[07:55] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <gurgalof> morning
[09:49] <Laney> so! Does raring's nux now have The Bug fixed?
[09:49] <Laney> i.e. can I remove the pinning?
[09:55]  * Laney tries it anyway
[10:09] <hrw> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2012/12/10/how-to-fry-speakers-in-your-chromebook/ - for all chromebook users
[10:10] <infinity> hrw: I'm not sure I need to know how to destroy my hardware.
[10:10] <infinity> hrw: Perhaps "how not to fry..." would be more helpful? :P
[10:14] <suihkulokki> iirc you can break n900 speaker with alsamixer settings as well
[10:14] <Laney> heat oil. remove speakers. batter speakers. lower speakers into oil. wait five minutes. remove. eat. enjoy.
[10:21] <gurgalof> mm tasty speakers...
[10:22] <hrw> infinity: read post. you will understand title
[10:22] <davecheney> i'll have my chromebook medium rare, hold the onions
[10:22] <hrw> suihkulokki: do not have n900 anymore
[10:43] <suihkulokki> hrw: just pointing out that chromebook is not unique in providing a so raw interface for audio that you can physically overpower the speaker
[10:48] <gurgalof> i just got a system problem detected dialog while running sudo reboot on the nexus7
[10:49] <hrw> suihkulokki: understood
[15:46] <plars> ogra_: fwiw, I prefer manual flashing :)
[15:46] <plars> ogra_: but I already need to extract the bootimg, so if I have to do one more extraction step, it's not really a problem
[15:48] <plars> ogra_, xnox: also, not sure if either of you saw my question about this last week.  I was trying to get preseeding working on the nexus7 image and not having much luck.  Is there something special I'm likely missing here? I tried putting it both in the initrd as well as in the rootfs, but neither seemed to work for me
[15:48]  * xnox is yet to preseed oem-config on nexus7 images. and ogra is on holidays =)
[15:49] <xnox> plars: i am currently digging a hang in ubiquity, but getting pre-seeding to work is on my list. I have a few requests for various preseeds =/
[15:50] <plars> xnox: gotcha, hang is clearly more important :) Ping me if you have some information later on maybe?
[15:50] <xnox> plars: ack.
[15:50] <plars> thanks!
[15:51] <xnox> plars: there is automated test for oem-config preseeding, but I'm not sure if it preseeds the user-setup bit as well or not.
[15:55] <plars> xnox: it's *in* the preseed for oem tests currently, but I'm not sure that it really goes through the oem-config portion of the setup currently
[15:59] <dholbach> do we know if someone is working on the bluetooth upgrade issue?
[16:03] <sfeole> dholbach: i have no heard anything dholbach
[16:03] <sfeole>  /s/no/not
[16:03] <dholbach> ok
[16:38] <gurgalof> can i resize the 6gb partition to a size suitable for a 32GB nexus7 in raring? since there is only a image for the 8GB one
[17:02] <xnox> gurgalof: you can download the userdata image -> ungzip -> run sim2img -> then run make_ext4fs with options to make a bigger filesystem.
[17:03] <xnox> gurgalof: but the resulting image might end up to big to be flashable =/
[17:03] <gurgalof> how did the quantal images do it?
[17:07] <xnox> gurgalof: we generated three images for quantal. but essentially all images are generated using make_ext4fs
[17:08] <xnox> gurgalof: but it's a lot of time & space to build three.
[17:49] <Quintasan> ogra_: Is it possible to get ubuntu-core i.MX53 image that I can just dd to a card and expect it to boot?
[17:52] <gurgalof> xnox, you don't know which parameters they used for the quantal images?
[17:53] <vanhoof> gurgalof: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7/ubuntu-nexus7/build_script
[17:53] <vanhoof> nothing fancy
[17:53] <vanhoof> :)
[17:54] <vanhoof> gurgalof: you on 32G+3G?
[17:54] <vanhoof> if so, factor in partition 10 vs 9 for UDA
[17:54] <gurgalof> nope, just the normal 32GB
[17:55] <vanhoof> yeah that'll work w/ -t -x then
[17:55] <xnox> Quintasan: ubuntu core inherently comes without a kernel =)
[17:56] <Quintasan> uh
[17:56] <gurgalof> sweet, i need the extra space...
[17:56] <xnox> Quintasan: do you not like desktop image linked from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MX5 ?
[17:56] <Quintasan> xnox: What I want is a basic install, kernel + things that make apt work :P
[17:57] <Quintasan> xnox: Uh, no. Because I don't have any monitor to connect it to proceed with the installation nor I'm particulary inclined to remove a crapton of packages
[17:57] <infinity> Quintasan: We don't produce any mx5 images anymore, and for precise, it was only the desktop image.
[17:57] <Quintasan> infinity: I see, I'll just try installing the Linaro one then
[17:57] <infinity> Quintasan: You could use linaro's image tools to combine a Linaro hwpack with the ubuntu-core rootfs.
[18:52] <dxdemetriou> hello, I have the same question every time I'm thinking to flashing my smartphone or tablet, is there a possibility the device to go in unrecoverable mode and nothing can be do about it?
[18:54] <prpplague> dxdemetriou: there is always that possibility
[19:01] <dxdemetriou> are there devices for avoiding that (some place for checking about)? for example with jtag or with some recovery mode? I'm asking because I didn't tried anything yet, actually I'm waiting for x86 devices..
[19:02] <Tassadar> it also depends on the device, eg. chances of hard-bricking nexus 7 are very low, you can mess up "only" the bootloader
[19:02] <Tassadar> and you don't even touch bootloader if you just want to flash ubuntu
[19:03] <Snark> waiting for x86 devices!? Strange idea
[19:10] <Tassadar> and, as for the jtag - search for "unbrickable mod" - it also depends on the device
[19:19] <Tassadar> Somebody knows if kernel command line can handle parameters with spaces? Is it like bash, do I have to put it into quotes, like name="value with spaces"?
[22:25] <mjrosenb> are there directions for installing 12.10 on a pandaboard?
[22:25] <mjrosenb> http://omappedia.org/wiki/Prebuilt_ubuntu_binaries only mentions through 12.04
[23:03] <micahg> mjrosenb: is that an omap4 board?
[23:04] <micahg> (sorry I'm still not so clear on what's what with ARM)
[23:04] <mjrosenb> yes.
[23:05] <micahg> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ has a link for the arm desktop image
[23:07] <Tassadar> Ooh, 13.04 on Nexus7 has this nice "setup wizard"
[23:07] <Tassadar> do like)
[23:07] <davecheney> micahg: i'd stick with 12.04
[23:07] <davecheney> you can use the 12.04 installer, then dist-upgrade to 12.10
[23:07] <davecheney> but I have found that the 12.10 kernel is not as stable as 12.04
[23:07] <micahg> davecheney: heh, the question was about 12.10 :)
[23:08] <davecheney> that is to say, 12.04 -- rock solid, 12.10 -- not rock solid
[23:09] <Tassadar> hmm, but unity crashed after selecting text field, well, that is unfortunate)
[23:11] <mjrosenb> davecheney: I tried that once, and it was disastorous.
[23:12] <davecheney> mjrosenb: yeah, didn't work during the 12.10 alpha
[23:12] <davecheney> but worked well last time I tried
[23:12] <mjrosenb> davecheney: I tried last week
[23:12] <mjrosenb> now X doesn't start.
[23:12] <davecheney> mjrosenb: to be fair, I tried from a fresh 12.04 install
[23:12] <davecheney> not one that had been used
[23:13] <mjrosenb> davecheney: someone recommended that I shold just install 12.10 outright.
[23:13] <mjrosenb> rather than attempting to upgrade
[23:13]  * davecheney is sticking with 12.04
[23:14] <mjrosenb> it is funny because the installation directions on the 12.10 page make no mention of 12.10.
[23:16] <Ethernin> dannf, hey i've looked for the 12.04 arm version of ubuntu and not been able to find it?
[23:16] <Ethernin> davecheney,
[23:17] <Ethernin> davecheney, I could only find 12.10 and 13.04, can u link me to 12.04 for arm?
[23:17] <Ethernin> davecheney, I've got 2 nexus7's that i've been installing everything ubuntu I can on, playing with a lot of different desktop environments trying to find something freakin usable
[23:18] <Ethernin> XCFE and LXDE have been the most promising so far, but XFCE doesn't let you grab windows with your finger!
[23:18] <Ethernin> also the close and maximize icons in the window pane don't work either
[23:18] <davecheney> Ethernin: did you look here ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/
[23:19] <Ethernin> davecheney, I think so but lemme check, thank you sir!
[23:19] <davecheney> Ethernin: you didn't say which host you are looking for ?
[23:19] <Ethernin> davecheney, I assume Texas Instruments OMAP3 (Hard-Float) preinstalled desktop image is the correct one?
[23:19] <davecheney> Ethernin: for what host ?
[23:19] <Ethernin> Nexus 7
[23:20] <Ethernin> I would like to run 12.04 for the obviously stability reasons you just mentioned
[23:20] <davecheney> Ethernin: the nexus 7 images are 12.10 and 13.04 alpha
[23:20] <Ethernin> yeah
[23:20] <davecheney> there is no 12.04 available for nexus 7
[23:20] <Ethernin> got both those installed right now
[23:20] <Ethernin> RATS
[23:20] <davecheney> nobody has invented a time machine
[23:20] <Ethernin> yeah that's what i thought
[23:20] <davecheney> wrt stability, i was talking about the pandaboard, only
[23:20] <Ethernin> appreciate your input, was trying to get to the bottom of that
[23:20] <Ethernin> ah right on
[23:20] <Ethernin> how is the pandaboard?
[23:21] <davecheney> pretty good
[23:21] <davecheney> but not the king of the hill anymore
[23:21] <Ethernin> ya
[23:21] <davecheney> nexus 7 blows the doors off it for a dev platform
[23:21] <Ethernin> it's crazy how many quad core arm boards there are for devs now!
[23:21] <davecheney> got a friend with the samsung quad core
[23:21] <davecheney> which is also very good
[23:21] <Tassadar> hmm, I've installed today's 13.04 for nexus 7, but I can't finish the "setup wizard", because the on-screen keyboard does not show up - is this known issue?
[23:21] <Ethernin> yeah, i've been trying to basically turn it into a pentest platform
[23:22] <Ethernin> Tassadar,
[23:22] <Ethernin> Tassadar, yeah I had the same problem, u can either try to keep clicking the input fields or plug in a keyboard with OTG cable
[23:22] <Ethernin> that's what i did
[23:22] <Ethernin> but i had the same problem
[23:22] <Ethernin> u just have to keep tapping it
[23:22] <Ethernin> T t t tappp it in!
[23:22] <Tassadar> well...mine's kinda running from USB fladh drive now, so OTG is not really an option)
[23:22] <Ethernin> ah
[23:23] <Ethernin> u booted off a usb flash on the Nexus???
[23:23]  * Tassadar is tappin' it
[23:23] <Ethernin> lolz
[23:23] <Ethernin> I used fastboot to install myself
[23:23] <Ethernin> which is key when you need to recompile the kernel to do other things later
[23:23] <Ethernin> omg
[23:23] <Ethernin> installing the kernel is kind of a silly process on those things
[23:24] <Tassadar> yeah, grub would be handy in here)
[23:24] <Ethernin> for realz
[23:24] <Ethernin> so how did u get the nexus to boot off usb?  did you put the machine is fastboot mode?
[23:24] <Tassadar> guys at linaro are working on it, but I think it will not happen for n7 - locked/signed bootloader
[23:24] <Tassadar> kexec and magic, wait
[23:25] <Tassadar> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35279976
[23:25] <Ethernin> nice!  First time I've heard this is even POSSIBLE!
[23:25] <Ethernin> KICKASS
[23:25] <Tassadar> dammit)
[23:25] <Tassadar> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
[23:25] <Tassadar> this one
[23:25] <Ethernin> oh man this is AWESOME
[23:26] <Ethernin> so there is definitely potential for dual booting android and ubuntu...
[23:26] <Ethernin> wicked
[23:27] <Ethernin> Tassadar yo man, so I've been working on 2 Nexus7s quite a bit, and right now I'm trying to make the touchscreen actually usuable
[23:28] <Ethernin> I would also really like to get magick-rotation and multitouch working
[23:28] <Ethernin> so u can do all the cool stuff
[23:28] <Tassadar> What is wrong with it now?
[23:28] <Tassadar> oh, I think I've read that it stops working after a while...?
[23:29] <Ethernin> well, the touch screen desperately needs to be calibrated better, gnome-classic and unity are faily limmited and slow on it
[23:29] <Ethernin> actually with LXDE and XFCE it's pretty good (cept for the window panel problem in XFCE) but by default there is no multitouch support ect
[23:30] <Tassadar> one guy on XDA said that even KDE is faster than unity)
[23:30] <Ethernin> yeah KDE is the only one I haven't tried yet
[23:30] <Ethernin> I think ill try that right now
[23:30] <Ethernin> but im doubtful as KDE will definitely be a resource hog
[23:31] <Tassadar> yeah, I just find it...interesting..?
[23:31] <Ethernin> for sure
[23:31] <Ethernin> yeah I'll install kde right now and let u know