=== zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [07:55] good morning [07:58] morning === doko_ is now known as doko [09:49] so! Does raring's nux now have The Bug fixed? [09:49] i.e. can I remove the pinning? [09:55] * Laney tries it anyway [10:09] http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2012/12/10/how-to-fry-speakers-in-your-chromebook/ - for all chromebook users [10:10] hrw: I'm not sure I need to know how to destroy my hardware. [10:10] hrw: Perhaps "how not to fry..." would be more helpful? :P [10:14] iirc you can break n900 speaker with alsamixer settings as well [10:14] heat oil. remove speakers. batter speakers. lower speakers into oil. wait five minutes. remove. eat. enjoy. [10:21] mm tasty speakers... [10:22] infinity: read post. you will understand title [10:22] i'll have my chromebook medium rare, hold the onions [10:22] suihkulokki: do not have n900 anymore [10:43] hrw: just pointing out that chromebook is not unique in providing a so raw interface for audio that you can physically overpower the speaker [10:48] i just got a system problem detected dialog while running sudo reboot on the nexus7 [10:49] suihkulokki: understood === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun [15:46] ogra_: fwiw, I prefer manual flashing :) [15:46] ogra_: but I already need to extract the bootimg, so if I have to do one more extraction step, it's not really a problem [15:48] ogra_, xnox: also, not sure if either of you saw my question about this last week. I was trying to get preseeding working on the nexus7 image and not having much luck. Is there something special I'm likely missing here? I tried putting it both in the initrd as well as in the rootfs, but neither seemed to work for me [15:48] * xnox is yet to preseed oem-config on nexus7 images. and ogra is on holidays =) [15:49] plars: i am currently digging a hang in ubiquity, but getting pre-seeding to work is on my list. I have a few requests for various preseeds =/ [15:50] xnox: gotcha, hang is clearly more important :) Ping me if you have some information later on maybe? === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:50] plars: ack. [15:50] thanks! [15:51] plars: there is automated test for oem-config preseeding, but I'm not sure if it preseeds the user-setup bit as well or not. [15:55] xnox: it's *in* the preseed for oem tests currently, but I'm not sure that it really goes through the oem-config portion of the setup currently [15:59] do we know if someone is working on the bluetooth upgrade issue? [16:03] dholbach: i have no heard anything dholbach [16:03] /s/no/not [16:03] ok === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [16:38] can i resize the 6gb partition to a size suitable for a 32GB nexus7 in raring? since there is only a image for the 8GB one [17:02] gurgalof: you can download the userdata image -> ungzip -> run sim2img -> then run make_ext4fs with options to make a bigger filesystem. [17:03] gurgalof: but the resulting image might end up to big to be flashable =/ [17:03] how did the quantal images do it? === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:07] gurgalof: we generated three images for quantal. but essentially all images are generated using make_ext4fs [17:08] gurgalof: but it's a lot of time & space to build three. === gatox is now known as gatox1 === gatox1 is now known as gatox === awafaa is now known as FunkyPenguin === ssweeny is now known as AndroUser [17:49] ogra_: Is it possible to get ubuntu-core i.MX53 image that I can just dd to a card and expect it to boot? [17:52] xnox, you don't know which parameters they used for the quantal images? [17:53] gurgalof: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7/ubuntu-nexus7/build_script [17:53] nothing fancy [17:53] :) [17:54] gurgalof: you on 32G+3G? [17:54] if so, factor in partition 10 vs 9 for UDA [17:54] nope, just the normal 32GB [17:55] yeah that'll work w/ -t -x then [17:55] Quintasan: ubuntu core inherently comes without a kernel =) [17:56] uh [17:56] sweet, i need the extra space... [17:56] Quintasan: do you not like desktop image linked from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MX5 ? [17:56] xnox: What I want is a basic install, kernel + things that make apt work :P [17:57] xnox: Uh, no. Because I don't have any monitor to connect it to proceed with the installation nor I'm particulary inclined to remove a crapton of packages [17:57] Quintasan: We don't produce any mx5 images anymore, and for precise, it was only the desktop image. [17:57] infinity: I see, I'll just try installing the Linaro one then [17:57] Quintasan: You could use linaro's image tools to combine a Linaro hwpack with the ubuntu-core rootfs. === AndroUser is now known as ssweeny === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [18:52] hello, I have the same question every time I'm thinking to flashing my smartphone or tablet, is there a possibility the device to go in unrecoverable mode and nothing can be do about it? [18:54] dxdemetriou: there is always that possibility === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [19:01] are there devices for avoiding that (some place for checking about)? for example with jtag or with some recovery mode? I'm asking because I didn't tried anything yet, actually I'm waiting for x86 devices.. [19:02] it also depends on the device, eg. chances of hard-bricking nexus 7 are very low, you can mess up "only" the bootloader [19:02] and you don't even touch bootloader if you just want to flash ubuntu [19:03] waiting for x86 devices!? Strange idea [19:10] and, as for the jtag - search for "unbrickable mod" - it also depends on the device [19:19] Somebody knows if kernel command line can handle parameters with spaces? Is it like bash, do I have to put it into quotes, like name="value with spaces"? === robbiew is now known as robbiew-afk [22:25] are there directions for installing 12.10 on a pandaboard? [22:25] http://omappedia.org/wiki/Prebuilt_ubuntu_binaries only mentions through 12.04 === robbiew-afk is now known as robbiew [23:03] mjrosenb: is that an omap4 board? [23:04] (sorry I'm still not so clear on what's what with ARM) [23:04] yes. [23:05] http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ has a link for the arm desktop image [23:07] Ooh, 13.04 on Nexus7 has this nice "setup wizard" [23:07] do like) [23:07] micahg: i'd stick with 12.04 [23:07] you can use the 12.04 installer, then dist-upgrade to 12.10 [23:07] but I have found that the 12.10 kernel is not as stable as 12.04 [23:07] davecheney: heh, the question was about 12.10 :) [23:08] that is to say, 12.04 -- rock solid, 12.10 -- not rock solid [23:09] hmm, but unity crashed after selecting text field, well, that is unfortunate) [23:11] davecheney: I tried that once, and it was disastorous. [23:12] mjrosenb: yeah, didn't work during the 12.10 alpha [23:12] but worked well last time I tried [23:12] davecheney: I tried last week [23:12] now X doesn't start. [23:12] mjrosenb: to be fair, I tried from a fresh 12.04 install [23:12] not one that had been used [23:13] davecheney: someone recommended that I shold just install 12.10 outright. [23:13] rather than attempting to upgrade [23:13] * davecheney is sticking with 12.04 [23:14] it is funny because the installation directions on the 12.10 page make no mention of 12.10. [23:16] dannf, hey i've looked for the 12.04 arm version of ubuntu and not been able to find it? [23:16] davecheney, [23:17] davecheney, I could only find 12.10 and 13.04, can u link me to 12.04 for arm? [23:17] davecheney, I've got 2 nexus7's that i've been installing everything ubuntu I can on, playing with a lot of different desktop environments trying to find something freakin usable [23:18] XCFE and LXDE have been the most promising so far, but XFCE doesn't let you grab windows with your finger! [23:18] also the close and maximize icons in the window pane don't work either [23:18] Ethernin: did you look here ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/ [23:19] davecheney, I think so but lemme check, thank you sir! [23:19] Ethernin: you didn't say which host you are looking for ? [23:19] davecheney, I assume Texas Instruments OMAP3 (Hard-Float) preinstalled desktop image is the correct one? [23:19] Ethernin: for what host ? [23:19] Nexus 7 [23:20] I would like to run 12.04 for the obviously stability reasons you just mentioned [23:20] Ethernin: the nexus 7 images are 12.10 and 13.04 alpha [23:20] yeah [23:20] there is no 12.04 available for nexus 7 [23:20] got both those installed right now [23:20] RATS [23:20] nobody has invented a time machine [23:20] yeah that's what i thought [23:20] wrt stability, i was talking about the pandaboard, only [23:20] appreciate your input, was trying to get to the bottom of that [23:20] ah right on [23:20] how is the pandaboard? [23:21] pretty good [23:21] but not the king of the hill anymore [23:21] ya [23:21] nexus 7 blows the doors off it for a dev platform [23:21] it's crazy how many quad core arm boards there are for devs now! [23:21] got a friend with the samsung quad core [23:21] which is also very good [23:21] hmm, I've installed today's 13.04 for nexus 7, but I can't finish the "setup wizard", because the on-screen keyboard does not show up - is this known issue? [23:21] yeah, i've been trying to basically turn it into a pentest platform [23:22] Tassadar, [23:22] Tassadar, yeah I had the same problem, u can either try to keep clicking the input fields or plug in a keyboard with OTG cable [23:22] that's what i did [23:22] but i had the same problem [23:22] u just have to keep tapping it [23:22] T t t tappp it in! [23:22] well...mine's kinda running from USB fladh drive now, so OTG is not really an option) [23:22] ah [23:23] u booted off a usb flash on the Nexus??? [23:23] * Tassadar is tappin' it [23:23] lolz [23:23] I used fastboot to install myself [23:23] which is key when you need to recompile the kernel to do other things later [23:23] omg [23:23] installing the kernel is kind of a silly process on those things [23:24] yeah, grub would be handy in here) [23:24] for realz [23:24] so how did u get the nexus to boot off usb? did you put the machine is fastboot mode? [23:24] guys at linaro are working on it, but I think it will not happen for n7 - locked/signed bootloader [23:24] kexec and magic, wait [23:25] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35279976 [23:25] nice! First time I've heard this is even POSSIBLE! [23:25] KICKASS [23:25] dammit) [23:25] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403 [23:25] this one [23:25] oh man this is AWESOME [23:26] so there is definitely potential for dual booting android and ubuntu... [23:26] wicked [23:27] Tassadar yo man, so I've been working on 2 Nexus7s quite a bit, and right now I'm trying to make the touchscreen actually usuable [23:28] I would also really like to get magick-rotation and multitouch working [23:28] so u can do all the cool stuff [23:28] What is wrong with it now? [23:28] oh, I think I've read that it stops working after a while...? [23:29] well, the touch screen desperately needs to be calibrated better, gnome-classic and unity are faily limmited and slow on it [23:29] actually with LXDE and XFCE it's pretty good (cept for the window panel problem in XFCE) but by default there is no multitouch support ect [23:30] one guy on XDA said that even KDE is faster than unity) [23:30] yeah KDE is the only one I haven't tried yet [23:30] I think ill try that right now [23:30] but im doubtful as KDE will definitely be a resource hog [23:31] yeah, I just find it...interesting..? [23:31] for sure [23:31] yeah I'll install kde right now and let u know