[15:07]  * xnox ponders if jodh is lost in testing 1.6.1
[15:22] <xnox> slangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libnih/+bug/672643/comments/2 <--- is your bug.
[15:22] <xnox> with a patch.
[17:03] <slangasek> xnox: sweet, so it was xfs :)
[17:04] <xnox> slangasek: i'm not sure which branches we can merge that patch.
[17:04] <xnox> slangasek: well there are other "popular" filesystems that are affected.
[17:04] <slangasek> xnox: packaging branches only, AIUI Scott is still upstream for libnih
[17:06] <xnox> slangasek: ack. but it does mean that potentially upstart does not do the right thing on xfs/reiserfs and other filesystems.
[17:08] <slangasek> right
[17:08] <slangasek> so we should definitely get that fixed
[17:09] <slangasek> would you mind opening a bug against the Debian package for me?
[17:31] <xnox> slangasek: ok.
[18:23] <slangasek> stgraber, xnox, jodh: so regarding https://code.launchpad.net/~stgraber/upstart/upstart-prctl/+merge/136759
[18:24] <slangasek> has anyone actually talked to the desktop team (and in particular, Ted) about this constraint that upstart jobs won't work on 14.04 until you reboot?
[18:25] <slangasek> this is something they should be involved in discussing, we shouldn't assume we know the right solution for them
[18:25]  * xnox didn't discuss it with -desktop.
[18:25] <xnox> but yeah, I agree we should.
[18:26] <xnox> something like a mail to -devel with cc to seb&ted?
[18:26] <stgraber> I believe we covered it in the spec before we asked the desktop team for feedback, but we didn't get any really useful feedback from them
[18:26] <stgraber> so yeah, might be worth asking specifically about the prctl case
[18:27] <stgraber> and explain exactly what won't work (spawning, events, ... will be fine, it's just respawning and stopping that won't quite work)
[18:27] <stgraber> well, stopping could probably work as long as we don't expect to get SIGCHLD
[18:29] <slangasek> stgraber: well, please reach out to Ted specifically
[18:29] <slangasek> he and his team will be the most impacted, I think, so he needs to understand the implications here
[18:29] <stgraber> ok, will send an e-mail this afternoon and Cc upstart-devel
[18:30] <slangasek> stgraber: perfect, thanks
[22:48] <slangasek> xnox: what is the value of d_type on these filesystems?
[22:49] <slangasek> xnox: is it set to DT_UNKNOWN?
[22:56] <slangasek> xnox: commented on the merge with suggestions for improvement