/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/12/12/#ubuntu-uk.txt

Ruintnn00:10
Ruintbedtime for me too00:36
Ruintnite00:36
jacobwmorning08:50
* Laney watches the tumbleweed09:20
popeyhttp://tumbleweed.popey.com/09:21
Laneythat09:22
popeyon of the guys I work with from Finland says "that" in the morning09:24
popeyme: "morning"09:24
popeyhim: "that"09:24
SuperMattmotninh guys09:27
SuperMattmorning, even09:27
JamesTaitHappy mic check day, folks! :-D09:30
DJonesMorning all09:30
SuperMatt9 days until the world ends09:32
SuperMattwooo09:32
Laneyi'm going to start using "now then"09:33
* Laney tries hard to grow a yorkshire accent09:34
DavieyJamesTait: hah09:41
=== mrevell_ is now known as mrevell
daubersGood Moaning10:27
solarcloud_3scrnMorning All.10:30
DJonesCan anybody think of software to print cd labels on pressit compatible label paper? I'm trying to find something that doesn't need a lot of fiddling to get the positioning right on the page10:31
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=== Moz is now known as Guest43200
=== cking_ is now known as cking
Laneysurvived 1:15 of Laverne this morning11:16
AlanBellmorning all11:17
LaneyAlas I can take no more. Radio: OFF.11:17
AlanBellanyone know how to read kernel stack traces like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427352/11:17
AlanBellkvm died, I get that bit, but what bit of that should I be googling to find if it is a known issue?11:18
einonmAlanBell: sure. It says 'you're screwed' :)11:18
dwatkinsif it's anything like IRIX, the last system call was kvm_mmu_zap_page11:18
davmor2AlanBell: you need magic stacktrace glasses ;)11:18
davmor2AlanBell: you can ask on #ubuntu-kernel11:18
* popey points AlanBell at cking :)11:19
einonmbut try around the kvm_mmu_zap_page+0x84/0x380 [kvm] line and down, that's the call stack. Top item(s) are where the issue would be11:19
davmor2AlanBell: they can possibly point you to some related docs11:19
mungbeanguys, anyone using chrome , and cannot click fullscreen in youtube anymore?11:20
mungbeanits since the youtube site change i think11:23
davmor2mungbean: works fine here on 12.04 what version are you running?11:24
mungbean12.0411:25
mungbeanon flash videos rather than html511:25
ckingAlanBell, I suggest filing a bug, this may need some deeper thought11:25
mungbeandavmor2: which version of chrome? i am on 23.0.1271.6411:30
davmor2 23.0.1271.9511:30
davmor2mungbean: ^11:30
mungbeanhm11:30
mungbeanapplying changes11:31
directhex<directhex> Paul McCartney to replace Kurt Cobain in Nirvana reunion11:32
directhex<directhex> http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/dec/12/paul-mccartney-kurt-cobain-nirvana11:32
mungbeanjoke, right?11:32
mgdmthe onion have hacked the grauniad, surely11:32
davmor2directhex: oh yeah such an obvious pairing.......oh wait11:33
directhexMcCartney said: "I didn't really know who they were. They are saying how good it is to be back together. I said: 'Whoa? You guys haven't played together for all that time?'11:35
solarcloud_3scrn12/12/12, 12:12:12 soon !11:37
directhexi'm hungry. someone DCC me a pizza.11:38
jacobwdirecthex: that's strange11:41
jacobwdirecthex: mccartney/cobain, not pizza11:41
directhexso no pizza for directhex? :(11:42
jacobwnot from me :p11:44
Laney12/12 11:49:19  directhex SEND: 0B of 672B (0%) - 0.00kB/s - ETA (stalled) - pizza11:49
Laney;(11:49
mungbeanhey davmor2 crisis over, the chrome update fixed it, ta11:58
davmor2mungbean: good11:59
mungbeananyone use clementine?12:00
mungbeangetting some crashes, wuold like to get someone to verify12:01
davmor2mungbean: if it is crashing and you get an apport dialogue from it just keep reporting the issue and it should get the devs attention12:08
AlanBellhappy 12/12/12 12:12:12 or therabouts12:13
solarcloud_3scrnAlanBell, Happy retuens yourself !!12:15
solarcloud_3scrn**returns12:15
Laneyblast, missed it!12:16
solarcloud_3scrnhttps://plus.google.com/101579422741533419411/posts/GkaXcMLifNY12:16
Laney"daddy, what were you doing at 121212 12/12/12? building debug packages for a mp3 decoding library, son"12:17
solarcloud_3scrnhttps://plus.google.com/101416609667524559141/posts/enzrJamuffG12:17
solarcloud_3scrnNo tidal wave, No solar eclipse, No typhon .. this is very dissappointing .. Who do I complain to ? And, No, god does not exist !12:21
solarcloud_3scrn**typhoon..12:21
solarcloud_3scrnUk premier of The Hobbit tonight !12:45
andylockranyup12:51
andylockranshould be fun; a mate is taking his mum for Xmas12:51
* solarcloud_3scrn has just realised that 12:12:12 is not happening at the same time all over the world :(12:52
solarcloud_3scrnandylockran, I hear it is not as good as LOTR .. but I will still get the download ..12:58
mungbeanwe may wait for dvd as i hear it is 3hrs +12:59
mungbeanwill need a babysitter for whole afternoon13:00
RaycisCharlessolarcloud_3scrn: it is happening at the same time - time zones are an artificial construct.13:33
RaycisCharlesOf course, the only correct time is GMT or GMT+1.13:33
solarcloud_3scrnreally ?13:33
RaycisCharlesYes, really.13:33
RaycisCharlesAll other time zones are political correctness gone mad.13:33
* solarcloud_3scrn is not sure ..13:34
solarcloud_3scrnRaycisCharles, What presidence are you tryig to construct ??13:34
* RaycisCharles brain assplode13:36
solarcloud_3scrneasy cowboy !13:36
mungbeanrewarding potty training with temple run http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3MNFrwpGHQ14:01
mungbeanmakes the little fella so happy14:02
popeyfriend of mine rewarded potty training with pieces of brio track14:06
mungbeangood idea14:06
mungbeancurrently doing 1 sticker, 1 choc button and 10 attempts on temple run14:07
mungbeanif whole day with no accidents then larger prizes available14:07
mungbeantiring work14:07
mungbeanwanna go bak to work for a rest14:07
mungbeanapparently toad in the hole is a prize too14:08
solarcloud_3scrnToday is national sound check day 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2.14:39
solarcloud_3scrnAnyone gardening today ?? https://plus.google.com/104455109882694931155/posts/2BjJREiL4oL14:45
bigcalmAfternoon peeps14:48
* SuperMatt peeps at bigcalm 14:49
bigcalmI say!14:49
dutchieo/ bigcalm14:54
MooDoohello all15:18
bigcalmdutchie: haven't seen you around here for a while15:25
bigcalmHi MooDoo15:25
davmor2mrevell: Hey dude so can I pin down your maybe a bit more now?15:34
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
davmor2gord: you gonna come down on Thursday you maybe too busy to ever come again :)15:34
gordi have plague15:35
dutchiebigcalm: not been around in here is why15:35
davmor2gord: you stay at home with your manflu then15:35
gordit is plague :(15:35
gordlondon gave it to me, london is full of plague15:36
czajkowskihahah15:40
davmor2gord: ah sprint flu15:41
gordsprints are great, you bring 20 people from all over the world together to swap diseases15:43
davmor2gord: we had 50 odd in a smallish room15:44
Laneythey should give out face masks15:46
creativetuxDoes anyone know of a DVB-T viewer like Kaffeine that supports multiple frontends but isn't KDE ?15:58
einonmcreativetux: you mean like VLC or mplayer? Not sure exactly what you're trying to achieve16:07
creativetuxMy Hauppage has multiple frontends, DVB-T and DVB-S along with a few others, Kaffeine supports using multiple frontends so it works, but its KDE and I don't run KDE16:08
creativetuxSo looking for alternative TV viewer for use with it16:08
davmor2creativetux: you can still install Kaffeine16:09
einonmI think you can still install kde stuff on gnome16:09
creativetuxYeah I ahve done but its extra stuff I don't really want or need on the system16:09
jacobwcreativetux: does VLC support that?16:09
bigcalmmrevell: can you confirm attendance for Thursday?16:09
creativetuxI'll check jacobw16:09
mrevellbigcalm, Is it still just in the cafe?16:10
bigcalmYes16:10
davmor2creativetux: tvtime, vlc, metv, totem with a bit of kicking and screaming..........16:10
mrevellHmm. I have a few calls that could do with a more private area. I can't commit but it's not definitely a no.16:10
creativetuxvlc will probably but doesn't have a nice way of changing channels, tvtime supports multiple frontends now and DVB-T?16:11
einonmcreativetux: or there's distro based things like xbmc or myth-tv16:11
bigcalmdavmor2: do you want to do it with just the 2 of us?16:11
davmor2bigcalm: that sounds so wrong16:11
creativetuxmyth is way too much over the top16:11
creativetuxI dont think tvtime is DVB-T16:12
einonmIf you like kaffeine and have a standard PC setup, do the extra packages really matter for a technical reason, or are you just being picky about it?16:13
bigcalmdavmor2: I would say that it was your mind at fault :P16:13
creativetuxIts extra weight and resources I could use elsewhere16:14
davmor2bigcalm: I wouldn't argue with that, erm I'll leave that up to you as it is you that has to do the travelling really16:14
bigcalmTrue16:15
bigcalmLets see how I feel after the LUG xmas meal tonight ;)16:15
einonmcreativetux: use mplayer on the cmdln if you're needing to use it with as little resources as possible16:15
creativetuxeinonm: got a viable solution to the problem, I'm sure the Mrs wouldn't approve of command line just to watch tv!16:16
einonm:) Hmm, is 'extra weight and resources I could use elsewhere' being picky, or can you measure the difference?16:18
creativetuxits running on a media pc Atom CPU I need to spare everything I can.  I think dvb-client and dvb-daemon might work!16:19
creativetuxok, its scanning channels now, this could work along with the totem plugin16:23
Azelphurwtf, BT just told me it's gonna take till feb 2013 to get internet connected16:42
* Azelphur cancels that so hard16:42
SuperMatt-.-16:43
SuperMattI don't understand why anything should take longer than a week16:44
SuperMattif you got backlog, hire more people to clear it16:44
Azelphurindeed16:44
creativetuxWhat area are you in Azelphur16:44
AzelphurMargate, Kent16:44
creativetuxso not rural then, thats an insane lead time16:45
Azelphuryea lol16:45
creativetuxunless the exchange isn't ready?16:45
Azelphurthey didn't even give me an appointment, they just said I would be contacted to arrange an appointment in feb 201316:45
Azelphurnah the exchange is ready16:45
creativetuxMargate says 20Mb Upload with infinity, darn, I get 10! LOL16:48
Azelphurthe lady on the phone acted like it was all normal, fine and dandy, and that I should just go ~3 months without internet/phone haha16:48
gord20mbit upload is nice, but the 80mbit download is nicer17:01
Azelphurany upload or download would be nice :P17:02
MartijnVdShttp://www.speedtest.net/result/2368090704.png17:02
MartijnVdSthough it's actually 100/10017:02
Azelphurshh you17:02
Azelphur:p17:02
TheOpenSourcererFrom my office: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2368098149.png17:06
* MartijnVdS ran shotwell (at home) over ssh -X (from work) today17:06
MartijnVdSand it performed acceptably17:06
jacobwevening18:04
MartijnVdS\o18:17
jacobwo/18:20
solarcloud_3scrnAnyone listening to the ubuntu-uk podcast ?? http://uupc.tonywhitmore.co.uk/uupc/s05/e21/uupc_s05e21.mp318:20
jacobwnot right now18:20
jacobwi guess i could :|18:20
solarcloud_3scrnguess i've been listening for 30 minutes now :)18:21
solarcloud_3scrnheres the notes / website ... http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/18:22
MartijnVdSsolarcloud_3scrn: we know :)18:31
solarcloud_3scrnMartijnVdS, I did leave a voice mail this week for them.18:34
* popey listens to the voicemail18:39
AzelphurI'm starting to feel like I live in an Internet black hole19:38
solarcloud_3scrnAzelphur, Sounds like a new Red Dwarf episode :)20:14
Azelphurindeed20:14
AzelphurBT: We can connect you some time after February, maybe20:14
AzelphurSky: Our availability checker is bugged so we can't proceed with the order, and rectifying this issue is likely to take months20:14
Azelphur:<20:15
RaycisCharlesThey hate you.20:16
Azelphurit's true20:16
solarcloud_3scrnhas anyone got /anything/ positive to say here ?20:17
popeyI like tacos20:18
RaycisCharlessolarcloud_3scrn: yeah, Mint rulez.20:19
solarcloud_3scrnRaycisCharles, I am distrurbed by the lack of cheer in you .. maybe I'll ignore you .. thinking about it.20:20
RaycisCharlesGo hang yourself, solarcloud_3scrn.20:32
solarcloud_3scrnlovely.20:33
RaycisCharleshttp://www.amazon.co.uk/NATURAL-20mm-Decking-Boating-Climbing/dp/B008FQJOVM/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1355344550&sr=8-13 Add this to your basket20:36
Azelphuryea, this sucks lol20:41
Azelphursky won't sell me anything because of a bug, BT are gonna connect me sometime maybe never20:41
Azelphur:<20:41
MartijnVdSaww20:41
popeyvirgin?20:42
Azelphurpopey: no cable here20:42
popeywell that was silly :)20:42
Azelphurunless virgin do FTTC now?20:42
MartijnVdSAzelphur: http://uk.ses-broadband.com/20:42
AzelphurMartijnVdS: haha20:43
RaycisCharlesAzelphur, they have for a long time.20:43
RaycisCharlesAzelphur: http://www.trangobroadband.com/20:44
AzelphurRaycisCharles: lol20:44
RaycisCharlesMount one on the side of MartijnVdS's wooden shoe house.20:44
MartijnVdSಠ_ಠ20:45
RaycisCharlesWe used to have a laser link between two campuses20:45
MartijnVdSRaycisCharles: too bad it's foggy so often in the UK ;)20:45
RaycisCharlesThe link would always go down from time to time. Turns out one transmitter was facing the sun with no filter.20:46
RaycisCharlesIt was like that for 5 years lol.20:46
RaycisCharlesIDJITS20:46
directhexAzelphur, virgin's "fibre optic broadband" is fttc, but it's carried over docsis3 cable, not bt phone lines, from cabinet -> home20:49
Azelphurdirecthex: yea, I meant BT FTTC rather than Virgin FTTC20:51
Azelphurwhy won't anybody take my money20:51
Azelphur:<20:51
RaycisCharlesYour money's no good here.20:52
MartijnVdSAzelphur: next time, check before moving :P20:56
jacobwlol20:56
L0kia while ago there was a program to change the brightness of the screen according to the time of day...Any ideas pse?21:01
L0kifound it....F.lux......21:06
RaycisCharlesF.lux is a good app.21:27
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AzelphurHad a good talk with a specialist at sky, they can connect me now, the deal they are offering isn't exactly great though :(22:12
directhexAzelphur, at 10pm??!?123:01
Azelphuryep23:02
Azelphurhttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2012/December/Superfast%20Fibre%20Broadband%20-%20TalkTalk-225505.png23:03
Azelphurtalktalk gives me amazing estimated download speeds23:03
AlanBellpopey: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/pics/pano1.jpg23:09
AlanBellfun with cameras :)23:09
czajkowskiAlanBell: nice23:10
popeyhaha23:10
AlanBellso that was 20 exposures, averaged with imagemagic then move the camera left 200px then repeat that 10 times then stitch together in hugin23:11
AlanBellif I make the loops bigger I think I can do a *huge* image of really quite high quality23:12
AlanBelljust by taking stacks of snapshots and moving the camera a little bit each time and sorting it out in software23:13
AlanBellzoom, enhance! just like CSI :)23:13
popeyput 4 on top of your car, drive around and sell the pictures to google images :D23:15
popeys/images/streetview/23:15
AlanBellhttp://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/cam/pad there is loads of noise in the original image but blending lots of them gets rid of it all23:15
AlanBelldrive around *slowly*23:15
Azelphurwhat is the general opinion of talktalk these days? they seem to have an unlimited 76mbit plan that is substantially cheaper than most other providers23:16
Myrttiwe're on TalkTalk Business for whatever reason, inlaws are moving over from Business to the Private plan with the Youview box deal23:22
Myrttiour location is in the middle of Hicksville where there's little more action than the odd rabbit here and there and swooshing of the windmills, but we get 12-14 out of 16 that we pay for23:23
Azelphurnice23:24
Myrttiwe just seem to have poor luck with whatever networking gear we're using23:25
MyrttiI've said this before but it's worth repeating so nobody does the same mistakes - Don't Buy Belkin23:26
Azelphurhaha23:26
Myrttinext time might consider just buying a ADSL router and hooking up a Fon 2.0n box on it, I'm sure it can't get worse than what the Belkin does.23:27
czajkowskipopey: I've outdone myself this time, packed for mondays flight today23:28
czajkowskiI think I may have a bit of ocd :s23:28
MyrttiI hate Belkin gear with the power of thousand burning suns nowadays and I can't recommend their networking gear to anyone.23:28
Myrttinot even my worse enemies23:28
shaunoczajkowski: I'm jealous.  I usually finish packing while I'm waiting for the taxi23:32
czajkowskishauno: I've the canonical UK xmas do tomorrow night, and a busy weekend ahead of me23:33
shaunoif I'm packed too early, I just get paranoid that I've missed something, and keep repacking until the last minute anyway23:33
czajkowskiso thought it best to be organised23:33
Azelphurhttps://twitter.com/Azelphur/status/279005683100286976 hehe23:33
AlanBellI think my megapanorama is working :)23:35
Myrttialso: Wohey, Ingress! and also: Wohey, Google Play Magazines23:50
Myrttioh dear god23:53
MyrttiI looked for Linux magazines and guess who's ugly mug stares at me now in the damned Google Play Magazines store screenshots23:53
popeyjono?23:55
Myrttiyup23:55
popeyheh23:55
Myrttidingdingding23:55
Myrttiyou've won a prize!23:56
popey\o/23:56
popeydid I win a jono?23:56
mgdmYes. A bit like those meerkats.23:56
Myrttishush23:56
Myrttiwe've got meerkat mugs now23:56
popeyi still have a meerkat which grows in water23:56
popeyi bought when on holiday at the point maverick was around23:57
popeyI also have a narwhal23:57
popeytwo in fact23:57
AlanBellhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc23:58
Myrttican't order Linux Format because jono23:58
Myrttiit's tainted now.23:59
mgdmdid he not used to write for it, back in ze day?23:59

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