[08:49] <diplo> Morning all
[09:03] <popey> yo
[09:09] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:09] <hoover> morning all
[09:54] <JamesTait> Happy Monday, folks! :-D
[09:55] <christel> happy monday
[09:55] <Laney> :3
[09:56] <hoover> Same to you JamesTait
[09:57] <JamesTait> hoover, :)
[09:57] <JamesTait> christel! HAI! It's been, like, ages! ;)
[09:57] <christel> it has!
[09:57] <JamesTait> How are you my lovely?
[09:59] <christel> i appear to be pregnant
[09:59] <christel> this is causing me a great deal of confusion
[10:00] <christel> however, i think i am mainly happy about it!
[10:00] <Daviey> JamesTait: I am good honey, how are you poppet?
[10:00] <hoover> oh ye gawds, congrats
[10:00] <christel> thank you!
[10:00] <hoover> Got a "due date" yet?
[10:00] <JamesTait> christel, :-O  Congratulations! :-D
[10:01] <JamesTait> Daviey, I'm well sweetie-pie. ;)
[10:01] <Daviey> christel: Wonderful news!
[10:01] <christel> danke JamesTait! hoover no! i am just about to call my doctor to say "er uhm so when i said i was never having another child... well i lied and could you make an appointment with the midwife for me"
[10:01] <christel> OH has already decided that it must be a girl this time (i have no idea why he thinks we'll have a girl)
[10:03] <JamesTait> christel, 50/50 chance. ;)
[10:03] <christel> this is true!
[10:03] <Daviey> not quite actually
[10:03] <christel> (i think he just really likes pink)
[10:03] <JamesTait> Daviey, shh! Details!
[10:03] <Daviey> Technically, there is a slightly higher chance of having a female
[10:03] <hoover> hehe
[10:04] <hoover> Girls are great, at least while they're still small and cuddly ;)
[10:04] <Daviey> christel: Took me 2 children before i worked out the shenanigans that cause them.
[10:04] <JamesTait> Daviey, never let the details get in the way of a good generalisation. Have I taught you nothing? :-P
[10:04] <hoover> Mine turned 13 in September, she's already showing signs of "nastiness" ;)
[10:04] <Daviey> JamesTait: hah
[10:05]  * JamesTait has two boys.
[10:05] <JamesTait> Aged 6 and 9, and already behaving like teenagers.
[10:05] <christel> Daviey: haha i think i am not partaking in any further sexual congress, ever
[10:06] <hoover> my "boy" will be 22 in January...
[10:06] <hoover> he's sometimes saving lives as a paramedic. ;-)
[10:06] <JamesTait> hoover, I can think of worse things to be doing. ;)
[10:06] <christel> awww :D
[10:06] <hoover> JamesTait: certainly.. he moved out in October, what a blessing that was ;-)
[10:07] <christel> haha
[10:07] <JamesTait> :-D
[10:07] <hoover> Now we can finally be "friends" again.
[10:07] <JamesTait> Funny how that works out.
[10:08] <AlanBell> congratulations christel :)
[10:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> What AlanBell says christel
[10:10] <christel> danke schoen! <3
[10:10] <hoover> Indeed
[10:11] <hoover> I guess it's a genetic thing.. those little buggers want to spread themselves far and wide throughout the population ;-)
[10:11] <hoover> So dad tends to be interested in kicking out his male offspring
[10:43] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:47] <hoover> morning brob
[10:47] <brobostigon> morning hoover
[10:57] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:58] <brobostigon> morning davmor2
[10:58] <hoover> lunchtime, brb
[12:28] <brobostigon> is there a way, to analyse my bitlbee logs, to work out, the patterns people use FB messanger/chat. ?
[12:34] <davmor2> brobostigon: does it not list where it has come from?  <me@facebook> hello  for example?  in which case you could pull out any that match that pattern with re
[12:36] <brobostigon> davmor2: it logs via irssi, so yes, using something like wc, matching said string could work, but i want analysis, of time the person logs on that kind of thing.
[12:37] <brobostigon> i wonder if pisg could do it, which does something similer for irc channels.?
[12:38] <davmor2> brobostigon: I guess so as it is viewed as another channel I guess
[12:39] <brobostigon> davmor2: true, it just has no chat in it,
[13:58] <directhex> which package do i uninstall to get real scrollbars back? i forgot
[13:59] <bashrc> don't like the "hunt the scrollbar" experience?
[14:00] <directhex> they're not useful like this. they're a visual indication of where i am, but they're essentially terrible for scrolling. i've seen their style used on touchscreen interfaces, where the entire view is a scroll area, and that's fine. but with a mouse?
[14:01] <SuperMatt> isn't it just overlay-scrollbar?
[14:01] <mgdm> even with a touchscreen you still don't get an idea of how far down the screen you are
[14:01] <mgdm> that bugs me on iOS and Mac OS X
[14:02] <mgdm> (as well as Unity)
[14:02] <SuperMatt> personally, I've always thought the overlay scrollbars should require a simple setting change if you don't want them
[14:02] <SuperMatt> I think there are three areas where settings should trump removal: overlay scrollbars, shopping lenses (one setting per lens) and global menus
[14:02] <TheOpenSourcerer> personally, I've always thought the overlay scrollbars should be taken out at dawn and shot.
[14:03] <bashrc> They introduce an element of mystery to the OS.  Where is the scrollbar?
[14:12] <AlanBell> they are a bit fiddly but I have kind of got used to them
[14:14] <SuperMatt> tbh, I never click the scrollbar
[14:15] <SuperMatt> I've either got a mouse wheel, or I can do two finger/edge scrolling
[14:16] <mgdm> I use a trackpad but I till like to see how far down the document I am
[14:16] <AlanBell> global menu is a hard thing to like though, I have switched to Gnome Shell for a bit
[14:17] <SuperMatt> global menu is weird, but I think that's because it's hidden
[14:17] <AlanBell> unity was confusing chromium and generally failing as a window manager
[15:42] <mungbean> hello, who was setting up ratbox ircd the other day?
[15:42] <mungbean> having some probs
[15:44] <mungbean> getting messages about ban.db
[15:44] <mungbean> bandb - bandb failure: Unable to open sqlite database: unable to open database file
[15:53] <MooDoo_> hello
[15:54] <brobostigon> hello MooDoo_
[16:46] <Azelphur>   Anyone know if BT Infinity has fair usage policy limits on Infinity 2 (76mbit)?
[16:58] <davmor2> MooDoo_:
[16:58] <MooDoo_> hello davmor2 :)
[16:58] <davmor2> MooDoo_: you're an imposter you have a tail what have you done with the real MooDoo?
[16:59] <MooDoo> :p
[17:06] <kaushal> Hi
[17:06] <kaushal> I dont see anything on adobe reader installed on Ubuntu 11.10
[17:06] <kaushal> meaning the menu items or tools. it is blacked out. Any clue?
[17:49] <stevepdp> afternoon all
[17:53] <jacobw> evening ubunteros
[17:56] <MartijnVdS> \o jacobw
[18:03] <jacobw> how do MartijnVdS ?
[18:08] <davmor2> MooDoo: 'ow am ya
[18:08] <MooDoo> davmor2: on the late shift and early start tomorrow so not 3 bad
[18:08]  * MartijnVdS wraps a few more gifts
[18:09] <davmor2> MooDoo: not going for sleep no then
[18:09] <MartijnVdS> "3 bad", sounds very bad ;)
[18:09] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah finish at midnight start at 8am
[18:10] <davmor2> MooDoo: ejit
[18:10] <MooDoo> davmor2: necassary evil mate
[18:11] <MartijnVdS> Are you both even IRCing with your local vowel variations now? ;)
[18:11] <davmor2> MooDoo: I wouldn't say you were necessarily evil at all,  you just choose to be ;)
[18:12] <MooDoo> davmor2: I have been evil in ages, i mean, when was the last time we abused czajkowski
[18:12] <MooDoo> s/have/haven't
[18:12] <MartijnVdS> 'aven't
[18:12] <MartijnVdS> "oy 'aven't dun it!"
[18:13] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: will you speak propa like what i does
[18:13] <jacobw> my father's family is from brum
[18:13] <jacobw> i think i've turned out well considering
[18:13] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: "Oi 'av'n dunit!" :P
[18:13]  * MartijnVdS was there 2 weeks ago.. didn't notice too much unintelligibility
[18:15] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: where in birmingham though
[18:16] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: where they had (have?) a _german_ christmas market
[18:16] <MartijnVdS> Around New St, Bullring, etc.
[18:17] <shauno> ugh, they're doing that here too.  not a fan
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> shauno: it was a bit strange, to fly west and end up on a German market.. but it was nice enough
[18:18] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: so you were surrounded by germans and you think the English level was good, that's cause they all learnt it out of the same text book ;)
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: Didn't your royal family come from Germany at some point? ;)
[18:19] <shauno> at some point?  they were practically on the last boat
[18:20] <shauno> the christmas market is just a pain here because we don't have much in the way of a town square in the first place, so they've just made the center even more unmanagable, right when it least needs it
[18:20] <jacobw> germans speak better english than most english people
[19:10] <dwatkins> I only learned grammar when I learned German, we never actually studied English grammar at school.
[19:18] <jacobw> i'm glad i know what the akusativ and the dativ are now :)
[19:43] <GentileBen> MartijnVdS: did you see Van Persie's goal?
[20:19] <MartijnVdS> GentileBen: Who's that then?
[20:23] <xnox> I feel like bloppy blop bloppy.
[20:23] <MartijnVdS> xnox: a bit floppy?
[20:23]  * xnox learned the greatest blop in UK history.
[20:24]  * xnox can't pronounce blobby correctly =)
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> bwobby?
[20:24] <xnox> MartijnVdS: Mr. Blobby =)
[20:24] <xnox> ah. i does sound like bwobby sometimes.
[20:36] <solarcloud_3scrn> Mr Blobby .. wonde who has the copyright on that ?
[20:36] <solarcloud_3scrn> **wonder
[20:37] <solarcloud_3scrn> .. I dont think it's the BBC, anyway.
[20:38] <mgdm> Probably the production company that made it
[20:38] <solarcloud_3scrn> really , ya think ?
[20:39] <mgdm> 'It depends'
[20:39] <mgdm> rights for TV productions are weird
[20:42] <solarcloud_3scrn> G+ broke .. again !
[20:44] <MartijnVdS> solarcloud_3scrn: uh oh?
[20:45] <MartijnVdS> solarcloud_3scrn: http://www.google.com/appsstatus
[20:45] <jacobw> i would put it in a sandwich and eat it
[20:47] <jacobw> ymmv
[20:58] <solarcloud_3scrn> G+ is definately broke today .. I think I will message wikinews .. hang-on.
[21:01] <jacobw> it'd be cool if you got wikinews to update on something on the same day that it happened
[21:04] <MartijnVdS> My title bar says "Error 500 (Server error)!!1"
[22:41] <daftykins> anyone recommend a simple IMAP mail server? i've seen comments about Dovecot so far
[22:43] <directhex> we use dovecot in production
[22:44] <daftykins> i'm basically converting the email from Mail.app in OS X to Outlook for Mac 2011 :)
[22:44] <daftykins> there are no import/export functions that work :D
[22:45] <daftykins> a friend suggested cheating by setting up a quick mail server
[22:45] <directhex> what, drag to imap on one client, drag from imap on the other?
[22:46] <daftykins> yeah
[22:46] <daftykins> the alternative is paying $30 :)
[22:46] <daftykins> for: http://www.weirdkid.com/products/emailchemy/
[22:49] <dwatkins> gmail supports IMAP, I think
[22:49] <dwatkins> setup an account or create a folder and drag it to and from there, perhaps
[22:49] <dwatkins> I guess it depends on the volume of mail and the speed of your connection (and the nature of the mail and how paranoid you are)
[22:49] <daftykins> yeah
[22:50] <daftykins> 5GB set i think
[22:50] <dwatkins> might take a while to upload, then
[22:51] <daftykins> the existing account is IMAP but once the DNS changes it might be lost
[22:52] <daftykins> daubers: got a RAID situation you'd love :)
[23:30] <popey> *yawn*
[23:35] <daftykins> yup