didrocks | hey Mirv, sil2100 :) | 08:08 |
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didrocks | how was your week-end? | 08:08 |
didrocks | mmrazik: hey, how are you? | 08:48 |
mmrazik | didrocks: morning | 08:48 |
mmrazik | didrocks: whats up? | 08:48 |
didrocks | mmrazik: do you have a minute for a quick call with jibel? We have some autopilot-env requests | 08:48 |
mmrazik | sure | 08:48 |
didrocks | (also, let's check if jibel is available :)) | 08:48 |
Mirv | didrocks: hello, pretty fine, some family visiting etc | 08:53 |
Mirv | didrocks: how was yours? | 08:53 |
didrocks | Mirv: oh nice! :) Mine was excellent! It was the "fêtes des lumières" (light festival) in Lyon, so a lot of people (4 millions approx.) on the street and a lot of walking :) | 08:54 |
didrocks | but nice shows like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51G-Ewf4B2M&list=UUwsuhgq2VBY54f8Lez8wGEQ&index=3 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8hboL4N4yc&list=UUwsuhgq2VBY54f8Lez8wGEQ&index=1 | 08:54 |
didrocks | even if the videos don't reflect how beautiful and impressive this is :) | 08:54 |
didrocks | Mirv: I wanted to ask you about the compiz fullsceen opengl fix, where are we with this? | 08:56 |
Mirv | nice looking stuff, surely awesome seen live | 08:57 |
didrocks | oh yeah, it really is :) | 08:57 |
didrocks | mmrazik: starting a hangout and inviting you | 08:57 |
Mirv | didrocks: about 10 minutes of giving the quantal branch to you or so, so pretty good, all tested | 08:57 |
didrocks | Mirv: \o/ | 08:57 |
didrocks | Mirv: for precise, it will be disabled by default for now, right? | 08:58 |
didrocks | for the xorg guys to look it, isn't it? | 08:58 |
Mirv | we just have a habit of getting final ack from another team member, so waiting sil2100 to ack it | 08:58 |
didrocks | (in quantal, it's enabled by default) | 08:58 |
didrocks | great :) | 08:58 |
Mirv | didrocks: yes, like that, sil2100 is probably finalizing the phase-1 of precise compiz this week | 08:58 |
didrocks | Mirv: for precise, maybe we can push that to a ppa rather? | 08:58 |
didrocks | rather than going to the long SRU queue | 08:59 |
didrocks | what do you think? | 08:59 |
didrocks | and then, the xorg team can play with it | 08:59 |
Mirv | didrocks: it looks it's already there since Friday (similar to quantal that was there for good time) | 08:59 |
didrocks | oh good, can you ensure you/sil2100 speaks with the xorg guys then? | 08:59 |
Mirv | some arm build problem though, so needs tinkering | 08:59 |
didrocks | let's only push final work | 08:59 |
Mirv | didrocks: yes, will do | 08:59 |
didrocks | ok :) | 08:59 |
didrocks | thanks a lot! | 08:59 |
Mirv | np | 08:59 |
mmrazik | didrocks: is the invite out? | 09:01 |
* mmrazik still doesn't have anything | 09:01 | |
didrocks | mmrazik: it seems you are unknown on my tablet :p | 09:01 |
didrocks | I just added you to my circles… | 09:02 |
didrocks | ah here you are :) | 09:03 |
didrocks | mmrazik: won't it be more flexible that we give you dynamically a list of tests to run (with all tests for unity) and a list of packages to install from the ppa? | 09:25 |
didrocks | mmrazik: so that we don't bother you when the list changes | 09:25 |
didrocks | and you just generate from those list, it sounds easier for you? | 09:26 |
mmrazik | didrocks: it probably would but I'm not sure how exactly to do it. This is all controlled by UTAH so its in utah config. Thomi/Chris started to write some scripts that generate it but I just checked and they don't use it yet. | 09:27 |
mmrazik | and still have e.g. different preseed for the trunk and the release job | 09:27 |
didrocks | mmrazik: ok, so we'll probably need some more jobs, I'll detail everything by email :) | 09:28 |
mmrazik | ok | 09:28 |
mmrazik | if its more then it definitely makes the generation more urgent | 09:28 |
didrocks | yeah, because I thought of one thing | 09:28 |
didrocks | I'll detail your everything :) | 09:29 |
mmrazik | ok | 09:29 |
didrocks | in the email, it's easier | 09:29 |
apw | didrocks, i have just upgraded in quantal and my unity settings were reset again | 09:49 |
didrocks | apw: hum, I think you are suffering from bug #1063617, with a fix that was merged into compiz trunk 6 hours ago | 09:51 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1063617 in compiz (Ubuntu) "1:0.9.8+bzr3319-0ubuntu1 regression: keeps setting gsettings keys to wrong values" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1063617 | 09:51 |
didrocks | https://code.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz/compiz.fix_1063617.8/+merge/138801 | 09:51 |
didrocks | but maybe you can check with duflu ^ | 09:51 |
apw | ok ta | 09:51 |
didrocks | apw: I can only see that, I hope it's the same issue | 09:52 |
freedomrun | gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.window-state start-with-status-bar true is impossible in 13.04 ??! | 09:54 |
duflu | apw, didrocks: By smspillaz' last estimate it would require 9 merge proposals to fix. Only 8 have landed so far ... !? :) | 09:54 |
didrocks | duflu: oh, I didn't the count right :) | 09:54 |
didrocks | isn't the last one about the migration key with integrated one? | 09:54 |
duflu | didrocks: Yes, Sam said so but I don't know the details | 09:55 |
didrocks | so the specific case of apw "should" be fixed (hopefully) | 09:56 |
apw | didrocks, thanks ... | 09:56 |
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mmrazik | didrocks: I assume "unity.tests.test_hud.HudAlternativeKeybindingTests.test_super_h" is not interesting for indicators and it is only in the list because "bindings" have the "indi" substring... | 10:34 |
didrocks | mmrazik: no, it's more because it has the HUD in it (and the hud is part of the indicator stack), but I thought it would be easier to include them all than doing one after another | 10:35 |
mmrazik | didrocks: ok | 10:36 |
didrocks | mmrazik: this also enables to ensure that by default, the hud backend doesn't give back wrong result making the frontend crashing (we never know what can happen) | 10:36 |
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hyperair | so the other day i read about this newfangled unity version with fixed unredirect fullscreen windows | 12:25 |
hyperair | how do you know if it's working? | 12:25 |
hyperair | (also team fortress 2 doesn't redraw for ~2 minutes when trying to unredirect | 12:26 |
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davmor2 | Hey guys the Legal notice link in the home dash should it be missing from R? | 14:43 |
popey | ah, didrocks was that distropatched in? | 14:44 |
didrocks | it's not distro-patched, I see it here | 14:45 |
didrocks | oh indeed, no | 14:46 |
didrocks | hum, interesting | 14:46 |
seb128 | the path changed with the version? | 14:46 |
didrocks | no, the version wasn't bumped | 14:46 |
didrocks | let me check | 14:46 |
didrocks | I remember to bzr merge the branch | 14:46 |
didrocks | maybe nobody never acked it… | 14:46 |
didrocks | https://code.launchpad.net/~gordallott/unity/dash-legal-link/+merge/129235 | 14:47 |
* didrocks grrr | 14:47 | |
didrocks | thanks for the notice davmor2, we'll get it fixed :) | 14:47 |
davmor2 | didrocks: no probs | 14:48 |
sil2100 | Ah, right | 14:58 |
sil2100 | Since hm, it was supposed to be worked on for R I think? | 14:59 |
didrocks | yep | 14:59 |
didrocks | sil2100: do you have the time to get it merged? | 14:59 |
didrocks | I think retaking the branch, merging trunk back and repropose/approve | 14:59 |
sil2100 | didrocks: ok, I'll make it mergable for trunk | 14:59 |
didrocks | sil2100: thanks, please feel free to get it reviewed/approve yourself | 14:59 |
sil2100 | Yea, since Gord probably won't be working on it anymore ;/ | 15:00 |
didrocks | yep | 15:00 |
didrocks | thanks sil2100 ;) | 15:00 |
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didrocks | hey mterry, how was your week-end? | 15:39 |
mterry | didrocks, hi! good | 15:40 |
didrocks | sweet ;) Sorry to bother you on Monday but I have a tasklist to hang over to you :) | 15:40 |
didrocks | FYI I asked sil2100 to take care of https://code.launchpad.net/~gordallott/unity/dash-legal-link/+merge/129235 so that it's finally merged into trunk (we lost the legal notice with latest release) | 15:41 |
didrocks | * I didn't see the nux fix .pc file -> build-dep added to the -dev package, did I miss anything? | 15:41 |
didrocks | * We forgot in the stack libunity-misc: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/libunity-misc/trunk | 15:41 |
didrocks | so I guess this one needs bootstrap/inline, and so on… :) | 15:42 |
didrocks | * finally, I guess that the new hud package (already inlined by ted) would be great to have a double check that it's similar to our packaging standard + bootstrap :) | 15:42 |
didrocks | I think cyphermox is still fighting on the test for the 4 packages that are failing on tests for the indicator stack, not sure how busy you are, but maybe you can give a hand | 15:43 |
didrocks | I guess that's more than enough for a Monday :p | 15:43 |
mterry | didrocks, no you didn't miss the nux fix. I just didn't put it high on my todo, I can get to it today | 15:44 |
mterry | didrocks, ACK on libunity-misc | 15:44 |
didrocks | mterry: not very high compared to the rest TBH, good to know that my filters still work though! ;) | 15:44 |
didrocks | thanks mterry ;) | 15:46 |
mterry | didrocks, I came back from vacation for a few days last week and then had another day off. Having these short days on, short days off means it's hard to recover from email | 15:46 |
mterry | didrocks, did get VPN access though! Haven't set it up, but IS did | 15:46 |
didrocks | mterry: yeah, no worry at all (that's why I didn't spam you the first days ;)) and good luck on emails! :-) | 15:46 |
didrocks | excellent for the VPN access! | 15:46 |
didrocks | I'll probably discuss more with you on autolanding how it works later this week | 15:47 |
didrocks | one a quieter time for both you and I :) | 15:47 |
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fginther | bregma, any idea why autolanding failed? https://code.launchpad.net/~bregma/unity/fix-standalone-shorts-startup-crash/+merge/139010 | 19:06 |
bschaefer | fginther, yeah, Ill have a fix in a second | 19:06 |
fginther | bregma, looks like a possible compiz api change? | 19:06 |
fginther | bregma, thanks | 19:06 |
bschaefer | fginther, compiz pushed new changes, and unity didn't reflect it | 19:06 |
bregma | fginther, is Jenkins not supposed to try to build Unity of Compiz changes, or is that a later-stage Jenkins that does that? | 19:22 |
fginther | bregma, jenkins will rebuild unity if compiz changes | 19:23 |
fginther | it will always try to build a merge proposal if it is approved | 19:23 |
bregma | did it pick up the compiz-caused unity build failure or did I miss the message? | 19:23 |
fginther | bregma, let me look at the logs | 19:24 |
fginther | bregma, jenkins didn't catch this one on the unity rebuild. There is an optimization to not rebuild unity if another merge proposal is pending. | 19:31 |
fginther | which appears to have happened here | 19:31 |
fginther | bregma, also, the jenkins jobs are not smart enough to determine that a change to compiz caused unity to failed to build. | 19:33 |
bregma | sure, but a rebuild of unity that was kicked off by a changed dependency like compiz failed, the person looking at the logs would know | 19:35 |
bregma | then, if there was some way to delay pending builds until that was resolved, we'd have fewer manual remarking merges as approved, but I don't think it's worth the effort to make that work | 19:36 |
fginther | bregma, yes, that is correct. We're lacking builders and other resources to make this work, but hopefully we'll get there this cycle. | 19:38 |
bregma | mterry, could you clarify what versions need bumping to remedy all the current compiz/unity build problems? | 20:44 |
mterry | bregma, I'm not familiar with the specific build problems. Let me look at the staging PPA | 20:45 |
mterry | Nope, the staging is fine. You're talking about some jenkins failures? Related to the compiz abi bump? | 20:46 |
mterry | bregma, ^ | 20:46 |
bregma | yes, you made a comment in bschaefer's MP to fix it | 20:47 |
mterry | bregma, ok, so you're talking about the unity package. Let me check versions | 20:48 |
bregma | well, I'd like to see the compiz version bumped because of the non-backwards-compatible API change that cause all this breakage, but it's unclear how that happens with this continuous packaging stuff | 20:49 |
mterry | bregma, such packaging changes should have been a part of the branch that bumped API | 20:50 |
mterry | that changed API rather | 20:50 |
mterry | bregma, so since we didn't bump the compiz version, unity needs to add a build dep in debian/control on something hideous like 1:0.9.9~daily12.12.05bzr3521pkg0raring0 | 20:50 |
bregma | mm-hmm | 20:50 |
mterry | bregma, but ideally we'd actually fix compiz's version | 20:50 |
mterry | and then change unity's dep to be 1:1.0.0 or something clean | 20:51 |
bregma | yes | 20:51 |
bregma | so I approved bschaefer's MP so we can get build backlog cleared on the premise we could work out the version bumps | 20:52 |
bregma | I figure we need to talk to duflu about details | 20:52 |
mterry | bregma, so I don't know what the proper compiz version should be. 1.0.0 or 0.9.10. But either way, do a normal everyday version bump in the code and add a debian/changelog entry with the new version | 20:54 |
mterry | bregma, did the SONAME change? | 20:54 |
mterry | bregma, we broke ABI or API? | 20:54 |
bregma | mterry, I don;t think the SONAME changed, either | 20:54 |
bregma | it's an ABI break because symbols have disappeared | 20:54 |
bregma | someone is going to get spanked | 20:55 |
mterry | bregma, Oh... that should cause a SONAME bump then, eh? | 20:55 |
mterry | I thought we were just adding symbols | 20:55 |
mterry | Do the symbols need to disappear? i.e. was this an accident? | 20:56 |
bregma | hmm, it looks like the SONAME may have changed, I am confused by the way compiz reinvented SONAME versioning | 20:57 |
mterry | bregma, I'm surprised jenkins took it if the SONAME changed (I would expect a build failure due to packaging) | 20:57 |
bregma | there was a change that made some functions const -- that causes the symbols to change their mangled names, so in effect they've disappeared and now ones have appeared | 20:58 |
mterry | I see, right | 20:58 |
* mterry isn't super familiar with C++ | 20:58 | |
mterry | bregma, OK, so that was presumably an expected change and we have to do the whole soname bumping dance. Which involves changing the package name in debian/control and all that | 20:59 |
mterry | bregma, how much help do you need with that? i.e. do you want me to do a branch or do you just want a review from me? | 20:59 |
bregma | it definitely needs discussion with duflu | 21:00 |
mterry | OK. I'm not super familiar with IRC nicks yet. | 21:00 |
bregma | the packaging would never break woth compiz due to a SONAME change because the SONAME isn;t tracked by the .so file name or any of the other stuff the packaging knows about | 21:01 |
bregma | it's weird | 21:02 |
mterry | bregma, the SONAME isn't part of the .so file name??! | 21:02 |
mterry | Seems odd | 21:02 |
bregma | nope -- liek I say, they reinvented how this stuff works | 21:02 |
mterry | Alright | 21:03 |
bregma | if someone installed the binary deb as an upgrade they'd be in for a nasty surprise | 21:03 |
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