[00:00] <hal14450> sometimes it may require dropping into a shell via ctrl+alt+F1-F6 (one shell per function key) and then killing lightdm so X is dead to install a proper driver but that depends on hardware and there's also no default fallback config for X iirc.
[00:00] <Lesh_> I did use a CLI based installer and thats what comes out. I have a S3 Supersavage and can't find a solution. The notenbook ran Ubuntu, Mint 12 etc.
[00:00] <hal14450> hmm
[00:00] <Analogymous> Alright? Thanks a lot Holstein! I never considered that to be a good idea as I was too enthustiastic about getting this stuff installed! I'll save your input for later and let the installer continue to do whatever it does for the rest of the night! Thanks @holstein
[00:01] <hal14450> Lesh_, that's something I'm not familiar with
[00:01] <Lesh_> Np, thanks anyway :)
[00:03] <hal14450> i's like to hep but i'm a bit preoccupied atm. you might keep trying to look for solutions though. i hate to sound trite but have you done an lspci yet and combined the results with a google search?
[00:03] <holstein> you can tap shift from a live CD... you'll see F6 option at the bottom "nomodeset"
[00:03] <Analogymous> Haha I did a stupid thing and ejected the DVD to see if it had frozen or not? Apparently there was a lot of stuff going on.
[00:04] <Lesh_> yeah i did
[00:05] <Analogymous> Thanks guys! Goodnight.
[00:06] <hal14450> Lesh_, wish i could be of more help but i don't have the time right now :(
[00:07] <hal14450> Lesh_, you might try a local LUG for more personalized advice
[00:09] <Osmodivs> I conected my PC via VGA to a 1080p LED display, now all menus and fonts are so yiny is barely readeble, I can change fonts in the openBox and customize look and feel, but that only changes the windows but not the menus and other stuff, is there a way to change the font size to suit a 1920x1080 display?
[00:09] <Lesh_> alright, thank you for your advice :) its okay
[00:10] <hal14450> Lesh_, if you don't get it sorted tonight i might be around tomorrow ~6pm -5GMT okay?
[00:12] <hal14450> Osmodivs, yes but it may be a bit complicated depending on the setup. sadly i don't have the time right now to help.
[00:13] <Lesh_> alright, ill be here
[00:13] <Lesh_> thank you very much
[00:16] <hal14450> Lesh_, yvw =)
[00:17] <hal14450> Lesh_, get my attention by naming me
[00:17] <hal14450> ttyl
[00:17] <Lesh_> hall4450 Alright
[00:19] <hal14450> Lesh_, 'hint' use the TAB key and the first few letters of my nick in most IRC clients to make sure i see it as you added an extra l in hal ;-)
[00:20] <Lesh_> hal14450 D:
[00:20] <hal14450> bingo!
[00:20] <hal14450> ttyt ;-)
[00:20] <Lesh_> never used irc, i feel so nooby.
[00:20] <hal14450> no worries mate
[00:21]  * hal14450 is off
[04:22] <CJ_> hi
[04:46] <droidmaxxx> hello guys!! lubuntu fails to shutdown or hibernate in virtual box... It starts does smths then a  Black Screen for hours... Virtual box doesn't shut down...
[04:46] <droidmaxxx> I hope someone from LUBUNTU team is online right now :\
[04:47] <droidmaxxx> I'm using 12.10
[08:19] <jumpy> hello
[08:20] <jumpy> i need some info about the supported devices of lubuntu
[08:20] <jumpy> is the cedar trail supported?
[08:21] <jumpy> anyone??
[08:22] <bioterror> if it works on ubuntu, it works on lubuntu
[08:23] <jumpy> it worked on ubuntu, but now with lubuntu, when i use the extra drivers app, it installs drivers, but then suddenly the screen gets black :/
[08:23] <jumpy> it still does something, i see hdd led flashing
[08:24] <bioterror> sounds lovely
[08:24] <jumpy> idd :/
[08:24] <bioterror> broken intel drivers
[08:24] <jumpy> derp...
[08:25] <jumpy> is there something i can do bout it? or do i need oto stay with 800x600?
[08:25] <jumpy> isnt bad acctually, only little fat faces with movies...
[08:26] <jumpy> but i want to get the most out of my netbook u know...
[08:26] <bioterror> yeah, but you dont get VAAPI support without goods drivers
[08:26] <bioterror> -s
[08:27] <jumpy> so there are no fixes yet from intel?
[08:31] <bioterror> I dunno, you have the same internet asI do
[08:32] <bioterror> you can search launchpad for example, I'm at work. trying to lend some shoulder
[08:32] <jumpy> srry, i didnt know :/ im just here to try find some answers...
[14:36] <lesshaste> how can you configure a web proxy for chromium? In firefox you just add it to an "automatic proxy configuration URL" in the preferences. Is there some chromium equivalent?
[14:37] <holstein> lesshaste: you can alway just use firefox, if thats what you are used to and prefer
[14:38] <lesshaste> holstein, I would prefer to use chromium
[14:38] <holstein> http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/secure-web-proxy seems relevant
[14:40] <holstein> lesshaste: i find it in chrome... under settings in the menu, under settings again there, after clicking "show advanced settings" at the bottom
[14:40] <holstein> the first option i see in the  advanced settings is proxy
[14:41] <lesshaste> "When running Chromium under a supported desktop environment, the system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not supported or there was a problem while launching your system configuration.
[14:41] <lesshaste> But you can still configure via the command line. Please see man chromium-browser for more information on flags and environment variables."
[14:41] <holstein> so, in a terminal "man chromium-browser"
[14:41] <holstein> lesshaste: or, look for that in the menu
[14:42] <holstein> lesshaste: or try chrome... or firefox
[14:42] <lesshaste> k
[14:55] <lesshaste> holstein, there is a nice plugin that solves it all
[14:55] <lesshaste> switchy
[14:57] <holstein> lesshaste: cool!.. i'll make a note if that comes up again
[14:58] <lesshaste> proxy switchy
[14:58] <lesshaste> :)
[20:00] <bulletrulz> is anyone here!
[20:02] <holstein> !ask | bulletrulz
[20:02] <bulletrulz> ok how to change the window bordor icons in lubuntuu
[20:03] <holstein> bulletrulz: i would just play around in the theme settings.. the window decorations it what i think you are looking for
[20:04] <bulletrulz> ikno that but it only changes the color not the icon
[20:05] <holstein> bulletrulz: depends on what you choose.. i would just keep experiementing, and keep in mind a lot of what is available and configured in lubuntu is for being "light"
[20:05] <bioterror> obconf
[20:06] <bulletrulz> sooooooo i want to use the ambeice theme bu it doesent work it changes the color but holstein
[20:07] <holstein> bulletrulz: i havent used "the ambience" theme with lxde.. do you have a link?
[20:08] <bulletrulz> hold on its a gtk theme
[20:09] <bulletrulz> is thst y?
[20:10] <bulletrulz> nvm i guess its ok
[20:23] <yeah> trying to update menu in lubuntu but not sure where to put .desktop file.  Tried online docs but no change
[20:24] <holstein> yeah: i just use kupfer. or synapse
[20:24] <holstein> i thought alacarte was working with lxde now
[20:24] <yeah> alacarte seemed overkill at 56MB to edit a text file
[20:25] <yeah> I recall I did a sublime.desktop file and setup the Programming menu but can't remember what I did :)
[20:25] <holstein> yeah: i would probably just look at the others in place and emulate
[20:26] <yeah> I have done so. /usr/share/applications and even make a .local/share/ relevant menu, but it's not showing up.  The menu.xml file doesn't reflect the current menu either.  :confused:
[20:27] <bioterror> is your .desktop file correct-a-mundo?
[20:27] <yeah> but I'll try kupfer / synapse as you suggest
[20:27] <yeah> good question.  I copied it from sublime to make a drjava.desktop file
[20:27] <yeah> it should at least show up in the menu
[20:28] <bioterror> compare it to a working .desktop file
[20:28] <bioterror> [Desktop entry] and Categories= are important
[20:29] <yeah> yes I have those.  Comparing files....brb
[20:35] <yeah> changed Categories to TextEditor;IDE;Development to match sublime.desktop.  however drjava.desktop does not show up.  I've been running lxpanelctl restart to refresh the menu, is that necessary?  Nothing showing up in menu
[20:36] <holstein> id say you are on the right track though
[20:37] <yeah> I'll try taking out $HOME and putting in full directories
[20:40] <yeah> I added some other sections and refreshed, that worked!  Now the icon isn't showing but it shows under properties
[20:41] <holstein> yeah: almost!... id say thats progress.. i forget where that is, but there is a way to categorize
[20:42] <yeah> fixed the icon, just went and found it again in the properties, change icon ....done
[20:42] <yeah> and I didn't have to download 56mb for alacarte either
[20:42] <yeah> t:D
[20:43] <holstein> cheers
[20:43] <yeah> cheers
[20:54] <hunger993> Hey guys. Im running ubuntu with the lxde desktop enviroment. Should I seek support here?
[20:55] <holstein> hunger993: sure.. whats up?
[20:57] <hunger993> So I used a usb CD drive, and now my mouse sticks about once a second.
[20:57] <hunger993> it happend when i was using windows xp too, but it would go away after i unplugged it
[20:58] <hunger993> and i have rebooted since i rmoved the drive
[20:59] <menethoril> Does the issue only occur while the drive is mounted?
[21:00] <hunger993> no, i unplugged it, and noticed it was still sticking, so i rebooted. still a problem
[21:00] <hunger993> though it does stick less now then when it was plugged in
[21:02] <hunger993> so... how fix?
[21:07] <hunger993> gaise...?
[21:14] <menethoril> You might want to take this to the ubuntu channel instead, if only for the larger quantity of users.  I am unfamiliar with anything that might cause such an issue.
[21:15] <hunger993> ok thanks for the help.
[21:26] <holstein> hunger993: i would shutdown.. not restart. maybe pull the power.. try and fully power off... maybe use live CD's, or take the hard drive out to rule out *any* operating system issue
[21:27] <holstein> hunger993: you can look at cat /proc/interrupts , but i would expect things to go back to normal after removing said usb hardware
[21:28] <holstein> i might try other usb hardware in that usb port.. i would try other usb ports... i would entertain that the issue is a motherboard issue
[21:30] <menethoril> I thought that the USB controller might be at fault, but he stated that the issue lessened but did not disappear upon the drive's removal.  Maybe a full shutdown would resolve the issue.
[21:31] <holstein> might help support that bad hardware theory
[21:35] <menethoril> Indeed.
[22:32] <Lesh_> hal14450 hey
[22:40] <hal14450> hello Lesh_
[22:40] <hal14450> any luck yet?
[22:43] <Lesh_> nah had no time
[22:43] <Lesh_> just came home :)
[22:45] <hal14450> so just to refresh my memory this is a laptop with and S3 video chipset right?
[22:46] <hal14450> Lesh_, ^^^
[22:48] <hal14450> so i guess the first course of action is to see if you can drop into a shell using ctrl+alt+F1
[22:49] <Lesh_> yes
[22:49] <hal14450> then after you've logged in to that you can open another one  using alt+F2-F6
[22:50] <Lesh_> S3 Supersavage :D
[22:50] <Lesh_> i can
[22:50] <hal14450> good deal
[22:50] <hal14450> so you may want to have two shells open okay?
[22:51] <Lesh_> do i? :D
[22:51] <hal14450> switching between them is easy enough by using alt+F(1-6)
[22:51] <hal14450> well it's easier to have more than one
[22:51] <Lesh_> alright
[22:51] <hal14450> one for getting info and another for working
[22:52] <Lesh_> good
[22:52] <Lesh_> i opened two
[22:52] <hal14450> good, are you familiar with the less command at all?
[22:52] <hal14450> or grep?
[22:53] <Lesh_> im familiar with no command at all
[22:53] <hal14450> lol okay
[22:53] <Lesh_> except of apt-get
[22:53] <Lesh_> D:
[22:53] <hal14450> can you ssh into that box at all?
[22:53] <Lesh_> ssh?
[22:54] <hal14450> lol
[22:54] <Lesh_> :D
[22:54] <hal14450> no worries we'll try and get you sorted out tonight okay?
[22:54] <Lesh_> good.
[22:55] <hal14450> so ssh is a secure shell which is a way of working on the machine via another one that doesn't have issues which would be better for helping you out since you can share the info a lot easier via copy paste
[22:56] <hal14450> so the machine you're on now is running what OS?
[22:56] <Lesh_> Windows Vista X:
[22:57] <hal14450> okay so you'll probably need something like putty for that which a client you can use to connect to the laptop
[22:57] <Lesh_> k let me google it
[22:57] <hal14450> good man
[22:58] <hal14450> if traffic gets heavier in here please use my nick so that i can keep attention focused on what you way okay?
[22:58] <hal14450> *say* even
[22:58] <Lesh_> hal14450 alright
[22:58] <hal14450> now we're roling
[22:59] <Lesh_> hal14450 ok i got putty now
[23:00] <hal14450> cool, so on the laptop you'll want to install the ssh server give me a minute and i'll tell you the exact command okay?
[23:00] <Lesh_> hal14450 alright
[23:02] <hal14450> just wanted to double check the package name, sudo apt-get install ssh should do it
[23:02] <hal14450> used to be there were a couple of choices
[23:03] <Lesh_> hal14450 its installing
[23:03] <hal14450> you can use sudo -s in a the working terminal to gain persistent root
[23:03] <hal14450> that might be easier but just be careful
[23:04] <Lesh_> alright
[23:04] <hal14450> doing stuff as root can be dangerous
[23:04] <hal14450> so once it's installed you can then try logging into the box from putty on your windows machine
[23:05] <hal14450> you'll need to know the IP though
[23:05] <hal14450> ifconfig will tell you
[23:05] <hal14450> for a lan it's usually 192.168.XXX.XXX
[23:05] <Lesh_> mh
[23:05] <Lesh_> it says command not found
[23:06] <hal14450> ifconfig not found?
[23:06] <hal14450> that's odd
[23:06] <Lesh_> ah now
[23:06] <Lesh_> dunno why
[23:06] <Lesh_> ah
[23:06] <Lesh_> nevermind
[23:06] <hal14450> speeled it wrong eh?
[23:06] <hal14450> lol
[23:06] <Lesh_> yeah
[23:06] <Lesh_> D:
[23:07] <hal14450> you can type the first few letters like in IRC and then use the tab key for completion
[23:07] <Lesh_> hal14450: ah
[23:07] <Lesh_> hal14450: thats nice
[23:07] <hal14450> isn't it?
[23:08] <Lesh_> hal14450: ok, the port stays at 22?
[23:08] <hal14450> yes that's the standard port for ssh
[23:09] <Lesh_> oh nice
[23:09] <Lesh_> hal14450: im in
[23:09] <hal14450> sweet
[23:10] <hal14450> so first off it would be nice to get any errors out of the way, so please wait a sec while i give you a command to run okay?
[23:11] <Lesh_> okay
[23:11] <hal14450> grep "(EE)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:11] <hal14450> if there's a lot of output you'll want to use a pastebin like service
[23:12] <hal14450> don't paste the ouput in here okay Lesh_ ?
[23:12] <hal14450> brb
[23:12] <Lesh_> hal14450:  k which one should we use?
[23:13] <Lesh_> hal14450: seem like there are around 3 errors
[23:14] <hal14450> okay can you use pastebin to them please?
[23:18] <Lesh_> http://pastebin.com/4fXB3HUA
[23:18] <hal14450> ty Lesh_
[23:19] <hal14450> so to see what's all about we'll modify that last command a little
[23:19] <hal14450> give me a sec
[23:20] <hal14450> grep -C 10 "(EE)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:20] <hal14450> that will give use 10 lines of context around the errors to see if it matters or not
[23:22] <Lesh_> http://pastebin.com/EXXXGNsg
[23:23] <hal14450> ty Lesh_ i didn't think it mattered that xaa didn't load and it looks like it so far give me a minute to be sure
[23:25] <Lesh_> hal14450: okay!
[23:27] <hal14450> okay looks pretty harmless to me can you please paste the output from this command: lspci -vv|grep -A 50 "VGA compatible"
[23:28] <hal14450> basically 50 lines of info but if the stanza is shorter than that feel free to cut it off
[23:29] <Lesh_> hal14450: http://pastebin.com/88rRT0Dg
[23:29] <Lesh_> i did something wrong D:
[23:30] <Lesh_> hal14450: or?
[23:30] <hal14450> ls is like the dir command in dos it's just a list and lspci is a list of the pci hardware with the -vv switch it's 'very verbose' and then we pipe that to grep using the pipe key '|' and ask for 50 lik=nes after with the switch -A. give a me sec to look that over
[23:31] <hal14450> can you paste just the exact command you used in here please? not the output
[23:33] <hal14450> it looks like you may have made a syntax error again
[23:33] <hal14450> i tested the command here so it should work
[23:34] <Lesh_> k ill retype
[23:35] <hal14450> Lesh_, the output should resemble this: http://pastebin.com/z4QkAM3n
[23:36] <Lesh_> ah i found the error
[23:37] <Lesh_> hal14450: http://pastebin.com/eSCLBAX8
[23:37] <hal14450> ty give a me a minute please
[23:39] <hal14450> Lesh_,  okay so we now know what the card is for sure and we know it uses the savagefb module
[23:40] <hal14450> lsmod|grep savagefb
[23:40] <Lesh_> alright
[23:40] <hal14450> should be one line at the least
[23:40] <Lesh_> nothing
[23:41] <hal14450> modprobe -i savagefb
[23:41] <hal14450> killall lightdm
[23:41] <Lesh_> hal14450: nothing again
[23:42] <Lesh_> the notebook said " [3045.126764] cannot request PCI regions
[23:42] <Lesh_> "
[23:42] <hal14450> can you paste the output from those commands please because sometimes nothing is good
[23:42] <hal14450> prompt to prompt if you will
[23:42] <Lesh_> no i mean
[23:43] <hal14450> obfuscate it if you like
[23:43] <Lesh_> if i hit enter it drives me back to  root@localhostLesh:~#
[23:43] <Lesh_> no output at all
[23:43] <hal14450> okay so you pasted what again and got what output exactly?
[23:44] <Lesh_> i pasted lsmod|grep savagefb -> nothing happens. modprobe -i savagefb -> putty says nothing, the notebook says [ 3045.126764] cannot request PCI regions. killall lightdm -> nothing happens
[23:46] <hal14450> so killall lightdm should kill the login screen
[23:46] <hal14450> and thus kill X
[23:46] <Lesh_> mh
[23:46] <Lesh_> if i use strg+alt+f7 the screen went away
[23:46] <hal14450> alt+F7 is where X normally resides
[23:47] <Lesh_> what exactly is X?
[23:48] <hal14450> ctrl+alt+F<1-6> gets you back from X. X is the windowing system that all nix variants use until wayland eventually replaces it
[23:48] <hal14450> maybe that is
[23:48] <Lesh_> ah
[23:49] <hal14450> it;s been a while since i've used lubuntu but i do have a box with an older version installed on it but iirc it uses lightdm
[23:50] <hal14450> gimme a minute
[23:50] <hal14450> are you using a registered nick Lesh_ ?
[23:51] <Lesh_> hal14450: nope
[23:51] <hal14450> i wanted to pm you but i don't think that's possible without you registering
[23:51] <hal14450> are you using mIRC?
[23:53] <Lesh_> hal14450: nope D:
[23:54] <hal14450> what irc client then?
[23:54] <Lesh_> im here via freenode webchat
[23:54] <holstein> should be able to /q without registering
[23:55] <Lesh_> linked from the ubuntu wiki
[23:55] <holstein> !register
[23:55] <hal14450> ahh okay, i'm not sure if they have any provisons for PM or registering
[23:55] <hal14450> holstein, do you know if the web client allows PM?
[23:55] <holstein> nope.. works fine
[23:55] <holstein> hal14450: sure.. try it
[23:55] <holstein> hal14450: /q Lesh_
[23:56] <hal14450> ty holstein
[23:56] <holstein>  /q Lesh138 now :)
[23:56] <hal14450> got it
[23:56] <Lesh138> nice, thank you holstein
[23:56] <hal14450> thanks again holstein
[23:57] <holstein> sure.. enjoy.. wish i could hang and help more