[01:33] is it ever OK to tell someone to Google something? [01:35] phunyguy_t430s, asking for absolutes without providing context is a bit misleading. [01:35] there are times. i can't say if your example is one of those. [01:36] someone is asking about initscripts in #ubuntu, and they were told to google it. [01:37] I usually tell people what i googled for, and the post i selected, which not only gives them one example, but the tools to find other posts if the one i chose wasn't good enough [01:37] "I'm not about to explain how to write an init script here" they said. [01:38] phunyguy_t430s, explain that they should not use "google it" as a stand-in for "i don't know." [01:38] * elky returns to doing work [01:39] thanks. [01:39] * phunyguy_t430s parts [01:39] Although, [01:39] meh. [01:39] ? [01:40] Well, creating an init script from scratch isn't exactly ontopic either. [01:40] elky: Also, look at what you've done in #u :P [01:41] le sigh [01:42] Can someone explain to me why telling a user to go google a word they hadn't previously googled is harsh? [01:42] well giving new info to point where to google isn't bad imho [01:42] Hwkiller: depends on context [01:43] The guy was wondering how to make a daemon execute on startup. I asked him "why not use an initscript? that's what they are for." He said "go on.." I told him to go google it. [01:43] Hwkiller: Hi. In general "go google it" isn't an appropriate response to a support question. In this particular case, I think the policy of "there are no absolutes" may be more relevant. [01:44] it wasn't harsh, it's just that he hadn't heard of that before, and 2) explaining how to write an init script is way too expansive for IRC support [01:44] Hwkiller: We're not arguing. I think phunyguy_t430s just got a little overeager to interpret the guidelines. [01:45] Ok... good to know [01:45] Hwkiller: ideally, you'd point to the relevant documentation or a specific search result. But giving specific terms if a factoid isn't handy and you can't/aren't willing to explain the details is okay imo [01:45] sorry for coming off as defensive, I was just about be a little weirded out if phunyguy was right [01:45] he's closer to a solution anyway. And sometimes I'll do the same, and just urge them to ask if they aren't sure about something [01:46] Hwkiller: No worries. [01:46] alright, g'day [01:50] It's kinda like walking into a library for the first time to ask for a book on a topic, and being told the book is "on the shelf" and having to find it without understanding the dewey system. [06:16] can anyone give me the link of redhat satellite iso [06:17] always my first stop to find out about red hat : #ubuntu [06:17] isn't that payware? [06:22] tab to get grub? thats what tenX is saying [06:41] bazhang: i need to move some jumpers to install ubuntu rigth ?? [06:42] look like Nico_ is our friend 'Like" [06:46] so via PM, Nico_ is in fact Like , from offtopic fame [07:01] FloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (VixenGurl appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY) [07:01] VixenGurl chu Amaranthus IdleOne mneptok k1l ubottu persia jrib Pici bazhang DJones ryanakca topyli Myrtti jussi TheDrums CarlFK jtrucks Unit193 Mamarok jpds pleia2 MrChrisDruif Jordan_U cprofitt kloeri head_victim Tm_T Tm_Tr AlanBell elky Corey lhavelund tsimpson bioterror holstein jayne Fuchs ikonia tomaw funkyHat nhandler Pricey marienz knome txwikinger tonyyarusso yano Dave2 bkerensa mrmist ubuntulog [07:01] h00k Flannel [07:01] VixenGurl chu Amaranthus IdleOne mneptok k1l ubottu persia jrib Pici bazhang DJones ryanakca topyli Myrtti jussi TheDrums CarlFK jtrucks Unit193 Mamarok jpds pleia2 MrChrisDruif Jordan_U cprofitt kloeri head_victim Tm_T Tm_Tr AlanBell elky Corey lhavelund tsimpson bioterror holstein jayne Fuchs ikonia tomaw funkyHat nhandler Pricey marienz knome txwikinger tonyyarusso yano Dave2 bkerensa mrmist ubuntulog [07:01] h00k Flannel === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth [07:09] had him/her in PM as well [07:10] them (: [07:13] that hostmask looks useful for reporting [10:29] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1666 users, 1 overflows, 1667 limit)) [10:30] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1673 users, 9 overflows, 1682 limit)) [16:22] * Zoom (~cinka@nl6x.mullvad.net) looks like BoozeWooz [16:22] tedious [16:27] jrib hates Christmas! [16:28] :( [16:30] its ubuntu 6 [16:30] OH YEAH [16:31] I wanted to take care of it in pm and remove the ban, but that doesn't seem possible [16:31] well it was iOS, so not so bad [16:33] * [BoozeWooz_] (~cinka@46.21.99.29): cinka [16:33] perhaps a broader ban is in order [17:09] * Oggy` has quit (K-Lined) [19:05] Surely spamming your linkedin profile is a great way to get an Ubuntu job. [19:05] In ubottu, Dark_Haseo said: he is the one asking for xp in an usb -.- [19:05] did someone really do that ? [19:05] ikonia: Mike3620 in #ubuntu and #freenode [19:06] idiot [19:08] oh the humanity [21:56] is mint still shipping with #ubuntu as it's default xchat channel [21:56] dont think so [21:56] but (let me get that log back) [21:57] "It is actually a problem with a Linux Mint install but the guys in their IRC have directed me to you as they reckon you guys know more about these kind of things. " [21:58] that it just from this morning [21:59] I just wondered what due to Magellanicus [22:01] wizbit = dontknow [22:01] well, multiaccount nes could be a issue for the staffers, too [22:01] it's not him [22:02] it's some idiot bragging about it elsewhere [22:02] ok [22:37] @mark #ubuntu JPMH tries to prove me wrong by making up command flags so he can call me out, but then when the man page proves him wrong has to "/part" [22:37] The operation succeeded.