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vibhavGood Morning07:18
dholbachgood morning07:31
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czajkowskiAloha08:56
dholbachballoons, do you think we should have a session about autopilot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable?12:04
czajkowskidpm: do you think we can do a join post on the launchpad blog calling for help for people to take over the translations team/answers on LP ?12:17
dpmczajkowski, that might work, yes, although traditionally folks have had more interest in managing the ubuntu translations questions rather than the launchpad ones12:22
czajkowskiah I seee12:22
czajkowskihmm12:22
czajkowskithat would have been ok a long time ago when the squads looked after areas, now that isn't the same any more. so just trying to make sure it doesnt fall by the wayside12:22
dpmwe can do a call for people to join the launchpad-translations-coordinators team. I think it's a good idea, I'm just trying to set the expectations, as Translations have been unmantained for quite a long time now, and translators have lost interest in Launchpad (except for translating Ubuntu). However, if a blog post can help reviving the LP Translations community, let's go for it.12:27
smartboyhwdpm, hmm a question: How much translations must a person do to eligible to join the coordinators team then?12:29
czajkowskidpm: nods12:29
czajkowskiI do the pot reviews every day thats fine12:29
czajkowskiit was more just the adding new languages and questions I want to make sure is covered still. I do some but in case I'm not around12:29
jussiis anyone aware of 10" tablets that you can install ubuntu on? Only one I know is the smartq t20...14:52
SergioMenesesballoons, around?15:07
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jcastro_hey jono15:52
jonohey jcastro_15:53
jcastro_hey so I got invited to a call w/ design wrt. juju stuff, mind if I go first?15:53
jcastro_assuming we're going in 7 minutes15:53
jonojcastro_, sure16:00
jonodholbach, dpm, mhall119, balloons, jcastro_ meeting time!16:00
balloonsweee!16:00
jonodo we have the meeting bot here?16:00
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jonowoo!16:00
dpmok!16:00
jonowelcome folks to the community team meeting16:01
jonoso normally we do the roundtable summaries of what each member of the team has been working on, and I figured we would spin through these and just provide some short summaries and then move onto agenda items16:01
jonojcastro_, want to go first?16:01
dholbachjono, yep, back again - just finished a hangout-on-air :)16:02
jcastro_sure, one sec16:02
jcastro_# Welcome to Jorge's Weekly IRC Report16:02
jcastro_This week's report brought to you by Africa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP8m6mYRJiU16:02
jcastro_## Doing16:02
jcastro_ - Doc/website/charmweb reorganization still in process. This is bigger than I anticipated when I decided to Just Do It(tm). Oh well, at least it's better than it was before. Work in progress with design/IS/other Juju folks on next steps.16:02
jcastro_ - Charms landing soon:16:03
jonodholbach, :-)16:03
jcastro_   - marcoceppi's mediawiki work16:03
jcastro_   - marcoceppi's "add apache to wordpress" work16:03
jcastro_   - Charms fixes from IS and across the board from Canonical in general16:03
jcastro_** strategic pause **16:03
jcastro_## Done16:03
jcastro_ - OID plugin for forums done, IS is deploying this now in test. Last I saw there were some problems with the templates needing to be fixed? Anyone know or look into this?16:03
jcastro_ - Talk submitted for SCaLE 11x16:03
jcastro_ - All Charm shows/conferences planned for 2k13 - AWW YEAH.16:03
jcastro_ - Queue is in awesome shape, especially after getting crushed after UDS.16:03
jcastro_ - Sent "State of the Juju" summary to -devel and -news, getting more info out to people who might not be following closely.16:03
jcastro_and finally:16:04
jcastro_## TODO16:04
jcastro_ - Doc reorged with evilnick, need to actually do that, but can't do it in a vacuum (dependencies on maas docs, what everyone else is doing so we don't have docs different from everyone else - docs make me want to stab bunnies.)16:04
jcastro_ - "Queueify" nearly every charm process as part of the charm onramp.16:04
jcastro_ - Need to follow up with mramm on a Pyramid charm16:04
jcastro_ - Update OpenStack provider stuff.16:04
jcastro_ - Redeploy juju.u.c on prodstack with mbarnett16:04
jcastro_ - Mark Mims is now a member; this should bring more charm information to planet.16:04
jcastro_ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? (Any questions?)16:04
jonoany questions for jcastro_?16:05
jonono?16:05
jcastro_\o/16:05
jonook, dholbach, want to go next?16:06
dpm\m/16:06
dpmjono, dholbach just came from a hangout on air, I can go next16:06
dholbachthanks dpm - still finishing some small bits in my notes16:06
jonocool16:07
jonogo ahead dpm16:07
dpmok, then if it's ok, I'll go for it16:07
dpmk16:07
dpmIt's been a short week for me, as I've just come back from a long bank holiday.16:07
dpmHere are some highlights on what I spent some of my last week:16:08
dpm- Started setting up a staging djangosnippets.org instance to assess if it would work for the snippets section on d.u.c (still ongoing)16:08
dpm- Prepared some content updates for d.u.c (still ongoing)16:09
dpm- Worked with the Comms team to get more community participation in user stories16:09
dpmOn that last one, we'll write a blog post with more info soon16:09
dpmbut in the meantime, if you know anyone that uses Ubuntu for their professional work, do get them in touch with me16:10
dpmOther bits and pieces:16:10
dpm- Escalated bug 1045691 and bug 1081504 affecting Extras apps16:10
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1045691 in Ubuntu Apps Directory "Swapped short description and name for extras.u.c apps" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104569116:10
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1081504 in Ubuntu Apps Directory "Extras apps do not use the provided icon" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108150416:10
dpm- Documented how raw HTML docs are published on developer.ubuntu.com for jcastro and dholbach16:10
dpm- Helped aquarius a bit with some questions he had about the Quickly QtQuick template16:11
dpmAnd that's mostly it, short update this time. Any questions?16:11
jonoany questions for dpm?16:12
jonook16:13
jonodholbach, !16:13
dholbachI can go now. :-)16:13
dholbachyoohoo!16:13
dholbach - Ubuntu Packaging Guide: available in Spanish and soon in Russian - see it in all its glory: developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/ - took over publishing the guide on developer.u.c from David16:13
dholbach - Ubuntu Developer Week: planning started, schedule 50% filled, will happen end of January16:14
dholbach - Automated Testing Hack fest: discussions, updated list of required tests, some more planning and announced for Thursday16:14
dholbach - ubuntudev Hangouts: are getting more and more popular - last I interviewed Rick Spencer and Iain Lane, coming up: Didier Roche and Chris Wilson16:14
dholbach - Bug fixing initiatives: wrote a script to get data from the lintian test runs automatically into Harvest, so we don't have to update wiki pages manually - we need some more small fixes in Harvest to makes this a little  bit more effective though16:15
dholbach - Nexus7 team: meetings, discussed memory consumption measurement, did quite a bit of testing myself - raring installs perfectly now16:15
dholbach - Dev Advisory Team: business as usual, reaching out to contributors and helping them to put their dev applications together, published report about last cycle, planning how we deal with contributor data in the future, so we analyse less data manually16:15
dholbach - +1 maintenance team: started discussions with Adam Conrad on how we can get more people involved in keeping ubuntu+1 working smoothly16:16
dholbachThe above were the bigger pieces of works, the rest were lots of small things here and there as usual. :)16:16
dholbachAny questions?16:16
jonoany questions for dholbach?16:17
jonoballoons, you are up :-)16:18
balloonsexcellent16:18
balloonsI've got no ascii art or other special effects atm, so boom, here we go16:18
balloonsWORKING:16:18
balloonsWorking with many different folks on writing new testscases (autopilot and manual) ;-)16:18
balloonsI've very happy to see everyone diving in on this, and look forward to showcasing some of the work in our next cadence week (no pressue)16:19
balloonsDeployed revised testcases for iso -- more focused tests, with extra features split out to a specific testcase and removed from all tests (thanks to Carla for these)16:19
balloonsthere's still a bit more work here, but in general, the tests (while more focused and more of them), should be shorter and to the point16:19
balloonsas of this morning, deploying new hardware testcases written by Sergio.. thanks mate16:20
balloonsalso, the next pieces of the autopilot guide are in the oven16:21
balloonsand finally, Cadence Week 2 -- raring style is in full swing.. shotwell, network manager and the iso tests are all on the table16:21
balloonsCOMING SOON:16:21
balloonsfirst pass at quality summary on qa dashboard16:21
balloonsthe qa dashboard itself landed last week, and it looks nice.. I'll be adding a pretty summary to make interperting things about quality easier16:22
balloonsand finally I wanted to start mentioning the classroom series for QA we'll be doing in Janurary16:22
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balloonsSessions on bugs, testing, and doing QA -- and you don't even have to listen to me. Many are being done by other community folks, ;-p16:23
balloonsThat's all folks!16:23
dholbachwhere's the autopilot guide going to live?16:24
balloonsdholbach, I would like to migrate it somewhere once completed.. need to talk with thomi about the overall documentation plan for autopilot16:24
balloonsfor now, I'm focused on simply getting documentation out16:25
balloonsand of course, getting real world use!16:25
dholbachsure16:25
dholbachlet's talk about it once you have all the content ready :)16:25
balloons(I'm open to ideas -- in fact, I need to ask you about lumping tests into packages)16:25
jonoballoons, any more status?16:25
balloonsI'm status'd out methinks16:26
jonook16:26
jonomhall119, you are up!16:26
jonoif mhall119 is here...16:26
jonohe said he might not make it16:26
jonook16:27
jonoI guess not :-)16:27
jono * General16:27
jono  - Was on paternity leave for a few weeks.16:27
jono  - 13.04 plan looking good. Started to delve into the work items.16:27
jono  - Syncing up with team members after paternity.16:28
jono * Community Website16:28
jono  - Working with Mike to get a canonistack instance up.16:28
jono  - Docs day scheduled for Thursday.16:28
jono * Events:16:28
jono  - General prep for CES.16:28
jono  - Planning participation at the next UDS, sprints and some other conferences.16:28
jono * Privacy Concerns16:28
jono  - Raising the concerns internally and trying to get a better response out of Canonical.16:28
jono  - Responding to press enquiries.16:28
jono * Juju16:28
jono  - Reaching out to businesses to encourage Juju adoption.16:29
jono  - Syncing up internally around charm QA drive.16:29
jono * LoCos:16:29
jono  - Started to get things rolling to help LoCo teams.16:29
jono  - Call with Randall Ross on Friday.16:29
jono  - Meeting with the team to identify LoCo participation in team work.16:29
jono  - Coordinated with Daniel around the ADK - keen to discuss this in the meeting.16:29
jono * Accomplishments:16:29
jono  - Server is provisioneed by IS.16:29
jono  - Working with Mike today to get the instructions written ready for IS to deploy.16:29
jonoany questions?16:29
jonoalright16:30
jonoany agenda items to discuss?16:30
dholbachI'm all set.16:30
dpmI've no items this week16:31
jonook, I wanted to discuss LoCo Teams16:31
jonoczajkowski, are you here?16:31
jonorrnwexec, are you here too?16:31
rrnwexecpresent :)16:31
jonocool :-)16:31
czajkowski<-- on stand up with boss16:31
jonoczajkowski, np16:31
jonoso I think we can do a better job helping to support our LoCo Teams to do great work16:32
jonoand when I say "we", I mean my team16:32
jonobut I think we need to work with our wider community to help do this16:32
jonoone concern I have is communication16:32
jonoI don't really see much communication on loco-contacts16:32
jonoand that list was primarily intended for support and teams helping each other16:33
jonoI wanted to suggest we direct people to Ask Ubuntu16:33
jonojcastro_, are LoCos using Ask Ubuntu much?16:33
dholbachWhat kind of communication would we like to see? Inter-team discussions? Announcements? Conference reports?16:33
rrnwexeci think they are using it, but not in the context of LoCo related (organizing events, projects, etc) work16:33
jonorrnwexec, right16:34
jonoit seems there are a few types of comms:16:34
jono1. general chatter about the community16:34
jono2. asking questions about how to do things16:34
jono3. presenting things the team has done16:34
jonomy inclination is that for 1. we have IRC and lists16:34
jonofor 2. we recommend people use Ask Ubuntu with a tag16:35
jonoand 3. we discuss the best way to raise the profile of work that people are doing16:35
jcastro_jono: there's a tag, but not often16:35
jonojcastro_, ok gotcha16:35
dholbachAskUbuntu could be great, as general tips for making an event rock won't change much over time16:35
jonodholbach, exactly16:35
jonoand Ask Ubuntu has a good following of users and is indexed on the web16:35
cprofittjono: in regards to ask ubuntu -- we had tried to build in some ability for LoCos to detect people using aksubuntu in their area, but I am not sure if that has been completed16:36
cprofittthe attempts I worked on with jcastro_ did not work out as planned -- using the query engine16:36
jcastro_http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/locoteams16:36
jonocprofitt, I mean more that people ask general questions and our general community responds on there16:36
jcastro_there's good content there already16:36
jcastro_it's just not as used as it could be16:36
jonoso this seems a simple thing we can try out16:37
jcastro_though, remember AU is english only, LoCos aren't16:37
rrnwexecthat would be outstanding cprofitt. we've experimented with that here (vancouver) on Launchpad Answers by inserting the word Vancouver in our questions16:37
jonojcastro_, this is true, but our current resources and docs are english too16:37
* jcastro_ nods16:37
rrnwexecand as a result that has built up a small, local tech support team16:37
jcastro_I was just pointing it out16:37
jonoyup16:37
cprofittjono: I understand -- I think the loco teams do point people  there, but if there was a way for me to see the people that identified themselves as being in my LoCo area it would help me plan events that aligned with the issues users were having16:37
jonocprofitt, ahhh I see16:37
jonocprofitt, that would be cool16:38
skellatAre we writing off the LoCo forums, then?16:38
jonojcastro_, you know that thing you showed me where AU questions are embedded in a site....16:38
jonoI wonder if we could do that on loco.ubuntu.com16:38
jonoskellat, not writing off anything16:38
cprofittjono: we got close the query engine, but had some false data results....16:38
jcastro_yea, the stacktack, it's just JS16:38
jonoskellat, just identifying the most likely avenue of support16:38
cprofittI think the goal was to add the latest questions to loco.ubuntu.com if we got it working well.16:38
skellatOkay jono16:39
jonoskellat, the challenge here I think is that we point people to some resources with not many folks to answer questions16:39
jonoe.g. loco-contacts doesn't get much traffic16:39
jonowhereas Ask Ubuntu is generally really good for getting responses16:39
rrnwexecand mailing lists aren't indexed, etc.16:39
jonoand the responses are editing and almost become articles16:39
jonoso I have another question for input on16:40
jonothe real challenge in my list above I think is (3)16:40
jonohow do we raise the visability of great work going on the community/16:40
jono?16:40
cprofittI agree jono16:40
jononow, we did add a feature to loco.ubuntu.com to show blog posts16:40
jonobut I am wondering if it would make more sense to simply point people to reddit16:41
rrnwexecon (3), a weekly showcase would help. and opening up the loco.ubuntu.com more widely would too16:41
jonoideally we want some kind of planet ubuntu type site for great loco work16:41
skellatA big part of raising visibility is going people to open up and tell what they've been doing.  We've been having trouble with that in Ohio where folks have been hiding their lights, so to say.16:41
rrnwexecright now the loco. site is fairly closed, no?16:41
czajkowskiNo"16:42
cprofittrrnwexec: I would not call it closed16:42
czajkowskiit's nto closed at all16:42
rrnwexecwho can post to it?16:42
jonoit is not closed in that people can add feeds, but you need to have your feed added16:42
jonoit is not open in the same way reddit is16:42
czajkowskiyes but adding a feed takes all of 2 seconds16:42
jonoskellat, totally agree16:42
cprofittI think there is pretty good ability to add certain types of content to the loco page, the issue is more a lack of developers to create 'new' features... I am happy with what I am able to do on the loco page16:42
jonoczajkowski, right, but I am wondering why we don't just point people at /r/Ubuntu16:43
cprofittand have no issues opening the page up to additoinal members of mine16:43
jonoand then we get the general Ubuntu crowd viewing the posts too16:43
jonojust an idea16:43
czajkowskinot everyone reads reddit16:43
czajkowskime I rarely do, others do16:43
* cprofitt nods in agreement with czajkowski 16:43
jonoczajkowski, not every reads l.u.c :-)16:43
dholbachcould loco.u.c get a "feed" from reddit?16:43
jonoI would argue that more people read reddit16:43
jonobut I have no evidence on that16:44
skellatjono, east of the Mississippi Reddit gets fairly inaccessible whenever bad weather strikes Amazon's data centers in Virginia.  For me it is down more often than up.16:44
czajkowskimaybe but also find a lot of reddit is jsut spam16:44
jonoczajkowski, really?16:44
jonothat hasn't been my experience16:44
czajkowskiyeah16:44
rrnwexeci find the dialtone on Reddit to be quite negative16:44
jonoand if there is spam it gets downvoted16:44
dholbachwherever we want good content to live we will need a way of flagging something as "awesome loco content", right?16:44
cprofittI almost never read reddit16:44
jonothere are definitely some muppets on reddit, rrnwexec :-)16:44
czajkowskiI've also had this disussion with others via twitter and seemingly it depends on the community, but from my experience it's a bit crap16:44
rrnwexecwe call it "Ribbit" locally ;)16:44
czajkowskianyways back to work16:44
jonothe benefit of loco.ubuntu.com is that it is branded16:45
balloonsis everyone agreed that something pre-existing should be embraced as opposed to making another feed?16:45
rrnwexeci think we're on the right track with loco.ubuntu.com, but feel it needs more life and zing.16:45
balloonsor perhaps not16:45
jonothe disadvantage is that there is no discussion there16:45
rrnwexeccan we insert a discussion widget?16:45
skellatjono: What sort of discussion would you like, though?16:45
czajkowskiwould it not end up in the same circular disussion16:46
jonoskellat, I think it would be awesome if posts on l.u.c had a small disqus widget so our community can discuss the post16:46
rrnwexec+116:46
czajkowskiwho will moderate the discussion16:47
jonoso maybe we have another push on l.u.c and see what we can do16:47
snap-l(I'd prefer more activity on l.u.c personally)16:47
jonoczajkowski, usually people self moderate with the ratings16:47
jonolike any other disqus site16:47
cprofittI would like to see traffice increased to l.u.c as well... that way events become more visible16:47
jonoso I think we should push l.u.c and see what we can do there16:47
rrnwexeci think moderation is a secondary concern. if the content shows up and people get excited, the moderators will step-forward to help16:47
jonoadd a disqus widget to each post and encourage more feeds on there16:47
jonorrnwexec, agreed16:48
jonoI will see if I can rope mhall119 into adding the widget16:48
jonoI will bribe him with BBQ16:48
cprofittis there a way to add feeds to each loco team or just the main site?16:48
jonocprofitt, sure, if a loco has a news feed16:48
jonoczajkowski, how do feeds get added?16:49
jonoand who can add them? the LC?16:49
czajkowskihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds16:49
cprofittI guess what I would like to see, for a team, is the ability to add feeds that just show up on the NY team site.16:49
jonook, so the LC16:49
jonocool16:50
cprofittperhaps allowing some folks that are part of the team to have their blogs visible on the team page16:50
jonocprofitt, that seems pretty simple16:50
jonoas the feed in the system is associated with a team16:50
jonosee how the posts on l.u.c show the team associated16:50
dholbachit'd be great if we could flag certain posts as being interesting16:50
jonoit should be simple to show those feeds on the team page16:50
jonodholbach, totally16:50
dholbachor maybe blogs with a certain tag16:50
bkerensawe could also add google+ feeds to l.u.c the code is actually there its just nobody has had time to review it https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+bug/99614016:50
ubot2`Launchpad bug 996140 in LoCo Team Portal "Google+ Post Aggregation via Javascript" [Undecided,In progress]16:50
jonodholbach, maybe a "thankyou" button16:50
dholbachsorry, blog posts with a certain tag16:50
dholbachso we don't get "everything X writes about" but just "cool LoCo stuff X blogs about"16:51
jonoI agree with you folks, I think l.u.c is the place to do this16:51
cprofittdholbach +116:51
jonodholbach, we already do that16:51
jonodholbach, we ask folks to set up feeds for a tag for just loco posts16:51
cprofittI think of two members I have that are not Ubuntu members, but they blog16:51
dholbachah ok16:52
cprofittit would be cool to have people going to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-ny to see their stuff16:52
jonocprofitt, you don't have to be an ubuntu member on l.u.c16:52
dholbachignore me then :)16:52
jonocprofitt, that should be simple to do16:52
cprofittjono: I know... but not sure people in another team would want to see their stuff16:52
jonook, so it sounds like the following we need to do:16:52
jono * add disqus comments on posts16:52
jono * grow the number of feeds16:52
jono * show team posts on the team page16:52
jonoyou folks mind if I raise another topic?16:53
rrnwexecas an aside: i'm still disappointed in this response to Vancouver's feed: "Denied (added indirectly via ubuntu-ca - sorry!) (prt)" Can someone fix that? It's hard to be excited when shut down ;)16:53
snap-l(is there a way to integrate with Picasa as well outside of an individual address on l.u.c)16:53
jonorrnwexec, what was that?16:53
dholbachmaybe we should file bugs on loco.u.c after this meeting16:54
rrnwexechttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds <-- just found it here16:54
jonodoes that mean the content appears as part of the feed from ubuntu-ca?16:54
rrnwexecthere is no content coming out of there as far as i know16:54
jonorrnwexec, if the content is duplicated I agree we shouldnt have two feeds, but if not, then it should be fine to add that feed IMHO16:55
rrnwexecwe can resolve offline though. let's keep the meeting moving :)16:55
jonook cool16:55
jonoso a quick topic:16:55
jonoa little while back I suggested the idea of an advocacy development kit16:55
jonowhich is:16:55
jono * a downloadable zip file including all the logos, posters, documentation and advice you need to perform advocacy16:56
jono * this could be shared with people easily16:56
jono * it can be available in your own language16:56
jonoI think we need another meeting to discuss this more, but is anyone interested in helping out with it?16:56
jonoit would basically involve writing documentation and assembling great content16:56
jonoI figured we will put together a first cut and see if it works16:57
bkerensaWould this be like an official kit with content different from that on spreadubuntu?16:57
dholbachyou should be able to branch lp:ubuntu-adk and just add new content by just proposing a branch - it's also instantly translatable in LP16:57
cprofittkind of like the 'media kits' games have for fans?16:58
jonobkerensa, the idea is that it will take the very best bits from spreadubuntu...a few posters, a few banners etc16:58
jonokind of how Ubuntu ships a default text editor but you can get more in the USC16:58
jonothe ADK would ship a few posters and point to SU for more16:58
jonobut the idea is that it makes it really simple for someone to get started16:58
jonoand provides a fun project we as a LoCo community can contribute to16:59
bkerensanice16:59
jono:-)16:59
jonodholbach, put together a first cut16:59
jonoI will put up a blog entry about the idea today16:59
jonoI think it could be pretty awesome16:59
jonoand other projects could use it too16:59
bkerensaso to save some work on the documentation part it might be an idea to take some of the Ubuntu Leadership Documentation covering events and use that to help16:59
jonobkerensa, oh totally17:00
jonowe would port most of the docs to the ADK17:00
dholbachbkerensa, yes and some docs from the wiki.u.c/LoCo name space17:00
bkerensayeah17:00
jonowhich then gets us the benefit that people can translate them and have their own language ADK if they want17:00
dholbachyes yes yes! :)17:00
bkerensawhat format would documentation be in? PDF or Text Files?17:00
bkerensaI guess thats a little to technical at this point :)17:00
jonothe basic idea is that the adk branch in LP is where the source content is and when you run 'make' it spits out ADKs for each languagte17:00
bkerensasounds like a great idea17:00
dholbachwe can generate all of them, but HTML might be best in the beginning17:01
jonobkerensa, it is in restructured text as source but it spits out HTML and could spit out a PDF17:01
jonoI like the idea that it generates both HTML for online viewing and a PDF for an e-book reader17:01
bkerensaUbuntu California has something like an ADK and Oregon kind of copied them to some degree17:01
bkerensawe just dont have doc17:01
jonobkerensa, oh sweet17:01
jonobkerensa, so maybe we could collaborate around this centrally17:01
jonosorry, I have to run to a meeting17:01
jonoI will schedule another specific ADK meeting later this week17:01
jonoand then we can delve into it more17:01
jono#endmeeting17:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-community-team to: Work Items: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html || Don't forget to "flesh them out a little bit" || Community Trello: http://goo.gl/n4or5 (experiment) || Things to work on (in order): work items || dpm's channel: http://goo.gl/o2IR5
meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Dec 11 17:02:02 2012 UTC.17:02
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jonothanks for joining everyone!17:02
dholbachthanks a bunch!17:02
bkerensas/meeting/warm hotdogs :)17:02
dholbachjono, I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-adk/+bug/1088993 - you might want to jump in and add your ideas17:03
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1088993 in Ubuntu Advocacy Development Toolkit "Change directory structure within .zip files" [Undecided,New]17:03
bkerensadholbach: BSP on Sunday :)17:03
dholbachbkerensa, yep, read about it :)17:03
dholbachall right my friends - I'll have to rush now, have to catch a train to Berlin :)17:04
dholbachsee you all tomorrow17:04
jonodholbach, will do17:04
bkerensadholbach: gnight17:04
jonodholbach, do you have time for a two min call?17:04
jonojust before you run?17:04
dholbachjono, yes, give me a second17:04
jonodholbach, thanks17:04
dholbachsure17:05
jonodholbach, invite sent17:05
dholbachall right my friends17:12
dholbachsee you around17:12
cprofittsee ya dholbach17:13
jcastro_jono: hey I'm out friday so if you want to powow wrt. berkley folks I have time today17:19
jonojcastro_, lets catch up later18:33
jcastro_fo sho18:40
mhall119jono: do you have your new ssh keys in Launchpad?18:44
jonomhall119, no, will do that now18:45
jonomhall119, sorry, won't be long now18:51
jonowas wrappng up someting18:52
jonogenerating the key now18:52
jonomhall119, done18:54
jonobrb18:54
mhall119 /join #mhall119-chat20:05
mhall119bah20:05
cjohnston:-P20:46
jonomhall119, about set?21:00
jonomhall119, I will set it up in a sec21:00
mhall119jono: give me a couple minutes, wrapping up anothe rmeeting21:00
jonojust wrapping up something21:00
jononp21:00
mhall119jono: ok,ready when you are21:02
jonomhall119, ok, will be a min21:03
mhall119jono: FYI, I wasn't able to create a hangout a little while ago, Google was timing out21:04
jonomhall119, ok, creating now, lets see21:05
jonomhall119, invite sent21:06
bkerensajono: So I checked on a Jono Bacon donut... they said it would be between $2 and $3 per donut and you would need to submit a design a week out and buy a dozen22:17
jonobkerensa, lol22:19
jonomadness :-)22:19
mhall119jono: should send one to RMS as a peace offering22:20
pleia2hehe22:20
bkerensamhall119: he would want to audit the vendor to ensure they used a totally free software process in the design22:21
bkerensa:)22:21
jonolol22:21
bkerensaor say it was baked with spyware22:21
bkerensa;)22:21
MrChrisDruifEvening y'all..22:22
mhall119bkerensa: just send him an Amazon gift card, it'll be fine22:24
bkerensamhall119: :) you see these http://i.imgur.com/Elj01.jpg22:26
rrnwexechere's a great RMS video that I think makes his position pretty clear: http://youtu.be/radmjL5OIaA22:27
IdleOneThose donuts look awesomely delicious22:27
pleia2bkerensa: wow, those came out great!22:28
bkerensarrnwexec: See I think this video makes his position clear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BH7poMtPVU22:29
bkerensa:)22:29
bkerensapleia2: yeah they did... they scared me saying they didnt come out as good as they wanted22:30
bkerensa:D22:30
bkerensapleia2: they would make xubuntu ones :)22:30
bkerensaIdleOne: I hope they are :) we will see tonight huh22:30
mhall119bkerensa: nice22:32
mhall119wish I had a cool donut shop around here22:32
rrnwexecbkerensa: fun song. he performed that for us in Vancouver and is was a hot.22:32
rrnwexec*hoot22:32
rrnwexec:P22:32
bkerensamhall119: open one :) I hear the owners make a fortune22:32
mhall119I'm better at this job ;)22:32
bkerensarrnwexec: we didnt have the pleasure of hearing the song when he came to Portland but he did eat his foot some which was educational :)22:33

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