[00:10] <fabiomirko> hi
[00:10] <_zero> hey)
[00:10] <dr_willis> hello
[00:10] <fabiomirko> i m looking for sis 661mx driver
[00:11] <fabiomirko> now i use vesa driver
[00:11] <dr_willis> SiS?  good luck with them.  They are the worse video chipset makers when it comes to linux support.
[00:11] <fabiomirko> but videos are slow and not good
[00:12] <fabiomirko> and so? what can i do?
[00:12] <dr_willis> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/sis.4.html
[00:13] <dr_willis> sems the 661 drivers are built in.
[00:13] <xibalba> anyone here use turnkey linux? looking for something like a 'dropbox' style of an app for internal users to quickly upload docs to a web interface then hand out links to other people for download. usually used a temporary document storage for handing off loarge docs/files 10+ megabytes , not sufficent for email.
[00:13] <xibalba> ping me if someone thinks of something, ty
[00:14] <dr_willis> xibalba:  i think google added that sort of feature to their gdrive/gmail  recently.
[00:15] <dr_willis> but that wouldent be internal. ;)
[00:15] <xibalba> hmm, can't use google. has to be something managed internally, dont really wana setup a whole box so was looking @ the turnkey route
[00:15] <xibalba> ty for the suggestion however
[00:15] <dr_willis> theres that Opencloud service also. but ive never used it
[00:15] <xibalba> going to test this out, http://www.turnkeylinux.org/fileserver, see if it's suitable, seems to have more than required
[00:16] <dr_willis> Since turnkey is not ubuntu.. ;) no idea
[00:16] <xibalba> ha, the #turnkey chan was sad looking
[00:17] <xibalba> it's ubuntu based!
[00:17] <xibalba> =P
[00:17] <dr_willis> dosent mean it supported here. ;)
[00:17] <xibalba> dont i know it
[00:17] <xibalba> :)
[00:18] <xibalba> alrighty doc thanks anyways
[00:18] <robotfuel> xibalba: there is the owncloud juju charm
[00:19] <Linuxuser2> How come when you remove an application via software manager it doesn't delete your settings under your Home?
[00:19] <xibalba> i can't make sense of that/
[00:19] <abyss4> how do i create an unpriveleged user in ubuntu?
[00:19] <robotfuel> xibalba: http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise/owncloud
[00:19] <dr_willis> Linuxuser2:  that would be very BAD if it did.
[00:19] <xibalba> robotfuel, great i'll give this a whirl
[00:19] <robotfuel> xibalba: juju is like apt-get for the cloud, if you want to use internal servers you can use MAAS
[00:19] <dr_willis> Linuxuser2:  stuff in the users home belongs to the users.. not  for the system admin to mess with
[00:20] <xibalba> why didn't they just use apt-get? and what's MAAS?
[00:20] <MaynardWaters> any raid experts want to help?
[00:20] <MaynardWaters> http://pastebin.com/J2yy7cT5
[00:21] <robotfuel> xibalba: if you want to try MAAS see http://people.canonical.com/~gavin/docs/lp:maas/
[00:21] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: A short summary (but not as short as "raid question") would be appreciated before I make up my mind if I should follow the link. :)
[00:21] <Googol30> I think I found my DNS servers, or at least 2 of them... what do I do with them if I'm trying to setup a static LAN IP?
[00:22] <xibalba> sweet it's in the apt repo too
[00:22] <abyss4> how do i create an unpriveleged user in ubuntu?
[00:23] <MaynardWaters> BlueEagle: i have a raid 5 array with a fail disk, and for some reason the whole array has gone haywire.
[00:23] <BlueEagle> abyss4: Just add the user using any user management tool. By default they have got no special privileges.
[00:23] <Googol30> What I've been told is to add them to /etc/resolv.conf as "nameserver IP" but the file says that will be overwritten.  Any way to prevent that, or am I going about adding DNS servers wrong?
[00:24] <MaynardWaters> BlueEagle: one of the curious things is that the raid did not detect the failure it just stopped working
[00:25] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: Are any of the drives USB drives and have any storage devices been added or removed from the system (raid or otherwise)?
[00:25] <jrib> !resolv.conf | Googol30
[00:26] <MaynardWaters> BlueEagle: all of these are internal drives, the array has been working fine for a few years
[00:26] <MaynardWaters> what confuses me is the broken drive still appears to be working in its own array which mimics the old array
[00:28] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: What puzzels me some is that the last disk is listed as missing in all but sda1
[00:29] <MaynardWaters> yea thats what has me really confused too!
[00:30] <MaynardWaters> and sda says it sees all of the array!
[00:31] <Googol30> If I add "dns-nameservers" to /etc/network/interfaces, is it a requirement to add "dns-namesearch", among other options, or is it possible to establish a static IP without those options?
[00:31] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: I would believe that that is the crux to the issue here. However I am unfortunately not expert enough to tell you how to resolve this. I would assume that all the other four drives are trying to rebuild data and sda1 will have nothing of it.
[00:31] <MaynardWaters> according to the disk utility sdc has "a few bad sectors"
[00:31] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: Has the raid data been corrupted?
[00:31] <MaynardWaters> the md device is "inactive" so i cant tell
[00:32] <MaynardWaters> I cant seem to activate it
[00:32] <MaynardWaters> god i hope the data isnt corrupt
[00:33] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: If the fifth disk is the spare then my best guess is (after setting everything to read only) to remove the spare that the four disks are reporting as missing. This should leave a mountable raid array, but it may fail integrity tests. However if it is force mountable then you should be able to recover the most data this way.
[00:33] <MaynardWaters> BlueEagle: I am remote to that server currently...
[00:34] <MaynardWaters> before I left I unplugged the drives one by one to figure out which one has the bad sectors
[00:34] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: Being that it is that data on the 2nd disk is most likely corrupted already then the only way to recover this is to replace this drive with one who has good sectors all over and mirror what data you can to this. This should allow the array to rebuild.
[00:35] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: How ever if it is possible to reconfigure the array so all drives see the 5th drive it should be able to rebuild without mirroring sdc1.
[00:35] <MaynardWaters> BlueEagle: can you expand on that last part
[00:36] <MaynardWaters> BlueEagle: Ideally I would like to just try to see if the data exists off of 4 drive
[00:36] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: Well my <em>guess</em> is that the raid has been misconfigured from day 1 in that only sda1 saw the spare. For some reason this allowed the raid to say that all was OK, but when one disk failed it came to light that the other disks in the array did not agree to the presence of the spare disk and as such the array hung.
[00:36] <Googol30> Can anyone tell me the command to prevent /etc/resolv.conf from being written over automatically?  I think if I can solve this, my server is good to go.
[00:37] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: Adding the spare to the array by correcting this misconfiguration would allow all the data to be reconstructed to the spare provided that no more than one drive has failed.
[00:37] <MaynardWaters> BlueEagle: Im sure this is a new thing, because I know when i figure configured it this data was consistent across all drives
[00:37] <MaynardWaters> BlueEagle: in this instance and when i orginally set it up i didnt have any 'spares' in the sense that there was an extra drive
[00:38] <MaynardWaters> in raid 5 the 'spare'  is active and has data on it, if i understand correctly
[00:38] <BlueEagle> Googol30: I don't think you want to do that. You may think you want to do it but you would most likely want to add something to a file under /etc/resolveconf/
[00:40] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: I'm sorry. I made that assumption. I have never seen anyone deploy a raid5 w/o a hot spare.
[00:40] <Guest63603> hello I have a question about making a shortcut directory or something like that here is my problem, I want to install quake3 on a live ubuntu but I want to have the heavy files on another drive, how do I make quake3 load baseq3 from another drive
[00:40] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: Simply replacing the faulty disk with one that has got no bad sectors should then rebuild the array.
[00:41] <MaynardWaters> BlueEagle: part of the big confusion
[00:41] <MaynardWaters> is that right now it looks like the one with bad sectors has the correct --examine data
[00:41] <BlueEagle> MaynardWaters: Seeing that one of the disks in the array sees the bugger and four do not I also think that the md is misconfigured on some manner. Although I cannot fathom how.
[00:42] <maslo> hi guys I'm having issues with java on my virtual private server, I installed it earlier today but when I try to run something I get this error  Error occurred during initialization of VM Could not reserve enough space for object heap Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[00:42] <maslo> when I type java -version I have  java version "1.6.0_26" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03) Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode)
[00:42] <maslo> and I'm trying to run a minecraft server on a vps with 4gb ram
[00:42] <maslo> with only 74mb used
[00:43] <BlueEagle> maslo: and the command you use to start minecraft is?
[00:43] <Googol30> And what would I edit there, BlueEagle?  I'm guessing something in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/, but what?  Append "nameserver IP" somewhere in the head or base files?
[00:43] <maslo>  java -Xmx3G -Xms2G -jar Tekkit.jar nogui
[00:45] <BlueEagle> maslo: I don't think java takes G for gigabyte.
[00:45] <Googol30> DNS nameservers are very troublesome... I've been attempting to work this out for days now, and I think I'm a mere few lines of code away... but what do I add... and where?
[00:46] <BlueEagle> maslo: from the man page:  Append the letter k or K to indicate kilobytes, or m or M to indicate megabytes.
[00:46] <maslo> BlueEagle: you need to be more specific than that :X I didn't write that command the minecraft server came with that in a bash script
[00:46] <maslo> I don't know much about java to be honest
[00:46] <maxbit> hy can some one help me i got some problems on building the gspca driver module on a omap4 platform?
[00:46] <Googol30> To my knowledge, it does, BlueEagle, in reference to maslo.
[00:47] <goddard> when using gnome shell how can i change my theme?
[00:47] <BlueEagle> maslo: 3G is assumed to mean 3 gigabyte. However according to the man page java only takes kilobytes or megabytes so you want to alter 2G to 2048M and 3G to 3072M
[00:47] <maslo> ok I'll try right away hold on
[00:48] <BlueEagle> maslo: May be that the man page is obsolete though.
[00:48] <Googol30> Gs in my java startup scripts work fine, BlueEagle.
[00:48] <maslo> worth a shot anyway
[00:49] <Googol30> I'm thinking it might be the "nogui" on the end, but that's just me.
[00:50] <BlueEagle> Googol30: No, the nogui is required for linux server.
[00:50] <maslo> still the same error with the G converted to what you said, well Googol30, I'm trying to make this work http://www.technicpack.net/tekkit/ (http://mirror.technicpack.net/Technic/servers/tekkit/Tekkit_Server_3.1.3.zip)
[00:50] <mastershake> hey guys, for some reason, youtube and anything streaming, there will be only video (that's skipping) and no sound at all... i've tried to reset and update everything but its not working. can anyone help?
[00:50] <maslo> could it be my java version?
[00:50] <mastershake> im using 12.10
[00:51] <BlueEagle> Googol30: http://askubuntu.com/questions/201603/how-do-i-edit-my-resolv-conf-file for your resolve.conf.d question
[00:52] <maujhsn> Can anyone tell me how to totally remove a package after using this command:  to install the package?  sudo tar xvfj <package>.tar.bz2
[00:52] <mastershake> anybody?
[00:53] <maslo> could it be an issue with x32 /x64 java? I don'T remember which one I installed and don't know how to check
[00:53] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: That command simply unpacks a compressed file. You can completely remove it by removing the directory the files was extracted to.
[00:53] <goddard> when using gnome shell how can i change my theme?
[00:53] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: However if you also ran configure and/or make you may need to make uninstall from the source directory.
[00:53] <maujhsn> How?
[00:53] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: how what?
[00:54] <maxbit> matstershake are you using a gforce or ati graka?
[00:54] <maujhsn> BlueEagle How to remove the package
[00:54] <mastershake> maxbit: im not sure
[00:54] <SierraAR> How do I find what the 'filepath' of a file on an external drive is?
[00:55] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: Did you run ./configure and/or make/make install from the extracted files?
[00:55] <maujhsn> BlueEagle No I did not!
[00:55] <maxbit> where you asked to install some special drivers after your installation (small symbol with a pcb card on it)
[00:55] <mastershake> it doesnt work in firefox either
[00:55] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: Then you simply remove the directory to which the files was extracted. For filename.tar.gz that is typically filename
[00:56] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: Ofcourse running any other files like setup.sh or install.sh may also have installed something with make install.
[00:56] <mastershake> maxbit: i really dont remember
[00:56] <mastershake> what should i do in either case anyway?
[00:56] <maujhsn> BlueEagle the tar package is in my download folder
[00:57] <maxbit> i only had that problem with my old ati hd4870 there the drivers in the linux repos were wrong i had to install the ones from the ati home page :S
[00:57] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: ...and?
[00:57] <maujhsn> BlueEagle Just want to get it off the computer
[00:57] <mastershake> maxbit: but it was working fine yesterday
[00:58] <dr_willis> maujhsn:  some apps support a 'sudo make uninstall' from their source directory
[00:58] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: So you go to the download folder (where you ran tar xvf filename.tar.gz to begin with) and remove the directory that the command created and, if you wish, you can also remove the .tar.gz file itself.
[00:58] <neo69> hi
[00:58] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: He didn't make install nor ./configure.
[00:58] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: ...or at least he said he didn't.
[00:58] <dr_willis> BlueEagle:  i thought he said he dident rember. ;)
[00:59] <neo69> when I try to update I get this error "E: Error http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources
[00:59] <neo69> 404 Not Found"
[00:59] <dr_willis> or did i missread ;)
[00:59] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: 01:53 < maujhsn> BlueEagle No I did not!
[00:59] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: Sounds quite definitive to me.
[00:59] <dr_willis> BlueEagle:  i saw that befor you asked him. ;)
[01:00] <maxbit> mastershake hm then i have no ideas im not the pro ^^ sry i can't help you
[01:00] <dr_willis> so hes making  trivial task overly complex.
[01:00] <maxbit> :(
[01:01] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: Which package are we talking about btw?
[01:01] <Patero-ng> why does the fan blows at 100% on my video card while running ubuntu 11 it doesn't happen on windows 7
[01:01] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  what video card and what driver are you using?
[01:02] <Patero-ng> hd5770 and I'm using the stock driver for ubuntu 11
[01:02] <ivanw> Hello everyone.
[01:02] <BlueEagle> Patero-ng: Because it helps keep the cabinet clean? </jk>. Which graphics card and is it 11.04 or 11.10 and why have you not upgraded yet?
[01:02] <maslo> using java -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m -jar Tekkit.jar nogui made it work but then I get exception errors
[01:02] <maslo> those are the exceptions I get http://pastebin.com/K5vvvpn5
[01:02] <Googol30> I never thought that getting a Minecraft server would ever take so long...
[01:02] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  you may want to try the fglrx driver - it may sypport fan controll speeds
[01:03] <maujhsn> BlueEagle Here is how I tried to remove the package out of the folder but I am not using the right commands: http://pastebin.com/LNxfD5Xx
[01:03] <BlueEagle> maslo: How is the load on the server? Could it be a heat issue?
[01:03] <minas> hi, is there a way to make the desktop icons have the same width and height? for example, PDF documents icons are much taller than folder icons
[01:03] <Patero-ng> but I don't want to lower the fan speed if it's using 100% of the gpu capacity that may ruin the card!
[01:03] <ivanw> Can anyone help me with temperature issues?
[01:03] <maslo> there's nothing else running on the server at the moment except apache 2...taking 70mb
[01:03] <maslo> out of 4gb
[01:03] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  i doubt if the system sitting there at the desktop is using 100% of your gpu.
[01:03] <Googol30> Do I really NEED to add the "dns-nameservers" to /etc/network/interfaces?  From what I read, I'm going about doing this whole thing wrong, but noone is suggesting any alternatives.
[01:04] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: Where did the dash before rm come from?
[01:04] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  the fglrx drivers should intheory ramp up the fan speeds as needed
[01:04] <Patero-ng> and what driver ubuntu is using
[01:04] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: And you do not need to be super user to remove that file.
[01:04] <Googol30> Does anyone here have a static LAN IP and is willing to divulge how they have done it?  This, to me is way more complicated than it should be.
[01:05] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: The clue here is that the dash (-) indicates parameters paassed to sudo while rm is really a command (ReMove)
[01:05] <dr_willis> Googol30:  doing what exactly?
[01:05] <BlueEagle> Googol30: /etc/network/interfaces
[01:05] <Patero-ng> what driver is ubuntu using for radeon cards if its not fglrx
[01:06] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  the fglrx drivers are NOT installed by default. so the radeon or ati drivers are used on a clean install
[01:06] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Just specify it there. Mine is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1424510/ but ignore the commented out lines.
[01:07] <Patero-ng> does fglrx makes the card run faster graphics
[01:07] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  i would think so.
[01:07] <dr_willis> since the open sourced drivers are normally not as optmized
[01:08] <BlueEagle> Patero-ng: It does make ATi cards run 3D accellerated graphics faster than the MESA drivers do.
[01:08] <Patero-ng> so the radeon or ati drivers that come with ubuntu are opensource?
[01:08] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  yes.
[01:09] <Patero-ng> that explains the laggy graphics so where should I get the flgrx drivers from ati.com?
[01:09] <dr_willis> they are in the repos.
[01:10] <dr_willis> use the addational-drivers tool to install them.
[01:10] <dr_willis> !fglrx
[01:10] <BlueEagle> maslo: Those messages do indicate a botched tekkit installation.
[01:10] <dr_willis> in 12.04 run 'jockey-gtk' or in 12.10  its in a tab under the 'software sources' tool
[01:10] <maslo> :|
[01:10] <BlueEagle> maslo: This is out of scope for this channel. Try the Tekkit support forums. This is not an Ubuntu error.
[01:12] <maujhsn> BlueEagle Thanks!
[01:12] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: You're welcome.
[01:13] <abyss4> my user does not have access to the source command, how do i fix it
[01:13] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: Again please let me stress the dangers of running `sudo rm`. Running rm with super user privileges will destroy your system if you use it wrong.
[01:15] <schnoodles--e> Hey I was wondering if anyone knows what the default terminal package is called? I need to reinstall it.
[01:16] <Googol30> Do you have more than one ethernet port on your computer, BlueEagle?  When I run what you have Ubuntu complains about not being able to "find device eth3".
[01:16] <BlueEagle> !info gnome-terminal
[01:16] <dr_willis> abyss4:  what shell is the user using? i thought source was a bash builtin.
[01:16] <BlueEagle> schnoodles--e: That should be the one.
[01:16] <BlueEagle> schnoodles--e: What makes you think you need to reinstall it btw?
[01:17] <BlueEagle> (or did you accidentally remove it?) :P
[01:17] <schnoodles--e> BlueEagle, well I am running another default terminal at the moment so its not actually installed.
[01:17] <maujhsn> BlueEagle  I want to get rid of the folder along with the files. http://pastebin.com/qMSTTJpu
[01:18] <dr_willis> maujhsn:  rm -rf directoryname
[01:18] <BlueEagle> schnoodles--e: Then that explains it. Do note that you can change the default terminal using environment variables instead of uninstalling software. sudo update-alternatives –config x-terminal-emulator
[01:18] <dr_willis> bash FUNdamentals. ;)
[01:18] <dr_willis> maujhsn:  rmdir is only for empty directories
[01:19] <maujhsn> dr_willis How are you doing...Hey Thanks!
[01:19] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: rm -rf ffmpeg-linux64-20121206
[01:19] <dr_willis> maujhsn:  may be worth the time to read a few bash beginner guides. ;)
[01:19] <schnoodles--e> Oh sweet ive never known about that one.
[01:19] <Googol30> Do I need to go into my router to change the port forwarding rules each time I want to run my server?
[01:19] <BlueEagle> maujhsn: the -rf parameter forces removal even of non-empty directory. Be VERY CAREFUL with that command.
[01:20] <schnoodles--e> Thank you BlueEagle  :)
[01:21] <wh1p> hello
[01:21] <BlueEagle> schnoodles--e: It was only a google search away. ;)
[01:23] <Googol30> Do I need to set up a static IP and request to have an address outside of the router's DHCP range, or must it be inside it?
[01:25] <Googol30> At this point... although I know I will eventually screw something up... I think I will just go through both the router's and my computer's settings, changing what I think might have a possibility of being a problem.
[01:25] <BlueEagle> Googol30: In general you want the static IP addresses outside of the DHCP scope. The DHCP server does not check if an IP set statically before passing it out.
[01:25] <maujhsn> BlueEagle, dr_willis  Thanks guys it worked!
[01:26] <BlueEagle> Googol30: You do, however, want it within the same subnet. So if your DHCP range is 192.168.0.50 to 192.168.0.100 and the subnet is 192.168.0.0/24 you would assign static IPs either below 50 or above 100 in the final octet.
[01:27] <Patero-ng> what's an upstream driver?
[01:27] <Googol30> Currently I have changed my router's DHCP range to be a lower bound of 192.168.1.2, to an upper range of 192.168.1.252, and have set my computer at 192.168.1.253.
[01:28] <Googol30> It doesn't work though, as I do not have internet on that computer.
[01:28] <BlueEagle> Patero-ng: Typically it is a driver that the hardware vendor has released that the distro vendor has not tested.
[01:28] <phunyguy_t430s> Well I'm not too bright.
[01:28] <dr_willis> Hmm. My router supports static/rembering ip's based on MAC so i can always get teh same ip to my pcs
[01:28] <phunyguy_t430s> see? typed that in the wrong channel
[01:28] <BlueEagle> Googol30: And the subnet mask on the network is?
[01:29] <Googol30> I'm guessing you mean 255.255.255.0?
[01:30] <BlueEagle> Googol30: That is the netmask, yes. When you say that you're not "getting internet" do you mean that you're not able to show web pages?
[01:31] <Googol30> I CAN ping 192.168.1.1, and my other computers CAN ping 192.168.1.253, and my other computers CAN ping google.com.  My Ubuntu Server, however, CANNOT ping google.com
[01:32] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Have you correctly configured the gateway IP?
[01:32] <BlueEagle> Googol30: The gateway should be the IP of the router/modem.
[01:32] <Googol30> The gateway IP is the router's IP, correct?  I have that set to 192.168.1.1.
[01:33] <Googol30> Do you want me to pastebin my /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:33] <BlueEagle> When you attempt to ping google.com does it successfully look up the IP for the name?
[01:34] <BlueEagle> The alternative is saying that it's not able to find google.com
[01:34] <Patero-ng> what's an upstream driver? and should I install both fglrx-installer fglrx-installer-updates?
[01:34] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  upstream is newer drivers. Sometimes they dont work.
[01:35] <BlueEagle> Patero-ng: I already answered the first question.
[01:36] <Googol30> I CANNOT ping google.com on my computer with the IP 192.168.1.253, upon running the command "ping -c 3 google.com", it returns "ping: unknown host google.com"
[01:37] <read> can  someone help me to make my computer not freeze after using it for a while and so I can have wireless internet?
[01:37] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Ok. That means that you're not able to connect to the name server. Can you ping 8.8.8.8 from that computer?
[01:37] <ablyss> Googol30, try ping googles IP 173.194.37.35
[01:38] <BlueEagle> ablyss: Yes, that is much easier than 8.8.8.8 ;)
[01:39] <emancipated> hi all, can anyone recomend something for multi cameras? something user friendly compared to xawtv
[01:39] <BlueEagle> Googol30: After you made changes to /etc/network/interfaces did you restart /etc/init.d/networking ?
[01:40] <BlueEagle> emancipated: stills or video?
[01:40] <emancipated> video
[01:40] <BlueEagle> emancipated: Then, no. :(
[01:40] <cameron_> helo
[01:40] <emancipated> or stills if it can auto refresh images
[01:40] <Googol30> I think we are going to end up at the result that I haven't configured my DNS servers anywhere, which I cannot find out how to do.  To answer your question, BlueEagle, no, I cannot ping 8.8.8.8, nor do any packets return from 173.194.37.35
[01:41] <cameron_> im having trouble getting the indicator-cpufreq package working
[01:41] <read> can  someone help me to make my computer not freeze after using it for a while and so I can have wireless internet?
[01:41] <emancipated> BlueEagle:  thanks anyway
[01:41] <Googol30> I have, just now, restarted the whole computer, out of fear that i didn't restart something that i needed to after changing something
[01:41] <ablyss> emancipated, the CLI program "motion" is pretty nice
[01:41] <emancipated> thanks I'll read up on it
[01:42] <ivanw> http://pastebin.com/sPg6mtj1 this are my temperatures with open case and an air circulator pointing at the Motherboard.
[01:42] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Then I would like to see your /etc/network/interfaces and your /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head file if that was the one you modified.
[01:42] <ivanw> Any ideas? I' ve posted on ubuntuforums a couple of threads, but I don' t get any answers. =(
[01:44] <BlueEagle> ivanw: Is this vastly different from other operating systems or is your CPU just generally running hot? When did you last clean dust from the CPU cooler?
[01:46] <elitenovell> when your computer chip gets to hot can it ruin it?
[01:46] <elitenovell> so always leave a fan at least on the chip
[01:46] <elitenovell> i like liquid cooling
[01:47] <ivanw> @BlueEagle: I' ve cleaned it less than a week ago, changed thermal paste and it is regardless the OS I' m running.
[01:47] <read> can  someone help me to make my computer not freeze after using it for a while and so I can have wireless internet?
[01:48] <Googol30> http://pastebin.com/sq0ynGqH
[01:48] <dr_willis> read:  you will need to give us at least some details as to when its freezing. and what wireless chipset you are using.
[01:48] <Googol30> ^^ /etc/network/interfaces
[01:48] <dr_willis> !wireless
[01:48] <ivanw> @elitenovell when I said air circulator I didn' t mean a computer fan, I meant to say a ventilator (the ones we humans use when temperature is too high)
[01:48] <BlueEagle> ivanw: I am not an operator and this is not twitter. Either your heatsink or cpu is curved and may need lapping (voids waranty) or you use cheap thermal paste. Alternatively you have set some BIOS setting that runs the cpu fan in "quiet mode" or some such.
[01:48] <elitenovell> aw ic
[01:49] <emancipated> hmm cool a search bot
[01:49] <emancipated> !multicam
[01:49] <BlueEagle> ivanw: Do you have any issues where the cpu temperature rices above 90 degrees or the computer starts to behave erraticly under stress?
[01:49] <BlueEagle> ivanw: ...or is it just these bench marks that worry you?
[01:49] <elitenovell> what does lemondrop mean i think someone hacked my computer because it says homeboylook-lemondrop on my computer i didnt do that
[01:49] <read> it seems to freeze many half an hour to an hour after using it regardless of what I am doing. As for my wiresless card I don't know what it is but if you can tell me twhere to find it I can let you know.
[01:50] <dr_willis> !wireless | read
[01:50] <BlueEagle> !bot > emancipated
[01:50] <emancipated> thanks BlueEagle
[01:51] <read> dr_willis: is that a CLI command?
[01:52] <dr_willis> read:  what?
[01:52] <Googol30> http://pastebin.com/t3Ui7MVM
[01:52] <dr_willis> read what the bot is actualy saying.. its giving a url to the wifi docs/guide page.
[01:52] <Googol30> ^^ /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[01:52] <read> dr_willis: is !wireless a command prompt command?
[01:53] <dr_willis> read: read what the bot is actualy saying.. its giving a url to the wifi docs/guide page.
[01:53] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Yeah, that is /etc/resolv.conf not /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[01:53] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Oh.. My bad. Ofcourse that's the head.
[01:53] <aaas> i oculd have sworn I killed background jobs in the past with 'sudo kill -9 %1',  am I wrong on this syntax?  now I get 'kill: failed to parse argument: '%1''
[01:53] <read> dr_willis: i'm not sure what you refering to as the bot. I am currently connected through a wired connection
[01:53] <ivanw> BlueEagle: I don' t know what do you mean  that you are not an operator and this is not twitter. However, heatsink is fine and CPU too. Don' t know what lapping is and I have used Vantec thermal paste (one of my work colleagues gave it to me). I believe it is low cost thermal paste. I do not have fan settings on BIOS and when temperature gets to critical values, computer shuts down completely. I am not stressing it that much, only watching a 720p video rises t
[01:53] <ivanw> emperature to 70 ºC.
[01:54] <Googol30> All hand typed... is there any way to pipe file through some program to send them off to pasebin.com or something?
[01:54] <A|off> So this is freenode...
[01:54] <dr_willis> !wireless > read
[01:54] <Corey> ivanw: Might try ##hardware
[01:54] <somsip> !pastebin | Googol30
[01:55] <dr_willis> read:  you said you wanted to get wireless going.. the ubottu  bot gave you the URL to factoids/sites on getting wireless going.
[01:56] <A|off> um...
[01:56] <dr_willis> A|off:  do you have a ubuntu support question?
[01:57] <A|off> I dont know how i got here..
[01:57] <A|off> or what ubuntu is
[01:57] <ivanw> Corey: Thank you. =) I' ll switch to them.
[01:57] <dr_willis> !ubuntu > A|off
[01:57] <BlueEagle> Googol30: http://pastebin.com/7cfq5ihG made some changes
[01:57] <A|off> ok
[01:58] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Also when you have restarted /etc/init.d/networking try to traceroute 8.8.8.8 and see where the path leads.
[01:58] <ivanw> Corey: It says that I need to identify to nickserv to write and it won' t let me write a thing.
[01:58] <Googol30> Attempted "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"... only to be met with the realization that I need internet... And I would much rather get a static IP set up than change my port forwarding every time my computer decides to change it's own IP.
[01:58] <killerspec> hi all
[01:58] <read_> dr_willis: bash: !wireless: event not found
[01:58] <Googol30> I thank you for your patience so far, BlueEagle.
[01:59] <read_> dr_willis: for some reason the channel froze on me
[01:59] <killerspec> Anyone got any idea about teensy ?
[01:59] <dr_willis> read_:  the !stuff is BOT triggers for the channel ROBOT.
[01:59] <dr_willis> !wireless | read_
[01:59] <dr_willis> see?
[01:59] <killerspec> I am trying invain to install the software and I am totally lost
[01:59] <dr_willis> !bot | read_
[02:00] <topo_> Is it cool if I ask a simple LUBUNTU question on this channel
[02:00] <topo_> ?
[02:00] <dr_willis> topo_:  ask away. theres also #lubuntu
[02:00] <read_> ubottu: thanks, i will read that webpage for that issue. I also want help with getting my computer not to freeze
[02:00] <topo_> Yep but theres no one on that channel
[02:00] <snapshots> hey can anyone help me?
[02:01] <snapshots> on my problem in ubuntu 12.04
[02:01] <BlueEagle> killerspec: Well you do know the softwares name so you're not _totally_ lost. However it does not appear to be in the repositories.
[02:02] <killerspec> there is an explanation on there site but keep hiting a brick wall
[02:02] <BlueEagle> killerspec: Do you assume that we magically know the nature of the wall you are hitting?
[02:02] <Googol30> Also, while we're on the topic, what's the best way to restart the network, "sudo shutdown -r now", which I have been doing recently, "sudo ifdown eth0;sudo ifup eth0", which I do rarely, or "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart", which I do occasionally, or some other method entirely?
[02:03] <topo_> dr_willis: Im trying to my new Nexus 7 to my computer running LUBUNTU 12.10, no luck with the cable so i tried the ftp approach, It worked perfect i made a bookmark in PcManFM and everything is great except the remmenber forever option does nothing
[02:03] <BlueEagle> Googol30: restarting networking should suffice.
[02:03] <BlueEagle> Googol30: That is `sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart`
[02:04] <topo_> dr_willis so I have to reenter user name and password for my ftp server each time I want to transfer a file to my device
[02:04] <read> dr_willis and ubottu: thanks for the help. My computer is freezing again. So I will come back on this channel when I can use another computer to try to get your help.
[02:04] <Googol30> It still says that no packets are received when "ping -c 3 8.8.8.8"
[02:04] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Basically shutdown -r includes /etc/init.d/networking restart and /etc/init.d/networking restart includes ifdown eth0; ifup eth0.
[02:05] <BlueEagle> Googol30: traceroute 8.8.8.8
[02:05] <BlueEagle> Googol30: First hop should be 192.168.1.1. Second hop should be outside.
 Any Ideas? PcmanFM "remmenber forever"
[02:06] <BlueEagle> Googol30: I should have asked this a long time ago. Have you installed a firewall?
 I'll try
[02:06] <Googol30> It says that traceroute can be found in either "inetutils-traceroute" or " traceroute"... should I set my /etc/network/interfaces to dhcp again and install "inetutils"?
[02:07] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Bahh.. Of course they are not in by default...
[02:07] <BlueEagle> Googol30: But you are able to ping 192.168.1.1 from the linux box, right?
[02:08] <Googol30> And I think what I have done with the firewall is port forwarded all TCP requests... or something like that... to port 25565 for device 192.168.1.253.
[02:08] <Googol30> And yes, I AM able to ping 192.168.1.1
[02:08] <BlueEagle> Googol30: On the modem you have forwarded all TCP packets to port 25565 on 192.168.1.253?
[02:09] <BlueEagle> Googol30: So when a ping goes out on port 8 and is returned on port 8 it is translated in the router to port 25565?
[02:09] <snapshots> BlueEagle : can i pm you?
[02:09] <BlueEagle> snapshots: Please do not.
[02:10] <snapshots> ok
[02:10] <kvothetech> snapshots: why not list your problem not just 'i need help
[02:10] <ScottJensen> Does anyone have experience with ZFS on 12.10?
[02:10] <Googol30> I thought ping requests were ICMP ECHO requests, and independent of TCP?
[02:11] <snapshots> ok ok
[02:11] <BlueEagle> Googol30: They may be. I havent slept for a while so I may easily be mistaking.
[02:11] <MSHughes> Googol30, certainly not TCP
[02:11] <ScottJensen> ICMP ECHO is IP
[02:11] <Googol30> I will most likely have to go in ~20 minutes, just to let you know.
[02:11] <ScottJensen> err not IP
[02:11] <ScottJensen> it is the lowest level, does not require a port
[02:12] <Googol30> I haven't changed anything about UDP on my router to my memory though.
[02:13] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Being that we have gone over the settings in your linux box I do think it is an idea to look at the router. Did I understand you correctly that you forwarded all TCP requests to a spesific port regardless of source port?
[02:14] <gsmer> Does anyone knows about Warning from (stdin / apparmor_parser )?
[02:15] <BlueEagle> gsmer: It is a warning from apparmor_parser.
[02:15] <dwayne_> Hey so I have a really strange problem
[02:16] <ScottJensen> are there normal problems? :)
[02:16] <dwayne_> In the download center, it keeps telling me it fails to fetch a file because my internet connection is non-existant
[02:16] <Googol30> In my router it says TCP Any -> 25565.
[02:16] <snapshots> #join ubuntu-beginners
[02:16] <BlueEagle> Googol30: That is not a good idea.
[02:17] <Googol30> Looking at all of the other port forwarding rules, nearly all of the other rules are like that as well, except different ports.
[02:17] <kvothetech> dwayne_: are you connected to the internet
[02:18] <dwayne_> kvothetech: well I'm connected to IRC, the files download halfway then it says the internet connection doesn't exist
[02:18] <dr_willis> dwayne_:  try the apt-get cli tools?
[02:18] <Googol30> So is my port forwarding why I'm not getting internet?  Should I disable that rule then attempt to ping google again, or attempt to run "sudo apt-get update"?
[02:19] <BlueEagle> Googol30: You should disable that rule.
[02:19] <BlueEagle> Googol30: then try to see if you are now receiving results from the name server by pinging google.com again.
[02:22] <Googol30> Disabled the rule, maybe it's still enabled in the NAT forwarding thing...?  I kind of forgot what I did with the NAT, but I think it's along the lines of a static... something... maybe IP...
[02:22] <topo_> Im trying to my new Nexus 7 to my computer running LUBUNTU 12.10, no luck with the cable so I tried the ftp approach, It worked perfect i made a bookmark in PcManFM and everything is great except the remmenber forever option does nothing. Any IDEAS?
[02:23] <Googol30> Same result when "ping -c 3 google.com"... results in "ping: unknown host google.com"
[02:23] <rmoore> anyone have any experience with seq24+zynaddsubfx?
[02:24] <Googol30> I need to go in 6 minutes, by the way.
[02:24] <BlueEagle> Googol30: If I have understood the topology correctly all your different devices are connected to the router/modem. However incoming requests should all be handled by your linux server. What you want to set up in the router is a DMZ for the linux server. How ever that is something that should wait until you have internet connectivity so for now, do not set up any special configs.
[02:25] <dr_willis> topo_:  i find it easier to just use the various network methods to get to the newer android devices. the MTP/wired method just seems flakey.
[02:25] <BlueEagle> Googol30: Then I wish you the best of luck. I'm going to bed as it is 3:25 am here.
[02:25] <danktamagachi> Hi! Is anyone here a DNS guru? Could really use a second of an expert's time...
[02:25] <BlueEagle> !ask | danktamagachi
[02:25] <danktamagachi> :) OK
[02:25] <BlueEagle> !anyone | danktamagachi
[02:26] <Googol30> It's not quite that late here... only 21:26... but I have school tomorrow... so I can't stay up forever.
[02:26] <danktamagachi> I'm trying to set up a DNS record for my domain so that the web traffic goes through AWS but email goes through my hosting. I have the A record pointing to my AWS instance but mail is now failing
[02:26] <topo_> dr_willis: Yeah thats what im doing but i cant get pcmanFM to remmenber My password
[02:26] <ScottJensen> do you have an M record?
[02:27] <somsip> danktamagachi: you'll need to change the MX records to point to your mailserver
[02:27] <danktamagachi> my MX record just points at the domain
[02:27] <danktamagachi> should I instead point it at the IP of my hosting?
[02:27] <ScottJensen> yes
[02:27] <Googol30> For reference, where can I find the log of this channel?
[02:27] <danktamagachi> ok I will try that, thank you ScottJensen Sornaensis
[02:27] <danktamagachi> sornsip
[02:29] <Googol30> 1 minute, then I'm off.
[02:29] <BlueEagle> Googol30: I'm out of ideas.
[02:29] <Guest91804> hello, please help me in English. I made something FOR you, or , I made something TO you?? I can't decide
[02:29] <ScottJensen> for
[02:30] <Googol30> I think tomorrow, I will disable all of the things I have added into the router for preemptive port forwarding.
[02:30] <Guest91804> ScottJensen: thank you!
[02:30] <BlueEagle> Googol30: best of luck to you.
[02:30] <ScottJensen> you are welcome
[02:30] <Googol30> That, however, is another day... for now... good night.
[02:31] <ScottJensen> bye Googol30
[02:32] <Googol30> Any idea when you will be on this chat tomorrow, BlueEagle?  You were the most helpful today, although I didn't really get any further than I was in the beginning of the day.
[02:33] <BlueEagle> Googol30: I will not. I'm heading for the canary islands.
[02:33] <Googol30> Well... I'll be back at roughly 2000 UTC tomorrow... in the case that anyone wants to try to attempt to help me tomorrow.
[02:34] <Googol30> Anyway... have fun in the Canary Islands, BlueEagle, and good night to you all... or good day... if some of you live in Japan or something... where it is day...
[02:35] <puff> Hm, I just reverted from nividia-experimental-310 to nvidia-current, now I'm thinking maybe I should go with nvidia-experimental-304... anyone have (useful) advice about this?
[02:36] <emancipate> canary island, thats a nice place to be when the world ends :)
[02:39]  * imwat2058222873 :imwat2058222873 MODE imwat2058222873 :+i
[02:44] <danktamagachi> Looking for a good solution for keeping a cache in redis based on a mysql database in rails... has anybody tried starling or other options?
[02:45] <puff> danktamagachi: This is #ubuntu, you may want to try another channel.
[02:45] <danktamagachi> puff, ok, I'll try #rails... thanks!
[02:45] <puff> danktamagachi: good luck!
[02:45] <aaas> so when you see something like 192.168.1.0/24 or 192.168.1.0/32 what does the /24 or /32 mean?
[02:45]  * imwatchingyou 123
[02:46] <ScottJensen> it is the mask
[02:46] <aaas> whats the mask
[02:46]  * imwatchingyou does anyone know when ubuntu will support asus dgx? would like to switch back but those drivers and visual studio are keeping me on windows
[02:47] <puff> aaas: it's specifying a range.
[02:47] <ScottJensen> http://www.csgnetwork.com/ipinfocalc.html
[02:47] <aaas> well i guess my question is what's the difference between /24 and /32
[02:47] <muttstuffle> I am not sure, I myself am running an asus g74sx and ubuntu 12.04 LTS works fine for me
[02:48] <puff> aaas: Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIDR_notation and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork
[02:49] <ScottJensen> or RFC 1219
[02:49] <aaas> puff hehe there now thanks
[02:49] <Sornaensis> You're welcome, danktamagachi
[02:49] <Sornaensis> That will be $250
[02:49] <imwatchingyou> am on a dgx, which was worth the money, but could never get the drivers going on ubuntu. but im a total ubuntu noob
[02:59] <cnz> question
[02:59] <cnz> if I install 12.04 can I just upgrade the kernel to 3.5 package
[02:59] <cnz> or do I have to upgrade all the way to 12.10
[03:01] <mspencer> Is this a good place to ask question about the ubuntu-devel-announce mailing list?
[03:04] <Sornaensis> mspencer: don't ask to ask a question just ask your question
[03:04] <mspencer> Sornaensis: Okay, sorry.
[03:06] <DaemonicApathy> mspencer: I would guess #ubuntu-devel is a better option.
[03:06] <mspencer> DaemonicApathy: Thanks.
[03:09] <sam_> hey is anybody familiar with the second dropbox account installation process?
[03:09] <dr_willis> Second?
[03:09] <sam_> yep two dropbox account logged in with the same computer
[03:10] <sam_> I have done it before but now im faceing an error
[03:11] <sam_> when you install dropbox normally it begines installation of proprietary daemon automaticly but not for the second dropbox
[03:11] <ErdMutter> sam_, I don't have much experience but I did a fast google search and found a guide. Not sure if it will help any but here is the url: http://maketecheasier.com/run-multiple-dropbox-accounts-in-mac-and-linux/2010/05/24
[03:12] <goddard> what is a dangerous temp for a video card to run at?
[03:12] <sam_> thanks ErdMutter
[03:12] <ScottJensen> 90C
[03:13] <goddard> mine is at 80C
[03:13] <DaemonicApathy> goddard: One that will impact performance or physical structure. e.g. 2000°F (This can vary between models.)
[03:13] <ScottJensen> goddard: depends on the chip, you can visit the chip manufacturer website to find the specifics
[03:14] <ScottJensen> 80C should be ok
[03:14] <ScottJensen> I'd blow some dust out, clean filters, check the fan, etc
[03:15] <ScottJensen> if you have cats or dogs, you should check your computer insides every 3 months
[03:15] <lihongwu> Hi, all, how can i view all packages from a specific repository from the command line?thanks.
[03:16] <ScottJensen> man apt-get?
[03:18] <sam_> I made my multiple dropbox useing this guide before (2month ago) now i cant its asking for proprietary daemon and it fails to install it. https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Ubuntu%20training/Second%20Dropbox.pdf?w=ac409bae
[03:18] <sam_> anybody please?
[03:18] <goddard> ScottJensen: its a laptop :D
[03:18] <jdnwest> Anyone got a good usenet provider they can recommend?
[03:18] <jdnwest> Apparently the US based ones are all going to crap.
[03:20] <sam_> I made my multiple dropbox useing this guide before (2month ago) now i cant its asking for proprietary daemon and it fails to install it. https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Ubuntu%20training/Second%20Dropbox.pdf?w=ac409bae
[03:21] <goddard> do you guys see any screen tearing in Ubuntu?
[03:21] <goddard> when moving windows around or anything?
[03:22] <ScottJensen> goddard: you can still blow out the air vents, check the fans on the underside
[03:22] <ScottJensen> lihongwu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[03:22] <dr_willis> goddard:  rarely on the desktop. I do see some on videoplayback at times
[03:22] <dr_willis> goddard:  the vsync options seem to help a lot.
[03:22] <lihongwu> ScottJensen, thanks, i'll take a look at it and try.
[03:24] <goddard> ScottJensen: yeah true
[03:27] <datruth> how can I encrypt my external disk and still store large files on it?
[03:27] <dr_willis> why wouldent you be able to store large files on it?
[03:27] <dr_willis> !encrypt
[03:29] <Bound-Entity> Freenode you never surprise me over the thousands of bots you have in here...
[03:30] <dr_willis> thousands? Hmm,., Just know of the  floodbots and ubottu
[03:30] <Bound-Entity> Pinging my system as I connect... using the Ubuntu connect alias that are written in MYSQL of Ubuntu
[03:30] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever noticed any here.
[03:30] <Bound-Entity> So what is this GNU saying Ubuntu has spyware ?
[03:31] <ScottJensen> Amazon paid money to Canonical
[03:31] <dr_willis> Bound-Entity:  Hype and more fud and discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:31] <Bound-Entity> Oh its all hype?
[03:31] <Bound-Entity> Richard Stallman making up stories huh ?
[03:31] <dr_willis> its been out for 2 months and suddendly its news.. yes its overhyped.
[03:32] <dr_willis> and it belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:32] <Bound-Entity> I thought Ubuntu is over several years old ?
[03:32] <dr_willis> The amazon feature is new in 12.10
[03:32] <stroodlepup> even if it did, it's fairly solvable
[03:32] <stroodlepup> guys need some help
[03:32] <dr_willis> which has been out for about 2 months. and the feature was out and discussed in beta a month+ befor that.
[03:33] <Bound-Entity> Oh... GNU didn't exactly say what was explicit
[03:33] <Bound-Entity> So its Amazon's fault
[03:34] <Bound-Entity> Thanks fr the info
[03:34] <dr_willis> !adlens
[03:35] <Bound-Entity> Mark Shuttleworth
[03:36] <Guest27809> hola
[03:36] <dr_willis> Howdy
[03:36] <Guest27809> I am back
[03:37] <Guest27809> from ubuntu 12.10
[03:37] <Guest27809> I was reading the page to update my drivers to fglrx howerver I can't find Hardware Drivers manager
[03:37] <Bound-Entity> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[03:38] <Guest27809> where can I find it under ubuntu 12
[03:38] <dr_willis> Guest27809:  in 12.10 its under software-sources on the last tab.
[03:38] <bazhang> Bound-Entity, dont post that here
[03:39] <dr_willis> take it to  #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss it.
[03:39] <Bound-Entity> Hey... I just want some answers
[03:40] <bazhang> Bound-Entity, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:40] <dr_willis> if they are support related sure... if not #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:40] <Bound-Entity> He said amazon, but that Freesoftware page says its a string in the OS... SHould i be Concered about using Ubuntu ?
[03:40] <lime__> I would like set a specific key on my keyboard to function as a if it was click of my mouse?  Does anyone have any good ideas?
[03:40] <ubuntuuser> how would i set up a vhost to goto www.domain.com/dev ? I'm setting servername and server alias to www.domain.com/dev but it's not working
[03:40] <Bound-Entity> Should I even be using Ubuntu ?
[03:40] <dr_willis> lime__:  theres some accessability tool to use the numpad as a mouse. so its doable.
[03:40] <bazhang> Bound-Entity, as we said many times now: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:41] <Bound-Entity> Are you support of Ubuntu?
[03:41] <bazhang> Bound-Entity, I wont ask you again
[03:42] <dr_willis> lime__:  this is a lttle old - but may apply -  http://answers.oreilly.com/topic/1418-how-to-control-a-mouse-using-the-keyboard-in-ubuntu/
[03:43] <Guest27809> I just install fglrx should I reboot or it doens't need that to start using it?
[03:43] <dr_willis> Guest27809:  normally a reboot is needed
[03:43] <Bound-Entity> Baz
[03:43] <ScottJensen> When in doubt, reboot
[03:43] <Guest27809> but I'm live will it get erased
[03:44] <Bound-Entity> Is there explicit code on my Ubuntu desktop ?
[03:44] <Phaba> stty --a shows what letters you have assigned but i think that bash based
[03:44] <Phaba> well it is; i dont think
[03:44] <lime__> I'm looking to sign the left click to a specific key, not just control the key using the keyboard
[03:44] <lihongwu> I have finally find relevant information in the man page for the apt-get package. I find the storage file for the state of each packages specified in sources.list under the directory /var/lib/apt/lists, in which i can find package names and their information in each repository. Thanks again.
[03:44] <nick_h> if /mnt/backup-home is owned by nick:nick and i can run "mount /mnt/backup-home" as the user nick, why would /mnt/backup-home be owned by root:root after it's mounted?
[03:44] <dr_willis> lime__:  similer question -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/160158/how-can-i-remap-my-keys-to-act-like-the-macintosh-keyboard-like-hold-alt-l-l
[03:45] <Phaba> i dont know enough about stty to be of much help but thats where i'd look if i were you, along them lines, they are keybindings
[03:45] <Bound-Entity> dr_willis
[03:45] <dr_willis> lime__:  dosent look like theres a simple 'solution' to it.
[03:45] <dcherniv> nick_h, mountpoint permissions dont matter, whoever mounts the drive owns it
[03:45] <Bound-Entity> is my Ubuntu desktop safe to use ?
[03:46] <dr_willis> Bound-Entity:   i have no problems with it.. its up to you to decide.
[03:46] <nick_h> dcherniv: so if i'm able to mount the drive as user "nick", shouldn't the mount point's perms be changed to nick:nick ?
[03:47] <dcherniv> nick_h, yes
[03:47] <nick_h> dcherniv: that isn't happening, though
[03:47] <dr_willis> nick_h:  what filesystem is the drive using and who owns the 'root' of that filesystem.
[03:47] <Bound-Entity> dr_willis
[03:47] <Bound-Entity> do you work at Ubuntu ?
[03:47] <bazhang> !ot | Bound-Entity
[03:49] <dcherniv> ubuntuuser, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
[03:49] <dr_willis> Hmm Lime__ left and i found a 3rd way to do what he wanted. ;()
[03:49] <Bound-Entity> Nope
[03:49] <Bound-Entity> I'm the only one in that room now
[03:50] <Bound-Entity> Hey Ubuntu-related is not a room
[03:50] <nick_h> dr_willis: the partition i'm mounting is ext3. it must be that / on the partition is owned by root
[03:50] <dcherniv> ubuntuuser, <VirtualHost *:80>
[03:50] <dcherniv> DocumentRoot /www/example1
[03:50] <dcherniv> ServerName www.example.com
[03:50] <dcherniv> # Other directives here
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[03:50] <FloodBot1> dcherniv: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <nick_h> dr_willis: http://pastie.org/private/jsnurrx7ihwx1x4stt0vza
[03:50] <dr_willis> Channel Names are Preceded with a # Bound-Entity ...  such as #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:50]  * dcherniv my bad
[03:50] <Bound-Entity> Nope..
[03:51] <Bound-Entity> I'm the only one in ubuntu-related
[03:52] <dr_willis> nick_h:  you can 'chown/chmod' the mountpoint AFTER teh filesystem is mounted teh first time. that will chown/chmod the 'root' of the filesystem to be owned by your user.
[03:52] <dr_willis> nick_h:  then from that time on when you mount the FS. the mountpoint will get the permissions/ownder of the Fs's root.
[03:52] <dr_willis> nick_h:  the permissions of the mountpoint BEFOR the fs is mounted do not matter.
[03:52] <Bound-Entity> Hey dr_willis
[03:53] <Bound-Entity> Hey dr_willis where is the support room for Ubuntu
[03:53] <Bound-Entity> I need to like talk to someone that knows something.
[03:53] <dr_willis> Bound-Entity:  try #foreveralone
[03:53]  * dr_willis is done feeding the trolls.
[03:53] <nick_h> dr_willis: ah, that makes sense. thanks
[03:54] <dr_willis> nick_h:  now if this was a NTFS/Vfat filesystem.. then things work out differntly.
[03:54] <dr_willis> nick_h:  with those. its the options you use when mounting that define the permissions and owner.
[03:54] <nick_h> yeah, but i made sure that it was ext3
[03:55] <dr_willis> with ext2/3/4 if you move the drive from one pc to another, you can have issues :)
[03:56] <dr_willis> the uid/gid are what defines the owner/permissions - which can be differnt on differnt machines. So ext2/3/4 on a removeable usb, can be  annoying
[03:57] <nick_h> dr_willis: true. this is a backup drive, so i really only use it on 2 machines where i have the same uid and gid
[03:57] <lime> dr_willis: I don't mind using xbindkeys like proposed here, but
[03:58] <lime> I just need xbindkeys to work when being bind to just one key
[03:58] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/45203/how-can-i-assign-a-middle-button-press-to-a-specific-key-in-my-laptop
[03:58] <dr_willis> seems to be a similer task lime  ;)
[03:58] <lime> it works for a key combo but I can't seem to get it to work for a single key, without the key outputing something
[03:59] <dr_willis> im just reading/searching on askubuntu.com  :)
[04:01] <jviotti> Hi guys!
[04:03] <lime> I am running issues with xmodmap -e "keycode 55 = Pointer_Button1"  I know it is the right key because xmodmap -e "keycode 55 = a" works just fine
[04:03] <lime> It seems the Pointer_Button1 text isn't the right combo or something
[04:04] <ScottJensen> case sensitive?
[04:06] <ScottJensen> http://cweiske.de/howto/xmodmap/allinone.html
[04:10] <ScottJensen> http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/xmodmap
[04:11] <SauceJohnson> Ex-Chat
[04:11] <lime> I only see one reference to mouse/pointer it proposes using numbers but xmodmap -e "keycode 55 = 1" definitely doesn't work because then it starts outputting the number
[04:14] <ScottJensen> sorry
[04:18] <somsip> lime: what do you want it to do when you press keycode=55?
[04:21] <fr0ggie> i'm on 12.04 and wondering what the best way to have a couple packages that are locally built kept up to date when their dependancies are updated by apt?
[04:21] <ScottJensen> somsip: he wants mouse button left click
[04:21] <Phaba> can you use compiz on lubuntu??
[04:23] <ScottJensen> fr0ggie: I'd start by looking at the man pages for apt-get about dependencies
[04:23] <somsip> lime: the answer is here (you need to follow advice in the solution to find it though) http://superuser.com/questions/336674/emulating-mouse-click-with-a-keyboard
[04:23] <thinkinbee> ok so i want to work out on some sort of small open source project in ubuntu how do i go around that assuming that i have little knowledge of c ,c++ , python & bash
[04:23] <Phaba> im on lubuntu, my laptop struggle's with unity and gnome is ok'ish but id like to run compiz on lubuntu because it runs lubuntu easily
[04:23] <lime> somsip: I would like to trigger as if I am pressing the mouse cursor down
[04:23] <somsip> lime: laaaaaggggg
[04:24] <dr_willis> Phaba:  part of the reason its running lubutu easially is that its not running compiz.
[04:24] <dr_willis> Phaba:  you would basically set up a custome X session that runs compiz instead of openbox  and runs the rest of the lubuntu support apps. the panel and so forth
[04:24] <Phaba> oh uhh, so compiz is installed by default in unity?? ive seen some cool mac like features on it but never found a manager for the options, just standard effects options
[04:25] <dr_willis> unity is a compiz plugin.
[04:25] <Phaba> damn
[04:25] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:25] <dr_willis> ccsm is the tool for advanced compiz configuration
[04:25] <Ascavasaion> Morning.  My PS/2 mouse refuses to be recognised.  It is getting power as it is glowing, but does not work.  I am currently using a USB one just to get around GUI, but I need the USB port for other things.  Can someone please tell me how to get the PS/2 mouse working.  Thank you.
[04:25] <Phaba> sweet, gona switch to unity then and do some modifying
[04:25] <Phaba> cheers dude
[04:26] <lime> somsip: yeah sorry about that, but i have tried a variant of that and it doesn't work xmodmap -e "keycode 55 = Pointer_Button1"
[04:27] <somsip> lime: have you found the correct name for the button as detailed in the link I gave you?
[04:27] <lime> Yes, any key but the Pointer_Button keys work
[04:27] <lime> xmodmap -e "keycode 55 = a" works fine but not xmodmap -e "keycode 55 = a"
[04:27] <somsip> lime: have you looked at the file as the poster in the webling suggested?
[04:28] <somsip> *weblink
[04:29] <ScottJensen> XK_Pointer_Button1				0xFEE9
[04:30] <lime> I am going to change keycode 55 so it is no longer a modifier key, log out and log back in, but yes I have tried a variant of what you suggested, I just used a keycode instead of a keysym
[04:30] <somsip> ScottJensen: awww, you did it for him.
[04:30] <ScottJensen> XK_Pointer_Button1 = 0xFEE9
[04:30] <ScottJensen> yeah sorry
[04:30] <somsip> ScottJensen: makes no difference to me. Just a chance for him to read and follow the advice on the page...
[04:31] <lime> yea unfortunately it doesn't work
[04:31] <lime> the
[04:31] <lime> I will try logging out and back in
[04:34] <humongusbig> how can I "uninstall" the amazon web app?
[04:34] <somsip> !adlens | humongusbig
[04:35] <humongusbig> somsip:  sorry, should have been clearer - - I'm not talking about unity-lens-shopping
[04:35] <humongusbig> I already did that
[04:36] <somsip> humongusbig: it'll help if you tell what you are talking about
[04:37] <somsip> humongusbig: the 'amazon web app'?
[04:38] <dr_willis> if you mean the icon in the left side panel... right click, unstick to panel...
[04:38] <humongusbig> somsip: taking a screenshot, hang on
[04:38] <humongusbig> dr_willis: yes I can unstick it to the panel, but when I open amazon links it stil comes back
[04:38] <humongusbig> I don't want to hide it, I want to remove it
[04:39] <dr_willis> disable webapps then I guess. theres some config tool or setting for that. I just dont recall where. It dosent come back for me
[04:39] <dr_willis> let me switch over to unity to look
[04:39] <lime> dr_willis: Could you please atleast try the command xmodmap -e "syskey w = Pointer_Button1" so I know if something is wrong with my computer or not
[04:39] <humongusbig> dr_willis: ok thanks
[04:40] <humongusbig> somsip: http://i.imgur.com/ness2.jpg?1
[04:40] <lime> sorry i mean xmodmap -e "keysym W = Pointer_Button1"
[04:40] <somsip> lime: use the correct reference istead of Pointer_Button1 as evidence seems to show that this is not correct
[04:41] <ScottJensen> XK_Pointer_Button1 0xFEE9
[04:41] <dr_willis> lime:  whats that supposed to do>? remap the W key to be a left click?
[04:41] <ScottJensen> lime: you need the XK
[04:41] <ScottJensen> lime: or use the hex code
[04:42] <dr_willis> my VV key is not orking no. ;)
[04:43] <billyo> Trying to install flash Lubuntu 12.10 firefox anyone see what's going on here http://pastebin.com/RZ1gBXGJ alternative suggestions?
[04:44] <dr_willis> brb
[04:45] <lime> unfortunately the hex does not vvork either
[04:45] <ScottJensen> you tried XK_Pointer_Button1 exactly?
[04:46] <lime> X
[04:46] <lime> XK_Pointer_Button
[04:46] <lime> that throvvs an error, the man pages say to drop XK_
[04:47] <ScottJensen> dunno then
[04:49] <somsip> lime: XK_Pointer_Button1 with a 1 at the end. Or are you just doing typos?
[04:49] <lime> just doing typos you can try the command yourself
[04:49] <goddard> when i look at installed software in the software center it shows 2 nautilus and 2 shotwell photo manager
[04:49] <goddard> how do i know what to uninstall?
[04:50] <kvothetech> goddard: ones 64 bit the others 32 if you have both repo's
[04:50] <billyo> Trying to install flash on Lubuntu 12.10 in firefox anyone see what's going on here http://pastebin.com/RZ1gBXGJ alternative suggestions?
[04:52] <ScottJensen> I don't use a mouse
[04:52] <ScottJensen> or a GUI
[04:52] <goddard> billyo: just use chrome then never worry about flash again
[04:53] <lime> seriously?  vvhat command line applications do you use
[04:53] <ScottJensen> I ssh into my boxes with KITTY
[04:53] <ScottJensen> they are all Ubuntu Servers
[04:54] <lime> and you are using vvhat to irc?  Isn't the command line interface for irc painful?
[04:55] <ScottJensen> I'm on my W8 box right now, I have to have it for work. It pays the bills
[04:56] <Yudist_> tes
[04:56] <mIKEjONES> hello fellow ubuntooers!!!!
[04:56] <mIKEjONES> does anyone know how to remove a package that can't be installed correctly?
[04:57] <mIKEjONES> ever since trying to install mysql-server I can no longer apt-get install install anything because apt tells me to run "apt-get install -f"
[04:57] <mIKEjONES> the forums say the package is broken but provide no means to get out of this state
[04:57] <lime> makes sense, i tried command line + lynx + irc for a vvhile, but not having a reliable brovvser is painful
[04:58] <ScottJensen> apt-get check
[04:58] <menethoril> lime, why don't you try Irssi or another cli IRC client?  It is a bit more flexible.
[04:58] <ScottJensen> apt-get remove -f mysql-server
[05:00] <mIKEjONES> no matter what I do I always get these lines, http://pastebin.com/yeGM5ULn
[05:00] <getut> oioioioioio
[05:00] <mIKEjONES> ScottJensen: http://pastebin.com/yeGM5ULn is the output from both apt-get remove and apt-get check
[05:01] <trism> mIKEjONES: what is: apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.5;
[05:01] <jakey> how do i get to ubuntu off topic
[05:02] <trism> jakey: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:02] <jakey> tks
[05:02] <mIKEjONES> trism: http://pastebin.com/MLcCuphA
[05:02] <lime> memthoril:  I'll try it I just don't think I could make the complete transition to command line because, I need a vveb brovvser for so much of vvhat i doK
[05:03] <dr_willis> heh- havent figured out how to undo your W command. ;)
[05:04] <mIKEjONES> how do I cancel an apt-get install?
[05:04] <mIKEjONES> I can't seem to use apt anymore because it keeps on telling me to run apt-get -f install
[05:05] <billyo> goddard: google chrome?
[05:05] <trism> mIKEjONES: have you run: sudo apt-get update; recently? the mirror looks a little behind if so, both security and updates should have 5.5.28-0ubuntu0.12.04.3
[05:05] <lime> fixed the w key just kept ignoring it ;)  You know I just don't need it that often
[05:05] <mIKEjONES> trism: yea I ran update
[05:06] <trism> mIKEjONES: you may need to force the version either for -core and then upgrade from there, or try forcing the version for mysql-server-5.5: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.5=5.5.28-0ubuntu0.12.04.3
[05:07] <mIKEjONES> trism: I no longer want to install this package, there's a lot of bug reports about it
[05:07] <mIKEjONES> but how do I cancel the install so that I can use apt-get again?
[05:07] <billyo> goddard: not chromium..it doesn't work on that either
[05:07] <mIKEjONES> because now even if I try to apt-get install irssi it complains about mysql-server
[05:09] <Flannel> mIKEjONES: Did you run apt-get -f install like to tells you to do?
[05:09] <mIKEjONES> Flannel: yes
[05:09] <Flannel> mIKEjONES: And the output?
[05:09] <billyo> OK, can anyone advise on installing flash in firefox.OS lubuntu 12.10?
[05:10] <dr_willis> amazing how fragil flash is after all these years
[05:11] <mIKEjONES> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/1KVL5yYS
[05:11] <mIKEjONES> how do I just cancel the install?
[05:11] <mIKEjONES> I no longer want this package
[05:12] <mIKEjONES> at all
[05:12] <Flannel> mIKEjONES: The easiest way is to finish installing it, and then remove it.
[05:12] <Flannel> mIKEjONES: and that was with -f?
[05:13] <Flannel> mIKEjONES: (it's customary to include the command in pastebins, as sometimes the error is there)
[05:15] <mIKEjONES> Flannel: "apt-get -f install"
[05:16] <Flannel> mIKEjONES: Alright, how about apt-get -f install mysql-server-5.5.  How'd you get yourself into this mess anyway?
[05:16] <billyo> dr_willis:google probably pays them to make it fragile where convenient?
[05:17] <dr_willis> billyo:  i think its more of they just dont care
[05:19] <mIKEjONES> ok
[05:19] <mIKEjONES> Flannel: I tried installing mysql-server
[05:20] <mIKEjONES> "OOOBOOONTOOOOO" is by far the most counter intuitive most spyware like distribution I've ever used, hopefully shuttleworth kills himself
[05:21] <Flannel> Well, that's classy.  Do you actually want to solve this problem? or just waste time?
[05:21] <goddard> billyo: ya
[05:21] <goddard> billyo: Google Chrome
[05:22] <konam> hi
[05:22] <konam> i don't see the hdmi audio hardware option on the sound devices
[05:22] <mIKEjONES> Flannel: it seems like everything I try doing on this distro takes 2x longer than on any other, using good old dpkg and purging each package seems to have done the trick
[05:22] <konam> and my tv isn't getting the audio from the hdmi port
[05:23] <konam> any advice?
[05:23] <Flannel> mIKEjONES: I'm happy for you.  Now be polite.
[05:23] <billyo> dr_willis: not a subscriber to the war on freedom?
[05:24] <billyo> goddard: thanks, i'd rather not resort to that though?
[05:27] <billyo> goddard: the process of monopolisation is always more convenient for the consumer in the early stages
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[05:28] <FloodBot1> sambagirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:28] <blackshirt> !find pyhton-mysql
[05:29] <blackshirt> !find python-mysql
[05:32] <blackshirt> !find python-mysql
[05:33] <blackshirt> !info python-mysqldb
[05:37] <d8bhatta> Hello,
[05:37] <d8bhatta> I have a partition called lamp. Today when I try to access the drive, its name is changed to lamp_   . I am not sure how underscore (_) is added to the name
[05:37] <d8bhatta> this is creating problem to access my web pages.
[05:37] <d8bhatta> can somebody suggest me how can I get the drive name back to lamp?
[05:38] <voxadam> What's the best way to install a Ubuntu server VM on VMWare? Should I install using the regular ISO
[05:39] <aeon-ltd> voxadam: use the server iso
[05:39] <KI4RO> .
[05:39] <d8bhatta> any suggestion guys, why the drive name is changed ? How can i  get the name back.
[05:39] <billyo> Trying to install flash on Lubuntu 12.10 in firefox anyone see what's going on here http://pastebin.com/RZ1gBXGJ alternative suggestions?
[05:40] <blackshirt> voxadam, too heavy and bloated... Maybe you want to know about linux container
[05:40] <almoxarife> d8bhatta: what changed, the mount point or drive name?
[05:42] <billyo> Different prob. The bar at the bottom of the desktop with the menu and launcher has dissappeared?
[05:42] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  if its auto mounting by the gnome services. and  the '/media/lamp' allreadi exists.. it may add a _ to the name
[05:42] <d8bhatta> almoxarife: not sure that even, I can see that label is same but when I see properties, path is different like /media/lamp_    . But label at the left column is same i.e. lamp
[05:42] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  see this if the system crashes/dosent unmount the drive. next time it adds the _
[05:43] <almoxarife> d8bhatta: what dr_willis... said
[05:43] <dr_willis> unmount the thing. remove all teh lamp directories.
[05:43] <dr_willis> then let it remount, OR make a fstab entry for it.
[05:44] <dr_willis> I think if it keeps doing it.. it will add a # after the _  i had a 'VideoDrive_5' on this box earlier today
[05:44] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: yesterday during installing updates, i got crash error
[05:44] <konam> any help?
[05:44] <dr_willis> If it was auto mounted. then system crashed.. it never removed that Lamp directory.  so that makes sence
[05:44] <konam> i can't see the hdmi sound device under sound devices
[05:45] <konam> right now i don't have sound from the hdmi output
[05:45] <dr_willis> checked with the pavumeter tool konam ?
[05:45] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: yes, today I don't have to restart some services which I had to do before so because lamp was never unmounted as you said
[05:48] <konam> dr_willis how do i use it?
[05:49] <dr_willis> for my desktop i had to run  pavumeter  and played a video then twiddled with the controll till hdmi started working. ;)
[05:50] <dr_willis> or was it pavucontrol ;)
[05:50] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: the drive is not unmounting ..i click unmount, window closes but when I see it in another window its still mounting
[05:50] <dr_willis> that makes more sence
[05:50] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  close all apps accessing the drive. and use the cli to unmoint it perhaps.
[05:51] <d8bhatta> hmm
[05:51] <billyo> got disconnected. menu and launcher bar disappeared from bottom of desktop?
[05:51] <d8bhatta> any command you know  to unmount, it can also search  but..
[05:52] <dr_willis> umount /media/point
[05:52] <dr_willis> !mount
[05:52] <dr_willis> sudo umount /media/mountpointofdrive
[05:52] <dr_willis> Note theres NO 'N' in umount.
[05:56] <blackshirt> good morning
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> guten morgen
[05:58] <blackshirt> :d
[06:01] <Spinner> When I run showkey, i get the following output   0x80 0x83 0xd5  shouldn't i get a single hex number that I can convert to a decimal keycode ?
[06:03] <billyo>  menu and launcher bar disappeared from bottom of desktop after adjusting panel settings but re-changing variables doesn't bring it back??
[06:04] <thunder1212> how can i block torrents from my router
[06:08] <thunder1212> i want to block torrents from my wifi router
[06:08] <dr_willis> i imagine it would depend on the features of the router
[06:08] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Hey
[06:09] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i got a question for phpmyadmin
[06:09] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how can i set the username and password?
[06:09] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: it's in the config - indexes for auth_type, user and password
[06:10] <thunder1212> dr_willis, it has most of the features...
[06:11] <kvothetech> thunder1212: theres no real way to block all torrents....anyone who wants to will ultimately be able to do it unless you block access to the internet completely
[06:11] <dr_willis> kvothetech:  i was thinking that also. ;)
[06:12] <dr_willis> but nevre really tried to block them so dident say  much on it.
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> what if blocked everything but port80?
[06:12] <kvothetech> dr_willis: i've had people try and block me a few times never took more than 10 seconds to get around
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> wouldn't that stop most common users of torrents?
[06:12] <kvothetech> aeon-ltd: whats to stop you torrenting on port 80?
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> nothing
[06:12] <kvothetech> or ssh tunneling to other ports
[06:12] <aeon-ltd> it's changing it that might stop them
[06:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> this one?
[06:14] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> $dbuser='phpmyadmin';
[06:14] <shag> Народ у кого установлена elementary os luna есть пару вопросов!!!
[06:15] <dr_willis> Elemtry OS is not supported here.. they should have their own support channels shag
[06:16] <billyo> menu and launcher bar disappeared from bottom of desktop after adjusting panel settings but re-changing variables doesn't bring it back?? Created new panel but after adding app launch bar, nothing shows up??
[06:16] <thunder1212> kvothetech, i tried downloading a torrent and there was no speed coming
[06:16] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: No. We may be on different versions
[06:16] <dr_willis> billyo:  as a test make a new user. see if it works for them? if so - then you could clean out the problemuser config files. (what desktop are you using?)
[06:17] <billyo> dr_willis: lubuntu 12.10
[06:21] <shag> Подскажите адрес русского канала Ubuntu
[06:22] <dr_willis> !ru
[06:28] <bubuntu> hello guys
[06:28] <bubuntu> anyone knows how to attach a file from the network to an email?
[06:29] <abogdan> I'm developing my first ubuntu app usig Quickly (python + gtk). I want to use some files and folders in my app. Do you know how to pack them together?
[06:30] <dr_willis> look in your users /home/username/.gvfs directory if you want to browse/attatch a file bubuntu
[06:30] <blackshirt> !info vnc4server
[06:30] <dr_willis> bubuntu:  or i guess you could drag/drop/copy it to a local directory. ;) then attatch it
[06:31] <bubuntu> dr_willis : thanks.. theres no way i can attach it to an email directly from my network?
[06:31] <dr_willis> bubuntu:   look in your users /home/username/.gvfs directory if you want to browse/attatch a file bubuntu
[06:31] <Tweikable> hi.
[06:31] <Guest51543> ddd
[06:32] <Tweikable> my rooted lg connect, when i plug it in ubuntu threw USB, my phone shows a connection, for i dont see anything about a new connection on my computer side. Any advice?
[06:32] <dr_willis> remote locations get 'mounted' via the .gvfs stuff
[06:32] <bubuntu> ok
[06:32] <bubuntu> thanks
[06:32] <dr_willis> They really need to make a more accessable 'Network' type location ;)
[06:33] <dr_willis> nautilus and many apps support the smb:// or other type url locations directly but not all apps do.
[06:33] <bubuntu> yup to make it a more user friendly environment lol
[06:33] <dr_willis> or course back inthe old days.. you basically mounted the shared network locations by hand.
[06:34] <Tweikable> where should i go to learn python easly
[06:34] <bubuntu> can i pm you dr willis?
[06:34] <billyo> dr_willis: in the desktop preferences advanced tab, I have 'show menus...' checked for right click access. not sure where i'm going from there though?
[06:35] <dr_willis> billyo: what are you trying to acomplish?   that menu i think is set to show the window mnagers menus  instead of the file managers menus on lubuntu.
[06:35] <dr_willis> ie: show openbox's menus, instead of the pcmanfm menu.
[06:36] <james4k> hi, has anyone had problems with python-software-properties not working as expected? add-apt-repository doesn't seem to exist
[06:36] <james4k> http://privatepaste.com/38f7a87469
[06:36] <billyo> dr_willis: ok, i don't know what i'm doin..just learning stuff
[06:37] <billyo> dr_willis: how would i access file managers menus?
[06:40] <billyo> dr_willis: i could just do a re-install but it would be interesting to figure out?
[06:41] <almoxarife> !find add-apt-repository
[06:42] <billyo> dr_willis: ok i have openbox configuration manager open...
[06:43] <dr_willis> billyo:  thats what that checkbox does.. shows the wm's menu or the filemanagers menu.
[06:43] <dr_willis> the Filemanager is what manages the icons on the desktop for lubuntu i belive
[06:44] <billyo> dr_willis: checkbox?
[06:44] <dr_willis> if you want to reset your desktops settings back to default you would just delete/move-to-a-backupdir the proper config files
[06:44] <fahad> ll
[06:44] <fahad> root
[06:44] <almoxarife> james4k: insure you have 'software-properties-common'  installed
[06:44] <fahad> cd /pentest
[06:46] <billyo> dr_willis: i can delete admin? still not sure how to access?
[06:46] <dr_willis> billyo:  'admin' ? what do you mean by admin>
[06:46] <billyo> dr_willis: you mean delete the account? it's the admin account.
[06:47] <dr_willis> going to be hard to do any admin type tasks if you delete the admin/root accounts
[06:47] <DaemonicApathy> He said delete config files, not users...
[06:48] <billyo> dr_willis: re-install then huh?
[06:48] <dr_willis> billyo:  err.. no.. delete the proper CONFIG FILES in your users HOME directory
[06:48] <dr_willis> reinstalling is windows thinking
[06:50] <james4k> almoxarife: thanks, that worked.  all the documentation i've encountered points to python-software-properties for that command :(
[06:51] <billyo> dr_willis: sorry, ok, beginner ..so i'm in the config folder now...is that the right place?
[06:51] <james4k> is there an apt command equivalent for !find?
[06:51] <dr_willis> I dont use lubuntu much so not sure.
[06:51] <dr_willis> most likely anything with a lx in the name.
[06:52] <dr_willis> lxpanel
[06:52] <dr_willis> and openbox
[06:53] <dr_willis> make some backup directory and move stuff to it. ;) so you can restore it if needed
[06:53] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> SO where can I edit user name and password for PHPmyadmin
[06:53] <billyo> dr_willis: there is an lxpanel folder..do i delete something in it or the whole thing?
[06:53] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: what version?
[06:54] <dr_willis> move it to some backup directory billyo
[06:54] <dr_willis> or just rename it to lxpanel_old
[06:55] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> version of phpmyadmin?
[06:55] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: yes
[06:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how can i find out @ somsip
[06:56] <billyo> dr_willis: ok, done. now just reboot?
[06:56] <dr_willis> billyo:  just log out and back in
[06:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> mysqladmin  Ver 8.42 Distrib 5.1.66, for debian-linux-gnu on x86_64
[06:56] <rix1234> Hi all, anyone please help me with hardware accelerated flash
[06:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> somsip
[06:57] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: the version string for phpmyadmin would be more helpful.
[06:58] <billyo> dr_willis: thanks doc!
[06:59] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> somsip mysqladmin  Ver 8.42 Distrib 5.1.66,
[07:00] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: last chance, then I get bored and go back to working. Do you want help with phpmyadmin or mysqladmin? If you want help with phpmyadmin, post the version details for phpmyadmin. If you want help with mysqladmin, try #mysql channel
[07:00] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> phpmyadmin
[07:00] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> oh sorry
[07:01] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> idk how to get phpmyadmin's ver
[07:01] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it says cmd not found root@Smokey:~# phpmyadmin --version
[07:01] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: log into it, eg: Version information: 3.4.10.1, latest stable version: 3.5.4
[07:02] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> im not sure how to i just installed it
[07:02] <billyo> dr_willis:  i tried installing flash from terminal..it didn't work..think you could guide me through a different method? it doesn't come up in the software centre
[07:03] <dr_willis> all i do is use the repos to install that flash-installer package and it works for me normally.
[07:03] <dr_willis> !flash
[07:03] <somsip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: I was happy to help if you had a quick query, but this question really should go to a phpmyadmin support channel.
[07:03] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[07:04] <billyo> dr_willis: do you use gnash?
[07:05] <dr_willis> billyo:  nope. I normally  use the various flash-downloaer or flash-replacer extensions and watch flash vids that way.  but flash does work for my system with no hassles.
[07:05] <dr_willis> i just perfer to download the vids off youtube befor watching them
[07:07] <billyo> dr_willis: hmm  ..Search for 'ubuntu-restricted-extras'  .....nothing found
[07:08] <dr_willis> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:08] <dr_willis> theres also lubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:08] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:13] <billyo>  dr_willis: still nothing in software centre and in terminal...  E: Invalid operation lubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:14] <dr_willis> whats the EXACT command you are using?
[07:15] <almoxarife> !info lubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:15] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:16] <almoxarife> dr_willis: he may not have all sources checked in synaptic
[07:16] <billyo> dr_willis: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras...   Gnash, Lightspark or Swfdec what's the best you think?
[07:16] <dr_willis> best would be get the flash player working.
[07:16] <dr_willis> bester would be to never ever need flash again.
[07:17] <billyo> dr_willis: agreed ...what should we try now?
[07:17] <dr_willis> what did you install to get flash exactly the first time?
[07:18] <dr_willis> flashplugin-installer - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[07:18] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[07:18] <billyo> dr_willis: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[07:18] <dr_willis> if its installed but Not working.. thats harder. ;)
[07:18] <dr_willis> you did close/restart the browsers?
[07:19] <dr_willis> the google-chrome browser i hear has flash built in.
[07:20] <UNDERPRESSURE> hello
[07:20] <dr_willis> jello
[07:20] <billyo> dr_willis: it didn't install, there were errors. i paste-binned it but lost the link...i'll try again....good if we can figure it out without resorting to chrome..?
[07:21] <UNDERPRESSURE> hi there
[07:21] <dr_willis> theres the apt-get reinstall option to reinstall the package i guess..
[07:21] <almoxarife> billyo: no, chrome is a better browser
[07:21] <dr_willis> I use chrome and FF. ;)
[07:21] <dr_willis> depends on my needs at the time
[07:21] <almoxarife> dr_willis: chromium here for business, rekonq for browsing
[07:21] <billyo> JUst don't like the trend toward monopolisation
[07:22] <dr_willis> i like the syncing with my phone. ;P
[07:22] <dr_willis> monoplisation like adobe flash does.. ;)
[07:23] <billyo> dr_willis: yeah..alternative?  maybe there still is an alternative to chrome?
[07:23] <almoxarife> there is a little used extentition to chrome, remote-desktop
[07:23] <dr_willis> chromium-browser or google-chrome
[07:23] <almoxarife> billyo: yes, chromium
[07:23] <dr_willis> i dont think chromium has flash built in..
[07:24] <dr_willis> id just try reinstalling the flash-plugin first
[07:24] <almoxarife> dr_willis: of course it does
[07:24] <UNDERPRESSURE> ITS THE TERROR OF KNOWING WHAT THIS WORLD IS ABOUT
[07:24] <billyo> how do i install it to chromium?
[07:24] <almoxarife> UNDERPRESSURE: scary caps
[07:24] <UNDERPRESSURE> TURNED AWAY FROM IT ALL LIKE A BLIND MAN
[07:24] <almoxarife> UNDERPRESSURE: scary caps
[07:24] <UNDERPRESSURE> WAAAAAAA
[07:24] <almoxarife> UNDERPRESSURE: scary caps
[07:24] <UNDERPRESSURE> LAAAALALAAAAA
[07:24] <UNDERPRESSURE> INSANITY LAUGHS UNDER PRESSURE
[07:24] <almoxarife> UNDERPRESSURE: you dont get the hint
[07:24] <jussi> UNDERPRESSURE: #ubuntu-offtopic exists for general chat...
[07:25] <jbollden> hey, i try to install links2 but get "Package links2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.", since I'm new to ubuntu iI'm not sure how to fix this, any pointers?
[07:25] <UNDERPRESSURE> CAUSE LOVE IS SUCH AN OLD FASHIONED WORD
[07:25] <UNDERPRESSURE> AND LOVE DARES YOU TO CARE FOR
[07:25] <FloodBot1> UNDERPRESSURE: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:25] <UNDERPRESSURE> THE PEOPLE ON THE EDGE OF THE NIGHT
[07:25] <almoxarife> !chromium-browser
[07:25] <cfhowlett> !ops|UNDERPRESSURE:
[07:25] <almoxarife> !chromium
[07:25] <dr_willis> jbollden:  done a 'sudo apt-get update' lately?
[07:26] <jbollden> dr_willis: yes
[07:26] <Flannel>  /ar UNDERPRESSURE
[07:26] <billyo> dr_willis: know how  i install it to chromium?
[07:26] <UNDERPRESSURE> ok
[07:26] <UNDERPRESSURE> Flannel,
[07:27] <jbollden> dr_willis: I'm on an rackspace server, now running 12.10 (upgraded from 12.04)
[07:27] <billyo> almoxarife: know how  i install it to chromium?
[07:27] <dr_willis> billyo:  what was said earlier was that google-chrome and chromium-browser both have flash 'built in'
[07:27] <dr_willis> jbollden:  could be they dont have the normal repos enabled.
[07:28] <dr_willis> !info links2
[07:28] <dr_willis> jbollden:  make sure 'universe' repo is enabled.
 You can get testing builds for Chromium at https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa <-- billyo...
[07:29] <billyo> dr_willis: chromium doesn't...or it doesn't work..i have it installed
[07:31] <almoxarife> billyo: you just asked how to install it, then you say it is installed? which is it?
[07:31] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[07:32] <dr_willis> and thenyou said it installed but failed. ;)
[07:32] <jbollden> dr_willis: added 'universe' to the last line in /etc/apt/sources.list --> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main universe
[07:33] <billyo> almoxarife: trying to install flash...., chromium is installed
[07:33] <jbollden> dr_willis: and it's "safe" to use 'universe'? ("Universe - Community maintained software, i.e. not officially supported software.")
[07:34] <dr_willis> jbollden:  if you need packages from universe :) thats what you use..
[07:34] <jbollden> dr_willis: true =)
[07:35] <dr_willis> theres  only  so much manpower to manage all the packages. ;)
[07:37] <jbollden> dr_willis: hehe
[07:37] <jbollden> dr_willis: thanks for your help
[07:40] <billyo> dr_willis: didn't quite work http://pastebin.com/0wdg10En
[07:43] <dr_willis> flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.251.orig.tar.gz
[07:44] <dr_willis> hmm. it worked here just now when i tried it.
[07:45] <dr_willis> seems your system is having a hard time downloading the package. or somthing weird
[07:46] <fahmy> hello to all
[07:46] <yeminn> Hi
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> wilkommen
[07:47] <cfhowlett> greetings
[07:49] <Sumesh> (On Ubuntu 12.10) I have a DSL modem that I'm trying to connect to. With a bit of Googling, I found that using pppoeconf to set up the connection works. Is there any way I can replicate those settings to set up the connection the usual route(terminal command is ok for me, but not for others who use the system)?
[07:50] <notwist> Sumesh: why is the DSL modem OS specific to begin with?
[07:50] <notwist> Sumesh: every single DSL modem I've used has a web interface and has nothing to do with the client computer OS
[07:50] <Sumesh> Ok maybe DSLis the wrong term
[07:51] <Sumesh> It's a PPoE connection for sure
[07:51] <notwist> Sumesh: do you have a stand alone modem or not? i.e. a D-LINK box or something like that with a phone cable and an ethernet cable to your computer
[07:51] <Sumesh> And I set it up properly with pppoeconfig.
[07:51] <Sumesh> Standalone, yes
[07:51] <notwist> Sumesh: so have you been into the modem via the internal ip?
[07:51] <Sumesh> No router in between, it is modem -> laptop
[07:52] <notwist> Sumesh: usually the modem has an ip like 192.168.0.1 or similar where you get a web interface
[07:52] <notwist> Sumesh: the point here is that the modem should handle pppoe for you, you should only have to have DHCP enabled and get an IP from your modem
[07:52] <Sumesh> Oh
[07:53] <notwist> Sumesh: if you have a manual with your modem, read that. It specifies how to do this in 99 % of the cases
[07:53] <Sumesh> I'll try to find out the IP for my specific modem, thanks. Manual doesn't help, it's all Windows instructions
[07:53] <dr_willis> most cases they use a web interface.
[07:53] <notwist> Sumesh: well it doesnt matter if its windows if the manual says "go to this ip adress to find the web interface"
[07:53] <dr_willis> so the os dosent really matter. ;)
[07:54] <dr_willis> or you could nmap scan the network. ;)
[07:54] <notwist> Sumesh: just go to that ip in your linux browser instead
[07:54] <notwist> Sumesh: could you pastebin the output of ifconfig?
[07:55] <billyo> dr_willis: had chromium open when i did that last one..oops..just did it again and it's working in both browsers. cheers!
[07:55] <Sumesh> here s the paste http://pastebin.com/0YpCmvJu
[07:56] <dr_willis> billyo:  sounds like the server had some issue
[07:56] <notwist> Sumesh: is your eth0 connected to your modem?
[07:56] <Sumesh> yes
[07:56] <notwist> Sumesh: what model is your modem?
[07:58] <sumesh_> DBC. But I can't find the exact model
[07:59] <notwist> sumesh_: is the manufacturer only called DBC?
[08:00] <sumesh_> yes
[08:00] <billyo> dr_willis: yeah, anyway, thanks doc
[08:00] <notwist> sumesh_: I can't even find that on Google... could you look in the manual and see if you can explain in short what it tells you to do when setting up the modem?
[08:00] <sumesh_> thanks for the help, guys. I'll try to find the make and model, hopefully a google search should then turn up its web admin IP
[08:13] <cyberburn> hey room
[08:14] <dr_willis> Jello
[08:14] <cyberburn> hey dr_willis
[08:14] <cfhowlett> greetings
[08:15] <cyberburn> hey cfhowlett
[08:16] <cfhowlett> cyberburn: what's the ubuntu issue?
[08:17] <cyberburn> theres no issue just saying whats up lol
[08:18] <thor> Good morning
[08:19] <Jimster480-L> morning
[08:19] <Jimster480-L> even though its the middle of the night xD
[08:20] <cyberburn> hey thor
[08:22] <stroodlepup> guys,
[08:22] <stroodlepup> hi
[08:22] <stroodlepup> how do you load old kernel drivers? my card reader can't be read properly
[08:22] <Jimster480-L> old kernel drivers?
[08:23] <Jimster480-L> rebuild the kernel with the drivers you need or install them manually
[08:23] <dr_willis> or boot an older kernel. ;)
[08:23] <dr_willis> if it works with an older knrnel. but not a newer one it may be worth while to file a bug report
[08:24] <Jimster480-L> well he can check the build options
[08:24] <Jimster480-L> becuase if his reader is quite old
[08:24] <Jimster480-L> alot of really old hardware
[08:24] <Jimster480-L> isnt supported in the general new kernel builds
[08:24] <Jimster480-L> because they dont compile with literally everything
[08:24] <Jimster480-L> atleast it depends on the distro and who they are building it fr
[08:24] <Jimster480-L> for*
[08:25] <dr_willis> Normally within a release.  they dont do major kernel updates however. from what ive seen.
[08:25] <dr_willis> so the question is i guess.. what kernel did it work with.. and what kernel does it now not work with/
[08:26] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: what type of card reader? pls pastebin 'lsusb' and 'lspci'
[08:28] <germanstudent> Hi! Not quite sure if I'm right here. I want to edit id3v2 Tags with the command line. With ide2v2 I get weird characters in some files. mp3info just edits id3v1.x. Is there a better tool for that purpose?
[08:31] <ganesha> i l it
[08:31] <ganesha> hwt are doing ?
[08:32] <srhb> Hi! I have a question about debugging. Sometimes my X server starts up with llvmpipe-rendering and everything is slow. I can't find the obvious culprit in the Xorg log file, so I'm wondering where I need to look to determine the cause?
[08:32] <ganesha> how r u?
[08:33] <almoxarife> srhb: looked in /var/log/syslog ?
[08:33] <srhb> almoxarife: No I hadn't. I'll try to take a look trough there. :)
[08:37] <srhb> Huh, okay, there's something in the Xorg logs after all. In the "good log" all settings are set by intel(0) whereas in the "bad log" everything is modeset(0). So I'm guessing the driver is wrong?
[08:38] <almoxarife> srhb: do the drivers differ?
[08:39] <scarleo> Hello, anyone know if there is a problem running a crontab with a range over midnight? 10 22-05 * * * isn't running but 10 07-15 * * * is running fine, any tips?
[08:40] <srhb> almoxarife: How do I check?
[08:40] <almoxarife> scarleo: interesting question
[08:40] <almoxarife> srhb: the logs show you what driver loaded
[08:41] <srhb> I'm not sure what line I should look at. Is it this? ABI class: X.org Video Driver, version 13.0 -- that's identical in both good and bad
[08:41] <almoxarife> scarleo: yeap, the first wont work, 0-23 would
[08:42] <scarleo> almoxarife, yes, I am a bit surprised but it is definitely not running
[08:42] <scarleo> almoxarife, Oh, ok, any documentation?
[08:42] <almoxarife> http://www.adminschoice.com/crontab-quick-reference
[08:43] <almoxarife> scarleo: man crontab should also
[08:44] <scarleo> almoxarife, there are no mentions of over midnight ranges in man, I'll check your link
[08:45] <srhb> I'm guessing where things go wrong is the "vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver"
[08:45] <scarleo> almoxarife, I've been through that page already, nothing there other than what values it accepts (0-23)
[08:45] <srhb> Weird thing is that I would assume restart lightdm shouldn't fix the problem then, but it does (occasionally)
[08:48] <stroodlepup> @almoxarife it's a an hp 550 laptop, the card reader seems generic...
[08:48] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: what type of card reader? pls pastebin 'lsusb' and 'lspci'
[08:49] <stroodlepup> almoxarife, http://pastebin.com/Vtu0jaJ8
[08:49] <stroodlepup> dmesg
[08:49] <stroodlepup> wait wrong, it was lspci
[08:49] <awestroke> is there a way to disable showing the grub menu but still allow choosing an operative system on boot? like, holding u boots into ubuntu
[08:50] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: yeah, that was lspci
[08:51] <awestroke> oh, I can hold shift to display the grub menu by default
[08:51] <awestroke> perfect
[08:52] <stroodlepup> lsusb : http://pastebin.com/4iNKWQ2h
[08:52] <TJ-> Using 12.04 (on a server), is there any solution yet for ordering/delaying fstab mounts in upstart (this isn't a _netdev issue - its lots of local LVMs and an rbind to the NFS root)
[08:53] <notwist> TJ-: have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1299274 ?
[08:55] <TJ-> notwist: That's the _netdev issue (client's unable to resolve/find the NFS host until the network is up). The issue I'm on about is local to the server
[08:55] <notwist> ok, just checking
[08:55] <TJ-> notwist: Thanks :) I wish it were that easy!
[08:55] <widviu> anyone use the Kana layout to write Japanese?
[08:57] <srhb> I believe I found the source of my problems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1070150 -- apparently my computer is "too fast" causing the graphics startup to occasionally meet some race condition and fail in interesting ways. :-)
[08:57] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: does not look good, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/366478
[08:58] <stroodlepup> how is this related?
[08:58] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: your card reader, the bug
[08:58] <stroodlepup> my card reader worked for older kernel versions before...
[08:59] <almoxarife> srhb: too quick a machine, could be worse :)
[09:01] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: what kernel are you at now and which kernel worked?
[09:01] <srhb> almoxarife: Yes. I'll try sleeping it for a few seconds before the lightdm launch, perhaps that will work. :)
[09:02] <stroodlepup> I use linux 3.5, and 3.2.0.34
[09:03] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: any particular reason you need 3.5?
[09:04] <stroodlepup> none, but i need 3.2.0.34 pae for VM stuff
[09:04] <stroodlepup> card reader not working on both kernel versions
[09:04] <stroodlepup> :(
[09:04] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: which version kernel did the card work on?
[09:05] <stroodlepup> bodhi's 1.3 kernel...
[09:05] <stroodlepup> i meant bodhi linux 1.3...
[09:05] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: invest in a new card reader that is compatible
[09:06] <stroodlepup> there aint any. even external ones do not work :(
[09:06] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: good luck
[09:06] <vp18> any word on the next version?
[09:07] <stroodlepup> i'll try the usb_modules fix
[09:09] <almoxarife> stroodlepup: do you have the headers for the kernel installed?
[09:11] <stroodlepup> yes
[09:11] <stroodlepup> and dmesg said this
[09:11] <stroodlepup> end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0
[09:18] <RomeoAva> Please, my resolution in Ubuntu12.10 is not working. I have only 1024x768(4:3) in settings. The comp does't start sometimes, is black.
[09:19] <RomeoAva> I need to restrt the comp a few times until is going in a good shape.
[09:20] <RomeoAva> And frozen some moments
[09:21] <RomeoAva> the error: The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly
[09:23] <RomeoAva> The mouse is blinking
[09:23] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: during boot at grub, memtest is a option, run that first, your issues may be hardware related
[09:24] <RomeoAva> almoxafire all this starts a few days at an update
[09:24] <RomeoAva> regular one
[09:24] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: during boot at grub, memtest is a option, run that first, your issues may be hardware related
[09:24] <RomeoAva> I dont know how to do it
[09:26] <RomeoAva> memtest . I finde it at boot? I stop with F2 and I will finde it there?
[09:26] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: yes
[09:27] <RomeoAva> ok I tray
[09:30] <tidux> I just installed Xubuntu 12.10 on a Dell Latitude D630, and the kernel doesn't see my battery
[09:30] <tidux> when I unplug my AC adapter the battery warning LED turns red
[09:30] <tidux> and it switches to low power mode
[09:31] <tidux> running "acpi" as root or sudo returns no output whatsoever
[09:31] <tidux> how do I fix this?
[09:33] <administraor> installed ubuntu 12.04.1 setup vnc server headless and all is working boot pc with no monitor conected system only boots to tty1 not to xubuntu gui.  How can i get it to boot into gui with no monitor attached to the pc
[09:35] <BeerBuzzer> виндоуз форевер
[09:35] <lhavelund> !ru | BeerBuzzer
[09:40] <RomeoAva> almoxarife I was in Boot settings with F@ an I find the button MAIN and under some other and SATA MMODE button. That is?
[09:43] <RomeoAva> almoxarife but the comp is working normal, well, after a few reboots, when it goes in good display settings. All is normal. But after 3-4 reboots.
[09:47] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: something is not right, but if its working leave it alone
[09:49] <FluxiFlax2022> hi all I did install dkimproxy and configured dns and postfix, however I keep getting the following error : DKIM result: permerror (no key)
[09:50] <RomeoAva> almoxarife and that starts about 5 days ago after a dayly update, Wen I close the comp there was an warning: The gnome is not finish yet or not responding. and I close it anyway
[09:50] <RomeoAva> cud be someting with gnome
[09:50] <RomeoAva> because I dont use Compiz
[09:50] <RomeoAva> I use Unuty
[09:51] <RomeoAva> without any aditional settings
[09:51] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[09:51] <RomeoAva> yes that I was thinking
[09:51] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: follow that with the command, sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:52] <RomeoAva> because is upsetting to tray to open the comp 3, 4 times until is good enough
[09:52] <RomeoAva> ok
[09:54] <dr_willis> RomeoAva:  what Ubuntu release are you Using exactly?
[09:54] <RomeoAva> Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner amd64 Packages
[09:54] <RomeoAva> and
[09:54] <RomeoAva> Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner i386 Packages
[09:55] <dr_willis> Your sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ have a redundant entry.. thats not a critical error.
[09:56] <dr_willis> a standard sources.list for 12.10 is here --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1425017/
 is 12.10
[09:57] <dr_willis> and Unity is a Plugin for Compiz in 12.10  so imnot sure how you can not be using Compiz when you are Using Unity. ;)
[09:58] <RomeoAva> :)
[09:58] <RomeoAva> today I learn someting again. thanks dr_willis
[09:58] <RomeoAva> seems to be good now. I will reboot to see
[09:59] <almoxarife> he loves to reboot
[09:59] <dr_willis> 'Activate Super Powers! Reboot!'
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> i guess beginners mean desktop effects, when they say Compiz - wobbly windows etc
[10:00] <dr_willis> Some days i dont have a clue what these beginners mean.. ;)
[10:00] <dr_willis> then they get mad when you try to get them to use the correct terms...
[10:00]  * dr_willis starts calling the computer Mouse a 'turtle'  :P
[10:01] <RomeoAva> the same. nothing happened
[10:02] <RomeoAva> it's open in a wrong display seting 4:3 and there are no other setings
[10:02] <RomeoAva> aviable
[10:04] <ErdMutter> Recently my installations though the Software Centre have been getting stuck at the last sliver of the install. How might I go about troubleshooting what is causing this?
[10:05] <dr_willis> ErdMutter:  id start with using the command line and doing a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' (perhaps an apt-get dist-upgrade)  and then try installing some little app  (sudo apt-get install mc)   then try the software center.
[10:05] <dr_willis> its possible you will get some error message that may lead to  what teh issue is..
[10:06] <ErdMutter> dr_willis: thanks I will give that a try.
[10:06] <dr_willis> I rarely use the software center. ;)
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  it's because you're a command line geek ;)
[10:07] <ErdMutter> I only use it when I am only given a deb. Other wise I am in terminal xD
[10:07] <dr_willis> ErdMutter:  err.. use 'sudo gdebi foo.deb' ;P
[10:21] <RomeoAva> dr_willis what to do with this list:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1425017/
[10:22] <dr_willis> thats a default  /etc/apt/sources.list file. You posted an error/message where you had duplicate lines...
[10:22] <dr_willis> either your sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/FILES have a redundant entry
[10:24] <RomeoAva> and?
[10:24] <germanstudent> can someone recommend a good command line id3tag editor? mp3info just writes id3v1.x tags, id3v2 writes weird characters in some files. Any suggestions?
[10:24] <dr_willis> and i guess you dont want to fix it..  ;)
[10:24] <SarcasMo> I changed my document root to /var/www/Cake_2_3/app/webroot to make cakephp work, but now I cant use phpmyadmin, I tried to extract it to the new docment root and to open it in the browser with localhost/Cake_2_3/app/webroot/phpmyadmin but it doesn't work, what can I do to make phpmyadmin AND Cakephp to work
[10:24] <dr_willis> Night all.. bed time for me.
[10:27] <iceroot> SarcasMo: use the normal document-root and create apache-aliases or vhosts
[10:27] <iceroot> SarcasMo: help for apache can be found on #httpd
[10:27] <SarcasMo> iceroot: thx :)
[10:28] <micjan02> i have a share that is mounted over nfs (sync,no_root_squash,no_check_subtree). i have access to it both from client and server side. i want to chown a directory to a specific user and group from client side, but chown says "opperation not permitted". i have a+w permission on all the files in this specific path (let's call it nfs_mount:/d/d/c) and i own the leaf directory. what other permissions do i need?
[10:34] <psiklops> Hi. Where can i find a list of the meanings of the locales  located in /usr/share/locale ?
[10:34] <isildur> italiano?
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> !it
[10:34] <isildur> ty
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> micjan02  what's the chown command you're using?
[10:36] <donnie> I have 'visual effects' disabled from the menu. But i'm still getting 'effects' when I shrink windows. How do I kill that
[10:36] <micjan02> MonkeyDust, chown 1012:1012 c
[10:36] <psiklops> there are a bunch of Directorys in /usr/share/locale  that i do not know the meaning of, ie.   /us/share/locale/yi   and i am trying to get rid of unneeded locales by hand
[10:36] <psiklops> rm -rf ...
[10:37] <iceroot> psiklops: why?
[10:37] <blackshirt> !find locales
[10:37] <iceroot> psiklops: dont delete something you dont understand
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> micjan02  and what is this 1012 and this c ?
[10:37] <domie> removing important stuff that you don't understand makes you understand it!
[10:37] <psiklops> iceroot, what are they used for then ?
[10:38] <domie> while at the same time breaking your system
[10:38] <psiklops> domie, :-) good one
[10:38] <iceroot> micjan02: if i am correct you have to be 1012 or be part of the group 1012 to chown that
[10:38] <iceroot> micjan02: or use sudo
[10:38] <iceroot> micjan02: it has nothing to do with nfs in this case
[10:39] <iceroot> micjan02: of course, part of the group with the gid 1012 :)
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> oh, 1012 is a user?
[10:39] <psiklops> iceroot, do i need most of  the locale displayed in /usr/share/locale ?
[10:40] <iceroot> psiklops: dpkg needs them
[10:40] <micjan02> MonkeyDust, why would you ask for the commandline if you don't know the meaning of params?
[10:40] <psiklops> iceroot, can you refer me to documention on the subject ?
[10:40] <psiklops> iceroot, i use slackware
[10:40] <iceroot> psiklops: and other systems tools which have registered them
[10:40] <iceroot> psiklops: then why you are in #ubuntu?
[10:40] <micjan02> iceroot, hmm, ok. ty
[10:40] <iceroot> psiklops: #slackware
[10:40] <psiklops> oh, i wrong channel
[10:40] <psiklops> sorry
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> micjan02  i was confused, because the number is a user, it's uncommon to have a number as username
[10:40] <psiklops> lol
[10:40] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: on nfs you have to use uids
[10:41] <micjan02> iceroot, no you don't
[10:41] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: nfs is based only on uids and not on names, it will match the names on the local machine not the nfs server
[10:41] <micjan02> iceroot, it's just that you might run into trouble if you don't, but that doesn't mean you *have to*
[10:41] <iceroot> micjan02: but it can get confusing when using names on nfs
[10:42] <iceroot> micjan02: yes, i guess we mean the same :)
[10:42] <iceroot> micjan02: but its always a good idea to not run inti trouble :)
[10:42] <micjan02> iceroot, there are set ups (like the one i use here) where users are shared across whole domain (and actually ~ is nfs-mounted too)
[10:42] <micjan02> iceroot, so using usernames is perfectly ok
[10:43] <iceroot> micjan02: on domains, yes
[10:43] <iceroot> micjan02: but normally you are not using domains and then you will have trouble with nfs and different users over different systems
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> micjan02  FYI: there's also #ubuntu-server
[10:49] <Lartza> Perl 5.16 for precise? :/
[10:52] <CommaCrazy> hi all
[10:53] <CommaCrazy> question what is the remote desktop (default to ubuntu (vnc))
[10:53] <CommaCrazy> how can I check if I am allowed to connect to it command line
[10:54] <CommaCrazy> I had it turned on, worked just fine, did an upgrade and now it does not work (remote machine (have access trough ssh))
[10:55] <khildin> if you already have SSH access, why not use X over SSH?
[10:56] <kress> Hi.. I just installed ubuntu (latest dist) on my laptop and having difficulties installing the graphics card its a ati radeon 6370m. Anyone got a suggestion on what I should do?
[10:56] <Zta> How can I reconfigure the network from the command line?  I basically want to change it from using DHCP to fully manually configure the ip-adresses because I made a mistake durring installation.  Is there a dpkg-reconfigure network'ish command?
[10:56] <CommaCrazy> because my colleague is used to VNC and she cannot administer any other way :)
[10:58] <almoxarife> Zta: the package would be 'networkmanager' by default
[10:58] <poq> I made a sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test - sudo apt-get update - sudo apt-get install gcc-4.7 but my IDE still uses 4.6.3. What is the problem? gcc -v return 4.6.3 and gcc-4.7 -v returns 4.7.2... How can I update gcc to make return it 4.7.2?
[10:58] <blackshirt> vnc4server was available
[10:59] <Zta> almoxarife: Doesn't work, but thanks.  I found this http://serverfault.com/questions/156517/how-do-i-get-ubuntu-to-reconfigure-etc-network-interfaces-for-me and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html instead =)
[10:59] <almoxarife> poq: is it a server?
[11:00] <khildin> Zta - maybe this helps: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html (you could have found that yourself, i am sure!)
[11:00] <almoxarife> poq: wrong nick, sorry
[11:00] <opr> hi, when i resume after a suspend, the mouse/keyboard is very laggy for 1-5 minutes (the time length is not constant) and in some cases the mouse stops working altogether. googling has not yielded any results
[11:01] <poq> almoxarife: lubuntu 12.04 (not server)
[11:01] <Zta> khildin: I could, but it wasn't what I was looking for in the first place.  But thanks.
[11:02] <lancecoder> hello people, i have simple ask - how do remembering the window size in transmission (download window). Do one size, open next torrents other size (default, minimize width, not show inner files)(((
[11:02] <almoxarife> poq: un-install 4.6.3 and rename gcc-44.7 to gcc?
[11:03] <poq> almoxarife: is it any repository with gcc updates without such operations like renaming?
[11:04] <CommaCrazy> how do I enable remote desktop access command line?? vino-preferences does not open in command line
[11:04] <CommaCrazy> is there a way to access those settings trough cli
[11:04] <almoxarife> poq: i am wondering if un-installing 4.6.3 while retaining 4.7 would do that by default, rename that is
[11:05] <almoxarife> CommaCrazy: vino is a server?
[11:05] <mital> hi can anybody tell me what vncserver to be used which can provide me graphical interface.. I am on 12.04
[11:06] <almoxarife> CommaCrazy: tried sudo service vino restart?
[11:06] <CommaCrazy> Vino is the default VNC server in Ubuntu to share your existing desktop with other users
[11:06] <CommaCrazy> yeah I tried running it and it tells me that it cannot open display
[11:07] <CommaCrazy> and when I tried host + it told me that no other hosts are allowed to connect
[11:07] <CommaCrazy> so I need to find a way to "allow remote desktop connection" but trough cli not gui
[11:07] <almoxarife> CommaCrazy: i am talking about 'starting the service' at the host, is that what you want?
[11:07] <CommaCrazy> because I'm connected remotely to it
[11:07] <CommaCrazy> yes
[11:08] <almoxarife> CommaCrazy: do you have ssh to the host?
[11:08] <CommaCrazy> yes
[11:08] <CommaCrazy> on it right now
[11:08] <lancecoder> спасибо, ничем вы нихрена не помогли
[11:08] <almoxarife> CommaCrazy: connect to host via ssh, and execute 'sudo service vino restart'
[11:09] <CommaCrazy> it tells me vino: unrecognized service
[11:09] <CommaCrazy> ...
[11:10] <kress> hi, anyone got time for helping a noob?
[11:10] <almoxarife> CommaCrazy: connect to host via ssh, and execute 'sudo /etc/init.d vino restart'
[11:10] <almoxarife> CommaCrazy: connect to host via ssh, and execute 'sudo /etc/init.d/vino restart' <-- this one
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> !ask | kress
[11:11] <kress> aight
[11:11] <almoxarife> !find vino
[11:11] <kress> I am having trouble installing my graphics card, I think I found the apropriate driver, but I dont know to run it :p
[11:12] <almoxarife> !vino
[11:12] <CommaCrazy> not found
[11:14] <almoxarife> !vnc
[11:16] <almoxarife> CommaCrazy: is vino installed on the host?
[11:17] <Lartza> Why does tightvnc start xterm by default?
[11:17] <Lartza> Can't find it in any of the startup files
[11:18] <almoxarife> Lartza: you mean why dont you see your desktop with tightvnc?
[11:18] <Lartza> No
[11:18] <Lartza> it's a server
[11:20] <euan> join #plug
[11:21] <CommaCrazy> yes
[11:21] <CommaCrazy> it is
[11:21] <almoxarife> Lartza: why use tightvnc on a server?
[11:21] <CommaCrazy> I managed to got it running from command line
[11:21] <CommaCrazy> but
[11:21] <Lartza> almoxarife, What then?
[11:21] <CommaCrazy> now it does not let me login
[11:21] <almoxarife> Lartza: ssh?
[11:21] <Lartza> almoxarife, Graphical wine program :)
[11:22] <almoxarife> Lartza: ok, ssh with x11 forwarding
[11:23] <Lartza> almoxarife, I don't see the problem with VNC...
[11:23] <almoxarife> Lartza: ok
[11:23] <Lartza> Ok?
[11:24] <almoxarife> Lartza: ok, you dont see prob with using vnc
[11:24] <Lartza> almoxarife, Should I see one?
[11:25] <almoxarife> Lartza: you said it was a server, servers usually dont have graphical interface, i dont know what you got, your talking about graphical wine, sort of lost
[11:25] <mital> almoxarife, thanks for pointing me to vino.. can you help me one more time I need to increase the desktop resolution not sure where I can change
[11:26] <Lartza> almoxarife, Yeah I am running a Windows program with wine that needs to display graphical output
[11:26] <almoxarife> mital: depends on the client i guess
[11:26] <mital> ok which client do u recommend.. I am using the default one "Reminna"
[11:27] <Lartza> almoxarife, Also I need the program running constantly so X11 forwarding would kill it on disconnect, right?
[11:27] <mital> almoxarife, the other machine is also ubuntu
[11:27] <almoxarife> mital: i dont vnc, and i use the default KDE app for remote, so i am still lost as to how to do it from your end
[11:29] <mital> ok so my problem seems local to that machine.. I set it up just now .. and it seems it has lower resolution.. I need to fix that by increasing in that machine
[11:30] <almoxarife> Lartza: yes, sort of, you ssh in and start an app it will close when you leave, unless its daemonized, but with some wine app, i dont know what or how to make it work
[11:31] <vijay_> hello to every one
[11:34] <Lartza> How do I reset perl? Like it was just installed
[11:34] <Lartza> I broke some CPAN I think
[11:35] <Lartza> Ahh nvm
[11:36] <soulnafein> Hello guys, I'm having a bit of problems with color depth on Ubuntu 12.04 on Macbook Air 3,2 using Nouveau drivers. E.g. the wallpaper I'm using has gradients, the gradients appear really rough, not smooth as if I have a low color depth
[11:36] <anonymous> assalamu alaykum
[11:36] <Puddingfork> Would my problem here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2093499 be solved by reinstalling ubuntu in uefi?
[11:36] <soulnafein> any idea what to look for?
[11:36] <CommaCrazy> got it
[11:37] <CommaCrazy> the problem was that I had auto login set up in the old version and when it upgraded to the new one, it stopped the autologin
[11:38] <CommaCrazy> so it could not go into gnom
[11:38] <CommaCrazy> and could not make a display to which vino can connect to
[11:39] <Lartza> Where does perl install stuff? :/
[11:39] <CommaCrazy> so just edited /etc/gdm/custom.conf and got it working
[11:39] <CommaCrazy> do locate perl
[11:39] <Lartza> cpan
[11:39] <CommaCrazy> in terminal
[11:39] <Lartza> Sorry
[11:39] <Lartza> Where does sudo cpan install stuff
[11:39] <CommaCrazy> /usr/bincpan
[11:39] <CommaCrazy> /usr/bin/cpan
[11:39] <Lartza> CommaCrazy, ...
[11:40] <CommaCrazy> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/LWP/Protocol/cpan.pm
[11:40] <CommaCrazy> XD
[11:40] <Lartza> does apt-get require perl?
[11:41] <CommaCrazy> Lartza, http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=630026
[11:43] <SocialEvil> i suppose a lot of people ask this but is there a easy way to remove this ..actually to make the 12.10 look like 10.10 with "accessories" menu top left and stuff.. and get rid of the line on the left with a lot of icons :) or its a painful job ?
[11:43] <jrib> SocialEvil: try xfce (install the xubuntu-desktop package)
[11:44] <SocialEvil> i want gnome :)
[11:44] <jrib> SocialEvil: why?
[11:44] <Lartza> CommaCrazy, Not sure how that helps, still haven't been able to reset perl...
[11:44] <SocialEvil> is there older version of gnome i can install ?
[11:44] <jrib> SocialEvil: not really
[11:44] <Puddingfork> SocialEvil: Install Cinnamon
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> SocialEvil  no need to uninstall anything, I use gnome Classic myself, just install it, select it in lightDM and login
[11:44] <jaysonr> SocialEvil: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[11:44] <Lartza> I've removed .cpan, /shares, /etc/perl
[11:45] <jrib> MonkeyDust: gnome-classic isn't available in 12.10, is it?
[11:45] <jaysonr> SocialEvil: log out, and choose GNOME as your sesion, this will give you a "classic" gnome session similar to GNOME2 (but still a little different)
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> jrib  it is, as i am using it ATM
[11:45] <jrib> Lartza: you're not supposed to touch files managed by apt.  Apt should be the one dealing with those files
[11:45] <jaysonr> SocialEvil: it's based on the GNOME3 "Fallback" session, but that is going away after this release too :(
[11:45] <Lartza> jrib, Which what?
[11:46] <Lartza> jrib, sudo cpan was a bad idea, now I can't revert it
[11:46] <almoxarife> Lartza: you are distroying your system
[11:46] <Lartza> Luckily a reinstall takes two minutes ;)
[11:46] <Lartza> Oh I just did break it :S
[11:47] <jrib> Lartza: what's wrong with your perl now?
[11:47] <Lartza> jrib, apt-get stoped working ;)
[11:47] <Lartza> I'll do a reinstall :P
[11:47] <lucido> I'm having problems setting up scanning using the samsung unified printing drivers, what do?
[11:48] <lucido> also how can I analyze my memory usage?
[11:48] <SocialEvil> thanks guys :)
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> lucido  htop ?
[11:58] <iceroot> lucido: free -m
[11:58] <Sumesh> Installed a bunch of software after a fresh 12.10 install, restarted and now I can't see any unity bits
[11:58] <Sumesh> firefox is open but not maximizable
[11:58] <Sumesh> I opened firefox by creating a new file on desktop (that's about the only thing I can do)
[11:59] <Sumesh> I guess this must be because one of the new apps I installed has a problem. Any known causes? I can open Software center (but not terminal)
[12:01] <Puddingfork> If I reinstall Ubuntu, making sure to boot the liveUSB in UEFI will grub recognise Windows 7?
[12:02] <gramm> salut je n'arrive pas a installé tor voila ce que me dit le message Vidalia detected that the Tor software exited unexpectedly.
[12:02] <gramm> Please check the message log for recent warning or error messages.
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> gramm  most people here don't understand french, i do, but please continue in english - there's also #ubuntu-fr
[12:07] <gramm> ok monkeydust thank you
[12:09] <danny> Hi all
[12:10] <danny> I'm trying to set my OS X partition as active. I installed hfsplus hfstools hfsprogs and gptsync. when i do fdisk i get WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'!
[12:11] <danny> when i try to use gdisk, tjhere seems to be no option to set the active partition
[12:11] <danny> Does anyone know how to set the active partition?
[12:11] <lukicat> hey folks, got an sony vaio x laptop with an intel gma500. the screen ist flickering on ubuntu 12.04 any ideas to solve it?
[12:13] <nopf> um, where was it that i can switch off desktop effects in 12.10?
[12:14] <danny> http://pastie.org/5510663
[12:14] <danny> I need to set the hfs+ partition to active. can anyone help?
[12:17] <wachpwnski> what is the screen recorder app that spans the text that is typed across the screen?
[12:18] <wiggmpk> how can I get the Me status menu to work with pidgin, switch it from "Unavailable" (which is currently grayed out) on Ubuntu 12.04
[12:19] <millerthegorilla> hey
[12:20] <millerthegorilla> does anyone know if my linux commands in /bin directory are 0755
[12:20] <nopf> is it gone completely? (this is a new installation on a small device with non accelerated graphics hardware)
[12:20] <millerthegorilla> it means that kill can be used without admin permissions
[12:20] <DrGrov> I wondering if it is possible to somehow create own custom wallpapers slideshows for 12.04? Like the default wallpaper. How does setting the wallpaper work for the login screen? I am always getting the same one, just the default ones are both on desktop and login screen.
[12:20] <danny> I'm tryng to set my HFS+ partition to active. Thanks in advance for any help. http://pastie.org/5510663
[12:21] <nopf> millerthegorilla: why not? 5 means everyone kann r and x
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  you need to create an .xml file to that end, moment...
[12:21] <nopf> millerthegorilla: oops, yes, that's what you stated
[12:21] <wachpwnski> millerthegorilla:  ls -las
[12:22] <lucido> sane-find-scanner doesnt find my samsung scanner connected via usb, its a multifunction and printing works
[12:22] <nopf> millerthegorilla: yes, everyone can 'use' kill... but kill only 'can kill' the user's own processes. this is implemented by they kernel, not the filesystem
[12:22] <millerthegorilla> thanks
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  there are plenty howto's, here's one: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/create-wallpaper-slideshow-with-xml.html
[12:24] <lukicat> hey folks, got an sony vaio x laptop with an intel gma500. the screen ist flickering on ubuntu 12.04 any ideas to solve it?
[12:26] <Eagleman> I have a few zombie processes, and google wont give me information about them, any idea on what to do?
[12:26] <Eagleman> root     10275  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    Dec10   0:00 [libvirt_iohelpe] <defunct>
[12:26] <Eagleman> robin    12959  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    13:22   0:00 [ssh] <defunct>
[12:27] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: Okay, thank you for posting a direct link. Saves me some googling ;-)
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  http://www.geekride.com/zombie-process-defunct-linux/
[12:34] <vivi__> bt5 user pm me pls
[12:35] <DrGrov> ikonia: Hi there. I got the GPU rendering in order with the latest VLC 2.0.3 and enabling it in VLC, without any need to fiddle inside nvidia-settings.
[12:35] <wiggmpk> is it possible to integrate the "me menu" with pidgin so I can change the status, seems to only work with Empathy (which I dislike a lot) - Running 12.04 w/ Gnome 3
[12:36] <ikonia> DrGrov: that's great news
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> vivi__  please type /join #backtrack-linux
[12:36] <DrGrov> ikonia: Yes it is. I am really happy that 720p video was so smooth that the GPU did not even make any noise like it did on 10.04. Just one thing I started wondering about that I should perhaps ask in order to confirm.
[12:37] <ikonia> DrGrov: anything your not sure about, just ask
[12:37] <ikonia> DrGrov: better to ask and move forward with info, than take a blind guess
[12:37] <DrGrov> ikonia: Thank you. So I wonder that how does VDPAU actually work and how to verify that if I have it enabled or not?
[12:38] <ElectricPrism> How do I mount a NTFS / Fuse filesystem to a specific directory by command?
[12:38] <DrGrov> ikonia: Somehow to figure out what it does in practice and what GPU chipsets are supported.
[12:39] <ikonia> DrGrov: why do you want it if you don't know what it does ?
[12:41] <DrGrov> ikonia: Well I know it utilizes the GPU chipset and puts all heavy work on the GPU instead of CPU. Not sure exactly in practice that what it does. Just got a hint about it, nothing concrete but really like to figure it out.
[12:42] <ikonia> DrGrov: I dont know much about it, I just do'nt quite get why you are trying to pursue things you don't know about, when you don't need to change anything
[12:42] <ikonia> I could understand it if you needed to improve things, but as it's working as you expect, I don't see the need to change your working config
[12:44] <IdleOne> DrGrov: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU has more info if you are interested
[12:46] <DrGrov> ikonia: Well, there is always room for improvement. A small thing here and a small thing there can perhaps make a bigger impact later.
[12:46] <wachpwnski> anyone know how I can set my terminal hotkeys?
[12:46] <ikonia> DrGrov: why ? are you having bad performanc e?
[12:46] <DrGrov> ikonia: Well, I can read myself into what it is. I am not an illiterate, at least not to my knowledge.
[12:47] <ikonia> DrGrov: I don't know much about it at all, but I do not believe you should be trying to change your config for no reason
[12:47] <DrGrov> ikonia: No, not bad performance but I like to see if VDPAU could make it even smoother for even larger 1080p HD videos.
[12:47] <ikonia> DrGrov: is it not smooth for 1080p ?
[12:48] <DrGrov> IdleOne: Thank you, I did not read it on Wikipedia initially. Thanks for that clear link. I must start to use Wikipedia more frequently since it does make sense even with Linux based things.
[12:48] <ikonia> keep in mind wikipedia is not always correct, it's maintained by "anyone"
[12:49] <lukicat> hey folks, got an sony vaio x laptop with an intel gma500. the screen ist flickering on ubuntu 12.04 any ideas to solve it?
[12:49] <DrGrov> ikonia: It is smooth enough for 1080p videos running at an average bitrate of 4500-6500. But I like to get even higher 1080p videos running, more like 8000-10000.
[12:50] <DrGrov> ikonia: Yes, I rarely trust anything I read on Wikipedia. I always use Wikipedia only for 2nd source. Primary source material from somewhere else preferrably if it can be found easier/better from other sources.
[12:50] <ikonia> DrGrov: what happens if you increase it
[12:50] <ikonia> (as in the bitrate increase)
[12:51] <DrGrov> ikonia: I am about to test that today so I am not sure whether it will work perfectly or not but as precausion I am already reading up on VDPAU since I might need it. Can not hurt to read about it.
[12:51] <ikonia> DrGrov: why are you talking about tuning something when you don't even know if you have a problem or not
[12:52] <ikonia> DrGrov: you're making a problem before even known one exists
[12:52] <DrGrov> ikonia: Since I had issues with it on 10.04, not too sure that things have changed that much from 10.04 to 12.04. But I could be wrong.
[12:53] <ikonia> again - why are you trying to find a solution for a problem you don't even know you have
[12:53] <ikonia> test it - see what problems you do/don't have, fix it
[12:53] <DrGrov> ikonia: No, I am not making a problem before. I am merely stating that I had issues previously and already then thought about VDPAU but I could not install it on 10.04. Or at least it was not built as a package, required quite much tweaking.
[12:54] <ikonia> DrGrov: right, so you may not need to do anything, you may not have any problem at all
[12:54] <ikonia> and you're tyring to find a solution for something that hasn't happened yet
[12:54] <Ben64> you don't need to install vdpau, it "just works" after you install the nvidia driver
[12:54] <DrGrov> ikonia: Yes, I might not have any issues but I like to use my time to read about it now when waiting for a test 1080p that has that high bitrate.
[12:55] <DrGrov> Ben64: Ah, that is new information for me. I thought it needed something extra from repos or something more tricky than that. SO that is why my GPU was running so smooth and with very little workload. Thank you for clearing it up. Saves me time.
[12:56] <Ben64> of course, the video player needs to support it. mplayer uses it if by default if available
[12:58] <DrGrov> Ben64: Does it cover more than just MPlayer, VLC as well?
[12:58] <Ben64> I don't use vlc, so I don't know
[12:58] <DrGrov> Ben64: Okay, I will test with SMPlayer to confirm if it acts the same as with VLC.
[12:58] <DrGrov> Ben64: Thank you again for clearing that up for me. Saves me a lot of time.
[13:01] <m719b> !ciao
[13:01] <m719b> !list
[13:02] <Eagleman> !factoid
[13:05] <anev> just installed libxml2 from via apt-get but it's missing xmlmemory.h ?
[13:06] <KI4RO> .
[13:07] <Pici> anev: you need libxml2-dev
[13:07] <Heather_> where can I ask htaccess questions?
[13:08] <Pici> Heather_: #httpd (apache's support channel) would probably be the best place.
[13:08] <Heather_> thanks
[13:19] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> hello all
[13:20] <Mukhthar_Ahmed> ubuntu 10.04lts server my-small.cnf,  service mysql start freezes.
[13:27] <billymeter> is it just me? or is the irc server really laggy this morning?
[13:28] <philinux> lag = .1 seconds here
[13:28] <billymeter> hmm.... must be me then. thanks
[13:30] <phr3d13> i recently added xorg edgers ppa, removed x-swat ppa, updated, upgraded, and now the newest kernel fails to boot, how do i remove it and retry?
[13:32] <kress> hi, trying to start spotify installer through wine but it wont start, says the file is not executable and not safe
[13:32] <kress> I did what was said in the guide , and not working
[13:32] <dkannan> phr3d13: check /etc/apt/sources.d/
[13:32] <dkannan> phr3d13: check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[13:33] <dkannan> phr3d13: comment the less u want and can add packages there as well
[13:34] <dkannan> hi. i am trying to install https://launchpad.net/~freyes/+archive/mysql-5.1 on 12.04 server
[13:34] <dkannan> i could add the ppa and udpate the server
[13:34] <dkannan> but install throws an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1425286/
[13:35] <b14d3> ;window 1
[13:36] <b14d3> My bad, mistyped a command
[13:40] <renalio> всем привет
[13:40] <DJones> !ru | renalio
[13:41] <renalio> ))
[13:41] <renalio> всем хай
[13:44] <helpcrypto> Hello
[13:44] <helpcrypto> is there any "extension" which gets +x permission when downloaded from URL, to let the user execute it without having to chmod???
[13:44] <kshakir> xchat.emit_print("Channel Message", "John", "Hi there", "@")
[13:48] <dcherniv_> helpcrypto, sounds like a good way to shoot yourself in the foot
[13:48] <helpcrypto> ...some people at #linux suggested a tar with a +x file inside, which the user could run
[13:51] <shady__> yo
[13:52] <riegersn> chromium no longer asks for web app integration and OLD facebook & gmail from firefox is stuck in the status menu. how do I fix this mess?
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> kress  try #winehq
[13:57] <kress> yea I got it working
[13:58] <kress> turned out I had to start through another icon heh
[13:58] <helpcrypto> ill ask again before logging out
[13:59] <helpcrypto> is there any "extension" which gets +x permission when downloaded from URL, to let the user execute it without having to chmod???
[13:59] <jrib> helpcrypto: maybe you should say what your actual goal is.  Why do you want to do this?
[13:59] <TheLordOfTime> i agree with jrib
[13:59] <helpcrypto> some users which use linux need a program to be executed
[14:00] <kress> wondering if anyone got a ati radeon hd 6370m and got it working properly in Ubuntu?
[14:00] <helpcrypto> so they download the program(script) from our URL
[14:00] <helpcrypto> they even dont know how to set permissions
[14:00] <helpcrypto> thats why im asking
[14:00] <jrib> helpcrypto: why don't you setup a ppa and package your program?  Then they would just install the program
[14:01] <helpcrypto> cause its not a program to be installed
[14:01] <helpcrypto> its just something they have to execute
[14:02] <TheLordOfTime> helpcrypto, that sounds like a "program"
[14:02] <helpcrypto> script
[14:02] <TheLordOfTime> anything that executes can technically be a program (scripts can technically be programs too)
[14:02] <jrib> helpcrypto: what does the script do?  It's something you expect them to only run once?
[14:03] <helpcrypto> jrib: yes
[14:03] <jrib> helpcrypto: what does the script do?
[14:03] <helpcrypto> request permissions and run a connection to our server
[14:04] <helpcrypto> some people suggested zip containing a +x file
[14:04] <helpcrypto> the users should download, dbl click and run
[14:04] <helpcrypto> any better options?
[14:05] <TheLordOfTime> helpcrypto, write better instructions to tell them how to chmod it?
[14:05] <helpcrypto> TheLordOfTime: already know that
[14:06] <TheLordOfTime> helpcrypto, that's the easiest solution, creating a ZIP that retains permissoins isnt really easy.  nor is just providing a ZIP to users wihotu explaining how to unzip iut
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> helpcrypto  maybe the people in #bash can help, try there
[14:06] <helpcrypto> thx MonkeyDust
[14:07] <helpcrypto> TheLordOfTime: usually a dbl click works to unzip
[14:07] <helpcrypto> thank u all for the info and help!
[14:07] <sebastian__> hi anyone knows an extreamly simple server management tool? something like a script on each server, that tells it's ip address and other infos to a master server?
[14:07] <TheLordOfTime> helpcrypto, 'usually' ~= all-the-time
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> sebastian__  try #ubuntu-server
[14:08] <sebastian__> MonkeyDust: ty
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:11] <ucefkh> ho
[14:17] <prashant_123456> how to make a script for three commands and want to wait for first command  ????
[14:19] <auronandace> prashant_123456: i suppose sleep would be the first command (depending how long you want to wait) more help in #bash
[14:19] <iceroot> prashant_123456: that is the default in a script when you use more then one command that it will wait that the first one will finsh
[14:20] <prashant_123456> ok iceroot  you mean to say that after finishing the process of first command the second command will execute
[14:22] <iceroot> prashant_123456: correct
[14:22] <iceroot> prashant_123456: command1; command2; command3
[14:23] <iceroot> prashant_123456: command2 will only start when command1 is finished
[14:23] <prashant_123456> thanks iceroot thanks
[14:23] <iceroot> prashant_123456: command1 && command2   command2 will only start when command1 was successful
[14:23] <prashant_123456> ok iceroot
[14:23] <iceroot> prashant_123456: command1 & command2   both with start directly
[14:23] <b14d3> Two &
[14:23] <iceroot> b14d3: no
[14:24] <b14d3> Oh, sorry, misread the last part of what you said
[14:24] <iceroot> b14d3: np
[14:25] <prashant_123456> thanks verymuch iceroot
[14:26] <g-hennux> hi!
[14:38] <prashant_123456> iceroot, command not found error ?
[14:38] <LeigoemUbuntu> By chance is there any tools Linux environment to install ubuntu software like an installation *. Exe in windows?
[14:38] <sunjan> can anyone tell me please the default ftp login ?
[14:39] <prashant_123456> iceroot, ok got it how to solve the problem
[14:39] <prashant_123456> iceroot, thanks
[14:40] <Maisondouf> join #ubuntu-fr-l10n
[14:43] <hari__> will anybody help me an application suitable for editing photos, like photoshop in windows
[14:43] <b14d3> hari__: The most common one I hear of is Gimp.
[14:43] <tqrst> does precise pangolin use something other than gdm now? pgrep gdm shows nothing, but I am still getting X with the login screen on boot
[14:44] <tqrst> there's no gdm.conf in /etc either
[14:44] <Maisondouf> it's lightdm perhaps
[14:44] <tqrst> ah yes, lightdm - thanks Maisondouf
[14:45] <wilfred> What kind of ruckus is it to change the computer name
[14:45] <Maisondouf> you can edit /etc/hostname in sudo mode
[14:46] <Maisondouf> an reboot
[14:46] <attila_> Hi guy! what's weather like in uk?
[14:46] <wilfred> Maisondouf, Ahh.  No ruckus at all
[14:47] <Maisondouf> Near Bordeaux in France 3°C (38°F) and lot of SUUUUUNNNN
[14:47] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:47] <attila_> a bit cold
[14:49] <leo2007> what are the effective way to manage configuration of servers?
[14:49] <leo2007> s/are/is/
[14:50] <attila_> Maisondouf what"s your favourite wine?
[14:50] <Maisondouf> most used is Webmin
[14:51] <Maisondouf> @attila: you will laugh, I don't drink wine
[14:51] <attila_> why? I thing It's ok.
[14:52] <attila_> See you latter. I watch Doctor's Diary.
[14:54] <testlab> I have a question!! ..with the following command: "nc -l -p 4000 | while read var" I store into var a number, sent by a tcp channel.  How can I send back var+1 into the same channel?
[14:55] <ces_> does anyone know where the command line programs are put after they are downloaded in the software center in 12.10
[14:55] <jrib> ces_: various places.  Why do you want to know?
[14:56] <fishcooker> is it true that after installing windows 8 .. we can't installing ubuntu 12.04?
[14:57] <pgib> ces_, what do you mean?
[15:07] <Fieldy> hello, what's the proper way to have an iptables command executed on boot after the network interface(s) are up and after the rest of the rules have already gone up?
[15:08] <Cottus> Fieldy: i don't know, look at /etc/rc.local
[15:09] <Fieldy> Cottus: thanks
[15:09] <clj_newb_2345> hey, can someone point me at documentation on how to get horizontal scrolling to work on ubuntu 12.10 server?
[15:11] <locojay> hi i have some strange question mark symbols in terminal and vim
[15:12] <_dst> I've attempted to boot off of three separate boot media to install Ubuntu but on each occasion my machine hard locks after I select 'Install Ubuntu' from the grub command line.
[15:13] <_dst> I suspect this is due to some hardware incompatibility
[15:13] <_dst> What are some safe boot params to pass to grub?
[15:13] <Jef91> Is there a place I can find package source code for ports.ubuntu.com packages?
[15:15] <locojay> no issues with terminator
[15:17] <Cottus> clj_newb_2345: is it about a synaptic?
[15:18] <clj_newb_2345> Cottus: figured it out :-)
[15:18] <Cottus> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
[15:18] <clj_newb_2345> Cottus: basically, there's some gui checkbox, and I didn't ahve to go edit an xorg.conf file
[15:18] <Cottus> oh ok
[15:21] <pestilence> does anybody use rhythmbox to play .m3u's?  when i load up an m3u that I downloaded from the internet, it shows up as blank in the player
[15:21] <rduplain> anyone have an answer to http://askubuntu.com/questions/226227/how-to-manually-restart-services-affected-by-apt-upgrades ?
[15:22] <pestilence> this is the m3u:  http://archive.org/download/gd71-12-10.sbd.yerys.1311.sbeok.shnf/gd71-12-10.sbd.yerys.1311.sbeok.shnf_vbr.m3u
[15:22] <monz> iceroot : you there man?
[15:24] <pestilence> oh well.  i'll just download the files.
[15:25] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:26] <KI4RO> !netsplit
[15:31] <wilfred> My keyboard layout is wonky.  I can log in, so the window manager must not have kicked in yet.  How can I reset/redetect the keyboard layout?
[15:31] <jrib> wilfred: wonky in what way?
[15:32] <wilfred> jrib, i is 5, o is 6.  I don't know what all the keys are doing, those ar ejust the ones I have run into so far.
[15:32] <MaynardWaters> hello I am having continued problems with my raid 5 array http://pastebin.com/J2yy7cT5
[15:33] <MaynardWaters> I have 5 devices 4 have consistent superblocks, and the 5th does not
[15:33] <pettersoft> Hello
[15:33] <jrib> wilfred: if you hit ctrl-alt-f1 and log in there, is evyrithng ok?
[15:34] <MaynardWaters> I have goten errors saying the bitmap files are corrupt on each device
[15:34] <wilfred> jrib, no.  Just as messed up, except I don't see the bad characters, just nothing
[15:35] <helmut_> hi
[15:35] <jrib> wilfred: did this just start happening randomly?  Or is this a fresh install?
[15:35] <ejv> MaynardWaters: where does it say that?
[15:36] <wilfred> jrib, this was a fairly fresh install.  I believe the trouble started when I copied over .config/xfce4 from another box (so I wouldn't have to recreate my panels and launchers).  This is a Dell laptop; the other is an acer
[15:37] <ucefkh> shutdown -r now
[15:37] <MaynardWaters> ejv:  mdadm --examine-bitmap /dev/sd[acdef]1 reports the bad bitmaps
[15:42] <ayuba> has joining
[15:43] <ejv> MaynardWaters: it won't let you force assembly anyways?
[15:43] <ayuba> hi everyone
[15:43] <ayuba> needs help
[15:43] <_dst> How does anyone carry a conversation in this channel with so many joins and parts?
[15:43] <ayuba> hahha
[15:45] <MaynardWaters> ejv when i tried that i got the pastebin you looked at and all of the devices became spares
[15:45] <wilfred> jrib, all set.  I just copied it over again from the laptop I'm on right now (duh -- it's the same model #)
[15:45] <ejv> _dst: by setting your client to ignore joins, parts, and quits silly
[15:46] <MaynardWaters> ejv: currently cat /proc/mdstat
[15:46] <MaynardWaters> Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
[15:46] <MaynardWaters> unused devices: <none>
[15:46] <kshakir> l
[15:47] <ejv> MaynardWaters: are you using an external bitmap? did you suffer some sort of power event that corrupted that bitmap?
[15:48] <MaynardWaters> ejv no external bitmap, yes hard power down after entire machine hung for hours
[15:49] <cgtdk> Is the aptitude multiarch issue solved?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> !aptitude
[15:49] <BluesKaj> cgtdk, I guess not
[15:49] <cgtdk> :(
[15:50] <cgtdk> It says “fix released”
[15:51] <binaryhat>  im trying to remove virbr0.  i dont need it plus its flooding dmesg--->http://fpaste.org/7kZO/
[15:51] <ejv> MaynardWaters: i'd email the linux raid list, and ask there, in the mean time I would image all the disks using 'dd' just in case
[15:52] <Pici> cgtdk: Its fixed in 13.04, which isn't released yet. Its not fixed in either 12.04 or 12.10.
[15:52] <cgtdk> Pici: ah, okay. Thanks for the info
[15:52] <MaynardWaters> ejv thanks for the advice
[15:53] <ejv> MaynardWaters: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-raid , click subscribe , it's a very active group, they will know what to do
[15:54] <ejv> MaynardWaters: after you subscribe, and you get processed, you can email the list, be detailed and thorough, everything from mdadm version, ubuntu version, everything :)
[15:55] <kshakir> 1
[15:56] <hilo> Does anyone know of anything like cacheFS? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CacheFS) I am looking for a solution to cache an NFS share at a remote location so users at a branch office don't have to redownload the same files every read.
[15:58] <ejv> sounds like a job rsync could handle
[16:01] <Touhou11> Linux kernel lists can be "icy" to Ubuntu users in my experience... just be warned
[16:02] <ejv> if you're polite, detailed, spell-check, and don't top-post, he'll be fine
[16:05] <hilo> ejv, I use rsync for sync jobs but what I need here is a cache not a sync. I don't want to copy all the data, but files that are accessed at 9am tend to get accessed all day as the team works on them. I need a cache.
[16:05] <chris__> ls
[16:05] <Wiz_KeeD> is this even a valid command?
[16:05] <Wiz_KeeD> find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[16:06] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: yes.
[16:06] <Wiz_KeeD> i get chmod: missing operand after `644./skin/frontend/default/blank/images/catalog/product/placeholder/small_image.jpg'
[16:07] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[16:07] <Cottus> too close "4 ."
[16:07] <Wiz_KeeD> sorry
[16:07] <Cottus> np
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> what does that mean?
[16:08] <oconnore> how do I get rid of all the file icons shown on my desktop? I can't find the setting for this anywhere.
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> i mean i don't get it
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> that's the error
[16:08] <oconnore> I googled for it, and it says to use "gconf-editor", but I don't have g
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> the command i run is the one i pasted :-s
[16:08] <oconnore> conf editor
[16:08] <hilo> Wiz_KeeD, put the exec in quotes
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> why didn't the tutorial say that dammit :))
[16:09] <Cottus> !gconf-editor >Cottus
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> can you show me what to put in quotes gilo?
[16:09] <Cottus> oconnore: you can install it from synaptic
[16:10] <Wiz_KeeD> help? :-s
[16:10] <oconnore> Cottus: so it's not even possible in a default ubuntu install?
[16:11] <hilo> Wiz_KeeD, hold on testing in terminal before I tell you to try
[16:11] <Cottus> -exec "chmod 644"
[16:11] <Cottus> oconnore: maybe
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> i tried that Cottus didn't work :))
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> pfff
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> now it suddenly worked :\
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[16:12] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: I think the command you tried originally had a typo
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> afuq
[16:13] <hilo> find . -type f -exec "chmod 644 {} \;
[16:13] <hilo> Wiz_KeeD, that works as is
[16:13] <Wiz_KeeD> maybe because i copy-pasted it from the tutorial like a shmuck and it might have had some hidden characters?
[16:13] <Pici> hilo: you need another quote.
[16:13] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: possibly.
[16:13] <hilo> woops
[16:13] <hilo> lol
[16:13] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: the only quote you might need is  '{}'
[16:13] <hilo> Wiz_KeeD, find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[16:14] <hilo> Wiz_KeeD, it works like that
[16:14] <hilo> Wiz_KeeD, Your original command looks like there was a missing whitespace between the 644 and {}
[16:14] <Wiz_KeeD> then maybe that
[16:14] <hilo> Wiz_KeeD, I reproduced your error that way
[16:14] <Wiz_KeeD> haha :)) nice
[16:14] <Wiz_KeeD> could someone bother explaining what it actually does?
[16:15] <Wiz_KeeD> all i can tell is it finds any file type and executed chmod 644 on it
[16:15] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: it runs chmod 644 on every file under .
[16:15] <Wiz_KeeD> what does {} \ mean
[16:15] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: why do you blindly run command without even knowing what they do?
[16:15] <Wiz_KeeD> i got it from a tutorial llutz
[16:15] <hilo> Wiz_KeeD, find all files in the current directory that are files (not dirs) and executes chmod 644
[16:15] <oconnore> hmm, gconf editor doesn't have the settings that i saw in google. next google page... use "dconf-editor"
[16:15] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: {} changes into the filename \; ends the -exec command.
[16:15] <hilo> Wiz_KeeD, The {} \; is a regular expression qwhich is the filename
[16:15] <ejv> it's generally a bad idea to randomly paste commands you don't understand into your terminal... food for thought.
[16:16] <Pici> hilo: its not a regex.
[16:16] <Cottus> oconnore: maybe by adding it it shall work
[16:16] <rduplain> +1 to ejv
[16:16] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: that's no reason to execute commands
[16:16] <hilo> Wiz_KeeD, ignore me :)
[16:16] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: its all explained in the manpage for find.
[16:16] <oconnore> I tried unselecting "home-icon-visible", and "volumes-visible" in org/gnome/desktop/nautilus/desktop
[16:16] <oconnore> Cottus: what is the difference between gconf and dconf?
[16:17] <hilo> Pici, I don't know how do formulate them, but they usually look like that and do amazing things for me :)
[16:17] <ejv> example, what if that blog were malicious, and instead of . it expanded to / and instead of 644, it set 777. that could be bad for you and your security.
[16:17] <Pici> ejv: it would require a reinstall too
[16:17] <Cottus> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91403/when-to-use-gconf-vs-dconf#91409
[16:17] <ejv> indeed
[16:18] <Cottus> dconf seems to gradually replace gconf
[16:19] <Cottus> i don't actually know
[16:19] <datruth> Whats the best way to encrypt an entire usb external disk
[16:20] <nemo> Regarding the Shopping Lens.  Is the connection to the Ubuntu server encrypted to avoid leakage over insecure networks?
[16:22] <BullDog> hello!
[16:22] <Cottus> !hello
[16:22] <BullDog> i need some help
[16:22] <b14d3> !ask | BullDog
[16:23] <BullDog> i install bind9 and my server is under a wireless router...i put my local ip in DMZ everything is good when i enter http://ip
[16:23] <BullDog> now i want to config bind9 how i config it
[16:23] <BullDog> whit local ip or dynamic ip from router?
[16:24] <hari_> hallo,  i am not able to connect zmovies.net ?
[16:24] <VictorCL> hi
[16:24] <VictorCL> how can I make vim show the line number I am at ??
[16:25] <BullDog> if im under a rooter how i config my bind9 whit local ip or dynamic ip?
[16:25] <BullDog> router*
[16:25] <Pici> hari_: And why is that an Ubuntu problem?
[16:26] <hari_> yes. ok i will take up with the concerned browser
[16:26] <hari_> what about advanced photo editor?
[16:26] <Pici> hari_: the gimp is fairly popular.
[16:26] <hari_> i it is not upto photoshop
[16:27] <Pici> hari_: I'm sorry, I didn't understand that last line.
[16:28] <BluesKaj> hari ,the gimp is also free , photoshop isn't a fair comparison
[16:29] <srhb> Pici: He means to say Gimp is not as good as Photoshop. :)
[16:29] <srhb> BluesKaj: Er, right, and that is why Linux sucks. :P
[16:29] <bobweaver> then install photoshop via wine
[16:30] <bazhang> !info shotwell | hari_
[16:30] <lucido> whats wrong with the weather indicator, I cant set a location, clicking apply does nothing
[16:30] <hari_> thru wine is it possible operate the programs in windows?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> srhb, do you have a question , or are you here just to troll ?
[16:31] <bobweaver> hari_,  you can use play on linux if you are new to wine. there is also virtual systems if you have the ram and cpu for it
[16:31] <OerHeks> !darktable
[16:31] <hari_> virtual system?
[16:31] <OerHeks> !info darktable
[16:32] <BullDog> if im under a router how i config my bind9 whit local ip or dynamic ip
[16:32] <bobweaver> !info virtualbox | hari_   this is the package
[16:32] <bobweaver> hari_,  what window's programs do you like to use ?
[16:33] <hari_> windows 7 i'm using; for eg. sql server based software
[16:34] <bobweaver> hari_,  you might like mono developer
[16:34] <bobweaver> there is no design tb though like in visual s
[16:34] <hari_> it is an astrology software based on sql server 2005 service pack 1 windows
[16:35] <bobweaver> hari_,  name os app ?
[16:35] <Pici> !appdb
[16:36] <riegersn> chromium not asking to integrate webapp for facebook.com - checked dconf-editor, its not in the list of allowed domains or dontask-domains. what should i do?
[16:36] <bazhang> hari_, what is the exact name of that astrology software
[16:36] <bobweaver> there is none it is troll
[16:36] <BluesKaj> lucido, you may have to choose a weather report site in settings
[16:36] <bobweaver> lots today hezz
[16:36] <jn_> Anyone know if Thunderbird implement it's own MTA ?
[16:37] <Marduk||> i recenntly installed OpenELEC alongside of Ubuntu 12.04.1 and followed http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Config_dualboot -- however, now i dont get a grub loader, the system boots directly into OpenELEC.. how do i get the grub menu back?
[16:37] <bazhang> Marduk||, hold shift at boot
[16:38] <Marduk||> alright, thx
[16:38] <hari_> prophet
[16:38] <lucido> BluesKaj, , I chose yahoo and it list my location but when I click apply nothing happens
[16:38] <jn_> Or perhaps, can I somehow see what MTA thunderbird uses ?
[16:38] <bazhang> hari_, the software name is "prophet" ?
[16:39] <wdnz> evening. I have a problem with my mail server that I configured. I can send and receive mails just fine from hotmail, gmail or yahoo accounts, even from stumble and other such networks.. But not from facebook or twitter.... Is that a problem on my side?
[16:39] <hari_> the astrology software is "PROPHET" which is running via. sql server 2005 and crystal reports
[16:39] <hari_> bazhang : yes
[16:40] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org   <---- hari check there
[16:40] <bobweaver> it is there
[16:40] <BluesKaj> lucido, do you have other optional weather providers?
[16:40] <hari_> i couldn't get it from that site
[16:40] <wdnz> Anyone ?
[16:40] <Marduk||> bazhang: afraid that didnt help it
[16:41] <Mohawk> Hello, I need some help with Ubuntu. I cannot istall Wine Windows application runner. I  followed all the instructions on it, and when I went to type 'sudo apt-get install wine1.4' it did not work. This is the error that came up and i am running ubuntu 12.10 http://pastie.org/5511836
[16:42] <lucido> BluesKaj, google same result
[16:42] <Mohawk> I was wondering if it is an ubuntu problem or a wine problem
[16:42] <lucido> how can I install a weather applet?
[16:43] <bobweaver> !info playonlinux | Mohawk
[16:43] <wdnz> HMm! It seems to have fixed itself. Maybe some dns issues. Thanks anyway
[16:43] <bobweaver> you might like that
[16:45] <fzeete> is there a way to see what is going on with the graphical installer for ubuntu?
[16:45] <saliak> I have a windows xp vm i run in vmware fusion and I want to transition it to run on my headless ubuntu server.  what version of the vmware offerings should i use?
[16:45] <saliak> vmware server seems to have gone EOL
[16:45] <fzeete> It seems to be stuck at "copying installation logs" but I suspect it is downloading packages
[16:45] <fzeete> is there a file to tail or a process I can run to see the actual progress?
[16:45] <amarillo> Hi all, I'm having problems to install ubuntu dual boot with windows 8 on my new sony vaio s series laptop. I followed this instruction http://www.hackourlife.com/sony-vaio-with-insyde-h2o-efi-bios-ubuntu-12-04-dual-boot/ but grub isn't loaded (and windows neither)
[16:46] <hari_> OH, SIR.  I AM CLOSING MY QUESTION ON WINE.
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> saliak  try ##vmware
[16:46] <hari_> I QUIT
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> caps
[16:47] <BluesKaj> jn_, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/thunderbird-mta-mda-maildir-340396/
[16:47] <sharperguy> can anyone think why i cant play audio with both jack and wine at the same time, when both are set to use ALSA? This is in KDE4
[16:47] <Ankit> hey, need help with installing skype on ubuntu 12.10 ... does it work ?
[16:47] <amarillo> when i don't overwrite Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi then windows gets started imidiatly
[16:47] <saliak> MonkeyDust: ah, thanks. didn't realize it existed
[16:48] <datruth> Anyone use virtualbox on an encrypted drive?
[16:49] <kshakir> v
[16:49] <TopCat123456> v
[16:50] <leonard> hi guys i recently started using ubuntu via a remote connection (NX) but i have one very big problem (at least it feels big) I want my windows to snap to the edge of screen  but i guess because of nx which doesnt want effects its disaabled ... how can i get windows snapping enabled without glx?
[16:50] <TheMan1011> v
[16:51] <bobweaver> leonard,  what version of Ubuntu ?
[16:51] <leonard> 12.04
[16:51] <bobweaver> use 2d \
[16:51] <Pelo> afternoon folks,  I have my brother on the phone, He's having  trouble connecting his tablet to his new ubuntu comp 12.04,  does he need a library to do this ?
[16:51] <leonard> i do i think
[16:51] <leonard> but no snapping
[16:52] <fzeete> how can I see what is actually going on with the ubuntu graphical installer? It is "stuck" at copying installation logs
[16:52] <fungoat> Anybody else having trouble installing the ttf-mscorefonts package?
[16:52] <llutz> Pelo: an android-4.x tablet? he might need mtp-support
[16:52] <bobweaver> leonard,  open terminal and type in    unity-2d-shell    if it is running it will not run (can not have 2 running at once) if it launchs then you acn kill it at terminal with ctrl+shift+tab
[16:52] <kshakir> kemal
[16:53] <Pelo> llutz, yes,  aconia 100,  android 4 , is it just a package or more then one ?
[16:53] <bobweaver> fungoat,  ubuntu-resricted-extra's is not installing ?
[16:53] <Marduk||> grub doesnt seem to detect my Ubuntu 12.04.1 install after installing OpenELEC (boots directly into OE now)
[16:53] <leonard> another instance already runnning
[16:53] <leonard> bobweaver:
[16:54] <bobweaver> leonard,  then it is running.  is unity-2d-spread running ?
[16:54] <kshakir> hi englishman11
[16:54] <llutz> Pelo: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access
[16:54] <kshakir> hi rage7
[16:54] <kshakir> hi segv
[16:54] <Pelo> thanks llutz
[16:54] <bobweaver> you can chroot a droid and then VNC into it
[16:54] <kshakir> hi tankdriver
[16:55] <DJones> kshakir: Are you a bot? No need to say Hi to everybody that joins
[16:55] <kshakir> NO I am not :D
[16:55] <rage7> hello
[16:55] <kshakir> hi rauhfasertapete
[16:55] <bobweaver> aremel img are out there for chrooting then installing to that then vnc into phone
[16:55] <bazhang> kshakir, stop that
[16:55] <kshakir> hi BullDog
[16:55] <leonard> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/efVMPHHq
[16:55] <fzeete> no one knows where the ubuntu installer logs its progress?!
[16:56] <bazhang> fzeete, ubiquity?
[16:56] <bobweaver> leonard,  presss ctrl+super+up
[16:56] <englishman11> I have a problem: I installed Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) from which I updated using the update-manager to 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal). Now I want to configure uswsusp to do s2ram for suspend and s2disk for hibernate if I close the lid of my MacBook Pro (7,1). Any help appreciated.
[16:56] <OerHeks> fzeete, After installation, the log is copied to /var/log/installer/syslog
[16:57] <bobweaver> leonard,  window max ?
[16:57] <fzeete> bazhang: sorry, what, where? I just want to see if the installer is stuck or not, the progress bar is stuck on copying installation logs
[16:57] <BullDog> i need to config my bind9...im under router and i have local ip adress...and router have dinamic ip
[16:57] <BullDog> some help?
[16:57] <fzeete> OerHeks: I need to tail the progress while it is installing
[16:57] <BullDog> i config bind9 whit local ip or dynamic ip
[16:58] <OerHeks> fzeete, during install, it would be /var/log/syslog
[16:58] <leonard> bobweaver: Not maximazing but since i am remote i cannot tell if the windowsbutton gets forwarded or if the host catches it
[16:58] <kshakir> hi tripleXXX
[16:58] <kshakir> hi root__
[16:58] <kshakir> hi mib_mib
[16:58] <kshakir> sorry boys
[16:59] <bobweaver> leonard,  of that is right. Have you tried to install dconf-tools and then look in there to change options ?
[16:59] <FloodBot1> kshakir: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <kshakir> I am trying to stop that
[16:59] <fzeete> OerHeks: it says ubuntu-finish install even though the graphical installer is stil up and running, is it safe to assume that it has actually finished?
[16:59] <bobweaver> s|of | oh
[16:59] <kshakir> ok
[16:59] <kshakir> hi talas
[16:59] <mib_mib> guys, i'm specifying my public key to use when i ssh using the -i option, but when i ssh -v (verbose), it says its trying the wrong key - why is this?
[16:59] <DJones> kshakir: Please turn the script off
[16:59] <amarillo> any advice regarding my dual boot problem with UEFI bios?
[16:59] <kshakir> I am trying
[16:59] <kshakir> i am quit
[16:59] <kshakir> by
[16:59] <kshakir> hi m8
[16:59] <kshakir> hi NiteRain
[16:59] <FloodBot1> kshakir: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <OerHeks> fzeete, if there is no HDD led activity, and your numlock does not respond, then there might be a problem.
[17:00] <OerHeks> wait a few minutes.
[17:00] <fzeete> OerHeks: no, I'm writing on this machine aws
[17:00] <englishman11> Bump.
[17:01] <OerHeks> fzeete, no responce numlock ?
[17:01] <leonard> bobweaver: installed dconf-tools ... but no such programm which one do i need to start dconf-editor?
[17:01] <fzeete> OerHeks: I'm suspecting that it is still downloading packages, is there any way to confirm this?
[17:01] <llutz> mib_mib: -i specifies the private-key, not the public
[17:01] <fzeete> OerHeks: yes num lock is working
[17:01] <bobweaver> leonard,  yeah
[17:02] <bobweaver> leonard,  look around com.canonical.unity-2d
[17:02] <OerHeks> fzeete, ah, ic, you are in live mode, and started the installer from there. did the last message say you can reboot?
[17:03] <fzeete> OerHeks: the last message in syslog is 'ubuntu finish-install: Disabling CD in sources.list', the graphical installer is still at 'Copying installation logs' and it has been sitting there for about 30 minutes
[17:03] <englishman11> I tried adding in a module file to /etc/pm/config.d as google told me, but no cigar.
[17:03] <bobweaver> leonard,  isent that stupid that it is called dconf-tools to install but after install it is dconf-editior (I mean why no just call it one things one can not just install dconf-editor)
[17:04] <mib_mib> llutz: i have my private key on my computer, and the public keys on the other machine right
[17:04] <llutz> mib_mib: you should, yes
[17:04] <leonard> bobweaver:  yes it is
[17:04] <mib_mib> llutz: so why does it say offering public key: /home/me/.ssh/id_rsa
[17:05] <leonard> bobweaver: I found it ... but guess what "sticky edges" True
[17:05] <OerHeks> fzeete, it propebly hang then. you might want to take the risc and stop the installer, and see if it boots.
[17:05] <bobweaver> leonard,  also you have installed guest additions ? also ccsm
[17:05] <bobweaver> though unity2d uses v.little compiz as it sits on metacity
[17:06] <fzeete> OerHeks: I will do that, if it fails I'll just omit the download packages while installing option. It seems like it might be the cause according to mr.google. Thanks :)
[17:06] <bobweaver> but there is snapping edges clicked under ccsm leonard
[17:06] <leonard> what is guest additions?
[17:06] <bobweaver> leonard,  you have to click on machine-->install guest add.....
[17:06] <bobweaver> on the vbox leonard  *
[17:07] <leonard> not using vbox
[17:07] <leonard> i use nx
[17:07] <t432> how do i add user to group? sudo usermod -a -G tomcat7 username
[17:07] <leonard> also known as no machine
[17:07] <t432> above does not seem to work
[17:07] <bobweaver> oh that is right check ccsm  leonard
[17:07] <t432> command id, returns no "tomcat7"
[17:07] <leonard> t432: addgroup user group
[17:08] <t432> leonard: does it apply to existing group?
[17:08] <t432> group already exists
[17:08] <leonard> "man addgroup"
[17:10] <srhb> Anyone got hints on notetaking on configuration? I always end up modifying a lot of global configuration, but noting it down is often sporadic at best. Is there a better way? Like, say, wrapping some diff tool around an editor, making sure that every change is logged?
[17:12] <leonard> srhb: you might be able to use audit
[17:13] <leonard> never used it but it basicly does what you want
[17:13] <srhb> Oh. Google gives me auditd, is that it?
[17:13] <leonard> i guess so
[17:13] <srhb> Thanks, I'll have a look. :)
[17:15] <bobweaver> how do I start weston ?  I tried  weston --height=1200 --width=1200    and I get error "weston: symbol lookup error: weston: undefined symbol: wl_input_device_interface
[17:15] <bobweaver> "
[17:15] <Xhp> em nm
[17:17] <cnz> how can I jut upgrade my kernel in 12.04 from 3.2.* to 3.5.*
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> cnz  guess you'll need a ppa for 12.04, but then it's no longer supported here and you're on your own if something goes wrong
[17:18] <cnz> MonkeyDust, that's fine
[17:18] <cnz> do you k now a ppa for a 3.5 kernel for 12.04?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> cnz  http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/07/install-linux-kernel-35-from-ppa-on.html
[17:19] <cnz> MonkeyDust, thanks
[17:20] <BullDog> I'm under a router...how i need to config my Bind server whit local ip or dynamic ip (router ip).
[17:22] <pamm> ciao
[17:22] <BullDog> I'm under a router...how i need to config my Bind server whit local ip or dynamic ip (router ip).
[17:24] <scasino> scasino.com - additional 25 Euro Free on 50+ Euro first deposit
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[17:24] <jrib> cnz: there are a couple of 3.5 versions in precise-updates
[17:26] <linda> I need help with something. I have 12.04 installed on my system, and having a hard time getting Picasa to send out emails through
[17:26] <linda> Thunderbird
[17:26] <jrib> cnz: for example, you could install "linux-image-generic-lts-quantal"
[17:26] <fungoat> bobweaver: The installer (ttf-mscorefonts-installer) appears to be part of the package, but not the fonts themselves. I installed the installer independently and with ubuntu-restricted-extras yet the fonts are nowhere to be found.
[17:27] <cnz> jrib, what would your recommand on updating from 3.2 to 3.5
[17:27] <linda> I tried the script from this page http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mailing-photos-from-picasa-3-in-thunderbird-3.html but don't know if I'm putting it in the correct spot
[17:27] <jrib> cnz: installing the "linux-image-generic-lts-quantal" package should pull in the 3.5 kernels
[17:27] <bobweaver> fungoat,  you where asked well installing resricked extras about tff license ?
[17:28] <cnz> jrib, thanks
[17:28] <Ankit> anyone ? how do i install skype on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[17:29] <jrib> !skype | Ankit
[17:29] <bobweaver> Ankit,  you have tried the software center ?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Ankit: go to the skype website, grab the deb and install it
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Ankit: what is the output of:  uname -a
[17:29] <Ankit> ActionParsnip: thats for 12.04 .. not for 12.10
[17:29] <cnz> is it possible to image a linux install
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Ankit: its the same
[17:29] <cnz> like you can with windows
[17:30] <bobweaver> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer | fungoat,  you have this package installed ?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Ankit: there is only ONE skype client, so the release is irrelevant
[17:30] <samd> !Ekiga
[17:30] <bobweaver> !googlevoice
[17:31] <bobweaver> :)
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> cnz: sure, you can boot to liveCD and use dd or even an app like clonezilla
[17:31] <linda> ActionParsnip: have you seen the problem I posted? I know you helped me out a while back, and were very knowledgeable
[17:31] <abyss4> How to see the r+w permissions of a user in linux
[17:31] <cnz> clonezilla supports linux?
[17:31] <abyss4> ?
[17:31] <Ankit> ActionParsnip: lemme try from the skype website first
[17:31] <softcoder> hi, using 12.10 64 bit and have a question
[17:31] <jrib> !permissions | abyss4
[17:31] <bobweaver> abyss4,   ls -al
[17:31] <Bandido> The monitor of my laptop keeps flikering after i suspended or dimmed, no matter how many Linux distributions I try. I have a Samsung R540 and grafic card is Mobility Radeon 5470 - 512Mb. Does anyone has the same problem?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> linda: I don't use either app, sorry
[17:31] <fungoat> bobweaver: Yes. Is there a secondary step?
[17:31] <linda> ActionParsnip: Ok, thank you
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Ankit: if you can give the output of the command I gave, I can give the full command you need..
[17:32] <softcoder> i've got a KVM that uses numlock twice to swap between computers.. how can i tell ubuntu to pass those keys to the kvm as its noit working now in 12.10
[17:32] <bobweaver> fungoat,  not that I know of. But when I installed play on linux ad it needed that it asked if I wanted to install the fonts. not sure what you are trying to do ?
[17:32] <softcoder> its unity or X i think intercepting
[17:32] <softcoder> alt-f1 console works with numokc + numlock
[17:33] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: Linux Samragi 3.5.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 13 17:49:53 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:33] <Bandido> The monitor of my laptop keeps flikering after I suspended the computer or dimme the monitor, no matter how many Linux distributions I try. I have a Samsung R540 and grafic card is Mobility Radeon 5470 - 512Mb. Does anyone has the same problem?
[17:34] <fungoat> bobweaver: Just trying to install the fonts, mostly for web work. They're still the cornerstone of web typography...
[17:34] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: you there sir ?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Ankit: wget -O ~/skype.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-32; sudo dpkg -i ~/skype.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:34] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: thanks
[17:34] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip:  lemme try this
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: I'm not that fast, patience
[17:35] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: so i type this in full at the terminal ?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: copy it as one command to the terminal and it will install
[17:35] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip:  installing now ... lets see
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: 32bit OS (which you have) makes this a lot less painful
[17:35] <bobweaver> fungoat,  there is any-other fonts that you need besides TrueType ?  I dont know that much about fonts tbh
[17:36] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: i could foresee that ... got this 32 deliberately
[17:36] <fungoat> bobweaver:  Not at the moment. Why do you ask?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: it does have advantages :)
[17:37] <bobweaver> fungoat,  because that is the only truetype thingy that I can find in apt
[17:37] <bobweaver> fungoat,  not sure how to test though , maybe you could share with me if you know ?
[17:38] <wilfrid> I've got an okidata mb471 that Okidata told me would work fine in Linux.  Printing, yes.  Scanning, not so much.  Anyone gotten one of these to scan over a network?  Is it even their hardware, or someone else's with the Okidata name stamped on it?
[17:38] <fungoat> bobweaver: Let me explore some options. If I find something I'll check back in here. Thanks for the assistance.
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: if you use 64bit, simply change the wget command, but the apt-get -f command will pull in a tonne of 32bit deps as the app is only 32bit, but the OS is multiarch so you will need ALL the 32bit packages to make it work
[17:38] <bobweaver> fungoat,  maybe just open up libre office and see  if you can use fonts ?
[17:38] <bobweaver> IDNK though
[17:39] <fungoat> bobweaver: Tried that early on. No dice.
[17:40] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: but installing stuff here is a little tough ... like i installed my internet dongle
[17:40] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: its working but signal not showing in the status bar
[17:41] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: done ... now how shd i run it
[17:42] <Wiz_KeeD> where is the bot?
[17:42] <Wiz_KeeD> !lamp
[17:44] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: you there ?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: it will appear in dash and you can drag it to the Unity launcher if you want
[17:44] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: how should i run it now ?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: same as any other app you run.....
[17:45] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: sorry ... im new to this
[17:45] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: dash ?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: press the Windows key, you will see the dash, you can use it to search for apps and run them
[17:46] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip:  i searched for skype and it shows skype.deb
[17:46] <softcoder> can anyone help me??
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: or try ALT+F2 and run it there
[17:46] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: clicking that goes to the software center with the install button again
[17:46] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: alt f2 ?  the same command you gave ?
[17:46] <fungoat> bobweaver: Rebooted and, voila, they're installed. Go figure. Thanks again for your interest and assistance.
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: ALT+F2 and run:  skype
[17:47] <leonard> bobweaver: I found something that seems to work
[17:47] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: lemme try
[17:48] <leonard> and its a really quick fix
[17:48] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip:  says skype and 3levers
[17:48] <bobweaver> fungoat good to hear
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: then run skype :)
[17:48] <bobweaver> leonard,  what was that ?
[17:49] <bobweaver> ccsm leonard  ?
[17:49] <leonard> Since there seems to be no snaping for windows in 2d i use this script ... which i found http://pastebin.com/T6StxqQd
[17:49] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: please bear with me ... i double clicked that icon but nothing happened
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: it may be slow to initially start as its the first time
[17:50] <bobweaver> leonard,  I would still file bug against Unity-2d but it might be thrown to the way side but you never know
[17:50] <cnz> how do you fix grub when you get error no such device: <id> and then grub goes into grub rescque
[17:50] <gaetano_> hello everyone! is there someone that can tell me why my internet connection got slow with ubuntu and when i use windows the connection is instead ok?
[17:50] <bobweaver> leonard,  but that is cool right there I like the python script
[17:51] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: nothing happening
[17:51] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: eno action
[17:51] <leonard> i found feature requests and bug reports ... there just seems to be no interesset ... in the days of powerful graphics 2d is not cool enough ... i guess ;)
[17:51] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: no
[17:52] <leonard> bobweaver: the idea comes from this fellow http://tinyurl.com/cljenfl
[17:52] <gaetano_> hello everyone! is there someone that can tell me why my internet connection got slow with ubuntu and when i use windows the connection is instead ok?
[17:52] <wilfrid> I've got an okidata mb471 that Okidata told me would work fine in Linux.  Printing, yes.  Scanning, not so much.  Anyone gotten one of these to scan over a network?  Is it even their hardware, or someone else's with the Okidata name stamped on it?
[17:52] <leonard> well i am off now ... just wanted to post the answer so others might find it in a log
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: ok, run:   rm ~/skype.deb; clear; skype
[17:53] <Ankit_> ActionParsnip: skype command not found
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Ankit_: did the skype deb install ok?
[17:54] <Ankit_> i wrote in the command you gave
[17:54] <Ankit_> that completed
[17:54] <Ankit_> acidflash: i wrote in the command you gave and that completed
[17:55] <acidflash> ???
[17:55] <acidflash> I diddnt say anything
[17:55] <bazhang> Ankit_, hes gone
[17:55] <buddy> hey guys
[17:55] <Ankit_> wrote in the command you gave and that completed
[17:55] <Ankit_> bazhang: oops
[17:55] <acidflash> I gave you a command?
[17:55] <bazhang> acidflash, mis tabbed your nick
[17:55] <softcoder> anyone here able to help me??
[17:55] <acidflash> oh ok
[17:55] <Ankit_> acidflash: nah ... my helper is gone sry
[17:56] <buddy> i'm looking forward to puchase a new notebook and know a little helpless
[17:56] <bazhang> softcoder, ask an actual question
[17:56] <buddy> now*
[17:56] <Ankit_> why is it so tough getting to run skype here ?
[17:56] <softcoder> how do i allow numlock to work with my KVM
[17:56] <softcoder> ubuntu is not passing it to the KVM
[17:56] <softcoder> 12.10 64 bit
[17:56] <softcoder> it used to in 12.04
[17:57] <softcoder> please assist
[17:57] <buddy> i'm about to use ubuntu 12.04 LTS or mint maya cinamon
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Ankit_, try the linux static version of skype
[17:58] <buddy> so which brand shoud i go with? i've already tried lenovo with amd and it totaly failed
[17:59] <softcoder> can anyone help?
[17:59] <Jordan_U> buddy: Ideally, buy a notebook with Ubuntu pre-installed.
[17:59] <Jordan_U> !hardware | buddy
[18:00] <wilfrid> buddy, Dell is selling them again
[18:00] <Maisondouf> who can say to me how to verify if a specific chip is known by ahci system in kernel 3.5 ?
[18:01] <buddy> is there any decent difference in the hardware-support between ubuntu and meego?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> Maisondouf,  what hardware are you researching ?
[18:06] <Wiz_KeeD> is installing lamp with sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ supposed to take more than 20 minutes?
[18:08] <sam__> hey I m faceing a problem in installation of dot net 2.0 on wine this is my error
[18:08] <sam__> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/108724935/Screenshot%20from%202012-12-11%2002%3A37%3A08.png
[18:08] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: probably not... what's it stuck on?
[18:08] <Wiz_KeeD> it's not stuck, it's taking like forever
[18:08] <Wiz_KeeD> i didn't remember it taking so long
[18:09] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: did it start doing anything?
[18:09] <Wiz_KeeD> is it bad by the way to install lamp like that jrib?
[18:09] <Wiz_KeeD> sure it has passed mysql adn apache
[18:09] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: nope, that's good
[18:09] <sam__> anybody knows how i can install .net 2.0 without facing this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/108724935/Screenshot%20from%202012-12-11%2002%3A37%3A08.png
[18:09] <Wiz_KeeD> actually it's in apache-utils now
[18:09] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: maybe you have some other process hogging your resources?
[18:09] <Wiz_KeeD> what's the difference between installing like that jrib and installing taskel and then with thaskel installing lamp
[18:09] <Wiz_KeeD> not really it's a fresh new virtual image
[18:09] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: should be the same as far as I know
[18:10] <Wiz_KeeD> selecting and unpacking takes 1-2 minute each
[18:10] <Wiz_KeeD> i remember it scrolling down those lines like a machine gun...
[18:10] <Wiz_KeeD> Selecting previously unselected package apache2-utils.  /  Unpacking apache2-utils (from .../apache2-utils_2.2.22-1ubuntu1.2_i386.deb) ...  /  Selecting previously unselected package apache2.2-common.  / Unpacking apache2.2-common (from .../apache2.2-common_2.2.22-1ubuntu1.2_i386.deb) ...
[18:10] <sam__> I already installed Dll fixer it didn't work and i also downloaded the dll file from internet but the directory for .net 2 doesn't exist there is no file for it so i cannot paste it anywhere
[18:11] <Wiz_KeeD> takes like 2-3 minutes each, is that normal jrib ?
[18:11] <lini> hello , i got a problem with a game who is running on a seperate xserver ! becouse i got no sound ! i read on ubuntu wiki pls add youre user to audio group ! but they doesnt exist anymore !?
[18:11] <sam__> in other word its not just begining the installation its not just the dll file
[18:11] <sam__> anybody?
[18:11] <ikonia> lini: 1.) why are you running it on a seperate xserver 2.) check the audio group
[18:11] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: could be that the cpu is being used by another process or another process is writing to disk a lot?
[18:12] <lini> there is no group audio ?
[18:12] <lini> ikonia, there is pulse group!
[18:12] <demonperfection> I have a GRUB / Ubuntu issue if anyone can help.
[18:12] <Wiz_KeeD> it's on a fresh virtual machine jrib idk what to say...
[18:12] <Wiz_KeeD> how can i check
[18:12] <ikonia> lini is that the group it's expecting /
[18:12] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[18:12] <Wiz_KeeD> i login with another ssh instance and check
[18:12] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: sure
[18:12] <Wiz_KeeD> or place that to the background with ctrl+z idk
[18:12] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[18:12] <FloodBot1> Wiz_KeeD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <lini> ikonia, i did it bevor i added me to that group but with the same result ....no audio!?
[18:13] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i do that jrib ?
[18:14] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: you can login again with ssh
[18:14] <demonperfection> I'm on Ubuntu 12.10, using a laptop with nVidia graphics. I installed the experimental 310R drivers, which had bad results, so I removed those drivers. Now, when I boot up, GRUB has this weird high gamma / brightness thing going on. (photo) http://i.imgur.com/uNrve.jpg?1
[18:14] <Wiz_KeeD> i did that jrib
[18:14] <Wiz_KeeD> now what?
[18:14] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: run "top"
[18:15] <sam__> when i try to install dot net using the file downloaded from microsoft website it says its installed but .net 2 is not in program file or in windows folder/framwork
[18:15] <lini> ok thanks i try that audio group thing :;)
[18:16] <sam__> I really need to install .net2 please someone guide me its giving error with no reason
[18:16] <Wiz_KeeD> jrib, http://pastie.org/5512264
[18:16] <demonperfection> .NET2 is for Windows, not Linux. Not to mention, dot NET 2 is ancient.
[18:17] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: seems ok but I don't even see dpkg in there
[18:17] <Wiz_KeeD> what is that?
[18:17] <Wiz_KeeD> still...why does it run like crap
[18:17] <Wiz_KeeD> it's been 30 minutes
[18:17] <Wiz_KeeD> now
[18:17] <Ashleyludlow> So does anyone have issues with the gui interface on tpb ( think pad buttons)
[18:17] <FloodBot1> Wiz_KeeD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <jrib> Wiz_KeeD: dpkg is what apt actually calls to install a package
[18:18] <sam__> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/108724935/Screenshot%20from%202012-12-11%2002%3A37%3A08.png   help me install .net2
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> sam__  have you asked in #winehq ?
[18:19] <KI4RO> trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10.  Update Manager recommends not to so because of an issue with the graphics card which is Nvidia Corp C51 (geforce 6150 le) (rev a2) cprog-if 00[vga controller])
[18:19] <sam__> nope i didn't know such a thing exists
[18:19] <sam__> thanks :)
[18:20] <KI4RO> *not to do so
[18:20] <KI4RO> Any ideas?
[18:20] <juniour> KI4RO backup and fresh install 12.10
[18:21] <Ashleyludlow> Ki4ro- r u currently useing mesa?
[18:21] <KI4RO> juniour I will think about that idea
[18:21] <KI4RO> Ashleyludlow, What's mesa?
[18:21] <IdleOne> 12.10 doesn't offer any great value that makes it worth upgrading to. If the update manager is suggesting not to upgrade, don't.
[18:22] <KI4RO> IdleOne, Thanks
[18:22] <Ashleyludlow> Vga controler, sometines works with restricted
[18:22] <juniour> KI4RO upgrading cause problem sometime
[18:23] <KI4RO> juniour, I C
[18:23] <Ashleyludlow> Plus im not sure I even want to upgrade to 12.10 yet
[18:23] <juniour> KI4RO backup and fresh installation is the best option i think
[18:23] <KI4RO> Ashleyludlow, Don't know what you mean
[18:24] <KI4RO> juniour, Understood
[18:24] <IdleOne> You're glossing over the main part of his question. The upgrade manager is suggesting not to because of unsupported hardware.
[18:24] <hsplash> How do I force dsettings to apply live (without having to restart the GUI), just like gconftool does?
[18:25] <KI4RO> IdleOne, I don't believe the system is that old...got it from a friend...its AMD 64 I believe
[18:26] <KI4RO> IdleOne, Is that an old vga controller?
[18:26] <alexastely> hello!
[18:26] <alexastely> I have a question!
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> alexastely: askaway
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> hsplash: which settings do you mean?
[18:27] <alexastely> No help needed anymore
[18:27] <alexastely> :D
[18:27] <alexastely> I couldn't change my password before
[18:27] <IdleOne> KI4RO: I have a 6150SE and I am runing 12.10 Kubuntu, runs fine (for me) But if the upgrade manager is saying that there is an issue with the 6150LE and telling you that an upgrade is not recommended. You should listen to it.
[18:28] <alexastely> But now I've made it
[18:28] <alexastely> :D
[18:28] <KI4RO> IdleOne, Understood....will it be supported in the future you think?
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> KI4RO  in other words: keep 12.04
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> alexastely: sweet
[18:28] <IdleOne> KI4RO: Do you have any problems with 12.04 at the moment?
[18:28] <KI4RO> MonkeyDust, Thanks
[18:28] <KI4RO> IdleOne, No
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> KI4RO: precise is LTS so will be supported even after Raring is EOL :)
[18:28] <IdleOne> KI4RO: Then don't go looking for any :)
[18:29] <KI4RO> IdleOne, Makes sense to me LOL
[18:29] <invisib1> How do I go fullscreen on a 1080 monitor with Virtualbox?
[18:29] <juniour> KI4RO 12.04 LTS 5 years upport
[18:29] <invisib1> I seem to remember it was guess additions or something
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> invisib1  right ctrl + F
[18:29] <invisib1> But after I install those, how to fullscreen?
[18:30] <KI4RO> juniour, Understood...just don't want the system to fall behind because of this issue
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> invisib1: CTRL+F
[18:30] <hsplash> ActionParsnip: For example, "gsettings set com.canonical.Unity2d.Launcher hide-mode 1" works if done via GUI, but it doesn't if I just run the command, although the effect to the dsettings database is the same. This discrimination doesn't exist in Gnome.
[18:30] <juniour> invisib1 install virtualbox guest addation
[18:31] <invisib1> Doesn't make entire window fullscreen
[18:31] <invisib1> Well, makes window fullscreen, but not the ubutnu desktop
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> hsplash: not sure, are there bugs reported?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> invisib1: you'll need a similar res in the virtual OS
[18:31] <invisib1> How do I save the state of the virtualbox so I dont have to install ubuntu over and over/
[18:31] <invisib1> Snapshot or screenshot?
[18:31] <invisib1> ActionParsnip: O yah thnx
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> invisib1  close the vbox window and save the current state
[18:32] <jrib> hsplash: what does "just run the command" mean?
[18:32] <juniour> invisib save the machine state
[18:32] <juniour> invisib1 save the machine state
[18:32] <juniour> invisib1 or install the ubuntu
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> invisib1  i guess you're doing something wrong, if you have to install over and over again
[18:33] <hsplash> jrib: Just as I said. Run the command. In a terminal. As a command. As quoted. Literally. I don't know how to explain, but I'm sure you get it without my explanations.
[18:33] <xpistos> Hello all. Is there a way to record google mail calls from my ubuntu laptop? It doesn't have to be great, just audible.
[18:33] <mako_reactor> install gentoo
[18:33] <Guest3278> hello
[18:33] <juniour> invisib1 when you open ubuntu it will ask you for try ubuntu or intall in the hard disk, so click on install on the hard disk
[18:34] <jrib> hsplash: I read your statement as "why does doing X work but doing X not work?" (X are the same)
[18:34] <invisib1> save state worked perfect
[18:34] <juniour> invisib1 for full screen click on Device->additional drivers
[18:34] <bazhang> !behelpful | mako_reactor
[18:34] <userZ> once I download a color theme in ubuntu, how do I  install it?
[18:35] <invisib1> juniour: Thanks
[18:35] <userZ> in xchat
[18:35] <juniour> invisib1 it will install addtional feature of virtual guest and it will enable the full svreen
[18:35] <jrib> hsplash: maybe you can explain how ""gsettings set com.canonical.Unity2d.Launcher hide-mode 1" works if done via GUI" means to me. How is that different than "just run the command"?
[18:35] <invisib1> I've installed guest additions, but it's only giving me 800x600 and 640x480 resolutions
[18:35] <hsplash> jrib: Not identical. O(nly! o)ne of the terms of my comparison had a modifier ("via GUI").
[18:35] <invisib1> Do I need to install more resolutions??
[18:36] <juniour> invisib1 just reboot
[18:36] <jrib> hsplash: what does "via GUI" mean?  You mean you don't actually input the command but toggle something on a graphical interface instead?
[18:36] <invisib1> Btw, using Lucid
[18:36] <invisib1> Does "reset" just like "Restart" in Win?
[18:36] <hsplash> jrib: Yes. It seems the GUI can do more than the command line can do, unlike what gconftool can do in Gnome.
[18:37] <invisib1> Or more like a Nintendo button?
[18:37] <juniour> invisib1 reebot ubuntu on host os
[18:37] <juniour> invisib1 sorry reboot ubuntu not host os
[18:37] <hsplash> jrib: Although, according to "gsettings list-recursively", they both have the same effect.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> mako_reactor: why use a distro, why not use pure source, emerge is for girls
[18:38] <jrib> hsplash: have you seen the behavior with any other settings?  With any other non-unity and non-compiz settings?
[18:38] <invisib1> Awesome
[18:38] <invisib1> Works a charm, Thanks guys
[18:38] <juniour> invisib1 welcome :)
[18:39] <KI4RO> BTW Many thanks for all the feedback on my question; think I'm just going to wait until the update manager says it is okay to proceed
[18:39] <juniour>  KI4RO lol :)
[18:39] <jrib> hsplash: also, if you use gsettings only to change the setting, then log out and log back in, does the panel then hide?
[18:41] <christian^> I have a question regarding dnsmasq/NetworkManager on Ubuntu 12.10, I want to do some development for a mail server and for testing purposes I want to install a local mailserver, but thunderbird needs an MX record for mail delivery, I read that dnsmasq is capable of delivering MX records, yet I can't find any /etc/dnsmasq.conf nor did I find any other information how to do this, do I need to install some dnsmasq package via a
[18:41] <christian^> pt?
[18:42] <hsplash> jrib: I'm almost sure it does; I unfortunately can't test that at the moment for a confirmation.
[18:42] <hsplash> jrib: I tested the other thing you suggested; "gsettings reset com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist" doesn't get reset.
[18:43] <jrib> hsplash: I have not used compiz (nor unity) in quite sometime but in the past there were several backends for settings.  What may be happening is that unity is actually using something other than gsettings for that setting.  Doing the log out and log in dance would rule this out
[18:43] <hsplash> jrib: What else could it be? I can give *that* a try.
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> !pt | christian^
[18:44] <hsplash> jrib: (what other backends, that is)
[18:45] <jrib> hsplash: this was many years ago, I'm just throwing a data point out there. I think you could use flat files and gconf among others I forget
[18:45] <christian^> MonkeyDust: what? I'm not from brazil, nor do I speak portuguese.
[18:45] <jrib> hsplash: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/231/builds/21598/testcases/1412/results seems like this gsettings migration happened over the summer
[18:45] <mumbles4362> hello
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> christian^  you said 'pt?' - is must have misunderstood
[18:47] <Pe1o> good afternoon folks, I have an SDHC card question,   8 gig card, system monitor and nautilus tell me I have about 7 gig of content on it , but when I count I get only 4.5 gig and the disc space analyser tells me about the same ,  trashcan is empty,  can someone one tell me how to recover the extra space ?
[18:47] <hsplash> jrib: The most probable alternative should be gconf.
[18:47] <steven> samba 4 is released
[18:47] <steven> https://www.samba.org/samba/news/releases/4.0.0.html
[18:47] <steven> i still think its a fake news, but it looks so real
[18:48] <hsplash> jrib: I can't find any occurrence of "hide" in `gconftool -R /`
[18:48] <hsplash> jrib: I can't find any occurrence of "hide" in `gconftool -R /`.
[18:48] <CypSteel> Trying to install percona 5.5 on a clean version of ubuntu 12.10.   percona-server-common-5.5 seems to uninstall libmysqlclient-dev which is needed for percona-server-client-5.5.  Any advice?
[18:48] <christian^> MonkeyDust: oh sorry, the message became too long, it was still part of the word "apt" lol
[18:48] <jrib> hsplash: wait, you're on 12.04?
[18:49] <OerHeks> steven it is not > http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=samba4
[18:49] <OerHeks> *not fake news
[18:49] <lucido> whats a good scan and ocr app?
[18:49] <hsplash> jrib: Oh. Damn it. Yes. Forgot to mention. How did you guess? :)
[18:50] <jrib> hsplash: unity2d is dead in 12.10 :)
[18:50] <jk_> OerHeks, Could well be released by samba.org but not yet incorporated in *buntu packages.
[18:50] <steven> OerHeks, so there is no ubuntu package (it was released 30 minutes ago^^) but it is real? i mean they announce the release since around 2 years now xD
[18:50] <tybos> hi all, would like to know where people discussing about hardware specifics support chat ...
[18:50] <jrib> hsplash: did you try using dconf-editor and seeing if the behavior is the same?  I don't see why it wouldn't be but I have no other suggestions right now
[18:51] <bazhang> tybos, ##hardware
[18:51] <tybos> thanks bazhang
[18:51] <CypSteel> Trying to install percona 5.5 on a clean version of ubuntu 12.10.   percona-server-common-5.5 seems to uninstall libmysqlclient-dev which is needed for percona-server-client-5.5.  Any advice?
[18:51] <hsplash> jrib: Same...
[18:52] <OerHeks> steven, 30 minutes ago .. and you expect samba 4 to be in ubuntu this minute ?
[18:52] <fast> I am considering using a projector as my primary computer monitor and wonder if anybody can offer any feedback on this idea.
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> steven  the repos don't always contain the latest version of programs
[18:53] <steven> i know that : )
[18:53] <hsplash> jrib: Thank you (insight and patience). :)
[18:54] <steven> ubuntu really needs something like a rolling release repo
[18:54] <OerHeks> steven maybe raring 13.04 will provide samba4, check #ubuntu+1 for that
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> steven  you could submit the idea in !brainstorm
[18:55] <steven> i was actually planning on submitting the idea!
[18:55] <hsplash> steven: Hasn't it been submitted already?
[18:55] <steven> but second thought was more like ubuntu isn't designed for that
[18:56] <jrib> hsplash: for what it's worth, I toggled /org/gnome/nautilus/desktop/home-icon-visible in dconf-editor and it shows up right away on my desktop (after I turn it off and on)
[18:56] <steven> hsplash, i didn't see a submit like that, which one are you talking about=
[18:56] <cinka_> hey
[18:57] <hsplash> steven: I wasn't assuming, but just wondering.
[18:57] <scarrs> hello, I don't suppose anybody has figured out how to prevent banshee from crashing...
[18:57] <bolizo> dont use banshee, its this mono creps..
[18:57] <bolizo> there's plenty alternative (rhythmbox, etc)
[18:57] <Guest66358> I am considering using a projector as my primary computer monitor and wonder if anybody can offer any feedback on this idea.
[18:57] <steven> oh i see : )
[18:58] <bolizo> projector have limited lifetime, so i think its bad
[18:58] <bolizo> very limisted
[18:58] <OerHeks> projector + sunshine is bad
[18:58] <hsplash> jrib: After you turn what off and on? The whole GUI?
[18:58] <bolizo> that too
[18:58] <steven> well maybe i'll submit it one of these days, i just highly doubt that a rr repo will land in ubuntu :)
[18:59] <bolizo> my 11.04 version doesnt receive update and how i fix this?
[18:59] <Guest66358> reason being I'm primarly using it for XBMC to watch movies, I'm prepared to buy bulbs every so often
[18:59] <OerHeks> !11.04
[18:59] <OerHeks> upgrade then
[18:59] <Guest66358> is it still bad?
[18:59] <bolizo> i dont want to update.. i did it once and my entire PC broke
[19:00] <bolizo> naw for xbmc its quite good
[19:00] <bolizo> but for main desktop, i use my desktop 8 hours a day to 12
[19:00] <bolizo> its a waste :p
[19:01] <bolizo> perhaps i downgrade to 10.04? this oddly has longer support
[19:01] <Guest66358> for desktop use I'd use a different machine with lcd
[19:01] <steven> you are the first person ever!!! who wants to downgrade an OS
[19:01] <softcoder> simple question for 12.10, how can i add a shotcut to a sh file on the unity toolbar?
[19:01] <Guest66358> no I downgraded
[19:02] <steven> just dist-upgrade it to ubuntu 12.04 which is also LTE, i have never encountered any problems
[19:02] <Guest66358> didn't like 12.10 for my *buntu
[19:02] <bolizo> I had 12.04 and first of all, glibc is different. secodnly, rms says newest versions are crap
[19:02] <steven> so what??
[19:02] <ejv> "oddly"? 10.04 is a LTS (Long Term Support) release. There's nothing odd about it.
[19:02] <steven> who cares what rms says..
[19:03] <Catbuntu> Hi
[19:03] <bolizo> there needs to be uniformity. my server is 10.04. different glibc from 12.04
[19:03] <OerHeks> bolizo, so you don't want an answer, you made up your mind already.
[19:03] <steven> just one man with one opinion.
[19:03] <steven> yes, well i just think its odd, i never said don't do it : )
[19:03] <bolizo> Oerheks: well, is there a way to get 12.04 without the new glibc?
[19:03] <steven> your machines, your systems
[19:04] <steven> but if you go after rms, you shouldn't use ubuntu at all
[19:04] <kostkon> bolizo, no
[19:04] <bolizo> then there won't be any problem :o
[19:04] <softcoder> politics aside can anyone help me?
[19:04] <softcoder> question is above ^^
[19:05] <bolizo> ok then, 10.04 seems tempting. However desktop support is ending quite soon. If i get 10.04 LTS server, can i still use it as desktop?
[19:06] <kostkon> softcoder, use this for example, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/create-launcher/
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> bolizo  technically yes, but you'd have to install a DE
[19:06] <kostkon> softcoder, or any other similar software that you might find on the usc. Just do a search.
[19:06] <OerHeks> softcoder, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[19:06] <bolizo> so whats the difference between server with Gnome/kde/lxde/xfce and desktop?
[19:07] <faschero> hi
[19:08] <OerHeks> bolizo, you get support like updates, maybe not for your desktop on the server.
[19:08] <GuySoft> hey all, i am trying to install ubuntu on a brand new laptop alongside windows 8 that uses uefi. (I have formated sda7 for root, and sda8 for efi boot partition and sda9 for swap). However when i give those partitions in the manual install the installation fails when the installer tries to mount sda1 which is a vfat system, saying it can't find there boot/efi
[19:08] <GuySoft> what should I do?
[19:08] <kostkon> bolizo, if you use 10.04 server as a desktop you will not receive security updates for the desktop software, e.g. updates for firefox, etc.
[19:08] <bolizo> ahh :D no updates for firefox, nice!
[19:08] <kostkon> bolizo, not nice at all, but dangerous
[19:09] <bolizo> every update botches up all my plugins
[19:09] <softcoder> create launcher has a buy button
[19:09] <softcoder> thats garbage
[19:09] <Guest3278> anyone know a good irc client for windows?
[19:09] <bolizo> xchat
[19:09] <bolizo> mirc
[19:09] <wakkaa> having problems viewing mounted partition, any trick to this?  basically I have two partitions, one is ubuntu 9.04 and the other is 12.0 version and all my data is on 9.0, any way to merge the data and delete the old partition?
[19:09] <Pici> Guest3278: Ask in ##windows please, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[19:09] <Guest3278> xchat cost right?
[19:10] <bolizo> for windows yes
[19:10] <Pici> no
[19:10] <Guest3278> what about hexchat?
[19:10] <Guest3278> looks the same
[19:10] <Pici> Guest3278: Please stop
[19:10] <hp> Lubuntu or ubuntu ??
[19:10] <bolizo> :D your choice
[19:10] <kostkon> softcoder, it's free......
[19:10] <bolizo> get ubuntu and install lxde?
[19:11] <bolizo> then you have both
[19:11] <softcoder> then why does it say buy
[19:11] <Guest80407> yep my choice
[19:11] <faschero> hi all! i've installed ubuntu studio 12.10 on my brand new notebook samsung...mozilla block every 4 seconds....and the OS didn't play any sound...any solution?
[19:11] <bolizo> block every 4 seconds?
[19:11] <Guest3278> i know nothing about ubuntu
[19:11] <Guest80407> but ubuntu +lxde = light
[19:11] <bolizo> i would say LXDE is closest to windows xp/7, so if you come from there it needs no big familiarizations
[19:12] <bolizo> so get lubuntu that case
[19:12] <OerHeks> softcoder, it does not say buy.
[19:12] <softcoder> it doies for me in software center
[19:12] <kostkon> softcoder, because its developer used the publish service for the usc and has set the price to 0.0 http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/
[19:12] <softcoder> and requires me to 'accept a license'
[19:12] <faschero> yes 4 example  youtube videos stop every 4 seconds and no sound are play
[19:12] <GuySoft> does anyone here know how to install ubuntu under uefi
[19:12] <GuySoft> ?
[19:12] <kostkon> softcoder, trust me, it is free
[19:12] <Guest80407> i already installed lubuntu this os is fast whaou
[19:12] <bolizo> oo yes flash plugin is very annoying in linux :/ can you try html5?
[19:12] <dr_willis> softcoder:  some apps may require you to accept  a EULA.
[19:13] <bolizo> yes it is :D lubuntu is too speed
[19:13] <dr_willis> softcoder:  and there are some comercial APPS in the software center.
[19:13] <yuntsewu> are you using a proprietary  flash player?
[19:13] <bruim> someone use smartcard+ubuntu?
[19:13] <softcoder> i know that I'm an open source dev
[19:13] <yuntsewu> that may be it
[19:13] <Guest80407>  i have  a dell optiplex 740  with nvidia 6150LE and 4gig of ram
[19:13] <softcoder> i find it weird that a free app would say buy and require me to accept some kind of EULA, when virtuall 99% of open souyrce apps do not require this
[19:13] <Guest80407> lubuntu i'm in love
[19:14] <bolizo> hmm theres new kernmel 3.7, will i be able to get it soon with updates? from12.10?
[19:14] <bolizo> or will 10.04 receive exactly the same :D?
[19:14] <dr_willis> softcoder:  what app exactly?
[19:14] <faschero> also facebook or other pages sometimes block...flash player is correctly installed!
[19:14] <softcoder> create launcher
[19:14] <OerHeks> softcoder, then follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[19:14] <softcoder> mlux.at
[19:14] <softcoder> makes me think it may be sopyware
[19:14] <Guest80407> you need to install flash  go to ubuntu softawre center and check
[19:15] <dr_willis> softcoder:  whats the exact name of the package you intalled.
[19:15] <softcoder> i did not install it
[19:15] <dr_willis> Then where did it come from?
[19:15] <kostkon> dr_willis, just this https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/create-launcher/
[19:15] <bolizo> but its sad from new version :( ram usage of 12.10 is much higher than 8.04 i had ;s
[19:15] <softcoder> in software center it shows as:
[19:15] <softcoder> create-launcher 1.0
[19:16] <OerHeks> dr_willis, he wants to run his own script, tru a launcher
[19:16] <softcoder> license proprietary
[19:16] <dr_willis> License:Proprietary    yep.. they can charge..
[19:16] <jrib> bolizo: unused ram is wasted ram :)  Do you ever end up with your ram full?
[19:16] <softcoder> i cannot beleive i can't jsut drag a link to the launcher
[19:16] <kostkon> dr_willis, an app uploaded directly to usc but with zero price, i mean this http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/
[19:16] <bolizo> yes i have only 512MB
[19:16] <faschero> i've re-install  plugin adobe flash! i
[19:16] <jrib> bolizo: ah, then I'd strongly recommend you install and try lubuntu-desktop
[19:16] <bolizo> especially if i play flash things, or large word files
[19:16] <dr_willis> Theres other tools out there to make launchers. i saw some the other day. Or just copy/paste and edit your own .desktop file
[19:16] <bolizo> i have already :P
[19:16] <Guest80407> 512MB don't use ubuntu go for lubuntu
[19:16] <bolizo> i have ubuntu with lxde
[19:17] <bolizo> using lightdm
[19:17] <softcoder> ok i will make a desktop file but thats not user freindly
[19:17] <jrib> bolizo: what's using all your ram?
[19:17] <bolizo> hmm lets see htop
[19:17] <softcoder> how am i suppsoed to evangelize my friends to use ubuntu with that?
[19:17] <kostkon> softcoder, ...
[19:17] <OerHeks> softcoder, the docu i gave you is user friendly :-)
[19:17] <OerHeks> stop the ranting please
[19:17] <softcoder> not for a dumb windows user
[19:17] <softcoder> ok
[19:18] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/how-can-i-create-launchers-on-my-desktop
[19:18] <bruim> smartcard+ubuntu?
[19:18] <bolizo> firefox : 150mb  , X: 20mb. but yeah firefox keeps coming
[19:18] <softcoder> thanks dr_willis and others
[19:18] <bobweaver> softcoder,  there are many ways to "skin a cat"
[19:18] <bolizo> perhaps i could get somewhere DDR1 512MB sticks, or even 1024M
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> softcoder  lxde is leightwaight and has the menu down left
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[19:18] <softcoder> i like unity
[19:18]  * OerHeks remembers alacarte
[19:18] <bolizo> theres also EDE, very muhc like it :D
[19:18] <softcoder> yes i actually like it
[19:18] <locojay> any idea why i see somes strange question mark symbols in gnome terminal under zsh, vim and not uder terminator?
[19:18] <jrib> bolizo: chromium might be a little lighter, you can try that
[19:19] <bolizo> you also know XFCE with "REDMOND" style ;) ? almost like XP
[19:19] <dr_willis> the whole idea of having launcher icons on the desktop is sort of.. well.. getting  phased out. ;)
[19:19] <kostkon> softcoder, I have already recommended you an app. there are others that are similar in the usc. The usc contains tons of apps. Just search
[19:20] <Guest80407> ubuntu +wine = better than windows
[19:20] <Guest80407> sorry lubuntu
[19:21] <dr_willis> hopefully the ubuntu software center wont get clutterred with the 'free but not open sourced' apps in the future
[19:21] <yuntsewu> I use 12.04 ubuntu with mate lol
[19:22] <bolizo> how?
[19:22] <bobweaver> I hope that it does dr_willis
[19:22] <Guest80407> youpi
[19:22] <faschero> hi!
[19:22] <bolizo> :D ffrom hi
[19:22] <bolizo> theres kurnel 3.7. how i install this?
[19:23] <faschero> i've  problem with my brand new installed ubuntu studio 12.10
[19:23] <bobweaver> dr_willis,  options for dev , all opensource has a 3 month wait to even be reviewed. proparitary stuff that is free as in beer gets in right away
[19:23] <kostkon> dr_willis, it will do, most of it will be software and game coming from android. but what im saying, it's already happening
[19:23] <bruim> someone install intel hd3000 on ubuntu 12.10
[19:23] <bruim> w
[19:23] <lilly> film
[19:23] <bolizo> hm:o is there way to put inside 3.7 kunrel ? ubunu?
[19:23] <dr_willis> kostkon:  yep. and the android marketplace is getting tobe a bit of a disaster when trying to find stuff.. amazons marketplace is even worse for apps.
[19:24] <faschero> my ubuntu didin't play any sound from audacity or audacious!
[19:24] <OerHeks> bolizo, installing your own kernel is not supported here. you will break some depencies.
[19:24] <bolizo> ok :s sad but fair answer. thanks
[19:24] <dr_willis> bolizo:  why do you need 3.7?
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> faschero  open a terminal and type alsamixer - anything wrong there?
[19:24] <bobweaver> dr_willis,  if you are a developer and you have a cool app it is not easy to use opensource model to get it into software center as  fast as it is to close up code. Now I think that it is because of the wait time something needs to be addressed to that
[19:24] <bolizo> its new :P also, i have 2.6 now? i think? and its draining battery very fast.. well known problem i think
[19:24] <kostkon> dr_willis, quantity it's good :P, at least for now
[19:25] <dr_willis> bobweaver:  i thought that was what ppa's were for. :) for the most part.
[19:25] <bolizo> i am too gow, bei
[19:25] <dr_willis> I honestly rarely if ever even run the software center.
[19:25] <faschero> monkeydust...all level are "100"
[19:26] <GuySoft> dammit! installation is stuck again!
[19:26] <bobweaver> dr_willis,  sure and that works. but not for people that want to get it into main or partner. and then after that most the time it is like "oh this is cool you should get into debian" then you go to debian and they are like "Kid what are you doing this is not how we do things here you must now do XYZ Z" package
[19:27] <gansbrest> hello. I'm having problems setting my keyboard shortucts for switching workspaces on 12.10. I'm loosing my settings every time I reboot the machine.. I tried to set shortcuts in Compiz and Unity Keyboard tool.. same resulsts
[19:27] <GuySoft> doesn't anyone here know why install would fail to mount the uefi partition?
[19:28] <bobweaver> dr_willis,  after xyz is done file a itp bug then hope that you can pick up a sponsor. then again now you are waiting 6 months just to get revied by ubuntu packagers to get to main or partner
[19:29] <bobweaver> it is the wait time something needs to done about that . that is all I am saying. sorry IDK how I ended up doing this rant off-topic sorry
[19:29] <jrib> bobweaver: it makes more sense to just put the package in debian usually
[19:30] <bobweaver> jrib,  but then you are dealing with deban mentors and that is well "a whole new ball game "
[19:31] <bobweaver> jrib,  maybe a pm ? dont want to flood channel with non support stuff ?
[19:35] <max999> hi evyone, how can i check what the reason is, that my ubuntu (fork) based netbook seems to randomly power off? (could be a hardware issue of course..)
[19:36] <mysteriousdaren> max999: is it getting noticable warm?
[19:36] <dr_willis> max999:  try with differnt disrto/releases and see if it keeps doing it. if so it very well may be a hw issue. Most netbooks ive had work well with ubuntu
[19:36] <dr_willis> there is some bugs where the os thinks the battery is at zero and shuts down also.
[19:36] <max999> mysteriousdaren: i didnt figure a sheme out yet, it sometimes runs for hours without problems, some other time it powers off after a few minutes. i never do much on it, just using a mobile internet stick and a rdp-session.
[19:37] <dr_willis> check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact make/model netbook also - there may be some known issues
[19:38] <max999> dr_willis: found one thread asking if there are known problems with my acer aspire one 756 with one reply saying no.
[19:38] <stevekane> hrm
[19:38] <max999> i tried to find some kernel errors or something in the logfiles but there are none (as far i can see) .. makes sense too, its not rebooting or showing a kernel message, plain power off.
[19:38] <dr_willis> I got an AAO last year. with no issues. ;) but i dont know its exct model
[19:39] <dr_willis> the netbook craze is sort of fadeing away.
[19:39] <dr_willis> Now its all about tablets.
[19:39] <max999> dr_willis: i like to have a real keyboard :-D
[19:39] <dr_willis> my tablet does have a real keyboard. ;)
[19:40] <max999> one of the convertables?
[19:40] <dr_willis> Gotta love full sized usb ports on a tablet. I can plug in any keyboard/mouse/external hds
[19:40] <meneIpod> I couldn't connect to 5 ghz networks so I dled the drivers from  my manufacturer's website (ralink for linksys wmp600n) and ran make and make install, now I don't see any network icon and lshw -C network returns that wlan0 is disabled, I am willing to just rollback to old drivers.
[19:40] <max999> and carry around a bunch of devices / extras.. sure :D
[19:41] <max999> well i will get a cpu temp tool for my netbook first i guess
[19:41] <max999> could check my ram next :l
[19:41] <dr_willis> got a mini bluetooth keyboard if i need to go mobile.. but then again.. you aing going to be doing much typeing on the bus.
[19:41] <lilly> come posso scaricare il film di avatar
[19:41] <max999> dr_willis: on the train, you can do a lot of typing ;)
[19:42] <dr_willis> max999:  train? :) never been on one.. ;P   we all know its about watching netflix on your commute.
[19:43] <meneIpod> One other thing is that my boot times are suddenly horrendous.
[19:43] <dr_willis> all i do on mine is hang out on irc all day long.
[19:43] <max999> dr_willis: i use it for rdp sessions to remote computers =)
[19:43] <dr_willis> max999:  that sounds too much like real work.. theres the problem! ;P
[19:44] <max999> dr_willis: thats why i want a real keyboard :D
[19:44] <max999> dr_willis: i will go download lm-sensors now and put my netbook on a stresstest .. ;-)
[19:44] <meneIpod> I think I'm running xubuntu updated to 12.10 x64
[19:44] <max999> bb ty
[19:45] <dr_willis> wanting a real keyboard.. and using a netbook. ;) well.. i guess thats close. if you got tiny hands.
[19:46] <dr_willis> meneIpod:  done any hw tests lately? memtest, and perhaps tried some live cd/disrtos to see if the devices work in them?
[19:50] <lilly_> #53
[19:58] <lucido> how can I add the outside temperature applet to the status bar?
[20:00] <saburo> hi
[20:02] <dr_willis> lucido:  theres a weather 'indicator applet' in the repos i belive. theres also dozens of addational inticator applets in the repos and many many more  available by differnt PPAs.  askubuntu.com had a big list of them at one tme.
[20:03] <saburo> i do not understand why 11.10 do not ask me to upgrade to 12.04. someone could give me a reason?
[20:04] <dr_willis> my-weather-indicator - An indicator for weather
[20:04] <dr_willis> !info my-weather-indicator
[20:04] <dr_willis> must be from a ppa i have installed.
[20:04] <Treadstone__71> Hello
[20:05] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/weather-indicator    has a nice little weather indicator applet.
[20:05] <juan1> hla
[20:05] <juan1> nesesito ayuda
[20:05] <juan1> tecnica
[20:06] <b14d3> !sp | juan1
[20:06] <b14d3> Hrm, that wasn't it.
[20:06] <dr_willis> !es | juan1
[20:06] <b14d3> That.. makes m ore sense. Thanks dr_willis
[20:06] <lucido> dr_willis, indicator-weather doesnt work
[20:07] <juan1> #UBUNTU
[20:07] <saburo> ok, i have made a question too simple or too difficult :-(
[20:08] <dr_willis> saburo:  you can force a upgrade with the do-release-upgrade command i belive
[20:08] <dr_willis> upgrade
[20:08] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[20:08] <dr_willis> I rarely upgrade.
[20:08] <xpistos> Hello all. Is there a way to record google mail calls from my ubuntu laptop? It doesn't have to be great, just audible.
[20:08] <dr_willis> xpistos:  theres some guide for recording skype calls.. it may work the same.
[20:08] <dr_willis> !skype
[20:09] <stiv222222> how to find polish chat??
[20:09] <dr_willis> !pl
[20:09] <xpistos> dr_willis: I do have skype call recorder, I just didn't want to pay to record it. It is a 401k meeting for work and I wanted to record it for my wife
[20:10] <dr_willis> xpistos:  i dont really use either one. so no idea other then what that skype guide may say.
[20:10] <stiv222222> ok dzięki
[20:10] <dr_willis> I use google voice.. but thats on my phone. not the pc.
[20:10] <saburo> the program tell me that not new release are available....
[20:10] <xpistos> I am trying to get my podcast partners to use ekiga but it is a slow process since they are mac and windows users
[20:11] <saburo> but my actual release is 11.10
[20:11] <xpistos> how about what is a good screen capture tool for morons?
[20:12] <dr_willis>  "do-release-upgrade -d"  may do it saburo  or that may try to go to 13.04 ;)
[20:12] <xpistos> or desktop recording ...
[20:12] <dr_willis> xpistos:  theres that gtk-recordmydesktop
[20:13] <dr_willis> but i always have issues withit recording sound
[20:13] <sebastian_> Apropos, what will 13.04s codename be?
[20:13] <dr_willis> just 'do-release-upgrade' may upgrade you to  the next release
[20:13] <dr_willis> Roaring Somthingsilly
[20:13] <dr_willis> these cutsy animal names are getting silly
[20:13] <salamare> hello
[20:13] <xpistos> hmmm
[20:14] <juan1> hello
[20:14] <dr_willis> and just cause confusion to beginners.
[20:14] <xpistos> installArchives() failed: dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 17: missing package name Error in function:
[20:14] <sebastian_> "Raring Ringtail"? o.O Well, that's still saner than Quantal Quetzl or what that was...
[20:14] <saburo> 'do-release-upgrade -d'
[20:14] <saburo> sorry
[20:14] <dr_willis> be carefull with do-repease-ugrade -d'  it might NOT do what you want. try it without the d first
[20:14] <saburo> the command tell me the same answer
[20:15] <dr_willis> im out of ideas then.
[20:15] <dr_willis> I rarely upgrade
[20:15] <xpistos> let me upgrade first
[20:15] <dr_willis> Clean instlls are much faster
[20:15] <xpistos> less room for error too
[20:16] <saburo> ok, thank you however
[20:16] <dr_willis> everytime i seesomeone in here want to upgrade from like 8.04 to 12.04  i cringe..
[20:17] <salamare> hello guys
[20:17] <salamare> hello !
[20:17] <salamare> 1234
[20:18] <EntropyWorks> so anyone have ufw preseeding firewall rules during an install?
[20:18] <salamare> budy no sorry
[20:19] <Sysaxed> Which torrent client could download pieces in sequential order? Yes, I why it's bad.
[20:19] <Sysaxed> I know*
[20:19] <xpistos> Well when I try to update my system I get an error (installArchives() failed: dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 17:)
[20:19] <xpistos> can I just rm that file and then try again
[20:22] <xpistos> well i sure can't open it
[20:23] <Cottus> maybe perhaps move it
[20:23] <b14d3> xpistos: It's sound like your best option would be a clean install, like dr_willis suggested.
[20:23] <b14d3> It sounds* don't know what happened to my grammar there.
[20:23] <xpistos> b14d3: I think this is something do to with the gtk-recordmydesktop
[20:23] <xpistos> cause this just started when I tried to install it
[20:24] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[20:24] <lucido> how can I install this ppa with apt? https://launchpad.net/~atareao/+archive/indicators
[20:24] <xpistos> I can apt-get update
[20:24] <xpistos> but not apt-get upgrade -y
[20:25] <horseatingweeds> I'm using KDE partition manager, but all the options are greyed out. Why is that?
[20:25] <hauck> Hi there, I am trying to mount an HFS/NTFS partition and the mount command returns the error "must specify the file system type", does anyone know what I need to specify?
[20:26] <Cottus> hauck: can you paste the command you used
[20:26] <lucido> HFS? lol that still exsists?
[20:28] <xangua> horseatingweeds: are you on a live cs/usb ¿
[20:28] <hauck> lucido: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/harddrive
[20:28] <mouthwash>     /set gui_hide_menu off
[20:28] <xangua> lucido: you have the instructions to add that repository right there "How to Add a PPA to my System"
[20:28] <Cottus> i think the filesystem in sda1 has a problem
[20:28] <lucido> my-weather-indicator  no quantal version :(
[20:28] <Robbilie> where to find jono bacon? :D
[20:29] <xpistos> so I renamed the file to available.bak
[20:29] <xpistos> and created a new one using sudo sh -c 'for i in /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Packages; do dpkg --merge-avail "$i"; done'
[20:29] <xpistos> and it looks like that did the trick
[20:30] <xangua> lucido: if you have an issue with the repository contact the maintainer(s), i just use indicator-weather and it's already on the repository
[20:30] <xangua> !info indicator-weather | lucido
[20:30] <mouthwash> can anybody help me get quake to work pls?
[20:30] <hauck> 	Hi there, I am trying to mount an HFS/NTFS partition and the mount command returns the error "must specify the file system type", does anyone know what I need to specify?
[20:30] <lucido> xangua, indicator-weather doesnt work
[20:30] <Cottus> hauck:  check the filesystem table
[20:31] <freeuserid> hello everyone
[20:31] <xangua> lucido: it does right here
[20:31] <horseatingweeds> Just to make sure, ext2 is appropriate for installing Ubuntu?
[20:32] <mouthwash> i should copy sopme pak-files according to readme, but don't know where to find them?
[20:32] <lucido> xangua, I cant even set it up, I chose location then clcik apply and nothing happens
[20:32] <dr_willis> horseatingweeds:  ext3 or 4 is more commonly used. ext2 should work
[20:32] <xpistos> yeah that did it
[20:32] <LucidGuy> Dual screen scenario.  All users logging into an Ubuntu box have the right screen as the default display with toolbar etc.  yet one user regardless of what I do to xorg.conf his is always on the right .. anyone know where this settings is kept?
[20:32] <dr_willis> mouthwash:  they mean the pak files from a comercial version of the game most likely.
[20:32] <Robbilie> is there a way to get 13.04 for x86?
[20:32] <xangua> lucido: tried to change the data source to yahoo¿ google always gives me trouble
[20:33] <xangua> !13.04 | Robbilie
[20:33] <almoxarife> lucido: which applet did you chose?
[20:33] <lucido> xangua, rtied both
[20:33] <dr_willis> Robbilie:  13.04 should support 32 and 64bit..
[20:33] <lucido> almoxarife, where?
[20:33] <horseatingweeds> dr_willis, so ext3 is better? I just can't remember what I usually use.
[20:33] <queuetip> is there an eta for release date on 13.04 ?
[20:33] <dr_willis> horseatingweeds:  ext4 is the default these days.
[20:33] <dr_willis> Unless you have some specific needs horseatingweeds  i would stick to ext4
[20:33] <mouthwash> dr_willis, i think the game has been made free in the meanwhile, and there is a pak-file specified for just freeware
[20:33] <queuetip> erm, that was worded stupidly, is there a date scheduled for release?
 xangua, I cant even set it up, I chose location then clcik apply and nothing happens <-- that one
[20:34] <Robbilie> i want to install 13.04 on my motorola razr i but i guess i will have to stick with a 12.04 or 12.10 version
[20:34] <lucido> I've been using xfs for 8 years and switched to ext4 due to data corruption
[20:34] <dr_willis> mouthwash:  last i looked the game was open sourced.. but the 'data' files were not.
[20:34] <queuetip> or is it already out?
[20:34] <lucido> almoxarife, indicator-weather
[20:34] <dr_willis> mouthwash:  find a old quake install. or find some open sourced pak files perhaps.
[20:34] <horseatingweeds> dr_willis: Thanks.
[20:34] <Pici> queuetip: Ubuntu version numbers are the YEAR.MONTH of release.
[20:34] <dr_willis> I found allmy old quake/doom disks just the other day. ;)
[20:35] <almoxarife> lucido: do the docs for that applet bring up 'ruby' ?
[20:35] <dr_willis> BRB
[20:35] <Pici> !schedule-#ubuntu+1 | queuetip
[20:36] <Pici> hm
[20:36] <lucido> almoxarife, u mean the man page, no it doesnt
[20:36] <queuetip> Pici: today i learned! thanks
[20:37] <Falados> Is there a good guide for making .deb packages for ubuntu for software that doesnt have make/configure/install - (for instance: tomcat)
[20:37] <Pici> !schedule-#ubuntu+1 | queuetip
[20:39] <queuetip> ubottu: awesome, thanks
[20:39] <lucido> my-weather-indicator is broken too -17C bs
[20:48] <sanchez> Hi I speak spanish I need help
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> !es
[20:54] <norwack> I have an issue with the sound. In skype settings i cant choose my usb headset as the output. It get's trough the computer speakers no matter what. But when i go to youtube, i can hear sound from videos trough my usb headset. I use the gnome classic shell (installed it from software center 2 hours ago). Any ideas?
[20:57] <judas> hi, ctrl-shift-u does not bring up the unicode input, how can i fix that?
[21:10] <xhiku> really??
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> judas  start here, i have no experience with it myself, tho https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey#Unicode_composition
[21:13] <judas> hmm, i only see the part where they talk about the compose key
[21:13] <judas> but i want to enter the hexnumber directly
[21:13] <judas> it worked for me sometime in the past
[21:14] <judas> it has something to do with GTK or XIM
[21:14] <Gwennifer> Uhm, why won't Ubuntu let me go to my desktop's native resolution of 1680x1050?
[21:15] <judas> within 'settings->keyboard->shortcuts' i can't find any option for that
[21:15] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  driver issue. or a monitor EID issue normally
[21:15] <guntbert> !enter | judas
[21:16] <Gwennifer> Okay. How do I fix it? :x
[21:16] <dr_willis> your video chipset is? the driver you are using is?
[21:16] <judas> could i just bind the shortcut to the whatever the system normaly does?
[21:16] <Gwennifer> I don't know what my video chipset is or which driver I'm using
[21:17] <blbe> if anybody is familiar with tiddlywiki and in a good mood, i need help with a function, more info about the problem can be found here -> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/TiddlyWiki/RoQxYQdUeYc
[21:18] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  start with the command -->   lspci | grep VGA
[21:18] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  it should show you what video card you have
[21:18] <Gwennifer> How do I open the terminal in Unity...? the last time I used Ubuntu it had a different setup
[21:19] <dr_willis> click the ubuntu button at type,, type in 'terminal'
[21:19] <woo> Gwennifer: just kit the windows key and type "
[21:19] <john__> clrt-alt-t
[21:19] <dr_willis> !manual | Gwennifer
[21:19] <woo> term"
[21:19] <designbybeck> I've noticed something... When ever I use Kubuntu or LinuxMint Cinnamon, the fonts and screen render sharp and crisp, but my Ubuntu 12.10 is'nt as crisp
[21:19] <designbybeck> why might that be?
[21:20] <woo> !unity | Gwennifer
[21:20] <Gwennifer> wut
[21:20] <dr_willis> theres font antialiasing settings that may be affecting them designbybeck
[21:20] <yoritomo> hello
[21:20] <dr_willis> bot is dead it seems. ;)
[21:20] <woo> !ssh | woo
[21:20] <designbybeck> where might that setting be dr_willis? seems like a lot of tweaking settings have been taken out  in 12.10
[21:20] <yoritomo> anyone usual with ubuntu powerpc here ?
[21:20] <designbybeck> which i think is a good thing overall
[21:21] <Gwennifer> "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)"
[21:21] <dr_willis> designbybeck:  no idea.  theres numerous tweak tools. I tend to just enlarge my fonts :)
[21:21] <Gwennifer> Is that what you wanted?
[21:21] <designbybeck> ;)
[21:21] <designbybeck> ok thanks
[21:21] <yoritomo> soundcard problem and impossible to install medibuntu under Ibook G4
[21:21] <designbybeck> I switched to Kbuntu on my home TV PC because it was easy to large everything
[21:21] <john__> No teaks nneded for intel controller it should just work
[21:21] <designbybeck> made it great for sitting across the room
[21:21] <Gwennifer> It does work, it's just that the max resolution isn't high enough
[21:22] <john__> Now NVIDEA with CUDA, that is another story
[21:22] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  thats what 'you' need to know. ;)  thats about all i can help with the res issue. there may be known iussues with that chipset/card. You may want to check the forums and askubuntu.com to see if theres any known issues with that G31 chipset.
[21:22] <john__> Still can be done but requires custom driver
[21:22] <dr_willis> You may need to alter the xorg.conf file to force the higher res.  Gwennifer . i dont have a monitor that does over 1080p here.
[21:23] <Gwennifer> Dr_Willis guy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is a command I saw on askubuntu, would that work?
[21:23] <dr_willis> I havent even found a monitor locally that goes higher. ;) but im in a small town.
[21:23] <john__> dr_willis, excuse me but that is availabel from the menu
[21:23] <almoxarife> designbybeck: stay with KDE
[21:23] <designbybeck> oh wow, I did ubuntu tweak...font hinting, much better!
[21:23] <Gwennifer> well, the resolution I need to get to is 1680x1050
[21:23] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  thats an old command i belive.  it may not work these days.
[21:24] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  theres the xrandr tools that may let you change the res. and there is that monitors/displays tool in the settings
[21:24] <dr_willis> !xrandr
[21:24] <designbybeck> I do really like KDE almoxarife just find it has to many features... it OS always seems to be there , where as Unity gets out of my way
[21:24] <dr_willis> doh.. ubotu is gond.
[21:24] <dr_willis> back. ;)
[21:24] <john__> Go to syetem settings and select resolution in display
[21:24] <dr_willis> !fixres
[21:24] <Gwennifer> what ;~;
[21:24] <woo> !lts | woo
[21:25] <john__> Bad idea
[21:25] <almoxarife> designbybeck: you can have a blank slate with kde as well as any other desktop, but one has to use what is comfortable, on a home pc, is that entertainment PC?
[21:25] <john__> X systems files is so 1980's
[21:26] <judas> 'im-switch' seems to be the program i was looking for
[21:26] <Gwennifer> Okay
[21:26] <woo> no pm for botz
[21:26] <Gwennifer> so what do I do
[21:26] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  you could install the arandr tool and see what res's it shows as seen.
[21:26] <dr_willis>  sudo apt-get install arandr
[21:26] <dr_willis> then run 'arandr'
[21:26] <john__> Go to system settings and select display
[21:26] <designbybeck> almoxarife:  just a basic box hooked to a 42" TV, I use a wireless keyboard and mouse from my bed about 15 feet away
[21:26] <Gwennifer> my resolution isn't there, John
[21:27] <john__> Gwennifer, What is your resoulution/monitor?
[21:27] <Gwennifer> 1680x1050, the monitor came with my dell
[21:27] <almoxarife> designbybeck: sort of same setup for me in living room, although the desktop on it is XBMC
[21:27] <john__> Gwennifer, same as mine
[21:28] <Gwennifer> How do I run arandr?
[21:28] <designbybeck> I hadn't tried XBMC yet almoxarife... I do do some standard desktop stuff and graphics on that system as well
[21:28] <dr_willis> then run 'arandr'    thats the command....
[21:28] <dr_willis> its very likely arandr will show the same res's as the other tools.
[21:29] <almoxarife> designbybeck: the font/graphics are made for a homepc aprox 5-7 feet away
[21:29] <john__> Gwennifer, what? What graphics card are you using?
[21:29] <woo> Gwennifer: "Alt+F2" opens run prompt
[21:29] <designbybeck> ah that is cool to know
[21:29] <designbybeck> I've liked what I did see
[21:29] <dr_willis> Gwennife+| "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[21:30] <dr_willis> john__:  a G31 intel it seems
[21:30] <Gwennifer> Same resolutions, but that tool seems kind of handy for multiple displays :o
[21:30] <john__> Gwennifer, So the basic Intel on board. Fine then It SHOULD just work
[21:30] <Brigo> hi, i just upgraded to 12.04, and wifi go down. I can see the interface, wlan0, but i cant see any aps ...
[21:30] <Gwennifer> But it's not working
[21:31] <john__> Gwennifer, backup and reinstall
[21:31] <Gwennifer> reinstall?
[21:31] <john__> Gwennifer, reinstall
[21:31] <Gwennifer> reinstall what?
[21:32] <dr_willis> I doubt if reinstalling will 'fix' anything
[21:32] <almoxarife> Gwennifer: what resolution do you believe you should be able to use?
[21:32] <designbybeck> what is ubuntu offtopic
[21:32] <designbybeck> #ubuntu-offtopic?
[21:32] <dr_willis> Gwennifer: what ubuntu version are you using exactly?
[21:32] <Gwennifer> 1680x1050 is the native resolution for my monitor
[21:32] <designbybeck> !offtopic
[21:32] <john__> Gwennifer, It is not as scary at it seems if you have backed up you data first
[21:32] <designbybeck> hmmmm
[21:32] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  this is a laptop? or desktop? how old is it?
[21:32] <Gwennifer> John, why would reinstalling help? I just installed this less than an hour ago
[21:32] <phunyguy_t430s> halp! I am trying out Pidgin, and when I was at work, google talk as well as Facebook IM (both XMPP) connected just fine, but at home, I get "Server does use any supported authentication method" for both, and AIM connects just fine.
[21:32] <Gwennifer> wouldn't I be putting the same wrong files back in?
[21:32] <phunyguy_t430s> I dont have any outgoing firewall either
[21:32] <Gwennifer> it's a desktop, uhm...dunno, it's a dell inspiron 530
[21:33] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  you have done a update/upgrade since you have installed? it could be a known bug thats fixed up a update
[21:33] <fr0ggie> Im having a problem building the motion package-- * libavcodec.a or libavcodec.so or           *
[21:33] <fr0ggie> * libavformat.a or libavformat.so not found: *
[21:33] <fr0ggie> What do i need to install on 12.04 to get ffmpeg development stuff?
[21:33] <phunyguy_t430s> !info libav-dev
[21:33] <Jordan_U> fr0ggie: apt-get build-deb ffmpeg
[21:34] <dr_willis> fr0ggie:  the apt system has a 'build-deps' option to pull in needed dev packages. and theres the build-essential package also
[21:34] <dr_willis> build-dep is very very handy ;P
[21:34] <john__>  Intel 82852/82855 Graphics Controller-0 (up to 64MB-shared)
[21:34] <Gwennifer> I don't believe so, Dr. Willis. But the installer did pull some files from the web
[21:34] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  id start with a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' from the terminal and make sure the systemis all up to date.
[21:34] <phunyguy_t430s> was a guess.
[21:35] <john__> Gwennifer, reinstall
[21:35] <fr0ggie> oh no, that wants to remove jackd
[21:35]  * dr_willis has no idea why john__  has a reinstall fetish.
[21:35] <john__> Sorry but ubuntu SHOUL be aware of your system
[21:36] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  when you did install.. did you notice if the livecd had the proper res?
[21:36] <Gwennifer> Uhm, I wasn't sure if it did or not
[21:36] <john__> Of course try going into settings and try display.
[21:37] <john__> I was assuming that failed.
[21:37] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  then i would suggest doing the update/upgrade mentioned earlier (you might need to reboot afterwards) then  check the display settings, then check that arandr command..
[21:38] <MASS_HYPNOSIS> #GURUPI
[21:38] <MASS_HYPNOSIS> # GURUPI
[21:38] <almoxarife> Gwennifer: i had a like issue, everything led me to believe i should be able to have 1600x900 , but i didnt see it avail, via this link i was able to do it, worked well for me, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[21:38] <fr0ggie> did apt-get build-dep ffmpeg -- still getting a missing avcodec/avformat
[21:38] <goddard> can you tell me how to open looking glass for gnome shell?
[21:38] <phunyguy_t430s> MASS_HYPNOSIS, the command is /join #gurupi
[21:38] <phunyguy_t430s> if that is what you are trying to do
[21:39] <guntbert> john__: please don't blindly suggest "reinstall" if there is no history of having borked the running system - it will not help
[21:39] <john__> guntbert, It has worked for me.
[21:39] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  the xrandr command can 'force' a res/ but i havent used it enough to know its syntax. im looking at askubuntu.com  under resolution issues
[21:40] <guntbert> !worksforme | john__
[21:40] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  its a little bit over your head but heres somthing to bookmark ->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[21:41] <john__> guntbert, Look I have been using UNIX systems for 30 years. And driver problems are about the worst as they affect v
[21:41] <john__> everything
[21:41] <Gwennifer> okay, thanks almo/willis, but what do I do about it now?
[21:42] <fr0ggie> :(
[21:42] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  do the update/upgrade since anyone else helping will suggest that first.. then try the  settings/arandr tool
[21:42] <guntbert> john__: lets drop that - we don't want to make comparisons :-)  I only was worried about your insistance for reinstallation of a freshly installed system
[21:44] <dr_willis> it may be worth while to boot a live cd/usb and check what res its using however. If the cd/live usb IS using the proper res. well.. that would be an interesting fact.
[21:46] <Gwennifer> how would I check the resolution using the live usb?
[21:46] <Gwennifer> I'm using the 64-bit desktop version of 12.10, does that change anything?
[21:46] <dr_willis> boot the live usb, use that settings/monitors tool
[21:46] <dr_willis> 64 vs 32bit shouldent matter
[21:47] <ahmet> perl dc.pl 77.77.564.33 80 how is bacconect ?
[21:47] <paris> When I dial  # on gmail pad, and press call, google voice call do not ring. Why?
[21:47] <woo> exit
[21:47] <Gwennifer> I mean, the live USB just takes me to the installer IIRC
[21:47] <guntbert> dr_willis: you wisely said "should" instead of "will"  :-))
[21:49] <anonymous> hi
[21:53] <guest12> Hi everyone!
[21:53] <guntbert> Gwennifer: no, the live usb lets you "try it out" - which gives you a running system
[21:53] <Gwennifer> okay, be back in a bit
[21:54] <phunyguy_t430s> argh! what in the world is going on here? Pidgin refuses to connect to XMPP servers at home.  I even rebooted my router to be sure, and there is no outgoing firewall on my end of the wall jack...
[21:55] <paris> which program is easy to use to download youtube on google chrome?
[21:55] <phunyguy_t430s> paris, do you mean Chromium? or the actual Google Chrome browser?
[21:56] <phunyguy_t430s> and define "download youtube"
[21:56] <paris> Google chrome browser
[21:56] <guest12> I installed ubuntu 64bit successfully on my computer, thank you very much!
[21:57] <phunyguy_t430s> are you having issues playing videos? or are you trying to rip content, paris?
[21:58] <guest12> My ubuntu is up-to-date? Yes.
[21:59] <phunyguy_t430s> paris...?
[21:59] <Altair> 3. I'm running data recovery software on an image from a seperate HDD, although I'm using the same drive I'm extracting with as the place where the recovered data goes to. Is that okay because I'm using an image of a seperate disk? Or does one need to have two seperate drives (one for extracting one for receiving the data) through a medium like a Live CD?
[21:59] <paris> no, I can play. What I mean is to download some youtube file for later revew.
[22:00] <phunyguy_t430s> hmm... paris, I think this may be one of those "gray areas"... isn't that copyright violation?
[22:00] <guest12> I don't download youtube files, because I don't know how to do it :)
[22:02] <paris> hmm, I don't know I am not very intelectual in us law. IF, be it, or some other program on linux zorin?
[22:03] <phunyguy_t430s> paris, are they your videos? or videos you have rights to?
[22:03] <Altair> I'm running data recovery software on an image from a seperate HDD, although I'm using the same drive I'm extracting with as the place where the recovered data goes to. Is that okay because I'm using an image of a seperate disk? Or does one need to have two seperate drives (one for extracting one for receiving the data) through a medium like a Live CD?
[22:03] <ubunturos> ubuntunag: Hey hi there, you have joined IRC recently?
[22:03] <phunyguy_t430s> !patience | Altair
[22:04] <ubuntuang> ubunturos: Hi, yes i joined recently today
[22:04] <paris> Maybe, I didn't express myself well, Let say I would like to download youtube video as how put tile on the floor.
[22:04] <phunyguy_t430s> hmmm... not sure if bot or....
[22:05] <phunyguy_t430s> paris, I got confirmation that it is probably OK, however I am not aware of software that can do it.  Lurk in the channel for a bit to see if anyone else can help
[22:05] <xangua> paris: i imagin there are several addons for chrome to do that
[22:05] <Altair> phunyguy_t430s: LOL can you see what I'm typing?
[22:06] <phunyguy_t430s> Altair, yes both times.
[22:06] <Altair> phunyguy_t430s: that's kind of creepy haha
[22:06] <paris> Big thanks for your help!
[22:06] <phunyguy_t430s> How is that vreepy?
[22:06] <phunyguy_t430s> creept*
[22:06] <phunyguy_t430s> argh.
[22:06] <guest12> I'm leavning room now, chat again soon!
[22:07] <Altair> phunyguy_t430s: that you can see what I'm typing before I press enter?
[22:07] <Altair> I don't know, it just feels violating...
[22:07] <phunyguy_t430s> Altair, you posted it twice.
[22:07] <phunyguy_t430s> that is why I said !patience, you asked very quickly before the previous one rolled off the screen for me.
[22:08] <Altair> phunyguy_t430s: Oh, ha we are having a miscommunication here. Nevermind it. The reason why I posted it twice was for new users to see it
[22:08] <phunyguy_t430s> Altair, fair enough, but please refrain from doing that in the future.
[22:08] <phunyguy_t430s> there are 1720 users in here.
[22:08] <Altair> phunyguy_t430s: surely one of them knows the answer to my question and are just AFK
[22:09] <phunyguy_t430s> Altair, yes, but it doesn't help to keep posting every 2minutes.
[22:09] <d3vlin> Does anyone have a clue why the lightdm session chooser disappears when I have a xsession that has Exec=/home/user/somescript instead of Exec=someapplication ?
[22:09] <Altair> that's why I want to multipost my question, so that they might be able to see it.
[22:09] <Googol30> Quick question; if I want to make the message that appears when I log in to Ubuntu Server 12.04, how do I do that on command, without logging out then back in?
[22:09] <Altair> phunyguy: every 5 then?
[22:10] <Altair> phunyguy_t430s:*
[22:10] <phunyguy_t430s> Altair, guideline says 5-10 minutes.  http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[22:11] <d3vlin> for clearance; I am trying my XBMC.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions to start a script instead of xbmc-standalone
[22:11] <noobatlife> OK how do you remove programs hat you have compiled with Cmake?
[22:11] <noobatlife> that
[22:11] <Altair> phunyguy_t430s: Good guess on my part then. How long's it been since my last entry?
[22:11] <noobatlife> I installed Sigil Source files using Cmake
[22:11] <noobatlife> But I am unable to remove the program
[22:12] <phunyguy_t430s> Altair, go for it.  :)
[22:12] <wiggmpk> Is a special package required to have "Me Menu/status" functionality with pidgin?
[22:12] <Altair> I'm running data recovery software on an image from a seperate HDD, although I'm using the same drive I'm extracting with as the place where the recovered data goes to. Is that okay because I'm using an image of a seperate disk? Or does one need to have two seperate drives (one for extracting one for receiving the data) through a medium like a Live CD?
[22:12] <phunyguy_t430s> but remember if nobody knows the answer, they won't answer.
[22:12] <juanpepe> list
[22:12] <phunyguy_t430s> with that being said, Altair, it depends on how your disk is laid out, or what you are trying to recover
[22:13] <Altair> phunyguy_t430s: Pretty much everything out of the 484 gigs is what I'm trying to recover. What do you mean how it's laid out? How it'
[22:13] <Altair> s partitioned?
[22:13] <noobatlife> OK how do you remove programs hat you have compiled with Cmake?
[22:13] <noobatlife> that
[22:13] <paris> Just a thought for my problem, how to make an exception(hole) in google (chrome) gmail for voice to go through it?
[22:14] <phunyguy_t430s> !recover | Altair
[22:14] <noobatlife> How do you remove programs uilt from surce code?
[22:14] <phunyguy_t430s> some good info in those links
[22:14] <phunyguy_t430s> paris, probbly best to ask Google for support on that one
[22:14] <phunyguy_t430s> I am fairly certain it isn't supported officially.
[22:14] <noobatlife> How do you remove programs built by Cmake?
[22:14] <phunyguy_t430s> (not here anyway)
[22:15] <phunyguy_t430s> !patience noobatlife
[22:15] <ubuntuang> ubunturos: Hey, you are there?
[22:15] <noobatlife> sorry
[22:15] <phunyguy_t430s> !patience | noobatlife
[22:15] <ubunturos> ubuntuang: Yes, I'm am around
[22:15] <noobatlife> ok thx
[22:16] <paris> Ok, Maybe I can figure out the phone to google, and tomorrow I will ring to it.
[22:16] <noobatlife> I will see what the forums can do for me
[22:16] <noobatlife> thank you ubottu
[22:16] <Altair> phunyguy_t430s: thanks for the links, but in the past 2 weeks I've been working on this, I've seen it plenty of times. The question I'm asking needs a more specific answer than what those links provide. Thanks though :)
[22:16] <phunyguy_t430s> !bot | noobatlife
[22:16] <noobatlife> lol
[22:16] <noobatlife> Would you look at that
[22:18] <paris> Thanks folks, it's time for me to get lost. Again big thanks for your help.
[22:20] <Altair> I'm running data recovery software on an image from a seperate internal HDD. The image from the internal HDD is on the same external HDD I'm trying to recover the data to. Do I now need a seperate HDD to recover the data from that external HDD? Or can I extract the image to the same HDD it's stored on?
[22:21] <leo__> hi
[22:22] <Altair> leo_:hi
[22:24] <ubunturos> ubuntuang: You've got registered now?
[22:27] <ces> how do i encrypt my home folder after installing 12.10
[22:28] <Altair> I want to photorec on an image from a seperate internal HDD. The image from the internal HDD is on the same external HDD I'm trying to recover the files to.
[22:28] <Altair> Is this okay, or do I need ANOTHER seperate HDD to recover the image to?
[22:29] <noobatlife> No I am sorry but the documentation is totally irrelevant to  the problem I have
[22:30] <noobatlife> I will try and do some searching around on the internet
[22:30] <ces> it depends if the image is of a hard disk or partition
[22:30] <Altair> ces: it's of an entire hard disk
[22:31] <ces> then u need a separate hd
[22:32] <Altair> ces: can I recover it BACK to the original internal HDD (it's totally ok physically, the filesystem is just messed up
[22:32] <Jordan_U> Altair: No, you do not need another drive.
[22:32] <Altair> Wait what?
[22:32] <Altair> Now I have conflicting viewpoints
[22:32] <ubunturos> !backup
[22:33] <ces> yes but u will lose every thing on the disk
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Altair: ces is either mistaken or I have misunderstood the question, but there should be no problem with recovering files from an image and storing those files on the same drive which contains that image (as a file).
[22:33] <ubunturos> !nagios
[22:34] <Jordan_U> ces: You don't need to write the image to the drive to get files off it, it can stay a file in the filesystem.
[22:34] <iKrzysiek> Can someone join #humanitee and help my frond - marahin with his VPS on Ubuntu?
[22:34] <iKrzysiek> Friend*
[22:35] <iKrzysiek> Please
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Altair: Photorec should be able to extract the files, and I hope that you've already tried fsck to fix the filesystem (which will, if successfull, do a much better job of making all the files accessible, and with all their file names intact, than just using photorec).
[22:36] <Altair> Jordan_U: Okay good. That ties into another question. Will there be both the image file and all the space it takes up, along with the data you recovered from it as a seperate file? So say you have a 500 gig image and you recover it, will there be both the 500 gig image and a seperate recovered file around the same size?
[22:36] <Altair> Jordan_U I haven
[22:37] <Altair> Jordan_U: I haven't tried fsck. What I have tried and was successful at was repairing the boot sectors and mft and ran chkdsk. Windows 7 still wont boot so I gave up and am trying data recovery
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Altair: Then that is the first thing I would do. Can you pastebin the output of "parted /path/to/disk.img p"?
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Altair: Ahh, I didn't realize that it was ntfs.
[22:38] <Jordan_U> Altair: There is no real fsck for ntfs available for GNU/Linux, only Windows' checkdisk.
[22:38] <Altair> Jordan_U: Well it didn't work, so I'm assuming the only option I have now is data recovery...
[22:39] <Altair> Jordan_U: and yes sorry I forgot to mention it was nfts
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Altair: Yes, that's probably true. Did chkdsk recognise that it was ntfs? Do you know how exactly the filesystem became corrupt?
[22:40] <Jordan_U> Altair: If chkdsk didn't recognise it as ntfs at all, it may simply be that your partition table is corrupt and isn't pointing to the right point on disk for the start of the ntfs filesystem (in which case testdisk might be able to repair the partition table, making the fileystem accessible again).
[22:40] <ces> well i don't know photorec but images are a snapshots of a drive and not file level backup/restore
[22:42] <depasu> selamlar
[22:42] <depasu> kimse yokmu
[22:42] <Altair> Jordan_U: yeah I saw in windows repair mode it said it couldn't fix it because of a corrupt registry
[22:42] <escott> ces, photorec just searches the raw contents for JPEG contents (mostly on the assumption that the blocks of JPEG contents will be aligned in an extent)
[22:42] <Jordan_U> ces: Photorec basically greps a device (or an image of a device) for headers and otehr charicteristic byte sequences of various file types and tries to recovery the entire file. On filesystem that are not to corrupt to be mounted you can also loop mount the image without first writing it to an actual device, allowing you to access the files.
[22:42] <depasu> türk yokmu len
[22:42] <depasu> ?
[22:42] <depasu> soru sorcaz :)
[22:43] <noobatlife> Ok  can i delete individual files of a source code program  from my system?
[22:43] <noobatlife> If i build a source code program using ./configure, make and make install
[22:43] <noobatlife> When i try to remove it it cant find the directory or some bollocks
[22:43] <Jordan_U> noobatlife:  What is your end goal?
[22:43] <noobatlife> Can i just look for the files that it has scattered
[22:43] <noobatlife> and just delete them
[22:43] <Altair> Jordan_U:I was able to loopmount my drive with testdisk, but it didn't show me all of my files, so now I want to run photorec on an Image.dd file testdisk made to see if I can get them all back
[22:44] <escott> noobatlife, you should "make uninstall" and then do it properly with ./configure --prefix=/usr/local and checkinstall
[22:44] <escott> noobatlife, if you remove the build directory now you will never be able to remove the program properly
[22:44] <Altair> Jordan_U: Anyways now that you know the image.dd file I was talking about is actually NTFS does that change anything pertaining to my original question?
[22:45] <Jordan_U> Altair: That should work fine then.
[22:45] <noobatlife> But i cannot remove the program with Cmake
[22:45] <noobatlife> It keeps saying that it cannot find the file or directory even when i cd to the folder using the terminal
[22:45] <noobatlife> I used Cmake to install a source code version of Sigil on my computer
[22:46] <noobatlife> Now i cannot remove it
[22:46] <Jordan_U> Altair: No, the only thing it affected was whether you used Windows or GNU/Linux to try to repair the filesystem as a first step, since you have tried to repair the filesystem (and it failed) the fact that it's ntfs doesn't really change anything else about the process of recovering files (and again, you can recover the files to the same drive as contains the image).
[22:47] <noobatlife> The reason why  i installed the source version was because the debian packages were obsolete for linux
[22:47] <noobatlife> Sigil is a WYSIWYG EPUB editor
[22:47] <noobatlife> I was trying to get the latest version on my system
[22:47] <Altair> Jordan_U: Thank you man. You've been a great help.
[22:48] <escott> noobatlife, thats going to give you big headaches when the debian packages get updated
[22:48] <noobatlife> Well i should have known before i messed around in the terminal
[22:48] <noobatlife> So i guess i deserve this
[22:48] <noobatlife> for experimenting
[22:48] <noobatlife> At least i learn something
[22:48] <noobatlife> Just stick to debian packages
[22:48] <Jordan_U> Altair: As for how much space that will require, that will depend on how full the filesystem was/is and how many of the files photorec can recover, but as the image file contains many unused bytes whatever the amount recovered, it will in total be less than the size of the image (and likely signifigantly less).
[22:48] <noobatlife> evne if they are ancient
[22:48] <escott> noobatlife, the proper way to build stuff for your own use is to use checkinstall and a --prefix on configure to put it in /usr/local instead of /usr
[22:49] <Jordan_U> Altair: You're welcome.
[22:49] <noobatlife> I discovered checkinstall when it was too late
[22:49] <noobatlife> the deed has already been done
[22:49] <noobatlife> Cmake did some things
[22:49] <noobatlife> scattered Sigil all over the fiel system
[22:49] <noobatlife> file
[22:50] <Jordan_U> noobatlife: Have you tried "make uninstall" in the source tree?
[22:50] <noobatlife> yes
[22:50] <Jordan_U> noobatlife: What was the output of that command?
[22:50] <noobatlife> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[22:50] <Altair> Jordan_U: The filesystem was almost to the brim full (484gb out of 500) but the HDD passed memory and hardware diagnostics just fine so i don't think there is anything wrong with the data, I think it was just the filesystem that's corrupt.
[22:51] <Altair> Altair: Since that's the case, if photorec was able to recover all the data to the same drive where the image is (484gb on a 1 tb drive) would that mean my 1tb drive would be almost completely full?
[22:53] <noobatlife> Tell me something..
[22:53] <Jordan_U> Altair: Yes.
[22:53] <noobatlife> Why  am i getting this error? make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[22:53] <noobatlife> Is it because it doesnt know how to uninstall?
[22:54] <esing> Hello
[22:54] <Jordan_U> noobatlife: Try asking in the channel of whatever project you built, or look again at the README / INSTALL file and see if there are uninstallation instructions.
[22:54] <esing> Can I drag the taskbar in Cinnamon to the left?
[22:54] <noobatlife> There are no uninstallation instructions Jordan
[22:54] <noobatlife> I have looked everywhere on Cmake site
[22:54] <noobatlife> and the Sigil website
[22:55] <escott> noobatlife, he may not have defined an uninstall target
[22:55] <noobatlife> It seems as if that is the problem
[22:55] <noobatlife> escott
[22:55] <noobatlife> So how do you define it?
[22:55] <escott> noobatlife, you have to know the answer before you can do that. ie you have to know what files it creates in order to know what files to remove
[22:56] <noobatlife> oh
[22:56] <noobatlife> there is a text file
[22:56] <noobatlife> in the folder
[22:56] <noobatlife> it is called install_manifest.txt
[22:56] <noobatlife> i see some locations
[22:56] <noobatlife> in it
[22:56] <noobatlife> of sigil
[22:57] <noobatlife> SO i  think i know where it puts the files
[22:57] <Googol30> Seeing as seemingly noone has answered my question from earlier, how do you make Ubuntu Server 12.04 show the (status) message when you log in?
[22:57] <escott> Googol30, motd?
[22:58] <jrib> Googol30: man update-motd
[22:58] <Jordan_U> noobatlife: It looks like Sigil defaults to a prefix of /usr/local/, which should make its files easy to find (especially if it's the only software you've installed from source).
[22:58] <jrib> Googol30: my *guess* is that you are seeing the output of « landscape-sysinfo » but if you explore how your motd is being generating you can find a definitive answer
[22:59] <noobatlife> that is the case
[22:59] <noobatlife> Exactly that Jordan
[23:00] <noobatlife> Its the only software i ahve installed from source
[23:00] <noobatlife> I see the bianry for sigil in /usr/local/bin
[23:00] <noobatlife> binary
[23:01] <baconbacon123> is there a arm version for kindle 3 like debian
[23:05] <Googol30> I've always wondered; what do the numbers in parenthesis after package names(?) mean?
[23:05] <noobatlife> Can i just manually delete Sigil's files where make install is putting them into?
[23:05] <escott> noobatlife, if you are confident that there wasn't anything there before make install put the sigil files in those locations
[23:06] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[23:06] <Wiz_KeeD> if i have just unrared a .rar archive in ubuntu (done so using unrar and unnrar x file.rar)
[23:06] <escott> noobatlife, it would be a good idea to check each location with dpkg -L for each file you plan to remove
[23:06] <Wiz_KeeD> and the structure of the unrared folder is exact to the structure of a web platform such as
[23:06] <rlsj99> Wiz_KeeD: Hi, what's up?
[23:06] <noobatlife> ok
[23:07] <Wiz_KeeD> app/code/theme/file  /var/www/magento/app/code/theme/
[23:07] <Wiz_KeeD> hello rlsj99 !
[23:07] <Wiz_KeeD> is there any way i can basically copy all the contents from one place to another
[23:07] <Wiz_KeeD> without moving each individual file?
[23:07] <rlsj99> Wiz_KeeD: Using what software?
[23:07] <Wiz_KeeD> just the terminal rlsj99
[23:07] <escott> Wiz_KeeD, cp -r
[23:08] <Wiz_KeeD> if i use filezilla, upon upload in the root folder
[23:08] <Wiz_KeeD> it just recognises the directory structure and places content in there as it drills down
[23:08] <rlsj99> Wiz_KeeD:  All on your home machine or from one machine to another?
[23:08] <Wiz_KeeD> so if if have app/code/bla/bla
[23:08] <Wiz_KeeD> on my home machine on itself
[23:09] <noobatlife> Ok you know what
[23:09] <Wiz_KeeD> i got in /home/wiz/unrared and /var/www/magento where i want to place
[23:09] <Wiz_KeeD> the resulting files
[23:09] <noobatlife> I am just goign to leave it
[23:09] <rlsj99> Wiz_KeeD: Then the cp (copy) command is what you need.
[23:09] <noobatlife> and get the old debian package
[23:09] <Wiz_KeeD> is that all it takes rlsj99 ?
[23:09] <noobatlife> This is really getting more and more complex
[23:09] <noobatlife> but thx for your help anyway
[23:09] <Wiz_KeeD> so i have app and skin directories which exist in the root document of /var/www/magento
[23:10] <Wiz_KeeD> cp unrar/* /var/www/magento -R ?
[23:10] <Wiz_KeeD> escott, you said use -r?
[23:10] <rlsj99> Wiz_KeeD: Of course there are lots of options and dependencies, but if you only want to make a copy of files, say having john in their name, you wirte "cp *john* <directory name or .>
[23:10] <Googol30> Can anyone give me a quick summary of the colors that result from running "ls", or do I have to read through "info coreutils 'ls invocation'"?
[23:11] <escott> Wiz_KeeD,   -R, -r, --recursive          copy directories recursively
[23:11] <Wiz_KeeD> it will not delete/overwrite anything since there are no exact matching files right?
[23:11] <Wiz_KeeD> -r == -R ?
[23:11] <Wiz_KeeD> sooo
[23:11] <Wiz_KeeD> root@wizserver:/home/wiz/Downloads/hellomagento/hellomagento/Magento 1.7/v2# cp theme/* /var/www/ -r
[23:11] <Wiz_KeeD> should i? :))
[23:12] <rlsj99> Wiz_KeeD: cp will overwrite everything with the same name.  You should check first if that's not desired.
[23:12] <Wiz_KeeD> inside theme/ there is app and skin directories which both exist in /var/www
[23:12] <escott> Wiz_KeeD, i suggest you look for "no clobber" in "man cp"
[23:12] <Wiz_KeeD> that's ok there are no matching names
[23:12] <rlsj99> Wiz_KeeD: Then what's the problem?
[23:12] <Wiz_KeeD> i've done this before with filezilla and it would have asked for replace if that was the case
[23:12] <Wiz_KeeD> idk, just checking with you guys
[23:12] <Wiz_KeeD> should i hit enter? XD
[23:12] <Wiz_KeeD> DD push D button? :O
[23:13] <escott> Wiz_KeeD, options should come at the beginning of the cp command
[23:13] <Wiz_KeeD> works this way too i think
[23:14] <Wiz_KeeD> i think it worked
[23:14] <Wiz_KeeD> so it's just a copy function
[23:15] <userZ> sound file, open with, other, where is vlc located?
[23:16] <Wiz_KeeD> working like a peach, thank guys!
[23:16] <lokizzzle> hello, i am havnig some eth/wifi driver issues in ubuntu 12.04. any experts here?
[23:21] <GotSanity> When transfering files to a usb flash drive I am running into seriously slow speeds in comparison to the same drive/port under windows. Can anyone help point me in the right direction to get it fixed?
[23:21] <Ben64> GotSanity: what filesystem
[23:21] <GotSanity> Ben64, vfat i believe
[23:22] <Ben64> use "mount" while it's mounted to check
[23:22] <Ben64> ntfs has slower speeds under linux
[23:23] <GotSanity> Ben64, its vfat
[23:23] <Ben64> how do you know the speeds are slower
[23:24] <Guest21395> hi
[23:24] <GotSanity> Ben64, transfering same files takes upwards of twice as long to write to the drive. under ubuntu it will transfer (pretty fast) to ~95% and then seems to stop and wait for it to catch up
[23:25] <sha0coder> hi
[23:25] <sha0coder> maybe this can be useful for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1DwHIhnj6c
[23:26] <Ben64> sha0coder: no. don't spam stuff like that here
[23:26] <sha0coder> oks Ben64
[23:28] <escott> GotSanity, probably not syncronous writes. you are probably just seeing the write buffer
[23:30] <GotSanity> escott, would that hold back write performance?
[23:32] <shwouchk> hello
[23:33] <escott> GotSanity, im saying its not hitting disk. you start the write and the first 95% fits within the buffer, the remaining 5% has to wait for the first 5% to clear and make space in the write buffer
[23:33] <fluffy> Has anyone dealt with arcmsr.ko drivers on ubuntu 12.10 x86_64?
[23:34] <shwouchk> I had a small mess with apt-get when I wanted to remove KDE that I have installed, and apparently I removed the wrong package - I now cannot boot because my entire hard disk is encrypted. I have a livecd available. Any tips on what I need to install back?
[23:34] <kvothetech> shwouchk: what's it encrypted with?
[23:34] <kvothetech> shwouchk: dmcrypt? truecrypt?
[23:35] <shwouchk> kvothetech, what 12.10 encrypts with by default for whole drive... I think LUKS
[23:35] <rsumi_werk> I have this chat window opened in my 1st workspace (unity) and my browser is in my 2nd workspace. when I click on a link, the launchbar shows google chrome popup to alert me that it opened the browser tab there but stays in my current workspace. is there a way to have unity jump to the correct workspace when clicking on the link?
[23:38] <kvothetech> shwouchk: hm installing the packages for it would be a good start then.
[23:39] <shwouchk> kvothetech, the entire question is how to do it correctly when I cannot boot to the host system
[23:40] <arthusice> does anyone have experience with the raid driver arcmsr on 64bit 12.10?
[23:40] <kvothetech> shwouchk: chroot from the livecd
[23:40] <shwouchk> kvothetech, I just found out however that I can boot with an older kernel. Seems like simething is wrong with the current one
[23:40] <kvothetech> the livecd should have the luks stuff withit
[23:40] <kvothetech> oh
[23:40] <kvothetech> in that case the encryption has nothing to do with it
[23:41] <shwouchk> kvothetech,maybe the correct module was not put into initramfs?
[23:41] <arthusice> hello?
[23:41] <Personify> I have Ubuntu installed to a usb thumb drive. When I update the OS on the thumb drive, does the update preside or stay after restarting or shutting down and coming back to it at a later time? Still n00bish here, thanks for understanding.
[23:41] <dr_willis> !patience | arthusice
[23:48] <shwouchk> kvothetech, indeed after  I installed the correct cryptsetup and ecryptfs-tools, a new initrd image was created automatically and I was able to boot with the new kernel
[23:48] <kvothetech> shwouchk: lol there you go
[23:50] <donnie> Having trouble booting from live CD (Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit). Invalid Elf Image???
[23:51] <ScottJensen> donnie: it isn't christmas yet, santa and the elves are not here yet.
[23:51] <donnie> Valid after Christmas huh? lol.... Good one.
[23:52] <ScottJensen> sorry, I can't help :(
[23:52] <pucix> where is a more complete quickly guide
[23:53] <Studentas1003> asd
[23:53] <donnie> The 32-bit version works perfectly. I just can get the 64-bit version to work.
[23:53] <ScottJensen> does your cpu support PAE?
[23:53] <donnie> Should I try Ubuntu Secure Remix???
[23:53] <ScottJensen> grep --color=always -i PAE /proc/cpuinfo
[23:54] <pucix> is there an ubhan?untu prog c
[23:55] <pucix> is there an ubuntu proggramming channel?
[23:56] <ScottJensen> #ubuntu-devel?
[23:56] <jrib> pucix: #ubuntu-programming
[23:57] <pucix> :) of course
[23:57] <Studentas1003> :)