| phunyguy_t430s | is it ever OK to tell someone to Google something? | 01:33 |
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| elky | phunyguy_t430s, asking for absolutes without providing context is a bit misleading. | 01:35 |
| elky | there are times. i can't say if your example is one of those. | 01:35 |
| phunyguy_t430s | someone is asking about initscripts in #ubuntu, and they were told to google it. | 01:36 |
| elky | I usually tell people what i googled for, and the post i selected, which not only gives them one example, but the tools to find other posts if the one i chose wasn't good enough | 01:37 |
| phunyguy_t430s | "I'm not about to explain how to write an init script here" they said. | 01:37 |
| elky | phunyguy_t430s, explain that they should not use "google it" as a stand-in for "i don't know." | 01:38 |
| * elky returns to doing work | 01:38 | |
| phunyguy_t430s | thanks. | 01:39 |
| * phunyguy_t430s parts | 01:39 | |
| Flannel | Although, | 01:39 |
| Flannel | meh. | 01:39 |
| elky | ? | 01:39 |
| Flannel | Well, creating an init script from scratch isn't exactly ontopic either. | 01:40 |
| Flannel | elky: Also, look at what you've done in #u :P | 01:40 |
| elky | le sigh | 01:41 |
| Hwkiller | Can someone explain to me why telling a user to go google a word they hadn't previously googled is harsh? | 01:42 |
| jrib | well giving new info to point where to google isn't bad imho | 01:42 |
| jrib | Hwkiller: depends on context | 01:42 |
| Hwkiller | The guy was wondering how to make a daemon execute on startup. I asked him "why not use an initscript? that's what they are for." He said "go on.." I told him to go google it. | 01:43 |
| Flannel | Hwkiller: Hi. In general "go google it" isn't an appropriate response to a support question. In this particular case, I think the policy of "there are no absolutes" may be more relevant. | 01:43 |
| Hwkiller | it wasn't harsh, it's just that he hadn't heard of that before, and 2) explaining how to write an init script is way too expansive for IRC support | 01:44 |
| Flannel | Hwkiller: We're not arguing. I think phunyguy_t430s just got a little overeager to interpret the guidelines. | 01:44 |
| Hwkiller | Ok... good to know | 01:45 |
| jrib | Hwkiller: ideally, you'd point to the relevant documentation or a specific search result. But giving specific terms if a factoid isn't handy and you can't/aren't willing to explain the details is okay imo | 01:45 |
| Hwkiller | sorry for coming off as defensive, I was just about be a little weirded out if phunyguy was right | 01:45 |
| jrib | he's closer to a solution anyway. And sometimes I'll do the same, and just urge them to ask if they aren't sure about something | 01:45 |
| Flannel | Hwkiller: No worries. | 01:46 |
| Hwkiller | alright, g'day | 01:46 |
| elky | It's kinda like walking into a library for the first time to ask for a book on a topic, and being told the book is "on the shelf" and having to find it without understanding the dewey system. | 01:50 |
| bazhang | <prakash> can anyone give me the link of redhat satellite iso | 06:16 |
| bazhang | always my first stop to find out about red hat : #ubuntu | 06:17 |
| bazhang | isn't that payware? | 06:17 |
| bazhang | tab to get grub? thats what tenX is saying | 06:22 |
| bazhang | <Nico_> bazhang: i need to move some jumpers to install ubuntu rigth ?? | 06:41 |
| bazhang | look like Nico_ is our friend 'Like" | 06:42 |
| bazhang | so via PM, Nico_ is in fact Like , from offtopic fame | 06:46 |
| ubottu | FloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (VixenGurl appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY) | 07:01 |
| VixenGurl | VixenGurl chu Amaranthus IdleOne mneptok k1l ubottu persia jrib Pici bazhang DJones ryanakca topyli Myrtti jussi TheDrums CarlFK jtrucks Unit193 Mamarok jpds pleia2 MrChrisDruif Jordan_U cprofitt kloeri head_victim Tm_T Tm_Tr AlanBell elky Corey lhavelund tsimpson bioterror holstein jayne Fuchs ikonia tomaw funkyHat nhandler Pricey marienz knome txwikinger tonyyarusso yano Dave2 bkerensa mrmist ubuntulog | 07:01 |
| VixenGurl | h00k Flannel | 07:01 |
| VixenGurl | VixenGurl chu Amaranthus IdleOne mneptok k1l ubottu persia jrib Pici bazhang DJones ryanakca topyli Myrtti jussi TheDrums CarlFK jtrucks Unit193 Mamarok jpds pleia2 MrChrisDruif Jordan_U cprofitt kloeri head_victim Tm_T Tm_Tr AlanBell elky Corey lhavelund tsimpson bioterror holstein jayne Fuchs ikonia tomaw funkyHat nhandler Pricey marienz knome txwikinger tonyyarusso yano Dave2 bkerensa mrmist ubuntulog | 07:01 |
| VixenGurl | h00k Flannel | 07:01 |
| === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth | ||
| bazhang | had him/her in PM as well | 07:09 |
| Tm_T | them (: | 07:10 |
| elky | that hostmask looks useful for reporting | 07:13 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1666 users, 1 overflows, 1667 limit)) | 10:29 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1673 users, 9 overflows, 1682 limit)) | 10:30 |
| bazhang | * Zoom (~cinka@nl6x.mullvad.net) looks like BoozeWooz | 16:22 |
| ikonia | tedious | 16:22 |
| bazhang | jrib hates Christmas! | 16:27 |
| jrib | :( | 16:28 |
| bazhang | <qasim_> its ubuntu 6 | 16:30 |
| bazhang | OH YEAH | 16:30 |
| jrib | I wanted to take care of it in pm and remove the ban, but that doesn't seem possible | 16:31 |
| bazhang | well it was iOS, so not so bad | 16:31 |
| bazhang | * [BoozeWooz_] (~cinka@46.21.99.29): cinka | 16:33 |
| bazhang | perhaps a broader ban is in order | 16:33 |
| bazhang | * Oggy` has quit (K-Lined) | 17:09 |
| Pici | Surely spamming your linkedin profile is a great way to get an Ubuntu job. | 19:05 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, Dark_Haseo said: he is the one asking for xp in an usb -.- | 19:05 |
| ikonia | did someone really do that ? | 19:05 |
| Pici | ikonia: Mike3620 in #ubuntu and #freenode | 19:05 |
| ikonia | idiot | 19:06 |
| Pici | oh the humanity | 19:08 |
| ikonia | is mint still shipping with #ubuntu as it's default xchat channel | 21:56 |
| k1l_ | dont think so | 21:56 |
| k1l_ | but (let me get that log back) | 21:56 |
| k1l_ | "It is actually a problem with a Linux Mint install but the guys in their IRC have directed me to you as they reckon you guys know more about these kind of things. " | 21:57 |
| k1l_ | that it just from this morning | 21:58 |
| ikonia | I just wondered what due to Magellanicus | 21:59 |
| ikonia | wizbit = dontknow | 22:01 |
| k1l_ | well, multiaccount nes could be a issue for the staffers, too | 22:01 |
| ikonia | it's not him | 22:01 |
| ikonia | it's some idiot bragging about it elsewhere | 22:02 |
| k1l_ | ok | 22:02 |
| ikonia | @mark #ubuntu JPMH tries to prove me wrong by making up command flags so he can call me out, but then when the man page proves him wrong has to "/part" | 22:37 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 22:37 |
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