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| dholbach | good morning | 07:32 |
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| geser | good morning | 07:32 |
| dholbach | hi geser | 07:33 |
| dholbach | Laney, would it be possible to move our hangout forward by an hour? Jono decided to bring back our team meetings (which are at the same time :-)) | 08:45 |
| dholbach | Is there anyone else who could imagine giving a session at Ubuntu developer Week? Maybe just a 30m demo? We still have a number of slots open: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable | 09:00 |
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| Laney | dholbach: should be ok | 09:09 |
| Laney | I don't know which way forward is though :P | 09:09 |
| dholbach | Laney, 15 utc instead of 16 utc - would that work? | 09:10 |
| Laney | yeah | 09:10 |
| Laney | right in the middle of my patch piloting ;-) | 09:10 |
| dholbach | start earlier then ;-) | 09:11 |
| * dholbach hugs Laney | 09:11 | |
| * Laney hugs dholbach | 09:13 | |
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| dholbach | Laney, are we still on for in 15m? | 14:45 |
| Laney | yeah, sure | 14:46 |
| dholbach | sweet | 14:47 |
| mitya57_ | dholbach: hey; what happened to http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/? | 14:57 |
| dholbach | mitya57_, bad timing now - will check in a bit | 14:58 |
| dholbach | mitya57_, maybe dpm can help figure it out - I have a hangout-on-air in a sec | 14:58 |
| dpm | dholbach, mitya57_, no idea what happened, but I've manually run the script to generate the output and it's back online | 15:02 |
| mitya57_ | dpm: thanks | 15:10 |
| mitya57_ | one more issue is that http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/es/singlehtml/ has no logo, but that's probably my fault | 15:11 |
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| mfisch | Hey MOTUs, there's a ftbfs package that has a check in the rules file that the system it's being built on is PowerPC, yet the package is "all" so it breaks. Is that legal? | 16:32 |
| mfisch | I'm curious how it ever worked for Debian | 16:33 |
| Laney | In Debian arch:all binaries are uploaded by the maintainer | 16:33 |
| Laney | mfisch: ^- | 16:34 |
| micahg | mfisch: is it legal? yes, can we build something like that at the moment? no, but it depends on what it is whether or not that's right | 16:34 |
| micahg | classic example is powerpc bios emulation that needs to be built on powerpc | 16:35 |
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| mfisch | micahg: thats the one I think | 16:35 |
| mfisch | micahg: slof | 16:35 |
| mfisch | Laney: so the maintainer uploads binary packages? | 16:35 |
| Laney | correct | 16:35 |
| mfisch | interesting | 16:35 |
| mfisch | I was wondering where the debian build logs were last night... | 16:36 |
| Laney | that'll be why | 16:36 |
| micahg | yeah, that just won't work in Ubuntu until we can get arch:all building on !i386 | 16:36 |
| micahg | well...in theory it could be done with multiarch hacking, but we don't have powerpc enabled by default with multiarch | 16:36 |
| mfisch | so the package is really an all package? | 16:38 |
| mfisch | just needs to be built on PPC | 16:38 |
| micahg | I'm guessing Debian will need to solve this problem as well once they try to build everything from source on the buildds | 16:38 |
| micahg | yes | 16:39 |
| mfisch | micahg: thanks for the info | 16:43 |
| Laney | do I remember a similar situation to this being discussed a couple of weeks ago? | 16:45 |
| Laney | infinity: ^---? | 16:45 |
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| infinity | micahg: multiarch is the wrong answer here, affinity is the right answer (some sort of "Build-All-On: powerpc" header in the source). | 16:47 |
| micahg | infinity: yes, that's why I said hackery | 16:47 |
| infinity | micahg: But it's an irksome problem to fix in both Soyuz and DAK, so I haven't put much thought into it. | 16:47 |
| micahg | and in theory :) | 16:47 |
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| infinity | micahg: Well, "we don't have powerpc enabled by default with multiarch" is a weird statement that makes little sense to me. | 16:48 |
| micahg | infinity: well, as I said, if Debian goes through with their plans for everything to be built on the buildds, policy will probably have to be extended to include some type of affinity | 16:48 |
| infinity | micahg: All arches are multiarch capable, that's sort of the point. NONE of the buildd chroots enable multiarch for ANY secondary arch, to avoid cross-arch pollution. | 16:48 |
| micahg | infinity: was just verbalizing a hack that would work, not something that I'd upload | 16:49 |
| micahg | work == build and be installable with some tweaking, not correct solution by any means | 16:49 |
| infinity | Oh, unless you meant an all->powerpc cross-arch dep, like we do with wine. | 16:49 |
| infinity | That would absolutely work. | 16:49 |
| micahg | yes :) | 16:49 |
| infinity | But yes, not enabled by default. Check. | 16:50 |
| infinity | Maybe I should put forward a proposal for Build-On affinity at some point. | 16:50 |
| infinity | I had hoped to JFDI and skip the bikeshedding, but I don't really have time. | 16:51 |
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