=== Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === doko_ is now known as doko === soren_ is now known as soren === RaringOne is now known as IdleOne === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ === Pricey_ is now known as Pricey === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik === ogasawara_ is now known as ogasawara === Laney is now known as robert_ancell === robert_ancell is now known as Laney === valorie_ is now known as valorie === valorie is now known as 77CABWYBP [16:01] o/ [16:01] * arosales doesn't see SpamapS atm [16:01] \o [16:02] o/ [16:02] #startmeeting [16:02] Meeting started Tue Dec 11 16:02:37 2012 UTC. The chair is Daviey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:02] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:02] #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:03] move to http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server for release bug tracking [16:03] jamespage: ^ this has been done? [16:03] yep [16:03] cool [16:03] move to http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server for release bug tracking [16:03] -- Who was this assigned to? [16:03] I updated the IRC command list just before the meeting [16:04] arosales: eh? [16:04] Daviey: I think the first two were team info on tracking [16:05] Oh.. well deprecate http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html hasn't been done [16:05] the 3rd action item was for me to update the irc command for server meetings [16:05] So, i'll do that.. as i already have access. [16:05] * arosales apologizes for not putting an owner with that. [16:05] arosales: thanks... oh, don't worry [16:06] #action Daviey to deprecate http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:06] ACTION: Daviey to deprecate http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:06] roaksoax to review MAAS bugs, and sync with upstream [16:06] :-) [16:06] heh [16:06] so, roaksoax is out.. But it seems to be making progress [16:06] hmm, no Robie [16:07] rbasak, on the agenda was "roaksoax to review MAAS bugs, and sync with upstream" .. as he is out today.. are you close enough to know how this is going? [16:08] I'm not familiar with the current packaging status, sorry [16:09] rbasak: ok, thanks.. it was a long shot. [16:09] #action Daviey to check with upstream how MAAS bugs are looking [16:09] ACTION: Daviey to check with upstream how MAAS bugs are looking [16:09] arosales to investigate why status tracker is not picking up servercloud area [16:10] arosales: ^? [16:10] I think we may have missed the cut-off date [16:11] * arosales to follow up with release team on getting the topic blueprints ack'ed back into the status tracker [16:11] Hmm, that sounds crappy :) [16:11] I think release team freezes at feature freeze === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [16:11] #action arosales to follow up with release team on getting the topic blueprints ack'ed back into the status tracker [16:11] ACTION: arosales to follow up with release team on getting the topic blueprints ack'ed back into the status tracker [16:12] arosales: thanks [16:12] I *think* that is the issue, but yes I will follow up :-) [16:12] jamespage, arosales confirm if https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+upcomingwork should be used in ubuntu-server team IRC meeting for BP status [16:12] sorry /me didn't have an opportunity to sync up with jamespage [16:12] we did not [16:12] anyone have any thoughts on that? [16:12] ok [16:13] but as we don't have stuff setup in status.ubuntu.com I think we should use that for the time being [16:13] the trouble is ~ubuntu-server has too much noise [16:13] it includes people that happen to be in the largely open team [16:13] including juju-core, security and probably foundations issues [16:14] al valid points. [16:14] all, that is [16:14] so perhaps that is not a good approach === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [16:15] I think its a useful view from individuals i.e. launchpad.net/~james-page/+upcomingwork [16:15] yeah [16:15] doesn't scale well for non canonical people tho. :). Not sure how many non-canonical people signed up to wi's this cycle tho [16:16] i know there are some. [16:16] #topic Raring development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Raring development [16:16] Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html [16:17] Is this not deprecated now? [16:17] jamespage: ^? [16:17] yes [16:17] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server [16:17] * Daviey notes to update the wiki [16:18] bug 1081212 [16:18] Launchpad bug 1081212 in maas (Ubuntu Quantal) "The address of the API in pserv.conf (tftp/generator) is http://localhost/MAAS/api/1.0/pxeconfig/" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1081212 [16:18] I need to catchup with the report author on that report - as I don't think its the full packageset. [16:18] So.. I'm actually going to skip all the maas bugs.. as the best person to answer them is not here this week. [16:18] jamespage: right [16:18] Daviey, TBH they are all in hand upstream; so that is a good approach [16:19] its just dependent on the 1.2 stablisation release being delivered [16:19] ~Jan [16:19] bug 1076747 [16:19] Launchpad bug 1076747 in quantum (Ubuntu Raring) "The Quantum OVS plugin should not depend on openvswitch-switch " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076747 [16:19] committed in the lab; not broken in the archive [16:19] trunk broke for a bit in raring [16:19] * jamespage rewinds [16:20] wrong bug - that one is commited in the lab for the next raring upload [16:20] ok, cool [16:20] .. [16:20] bug 1085038 [16:20] Launchpad bug 1085038 in quantum (Ubuntu Raring) "Python Modules : Wrong versions" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085038 [16:20] see my incorrect comments [16:20] committed in the lab; not broken in the archive [16:20] trunk broke for a bit in raring [16:20] bug 671065 [16:20] Launchpad bug 671065 in dovecot (Ubuntu) "deliver broken because dovecot.conf uses !include_try" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/671065 [16:20] * jamespage hides [16:21] * Daviey looks at the report date [16:21] sorry - I started looking at that one and got distracted [16:21] heh [16:21] looks like it's in progress, with a patch needing forward porting? [16:22] yeah [16:22] hence why I hid [16:22] heh [16:23] * jamespage berates himself for being slack about that one [16:23] heh [16:23] bug 1066845 - zul? [16:23] Launchpad bug 1066845 in nova (Ubuntu Raring) "nova-novncproxy is not running; Suggest: novnc should be Depends" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066845 === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [16:23] ill update it [16:24] bug 1086833 - yolanda. Seems to be making good progress [16:24] Launchpad bug 1086833 in nova (Ubuntu Raring) "All nova upstart configuration use 'su' instead of 'start-stop-daemon'" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086833 [16:24] * Daviey repeats, as the devil is here [16:24] bug 1086833 - yolanda. Seems to be making good progress [16:24] ubottu> Launchpad bug 1086833 in nova (Ubuntu Raring) "All nova upstart configuration use 'su' instead of 'start-stop-daemon'" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086833 [16:24] Daviey: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:25] Any other bugs that are release trackable? [16:25] ok [16:25] Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-raring-servercloud-overview.html [16:25] I'm sure there are plenty - please can everyone remember to raise tasks for raring - that way they get on the report [16:25] 404 :) [16:26] thanks jamespage [16:26] so.. blueprints. [16:26] smoser, jamespage and myself have been going through them [16:26] Generally, they are looking good.. but there are a bunch that needed some work [16:26] Comments were made [16:26] (at least for the ones i am approver for) [16:27] I didn't really dig into the ones arosales is approver for.. can you comment on yours? [16:27] we still need to properly spec out a few [16:27] but no comments here [16:27] ok. [16:28] so.. servercloud-r-openstack-docs - koolhead17.. needs work.. empty spec so far [16:28] servercloud-r-openstack-sru - zul - is it rich enough in detail? [16:28] yes [16:29] are you certain? :) [16:29] (hint) [16:29] servercloud-r-userns - hallyn - requested to be dropped, merged with another. [16:30] yup [16:30] servercloud-r-virt-powerpc - BenC - Currently empty, if still null by EOW, will drop. [16:31] servercloud-r-webscale - SpamapS - Think this needs a new owner? Not yet confirmed with Clint, but assuming it does, any volunteer? [16:31] (apply via a self addressed envelope to my PO BOX address) [16:31] Daviey, throw that one at me; I'll hack it back and do the essentials [16:31] j\o/) [16:31] nice, mr page. [16:31] done. [16:32] * jamespage gets the hachett out [16:33] chop chop chop[ [16:33] heh.. [16:33] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:33] No events are jumping out at me? [16:33] robbiew @ Dell World, Austin tomorrow.. doing an awesome talk first thing.. [16:34] Lisa this week [16:34] I think negronjl is giving a BOF there [16:35] yeah..."awesome" indeed [16:35] not even on the schedule :/ [16:35] lol === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [16:35] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:36] hggdh or anyone from QA here to represent ? [16:36] * Daviey crosses his fingers. [16:36] Daviey, actually I have something [16:36] dholbach has organized an autopkgtest hackfest this thursday [16:37] Oh yes! [16:37] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RequiredTests [16:37] for the list of tests [16:37] and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/Hackfest [16:37] for the details [16:38] feel free to update and add to the pages [16:38] and obviously be there in #ubuntu-quality on Thursday [16:38] would be nice to see everyone knock of at least one test; these are a good opportunity to put other things down for a few hours and focus on something specific [16:38] thanks dholbach for organising this! [16:38] thanks dholbach [16:38] jamespage: Annnnnnd.. where can i find a list of tests that need writing ? [16:38] I might grab you for an hangout-on-air where you can show off some of your work and get people involved [16:38] anytime [16:39] <--- stooge [16:39] Daviey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RequiredTests [16:39] we also have a blueprint [16:39] there'll be 2 more hackfests this cycle [16:39] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-seeded-qa-workflow [16:39] jamespage: thanks [16:39] Nobody from QA, and nothing else to add? [16:39] ... [16:40] (and here's how to write tests: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/auto-pkg-test.html) [16:40] \o/ [16:40] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:40] Not much to report this week. Done some pulling of Xen sercurity [16:40] updates. Also updated the http://people.canonical.com/~smb/lucid-ec2-ng [16:40] kernels after master had been updated. Did some testing on a c1.medium [16:40] instance where I saw no issues. Have not heard any reports other than [16:40] cc1 (=HVM) instance does not work which was not working with the ec2 [16:40] branch either. ;) [16:40] .. [16:40] wow, smb, as efficient as ever [16:40] As long as I can prepare... :) [16:41] There is an ongoing conversation of the kernel version for precise, next point release. More details to follow next week. [16:41] Any kernel questions for smb? [16:41] Daviey, In that case without me [16:41] smb: You are AWOL next week? :o [16:41] Daviey, This is my last working week this year. :-P [16:42] smb: glad to hear it :) [16:42] smb: Are you looking to handle the xen merge? [16:42] Daviey, which xen merge? [16:42] THE xen merge. [16:43] Daviey, You mean the xen-4.2 + qemu-dm which is uploaded to proposed? [16:43] 4.1.3-3ubuntu1 -> 4.1.3-6 [16:43] or experimental ? http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/x/xen/current/changelog [16:43] Daviey, Since when do we do this for SRU? [16:44] I have NFI why it's in experimental.. could just be because Debian are in freeze.. or could be more [16:44] smb: raring. :) [16:44] Daviey, Well raring will be 4.2! [16:44] And that is in proposed [16:44] Ah! [16:44] Again, more efficient than i could hope for. [16:44] :) [16:44] Heh [16:45] Do we know what is keeping it in raring-proposed? [16:45] I think it was xcp-xapi which zul was trying to thake care of [16:46] yeah im almost done [16:46] #ACTION zul and smb to work together to get xen in raring-release [16:46] ACTION: zul and smb to work together to get xen in raring-release [16:46] thanks [16:46] Anything else for smb? [16:46] thank you smb [16:46] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) [16:46] I'm working on verifying a quantal SRU, as ARM server installers are currently completely broken on quantal at the moment. This is bug 1084106. Nothing else to report. Any questions for me? [16:46] Launchpad bug 1084106 in The Eilt project "highbank installer broken" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084106 === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [16:47] rbasak: maas & arm looking good? [16:48] for the hope-for'd SRU's? [16:48] I believe it was working well as of three days ago. I've not checked for my last change being SRU'd, but we don't need that until our next hardware enablement which I don't think will happen for a couple of weeks at least. [16:49] Super, thanks rbasak. :) [16:49] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion [16:49] Anything else pending? [16:49] i still like turles [16:50] * rbasak likes turles too [16:50] (BTW, what are turles? :-P [16:50] turtles? huh? [16:50] * TheLordOfTime yawns [16:51] rbasak, cloud-init SRU landed in precise-proposed [16:51] \o/ [16:51] woot [16:51] I did wonder about that [16:51] so the "arm mirror" stuff should "just owrk" now. [16:51] that is thanks to mr slangasek [16:51] smoser: will you be dropping the ephemeral image hack when that's in? [16:51] that would make sense [16:51] (in which case I'll want to test for a regression when you do) [16:52] anyone who wants to help test https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/cloud-init would be wonderful. [16:52] pls to test new qemu packages in ppa:serge-hallyn/crossc in raring :) [16:52] (anything fix-committed needs testing) [16:52] smoser: do you have a -proposed daily cloud image or anything like that? [16:53] * Daviey moves on? [16:54] Daviey, got 7 minutes [16:54] we can have a 6 minute party then [16:54] #topic Announce next meeting date and time === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announce next meeting date and time [16:55] Shall we have one in 2 weeks? [16:55] or 3 weeks? [16:55] two week's right in the middle of US holidays you know, not that there's many US people on the server team [16:55] So xmas day, or new years day? [16:55] 25th is 2 weeks, 1st is 3 weeks [16:55] isnt xmas day a family day? probably new years'll be more... logi... [16:55] wait... [16:56] ... i'd assume the 25th is just a bad date for the meeting, but the 1st isnt that much better... [16:56] Okay, lets go for the 8th.. Wow. [16:56] same time [16:56] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:56] Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 16:56:36 2012 UTC. [16:56] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-12-11-16.02.moin.txt [16:56] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-12-11-16.02.html [16:56] thanks [16:56] ta Daviey === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [16:59] Thanks Daviey for chairing === statik_ is now known as statik [17:00] arosales: yup ... I'll be there for the Juju BOF [17:00] #startmeeting [17:00] ## [17:00] ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. [17:00] ## [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:00] Meeting started Tue Dec 11 17:00:38 2012 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [17:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [17:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/raring [17:00] # Meeting Etiquette [17:00] # [17:00] # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. [17:00] # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized) [17:00] Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] \o [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:01] o/ [17:01] o/ [17:01] \o [17:01] o/ [17:01] o/ [17:01] [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Status (ppisati) [17:01] nothing to report this week. [17:01] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) [17:01] Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: [17:01] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt [17:01] .. [17:01] [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) [17:01] [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork [17:01] || apw || hardware-r-kernel-config-review || 9 work items || [17:01] || || hardware-r-kernel-misc || 3 work items || [17:01] || || foundations-r-secure-boot || 1 work item || [17:01] || || desktop-r-clean-old-kernels || 1 work item || [17:01] || ogasawara || hardware-r-kernel-config-review || 2 work items || [17:01] || || hardware-r-arm-power-measurement || 1 work item || [17:01] || ppisati || hardware-r-kernel-config-review || 1 work item || [17:01] || || hardware-r-kernel-version-and-flavors || 2 work items || [17:02] || sconklin || hardware-r-arm-power-measurement || 3 work items || [17:02] || rtg || hardware-r-kernel-config-review || 1 work item || [17:02] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara) [17:02] We have recently rebased the Raring kernel to upstream v3.7 final and [17:02] uploaded. [17:02] Important upcoming dates: [17:02] * Tues Dec 18 - 13.04 Month 2 Milestone (1 week) [17:02] * Thur Dec 27 - 12.04.2 Kernel Source Freeze (~2 weeks) [17:02] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (henrix) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: CVE's (henrix) [17:03] Currently we have 29 CVEs on our radar, with 0 CVE added and 3 CVEs retired this week. [17:03] See the CVE matrix for the current list: [17:03] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html [17:03] Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week: [17:03] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt [17:03] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt [17:03] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix) [17:03] Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (December 11): [17:03] * Hardy - Released; 1 CVEs; (1 commits) [17:03] * Lucid - Released; 1 CVEs; (1 commits) [17:03] * Oneiric - In Verification; 1 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (78 commits) [17:03] * Precise - In Verification; 1 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (87 commits) [17:03] * Quantal - In Preparation; 1 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (309 commits) [17:03] Current opened tracking bugs details: [17:03] * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html [17:03] For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: [17:03] * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html [17:03] Future stable cadence cycles: [17:03] * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock [17:04] .. [17:04] [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:04] The next meeting won't be until after the new year. I'll send out an email reminder. [17:04] Thanks everyone [17:04] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [17:04] Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 17:04:57 2012 UTC. 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