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lvmerAnyone got HDD price connections/coupons? Going to buy a bunch of 3TB HDDs this week. Best bet atm seems like amazon.com compared to newegg. Any help is welcome. :)01:05
jesusemelendezmhey there01:39
uvirtbotNew bug: #1088312 in setserial (main) "package setserial 2.17-47 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108831201:50
jeeves_mossIf I have the e-mail files from the %maildir% from my dovecot server, can I do anything with them to extract the e-mails out of the files to move them to my exchange server?02:15
ScottKjeeves_moss: I think openchange offers tools to do things like this.02:25
jeeves_mossScottK, really?  cool!  I'd like something that I can just point it to the maildir folder, then supply the creds, and have it do the move, but I have a feeling that isn't going to be that simple02:28
jeeves_mosslooks like your option is for client side.02:30
ScottKDunno.  I haven't used it, just recall people discussing it.02:51
ScottKA maildir is a maildir though, client or server side.02:51
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alex88hi guys, I've a server with byobu installed and enabled on login, when I ssh from my laptop I get an empty shell and none of the commands works (just the status bar is available) but when I login from another server in the lan I get the shell, since byobu nested shells are not enables..09:20
alex88how can I check what's happening?09:20
alex88seems due the high load (60)09:37
koolhead17alex88: LA 60 is it?09:42
alex88koolhead17, load, yes09:42
alex88not sure why, cpu is 10%, ram is 63%09:43
koolhead17alex88: interesting09:43
alex88koolhead17, wanna help debug?09:43
alex88a tip. htop never loads09:43
alex88apt-get hangs randomly09:43
koolhead17alex88: its happening because you running it with byobu is it?09:44
alex88nope, with byobu it neither spawns shell09:44
alex88without byobu I can get to shell, but launching htop gives a black screen09:45
alex88root@server1 ~ # uptime09:46
alex88 10:42:20 up 4 days, 20:54,  4 users,  load average: 73.03, 66.55, 48.2709:46
alex88root@server1 ~ # uptime09:46
alex88 10:46:30 up 4 days, 20:58,  4 users,  load average: 76.36, 71.57, 54.5409:46
alex88seems increasing :S09:47
alex8890 now09:53
alex88lol09:53
alex88neither iotop shows an high I/O load09:53
alex88that may cause high load due the md array09:53
alex88wait is at 0.2%09:55
uvirtbotNew bug: #1088411 in cinder (main) "Cannot attach volumes to instances if using NexentaStor driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108841110:09
schmidtm_hi guys, is there a chance to see libvirt 1.0 in quantal soon10:13
gemajamespage: we have an issue in smoke testing that seems to be in your area of expertise: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/108763010:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1087630 in ubuntu-meta "server minimal virtual installations are bloated" [High,Confirmed]10:28
jamespagegema, thanks for the poke - downloading and iso now to reproduce10:29
gemajamespage: thanks10:30
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alex88_if the server hangs on update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-31-generic10:47
alex88_will the server be bootable on reboot?10:48
vezqalex88_: probably yes, try to get it fixed10:49
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alex88_vezq, I had a byobu problem causing a load of about 130..10:51
alex88_and now it hangs every time I do dpkg --configure -a10:51
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kaushalHi10:54
kaushalI am running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Server OS on 64 bit architecture, I am not able to set it to IST10:55
kaushalany clue?10:55
alex88_kaushal, IST?10:55
kaushalIndian Standard time10:55
kaushalI did /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s -b -p 8 1.in.pool.ntp.org10:55
kaushaldpkg-reconfigure tzdata10:56
kaushalnothing worked10:56
kaushalrm /etc/localtime and ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Kolkata /etc/localtime10:56
kaushali dont have any clue10:56
kaushalbios shows the correct current time10:56
kaushalalex88_: any clue?10:56
alex88_kaushal, after ln -s tried to reboot?10:57
kaushalalex88_: i rebooted now10:58
kaushalalex88_: please give me a moment10:58
alex88_vezq, can I select an older kernel to boot on next reboot? so maybe it can avoid the initram problem11:01
kaushalalex88_: still no luck11:06
alex88_kaushal, dunno then :S I've never changed timezone11:08
alex88_you mean the time is not correct?11:08
alex88_vezq, seems I still have the old initrd http://pastie.org/550600311:11
alex88_so I can boot safely11:11
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jamespageDaviey, hmm - the d-i installer is back to blue in raring12:09
jamespagegema, a clean minimal install is still undersize; I suspect that the testing overlay may have increased12:13
gemajamespage: what do you mean?12:19
psivaajamespage: not sure if you mean utah for testing overlay, but i removed any utah related installations and still the size was larger,12:19
Davieyjamespage: blue?!12:20
jamespagepsivaa, my local fresh install of todays image is ~611MB12:21
Davieyjamespage: significant work went into changing the bulb to green!12:21
jamespageDaviey, I remember :-)12:22
psivaajamespage: is that i386?12:22
jamespagepsivaa, no - amd6412:23
gemajamespage: can you update the bug with your findings, so that I can reassign to the utah team?12:29
gemajamespage: sorry about that12:30
gemajamespage: correction, I will get nuclearbob to figure out the testing overlay and let you know for fixing the test case12:31
jamespagegema, fine12:31
jamespagebug updated12:31
gemajamespage: thanks12:31
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xslhello guys... i'm doing apt-get -s --no-install-recommends install lxc debootstrap libcap2-bin libpam-cap ( so i dont install cloud-utils - its like 10 more packages of "junk" )12:53
xslwill this limit any feature not related to cloud images for lxc?12:54
RoyKxsl: erm - just install the recommended packages - or are you low on diskspace?13:27
wiherekhi14:18
wiherekhow can I change the default smtp client?14:18
xslRoyK, well not anymore... had to reboot the server and increase LVM size :P14:30
xslgood thing i allways leave some free space unlocated14:30
RoyKxsl: agreed - I usually start off with a small /boot and a somewhat larger /, perhaps a small /var as well, depending on server role - and then just add space as I need it14:33
zulsmb: ping14:41
smbzul, hmmm?14:42
hggdhjamespage: good morning, or afternoon. Have you seen bug 1087241?14:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1087241 in ubuntu-server-iso-testing "The test code needs to be changed to accommodate the renaming of vmlinuz to vmlinuz.efi for amd64 desktop kernels" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108724114:42
zulsmb:  im going to upload a new xcp with fixed paths for xen-4.2 and the xenguest patch do you have anything extra?14:43
jamespagehggdh, i heard about the error but I'd not realized it was in ubuntu-server-iso-testing14:43
smbzul, No, not me. apw, do you have anything else (though I suspect nothing beyond)14:44
apwsmb, zul, nothing here14:45
zulsmb/apw: coolness14:45
xslRoyK, im a bit more .... complex wen i setup servers... i have like ... /boot / /tmp /usr /var /var/log /var/cache /home .... each with different set of mount options15:40
xslohhh and /dev/shm ofcourse15:41
xslbeside that... i have partitions shared trough lxcontainers so i can separate all kind of stuff15:41
xsltakes a while to setup ... but makes it more secure  IMHO15:42
xsls/more/bit more/15:42
SpamapSxsl: do you have good reason for all those partitions to be separate?15:54
SpamapSxsl: like, you say its "more secure" but thats such an overloaded word15:54
* mdeslaur raises eyebrow at "more secure"16:00
ScottKIt's "more secure" to turn the computer off.16:03
_rubenwell .. those partitions are shared between various instances, so that must be way secure :)16:05
rbasakSecure from an accident in /home from filling /var and breaking the system, I suppose16:09
uvirtbotNew bug: #1088540 in ec2-ami-tools (multiverse) "ec2-bundle-image gives error 'can't convert Fixnum into String'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108854016:26
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hallynstgraber: this could just be a cloud problem, but raring cloud images with /etc/network/interfaces enslaving eth0 to br0 seem to take forever to come up.16:54
hallynwhereas precise comes up immediately16:54
hallyn(can test later ona  vm to see what's actually going on, but thought you might know offhand if there's a known problem)16:55
stgraberhallyn: anything interesting in /var/log/upstart/?16:55
hallyncould still be several minutes before i can log in :)  will check16:55
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hallynstgraber: btw, lxc bzr tree is out of date...  do you have any idea why?17:40
stgraberhallyn: the importer is probably confused... let me fix it17:41
RoyKxsl: / /boot /var should do. /tmp can be on tmpfs, or bind-mounted to /var/tmp, having /usr on a separate filesystem is something very old-fashioned and really, I wouldn't recommend it, since a lot of things in /usr/bin is critical during bootup (even if it wasn't like that in the elder days)17:43
stgraberhallyn: try now17:45
hallynstgraber: ok, the quantal test just failed because of /usr/lib/lxc being moved.  bad test.17:48
hallyn:(17:48
hallynstgraber: bzr tree now uptodate, thanks :)17:50
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1088611 in cloud-init (main) "using random hostnames to detect dns proxies allows for false positives" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108861119:21
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BoomerBileI've just purchased 2 ssl certificates i'm going to activate... i have to choose from server types = apache openssl, apache modssl, apache raven, apache ssleasy, apache2 and apache + apache ssl.... which one does ubuntu ship with and how can i find out?19:55
Davieyadam_g: Has anyone done any work to open a bug task for cloud archive prior to upload?20:12
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adam_gDaviey: not sure what you mean?20:34
adam_gDaviey: for all of these? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/cinder/+bug/108525520:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1085255 in quantum "Meta bug for tracking Openstack 2012.2.1 Stable Update" [Undecided,New]20:35
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adam_gDaviey: once that gets into quantal-proposed, i was going to put together a script to tag all of the bugs affecting CA.20:39
stiv2kRoyK20:56
stiv2kping20:56
RoyKpong20:56
stiv2kim trying to setup munin on my server20:56
stiv2kbut this guide apparently sucks20:56
stiv2khttp://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/08/how-to-install-and-configure-munin-on-ubuntu-server-12-04.html20:56
RoyKapt-get install munin20:56
RoyKthat's a good start20:56
stiv2kyes it's installed20:56
stiv2kwhen i go to http://stiv2k.info/munin i get forbidden though20:57
RoyKtry http://localhost/munin20:57
stiv2koh shit20:57
RoyKit's allowed only from localhost per default20:57
stiv2ki know i changed that20:57
stiv2ki think i got it20:57
stiv2khttp://stiv2k.info/munin/ <-- working for you?20:57
RoyKyou'll want to change the hostname, though20:58
RoyKworks20:58
stiv2ki dont see any graphs though20:58
RoyKalthough I don't get any images20:58
RoyKcheck the apache logs20:58
Picistiv2k: has munin been running for enough time for it to pull data?20:59
RoyKit shouldn't show up before then20:59
RoyK(iirc)20:59
stiv2k[Mon Dec 10 15:58:44 2012] [error] [client 65.51.94.15] File does not exist: /home/steve/websites/stiv2k.info/cgi-bin, referer: http://stiv2k.info/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/index.html20:59
stiv2kno i just installed it20:59
Davieyadam_g: "i was going to put together a script to tag all of the bugs affecting CA" <-- okay, that is what i wanted to check :)20:59
PiciYou need to wait a few minutes for it to collect data.20:59
* RoyK needs some sleep21:00
stiv2kum21:00
stiv2kwhat is this fast cgi stuff21:00
stiv2kin the munin config21:00
RoyKfastcgi is a replacement for modphp21:01
patdk-lapno21:01
stiv2kdo i need it for munin21:01
patdk-laproyk, fastcgi is a replacement for cgi, not php :)21:01
RoyKpatdk-lap: well, yes21:01
stiv2kdoesnt look like its installed21:01
patdk-lapmunin does not use php21:01
RoyKstiv2k: it shouldn't need it - munin uses statically created pages21:01
patdk-lapyou either run it in cron, or dynamically via cgi/fcgi21:02
stiv2kok maybe i just need to wait21:02
patdk-lapfcgi kicks ass vs static21:02
stiv2kshould i enable it21:02
patdk-lapit's much more painful to enable21:02
patdk-lapand unless you are monitoring a LOT of things, not needed21:02
RoyKpatdk-lap: no reason to use fcgi with munin - it just collects data every five minutes anyway21:02
patdk-laproyk, how large of a munin install have you done?21:03
RoyKpatdk-lap: heh - six hosts21:03
patdk-lapwhen munin takes 3min for a quadcore cpu to generate the graphs, you rarely look at21:03
patdk-lapfcgi kicks it's but :)21:03
stiv2kRoyK you mean its more involved than a2enmod fcgi21:03
patdk-lapyou need to setup fcgi, setup munin for fcgi mode, then switch the munin.conf to use it21:04
stiv2kthe conf looks like it already is setup to use it if present21:04
RoyKI mean, using fcgi with munin makes no sense21:06
stiv2kwhy is it looking for cgi-bin21:07
stiv2k[Mon Dec 10 15:58:44 2012] [error] [client 65.51.94.15] File does not exist: /home/steve/websites/stiv2k.info/cgi-bin, referer: http://stiv2k.info/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/index.html21:07
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stiv2kRoyK, how do you change hte hostname21:09
RoyKstiv2k: /etc/hostname21:10
stiv2kno that one is set21:10
stiv2ksteve@pavilion:/var/log/apache2$ cat /etc/hostname21:10
stiv2kpavilion21:10
stiv2kmunin doesnt get it though21:10
patdk-lapdepends, thre are many ways21:13
patdk-laproyk, using fcgi makes perfect since for munin, why generate all those graphs every 5min, if you never view them, huge waste of cpu21:13
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patdk-lapfcgi makes the graphs only on viewing them21:14
patdk-lapwhere fcgi is quicker at it than cgi, cause of spawning overhead21:14
RoyKpatdk-lap: usually I use a dedicated machine for monitoring, so it doesn't make sense for that to sleep well21:14
patdk-lapwell for me, it was tking >5min to make them21:16
patdk-lapand that isn't good21:16
patdk-lapmonitoring lots of things on each machine, around 120 machines21:16
stiv2ki dont understand why its looking for cgi21:17
stiv2kpatdk-lap21:17
stiv2kcgi-bin i mean21:17
patdk-lapcause it needs the cgi/fcgi program to run21:18
patdk-lapthat is how it works21:18
stiv2kum21:18
patdk-lapthis is part of the manual setup that needs to be done21:18
patdk-lapcheck the munin website for instructions21:18
stiv2kbased on what i gathered from your and RoyK's conversation you make it seem like it doesnt need fcgi21:18
patdk-lapmost people don't need it no21:18
stiv2kok21:18
patdk-lapwithout it, you create all graphs every 5min21:18
stiv2kso why is my server giving errors21:18
patdk-lapwith it, the graphs are not made21:19
stiv2k[Mon Dec 10 15:58:44 2012] [error] [client 65.51.94.15] File does not exist: /home/steve/websites/stiv2k.info/cgi-bin, referer: http://stiv2k.info/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/index.html21:19
patdk-lapcause you enabled cgi mode21:19
stiv2ki didnt enable anything21:19
stiv2k:/21:19
patdk-lapsomething did, and munin is using cgi's for it21:19
patdk-lapinstead of the static files21:19
stiv2kmaybe ubuntu automatically installs it that way21:20
stiv2k?21:20
patdk-lapnot sure, I haven't used the offical munin package for a long time21:20
patdk-lapcause I've needed features it lacked21:20
stiv2koh21:20
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stiv2kgod i hate these guides online21:21
stiv2kthey are so incomplete and vague21:21
stiv2khttp://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/08/how-to-install-and-configure-munin-on-ubuntu-server-12-04.html21:21
patdk-lapwhy would you use a guide21:21
patdk-lapthe documentation is good21:22
stiv2k^ zero mention whatsoever about that21:22
uvirtbotstiv2k: Error: "zero" is not a valid command.21:22
patdk-lapthat assumes your not using cgi/fcgi21:22
stiv2kwell im not21:22
stiv2kbut apparently ubuntu configured it for me to use it21:22
stiv2kand it's not working21:22
stiv2kpatdk-lap, cant find how to change it from cgi to static on the munin docs either21:25
patdk-lapcomment out any line with cgi on it21:26
stiv2kpatdk-lap, they are..21:31
stiv2kpatdk-lap, do i have to run a script to gen the images or something21:32
stiv2kanyone?21:39
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stiv2kscrew all you guys, i got it to work on my own by adding one line21:50
stiv2kScriptAlias /cgi-bin /usr/lib/cgi-bin21:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #1088681 in tomcat7 (main) "startup script prevents use of IPv6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108868122:36
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hallynjdstrand: so the vnc virt-aa-helper-test patch was trivial, but the hugepages one stumped me.  Works fine with -f, but i can't get it to accept -F as an option.22:54
hallynI'd expect testme "0" "hugepages" "-r -u $valid_uuid -F /run/hugepages/kvm/**" "$test_xml"  to work23:01
hallynahs3: sigh, i can't remember now if there was anything i was goign to change before pushing netcf 0.2.2 to ubuntu raring23:41
hallyni feel like there was, but have looked everywhere and can't find anything.  and it builds/installs fine.  i guess i'll push...23:41
hallynzul: hey, when you get in tomorrow, would you mind syncing netcf from debian to raring?23:48
hallyn(0.2.2 should be in both sid and experimental)23:48
zulhallyn: i guess i could be bribed23:48
hallynzul: with a big bowl of thanks?23:51
zulhallyn: of course23:51
hallynzul: thanks :)23:55

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