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didrockshey Mirv, sil2100 :)08:08
didrockshow was your week-end?08:08
didrocksmmrazik: hey, how are you?08:48
mmrazikdidrocks: morning08:48
mmrazikdidrocks: whats up?08:48
didrocksmmrazik: do you have a minute for a quick call with jibel? We have some autopilot-env requests08:48
mmraziksure08:48
didrocks(also, let's check if jibel is available :))08:48
Mirvdidrocks: hello, pretty fine, some family visiting etc08:53
Mirvdidrocks: how was yours?08:53
didrocksMirv: oh nice! :) Mine was excellent! It was the "fêtes des lumières" (light festival) in Lyon, so a lot of people (4 millions approx.) on the street and a lot of walking :)08:54
didrocksbut nice shows like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51G-Ewf4B2M&list=UUwsuhgq2VBY54f8Lez8wGEQ&index=3 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8hboL4N4yc&list=UUwsuhgq2VBY54f8Lez8wGEQ&index=108:54
didrockseven if the videos don't reflect how beautiful and impressive this is :)08:54
didrocksMirv: I wanted to ask you about the compiz fullsceen opengl fix, where are we with this?08:56
Mirvnice looking stuff, surely awesome seen live08:57
didrocksoh yeah, it really is :)08:57
didrocksmmrazik: starting a hangout and inviting you08:57
Mirvdidrocks: about 10 minutes of giving the quantal branch to you or so, so pretty good, all tested08:57
didrocksMirv: \o/08:57
didrocksMirv: for precise, it will be disabled by default for now, right?08:58
didrocksfor the xorg guys to look it, isn't it?08:58
Mirvwe just have a habit of getting final ack from another team member, so waiting sil2100 to ack it08:58
didrocks(in quantal, it's enabled by default)08:58
didrocksgreat :)08:58
Mirvdidrocks: yes, like that, sil2100 is probably finalizing the phase-1 of precise compiz this week08:58
didrocksMirv: for precise, maybe we can push that to a ppa rather?08:58
didrocksrather than going to the long SRU queue08:59
didrockswhat do you think?08:59
didrocksand then, the xorg team can play with it08:59
Mirvdidrocks: it looks it's already there since Friday (similar to quantal that was there for good time)08:59
didrocksoh good, can you ensure you/sil2100 speaks with the xorg guys then?08:59
Mirvsome arm build problem though, so needs tinkering08:59
didrockslet's only push final work08:59
Mirvdidrocks: yes, will do08:59
didrocksok :)08:59
didrocksthanks a lot!08:59
Mirvnp08:59
mmrazikdidrocks: is the invite out?09:01
* mmrazik still doesn't have anything09:01
didrocksmmrazik: it seems you are unknown on my tablet :p09:01
didrocksI just added you to my circles…09:02
didrocksah here you are :)09:03
didrocksmmrazik: won't it be more flexible that we give you dynamically a list of tests to run (with all tests for unity) and a list of packages to install from the ppa?09:25
didrocksmmrazik: so that we don't bother you when the list changes09:25
didrocksand you just generate from those list, it sounds easier for you?09:26
mmrazikdidrocks: it probably would but I'm not sure how exactly to do it. This is all controlled by UTAH so its in utah config. Thomi/Chris started to write some scripts that generate it but I just checked and they don't use it yet.09:27
mmrazikand still have e.g. different preseed for the trunk and the release job09:27
didrocksmmrazik: ok, so we'll probably need some more jobs, I'll detail everything by email :)09:28
mmrazikok09:28
mmrazikif its more then it definitely makes the generation more urgent09:28
didrocksyeah, because I thought of one thing09:28
didrocksI'll detail your everything :)09:29
mmrazikok09:29
didrocksin the email, it's easier09:29
apwdidrocks, i have just upgraded in quantal and my unity settings were reset again09:49
didrocksapw: hum, I think you are suffering from bug #1063617, with a fix that was merged into compiz trunk 6 hours ago09:51
ubot5Launchpad bug 1063617 in compiz (Ubuntu) "1:0.9.8+bzr3319-0ubuntu1 regression: keeps setting gsettings keys to wrong values" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106361709:51
didrockshttps://code.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz/compiz.fix_1063617.8/+merge/13880109:51
didrocksbut maybe you can check with duflu ^09:51
apwok ta09:51
didrocksapw: I can only see that, I hope it's the same issue09:52
freedomrungsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.window-state start-with-status-bar true is impossible in 13.04 ??!09:54
dufluapw, didrocks: By smspillaz' last estimate it would require 9 merge proposals to fix. Only 8 have landed so far ... !? :)09:54
didrocksduflu: oh, I didn't the count right :)09:54
didrocksisn't the last one about the migration key with integrated one?09:54
dufludidrocks: Yes, Sam said so but I don't know the details09:55
didrocksso the specific case of apw "should" be fixed (hopefully)09:56
apwdidrocks, thanks ...09:56
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mmrazikdidrocks: I assume "unity.tests.test_hud.HudAlternativeKeybindingTests.test_super_h" is not interesting for indicators and it is only in the list because "bindings" have the "indi" substring...10:34
didrocksmmrazik: no, it's more because it has the HUD in it (and the hud is part of the indicator stack), but I thought it would be easier to include them all than doing one after another10:35
mmrazikdidrocks: ok10:36
didrocksmmrazik: this also enables to ensure that by default, the hud backend doesn't give back wrong result making the frontend crashing (we never know what can happen)10:36
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hyperairso the other day i read about this newfangled unity version with fixed unredirect fullscreen windows12:25
hyperairhow do you know if it's working?12:25
hyperair(also team fortress 2 doesn't redraw for ~2 minutes when trying to unredirect12:26
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davmor2Hey guys the Legal notice link in the home dash should it be missing from R?14:43
popeyah, didrocks was that distropatched in?14:44
didrocksit's not distro-patched, I see it here14:45
didrocksoh indeed, no14:46
didrockshum, interesting14:46
seb128the path changed with the version?14:46
didrocksno, the version wasn't bumped14:46
didrockslet me check14:46
didrocksI remember to bzr merge the branch14:46
didrocksmaybe nobody never acked it…14:46
didrockshttps://code.launchpad.net/~gordallott/unity/dash-legal-link/+merge/12923514:47
* didrocks grrr14:47
didrocksthanks for the notice davmor2, we'll get it fixed :)14:47
davmor2didrocks: no probs14:48
sil2100Ah, right14:58
sil2100Since hm, it was supposed to be worked on for R I think?14:59
didrocksyep14:59
didrockssil2100: do you have the time to get it merged?14:59
didrocksI think retaking the branch, merging trunk back and repropose/approve14:59
sil2100didrocks: ok, I'll make it mergable for trunk14:59
didrockssil2100: thanks, please feel free to get it reviewed/approve yourself14:59
sil2100Yea, since Gord probably won't be working on it anymore ;/15:00
didrocksyep15:00
didrocksthanks sil2100 ;)15:00
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didrockshey mterry, how was your week-end?15:39
mterrydidrocks, hi!  good15:40
didrockssweet ;) Sorry to bother you on Monday but I have a tasklist to hang over to you :)15:40
didrocksFYI I asked sil2100 to take care of https://code.launchpad.net/~gordallott/unity/dash-legal-link/+merge/129235 so that it's finally merged into trunk (we lost the legal notice with latest release)15:41
didrocks* I didn't see the nux fix .pc file -> build-dep added to the -dev package, did I miss anything?15:41
didrocks* We forgot in the stack libunity-misc: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/libunity-misc/trunk15:41
didrocksso I guess this one needs bootstrap/inline, and so on… :)15:42
didrocks* finally, I guess that the new hud package (already inlined by ted) would be great to have a double check that it's similar to our packaging standard + bootstrap :)15:42
didrocksI think cyphermox is still fighting on the test for the 4 packages that are failing on tests for the indicator stack, not sure how busy you are, but maybe you can give a hand15:43
didrocksI guess that's more than enough for a Monday :p15:43
mterrydidrocks, no you didn't miss the nux fix.  I just didn't put it high on my todo, I can get to it today15:44
mterrydidrocks, ACK on libunity-misc15:44
didrocksmterry: not very high compared to the rest TBH, good to know that my filters still work though! ;)15:44
didrocksthanks mterry ;)15:46
mterrydidrocks, I came back from vacation for a few days last week and then had another day off.  Having these short days on, short days off means it's hard to recover from email15:46
mterrydidrocks, did get VPN access though!  Haven't set it up, but IS did15:46
didrocksmterry: yeah, no worry at all (that's why I didn't spam you the first days ;)) and good luck on emails! :-)15:46
didrocksexcellent for the VPN access!15:46
didrocksI'll probably discuss more with you on autolanding how it works later this week15:47
didrocksone a quieter time for both you and I :)15:47
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fgintherbregma, any idea why autolanding failed? https://code.launchpad.net/~bregma/unity/fix-standalone-shorts-startup-crash/+merge/13901019:06
bschaeferfginther, yeah, Ill have a fix in a second19:06
fgintherbregma, looks like a possible compiz api change?19:06
fgintherbregma, thanks19:06
bschaeferfginther, compiz pushed new changes, and unity didn't reflect it19:06
bregmafginther, is Jenkins not supposed to try to build Unity of Compiz changes, or is that a later-stage Jenkins that does that?19:22
fgintherbregma, jenkins will rebuild unity if compiz changes19:23
fgintherit will always try to build a merge proposal if it is approved19:23
bregmadid it pick up the compiz-caused unity build failure or did I miss the message?19:23
fgintherbregma, let me look at the logs19:24
fgintherbregma, jenkins didn't catch this one on the unity rebuild.  There is an optimization to not rebuild unity if another merge proposal is pending.19:31
fgintherwhich appears to have happened here19:31
fgintherbregma, also, the jenkins jobs are not smart enough to determine that a change to compiz caused unity to failed to build.19:33
bregmasure, but a rebuild of unity that was kicked off by a changed dependency like compiz failed, the person looking at the logs would know19:35
bregmathen, if there was some way to delay pending builds until that was resolved, we'd have fewer manual remarking merges as approved, but I don't think it's worth the effort to make that work19:36
fgintherbregma, yes, that is correct. We're lacking builders and other resources to make this work, but hopefully we'll get there this cycle.19:38
bregmamterry, could you clarify what versions need bumping to remedy all the current compiz/unity build problems?20:44
mterrybregma, I'm not familiar with the specific build problems.  Let me look at the staging PPA20:45
mterryNope, the staging is fine.  You're talking about some jenkins failures?  Related to the compiz abi bump?20:46
mterrybregma, ^20:46
bregmayes, you made a comment in bschaefer's MP to fix it20:47
mterrybregma, ok, so you're talking about the unity package.  Let me check versions20:48
bregmawell, I'd like to see the compiz version bumped because of the non-backwards-compatible API change that cause all this breakage, but it's unclear how that happens with this continuous packaging stuff20:49
mterrybregma, such packaging changes should have been a part of the branch that bumped API20:50
mterrythat changed API rather20:50
mterrybregma, so since we didn't bump the compiz version, unity needs to add a build dep in debian/control on something hideous like 1:0.9.9~daily12.12.05bzr3521pkg0raring020:50
bregmamm-hmm20:50
mterrybregma, but ideally we'd actually fix compiz's version20:50
mterryand then change unity's dep to be 1:1.0.0 or something clean20:51
bregmayes20:51
bregmaso I approved bschaefer's MP so we can get build backlog cleared on the premise we could work out the version bumps20:52
bregmaI figure we need to talk to duflu about details20:52
mterrybregma, so I don't know what the proper compiz version should be.  1.0.0 or 0.9.10.  But either way, do a normal everyday version bump in the code and add a debian/changelog entry with the new version20:54
mterrybregma, did the SONAME change?20:54
mterrybregma, we broke ABI or API?20:54
bregmamterry, I don;t think the SONAME changed, either20:54
bregmait's an ABI break because symbols have disappeared20:54
bregmasomeone is going to get spanked20:55
mterrybregma, Oh...   that should cause a SONAME bump then, eh?20:55
mterryI thought we were just adding symbols20:55
mterryDo the symbols need to disappear?  i.e. was this an accident?20:56
bregmahmm, it looks like the SONAME may have changed, I am confused by the way compiz reinvented SONAME versioning20:57
mterrybregma, I'm surprised jenkins took it if the SONAME changed (I would expect a build failure due to packaging)20:57
bregmathere was a change that made some functions const -- that causes the symbols to change their mangled names, so in effect they've disappeared and now ones have appeared20:58
mterryI see, right20:58
* mterry isn't super familiar with C++20:58
mterrybregma, OK, so that was presumably an expected change and we have to do the whole soname bumping dance.  Which involves changing the package name in debian/control and all that20:59
mterrybregma, how much help do you need with that?  i.e. do you want me to do a branch or do you just want a review from me?20:59
bregmait definitely needs discussion with duflu21:00
mterryOK.  I'm not super familiar with IRC nicks yet.21:00
bregmathe packaging would never break woth compiz due to a SONAME change because the SONAME isn;t tracked by the .so file name or any of the other stuff the packaging knows about21:01
bregmait's weird21:02
mterrybregma, the SONAME isn't part of the .so file name??!21:02
mterrySeems odd21:02
bregmanope -- liek I say, they reinvented how this stuff works21:02
mterryAlright21:03
bregmaif someone installed the binary deb as an upgrade they'd be in for a nasty surprise21:03
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