[00:44] <versailles> hi, i'm new to xubuntu, anyone can recommend me with any scp/sftp client like winscp ?
[00:46] <versailles> o never mind, gftp good enough :D
[03:06] <xubuntu508> flash
[08:08] <YaN> Please , say me system requriments to xubuntu and(or) ubuntu?
[10:53] <VividReality> Good morning.
[10:54] <VividReality> I am trying to use my midi keyboard with lmms, is this possible? I don't know where to start.
[10:55] <VividReality> The problem is that it doesn't show up in the devices list.
[10:56] <VividReality> Is there a list with connected hardware somewhere? I am wondering if Xubuntu sees it at all.
[11:03] <VividReality> Ah, they do not support linux. Time to buy a different keyboard then....
[11:13] <Zelouille> VividReality, If you're using Jack server (jackd), you can probably do this within the Jack control window (qjackctl)
[11:34] <Zelouille> patchage seems to work without jackd : http://drobilla.net/software/patchage/
[12:44] <rhin0> where are panel applets located
[13:47] <salepetronije> Hello. I worked on the translation xfce 4:10 in Serbian. Translation not included upstream. Because we were late. Is it possible to pack the Serbian in Xubuntu? I'll give links to transifx xfce where the officially unofficial translation, if it is possible to do.
[13:49] <salepetronije> https://translations.xfce.org/languages/l/sr/
[13:55] <GridCube> salepetronije, please ask on #xubuntu-devel
[13:58] <salepetronije> thank you
[14:31] <webmind> hiya
[14:31] <webmind> I've got an odd problem
[14:32] <webmind> If I run crossoveroffice + office 2010 on XFCE, I get focus problems and the mouse often stops responding
[14:32] <webmind> neither can I then click on the panel
[14:32] <webmind> sadly enough it doesn't get more exacter then that
[14:32] <TheSheep> we don't support microsoft software :(
[14:32] <webmind> but this does not happen lxde
[14:33] <webmind> TheSheep, considering it only happens xfce it might not be a microsoft issue
[14:33] <webmind> and I do asume people want to fix anything that's broken if it's in xfce?
[14:33] <TheSheep> webmind: you can try changing the "draw overlay windows directly" option in the compositor tab in the window manager tweaks
[14:34] <TheSheep> webmind: and see if that helps
[14:34] <webmind> "display fullscreen overlay windows directly" <- that one?
[14:34] <TheSheep> webmind: yes
[14:35] <webmind> testing
[14:35] <webmind> woohoo
[14:35] <webmind> that seems to fix it
[14:35] <TheSheep> excellent
[14:35] <webmind> thnx!
[14:47] <webmind> TheSheep, is the option called 'unredirect_overlays' ?
[14:47] <webmind> yep, looks like it.
[14:47] <webmind> good
[15:07] <Fieldy> hello, what's the proper way to have an iptables command executed after the network interface(s) are up and after the rest of the rules have already gone up?
[15:07] <Fieldy> (on boot)
[15:10] <GridCube> Fieldy, you might get better (or faster) answers on #ubuntu-server , you are welcome to wait for someone to answer here though :)
[15:12] <Fieldy> GridCube: ok, thanks for the pointer
[15:12] <GridCube> :) its not that im kicking you or anything, i just think that would be more useful for you Fieldy
[15:13] <Fieldy> oh i know, i appreciate it
[15:13] <GridCube> :)
[15:23] <ramiro> hello everybody!
[15:25] <GridCube> hi
[16:00] <qasim> hello
[16:00] <baizon> !hi | qasim
[16:00] <qasim> hi baizon
[16:00] <qasim> and ubot
[16:01] <qasim> i downloaded iso image of xubuntu  and burned it over a DVD.. i can try xubuntu from it but when i try to install my computer hangs
[16:02] <qasim> what could be the possible problem?
[16:03] <holstein> i might look into the hard drive.. i might wipe it and test it..
[16:04] <qasim> hello holstein
[16:04] <GridCube> there could be many many possible problems, first try to check that the dvd you burned its correct, do this by comparing its md5
[16:04] <GridCube> !md5
[16:04] <GridCube> qasim, ^^
[16:04] <qasim> i tried it ..as per md5 my io image integrity is fine
[16:05] <qasim> iso image*
[16:06] <qasim> should i format the hard drive and try to intall the xubuntu again?
[16:10] <holstein> qasim: i would test the drive... format and reinstall is not a bad idea
[16:10] <rhin0> wondeirng why i can't find libxfce4ui-1-dev on xubuntu 10.04 any more
[16:10] <rhin0> need it
[16:10] <qasim> test the drive ..but how?
[16:11] <qasim> i formatting in linux is like formating in windows?
[16:11] <holstein> qasim: there are tools from live CD's... i use gparted for formatting
[16:12] <rhin0> libxfce4ui-1-dev
[16:12] <qasim> can i use gparted while trying xubuntu through CD?
[16:13] <holstein> qasim: sure.. or a live CD such as the ultimate boot cd
[16:13] <qasim> oh okay
[16:13] <qasim> thanks
[16:15] <holstein> rhin0: maybe http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xfce4
[16:15] <rhin0> ta
[16:16] <qasim> through Gparted i can there is a partition of drive which is unknown to the system..im gonna delete it and create new partition
[16:16] <qasim> what extentsion should i use?
[16:17] <holstein> qasim: might be a windows recovery partition or something you might want/need
[16:18] <qasim> no ..goodbye to windows
[16:18] <qasim> totally
[16:18] <holstein> qasim: what would i do? load up a live diagnostic cd and test the drive.. i would expect a test like that to takea hour or so
[16:18] <holstein> qasim: i would just wipe the drive and let the installer format as needed
[16:18] <qasim> hmmm
[16:19] <qasim> well but im going to format it
[16:19] <qasim> its asking me file system
[16:19] <qasim> which one should i use?
[16:19] <phunyguy_> hmmmm, so I tried to install Gwibber in Xubuntu 12.10, and when I try to add accounts, it must be tied in with Ubuntu online accounts integration stuffs. It just gives me a gnome-settings window with only a few things in it, none of them being "Online Accounts" or anything having to do with Gwibber.
[16:19] <rhin0> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libxfce4ui-1-0 (= 4.8.1-1)
[16:19] <rhin0> I get
[16:19] <rhin0> no idea what that means
[16:19] <holstein> qasim: do what you like... but the installer will format.. what would i do? not format.. test.. if you want to format, format ext or whatver
[16:20] <phunyguy_> is there an alternative microblogging app that support facebook/twitter/etc?
[16:20] <qasim> okay thanks
[16:20] <holstein> rhin0: means that package is not satisfiable.. what are you trying to do?
[16:20] <rhin0> trying to install   libxfce4ui-1-dev  on xubuntu 10.04
[16:20] <rhin0> that used to be availabel by sudo apt-get
[16:20] <holstein> rhin0: no.. what are you trying to install that is requiring that
[16:21] <rhin0> kbleds
[16:21] <rhin0> applet
[16:21] <rhin0> xfce4-kbdleds-plugin-xfce4-kbdleds-plugin-0.0.6
[16:21] <rhin0> can't even get a keyboard led plugin anymore
[16:21] <rhin0> the one someone gave me .deb is just a joke
[16:21] <rhin0> its bypassing panel - can't even get rid of it
[16:21] <holstein> rhin0: it? what?
[16:22] <rhin0> I have bug that stops me using 12.04 nobody addresses it - major bug -x2x doesn't work
[16:22] <Pici> x2x?
[16:22] <holstein> rhin0: what bug?
[16:22] <rhin0> x2x doesn't work on 12.04
[16:22] <rhin0> allows you to control cursor over multiple desktops
[16:22] <holstein> rhin0: you'll need to choose what you want me or one of the other volunteers to help with
[16:22] <Pici> rhin0: You can't blindly take a package from one release and install it on an older release.
[16:22] <holstein> rhin0: what i would do is deal with 12.04
[16:22] <rhin0> right
[16:22] <rhin0> i've filed a bug
[16:22] <rhin0> its just ignored
[16:22] <qasim> holstein doesnt like "its"..you got to elaborate lol
[16:23] <holstein> rhin0: we deal with bugs.. you and me.. the community..
[16:23] <holstein> rhin0: what would you like to do with it? would you mind linking it up?
[16:23] <rhin0>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x2x/+bug/1066906
[16:24] <rhin0> so now things deteriorate on 10.04
[16:24] <knome> looks like x2x got its last update 3 years ago, and the last stable release was 9 years ago.
[16:24] <rhin0> if I could libxfce4ui-1-dev  things would be ok (install that)
[16:24] <rhin0> can't anymore
[16:24] <rhin0> im staying with 10.04
[16:25] <rhin0> thats a basic thing (x2x)
[16:25] <holstein> rhin0: ? whats a basic thing?
[16:25] <rhin0> x 2 x
[16:25] <holstein> rhin0: im not following you. but lets try and stay constructive
[16:26] <holstein> rhin0: this is all open.. if we/you need things can be built and implemented. let me look and see what i used in 10.04 for led repacements
[16:26] <Pici> rhin0: is it stuck where the unity bar is, or is it stuck on 1 pixel on the left?
[16:26] <rhin0> i just need my keyboard led
[16:26] <rhin0> applet
[16:26] <rhin0> i don't use unity I use xubuntu 10.04
[16:26] <Pici> Oh, right. Forgot what channel I was in.
[16:28] <holstein> rhin0: i used to use lock-keys-applet in 10.04
[16:28] <rhin0> on xubuntu?
[16:28] <rhin0> thats gnome
[16:28] <holstein> rhin0: sure.. it should work though.. have you tried?
[16:28] <rhin0> trying
[16:28] <rhin0> II T says its installed but doesn't appear on the panel list of applets
[16:29] <rhin0> do ~I have to restart the panel
[16:29] <holstein> rhin0: relax... i have a 10.04 install i can load up and help with this..
[16:30] <rhin0> ta
[16:30] <rhin0> sudo apt-get install lock-keys-applet is installed
[16:32] <rhin0> i restarted panel still can't see applet
[16:33] <holstein> rhin0: correct.. i didnt mean to imply you needed to restart.. you'll just need to be as patient as you possibly can be
[16:33] <rhin0> well its installed
[16:33] <rhin0> how do I get it on the panel
[16:34] <holstein> rhin0: not many people have your software setup.. nor your needs.. so i am researching a solution.. and i can fire up my old 10.04 install. install xfce and test some things
[16:34] <rhin0> ta
[16:34] <rhin0> thanks v much
[16:34] <holstein> rhin0: the answer to "how do i get it on the panel" is to please wait on myself or one of the other volunteers to sort that out
[16:35] <holstein> i remember implementing that in 10.04 on my eee in gnome.. then i just stopped bothering with it.. i currently dont have any
[16:35] <rhin0> trying this http://askubuntu.com/questions/66181/how-do-i-enable-the-globalmenu-appmenu-on-xfce
[16:40] <rhin0> i may have found one
[16:40] <rhin0> in synaptic
[16:41] <rhin0> looks like its downloading gnome (91 packages) .. whatever
[16:42] <holstein> rhin0: looks like the PPA you are trying is not for 10.04
[16:42] <holstein> rhin0: i would have a look at your sources and disable anything that you have added that might "break" things
[16:42] <holstein> i would run sudo apt-get update and see that that completes with no errors
[16:43] <rhin0> ok
[16:43] <holstein> this looks nice rhin0 http://blog.treellama.org/2011/01/genmon-numlockpy.html
[16:44] <rhin0> a python applet
[16:44] <rhin0> i had one -- but will it suck up processor
[16:44] <rhin0> resource heavy
[16:44] <rhin0> no way i'm using that
[16:44] <rhin0> that is uugly
[16:45] <rhin0> this is ridiculous
[16:46] <rhin0> i;'ve been asking this quesiton for 2 years now
[16:46] <rhin0> periodically
[16:46] <rhin0> you get a fix then it stops working
[16:46] <rhin0> basic facility
[16:47] <holstein> rhin0: sure.. but its not a bug.. its not broken
[16:47] <holstein> rhin0: you could ask the vendor of your hardware to provide the functionality
[16:47] <holstein> rhin0: you could use that python app with custom images
[16:47] <rhin0> its a python app
[16:47] <rhin0> no
[16:47] <holstein> rhin0: you could move on to 12.04
[16:47] <rhin0> i told you
[16:47] <holstein> rhin0: sure.. but the answer is *never* really no.. you can choose not to though
[16:47] <rhin0> )nobody addresses the bug (x2x
[16:47] <rhin0> can't use it
[16:47] <webmind> TheSheep, ok, the problem is back.. so didn't solve it in the end it seems
[16:48] <holstein> rhin0: sure.. but you and i could address the bug.. its not a bug that you dont have led's
[16:48] <rhin0> basic facilities.
[16:48] <rhin0> maybe I just forget about xubuntu
[16:48] <rhin0> ubuntu
[16:48] <holstein> rhin0: i dont think so.. its software that is not working for you..
[16:48] <holstein> rhin0: sure. thats an option.. run gnome in 10.04
[16:48] <rhin0> no.
[16:54] <holstein> rhin0: you'll need to be open to some work-arounds and experiementing
[16:55] <rhin0> spending 1/2 a day trying to get a keyboar dindicator makes me think of ditching ubuntu
[16:55] <holstein> rhin0: sure. but this is not an ubuntu or linux issue.. your hardware is not providing you feedback
[16:55] <rhin0> many pcs don't have keybaord lights
[16:55] <rhin0> most OS s have basic facitlity of keyboard indicator
[16:55] <holstein> rhin0: i found comfortable work arounds, and eventually decided i dont need the feedback
[16:56] <rhin0> i'll probably give up
[16:56] <rhin0> put up with it
[16:56] <holstein> rhin0: sure
[16:56] <rhin0> just extra stress
[16:56] <holstein> rhin0: i have found no stress from it personally
[16:56] <rhin0> riught
[16:56] <rhin0> its ridiculous
[16:56] <rhin0> basic issues never addressed
[16:56] <holstein> rhin0: you can always link the bugs and get involved
[16:57] <holstein> thats why i would move on to 12.04. or 13.10 even
[16:58] <rhin0> i told you I can't
[16:58] <rhin0> im stuffed
[16:58] <holstein> rhin0: you are choosing not to, and that fine.. but you must understand.. 10.04 is scheduled EOL soon
[16:59] <holstein> rhin0: you will find it challenging to get anyone to seriously look at any UI bugs that didnt ship with 10.04
[17:11] <rhin0> thats ubuntu - if you get a solution at all it'll be partial ..
[17:12] <rhin0> if you get a solution - it;ll stop working in time
[17:12] <rhin0> nobody gives a shit
[17:12] <holstein> rhin0: watch the language please
[17:12] <holstein> rhin0: its a community.. i dont think you undrstand why its not being resolved
[17:12] <rhin0> all I see - googling - is multiple people asking same question (no resolution)
[17:13] <holstein> rhin0: its not shipped with 10.04, and 10.04 is going to be EOL soon
[17:13] <rhin0> its not being resolved becasus there is no market impetus to resolve it
[17:13] <rhin0> its never been fixed
[17:13] <holstein> rhin0: there is the python one that you dont like
[17:13] <holstein> rhin0: its not broken
[17:13] <rhin0> i can't use 12.04 because things dont' work with it
[17:13] <rhin0> use a ridiculous python script
[17:13] <holstein> rhin0: sure.. but you'll need to elaborate on what doent work
[17:14] <rhin0> x2x
[17:14] <rhin0> i showed the bug
[17:14] <holstein> rhin0: ridicuolous is a matter of optinion
[17:14] <holstein> rhin0: im not a coder, and i didnt see you link the bug actually
[17:14] <holstein> rhin0: if you do, i'll take a look
[17:14] <qasim> by the way is there any method to use ms office through linux?
[17:15] <bazhang> qasim, wine
[17:15] <FrEaKmAn_> hi.. im using 12.10 and its all the time crashing.. I guess it's xcfe.. I cannot switch between programs, mouse icon is X
[17:15] <phunyguy_t430s> I seem to have broken xfce4-power-manager, or installed /something else/ that is taking over.  I go to power settings in the settings manager and it tells me that the xfce4-power-manager is not running and asks to start it.  that does nothing. If I run it from a command line with --no-daemon - it gives me an error stating that another power manager is running, and I can't figure out what it is.  Little help would be much appreciated, thanks.
[17:15] <holstein> FrEaKmAn_: i would confirm that it is xfce.. are you running xubuntu?
[17:15] <FrEaKmAn_> holstein: yes
[17:15] <qasim> whine I TRIED WINE ONCE BUT IT was not working well with ms office applications
[17:16] <phunyguy_t430s> as some background, I tried to install Gwibber, and I'm sure that pulled in some gnome-deps
[17:16] <holstein> qasim: nothing ubuntu/linux doest prevents microsoft from providing a native office version
[17:17] <qasim> sorry i dint get you hol
[17:17] <qasim> hmm
[17:18] <holstein> qasim: anyone can create a native linux application. microsoft could provide you with a native application..
[17:18] <qasim> well but ms doesnot..
[17:19] <Tm_T> ofcourse
[17:20] <FrEaKmAn_> holstein: any ideas?
[17:23] <rhin0> look this actually works
[17:23] <rhin0> will put up with it http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/indicator-keylock-displays-keyboard.html
[17:23] <rhin0> sorry
[17:23] <rhin0> its just distracting
[17:23] <rhin0> brings up a big thing that gets in the way
[17:23] <rhin0> horirble
[17:23] <rhin0> but hey
[17:23] <rhin0> its 100x better than windows
[17:24] <holstein> FrEaKmAn_: i would try a different user, to take the config out of the equation
[17:28] <rhin0> found out -- what it is is notify messages .. how do i disable notify messages
[17:28] <rhin0> thats what it is
[17:28] <rhin0> notify
[17:28] <rhin0> all the time notify notify
[17:28] <rhin0> its horrible
[17:29] <rhin0> TOP right big ugly bar - whenever something happens
[17:29] <rhin0> covering stuff
[17:29] <rhin0> how do I get rid
[17:29] <rhin0> its all the time
[17:30] <rhin0> sudo apt-get remove notify-osd  just tried this
[17:30] <rhin0> will reboot brb
[17:30] <holstein> rhin0: i changed notifiations.. and i use a compositor.. *everything* is customizable.. if you can, try and say what you want.. "horrible" is a matter of opinion
[17:30] <rhin0> i want to LOSE notifications
[17:30] <holstein> rhin0: i just installed the other notifier i wanted
[17:30] <rhin0> not change them - turn them off
[17:30] <rhin0> no I don't want them at all
[17:30] <holstein> rhin0: maybe  just dont use the xfce panel.. if you dont want much from it
[17:30] <rhin0> no
[17:31] <rhin0> I need the panel
[17:31] <holstein> rhin0: there a plenty of options
[17:31] <holstein> rhin0: no?
[17:31] <rhin0> not notificaitons
[17:31] <rhin0> so I have to like disable the panel to stop notifications?
[17:31] <holstein> rhin0: sure.. you can use a different panel that might fit your needs better
[17:31] <holstein> rhin0: correct.. and that is one meathod i am proposing
[17:31] <rhin0> HOW DO i TIRN OFF NOFIFICATIONS?
[17:31] <holstein> rhin0: no caps please
[17:31] <holstein> !patents | rhin0
[17:32] <holstein> !patience | rhin0
[17:32] <rhin0> im getting htat in notification
[17:32] <rhin0> why?
[17:32] <rhin0> its horrible
[17:32] <holstein> rhin0: i think if you want to remove that package, it will want to remove the desktop
[17:32] <holstein> rhin0: horrible is a matter of opinion
[17:33] <rhin0> no more notificaitons
[17:33] <rhin0> ty
[17:34] <rhin0> removing that package = removed notification "daemon"
[17:34] <rhin0> has solved problem with caps lock indicator
[17:34] <rhin0> i just didn't connect the problem with being "notifications"
[17:34] <rhin0> had tried to disable them in the past
[17:34] <rhin0> ty
[17:34] <rhin0> too helpful IMO = bad
[17:34] <rhin0> messages all over the place
[17:37] <mneptok> rhin0: all this complaining and you still have not found the Notifications icon in the system settings?
[17:37] <holstein> rhin0: everything is open in this way.. you are not only able to, but encouraged to customize. you are also a bit "on your own" when you deviate from the default experience
[17:40] <rhin0> i only just saw to rejmove that packagte
[17:40] <rhin0> through gui too?
[17:40] <holstein> rhin0: sure.. "that" package? what gui?
[17:40] <rhin0> xfce4
[17:42] <holstein> rhin0: you removed xfce?
[17:43] <rhin0> 	no
[17:43] <rhin0> i remofved the notification daemon ty
[17:43] <holstein> thats what i was thinking.. it'll be tied into the desktop
[17:43] <holstein> rhin0: ty?
[17:44] <rhin0> thankyou
[17:44] <holstein> rhin0: thankyou?
[17:44] <holstein> rhin0: are you saying you removed notifications and that removed xfce4?
[17:45] <rhin0> no - I just removed notifcaitons
[17:46] <holstein> http://shoaibmir.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/disable-notification-systems-in-ubuntu/ should work as well
[17:47] <rhin0> that didn't actually work on xubuntu
[17:47] <userzerox> Hi there! How do i install Mediterranean Night theme in xubuntu. I have downloaded all the necessary files. Here's the link to the list of files i have downloaded.http://customizemania.com/daily-mania-mediterranean-night-xfce/
[17:47] <rhin0> sudo mv /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.xfce.xfce4-notifyd.Notifications.service /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.xfce.xfce4-notifyd.Notifications.service.disabled -- failed
[17:47] <rhin0> thanks anyway holstein
[17:48] <rhin0> had to flail around a bit before I understood it wasn notficaitns (was my problem)
[17:48] <holstein> rhin0: sure.. enjoy... let me or one of the other volunteers now if you have a support query
[17:48] <rhin0> ty
[17:48] <rhin0> i support too on occasion
[17:49] <Tm_T> holstein: well done (:
[17:50] <holstein> Tm_T: :)
[17:54] <holstein> userzerox: you have referred to http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/appearance ?
[17:56] <userzerox> holstein: This is a new theme i have downloaded. Shouldn't i be installing first before selecting from appearance tab?
[17:57] <GridCube> userzerox, uncompress it to ~/.themes
[17:57] <holstein> userzerox: that should help you sort out where to put the files, depending one how it is to be installed
[17:57] <userzerox> holstein: thanks
[17:58] <userzerox> GridCube: Thanks
[18:10] <phunyguy_work> I seem to have broken xfce4-power-manager, or installed /something else/ that is taking over.  I go to power settings in the settings manager and it tells me that the xfce4-power-manager is not running and asks to start it.  that does nothing. If I run it from a command line with --no-daemon - it gives me an error stating that another power manager is running, and I can't figure out what it is.
[18:11] <phunyguy_work> I did find out that it is in fact gnome-related, and I disabled gnome services startup in session manager, but I am afraid of what else that will break because it was already checked.
[18:13] <rhin0>  maybe to ps -ef  (or 'top') command -- you will see what programs are running
[18:13] <rhin0> maybe do
[18:14] <rhin0> ps -ef | less gives you a scrolleable list of the apps you are running (from the bash shell) .. "top" gives you another scrollable list of what apps take up most cpu (top down)
[18:15] <rhin0> theres a lot of them, but maybe you can see what power manager is running .. maybe in it you can see "gnome" string to identify gnome app .. "ps -ef | grep string <- replace string with "gnome" for instance would give you a list of all gnome apps
[18:15] <rhin0> phunyguy_
[18:15] <rhin0> phunyguy_work
[18:16] <rhin0> sounds like you do need to stop the non-standard power manager
[18:17] <rhin0> whenever you install something "gnome" it seems to install a whole lot of gnome (last time I did that it installed 91 packages)
[18:18] <rhin0> maybe go into synaptic and search for "power" see what app/boxes are ticked (installed)
[18:18] <phunyguy_t430s> yeah I see that.  You would think if it was a gnome power manager issue, the icon would be in the gnome-control-center, which it isn't.
[18:18] <rhin0> there are places where things are started up .. startup in setup and also scripts to start things up
[18:19] <phunyguy_t430s> i also checked in the xfce session manager
[18:19] <phunyguy_t430s> couldnt find anything except that gnome-services checkbox.
[19:46] <Noskcaj> how do you make a proxy universal across a xubuntu system?
[19:48] <blackgatonegro> Noskcaj, you mean making it the default proxy? most tor installs end with tor being the default proxy
[19:49] <Noskcaj> yeah, so i can connect  to my school's proxy
[19:52] <blackgatonegro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/6943/how-can-a-proxy-be-set-for-the-whole-xubuntu-system
[19:55] <Noskcaj> thanks
[19:55] <Noskcaj> ok, so is there no gui?
[20:00] <drc> I was reading in another distro's forum (salix, if you really must know) that the xfce Mail Watcher does not build against xfce 4.10, but iirc, xubuntu 12.10 has it (right now I'm on 12.04, so I can't check it).  Can someone confirm my recollection (or confirm the statement that it doesn't build against 4.10) ?
[20:23] <drc>  nevermind, I just grabbed the 12.10 iso and burnt an USB stick, so I'll check myself :)
[20:29] <Guest60988> Hi there :)  To answer my own question, yes 12.10 <does> have xfce's Mail Watcher.
[20:33] <Guest60988> But I've noticed another problem, xfce's Weather Update appears <not> to allow one to use the Search Location function...(I've noticed this on 2 xfce 4.10 distros.  Can any one check this on their 12.10/4.10 install ?
[20:36] <GridCube> Guest60988, can confirm that
[20:36] <Guest60988> thanks GridCube
[20:37] <Guest60988> Wonder what's the problem with it, must be upstream...I'll check there later, after I boot back to 12.10.
[20:38] <Guest60988> opps, 12.04
[20:38]  * Guest60988 hates upgrades...something I use <always> breaks :(
[20:49] <johnz0r> hi :)
[20:50] <johnz0r> I just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.10 and this new xfce4-terminal is storing my ssh passphrase, i don't have to write it again during my session
[20:50] <johnz0r> is there a method to avoid that ?
[20:51] <johnz0r> i suppose i have to rtfm about key storing but i can't find anything
[21:16] <phunyguy_t430s> hey guise... I am trying out Pidgin, and when I was at work, google talk as well as Facebook IM (both XMPP) connected just fine, but at home, I get "Server does use any supported authentication method" for both, and AIM connects just fine.
[21:16] <phunyguy_t430s> I thought maybe it was a glitch, because it happened this morning before work, and then worked fine when I got there.
[21:17] <phunyguy_t430s> this is a fresh install, and it worked in regular Ubuntu yesterday, so something is funky....