| CarstenG | Hi at all | 16:00 |
|---|---|---|
| hannie | hi CarstenG | 16:00 |
| CarstenG | Hi Hannie | 16:01 |
| CarstenG | Hannie, you wanted to contact the translation teams of the finished languages. | 16:02 |
| CarstenG | Did you do this already? | 16:03 |
| hannie | Well, I have contacted 3 persons from the Malaysian team | 16:03 |
| hannie | But no one replied | 16:03 |
| hannie | I contacted them via Launchpad | 16:04 |
| hannie | I have generated the whole manual (Malay), 154 pages | 16:04 |
| hannie | I am trying to find someone to do the screenshots | 16:04 |
| CarstenG | Oh, bad, that they do not reply... | 16:05 |
| hannie | It is not very encouraging :( | 16:05 |
| CarstenG | But for the screenshots, it would be the best, if the malay team will do them. | 16:05 |
| hannie | Yes, but then I have to find someone who wants to do the job | 16:06 |
| hannie | I also talked to someone from the Croatian team | 16:06 |
| CarstenG | Theoretical, we can do this, too. But without ḱnowing the language it is more difficult... | 16:06 |
| hannie | Yes, I even have thought about inserting the English screenshots | 16:07 |
| CarstenG | Well, this I would avoid... | 16:07 |
| hannie | I thought you would say that ;) | 16:08 |
| CarstenG | Then it is only half complete... | 16:08 |
| CarstenG | It is another thing, if some applications are not yet translated to malay. | 16:08 |
| CarstenG | I don't know, if the GUI is completely translated to malay? | 16:09 |
| hannie | I can have a look in LP | 16:09 |
| hannie | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+translations | 16:13 |
| hannie | I have sent abuyop an email about a week ago, but he does not reply | 16:14 |
| hannie | abuyop has done most of the translating | 16:14 |
| hannie | Most of the gui is translated | 16:15 |
| CarstenG | Maybe he is in vacation? | 16:16 |
| hannie | Could be. I'll send him a reminder | 16:16 |
| hannie | done! | 16:18 |
| CarstenG | Mmmh, this link is the overall statistic, or? | 16:18 |
| CarstenG | Which include all package descriptions, for example... | 16:18 |
| CarstenG | Is there a kink only for GUI elements? | 16:19 |
| hannie | yes, just look at Malay | 16:19 |
| hannie | These are only the GUI packages | 16:19 |
| hannie | GUI both for the OS and applications | 16:20 |
| CarstenG | huu, then only 82 % of the German and 60 % of the Dutch GUI is translated? | 16:21 |
| CarstenG | I thought, the GUI is complete. :-) | 16:21 |
| hannie | Oh, but we are talking about Ubuntu, not the manual :) | 16:22 |
| hannie | You were asking about the GUI weren't you? | 16:22 |
| CarstenG | Yes, I mean Ubuntu itself. | 16:23 |
| hannie | ok, then the link is the right one | 16:23 |
| CarstenG | I mean, for the screenshots we need a translated GUI | 16:23 |
| hannie | In VB one of us can try to install Ubuntu in Malaysian | 16:24 |
| hannie | But I would prefer to have someone from the Malaysian team do the job | 16:25 |
| CarstenG | So what I was thinking about: We have the Dutch and German screenshots complete translated, but in this link I see German 82 % and Dutch 60 %. So I thought, there are packages included which dont affect the GUI. | 16:25 |
| hannie | Ah, the percentage does not mean a lot. | 16:26 |
| hannie | The 300 most important packages are translated | 16:26 |
| CarstenG | Well, you don't need to install the malay Ubuntu complete in VM. | 16:26 |
| hannie | So what do you suggest? | 16:26 |
| CarstenG | Only add the language packs to your existing installation, and create a user with the malay settin. | 16:27 |
| CarstenG | setting. | 16:27 |
| CarstenG | Then you can do screenshots in other languages. | 16:27 |
| hannie | You are right, just add a user and set his language to Malaysian | 16:27 |
| CarstenG | This is the way, I have done for some Dutch screenshots. :-) | 16:27 |
| hannie | I did the same with English (in my Dutch Ubuntu) | 16:28 |
| CarstenG | Yes, but as you wrote, the Malay team should do it themself. | 16:29 |
| CarstenG | Do they have a mailing list? | 16:29 |
| CarstenG | Then you can send you email to this list. | 16:29 |
| hannie | I will have a look, but I don't think so | 16:29 |
| hannie | This team does not use Launchpad to host a mailing list. | 16:30 |
| hannie | The answer is NO | 16:30 |
| CarstenG | mmh, ok | 16:31 |
| CarstenG | I will be back in some minutes. | 16:34 |
| cqfd93 | Hi All! | 16:43 |
| hannie | Hi Sylvie | 16:43 |
| hannie | and YoBoY | 16:44 |
| YoBoY | hi hannie | 16:44 |
| YoBoY | sorry for my jumps | 16:44 |
| hannie | ah, those internet connections! | 16:44 |
| YoBoY | it's not that. I'm moving my irc proxy to another server, and I'm doing some configuration changes at the same time :p | 16:45 |
| hannie | cqfd93, is the French manual (Precise-e2) ready to be published now? | 16:45 |
| YoBoY | not yet hannie | 16:46 |
| hannie | ok, patience, patience | 16:46 |
| YoBoY | (bonjour cqfd93 :* ) | 16:46 |
| cqfd93 | Bonjour YoBoY! | 16:47 |
| cqfd93 | Hannie: not yet, we still have to fix a big bunch pf typos, punctuation, do some rewordongs... | 16:47 |
| cqfd93 | *rewordings | 16:47 |
| hannie | ay, ay, it sounds familiar. It is quite a job. Respect. | 16:47 |
| cqfd93 | :-) | 16:48 |
| hannie | And we want the quality to be high, don't we | 16:48 |
| cqfd93 | Right! We are perfectionists! | 16:48 |
| hannie | I am now going to try and add a user in my VB-Ubuntu-Precise with language Malay | 16:50 |
| cqfd93 | Hannie, are you ready to publish precise-e2? | 16:50 |
| hannie | cqfd93, I have given Kevin the green light, but he is sooooo busy | 16:50 |
| cqfd93 | Good for you, but not for him ;-) | 16:51 |
| hannie | It appears the lulu printers do not like some of the things in our pdf | 16:52 |
| cqfd93 | Do you know what, and can you find a workaround? | 16:55 |
| hannie | Kevin has just bought some Adobe fancy stuff to overcome this | 16:56 |
| hannie | I guess we have to give him some time to find out if it works | 16:57 |
| hannie | hi freedomrun | 16:59 |
| freedomrun | hello hannie | 16:59 |
| cqfd93 | hi freedomrun | 17:00 |
| hannie | How are things going? | 17:00 |
| freedomrun | very well thank you, and you? | 17:00 |
| freedomrun | cqfd93, hello | 17:01 |
| hannie | busy as usual | 17:01 |
| cqfd93 | hannie, we may have the same problems with the French pdf? | 17:01 |
| hannie | cqfd93, by the time you have finished the problem may be fixed (hopefully) | 17:02 |
| CarstenG | Be back | 17:02 |
| hannie | wecome back, CarstenG | 17:02 |
| hannie | *welcome | 17:03 |
| CarstenG | Hi Sylvie | 17:03 |
| cqfd93 | Hi Carsten! | 17:11 |
| cqfd93 | hannie: you may be right, as someone in the French team definitely wants us to publish in 2013 (he's the one who sends us lots of fix suggestions, I mean hundreds of them... | 17:13 |
| hannie | Weel, I do hope we can publish both French and Dutch versions before the end of the year | 17:14 |
| hannie | *well | 17:14 |
| cqfd93 | So do I | 17:17 |
| CarstenG | Hannie, you wrote that you generated the malay manual. | 17:23 |
| hannie | Yes, I first fixed a few errors and the made the pdf | 17:23 |
| CarstenG | Did you fix the syntax error local on your system? | 17:24 |
| hannie | *then | 17:24 |
| hannie | what do you mean by syntax error local? | 17:24 |
| hannie | I fixed a lot of errors in the po file | 17:24 |
| hannie | Usually brackets and \\\\ | 17:24 |
| CarstenG | Well, they are fixed now on your computer, but are not available on LP. | 17:25 |
| CarstenG | This I mean with "local" | 17:25 |
| hannie | CarstenG, I just created a user "Ubuntu" in VB-precise with language Malay | 17:26 |
| CarstenG | And, does it work? | 17:27 |
| hannie | CarstenG, true, but I only want to upload the revised po file after having made contact with a member of the Malay team | 17:27 |
| hannie | CarstenG, yes, I cannot read a thing :) | 17:28 |
| CarstenG | Yes, that is right. | 17:28 |
| hannie | CarstenG, about Malay screenshots: | 17:28 |
| hannie | I will wait and see if abuyop will reply in the coming week | 17:28 |
| hannie | If not, I guess we will have to do the screenshots ourselves | 17:29 |
| CarstenG | I also thought about fixing the syntax errors, but the learning process for the malay team would be greater, if they would do it for themself. | 17:29 |
| godbyk | Hey, hannie. You said that the Dutch manual is ready to be published? (Sorry, I thought I was supposed to wait on you to finish something again. My mistake!) | 17:29 |
| godbyk | hannie: Which branch? precise-e2 or quantal? (Or both?) | 17:29 |
| hannie | hey godbyk | 17:29 |
| cqfd93 | hi kevin! | 17:29 |
| godbyk | Hey, Sylvie! | 17:30 |
| hannie | godbyk, precise-e2. I sent you an email last week to tell you it was ready to be published. NP! | 17:30 |
| godbyk | hannie: Okay. I may have missed it while I was away at the conference. (So much email!) Should I use the nl.po that's in the precise-e2 bzr branch or the one from Launchpad? | 17:31 |
| hannie | godbyk, glad you are with us again ;) Yes, I uploaded the last version to LP last week | 17:31 |
| hannie | godbyk, you can use our ubuntu-manual branch | 17:32 |
| hannie | There you also find the right screenshots | 17:32 |
| godbyk | hannie: Okay. I'll build it today and see if anything is amiss. I'll send you the final draft for your approval and then we can get it published. | 17:34 |
| hannie | godbyk, great! Looking forward to it | 17:35 |
| godbyk | I just received emails recently that 12.04e2 and 12.10 are finally 'under review' for the software center. Hopefully they'll appear there soon. | 17:36 |
| hannie | godbyk, I have added the malay .clo file to my Projects/precise-e2, so I will not upload to LP for the moment | 17:36 |
| hannie | It was only an experiment | 17:36 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: I received your email regarding the margin sizes. I'll look into that. At one point I know I added more lines per page for the US English edition, but I may not have made adjustments to the translated (A4) editions. | 17:37 |
| hannie | But I did manage to generate the complete Malaysian pdf file | 17:37 |
| godbyk | hannie: Cool! | 17:37 |
| hannie | I also just created a Malay Ubuntu user! | 17:38 |
| CarstenG | Hannie, sorry to be nit-picky, but 03-active-connection.png has still a to small font size. | 17:39 |
| hannie | CarstenG, I am going to have a look right now | 17:39 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: For which translation? | 17:39 |
| CarstenG | Dutch, precise-e2 | 17:40 |
| cqfd93 | godbyk: (about margin sizes) thank you | 17:40 |
| hannie | CarstenG, 03-active-connection.png is 276 x 123 pixels. You think that is too small? | 17:44 |
| hannie | I can make a new one | 17:45 |
| CarstenG | Hannie, I mean the font size, not the picture size. | 17:45 |
| CarstenG | Compare it with the english original, and you see, what I mean. | 17:45 |
| hannie | ah, let me see... | 17:45 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: I looked at the code, and it appears that the A4 versions should get a couple more lines per page than the US letter versions. | 17:59 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: I'll leave it that way for now, but we can take a look at it again during the raring branch. I might make a few other tweaks for raring, too. | 17:59 |
| cqfd93 | That would probably be good | 17:59 |
| cqfd93 | I mean, having one or two more lines, even in the precise-e2 and quantal versions, would be great! ;-) | 18:00 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: Oh, no.. I meant that they should already have one or two more lines compared to the US English version. | 18:02 |
| godbyk | A4 paper is taller and narrower than US letter paper. | 18:02 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: I just got an email from lulu.com saying there was a problem printing 12.10 again. But this time I'm pretty sure it's using the PDF that Jeremy generated for us. This is getting silly. | 18:03 |
| cqfd93 | godbyk: I think that having the bottom margin exactly the same height in both English and French versions would add one line to each page | 18:06 |
| hannie | CarstenG, I have just created a Dutch user in VB Ubuntu Precise to make a new screenshot, but... | 18:08 |
| hannie | the network manager menu is more simple because I only have a wired connection on this computer | 18:08 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: I'll take a look at the numbers I'm using for the A4 and US letter margins and see how they differ. | 18:09 |
| hannie | It only has 3 items: enable network, connection information and edit connections | 18:09 |
| cqfd93 | godbyk: thanks | 18:13 |
| hannie | CarstenG, I guess I'll have to accept 03-active-connection.png as is, unless you can upload a better one | 18:17 |
| CarstenG | ok, Hannie, I will try to create a new one. | 18:22 |
| hannie | thanks | 18:22 |
| * hannie is leaving. See you all | 18:30 | |
| cqfd93 | hannie and CarstenG: I just installed the Duch language pack on my precise machine (that has wi-fi),and made a screenshot: http://ubuntuone.com/7OGjlHMVqJgHiQLUad2ZN3 | 18:37 |
| cqfd93 | You can edit it with gimp to remove the items you don't want | 18:38 |
| CarstenG | Thanks Sylvie, but I did it myself. on your screenshot is again a mouse pointer ;-) | 19:27 |
| cqfd93 | It's easy to get rid of it in gimp ;-) | 19:29 |
| CarstenG | It’s easier not to capture it. ;-) | 19:41 |
| cqfd93 | ;-) | 19:42 |
| CarstenG | See you tomorrow. | 22:01 |
| CarstenG | Good night. | 22:01 |
| cqfd93 | see you tomorrow. Good night! | 22:03 |
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