[00:00] <Dr_willis> !java | Tiktalik
[00:02] <Tiktalik> thanks Dr_willis
[00:02] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. weird.. Ubuntu Made a .Trash-1000 direcory on a removeable NTFS USB drive.. and windows wont delete it. ;P
[00:02] <Dr_willis> but i can delete everything IN the directory. but not the directory itself
[00:02] <jakub>  hello. I installed ubuntu-based distro (kxstudio) via netboot, wifi (lenovo e530). When i booted up, wifi doesnt work, it says 'device not ready'. Although i installed the whole system via that adapter. What should I do? Thank you.
[00:03] <Tiktalik> Dr_willis: that's a weird thing linux makes, just roll with it
[00:03] <Dr_willis> jakub,  id suggest checking if it works with a standared ubuntu live cd.
[00:03] <Dr_willis> Tiktalik,  ive deleted them befor however. ;)
[00:04] <jakub> Dr_willis, well apparently it does. I installed the whole system via this wifi. (standard console based installator)
[00:05] <Dr_willis> jakub,  from a live cd i would check what module its loading. then try to sudo modprobe the same module on the isntalled system
[00:05] <jakub> Dr_willis, well i dont have a live cd. Is there any way to do this, for example lspci?
[00:06] <Dr_willis> jakub,  that will tell you the card. but i dont know what modules go with what cards.. google may know. or someone in here may know
[00:06] <Dr_willis> jakub,  run that addational-drivers tool also. it may suggest some drivers
[00:07] <jakub> Dr_willis, (without the live cd which i would have to download and burn). I am sure there are drivers for this. I installed the whole system via this card (!
[00:07] <jakub> )
[00:07] <Dr_willis> jakub,  its possible the drivers were on the live cd but not installed i guess.. Or the installed systemis having a harder time detecting the card
[00:08] <jakub> Dr_willis, Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 (rev c4)
[00:08] <jakub> lspci
[00:14] <cinka_> hi
[00:15] <CoreyBR> does anyone here uses empathy messenger?
[00:15] <cjaredrun> i do CoreyBR
[00:17] <CoreyBR> cjaredrun, when i use empathy to sign in my MSN account i'm logged out in other instances of my MSN, does empathy support multi log ins?
[00:17] <CoreyBR> sorry for my crappy english :(
[00:18] <cjaredrun> empathy does support multple log ins, but that sounds like an MSN issue to me
[00:18] <cjaredrun> never personally used MSN on empathy, only AIM and gTALK
[00:19] <BoozeWooz> :P
[00:19] <CoreyBR> cjaredrun, when i enter empathy my Windows Live Messenger in Win7 is logged out =\ but this dont happens in aMSN
[00:20] <CoreyBR> i think its an empathy issue, idk, i'm searching about this problem but i cant find anything
[00:20] <cjaredrun> idk CoreyBR :/ good luck
[00:22] <tagabag> hello
[00:23] <thomasd> how would i change the limits of applicatio's access to the internet. Like throttle/choke or giving a higher priority?
[00:27] <CoreyBR> ARGHT! Damn empathy!
[00:28] <BoozeWooz> :P
[00:28] <pangel> Is it normal that Ubuntu shows my graphics driver as VESA M86?
[00:29] <pangel> (I'm using Ubuntu 12.04)
[00:29] <fullhavoc1> Good evening, does anyone here have any experience installing ubuntu on a macbook pro 5,3?
[00:30] <britt__> not successfully
[00:30] <britt__> getting it to boot with the efi can be a hassle with anything above snow leopard
[00:30] <britt__> at least from my memory
[00:31] <phunyguy_t430s> !anyone | fullhavoc1
[00:32] <fullhavoc1> that's basically what I'm dealing with. the live CD will not boot, it'll either shutdown, blank screen, or get past grub and kernal panic.
[00:32] <phunyguy_t430s> !mac | fullhavoc1
[00:33] <Dr_willis> pangel,  whats your video card/chipset
[00:33] <pangel> Dr_willis: Ati radeon hd3650
[00:34] <Dr_willis> pangel,  have you intalled the fglrx drivers? its not one of those dual-gpu setups is it?
[00:34] <fullhavoc1> thanks phunyguy, but those guide deal primarily with how to get the different drivers and whatnot working, none of those guide have listed any similar issues to what I have been struggling with.
[00:35] <phunyguy_t430s> ok fullhavoc1, was just throwing it out there.
[00:35] <fullhavoc1> I appreciate it
[00:35] <phunyguy_t430s> I wish I could help, but it has been a while for me trying on a mac.
[00:36] <phunyguy_t430s> I have a mac air that I jump on once in a while, but not very often.
[00:36] <phunyguy_t430s> how far do you get in the boot process? Like are you booting off USB?
[00:37] <pangel> Dr_willis: No, it isn't! fglrxinfo output seems normal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422304/
[00:37] <oneiricwolf> can anyone see this?
[00:40] <fullhavoc1> I'm booting off of a usb stick (created via unetbootin) I've tried 12.10 64bit mac version, and 12.10 64bit, (I've also tried 12.04 64b, 12.04 mac edition, fedora's  beefy miracle, arch linux, and slackware) all via usb made by unetbootin (when I tried any of these on other machines I had no problems booting and getting into a live environment) they either crash when I selected them in rEFIt, or if I am able to get to grub, selecting 
[00:40] <CoreyBR> YEAH! I did it!
[00:40] <CoreyBR> empathy owned!
[00:41] <phunyguy_t430s> fullhavoc1, does it have a CD drive
[00:41] <fullhavoc1> it does not
[00:41] <phunyguy_t430s> because I think what I ended up doing was converting the ISO to mac image format, and burning that way
[00:42] <fullhavoc1> hmmm
[00:42] <phunyguy_t430s> been about a year
[00:42] <phunyguy_t430s> if you have a USB CD drive that may help
[00:42] <fullhavoc1> I really need to get one (none of my computers have a CD rom drive right now)
[00:42] <Dr_willis> You could try 'dd' to put the image directly on a usb, and not use unetbootin.
[00:43] <fullhavoc1> tried using dd with arch
[00:43] <Dr_willis> but If its crashing once you get to the Live Desktop. then that wouldent make much sence. since it is booting
[00:43] <fullhavoc1> no luck, same booting issues
[00:43] <phunyguy_t430s> Dr_willis, that may work after converting to .dmg as well
[00:43] <fullhavoc1> farthest I've gotten is one step past grub, when it kernal panics
[00:43] <Dr_willis> or do youmean the Live-cd/usb boots.. you install THEN the installed systemis crashing?
[00:43] <phunyguy_t430s> ir .img - cant remember which it was
[00:43] <fullhavoc1> haven
[00:43] <phunyguy_t430s> or*
[00:44] <fullhavoc1> haven't been able to get to a live environment yet
[00:44] <Dr_willis> This is an Intel Based Mac? :) or an older ppc mac?
[00:45] <fullhavoc1> intel based core 2 duo (macbook pro version 5,3 )
[00:46] <phunyguy_t430s> what version of Ubuntu? 12.10?
[00:46] <matbee_> guys?
[00:46] <fullhavoc1> I've tried 12.10, 12.04 and a few other distros
[00:46] <phunyguy_t430s> matbee_?
[00:49] <phunyguy_t430s> fullhavoc1, have you been following this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[00:51] <phunyguy_t430s> hmm... that just mentions LiveCD. Maybe the USB portion is the problem.  Like I said, I was using a CD.
[00:51] <fullhavoc1> yup, that's the one, though it's worth noting that I can partition everything with disk utility, but I cannot enable bootcamp (since I don't have a CD rom drive it stops me from moving past the creating the partitions, hence why I used disk utility)
[00:54] <phunyguy_t430s> Ahh! http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[00:54] <phunyguy_t430s> fullhavoc1, see that link.  That is what I did
[00:55] <fullhavoc1>  I will give that a whirl
[00:55] <fullhavoc1> thank you Phuny
[00:56] <OerHeks> fullhavoc1, might wanna try the ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/release/
[00:58] <fullhavoc1> I've tried the 12.04 alternate amd64 mac, I haven
[00:58] <fullhavoc1> I haven't tried the regular desktop version of the mac 12.04 yet
[00:58] <OerHeks> oke, this is the 12.04.1 version ( updated)
[00:58] <CoreyBR> i'm here to help, any problem with ubuntu just ask me!
[00:59] <OerHeks> i do not own a mac, but it is worth a try
[01:05] <phunyguy_t430s> CoreyBR, the majority of us are here to help.  :)
[01:07] <lvmer> Anyone got slick HDD price connections/coupons? Going to buy a bunch of 3TB HDDs this week. Best bet atm seems like amazon.com compared to newegg. Any help is welcome. :)
[01:08] <phunyguy_t430s> !ot | lvmer
[01:09] <lvmer> phunyguy_t430s: thanks. Yes I do use this for ubuntu frequently... more specifically #ubuntu-server. I was just asking a seemingly related question.
[01:09] <phunyguy_t430s> It's offtopic.
[01:09] <Dr_willis> may be better to ask in #hardware
[01:09] <lvmer> Hence why I said thanks
[01:09] <lvmer> dr_willis: 10-4 heading over
[01:09] <phunyguy_t430s> y/w
[01:10] <BoozeWooz> it is electric
[01:13] <robde> hello, I want to access bookmarks on apple icloud from ubuntu
[01:13] <mega1> is there a way to remote access a ubuntu server
[01:13] <mickster04> !remote
[01:13] <Dr_willis> mega1,  ssh would be the normal way to get into a server
[01:13] <phunyguy_t430s> !ssh | megal
[01:13] <mickster04> mega1: yeah, ssh, or some kind of desktop viewing too?
[01:13] <mega1> from outside my home network
[01:13] <Dr_willis> mega1, again....  ssh would be the normal way to get into a server
[01:14] <Dr_willis> running a server.. you will want to learn ssh. :)
[01:14] <phunyguy_t430s> !portforward | mega1
[01:14] <mega1> yes ssh can but my router wont do portforwarding
[01:15] <mickster04> mega1: that doesn't sound right? what router are you using?
[01:15] <Dr_willis> Then i think you should get a new/better router.
[01:15] <phunyguy_t430s> mega1?  It won't?
[01:15] <Tim42> I could use some help with an IPv6 configuration. I'm doing it completely manually and I can get an address assigned to the interface, but can't ping anything else on the local link. Ideas?
[01:15] <bse5150_> hello
[01:15] <mega1> the one my isp gave me
[01:15] <Dr_willis> or put the server on the DMZ setting
[01:15] <mickster04> well call them up and ask them about it
[01:15] <Dr_willis> My ISP suplies a Cable Modem. not a router.
[01:15] <OerHeks> robde there is no apple-cloud client AFAIK
[01:16] <mickster04> mega1: well the modem shouldn't need forwarding, just the router...
[01:16] <robde> this is what I already found out: the bookmarks seem to be stored on a webdav server http://p01-bookmarks.icloud.com. it is possible to login with an apple id. but the problem is that there seems to be a private webdav extension called "BookmarkDAV". what would be the best way to re-engineer that protocol?
[01:16] <blackshirt> !info dmz
[01:16] <Dr_willis> DMZ is a feature of a router. that puts the DMZ'ed pc basically directly/totally on the internet. with no protection
[01:17] <Dr_willis> Not a 'great' way to do it.
[01:17] <robde> * https://
[01:17] <OerHeks> robde xmark for firefox does not sync bookmarks https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/xmarks-sync/
[01:17] <phunyguy_t430s> hmmm being in the military, thats not at all what a DMZ was... lol.  I always saw it as a zone that was neither internal nor external - aka firewalled on both sides.
[01:17] <mega1> what i was thinking was something like teamviwer
[01:18] <const_antine> can user temporarily change their uid?
[01:18] <mehwork> how can i unbine <super> from unity?
[01:18] <mehwork> i simply cannot take it anymore :D
[01:18] <Karlo_> const_antine: That's what "su" does
[01:18] <phunyguy_t430s> const_antine, that may not be a good thing to do, since filesystem permissions are stored as UID.
[01:19] <const_antine> i tried to edit someone else's file on nfs mount with sudo but it opened the file as read only
[01:19] <const_antine> i checked exports file on server, it is configured as rw
[01:19] <const_antine> wtf is going on here :/
[01:19] <phunyguy_t430s> const_antine, change file ownership to your current UID
[01:19] <phunyguy_t430s> ahh you said nfs
[01:20] <phunyguy_t430s> not ntfs, I read ntfs
[01:20] <hyperzap> HI all
[01:20] <phunyguy_t430s> is the share mounted to your client rw?
[01:20] <phunyguy_t430s> hi hyperzap
[01:21] <const_antine> yes it is rw
[01:21] <const_antine> printer-pc.pautina:/home/aptyp/Videos on /home/const_antine/Videos type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.1.2)
[01:21] <hyperzap> Two quick questions:
[01:21] <W|cKeD> hi
[01:21] <hyperzap> Is /usr/bin the same for all users?
[01:22] <phunyguy_t430s> well with nfs, permissions still apply.  what is the permission line on the file? (drwxrwxrwx)
[01:22] <phunyguy_t430s> hyperzap, define "same for all users"
[01:23] <effigy-> hey, does anyone have experience getting airDroid to work on an android to transfer files from a computer?
[01:23] <phunyguy_t430s> !anyone | effigy-
[01:23] <const_antine> phunyguy_t430s, Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)
[01:24] <phunyguy_t430s> const_antine, then change ownership on the server to your UID, rather than changing the UID of your user.
[01:24] <const_antine> wait a sec i think the server file also has the same file permissions
[01:24] <W|cKeD> i got this confusing problem that i've encounter in my wireless before it was working fine and now it seems there's a problem...coz when i'm connected thru wired network when i want to connect also with my wireless connection my wired network will be dropped and then my wireless will be in before it's working fine even if i'm using wired connection i can connect also with wireless without dropping my wired connection what seems to be the pro
[01:25] <phunyguy_t430s> or just change permissions on it,, const_antine
[01:25] <effigy-> what? that's my only question. i'm trying to get airDroid to work and it won't connect, google is no help so far.
[01:25] <const_antine> aha!
[01:25] <const_antine> i always trip over file permissions
[01:25] <vite> what is the comand to "CUT" and PASTE directories?
[01:25] <hyperzap> phunyguy_t430s: All non root. I just want to know if I put a symlink to a program in /usr/bin as root, wether it will be there for all users
[01:25] <const_antine> ty
[01:25] <phunyguy_t430s> hyperzap, yes.
[01:25] <phunyguy_t430s> vite, via terminal?
[01:26] <hyperzap> phunyguy_t430s: thanks. Next question:
[01:26] <vite> yes
[01:26] <phunyguy_t430s> vite, see the commands cp and mv
[01:26] <phunyguy_t430s> copy and move respectively.
[01:26] <phunyguy_t430s> vite, 'man cp' and 'man mv'
[01:26] <hyperzap> What is the 'normal' way to set programs to run on startup (userlevel 2) for ubuntu?
[01:27] <phunyguy_t430s> hyperzap, do you mean via GUI shell login?
[01:27] <phunyguy_t430s> or via service?
[01:30] <hyperzap> phunyguy_t430s: I want ot write a python script that can set a daeomon to run at startup, in the background
[01:30] <phunyguy_t430s> hyperzap, right, but do you mean on system startup, or when the user logs in?
[01:31] <hyperzap> phunyguy_t430s: system startup
[01:31] <Hwkiller> hyperzap: why not use an initscript?
[01:31] <Hwkiller> that's exactly what they're for
[01:31] <hyperzap> Hwkiller: go on ...
[01:31] <phunyguy_t430s> Hwkiller, have at it, that's where I was going next.
[01:31] <Hwkiller> go googling...
[01:31] <Hwkiller> I'm not about to explain how to write an init script here
[01:34] <hyperzap> Hwkiller: phunyguy_t430s: do I just put the initscript in the /etc/init.d directory and make a symlink from /etc/rc2.d and It will work?
[01:35] <Hwkiller> i'm actually not 100% sure
[01:36] <Hwkiller> it's been a long time since I've made one. I've used systemd for so long now
[01:36] <phunyguy_t430s> maybe upstart would be more appropriate
[01:37] <OerHeks> !upstart
[01:37] <hyperzap> Hwkiller: phunyguy_t430s: Niether upstart nor systemd are available on my system
[01:37] <hyperzap> (assuming thats the name of commands)
[01:39] <phunyguy_t430s> Hwkiller, also, telling someone to google something may be a bit harsh.
[01:40] <Hwkiller> phunyguy_t430s: it's harsh to tell someone to go google something?
[01:40] <Hwkiller> seriously?
[01:40] <phunyguy_t430s> I asked in #ubuntu-ops to be sure.
[01:40] <phunyguy_t430s> I have done the same thing in the past and go slammed.  Just a friendly reminder.
[01:41] <phunyguy_t430s> got slammed*
[01:41] <Hwkiller> he wasn't using the init script method before. I gave him a new clue (init scripts). telling him to google that is harsh? I do not understand this channel.
[01:41] <Phaba> intuitive / trivial things shouldnt be harsh
[01:41] <phunyguy_t430s> Feel free to ask the ops yourself.
[01:42] <phunyguy_t430s> I was just telling you.
[01:42] <Phaba> things that perhaps require pre-requisite knowledge is i guess
[01:42] <Hwkiller> sigh
[01:43] <phunyguy_t430s> if you can assist with the googling, and guide with the pages you found, that would be helpful.  Telling them to Google for themselves is not helpful.
[01:43] <k1l> hyperzap: so you are not using a ubuntu machine? ubuntu is recently using upstart for starting services
[01:44] <phunyguy_t430s> hyperzap, upstart is the name of the background service that manages the rest of the startup scripts.
[01:44] <phunyguy_t430s> it isn't really a command, just a method of having programs start on boot.
[01:45] <MEer> hello
[01:45] <phunyguy_t430s> hello MEer
[01:45] <MEer> who is name?
[01:45] <MEer> hellp
[01:45] <MEer> hello
[01:46] <Kardos> i have 10.04 but i dont recall if it's server or desktop, how to check?
[01:46] <phunyguy_t430s> 10.04 is supported either way
[01:46] <phunyguy_t430s> although I am unsure if 10.04 uses upstart.
[01:46] <Kardos> the wiki is misleading then; it says only server extends beyond next april
[01:47] <phunyguy_t430s> well it's not next april yet :)
[01:47] <OerHeks> Kardos, if you have commandline only, it could be server
[01:47] <OerHeks> !10.04
[01:47] <paris> I have installed Google voice and video chat plugin, but still I cannot make any calls at all. I can play music and so on. What I should undertake to fix it?
[01:48] <hyperzap> Im running 10.10 but there is no upstart, only init
[01:48] <Kardos> hmmmm
[01:48] <k1l> Kardos: check if its a server kernel or a regular one?
[01:48] <W|cKeD> i got this confusing problem that i've encounter in my wireless before it was working fine and now it seems there's a problem...coz when i'm connected thru wired network when i want to connect also with my wireless connection my wired network will be dropped and then my wireless will be in before it's working fine even if i'm using wired connection i can connect also with wireless without dropping my wired connection what seems to be the pro
[01:48] <W|cKeD> .04 distro
[01:48] <jrib> hyperzap: can I ask what exactly you want to start at boot?
[01:48] <Hwkiller> hyperzap: then your job is easier :p... I found upstart to be difficult in the little bit I played with it
[01:48] <Kardos> so basically theres no difference?
[01:48] <hyperzap> jrib: I python program I made; my own web thingy
[01:49] <Kardos> or is it that a subset of the packages get maintained after april?
[01:49] <hyperzap> Hwkiller: so how do I do it then? :P is it just he whole rc.local thing?
[01:49] <phunyguy_t430s> Kardos, if you are running ubuntu server, it is supported past april, if it is desktop, support is dropped.
[01:49] <Hwkiller> rc.local is kinda a dirty way to manage services/autostart
[01:49] <jrib> Kardos: subset of packages
[01:49] <Kardos> right, phunyguy_t430s, so how do i determine which one i have?
[01:49] <phunyguy_t430s> Kardos, are you in front of the machine?
[01:50] <Hwkiller> if it's a service/daemon, I do recommend using upstart.
[01:50] <Kardos> jrib, okay, basically server packages then
[01:50] <Kardos> phunyguy_t430s, no shelled into
[01:50] <jrib> hyperzap: on 10.10, you do have upstart
[01:50] <k1l> Kardos: yes, support of desktop packages will be dropped. and like i said. check the kernel
[01:50] <phunyguy_t430s> check the kernel Kardos
[01:50] <roasted> Question - I want to rsync from server A to server B as root. Even if I run the command as root, or sudo, I'm still bound to the username authentication via SSH. Example: rsync -az /media/source/ bob@192.168.1.10:/media/destination/. How do I get around the fact it's running as "bob" and get it running as root?
[01:50] <Kardos> 2.6.32-43-generic
[01:50] <k1l> Kardos: desktop
[01:50] <Flannel> phunyguy_t430s: No.  April 2013 for desktop, 2015 for server.
[01:50] <jrib> Kardos: sure.  Check out the "ubuntu-support-status" command.
[01:51] <Kardos> hah threw and excpeiot
[01:51] <Kardos> *exception
[01:51] <Kardos> well okay, so i have until april to get 12.04 on there
[01:51] <Kardos> then i'm good, the machile should be EOL by 2017
[01:52] <phunyguy_t430s> oooh good call jrib, didnt know about that command
[01:53] <jrib> roasted: run it as root?
[01:54] <phunyguy_t430s> bbiab. life calls
[01:54] <hyperzap> jrib: I dont. Does it help to know its a server?
[01:55] <jrib> hyperzap: unless you've done something very strange, you do.  What makes you say you don't have upstart?
[01:55] <shPikachu> hi ppl
[01:55] <roasted> jrib: I am.
[01:55] <Morudo> hi!
[01:55] <jrib> roasted: you said you ran it as bob
[01:55] <somethingPr0fane> howdy
[01:56] <roasted> jrib: well, bob was the authenticating party. What else would it be? sudo@192.168.1.150?
[01:56] <shPikachu> how can i set resolution of bootsplash in ubuntu?
[01:56] <shPikachu> for some reason its different from my desktops resolution
[01:56] <jrib> roasted: root... or give bob the permissions you need
[01:56] <MartinS> I am here now
[01:57] <roasted> jrib: I don't understand just "run it as root." As far as I know, I am running it as root. I'm at a root prompt (sudo su) and I run rsync -az /media/source/ bob@192.168.1.10:/media/destination/ How else do I run it as root?
[01:57] <jrib> roasted: so what's your question?
[01:58] <roasted> jrib: I just asked my question.
[01:58] <jrib> roasted: repeat it for me please
[01:58] <roasted> jrib: I don't understand just "run it as root." As far as I know, I am running it as root. I'm at a root prompt (sudo su) and I run rsync -az /media/source/ bob@192.168.1.10:/media/destination/ How else do I run it as root?
[01:58] <jrib> roasted: you have a server and a client.  You are executing the command as root on the client.  Not on the server.
[01:59] <roasted> jrib: I'm trying to back up one server to another. No user has access to everybody's things in their home directories. Some hidden files for certain programs are permission'd as 600, so of course no group assignments will matter.
[01:59] <jrib> roasted: one way is to replace "bob" with "root"
[01:59] <roasted> jrib: I did.
[01:59] <jrib> roasted: not according to the command you just pasted
[01:59] <roasted> jrib: it just asks for a password, continuously. But I have no idea what the "root" password is since there is no "root" on Ubuntu. I tried my user (jason) in this case who has sudo rights, but it didn't work.
[01:59] <roasted> jrib: that command was the initial example I'm working with. root@192.168.1.10 doesn't work.
[01:59] <psusi> shPikachu, you can try editing /etc/default/grub to specify the gfxmode... it's normally chosen by the bios which is supposed to auto detect the correct resolution
[02:00] <jrib> roasted: that's right.  You won't be able to authenticate as root by default.
[02:00] <Hwkiller> i'm curious, why are you copying as root anyway?
[02:00] <roasted> jrib: I need a passwordless way to run an rsync command over SSH from one system to another. That's the bottom line.
[02:00] <jrib> roasted: setup an ssh key for root
[02:00] <roasted> jrib: how? root doesn't exist.
[02:00] <jrib> roasted: of course root exists.  How do you setup an ssh key for your user?
[02:00] <shPikachu> psusi : also, i accidentally disabled stretching
[02:01] <Hwkiller> the root user exists. root login does not.
[02:01] <roasted> jrib: easy. my user exists. ssh-keygen, ssh-copy-id jason@192.168.1.10, ssh jason@192.168.1.10 and BAM no password I'm SSH'd in.
[02:01] <psusi> roasted, what is it that you are trying to do?
[02:01] <shPikachu> psusi : how can i enable stetching again?
[02:01] <roasted> psusi: rsync as root over ssh from one system to another with no password in between.
[02:01] <psusi> roasted, root always exists... it just has no password by default
[02:01] <jrib> roasted: that command adds a key to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys .  You can add a key to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
[02:02] <hyperzap> Can someone who is running on Ubuntu 10.10 (or something with upstart) quickly check if the file /etc/rc.local exists?
[02:02] <roasted> jrib: but if that's the case, I just can't use ssh-copy-id in the process to copy the key, right?
[02:02] <jrib> roasted: when I do this I tend, to make sure that the only thing root can do is execute the specific backup command (with my ssh configuration)
[02:02] <psusi> roasted, copy your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys to /root/.ssh/
[02:02] <jrib> roasted: right, you can't just use ssh-copy-id because you can't entere a password :)
[02:02] <roasted> jrib: and nowwwwwwww it makes sense
[02:03] <shPikachu> psusi : there is no grub file
[02:03] <jrib> hyperzap: it does.  The suggested way though for you to manage init scripts is to use upstart
[02:03] <psusi> shPikachu, look again?
[02:03] <dload> What is the 8.x -> 9.x postgres upgrade process?
[02:04] <coba_tigabelas> hai
[02:04] <coba_tigabelas> gils
[02:04] <jrib> dload: 9.04 and 9.10 are both End of Life and no longer supported
[02:04] <dload> jrib: postgres
[02:04] <roasted> psusi: I'm trying to place what you just said. Am I to do that on the secondary (destination) box, or the same?
[02:04] <shPikachu> psusi : yup. im not even sure if it uses grub. this is an embedded board, a PandaBoard
[02:04] <jrib> dload: what ubuntu version are you using?
[02:05] <shPikachu> psusi : it uses u-boot i think
[02:05] <dload> jrib: 12.10 but I never did the manual update steps for postgres that were described a few versions ago
[02:05] <psusi> roasted, on the destination box... the user's .ssh/authorized_keys file lists the ssh keys that are allowed to ssh in as them without a password
[02:05] <psusi> shPikachu, ohh... I dunno then
[02:05] <dload> jrib: (In order to be able to remove 8.x)
[02:06] <jrib> dload: ah.  I don't know.  Someone else may be able to help.  Check /var/lib/dpkg/info/postgresql* to see if there's relevant info (especially a README.Debian)
[02:06] <roasted> psusi: I apologize, I'm still trying to place everything. On the source box, I am to run ssh-keygen, which puts an ssh folder in /root since root doesn't have a home dir. Then take that, and move it to where exactly on the destination box? same place? /root/.ssh?
[02:06] <jrib> roasted: /root is root's home directory
[02:06] <roasted> ah
[02:06] <coba_tigabelas> ...
[02:07] <roasted> so if I take the .ssh folder, as is, to destination (so it mirrors what's on source) it should work?
[02:07] <psusi> roasted, assuming you already generated an ssh key and uploaded it to the server, you just need to copy your .ssh/authorized_keys file to /root/.ssh/
[02:07] <roasted> It's amazing how much more confusing this is once you take ssh-copy-id out of the mix.
[02:07] <psusi> yes, /root is root's home directory, so if you have set up your key to ssh in iwthout a password, you can just copy that file to root's home dir
[02:07] <dload> roasted: you need to keep your private key secret
[02:08] <psusi> what's confusing about it?  when you connect to the server you tell it who you are and use your key to authenticate.. server checks ~/.ssh/authorized_keys for the keys allowed to authenticate
[02:08] <roasted> psusi: I'm balancing two servers. One gets one key, the other gets another. Sounds simple until I try to actually figure out what goes where.
[02:10] <jrib> hyperzap: by the way, 10.10 is EOL and no longer supported; you should upgrade if that is what you are running
[02:10] <dload> public key of client goes into authorized_keys of server
[02:10] <roasted> and if authorized_keys doesn't exist? Am I to just create it?
[02:10] <alusion> What else is there other than disk2VHD? I am using disk2VHD with an image from my debian and windows partitions and none of them want to boot
[02:10] <alusion> it's giving me strange VHD's.
[02:10] <orlok> yes, just create it
[02:11] <orlok> roasted: root exists on ubuntu, and you can change your uid to root, you just cannot log in directly as root as default
[02:11] <orlok> Also, note the american spelling of authorised
[02:12] <roasted> orlok: I've never seen it spelled with an S....
[02:12] <orlok> roasted: Are you american?
[02:12] <roasted> orlok: yes
[02:12] <orlok> roasted: Exactly.. thats the american spelling. Everybody else uses 's'
[02:12] <roasted> orlok: Oh. I thought you were implying that the 's' method was American.
[02:12] <roasted> ;)
[02:13] <orlok> :)
[02:13] <roasted> so, let me just recap. What I am copying to the server's authorized_keys file is.............. id_rsa.pub?
[02:13] <psusi> roasted, you generate a key pair... one you keep private, and the other is public... server needs to know your public key, then you can use your private key to send it a signed message to the effect of "please log me on" and it knows it comes from you ( or someone who has your private key )
[02:14] <orlok> roasted: yes
[02:14] <roasted> orlok: what about known_hosts? Is that different from authorized_keys?
[02:14] <orlok> yup
[02:14] <orlok> thats a list of the hosts you have connect to as a client
[02:14] <roasted> ah, that's when you get the yes/no thing.
[02:15] <orlok> yes, so you can detect somebody pretending to be the host you want to connect to
[02:15] <psusi> yea, known_hosts keeps track of the server's key for servers you have used before just in case someone tries to pull a fast one and impersonate the server
[02:15] <roasted> orlok: now in the case of the destination server, I don't even have a .ssh folder in /root. I assume I have to create that as well?
[02:15] <orlok> yup
[02:15] <thejollygrimreap> How reliable is copying the .thunderbird directory in a fresh install or Ubuntu
[02:16] <psusi> thejollygrimreap, never had a problem
[02:16] <Cottus> thejollygrimreap: you have to make sure the directory has the same uid, for example in a new install the first user created gets uid=1000
[02:17] <keber> if you want to be billionaire, you must go over to 3 seas, and after that first sea.
[02:17] <thejollygrimreap> Ok , what about things like server names and passwords?
[02:17] <psusi> thejollygrimreap, it's all in there
[02:18] <thejollygrimreap> Ok, thanks,
[02:20] <keber> if you want to be pope you must go over 4 seas and after that firstone. and over new 3 seas and after that firstone.
[02:20] <Karlo_> There's a remote system that I regularly connect to from my primary machine, via ssh.  My primary machine crashed this morning and won't boot.  I have a second machine on the same LAN, but haven't set up ssh credentials.  I think I need to copy info from primary:~/.ssh/ to secondary:~/.ssh/ to get this working -- is that correct/appropriate?
[02:20] <bazhang> keber, wrong channel
[02:20] <jeeves_moss> my dovecot server tanked, and I need to get the e-mails from the e-mail files so I can import them into the accounts I recreated in Exchange.  How do I do that?
[02:21] <psusi> Karlo_, yes
[02:21] <IdleOne> Karlo_: correct, ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[02:21] <orlok> jeeves_moss: "tanked".. what storage was dovecot using? maildir?
[02:21] <psusi> jeeves_moss, depends on how you configured dovecot to store your mail
[02:21] <IdleOne> Karlo_: no, the remote server already has that so you need the private key on your local machine
[02:21] <Karlo_> Note that primary / secondary are *my* machines, not the remote.
[02:22] <Karlo_> So, copy the private and public key files from primary to secondary?
[02:22] <jeeves_moss> orlok, by "tanked", I mean it upgraded to Dovecot2 and totalled all of my vhost configs.  I didn't want to put the energy to rebuild it, and it was the "final nail" for Linux in this enviroment
[02:22] <IdleOne> Karlo_: yes, both to be safe, but you need the private key so you can auth to the remote machine
[02:23] <jeeves_moss> orlok, and I copied all of the e-mail files from the maildir into a TAR archive
[02:23] <roasted> orlok: jrib: psusi: works beautifully. Thanks for your patience fellas.
[02:23] <leo2007> folks, I am running 12.04 LTS. I got a question about how ubuntu keep things secure. for example, it has one pkg called 'supervisor' with a version released two years ago. there have been updates upstream. Does ubuntu merge fixes from upstream?
[02:23] <hilo> When using remote gui via "ssh -X user@host <application>" is it possible to hear the audio on the remote end?
[02:23] <roasted> although, one last question to make sure my perms are set right. Is authorized_keys supposed to be 600?
[02:23] <jrib> !sru | leo2007
[02:24] <jrib> roasted: 600 is fine
[02:24] <orlok> jeeves_moss: Oh, so you have all of the email messages in their individual Maildir format files? You now have an exchange problem then :)
[02:24] <k1l> leo2007: short: yes, there are security-patches
[02:24] <leo2007> k1l: thanks. that doc is too long for me to read now.
[02:25] <orlok> jeeves_moss: what _i_ would do, (aside from not use exchange), is get dovecot running, and copy the files to your exchange server via imap
[02:25] <jeeves_moss> orlok, lol, yep.  I traded a Dovecot problem for a Exchange disastor.  So, now I need to get the e-mail out of the files from Dovecot, and import them into my exchange farm <shudders to say those words>
[02:26] <leo2007> but pkg supervisor is still at version 3.0a8 (released at 2010-01-20)
[02:26] <orlok> jeeves_moss: Ok, you have all of your Maildir's in a tarball - the problem is now unrelated to dovecot or any other mail server
[02:26] <leo2007> released on*
[02:26] <Karlo_> Back to my original question.  New 12.04.1 system, and I find that Ctrl-D is intercepted at the window manager level to mean iconify/deiconify; this is annoying for both Emacs and terminal windows.  How do I unbind this?
[02:26] <cryptodira> can anyone point me to the solution for making the backlight for the KEYBOARD remain working beyond POST ????  toshiba satellite /amd chips/ ubuntu 12.04
[02:26] <orlok> jeeves_moss: You now have an exchange problem. Maildir is a standard storage method for many mail servers. Its easy to access and manipulate the data with the tools of your choice
[02:27] <orlok> jeeves_moss: You want to import data into exchange, this is the wrong channel to ask in :)
[02:27] <jeeves_moss> orlok, ok, so what program would you recomend to utilize on a worksataion to be able to import the files, then IMAP them into the exchange server?
[02:28] <IdleOne> Karlo_: #emacs can help with that question
[02:28] <k1l> leo2007: you have to read the full link if you want the full information. compare the changelog and package version at packages.ubuntu.com
[02:28] <orlok> jeeves_moss: I wouldent, i would just use an email client to copy them across. I would not deal with two seperate problems at the same time
[02:28] <Karlo_> IdleOne: It's not an Emacs problem; it's at a higher level.
[02:28] <leo2007> I see. OK, I'll just trust ubuntu for now.
[02:29] <orlok> jeeves_moss: You want to import maildir files into exchange. Have you asked google?
[02:29] <IdleOne> Karlo_: hmm, good point.
[02:29] <jrib> Karlo_: presumably, this happens for all windows, not just in a terminal?
[02:29] <jeeves_moss> orlok, lol, yes, and I am now more confused than I was when I started
[02:30] <Karlo_> jrib: Yes
[02:30] <psusi> jeeves_moss, assuming your mail is in a Mailbox file, you can use thunderbird to read it and copy it via IMAP to the exchange server... not sure if exchange has a direct Mailbox import tool or not
[02:30] <orlok> jeeves_moss: Also - Heres a hint.. No matter what your operating system, or software, application, etc - If you fail to back up your configs before performing a change you dont understand.. If it fails, its not the softwares fault!
[02:30] <jeeves_moss> psusi, it isn't though.  It's the raw maildir folder
[02:30] <jrib> Karlo_: with unity?
[02:31] <jeeves_moss> orlok, lol, yes, I know.  I've been kicking myself for a while now.
[02:31] <psusi> jeeves_moss, hrm... there is a tool to convert from Maildir to mbox... don't recall the name now thoguh
[02:31] <orlok> jeeves_moss: How many users?
[02:32] <jeeves_moss> orlok, 1 major one.  the others have found out that their stuff is lost and have finally accepted it
[02:32] <IdleOne> Karlo_: You need compiz config settings manager, and go to the Ubuntu Unity plugin section, and tell it to disable the C-d binding.
[02:32] <IdleOne> Karlo_: that is if you are using Unity of course
[02:32] <jeeves_moss> orlok, there is ~3gb of data there.
[02:33] <orlok> Getting dovecot working should only take a few minutes
[02:33] <Karlo_> jrib & IdleOne: I believe it's unity, yes.  (How can I check?)
[02:33] <IdleOne> Karlo_: you got a launcher on the left with the ubuntu logo at the top?
[02:33] <jeeves_moss> orlok, I don't feel like kicking it
[02:34] <Karlo_> IdleOne: Top left, (Logo) Applications Places
[02:35] <IdleOne> Karlo_: I believe that is gnome-shell, can you take a screenshot and pastebin ?
[02:35] <jeeves_moss> orlok, I think I may have found something.  one sec
[02:37] <IdleOne> Karlo_: either way, the settings would be in compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:37] <Dr_willis> Gnome-shell dosent use CCSM/Compiz i thought
[02:37] <IdleOne> Dr_willis: it doesn't?
[02:38] <amigamia> gnome not use compiz?
[02:38] <amigamia> oh dr_willis
[02:38] <Dr_willis> I thought Unity was a Compiz Plugin, but Gnome-shell uses somthing else.
[02:38] <amigamia> your worng
[02:38] <amigamia> wrong even
[02:38] <k1l> they use mutter for gnom-shell
[02:38] <amigamia> yes ofcourse
[02:38] <Dr_willis> Mutter - thats it.. ;) i never can rember its name
[02:39] <IdleOne> k1l: even when you install gnome-shell in ubuntu?
[02:39] <amigamia>  Just sing Hello Fadder...Hello Mutter...This is Baby Dr Butter :D
[02:39] <Dr_willis> amigamia,  ;) i was just thinking that also...
[02:39] <k1l> IdleOne: i think. im not sure on this
[02:39] <amigamia> haha
[02:39] <Dr_willis> ps ax | grep mutter    and see..
[02:41] <Karlo_> IdleOne: screen snapshot at http://imagebin.org/238720
[02:42] <IdleOne> I'm not sure which DE that is, might be gnome-panel
[02:43] <Karlo_> (Huh, the snapshot included the mouse cursor -- I didn't expect that)
[02:44] <kevinch> hi, I'm looking for something to stream and encode on the fly mkv video to my iOS devices.  any suggestions?  I'm running 12.04 server
[02:45] <Karlo_> Anyway, I haven't done much in the way of customizing yet, so I would assume that the top and bottom panels are whatever is default...  Unless the person who set up the machine for me in the first place had to make some decisions.
[02:45] <red5> kevinch: have you tried VLC?
[02:45] <kevinch> vlc ios app?
[02:45] <kevinch> hmm intersting
[02:46] <kvothetech> kevinch: just run an apache server and find an app that'll let you http stream
[02:46] <red5> Not sure...was looking at doing the same thing to an Android pad.  Seemed like VLC pretty much did everything like that
[02:46] <kvothetech> there's a few in android
[02:46] <kevinch> what does vlc stream from?
[02:46] <kevinch> like what would i run on my server?
[02:47] <kevinch> can it just play videos in an nfs share?
[02:47] <W|cKeD> i got this confusing problem that i've encounter in my wireless before it was working fine and now it seems there's a problem...coz when i'm connected thru wired network when i want to connect also with my wireless connection my wired network will be dropped and then my wireless will be in before it's working fine even if i'm using wired connection i can connect also with wireless without dropping my wired connection what seems to be the pro
[02:47] <W|cKeD> .04 distro
[02:47] <red5> Actually...if your wanting to stream on a local network...have you considered DLNA?
[02:48] <hyperzap> Is cron a part of Ubuntu by default? What about debian?
[02:48] <kevinch> nope not really
[02:48] <Dr_willis> theres numerous upnp servers for linux that can stream to mobile devices. :) or other devices
[02:48] <kevinch> red5
[02:48] <unknown__> ?
[02:48] <kevinch> okay
[02:48] <unknown__> hello :D
[02:48] <kevinch> DLNA=unpnp?
[02:48] <Karlo_> IdleOne: How do I get to compizconfig-settings-manager ?  There doesn't seem to be a command of that name in the usual bin or sbin dirs, and it's not obvious which icon I would need to click on.
[02:48] <kevinch> *upnp
[02:48] <red5> You can pretty much find DLNA server software for everything, and I can't imagine there aren't a few iOS clients
[02:48] <red5> yeah, DLNA, PnP
[02:48] <IdleOne> Karlo_: you need to install it, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:49] <k1l> hyperzap: yes for ubuntu
[02:49] <kevinch> ok
[02:49] <red5> Repositories have an app minidlna for linux
[02:49] <IdleOne> Karlo_: it will add a new item in your menus somewhere. I'm not using gnome here so i can't check
[02:50] <kevinch> will a upnp server encode on the fly to a format iOS likes?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> kevinch,  should be able to.
[02:50] <Dr_willis> Most can encode to numerous formats
[02:50] <kevinch> okay excellent, now to find a upnp streamer
[02:50] <Dr_willis> Theres several in the repos.. depending on your needs. some others not in the repos.
[02:51] <Dr_willis> !info ushare
[02:51] <Dr_willis> !info minidlna
[02:51] <red5> There you go
[02:51] <Dr_willis> those are both rather basic.. and work well.  meditomb is much fancier.. then theres the PLEX server. but thats not in the repos
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Theres most likely many others. ;0
[02:51] <kevinch> yeah I've heard media tomb before
[02:51] <kevinch> I think I'll give that a shot
[02:52] <red5> Most off the shelf NAS drives have DLNA built in now
[02:52] <Dr_willis> if you just have a dozen of so videos in a directory. ushare or minidlna are easy
[02:52] <kevinch> I've got 300 or so
[02:52] <kevinch> two directories,
[02:52] <dload> Dr_willis: What is PLEX? I keep hearing about it
[02:53] <Dr_willis> if you want them all fancy sorted., then plex may do it. but id start small and workup
[02:53] <Karlo_> If I echo a Ctrl-G from a terminal, I get a "thunk" sound; If I ring the bell from Emacs, I get no sound at all.  What are these two clients doing differently, and to what extent can either/both be reconfigured?
[02:53] <Dr_willis> Plex is like XBMC taken a new direction I gues you can say. theres the Plex Server, then a Plex media player. (not sure if the player is on linux or is windows only)
[02:54] <Dr_willis> The Speaker Beep i belive is disabled by default. every so often someone asks about the old skool 'pscpkr' beepng. ;)
[02:54] <Dr_willis> the terminal app is most likely triggering the system bell. not doing the old skool speaker beep.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> My PC dont beep at all. :) its speakerless.. even grub cant make it beep.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> !info beep
[02:55] <dload> Dr_willis: Is it better than XBMC? How is it different?
[02:55] <Dr_willis> dload,  its basically XBMC taken a differnt direction. it has a stand alone server part and a media player part.
[02:55] <Dr_willis> dload,  it also has streaming over  the internet to your mobile device  :)
[02:55] <dload> Dr_willis: It's based on XBMC source code?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> dload,  yes i belive so
[02:56] <Dr_willis> boxee is also based on xbmc. but im not sure if boxee for the pc/lnux/windows is still being devloped
[02:57] <red5> Plex looks pretty slick
[02:57] <Dr_willis> openelec is yet another take on xbmc. it has its own live-mini-disrto. :)
[02:58] <jeeves_moss> I'm back everyone!
[02:58] <red5> You may still want to normalize your collection with something like Arista
[02:59] <red5> meaning...I've yet to find any server\client streaming combo that will deal with all video\audio formats without issue
[03:00] <Dr_willis> My Boxee comes darn close.
[03:00] <W|cKeD> anyone? been askin this again and again pls help huhuhu
[03:00] <W|cKeD> i got this confusing problem that i've encounter in my wireless before it was working fine and now it seems there's a problem...coz when i'm connected thru wired network when i want to connect also with my wireless connection my wired network will be dropped and then my wireless will be in before it's working fine even if i'm using wired connection i can connect also with wireless without dropping my wired connection what seems to be the pro
[03:00] <W|cKeD> .04 distro
[03:00] <Karlo_> Dr_willis: So if I want Emacs to have access to whatever beep it's trying to use, is there some package I should install?
[03:00] <FloodBot1> W|cKeD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <Dr_willis> I mean my BoxeeBox plays most eveyrthing ive ver fouind for it
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Kardos,  no idea. every so often someone asks how to enable the PC Speaker beep. Id say check askubuntu.com  i think the module is blacklisted. and at one time a X bug prevented it working anyway.
[03:01] <Dr_willis> Kardos,  does it beep at the console?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> or  there may be a emacs way to use the system bell instead of the speaker beep
[03:02] <red5> Doesn't suprise me the Boxee would be that good.  Pretty much a full blown PC, right?
[03:02] <red5> Mostly embedded set top boxes I don't see work as well as I would like.
[03:03] <Karlo_> Dr_willis: If I bring up a terminal application and run a program that emits a Ctrl-G (e.g., echo -e '\a'), I get a "thunk" sound.  If you can tell me how to get to the main console without dismissing X, I can try there too...
[03:03]  * Kardos >:E
[03:04] <Karlo_> Kardos: You weren't being summoned -- Dr_willis did premature tab completion.  :-)
[03:04] <Dr_willis> Kardos,  what terminal program.
[03:04] <Dr_willis> ;)
[03:04] <IdleOne> Dr_willis: you're helping Karlo_ with a L
[03:05] <Dr_willis> I got my nick list very narrow for my phone.
[03:05] <Karlo_> Dr_willis: gnome-terminal
[03:05] <IdleOne> stop pinging the other karTAB :)
[03:05] <Dr_willis> try xterm and see if it does it
[03:05] <LogicandReason> Hi,
[03:05] <LogicandReason> And suddenly commas
[03:05] <phunyguy_t430s> W|cKeD, maybe your question is too confusing
[03:05] <Karlo_> Dr_willis: Same "thunk" sound in xterm
[03:07] <bananaboydean> Tried to make wmfs my ddefault windows manager and now i am unable to login through any of the windows managers they make the log in noise and go straight back to the login page any ideas?
[03:07] <LogicandReason> I'm trying to install OpenOffice, but I can't get it working because it's in .gz. What do I need to do?
[03:07] <ShareTextingCEO> http://www.ShareTexting.com Launching March 3rd 2013! OVER 700,000+ Users already signed up! Go sign up now. FREE for life!
[03:07] <Dr_willis> thats the system bell. instead of the pc spkr. I belive the general trend has been to remap the spkr beep to more universial system sound.
[03:08] <OerHeks> ShareTextingCEO, i won't join, because you spam.
[03:08] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. if a service is not launcheing untill 2013. how can it have any users.....
[03:08] <W|cKeD> phunyguy_t430s, i can't connect my wireless along with my wired connection together if i want to connect my wireless my wired connection will be drop out then that's the time my wireless will be connected i dunno what seems to be the problem it's working before just yesterday it came to this situation
[03:08] <bananaboydean> Dr_willis: were you responding to me?
[03:09] <Karlo_> Probably means they bought someone's mailing list of 700k users, and auto-subscribed them.
[03:10] <Dr_willis> !info wmfs
[03:11] <bananaboydean> in reality i need to reset my window manager startup options and delete my ~.xinit and ~.xsessions files
[03:11] <bananaboydean> but i cant because i cant login
[03:11] <LogicandReason> Does anyone know how to install OpenOffice as a .gz?
[03:12] <bananaboydean> did you unzip it?
[03:12] <Karlo_> W|cKeD: Your question is hard to parse.  For a start, consider ending each sentence with a period.  At the very least, this will make more people willing to read it.
[03:12] <kevinch> Dr_willis: I got media tomb working
[03:12] <LogicandReason> Did I unzip it? Yes.
[03:12] <\\Mr_C\\> if i git the latest stable of the linux kernel, what do i need to do to just compile it and get the image file without actually installing it?
[03:12] <kevinch> very easy, thanks a lot!!
[03:12] <\\Mr_C\\> just a generic image
[03:12] <\\Mr_C\\> with all defaults
[03:13] <bananaboydean> and did you make it?
[03:13] <W|cKeD> my wireless will not working along with wired connection.
[03:13] <phunyguy_t430s> W|cKeD, I agree with Karlo_, lack of punctuation is very tough.
[03:13] <W|cKeD> before it was working fine both together
[03:13] <bananaboydean> LogicandReason: did you run the make command?
[03:13] <phunyguy_t430s> however I think I understand.
[03:13] <phunyguy_t430s> you want them both connected at the same time.
[03:13] <phunyguy_t430s> and that feature doesnt work?
[03:13] <LogicandReason> @bananabotdean What do you mean?
[03:13] <LogicandReason> Spelling would be nice...
[03:14] <W|cKeD> wired and wireless working fine. just yesterday i have to connect my wireless but it seems my wired connection will be drop. that goes in for my wireless to be connected.
[03:14] <bananaboydean> LogicandReason: when you unzipped the tar.gz file what was the file outputs
[03:14] <LogicandReason> @bananaboydean What do you mean?
[03:14] <phunyguy_t430s> W|cKeD, what is your native language? Your English is spotty...
[03:15] <W|cKeD> do i have to be a white american to be heard in this channel?
[03:15] <phunyguy_t430s> W|cKeD, relax, there are native channels for different languages, that is all.
[03:15] <Karlo_> No, but you do have to be able to communicate in English.
[03:15] <phunyguy_t430s> it makes it easier.
[03:15] <Dr_willis> Little Green men from mars are fun.
[03:16] <W|cKeD> ok...so been here before seems my problems are solved without any rejections due to my english grammar or somethin
[03:16] <W|cKeD> sorry
[03:17] <SaidKLE> W|cKeD: believe it or not, most of us have worse grammar
[03:17] <phunyguy_t430s> W|cKeD, just tell us what your native language is, please.
[03:17] <aarossig> Hi all, I am looking for advice on how to add fonts to the X11 font system.
[03:18] <aarossig> I wish to have the ubuntu font family displayed as part of the output of xlsfonts
[03:18] <W|cKeD> i can't and i will have to stay here coz i've installed my distro from scratch from this channel and i'll stick to it :)
[03:18] <aarossig> I am having some difficulty with this... I have been researching for nearly an hour now with no success. Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing?
[03:18] <tenX> W|cKeD: your english seems to be way more than acceptable
[03:18] <Dr_willis> aarossig,  you can copy .ttf fonts to the users .fonts directlry and they should be used
[03:19] <bulletrulz>  is it possible to install the old unity in ubuntu
[03:19] <bulletrulz> the orignal
[03:19] <Karlo_> If your native language is English, but you're just having trouble expressing yourself, that's something we might be able to work through in this channel.  If you're a native speaker of French, then we can direct you to a channel where things might go more smoothly.
[03:19] <Prabh> Hi all, I am having trouble with my new Ubuntu install: 1) The fan starts running as soon as ubuntu is on; overheats and shuts off every time; 2) When I plug in the headphones, there is no sound.
[03:19] <phunyguy_t430s> fair enough, W|cked.
[03:19] <Dr_willis> bulletrulz,  doubtfull. theres been to many changes.
[03:20] <bulletrulz> Dr_willis, but it was a good gnome 2 ui im using dockbarx and xfce to get a replica but would like to know if it is possible?
[03:20] <phunyguy_t430s> bulletrulz, the issue would probably lie with the differences between GTK2 and GTK3
[03:21] <bulletrulz> So No Unity orignal?
[03:21] <phunyguy_t430s> not in 12.10.
[03:21] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> hello all
[03:21] <aarossig> Dr_willis: No immediate luck. Is restarting X necessary (logout/in)?
[03:21] <bulletrulz> well ok can i install a global menu in xubuntu 12.10?
[03:22] <Karlo_> Oh ho.  I just realized that Ctrl-D is not something that affects the *current* window, after all -- it's a shortcut for the "hide ALL windows and show the desktop" thingy in the left corner of the bottom panel.
[03:22] <phunyguy_t430s> bulletrulz, you asked this before, and you can.
[03:22] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> how to set path for shell, 'm using dropbear
[03:22] <phunyguy_t430s> however it is 3rd party, so I am not sure how much support you will get.
[03:22] <Dr_willis> aarossig,  never really noticed. I just copy stuff to my .fonts directory and use the apps.
[03:22] <bulletrulz> phunyguy_t430s, i have? can u tell me how to do it?
[03:23] <phunyguy_t430s> there is a third party PPA if you can find it.  I don't remember where I found it.
[03:23] <aarossig> Dr_willis: ah, I see.. my problem goes beyond your "normal" modern apps that use the Xorg properly
[03:23] <bananaboydean> anyone have any luck running wmfs
[03:23] <bananaboydean> ?
[03:23] <phunyguy_t430s> I tried to do the same thing a while back and gave up.
[03:23] <phunyguy_t430s> !anyone | bananaboydean
[03:24] <Dr_willis> bananaboydean,  i dont think 'anyone' knows what wmfs is.
[03:24] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> how to set path  bash_profile ?
[03:24] <Dr_willis> Mukhthar_Ahmed,  theres a export PATH= line in the file you an alter. or add one to the end.
[03:24] <phunyguy_t430s> !patience | Mukhthar_Ahmed
[03:24] <Dr_willis> actually its in .profile these days i think. not .bash_profile
[03:24] <red5> not .bashrc?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> grep PATH .*    and see where its set
[03:25] <Dr_willis> .bsah_profile is read by login shells..   .bashrc is read by every bash shell i belive.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> .profile is used if .bash_profile does not exist.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> by default theres a .profile and a .bashrc (i think)
[03:26] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> I will try to be patience, mean while  checking the .profile
[03:26] <Dr_willis> explore them all. ;) put some 'echo this is .bashrc' at the start of .bashrc and so forth to see wht ones get ran when.
[03:26] <jrib> Karlo_: from google results, the default shortcut for show desktop seems to be ctrl-super-d
[03:26] <bulletrulz> another qestion does mate support gnome 2?
[03:26] <bulletrulz> plugins?
[03:26] <Dr_willis> bulletrulz,  you would have to ask in the #mate channel since its not part of Ubuntu
[03:27] <bananaboydean> Dr_willis: I figured this wouldn't be the best place to ask because wmfs is a program not included with ubuntu just no one on the wmfs forums seem to be online
[03:27] <phunyguy_t430s> bananaboydean, doesn't sound like a popular program....
[03:27] <J37> well, this is odd
[03:27] <tripelb> is there an ubotto test channel?
[03:27] <W|cKeD> my wired connection kept dropping, it started yesterday. before it was working smooth, like when my wired connection dropped i still got my wireless on, but now i can't do both at the same time, like i'll be using wired while my wireless is on and connected. for now if my wired connection will be dropped i need to click my wireless connection to connect or my wired to be back on track. any help to resolve this problem?
[03:27] <bananaboydean> phunyguy_t430s: its not i just really want it to work becasue of its beauty
[03:27] <Karlo_> jrib: Interesting.  I've remapped my keyboard so that I don't have a Super key.  I wonder if the tool assumes that, because of that, it needs to use the nearest equivalent.
[03:27] <phunyguy_t430s> tripelb, /msg ubottu
[03:28] <J37> apparently Ubuntu Software Center doesn't like me
[03:28] <phunyguy_t430s> type your commands there to test.
[03:28] <jrib> Karlo_: see if "xev" sheds some light
[03:29] <J37> USC goes full derp on me in that it says it doesn't install crap when it actually does
[03:29] <Karlo_> jrib: I already tried that.  It didn't.  :-)
[03:29] <jrib> Karlo_: hit ctrl-(some key that doesn't seem to do anything) and see if it's just ctrl getting generated or if super is in there
[03:29] <Karlo_> jrib: Justr Ctrl.
[03:30] <bananaboydean> How do I reset my windows managers?
[03:30] <jrib> Karlo_: how did you remap super?
[03:30] <J37> do i actually have a problem here, or is my machine just being a solid piece of derp?
[03:31] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, that is strange, so you say it goes through the motions of installing, or no?
[03:31] <red5> Software Center is derpy sometimes that way
[03:31] <schnoodles> Hey I just bought a new laptop and am going to partition it to install a few OS's I was wondering what a good size for ubuntu is these days ?
[03:31] <schnoodles> hdd size*
[03:31] <Dr_willis> bananaboydean,  depends on what you mean by reset. the default one is set by the .dmrc file
[03:32] <Karlo_> jrib: I used xmodmap to make the Alt key generate Meta, the CapsLock key generate Alt, and the window keys (which evidently are normally Super) generate Hyper.  I didn't bother to make a Super binding, as when I originally set this up, I assumed the hierarchy was Meta - Alt - Hyper - Super, and nothing would be going that far.
[03:32] <J37> phuny: it "didn't" install XChat, despite the fact i'm using it right now.
[03:32] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, well just sounds like an ignorable issue.
[03:32] <J37> ...if that makes any damned bit of sense
[03:32] <J37> its just annoying.
[03:33] <J37> some things dont actually install
[03:33] <jrib> Karlo_: k.  My next guess is that since you didn't have a super key, the binding got changed.  Did we determine if you are actually using unity yet though?
[03:34] <J37> then again, when i was running Windows 7, that was derpy as well...
[03:34] <J37> ...and my Mac literally burst into flames O.o
[03:34] <Karlo_> jrib: I haven't determined that.  http://imagebin.org/238720 might be info that would tell you.
[03:34] <phunyguy_t430s> J37 you could have some "derpy" hardware
[03:34] <jrib> Karlo_: hmm, that's not unity
[03:35] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> need to add PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games" could not figure out. hints please
[03:35] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> oops
[03:35] <jrib> Karlo_: actually, what's the output of « lsb_release -c »?
[03:35] <OerHeks> J37, what is your actual ubuntu problem, all in one line please
[03:36] <Karlo_> jrib: >> Codename: precise
[03:36] <phunyguy_t430s> OerHeks, he said it earlier, his software center doesn't work correctly.
[03:36] <J37> uhh... USC is being picky about what it installs and what it doesn't, and likes to tell me that it doesn't install anything when half the time, it does.
[03:36] <jrib> Karlo_: could be xfce maybe... Check what's running with « ps -ef »
[03:37] <Karlo_> jrib: No xfce in there
[03:37] <J37> then again, i'm running Ubuntu on a Toshiba that was recalled naught but 2 weeks after it came out
[03:37] <jrib> Karlo_: what is in there?
[03:37] <OerHeks> phunyguy_t430s, he is talking about crap, and "some things dont actually install" which is so vage
[03:37] <phunyguy_t430s> OerHeks, I disagree.
[03:38] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, can you run software center from the terminal to hopefully get some output during an install of something?
[03:38] <bananaboydean> Dr_willis:  i have seemed to damage them when messing around with windows managers and i really need to just remove my .xint and .xsessions folder
[03:38] <bananaboydean> file*
[03:39] <Karlo_> jrib: http://pastebin.com/ST7TjpWk
[03:39] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, the command is "software-center"
[03:40] <J37> uhh...
[03:40] <jrib> Karlo_: metacity :x
[03:40] <J37> ...terminal... i'm new to Linux, bro...
[03:40] <J37> hang on...
[03:41] <jrib> Karlo_: so maybe gnome-fallback
[03:41] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, click the launcher up on the top left, and type terminal in the text box
[03:41] <J37> k
[03:41] <phunyguy_t430s> should come up with a window that you can type commands in
[03:41] <J37> got it, phuny
[03:41] <Karlo_> (Insert random gripe about the "good old days" when I could do a ps and know what every single one of the processes was there for.)
[03:41] <erncic_> bananaboydean: is the system local where you can boot a live cd, mount the partition and delete or rename the files?
[03:42] <psycl0> excuse me please, hi i have an issue, whent ubuntu 11 try to boot, the screen is totally black, i don know what i do, please i need some help thanks!
[03:42] <phunyguy_t430s> were you able to launch software center by typing "software-center" without the quotes in there?
[03:42] <bananaboydean> yes, i just didnt want to i suppose i shall
[03:42] <phunyguy_t430s> and hitting enter
[03:43] <J37> just opened the usc window
[03:43] <phunyguy_t430s> from the terminal, J37?
[03:43] <Karlo_> Aha, Ctrl-Super-D is listed in shortcuts after all -- I failed to notice that I could scroll down in that list.
[03:43] <J37> took a bit of time
[03:43] <J37> yup
[03:44] <J37> my RAM is almost non existant
[03:44] <phunyguy_t430s> did any errors pop up in the terminal so far? or just random stuff?
[03:44] <J37> uhh... one sec.
[03:44] <psycl0> phunyguy_t430s are you talking to me?
[03:45] <J37> psycl0, he's talking to me.
[03:45] <J37> anyway, it gave me a WARNING message on one line
[03:45] <phunyguy_t430s> should just be some "INFO" stuff there.  Next step is to try to install something, and see if anything pops up.
[03:45] <elena-IK> is there a way to keep two directories automatically synchronized with each other? so that if I change a file in directory A the file also gets changed in directory B.
[03:46] <jrib> elena-IK: any reason you don't just use a symlink?
[03:46] <psycl0> thnks J37
[03:46] <J37> no prob, psycl0
[03:46] <phunyguy_t430s> warnings are OK as well J37
[03:46] <Karlo_> elena-IK: Make one directory be a symbolic link to the other, and then there's nothing to synchronize; they *are* the same directory.
[03:47] <elena-IK> jrib, Karlo_: I'm thinking of two different machines, one local copy, one on sshfs
[03:47] <J37> it said something like "could not get usefullness from server"
[03:47] <Karlo_> elena-IK: If the remote directory will always exist, a symbolic link could still be the way to go.
[03:47] <phunyguy_t430s> can you paste the relevant output to http://paste.ubuntu.com and send on the link to us?
[03:47] <phunyguy_t430s> J37^^
[03:48] <psycl0> hi, my name is fernando, im from argentina
[03:48] <psycl0> my english is very bad
[03:48] <Karlo_> elena-IK: But if you want to make sure that you really do have two copies, and just force them to periodically synchronize, then maybe rsync
[03:48] <psycl0> please excuse me
[03:48] <psycl0> i need some help, y cant try to boot my ubuntu :(
[03:48] <phunyguy_t430s> psycl0, what is your native launguage?
[03:48] <phunyguy_t430s> -u
[03:48] <psycl0> español
[03:48] <mickster04> !es
[03:49] <jrib> Karlo_: I'm off, but I would try in order: disabling the shortcut in system settings → keyboard shortucts, disabling it in dconf-editor, disabling it in gconf-editor, resetting your layout (possibly just create a new user) and seeing if anything changes
[03:49] <Karlo_> jrib: OK, the Ctrl-D problem is fixed.  I rebound it to something out of the way.
[03:49] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> added path successfully, for reference to others edited .profile  and added the line PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[03:49] <jrib> Karlo_: ok :)
[03:49] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> export PATH. logged out and logged in. in terminal echo $PATH to view the changes
[03:49] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> thank you all.
[03:50] <Karlo_> jrib: Interestingly enough, the "keyboard shortcuts" interface does *not* respect my xmodmap rebindings; it thinks that the Windows key is still "Super", etc.
[03:50] <jrib> Karlo_: that's not very nice of it
[03:51] <Karlo_> I suppose I could report it as a bug.
[03:52] <J37> phunyguy_t430s, here's the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422487/
[03:52] <phunyguy_t430s> J37 was that the output after a software install?
[03:52] <J37> nope
[03:53] <J37> that was running usc
[03:53] <phunyguy_t430s> ok lets do that step now, J37
[03:53] <jrib> Karlo_: well in 12.10, what you are using is gone.  I'm not sure if the project still lives on at all
[03:53] <J37> mmkay
[03:53] <phunyguy_t430s> pick something random like gparted or the like
[03:53] <phunyguy_t430s> or vlc
[03:53] <Karlo_> jrib: Wait, what is it that's gone?
[03:53] <J37> whats vlc?
[03:53] <jrib> Karlo_: the gnome-fallback session
[03:54] <phunyguy_t430s> J37 a useful media player
[03:54] <J37> ok.
[03:54] <phunyguy_t430s> !info vlc
[03:54] <J37> install from usc or command line?
[03:55] <jrib> Karlo_: at the login screen, you can choose different sessions.  You can explore the other choices there.  Unity is the default, though it's a bit different than what you are using now.  Some people love it, some hate it
[03:55] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, install from within USC and capture the command line output
[03:55] <J37> ok
[03:56] <Riderx> Does anyone have an easy-to-use joystick-to-keyboard utility they know of?
[03:57] <Karlo_> jrib: Well, I hate what I have now, so I'm happy to check out alternatives.  Especially if they have an option to reconfigure, which this thing evidently does not!
[03:57] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, if it doesn't install properly, we will try again from command line to see if it fails there as well.
[03:57] <phunyguy_t430s> then we will know if the issue is USC or aptitude.
[03:57] <J37> aight
[03:57] <Dr_willis> Riderx,  for what game? I cant say ive needed one of those apps in years
[03:58] <phunyguy_t430s> +1 Dr_willis
[03:58] <ace> anybody know how to logout of fluxbox
[03:58] <Riderx> Just in general, trying to get it for some games on chrome
[03:59] <phunyguy_t430s> ace, fluxbox has been dead for years.
[03:59] <Dr_willis> Riderx,  playing Mr. Fancy Pants? ;)
[03:59] <Dr_willis> !find joykey
[04:00] <Riderx> Nah, wanted to try it with Realm of the Mad God
[04:00] <Dr_willis> Used to be one called joy2key or somting like that.
[04:00] <Riderx> I found joy2key, but it's way over my head
[04:00] <phunyguy_t430s> well maybe not.  I am thinking of fluxbuntu
[04:00] <jrib> Karlo_: unity isn't known for its ability to reconfigure.  Still you might try it and see if you like it.  The other big options are xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop.  Both look similar to what you are using now though they're nicer to use in my opinion
[04:00] <Dr_willis> My Joystick i have actually is a keyboard. :) a HanHo Arcade controller.
[04:00] <J37> this is what my machine puked all over me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422502/
[04:00] <Riderx> And I couldn't find any instructions for joy2key
[04:00] <gitesh> how to remove other Desktop Environments ?
[04:00] <jrib> Karlo_: you can pretty much install as many as you want and just decide at the login screen what you want to use
[04:00] <Dr_willis> gitesh,  which other ones?
[04:01] <gitesh> K/L ubuntu
[04:01] <Dr_willis> gitesh,  basics.. fire up the synaptic package manager and search/remove.
[04:01] <ace> phunyguy_t430s, do you know how to logout of fluxbox??
[04:01] <Dr_willis> !puregnome
[04:01] <gitesh> okay
[04:01] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, it seems you have some lingering aptitude issues with a failed install.
[04:02] <Karlo_> jrib: This system was set up with me being the default user, auto login, no password, so I haven't actually seen the login screen yet.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> No password? Hmm.. or you just dont know it. ;P
[04:02] <jrib> Karlo_: I see, you should have the option to logout by clicking the gear in the top right corner if you want to try it
[04:02] <phunyguy_t430s> on that command line, can you do "sudo apt-get install -f"
[04:02] <phunyguy_t430s> J37^^^
[04:02] <jrib> Karlo_: anyway, I must go now.  Good night and good luck
[04:03] <gitesh> Dr_willis, tried puregnome. it says unable to locate package(s)
[04:03] <Karlo_> Dr_willis: I mean, "no password prompt".  I did have to reset my (unknown) password so that I could use sudo.  Goddam sister thought that it was better for me to experience that than for her to just tell me the password.
[04:03] <phunyguy_t430s> J37 then paste the output if it fails again
[04:03] <J37> so, what do i type in in the terminal?
[04:03] <phunyguy_t430s> (in paste.ubuntu.com)
[04:03] <Dr_willis> gitesh,  !stuff are bot commands.. read the factoid the bot said.
[04:03] <phunyguy_t430s> J37 - sudo apt-get install -f
[04:04] <phunyguy_t430s> then enter
[04:04] <phunyguy_t430s> then it should ask for your password, which is the same as your user password
[04:04] <phunyguy_t430s> if it pukes, pastebin the output.
[04:04] <Linuxuser1> What does the purge command do?
[04:05] <Dr_willis> uninstalls an app and its config files.
[04:05] <Dr_willis> but NOT the configs in the users home directory Linuxuser1
[04:05] <Linuxuser1> why not in the users home directory?
[04:05] <Karlo_> Damn it.  Now I'm at the "User Accounts" page, which *informs* me that I have automatic login, but doesn't seem to have a way to unset it!
[04:05] <Linuxuser1> And why would there be anything in the home directory?
[04:06] <J37> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422511/
[04:06] <Karlo_> Ah, there we go.  Unlock it first, then I can do that.
[04:07] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, please run sudo apt-get update
[04:07] <kvothetech> Linuxuser1: if you can login as your user you have stuff in your home dir at a minimum something for your shell
[04:08] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,  think about it.. you ran 'firefox'   you remove then reinstall  firefox with the package maanger tools.. you Dont want it removeing any configs/custome adons in  your users home dir.
[04:08] <phunyguy_t430s> you dont need to paste the output of that
[04:08] <DrGrov> Evening. Just installed 12.10. Now I wonder, how do I get rid of Amazon and Ubuntu One completely?
[04:08] <kvothetech> Linuxuser1: if you're in as your user in a gui you have a ton of stuff in your home dir for most of them
[04:08] <Linuxuser1> oh ok
[04:08] <Linuxuser1> So the configs that purge deletes are the ones in the system
[04:08] <Linuxuser1> not user directory
[04:08] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,  if you were running a Ubuntu box with 1000 users.. you definatly dont want to be messing with their homes. ;)
[04:09] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,  you got it.
[04:09] <Linuxuser1> K awesome!
[04:09] <SaidKLE> DrGrov: just access the privacy settings and flip off the switch that says "include online search results".  Get to privacy settings by searching for it in the dash.
[04:09] <Dr_willis> this is like opposite of how windows oftendoes it.
[04:09] <Linuxuser1> So if I installed irssi and edited it then deleted the app and reinstalled it would I still have all of the settings or would it be default?
[04:09] <Dr_willis> !adlens
[04:09] <phunyguy_t430s> DrGrov, you can disable the online results in the Unity lense under Privacy settings in System Settings
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,  your users configs stay in their home. the package manager tools do NOT touch anything in the users homes.
[04:10] <DrGrov> SaidKLE: But I want to completely remove Ubuntu One and Amazon. I do not want to see them at all anywhere anyhow :)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu One is to handy to remove. ;)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> but i dont think its actually installed untill you run it the first time
[04:10] <J37> update in progress
[04:11] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: I actually love Dropbox for that particular reason more than Ubuntu One ;-)
[04:11] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, good.
[04:11] <Dr_willis> DrGrov,  i use them all.
[04:11] <phunyguy_t430s> +1 DrGrov
[04:11] <DrGrov> Can I install Synaptic and just select everything that has to do with Ubuntu One?
[04:11] <DrGrov> phunyguy_t430s: Thanks :)
[04:11] <phunyguy_t430s> got 150GB of space with Dropbox currently.
[04:11] <J37> so this SHOULD fix my problem, right?
[04:11] <Linuxuser1> But, would I need to use --purge to delete irssi settings before reinstalling it if I wanted the default
[04:11] <phunyguy_t430s> J37, no promises.
[04:11] <phunyguy_t430s> but it just screams old package info.
[04:11] <DrGrov> phunyguy_t430s: Argh! I just got 25.25 GB since I bought my HTC One X.
[04:12] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,  you normally DONT alter the system wide default settings for apps like that. so only custome settings will bethe ones in theusers home
[04:12] <J37> lol, thanks
[04:13] <phunyguy_t430s> when it finishes, try that -f install command again
[04:13] <Linuxuser1> you don't get what i'm saying! let me re-explain
[04:13] <phunyguy_t430s> awww
[04:13] <Linuxuser1> if I type sudo apt-get install remove irssi it will remove irssi without removing it's settings correct?
[04:13] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,  its not really worth worrying about. ;) i rarely purge stuff.
[04:14] <Linuxuser1> Do I need to type sudo apt-get install remove --purge irssi to remove everything including its settings so If I reinstall it will be the default?
[04:14] <phunyguy_t430s> *sigh*
[04:14] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1, unless you are altering the default system settings for irssi. it wont matter.
[04:14] <Dr_willis> ie: /etc/irssi/defaults (or whatever it uses)
[04:15] <Linuxuser1> Dr_willis so if I reinstall it after I remove it regularly I will have it's default format with none of the changes I made previously?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> your user settings will override the system defaults for most apps
[04:15] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,  if you were altering SYSTEM files yes..but you RARELY need to alter the system files.. since the USERS files are what you will be changeing.
[04:15] <heoyea_> it looks in home folder, then system folder
[04:16] <Linuxuser1> Well I guess my question is, when I edit irssi's appearance does that alter system or home settings?
[04:16] <Linuxuser1> user*
[04:16] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,   a normal user ONLY affects stuff in their home directory.
[04:16] <mbrigdan> How is ubuntu now a days for support of ATI cards vs NVIDIA cards (using their respective proprietary drivers)? I remember a long time ago that I was told to basically avoid ATI because they didn't work well. Is that still true?
[04:16] <SaidKLE> If what you want to do is get rid of your settings and reinstall so that it goes back to default, uninstall it, and delete the hidden files in your home directory that have anything to do with it.
[04:16] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,   it wouldent m,ake sence for a user to be altering system files
[04:16] <linuxuser1> but irssi isn't even located in my home directory
[04:16] <SaidKLE> Reinstalling will bring them back as defaults.
[04:17] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,    your SETTINGS are.
[04:17] <Dr_willis> thats the main pointof a home directory. :) to keep your personal settings.
[04:17] <heoyea_> system folder is for all user, home folder is for 1 user
[04:17] <SaidKLE> If you can't see the settings folders, unhide them.
[04:18] <linuxuser1> Home folder doesn't have applications
[04:18] <linuxuser1> How do I unhide these files?
[04:18] <Dr_willis> linuxuser1,  it COULD and it dosent really need to 'have;' them since you run most apps fromthe system binary directories
[04:19] <almoxarife> linuxuser1: your file browser should have a 'un-hide' setting
[04:19] <phunyguy_t430s> linuxuser1, just ctrl-h hotkey in Nautilus to unhide or hide
[04:19] <Dr_willis> use the file manager - ctrl-h to show/hide nidden files.. or use the terminal. ls -a to show them
[04:19] <DrGrov> Ah, much better. Ubuntu One is gone. Muhahaha
[04:19] <SaidKLE> of "ll" will do the trick from a console.
[04:19] <linuxuser1> WOW Much better!! Now I can see my irssi folder
[04:20] <Dr_willis> DrGrov,  like it really mattered. ;)
[04:20] <linuxuser1> it has three files. config, default.theme, and fear2.theme
[04:20] <linuxuser1> So I guess I should delete fear2.theme
[04:20] <SaidKLE> Just delete the folder and reinstall if you want defaults back.
[04:20] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: Yes it did LOL :) Nah, it did not but I prefer to have everything completely clean and tidy.
[04:20] <Dr_willis> linuxuser1,  we dont know what you are trying to do.
[04:21] <linuxuser1> Well previously, I made it so that irssi had a different appearance. Now I want to have it back to default look and everything how it was when I first installed it
[04:21] <Dr_willis> linuxuser1,  if your end goal was to 'reset the irssi settings for your user back to defaults' then yes.. you remove stff from your .irssi dir.
[04:21] <heoyea_> delete the folder
[04:21] <Dr_willis> linuxuser1,  theres NO need to use the pacakge manager to remove irssi in that case
[04:21] <almoxarife> is there a gui for irssi?
[04:21] <linuxuser1> everything? Would irssi work?
[04:21] <heoyea_> almoxarife: xchat
[04:21] <phunyguy_t430s> linuxuser1, it will recreate what it needs.
[04:21] <Dr_willis> it will use the system defaults linuxuser1  like we said earlier.
[04:22] <jamamp> Anyone familiar with live-usb booting and macs? I have 12.10 live on my 1gb sdcard, boot into if through Refit, but all it (weirdly) does it go into my Ubuntu's(on my hdd) Grub2. why does it not boot just off my sdcard?
[04:22] <almoxarife> heoyea_: thnks
[04:22] <linuxuser1> Ok I deleted the folder. Now after I typed in irssi in terminal it said "Looks like this is the first time you'v erun irssi."
[04:22] <DrGrov> Is there any good way that I can test that my nVidia is set up properly? I do not see "Additional Drivers" popping up. It looks like I need to install it? What is the situation?
[04:22] <linuxuser1> Mission accomplished
[04:22] <linuxuser1> One last question :)
[04:23] <Dr_willis> DrGrov,  run the nvidia-settings tool ;)
[04:23] <Dr_willis> DrGrov,   the 'software-sources' tool has  'addational-drivers' in a tab.
[04:23] <Dr_willis> in 12.10 ;) at least
[04:23] <linuxuser1> If I removed irssi via software manager, would it remove the irssi folder in my home?
[04:23] <linuxuser1> the one I just deleted?
[04:23] <phunyguy_t430s> linuxuser1, no.
[04:23] <almoxarife> jamamp: your system is not booting from the sd, in pc language it is a bios setting that needs to change
[04:23] <phunyguy_t430s> so in case you reinstall later, your settings are still there
[04:23] <linuxuser1> really? what does that do then?
[04:24] <Dr_willis> Linuxuser1,  your users configs stay in their home. the package manager tools do NOT touch anything in the users homes.
[04:24] <phunyguy_t430s> linuxuser1, it removes the application.
[04:24] <Dr_willis> i said that earlier.....
[04:24] <Monotoko> how can I mount an FTP share... I've tried doing it from nautilus but it doesn't seem to mount it anywhere that's accessible from the terminal
[04:24] <Dr_willis> It would remove the SYSTEM binaries and files linuxuser1
[04:24] <phunyguy_t430s> Monotoko, look in /run/user/username/gvfs
[04:24] <phunyguy_t430s> replace username with your username
[04:24] <Dr_willis> Monotoko,  theres also the fuseftp tool or was it ftpfuse
[04:24] <linuxuser1> Do package managers touch things in the system?
[04:25] <jamamp> almoxarife: odd. well if that's true then no way of fixing it like that, cause EFI is different from BIOS.
[04:25] <Dr_willis> linuxuser1,  theres only the 'system' and the users 'homes' basically.. ;)
[04:25] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: How do I then know that it is enabled? It looks like it is recognized. But how do I install it, if that is needed even?
[04:25] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: It says it is using X.org server.
[04:25] <almoxarife> jamamp: a mac must allow for boot from other than hd
[04:25] <Dr_willis> DrGrov,   x.org is the x server.. the video driver is used by X. the x logs should say what driver its using. and i think theres glxinfo
[04:26] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: So I can check somehow if there is direct rendering enabled?
[04:26] <almoxarife> jamamp: i am supposing that it would though
[04:26] <Dr_willis> DrGrov,  theres also the nvidia-xconfig tool. I always just install the drivers and configure them and off i go.,
[04:26] <Dr_willis> glxinfo i belive mentions direct rendering..
[04:27] <phunyguy_t430s> Monotoko, did that work for you?
[04:27] <Monotoko> phunyguy_t430s, it looks like it's there... will it be remounted automatically on reboot?
[04:28] <phunyguy_t430s> Monotoko, if you install Gigolo, you can set up the share in that as an auto-mounted bookmark
[04:28] <phunyguy_t430s> just start Gigolo at login.
[04:28] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: This looks good. $ glxinfo  name of display: :0 display: :0  screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes
[04:28] <virtuaposta> hi guys
[04:28] <virtuaposta> need info
[04:28] <Monotoko> phunyguy_t430s, hmm, can I set it up to run before login?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> virtuaposta: greetings
[04:29] <almoxarife> doesnt nautilus have built in gigolo?
[04:29] <phunyguy_t430s> Monotoko, not for GVFS, no.
[04:29] <Monotoko> :(
[04:29] <phunyguy_t430s> almoxarife, not for automounting
[04:29] <virtuaposta> will removing raid from live machine affects data anyhow? is there any chances of data loss from remained HDD?
[04:29] <virtuaposta> thanks cfhowlett, greetings! :)
[04:29] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: I wonder though, should in any case install that nVidia properatry driver since I have had issues in 12.04? I had some strange errors popping up and thus did opt for 12.10 instead. How is it with video playback then in 1080p? Does that affect a lot depending on if I use the X.org or the properiaatry nVidia driver?
[04:30] <Dr_willis> DrGrov,  i always use the nvidia drivers on  my 4 nvidia boxs
[04:30] <phunyguy_t430s> Monotoko, gvfs is a per-user daemon.  If the user is not logged in, it is not mounted.
[04:30] <phunyguy_t430s> there may be other ways to mount the ftp share before then.
[04:30] <phunyguy_t430s> but i do not know.  perhaps someone else has more info.
[04:31] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: Okay. I hope I get it working now then. I had serious issues with it in 12.04. It made some nice popups coming with jockey-gtk crashing etc.
[04:31] <Monotoko> phunyguy_t430s, it'll work for now... thank you very much
[04:31] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: On another note, it made my display resolution show up as 1376x? when it should be 1920x1080 by default.
[04:31] <phunyguy_t430s> you're very welcome.
[04:31] <Dr_willis> it would be weird that jockey-gtk crashes..  its just a package installer tool
[04:31] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: Yes, it was strange :( I am sad.
[04:32] <Dr_willis> my systems show the proper res as soon as i install the nvidia drivers.. even twinview is enabled by default these days in 12.10
[04:32] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: Okay, I must have had a bad luck with it. I am testing now. Which one should I opt for?
[04:32] <phunyguy_t430s> only thing I don't like about the nvidia native, is a mnor thing, but the big bloated boot screen because of no native fb console support with the driver.
[04:33] <phunyguy_t430s> makes me crazy.
[04:33] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: I got a pretty new card, a nVidia GTS 250 1GB.
[04:33] <virtuaposta> I was having 2HDD's with RAID-1 and sdb failed, after closely observing the RAID configuration I also observed that /boot is not in RAID so I want to remove current RAID configuration and create new proper configuration. Is there any chances of data loss if I try to perform RAID removal from sda?
[04:34] <phunyguy_t430s> virtuaposta, do you mean making it a degraded raid 1 array?
[04:35] <zivester> anyone have a recommendation for setting screen colors on xubuntu w/ intel graphics ?
[04:35] <phunyguy_t430s> or making it a non-raid volume altogether?
[04:37] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: Did you need to reboot after enabling it? Apparently I got the right one since it is the recommended driver.
[04:39] <Patero-ng> hola
[04:39] <phunyguy_t430s> aloha
[04:39] <Patero-ng> precioso
[04:39] <Patero-ng> I have a question regarding performance
[04:40] <phunyguy_t430s> ask away
[04:40] <Patero-ng> I heard unity is bad what do you think
[04:40] <phunyguy_t430s> !poll | Patero-ng
[04:41] <doakes> i want to put a little clock widget on my desktop ( unity ).  how do i do that?
[04:41] <phunyguy_t430s> !conky | doakes
[04:41] <tenX> Patero-ng: if you are ng, what was your predecessor like?
[04:41] <phunyguy_t430s> hmmm
[04:41] <phunyguy_t430s> !info conky
[04:41] <phunyguy_t430s> doakes, you want conky.
[04:41] <Patero-ng> I took it from aircrack
[04:42] <phunyguy_t430s> !ot | Patero-ng tenX
[04:43] <virtuaposta> phunyguy_t430s, 'm not sure if to call it degraded raid but i just want to take the hard-disks out of raid with no data-loss and to reconfigure raid-1 again by replacing faulty HDD (sdb)
[04:43] <tenX> phunyguy_t430s: excuse my inacceptable behaviour
[04:43] <phunyguy_t430s> doakes, there are a million and one configurations for Conky that the community has written, I am sure one exists for a simple clock.
[04:44] <phunyguy_t430s> virtuaposta, you can run the RAID degraded as long as you need to, and as long as the second drive doesn't die.  Then when you get a new drive, you can add that drive to the array as a spare and it should build the array again on the new drive.
[04:45] <cute_bettong> hi i have a samsung series 7 chronos, and im having some odd issue with the wifi, the wifi will randomly disconnect, and i have to reboot my laptop to get internet back, the router is fine, it's soley my computer, is there anyone that can help me?
[04:45] <phunyguy_t430s> virtuaposta, you can remove one drive in RAID 1, and the system will work fine, it is just risky, because you have no protection from another failed drive.
[04:46] <phunyguy_t430s> cute_bettong, does it run Ubuntu?
[04:46] <cute_bettong> phunyguy_t430s, yes, im running ubuntu 12.04 32bit
[04:46] <virtuaposta> kool! thanks phunyguy_t430s :) now i will start taking remained drive out of RAID process..
[04:46] <Monotoko> just as a question, I've been pondering this for a few hours... what could cause 2 Windows machines to Blue Screen Of Death and a Linux machine to completely crash (kernel panic?) at the same time?
[04:46] <phunyguy_t430s> virtuaposta, best of luck to you
[04:46] <Monotoko> all connected to the same internal network
[04:46] <aarcane> gedit sucks, vim is so much nicer!
[04:47] <phunyguy_t430s> Monotoko, power surge.
[04:47] <orlok> Monotoko: hmm, crap.. marginal power?
[04:47] <Monotoko> phunyguy_t430s, I have a serge protector... and my other PC which is connected to a seperate router didn't die (don't ask why I have so many PC's, I run a small office from home >.>)
[04:47] <cute_bettong> phunyguy_t430s, any ideas?
[04:48] <orlok> Monotoko: or is somebody operating a microwave with the shielding removed, or were you arc welding your cases shut?
[04:48] <Monotoko> orlok... I had the microwave on, but I don't think it's unshielded...
[04:48] <phunyguy_t430s> Monotoko, you dont wanna know how many machines I have.  :) - anyway, it could also be a temp lack of power, like a brwonout
[04:48] <phunyguy_t430s> brownout
[04:48] <heoyea_> The matrix
[04:49] <Monotoko> heh, so nothing could have come from the router? A bad packet that made the computers connected die?
[04:49] <phunyguy_t430s> in taht case a surge protector doesnt do a thing.
[04:49] <phunyguy_t430s> Monotoko, not likely.
[04:50] <phunyguy_t430s> unless it was 1995.
[04:50]  * Monotoko eyes the router
[04:50] <Monotoko> nah, it was today XD
[04:50] <phunyguy_t430s> the ping of death comes to mind
[04:50] <phunyguy_t430s> anyways..... I'm sure you have unclean power.
[04:50] <phunyguy_t430s> or did for a second.
[04:51] <phunyguy_t430s> offtopic tough,
[04:51] <phunyguy_t430s> though*
[04:51] <Monotoko> I'm in an apartment complex for university... il bring it up with them
[04:51] <Monotoko> cheers again :P
[04:51] <phunyguy_t430s> anyways, it has been real.  I have to go shower.  work comes early.
[04:52] <phuong> +i phuong
[04:52] <khimera> hey everyone. I installed ubuntu from this image http://files.vagrantup.com/precise64.box using vagrant. Any idea why there is no /usr/lib64?
[04:54] <xangua> khimera: why would you download ubuntu from some untrusted site for start¿
[04:54] <Monotoko> khimera
[04:54] <Patero-ng> I want to know if the video driver for card hd 5770 runs better on ubuntu 12 then did on 11
[04:54] <Monotoko> monotoko@KatieLaptop:~/volumes/vol1$ cd /usr/lib64
[04:54] <Monotoko> bash: cd: /usr/lib64: No such file or directory
[04:54] <khimera> well i am using vagrant to test my deployment.
[04:55] <cfhowlett> khimera: download from ubuntu.com or expect unforeseen consequences
[04:55] <Monotoko> khimera, I don't have it either
[04:55] <khimera> is this a precise 12.0.4 change?
[04:55] <Monotoko> khimera... check /lib64
[04:55] <khimera> k
[04:55] <khimera> ahh i see let me try /lib64
[04:58] <khimera> i think /lib64 might be something else bc my compiles fail. But pointing to /usr/lib works. Just figured maybe there's a change in precise version
[05:00] <Zimm3r> When running totem and playing a video I keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/VHJvYkuV I think it is something with Xorg (sense it seems to have a lot of problems and it happens on other gstreamer based video players)
[05:01] <Zimm3r> I doubt it is a "error in the program" like the error says sense Totem 99.9999% of the time works
[05:05] <Zimm3r> Anyone know how to get Totem working again?
[05:06] <Patero-ng> I want to know if the video driver for card hd 5770 runs better on ubuntu 12 then did on 11
[05:07] <bananaboydean> Need help logging in, it goes to login and makes the login sound then returns straight to the login screen.
[05:08] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: the problem is a bug in the vid driver
[05:08] <cnz> anyone here use ceton infinitv 4 with ubuntu?
[05:09] <cnz> im getting this error when trying to compile the drivers
[05:09] <cnz> htpc@HTPC:~/Downloads/ceton_infinitv_linux_driver$ make
[05:09] <cnz> /bin/sh: 1: cd: can't cd to /lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/build
[05:09] <cnz> make: *** [ctn91xx_module] Error 2
[05:09] <cnz> htpc@HTPC:~/Downloads/ceton_infinitv_linux_driver$
[05:09] <FloodBot1> cnz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:09] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: Still got some issues. The display is not showing up right, it is stuck at 1300 something x 768 when it should be 1920x1080.
[05:09] <Zimm3r> almoxarife: so switch to the ubuntu driver and see; also how did you figure that out google?
[05:09] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: Any ideas? :)
[05:10] <Patero-ng> could you guys stop using google
[05:10] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: that error is very popular, i see it with intel graphics too, and i dont use totem
[05:11] <Zimm3r> almoxarife thanks wish it could be clearer but still thanks (kinda bad yet funny that it is so popular lol)
[05:14] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: what version of buntu?
[05:14] <Monotoko> bah.. screw this FTP stuff... can I run an SSH daemon on Windows?
[05:14] <vikjain> Hi , I would to know is there a reference site or book  to know needed path and its significance in ubuntu such as initd , rc# , ~/.bashrc etc i wanna read first before i post my doubt. Thanks
[05:14] <Zimm3r> 11.04
[05:14] <almoxarife> Monotoko: yes
[05:14] <W|cKeD> my wired connection kept dropping, it started yesterday. before it was working smooth, like when my wired connection dropped i still got my wireless on, but now i can't do both at the same time, like i'll be using wired while my wireless is on and connected. for now if my wired connection will be dropped i need to click my wireless connection to connect or my wired to be back on track. any help to resolve this problem?
[05:15] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: you should upgrade, 12.04 is damm stable and long term, it would make sense
[05:15] <Zimm3r> riddle with more cononical gui
[05:16] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: there are other desktops, kde here
[05:16] <cfhowlett> Zimm3r: xfce and kd3 are available ...
[05:16] <Zimm3r> no I am using gtk but don't like the continued custimaization by Canincal
[05:17] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: dont use unity, problem solved
[05:17] <WR47HANZ> what is the lightest gui for ubuntu?
[05:17] <cfhowlett> WR47HANZ: lxde and xfce are pretty light
[05:17] <almoxarife> WR47HANZ: xfce? xubuntu?
[05:18] <WR47HANZ> thank you
[05:18] <WR47HANZ> lxde was what I was trying to remember
[05:18] <Zimm3r> almoxarife: from what I have read it is more and more and pain to remove it but I will think of updating if I continue to have problems with Xorg
[05:18] <cfhowlett> WR47HANZ: it's already interated into lubuntu
[05:18] <almoxarife> WR47HANZ: lxde is a nice one, i prefer that over xfce\\
[05:18] <WR47HANZ> I had it running a couple of weeks ago but blew the install out
[05:18] <WR47HANZ> im very very new to linux
[05:19] <WR47HANZ> so I dont really even know the different buntu forks
[05:19] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: its not, once you have a second viable desktop that works, stripping the old is as easy as a rather long 'apt-get purge' command
[05:20] <Zimm3r> k
[05:20] <cfhowlett> WR47HANZ: technically, lubuntu is not a fork as it is an official ubuntu derivative.  see  http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[05:20] <WR47HANZ> nice, thanks for the link
[05:21] <DrGrov> Dr_willis: How about if I go back to older nVidia binaries? Can I somehow delete the current ones so that there will be no conflict?
[05:21] <WR47HANZ> im basically just going to use it for an htpc with xbmc/plex media server/mythtv backend
[05:21] <WR47HANZ> so I want everything very light
[05:22] <WR47HANZ> and from what ive been reading, xbmcbuntu has issues
[05:22] <almoxarife> WR47HANZ: got an android phone?
[05:22] <WR47HANZ> so...was just going to go with ubuntu and install those 3
[05:22] <WR47HANZ> yes to android
[05:22] <WR47HANZ> phone and tab
[05:22] <almoxarife> WR47HANZ: so throw lxde-buntu on it, does not get any lighter, literally
[05:23] <WR47HANZ> will definitely research that
[05:23] <WR47HANZ> thank you
[05:24] <almoxarife> WR47HANZ: tab would make more sense
[05:25] <WR47HANZ> true
[05:25] <almoxarife> lxde on droid offers some unique options not avail in the droid apps, WR47HANZ..., if you get my meaning
[05:26] <WR47HANZ> sort of
[05:27] <vikjain> Hi , I would to know is there a reference site or book  to know needed path and its significance in ubuntu such as initd , rc# , ~/.bashrc etc i wanna read first before i post my doubt. Thanks
[05:27] <WR47HANZ> thanks for the info. definitely lots to look into. time for bed though
[05:27] <WR47HANZ> nite
[05:27] <almoxarife> vikjain: be brave, post them doubts :)
[05:29] <almoxarife> i destroyed the dpkg data base thing for test purposes, seems one can force a 64bit app into a 32bit system, now to undo the damage is proving difficult
[05:29] <Dr_willis> !lfs
[05:30] <Dr_willis> hmm.. thats not it.. whats that linux filesystem layout url. ;)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> !lhs
[05:30] <cnz> is amd64 just for amd 64bit chipset systems
[05:30] <somsip> !fhs | Dr_willis
[05:30] <vikjain> almoxarife http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422595/
[05:30] <cnz> or will it work for intel 64bit systems?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[05:31] <Dr_willis> cnz,  its for intel also
[05:31] <cnz> k
[05:31] <Zimm3r> Ok almoxarife i uninstalled the proprietary driver and am now getting this with totem http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422596/
[05:34] <almoxarife> vikjain: you want to understand then 'apt' and 'dpkg' , the backbone of 'deb'
[05:36] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: the issue is corrected in version 12.04, xorg-edgers may have also fixed it (thats a guess)
[05:37] <Zimm3r> and your not just saying that to get me to upgrade right? :P ;) I'll try and update now
[05:39] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: how can i say this in a polite way???? i dont care what you decide, but if i was fixating on a bug and found that an upgrade corrected it, i would jump on it, or try the xorg-edgers ppa, that could really trash your box or not (always worked for me)
[05:39] <Zimm3r> almoxarife: sorry I meant it as a joke no meaness intended
[05:40] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: taken as a joke, i dont txt smileys well
[05:41] <Zimm3r> ok
[05:41] <almoxarife> Zimm3r: backup your important stuff in your /home dir and get yourself into a long term support version
[05:42] <almoxarife> so no dpkg gurus? how to strip a package from the database that really does not exist?
[05:42] <spinner> does anyone know where I can find a flowchart or explanation of how keyboard data is handled in Ubuntu  ?  Which layer..  kernel.xwindows  creates the scancodes, keycodes, keysyms ?
[05:43] <locojay> hi when connecting to vnc ubuntu 12.04 the screen redraws slowly. any i can have vnc work flawlessly. using vnc4server
[05:44] <spinner> I can't find a concise simple explanation what would help in writing a tutorial on altering keymapping
[05:51] <Shudorshon> হুম
[05:51] <Shudorshon> অবস্থা খারাপ
[05:54] <arvind> ethernet not working ubuntu
[05:54] <arvind> can anyone help me out?
[05:55] <brady2600> hi, i have sort of usb to sd card adapter, is there some way i can get it working on ubuntu?
[05:55] <arvind> sorry its wireless, through ethernet cable I can connect
[05:56] <arvind> but it is not detecting any wireless network
[05:57] <Nico_> hello good morning any one knows how to disable a audio hardware by the audio panel.. im traing to install a SB audigy SE alsa mixer mute but still not loadding (the old way) is configuring ~/asoundrc to take 7.1 or 5.1 but i have only 2.1 speakers so is not the problem only the /aplications/sounds does not click left .. so im a litl confused on the way hardware listener shows the ouputs maeby someone change the alsa-base script withou
[05:58] <DrGrov> Anyone else experiencing issues using the nvidia-current on 12.10? I can not get this installed at all. It just stucks at 1360x768 even though it should go to 1920x1080 as I had it on 10.04.
[05:58] <Nico_> me DrGrov  work on 640
[05:59] <crazyhair> YES!!
[05:59] <crazyhair> Ubuntu is truly the BEST LINUX OS in existence
[05:59] <DrGrov> Nico_: Ah, you are stuck on so low resolution?
[05:59] <crazyhair> I do not think or believe there is any better linux version than Ubuntu
[05:59] <crazyhair> I heard there will be a TV with Ubuntu is an OS, is that true?
[06:00] <DrGrov> I wonder, how can I remove these current nVidia drivers I am using? I will build it manually. Damn it, this can not be happening in 2012.
[06:00] <Nico_> 1920 x 1080 (60) still tryng to make the boys waking up abut pc resolutions .. but nothing DrGrov
[06:00] <Nico_> DrGrov:  do you install a beta
[06:00] <crazyhair> Hey guys will .NET and DirectX be supported in the future for Ubuntu?
[06:01] <DrGrov> Nico_:  No, I use the nvidia-current which is tested according to Additional Drivers / Software Sources -> Additional Drivers.
[06:01] <DrGrov> I wonder, I perhaps should try to remove the xorg.conf and just let it generate a new one upon reboot.
[06:02] <Nico_> you.. you are old player what do you got ??? DrGrov
[06:02] <Nico_> stop working ??
[06:02] <DrGrov> Nico_: Got where?
[06:02] <vikjain> almoxarife Yes
[06:02] <cnz> anyone know what package I need to install for gusb Im getting this error
[06:02] <cnz> No package 'gusb' found
[06:03] <Nico_> i still having problems -.. like the card stops but im ussing low at a .. 1600 x 1260
[06:03] <crazyhair> Hey guys?
[06:03] <Nico_> is not so cold here
[06:03] <almoxarife> vikjain: yes?
[06:04] <Nico_> i DrGrov  what model of nvidia
[06:04] <DrGrov> Nico_: A nVidia GTS250 1GB PCI-E 16X
[06:04] <almoxarife> vikjain: yes to what question?
[06:04] <Nico_> DrGrov: wait
[06:05] <vikjain> almoxarife i want to understand the apt , dpkg in deb pacakating
[06:06] <Nico_> DrGrov:  wide lcd ctr ?? vga hdmi s-video div ??
[06:06] <jordan_> exit
[06:06] <almoxarife> vikjain: that makes two of us then, i google myself, i dont have a link to offer up for the definative guide to apt or dpgk
[06:07] <almoxarife> !dpkg
[06:07] <DrGrov> Good. Why the hell did I even wait? I got linux-headers-generic installed. Just time to build it myself then, an older version of the nVidia.
[06:07] <almoxarife> !apt
[06:07] <DrGrov> Nico_: What are you mumbling about?
[06:07] <DrGrov> Nico_: Where are you exactly?
[06:07] <Nico_> current is 3-04 stable
[06:07] <Nico_> or 06
[06:07] <Nico_> updates !!
[06:08] <almoxarife> vikjain: there you go, the starter primer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[06:08] <Nico_> im talking about your ouput to the screen ??
[06:08] <Nico_> and what type of screen do you have
[06:10] <Nico_> im traing frist configure the audio for two ways the SB audigy SE and The HDMI output but need to stop at oll cost the S-PDIF output DrGrov
[06:11] <Nico_> after that i make an install of battlefield 3 and not stop
[06:11] <Nico_> :D:D
[06:12] <W|cKeD> my wired connection kept dropping, it started yesterday. before it was working smooth, like when my wired connection dropped i still got my wireless on, but now i can't do both at the same time, like i'll be using wired while my wireless is on and connected. for now if my wired connection will be dropped i need to click my wireless connection to connect or my wired to be back on track. any help to resolve this problem?
[06:12] <tenX> W|cKeD: done any updating?
[06:12] <vikjain> almoxarife thanks a lot..!!
[06:12] <Nico_> Nice card guy =)
[06:13] <W|cKeD> yup
[06:13] <W|cKeD> does it affect if i do some updates?
[06:14] <Nico_> i need real poweer here ^
[06:14] <crazyhair> Shouldn't updates fix problems and not bring more?
[06:14] <W|cKeD> i mean i do sudo apt-get upgrade tenX
[06:14] <tenX> W|cKeD: of course it can
[06:14] <tenX> W|cKeD: could be a driver issue for instance
[06:14] <W|cKeD> so is there any ways to rollback?
[06:15] <Nico_> why do not cd at /media/cdrom/pool/main and press tab fer one week 4 free :D
[06:15] <tenX> W|cKeD: yes but i'd rather try to compile an up-to-date driver
[06:15] <jamamp> EFI and grub bootloading is annoying, cannot for the life of me get it to work
[06:15] <cnz> what package do i need to install for installing gudev-1.0
[06:15] <tenX> W|cKeD: actually on ubuntu you should be able to run an earlier kernel
[06:15] <Nico_> that's im tolking the updates not come tested
[06:15] <W|cKeD> tenX,  how?
[06:16] <tenX> W|cKeD: just by picking it at boot
[06:16] <tenX> well got no grub menu at bootup?
[06:16] <tenX> then press TAB
[06:16] <tenX> it should come up
[06:16] <prakash> can anyone give me the link of redhat satellite iso
[06:16] <prakash> ??
[06:17] <cnz> no one know the answer?
[06:17] <Nico_> apt-titude install c***
[06:17] <W|cKeD> i'm having a dualOS here so when i do chose the distro before anything will appear on screen i have to press TAB?
[06:18] <Nico_> hello Guest45814  good morning
[06:18] <bazhang> W|cKeD, shift at boot to get grub
[06:18] <bazhang> Nico_, stay on topic
[06:18] <tenX> W|cKeD: dual os with grub as the boot loader should give you the choice of previous kernel versions
[06:20] <tenX> bazhang: good morning is already considered ot?
[06:20] <bazhang> tenX, let's move on
[06:21] <tenX> bazhang: lead the way :)
[06:21] <bazhang> it's shift to get grub tenX W|cKeD
[06:21] <tenX> bazhang: tab has always worked for me?
[06:21] <W|cKeD> i'll try thanx bazhang & tenX :) atlast someone do understand my english ahehehe
[06:22] <tenX> W|cKeD: np && gl
[06:24] <gtmanfredy> BullShark says he needs more pictures for his website https://github.com/BullShark/WakeUp
[06:24] <gtmanfredy> gtmanfredy Kharec bradlee BiDOrD sbward carandraug _dd Guest45814 WillMarshall branant seb__ resistivecorpse3 thomasd moza RSA jamamp ksinkar mzuverink Guest69223 abyss42 julianwa Pythagoras josephliu bfortified rootpt mns ritz DrGrov erpo bashtanov Nico_ freedomrun shengyao Doonz jean Jeremy3D nikdemin Gallomimia |oop philipballew \\Mr_C\\ simion worm Gentlecat Thete delinquentme grek1 Sm0kEz leo2007
[06:24]  * Sm0kEz is away (sleep) Gone: 5hrs 22mins 18secs
[06:24] <gtmanfredy> marcuspat zed45 Bry8Star{EB Vert MK` Emmanuel_Chanel vikjain L4STofS acidflash rawfodog linuxuz3r tualatrix cnz devour Shaun pigeonor_ DR01D-Engineer zaki pikeaero Zimm3r GSF1200S qos Duhz0r dirtydevil Squall5668 MAAAAD lieanu Grizly vahnpaper wedgeV machicola khimera xwalk_ shelwin SudoKing daniel-gnu jim29 JoFo lifelike cute_bettong Bustacap vivid Mailman JPMH yacks Patero-ng DogP stackofc1ts T3
[06:24] <FloodBot1> gtmanfredy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <bazhang> !ot | gtmanfredy
[06:24] <L4STofS> A?
[06:24] <bazhang> Sm0kEz, disable that
[06:24]  * Sm0kEz is away (sleep) Gone: 5hrs 22mins 53secs
[06:24] <philipballew> gtmanfredy, stop that now
[06:25] <Thete> wut?
[06:25] <Gallomimia> oh gawd kickban please.
[06:25] <bashtanov> hello! I use win/menu keys to change language. That said, win key alone and menu key alone are received by opera browser. That's really annoying. Do you know how to disable this (and at least is it a keyboard switcher problem or an opera problem)?
[06:25] <DR01D-Engineer> thats annoying
[06:25] <jamamp> anyone familiar with /efi/boot/bootx64.efi & grub.cfg for live usbs?
[06:31] <Nico_> bazhang:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422668/
[06:37] <Nico_> i got time for download a dvd torrent
[06:37] <bazhang> Nico_, a dvd torrent of what?
[06:37] <Nico_> of ubuntu who is the best for server
[06:38] <Nico_> in my case
[06:38] <bazhang> Nico_, why are you telling us this
[06:38] <Nico_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422668/
[06:39] <W|cKeD> tenX, aside from that my bluetooth ain't working now :(
[06:39] <Nico_> bazhang: today wel be return the I can hope to compile without net..
[06:39] <tenX> bluetooth is a bitch
[06:40] <bazhang> Nico_, did you have an actual support question? why are you posting your lshw info here
[06:40] <Nico_> entire LTS
[06:40] <bazhang> Nico_, stop posting random info. this is NOT the chat channel
[06:40] <Nico_> amd 64 seems not the best bazhang
[06:41] <Nico_> bazhang:  i need to move some jumpers to install ubuntu rigth ??
[06:41] <bazhang> Nico_, #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat NOT here
[06:44] <tenX> bazhang: what's your motivation to take care of anyone keeping it on topic?
[06:44] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[06:44] <IdleOne> Those are the motivations
[06:44] <bazhang> tenX, join #ubuntu-ops to discuss
[06:45] <tenX> whatever
[06:45] <Flannel> tenX: We have plenty of other places for you to chat about things that aren't relevant to this channel.  This channel can get really busy and it's difficult to keep up as it is, let alone with additional offtopic chatter.
[06:46] <tenX> okaaay
[06:46] <tenX> it was only a question
[06:46] <tenX> besides not being the one ot
[06:47] <Flannel> tenX: I was just answering your question, no offense intended.
[06:49] <tenX> Flannel: i know and respect the rules. also i'm not looking for trouble
[06:50] <tenX> Flannel: just wonder about peoples motivation in those cases where it doesnt take over
[06:50] <tenX> Flannel: chat is communication and has social components as well
[06:51] <tenX> but why bother about it
[06:51] <tenX> rules are rules
[06:51] <Flannel> tenX: eh, guidelines are guidelines.  It's not difficult to carry on support in here and conversation in -ot, once you get the hang of it, anyway.
[06:53] <Flannel> tenX: and, perhaps with the exception of pidgin, or whatever the default IRC client on recent installs is, handling multiple channels isn't difficult on a technical level.
[06:53] <tenX> Flannel: its all good. i was probably fighting for the wrong cause
[06:53] <almoxarife> in vbox running xfce-buntu, will the pae kernel function any better than the generic if i dont plan on getting anywhere needing the +4gig of mem?
[06:54] <tenX> Flannel: maybe and i c were your coming from
[06:54] <tenX> Flannel: i regret it already man
[06:59] <DrGrov> Hi. Is there any way I can purge and complete remove linux-headers-generic and linux-source? It is still conflicting with my nvidia-current and GTS250 card.
[07:00] <Patero-ng> guys
[07:00] <Patero-ng> which version of ubuntu runs better graphics 12.04 or 12.10
[07:00] <DrGrov> Ah, why did I not figure this out before. I did not even have linux-source installed LOL
[07:00] <DrGrov> Sorry about that
[07:02] <Patero-ng> I asked a question does anyone knows?
[07:02] <bazhang> Patero-ng, it varies. which card
[07:02] <Patero-ng> hd 5770
[07:03] <bazhang> Patero-ng, do you currently have ubuntu installed
[07:03] <Patero-ng> no
[07:03] <tenX> Patero-ng: thats more of a driver issue. most of the time it'll be better the newer
[07:04] <Patero-ng> isn't the driver that comes with ubuntu the best option for my card
[07:05] <tenX> Patero-ng: cant answer specifically but basically more recent versions will have newer drivers
[07:06] <tenX> Patero-ng: you can also install drivers manually
[07:06] <heoyea_> open source drivers
[07:06] <Dr_willis> The Open sourced drivers can work fine for some cases. depends on how old your card is.
[07:06] <Dr_willis> but if the nvidia drivers can work  for your card, id reccomend them.
[07:07] <tenX> Patero-ng: questionable if it makes a difference
[07:07] <heoyea_> unless ur gonna play games
[07:07] <tenX> Dr_willis: isnt his card ati? ;)
[07:07] <Dr_willis> No idea. I dont memoriuze card names any more
[07:07] <Patero-ng> ati yes
[07:07] <Patero-ng> is not old is it
[07:07] <tenX> Dr_willis: something like hd 5000 ;) not into it as well
[07:08] <Dr_willis> They just seem to have random names these days. ;)
[07:08] <tenX> heoyea_: games? on linux?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> Patero-ng,  its your card. you tell us how old it is. ;)
[07:08] <Patero-ng> is from around 2010
[07:08] <Patero-ng> I want to play this game on linux I believe it will have better performance then on windows
[07:08] <SierraAR> tenX: I play games on ubuntu :P
[07:09] <heoyea_> tenX: yea they got tuxracer
[07:09] <Dr_willis> ati has a good/bad habbit of dropping their cards  from the official fglrx drivers fairly quickly.
[07:09] <tenX> heoyea_: :D thats what i thought of ;)
[07:09] <tenX> SierraAR: like?
[07:09] <SierraAR> tenX: OpenTTD, Battle for Wesnoth, Powder Toy
[07:09] <SierraAR> The rest are on the windows boot xD
[07:09] <Dr_willis> Been Playing that Rochard Game here lately
[07:10] <Dr_willis> gotta love Humble Bundle Deals.
[07:10] <tenX> SierraAR: dont know those, not really into gaming any more :) used to play ut2k4 on linux
[07:10] <tenX> SierraAR: but they're up to release steam arent they
[07:10] <Patero-ng> I believe urban terror will give me better framerate of linux then on windows because the drivers from linux are purer
[07:11] <Dr_willis> then about a dozen games on my steam account seem to have native linux ports.  But its odd that some games i KNOW have native linux ports re not listed on my steam client.
[07:11] <jonathon> What's the command to make every file in the current folder accessable to everyone instead of just root?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> jonathon,  is this on a vfat/ntfs partion?
[07:11] <jonathon> Dr_willis ext4
[07:11] <SierraAR> tenX: ut2k4?
[07:11] <argo> hello, I am upgrading a computer from natty, but it is on a fairly old mchine, at least it does not support PAE, so when I dist-upgrade, can I be sure that the new kernel is without PAE?
[07:11] <tenX> SierraAR: unreal tournament
[07:12] <SierraAR> I should've guessed that xD
[07:12] <Dr_willis> !permisssions
[07:12] <SierraAR> We have that on xbox
[07:12] <Dr_willis> !permissions
[07:12] <jonathon> Cool, Thanks
[07:12] <Dr_willis> arosen,  12.10 dosent have a nonpae kernel.
[07:12] <tenX> SierraAR: all i play today is cs :)
[07:12] <Dr_willis> theres some ways around it from what ive seen.. but stick to 12.04 would be the best net.
[07:13] <heoyea_> jonathon: think chmod -R 777 foldername
[07:13] <L3top> Dr_willis: any idea why?
[07:13] <SierraAR> tenX: I've been looking for more decent games for linux/ubuntu, havent come across many that are stable and interest me though
[07:13] <Dr_willis> 'acessable' files could be defined as 'readable' not writeable. ;)
[07:13] <Dr_willis> L3top,   no idea. guess they dident want to be tied to the past/old hardware..
[07:13] <tenX> SierraAR: hopefully steam port will change that
[07:14] <SierraAR> tenX: Yeah, I'll likely still be using steam on windows though XD
[07:14] <heoyea_> frozen bubble, hex-a-htop, urban terror, glests only games i liked on linux
[07:14] <SierraAR> Unless they get some linux-only games
[07:14] <Dr_willis> Mame ;)
[07:14] <tenX> SierraAR: why? if you had the choice
[07:14] <notwist> SierraAR: you can use it on both. Also it was in response to you saying "ive been looking for more decent games"
[07:14] <jonathon> heoyea_, aye, that should be it. Thanks
[07:15] <argo> How can I make sure that a dist-upgrade will take the non PAE kernel?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> jonathon,  777 is readable. writeable AND executable..
[07:15] <jonathon> Dr_willis, Yea, that works
[07:15] <notwist> Dr_willis jonathon for everyone on the system, might I add.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> jonathon,  dosent make much sence to make non-executable files   executable.
[07:15] <Patero-ng> I have another question
[07:16] <Dr_willis> directories have to be executable if you want peopler to be able to access whats in them
[07:16] <Patero-ng> where to get ubuntu 11 for 64bit phenom ii I can only see the amd64 for macs on the website why?
[07:16] <tenX> Dr_willis: but if the force is with you?
[07:16] <jonathon> Dr_willis, Yea, but it's better than going through each file one by one and setting them seperatly
[07:16] <Dr_willis> jonathon,  thats why theres the find command. ;)
[07:17] <tenX> Dr_willis: but hey if it was you wouldnt have to make it executable it would just run
[07:17] <jonathon> Dr_willis, True, But one quick command to change em all it once is easier.
[07:18] <Dr_willis> bad habbits are bad.
[07:18] <Dr_willis> dont do any typos when changeing them either. ;)
[07:18] <jonathon> Alright, That made it do what I neede it to do. I'm off for now. Thanks guys
[07:18] <Patero-ng> can you guys tell me where to download ubuntu 11 for my amd phenom ii
[07:18] <Dr_willis> seen SEVERL people this week asking how to 'undo' chmod mistakes to their systemdirectories
[07:19] <jonathon> Haha
[07:19] <Dr_willis> Patero-ng,  thats not compatle with a normal AMD/Intel CPU?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> compatiable.
[07:19] <jonathon> Atleast mine wasn't a system directory
[07:19] <Patero-ng> Dr_willis are you playing words with me
[07:19] <Dr_willis> jonathon,  they made a mistake and had a space after a / path/  ;)
[07:20] <jonathon> Oy, some people
[07:20] <tenX> Patero-ng: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[07:20] <notwist> Dr_willis: is there actually a way to "undo" chmod changes? (I assume there is not)
[07:21] <Patero-ng> tenX this is the only version of ubuntu 11 http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/11.10/release/ and is for macs!
[07:21] <notwist> stobix: en göteborgare!
[07:21] <blackshirt1> anyone here experienced with linux containers setup ?
[07:21] <Dr_willis> notwist,  not very easially. ;)
[07:21] <tenX> Patero-ng: maybe
[07:22]  * Dr_willis dosent understand why there needs to be a special Ubuntu for Phenom cpus
[07:22] <heoyea_> they have LXC
[07:24] <blackshirt1> heoyea_: I need run gui inside containers
[07:24] <heoyea_> dont think they have any guis for it yet
[07:26] <Gaddel> hi, i have a HDD and an SSD, with windows 8 currently on the HDD. i'd like to install a linux distro to the SSD. how should i handle GRUB and installation?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Gaddel,  id put grub on the SSD and set the bios to boot the SSD. leaving windows untouched.
[07:27] <Dr_willis> You could even Unplug the windows hd if you wanted tobe truely paranoid. ;)
[07:27] <Gaddel> dr_willis: during the ubuntu install, is there an option to set where grub is? i haven't installed it in quite a few years
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Drop down menu to say where to put grub.
[07:27] <Patero-ng> I need a ubuntu 11 version for a phenom 2
[07:27] <Gaddel> dr_willis: thanks
[07:28] <Patero-ng> why does it says is recommended to download a 32bit version?
[07:29] <Dr_willis> Patero-ng,  idiot-proofing.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> if the person has NO idea what to get.. they are reccomened to get the 32bit as a 'it should always work' solution
[07:31] <Patero-ng> that's not actually better now days most people has 64bit
[07:31] <laumonier> hi ive got a realy slow wifi connection under wy ubuntu session unlike windows which is pretty fast is there a common issue with ubuntu wifi?( im currently on windows all i can say that my mod is rt2800usb)
[07:32] <somsip> Patero-ng: 64 bit works fine here on a Phenom 955
[07:32] <Dr_willis> i still cant find any mention anywere of a special ubuntu needed for a phenom II ;)
[07:32] <Patero-ng> so what version for 64bit then
[07:32] <Patero-ng> that says is for macs and where did the 32bit ver of ubuntu 11 go
[07:33] <zim_> How would I disable logs entirely on my machine? I'm trying to reduce this machine's power usage as much as possible, which includes removing unnecessary disk writing. Obviously this machine will never be networked.
[07:34] <Dr_willis> just select 64bit on the download page and it should be that one..
[07:34] <notwist> Patero-ng: he didn't say that most people don't have 64 bit, everyone knows that, its just that the 32 bit version of Ubuntu is more "stable" or atleast is more supported in all kinds of software, but download whatever you feel like
[07:34] <heoyea_> zim_: i mount my logs, /tmp ..etc to ram
[07:34] <Patero-ng> dudes
[07:35] <Patero-ng> I want to install ubuntu 12 on a usb stick from windows 7 how to?
[07:35] <bazhang> Patero-ng, why not get 12.10
[07:35] <notwist> Patero-ng: use unetbootin, google for it
[07:35] <Patero-ng> I have good experience and ubuntu 11 and graphics
[07:35] <bazhang> Patero-ng, just cat the iso over
[07:35] <heoyea_> theres old torrents online
[07:35] <notwist> bazhang: cat the iso over from windows? :P
[07:36] <heoyea_> cygwin
[07:36] <bazhang> notwist, ah good point. cmd.exe has no cat I guess
[07:36] <notwist> heoyea_: getting cygwin just to do cat instead of using unetbootin is stupid
[07:36] <Dr_willis> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:36] <bazhang> Patero-ng, so use unetbootin
[07:36] <heoyea_> still possible
[07:36] <notwist> heoyea_: never said it wasnt
[07:37] <Patero-ng> ok guys thanks for your help
[07:37] <notwist> cheers
[07:37] <Patero-ng> do you know if quake3 engine runs better on linux then on windows
[07:37] <Dr_willis> pendrivelinux site has numerous tools to put theiso on a usb
[07:37] <notwist> Patero-ng: no idea to be honest, i would think the hardware makes the most difference but other than that no clue
[07:38] <Patero-ng> cause I had sweet graphics on ubuntu 11 once
[07:38] <Patero-ng> more smoother then on windows xp
[07:38] <notwist> Patero-ng: its possible
[07:39] <Dr_willis> http://www.quakelive.com/#!home :)
[07:39] <notwist> Patero-ng: if you want to run games with a high fps id suggest you look into something like XFCE instead of Gnome/Unity thats packed as standard for Ubuntu
[07:39] <notwist> Patero-ng: or for slower computers in general, XFCE or similar is better
[07:39] <Patero-ng> omg really
[07:39] <Patero-ng> but my computer is not old
[07:40] <notwist> well it could still run better
[07:40] <Patero-ng> I just bought it on newegg
[07:40] <notwist> less resources for Gnome means more for whatever software you're running
[07:40] <notwist> but if its a new computer, go ahead and try Ubuntu with regular Unity, you can always switch later
[07:40] <notwist> go ahead and experiment :p
[07:41] <Patero-ng> guys!
[07:42] <Patero-ng> I'm using unetbooing and is asking me what version of ubuntu 11 to install out of net,hdmedia,live what should I use
[07:42] <zim_> heoyea_: how?
[07:42] <zim_> heoyea_: excuse my noobishness
[07:43] <heoyea_> zim_: open up fstab
[07:43] <notwist> Patero-ng: if you already downloaded the ISO, point to that
[07:43] <notwist> Patero-ng: youre looking at the options to download
[07:44] <Bry8Star{EB> Hi, What type of Spying activity does Ubuntu do ? or what is Richard Stallman talking about Ubuntu ?
[07:44] <heoyea_> zim_: then add for example tmpfs   /var/log   tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=0755   0  0
[07:44] <notwist> Bry8Star{EB: it sends searches to Amazon
[07:44] <bazhang> !adlens | Bry8Star{EB
[07:44] <heoyea_> zim_: tmpfs   /tmp    tmpfs   defaults,noatime,mode=1777   0  0
[07:44] <heoyea_> zim_: ...etc u can check online for others
[07:45] <zim_> heoyea_: Thank you :D
[07:45] <heoyea_> zim_: like var var/run
[07:45] <Patero-ng> guys
[07:46] <Bry8Star{EB> notwist, ;) ouuuch / ooops ... oh great, Thanks need to do/apply your indicated process .. thanks
[07:47] <zim_> heoyea_: thank you very much
[07:47] <notwist> Bry8Star{EB: sudo apt-get remove --purge unity-lens-shopping
[07:47] <Bry8Star{EB> thanks to bazhang also
[07:48] <Bry8Star{EB> wow , thats best/easier (i think) ... thanks, notwist
[07:55] <Doyle> Why does /etc/ppp/chap-secrets create a new entry every time I attempt to connect to my work vpn? They're all the same
[07:55] <Doyle> do I use a different command after pptpsetup to launch the connection?
[08:08] <phr3d13> i am having video issues, but only when my computer is left on for a while... once it messes up i have to ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal then 'sudo restart lightdm' will get me back to a working desktop, how do i stop this from happening?
[08:10] <baran> alo
[08:12] <heoyea_> phr3d13: maybe clean ur pc
[08:15] <vadix> phr3d13: can you give any info?
[08:15] <vadix> system, hardware?
[08:16] <phr3d13> vadix, i remember seeing "...max number of clients reached..."
[08:16] <phr3d13> ubuntu 12.10
[08:17] <phr3d13> nvidia graphics
[08:17] <vadix> laptop or pc?
[08:17] <phr3d13> pc
[08:17] <vadix> kernel version?
[08:18] <phr3d13> just updated a few mins ago but ...  3.5.0-19-generic
[08:18] <phr3d13> haven't rebooted since update
[08:19] <phr3d13> so that might change at next reboot
[08:19] <vadix> yep, let's try it
[08:19] <phr3d13> brb
[08:22] <MK`> Hey, for some reason after upgrading I can no longer right click on things in my taskbar, any idea what that could be?
[08:22] <baran> #dalnet
[08:23] <Witwe> udev eject autoclose cd-tray - anything new against this nuisance?
[08:24] <norwack> What would be the commands to get sound? alsamixer, pulseaudio etc..uninstalled all and trying to get help, didnt get any sound on my default speakers nor usb headset
[08:24] <phr3d13> Linux 3.5.0-20-generic
[08:25] <MK`> norwack: I usually need to fiddle with one or the other whenever I have sound issues. It's like one doesn't tell the other what it's doing.
[08:25] <phr3d13> vadix, Linux 3.5.0-20-generic
[08:26] <norwack> MK`: Yeah, but whats the proper commands to install those sound applications?
[08:26] <lkthomas> guys, when I use time command, which one is the total consumed time ?
[08:27] <MK`> norwack: sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[08:28] <TakeItEZ> lkthomas: real
[08:28] <lkthomas> TakeItEZ: thanks
[08:29] <vadix> phr3d13 how now? is issue still present?
[08:29] <phr3d13> i won't know till i let it sit for a while
[08:30] <vadix> try suspend manually
[08:30] <zim_> I have a peculiar problem. I'm trying to use proxychains but proxychains is only able to connect to transparent proxies. I can connect to L1/L2 proxies perfectly elsewhere. Any ideas?
[08:30] <phr3d13> how?
[08:31] <zim_> Note: this behavior is observed even if it is the only proxy being used in PC
[08:31] <RomeoAva> Please. From last update, one week ago,  Ubuntu 12.10 is not opening. after 3 try is opening in bed resolutions
[08:32] <baran> hey don't disconnect me please
[08:32] <RomeoAva> all starts when I shot the comp and Ubuntu said the Gnome is not working but I shut it anyway
[08:33] <heoyea_> dont shoot the computer
[08:34] <norwack> MK`: How can i choose my USB headset as the default playback device?
[08:35] <MK`> I am not sure how to do that via Alsa, if it can be done. I do that via pulseaudio
[08:36] <heoyea_> norwack: install pavucontrol
[08:36] <norwack> heoyea_: What would i need alsamixer for then?
[08:37] <heoyea_> u wont
[08:37] <vadix> phr3d13 in upper right corner click at power gear and select suspend
[08:38] <norwack> heoyea_: Won't i need pulseaudio installed to use pavucontrol?
[08:38] <heoyea_> norwack: should be already installed
[08:42] <EthProb> hi...i cannot get online because both wired and wireless adapters have eth4 assigned....how can i assign different eth??
[08:45] <ikonia> EthProb: they both can't have that assigned
[08:45] <EthProb> when i type ifconfig it tells me it uses eth4...when i type iwconfig it tells me it uses eth4 as well
[08:46] <ikonia> EthProb: please pastebin the following "sudo ifconfig -a" and then "sudo iwconfig"
[08:46] <ikonia> (is that possible)
[08:46] <ikonia> EthProb: you know that ifconfig also lists the physical device for the wifi device, and iwconfig only exists the wifi enabled devivce
[08:47] <ikonia> EthProb: to it's probably eth4 is your physical wifi device, and eth4 is your wifi enabled device (meaning that is just your wifi, not wired network)
[08:51] <EthProb> thanks ikonia i could resolve it ;)
[08:51] <ikonia> EthProb: was I right ?
[08:51] <EthProb> you were totally :)
[08:51] <ikonia> phew
[08:51] <ikonia> cool
[08:52] <EthProb> :)
[08:52] <TakeItEZ> !cookie | ikonia :)
[08:56] <automaciej> sudo modprobe nvidia → FATAL: Module nvidia_experimental_310 not found.
[08:57] <automaciej> Has anyone else seen this in a new installation of 12.10?
[08:57] <automaciej> (provided you have an nvidia card and install the proprietary driver)
[08:57] <ikonia> that doesn't look like he version from 12.10
[08:57] <ikonia> where did you get the nvidia driver
[08:57] <automaciej> sudo aptitude install nvidia-experimental-310
[08:58] <ikonia> !info nvidia-experimental-310
[08:58] <ikonia> what repo did that come from ?
[08:58] <automaciej> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422812/
[08:59] <ahmed_> hg
[09:01] <automaciej> I had the same problem with 304 driver
[09:05] <sunny_xiaobai5> 不会用
[09:07] <norwack> I think i fixed the problem, but i dunno how :p
[09:15] <_paul> Hello all
[09:15] <automaciej> sudo aptitude install linux-headers-generic; sudo aptitude reinstall nvidia-experimental-310 ← fixed the problem
[09:16] <automaciej> the nvidia package install script couldn't build (link?) the module because there were no kernel headers on a fresh installation
[09:16] <automaciej> maybe the nvidia package doesn't have kernel headers listed as a dependency
[09:17] <_paul> I am having some trouble with an install is anyone available to help?
[09:21] <auronandace> !aptitude | automaciej
[09:21] <auronandace> _paul: you'd need to explain the issue for people to help
[09:21] <grumpyrj> _paul: I'm guessing the reason you've not had a response is because you never said what you are having problems with. How can anyone know if they may be able to help without know the problem.
[09:22] <grumpyrj> oh
[09:24] <automaciej> auronandace: thx
[09:24] <_paul> It is actually a problem with a Linux Mint install but the guys in their IRC have directed me to you as they reckon you guys know more about these kind of things. I basically can't get past the language selection when I try and install, the entire system freezes up, I have found a few threads about it and have tried to apply the fixes to no avail. I am lead to believe this may be caused by the fact that I am using a Proline Logitech m
[09:25] <auronandace> !mint | _paul
[09:26] <Myx0x3> how do i disable ssh login for an user? ive tryd DenyUsers username in sshd_config..
[09:26] <TakeItEZ> mint people send users _here_ if they have problems with mint-installer? sounds ... odd
[09:26] <faLUCE> hi, where can I find a list of new programs for linux that are much appreciated by the community?
[09:26] <_paul> I know that mint isn't supported here but I was going to switch to ubuntu if I was unable to install it. If they suffer from the same bug there isn't much point so I just wanted to clarify
[09:26] <TakeItEZ> Myx0x3: have you restarted ssh after that?
[09:26] <Myx0x3> TakeItEZ: ofcs
[09:26] <evol-gsc> I don't know what's wrong with my gwibber,I have reinstalled it many times but still without desktop notifications.However,these was a thread rather than a frame...
[09:27] <evol-gsc> In ubuntu12.04
[09:27] <auronandace> _paul: you haven't tried ubuntu yet so you don't know if the same bug exists
[09:27] <TakeItEZ> Myx0x3: you add just a plain username or user@foo.bar?
[09:28] <Myx0x3> TakeItEZ: plain username
[09:28] <Myx0x3> what if the user is "admin" could it bypass the "deny"?
[09:29] <Myx0x3> cause the user from an tamplate i got from my VPS host, but i want to disable that user, cause ive made new users
[09:29] <TakeItEZ> Myx0x3: shouldn't because DenyUsers is the first rule being used
[09:30] <Myx0x3> TakeItEZ: aha okay, do need to place DenyUsers on bottom of the config file?
[09:30] <TakeItEZ> Myx0x3: nope, doesn't matter
[09:32] <Myx0x3> TakeItEZ: maybe it works better if i write the correct username, haha..
[09:32] <TakeItEZ> Myx0x3: that _might_ help, yes
[09:32] <Myx0x3> TakeItEZ: haha, i feel so stupid right now :D
[09:32] <Myx0x3> well thanks anyway :)
[09:33] <Myx0x3> "Permission denied, please try again."  yaay
[09:33] <OerHeks> !grub
[09:35] <gmg85> does anyone know of a free tablet and smartphone simulator i can install on ubuntu?
[09:35] <jalcine> Hey, I want to switch from 32-bit Ubuntu to 64-bit without re-downloading a new ISO
[09:36] <jalcine> can I just install a different arch and go off from there?
[09:36] <stroodlepup> hi, i'm in need of help
[09:36] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: State your issue, hopefully someone will be able to help you.
[09:37] <stroodlepup> I use an hp 550 laptop, and my card reader does not work
[09:37] <grumpyrj> stroodlepup: see if your reader shows up in lspci or lsusb or dmesg
[09:37] <stroodlepup> it has worked before, but it seems the current version of ubuntu does not support it :(
[09:37] <grumpyrj> ah
[09:38] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: no question it can work just fine with the right drivers in that case. i'm looking around.
[09:40] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: Do you know the name of the card reader?
[09:40] <stroodlepup> it's an internal card reader
[09:40] <stroodlepup> no
[09:40] <stroodlepup> wait, i'll check
[09:40] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: Could you run "lspci" and post the output to a pastebin for me?
[09:40] <rrajbe> Hi, I want to write a c program to check owner of a process is root or not. Is it possible?
[09:40] <lhavelund> rrajbe: Possibly; you may want to try another channel, though -- like ##programming or ##c
[09:40] <ikonia> sure
[09:41] <rrajbe> lhavelund: Thanks. :)
[09:41] <lhavelund> rrajbe: Welcome! Good luck.
[09:41] <lhavelund> rrajbe: Alternatively, hit up ikonia in #ubuntu-offtopic. ;)
[09:41] <stroodlepup> it only had 'express card' on the specs
[09:42] <ikonia> or not ;)
[09:42] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: Just open a terminal and run lspci - then put the output in a !pastebin. I'll find out for you :)
[09:42] <grumpyrj> hp.. ricoh?
[09:43] <stroodlepup> http://pastebin.com/Vtu0jaJ8
[09:44] <stroodlepup> Ihavelund
[09:44] <stroodlepup> ok
[09:44] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: Looking at it.
[09:45] <grumpyrj> judging from that output it seems a safe bet it's an intel :-)
[09:45] <grumpyrj> you sure it's enabled in the bios?
[09:45] <lhavelund> stroodlepup: I'm thinking what grumpyrj is, too. I can't seem to spot it in that list.
[09:45] <lhavelund> grumpyrj: Thoughts welcome. :)
[09:46] <grumpyrj> I don't even see any card reader drivers for a 550 laptop on HP's site.
[09:47] <lhavelund> grumpyrj: I saw some thread on it not working on the Ubuntuforums a while ago, but since they're old versions of the buntus...
[09:48] <grumpyrj> unless it's just part of the intel storage matrix, but most of our HPs have a different driver for the card readers.
[09:49] <grumpyrj> could you give us a pastebin of dmesg?
[09:49] <MsUser> checking am i in ubuntu channel this time?
[09:50] <grumpyrj> MsUser: this is the XP support channel
[09:50] <MsUser> gah.. this is getting annoying
[09:50] <grumpyrj> I kid. you're in ubuntu
[09:50] <snapshots_> lol
[09:50] <MsUser> oh just stoped me from closing window
[09:51] <MsUser> so like alot of people are suggesting i go to ubuntu but i am having such horrible issues and time trying to get it right
[09:51] <snapshots_> grumpyr: can i pm you?
[09:51] <evol-gsc> pci=assign-busses?
[09:51] <RomeoAva> Ubuntu 12.10 is not opening. I need to tray 3-4 times until is opening in bed resolution. That is after an regular update.
[09:51] <snapshots_> grumpyrj: can i pm you?
[09:51] <lhavelund> snapshots_: Keep the support in-channel. :)
[09:51] <grumpyrj> MsUser: at the risk of starting a war, I would be a little wary of choosing ubuntu right now.
[09:52] <snapshots_> ok ok
[09:52] <BlueEagle> RomeoAva: In what manner is it "Not opening"? Does it appear to be stuck on the splash screen?
[09:52] <MsUser> any suggestion on a decent *nix type os?
[09:53] <MsUser> but i have a few thing i need it to support
[09:53] <rumpe1> MsUser, Ubuntu
[09:53] <somsip> MsUser: the official reply in the ubuntu support channel would be to use Ubuntu.
[09:53] <BlueEagle> !enter | MsUser
[09:53] <MsUser> then how can i get it to work properly
[09:53] <grumpyrj> agreed. you would expect a biased answer to that question here.
[09:53] <somsip> MsUser: which version are you using?
[09:55] <grumpyrj> MsUser: ideally you'd ask that question in a distro-agnostic channel such as ##linux.
[09:55] <grumpyrj> Mind you, they really hate that, but it'll be fun.
[09:55] <MsUser> i tried 10.04, and 11.10 however cannot get multiple montiors working i have 3, interface would be nice to change away from unity and once installed plymouth reverts to text only
[09:55] <grumpyrj> MsUser: multi-monitor support is somewhat driver specific unfortunately. what video card?
[09:57] <MsUser> saphire 100290sr radeon hd 5870
[09:57] <grumpyrj> ok, do you know which driver you're using? ati? radeon?
[09:58] <MsUser> unfortunatly as i am a "noob" not even sure where to look as i assume whatever is default drivers
[09:58] <grumpyrj> oh, fglrx maybe?
[09:58] <grumpyrj> If you install the ati binary blob it may work quite well.
[09:59] <MsUser> is there a site i can refrence on how to do this? seems not many places are teach yourself how to use
[10:00] <administrator__> exit
[10:01] <grumpyrj> so, in your package manager try fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle (I think). That will replace the current driver with ATI's one. Please someone correct me if I got that wrong.
[10:01] <michaelf1997> ciao
[10:01] <michaelf1997> !list
[10:01] <grumpyrj> amdcccle is the "control center" config tool.
[10:02] <DJones> .
[10:04] <agentsoul> I would like to shutdown a processe (xsane). Unfortunenately kill -9 and sudo kill -9 is not working. Suggestions? A restart is no option.
[10:05] <MsUser> i will definatly try. thank you
[10:05] <grumpyrj> braaaaiinnss
[10:06] <grumpyrj> agentsoul: http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_display_and_kill_zombie_processes
[10:07] <grumpyrj> probably ignore the bit about garlic
[10:07] <lancecoder> hello people. Here fast-cgi contains logs, where lighttpd turn off => nginx+fast-cgi
[10:08] <leo2007> will services started by /etc/init.d/ scripts automatically restart when crash?
[10:09] <lancecoder> no, i'm run this = service php-cgi restart (bash script get in internet)
[10:10] <leo2007> so you have to manually restart the daemon?
[10:10] <leo2007> sounds like a lot of trouble.
[10:10] <lancecoder> yes manually
[10:10] <lancecoder> leo2007: sorry for my broken english )
[10:11] <leo2007> no worreis.
[10:11] <grumpyrj> leo2007: what service is crashing?
[10:11] <leo2007> nothing in particular.
[10:11] <agentsoul> still can't kill xsane with kill -9  and "ps ef" sends no "parents"
[10:12] <leo2007> are all services in /etc/init.d started when the system booted?
[10:12] <lancecoder> leo2007: lighttpd are logged off when falling fast-cgi (t)google
[10:13] <lancecoder>  leo2007: yes, comp not switched
[10:13] <leo2007> ??
[10:13] <grumpyrj> leo2007: I think that means yes
[10:13] <lancecoder> leo2007: computer worked fulltime
[10:15] <lancecoder> fast-cgi write to log, where lighttpd stoped
[10:15] <grumpyrj> lancecoder: could you please re-word your question/statement?
[10:16] <leo2007> ok
[10:16] <lancecoder> fast-cgi have log, if lighttpd is stopped?
[10:17] <lancecoder> sorry :(
[10:18] <grumpyrj> lancecoder: If I understand correctly, no.
[10:19] <grumpyrj> lighthhtpd uses a fastcgi module. if lighthttpd is not running, then there will be no logging, except from previous times it was running.
[10:19] <lancecoder> grumpyrj: спасибо
[10:19] <lancecoder> grumpyrj: tnhx
[10:19] <grumpyrj> umm...ok.
[10:19] <grumpyrj> np
[10:23] <Eagleman> Any suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(
[10:23] <leo2007> I have postgre db installed. I do not want init.d to control its start/stop. how to disable it?
[10:24] <grumpyrj> man service
[10:24] <grumpyrj> well, if a file in init.d was not set executable it wouldn't run either, but you probably shouldn't do it that way.
[10:25] <leo2007> so what is the proper way?
[10:25] <leo2007> man service tells nothing
[10:26] <leo2007> On redhat systems there is some way to do it.
[10:27] <pbt> aaa/quit
[10:27] <pbt> oopps!
[10:27] <pbt> !code
[10:28] <grumpyrj> there is a gui to do it somewhere, or update-rc.d
[10:32] <somsip> leo2007: maybe this wil help http://superuser.com/questions/266040/how-do-you-disable-an-upstart-service-in-ubuntu-10-10
[10:34] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:36] <bmw> irc://irc.openjoke.org/0dayz
[10:36] <aahmedak> 	Hi guys, do you know if there is an rpm command to know which other packages are using the package XXXX. For example, when you remove a package with rpm, it tells you this information, but is there a way to know this information without removing the package?
[10:37] <bmw> irc://irc.darksin.net/cinemando
[10:38] <bmw> irc://irc.darksin.net/las_vegas
[10:38] <a_ok> In this day and age we like to send HTML mails. Thunderbird converts my bold and italic to *text* an */text/ respectively. What is wrong with it?
[10:39] <somsip> aahmedak: rpm is not native to ubuntu. Are you neeing help with another distro?
[10:41] <aahmedak> ups sorry somsip, i'll try to ask this question on another channel related with rpm based distros. Thanks
[10:41] <somsip> aahmedak: np
[10:42] <hipstar> im trying to get dual screen working on my macbook 8,2 but when i go to select rotation it only displays anticlockwise or clockwise
[10:42] <hipstar> 'normal' is missing
[10:42] <Eagleman> Any suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(
[10:43] <aeon-ltd> Eagleman: if any versions do support it then you can compile it and use it
[10:44] <grumpyrj> a_ok: maybe you're sending in plain text? that can be set on a per-contact basis or per message. The editor still shows it in bold, but presumably marks it as you describe when you send it.
[10:45] <a_ok> grumpyrj: yeah I just checked in my main addressbook all the addresses are set to plain and I cant change them
[10:45] <grumpyrj> oh, stink
[10:45] <zombiedeadshot> hello  i am wondering how to install themes on gdm i just installed gdm and when i open the gdmsetup i just get a small window that says play login sound show the screen for choosing who will log in login as _ automatically select gnome as default session unlock and close
[10:45] <grumpyrj> what abot overriding it while you're editing?
[10:45] <grumpyrj> *about
[10:45] <a_ok> It works fine in the editor
[10:46] <a_ok> just goes wrong on send
[10:46] <grumpyrj> I mean, going "options | format | html" while writing the message.
[10:46] <zombiedeadshot> i have 2.30.2 installed
[10:47] <zZommm> anyone using kvm here? I'm having trouble with throttling disk access by a VM... whatever I set with virsh blkdeviotune it blocks the guest totally.
[10:47] <zZommm> anyone using kvm here? I'm having trouble with throttling disk access by a VM... whatever I set with virsh blkdeviotune it blocks the guest totally.
[10:47] <zZommm> whoops
[10:47] <zZommm> sorry
[10:47] <FloodBot1> zZommm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <a_ok> grumpyrj: My best guess is that EDS screws things up
[10:48] <thejollygrimreap> Hello, all. How do you turn off the dash things on the left with Ubuntu 12.10?
[10:49] <DrGrov> Hi everyone
[10:49] <aeon-ltd> thejollygrimreap: the dock?
[10:49] <thejollygrimreap> Yes
[10:50] <DrGrov> How is it with modprobe and nVidia? Can I somehow probe out the correct values for my monitor and that way get the correct modline for xorg.conf?
[10:50] <grumpyrj> DrGrov: yes. cvt
[10:51] <andip> hey guys. you know of a guide for linux-users when they convert to ubuntu? where to find what's installed. a way to start what's installed and such? will any program i install end up on the launcher-thing on the right side of my screen?
[10:51] <aeon-ltd> thejollygrimreap: here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38009/how-do-i-remove-the-unity-launcher go down to warrioring64's solution
[10:51] <DrGrov> grumpyrj: It looks like I have direct rendering. The GPU is recognized and also my LG TV is recognized as a monitor. The only thing missing is the right resolution.
[10:51] <thejollygrimreap> Ok thanks
[10:52] <andip> DrGrov: make the drivers with gtk-support, and you'll get a nice gui-interface for setting all those things
[10:53] <DrGrov> andip: The problem is that it keeps hanging up a bit on my 12.04 install. I got the correct resolution in 12.04 and it displayed it right until I restarted. It could not write to /etc/X11/xorg.conf then. Should I just have made a empty xorg.conf there so it could write it there?
[10:54] <andip> DrGrov: i've no idea tbh. this is my very first hour on ubuntu, so i'm totally new to the ubuntu-way of doing things. i can't even find what's installed on my system ;)
[10:54] <a_ok> grumpyrj: It is already formatting as html all the settings are correct but the problem lies with EDS just confirmed in Evolution all the contacts have the checkbox wants to receive html mail grayed out. Evolution probably does not need it
[10:54] <andip> ...much less figure out what gfx-driver i'm using
[10:55] <phr3d13> having an issue: tried to install nvidia drivers from edgers ppa... added ppa, apt-get update, then app-get upgrade, it built a new kernel, but the new kernel fails to boot, how do i get rid of the failed one so i can try again or fix the failed one
[10:55] <DrGrov> andip: Ok :) I have been struggling with this direct rendring + correct display resolution for the past 15 hours almost non-stop without sleep.
[10:55] <andip> DrGrov: i'm used to a totally empty xorg.conf file though. everything is autodetected
[10:55] <almoxarife> andip: there is a simple method, you need to install 'synaptic' and get very used to it, it will answer all your questions
[10:56] <almoxarife> DrGrov: nvidia correct?
[10:56] <zombiedeadshot> can someone help me find a deb for the old gdm before the version 2.30 for ubuntu  Lucid Lynx
[10:57] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Yes, it is correctly showing up as GTS250.
[10:57] <aeon-ltd> zombiedeadshot: isn't that what google is for?
[10:57] <almoxarife> DrGrov: via the config gui, you cant change resolution?
[10:57] <zombiedeadshot> im googling
[10:58] <zombiedeadshot> i just asked if anyone could help me
[10:59] <almoxarife> zombiedeadshot:  you tried the archive repos i suppose?
[10:59] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Yes, it is stuck at 1360x769 when it should go to 1920x1080. I have tried also with the graphical nVidia X Settings tool but no luck. It looks like the mode is missing completely.
[10:59] <zombiedeadshot> how would i access them
[11:00] <DrGrov> So I wonder, I got it right in 12.04 but after a restart it disappeared and reverted back. Should I just fiddle about and get modlines for 1920x1080? Or could it be perhaps the HorizSync and VertRefresh that are off in xorg.conf?
[11:00] <zombiedeadshot> i found this page but i would rather have a deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/gdm-2.20/2.20.10-0ubuntu3
[11:00] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Or I should just build me a older version of the nVidia drivers?
[11:00] <almoxarife> DrGrov: how about via randr? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RandR
[11:01] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Okay, looking into it. I will download it.
[11:02] <almoxarife> DrGrov: i dont see why you need the old driver, unless exaustive googling kept pointing to 'it' as the solver
[11:03] <wdnz> Hi.
[11:03] <DrGrov> almoxarife: aRandR gives the same output as a maximum, 1360x768.
[11:03] <wdnz> What is the easiest way to configure a mailserver on ubuntu?
[11:03] <almoxarife> DrGrov: this is what i have used in the past, for doc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[11:04] <andip> anyone know of a guide for linux-users when they convert to ubuntu? will any program i install end up on the launcher-thing on the right side of my screen? is there any way i can get access to a shell/term? what's my root-password, if i need one (i never set one, nor was asked to do so)? what's standard filemanager for ubuntu, and where do i find it?
[11:04] <almoxarife> andip: there is a simple method, you need to install 'synaptic' and get very used to it, it will answer all your questions
[11:04] <andip> almoxarife: i changed my questions, you should change your answer ;)
[11:05] <isr45> how can i install tata photon in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:05] <almoxarife> andip: same answer applies, no root, use sudo/gksu
[11:05] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Thanks. I think I will just give it a go by building it myself. I will install the latest linux-source and linux-generic and then buld it by myself.
[11:05] <isr45> do i have to install any packages for that ?
[11:06] <almoxarife> isr45: is there a installable 'deb' avail?
[11:06] <andip> almoxarife: afaik, to use sudo, i need a shell. i've not figured out how to get to one yet
[11:06] <isr45> i don't know
[11:06] <isr45> how can i chk that ?
[11:07] <andip> isr45: use synaptic ;p
[11:07] <DrGrov> almoxarife: But I will go with that X config link you pasted first ;-)
[11:07] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I think it is just hanging about that. Nothing serious otherwise I hope. I can always build from scratch.
[11:08] <almoxarife> DrGrov: the second value seems low
[11:08] <DrGrov> almoxarife: But I wonder, there is again another update for linux-source and linux-generic. That is worrying. That means I gotta every time rebuild it over and over again.
[11:08] <almoxarife> DrGrov: the modules you mean?
[11:08] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Perhaps yes, it might just be that I gotta set the HorizSync and VertRefresh values higher but the problem is that I can not find them for my LG TV.
[11:08] <nickchr> Any suggestions on which distro to use for a system that only requires to run a Perl app on boot? Has to be as minimal as possible as it uses IDE Flash memory (DOM) and the board is the VIA EPIA ME6000G??
[11:09] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Yes, installing linux-source and linux-generic kernels means I gotta install the actual nvidia-current, either from nVidia themselves or from the repositories, again and again which strikes my nerve.
[11:10] <almoxarife> DrGrov: try the link i put up first
[11:10] <almoxarife> andip: what happens if you hit, alt-f1?
[11:11] <RomeoAva> an update at Unity or at Gnome will solve the problem?
[11:11] <andip> almoxarife: something called "dash home" is activated on my uppermost left corner
[11:11] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Yes, will do. The only problem I feel is that I will still update all those important security updates like kernel etc. and it will brake it again and again.
[11:12] <andip> almoxarife: if i press it some folder is opened. which i'm guessing is the default file-manager?
[11:12] <andip> no, a menu of kinds
[11:12] <almoxarife> andip: no idea,
[11:12] <andip> almoxarife: what did you expect to happen when i pressed alt+f1?
[11:13] <almoxarife> i expected runner to pop up, try alt-f2 andip...
[11:13] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Perhaps a PM is in order if you do not mind?
[11:13] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I can copy paste my current xorg.conf for you as a pastebin so you can see what is up.
[11:13] <almoxarife> DrGrov: i dont do pm, sorry
[11:13] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ok, good.
[11:14] <almoxarife> DrGrov: pastebin it
[11:15] <DrGrov> almoxarife: here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1422989/
[11:15] <andip> almoxarife: yeah. seems i can type in commands to run in that alt+f2 window
[11:15] <arun_> hi there
[11:15] <arun_> my laptop is not showing wireless connections
[11:15] <arun_> can anyone help me out
[11:15] <arun_> ?
[11:15] <antonius> ??
[11:15] <arun_> using ubuntu 12.04
[11:16] <arun_> I can connect through ethernet cable
[11:16] <almoxarife> DrGrov: yeap, looks pretty much like mine, did you try increasing resolution via the link/?
[11:16] <arun_> but wireless is not being detected
[11:16] <almoxarife> andip: good, now type 'terminal' in the box
[11:16] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Not yet. I am reading into it now.
[11:16] <arun_> please help me out troubleshooting wireless
[11:17] <almoxarife> arun_: expand on the issue
[11:18] <ptrv> hi, I am running Ubuntu 12.10 and sometimes the nm-applet doesnt show the signal strength. Connection still up but the nm-applet icon shows no signal. Anyone with the same issue?
[11:18] <arun_> Can anyone tell me how can i configure wireless on ubuntu 12.04
[11:18] <DrGrov> almoxarife: So I start with gtf first and then xrandr?
[11:18] <almoxarife> DrGrov: i think i used 'cvn'
[11:19] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ok
[11:19] <andip> almoxarife: the window vanishes, and nothing new pops up. never mind though.. all i really need is to see how steam works. anyone know if steam is easily installable?
[11:19] <almoxarife> andip: steam has its own channel, #ubuntu-steam
[11:20] <koleoptero> need some help with ndiswrapper here if there's anyone available
[11:20] <morfeo_81> hi
[11:20] <andip> almoxarife: thanks for your assistance :)
[11:20] <arun_> almoxarife : my laptop is not detecting wireless networks
[11:20] <arun_> any
[11:20] <almoxarife> arun_: using it right now?
[11:20] <arun_> yes
[11:21] <morfeo_81> How recover data from hard drive? I try foremost recover many files but not mine...why?
[11:21] <almoxarife> arun_: pastebin /var/log/syslog after trying to cycle thru wifi, yes, you may/will disconnect, return with the pastebin
[11:22] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Here I got it with cvt
[11:23] <morfeo_81> Please, How recover data from hard drive? I try foremost recover many files but not mine...why?
[11:24] <almoxarife> morfeo_81: I try foremost recover many files but not mine...why? <-- that is confusing
[11:24] <oodles_arun> hi almoxarife
[11:24] <oodles_arun> arun here
[11:24] <almoxarife> :)
[11:24] <oodles_arun> yes please tell
[11:25] <almoxarife> tell?
[11:25] <oodles_arun> wireless issue
[11:25] <almoxarife> arun_: pastebin /var/log/syslog after trying to cycle thru wifi, yes, you may/will disconnect, return with the pastebin
[11:25] <oodles_arun> laptop not detecting wireless networks
[11:25] <oodles_arun> ok
 I use foremost software and  from 1 tera recover 15 giga but the files are copy of the same images of drivers of the hard drive. I don't found any image I put in that hard drive and any document
[11:26] <almoxarife> !pastebin
[11:26] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I tried adding it with xrandr but nothing happened. I probably forgot to add the --addmode line and path to where.
[11:26] <almoxarife> morfeo_81: cant help you, try ##linux
[11:27] <almoxarife> DrGrov: there is a sequence that must be followed
[11:27] <oodles_arun> i did not understand cycle thru wifi
[11:27] <morfeo_81> thanks however !
[11:27] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Okay so just doing like this is nothing: xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[11:28] <koleoptero> need some help with ndiswrapper here if there's anyone available :(
[11:28] <almoxarife> oodles_arun: try using wifi first, that will collect data to /var/log/syslog, then pastebin as per above
[11:28] <morfeo_81> HI!
[11:29] <almoxarife> DrGrov: addmode? , i am not looking at the doc
[11:29] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ok, it said on the wiki link that it should work like that.
[11:29] <oodles_arun> almoxarife: pastebin.com/ajbCX8Kd
[11:29] <aeon-ltd> koleoptero: describe it the best you can, the channel will do their best
[11:30] <koleoptero> aeon-ltd, one minute, I found something with google after all, if it doesn't work I'll come again
[11:30] <koleoptero> stupid thing been torturing me for a whole day now
[11:30] <koleoptero> lol
[11:31] <almoxarife> oodles_arun: nothing there, wifi related
[11:31] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I will just put in xorg.conf as it is said. Hopefully works. If not, I try again.
[11:31] <myhero> almoxarife: what is the irc logs link ?
[11:32] <shahid_> how good is usb3 support in 64bit desktop?
[11:32] <almoxarife> myhero: no idea
[11:33] <myhero> almoxarife: how to get list for all the channels ?
[11:34] <almoxarife> myhero: no idea
[11:34] <myhero> on the current server ?
[11:34] <almoxarife> myhero: no idea
[11:34] <myhero> any android and firefox channels ?
[11:35] <myhero> almoxarife: ?? ^^
[11:36] <Steph_De_Chine> myhero: Firefox channel is #firefox. Get Firefox from http://www.firefox.com/ | Go to irc.mozilla.org for #thunderbird and #seamonkey | http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-and-diagnose-firefox-problems
[11:36] <almoxarife> oodles_arun: Dec 10 16:56:22 arun-Vostro-1550 dnsmasq[32659]: warning: no upstream servers configured <-- issue?
[11:36] <Steph_De_Chine> myhero: And #android is for Android too.
[11:37] <myhero> Steph_De_Chine: thnx, any android channel ? and how to see irc logs ?
[11:37] <myhero> Steph_De_Chine: thnx and for logs ?
[11:37] <Steph_De_Chine> myhero: What logs?
[11:38] <myhero> Steph_De_Chine: like current chat logs in this channel ? i want some older logs!
[11:38] <almoxarife> myhero: pls stay on topic, logs are not
[11:39] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I added it like it said on the wiki. I am about to reboot to see what happens, I hope it will work.
[11:39] <almoxarife> DrGrov: good luck
[11:39] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Thanks :)
[11:39] <myhero> almoxarife: i want some older logs for this channel only....for some other troubleshooting suggestions
[11:39] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Hopefully I will be back soon... Real soon....
[11:39]  * DrGrov says his famous last words
[11:40] <DJones> !logs | myhero Is this what you're looking for,
[11:40] <micjan02> how do i do "git show" in svn?
[11:40] <myhero> DJones: thnx...maybe it will help thnx again
[11:41] <almoxarife> !git
[11:44] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Absolutely nothing happened. Still stuck at 1360x768.
[11:45] <almoxarife> DrGrov: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and syslog
[11:45] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Okay, will do.
[11:45] <wave49> how can i connect tata photon in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:45] <ikonia> tata python ?
[11:46] <ikonia> how is that different from normal python ?
[11:46] <almoxarife> wave49: is that a fone?
[11:46] <wave49> no data card
[11:46] <ikonia> ooh photon
[11:46] <wave49> tata photon+
[11:47] <parapan> Hi there ..cannot login to ubuntu after installing artistx; error:Gnome power manager was not installed correctly; df -h shows /dev/sda6 as 100% used; I've booted with LiveDVD, root user and deleted approx 30 GB but df -h shows the same result ...can someone support pls ???
[11:47] <almoxarife> wave49: how does it connect to the machine?
[11:47] <ikonia> parapan: what's on /dev/sda6 ?
[11:47] <ilja> how do I run a .run file?
[11:47] <ikonia> parapan: is your home dir on /dev/sda6
[11:47] <ikonia> ilja: nvidia drivers by any chance ?
[11:47] <myhero> DJones: thnx for logs link....i got what i wanted but to bring to your notice, the second link - http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode is not opening
[11:47] <wave49> i just plug in and then it shows connected to CDMA network
[11:48] <ilja> ikonia: no, mplabx
[11:48] <parapan> ikonia: yes / ubuntu partition, with home folder
[11:48] <wave49> but it doesnt cnnect to internet
[11:48] <ikonia> parapan: so that's why you can't login
[11:48] <DrGrov> almoxarife: This is what I got, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423036/
[11:48] <ikonia> parapan: the question is what's filling it up
[11:48] <ikonia> ilja: mplabx...no idea what that is, but normally just make it executable and run it
[11:48] <ilja> If a program works on Ubuntu under VMware, is it guaranteed to work under a real install?
[11:48] <ilja> ikonia: how do i make it exe?
[11:48] <ikonia> chmod it
[11:49] <ikonia> ilja: it "should work" if it works in vmware
[11:49] <wave49> do i have to install any package to use tata photon+ in ubuntu 12.04?
[11:49] <ikonia> wave49: you need to work out what chipset is in the dongle
[11:49] <ikonia> wave49: then find out if linux supports it
[11:49] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Pretty sure it is about the HorizSync and VertRefresh values. They are way too low.
[11:49] <IdleOne> wave49: do you have usb-modeswitch installed?
[11:50] <parapan> ikonia: I've installed artistX alongside with Ubuntu . . I guess I took all available space from ubuntu's / for the new OS . . .but again, I've already deleted a .vdi file of 30 GB and the df -h is giving me the same resuls sda6 100% used ...
[11:50] <Yeasi> hi guys , i have issu with ssh , when i'm tryin to connect somewhere i'm getting  "modulus too small: 512 < minimum 768 bits"
[11:50] <Yeasi> i have changed sshd_config ServerKeyBits to 512 but.....
[11:50] <ikonia> parapan: artistx ? is that an OS ?
[11:50] <ilja> what should i chmod with?
[11:50] <ikonia> ilja: man chmod
[11:51] <wave49> ikonia: how can i figure out that ? pls help. i am a novice
[11:51] <parapan> ikonia: yes ...a linux distro dedicated to multimedia ; based on ubuntu 12 I think ...
[11:51] <wave49> idleone: yes i have usb-modeswitch installed
[11:51] <myhero> wave49: assuming u have usb photon+ , most of these dont have linux drivers with them and dont support linux but if they do are linux compatible and have drivers then u dont have to do anything....just plug it in and it will automatically install relevant linux drivers and start working
[11:51] <ikonia> parapan: so you can't install that on the same partition as ubuntu
[11:51] <ikonia> parapan: so I don' know what you've done
[11:51] <Yeasi> anybody helps me? :-)
[11:52] <IdleOne> wave49: see http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.ca/2011/12/how-to-use-or-connect-tata-photon-plus-in-ubuntu.html
[11:52] <ikonia> Yeasi: what version of ubuntu ?
[11:52] <Yeasi> ikonia: i'm using debian squeeze
[11:52] <ikonia> Yeasi: then ask in #debian
[11:52] <Yeasi> ikonia: same issue on debian 10.04
[11:52] <ikonia> Yeasi: then ask in #debian
[11:52] <Yeasi> ikonia: sorry , not debian ubuntu 10.04 :-)
[11:52] <ikonia> Yeasi: you're using debian - ask in #debian
[11:53] <parapan> ikonia: let's start small .....I have booted with Live DVD and I've deleted a file of 30 Gb; why the system doesn't see this space ?
[11:53] <almoxarife> DrGrov: did you take any shortcuts?
[11:53] <ikonia> parapan: please showme the output of "df -h" from the livecd
[11:54] <ikonia> "show me"
[11:54] <DrGrov> almoxarife: No, I did not if I understand it right. I added the modeline fully, could it be case sensitive the hsync and vsync names? I put a big letter.
[11:55] <almoxarife> DrGrov: did you see the error in xorg.log?
[11:55] <wave49> IdleOne: i have already did that. and it showed that you are connected to a CDMA network but after a second it shows that you are offline or disconnected
[11:55] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Yes, it discarded it completely. That the TV was not "compatible".
[11:55] <myhero> wave49: also check photon+ box, it must be written on it if it supports linux or not.....btw whats your model of photon+ ?
[11:56] <wave49> myhero: it supoorts windows , mac os and linux
[11:56] <myhero> wave49: what your make and model no. of dongle ?
[11:56] <wave49> and the steps that they have mentioned to configure tata photon+ in ubuntu aren't useful for me
[11:57] <wave49> myhero: tata photon plus EC516
[11:57] <myhero> wave49: which co. ?
[11:57] <wave49> myhero: tata photon plus EC156
[11:58] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Here I found the first real clue in a thread. http://www.avforums.com/forums/9621206-post54.html
[11:58] <wave49> HUAWEI
[11:58] <wave49> myhero: ??
[11:59] <myhero> wave49: yes 1minute
[11:59] <IdleOne> wave49:  I'm am not finding anything useful from google, sorry.
[11:59] <wave49> IdleOne: it's okay...n  thanx
[12:00] <myhero> wave49: is this the same model U r asking for ? this is the manual i am getting for this model no.
[12:00] <wave49> myhero: i have the manual, but it isn't useful for me
[12:01] <almoxarife> what is a tata?
[12:02] <parapan> ikonia: you mean all lines ?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> almoxarife  just looked it up, it's phone model
[12:02] <ikonia> parapan: I mean the output of that command
[12:02] <myhero> almoxarife: U r 'babu', u should this! btw its company in india which provides net services
[12:02] <almoxarife> DrGrov: i dont think you followed the directions, start from scratch
[12:02] <myhero> know*
[12:03] <IdleOne> myhero: Mind not insulting people with silly comments based on stereotypes
[12:03] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ok, I did follow them. But sure. I do them again.
[12:03] <wave49> myhero: because it says, that "once after inserting the modem double click and open the folder /media/Photon Plus"  but after inserting the modem i didnt get any such folder
[12:03] <IdleOne> myhero: As a matter of fact your comment is racist and I have a good mind to ban you.
[12:03] <myhero> IdleOne: i know...better tell that to your collegues also :)
[12:03] <almoxarife> DrGrov: you dont have much choice, be carefull with the caps, dont use them unless specified
[12:04] <IdleOne> myhero: my colleague?
[12:04] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ok, I jump in and take away the first capital letter of HorizSync and VertRefresh.
[12:04] <parapan> ikonia: output has several lines ....showing the partitions that are mounted .....the df -h from the broken distro shows /dev/sda6 100% full ......the df -h from the live DVD shows few percents on each line ....only if I mount the / partitions it shows sda6 as 100% used ....
[12:05] <wave49> IdleOne : can you tell me that why can't i get /media/Photon Plus folder after inserting my modem because the manual says that i should get it
[12:05] <myhero> IdleOne: if u'll search old logs..u'll find that the comment was once made to me by other user, i'll assume u were racist that time and ignored it and whatever plz go ahead
[12:05] <ikonia> parapan: can you please show me the output from the live CD as I requested
[12:06] <IdleOne> wave49: I don't know sorry.
[12:06] <wave49> myhero: can you help me now ?
[12:06] <wave49> IdleOne: it's okay
[12:06] <parapan> ikonia: I'll have to type everyting cause it's on the other PC .....should I do it on screen here or on pastebin ?
[12:06] <wave49> myhero: can u tell me why can't i get that folder ?
[12:07] <ikonia> parapan: does your other machine have access to the internet ?
[12:07] <ikonia> parapan: (the problem machine with the livecd)
[12:08] <parapan> ikonia: I can configure ...start with live DVD, set up the network connection and then access internet ....
[12:08] <ikonia> parapan: ok, then you can cut and paste into a pastebin and just give me the URL or use pastebinit and give me the URL
[12:10] <KETAN> hi
[12:10] <KETAN> i am new and need help
[12:11] <fidel_> KETAN: start with a problem describtion
[12:11] <DJones>  KETAN Welcome to the channel, just ask your question on one line and if somebody is able to help, I'm sure they'll start responding
[12:11] <KETAN> want to start using Ubuntu but have still not , can I install it on windows
[12:12] <KETAN> and have something like a dual OS ?
[12:12] <Brent> I have just installed windows 7. I meant to leave some space for ubuntu but forgot. Will ubuntu be able to resize my ntfs partition sot hat I can dual boot, or will I need to start from scratch?
[12:13] <ikonia> Brent: I suggest you resize it from a livecd before trying to install ubuntu
[12:13] <ikonia> Brent: then make sure you run chkdisk from windows after the re-size
[12:13] <fidel_> KETAN: you can either install it (ubuntu) on a free partition and then have a dual-boot machine - or install it inside a virtual machine inside windows - or just use a live-cd of ubuntu to take a first look
[12:13] <xbox> ubuntu on 360
[12:13] <almoxarife> KETAN: you can install ubuntu via wubi.exe , that would run using win/ntfs(the windows drive)
[12:14] <KETAN> what is Live cd ?
[12:14] <ikonia> !install | KETAN
[12:14] <ikonia> KETAN: please read the link for how to use/install ubuntu
[12:14] <ikonia> KETAN: please also read https://help.ubuntu.com to get an idea of how to actually use ubuntu
[12:14] <KETAN> ok
[12:15] <xbox> what application for make a screenshot on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[12:15] <DJones> xbox: As far as I'm aware, you can't install ubuntu on an xbox 360
[12:15] <xbox> unbuntu is on my 360 actualy
[12:15] <almoxarife> xbox: if all else fails, vlc!
[12:16] <ikonia> xbox: scrot
[12:16] <xbox> scrot ?
[12:16] <xbox> i dont speak english
[12:16] <ikonia> xbox: that is the application name
[12:17] <xbox> i understand very little
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> KETAN  xbox what is your language?
[12:17] <almoxarife> xbox: xbox is windows aint it?
[12:17] <xbox> scrot is a application for a screenshot ,?
[12:17] <Germanaz0> hello everybody, I found a bug on ubuntu appstore xD
[12:17] <Germanaz0> http://ubuntuone.com/009LnJDqPbiG50047Lylep
[12:17] <xbox> french
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> xbox what is your language?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[12:17] <ikonia> xbox: correct
[12:17] <parapan2> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/kDYXsWkf - first output only the LiveDVD ...second output ....with 167GB partition(ubuntu) mounted and 24 Gb partition (artistx) mounted
[12:17] <xbox> thank you
[12:17] <KETAN> English
[12:18] <ikonia> parapan2: ok, how are you deleting the files ?
[12:19] <almoxarife> Germanaz0: gratuito does not work?
[12:19] <Germanaz0> gratuito = free
[12:19] <IdleOne> Germanaz0: if you click on Comprar what happens?
[12:19] <Germanaz0> buy now = paid
[12:19] <almoxarife> Germanaz0: yes i know
[12:19] <Germanaz0> Comprar is paid
[12:19] <almoxarife> Germanaz0: or 'buy'
[12:19] <Germanaz0> so, how a software is free and could be bought
[12:19] <IdleOne> Germanaz0: I know what the word means. What happens if you click on it?
[12:19] <Germanaz0> true
[12:20] <parapan2> ikonia: from terminal > sudo nautilus > browse /home folder > delete .....
[12:20] <Germanaz0> it send me to a page to pay
[12:20] <Germanaz0> have to fill credit card, etc
[12:20] <ikonia> parapan2: if you go into /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679 are the files still there ?
[12:20] <parapan2> ikonia: but for sure it's not the proper way since the space is not freed ....
[12:20] <Germanaz0> with price 0
[12:20] <parapan2> ikonia: nope ..they are not showed anymore ...
[12:20] <almoxarife> Germanaz0: sounds like a deal, jump on it
[12:21] <IdleOne> Germanaz0: ok, that appears to be a bug. open a terminal and do ubuntu-bug software-center
[12:21] <ikonia> ahhh sudo nautilus
[12:21] <ikonia> parapan2: go into /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679/root
[12:21] <Germanaz0> ok IdleOne now I'm not in that pc, tonight will do that command
[12:21] <ikonia> parapan2: look for a .trash or .recycle or something in that directory (use ls -la in that directory to see)
[12:22] <IdleOne> Germanaz0: that will gather some info and then open a browser where you can add the screenshot and details.
[12:22] <x_> Sup party people
[12:22] <jndcjdc> IdleOne: just wanna tell, U r Idiot and Ur act is cowardly rather height of stupidity
[12:23] <x_> IdleOne, lol :-)
[12:23] <Germanaz0> IdleOne, try to find, nitro, on appstore, do you have the same bug ?
[12:23] <IdleOne> Germanaz0: I don't have the software-center
[12:23] <Germanaz0> ah ok
[12:23] <DJones> Germanaz0: I've just tried, it does the same thing for me on 12.04
[12:24] <Germanaz0> DJones, really, a weird bug, I will write to nitro guys
[12:24] <Germanaz0> maybe is a problem of them, setting up the repo
[12:24] <parapan2> ikonia: let me understand ...go into root folder of original Ubuntu install ??
[12:24] <ikonia> parapan2: yes in /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679/root on the livecd
[12:25] <DJones> Germanaz0: Its probably worthwhile reporting it as a bug though as IdleOne suggested
[12:25] <Germanaz0> ok
[12:25] <x_> Guys I have a debian/ubuntu question. Debian is still on kernel 2.6 with Squeeze, Ubuntu is on 3.5 where can i see a list of kernel changes between 2.6 and 3.5?
[12:26] <IdleOne> kernel.org
[12:26] <rushiagr> x_: what exactly you want to see in changes?
[12:26] <parapan2> ikonia: i need sudo to access /root ...what's the password of the live dvd root user ???
[12:28] <ikonia> parapan2: there isn't one
[12:28] <x_> rushiagr, I have been thinking about switching to debian because I don't like the way ubuntu is going w/ unity and the shopping stuff being embedded and basically some stuff that I just don't agree with /end rant. The only thing that concerns be about debian is it does not get kernel updates so it is still on 2.6 I don't want to take a step back if I'm gonna lose anything major.....
[12:28] <parapan2> ikonia: I gave enter but it doesn't work ...
[12:28] <ikonia> what command are you using exactly
[12:29] <parapan2> ikonia: cd /media/eBRBBRBRBRBBR (ubuntuinstallationHDD)/root .........cd: root: Permission denied
[12:29] <ikonia> parapan2: sudo -i
[12:30] <ikonia> parapan2: you should get a root shell
[12:30] <parapan2> good
[12:30] <parapan2> That's the point
[12:30] <ikonia> parapan2: then cd /media/$$$$$/root
[12:30] <parapan2> ikonia: OK, I have only one folder : Desktop
[12:31] <ikonia> parapan2: please type "du - h" in the root folder (not Desktop)
[12:32] <parapan2> ikonia: a lot of files .....
[12:32] <ikonia> look at the last number
[12:32] <ikonia> it should say $X GB
[12:32] <ikonia> or $X MB
[12:32] <parapan2> 872 K
[12:32] <ikonia> ok, lets try again
[12:32] <ikonia> parapan2: lets do "cd .." then do "du -h" again looking at the last number
[12:33] <x_> Ok that kernel.org website has changelogs but it is all very cryptic as I am not a programmer. Can any one tell me in human readable terms a big difference between 2.6 > 3.5 kernels? Like does anything work on 3.5 that won't work on 2.6 ?
[12:33] <ikonia> x_: it has some additional device drivers yes
[12:33] <x_> ikonia, such as?
[12:33] <ikonia> x_: however if you don't know what it does why do you want it
[12:34] <ikonia> just use what your distro provides
[12:34] <x_> ikonia,did you see my above post to rushiagr?
[12:34] <ikonia> x_: the change logs are written in English, you're capable of reading what's been added
[12:34] <x_> ikonia, reading yes, it does not mean I understand what it says
[12:34] <ikonia> x_: if you don't understand it, then you don't need it
[12:34] <ikonia> x_: just use what the distro provides
[12:35] <x_> ikonia, alright, last question then is it a big performance decrease from 3.5 to 2.6 ?
[12:35] <ikonia> no
[12:35] <x_> alright thanks for the info.
[12:35] <parapan2> ikonia: it's the same ...872 K ...but I guess is calculating the files of the LiveCD not of the broken install ....
[12:36] <ikonia> parapan2: what command exactly are you typing
[12:37] <parapan2> ikonia: open terminal / sudo -i / root bash on live DVD / cd /media/e2442xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/root   /   du -h
[12:37] <ikonia> parapan2: apologies, "du -h ."
[12:37] <ikonia> parapan2: then do "cd .." and redo "du -h ."
[12:38] <ikonia> actually, you don't need the .
[12:38] <ikonia> please do cd .. then re-do du -h
[12:38] <parapan2> ikonia: sorry exactly the same .....872 K
[12:38] <ikonia> please show me the output of "pwd"
[12:39] <parapan2> ikonia: /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679/root
[12:39] <ikonia> parapan2: I told you to do cd ..
[12:39] <ikonia> did  you do that ?
[12:40] <parapan2> ikonia: to run dh command at bash ? outside root folder ?
[12:41] <ikonia> yes
[12:41] <IdleOne> parapan2: the full command is ( cd .. )
[12:41] <ikonia> so "cd .." then "du -h"
[12:41] <ilja> if i installed a program, where do i start it from?
[12:41] <ikonia> ilja: depends how/what you installed
[12:42] <Pici> ilja: "usually" things get added to specific directories that are in your $PATH so that you can run them from anywhere.
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> ilja  take a look in /usr/bin
[12:43] <gyre007> anyone knows how to delete a file whos name is: ???%5?w3?????c8???r?????Q??fYKqT????r????{??(d????Ӥ??D???????:`b????,M?+m???9?v??7?|ak????????唜p
[12:43] <ilja> mplabx with a .run file
[12:43] <gyre007> wth :)
[12:43] <gyre007> i've no clue...tried all sorts of things
[12:43] <ikonia> ilja: it normally self decompresses to the current working directory
[12:43] <parapan2> ikonia: I run the "du -h ." on root# - now it's counting like tousands files . . . .
[12:43] <ikonia> ilja: however you should see that when you run it
[12:43] <x_> gyre007, rm ???<tab key>
[12:43] <ikonia> parapan2: one level up from the root dir
[12:43] <ikonia> parapan2: no, not in the root dir
[12:44] <ikonia> parapan2: in /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679
[12:44] <ikonia> parapan2: it will do thousands of files, but then give you a summary at the end
[12:44] <jrib> gyre007: you sure that's not a sign of some sort of filesystem corruption?
[12:44] <parapan2> ikonia: one level up ...means in media/xxxxxxxx Ok, got that now ....how do I stop the previous command ???
[12:44] <Pici> gyre007: if you can get 'find' to well, find it, you can use -delete
[12:44] <ikonia> just let it finish
[12:45] <ikonia> that's why I kept saying "cd .." which puts you into /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679
[12:46] <parapan2> ikonia: didn't got-it right ......that's why I was counting files from the root folder only ....and after that I tought i have to cd .. until the filesystem ...
[12:46] <ikonia> parapan2: just cd /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679 then "du -h"
[12:47] <kilon> anyone knows how to add a software to ubuntu software center, its open source , its a well known programming language and IDE , its MIT licensed and can be found here http://www.pharo-project.org/home
[12:47] <parapan2> ikonia: done that ...just waiting for the result
[12:47] <Pici> !newpackage | kilon
[12:48] <gyre007> I did rm *w3c* and that did the trick...
[12:48] <gyre007> x__: autocomplete didnt work as you were suggersting
[12:48] <kilon> ubottu: thank you very much
[12:48] <kilon> haha
[12:48] <Pici> kilon: you're welcome :)
[12:48] <kilon> thanks you Pici
[12:48] <parapan2> ikonia: 161G
[12:48] <ikonia> parapan2: ok, so the files are still there
[12:48] <ikonia> parapan2: do you know the name of one of the files ?
[12:49] <parapan2> artist or artistx.vdi
[12:49] <ikonia> ok, so cd /media/e4530b7a-50c0-4459-bd66-620d4b26b679
[12:49] <parapan2> search ?
[12:49] <ikonia> then "find . -name artistx.vdi -print"
[12:50] <parapan2> ikonia: ./.Trash-0/files/artist/artist.vdi
[12:50] <t432> How do it fix this?  message: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[12:50] <ikonia> ok, so it's in the .Trash-0 dir
[12:51] <ikonia> parapan2: rm -rf .Trash-0/*
[12:51] <kilon> oh boy thats tons of work :D
[12:51] <DJones> !fixdpkg | t432
[12:51] <parapan2> ikonia: let me check if I can find this with nautilus also .....
[12:51] <ikonia> parapan2: no
[12:51] <ikonia> parapan2: just type the command I have told you
[12:52] <parapan2> ikonia: Ok ...just wanted to learn some more ...:D
[12:52] <ikonia> parapan2: nautlius will not teach you anything
[12:52] <ikonia> its just browsing a directory
[12:52] <ikonia> so just run the command I've given you
[12:52] <t432> i'DJones: Thats not it. Got the message when trying to install tomcat6 package,
[12:53] <parapan2> ikonia: for sure but you gave me the remove command so I was wondering why I was not able to find the ./Trash-0 folder ????
[12:53] <ikonia> because it's a "." directory
[12:53] <yu> ll -a
[12:53] <ikonia> pay attention to what's been given
[12:53] <ikonia> .Trash-0
[12:53] <ikonia> not Trash-0
[12:55] <parapan2> ikonia: the cursor is blinking and the HDD is accessed .....
[12:55] <xsl> hello guys... i'm doing apt-get -s --no-install-recommends install lxc debootstrap libcap2-bin libpam-cap ( so i dont install cloud-utils - its like 10 more packages of "junk" )
[12:55] <xsl> will this limit any feature not related to cloud images for lxc?
[12:56] <parapan2> ikonia: gone ....now the df -h output says 22 Gb free ...should I try to reboot ???
[12:56] <ikonia> parapan2: that should be enough to let you boot and sort the rest of your issues out
[12:57] <parapan2> ikonia: try to boot and be right back from the other PC ......
[12:59] <thejollygrimreap> #reprap
[12:59] <aeon-ltd> thejollygrimreap: did the dock thing work?
[13:00] <thejollygrimreap> i followed the instructions on it and the software centre didn't work for installing gnome shell so i did it in the terminal and it worked perfectly
[13:04] <b7r3b3L> hey people can anyone help me.. i'm new here
[13:07] <armers> help leave
[13:07] <Pici> !ask
[13:07] <yu> can any body tell me the difference between terminal and console
[13:08] <aeon-ltd> yu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_console first line
[13:09] <yu> thx
[13:09] <parapan> ikonia: thak you so much bro'; it seems to work fine now; I was thinking in the same direction for solving my problem but I was few "commands" short ...thank you once again, I'll copy the commands for later use ..
[13:09] <ikonia> parapan: you're welcome
[13:14] <yu> someone told me that 'you`re welcome' is too official in English ,is that true?
[13:15] <ikonia> yu: no
[13:16] <yu> i see
[13:20] <Kartagis> 11.10 had a native typing break reminder. does anyone remember its name?
[13:20] <Kartagis> it also could locked the screen
[13:20] <JohnWHSmith> Hello
[13:21] <llutz> Kartagis: "wife" scnr
[13:21] <Kartagis> lol
[13:22] <Kartagis> llutz: er... that was a joke, right?
[13:23] <Pici> Kartagis: the only one that comes to mind is workrave, but I've never used it.
[13:24] <oskar-> Kartagis:  there still seem to exist some gconf settings in /desktop/gnome/typing_break (see e.g. in gconf-editor). i don't know, if they still have any effect...
[13:25] <Slart> Kartagis: there used to be some settings for this somewhere in the keyboard settings.. not sure if that was a separate application or something built-in though
[13:26] <Kartagis> Slart: do you know of a similar application?
[13:27] <oskar-> Kartagis:  http://ubuntuguide.net/get-back-typing-break-in-ubuntu-12-04-11-10
[13:27] <Slart> Kartagis: I've seen some threads recommending something called xwrit, haven't tried it myself though
[13:27] <Slart> Kartagis: sorry, xwrits
[13:30] <ilja> is the 694MB iso all i need to boot from usb and install?
[13:30] <Slart> Kartagis: this page, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/182597 , claims that typing_break has been deprecated in gnome 3.. perhaps that's why it's also missing in ubuntu
[13:31] <Kartagis> probably
[13:31] <Kartagis> thanks oskar- and Slart
[13:31] <Slart> Kartagis: this looks promising http://ubuntuguide.net/get-back-typing-break-in-ubuntu-12-04-11-10
[13:31] <DJones> !install | ilja
[13:33] <DJones> ilja: All you should need is the desktop .iso, then burn it to a cd or usb stick following the instructions in ubottu's links and then boot from the cd/usb stick
[13:34] <ilja> DJones: can i just copy the iso to the usb?
[13:34] <ilja> why is the 32bit version recommended? i have a 64bit platform
[13:35] <lucido> how do I get my samsung scx-4521f to scan?
[13:35] <eskimio> 2 Questions:
[13:35] <eskimio> 1. Why is it that Pidgin isn't showing up in my dock/application toolbar even though I have it open?
[13:35] <eskimio> 2. Does anyone have any recommendations on someplace to go/something to read/etc. in regards to being a new ubuntu/linux user? I just installed Ubuntu last night and I'd like to bring myself up to speed on all the capabilities of the system and also download/acquire useful applications and such.
[13:35] <FloodBot1> eskimio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:35] <DJones> ilja: The 32 bit is recommended because its more compatible with different hardware, but in most cases 64 bit is fine
[13:35] <Slart> ilja: there are some software, mostly proprietary older stuff, that is only available in 32bit.. but you'll be fine with 64-bit
[13:36] <DJones> ilja: You need to burn it to cd/usb using the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[13:36] <Slart> ilja: in my case I'm having problems with some banking stuff that is only available for 32bit
[13:36] <DJones> ilja: Or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick if you're going to install from a usb stick
[13:38] <iceroot> Slart: but normally the 32bit versions are running on amd64
[13:39] <iceroot> Slart: amd64 is not running on 32bit, but the other way is fine
[13:39] <gyre007> im having a hard time decrypting some archive...ive no idea why :) https://gist.github.com/4250559
[13:39] <guang_> which tool can be used to analyze fat file system??
[13:39] <ikonia> analyze ?
[13:40] <gyre007> the data have been encrypted using this gem https://github.com/meskyanichi/backup/wiki/Encryptors
[13:40] <Slart> iceroot: yes, but in this case the bank wants me to download a 32bit firefox addon for 32bit firefox.. and then the addon needs other 32bit libraries.. and comes with its own inhouse-"as stupid as we are"-installer that doesn't just let me just put the files in the right place
[13:40] <iceroot> Slart: ah ok, that doesnt sound nice
[13:41] <ilja> I want to boot from USB
[13:41] <ilja> not DVD
[13:41] <ikonia> what's stopping you ?
[13:41] <Slart> iceroot: well.. no.. but it gives me my yearly dosage of tech-rage.. usually keeps me going for at least another year =)
[13:41] <ilja> still need to burn? i have installed backratck linux with jsut an ISO
[13:41] <mustafa_> hi
[13:42] <ikonia> ilja: you can use the same process as you used with backtrack on ubuntu
[13:42] <blami> ilja: no just dd iso image to usb drive
[13:42] <blami> ilja: it should boot then ...
[13:42] <mustafa_> could any onehelp me
[13:42] <iceroot> Slart: but if i am correct firefix is only available in 32bit?
[13:42] <mustafa_> new user for ubuntu
[13:42] <blami> mustafa_: if you tell us your issue :)
[13:42] <iceroot> Slart: there was something like "we are using the binaries from mozilla directly and there are only 32bit"
[13:43] <mustafa_> i want to install a lamp server and configure it
[13:43] <blami> iceroot: huh?
[13:43] <mustafa_> but dont know
[13:43] <blami> iceroot: i have 64bit firefox
[13:43] <blami> mustafa_: there are plenty howtos around internet ... you should read carefully. Why are you doing so? for development?
[13:43] <Slart> iceroot: that might be so.. but the addons and plugins are 64 bit, I think.. it has almost been a year since I messed with this the last time
[13:45] <iceroot> hm ok file /usr/lib/firefox/firefox is showing 64bit, i am sure on older releases firefox was 32bit only because mozilla was not providing 64bit binaries
[13:45] <mustafa_> sorry  have a problem with php config and link my php navigator with mysql
[13:45] <blami> iceroot: eh, ubuntu really doesn't relly on what mozilla provides
[13:45] <iceroot> blami: you are not allowed to change firefox because of that debian is not using firefox
[13:45] <ilja> blami: dd?
[13:45] <iceroot> blami: and because of "you are not allowed" you have to use the binaries
[13:46] <ilja> for USB i dont need to burn? just copy iso to USB?
[13:46] <Pici> ilja: no.
[13:46] <iceroot> blami: you are not allowed to change firefox when you still want to call it firefox
[13:46] <ilja> Pici: no as in dont need to burn?
[13:46] <Rexter> Hi, I'm using 12.04 in classic mode with docky. Sometimes docky crashes, or simply go away during system updates. I'm looking for a way to have docky auto restart if the system finds that it's not running. What I want is similar to how OSX restarts the dock whenever needed, and Windows does the same with Explorer.
[13:47] <Pici> ilja: you can't just "copy the iso" to the USB and expect it to work. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:47] <blami> iceroot: i don't think so. Debian does not ship firefox because it has trademarked branding (that fox hugging planet)
[13:47] <iceroot> blami: as i said
[13:47] <iceroot> blami: you are not allowed to change firefox and call it still firefox because of the trademark
[13:48] <blami> iceroot: you are allowed to change firefox. It is opensource project
[13:48] <iceroot> blami: but not using the name firefox
[13:48] <ilja> so just ut the iso on the usb...
[13:48] <AndreeeCZ> hello. Would this netbook be okay with ubuntu? http://www.alza.cz/hp-pavilion-dm1-4210sc-d339930.htm#popis
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> AndreeeCZ  wrong channel
[13:49] <guang_> which command can be used to analyze fat file system??
[13:49] <blami> iceroot: yeah but you can recompile and package it and ship it
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:49] <iceroot> blami: yes
[13:49] <blami> iceroot: ubuntu compiles firefox from mozilla repository without any patches dissaproved by mofo
[13:49] <AndreeeCZ> MonkeyDust, what do you mean? This is #ubuntu channel.. ? In what channel should i ask? :)
[13:49] <blami> iceroot: you can even pack it with handful of extensions or plugins
[13:50] <blami> iceroot: and it is still ok
[13:50] <mat619> Hey there! A coworker would like to have an own session on my Xeon workstation that I use here, in order to have access to a powerful machine for number crunching to access from a Windows terminal server. Any ideas how to accomplish this task? I've never done anything like that, so open for all ideas.
[13:50] <guang_> for example,i want to find the sec number of root directory by tool instead of manual.
[13:50] <iceroot> blami: and earlier versions did not recompile it, they used the binary
[13:50] <blami> iceroot: problems in debian were a little bit different
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> AndreeeCZ  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[13:50] <mustafa_> blami :iam using 12.10
[13:50] <mat619> Running Kubuntu 12.04 btw.
[13:50] <iceroot> blami: and because of that there was not amd64 version
[13:50] <blami> iceroot: I would say they shipped recompilled 32bit only binary because flash and java wasn't compatible with 64bit one
[13:52] <iceroot> blami: i thought the reason was different but the result will be the same, 32bit version :)
[13:53] <mephistohk> dd
[13:53] <Dooma> hello
[13:53] <kakq> good
[13:53] <kakq> I'm be back
[13:53] <mephistohk> yes, you are back
[13:54] <Dooma> I have a problem with acpi buttons .. for example Brightness down button
[13:54] <hanai> hi
[13:54] <Dooma> hi
[13:54] <BluesKaj> iceroot, blama , the adobe site version libflashplayer.so placed in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins works fine here
[13:57] <ilja> should i format my usb to FAT if i should install from USB?
[13:57] <iceroot> ilja: no
[13:58] <iceroot> ilja: it will automaticly be formated to the ISO filesystem
[13:59] <mustafa_> hi
[14:02] <superbbb> ciao a tutti
[14:02] <superbbb> come si fa a formattare una penna usb
[14:02] <Pici> !it | superbbb
[14:09] <Domincii> Hey folks, I can't seem to access one of my hard drives in windows, however it's useable in Ubuntu, could someone help? or should i go to ##windows? im not sure which OS is the problem atm
[14:09] <kanliot> yes
[14:09] <kanliot> because its a windows problems
[14:10] <Domincii> kanliot: thanks
[14:10] <kanliot> is it ext4
[14:10] <b14d3> It could be an Ubuntu issue, if Samba isn't configured properly
[14:10] <b14d3> Or is it a dual-boot situation?
[14:10] <Pici> b14d3: samba doesn't have anything to do with drives on the same physical machine.
[14:10] <b14d3> I don't see anywhere where he said it was or was not on the same physical machine.
[14:11] <Pici> b14d3: er, nm, sorry :)
[14:11] <b14d3> No worries, just trying to explore possibilities :)
[14:11] <kanliot> yeah
[14:11] <kanliot> easy to jump to conclusions
[14:12] <mustafa_> hi
[14:12] <mustafa_> hi
[14:12] <mustafa_> hi
[14:12] <FloodBot1> mustafa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:12] <kanliot> lol
[14:13] <webdagger> I got a question
[14:13] <kanliot> ask
[14:15] <mustafa_>  mustafa: problem with canon printer
[14:15] <mustafa_> dont work
[14:16] <ilja> when i install ubuntu nothing has to be formatted before right? the ubuntu installer will take care of all that?
[14:16] <mustafa_>  mustafa:even when i configure it
[14:16] <mustafa_> a re done it
[14:16] <mustafa_>  mustafa still don t work
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  what is your language?
[14:17] <mustafa_> english
[14:18] <kanliot> is that your real name?
[14:18] <b14d3> ilja: If I remember correctly, then yes. Just pay attention to the prompts and it should allow you to.
[14:18] <mustafa_>  mustafa:english
[14:19] <notwist> hey guys, just wondering, is it likely possible that I could connect a domain name I own to my home IP-adress? Not only link it but actually IRC for example and have my domain be foo.com and so on.
[14:19] <Eagleman> Any suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(  compiling wasnt advised becuase other things could break
[14:19] <notwist> or is it something ISP:s tend to block
[14:20] <jrib> notwist: ask your ISP
[14:20] <notwist> jrib: problem is I don
[14:20] <notwist> t really know what to ask :)
[14:20] <kanliot> notwist, i've done it.  not that hard with free-ip.org
[14:20] <notwist> if I can have an... A domain? to one of my IP adresses?
[14:20] <jrib> notwist: ask them if you can run an http server on your connection
[14:20] <notwist> kanliot: that's not what I mean though
[14:21] <jrib> notwist: or whatever service you're thinking of running
[14:21] <notwist> ok, guys, I think you misunderstand. I already have a setup with free.dns.com -> my home ip. No problem there. I want to be able to have reverse lookups working, so that I can claim, from my computer, to come from foo.com if I own that domain.
[14:21] <notwist> so my home pc could be alpha.foo.com on the internet and so on
[14:22] <neogarfield> hello
[14:22] <neogarfield> first time at irc...
[14:22] <notwist> neogarfield: welcome :)
[14:22] <kanliot> point your foo.com to your free dns name.
[14:23] <neogarfield> thank you @notwist
[14:23] <notwist> neogarfield: no need for @-signs, thats only for twitter ;)
[14:23] <notwist> kanliot: um, i dont think that will work
[14:23] <neogarfield> ha, thanks
[14:24] <kanliot> fine.  what the heck do i know.
[14:25] <mustafa_>  mustafa: any suggestion of what to do with canon 3010 printer on ubuntu 12.10 after i configure it and the system see the printer
[14:26] <notwist> mustafa_: what is your problem
[14:26] <oskar-> notwist:  as long as you are in control of the responsible name servers for the IP space, your IP is from, you can set reverse records...
[14:26] <notwist> oskar-: well that would be the problem then I guess if I'm using a private connection
[14:27] <oskar-> notwist:  yes, i don't know of any provider supporting this. it would then very likely have to be your domain hoster and isp as well
[14:27] <mustafa_> <notwist:printer canon that dont work on the syster
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[14:28] <akamikeym> Hi. Can anyone tell me the license status of Unity? It's open source but is it FLOSS?
[14:28] <notwist> mustafa_: please elaborate, it doesn't tell me/us anything that it "doesn't work"
[14:29] <notwist> akamikeym: it can't be open source and not FLOSS
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> akamikeym  FLOSS means Free (Libre) Open Source Software
[14:29] <notwist> akamikeym: FLOSS software can still cost money and not be free to use
[14:29] <jrib> akamikeym: it's gpl or lgpl, I forget
[14:29] <mustafa_> it is simply dont print i give her a comand and the system tell me its processing but dont print shut
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> akamikeym  in a way, your question makes no sense
[14:29] <kilon> hello, I am using ubuntu 12.10 amd64 and when i open libreoffice document in ms office doc format , it displays untitled 1 in the title and when i change the content and press save it ask me for a filename, it also is not able to show the saved file in the same dialog
[14:30] <jrib> akamikeym: some parts are gpl, some lgpl it seems
[14:30] <mustafa_> even though i tried it on windows
[14:30] <akamikeym> Yes and therefore is different from open source, which is only necessarily openly available but not necessarily open for modification.
[14:30] <mustafa_> iam using wibi
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> akamikeym  you can always download the source ... use apt-get source
[14:31] <akamikeym> https://computerfloss.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/whats-in-a-name-free-vs-libre-vs-open-source/
[14:31] <akamikeym> PS. Thanks for the answers
[14:32] <retnum> If I add a bash script to init.d then make it executable +x it should be ran on startup yes?
[14:32] <jrib> retnum: no
[14:32] <notwist> akamikeym: "open source" almost exlusively means GPL or similar. If you claim that you are "open source" because you permit code audits but NOT modifications, you are making up your own terms.
[14:33] <jrib> !startup | retnum
[14:33] <notwist> akamikeym: ofcourse technically (semantically) "open source" means only "the source is open to see", but what people _mean_ when they say it is almost always FLOSS
[14:33] <retnum> jrib: Thank you
[14:33] <notwist> I don't think a company would call their code "open source" if they dont allow modifications.
[14:33] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * -100%
[14:33] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * -100%
[14:33] <mustafa_> want to open a print server simply how
[14:33] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * -100%
[14:33] <FloodBot1> iCarly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:34] <lucido> how can I enable the weather(temperature) widget in the status bar?
[14:34] <notwist> mustafa_: if you try to print a document from libreoffice for example, does that work? does it show up in the print queue?
[14:34] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * +100%
[14:34] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * +100%
[14:34] <iCarly> scroll nicklist * +100%
[14:34] <FloodBot1> iCarly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:34] <mustafa_> yes it does appear on the print queue
[14:34] <Eagleman> Any suggestion on what to do if i want to use spice with virt-manager, the current qemu version does not support spice :(  compiling wasnt advised becuase other things could break
[14:34] <mustafa_> but simply dont execute
[14:35] <notwist> mustafa_: have you installed proprietary drivers from the printer manufacturer? have you tried googling for similar problems?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> lucido: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[14:37] <beaver004> exit
[14:37] <compdoc> Eagleman, Im pretty sure you need a newer version of qemu-kvm than comes from the ubuntu repositories
[14:37] <lucido> ActionParsnip, hehe, quantal
[14:37] <mustafa_> well it says that that driver dont work on the newest version old driver
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> beaver004: its:    /exit
[14:38] <mustafa_> iam currently using 12.10
[14:38] <compdoc> spice isnt really needed anymore in any case
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> !info indicator-weather
[14:38] <untaken> how do I get a sshf mount point to mount, after the network is up?
[14:38] <mustafa_> is the is any solution
[14:38] <blami> mustafa_: sorry I had to leave for meeting
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> lucido: sudo apt-get install indicator-weather
[14:38] <lucido> ActionParsnip, thank you
[14:39] <oskar-> untaken:  if you have the mount definition in /etc/fstab, try the option "_netdev" (first char is an underscore)
[14:40] <untaken> oskar-: thank you, will take a look at that :)
[14:41] <virtu> Hi guys... I am having some troubles with Windows 8 pre-installed and ubuntu installs... I already made my notebook boot from USB and can install Ubuntu by something else option and creating partition for everything... but cant boot into ubuntu =(
[14:41] <virtu> I put the loader at /dev/sda6 -> BIOS Boot Partition
[14:47] <notwist> Just discovered "/ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS" - phew!
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> notwist  you forget MODES ;)
[14:51] <notwist> I think I can live with that as long as I don't have to see all the joins and parts :)
[14:53] <roasted_> Question - If my HDD is named storage, and I plug it in, it'll mount to /media/storage. But let's say another computer is rsyncing data to this particular system. The trick is, this system is rsyncing data over as the root user, and the destination is /media/storage. Question of the day - if I unplug the "storage" drive, would the rsync script fail due to /media/storage not existing? Or would it create the storage directory within /
[14:53] <roasted_> data over anyway since it's running as root?
[14:53] <notwist> roasted_: I'm pretty sure it would fail.
[14:54] <notwist> roasted_: I'm pretty sure /media/storage doesn't disappear because you disconnect the drive, correct?
[14:54] <notwist> roasted_: however it's easy to experiment, just unplug the disk and try writing something to /media/storage
[14:54] <RiXtEr> hey guys does anyone know if vim can have a header bar that will tell me what file is currently open? (or even change the title of the terminal window to let me know?)
[14:54] <roasted_> notwist: if it's mounted by fstab, /media/storage will always exist there. If it's simply named storage and you plug it in, it'll appear, then unplugged disappear. Try it with a flash drive and you'll see.
[14:54] <roasted_> notwist: yeah, I actually just thought I could test this with a flash drive...
[14:55] <roasted_> notwist: for a second I was thinking I was out of luck without my external, but I don't need that for the real experiment
[14:55] <compdoc> if  /media/storage exists even when the drive is unplugged, you'll end up filling up your OS drive
[14:55] <roasted_> compdoc: exactly.
[14:56] <roasted_> compdoc: my concern is... what if the drive isn't in fstab, so if I unplug it, "storage" (within /media) disappears... would the rsync script still create storage and dump the data on the OS drive since I'm running it as root? Or would it fail with storage being gone?
[14:56] <notwist> compdoc roasted_ so if it's mounted in fstab and the folder is still there even though it is unplugged, will it still write?
[14:56] <roasted_> notwist: yes, because if the drive is unmounted, yet the directory is still there, it'll assume it's on the primary drive.
[14:57] <roasted_> notwist: for example, let's say I have two drives. an 80GB OS drive, and a 1TB data drive at /media/storage. Technically /media/storage is on the 80GB drive unless I have the 1TB specifically mounted as such via fstab.
[14:57] <roasted_> notwist: so if the 1TB drive gets fried and doesn't mount, the /media/storage directory would thereby be empty, and currently reside on the 80GB OS drive.
[14:58] <notwist> roasted_: I understand all of that, I'm just thinking if fstab ever gets involved and says "something else is supposed to be here"
[14:58] <roasted_> notwist: if your OS drive gets 100% and you reboot, you won't be able to boot properly (been there). Just need to boot to a live USB/CD instance, mount the drive, and delete the data.
[14:58] <compdoc> notwist, you can prevent issues like that by writing to a specific folder inside /media/storage, is that if it disappears, it wont write
[14:58] <mustafa_> how to have a root privelige on command lie
[14:58] <compdoc> sudo su
[14:58] <oskar-> mustafa_:  sudo -i
[14:58] <roasted_> compdoc: I'm not understanding how a folder one layer deeper would matter. Nothing would disappear if it's in fstab. Unless I'm missing osmething?
[14:58] <mustafa_> tahnks
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  or simply sudo [command]
[14:59] <notwist> roasted_: it disappears if the mounted disk is gone obviously
[14:59] <notwist> roasted_: if you mount /dev/hda as /lulz then you wont be able to access /lulz/videos if /dev/hda is gone
[15:00] <formation3> problem de script d'enregistrement sur serveur marsnet
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[15:00] <roasted_> notwist: oh, I see. the mount point would still exist (/media/storage) but it would be empty.
[15:01] <notwist> roasted_: yep
[15:01] <roasted_> notwist: good thought. I'll make some changes to my setup when I get home!
[15:03] <roasted_> I can't believe in all of the years I've used Linux I never gave that a thought... appreciate it notwist and compdoc for bringing it up.
[15:04] <phunyguy_work> roasted_, we are all students, ALL the time.  :)
[15:06] <budmaester> Can I use this cchannel for support on Xubuntu?
[15:06] <phunyguy_work> budmaester, sure, but #xubuntu is more appropriate.
[15:06] <budmaester> Thanks. Bye
[15:06] <roasted_> phunyguy_work: good philosophy. :D
[15:07] <phunyguy_work> I hope budmaester made it to #xubuntu... I don't see him there yet.
[15:08] <phunyguy_work> wonder if he got banned from the channel or something
[15:08] <slnls> hello there. quick question: any hint and answer is much appreciated: searching for a safe solution to get rid of ICQ. Are there safe and Open Source Alternatives between two Computers. Ubuntu in particular?
[15:08] <phunyguy_work> slnls,, yes, using salut.
[15:08] <ciphered> can XEN be installed/managed all in command line? or it needs a grpahical interface like virtualbox?
[15:08] <phunyguy_work> if you are just talking abotu two computers on the lan anyway
[15:10] <phunyguy_work> slnls, also if the computers are not on the same lan, you can install Pidgin with the OTR plugin, and use something like Google Talk.
[15:10] <ciphered> can xen be installed/managed all in command line? or it needs a grpahical interface like virtualbox?
[15:10] <phunyguy_work> !patience ciphered
[15:10] <phunyguy_work> !patience | ciphered
[15:11] <Raion> I have a question... It probably is a noob question, but please bear with me... What I want to ask is about Web services... Web services is all about calling a php or some other code file using the http proxy....right?
[15:12] <phunyguy_work> !info vmm
[15:12] <phunyguy_work> thats not it...
[15:13] <phunyguy_work> !info virt-manager
[15:14] <cntb> hi just FYI not trolling .can visit  new https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/107299007624972266094 ubuntu community .we all google right?  just discovered new community seeya
[15:14] <cntb> bbl
[15:14] <phunyguy_work> !spam
[15:14] <phunyguy_work> hmm
[15:14] <phunyguy_work> cntb, please don't do that again
[15:14] <cntb> no spam rleax
[15:15] <diego> hello
[15:15] <Jodorowsky> hi, when i try to install the adobe flash plugin from the website i get the error "unknown channel 'quantal-partner'"
[15:15] <diego> hello hello hello
[15:15] <phunyguy_work> cntb, that is offtopic.
[15:15] <slnls> phunyguy_work: Thanks. I only found SILC. Reading now. The computers are 200 kilometers away. Its me chatting with girlfriend but ICQ: donotwant.jpg. Thanks for the answers. *gives cookies to channel
[15:15] <cntb> ok  ok phunyguy_work
[15:15] <phunyguy_work> !ask | diego
[15:15] <cntb> definitely offtopic phunyguy_work apologize
[15:16] <phunyguy_work> !ot | cntb
[15:16] <diego> anyone using hybride evolution ?
[15:16] <cntb> ty phunyguy_work
[15:17] <phunyguy_work> !anyone | diego
[15:17] <roasted_> notwist, compdoc, it looks like that doesn't work... burying it a layer deeper.
[15:17] <slnls> btw using pidgin would definetly help. I see salut (bonjour) is in there. I want to avoid ICQ at any cost.
[15:17] <Guest63216> hi
[15:17] <Guest63216> any expert around?
[15:18] <Guest63216> i have certain querries to ask?
[15:18] <phunyguy_work> slnls, then there is yoru answer.  the OTR plugin should be available, if not it is in the repos
[15:18] <b14d3> !ask Guest63216
[15:18] <b14d3> Aw, forgot the pipe symbol
[15:18] <b14d3> Oh well, don't ask to ask a question, just ask :)
[15:18] <phunyguy_work> !ask | Guest63216
[15:18] <Eagleman> !package libvirt
[15:18] <Eagleman> !libvirt
[15:18] <Guest63216> lol right
[15:18] <phunyguy_work> Eagleman !info
[15:18] <phunyguy_work> !info libvirt
[15:18] <slnls> phunyguy_work: OTR uses ICQ. And i want to use something else. Is this not advised?
[15:19] <phunyguy_work> OTR = off the record.
[15:19] <phunyguy_work> it's a plugin that encrypts IIRC
[15:19] <phunyguy_work> has nothing to do with IRC.
[15:19] <Eagleman> !packages
[15:19] <phunyguy_work> ERRR, ICQ**
[15:19] <Guest63216> and prolly its outdated version
[15:19] <Guest63216> i have installed ubuntu 6
[15:19] <Guest63216> now i try to update softwares but im unable to
[15:19] <diego> why ubuntu 6 ?
[15:20] <phunyguy_work> Eagleman, you can /msg ubottu if you would like to query a bunch at once to test.
[15:20] <opalepatrick> using 12.10 unity - anyhone noticed a problem with Firefox not wanting to minimise or lose focus. If I move away from Firefox, it immediately returns to the top.
[15:20] <phunyguy_work> Guest63216 - that version is EOL
[15:20] <phunyguy_work> !eol | Guest63216
[15:21] <opalepatrick> this is without extensions on a new install but alos happened previously
[15:21] <phunyguy_work> opalepatrick, are you using anything like devilspie?
[15:22] <opalepatrick> not that I am aware phunyguy_work
[15:22] <phunyguy_work> ok.  That is strange behavior that I haven't seen yet, and I have 5 machines running Quantal.
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> Guest63216  better download ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10, create cd or usb stick and install that
[15:23] <almoxarife> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/4019 <-- that should be a !netflix thing
[15:23] <almoxarife> !netflix
[15:23] <almoxarife> nevermind :)
[15:24] <opalepatrick> It is strange phunyguy_work - makes it unusable. Had it on an update to 12.10 and a new install (same /home mind)
[15:24] <BoozeWooz> from hi:P
[15:24] <opalepatrick> Wonder if it is worth creating a new profile... might do that
[15:24] <qasim_> i have aqn old laptop (processor=1.7ghz & RAM = 1 GB) please advise my best light weight version of linux...
[15:24] <BoozeWooz> take LXDE
[15:24] <BoozeWooz> or EDE
[15:25] <BoozeWooz> also, 1.7Ghz 1GB ram isnt old :P
[15:25] <qasim_> EDE?
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> qasim_  try xubuntu or lubuntu
[15:25] <qasim_> well it indeed is
[15:25] <phunyguy_work> !lubuntu | qasim_
[15:25] <almoxarife> qasim_: xubuntu or lubuntu, xfce / lxde
[15:25] <BoozeWooz> http://equinox-project.org/
[15:25] <phunyguy_work> !xubuntu | qasim_
[15:25] <BoozeWooz> TBH, xfce is too bloated now to be concidered lightweight really
[15:25] <qasim_> atleast old for using winows 7 OS
[15:26] <qasim_> ty phuny
[15:26] <qasim_> someone else also told me to use xubuntu
[15:26] <BoozeWooz> hmm lubuntu is more lightweight
[15:26] <diego>  use bodhi or xubuntu
[15:26] <phunyguy_work> xubuntu will be fine with thos specs.
[15:26] <BoozeWooz> just get usb stick and put unetbootin
[15:26] <almoxarife> qasim_: lxde is a bit nicer looking, my opinion
[15:26] <phunyguy_work> diego, bodhi is not supported here.
[15:26] <BoozeWooz> make some nice list of +- 5 distro and test it out
[15:27] <qasim_> lxde hmmm
[15:27] <phunyguy_work> please dont suggest other distros that are not ubuntu-supported.
[15:27] <qasim_>  right
[15:27] <BoozeWooz> Ubuntu (Lubuntu/xubuntu), mepis(antix) etc etc
[15:27] <almoxarife> qasim_: the mascot of xfce is a rat, need i say more?
[15:27] <BoozeWooz> i run here xubuntu hmm
[15:27] <qasim_> almox ty
[15:27] <qasim_> im reading
[15:27] <phunyguy_work> !helpful | BoozeWooz
[15:28] <qasim_> i will try to see all these versions
[15:28] <BoozeWooz> thankx
[15:28] <BoozeWooz> though, the ram usage is +- 120MB clean
[15:28] <phunyguy_work> what was that command...
[15:28] <BoozeWooz> i cant say about it.. being ligtweight :/
[15:28] <qasim_> but i personally feel xbuntu woul be good
[15:28] <almoxarife> qasim_: :(
[15:29] <phunyguy_work> !poll
[15:29] <qasim_> almoxa ..do you have any reservation about xubuntu?
[15:29] <diego> this is ubuntu channel
[15:29] <BoozeWooz> look at from examples, DSL oorr..puppy, tinycore
[15:29] <phunyguy_work> qasim_, that is for you
[15:29] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, please stop suggesting unsupported distros.
[15:29] <BoozeWooz> oki
[15:30] <BoozeWooz> still, wait
[15:30] <qasim_> im a new linux user and i happened o install ubuntu 6 which is quite old thats why i needed opinion
[15:30] <wdp> qasim_, so just update it?
[15:30] <phunyguy_work> !eol | qasim_
[15:30] <wdp> :D
[15:30] <BoozeWooz> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=1
[15:30] <BoozeWooz> look there, its comparison mem usage
[15:30] <qasim_> well if it was that easy
[15:30] <diego> thats old ubuntu 6
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: why not just reinstall with a newer release, upgrading will take a LONG time
[15:30] <Pici> qasim_: that release is not supported.
[15:30] <BoozeWooz> and some cool pix too
[15:31] <qasim_> one more thing
[15:31] <BoozeWooz> hmm interestings, didnt think theres so few differanse
[15:31] <BoozeWooz> http://www.phoronix.com/data/img/results/linux_desktop_vitals/2.png
[15:31] <BoozeWooz> heres ^
[15:31] <qasim_> does xubuntu support flash player adobe reader and java jre?
[15:31] <BoozeWooz> all yes
[15:31] <phunyguy_work> qasim_, yeas
[15:31] <BoozeWooz> they are support
[15:31] <phunyguy_work> yes*
[15:31] <qasim_> kool
[15:32] <BoozeWooz> but i think java needs some hackeries
[15:32] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, the real differences would be between the different flavors of ubuntu.
[15:32] <qasim_> ty xperts
[15:32] <BoozeWooz> theres oracle java (bad), but openjre /jdk would work
[15:32] <BoozeWooz> without prolbmes
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: yes, all the official releases will play flash and java
[15:32] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, there is nothing wrong with Oracle Java.
[15:32] <BoozeWooz> there is
[15:32] <qasim_> im gonna use java runtime environment so i guess that wont cause much trouble
[15:32] <phunyguy_work> however, it is not used in Ubuntu
[15:32] <paperplane> I have 2 NICs. NetworkManager always connects to the same network on each NIC when I boot. Can it be set to connect to the two different networks on every login?
[15:32] <BoozeWooz> if you see how bad java is supported by them
[15:33] <BoozeWooz> but yes, also license is sub-optimal
[15:33] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, that is !ot.
[15:33] <BoozeWooz> ?
[15:33] <phunyguy_work> !ot | BoozeWooz
[15:34] <BoozeWooz> uhh ok soz
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: its fine, there is a PPA for easy install of Oracle Java
[15:34] <wdp> ActionParsnip, link?
[15:34] <BoozeWooz> why do that, openjdk better
[15:34] <wdp> ActionParsnip, actually i was looking for that
[15:34] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, please stop.
[15:34] <almoxarife> !oracle
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> wdp: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=java+ppa
[15:35] <almoxarife> duckduck :0
[15:35] <mustafa_> how to move a file from downloads directory to another directory using root privilege
[15:35] <BoozeWooz> su first then do it?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: there are features that some people need, one isn't better than the other, they are just different
[15:35] <BoozeWooz> like sudo pcmanfm
[15:35] <wdp> ActionParsnip, if it was that easy :D
[15:35] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: you got me hooked on that search engine
[15:35] <BoozeWooz> and then you can do it like that
[15:35] <phunyguy_work> mustafa_, use the sudo command with the mv command in a terminal
[15:35] <BoozeWooz> or sudo nautilus
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> wdp: it is, I just showed you how easy it is
[15:35] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, NEVER run a GUI app with sudo.
[15:35] <qasim_> im downloading  xubuntu 12.10 ... its an ISO image..would i have to make a CD of it before installing
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: sudo is not to be used with gui apps like nautilus
[15:36] <BoozeWooz> hmm then
[15:36] <BoozeWooz> su -i and
[15:36] <wdp> ic, sorry. google gives me different results.
[15:36] <almoxarife> qasim_: or usb
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> qasim_  or an usb stick
[15:36] <BoozeWooz> then nautilus
[15:36] <phunyguy_work> !info gksudo
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: gksudo nautilus
[15:36] <phunyguy_work> errm...
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> wdp: google is garbage
[15:36] <almoxarife> gksu nautilus --no-desktop
[15:36] <qasim_> my lappy is old ...doesnt support usb
[15:36] <slnls> phunyguy_work:So OTR is the security. Salute is the protocol? I can not find how to set up salute for the protocol. thanks again. *gives more cookies to channel.
[15:36] <BoozeWooz> what could be happened wrong if i sudo nautlius?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: you can boot DVD without issue
[15:37] <slnls> BoozeWooz: it is gksudo nautilus
[15:37] <phunyguy_work> slnls, it may be called bonjour in Pidgin, my apologies
[15:37] <opalepatrick> thanks for the help, phunyguy_work - your comments made me think change profile, and it worked :-)
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> !gksudo | BoozeWooz
[15:37] <BoozeWooz> hmm interestings, fenks
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> BoozeWooz  but gksudo nautilus is dangerous and not recommended
[15:38] <phunyguy_work> opalepatrick, no problem :)
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: sudo is ONLY for GUI apps, it does not set up a suitable environment for X apps. It will garbage the ownershipof files in $HOME and make sudo not work. This will make users need to boot to root recovery mode to chown it back
[15:38] <BoozeWooz> o
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: this is easily avoided if you just use OS correctly.
[15:38] <phunyguy_work> ActionParsnip, typo
[15:38] <phunyguy_work> you meant terminal.
[15:38] <llutz> ActionParsnip: <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: sudo is ONLY for GUI apps???
[15:38] <wdp> ActionParsnip, s/GUI/CLI  ? :)
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: you can technically use gksudo for both CLI and GUI commands
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> llutz: yeah, typo
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> wdp: d'o
[15:39] <Guest27090> Command to check hexadecimal value of string via termianl?
[15:39] <BoozeWooz> hmm nevermind all this hassle, i run always as root anyways, problem solved
[15:39] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, that is not AT ALL recommended.
[15:39] <phunyguy_work> please stop saying things like that.
[15:40] <bigbang> what do i need if ubuntu 12.10 pc has no access to internet untill after i install the wireless drivers.. for that I have a linksys wusb300n ?.. ndiswrapper ?..
[15:40] <llutz> Guest27090: echo yourstring|hexdump
[15:40] <Guest27090> Suppose i want to know hexa value of green.How to know it via a command
[15:40] <BoozeWooz> fine, i have some questions then: how to downgrade ubuntu from 12.04 to 10.04?
[15:40] <Guest5733> hi everyone. I just updated to kernel 3.5.0-18 and my broadcom BCM43225 does not work anymore. I tried to install the additional drivers (STA) but that does not work anymore. Using ubuntu 12.04. is there a solution for things like this?
[15:40] <Guest27090> llutz: Thanks !
[15:40] <BoozeWooz> i did some script but it didnt work so well
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest27090: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/6066/convert-ascii-string-to-hex
[15:40] <BoozeWooz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto <--- not so worky
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> BoozeWooz  switching off security turns your pc into a windows machine, nobody wants windows
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: you clean install if you want the earlier version
[15:40] <almoxarife> i tend to freeze ssh x11 forwarding sessions with gksu though, have not figured out why, sudo does not crash it though, with graphics apps
[15:40] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, install 10.04 fresh.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: Lucid desktop only has less than 6 months support left. I wouldn't bother with it
[15:41] <Guest27090> ActionParsnip: Thanks@'
[15:41] <BoozeWooz> ok then, the problem is: i have server with 10.04. if i compile something at my pc with 12.04 it complains about glibc incompatabilities...
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: why do you want to use Lucid?
[15:41] <Dooma> hi.. i have a issue when i compile nux.. i recieve this error "'shared_ptr' in namespace 'std' does not name a type" .. can you help me ?
[15:42] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, upgrade the server?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: yes, the glibc versions are different
[15:42] <BoozeWooz> i did that but, i cant get oracle java or openjdk to work at all...
[15:42] <BoozeWooz> (its a minecraft server)
[15:42] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, if you did that, the server would no longer be 10.04
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> did what?
[15:43] <phunyguy_work> or did you mean you did and reverted back?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: did you install oracle java via the handy ppa?
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> the server is 10.04. i upgraded it to 12.04 for a day, and i couldnt run anything
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> so i downgraded it back to 10.04
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> PPA?
[15:43] <phunyguy_work> !ppa
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> there's 2 ppa's i used.. some web8 i remember
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: Lucid server has another 2 years in it.
[15:43] <BoozeWooz> and hmmm some else i cant remember
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: why upgrade if it wasn't broken?
[15:44] <zalgor> Hello. In which file is the last user desktop manager selection stored?
[15:44] <BoozeWooz> i upgraded desktop, and couldnt run to GLIBC
[15:44] <BoozeWooz> so i upgraded server too, and nothing worked..
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> zalgor: the default is LightDM, that will probably be the last one if you changed it
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: is the only thing not working the Minecraft server?
[15:46] <BoozeWooz> svn
[15:46] <zalgor> ActionParsnip, I don't mean the session manager, but desktop manager like kde, gnome and so on. I
[15:46] <BoozeWooz> but its probably due to some miss configurations, that subversion thing
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> zalgor: thats the desktop environment, not the desktop manager
[15:47] <BoozeWooz> so ok, what happens after the 2 years? or 6 months for desktop (10.04?)
[15:47] <BoozeWooz> no more updates?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> zalgor: let me search
[15:47] <blami> zalgor: ~/.dmrc (its user specific thingie)
[15:48] <roasted_> notwist: hey not sure if you're still here, but yeah that won't fly. It seems to be writing the files/directory if it doesn't exist. I assum ethis is because I'm running as root.
[15:48] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, precisely.
[15:48] <phunyguy_work> !eol | BoozeWooz
[15:48] <BoozeWooz> hmm well thats quite bad
[15:49] <BoozeWooz> what if i installed server edition 10.04, and some desktop env. will i still get updates for 2 years?
[15:49] <ping__> hy ubuntu user
[15:49] <zalgor> blami, that looks good. thank you, blami and ActionParsnip
[15:49] <BoozeWooz> ei
[15:49] <ping__> how to run hackshield on linux
[15:50] <ping__> imposible, yeah
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> blami: thanks
[15:50] <BoozeWooz> hackshield, that anticheat creps?
[15:50] <ping__> no
[15:50] <joint2k> i found out how to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8
[15:50] <BoozeWooz> :D
[15:50] <slnls> ok I found xmpp / jabber for pidgin and otr. which is optimal and better then bonjour imho. thanks for the help. *gives cookies to channel
[15:50] <ping__> games indonesia poinblank.exe
[15:50] <ping__> imposible running on linux
[15:51] <BoozeWooz> yes, hackshield is anticheat
[15:51] <joint2k> it seems the ubuntu 12 series doesnt have the proper drivers. you can install ubuntu 11.10, it will detect windows 8.. and you can upgrade ubuntu from there
[15:51] <ping__> yeah
[15:51] <BoozeWooz> you cannot run it because it has KERNEL module
[15:51] <ping__> how to fix
[15:51] <BoozeWooz> and, wine doesnt handle ring0 so well iirc
[15:51] <BoozeWooz> you cant
[15:51] <phunyguy_work> !wine | ping__
[15:51] <BoozeWooz> its the same with some other anticheat such as Punkbusters and
[15:51] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, it is offtopic.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> ping__: check the appdb for compatibility
[15:52] <BoozeWooz> ja k, some programs wont run under wine ubuntu
[15:52] <ping__> BoozeWooz, i hope can running, because, it is a barrier for Indonesian people, do not use linux
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> ping__: or contact the developers
[15:52] <ping__> ActionParsnip, imposible dude
[15:52] <operador> hi, I have a question.... how can I install ubuntu on laptops with windows 8... it has a protected BIOS
[15:52] <BoozeWooz> :DDD bring bak desktop
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> ping__: it may be a deal breaker then
[15:53] <operador> hi, I have a question.... how can I install ubuntu on laptops with windows 8... it has a protected BIOS
[15:53] <gen> hello there
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> operador: we saw the first time
[15:53] <BoozeWooz> hmm the server version has different repositories?
[15:53] <operador> ActionParsnip,  sorry
[15:53] <phunyguy_work> !patience | operador
[15:53] <ping__> just because hackshield problem can not walk on linux, many Indonesian people who use linux, can you solve this problem, people also like to use linux Indonesia
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> operador: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[15:54] <operador> ActionParsnip, thanls alot..
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> ping__: what does it do?
[15:54] <ping__> until now no one has been able to solve this problem,
[15:54] <gen> i have a "crackeling sound"
[15:54] <gen> i am running lubuntu 12.10 on an eeepc 1000he
[15:55] <ping__> no respon
[15:55] <BoozeWooz> ?
[15:55] <gen> i am experiencing a cracking sound coming from the speakers
[15:56] <gen> even when an external speaker is connected
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> ping__: 2nd time, what does the app do?
[15:56] <BoozeWooz> actionparsnip: hackshield?
[15:56] <b14d3> gen: I would venture to guess that this is not an Ubuntu issue. This sounds hardware related.
[15:56] <ping__> this game http://download.gemscool.com/pb/PBsetupNov132012.exe
[15:56] <ping__> from indonesia
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> ping__: so its just a casual game?
[15:57] <ping__> playing game dude
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> gen: what is the output of:  wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:57] <Monotoko> ping__ ... you're trying to run an exe on Linux?
[15:57] <BoozeWooz> tru wine
[15:57] <phunyguy_work> !wine | ping__
[15:57] <ping__> hackshield can run, I've tried it
[15:57] <ping__> can't run dude
[15:58] <Monotoko> ping__ ... it runs? Natively?!
[15:58] <mustafa_> how can i move any file to directory var /www
[15:58] <phunyguy_work> anything beyond that in wine, is a question for the #winehq channel.
[15:58] <gen> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f2442886a03741dc4faf96d9aa5b96fcbe39483f
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> ping__: its not listed in the appdb
[15:58] <ping__> it's a problem for Indonesia, so they are still using windows, it is unfortunate not only because it
[15:58] <b14d3> mustafa_: Are you trying by command line or by gui?
[15:58] <mustafa_> command line
[15:58] <BoozeWooz> hmm .. if i install ubuntu server 10.04 WITH gui will i still get 2 year support?
[15:58] <Monotoko> ping__, then lobby the developers to make it work with Linux
[15:59] <mustafa_> or even with gui
[15:59] <b14d3> mustafa_: sudo mv <from directory> <to directory>
[15:59] <BedMan> mustafa_: mv startfile /var/www/finishfile
[15:59] <Monotoko> there isn't much we can do to make something run on Linux that isn't designed for Linux... there's various ways we can try (wine) but it'd be far easier if the developer releases a Linux version#
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> gen: try:    killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds and reboot
[15:59] <ping__> ActionParsnip, ya, I mean, come together to solve this problem, hundreds or even thousands of people in Indonesia, do not use linux just because of this issue
[15:59] <BoozeWooz> so dualboot
[16:00] <gen> statet no process found
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> ping__: its a 'problem' for anyone wanting to play the game, not just Indonesia
[16:00] <jrib> BedMan: you get 3 years of support on 10.04 desktop  since release.  Desktop support will for 10.04 ends in April 2013
[16:00] <BoozeWooz> and use wintendo for gams =)
[16:00] <jrib> s/will//
[16:00] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, the command is ubuntu-support-status on the server
[16:00] <ping__> unfortunately not
[16:00] <Monotoko> ping__ - dualboot, use a virtual machine, or face the fact that most games are developed for Windows
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> ping__: you may need a virtual Windows OS runninig in Virtualbox if you really need the app
[16:00] <jrib> BoozeWooz: you get 3 years of support on 10.04 desktop  since release.  Desktop support for 10.04 ends in April 2013
[16:00] <mustafa_> can i move it with gui
[16:00] <ping__> is not there a developer who thought this issue
[16:00] <BedMan> jrib: I'd heard that
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> ping__: you'll need a bit of system power, a windows license and media
[16:01] <b14d3> mustafa_: You should be able to, but it may ask you for the root password, depending on what you're moving.
[16:01] <Monotoko> ping__ - the developers of the application, they're the only people with the source code
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> ping__: Contact the devs
[16:01] <Monotoko> they can release a Linux version if these thousands of people put pressure on them to do so
[16:01] <ping__> ActionParsnip, no, This game is very tough run in virtual
[16:01] <bugiam> is it possible to force an application to a specific resolution? maybe via another application or via a work around?
[16:01] <phunyguy_work> ping__, we are trying to help you.  you need to contact the devs of the game.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> ping__: then you'll need to dual boot
[16:01] <ping__> and I've tried it, same not run
[16:02] <BoozeWooz> ubuntu-support-status
[16:02] <BoozeWooz> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:02] <BoozeWooz>   File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-support-status", line 120, in <module>
[16:02] <BoozeWooz>     (still_supported, support_str) = get_maintenance_status(cache, pkg.name, support_tag)
[16:02] <BoozeWooz>   File "/usr/bin/ubuntu-support-status", line 41, in get_maintenance_status
[16:02] <BoozeWooz>     raise Exception("No date tag found")
[16:02] <FloodBot1> BoozeWooz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <phunyguy_work> *sigh*
[16:02] <b14d3> ActionParsnip: For the crackling speakers issue, was that something you knew, or could you link an article for me to read up on what that did?
[16:02] <ping__> phunyguy_work, the devs use windows, not linux
[16:03] <BoozeWooz> ops, sorry. >< 12.04 is beug. im too install 10.04
[16:03] <BedMan> bugiam: most x11 apps take a geom argument
[16:03] <phunyguy_work> ping__, then you need to contact them.  running a windows game in wine is supported in the #winehq channel. Please join that channel and ask your question.
[16:03] <Monotoko> ping__ - Linux and Windows are very different... you won't make a Windows app run in Linux, or eve a Linux app run in Windows unless the source code is released
[16:03] <ping__> until this moment no one can
[16:03] <bugiam> BedMan: thanks, i'll look into that
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> b14d3: its my first thing to try with sound issues. Set default settings
[16:03] <Monotoko> it's not possible for us to help you
[16:03] <Monotoko> it's not that we won't... it's that we can;t
[16:03] <b14d3> ActionParsnip: Cool. I'll have to try and find/remember that for the future. Thanks.
[16:04] <BoozeWooz> hmm any differens between i386 and amd64?
[16:04] <ping__> hmm, very imposible, i think
[16:04] <phunyguy_work> agreed, ping__
[16:04] <BoozeWooz> i have tried amd64 but its not work even thou i have amd
[16:04] <qasim_> what is the best procedure to write iso image on a blank CD
[16:04] <Monotoko> yes, unless you get the developers to release the source code or a compiled Linux version... it's impossible
[16:05] <phunyguy_work> !info brasero | qasim_
[16:05] <ping__> phunyguy_work, :D
[16:05] <qasim_> thanks
[16:05] <xeocs> excuse me, i installed server edition on a flash driver, but it cannot identify other machine's ethernet board, help, please!!
[16:05] <BoozeWooz> helps xD mike phelps
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, please stop with the offtopic outbursts.
[16:06] <BoozeWooz> try lshw-gtk
[16:06] <BoozeWooz> there you can see, all you're pci device, maybe its not even detected
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: use a cd burning app, there is no best app, just use one and tell it to burn the ISO as an image
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: there are 32bit AMD CPUs
[16:07] <qasim_> olrite action
[16:07] <BoozeWooz> hmm how to see
[16:07] <qasim_> actually being a new user linux is overwhelming for me
[16:07] <BoozeWooz> just go to ubuntu software center and put there you're searches
[16:07] <phunyguy_work> qasim_, it is a learning curve, just be patient and stick with it.  :)
[16:07] <xeocs> em,anyone help?
[16:07] <qasim_> specially a user who is all spoon fed by friendly softwares
[16:08] <phunyguy_work> !patience xeocs
[16:08] <phunyguy_work> !patience | xeocs
[16:08] <phunyguy_work> grrrr...  keep forgetting the pipe
[16:08] <BoozeWooz> xeocs, get that gtk app i wrote, its good and shows all devices
[16:08] <xeocs> oh, thanks, i 'll try it!
[16:08] <BoozeWooz> :P
[16:09] <BoozeWooz> hmm it says K6
[16:09] <phunyguy_work> xeocs, go into /etc/network/interfaces and change eth0 to whatever the device is on the new machine
[16:09] <BoozeWooz> i686? works on i386 too?
[16:09] <BoozeWooz> where i get ubuntu i686?
[16:10] <phunyguy_work> xeocs then sudo service networking restart
[16:10] <almoxarife> ActionParsnip: i ran that script you linked, mine came up blank on alsa.libs, i dont have sound issues though, script quirk?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: k6 is 32bit
[16:10] <BoozeWooz> they need to fix tis stuff its confusing..
[16:10] <BoozeWooz> just make 1 version for all..
[16:10] <xeocs> mmm, i will try, but it is a little bit hard for some newbies like me, anyway thx!!
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: should support i686 ok
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> xeocs, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html is a good reference
[16:11] <BoozeWooz> i shall try this i386 then! fenks
[16:12] <souliaq> I have this script: http://pastebin.com/bfNSYcS2, when I run this from terminal intips works fine, but when it autostart (init.d), the field IP appears blank.
[16:12] <phunyguy_work> BoozeWooz, you have been warned about the offtopic outbursts.  I understand this is tough stuff to understand.
[16:12] <xeocs> phunyguy_work: alot thx
[16:12] <souliaq> the problem is the behavior of the script is different whe it "autostarts" that when I run this manually.
[16:13] <Ashleyludlow> Gtg
[16:14] <BoozeWooz> hmmm.. i forgot this pc's cd-rom hsa been broken. is there another way to install ubuntu thanCD?
[16:14] <BoozeWooz> like floppydrive or something? i still have it working here
[16:14] <phunyguy_work> !liveusb | BoozeWooz
[16:14] <b14d3> You're quick with those phunyguy_work
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: that's a lot of text
[16:15] <phunyguy_work> I am a bot.
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: there is a floppy image to then make the PC boot uSB
[16:15] <phunyguy_work> oh right, he said K6
[16:15] <BoozeWooz> no
[16:15] <phunyguy_work> isn't there a network install as well?
[16:15] <BoozeWooz> i have LAN, so maybe there a LAn minimal installer
[16:15] <BoozeWooz> and then put internets? from there ubuntu?
[16:16] <phunyguy_work> !netinstall | BoozeWooz
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: if you put that in a script (make the top line #!/bin/bash     you can then add the script in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, it will run before the login screen loads
[16:16] <BoozeWooz> because my pc has USB, but doesnt suppot boot over usb
[16:17] <phunyguy_work> and there you have it.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> BoozeWooz: yes but it can boot floppy, then the system will be told to load the kernel from the USB and it will boot the USB
[16:17] <phunyguy_work> He's gone, ActionParsnip
[16:18] <BoozeWooz_> :p
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: its a tonne of text for what is actually outputted
[16:18] <BoozeWooz_> mm yes
[16:18] <xeocs> i thought you could choose a startup dev by pressing f12, that doesn't help with your maching?
[16:18] <souliaq> ActionParsnip, I don't understand what do you mean.
[16:18] <souliaq> The output is not long
[16:19] <phunyguy_work> xeocs, his machine was too old to see USB device as a boot option.  Moot point now anyway.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: put the text you pastebinned in a text file and make the first line:   #!/bin/bash      you can then mark the file as executable and you will have a script
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: you can then add it above the 'exit 0' line in /etc/rc.local and it will run at boot
[16:20] <xeocs> mmm, i am impressed..
[16:21] <Wassermelone> from hi
[16:22] <Wassermelone> so ye, perhaps i could hook this harddrive up to my other pc and install ubuntu there
[16:22] <Wassermelone> would that work?
[16:22] <souliaq> ActionParsnip, I know that, that's not the problem, the problem is, different behavior, look this:
[16:22] <Wassermelone> ;o
[16:22] <Wassermelone> ^^
[16:22] <souliaq> result when autorun: IP:  Fecha: Mon Dec 10 11:20:50 COT 2012
[16:22] <Wassermelone> :DD wrong person xDDDD
[16:22] <llutz> souliaq: try " .... intips { LANG=C /sbin/ifconfig |grep ....."
[16:23] <souliaq> result when I try manually: IP: eth0: 192.168.8.90 lo: 127.0.0.1 Fecha: Mon Dec 10 11:22:42 COT 2012
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: even if you run it from /etc/rc.local ?
[16:23] <jrib> souliaq: I think you should say /why/ you are doing this.  There may be a better way to achieve whatever your real goal is
[16:23] <souliaq> Yes when I run it from /etc/rc.local, and even when I call this from .desktop file located in .config/autostart!!!
[16:25] <souliaq> jrib maybe but, anyway this is not normal, why the behavior is not the same, when a SH autostarts, that when I call it manually.
[16:25] <jrib> souliaq: probably because your script gets called before interfaces get set up...
[16:26] <qasim_> i have downloaded brasero.... when i try to open its opening in archive manager...i dont know how to install/run it ..help please..
[16:26] <souliaq> jrib, yes,  I going to try put a sleep
[16:26] <jrib> souliaq: you should state your actual goal
[16:26] <ihack> merry christmas everyone - http://iosdevs.org/christmas/
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: in your script, add a line:   sleep 20      then add an amperand to the end of the line in /etc/rc.local
[16:26] <bazhang> qasim_, downloaded how
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: remember to add the ampersand or the boot will simply hang, the backgrounding allows the boot to continue while the script runs
[16:28] <Wild> from hi
[16:28] <Wild> :PP
[16:28] <Wild> not so much feffect xDD
[16:28] <qasim_> how to install brasero? i can open it only in archive manager folder..and there is no install option
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: brasero is in a default install of Ubuntu
[16:28] <qasim_> hmmm
[16:28] <souliaq> qasim_ apt-get install brasero
[16:28] <bazhang> qasim_, I asked you how you downloaded it
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> souliaq: with sudo, of course
[16:29] <qasim_> i downloaded it from its official site
[16:29] <qasim_> sorry i dint read your line earlier
[16:29] <wdnz> Anyone here worked with ehcp before?
[16:29] <bazhang> qasim_, thats not how to install it
[16:29] <Starlet> ehcp?
[16:29] <wdnz> easy hosting contorl panel
[16:29] <qasim_> well
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: you don't need to manually download anything, its all in the software centre
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: what OS are you using now?
[16:30]  * ActionParsnip bets its a ma
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> mac
[16:30] <qasim_> its ubuntu 6
[16:30] <Ristovski> Any idea why "sudo ping HOST -f -c 500" keeps making an audible ping when I have used -a for only once before
[16:30] <qasim_> ubuntu 6.o6
[16:30] <Ristovski> pretty annoying
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: there are no packages for Ubuntu 6, you will have Brasero installed by default
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: or some other burner
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> *whoever recommended EDE - i'm testing it in virtual box*
[16:30] <Starlet> doelbnen
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Ristovski: why does ping need sudo?
[16:31] <qasim_> okay
[16:31] <Ristovski> ActionParsnip: It needs sudo for "-f"
[16:31] <BoozeWooz_> bak
[16:31] <Ristovski> ActionParsnip: I have added "-a" (audible ping) ONCE, now it does a audible ping when ever I use "sudo ping"
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Ristovski: did you previously have bell volume at 0 ?
[16:34] <Ristovski> ActionParsnip: no, it was enabled
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Ristovski: hmm, strange
[16:34] <Ristovski> I just wanted to try it for once, now it does it every time when I ping as root
[16:34] <Ristovski> ActionParsnip: could it be some config cache file I can safely clear?
[16:35] <io___> hi iafter upgrading to 12.10 the pc gets stuck at the loading OS animation, the only way i have to login is failsafe then startx as root
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> io___: what video chip do you use?
[16:37] <io___> some old Radeon stuff
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Ristovski: no idea tbh, seems a bit weird. Are there any bugs reported?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> io___: try the boot option:    radeon.nomodeset=1
[16:37] <io___> but if i plug directly to the onboard i get the same issue
[16:38] <io___> ActionParsnip: do i set that up in Grub2?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | io___
[16:39] <io___> ActionParsnip: i aven t got a cd install, can i do that with grub or after i drop to the command line ?
[16:39] <io___> oh well i can just download it anyway, just to know if it s necessary
[16:41] <Ristovski> ActionParsnip: couldnt find anything, reinstalling ping doesnt fix the issue
[16:44] <sunjan> test!
[16:44] <mustafa_> how to make a chmod
[16:44] <mustafa_> its doesnt work
[16:44] <jrib> !permissions | mustafa_
[16:47] <qasim_> how to use live messenger through xubuntu?
[16:47] <qasim_> there are few softwares but they dont support voice calls
[16:48] <xeocs> ...can it be installed via wine?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> io___: its the same as the CD as in the installed OS
[16:48] <bazhang> qasim_, what version of xubuntu
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: there is emesene and amsn
[16:48] <qasim_> xubuntu
[16:48] <bazhang> qasim_, yes, what version
[16:48] <mustafa_> moving any file to directory var/www   doesnt seem to be working any suggestion
[16:49] <qasim_> xubuntu 12.10
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> qasim_: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=127   live messenger simply doesn't work
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: is it a desktop OS?
[16:49] <mustafa_> yes 12.04
[16:49] <mustafa_> 12.10
[16:49] <qasim_> ty action
[16:50] <mustafa_> sorry
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: then run:  gksudo nuatilus $HOME    and you can do as you wish
[16:50] <mustafa_> will try
[16:53] <mustafa_> iwas currently using root
[16:53] <mustafa_> and it doesnt seem to be work too
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: what errors do you get when you try to copy data over/
[16:54] <wdnz> how can I force the rmdir ? It won't let me because it isn't empty
[16:54] <mustafa_> mv cant stat no such file or directory
[16:55] <ikonia> it's not there
[16:55] <b14d3> wdnz: rm -rf (recursive and force iirc) <directory>
[16:55] <b14d3> But be very careful with it
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> wdnz: rm -r  folder
[16:55] <MERLO> hello
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> b14d3: no need for force
[16:55] <wdnz> ty
[16:55] <MERLO> !list
[16:55] <osse> Hi guys. I have a mail problem. Some time ago I tinkered with sendmail and some other package I can't remember the name of. Now /var/log claims all available space becase mail.err and mail.log just keep growing. I don't know what to do.
[16:55] <b14d3> ActionParsnip: Makes sense, I always forget that it isn't necessary, I usually include it, and didn't think about it because he asked to force it. Good call though.
[16:57] <locojay> i have a intel hd graphics 3000. under displays i only get 800x600(vnc) . under sys info i see Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (llvm 3.1, 256bits). unitiy_support_test -p fails on 3d support and not software rendered
[16:58] <locojay> any idea's how i can get a better resolution and support for unity so i can upgrade to 12.10
[16:58] <locojay> currenty on 12.04
[16:58] <cnz> what type of bot is ubottu
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> locojay: may help with the newer kernel and newer drivers
[16:58] <mustafa_> installing a php navigator for lamp server any idea
[16:59] <musiek> hi guys  i`v problem  with  install 5.16.0-0ubuntu1+ikarosdev
[16:59] <locojay> i m on kernel 3.2.0-34
[16:59] <locojay> should i upgade the kernel
[16:59] <ikonia> locojay: why ?
[16:59] <locojay> linux-headers-3.5.0.18?
[17:00] <ikonia> locojay: why ?
[17:00] <locojay> ActionParsnip suggested
[17:00] <mustafa_> installing a php navigator for lamp server any idea
[17:00] <ikonia> locojay: why ?
[17:00] <ikonia> mustafa_: what's the actual question
[17:00] <dcherniv> locojay, pastebin the output of glxinfo
[17:00] <ikonia> mustafa_: if you actually want a response, ask a question
[17:00] <musiek> i  try  instal it with  compizconfig  but was install only 5.16.0-0ubuntu1 with out 5 ikarosdev
[17:01] <musiek> can somone  help me? how  i  can install it?
[17:01] <ikonia> musiek: that makes no sense
[17:01] <ikonia> musiek: 1.) what ubuntu version do you have 2.) where are you getting this package 3.) how are you trying to install it 4.) what is the error
[17:02] <locojay> dcherniv: https://gist.github.com/4251844
[17:03] <mustafa_> i want to install a php navigator on ubuntu 12.10 iwant to move the files to var/www from download directory all i get in command line on the root acces is that the php navigator files (cant stat no such file or directory ) want to run lamp server?
[17:04] <xeocs> xampp
[17:04] <Oggy`> Rudda duh neh nuh hep tep roggy!
[17:04] <xeocs> that may do
[17:05] <Oggy`> Moistie bather.  riberian schmecklef  Mulla Malee loo lup the new flood wars.  Chuddy dip, chuddy dip, chuddy microchip
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[17:05] <Oggy`> Blubbity ash hoosh her mellopath.  a Maticake for my buddy andy  Oh we-heh-heh-hell I'm thinking about the greg nargs, I'm thinkin about you!  End midal too walkin' with a dolphin.  I went up that street, you went up another street, we all up the presidio.  I'm goin out with arsenio!
[17:05] <FloodBot1> Oggy`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:05] <Oggy`> fuckin bone screllalidge moink.  ruggity fucker fagger. rum dum dacka lacka rum dum jay  Go out with jay, another blue jay we fixed my astercoil plather  I'm hickin' my dagger  Rum dickily toon witherspoons.  I'm a falcons baleiva work with the yake my 7'9'er forever tumchy tither
[17:05] <Oggy`> i wrote my life story on my poop pad.  one of the greatest art exhibits of 1999 was in a new york museum of art.  In it, cow poop or fecal matter was put on a copy of the painting called "The Last Supper".  This was thought to be a form of modern art.  chumpin up the rears.  Rubb blillick bath.
[17:05] <dcherniv> locojay, that doesnt seem right. pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:06] <mustafa_> i want to install a php navigator on ubuntu 12.10 iwant to move the files to var/www from download directory all i get in command line on the root acces is that the php navigator files (cant stat no such file or directory ) want to run lamp server?and i have have installed all the services mysql apache2 php5 but i cant link them together to make a web server
[17:06] <ikonia> mustafa_: that error means the file is not there
[17:06] <ikonia> mustafa_: to fix that you have to put the file there
[17:07] <samuel> Hi everybody!  I'm a new Ubuntu user with some questions and I'd be grateful if you'd please help me out with them.  I setup Ubuntu 12.10 on Saturday night after Vista caused me to almost rage smash my laptop.  How do packages work?  Do I have to install them from the package manager or can I install them manually from some sort of installer file?  What's the best way to setup a python interpreter?
[17:07] <mustafa_> checked it multiple time its there
[17:07] <ikonia> mustafa_: it's not, or the error isn't there
[17:07] <ikonia> mustafa_: show me the exact command you are using
[17:08] <musiek> ok ,  someone  know  how i  kan  changin in  global  menu  - menu alweys visible??
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> locojay: if your screen isn't reporting its abilities you may need an xorg.conf file
[17:08] <mustafa_> sudo mv phpfilemanager /var/www/
[17:09] <locojay> dcherniv: https://gist.github.com/4251884
[17:09] <oskar-> mustafa_:  what is the result of that command, and what is the result of "ls -ld phpfilemanager /var/www/"?
[17:10] <aidan_> Hello, I have an issue. After doing a complete clean reinstall of Ubuntu, I wanted to use the proper nvidia drivers. Unfortunately, when I try to install the driver (latest one, 310.19) through the .run file, the installer moans that it can't find the kernel source files. Can anyone help?
[17:11] <mustafa_> drwxr-xr-x 4 mustafa mustafa 4096 Dec 10 19:03
[17:11] <mustafa_> mv: cannot stat `phpfilemanager': No such file or directory
[17:12] <dcherniv> locojay, intel driver is not loading as far as i can tell.
[17:12] <dcherniv> locojay, what VGA card is reported in lspci?
[17:12] <musiek> how  i  can  make  global menu in ubuntu 12.04  visible?
[17:13] <ikonia> mustafa_: use the full path
[17:13] <ikonia> mustafa_: you are using sudo so the current working directory is not valid
[17:13] <ikonia> hence why the file is not found
[17:13] <locojay> ActionParsnip: i m on vnc so no screen
[17:13] <locojay> sec
[17:13] <mustafa_> even without sudo
[17:13] <locojay> 00:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[17:13] <mustafa_> on the root usr
[17:13] <ikonia> mustafa_: use the full path
[17:14] <locojay> which is the intel graphics 3000
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> locojay: what is the output of:  ls -la /var/www
[17:14] <mustafa_> for both destination and source
[17:15] <aidan_> Hello, I have an issue. After doing a complete clean reinstall of Ubuntu, I wanted to use the proper nvidia drivers. Unfortunately, when I try to install the driver (latest one, 310.19) through the .run file, the installer moans that it can't find the kernel source files. Can anyone help?
[17:15] <locojay> i installed ubuntu via xen pv without passtrhough., just added passtrhougt and now i have the card in ubunutu. but under graphics info i only see Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe
[17:15] <dcherniv> locojay, is this installed: ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:15] <locojay> yes
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: what is the output of:  ls -la /var/www
[17:16] <dcherniv> aidan_, search for linux-headers in the package manager and install
[17:17] <locojay> also installed mesa-utils
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> locojay: does the system have a make and model?
[17:17] <mustafa_> actionparsnip:total 152
[17:17] <mustafa_> drwxr-xr-x  4 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec 10 19:03 .
[17:17] <mustafa_> drwxr-xr-x 27 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec 10 17:08 ..
[17:17] <mustafa_> drwxrwxr-x  6 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec  8 16:12 Linux_CAPT_PrinterDriver_V240_uk_EN
[17:17] <mustafa_> drwxrwxr-x  2 mustafa mustafa  4096 Dec 10 19:01 phpFileManager
[17:17] <mustafa_> -rw-rw-r--  1 mustafa mustafa 66152 Dec 10 18:24 phpFileManager-0.9.7(2).zip
[17:17] <FloodBot1> mustafa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <locojay> sry don't understand ActionParsnip
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: the file is there....
[17:17] <locojay> its a mac mini 2011
[17:18] <mustafa_> i told you
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> locojay: then that is the make and model :)
[17:18] <Ingenix> anybody here that can tell me why I can't get a working wifi hotspot with gnome network manager and a intel wifi link 5100?
[17:18] <mustafa_> simply not moving
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> locojay: let me search
[17:18] <oskar-> mustafa_:  it is already moved
[17:18] <locojay> running xen server dom0 . domU is ubuntu with passthrough of video card
[17:18] <locojay> ActionParsnip: thanks
[17:18] <bekks> mustafa_: "phpfilemanager" is different from "phpFileManage" - linux is case sensitive.
[17:19] <ikonia> mustafa_: how many times, use the FULL path
[17:19] <BluesKaj> locojay, what does the versiuon string from , glxinfo |grep OpenGL, output ?
[17:19] <mustafa_> okay let me try
[17:19] <mustafa_> soory that was the input dir
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> locojay: can you run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; sudo dmidecode -t 1 | pastebinit
[17:20] <locojay> http://cl.ly/image/1J1N22160d3n
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> locojay: you can use pastebin for text, no need for an image
[17:20] <mustafa_> many thanks it moved
[17:21] <locojay> sry was under vnc a payne
[17:21] <aidan_> dcherniv: OK, installed. I have reason to believe that I need to restart for these packages to work, so I'll be back in a minute
[17:21] <locojay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423576/
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> locojay: run the command I gave, what is the URL generated please
[17:21] <locojay> pastebinit solution
[17:21] <locojay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423576/
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> locojay: good ol mac.....NOT
[17:22] <locojay> mac mini mid 2011 with intel graphics 3000
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> locojay: try:  sudo wget -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/xorg.conf
[17:26] <locojay> reboot?
[17:26] <locojay> thanks
[17:26] <locojay> first
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> locojay: sure
[17:26] <locojay> rebooting....
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ...snow to push , BBL.
[17:28] <locojay> ActionParsnip: same 800x600 under display. shows gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> locojay: you will need to fight that file til you get a good display. I would try the Quantal release, it may help. Remove the xorg.conf file in case it causes issues
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> locojay: if you monitor was decent, it would report its abilities and the driver would load properly
[17:32] <locojay> don't have a display all via vnc
[17:33] <locojay> installing inxi to get better output
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> locojay: could try:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:35] <locojay> think i laready did . let me rerty
[17:37] <locojay> still galium
[17:38] <djxvillain> Hey, I don't know if I'm in the right spot, but I could use some help
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> djxvillain: if its ubuntu then yes :)
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> djxvillain  start with a question!
[17:39] <djxvillain> haha, okay great.
[17:40] <djxvillain> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu.  But just a few minutes I followed some commands I read in a forum and broke WINE.
[17:40] <djxvillain> I don't know how to undo the actions, or better yet, do them correctly.
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> djxvillain  try #winehq
[17:44] <djxvillain> This is the command I typed under /.wine/drive_c/Program Files (86)/ World of Warcraft
[17:44] <djxvillain> # __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS=1 WINEDEBUG=-all wine wow-64
[17:44] <bitethecoin> I got a problem: This device is not working on ubuntu 12.10 http://pastebin.com/H5tR8jMG
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> djxvillain  better: look for a linux equivalent for whatever you want to do
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> ok, WoW
[17:45] <djxvillain> I tried it, it didn't seem to work.  WoW still doesn't start.
[17:45] <jungle> log! jungle
[17:45] <jungle> logs ! jungle
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> djxvillain: ask in #winehq too
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !logs > jungle
[17:46] <djxvillain> Okay.  Thanks
[17:47] <jungle> MonkeyDust: thnx
[17:53] <amigamia> lala ladaia
[17:54] <amigamia> test
[17:55] <locojay> ActionParsnip: do you think a clean install of 12.04 will help since added the card passthrought after the install?
[17:58] <benth> what are good DE alternatives for ubuntu that aren't preinstalled?
[17:59] <thebishop> hey folks
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> benth  i'm testing equinox DE, it's very swift and fast
[18:01] <ewhrl> Under system settings->keyboard->shortcuts-navigation my redefined keyboard shortcut for minimizing normal windows is never saved after relogging, is there a fix for this?
[18:01] <thebishop> Under 12.10, the nautilus file chooser seems broken.  In several apps, my selected path is ignored and the app uses what it already decided as the default (typically home).  I've seen this in Deluge, Soundconverter, and Audacity
[18:01] <t0ken> hi, I've installed bind9 and setup some zones, the system seems to be ignoring my local dns server tho.  it goes to the public root servers first instead of looking locally.  Any idea how to make dns requests check locally first?
[18:02] <Nightwatch> I installed vnstat to see why box was moving slow. Found that my rx: is 50 Mbits/s - is there a way to track down what program/connection is using that much bandwidth
[18:02] <t0ken> Nightwatch: iptraf, I think will do that
[18:03] <Nightwatch> thanks
[18:04] <mojtabam> Hi, I have installed ubuntu serve recently and for browsing web installed chromium, but I get the error: cannot open display
[18:04] <mojtabam> Does anybody know what should I do?
[18:04] <mojtabam> Hello
[18:04] <jrib> mojtabam: you need to be in X
[18:04] <mojtabam> How can I do that, because I am newbie
[18:05] <mojtabam> This is the first time I am running linux server and I am going to shift from windows to linux
[18:05] <jrib> mojtabam: install a desktop environment.  ubuntu-desktop is the default one.  Why did you install the server edition if you wanted a gui?
[18:05] <mojtabam> jrib: I do not want a gui, I want to run web server
[18:06] <locojay> what's the dist name of 12.10. 12.04 is precise
[18:07] <locojay> will give installing 12.10 a try via xen-create-image
[18:07] <mojtabam> jrib: Are you there?
[18:07] <tib> I tried to reinstall grub on my dual-boot windows7 computer after formatting c drive
[18:08] <tib> Now all I see is a 'grub > ' terminal
[18:08] <tib> And cant boot into windows
[18:08] <tib> :(
[18:08] <tib> Can I reset it to use the window's bootloader?
[18:08] <mojtabam> Hi, I have installed ubuntu serve recently and for browsing web installed chromium, but I get the error: cannot open display
[18:08] <DrGrov> Hi everyone
[18:08] <tib> Please help
[18:08] <mojtabam> Hi, I have installed ubuntu serve recently and for browsing web installed chromium, but I get the error: cannot open display
[18:08] <jrib> mojtabam: you need a gui to use chromium.
[18:09] <jrib> mojtabam: chromium is a graphical application
[18:09] <mojtabam> jrib: how can I surf the web without using gui?
[18:09] <locojay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423681/
[18:09] <jrib> !quantal | locojay
[18:09] <mojtabam> and how can I uninstall the chromium?
[18:09] <jrib> mojtabam: you can use something like w3m, links2, lynx, etc.
[18:09] <jrib> !apt | mojtabam
[18:09] <tib> jrib: Can I reconfigure my system to use the Windows bootloader, and not grub?
[18:09] <Guest83098> yeh lynx ftw
[18:09] <locojay> thanks
[18:10] <jrib> tib: I doubt it
[18:10] <io___> hi i am stuck at the os login animartion after upgrading to 12.10, i can access a fnctional os only with safe mode / root access startx
[18:10] <jrib> tib: I don't know for sure though
[18:10] <DrGrov> I wonder if this is right or not. I got linux-headers-generic and linux-headers-3.5.0.19.30-generic installed. Should I just have one of the linux-source and linux-headers-generic in order to get nVidia working?=
[18:10] <DrGrov> I am quite sure I have one too many :D
[18:10] <dcherniv> edbrowse ftw
[18:10] <tib> jrib: Can I make grub detect my windows installation?
[18:10] <jrib> tib: well, you can use the windows bootloader.  But I don't think you'll be able to boot ubuntu then
[18:10] <dcherniv> edbrowse has javascript
[18:10] <tib> jrib: That's alright..
[18:11] <bitethecoin> Do anyone here have Crossover working on Ubuntu 12.10 amd64?
[18:11] <tib> jrib: I think my ubuntu installation is messed up anyway.
[18:11] <jrib> tib: ##windows can help you reinstalling the windows bootloader.  You can also troubleshoot grub here, but I can't personally do so at the moment
[18:11] <freedomrun> hello. where is status bar on the bottom of nautilus in 13.04??!
[18:11] <mojtabam> jrib: how can I surf the web without gui and how can I uninstall the chromium.
[18:11] <dcherniv> DrGrov, headers package is enough, but you're right either source or headers would do. Source is much bigger download though
[18:12] <jrib> mojtabam: see my last two responses to you
[18:12] <tib> jrib: Thanks
[18:12] <blami> freedomrun: I don't have any statusbar even in 12.10
[18:12] <DrGrov> dcherniv: I have been struggling with getting the proper resolution for my LG TV now for the past 20 hours almost. I am about to give up soon.
[18:13] <freedomrun> blami, ?? you mean you cannot enable it under "View"??
[18:13] <mojtabam> jrib: how can I surf the web without gui and how can I uninstall the chromium?
[18:13] <blami> freedomrun: ah I can
[18:13] <blami> freedomrun: I think it was removed from upstream
[18:13] <jrib> mojtabam: I already answered this.  Use w3m, links2 or lynx.  You can uninstall chromium with apt-get remove.  See ubottu for detailed information.
[18:13] <blami> freedomrun: it was disabled even in upstream gnome3 for some time
[18:14] <amigamia> wow
[18:14] <blami> freedomrun: maybe ubuntu developers patch nautilus to include it again. Look if there are any bugs/rfes on that topic open
[18:14] <freedomrun> blami, do you know will there be alternative to the upstream in ubuntu or?
[18:14] <amigamia> for some time you proclaim?
[18:14] <amigamia> wow
[18:14] <DrGrov> dcherniv: The strange thing is that I got it a few times right in 12.04 by "accident" after reboot. But I could not write the xorg.conf in /etc/X11 so I lost it after boot every single time. What do you think? Could I install 12.04 again and make an empty xorg.conf in /etc/X11 and hope it writes it there once it locks into 1920x1080?
[18:14] <mojtabam> thank you all
[18:15] <blami> amigamia: at least in 12.04 and fedora 16 + 17 is disabled by default
[18:15] <amigamia> egads
[18:15] <amigamia> forsooth
[18:15] <amigamia> how dare thy
[18:15] <blami> amigamia: I was talking about being disabled by default, not about being removed
[18:15] <dcherniv> DrGrov, with the TV connected pastebin output of xrandr
[18:16] <amigamia> what shall we do!
[18:16] <blami> amigamia: this is stupidity of gnome, lets remove it completely rather than make toggle for those who are used to
[18:16] <DrGrov> dcherniv: Okay, will do.
[18:16] <amigamia> ! we should organize a protest!
[18:16] <blami> freedomrun: there was nautilus fork living somewhere in wild
[18:17] <blami> amigamia: no we should write an open letter first
[18:17] <DrGrov> dcherniv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423705/
[18:17] <ProfessorBacon> all over myself
[18:18] <amigamia> yiou should clean the grease up from yourself first before you drip your drippings bacon man
[18:18] <freedomrun> blami, not shure if ading "nemo" from mint will have impact on system stability need to digg that arround
[18:19] <amigamia> i am righting the writing right now blami
[18:20] <t0ken> hi, I've installed bind9 and setup some zones, the system seems to be ignoring my local dns server tho.  it goes to the public root servers first instead of looking locally.  Any idea how to make dns requests check locally first?
[18:20] <dcherniv> DrGrov, tv connected and on?
[18:21] <DrGrov> dcherniv: Yes, that is my screen.
[18:21] <dcherniv> DrGrov, what does glxinfo say?
[18:21] <DrGrov> dcherniv: Okay, I will paste it.
[18:21] <blami> freedomrun: not sure ... I saw some time ago a question on askubuntu about integrating nemo to unity, answer was it is possible but it does not look as good as nautilus ...
[18:22] <dcherniv> t0ken, what does your /etc/resolv.conf say?
[18:22] <tib> `# dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1` will delete grub and reset to default Windows7 bootloader?
[18:22] <blami> freedomrun: I perosnally don't care about statusbar. As long as they don't cripple gnome-terminal I am good :)
[18:23] <DrGrov> dcherniv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423714/
[18:24] <freedomrun> blami, personally :) neither do I (Sakura here f10 working on mc .. hehe) but there are some other maybe new users and status bar where showing them free space left
[18:24] <llutz> tib: that will overwrite the MBR and since there is no bootmanager in the MBR then, the system should try to boot from 1st marked-as-bootable partition found
[18:25] <heoyea_> just reinstall ur bootloader
[18:25] <amigamia> I can't seem to locate the Hoary release support channel?  Which one is it?
[18:26] <OerHeks> freedomrun, you better join #ubuntu+1 for raring issues
[18:26] <dcherniv> DrGrov, something wrong with the driver
[18:26] <freedomrun> OerHeks, I am there, thnx for the info
[18:26] <DrGrov> dcherniv: I think I better remove and purge all linux-source, linux-headers-generic, nvidia-current and try from scratch.
[18:26] <dcherniv> DrGrov, drop to console with CTRL+ALT+F1 and rerun nvidia-installer*.run as roo
[18:26] <dcherniv> t
[18:27] <blami> freedomrun: I switched from fedora to ubuntu because ubuntu devs care about user experience and polished look. I believe there will be patch to retain that functionality or other way to tell new users about free space. To me unity is gold because it does not change from the ground with every new release ...
[18:27] <amigamia> i remember when ubuntu sent out boxes of cd's of all versions.. seems now it's all mixed up. i suspect that microsoft has payed off the south amerikanner after his magical mystery tour in space has sold out...what i think anyway.
[18:27] <DrGrov> dcherniv: I have not used a nvidia-installer.run. But I could go and download one and hopefully get it working that way. But I should purge all extra stuff first.
[18:27] <tib> It did nothing
[18:27] <tib> :(
[18:27] <tib> There is no change
[18:27] <DrGrov> Would it be possible to lock myself into one specific kernel?
[18:27] <dcherniv> DrGrov, its safe to keep the headers package, just delete linux-source
[18:28] <DrGrov> dcherniv: I got two linux-source.
[18:28] <dcherniv> DrGrov, remove all things related to nvidia from the package manager
[18:28] <DrGrov> dcherniv: I think I purge also just in case.
[18:28] <dcherniv> DrGrov, download the .run from nvidia.com and run it as root from the console
[18:28] <amigamia> i have a theory on what has happ3ened wtih ubuntu
[18:29] <dcherniv> DrGrov, remember generic is a virtual package that depends on latest updated package
[18:29] <dcherniv> DrGrov, ie linux-source-generic will always pull with it linux-source-3.x.y.z-W
[18:29] <blami> dcherniv: isn't there driver provided by ubuntu itself?
[18:29] <t0ken> dcherniv: it was resolv.conf   was a typo.  127.0.1.1 != 127.0.0.1
[18:29] <t0ken> doh
[18:29] <dcherniv> blami, yes there is
[18:30] <blami> dcherniv: installing it like this will break his xorg with every each kernel upgrade
[18:30] <dcherniv> blami, thats why there's dkms
[18:30] <dcherniv> blami, it works with third-party modules too
[18:31] <blami> dcherniv: aha
[18:31] <DrGrov> dcherniv: I will purge everything now and write down a few lines in a text document so I can view it before I run from a terminal.
[18:31] <blami> dcherniv: I have nvidia drivers installed in /opt because it is only way to retain intel working on nvidia optimus laptops :/
[18:33] <DrGrov> dcherniv: Any good way to purge and delete completely? I got two linux kernels. 3.7.0-5.13 and 3.5.0-19.30
[18:33] <DrGrov> dcherniv: I would not be surprised the conflict has to do with me having two at the same time.
[18:33] <virgo> hi, i have this gnome launcher bar (not sure if i name it correctly) and its full of icons, i need more rows/columns to it, but i dont know how
[18:33] <virgo> its on left side of the screen
[18:33] <DrGrov> dcherniv: I enabled a 3rd party PPA that might have had helped. But apparently that pulled down that 3.7.0-5.13 kernel.
[18:34] <amigamia> wow 12-12-12 is almost here... i thougt i was wondering about 12-21-12 however i deeply contemplated the trickery of the trickery. so on 12-12-12 @ 12:12:12 at exactly 12 steps you will know :)
[18:35] <DrGrov> dcherniv: Does it matter actually if I have many linux kernels and headers installed?
[18:35] <heoyea_> u can have as many as u want
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  use the 3rd party app 'ubuntu-tweak' to remove them (ubuntu-tweak.com)
[18:36] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: Ah, yes. That might be a good idea. After that I purge and delete the nvidia-current and everything nVidia and then go into ttyl1 and install.
[18:37] <ubkrux> hey trying to install wireless drivers with no success :(.. i am running 12.10 64bit.. i have 2 different wireless cards i am attempting to install.. i tried using ndiswrapper -i file.inf but not sure what else i am missing
[18:39] <amigamia> your not wirelessly by default connecting ubkrux?
[18:39] <Dark_Haseo> my ubuntu crashes constantly :/
[18:39] <ubkrux> no i am using rj45 ethernet connection right now..
[18:39] <amigamia> dark are you running raw or via windows and what version?
[18:39] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: Is there anything that might conflict badly after I remove the with Ubuntu Tweak? That something gets "left behind"?
[18:39] <Dark_Haseo> i have dualboot
[18:40] <Dark_Haseo> an cinnamon as default desktop
[18:40] <Dark_Haseo> but in unity crashes aswell
[18:40] <amigamia> is windows a partition?
[18:40] <ikonia> cinnamon is provided by a 3rd party PPA,
[18:40] <Dark_Haseo> yes
[18:40] <amigamia> what version?
[18:40] <Dark_Haseo> win 7
[18:40] <ikonia> (and supported by that person)
[18:41] <amigamia> oh god
[18:41] <Dark_Haseo> :/
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  ubuntu-tweak removes what's left behind' - it may no longer be available on their website, check the 3rd party repo
[18:41] <amigamia> do you have automatic updating enable? i pray not
[18:41] <ubkrux> im thinking it has to do with the 64bit..
[18:41] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: I got it for precise ;-)
[18:41] <Dark_Haseo> only when i say yes yo updates
[18:41] <Dark_Haseo> to*
[18:42] <amigamia> you ddidnt update did you?
[18:42] <Dark_Haseo> well yes -.-
[18:42] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: Probably I just go into Software Settings and make sure I have Noveau selected and then remove everything with Ubuntu Tweak and jump into ttyl1 and install that nVidia driver?
[18:42] <Dark_Haseo> i dualboot from grub
[18:43] <amigamia> do you have recovery boot options from grub btw?
[18:43] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: How is it with linux-headers then and linux-source? They will be available still after Ubuntu Tweak cleans up?
[18:43] <GunArm> i downloaded a thingie, and when I try to run it i get the error: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.47.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.  Any suggestions?  Do I need to install a package?
[18:43] <Dark_Haseo> i dualboot from grub <--
[18:43] <Dark_Haseo> ubuntu's grub
[18:43] <amigamia> ok again do you have version levels to recover from from the grub prompt?
[18:44] <Dark_Haseo> D: dont know
[18:44] <Dark_Haseo> for windows of ubuntu
[18:44] <Dark_Haseo> ?
[18:44] <Dark_Haseo> i always clean old kernel
[18:44] <amigamia> but you did that recent update for windows 7y...
[18:44] <Dark_Haseo> whit ubuntu tweak
[18:44] <amigamia> there was a recent update overnight for w7
[18:45] <Dark_Haseo> i dont think is related to windows
[18:45] <amigamia> ok
[18:45] <Dark_Haseo> is a diferent partition
[18:45] <amigamia> ok
[18:45] <Dark_Haseo> diferent filesystem
[18:45] <Dark_Haseo> etc
[18:45] <amigamia> let me check brb :)
[18:46] <Dark_Haseo> D; it may be to much ppas
[18:46] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: Okay, system is clean now. How then with the linux-headers and linux-source now?
[18:46] <Dark_Haseo> does ubuntu has its own sources for gnome3 ?
[18:47] <Dark_Haseo> patched ones?
[18:47] <|Anthony|> i just crashed and had some "Untitled Documents" open in gedit... is there a way to recover them?
[18:48] <heoyea_> nope
[18:49] <Dark_Haseo> how do i install nvidia drivers 310 from desktop
[18:49] <Dark_Haseo> it keeps telling me  i have to close x server
[18:49] <|Anthony|> it does autosave every 3 min though. where does it store that data
[18:49] <heoyea_> kill lightdm
[18:50] <heoyea_> where u saved to
[18:50] <Gnea> !nvidia | Dark_Haseo
[18:51] <Dark_Haseo> i have te .run file from nvidia
[18:52] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: then you're doing it wrong.
[18:52] <Dark_Haseo> D:
[18:52] <amigamia> grazie heoyea :)
[18:52] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: you *must* do it the Ubuntu way or it will break your system and won't work.
[18:52] <theadmin> When running Emacs in X, instead of the regular white background I have a strange-looking grey one, and the scrollbar is suddenly on the left side, what gives?
[18:53] <theadmin> Not too much of a problem but somewhat odd/annoying
[18:53] <alien2050> anthony: maybe check /tmp
[18:53] <Dark_Haseo> and for debian :/
[18:53] <Dark_Haseo> how
[18:53] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: instructions have already been provided, please read them.
[18:53] <|Anthony|> alien2050, doesn't /tmp get wiped on boot
[18:54] <alien2050> anthony: yep, I didnt follow the whole conversation, didn't know you had rebooted already...
[18:54] <theadmin> Dark_Haseo: In short, open the "jockey-gtk" app, or "jockey-kde" if you're on a Qt-based desktop, and use it to install the drivers
[18:54] <Dark_Haseo> how do i see crash log files
[18:54] <Dark_Haseo> i did
[18:54] <Dark_Haseo> already
[18:55] <Dark_Haseo> idk if the same version
[18:55] <Dark_Haseo> that nvidia.run
[18:55] <virgo> how can i add more gnome 3 taskbars, i only have one bar on the left side of the screen with full of launcher icons
[18:55] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: did you install the nvidia.run?
[18:55] <Dark_Haseo> no
[18:56] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: good, then delete it.
[18:56] <Dark_Haseo> does not let me
[18:56] <Dark_Haseo> ok
[18:56] <Dark_Haseo> i have other problems
[18:56] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: let's check some things first
[18:56] <theadmin> virgo: That's the Unity dock, you can't really add another one
[18:56] <Dark_Haseo> my system crashes ramdomly
[18:56] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: open a terminal and type this: lsb_release -r
[18:56] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: what is the result?
[18:57] <Dark_Haseo> is precise
[18:57] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: okay. is it a laptop or desktop?
[18:57] <Dark_Haseo> desktop
[18:57] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: self-made or did someone like dell or hp make it?
[18:58] <virgo> omg, so i should install like separate widget for another launcher-bar?
[18:58] <Dark_Haseo> self made
[18:58] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: are you overclocking?
[18:58] <Dark_Haseo> nop
[18:59] <theadmin> virgo: Unity doesn't have any "widgets" as a matter of fact. You might want to use Xfce or Gnome's Fallback mode for a gnome2-like experience
[18:59] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: when's the last time it crashed and why do you think it happened?
[18:59] <theadmin> !notunity | virgo
[18:59] <Dark_Haseo> virgo: u can install conky or screenlets
[18:59] <Dark_Haseo> ramdomly about 1  hour
[19:00] <Dark_Haseo> i dont have any idea
[19:00] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: do you have a fan and heatsink on your cpu?
[19:00] <OerHeks> Dark_Haseo, you mentioned cinnamon desktop, could that be the cause of your problems?
[19:00] <Dark_Haseo> i have a thermaltake ruby orb
[19:00] <Dark_Haseo> my cpu is a athlonx2 6400+
[19:01] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: is it clean?
[19:01] <Dark_Haseo> i dont think so
[19:01] <Dark_Haseo> in clean ubuntu happens aswell
[19:01] <Dark_Haseo> even whit novou drivers
[19:01] <Mike3620> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mike3620 <-- join up with me on linkedin peoples. I need Ubuntu jobs.
[19:01] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: well, a  buildup of dust and such on the heatsink will cause the fan to not pull much heat off of the cpu, resulting in overheating, which likely causes the system to shut itself off or do wonky things.
[19:01] <Pici> Mike3620: Please don't spam here.
[19:02] <Mike3620> it's not spam I only posted it once.
[19:02] <Gnea> Mike3620: it IS spam, this is not the correct forum for it.
[19:02] <theadmin> Mike3620: It's spam if it's not related to any support issue.
[19:02] <Pici> Mike3620: Its an unsolicited URL.
[19:02] <Dark_Haseo> i need new thermal paste but
[19:02] <Dark_Haseo> it crashes only on unbuntu
[19:02] <Gnea> Dark_Haseo: yes, using thermal paste is required as well
[19:02] <Dark_Haseo> tested arch and windows
[19:03] <Dark_Haseo> fedora
[19:03] <Dark_Haseo> only ubuntu crashes so badley
[19:03] <n-iCe> is there a way to create a booteable xp usb iso?
[19:03] <Dark_Haseo> n-ice google it
[19:04] <h00k> Dark_Haseo: you may want to review our !guidelines on helping support people in the channel
[19:04] <h00k> !guidlines > Dark_Haseo
[19:04] <theadmin> n-iCe: Yes, search for "winusb"
[19:04] <h00k> !guidelines > Dark_Haseo
[19:04] <theadmin> Err...
[19:04] <theadmin> I suppose that's bit too generic.
[19:05] <h00k> also, n-iCe: Please check ##windows for Windows support
[19:05] <theadmin> n-iCe: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html - here you go
[19:06] <Dark_Haseo> isnt this channel for ubuntu related ? oly
[19:06] <theadmin> Dark_Haseo: Well, we're talking about creating the stick on Ubuntu and the process differs a lot, so...
[19:06] <Drgrov> Now I can not seem to remember the syntax. I am in tty1 and made sudo chmod +x NVIDIA....
[19:06] <Drgrov> But now can not remember how to run it.
[19:06] <Dark_Haseo> my bad
[19:06] <Drgrov> sudo sh /.NVID?
[19:07] <ikonia> Drgrov: are you sure you want to run it ?
[19:07] <heoyea_> sudo sh nvidia.run
[19:07] <Drgrov> ikonia: Of course I want to run it. Why not?
[19:07] <ikonia> Drgrov: because it will install something outside of the ubuntu package manager which interacts with the kernel
[19:07] <theadmin> Drgrov: Because you don't use the official Nvidia installer to install NVidia drivers on Ubuntu
[19:07] <theadmin> Well, normally, anyway
[19:07] <BlueEagle> Drgrov: More likely is `./NVIDIA` as . indicates the current directory
[19:08] <Drgrov> I enabled xdagers or something PPA to get the latest linux kernel.
[19:08] <ikonia> why ?
[19:08] <Drgrov> So I have the "latest" kernel. This is the last thing I test and then I give up.
[19:08] <ikonia> why have you done that
[19:08] <ikonia> why do you need the latest kernel
[19:09] <Drgrov> ikonia: Well, read the bloody logs and see how long I have been struggling with getting the beautiful stock nVidia drivers on ubuntu to work properly and you understand.
[19:09] <theadmin> "Latest" is far not always "greatest", Drgrov. Using a kernel that's outside Ubuntu's official repositories can be even dangerous, if I understand right, this channel can't support such a setup.
[19:09] <ikonia> Drgrov: drop the attitude, I'm just trying to understand and stop you making a mess of your system
[19:09] <Dark_Haseo> it is save to install ubuntu from a multiboot usb¿
[19:09] <theadmin> Dark_Haseo: If you mean "safe", then sure, why not
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> Dark_Haseo  yes, i use multiSystem to that end, find it on the pendrive website
[19:10] <Drgrov> ikonia: Yeah, you know what... Drop the attitude is something you can tell someone else. Been messing with this for the past 25 hours almost. So I am fed up. Nothing more. But I do understand what you mean.
[19:10] <h00k> Dark_Haseo: if you can verify the install image, then sure
[19:10] <locojay> mmh install 12.10 did not help . i get the application compiz has closed unexpectedly
[19:10] <h00k> !verify | Dark_Haseo
[19:10] <Drgrov> but when the things do not work as intended I have to test this at least :)
[19:10] <ikonia> Drgrov: no, you don't
[19:10] <ikonia> you have to work it through logically
[19:10] <Drgrov> theadmin: Fine :)
[19:10] <ikonia> and I'm telling you to drop the attitude, not someone else
[19:11] <ikonia> Drgrov: do you have an unusual card ?
[19:11] <ikonia> Drgrov: what problems have you had with it
[19:11] <Dark_Haseo> i tryed to install ubuntu 12.10 on my brothers pc , the installers freezes on region/country select menu
[19:11] <locojay> 12.10 did therefore not recognize the intel hd 3000 as it as unity problems
[19:11] <Drgrov> ikonia: I have a perfectly normal nVidia GTS250 1GB PCI-E 16X. Had it working perfectly in 10.04. I do not get my screen resolution to show up as 1920x1080.
[19:12] <theadmin> locojay: Uh... Unity needs proper 3D acceleration, Intel cards seriously lack that sometimes
[19:12] <ikonia> Drgrov: ok, so have you checked if that card is still supported in the current later drivers ?
[19:12] <Drgrov> ikonia: Yes, it is supported. It recognizes it.
[19:12] <ikonia> Drgrov: (what recognises it)
[19:13] <Drgrov> ikonia: nVidia.com shows the latest 310.19 that is supporting my GTS250.
[19:13] <locojay> how can i login to see that it at least got the intel card . under 12.04 i had so something different
[19:13] <ikonia> Drgrov: ok, great, so what versions ship with the ubuntu version you are using
[19:13] <mastershake> hey guys, for some reason youtube and all video streaming isnt working for me right now, its happened before, restarting doesnt work, switching browsers doesnt either. what can i do?
[19:13] <Drgrov> ikonia: 310.19
[19:13] <theadmin> locojay: 12.04 had support for Unity-2D, it was dropped in 12.10. Try another desktop, maybe. Xfce is something I'd recommend
[19:14] <theadmin> mastershake: In about any browser, try going to "about:plugins" and see if you find the Flash Player there.
[19:14] <ikonia> Drgrov: ahh perfect, so ubuntu ships with 310.19 and nvidia.com says it supports it
[19:14] <Dark_Haseo> hook: i tryed to install ubuntu 12.10 on my brothers pc , the installers freezes on region/country select menu
[19:14] <ikonia> Drgrov: so walk me through what happened next ?
[19:14] <locojay> still have 12.04 but there i can get the intel to be recognized . not use if 12.10 did?
[19:14] <mastershake> theadmin: ITS THERE
[19:14] <mastershake> theadmin: *its there
[19:14] <locojay> anyway i can check via root ssh
[19:15] <Gnea> Drgrov: do you see the 310 package if you type this into a terminal:  apt-cache search nvidia
[19:15] <theadmin> mastershake: Hm, okay... Is it enabled?
[19:15] <mastershake> theadmin: well, it just says flash.
[19:15] <mastershake> shockwave flash
[19:15] <theadmin> mastershake: Ah, okay, well that's the right one anyway
[19:15] <theadmin> mastershake: Are you on 32- or 64-bit, and which Ubuntu version?
[19:15] <mastershake> 64 12.10
[19:16] <Drgrov> ikonia: Yes. So I checked I had noveau enabled and not a propreiatay nvidia. I installed the nvidia-current but did not help at all. Then I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current even after I had linux-headers and linux-source installed. No luck there either.
[19:16] <Drgrov> Gnea: I see it. I see nvidia-current, nvidia-current-updates, nvidia-experimental. Both 304 and 310 it seems.
[19:16] <ikonia> Drgrov: ok, so did you verify you have noveau ?
[19:16] <Gnea> Drgrov: okay, is nvidia-experimental-310 installed?
[19:16] <mastershake> theadmin: it was working normally before. idk why it does this
[19:17] <theadmin> mastershake: I still haven't gotten my hands on 12.10, but, eh, try running this: "apturl apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=quantal-partner"
[19:17] <Drgrov> ikonia: Yes, that is what I said that I had only noveau installed once I did sudo dkpg reconfigure nvidia-current.
[19:17] <Drgrov> Gnea: No, it is not installed. Should I maybe try and install that experimental instead?
[19:17] <ikonia> Drgrov: how did you verify it was using noveau
[19:17] <Gnea> Drgrov: since that seems to be the ONLY semi-official ubuntu branding of the 310 driver, I would say yes.
[19:18] <Drgrov> ikonia: I went into System Software (might be wrong spelling, can not see) and then pressed Additional Drivers and it said there was no Properiatary Driver in use,.
[19:18] <Gnea> I say 'semi-official' since it's considered 'unstable' :-)
[19:18] <ikonia> Drgrov: ok, so thats not a good way to verify, but I understand why you did that
[19:19] <ikonia> Drgrov: what is your current status ?
[19:19] <Drgrov> Gnea: Okay. I do not actually mind as long as I get some decent screen resolution and not stuck with some utterly pathetic 800x600 and some times 1360x768.
[19:19] <Gnea> Drgrov: well, try it out and see what happens. Also, get rid of any other drivers that might be trying to load at the same time.
[19:20] <Drgrov> ikonia: The current status is that I removed everything associated with nVidia + linux-headers-generic. I only have now that untested kernel in use. 3.7.xx something.
[19:20] <xx> uhuh
[19:20] <xx> :)
[19:20] <Gnea> 3.6.9 is the latest, according to kernel.org
[19:20] <xx> right ont drgrov
[19:21] <ikonia> Drgrov: so I'd suggest dropping back to everything stable, removing anything from a PPA
[19:21] <mastershake> theadmin: quantal-partner is not known
[19:21] <ikonia> then working forward
[19:21] <Drgrov> ikonia: Okay, I will go back into GUI and install the officially supported kernels back.
[19:21] <Drgrov> Brb
[19:21] <Gnea> Drgrov: I agree with ikonia: you're trying to get something to work on an untested platform that you haven't gotten to work before.
[19:21] <ikonia> Drgrov: not just install the old stuff, remove anything to do with a PPA
[19:23] <mastershake> theadmin: its telling me "the channel quantal partner is not known"
[19:23] <hdtdi> hi guys  i have ati radeon xpress 256mb, intel dual core 1.6ghz, i got 2gb ddr ram. is the latest ubuntu going to run flawless or i should install older version ?
[19:23] <DrGrov> ikonia: Okay, now I am stuck with 848xsomething and do not see anything.
[19:23] <DrGrov> ikonia: Okay, now I am stuck with 848xsomething and do not see anything.
[19:23] <DrGrov> ikonia: So, how to proceed now?
[19:24] <ikonia> DrGrov: you've removed all PPA software ?
[19:24] <qasim> hi
[19:24] <DrGrov> ikonia: I am about to do that now.
[19:24] <ikonia> then why are you asking me what to do ?
[19:24] <ikonia> I told you to remove all PPA software and put it back to stable
[19:24] <ikonia> you've not done that yet....so there is no point in any more discussion
[19:24] <mastershake> hey guys, for some reason youtube and all video streaming isnt working for me right now, its happened before, restarting doesnt work, switching browsers doesnt either. what can i do?
[19:24] <DrGrov> ikonia: You are in a bit of cranky mood aren't you? :)
[19:24] <b14d3> hdtdi: What will you be doing with it?
[19:24] <ikonia> DrGrov: no, not at all
[19:25] <qasim> i have downloaded xubuntu 12.10 but when i try to write the image on a CD it does not do it properly
[19:26] <mastershake> hey guys, for some reason youtube and all video streaming isnt working for me right now, its happened before, restarting doesnt work, switching browsers doesnt either. what can i do?
[19:26] <hdtdi> b14d3, watching movies, run some apache and mysql (for my own purposes its not going to be online), chat..
[19:26] <qasim> is there any procedure to burn CD in ubuntu 6.06?
[19:27] <mastershake> hey guys, for some reason youtube and all video streaming isnt working for me right now, its happened before, restarting doesnt work, switching browsers doesnt either. what can i do?\
[19:27] <DrGrov> ikonia: Okay, good. I am lost actually a bit with restoring. How can I easily see what is from a 3rd party PPA and what is stock?
[19:27] <ikonia> DrGrov: there is a tool called "ppapurge" however I don't have %100 confidence in it
[19:28] <ikonia> DrGrov: depending on what's installed by the PPA depends on how I normally look at removing what's been changed
[19:28] <ikonia> it's worth looking at ppapurge though
[19:28] <b14d3> hdtdi: The only thing that concerns me would be watching movies. Everything else should be fine, the low card ram makes me nervous. Does it have the functionality to "borrow" from system ram too?
[19:28] <theadmin> ikonia: ppapurge merely removes the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list files related to the ppa, not the packages, right?
[19:28] <DrGrov> ikonia: I will just reinstall the whole thing. Put in 12.04 instead where I could at least get 1920x1080 to show up from time to time :)
[19:29] <ikonia> theadmin: no it does remove (or try to) remove the packages and re-apply the origional packages from the stable repo
[19:29] <ikonia> theadmin: it doesn't always work
[19:29] <theadmin> ikonia: Oh, cool :)
[19:29] <ikonia> hence me not having %100 confidence in it
[19:29] <mastershake> hey guys, for some reason youtube and all video streaming isnt working for me right now, its happened before, restarting doesnt work, switching browsers doesnt either. what can i do?\
[19:29] <ikonia> I know others feel pretty positive about it
[19:29] <DrGrov> ikonia: Could be easier to work from 12.04 forward to get it back?
[19:29] <ikonia> mastershake: a good start would be not asking the same questions 3 times in 5 minutes
[19:29] <locojay> under 12.04 i still only see Gallium 0.4 on llvm . unfortunatly vnc is redraws slowly. any other way to make things someth without having it recognize the intel graphics 3000
[19:29] <DrGrov> ikonia: Or working from 12.04 to get the resolution sticking as it should.
[19:29] <ikonia> DrGrov: I don't see a difference in 12.04/12.10 in terms of difficulty
[19:30] <xibalba> is it relatively trivial to get setup as an ubuntu mirror? I was thinking of doing so for our data center, going to try and measure the traffic to us.archive.ubuntu.com first to see if it's worthwhile
[19:30] <DrGrov> ikonia: No but I would keep it completely clean now then if I did install 12.04.
[19:30] <hdtdi> b14d3, i dont think so.. its ati radeon xpress 1100 .. kinda of a stupid video card..
[19:30] <ikonia> DrGrov: you would keep it clean if you did a 12.10 install
[19:30] <DrGrov> ikonia: Yes but I am worried I will never get 1920x1080 out in 12.10. Just in 12.04.
[19:31] <ikonia> that's your choice
[19:31] <b14d3> hdtdi: If that's your only problem, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Maybe some research on the card could be done, but I don't see any issues with the other functionality.
[19:31] <hdtdi> b14d3, i am nervous about the ram.. because its 2gb ddr.. and if i start apache,mysql, netbeans, skype, and a browser.. i guess its going to be preetyy slow
[19:31] <DrGrov> ikonia: Okay, I will be back within 30-45 minutes after I installed. Talk to you later.
[19:31] <hdtdi> is it not?
[19:31] <theadmin> DrGrov: I'd say stick to LTS releases, they are often more stable. You can upgrade directly to 14.04 when it's out, or if you have a microwave.
[19:31] <rymate1234> yay for ruining graphics preformance :o
[19:31] <DrGrov> theadmin: Okay :)
[19:31] <DrGrov> theadmin: Yes, that is probably why I kept with 10.04 that long.
[19:31] <rymate1234> anyone know the package name for the open source radeon graphics
[19:31] <DrGrov> Be back in a little while
[19:32] <OerHeks> xibalba, it is easy to setup a mirror, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[19:32] <rymate1234> that way I can stop using vesa >.<
[19:32] <b14d3> hdtdi: Skype was never mentioned :) Apache and MySQL running as largely background processes would be ok. I think overall it would be fine with those things too, ignoring of course the (what I suspect will be) the slow video play.
[19:32] <xibalba> OerHeks, do they use ANYCASTING?
[19:32] <OerHeks> xibalba, sorry, i don't know what anycasting is :(
[19:32] <mastershake> can anyone lend a helping hand???
[19:33] <rymate1234> hello?
[19:33] <qasim> please help me guys.. i have  downloaded xubuntu and now i want to burn the io image on a  cd but im unable to do it properly
[19:33] <rymate1234> anyone know the package name for the open source radeon graphics
[19:33] <theadmin> rymate1234: xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[19:33] <rwilson> I wrote a bash script that generates random ipv4 addresses in a while loop  how do i multithread the process of generating the addresses within the loop without creating an Infinit number of processes
[19:33] <rymate1234> thx
[19:33] <xibalba> OerHeks, real simple basically local manipulation of routing on a specific IP to redirect it internally or localized
[19:33] <hdtdi> b14d3, what is the default desktop environment ? isnt kde and gnome too heavy for my laptop ?
[19:34] <mastershake> qasim: everyone gets ignored here dont even bother asking
[19:34] <heoyea_> rwilson: maybe in the bash channel
[19:34] <BlueEagle> hdtdi: Ubuntus default is Gnome. Kubuntu has KDE and Xubuntu has XFCE4. Of those XFCE4 is the lightest.
[19:35] <b14d3> Thanks for that BlueEagle. I'm rusty on that, I almost entirely use CLI
[19:35] <qasim> is there anyone listening to me?
[19:35] <theadmin> BlueEagle: I'd say Lubuntu (with LXDE) is even lighter
[19:36] <BlueEagle> hdtdi: There is no problem in installing XFCE4 after running a regular Ubuntu installation. It will take up more harddisk space, but performance wise running XFCE4 from an Ubuntu installation that has been added Xubuntu-desktop is no different from a clean Xubuntu installation. At least I have not been able to detect a difference.
[19:36] <pid> I didnt chose a swap partition(didnt get how). is that a big problem? i have 4GB, want to runt hings like MPLABX(netbeans). I never got hwo to make the swap partition in the install
[19:36] <hdtdi> BlueEagle, so basically i can install xubuntu and it will be like ubuntu with a lighter dekstop environment?
[19:37] <BlueEagle> theadmin: You can say that. However Lubuntu is not an official Canonical product, is it?
[19:37] <theadmin> pid: It's not a problem to be honest, you won't be able to hibernate though
[19:37] <theadmin> BlueEagle: Already is acknowledged officially
[19:38] <b7r3b3L> hey guys.. i'm new here..
[19:38] <BlueEagle> hdtdi: That is correct. You will however note that a lot of applications will require Gnome or KDE spesific libraries. But these are installed automatically so you really don't have to think about it.
[19:38] <hdtdi> thank you for the help BlueEagle b14d3  :)
[19:38] <b7r3b3L> need help
[19:39] <b14d3> qasim: Yes. Sorry. A lot is currently going on (irl and irc) what was your question?
[19:39] <BlueEagle> b7r3b3L: Welcome. You may want to check out the link in the topic if you have questions.
[19:39] <b14d3> !ask | b7r3b3L
[19:39] <BlueEagle> theadmin: Sorry, that sentence does not make any sense.
[19:40] <BlueEagle> theadmin: And I appear to be wrong on the Canonical support.
[19:40] <theadmin> BlueEagle: Well basically if you ask a Lubuntu question in this channel you'll get an answer without anyone shoo-ing on you :P
[19:42] <b7r3b3L> WHAT IS THIS IRC.. i dont know anything abt it. a friend of mine suggested me to go on in it once..
[19:42] <winb> !irc
[19:42] <theadmin> b7r3b3L: This exact channel is support for the Ubuntu operating system.
[19:43] <b7r3b3L> got it.. how do we set/change a login screen for a GENOME
[19:43] <BlueEagle> b7r3b3L: Please read the link that ubottu sent you regarding the guidelines. In a gist it is a user support forum where you may ask questions. Typically people prefer that you have tried googling before asking here. Though that may just be me. Again, please read the links in /topic
[19:44] <BlueEagle> b7r3b3L: And changing the login screen for Gnome is typically something that is googlable and first hit is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10223
[19:44] <bandit-led> dont feed the trolls
[19:45] <theadmin> BlueEagle: That's outdated information, Ubuntu doesn't use GDM since Oneiric I think, and other releases don't use it since Quantal.
[19:45] <b7r3b3L> i tried it and succeded so far for enabling login screen through GDM. but customising the login screen with our own screens, i couldn't find a proper way
[19:46] <bandit-led> b7r3b3L, what are you wanting to change the backgronud?
[19:46] <bandit-led> background'
[19:46] <BlueEagle> b7r3b3L: I am sorry. The correct phrase to google is: change unity login screen
[19:47] <BlueEagle> theadmin: Thank you for pointing that out.
[19:47] <b7r3b3L> thanks for help.. will check it now
[19:47] <theadmin> BlueEagle: The new login manager is called "lightdm" so searching on that will bring better hits
[19:47] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[19:47] <raub> The asterisk-sounds-extra no longer exists. What was it replaced with?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> BlueEagle: not:  change lightdm background        as lightdm is the login manager?
[19:48] <BlueEagle> b7r3b3L: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-change-lightdm-login-screen.html was the 3rd hit.
[19:48] <bandit-led> http://askubuntu.com/questions/64001/how-do-i-change-the-wallpaper-in-lightdm
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> raub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423892/   maybe.....
[19:49] <BlueEagle> theadmin: Since you know this better than me, why don't you be so kind and help b7r3b3L along with this then?
[19:50] <theadmin> BlueEagle: I actually have no idea about it, I know there's a KCM which does it, but uh, dunno about any configurators for other desktops
[19:51] <JohnnNewb> Hello there I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this question. Unfortunately Ubuntu was giving me a error I could not fix after trying several times. I then proceeded to remove it and then reinstalled it. Is the original partition still there?
[19:51] <BoomerBile> I've just purchased 2 ssl certificates i'm going to activate... i have to choose from server types = apache openssl, apache modssl, apache raven, apache ssleasy, apache2 and apache + apache ssl.... which one does ubuntu ship with and how can i find out?
[19:51] <b14d3> JohnnNewb: Could be. It depends on the steps you took during installation.
[19:52] <b14d3> JohnnNewb: Well, reinstallation, as the case may be.
[19:52] <JohnnNewb> b14d3 Is there any way for me to check if it is still there?
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> BoomerBile  the repos have apache2
[19:53] <b14d3> You already have Ubuntu on there, functioning, right?
[19:54] <JohnnNewb> Yes using it now, so much better then Windows in some ways. But the reason I asked was because I had a error but I could not send a report because I did not have enough memory. This did not happen before.
[19:54] <BoomerBile> MonkeyDust, so choose apache2?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> BoomerBile  sounds the most obvious to me, but better ask in #ubuntu-server
[19:55] <goddard> vmware crashes
[19:55] <goddard> it did work before my update
[19:55] <b14d3> JohnnNewb: If you remember specific information about it you can do sudo fdisk -l and it iwll print out the different partitions
[19:56] <thor1> hi guys
[19:56] <b14d3> s/iwll/will/
 What kind of information? I ran gparted to check but since I am a newb I am not too sure at what I was looking at.
[19:57] <b14d3> JohnnNewb: Ah. That makes things slightly more complicated.
[19:57] <Zael> somebody want to help me troubleshoot an interesting issue? i just started receiving segmentation faults anytime i try to run anything
[19:57] <thor1> I need your help with a problem, wine can't run some aplications because it doesn't recognize my graphic card
[19:57] <Zael> i'm suprised irc is still working
[19:58] <JohnnNewb> I'm also not too sure how to use this chat so my apologies if you don't see a message. And I should have been more clear I jusr ran it now. With the reinstalled version of Ubuntu
[19:58] <thor1> I was searching on sinaptyc, and I finded that: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is marked like installed, also nvidia courrent
[19:58] <thor1> I need uninstall at definitly the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau?
[19:59] <BlueEagle> JohnnNewb: in a terminal type: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[19:59] <BlueEagle> JohnnNewb: It will ask you for the password and then give you a link like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423909/
[19:59] <BlueEagle> JohnnNewb: If it sais that it cannot find pastebinit you need to install it first.
[19:59] <Zael> anybody know if this could be because the drive remounted read-only on an error?
[19:59] <DrGrov> ikonia: Now I am running 10.04 as a completely fresh install. That is a relief :)
[20:00] <DrGrov> ikonia: I directly got "System program problem detected". I try to report problem and see what is the program causing it.
[20:00] <DrGrov> ikonia: /usr/bin/jockey-text is the first.
[20:01] <JohnnNewb> BlueEagle I ran the code? command? Got some information but I don't see a link anywhere
[20:01] <Zael> yeah, i'm getting either segmentation faults or input/output errors when trying to run anything but 'ps'
[20:01] <BlueEagle> JohnnNewb: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[20:01] <BlueEagle> JohnnNewb: You need to include |pastebinit
[20:01] <b14d3> JohnnNewb: Willing to bet you don't have pastebinit installed.
[20:01] <BlueEagle> JohnnNewb: note that | is a vertical bar, not a 1 or an l.
[20:02] <DrGrov> ikonia: The second is /usr/bin/jockey-gtk. I enabled at install to install updates while it installs. Are these two things connected somehow?
[20:03] <DrGrov> ikonia: Should I do all the upgrades now at once or wait until I get the nVidia running with correct display resolution?
[20:03] <Pici> Zael: boot from a live CD and see if you can get SMART data from the disk.
[20:04] <Johnn> BlueEagle my apologies something happened to the connection
[20:05] <tjbiddle> can i get apt-get to install a package without trying to finish up another package that failed earlier?
[20:06] <DrGrov> Who was the other person I was talking to about this whole nVidia thing? Sorry can not remember anymore, even though it is merely 20 minutes ago :(
[20:06] <Johnn> BlueEagle Could you give me the code again?
[20:07] <BlueEagle> Johnn: Not to worry. As I was saying. You need to include the |pastebinit so the command is `sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit` Note that the | is a vertical bar, not a 1, l, \ or /
[20:07] <DrGrov> Is it safe to install all those updates that come up in 12.04 after installing it? I am wondering if anything of that it installs is connected to my nVidia problem.
[20:08] <Emanon> So my screen keeps blanking after a period of inactivity even though I have it explicitly set not to do so. Is there something I can do to fix this?
[20:08] <BlueEagle> DrGrov: In general it is not safe to not install updates as more often than not they do contain security fixes.
[20:08] <nakkor> is this the right channel for a log rotate issue on 12 LTS?
[20:08] <BlueEagle> nakkor: Most likely.
[20:09] <Johnn> BlueEagle http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423933/ here you go. Thank You so much for your help.
[20:09] <DrGrov> BlueEagle: Okay, I was following just the instructions when I installed 12.04 just now. That it downloads them while I install.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Emanon: what make and model system (if it has one), what video chip?
[20:10] <BlueEagle> Johnn: Did you install using Wubi?
[20:10] <b14d3> Johnn: It looks ok, in general. Do you remember what partition information you had created before your reinstall?
[20:10] <nperea> hello
[20:10] <nperea> everybody
[20:10] <nperea> there is no rooms here???
[20:10] <Johnn> BlueEagle yes.
[20:10] <Pici> nperea: What?
[20:10] <b14d3> !irc | nperea
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> nperea: nope, only channels
[20:11] <Johnn> bl4d3 I just followed the instructions in Wubi I went with the suggestion they gave me
[20:11] <BlueEagle> Johnn: Then you need to boot windows and check the windows file system. Wubi installs the "partition" as a file in the windows partition. It is in that sense not a real partition.
[20:11] <DrGrov> ikonia: How should I proceed with this now then?
[20:11] <b14d3> I'm not familiar with the Wubi install, so I don't know if it would remove/delete any partitions during install.
[20:11] <Emanon> ActionParsnip: Asus G53J GeForce GTX 460M
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> b14d3: wubi installs ubuntu to a file on yourNTFS
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Emanon: can you please pastebin the output of:    sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[20:13] <b14d3> ActionParsnip: So in theory it shouldn't be doing ANYTHING with partitions. But would it's former partition information be kept on a reinstall?
[20:13] <Johnn> BlueEagle My apologies perhaps I'm using language to which I don't know the exact meaning. So perhaps there is no partition at all then?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> b14d3: it may have the c:\wubi folder still
[20:14] <b14d3> ActionParsnip: Much as I hate to ask, think you could convey that to Johnn? I don't want something to be lost in translation if I try.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Johnn: ^ read above
[20:14] <Emanon> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423944/
[20:14] <nperea> thanks you all ActionParsnip b14d3 and ubottu
[20:14] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Is that nVidia issues you asked for a pastebin output regarding direct rendering or screen resolution or even both?
[20:14] <BlueEagle> Johnn: Wubi creates the linux "parititon" as a file in the windows file system. You can perhaps think of it much like the windows swap file. Check C:\Ubuntu or C:\Wubildr* for more than one root.disk file.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Emanon: you don't have an inbuilt GPU in the CPU, this is good :)
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-experimental-310
[20:15] <Emanon> ActionParsnip: Yea it's a gaming desktop replacement laptop.
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Emanon: where did you get the driver from?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Emanon: the package you have is not from the main repos
[20:15] <Johnn> bl4d3 are you asking me? I suppose it is then
[20:15] <Emanon> The driver helper in Ubuntu 12.10
[20:16] <Emanon> ActionParsnip: In the sources tool.
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Emanon: have you tried the 304 driver instead?
[20:16] <Emanon> I will do so if you think it will help.
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Emanon: may help, its free too :)
[20:17] <Emanon> One moment while it applies.
[20:17] <Emanon> The 304 is Proprietary it says.
[20:18] <Emanon> Nouveau is the FOSS one.
[20:18] <Johnn> BlueEagle I only see one root.disk file
[20:18] <Emanon> But Nouveau doesn't handle my dual monitor setup properly for some strange reason.
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Emanon: yes, both the 310 an 304 are made by nvidia, the nouveau one is made by the community
[20:18] <BlueEagle> Johnn: Then you should be good.
[20:19] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Sorry for disturbing you. Could you perhaps assist me with the same kind of nVidia problem that Emanon has afterwards you are ready?
[20:19] <Johnn> Awesome : ] Another question I have if you don't mind. How come all of the documents from windows will not load in UBuntu? I have to go through Host User etc.. a bit of a hassle really. Is thera any shortcut?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: what's the issue?
[20:19] <Johnn> BlueEagle
[20:19] <Emanon> I had totally forgotten I was using the 310 (which I assume is less stable than the 304 and likewise for the 304 to the tested).
[20:20] <locojay> how can i kill x to run Xorg -configure?
[20:21] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: The issues is that I have had both 12.04 and 12.10 installed and never got the screen resolution to stick as it should. Not sure about direct rendering either. Now running 12.04 again from a completely fresh install where I wiped everything just to make sure. I have a LG 1080p 42" LCD TV which is at 1920x1080 60Hz and I can not get my nVidia GTS250 1GB PCI-E 16X GPU to get a higher resolution than 1360x768 even though I had 1920x1080@6
[20:21] <theadmin> locojay: sudo stop lightdm
[20:21] <Emanon> The driver has applied should I restart the machine or at least X to see a change or is it ok now?
[20:21] <BlueEagle> Johnn: You mean that you want ~/Documents to point to the same documents as you find in windows under c:\users\<username>\Documents?
[20:22] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I gotta restart after those 12.04 updates now are ready. The updates it downloaded while installing. I will be back in a little while.
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: have you tried using an xorg.conf file?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[20:22] <Johnn> BlueEagle Yes exactly. I suppose I have a bit to learn about Linux and Ubuntu. But I think it will be worth it I even donated some money when I downloaded it.
[20:23] <locojay> thanks
[20:23] <Emanon> ActionParsnip: Should I restart anything or is applying the driver enough?
[20:23] <Emanon> Also, thank you ActionParsnip.
[20:23] <BlueEagle> Johnn: You have two options. You can replace the ~/Documents directory with a link to the place where windows store the files or you can place a shortcut within ~/Documents to easier access the windows documents.
[20:23] <locojay> FATAL: Error inserting i915 (/lib/modules/3.2.0-34-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko): No such device
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Emanon: no worries :). Yes give a reboot a try
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: have you tried using an xorg.conf file?
[20:24] <Johnn> BLueEagle How would I go about with a shortcut within the documents?
[20:24] <Emanon> ActionParsnip: alright, brb.
[20:24] <BlueEagle> Johnn: If you go for the first option rename ~/Documents to ~/Documents.old and then run: ln -s /path/to/windows/docs ~/Documents
[20:25] <BlueEagle> Johnn: If you go for the second option run: ln -s /path/to/windows/docs ~/Documents/WinDocs
[20:25] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Yes, I have tried and actually got it somehow working after enabling the nVidia current drivers. But when I was running nvidia-settings I could not save to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Should I install synaptic now just in case, would perhaps make a lot of things easier?
[20:25] <Nightwatch> I installed vnstat to see why box was moving slow. Found that my rx: is 50 Mbits/s - is there a way to track down what program/connection is using that much bandwidth
[20:25] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I got the right resolution then at 1920x1080 but I after reboot it reverted back to 1360x768 and I had no choice to get 1920x1080 back.
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: run:   sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings        set the res and refresh rate to something
[20:25] <Johnn> BlueEagle could I replace the Documents with downloads music etcc to get the shortcuts to the other folders too?
[20:25] <BlueEagle> Johnn: You could also navigate to the windows document folder and right-drag it to your Documents folder and select "create link" or "create shortcut".
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: then run:   gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf      manually set the resolution to what you want
[20:26] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: How should I enable the nVidia drivers now? From additional drivers?
[20:26] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Or should I install synaptic and pick it from there?
[20:26] <BlueEagle> Johnn: Are you referring to the list on the left of the file browser?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: how would using synaptic be an different to useing software centre which is already installed?
[20:27] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Yes, that is true. I just am more comfortable with Synaptic since my 10.04 days. :)
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: you can run:   sudo apt-get install nvidia-current    to install te proprietary driver
[20:27] <Johnn> BlueEagle no the folders inside of the home folder. So for example documents to windows documents, music to the folder of windows music,  pictures to the windows folder etc
[20:27] <Emanon> Ok, ActionParsnip back, going to let it sit for a while and see if it blanks out.
[20:27] <BlueEagle> Johnn: In theory any file and directory in Linux can be replaced by a link to somewhere else. This is because linux handles links quite differently than windows.
[20:27] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Okay, will do that sudo apt-get install nvidia-current then and the same time install synaptic :)
[20:28] <BlueEagle> Johnn: `ln -s <target> <linkname>` creates a symbolic link to <target> called <linkname>. A symbolic link is close to what short cuts are in Windows.
[20:29] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Okay, I am now installing nvidia-current.
[20:29] <Johnn> BlueEagle oooh ok
[20:29] <Googol30> I'm back, and I need help again.  Still trying to get a static IP on Ubuntu Server 12.04 and everywhere I look says I have to change my DNS servers to something different, but no 2 points of reference are the same.
[20:29] <locojay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423975/
[20:29] <Googol30> Does this mean what I set as the DNS servers doesn't matter?
[20:30] <Johnn> BlueEagle I think those are all my questions! Thank You so much for your help!
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: you can run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[20:31] <Dretomgeo> I'm interested in creating music from the command line.  Does anyone know of software relating to that?
[20:31] <Nightwatch> I installed vnstat to see why box was moving slow. Found that my rx: is 50 Mbits/s - is there a way to track down what program/connection is using that much bandwidth
[20:31] <BlueEagle> Johnn: You are most welcome. And welcome to the linux world.
[20:31] <redheat> hi everyone...
[20:31] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Okay, I did sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and it is now installed. What next did you say?
[20:31] <Dretomgeo> Nightwatch: check out "nethogs"
[20:31] <Dretomgeo> Nightwatch: also, iftop
[20:32] <Johnn> BlueEagle Thank You !
[20:32] <Googol30> Do I need the quotes around "nameserver 8.8.8.8"?
[20:32] <Nightwatch> thanks Dre
[20:32] <Treadstone__71> Redheat hello
[20:32] <locojay> any other way to get vnc to work better than installing the intel driver? moving windows ... flickers
[20:32] <redheat> sorry for bothering you all, I have Ubuntu 12.10 installed and every time I start and login into ubuntu I get an error message saying :
[20:32] <redheat> hi Treadstone_71
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: if you reboot, is it ok?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: yes, run it as given.
[20:33] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I will reboot now to confirm. I have not done anything except sudo apt-get install nvidia-current.
[20:33] <ViaNocturna85> hello all
[20:33] <Treadstone__71> ViaNocturna85 Hello
[20:33] <redheat> Ubuntu has experienced an internal error..and when I look inside the problem: I get evolution/calendar/factory..
[20:33] <Dretomgeo> Salutations, ViaNocturna85.
[20:33] <locojay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1423990/
[20:33] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I will be right back. Rebooting now to confirm.
[20:33] <redheat> what's that all about?
[20:34] <Treadstone__71> redheat I'm not sure, I used to get it after an install but since I have updated I don't get it anymore.
[20:34] <redheat> I already have thunder bird as my main mail program, but when it comes to calendar it is set to evolution how to change that to evolution I already went inside
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> redheat: did you upgrade from Precise or is it a clean install?
[20:35] <redheat> a clean install ActionParsnip, hey, ...
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> redheat: are you fully updated?
[20:35] <redheat> yes sir I am
[20:35] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I should just open up Display from System Settings to confirm?
[20:35] <redheat> how do I get to set thunderbird as the default calendar program
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: running:  xrandr   will tell you the current res
[20:36] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Okay, will do.
[20:36] <ViaNocturna85> redheat: At the moment that's not possible, only Evolution I'm afraid
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> redheat: system settings -> details
[20:36] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Still stuck at 1360x768.
[20:36] <Dretomgeo> redheat: search around your menus for "software preferences" or soemthing like that.  I'm not on an Ubuntu computer right now, so I can;t verify.
[20:37] <ViaNocturna85> I had the calendar problem too but seems only gedit or Evolution are supported
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: ok, run:   sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings    set the res to something and click 'save to X config file', then run:  gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and set the res as you want
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> ViaNocturna85: where did you hear such nonesense?
[20:37] <thomasd> Hay could someone recommend a screen recorder and editing/voice over software for linux?
[20:37] <redheat> ViaNocturna85, you sure about that..ActionParsnip, and you too Dretomgea
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> ViaNocturna85: is it not an option in the settings?
[20:37] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Okay, will do.
[20:38] <redheat> I can't get to change it...and I don't know why?...
[20:38] <ViaNocturna85> ActionParsnip: through Google, AskUbuntu etx
[20:38] <ViaNocturna85> ActionParsnip: You'd think so right...nope
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> redheat: thats where you set the calendar app
[20:38] <redheat> ActionParsnip, I'm afraid it's like ViaNocturna85 said, the Calendar won't budge...
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> ViaNocturna85: weird could add lightning
[20:39] <Lofde_> trying to "sudo dpkg -i teamviewer* && sudo apt-get install -f" the teamviewer8 deb package i downloaded... its not wanting to install dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of teamviewer:i386: teamviewer:i386 depends on bash (>= 3.0)
[20:39] <Lofde_> any help?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> redheat: what options do you have?
[20:39] <Googol30> What do I do after echoing 8.8.8.8?  I know a decent amount of networking, but can someone tell me what DNS servers do, or what they are?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Lofde_: what is the outputof:   lsb_release -sc
[20:39] <heoyea_> Lofde_: install version 7
[20:39] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Aha! Now with that first command sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings I can get the resolution to 1920x1080.
[20:39] <ViaNocturna85> ActionParsnip: I don't know, I think if they give an option for integrated calendars they should at least link it to an app, whats the point otherwise
[20:40] <redheat> one more side question, if possible and please all three of you pardon me for taking so much of your time, two questions actually: If I enabled Virtualization through my BIOS, and I don't have virtual swhere oftware installed would that make my computer's performance faster? and the second question is
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: that file holds the DNS servers for the system.
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: DNS servers translate names to IP addresses
[20:40] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: So I click apply only then and quit?
[20:40] <Lofde_> heoyea_, all my new windows users are downloading 8 from teamviewer.com trust me i wish i could stay on 7
[20:41] <Googol30> Do I need to do anything else, or if my router is set up correctly, will I have internet?
[20:41] <redheat> where do I get to access the properties of my wireless adapter, I have a hp touchsmart tm2, with an intel a/b/g/ 1000 N wireless adapter...
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: yes, that will give you web access
[20:41] <redheat> is there a way to access that adapter properties, like we used to do in windows...
[20:41] <Lofde_> ActionParsnip, precise
[20:41] <Lofde_> 12.04 lts
[20:41] <heoyea_> Lofde_: 8 on linux doest work anyways
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> redheat: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you the wifi chip
[20:41] <Lofde_> theres a beta?
[20:42] <DrGrov> I did now gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf but I did not ask for any res.
[20:42] <barnaba> Hello. I rebooted my system and my ecryptfs private directory fails to mount. When I try to mount it from commandline I get: "mount: Operation not permitted". Kernel log seems to confirm that: " Reading sb failed; rc = [-1]","Mount of device (uid: 0) not owned by requested user (uid: 1000)". lsmod doesn't show ecryptfs loaded. "modprobe -v ecryptfs" returns 0, but the module still isn't loaded...
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: yes, then you can edit the xorg.conf file and set it as you wish
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: it won't ask you anything, its a text file.....
[20:42] <ViaNocturna85> redheat: for the wireless adapter, I would imagine if it is connected then clicking on the network settings then 'Edit Connections' and 'Mobile Broadband' should be what you are looking for?
[20:42] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Ah yes, I forget the text editor :)
[20:43] <Troy^> uhh hmm well seems like my 5870m does not support dual 1080p display
[20:43] <redheat> ViaNocturna85, no it's not a usb modem it's a PCI express card built in, ...
[20:43] <barnaba> I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and tried googling this, found some stuff about setuid (which I think is already set) and making sure module is loaded (it isn't, but I have no idea why).
[20:43] <ViaNocturna85> redheat: And it connects alright?
[20:43] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: So how do I set the resolution here then in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? With modeline or?
[20:44] <Lofde_> actually i think i know what i did  wrong..
[20:44] <Lofde_> one sec
[20:44] <redheat> yeah, no problem, I was only asking about the settings, I mean is there a graphical interface to that?
[20:44] <nakkor> Logrotate doesn't seem to be rotating on size. I have this file (http://pastebin.com/n7KuQyJh) in /etc/logrotate.d/node and have a script to flood that log. And it never rotates on size
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> redheat: settings in what way?
[20:46] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I mean, what should I edit in /etc/X11/xorg.conf now with gedit? You want a pastebin of it?
[20:46] <redheat> for example, when I went into Intel's website yesterday, and looked for that type of Wireless LAN card, they told, I should access the properties through the properties page, if you were using windows 7, and change things like, roaming aggressiveness, change the adapter to make it use the "N" technology..etc..these things you access it when you're using the
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: just edit the resolution in the screen section near the bottom of the file
[20:46] <redheat> windows properties page..
[20:47] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: There is no such thing. I will copy paste the pastebin for you.
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> redheat: you can do that stuff in the little icon on the top panel
[20:47] <Googol30> Am I allowed to run a Minecraft server from a flash drive without issue, or must I edit permissions, or copy all of the files somewhere else?
[20:47] <mazraq> Hi, I am trying to set up a vpn on Xubuntu 12.10
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: sure
[20:47] <mazraq> anyone can help?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> !vpn
[20:47] <redheat> by the way thank you ActionParsnip for the command, it gave me a list of the wireless card I got ...though it's a little bit jumbled for me now..
[20:48] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1424019/
[20:48] <redheat> nope not here..I mean not in linux? haven't seen that..is there a way to do that?
[20:48] <barnaba> Any help loading ecryptfs module which won't load for some reason?
[20:48] <locojay> mmh intel_gpu_top return could not find card..
[20:48] <nakkor> Any idea on how to keep a log file limited to a certain size?
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: change the '1920x1080' to what you desire
[20:49] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: It is what I desire, 1920x1080 :)
[20:49] <barnaba> modprobe returns 0 and shows no error, but the module ins't visible in lsmod...
[20:49] <Googol30> I'm guessing I didn't configure my router correctly?  I still do not have internet on my server.
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: cool, if you reboot with the file like that, does it work ok?
[20:49] <redheat> anyhow, we can leave that to later...I just need to reiterate a question i asked before, should I enable Virtualization by default in my BIOS though I'm not using any Virtualization software at all would that speed up my performance?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: if you run:  ping 8.8.8.8     does it ping ok?
[20:50] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I will test to confirm. I log out now to see whether this bad boy gives me 1920x1080 or not :)
[20:50] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Be right back.
[20:50] <Googol30> ActionParsnip: ping 8.8.8.8 returns Destination Host Unreachable
[20:50] <Treadstone__71> redheat, that is only required for vm's I believe, no impact would be noticed with it on or off as far as normal use goes I believe.
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> redheat: enabling the virtualization won't affect the performance in any way
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> Googol30: can you ping your default gateway?
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> redheat: all it means is if you run a virtuaization, you can run 64bit guests
[20:52] <Emanon> ActionParsnip: It's still blanking after a period of inactivity.
[20:52] <Googol30> I can ping my router and the other computers on the network, but I don't have a WAN connection on my Ubuntu Server.
[20:52] <redheat> anyhow..Treadstone_71, ActionParsnip, ViaNocturna85, Dretomgeo..I am Thankful, Thankful..So much for your kind assistance and sorry too much of your time..I am thankful again folks..I really mean it thank you
[20:52] <Emanon> On a side note how do I change the resolution of my full disk encryption passphrase entry screen on boot?
[20:52] <Emanon> It's too low and part of the entry box is off screen.
[20:53] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: YEAAAH!
[20:53] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I shall be damned, the thing works as it should ;-) THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART! =)
[20:53]  * DrGrov hugs ActionParsnip 
[20:53]  * DrGrov runs after ActionParsnip and tries to cuddle and hug more and more
[20:53] <ViaNocturna85> lol can you feel the love
[20:54] <DrGrov> ViaNocturna85: Yeah, damn! I feel the love is in the air!
[20:56] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: You there or you got scared? :)
[20:56] <PeterME_> Hi, I'm having some problem with chmod
[20:56] <Rollin> whats your chmod problem
[20:57] <PeterME_> I try to use it on a mounted external hard drive so I will be able to load the files on it into Plex Media Server. But it just doesn't do anything..
[20:57] <Rollin> what chmod command are you using in the terminal? and what user are you running the command as?
[20:58] <Emanon> Does anyone know how to change the resolution of the encryption key entry screen (the one that appears on boot when you use full disk encryption)?
[20:58] <PeterME_> chmod 755 Peters_disk
[20:58] <d3m0n__> any1 kno how to encrypt a disk after installation?
[20:58] <PeterME_> Doesn't matter if I run it as myself or with sudo
[20:59] <PeterME_> drwx------ 1 peter peter 131072 Dec 10 20:42 Peters_disk
[20:59] <krofna> Why does my computer become extremly slow on 50% CPU usage on each of 4 cores?
[20:59] <PeterME_> Outputs this from ls -al before and after chmod
[20:59] <Googol30> If, in the /etc/network/interfaces file, I have "network 192.168.1.1", does that mean I should set "gateway 192.168.1.254"?
[21:00] <Jordan_U> krofna: It might be memory pressure that's making it slow, rather than CPU usage.
[21:00] <Rollin> get a second opinion before you run this, but shouldn't it be "sudo chmod 755 -R Peters_disk" if you want a recursive chmod
[21:00] <Jordan_U> krofna: In what way is it slow, and do you have proper hardware drivers installed?
[21:01] <d3m0n__> --help
[21:02] <d3m0n__> sorry that was entered in error
[21:03] <Treadstone__71> d3mon__ did you try TrueCrypt ?
[21:03] <Googol30> I'm assuming that since, on my Windows computer, running "ipconfig /all" shows that the default gateway is 192.168.1.1.  So I have set that on my server as well... still doesn't seem to work though.
[21:03] <superbbb> hi
[21:03] <PeterME_> Rollin: I guess, mut that doesn't do anything either..
[21:03] <d3m0n__> Treadstone__71, no I have not yet. I just installed my 12.04 based os and thought I would look into encrypting my HDD
[21:04] <d3m0n__> brb
[21:04] <aquonwq> hello
[21:04] <Rollin> PeterME_ what file system is the disk?
[21:04] <d3m0n__> back
[21:04] <Treadstone__71> d3mon__ I believe that 12.04 will give you the option to encrypt your home drive, but not the full drive. You would have to use the alternate install.
[21:05] <Treadstone__71> d3mon__ 12.10 will give you the option of full hdd encryption during install
[21:05] <Emanon> 12.04 does do full disk encryption on the alternate install media.
[21:05] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  I have a short question:   is it possible to use the "normal" ubuntu and ubuntu for omap "parallel"?  I mean by just copying the relevant kernel images to the boot directory  and then always boot the correct kernel for the current platform?
[21:06] <d3m0n__> ok unfortunately the os i have installed didn't give the option for an alternate install media
[21:06] <Treadstone__71> Emanon .. yes that's what I mean, thanks.
[21:06] <Treadstone__71> Howlymowly Hello.
[21:06] <krofna> Jordan_U: WHen I type it shows up on screen after a while, moving windows is very ... idk how to explain. Not smooth?
[21:06] <PeterME_> Rollin: I believe it's NTFS, but my other NTFS drive works
[21:06] <Treadstone__71> d3mon__ you would have to download the alternate install iso
[21:06] <PeterME_> Rollin: However that is an internal old boot drive
[21:07] <athlon1> hello. I'm using linux to connect to a phone with Android 4. The connection with phone (using usb cable) say it's MTP. How can I copy files to phone? Thanks
[21:07] <d3m0n__> unfortunately backbox doesn't offer an alternate install image
[21:07] <shady__> anyone?
[21:07] <Emanon> Try banshee or rhythmbox for media or maybe whatever the mtp package is for FUSE.
[21:07] <heoyea_> athlon1: maybe use Airdroid app
[21:07] <PeterME_> athlon1: Try AirDroid
[21:08] <Emanon> Or listen to them, they do this more than I do.
[21:08] <athlon1> Thanks for answer, What app??
[21:08] <krofna> Jordan_U: Memory 3.9/8 GB, swap 0
[21:08] <PeterME_> athlon1: Maybe not exactly what you are looking for but it might do the trick
[21:08] <DJones> athlon1: Have a look at the package gMTP, that may work with ICS android phones, I've had a bit of sucess, but not on a regular basis
[21:09] <PeterME_> athlon1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zYW5kLmFpcmRyb2lkIl0.
[21:09] <athlon1> Ok, thanks, i'm going to try. I think I worked time ago with it (but not a lot success).
[21:09] <Emanon> I just plug mine in and select USB as my protocol so it shows up as a usb drive rather than an MTP device.
[21:09] <tim_ct> hi all. I need some advice. When i use evolution in the office I use an IP address but i am at home i have to use a real names address. is there anyway i could stop having to change pop and smtp info all the time
[21:09] <PeterME_> Rollin: The external drive is a "Basic Data" NTFS partition
[21:10] <Googol30> If I'm running port forwarding for a Minecraft server, do I need to forward port 25565 for both TCP and UDP, or only TCP?
[21:10] <heoyea_> sure
[21:10] <PeterME_> Rollin: While the internal one (on which I got this working) is a "HPFS/NTFS (Bootable)" NTFS partition. Not sure what that means though..
[21:14] <Rollin> PeterME_ try the steps from the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1651823
[21:15] <Rollin> PeterME_ but working with linux permissions on a NTFS disk is always a bit troubling
[21:16] <Bastian_b> Hello is there official repository address for php5.4 please?
[21:16] <Sacola> I'm new and I have a huge problem with Ubuntu
[21:16] <roasted> hi
[21:16] <PeterME_> Rollin: I know, but it's a 2TB drive with 9GB free space and I've got nowhere to put the files for a reformat..
[21:16] <Sacola> Can anyone help me?
[21:17] <Sacola> I have a simple question
[21:17] <roasted> Question - what's wrong with this script? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1424084/ I want it to create the txt file ONLY if it is mounted. Problem is, it's NOT mounted, yet it's creating the text file...
[21:17] <b14d3> !ask | Sacola
[21:18] <galups2000> hi
[21:19] <Rollin> PeterME_ i'd play it safe and not do any major permissions edits till the data is backed up safely elsewhere , im sure you dont want to risk corrupting 2TB of data
[21:19] <barnaba> Ok, I solved my problem. Somehow without my action or knowledge some file in ecryptfs hierarchy got chowned to root ;/
[21:19] <Googol30> Rollin: I've done worse =P
[21:20] <PeterME_> As I said, it's for my media center. Only movies and shows, so not the biggest of deals to lose it..
[21:20] <Rollin> Googo130 we all have haha
[21:20] <PeterME_> Googo130: That's called living on the edge :P
[21:21] <PeterME_> Rollin: afk for a while
[21:21] <Googol30> By the way, does any RAID software come with Ubuntu?
[21:21] <Sacola> I have a Samsung laptop R540 and almost every version of Linux (including Ubuntu) have the same problem. After being suspended (or monitor dimmed) the monitor starts flickering. I have tried many solutions and updates but nothing works. Does anyone know a  Linux distribution that works nicely with Samsung laptops
[21:21] <Rollin> you guys too risky, i've got data backed up in external drives, amazon s3, amazon glacier, and a personal server. im paranoid or prepared for the worst
[21:22] <phunyguy_work> Googol30, mdadm
[21:22] <phunyguy_work> !info mdadm \ Googol30
[21:22] <b14d3> Sacola: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but have you considered it might be a hardware issue? Or have you found other people who have the same issue?
[21:22] <phunyguy_work> errr
[21:22] <Rollin> Sacola its not the laoptop brand thats the problem, let us know your gfx card type first
[21:22] <exilarch> Sacola: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1086921
[21:22] <phunyguy_work> !info mdadm | Googol30
[21:22] <_0x783czar> "too risky, too risky!" ~Smeagol
[21:22] <exilarch> Sacola: look at this
[21:23] <Rollin> wow, it is a samsung issue, i stand corrected
[21:23] <Googol30> The only problem that I have found with making backups of everything is that I commonly use the thing that I'm backing up to as my main drive, screwing up everything when I don't know what the most recent files are.
[21:24] <Sacola> Dear <b14d3>, A lot of people with samsungs have this problem. Some solve it, some can't (me)
[21:24] <mrfree_> hi all, I still can't get 12.10 boots on my dell latitude :( plymouthd seems to crash on boot hanging the process http://pastebin.com/KUEj5JXC
[21:24] <b14d3> Yep, I see that from exilarch's link. Just something I hadn't encountered myself.
[21:24] <mrfree_> I can boot with "nomodeset" but then xorg doesn't start at all
[21:25] <fsvieira> hi, I want to make a copy of a folder using cp, I want cp to copy symbolic links as real files and not symbolic links, how can I do this ?
[21:25] <Googol30> It's super low priority for me right now, but since there's a massive amount of activity, I might as well ask... Does anyone know of any software that can crack Whirlpool encryption?
[21:28] <GRMrGecko> I'm trying to update windows 7 to SP1… Doing so I have followed http://u.webra.in/et and marked the C partition as active. Doing so seems to have made the partition with ubuntu go away… How can I recover?
[21:29] <GRMrGecko> Recommend me following http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html?
[21:30] <GRMrGecko> I'm downloading a ubuntu live cd to put on a USB stick so I can at least get something to do the recovery.
[21:30] <GRMrGecko> the partition which had ubuntu looks to be marked as free space now.
[21:30] <helephant> Hey guys....
[21:31] <GRMrGecko> I'm not going to install SP1 when there is this problem as I risk data loss...
[21:31] <helephant> I need help with my Ubuntu Server.
[21:31] <phunyguy_work> !ask | helephant
[21:31] <helephant> what's that?
[21:31] <helephant> !Oh.
[21:32] <helephant> Guy, I need help with my Ubuntu Server. I've set up a software RAID0 but it doesn't seem to work. I'm quite much of a beginner.
[21:32] <Tweikable> what is the channel for rooted android quiestions?
[21:32] <phunyguy_work> helephant, define "doesn't seem to work"
[21:33] <helephant> I've set it up upon Ubuntu Server install but I can't mount it, I think.
[21:33] <phunyguy_work> helephant, did you follow a guide?
[21:33] <helephant> fdisk -l shows it
[21:33] <phunyguy_work> if so, link me to it and the step you are stuck on
[21:34] <helephant> No I did not.
[21:34] <phunyguy_work> helephant, what is "it"?  the md device?
[21:34] <helephant> Yes
[21:34] <phunyguy_work> md127?
[21:34] <mickster04> clear
[21:34] <helephant> I don't know what that means but it under /dev/md0
[21:35] <phunyguy_work> can you pastebin the output of "cat /proc/mdstat" to paste.ubuntu.com please?
[21:35] <helephant> 2*200 GB IDE
[21:35] <helephant> One moment
[21:35] <phunyguy_work> then send on the link to the post
[21:35] <helephant> Here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/1424131/
[21:36] <phunyguy_work> helephant, that looks OK.  have you created a filesystem on the device?
[21:37] <phunyguy_work> for example, sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0
[21:37] <helephant> Yes, I recently tried to format it with ext3 and the disks started to buzz and it finished without any problems (i guess)
[21:37] <helephant> I'll do it again.
[21:37] <helephant> *bbbzzzzz*
[21:37] <helephant> Done.
[21:37] <phunyguy_work> is tehre any useful output on the screen?
[21:38] <phunyguy_work> that you can pastebin?
[21:38] <helephant> Okay
[21:38] <GRMrGecko> Anyone help me recovery my ubuntu partition?
[21:38] <helephant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1424136/
[21:39] <phunyguy_work> helephant, now what happens when you try to mount it?
[21:39] <phunyguy_work> and what mount command are you using?
[21:39] <helephant> mount /dev/md0 /mnt/raid0
[21:40] <phunyguy_work> does /mnt/raid0 exist?
[21:40] <helephant> Um, ¨
[21:40] <helephant> whoops
[21:40] <phunyguy_work> if so, paste the output of that command (sudo mount /dev/md0 /mnt/raid0
[21:40] <phunyguy_work> :)
[21:40] <helephant> As I said, I'm a beginner. Always used gui
[21:40] <phunyguy_work> so I take it that was the issue
[21:41] <helephant> But how do I mount it? D:
[21:41] <helephant> there is nothing in /mnt
[21:41] <phunyguy_work> helephant, sudo mkdir /mnt.raid0
[21:41] <phunyguy_work> errr
[21:41] <phunyguy_work> helephant, sudo mkdir /mnt/raid0
[21:41] <phunyguy_work> then try that mount command again
[21:41] <helephant> mount /dev/md0 /mnt/raid0
[21:42] <helephant> now it doesn't output anything
[21:42] <phunyguy_work> yes
[21:42] <phunyguy_work> that means it mounted.
[21:42] <helephant> I guess it's done
[21:42] <goddard> vmware crashes
[21:42] <goddard> it did work before my update
[21:42] <helephant> D:
[21:42] <phunyguy_work> helephant, now you need to add it to /etc/fstab
[21:42] <helephant> What is stab?
[21:42] <helephant> fstag*
[21:42] <b14d3> Adding it to fstab will make it so it mounts at boot
[21:42] <helephant> Lol, fstab*
[21:43] <Rollin> golden rule of vmware, once you have a production setup working you dont touch it unless you need something in the latest update ;-)
[21:43] <pgib> helephant, short for "filesystem table" it is a list of filesystems and the option of mounting them automatically
[21:43] <guntbert> !enter | helephant
[21:43] <helephant> How do I do that?
[21:43] <phunyguy_work> helephant, add this line to /etc/fstab - "/dev/md0 /mnt/raid0       ext4    defaults 0 0" without the quotes
[21:43] <pgib> helephant, read about fstab 'man 5 fstab'
[21:44] <phunyguy_work> helephant, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[21:44] <helephant> fstab is a file?
[21:44] <helephant> I'll read it
[21:44] <pgib> helephant, yes a configuration file typically located at /etc/fstab
[21:45] <nakkor> Does anyone know why log rotate on size is not working? I have this conf file http://pastebin.com/n7KuQyJh and pump a bunch of data into the log file but it never rotates when it goes past 50M
[21:45] <pgib> something simple that has recently become more complicated because people want to mount by device UUID nowadays for some odd reason
[21:46] <helephant> Done.  Is that all?
[21:46] <helephant> root@Isis:/mnt/raid0# mount -l
[21:46] <b14d3> pgib: Never understood that myself. But a bunch of guides and faqs actually recommend that you do it that way too.
[21:47] <helephant> . /dev/md0 on /mnt/raid0 type ext4 (rw) looks like it's mounted.
[21:47] <phunyguy_work> you can try a restart to see if it mounts at boot, helephant... or you can "sudo umount /dev/md0" and then "sudo mount /mnt/raid0" to see if it picks it up.
[21:47] <PeterME_> Rollin: back
[21:47] <helephant> root@Isis:/mnt/raid0# df -h
[21:48] <pgib> helephant, you can test it by just doing: umount /mnt/raid0 && mount /mnt/raid0   -- notice how it mounts without you needing to specify a device
[21:48] <phunyguy_work> helephant that command works to see if it is mounted, yes.  Just don't paste the output in the channel
[21:48] <helephant> . /dev/md0        367G  195M  348G   1% /mnt/raid0
[21:48] <helephant> Okay
[21:48] <guntbert> phunyguy_work: tell him to use sudo mount -a instead of te last command - picks up everything in fstab like on boot
[21:48] <helephant> Okay, sorry. sudo umount /dev/md0 says that device is busy.
[21:49] <phunyguy_work> helephant, restart the server and see.   guntbert, that is just as good.
[21:49] <pgib> guntbert, ahh cool
[21:49] <phunyguy_work> helephant you need to "sudo umount /dev/md0" first
[21:49] <pgib> helephant, you are probably sitting it in right now.  'cd' to a different directory first
[21:49] <helephant> "sudo umount /dev/md0" was exactly what I entered.
[21:49] <GRMrGecko> Following http://u.webra.in/et, windows deleted my EXT partition with ubuntu, do I go about following http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html to recover?
[21:49] <helephant> Oh yeah lol
[21:49] <phunyguy_work> oh misread, lol
[21:49] <phunyguy_work> txting the wife atm
[21:50] <guntbert> pgib: :) and btw: uuids are very useful when it comes to hotplugging data devices
[21:50] <Copernic> I cant get the alsa a52 plugin to work as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DigitalAC-3Pulseaudio
[21:50] <helephant> I rebooted the server and the raid0 is mounted! Thank you so much guys!
[21:50] <phunyguy_work> no problem, helephant
[21:51] <Copernic> does anyone have experiance with that on ubuntu 12.04?
[21:51] <end_guy> [A
[21:51] <end_guy> [A
[21:52] <pgib> b14d3, the only thing I can imagine is that it prevents the problem of device renaming (due primarily to adding/removing devices).
[21:52] <end_guy> [A
[21:52] <phunyguy_work> end_guy, can we help you?
[21:52] <Copernic> does /usr/lib/alsa-lib = /usr/lib/alsaplayer/ dont think so right?
[21:52] <b14d3> pgib: Which makes sense with guntbert's comment about hotswapping I suppose
[21:52] <Googol30> If I'm assigning my server a static IP, "auto eth0" "iface eth0 inet static" "address 192.168.1.253" "netmask 255.255.255.0" "network 192.168.1.1" "broadcast 192.168.1.255"
[21:52] <pgib> yeah - i just saw his comment
[21:53] <Googol30> "gateway 192.168.1.1" will work right?
[21:53] <end_guy> lol sorry, irssi was being a little laggy and I was repeating  a command
[21:53] <phunyguy_work> Googol30, that depends, is that yoru gateway?
[21:53] <darkhalo117> Sounds good to me
[21:53] <Googol30> Is the gateway the router's IP?
[21:53] <pgib> Googol30, for all intents and purposes: yes
[21:53] <phunyguy_work> Googol30, yes.
[21:53] <b14d3> Googol30: Depends on your network, but generally
[21:53] <Googol30> Then yes.
[21:53] <ikonia> Googol30: often yes, but not always
[21:55] <phunyguy_work> ikonia =P, yes very true.  However, 192.168.1.1 sounds liek a pretty standard setup on a home router.
[21:55] <Magellanicus> hi
[21:55] <helephant> I've learned a lot in just a few mins, now back to schoolwork, c-u and thanks again!! o/
[21:55] <Magellanicus> everyone
[21:55] <Magellanicus> how can i make the multimedia keys of my keyboard work with banshee
[21:55] <Magellanicus> im using linux mint
[21:55] <Magellanicus> please help
[21:55] <phunyguy_work> !mint | Magellanicus
[21:56] <phunyguy_work> Googol30, also some of those lines may not be needed.  you only really need the address, netmask, and gateway in there.
[21:56] <phunyguy_work> the rest it can figure out.
[21:57] <Googol30> Do I need to set up anything else computer side, or anything other than TCP port forwarding router side?  Anything related to NAT or DNS servers?
[21:57] <phunyguy_work> 100% of the time, if your IP is 192.168.1.253, your netmask is 255.255.255.0, and your gateway is 192.168.1.1, then your network will be 192.168.1.0, and broadcast will be 192.168.1.255.
[21:58] <phunyguy_work> networking basics.  :)
[21:58] <phunyguy_work> Googol30, put your ISPs DNS in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:59] <Googol30> I didn't do networking in school.  I learned useless software like Adobe Flash and Photoshop... which I somewhat regret.
[21:59] <phunyguy_work> yoru router shoudl ahndle the rest.
[21:59] <phunyguy_work> should handle*
[21:59] <phunyguy_work> !portforward
[21:59] <Googol30> And where do I find my ISPs DNS?  That's the part I am stuck on right now I think.
[21:59] <MrPopinjay> Hey guys, this is a really stupid question but I enabled a plugin in gedit that gives you this "getting started" menu when you open a new tab rather than a blank document and I can't work out how to turn it off. It doesn't seem to be in the plugin window any moreA little help?
[21:59] <phunyguy_work> Googol30, you can call them, or web into 192.168.1.1, and it will be there as well.
[22:00] <Googol30> But it isn't my external IP, correct?
[22:00] <phunyguy_work> Googol30, no, it is where yoru ISP wants you to send DNS queries.
[22:00] <wizbit> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[22:00] <phunyguy_work> well that was useful @ wizbit
[22:01] <guntbert> !resolvconf | Googol30 phunyguy_work that changed
[22:01] <phunyguy_work> guntbert, even on a static set network?
[22:02] <phunyguy_work> ahh yeah I guess so.  Follow that guide and ignore me, Googol30
[22:02] <phunyguy_work> My network is all set dhcp with reservations for servers, so I haven't had to use it in a while.
[22:02] <guntbert> phunyguy_work: yes, that has nothing to do with the network itself, but keep in mind that many systems have very volatile settings (especially regarding DNS)
[22:03] <phunyguy_work> good to know, guntbert
[22:03] <Googol30> I won't be able to see my DNS servers from this computer (Windows), will I? I must go through my router to do that?
[22:03] <MaynardWaters> hello I want to install both 32 and 64 ubuntu along side windows. 32U and windows are already installed, when I tried to use wibi again it says I have to uninstall the 32bit before I can install the 64bit, is there a simple work around to this?
[22:04] <phunyguy_work> ikonia, funny part is, I have read that blog post a few days ago, so it is odd that it popped up here.
[22:04] <guntbert> Googol30: normally your ISP will tell you their addresses
[22:04] <venik212> How do I put my ubuntu system on a USB drive?  I do not want the .iso for fresh installation, but my customized ubuntu system from my hard drive
[22:04] <ikonia> I don't see why that is funny
[22:04] <ikonia> it's a blog post about ubuntu.....so it's not odd that someone would paste it
[22:04] <phunyguy_work> !liveusb | venik212
[22:05] <phunyguy_work> ikonia, i didnt mean that it was weird because it was pasted here, i meant it was weird that I read it and then it was pasted here.
[22:05] <steff_> org
[22:05] <ikonia> phunyguy_work: why is that weird ?
[22:05] <Googol30> But I don't feel like calling them... lets see if the router will tell me.
[22:05] <phunyguy_work> like coincidence
[22:05] <ikonia> errr not really
[22:05] <phunyguy_work> *shrug*
[22:05] <venik212> phunguy-- I am NOT trying to install ubuntu from a usb to a hard drive-- I am trying to get it from the hard drive onto a USB drive so I could take my system wherever I go
[22:05] <ikonia> it's all over the net so many people are reading it
[22:06] <phunyguy_work> venik212, that link explains that as well.
[22:06] <phunyguy_work> see the second link.
[22:06] <phunyguy_work> ikonia, right, but why spam it?
[22:06] <phunyguy_work> I guess I will never fully undersatnd
[22:07] <phunyguy_work> gotta run.  cya guys late ron,.
[22:07] <phunyguy_work> later on*****
[22:08] <venik212> phun-- I have been on thta link, but had hoped there would be some easier way.  It looks really convoluted, and probably outdated
[22:10] <sc0rpi0n> some news for ati older card support on quantal?
[22:10] <ikonia> sc0rpi0n: the drivers don't support the older cards.
[22:11] <ikonia> why do you think that's going to change ?
[22:11] <sc0rpi0n> because it's not funny to have unsupported hardware?
[22:11] <ikonia> then contact ATI and complain
[22:12] <GRMrGecko> Following http://u.webra.in/et, windows deleted my EXT partition with ubuntu, do I go about following http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html to recover?
[22:17] <BlueAssassin> ciao
[22:17] <BlueAssassin> qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[22:18] <BlueAssassin> salve
[22:18] <BlueAssassin> c'è nessuno?
[22:18] <BlueAssassin> mi rispondete?
[22:18] <BlueAssassin> hey!
[22:19] <BlueAssassin> !list
[22:19] <BlueAssassin> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[22:19] <BlueAssassin> allora c'è nessuno
[22:19] <ikonia> please stop
[22:20] <ikonia> !english | BlueAssassin
[22:20] <ikonia> !it | BlueAssassin
[22:20] <BlueAssassin> ok thanks and sorry
[22:21] <ikonia> no problem
[22:21] <JPMH> I want to use lftp over ssh and need to tell ssh to get the generated authentication file from a non-standard place, that is not ~/.ssh - how do I set the path on the command line I see -p etc for port, just do not see how to set this
[22:22] <ikonia> JPMH: man ssh, but it's ssh -i for the identity file
[22:22] <JPMH> ikonia: yes - I know how to set it for ssh - problem is that I can not see how to pass that to lftp so it uses it
[22:22] <ikonia> lftp won't use it
[22:23] <ikonia> lftp has no knowledge/ability to use it
[22:23] <JPMH> ikonia: I remember using it in the past and I can set it in the config file too, I just want to put it on the command line
[22:23] <ikonia> I disagree
[22:24] <JPMH> ikonia: to what do you disagree
[22:25] <ikonia> that it's usable like that
[22:25] <JPMH> ikonia: you mean from the command line or a config file?
[22:25] <ikonia> either/both
[22:25] <JPMH> ikonia: then you are wrong - since I have it working in the config file right now
[22:25] <ikonia> great
[22:26] <goddard> vmware crashes
[22:26] <goddard> it did work before my update
[22:26] <goddard> anyone had this problem after an update
[22:26] <JPMH> ikonia: I have long suspected that you speak on things that you know nothing of, now you have proved it to me and everyone else here - please don't do that
[22:26] <ikonia> JPMH: I didn't say I was right, I said I disagreed with you
[22:27] <ikonia> identity files are for ssh and lftp is not "aware" of ssh, so I don't see how you can pass it, that doesn't mean you can't
[22:28] <_0x783czar> JPMH: chill
[22:29] <JPMH> ikonia: you present your opinions as though you know what you are talking about when you don't - and have you noticed that lftp passes -p for example to ssh -
[22:29] <ikonia> JPMH: I've not "notced" as I'm not using it
[22:29] <JPMH> _0x783czar: I am merely warning others of the dangers of listening to ikonia
[22:29] <ikonia> JPMH: and I present my opion as just that, my opinion
[22:30] <ikonia> JPMH: there is no dangers, please don't spread false information
[22:30] <ikonia> JPMH: you're free to ignore any advice I give, but please don't spread lies that I give dangerous advice, which is simpley not true.
[22:31] <bob_the_hamster> Does anybody happen to know if there is a way to disable the File-Open dialog in most programs from defaulting to "Recent Files"?
[22:33] <ikonia> JPMH: the man page says -p is "port" so be careful, it sounds like there are different versions if -p passes the identify file in your version
[22:33] <BlueEagle> bob_the_hamster: googling that question provided several promising hits.
[22:33] <ikonia> JPMH: that's for version 4.4.0 - so I don't know if what you have is later
[22:34] <ikonia> !info lftp
[22:35] <ikonia> JPMH: again I'd now really stress caution as the version ubuntu ships with appears to be 4.3 - and the 4.4 man page says -p is "port", which is different to what you are saying -p does
[22:35] <ikonia> are you sure -p dos identity file ?
[22:35] <ikonia> or are you wrong ?
[22:36] <JPMH> ikonia: the expression IMHO is common when you have an opinion rather than quoting something as fact which is what you do
[22:36] <JPMH> ikonia: anyway - you do it - we all now have evidence - I will beware of you in the future
[22:36] <ikonia> I didn't quote anything as fact, I disagreed with you, nothing more
[22:36] <JPMH> ikonia: but thanks
[22:36] <JPMH> over and out
[22:36] <ikonia> JPMH: looks like you are mistaken over -p
[22:36] <ikonia> what a surprise,
[22:36] <ikonia> proven wrong and had to /part after calling me
[22:37] <auronandace> ikonia: looks like he doesn't like being wrong
[22:37] <bob_the_hamster> BlueEagle: if you could see my firefox window you would see that all those google results links are purple on my screen :) Many pages suggest disabling it in privacy options. I tried that, and it has zero effect.
What is it with the pissing contest?</ot>
[22:37] <Emanon> Could anyone tell me how to change the resolution on the encryption passphrase screen?
[22:38] <bob_the_hamster> Other pages talk about deleting or messing with various files in ~/.local/share/ but unfortunately those workarounds didn't work for me either :(
[22:38] <scottj> if I have /home/foo/.Private mounted as /home/foo is there a way to access the original /home/foo w/o unmounting the .Private one?
[22:38] <bob_the_hamster> My "Recent Files" just won't die :(
[22:39] <BlueEagle> bob_the_hamster: Well it would have been good of you to mention that when asking the question then. I therefore assume you have tried to set +i to recently-used.xbel too?
[22:40] <DrGrov> Hi everyone. Is anyone using LibreOffice at the moment with a newer version than what ships with 12.04?
[22:41] <BlueEagle> bob_the_hamster: Also specifying that it should not record activity for the applications in question (ie. the ones you use the most) did not work?
[22:42] <diverdude> How do i restart the network manager from commandline?
[22:42] <ikonia> diverdude: where not asking this the other day ?
[22:43] <diverdude> ikonia, yeah, but i did not figure it out
[22:43] <b14d3> diverdude: I remember someone answering. Can't remember for the life of me what it was though
[22:43] <ikonia> diverdude: are you trying to actually restart the application, or the gnome applet in the desktop ?
[22:43] <diverdude> ikonia, the gnome applet
[22:43] <ikonia> diverdude: isn't this something to do with you trying to set a static ip (sorry if I'm not remembering this clearly)
[22:44] <ikonia> diverdude: why do you need to restart it
[22:44] <ikonia> it's part of the desktop, you'd have to kill the gnome applet and restart it as I understand it
[22:44] <diverdude> ikonia, no im not setting up static ip.
[22:44] <diverdude> ikonia, its because the applet displays wrong
[22:44] <ikonia> what do you mean, displays wrong ?
[22:44] <diverdude> ikonia, graphical error
[22:45] <ikonia> ok, I've lost interest, I'm just asking you to explain the issue and you seem to be doing what you can to not answer clearly
[22:45] <DrGrov> ikonia: Hi again. I got the nVidia issues fixed in 12.04 thanks to the help of ActionParsnip.
[22:45] <BlueEagle> diverdude: Could you elaborate? It would most likely to be prudent to remove the root issue rather than starting to arbitrarily kill and start applets imo.
[22:45] <ikonia> DrGrov: bravo, well done
[22:45] <ikonia> BlueEagle: exactly
[22:46] <bob_the_hamster> BlueEagle: i should clarify that I can clear the Recent Files list by messing with ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel but that the empty recently used still comes up whenever I do file->open in most applications
[22:46] <sideone> hey all, i need to join 1 match plus 3 lines below through a text doc. i was thinking of using grep -A 3 -exec something through the file. does anyone know what command can join those 4 lines together in a loop?
[22:46] <DrGrov> ikonia: It was messy but actual perfectly logical. It was an xorg.conf thing that needed to be done. ActionParsnip did most of the telling and doing actually :)
[22:46] <BlueEagle> DrGrov: Since this was something that did require a bit of work you may want to consider writing a documenting article about the issue and the solution so that others may be helped from your experience.
[22:46] <ikonia> well done
[22:47] <ikonia> DrGrov: hopefully you can see why working it through logically is a simple solution rather than just trying random upgrades/software/changes (for future issues)
[22:47] <DrGrov> ikonia: Is there any good solid way to alter the GPU speed so I get a bit more out of the GPU?
[22:47] <ikonia> DrGrov: in honesty, leave it alone
[22:47] <DrGrov> BlueEagle: It require seriously a lot of work before I realized it.
[22:47] <ikonia> DrGrov: the drivers are binary don't interfer with them and how they work
[22:48] <DrGrov> ikonia: Probably yes but I do want to be able to play 1080p HD videos with bitrates of a high average.
[22:48] <ikonia> DrGrov: if your card is not powerful enough - buy a new one
[22:48] <ikonia> DrGrov: make sure you get one with good linux support
[22:48] <diverdude> BlueEagle, ikonia http://imagebin.org/238843
[22:48] <DrGrov> BlueEagle: I wonder though, how much would it benefit for future releases?
[22:49] <DrGrov> ikonia: I am pretty darn sure my card is powerful enough since it is a nVidia GTS250 1GB PCI-E 16X.
[22:49] <ikonia> DrGrov: right, so again, work through logically why it's having a problem rather than trying random things
[22:50] <ikonia> DrGrov: I've just read the last log, as I understand it, you just needed to generate and xorg.conf
[22:50] <DrGrov> ikonia: I have worked out it on 10.04 until I decided to upgrade to 12.04/12.10. I was not able to fully stresstest direct rendering.
[22:50] <ikonia> that's not a "lot of work" and complex,
[22:50] <ikonia> that's just making a text file,
[22:50] <ikonia> DrGrov: you just said you had it working on 12.04
[22:50] <MarcoPau> do you guys maybe know how to set the default "apps" shown in the bar on top of google homepage? web, search, images, groups, gmail... thanks
[22:51] <ikonia> DrGrov: what OS are you actually using
[22:51] <BlueEagle> bob_the_hamster: Then the next alternative is to remove Zeitgeist I guess. http://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why?lang=en
[22:51] <DrGrov> ikonia: No, that is not a lot of work and I had a hunch when I had 12.04 installed the first since it complained about not being able to parse into xorg.conf. But it was mostly the sudo part that confused me on nvidia-settings.
[22:51] <diverdude> BlueEagle, you see the problem
[22:51] <bob_the_hamster> BlueEagle: thanks, I'll read that
[22:51] <DrGrov> ikonia: 12.04 still as I mentioned. I had my GPU working very well in 10.04 as well but did not find a good stresstest for direct rendering.
[22:51] <diverdude> BlueEagle, so whats the root cause
[22:51] <BlueEagle> diverdude: Multitasking.
[22:52] <BlueEagle> diverdude: I'll check the screenie now.
[22:52] <ikonia> DrGrov: why do you think your card isn't woring well ?
[22:52] <DrGrov> ikonia: It is not working well since it has a bit of issues on 1080p HD videos with high bitrates (6000 kbps or over).
[22:52] <BlueEagle> diverdude: So the issue is that it is not listing your VPN-connections?
[22:52] <ikonia> DrGrov: ok, so that doesn't mean it's the card, it could be the codec
[22:53] <ikonia> (just as an easy example)
[22:53] <BlueEagle> diverdude: ...or that it lists them on the left side?
[22:53] <ikonia> DrGrov: don't rush into anything, work it through
[22:53] <DrGrov> ikonia: Yes, that is what I meant from the beginning. Has nothing to do with the card but more with the software/codec/something similar or both.
[22:53] <diverdude> BlueEagle, its not listing them
[22:53] <ikonia> DrGrov: right, so why are you trying to overlcock the card if you know it's not the card performing bad ?
[22:54] <DrGrov> ikonia: Yes, I will work it through step-by-step now. It is good that in all of these messy affair I did not restore my backup even, just left it to wait.
[22:54] <DrGrov> ikonia: Who said anything about overclocking my card? Read what I wrote.
[22:54] <BlueEagle> diverdude: To me that is not a graphical error but a bug. Unfortunately I do not know enough of that network manager to be of much help. What I can say is that if it usually lists them, then forgets them until the applet is restarted indicates that the data is lost. Since I am no wizard on VPN either I am even more useless in this quest.
[22:54] <ikonia> 2:47 < DrGrov> ikonia: Is there any good solid way to alter the GPU speed so I get a bit more out of the GPU?
[22:55] <ikonia> DrGrov: that is "overlcocking" it
[22:55] <Emanon> Sounds dirty...
[22:55] <ikonia> altering the speed faster than the default = overclocking
[22:55] <DrGrov> ikonia: Yes but that is nothing like overclocking. It is what nvidia-settings tells me. It is in Adaptive mode now but could be altered to be in a different more powerful mode.
[22:55] <diverdude> BlueEagle, hence my question, How do i restart network manager :)
[22:55] <ikonia> DrGrov: it's overclocking
[22:55] <DrGrov> ikonia: Or at least I do not see it like overclocking.
[22:56] <ikonia> DrGrov: if it moves above it's stock capabilities,
[22:56] <DrGrov> ikonia: Fine, let us call it overclocking then ;-)
[22:56] <BlueEagle> diverdude: a killall on the applet and starting it and binding it to a shortcut should do the trick.
[22:56] <DrGrov> ikonia: But it does not move over its stock capability... It is within the limit.
[22:56] <diverdude> BlueEagle, what is it called=?
[22:56] <DrGrov> ikonia: Limit what the card can handle.
[22:56] <ikonia> DrGrov: then it will scale on it's own, if the driver supports it
[22:57] <BlueEagle> diverdude: ps aux|grep network
[22:57] <BlueEagle> diverdude: That should list your candidates nicely I guess.
[22:57] <BlueEagle> diverdude: My guess is network-manager-applet
[22:57] <bob_the_hamster> diverdude: I remember being able to restart NetworkManager with: sudo invoke-rc.d network-manager restart
[22:57] <DrGrov> ikonia: Yes, that would be great. Is there any good way, except nvidia-settings, to go and monitor the GPU temperature, speed etc.?
[22:57] <c0rtex> I have a problem with radeon driver on a laptop with rv516 chipset. I have been able to work with radeon driver properly by starting with nomodeset, stopping lightdm, running modprobe -r radeon, modprode radeon modeset=1, starting lightdm. Is there a way of making this permanent?
[22:58] <c0rtex> I have tried putting radeon modeset=1 in my /etc/modules
[22:58] <BlueEagle> bob_the_hamster: While that will restart the daemon it will not restart the applet iirc. That may have changed though.
[22:58] <ikonia> DrGrov: nvidia settins is normally pretty reasonable at monitoring the card
[22:58] <ikonia> DrGrov: as it can use the binary drivers to interface
[22:58] <OerHeks> DrGrov, you could try to disable sync to vblank in nvidia settings > http://picpaste.com/pics/sync2vblank-nnAancNs.1355180268.png
[22:58] <diverdude> bob_the_hamster, that did not help :(
[22:59] <goddard> anyone know why vmware doesn't work after updates and how i can get it working again?
[22:59] <DrGrov> ikonia: Ok, but it does not save to xorg.conf unless I save? I mean it is a bit fussy what it does and does not save apparently from previous experiences.
[22:59] <ikonia> OerHeks: does that have a positive impact /
[22:59] <ikonia> DrGrov: it saves when you tell it to
[22:59] <ikonia> DrGrov: it won't save on it's own , it's a good design
[23:00] <OerHeks> ikonia, may be if he wants full HD 1080p
[23:00] <DrGrov> OerHeks: Ah good. That I will look into right now. I do hope I have it enabled. But damn it, now I remember something. I have put the imagee settings too high perhaps and not so much on performance as needed...
[23:01] <DrGrov> ikonia: Okay, so it is only that "Save to X..." that saves it? Good. I will jump in and wreck havoc ;-)
[23:01] <ikonia> DrGrov: backup your working xorg.conf first
[23:02] <DrGrov> ikonia: Ah yes, that is a good idea :) I will just copy it to a new file. sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup.10122012
[23:02] <dr_willis> nvidia-settings can save to the 'users' personal settings files. or the system wide xorg.conf file.
[23:03] <darkhalo117> 'E.Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problemwith MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/
[23:03] <darkhalo117> Help?
[23:04] <DrGrov> ikonia: Or should I copy it somewhere else than my /etc/X11 folder for security precausion?
[23:04] <BlueEagle> darkhalo117: What did you do prior to encountering that error?
[23:04] <ikonia> DrGrov: up to you
[23:04] <dr_willis> darkhalo117:  dont a 'sudp apt-get update' recently?
[23:04] <dr_willis> done..
[23:04] <DrGrov> ikonia: The prefix was right I hope that I wrote.
[23:05] <dr_willis> DrGrov:  this is why  theres tab completion. ;)
[23:05] <darkhalo117> Yes
[23:05] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Ah yes, it went wrong :)
[23:05] <darkhalo117> Should I not sudo that?
[23:05] <dr_willis> darkhalo117:  system config type tools nor,mally need sudo. yes
[23:06] <dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get update'
[23:06] <darkhalo117> That's what I did
[23:06] <lcabreza> whats the equivalent of chkconfig rhel on debian (ubuntu) ?
[23:06] <dr_willis>  /var/lib/apt/lists/ seems to have a file or 3 for every repository on the system.  could be one of them has gotten currupted
[23:07] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Got it, I had it first to my home folder :)
[23:07] <darkhalo117> Any ideas for a fix?
[23:07] <k1l> lcabreza: update-rc.d is it for ubuntu
[23:07] <dr_willis> darkhalo117:  rename the directory., and rerun sudo apt-get update   perhaps
[23:08] <dr_willis> darkhalo117:  it seems to be the apt-get listing cache dir.
[23:08] <dr_willis> I just renamed mine and its redowenloading the lkiss
[23:08] <dr_willis> lists
[23:08] <GRMrGecko> BTW: TestDisk did fix my issue, I just need to fix lili.
[23:09] <lcabreza> k1l: thanks .i want to remove from startup a specific service ..
[23:09] <dr_willis> lcabreza:  what service.
[23:10] <dr_willis> some are managed by upstart. some use the older sysv method
[23:10] <k1l> lcabreza: upastart should be the right one then
[23:10] <k1l> *upstart
[23:11] <bob_the_hamster> BlueEagle: looks like that zeitgeist removal thing is a no-go. gedit, gnome-session, and nautilus all appears to depend on libzeitgeist. Looks like I am just screwed :(
[23:11] <lcabreza> dr_willis: pcscd. i just don't want to it to start every time..i want to be manual ..
[23:11] <k1l> bob10: dont remove zeitgeist :/
[23:11] <lcabreza> k1l:upastart > whats the difference ?
[23:11] <dr_willis> lcabreza:  the upstart cookbook has a section on doing that.     http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[23:11] <DrGrov> OerHeks: What card do you have?
[23:11] <dr_willis> !upstart
[23:12] <dr_willis> !info pcscd
[23:12] <bob_the_hamster> k1l: yeah, looks like that would mess a lot of stuff up. But I still can't figure out how to get rid of "Recent Files" as the default in the File-Open dialog :(
[23:13] <lcabreza> dr_willis: thanks..i'll go check that out ..
[23:13] <BlueEagle> k1l: Well if it is not to be removed, how can one set it to not open recent documents all the time?
[23:15] <k1l> BlueEagle: bob_the_hamster well, i heard that question some time ago. but dont remember if that was solved
[23:15] <GRMrGecko> cannot use uncommon overlayfs found as root device
[23:15] <GRMrGecko> lilo is giving me this output
[23:15] <GRMrGecko> I already have lilo installed
[23:16] <bob_the_hamster> Yeah, all my googling has suggested that nobody has solved it (short of changing to kde or xfce or something else like that)
[23:17] <OerHeks> DrGrov,  NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
[23:18] <BlueEagle> GRMrGecko: Wow! You still use lilo?
[23:18] <nemo> Oh. Cool. Jono apologised!
[23:18] <nemo> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/bkerensa-opensource/~3/HaP7u9GdqUY/on-saying-everyone-who-disagrees-spreads-fud
[23:18] <nemo> (yes, I'm behind on the news)
[23:18] <BlueEagle> !ot | nemo
[23:18] <GRMrGecko> BlueEagle: Grub wouldn't install on this ee pc
[23:18] <darkhalo117> dr_willis rename it to anything?
[23:18] <nemo> BlueEagle: you know, just saying "ot" would have saved one line of spam :-p
[23:18] <darkhalo117> @dr_willis rename it to anything?
[23:18] <dr_willis> darkhalo117:  err.. yes..
[23:19] <OerHeks> DrGrov, glxgears from mesa-utils is a nice tool to check speed with/without sync to vblank
[23:19] <darkhalo117> Lol thnx I don't want to have confictions
[23:19] <dr_willis> @ is not for IRC. ;) its for twitter
[23:19] <dr_willis> whatever-backup
[23:19] <BlueEagle> nemo: Three, actually + the one you follow up with. However not going ot to begin with would have removed all these lines. What's your point?
[23:19] <GRMrGecko> BlueEagle: Do you wish walking me through replacing lilo with grub?
[23:19] <dr_willis> darkhalo117:  i just renamed it. remade the directory. and reran sudo apt-get update   it recreated the files
[23:19] <BlueEagle> GRMrGecko: Not on an ee. Sorry. ;)
[23:19] <nemo> BlueEagle: *shrug
[23:20] <GRMrGecko> BlueEagle: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-942081.html
[23:20] <OerHeks> DrGrov, with ( 298 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.528 FPS ) without sync ( 33740 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6747.861 FPS )
[23:21] <GRMrGecko> BlueEagle: maybe they fixed it by now
[23:21] <GRMrGecko> let's try
[23:22] <DrGrov> OerHeks: Okay, I will download mesa-utils now to see.
[23:22] <DrGrov> OerHeks: Thanks.
[23:22] <BlueEagle> GRMrGecko: Best of luck to you.
[23:23] <Nordom> So when I started up my desktop pc at home this morning I had an interesting exprience. I have it on a delayed boot so I can turn it on an get ready for work while everything loads, anyways when I typed in my password to unlock everything after my boot. My screen became distorted pixelated with text moving around the screen. At the buttom I could see the users on my computer, Guest, Sonka, ME and
[23:23] <Nordom> and the sonka is not a registered user
[23:25] <Nordom> does anyone know anything about this? I seems more like a hacking attempt due to added user in my usergroups... but it could have just been one of the virus that made to piss people off or what not.... no idea what this is google didn't reviel anything and it definately didnt feel like a crash because I havent sceene a crash like this since regular nintendo
[23:25] <ikonia> Nordom: sounds like a graphics corruption, nothing more
[23:26] <ikonia> Nordom: I'd look at that user in the accounts list, but beyond that, nothing suspcious
[23:26] <darkhalo117> Thank you dr_willis. You are the man
[23:26] <Nordom> ikonia: I hope so, just strange that middle of the bottom screen would have the only ledgeable text on the screen, with Guest, Sonka, and my home user name everything else was garbled
[23:26] <dr_willis> darkhalo117:  seems 3weird one of those files got messed up. perhaps currupted  during a download or fsck
[23:26] <ikonia> Nordom: not really
[23:27] <Nordom> ikonia: maybe just the graphics as you say, I did look in the user groups found nothing, but did find a bunch of strange files in my trash that I dont remember putting there
[23:27] <ikonia> such as ?
[23:28] <Nordom> bunch of stuff I may have deleted in the past, but now I thinking about it stuff in my ubuntu one sync... could have been dumped when I reset the computer when the files were syncing
[23:29] <paris> phone over gmail is not working.
[23:29] <Nordom> ikonia: well thank you for your help, I will look into it a little more when I get back on that pc, but thank you for at least reassuring me
[23:29] <DrGrov> Is it just in 12.10 there is in System Settings the option for Online Accounts? I do not see it in 12.04.
[23:31] <stevopowell> I run Ubuntu 12.04.1. Has anybody else upgraded to 12.10? How does it compare?
[23:31] <dr_willis> stevopowell:  lots of people have upgraded.
[23:32] <ikonia> stevopowell: there are pleanty of reviews on online
[23:32] <dr_willis> if you want/need the newer features. upgrade. :) if not.. dont.
[23:33] <dr_willis> 13.04 will be here in a few months.  The Joys of Ubuntus 6 Mo release policy
[23:33] <SocialEvil> guys any idea how to add to my panel the volume icon, without the mail icon ?
[23:34] <trism> SocialEvil: if you don't want the mail icon, just uninstall indicator-messages
[23:35] <SocialEvil> trism, it worked :) thanks
[23:37] <DrGrov> Apparently I do not have direct rendering enabled. Seems like glxgears gets stuck and it needs to be sigtermed.
[23:37] <Gyro54> Hi!
[23:38] <GRMrGecko> Ok… Grub is installed, however it doesn't seem to be configured with my drives
[23:38] <GRMrGecko> how can I configure it?
[23:38] <GRMrGecko> it just prompts me with a grub command interface
[23:38] <Gyro54> i am trying to map a shared drive from a win2003 server to U12.04 but have a mount error: could not resolve address for server?
[23:39] <GRMrGecko> maybe I need grub2
[23:40] <DrGrov> Any easy way to test direct rendering? Just a 3d enabled game would suffice?
[23:41] <Somelauw> When opening system-config-printer, I can't find the option "Printer via sambda"? So how do I install a sambda printer?
[23:42] <ring0> DrGrov,  glxinfo | grep -i render
[23:43] <DrGrov> ring0: Yes, it is "Direct rendering: Yes" :) I thought first what happened since glxgears crashed the whole terminal and everything almost.
[23:44] <nemo> DrGrov: we get that so often with users (windows and linux) that we've started logging glGetString(GL_RENDERER/VENDOR/VERSION) in our game :)
[23:44] <nemo> DrGrov: in windows, bad sign is using the MS vid driver (software rendering)
[23:44] <nemo> in linux, there are unfortunately drivers for major vid cards that still do software rendering, so the typical fix is jockey-gtk and installing the nvidia or ati blob
[23:44] <dr_willis> Somelauw:  I got a "Windows Printer Via Samba" here.  Or you could try the cups web interface.  http://localhost:631
[23:45] <nemo> but. since you have direct rendering...
[23:45] <nemo> unless the driver is faking it :)
[23:45] <DrGrov> nemo: Okay :) Nah, it is rendering really well on the desktop as well and extremetuxracer also worked brillantly ;-)
[23:45] <Somelauw> dr_willis: How to install samba through localhost:631, because I again don't see the window printer via samba option?
[23:46] <nemo> DrGrov: http://free3d.org/
[23:46] <dr_willis> Somelauw:  sudo apt-get install samba  perhaps.. my networkprinter dosent use samba any mopre. :) but i do install the various samba services  for other reasons
[23:46] <nemo> DrGrov: other thing we sometimes get is cards getting pushed over the edge by desktop compositing (use of Aero in Windows, or Gnome3/Unity in linux)
[23:46] <dr_willis> Somelauw:  this is a windows box shareing a printer?
[23:47] <GRMrGecko> got grub2 installed:D
[23:47] <GRMrGecko> and it works
[23:47] <GRMrGecko> BlueEagle: Just so you are aware it worked this time.
[23:47] <GRMrGecko> recovered the ubuntu partition
[23:47] <GRMrGecko> upgraded to grub
[23:47] <BlueEagle> GRMrGecko: Very good. :)
[23:47] <GRMrGecko> now to see if I can install SP1 on windows 7
[23:47] <dr_willis> GRMrGecko:  from Lilo to Grub2  thats like going from  a Gocart to a ... fancy big car.. ;)
[23:48] <GRMrGecko> lol
[23:48] <Somelauw> dr_willis: It should already be installed: i   samba
[23:48] <Somelauw> i means installed
[23:48] <nemo> DrGrov: hm. they recommend the HD 4670 - nifty. that's the card I have at work. last time I tried radeon driver on it it failed horribly. I guess the situation has changed
[23:48] <dr_willis> Somelauw:  double check i guess.. see if findsmb, and smbtree commands see the server/printer/shares
[23:48] <Somelauw> dr_willis: It is a network printer.
[23:49] <dr_willis> Somelauw:  shared by a windows box? or stnd alone?
[23:49] <dr_willis> Somelauw:  my networked brother printer 'serves' its printing via several differnt methods.. samba is only oneof them. it
[23:49] <Somelauw> I don't know.
[23:50] <dr_willis> a shared by windows printer - might ONLY be served via samba. a Stand alone. may have other methids.  I recall ust entering the ip# in cups configs someplace and it scaned the printer and showed all the ways it was shareing the printer
[23:51] <Somelauw> dr_willis: There is also http option, but I am not sure if I should manually put http in front of the adress they gave me. The adress they gave me starts with SRV1264.domain.net/.../.printer
[23:51] <Somelauw> then it is standalone
[23:52] <Somelauw> or even http:// ?
[23:52] <dr_willis>  my personal experience is only with Home Lan printers. You are on some sort of business/school network?
[23:52] <Somelauw> dr_willis: yes
[23:52] <Somelauw> I'm on a school/business network
[23:53] <MK`> Hey, for some reason after upgrading I can no longer right click on things in my taskbar, any idea what that could be?
[23:53] <Somelauw> or https:// ?
[23:54] <GRMrGecko> hey look, SP1 is installing:D
[23:55] <dr_willis> MK`:  you are refering to the gnome-classic/fallback mode bars at the top?
[23:56] <microm> I am getting lots of "Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/natty-getdeb" why?
[23:56] <MK`> dr_willis: Yeah, with Applications and Places. I used to be able to right click on there to mount/dismount/eject drives and such
[23:56] <GRMrGecko> So… I had to crash my system in-order to get SP1 to install, then fix and install grub:P
[23:57] <dr_willis> MK`:  the gnome fallback thing dosent have all the features of the old gnome-2, I dont use the fallback mode. so i dont know what all is gone. Theres replacement indicator-applets that give  back some of those functions.
[23:57] <MK`> I see, alright.