22:03] <satej99> satej99@yahoo.com
[22:03] <bugiam> can anyone explain how i go about installing this? http://pkgs.org/archlinux/archlinux-community-x86_64/snes9x-gtk-1.53-5-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz.html
[22:03] <auronandace> that was not wise
[22:04] <ikonia> bugiam: it's a tar package made for arch systems
[22:04] <ikonia> bugiam: so don't use it on ubuntu
[22:04] <bugiam> ok, this then? http://code.google.com/p/snes9x-gtk/downloads/list
[22:04] <ftruzzi> did the last update of kernel broke the virtualbox modules?
[22:04] <ikonia> bugiam: they are sourcevode tar's and pre-compiled binaries
[22:04] <bekks> ftruzzi: No. Just resetup them.
[22:05] <countley> hello how do i close port on ubuntu using
[22:05] <countley> ports*
[22:05] <bugiam> ikonia, ok. all i know is that i want to install latest snes9x. gonna use it in xbmc
[22:05] <ikonia> bugiam: I think snes is in the ubuntu package repos
[22:06] <bugiam> zsnes is, but not snes9x.
[22:06] <bugiam> i've downloaded snes9x-1.53-gtk-81-i386.tar.bz2 just need to install it somehow
[22:06] <ikonia> bugiam: I think snes is in the ubuntu package repos
[22:06] <ikonia> have you checked ?
[22:07] <bugiam> yes.
[22:07] <bugiam> i searched on http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=snes9x
[22:07] <ikonia> bugiam: then you're going to need either a binary package (bad idea) or to build it from source
[22:08] <bugiam> snes9x-gtk is on package repos, but not latest version. but i guess that will do then.
[22:08] <ikonia> !info snes9x-x
[22:08] <escott> !ufw | countley
[22:08] <bugiam> !info snes9x-gtk
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> !find snes
[22:08] <ikonia> what's the difference snes and zsnes ?
[22:09] <bugiam> they use different ways to emulate
[22:09] <bugiam> i already have zsnes installed. but it has pretty bad sound quality. something snes9x apparently doesn't have in the latest versions
[22:09] <countley> ubottu: cheers i think ill go with iptables
[22:09] <ses1984> i was wondering how i could, on logon, mount a samba share in a user's home directory using their own credentials
[22:11] <SystemParadox> what is the absolute bare minimum memory requirement for a bare minimum command line install of Ubuntu 12.04?
[22:11] <bekks> SystemParadox: Something between 64M and 128M.
[22:12] <DrGrov> Evening
[22:12] <SystemParadox> I have 96Mb (not 196Mb like I thought)
[22:12] <DrGrov> Wondering that is it better to install 12.10 or put in 12.04. What is the general opinion?
[22:12] <DrGrov> I saw that 12.04 is just a CD where as 12.10 seems to be a DVD.
[22:13] <bekks> DrGrov: Thats correct.
[22:14] <bekks> SystemParadox: And which CPU?
[22:14] <SystemParadox> 366MHz PII
[22:14] <DrGrov> bekks: Any major changes under the hood in 12.10 compared to 12.04?
[22:17] <phunyguy_t430s> !poll | DrGrov
[22:19] <ses1984> how do i configure a script to run when a user logs in
[22:19] <escott> ses1984, logs in how?
[22:19] <phunyguy_t430s> ses1984, which version of Ubuntu?
[22:19] <ses1984> sorry i forgot to mention i'm using 12.04
[22:19] <ses1984> logs in through the default gui log in screen
[22:19] <phunyguy_t430s> ses1984, if you type "startup applications" in the Unity Launcher you will find the applet.
[22:20] <countley> ok
[22:20] <phunyguy_t430s> you just add the command to run for the script.
[22:20] <DrGrov> phunyguy_t430s: Ok. Just thought I would ask that what has changed between 12.04 and 12.10. Just a simple question without any polling in mind.
[22:20] <phunyguy_t430s> DrGrov, I was referring to the question before that.
[22:20] <ses1984> hmm what if the user logs in with via ssh not through the gui log in screen
[22:21] <ses1984> i really want this script to happen every time a user logs in no matter what method
[22:21] <bekks> ses1984: Put it on his login shells profile.
[22:21] <DrGrov> phunyguy_t430s: Sure, I did not mean it as a poll type of question. But fine.
[22:21] <DrGrov> phunyguy_t430s: I will just leave it be and install something of those two.
[22:22] <phunyguy_t430s> DrGrov, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop
[22:22] <phunyguy_t430s> DrGrov, also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop
[22:22] <escott> ses1984, there is basically no way to cover all login methods
[22:23] <escott> ses1984, you can cover ssh logins via auth_keys, but then you have to config ssh to deny password logins
[22:24] <ses1984> what i would like the script to do is mount some network shares including samba/cifs with that user's credentials. so i'm not sure if i can put it in fstab because i don't want each system user to use the same samba account
[22:24] <ses1984> but maybe i'm approaching the problem from the wrong direction?
[22:24] <phunyguy_t430s> ses1984, does it have to be CIFS?
[22:25] <escott> ses1984, i would mount it at boot
[22:25] <phunyguy_t430s> the reason I ask is because sshfs is decent as well, and can be run in a login script.
[22:25] <escott> ses1984, alternately but an inotify watch on their home folders and mount on activity
[22:26] <DrGrov> phunyguy_t430s: Is it possible to update ex. LibreOffice easily with official PPA's?
[22:26] <ses1984> phunyguy_t430s: it could not be but that would require reconfiguring a bunch of other stuff. i guess it depends on what's more difficult: change away from cifs or figure out how to use cifs
[22:26] <ses1984> escott: if you mounted it at boot how can you get it to use the individual users samba account instead of one specified for the system at boot
[22:26] <phunyguy_t430s> ses1984, sshfs requires ssh runing on the server with the fileshares.  that is all.
[22:27] <bugiam> found a .deb of latest snes9x. nice
[22:27] <escott> ses1984, the same way you would do it with the way you are proposing. by specifying the correct parameters
[22:27] <ses1984> phunyguy_t430s i'm not sure how mounting with sshfs or cifs is any different...put it in the user's login script...seems pretty much the same either way
[22:28] <phunyguy_t430s> ses1984, let me tell you what I did.  I have a script that runs at login, and it monitors for the ssh server to be active on the current network, and if so, sshfs mount the share to the server, and symlink ~Music, ~/Pictures, and ~/Videos to it.
[22:28] <phunyguy_t430s> if the server drops off, the symlinks just become invalid until the server is mounted again.
[22:29] <ses1984> phunyguy_t430s: i still don't see how i need to switch to sshfs to do that
[22:29] <phunyguy_t430s> ses1984, for example, "sshfs username@server:/ ~servers/sshfs/servername" - and just set up key-based login for ssh.
[22:30] <phunyguy_t430s> ses1984, the other alternative is gvfs, which is buggy.
[22:30] <phunyguy_t430s> VERY buggy
[22:31] <Perry_> hi, can someone help me out a bit
[22:32] <Chaos7Theory> I'm curious, is Linux secure enough to the point where you shouldn't worry about antivirus protection, or should you not risk it and still consider something like Avast Linux?
[22:32] <ikonia> Chaos7Theory: it's secure enough as it has a different secuirty model
[22:32] <escott> Chaos7Theory, its not popular enough to be a major target thats the biggest factor
[22:32] <k1l> !ask | Perry_
[22:32] <ses1984> escott:  i'm not sure how that would work. if you moutned it at boot in fstab, then it's mounted for the whole system with one user account, i'm not sure how you could get around this with cifs mount parameters
[22:33] <k1l> !antivirus | Chaos7Theory
[22:33] <Chaos7Theory> But isn't that a bit of a fallacy, because it still has the potential, doesn't it? Blackhat hackers could always still do it as a proof of concept
[22:33] <escott> ses1984, you have one mountpoint for each user. doesn't seem that complicated
[22:33] <gorgonzola> Hello again! I'm having a weird problem: my video card (ATI M96; mobility radeon hd 4650) is supposed to have 512mb of memory, but the radeon driver only sees 256. Any ideas?
[22:33] <ikonia> Chaos7Theory: no
[22:33] <Perry_> alright, so I installed ubuntu yesterday, and had to restart for one of the updates and then it would not boot, like it would go past the red toshiba screen and then just black screen. Os now Im trying to reinstall and its stuck at the wifi connection part
[22:33] <phunyguy_t430s> ses1984, here is my script: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1422097/
[22:33] <ses1984> so you would mount it in advance for each user, regardless of whether they have logged in yet or not?
[22:34] <ses1984> phunyguy_t430s: thanks i'll takea  look at that
[22:34] <escott> Chaos7Theory, its a rather stupid factoid IMHO... but its !ot to argue about it. the fact is that windows is a better target. so it absorbs most of the attacks
[22:35] <ikonia> escott: submit an update to the factoid, improve it if you've got better wording
[22:35] <lollo> ciaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[22:35] <lollo> !list
[22:35] <Coreidan> anyone who thinks linux isn't vulnerable to attacks/viruses is delusional
[22:36] <ikonia> no-one said that
[22:36] <Coreidan> i said it
[22:36] <k1l> Coreidan: see the link from ubottu
[22:36] <ikonia> no one said it wasn't vulnerable
[22:36] <Coreidan> and i said it is vulnerable
[22:36] <orlok> Chaos7Theory: Yes, but IMHO, the line between virus, trojan and worm is getting increasingly blurred
[22:37] <phunyguy_t430s> Just because something is vulnerable, doesn't mean the vulnerabilities have been exploided successfully.
[22:37] <Perry_> the ubuntu 12.10 installer keeps getting stuck at the wifi part, anyone know a fix?
[22:37] <phunyguy_t430s> exploited*
[22:37] <ikonia> Perry_: disable wifi ?
[22:37] <Coreidan> you really think that linux has never been exploited before?
[22:37] <orlok> Chaos7Theory: I'd say, if you keep up to date with your software, you should be ok.
[22:37] <Perry_> i tried with that too, stull just there, the cursor is in the spinning stage
[22:37] <ikonia> Coreidan: no-one is saying that
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> orlok  i read several linux blogs daily and none ever mentioned a working virus - sounds exciting, tho
[22:37] <Perry_> still*
[22:38] <orlok> Chaos7Theory: Linux and other similar systems are more vulnrable to other sorts of attacks however
[22:38] <Coreidan> i'm asking a question, quit telling me someone isn't saying something...
[22:38] <ikonia> Coreidan: you're not asking a question
[22:38] <Chaos7Theory> It's not that hard to install the antivirus software I'm sure, just a matter of wondering if it's a waste of resources (RAM specifically) or not.
[22:38] <k1l> hey, can we move the virus-vulnerable discussion into the #ubuntu-discuss, please?
[22:38] <ikonia> Chaos7Theory: it's a waste of time
[22:38] <Coreidan> really?  usually sentences that have a question mark at the end imply a question
[22:38] <orlok> Chaos7Theory: I wouldent bother. If one ever starts propogating, i'm sure you will hear about it
[22:38] <ikonia> Chaos7Theory: the antivirus software scans for windows virus, so it's pointless
[22:39] <Chaos7Theory> ikonia: Alright.
[22:39] <phunyguy_t430s> Linux isn't a target.  End of discussion.
[22:39] <orlok> Even our PCI-DSS auditor agrees we dont need to bother with AV on our linux systems
[22:39] <Coreidan> linux may not be a popular target, but it's still a target
[22:39] <orlok> phunyguy_t430s: Sure linux is a target, its just that i think the common term of "virus" is no longer appropriate
[22:39] <Chaos7Theory> Coreidan: Best to move it to another channel regardless.
[22:40] <Coreidan> linux may not be a popular target for regular users, but if you administered a popular servier, you'd see you were a target for many attackers
[22:40] <orlok> Coreidan: hi there china!
[22:40] <ikonia> Coreidan: he's asking about anti-virus - he's been answered
 hey, can we move the virus-vulnerable discussion into the #ubuntu-discuss, please?  << Coreidan orlok etc.
[22:40] <andyj_09> hello room
[22:40] <orlok> I'm actually finalising documentation for work on how to harden an Ubuntu installation based on the CIS debian benchmarks. Its a pain.
[22:41] <orlok> There doesnt seem to be any standard guides on hardening ubuntu available
[22:43] <andyj_09> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my new asus laptop with win8 pre-installed and secure boot. I need help booting!!! any tips?
[22:43] <LuizAngioletti> I need a program called crossdev in Ubuntu. Can someone point me to the name of the package?
[22:43] <ikonia> LuizAngioletti: you sure it's "crossdev" ?
[22:43] <ikonia> not "crossover"
[22:45] <LuizAngioletti> ikonia: crossdev is a program for cross-compiling.
[22:45] <LuizAngioletti> ikonia: What is crossover?
[22:46] <ikonia> LuizAngioletti: something totally different
[22:46] <ikonia> is crossdev a comercial package ?
[22:48] <k1l> LuizAngioletti: dont know if its changed from 2009 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1299659
[22:50] <RickZilla> I was getting ready to install ubuntu on my desktop, took a look at my HD with gparted, and came across something I didn't expect. I took two screen shots http://rickscheibner.net/images/screen1.png and http://rickscheibner.net/images/screen2.png I ran chkdsk /f and the resulting message said "Windows cannot run disk checking on this volume because it is write protected." Do I need to reformat this drive and start all over?
[22:54] <scarrs> I need some help starting JACK audio server please.... I am a pro musician an would love to get some of the software working :)
[22:56] <phunyguy_t430s> scarrs, have you seen Ubuntu-Studio ?
[22:56] <phunyguy_t430s> !ubuntu-studio | scarrs
[22:56] <ikonia> scarrs: if you are a pro musician I would suggest using the industry standard tools with supported hardware
[22:57] <phunyguy_t430s> Fairly certain JACK audio is included in that.
[22:59] <Chaos7Theory> Another security-based question, in Ubuntu how does an administrative user differ from a normal one, and I'm assuming it's not the same as the root user?
[22:59] <k1l> !sudo | Chaos7Theory
[22:59] <ikonia> Chaos7Theory: basically it's got permission to use sudo
[23:00] <ikonia> that's the bottom line
[23:00] <LuizAngioletti> k1l: that thread doesn't have a solution...
[23:00] <k1l> LuizAngioletti: yes, because it seems to be a gentoo specific thing
[23:00] <ikonia> LuizAngioletti: you know you can cross-compile with gcc
[23:01] <scarrs> thanks guys... will report back
[23:01] <Chaos7Theory> ikonia, k1l: Thanks, I've been so used to sudo I just assumed any user was able to use it with the right password.
[23:01] <ikonia> Chaos7Theory: that's pretty much it
[23:06] <LuizAngioletti> ikonia: i'm looking for a toolchain... =P
[23:06] <ikonia> LuizAngioletti: build one (I appreciate not the quickest solution)
[23:06] <LuizAngioletti> How do ubuntuers cross-compile?
[23:07] <LuizAngioletti> ikonia: I wouldn't know how.. =/
[23:07] <ikonia> then why are you cross-compiling ?
[23:07] <ikonia> actually - that's not my concern
[23:07] <LuizAngioletti> ikonia: I don't mind. =) I'm trying to get the load off my atom laptop.
[23:08] <LuizAngioletti> and throw it at my dua-core.
[23:08] <LuizAngioletti> dual-core
[23:09] <LuizAngioletti> ikonia: how does one build one's own toolchain?
[23:11] <SystemParadox> how can I found out memory usage by process without top?
[23:11] <phunyguy_t430s> LuizAngioletti, it is just a matter of compiling for that architecture with your make options, if that is what you are asking.
[23:12] <escott> SystemParadox, you can check in /proc
[23:13] <SystemParadox> escott, I've been looking there, any hints what I can use in there?
[23:13] <phunyguy_t430s> SystemParadox, /proc/{pic}/mem
[23:13] <phunyguy_t430s> stack,
[23:13] <phunyguy_t430s> ec
[23:13] <phunyguy_t430s> etc**
[23:15] <phunyguy_t430s> {pic} was supposed to be {pid}
[23:15] <SystemParadox> phunyguy_t430s, mem gives an i/o error??
[23:15] <RickZilla> I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu with Win7. I looked at my disks in gparted and got this: http://rickscheibner.net/images/screen2.png No errors were found. Would a disk reformat fix the locked disk issue?
[23:15] <escott> SystemParadox, you really want meminfo
[23:16] <SystemParadox> /proc/meminfo isn't per-process
[23:17] <escott> SystemParadox, yeah you want a per pid version of that
[23:17] <phunyguy_t430s> I'm digging through some of the options, hang tight
[23:18] <SystemParadox> I don't understand why the installer doesn't have top- it's in busybox
[23:18] <phunyguy_t430s> SystemParadox, you can grep the output from /proc/{pid}/status...
[23:20] <RickZilla> I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu with Win7. I looked at my disks in gparted and got this: http://rickscheibner.net/images/screen2.png No errors were found. Would a disk reformat fix the locked disk issue?
[23:20] <SystemParadox> aha. Which item should I use from there? Are VmPeak or VmSize appropriate?
[23:21] <phunyguy_t430s> SystemParadox, I was hoping you would know
[23:21] <phunyguy_t430s> lol
[23:22] <OerHeks> RickZilla, but the previous screenshot1 shows problems, fix them in windows http://rickscheibner.net/images/screen1.png
[23:22] <escott> SystemParadox, you can always call "busybox top" if you need
[23:22] <SystemParadox> phunyguy_t430s, haha. VmSize looks about right. Thanks for the help
[23:22] <escott> SystemParadox, a missing symlink shouldn't stop you
[23:22] <techhelp> I TEEed some color text to a file, looks fine with cat, but vi I am seeing texts that look like "^[[0;37", ^[[0m.  Any idea how I can show the text correctly in vi?
[23:23] <SystemParadox> escott, applet not foun
[23:23] <escott> SystemParadox, well if you busybox doesn't have top compiled in...
[23:23] <SystemParadox> ok I think I found the main problem
[23:24] <RickZilla> OerHeks: No errors were found when I ran chkdsk /f
[23:24] <RickZilla> OerHeks: I'm just wondering if a reformat will do the trick...it's a new drive and I didn't do anything to it before I installed Win
[23:24] <escott> techhelp, those are terminal color codes, you should be able to strip those by passing through echo
[23:24] <SystemParadox> During the locale setup, the installer spawns TWO locale-gen processes, which is probably why that takes FOREVER. When I killed that, it seems that one came back
[23:25] <techhelp> escott?  Not sure I understand
[23:25] <SystemParadox> is there a way I can tell the installer to only use the normal C locale and not generate any?
[23:25] <OerHeks> RickZilla, you can try delete that ntfs partition, and redo that ntfs partition ( or leave it blank to install ubuntu on it)
[23:26] <escott> techhelp, tee did not strip the color codes when it wrote out the file. this will have some suggestions, but there are lots of ways. echo among other programs should be able to strip color codes http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8720508/bash-tee-remove-color
[23:27] <RickZilla> OerHeks: Would love to install ubuntu only. :-)  I was thinking a delete-reformat was in order, so that will be a big job that I'll do when I have more time next week. No ubuntu on the desktop for me until then I guess.
[23:28] <escott> SystemParadox, what installer are you using?
[23:29] <local_minimum> how to hide my ip from other IRC users?
[23:29] <escott> !minimal | SystemParadox this would seem most appropriate
[23:31] <SystemParadox> escott, I was using the alternate. Why is there an alternate and a minimal? Why can there not just be a single bare minimum installer CD that everyone uses. Once this system is installed, do an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server, etc.
[23:31] <k1l> local_minimum: ask in #freenode for a cloak. for more informations see the freenode faq
[23:31] <Nordom> what is a synaptic package? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=918023 <--- I also have an older version and want to upgrade it
[23:31] <escott> SystemParadox, alternate is the debian installer. minimal is minimal
[23:32] <SystemParadox> why is minimal not in the main downloads page?
[23:32] <ses1984> is there something similar to RHCSA for ubuntu? maybe not an official certification, but training materials the covers the same tasks?
[23:32] <escott> SystemParadox, its not appropriate for most people
[23:32] <k1l> SystemParadox: not to confuse the regular users
[23:32] <SystemParadox> I would be using this even if I wanted to install a full desktop system
[23:33] <SystemParadox> since a CD is out of date as soon as it has been burned, keep the CD as small as possible and download everything else
[23:33] <local_minimum> k1l: thanks
[23:34] <escott> SystemParadox, you could also do a deb-bootstrap
[23:34] <k1l> SystemParadox: that is your usecase
[23:34] <escott> SystemParadox, a bootstrap would probably be the least painful way to get your install done. assuming you have an ide controller in your more powerful system
[23:35] <phunyguy_t430s> without using silly third party repositories, is there a good way to install custom themes for Ubuntu?
[23:36] <phunyguy_t430s> (selectable under the appearance applet)
[23:44] <trism> phunyguy_t430s: the Appearance app has only hardcoded themes
[23:45] <phunyguy_t430s> hmm, fair enough, trism.  Can you just change colors?
[23:45] <robotti^> why there is no systemwide eq for PulseAudio?
[23:47] <trism> phunyguy_t430s: you have your choice of Ambiance, Radiance, the high contrast ones and maybe Adwaita, but you can use gnome-tweak-tool to select any theme you want (or gsettings directly)
[23:47] <phunyguy_t430s> trism that is OK.  I am just really worried about colors.  I just found on the web gnome-color-chooser
[23:47] <phunyguy_t430s> maybe that is what I need
[23:48] <trism> phunyguy_t430s: probably not very helpful since it seems to be gtk2
[23:49] <phunyguy_t430s> ahh.  https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/gnome-color-chooser/ is where I found it
[23:49] <trism> phunyguy_t430s: I don't think there is a straightforward way to change the colors without editing the theme now, unfortunately
[23:49] <phunyguy_t430s> I do remember reading something about gconf or gsettings
[23:49] <phunyguy_t430s> a WHILE back
[23:49] <phunyguy_t430s> and inputting hex codes for color
[23:50] <nkts> Hi, how to choose full disc encryption while installing ubuntu?
[23:50] <phunyguy_t430s> nkts, select the option for LVM and encryption at install time/
[23:51] <phunyguy_t430s> bbiab
[23:51] <nkts> phunyguy_t430s, and then luks encryption are used?
[23:51] <nkts> is*
[23:51] <Linuxuser1> Hey do you know what glibc version Ubuntu 12.04 uses so I can do apt-get install glibc-VERSION
[23:52] <Linuxuser1> I'm wanting to rebuild my glibc library
[23:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Thats a very imporntant library. why are you wanting to do that?
[23:53] <Linuxuser1> I may have deleted some of the header files
[23:53] <Dr_willis> You mean for compiling stuff?
[23:53] <Linuxuser1> Not sure which header files I deletedd
[23:53] <kiplitton> so what is a real time kernel for ?
[23:54] <BlueEagle> Linuxuser1: Can't you just restore them from the backup you made prior to messing around in the system?
[23:54] <Dr_willis> kiplitton,  from what i recall reading. audio recording, data aquisition, and other  time critical task.
[23:54] <Linuxuser1> Dr_willis I don't make backups on my linux machine. I don't have anything important on it nor do I use it a lot
[23:54] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,  you mean you need to reinstall the glibc files.. you can do that with apt. thats not the same as rebuilding
[23:54] <Linuxuser1> So how do I do it with apt
[23:54] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install glib(tab)
[23:54] <Dr_willis> !apt
[23:55] <Linuxuser1> (tab) ?
[23:55] <Dr_willis> yes.. use the tab key.. ya know.. the one that does file name completion..
[23:55] <Dr_willis> bit key.. left side of the keybord... has TAB written on it. ;)
[23:55] <Dr_willis> !tab
[23:56] <Linuxuser1> yay. I think the problem was with my glibc-doc
[23:58] <CoreyBR> sup guys, its installed :) I'm on ubuntu
[23:58] <CoreyBR> xD
[23:58] <CoreyBR> finally
[23:58] <Karlo_> Ctrl-D seems to be getting intercepted at a high level, causing the current window to be iconified or deiconified.  How do I disable or remap that?
[23:59] <Tiktalik> How can I install Oracle's JDK
[23:59] <kiplitton> so how do i get two finger swipe working on a Latitude E6500 ?