[04:28] <hyperair> is ubuntu's default io scheduler now deadline?
[04:28]  * hyperair is using a xorg-edgers kernel which is set to deadline by default.
[04:37] <RAOF> hyperair: Looks like it.
[04:38] <georgeph1> does anybody know why wireless messes up dmesg 
[04:38]  * hyperair wonders why
[04:38] <georgeph1> any kernel gurus in here
[04:38] <hyperair> by "messes up dmesg" do you mean spews a lot of crap?
[04:39] <georgeph1> hyperair...yea..so much that you lose a lot of the dmesg info prior to all that endless wireless stuff
[04:39] <hyperair> i get that too.. well it's just iwl being verbose
[04:39] <georgeph1> hyperair...does dmesg only have a fixed buffer length for storing info
[04:40] <hyperair> yes it does.
[04:40] <georgeph1> hyperair...so with all that wireless junk..it just loses the preceding dmesg info
[04:40] <hyperair> think about it, linux servers can go on and on for years. if dmesg stored everything from bootup, it would spend all its memory just storing kernel log messages.
[04:40] <hyperair> eh well i think you're lucky to be worrying about wifi being verbose. ¬_¬
[04:41] <hyperair> [624797.517860] CPU2: Package power limit notification (total events = 370006)
[04:41] <hyperair> [624797.517862] CPU3: Package power limit notification (total events = 370018)
[04:41] <hyperair> [624797.517880] CPU1: Package power limit notification (total events = 370008)
[04:41] <hyperair> [624797.517881] CPU0: Package power limit notification (total events = 370008)
[04:41] <hyperair> i get that instead.
[04:41] <hyperair> a *lot* of them.
[04:41] <georgeph1> hyperair...well i need to see dmesg quite often...to see what is being allocated where...and i lose all that info because of the massive wireless stuff
[04:41] <hyperair> then don't look at dmesg.
[04:41] <hyperair> look at kern.log
[04:42] <georgeph1> hyperair...is there any way to just squelch the neverending wireless data
[04:42] <hyperair> no idea.
[04:42] <georgeph1> hyperair...the only fix i have right now..is to keep rebooting when i need dmesg info...and that is not a good solution
[04:43] <hyperair> 12:41:44 <hyperair> look at kern.log
[04:43] <hyperair> everything's stored there.
[04:43] <RAOF> georgeph1: dmesg is logged to /var/log/kern.log (among other places), and *that'll* store everything since bootup.
[04:43] <hyperair> good god, rebooting when dmesg info is needed..
[04:43] <georgeph1> hyperair...ok...i will look into that..but i also would like to see about a mechanism to squelch that neverending wireless info
[04:43]  * hyperair jumps off a cliff
[04:44] <hyperair> i don't know, there's probably some CONFIG_something that you can disable
[04:44] <hyperair> or some module option somewhere
[04:44] <hyperair> that i don't know about
[04:45] <georgeph1> hyperair...this wireless stuff is somewhat of a pain on any kernel...in windows...i find that the printer driver interferes with the wireless driver and i start losing a lot of data in ping
[04:46] <georgeph1> hyperair...so when i need internet access i have to just turn the printer off and not load its driver
[04:47] <hyperair> georgeph1: can you stop putting this large amount of dots in each sentence?
[04:47] <hyperair> with each successive string of dots i see, i get this much closer to reaching through my monitor and strangling you.
[04:47] <hyperair> also, i don't give a damn about windows.
[04:48] <georgeph1> hyperair...well you would have a difficult time because i wouldn't mind unloading this colt45 up your ass
[04:48] <hyperair> i'll pass. why don't you try it on yourself first?
[04:49] <georgeph1> hyperair..some people believe in christianity...but i believe in momenum of a bullet when necessary
[04:49] <hyperair> i believe in /ignore.
[04:50] <rio21509> bullet??? we are talking about kernel on a free chat... calm down guys
[04:50] <ohsix> threats of violence are offtopic in the civilized world (and on freenode)
[04:52] <hyperair> hmm was it a freenode policy? i thought it was an ubuntu thing.
[04:52] <ohsix> it would be contrary to the ubuntu code of conduct too, but that doesn't get you off the network
[04:54] <georgeph1> ohsix...well i am an anarchist and all i can say is if your morals/ethics/laws/code of conduct interferes with self defense...you can go to hell with it
[04:54] <ohsix> you can fuck off to whatever island where shooting people is ok then
[04:55] <ohsix> but you live in a socienty
[04:55] <hyperair> now now, ohsix, fuck is not an acceptable word on an ubuntu channel.
[04:55] <hyperair> (i was tempted too)
[04:56] <ohsix> i'll note that you're hyper primed for "self defense", to which you answer with a bullet; to words on the internet, on irc
[04:56] <ohsix> and he just said your manner was annoying
[05:02] <georgeph1> ohsix i think you should learn how to read and note he threatened to strangle me first. that is enough for me to blow him away and never look back
[05:02] <ohsix> yea, no
[05:02] <ohsix> his reaction is reasonable
[05:02] <ohsix> and on order with your behaviour
[05:02] <ohsix> yours is completely insane
[05:03] <georgeph1> ohsix well around here his reaction will get him put in an early grave and i would not mind taking a shit on it afterwards
[05:03] <ohsix> like i said, you're welcome to do that, but not in a society; being an anarchist isn't an excuse to act like that either
[05:04] <ohsix> but i suspect that behaviour is exactly why you went out of your way to identify yourself immediately
[05:06]  * hyperair meant it to be a funny figure of speech, considering you can't really pass through a computer monitor. looks like it didn't work.
[05:07] <ohsix> even if you were serious, you didn't threaten mortal harm for what amounts to slight social adjustment, then say that you can shoot anyone because of your beliefs and nothing else
[05:09] <georgeph1> ohsix..you can go fuck yourself too because you won't make a molehill out of a mountain around here with your slick-talk shit
[05:10] <ohsix> heh, projecting his unacceptable behaviour onto my reaction to it, gg
[05:10] <hyperair> oh well, at least it's in the past now.
[05:12] <ohsix> hah, he's in houston texas
[05:13]  * hyperair wonders if they still wave guns around all the time there.
[05:13] <ohsix> they're not that crazy
[05:14] <ohsix> that's survivalist/nwo/aryan nation crazy
[05:14] <hyperair> haha
[11:21] <AlanBell> hi, can someone help me read this stack trace of kvm falling over? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427352/
[11:23] <AlanBell> it came back fine after a reboot, but I would like to know how to search for a known issue, or if this points to some particular problem
[11:28] <cking> AlanBell, do you have any more of that stack trace, it seems to be missing the first few lines
[11:30] <henrix> apw: hi! there are a few HV related bugs to be verified in Precise. do you think you'll be able to take a look at them?
[11:32] <AlanBell> cking: previous line in /var/log/messages is Dec 11 06:45:17 libertushost2 rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="4.2.0" x-pid="2332" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] rsyslogd was HUPed, type 'lightweight'.
[11:34] <cking> AlanBell, I was looking for the text that follows " ------------[ cut here ]------------"
[11:34] <AlanBell> where should I look for that? One of the other log files?
[11:35] <cking> AlanBell,  /var/log/kern.log 
[11:36] <cking> I think this looks similar: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/net/1102.0/00008.html
[11:36] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427383/
[11:38] <cking> AlanBell, can you file a bug so we can get some more info on the kernel + machine, and I will put it on my list to look at it
[11:39] <AlanBell> sure, do you want me to run ubuntu-bug on the server?
[11:40] <AlanBell> oh, no apport
[11:40] <cking> yep, apport please
[11:40]  * AlanBell installs
[11:40] <cking> and include the full stack dump and I will take a look at it later today or tomorrow
[11:41] <AlanBell> so ubuntu-bug kvm?
[11:41] <AlanBell> or ubuntu-bug linux?
[11:42] <cking> ubuntu-bug linux will do and let me know the bug number and I will assign it to me
[11:46] <AlanBell> Bug #1089341
[11:46] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1089341 in linux (Ubuntu) "KVM crash kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.32/arch/x86/kvm/mmu.c:635!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1089341
[11:46] <cking> ta
[11:47] <cking> AlanBell, how frequently is this happening?
[11:48] <AlanBell> not frequently at all
[11:48] <ppisati> brb
[11:49] <cking> it's on my buglist, I will get back to it 
[11:49] <AlanBell> thanks
[12:51]  * henrix -> lunch
[12:52] <uKev> hi
[12:53] <uKev> I think I got a serious bug regarding 12.04 and mdadm with reshape
[12:53] <uKev> http://beta.pastee.com/api/get/7cw58/raw
[12:53] <uKev> 5 disk setup raid6
[12:53] <uKev> add another disk
[12:54] <uKev> reshape -> complete filesystem hung, /proc/mdstat is not accessable
[12:54] <uKev> nor any other program
[12:54] <uKev> I found one guy having similiar issues with reshape of raid5: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/1001019
[12:54] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1001019 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Mdadm crash on raid5 reshape" [Undecided,New]
[13:06] <uKev> here is another one: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1080646.html
[14:12]  * ppisati -> reboot
[14:22] <jpds> Shouldn't ceph.ko be part of the -virtual kernel?
[14:42] <ogasawara> bug 1063784
[14:42] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1063784 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ceph module not installed" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1063784
[15:05] <bjf> infinity, once upon a time we were going to get another ppc builder (or two) did that not happen?
[15:11] <bjf> pgraner, ^ ?
[15:12] <arges> jpds, ceph.ko is in the next version of the kernel... i just checked precise, and raring
[15:20] <jpds> arges: For -virtual? Cool.
[15:24]  * ogasawara back in 20
[15:50] <infinity> bjf: It's still happening, I just can't promise dates.
[15:51] <bjf> infinity, it's been like more than 6 months hasn't it?
[16:18] <hallyn> huh, odd acpi badness killing my wifi (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427833/) in quantal
[16:22] <hallyn> again and again
[16:25] <hallyn> keeps happening when i try to dput a kernel to ppa
[16:26] <cking> hallyn, that's weird, the EC isn't responding after 500ms to produce that error
[16:28] <hallyn> cking: meaning it sounds like a hardware problem?
[16:28] <hallyn> pretty debilitating :)
[16:30] <cking> hallyn, so you doing a dput over ethernet or wireless?
[16:33] <hallyn> cking: wireless.  just tethered a second ago, let's see how that goes
[16:33] <hallyn> it wasn't just dput it turns out.
[16:33] <hallyn> also apport trying to report this bug did the same thing :)
[16:36] <hallyn> seems fine with wire so far.  trying a dput 
[16:36] <hallyn> filed bug 1089470
[16:36] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1089470 in linux (Ubuntu) "Error with wireless network activity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1089470
[16:36] <hallyn> considering upgrading to raring :)
[16:37] <Laney> Anyone know why core dumps are disabled on the Nexus 7's kernel?
[16:38] <cking> hallyn, it may be worth trying that just as a quick way to see if it resolves the issue
[16:38] <hallyn> worst part is this is my router-to-wireless and pxe boot server for other laptops :)
[16:38] <hallyn> cking: or try a raring backport kernel on q?  is that available?
[16:38] <hallyn> well, i'll be leaving the house soon, will try an upgrade later today
[16:39] <cking> hallyn, you could just try a raring kernel, it's worth a punt
[16:39] <hallyn> what's the ppa for that?
[16:40] <cking> hallyn, perhaps I should spin you one with some debug in to see why is happening in the EC handler to produce these timeouts
[16:41] <hallyn> cking: sure, i can slurp it down this afternoon 
[16:41] <cking> I'll update the bug with the details of where to find it etc later on
[16:43] <hallyn> thanks!
[16:43] <arges> ogasawara, hi.
[16:43] <ogasawara> arges: heya
[16:43] <arges> ogasawara, re: ceph module, you are going to handle the SRUs or should I get those patches done for you
[16:44] <arges> ogasawara, whatever is easiest
[16:44] <ogasawara> arges: I can do it, it's a quick fix
[16:44] <arges> ogasawara, ok appreciate it. Next time I'll try reading all the letters in the bug
[16:44] <ogasawara> arges: heh
[17:11]  * ppisati -> gym
[17:34] <brendand> bjf, seems to have been a booboo with the lucid kernel? is that the end of the story now?
[17:34] <brendand> bjf, for your reassurance, everything was fine on our end
[17:39] <henrix> brendand: i guess we still need the cert testing, even if the kernel has been released
[17:40] <henrix> brendand: we don't expect any issues (there was only one CVE fix), but you never know... :)
[17:40] <bjf> brendand, yup, user error. we'd still like it tested
[17:42] <brendand> bjf - i'll update the bug as normal then, everythings okay
[20:19] <BenC> apw: I have some questions about the config stuff you changed for ppc
[20:19] <BenC> Mainly, KVM is disabled (not sure why, but I can fix that)
[20:20] <BenC> and 8250 serial was changed to modular, which kills serial console
[20:20] <apw> BenC, i disabled KVM ?  not intentially, i intended to enable it indeed
[20:21] <apw> BenC, 8250, eek, well that was a risk.  we didn't know why it was not M so now we do, and i will annotate it as needed indeed
[20:22] <apw> BenC, so ... if you could email me with what you need on and why, i'll add it to the annotations so we don't screw it up again
[20:22] <BenC> On freescale boards the 8250 is serial console, so it doesn't help much as a module :)
[20:22] <BenC> Ok
[21:00] <apw> BenC, great
[21:12] <apw> BenC, so is this for all ppc or just specific flavours (8250 ?)
[21:21] <BenC> apw: might as well be all. powermac has 8250 too, but it could definitely be used as a serial console, so good to enable it
[21:33] <bjf> ack
[21:38] <apw> BenC, ack
[22:16] <infinity> Dangit, why is Tim never around when I need him?
[22:18] <infinity> Anyone else want to explain why I shouldn't reject this SRU?
[22:18] <infinity> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/125449320/linux-firmware_1.79.1_1.79.2.diff.gz
[22:18] <infinity> (It looks to be dropping a file, without any explanation)
[22:24] <sforshee> infinity, that does look awfully suspicious. The file that's removed is still present in git.
[22:24] <infinity> sforshee: Yeah, I'm rejecting and mailing Tim.
[22:24] <Sarvatt> definitely looks like a screwup to me
[23:16] <arges> ogasawara, still around?