[01:43] <goodbyeearl> hey everybody
[01:44] <goodbyeearl> when the next xubuntu version will be outw
[01:44] <goodbyeearl> ?
[01:44] <Unit193> April 2013.
[01:47] <v1adimir> right after my (march) birthday hangover passes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:02] <goodbyeearl> and sight of we should expect?
[02:03] <v1adimir> goodbyeearl: you could test the daily build maybe with liveusb for example http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ (but i wouldn't try to install it :))
[02:05] <goodbyeearl> thank you v1adimir
[02:05] <goodbyeearl> do you have any screen shot?
[02:07] <v1adimir> no, sry, but it's similar in looks, xfce4.10 and it even inherited the double-displayed mounted partitions that Quantal had (mostly fixed)
[02:09] <v1adimir> it's like alpha/beta only, for building software and developing, wouldn't bother with it yet :)
[02:15] <goodbyeearl> nice, thank you anyway v1adminir
[05:12] <bynw> i'm using xubuntu 12.04 lts ... tumbler doesnt seem to make a thumbnail of all files in a directory. is there a way to force it to reindex a directory?
[05:23] <bynw> is anyone actually active right now
[05:45] <Fudge> mustnt be
[05:50] <bulletrulz> hey i have some qesrions
[05:50] <bulletrulz> can someone tell me how to get the unity appmenu thing like mac on xfce?
[05:55] <bulletrulz> anyone?!
[06:01] <bulletrulz> NO ONE
[06:01] <bulletrulz> ok lol
[12:31] <aaron123> guys can someone help me fix this issue - saned disabled edit /etc/default/saned
[12:31] <aaron123> when im trying to boot my laptop up
[13:00] <larry__> hi, can anyone tell me whatthe fromt screen of 11.04 looks like? ie is it like 10.1 or 12.04 ?
[13:01] <GridCube> ?
[13:01] <GridCube> !explain
[13:01] <GridCube> weird i thought that factoid existed.
[13:01] <GridCube> larry__, explain yourself better please
[13:01] <larry__> is ita clean screen with a toolbar atthe top or does it have bouncy icons?
[13:02] <larry__> Ie does it look like 10.1 or 12.04?
[13:03] <GridCube> 12.04
[13:07] <larry__> thanks, just found a pic on the web.. pity as i dislike unity. is it possible to install a gnome shell instead?
[13:09] <GridCube> if you do then you will not be using xubuntu
[13:09] <GridCube> but yes you can do whatever you want, dont expect support here though, you will need to find a gnome shell channel
[13:11] <larry__> Thanks, i have had  vert trying couple of weeks with 12.04 and ended up reinstalling 10.1
[13:11] <larry__> Thanks, i have had  very trying couple of weeks with 12.04 and ended up reinstalling 10.1
[13:13] <GridCube> larry__, dont worry, we will recommend you to learn to love xfce :3
[13:15] <larry__> :)
[13:15] <larry__> so long as 20+% of the screen isn't p[opulated with bouncy icons
[13:16] <larry__> 12.04 is fine, just driving  it was like having acar with the gearchange lever in the trunk.
[13:23] <larry__> bye for now, thanks for your help
[14:56] <mahmoud_> Any Java developers out there?
[14:57] <Pici> You'd probably find more in ##java
[14:58] <mahmoud_> I cannot connect to it.
[14:58] <mahmoud_> ##java :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[14:59] <Pici> !register
[16:02] <aperson> so, is the calendar that you get when you click on the clock in the panel orage?
[16:02] <aperson> it looks very close to it, but I have my gcal events in orage and they do not show up in the panel calendar
[16:03] <GridCube> aperson, i think its a modified orage, you can however change it to pure orage
[16:03] <aperson> I just saw that, actually
[16:03] <GridCube> add a new item to the desktop and make
[16:04] <GridCube> it orage
[16:04] <aperson> it's not as ideal though, but I suppose it can do
[16:04] <aperson> it's not as 'neat'
[16:04] <aperson> since it just pops open orage
[16:05] <GridCube> oh, you mean it doesnt mix to the panel
[16:05] <GridCube> yeah, it doesnt do that
[16:05] <aperson> right
[16:05] <GridCube> thats fixable though
[16:05] <aperson> howso?
[16:07] <GridCube> move it to where you want it to popup and go to Edit > preferences > configurations > "show borders []" and "show menu []"
[16:07] <GridCube> you can still drag it using alt-clic'n'drag
[16:08] <aperson> oh, I must've skipped over that setting
[16:08] <aperson> that's perfect GridCube
[16:08] <aperson> thank you
[16:08] <GridCube> :D
[16:08] <aperson> slightly related: I've found that the default panel clock doesn't update if you use a custom time format
[16:09] <GridCube> i always change it to orage because i use a custom time format for the panel so i dont really know
[16:09] <drc> aperson: It does for me.
[16:09] <aperson> drc, odd.  I had mine be a few hours off until I noticed it
[16:10] <drc> May you need to set it to network time syncing?
[16:10] <aperson> no, the system time was correct
[16:11] <aperson> as soon as I changed the formatting back to the default, the clock updated again fine
[16:11] <drc> ah...don't know then, it's always worked for me.
[16:11] <v1adimir> aperson: MAYBE check/re-run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[16:12] <drc> unless you made a mistake in the custom time code and it couldn't use it?
[16:12] <v1adimir> (just maybe)
[16:12] <aperson> I used the `date` manpage for reference, and this isn't the first time I've made strftime strings
[16:12] <drc> Just saying :)
[16:13] <aperson> appreciated, of course :)
[16:14] <aperson> I don't remember exactly what the format was
[16:14] <aperson> but the one I just set for orage is: %A, %B %d %H:%M
[16:14]  * drc wonders why NTP is not enabled by default?
[16:14] <drc> I set mine to %a, %d %b  %H:%M
[16:15] <drc> And yes the space is on purpose :)
[16:16] <aperson> also, my googling has yielded only outdated projects on this
[16:16] <aperson> but is there a working globalmenu for xfce?
[16:17] <drc> Gawd I hope not!
[16:17] <aperson> just because you might like it, that doesn't mean others don't :)
[16:18] <aperson> I find it terribly redundant to have menus everywhere
[16:18] <aperson> I like vertical space too
[16:19] <drc> If it was abosilutely positively <optional> I wouldn't care, but it appears that the balle lines have been drawn and it's either all the time or never :(
[16:19] <drc> s/balle/battle
[16:19] <aperson> it's the one feature I haven't been able to replicate from kde that I used
[16:20] <aperson> well, besides a decent drop-down terminal, but I'll just continue to use yakuake
[16:22] <v1adimir> .. just realized something, having a custom "sources.list" and opening it - can be a way to add the repos ??
[16:24] <GridCube> aperson, there is not work on global menu for xfce, but i hope to find someone willing enough to make HUD available on xfce though :D
[16:25] <v1adimir> please, just ignore me; by all means.
[16:59] <zodiak> how do I cancel an apt-get install if it is stuck in the 'unmet dependencies' stage ?
[17:00] <zodiak> I don't wish to apt-get -f install, as that will bump up my python and break a LOT of my scripts.. I jst want to abort the package I tried to install
[17:00] <zodiak> if that makes sense :D
[17:01] <zodiak> aahhh.. --force-depends --purge
[19:25] <twilder> Hey everyone, I'm an intern tasked with setting up some xubuntu paravirtualized vms on xen. Does xubuntu 12.04 support paravirtualization? Does a xen netboot image exist anywhere? Where might I look for resources on how to do this, I am having trouble turning up anything on google.
[19:29] <Noskcaj> twilder, i have know idea what that means but we have one netboot image(around 40mb) and i can install any *buntu OS
[19:35] <twilder> To be honest Noskcaj, neither do I. Otherwise I would just use whatever google turned up haha.
[19:35] <twilder> Where can I find the netboot image?
[19:35] <Noskcaj> one sec...
[19:36] <knome> !netboot
[19:36] <knome> hmmph.
[19:36] <Noskcaj> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/precise/
[19:37] <Noskcaj> go back one for the slightly less stable 12.10 iso
[19:37] <twilder> thanks guys, I'll see how this works out
[19:39] <twilder> actually a newbish question to add
[19:39] <twilder> that image installs xubuntu?
[19:39] <qasim_> hi
[19:39] <twilder> or ubuntu running some other default gui?
[19:39] <Noskcaj> twilder, you chose if it does after the main install, i doesn;t get any desktop environments by default
[19:40] <twilder> oh nice
[19:40] <Noskcaj> type "sudo taskel" the select your distro
[19:40] <qasim_> i have downloaded xubuntu iso image from xubuntu.org .... im trying to burn that image on the CD ..but i am unable to do it
[19:40] <Noskcaj> once installed
[19:40] <twilder> that mirror was in the main instructions, but I have been killing myself trying to find a xen friendly netboot image for specifically xubuntu
[19:40] <Noskcaj> ? is this the 12.04.1?
[19:40] <qasim_> im running ubuntu 6.06 at the moment
[19:41] <Noskcaj> qasim_, which iso did you get?
[19:41] <qasim_> 12.10
[19:41] <qasim_> xubuntu 12.10
[19:41] <Noskcaj> ok, it should burn fine. have you tryed using a usb?
[19:42] <qasim_> actually i have an old laptop it doesnot detect bootable usbs
[19:42] <Noskcaj> qasim_, ok, is the cd scratch-less
[19:42] <qasim_> so i am left with CD boot option only
[19:43] <qasim_> i purchased it in the eveing for the purpose
[19:43] <qasim_> rather 2 CDs
[19:43] <qasim_> and i have tried both
[19:43] <qasim_> the image burner says writing on CD finished after spending 10-15 mins
[19:43] <Noskcaj> ok, md5 the iso, then buy a new burner if that doesn't fix it
[19:44] <qasim_> but when i eject and insert it again ...it say the cd is blank
[19:44] <qasim_> md5?
[19:44] <Noskcaj> i will get the command for you now, i dont really understand it myself
[19:44] <Noskcaj> !md5
[19:45] <qasim_> okay thank let me go through it
[19:45] <qasim_> ok thank you***
[19:57] <qasim_> ubottu thanks i have checked the md5sum
[19:57] <qasim_> it matches with the iso file
[19:58] <qasim_> lol right.... now how to burn the iso image on a CD
[19:58] <holstein> qasim_: you can check the integrity of the disc after the burn... that checks the md5 sum, the burn and the media
[20:00] <qasim_> when i try to burn through CD/DVD creator..it starts the process and says it it burnt the CD but when i insert the CD it is same blank as before burning
[20:01] <puff> My screen is too dim, and I can't find any sort of screen brightness control.
[20:01] <qasim_> i am using ubuntu 6.06 version and its inbuilt CD/DVD creator
[20:02] <holstein> qasim_: its a lot like burning *any* cd.. but you need to create an image.. its more like copying a cd.. using the downloaded iso as the source and a cd as the destination
[20:02] <qasim_> holstein are you there?
[20:02] <holstein> puff: usually they are on the keyboard.. you see any on the machine its self?
[20:03] <holstein> qasim_: ?
[20:03] <qasim_> i know how to do it in windows..but in linux things are so overwhelming for me
[20:03] <holstein> qasim_: do it in windows then
[20:03] <qasim_> i tried but there it says the iso image is corrupt
[20:04] <qasim_> i tried it in windows 7
[20:04] <holstein> qasim_: it?.. then tell "it" not to check for corruption.. or download a new one. or try a different application to burn.. infrarecorder?
[20:04] <qasim_> as i have checked the md5sum ..image is okay
[20:04] <qasim_> infra recorder is for windows?
[20:05] <holstein> qasim_: http://infrarecorder.org/
[20:05] <qasim_> thank
[20:05] <qasim_> thanks*
[20:06] <puff> holstein: it's a thinkpad, so fn-home and fn-end should do it. The brightness adjustment icon appears but the brightness doesn't actually change.
[20:06] <holstein> puff: i would just search the forums by model and see if there is a package you need.. or a grub line to add
[20:10] <puff> holstein: Thanks.
[20:22] <qasim_> holstein : is there any way to upgrade my existing linux (ubuntu 6.06)?
[20:23] <qasim_> am i connected?
[20:25] <holstein> qasim_: i wouldnt.. but in opensource, there is always "a way"
[20:25] <holstein> qasim_: are you connected to what? the chat? yes
[20:26] <holstein> qasim_: its not a bad idea nor waste of time to figure out how to burn an image file to CD
[20:37] <puff> qasim_: To upgrade your existing install, you'd have to do six or more upgrades in a row.  You can't just jump from 6.6 to 12.4 or whatever, you have to upgrade sequentially to each version in between.
[20:38] <puff> qasim_: You're probably better off just backing up, installing from scratch and copying user data over.
[20:39] <puff> qasim_: this might be useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[20:43] <puff> qasim_: One gotcha to watch out for, generally whatever tool you use to burn a CD/DVD will want to cache an image of the disk to be burned.  So in addition to needing enough free space to download the ISO, you also need additional free space to hold (temporarily) the disk image file.
[20:44] <puff> qasim_: There are several linux tools for burning disks, I have tried several, gnomebaker, brasero.  Somebody highly recommended k3b as more reliable, and I have to say I have found k3b to be both reliable and easier to use.
[21:22] <puff> Sigh.