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goodbyeearlhey everybody01:43
goodbyeearlwhen the next xubuntu version will be outw01:44
goodbyeearl?01:44
Unit193April 2013.01:44
v1adimirright after my (march) birthday hangover passes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases01:47
goodbyeearland sight of we should expect?02:02
v1adimirgoodbyeearl: you could test the daily build maybe with liveusb for example http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ (but i wouldn't try to install it :))02:03
goodbyeearlthank you v1adimir02:05
goodbyeearldo you have any screen shot?02:05
v1adimirno, sry, but it's similar in looks, xfce4.10 and it even inherited the double-displayed mounted partitions that Quantal had (mostly fixed)02:07
v1adimirit's like alpha/beta only, for building software and developing, wouldn't bother with it yet :)02:09
goodbyeearlnice, thank you anyway v1adminir02:15
bynwi'm using xubuntu 12.04 lts ... tumbler doesnt seem to make a thumbnail of all files in a directory. is there a way to force it to reindex a directory?05:12
bynwis anyone actually active right now05:23
Fudgemustnt be05:45
bulletrulzhey i have some qesrions05:50
bulletrulzcan someone tell me how to get the unity appmenu thing like mac on xfce?05:50
bulletrulzanyone?!05:55
bulletrulzNO ONE06:01
bulletrulzok lol06:01
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aaron123guys can someone help me fix this issue - saned disabled edit /etc/default/saned12:31
aaron123when im trying to boot my laptop up12:31
larry__hi, can anyone tell me whatthe fromt screen of 11.04 looks like? ie is it like 10.1 or 12.04 ?13:00
GridCube?13:01
GridCube!explain13:01
GridCubeweird i thought that factoid existed.13:01
GridCubelarry__, explain yourself better please13:01
larry__is ita clean screen with a toolbar atthe top or does it have bouncy icons?13:01
larry__Ie does it look like 10.1 or 12.04?13:02
GridCube12.0413:03
larry__thanks, just found a pic on the web.. pity as i dislike unity. is it possible to install a gnome shell instead?13:07
GridCubeif you do then you will not be using xubuntu13:09
GridCubebut yes you can do whatever you want, dont expect support here though, you will need to find a gnome shell channel13:09
larry__Thanks, i have had  vert trying couple of weeks with 12.04 and ended up reinstalling 10.113:11
larry__Thanks, i have had  very trying couple of weeks with 12.04 and ended up reinstalling 10.113:11
GridCubelarry__, dont worry, we will recommend you to learn to love xfce :313:13
larry__:)13:15
larry__so long as 20+% of the screen isn't p[opulated with bouncy icons13:15
larry__12.04 is fine, just driving  it was like having acar with the gearchange lever in the trunk.13:16
larry__bye for now, thanks for your help13:23
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mahmoud_Any Java developers out there?14:56
PiciYou'd probably find more in ##java14:57
mahmoud_I cannot connect to it.14:58
mahmoud_##java :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services14:58
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apersonso, is the calendar that you get when you click on the clock in the panel orage?16:02
apersonit looks very close to it, but I have my gcal events in orage and they do not show up in the panel calendar16:02
GridCubeaperson, i think its a modified orage, you can however change it to pure orage16:03
apersonI just saw that, actually16:03
GridCubeadd a new item to the desktop and make16:03
GridCubeit orage16:04
apersonit's not as ideal though, but I suppose it can do16:04
apersonit's not as 'neat'16:04
apersonsince it just pops open orage16:04
GridCubeoh, you mean it doesnt mix to the panel16:05
GridCubeyeah, it doesnt do that16:05
apersonright16:05
GridCubethats fixable though16:05
apersonhowso?16:05
GridCubemove it to where you want it to popup and go to Edit > preferences > configurations > "show borders []" and "show menu []"16:07
GridCubeyou can still drag it using alt-clic'n'drag16:07
apersonoh, I must've skipped over that setting16:08
apersonthat's perfect GridCube16:08
apersonthank you16:08
GridCube:D16:08
apersonslightly related: I've found that the default panel clock doesn't update if you use a custom time format16:08
GridCubei always change it to orage because i use a custom time format for the panel so i dont really know16:09
drcaperson: It does for me.16:09
apersondrc, odd.  I had mine be a few hours off until I noticed it16:09
drcMay you need to set it to network time syncing?16:10
apersonno, the system time was correct16:10
apersonas soon as I changed the formatting back to the default, the clock updated again fine16:11
drcah...don't know then, it's always worked for me.16:11
v1adimiraperson: MAYBE check/re-run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata16:11
drcunless you made a mistake in the custom time code and it couldn't use it?16:12
v1adimir(just maybe)16:12
apersonI used the `date` manpage for reference, and this isn't the first time I've made strftime strings16:12
drcJust saying :)16:12
apersonappreciated, of course :)16:13
apersonI don't remember exactly what the format was16:14
apersonbut the one I just set for orage is: %A, %B %d %H:%M16:14
* drc wonders why NTP is not enabled by default?16:14
drcI set mine to %a, %d %b  %H:%M16:14
drcAnd yes the space is on purpose :)16:15
apersonalso, my googling has yielded only outdated projects on this16:16
apersonbut is there a working globalmenu for xfce?16:16
drcGawd I hope not!16:17
apersonjust because you might like it, that doesn't mean others don't :)16:17
apersonI find it terribly redundant to have menus everywhere16:18
apersonI like vertical space too16:18
drcIf it was abosilutely positively <optional> I wouldn't care, but it appears that the balle lines have been drawn and it's either all the time or never :(16:19
drcs/balle/battle16:19
apersonit's the one feature I haven't been able to replicate from kde that I used16:19
apersonwell, besides a decent drop-down terminal, but I'll just continue to use yakuake16:20
v1adimir.. just realized something, having a custom "sources.list" and opening it - can be a way to add the repos ??16:22
GridCubeaperson, there is not work on global menu for xfce, but i hope to find someone willing enough to make HUD available on xfce though :D16:24
v1adimirplease, just ignore me; by all means.16:25
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zodiakhow do I cancel an apt-get install if it is stuck in the 'unmet dependencies' stage ?16:59
zodiakI don't wish to apt-get -f install, as that will bump up my python and break a LOT of my scripts.. I jst want to abort the package I tried to install17:00
zodiakif that makes sense :D17:00
zodiakaahhh.. --force-depends --purge17:01
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twilderHey everyone, I'm an intern tasked with setting up some xubuntu paravirtualized vms on xen. Does xubuntu 12.04 support paravirtualization? Does a xen netboot image exist anywhere? Where might I look for resources on how to do this, I am having trouble turning up anything on google.19:25
Noskcajtwilder, i have know idea what that means but we have one netboot image(around 40mb) and i can install any *buntu OS19:29
twilderTo be honest Noskcaj, neither do I. Otherwise I would just use whatever google turned up haha.19:35
twilderWhere can I find the netboot image?19:35
Noskcajone sec...19:35
knome!netboot19:36
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate19:36
knomehmmph.19:36
Noskcajhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/precise/19:36
Noskcajgo back one for the slightly less stable 12.10 iso19:37
twilderthanks guys, I'll see how this works out19:37
twilderactually a newbish question to add19:39
twilderthat image installs xubuntu?19:39
qasim_hi19:39
twilderor ubuntu running some other default gui?19:39
Noskcajtwilder, you chose if it does after the main install, i doesn;t get any desktop environments by default19:39
twilderoh nice19:40
Noskcajtype "sudo taskel" the select your distro19:40
qasim_i have downloaded xubuntu iso image from xubuntu.org .... im trying to burn that image on the CD ..but i am unable to do it19:40
Noskcajonce installed19:40
twilderthat mirror was in the main instructions, but I have been killing myself trying to find a xen friendly netboot image for specifically xubuntu19:40
Noskcaj? is this the 12.04.1?19:40
qasim_im running ubuntu 6.06 at the moment19:40
Noskcajqasim_, which iso did you get?19:41
qasim_12.1019:41
qasim_xubuntu 12.1019:41
Noskcajok, it should burn fine. have you tryed using a usb?19:41
qasim_actually i have an old laptop it doesnot detect bootable usbs19:42
Noskcajqasim_, ok, is the cd scratch-less19:42
qasim_so i am left with CD boot option only19:42
qasim_i purchased it in the eveing for the purpose19:43
qasim_rather 2 CDs19:43
qasim_and i have tried both19:43
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qasim_the image burner says writing on CD finished after spending 10-15 mins19:43
Noskcajok, md5 the iso, then buy a new burner if that doesn't fix it19:43
qasim_but when i eject and insert it again ...it say the cd is blank19:44
qasim_md5?19:44
Noskcaji will get the command for you now, i dont really understand it myself19:44
Noskcaj!md519:44
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows19:44
qasim_okay thank let me go through it19:45
qasim_ok thank you***19:45
qasim_ubottu thanks i have checked the md5sum19:57
ubottuqasim_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:57
qasim_it matches with the iso file19:57
qasim_lol right.... now how to burn the iso image on a CD19:58
holsteinqasim_: you can check the integrity of the disc after the burn... that checks the md5 sum, the burn and the media19:58
qasim_when i try to burn through CD/DVD creator..it starts the process and says it it burnt the CD but when i insert the CD it is same blank as before burning20:00
puffMy screen is too dim, and I can't find any sort of screen brightness control.20:01
qasim_i am using ubuntu 6.06 version and its inbuilt CD/DVD creator20:01
holsteinqasim_: its a lot like burning *any* cd.. but you need to create an image.. its more like copying a cd.. using the downloaded iso as the source and a cd as the destination20:02
qasim_holstein are you there?20:02
holsteinpuff: usually they are on the keyboard.. you see any on the machine its self?20:02
holsteinqasim_: ?20:03
qasim_i know how to do it in windows..but in linux things are so overwhelming for me20:03
holsteinqasim_: do it in windows then20:03
qasim_i tried but there it says the iso image is corrupt20:03
qasim_i tried it in windows 720:04
holsteinqasim_: it?.. then tell "it" not to check for corruption.. or download a new one. or try a different application to burn.. infrarecorder?20:04
qasim_as i have checked the md5sum ..image is okay20:04
qasim_infra recorder is for windows?20:04
holsteinqasim_: http://infrarecorder.org/20:05
qasim_thank20:05
qasim_thanks*20:05
puffholstein: it's a thinkpad, so fn-home and fn-end should do it. The brightness adjustment icon appears but the brightness doesn't actually change.20:06
holsteinpuff: i would just search the forums by model and see if there is a package you need.. or a grub line to add20:06
puffholstein: Thanks.20:10
qasim_holstein : is there any way to upgrade my existing linux (ubuntu 6.06)?20:22
qasim_am i connected?20:23
holsteinqasim_: i wouldnt.. but in opensource, there is always "a way"20:25
holsteinqasim_: are you connected to what? the chat? yes20:25
holsteinqasim_: its not a bad idea nor waste of time to figure out how to burn an image file to CD20:26
puffqasim_: To upgrade your existing install, you'd have to do six or more upgrades in a row.  You can't just jump from 6.6 to 12.4 or whatever, you have to upgrade sequentially to each version in between.20:37
puffqasim_: You're probably better off just backing up, installing from scratch and copying user data over.20:38
puffqasim_: this might be useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto20:39
puffqasim_: One gotcha to watch out for, generally whatever tool you use to burn a CD/DVD will want to cache an image of the disk to be burned.  So in addition to needing enough free space to download the ISO, you also need additional free space to hold (temporarily) the disk image file.20:43
puffqasim_: There are several linux tools for burning disks, I have tried several, gnomebaker, brasero.  Somebody highly recommended k3b as more reliable, and I have to say I have found k3b to be both reliable and easier to use.20:44
puffSigh.21:22
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