[00:57] <rick_h_> party
[02:38] <greg-g> wait, nate o. and rick_h_ are related?
[02:56] <jcastro_> snap-l_: see this before? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjbpwlqp5Qw&feature=player_embedded
[03:37] <rick_h_> greg-g: no
[03:40] <rick_h_> greg-g: nate's sister went to med school with my wife and are good friends.
[03:40] <rick_h_> had the honor of having to sit at dinner with him at his sisters house warming party after I interviewed with nate and wasn't accepted :P
[03:53] <snap-l_> jcastro_: The beginning is annoying.
[03:54] <snap-l_> jcastro_: It's very talented.
[03:54] <snap-l_> I can't handle it
[03:55] <jcastro_> zheh
[03:55] <jcastro_> I've listened to it like 10 times tonight
[03:55] <snap-l_> It's got that Glee feeling that makes me want to punch babies.
[03:57] <jcastro_> snap-l_: still, I get the feeling you're a toto fan
[03:58] <snap-l> one sec
[03:59] <snap-l> Toto Fan? Only that I wouldn't turn it off the radio should it appear
[03:59] <snap-l> but I have no Toto in my collection, nor any need to have any.
[04:05] <snap-l> Dudes are talented, no question, but outside of "Africa" I don't know any of their work.
[04:16] <jcastro_> snap-l: don't kill me
[04:16] <jcastro_> but I've always marginalized toto into the "yes" corner.
[04:16] <jcastro_> "too prog, next."
[04:17] <snap-l> jcastro_: I never got the prog vibe off Toto
[04:17] <snap-l> more the "really talented session musicians making pop music"
[04:17] <snap-l> If all you've heard from Yes is 90125, you have some eye-opening
[04:17] <snap-l> it's like saying Genesis started after Invisible Touch.
[04:18] <snap-l> I used to dismiss Yes, but now I really dig it
[04:19] <snap-l> And what's wrong with "Too Prog?" ;)
[04:20] <jcastro_> fair enough
[04:20] <jcastro_> nothing wrong with too prog
[04:20] <snap-l> jcastro_: I have some yes DVDs that you need to see.
[04:20] <jcastro_> for me personally anything left of Dream Theater or Rush is too much
[04:20] <snap-l> If you can get past Jon Anderson's hippie-shit, you'll love the band
[04:22] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtE2hSZwwc8 <- jcastro_
[04:22] <snap-l> That's like saying you hate bacon but you love pork.
[04:24] <snap-l> Now playing the part of Elrond is Steve Howe.
[04:33] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rpBUD0hjaI
[04:34] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNkWac-Nm0A
[04:38] <snap-l> jcastro_: Dude, prog music gives you stuff like this. How could you not like this kind of musical excess?
[04:38] <snap-l> http://localhost:9000/music/723334/download/Manuscriptum%20-%20EP%20-%2002%20Four.flac
[04:38] <snap-l> bah
[04:38] <snap-l> Let's try that again
[04:38] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSm5IQFaTZA
[04:39] <snap-l> DUde fucking floats his piano
[12:02] <rick_h_> morning
[12:38] <brousch> ug
[12:38] <brousch> power outage makes for an early morning
[12:46] <rick_h_> doh
[12:46] <rick_h_> again? didn't you guys have another recently? Last month or so?
[12:56] <rick_h_> http://bomahy.nl/wordpress/?p=171
[13:08] <brousch> We went about 2 years without an outage, and have had 4 in the last few months
[13:27] <rick_h_> bah, GR gets ATT LTE before us
[13:27] <brousch> muahahahah
[13:28] <brousch> Didn't we get verizon 4g first too?
[13:28] <rick_h_> probably, but we've had it for a long while so I don't recall
[14:15] <snap-l> Good morning
[14:15] <rick_h_> morn
[14:43] <brousch> I asked this last week, but now I wrote it out for a better example. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13803047/what-is-the-preferred-pattern-for-passing-a-django-model-or-queryset-to-template
[14:45] <snap-l> I got nothing
[14:46] <brousch> The same situation would come up with any framework
[14:47] <snap-l> I'm sure there's some Django way that's incompatible with any sane implementation. ;)
[14:47] <brousch> Transform the model to Javascript object in the template or send JSON and transform in Javascript?
[14:47] <brousch> snap-l: I'm hoping
[14:52] <rick_h_> brousch: why do you need to send both all and json?
[14:53] <brousch> Using the model to build a select element
[14:56] <brousch> I'm using some data from the model to build a select, and then when one of the options is selected I'm using another part of the model to fill in an input
[14:58] <snap-l> Why not use an Ajax call to fill it in as needed?
[14:59] <snap-l> Save yourself the trouble of passing a boat-load of data.
[14:59] <brousch> This specific case is 4 records, but in the future I will be accessing many more
[14:59] <brousch> So add your comment on there ;)
[15:00] <snap-l> Because I'm not sure it's the preferred Django pattern
[15:00] <brousch> I'm trying to nail down a pattern so I'm not guessing every time
[15:00] <snap-l> for all I know, it might be better in Django to send a search party and two sherpas
[15:01] <brousch> I think you're right
[15:01] <brousch> It seems silly with this tiny data set, but ajax will be better in most cases
[15:03] <brousch> Now I'm curious to see if anyone else mentions it
[15:06] <snap-l> Just added the comment
[15:07] <brousch> That will force me to put an ajax interface on all my stuff, which is probably a good habit
[15:07] <snap-l> Also a REST API.
[15:09] <brousch> right, that's what i meant
[15:09] <brousch> http://tastypieapi.org/
[15:33] <Blazeix> http://sellout.woot.com/offers/lenovo-thinkpad-14-1-core-i5-laptop
[15:33] <brousch> I bought basically the same laptop (T420) for $400 on ebay months ago
[15:40] <snap-l> Nice that it ships with a SSD
[15:42]  * snap-l wishes he had an extra $500 laying about
[15:43] <brousch> Damn, tasypie is nice
[16:09] <snap-l> Damn, I'm good.
[16:09] <rick_h_> woot!
[16:10] <snap-l> I was listening to Pigboat, and thought "Damn, this sounds a lot like Broken Clown"
[16:10] <snap-l> http://www.pigboat.us/bio.html
[16:10] <snap-l> Two members from Broken Clown.
[16:11] <snap-l> I know nobody else will understand, but I'm happy I made the connection
[16:17] <snap-l> "MiBCN.com has simply merged with bcbsm.com,"
[16:17] <snap-l> and we think we have alphabet soup.
[16:20] <brousch> That is really slick
[16:20] <brousch> Tasypie is my hero
[17:46] <rick_h_> http://www.theonion.com/video/google-shuts-down-gmail-for-two-hours-to-show-its,27610/ lmao
[19:09] <snap-l> Interesting, the "Code" book is getting a reprint
[19:11] <snap-l> Wow, that's quite the update:
[19:11] <snap-l> http://oreilly.com/catalog/errata.csp?isbn=9780735692602&imm_mid=09d636&cmp=em-orm-email-update-2012-12-10-2-2-1