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stgrabercjwatson: so, while doing some kernel debugging today I noticed that my secureboot setup may have been a bit wrong for a while and it's not completely impossible that my succesful test was with my firmware in setup mode (after having somehow managed to wipe most keys while playing with the keyring), so I'm downloading today's image and will re-test to be sure01:12
stgrabercjwatson: ok, reinstalled, triple checked that SecureBoot is properly enabled and only contains the MS keys and install worked and system worked afterwards01:41
stgraberI did spot one of those efi disk error from grub at boot time though, but it didn't prevent it from loading all the needed files01:41
micahgLaney: thanks02:24
RAOFI wonder if we want to reword the accepted-into-proposed Launchpad bug text to emphasise *writing a comment* (and then setting the appropriate tag).04:45
RAOFI find it awkward to process SRUs that have the verification-done tag as the only activity after acceptance :)04:45
ScottKI agree it's awkward.04:46
ScottKI think that's a good idea.04:47
infinityRAOF: Patches welcome.05:06
RAOFinfinity: https://code.launchpad.net/~raof/ubuntu-archive-tools/sru-accept-message-bikeshed/+merge/139384 :P05:06
ScottKinfinity: Any idea where https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/networkmanagement/0.9.0.5-0ubuntu1.1 went?05:36
ScottKI have the "waiting for approval" mail, but it seems vanished.05:36
* ScottK uploads it again and waits to see what happens.05:38
ScottKBecause it would be really nice to get that accepted for precise/quantal since we have another one about ready.05:39
infinityScottK: The 404 implies it went nowhere...05:45
ScottKAnd it just did it again.05:45
ScottKDespite the queuebot, it seems to have gone into the ether again.05:45
infinityI see it in unapproved.05:46
infinityTwice.05:46
infinityhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=network05:46
ScottKFacepalm.05:46
infinityShould we pass around a jar for new glasses?05:46
* ScottK somehow ended up looking in New, not Unapproved.05:47
ScottKI rejected the extra one.05:47
ScottKIt would be nice to get that one in and done as it's presence is (I think) cyphermox excuse for waiting to do the next one ...05:48
infinityAfter I finish my next round of glibc uploads, I think my "I'm on vacation, but a workaholic" mode will be mostly queue reviews.05:51
ScottKExcellent.06:03
* ScottK wonders what to do about sivp and the opencv transition. The sivp armhf binary (that jamespage already tried to fix) is the only thing standing between raring-proposed and raring for opencv and a stack of other packages.06:09
* ScottK could see either forcing the whole mess through and leaving sivp armhf out of date for now or doing a binary removal.06:09
infinityScottK: I'd rather not do either.  If it's FTBFS without the source changing, it points to something elsewhere that really needs fixing, not ignoring.06:20
ScottKSo just leave the whole transition waiting?06:20
infinityFor now, anyway.  Not indefinitely, obviously.06:21
infinityI'll see if I can get someone to look a bit deeper.06:21
dokoinfinity, still awake?08:05
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dokoplease don't accept the -defaults packages until powerpc is built10:29
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Laneyis ross a higher-specced machine than adare?11:10
cjwatsonLaney: IIRC they're nominally identical11:13
LaneyI ask because I got a timeout on webkit/adare and I checked the last few builds and they all went to ross or sulfur and were successful11:13
dokothe linux-ppc build was faster on adare too11:32
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stgraberagain? :)15:34
ScottKstgraber: Yes.  Getting debian/copyright done right is SOOOO much fun.15:44
* ScottK did 14 uploads yesterday to fix ones that got by him.15:44
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ScottKinfinity or cjwatson: Any thoughts on why this migrated before it was built on all archs? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/kapman/4:4.9.90-0ubuntu117:30
plarsI did a bit of looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1081721 yesterday and it seems that ubuntu-vm-builder doesn't use grub2 by default. It looks like in the past, grub-pc is an extra package that the auto-upgrade-testing scripts install at some point, but it doesn't seem that they automatically force the conversion to grub2 when they run.17:32
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1081721 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "quantal to raring upgrade: do-release-upgrade fails to install the new kernel" [Undecided,New]17:32
cjwatsonScottK: Because it was new17:32
plarsI'm curious if anyone has thoughts on why it ever worked in precise, quantal... but not now17:32
cjwatsonplars: vm-builder has awful amounts of release name hardcoding17:32
infinityScottK: Migration only checks if it's out-of-date.17:33
ScottKOh.17:33
infinityScottK: If it didn't previously exist on $arch, it can't be out of date.17:33
plarscjohnston: indeed it does, but I don't think anything related to that changed17:33
cjwatsonplars: the release name is now "raring"? :-)17:33
plarserr... cjwatson rather, sorry cjohnston17:33
cjwatsonor, well, I don't know, but when I looked at this last the vm-builder code was sufficiently obviously wrong (I think it had been last updated around natty, so was defaulting to ancient-mode for anything current) that I stopped looking17:34
cjwatsonOn the principle that once you've found a giant glaring problem it isn't worth looking for more17:34
ScottKIt's new source, but not new binaries.17:34
ScottKThe binary is out of date on powerpc now.17:35
plarscjwatson: the diff in the plugins between quantal, precise, oneiric... is pretty much just the name though17:35
cjwatsonHuh.  Probably a bug in britney2 then.17:35
cjwatsonplars: Honestly I don't know that it's worth investigating beyond the obvious thing.17:35
infinityScottK: Oh, that's a bit unfortunate.17:35
ScottKThat's why I was surprised.17:36
cjwatsonUpdate it to do sensible things for current release names.17:36
cjwatsonIf it still goes wrong, then it might be worth investigating.  But as it is it's just hopelessly incorrect.17:36
infinityScottK: Was that the only such fallout from the kdegames (I assume?) split?17:36
infinityScottK: If so, I scored it up, and it'll solve itself shortly.17:36
ScottKinfinity: It's the only one I noticed.17:36
plarscjwatson: true, I'm looking to work around it, just wanting to make sure that we don't miss something legitimate in the process17:36
cjwatsonWhy work around rather than fix?17:37
ScottKinfinity: Given the number of KDE users on powerpc, I'm not overly concerned about the games packages.  I'm mostly worried do our tools DTRT.17:37
infinityScottK: Yeah, agreed.17:37
ScottKOK.  There's my bug report ...17:38
cjwatsonThere's no point in auto-upgrade-testing testing upgrades from this artificially created scenario that doesn't correspond to anything installed since, er, 9.10 or thereabouts17:38
jibelplars, vm-builder is deprecated and auto-upgrade-testing must migrate to a solution that is maintained . A local cloud image + cloud-init for the initial setup is a viable solution.17:48
jibelThat's something I never had time to do last cycle but must definitely be done.17:48
jibelthe server team has a BP about it https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-vmbuilder17:48
plarsjibel: does anyone else use auto-upgrade-testing though? I think our current plans are to move the upgrade testing to utah once utah can support things like snapshotting17:49
jibelplars, with vmbulder the only workaround is to fix the vm manually17:49
jibelplars, stgraber uses it for the flavor, but he uses the lxc backend IIRC17:49
jibel*flavors17:49
ScottKinfinity: Now we get to find out what happens with a build for -proposed when the source is already copied to release and deleted ...17:50
cjwatsonThat happens lots.  It's fine.17:50
plarsjibel: ok, I'll plan on just editing the template images for the time being then, it's a one-time thing in any case17:50
cjwatsonWell, I think there's a bit of raciness if the copy fails, but other than that it's known to work.17:51
ScottKOK.  Good to know.17:52
xnoxjibel: plars: utah can install systems from an ISO and reboot them, all that needs doing is ask utah to use old image, provision, and execute $ ssh do-release-upgrade in the runlist.17:58
plarsxnox: yeah, I think it's mostly just missing the ability to recycle an old image at the moment, and a small amount of scripting around that. I'm not up on the current plans and whether they are much beyond that, but that's probably about all that's needed17:59
xnoxplars: what do you mean by "recycle"?17:59
* xnox thinks reboot & continue work is in progress.17:59
plarsxnox: one that it didn't just install from a preseed17:59
plarsxnox: we don't want it building the base image every time, because some of those base images take a *very* long time to build18:00
xnoxinteresting. I see.18:00
jibelxnox, we also want to create images with a specific set of packages, or upgrade with -proposed enabled, or the release-upgrader from bzr, ...18:01
xnoxjibel: why would you want -proposed?18:02
jibelxnox, for LTS or SRUs18:02
jibels/or/and18:03
xnoxjibel: sounds like you want piuparts & loads of disk-space =)18:03
xnoxack.18:03
jibelxnox, it is not only about "installability" but also verify that upgrade paths are correct. We used it to verify apt fixes for example.18:04
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doko... and everything is blocked on powerpc18:58
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ScottKIt would be ever so nice if some kind AA could hit accept on the opendmarc sync in New (it's my sync).  I'd like to backport it, but it needs to be in raring first ...22:43
slangasekaccepted (hope you weren't expecting me to look at it first)22:52
ScottKslangasek: Thanks.23:04
ScottKNo.  I was not.23:04
ScottKIt's a Debian sync, so I think it got as much looking as it needs.23:05
slangasekI would argue a self-accept is equally appropriate, then :)23:05
ScottKOK.  Noted.23:06
ScottKThanks.23:07
slangasekn/p23:10
infinityScottK: Debian syncs in NEW don't need any serious review, except maybe to note that it's not someone trying to fool the blacklist.23:27
infinityScottK: (basically, the same cursory non-review we do for autosyncs)23:27
ScottKRight.  That's all I would do, but I was, I guess, being too much of a stickler about the no-self accepts.23:34
ScottKJFTR, the list of rejects is shorter this time.  We are making progress.23:34
* infinity frowns as the ongoing kdegames queue saga.23:43

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