[00:10] <Ruint> nn
[00:36] <Ruint> bedtime for me too
[00:36] <Ruint> nite
[08:50] <jacobw> morning
[09:20]  * Laney watches the tumbleweed
[09:21] <popey> http://tumbleweed.popey.com/
[09:22] <Laney> that
[09:24] <popey> on of the guys I work with from Finland says "that" in the morning
[09:24] <popey> me: "morning"
[09:24] <popey> him: "that"
[09:27] <SuperMatt> motninh guys
[09:27] <SuperMatt> morning, even
[09:30] <JamesTait> Happy mic check day, folks! :-D
[09:30] <DJones> Morning all
[09:32] <SuperMatt> 9 days until the world ends
[09:32] <SuperMatt> wooo
[09:33] <Laney> i'm going to start using "now then"
[09:34]  * Laney tries hard to grow a yorkshire accent
[09:41] <Daviey> JamesTait: hah
[10:27] <daubers> Good Moaning
[10:30] <solarcloud_3scrn> Morning All.
[10:31] <DJones> Can anybody think of software to print cd labels on pressit compatible label paper? I'm trying to find something that doesn't need a lot of fiddling to get the positioning right on the page
[11:16] <Laney> survived 1:15 of Laverne this morning
[11:17] <AlanBell> morning all
[11:17] <Laney> Alas I can take no more. Radio: OFF.
[11:17] <AlanBell> anyone know how to read kernel stack traces like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427352/
[11:18] <AlanBell> kvm died, I get that bit, but what bit of that should I be googling to find if it is a known issue?
[11:18] <einonm> AlanBell: sure. It says 'you're screwed' :)
[11:18] <dwatkins> if it's anything like IRIX, the last system call was kvm_mmu_zap_page
[11:18] <davmor2> AlanBell: you need magic stacktrace glasses ;)
[11:18] <davmor2> AlanBell: you can ask on #ubuntu-kernel
[11:19]  * popey points AlanBell at cking :)
[11:19] <einonm> but try around the kvm_mmu_zap_page+0x84/0x380 [kvm] line and down, that's the call stack. Top item(s) are where the issue would be
[11:19] <davmor2> AlanBell: they can possibly point you to some related docs
[11:20] <mungbean> guys, anyone using chrome , and cannot click fullscreen in youtube anymore?
[11:23] <mungbean> its since the youtube site change i think
[11:24] <davmor2> mungbean: works fine here on 12.04 what version are you running?
[11:25] <mungbean> 12.04
[11:25] <mungbean> on flash videos rather than html5
[11:25] <cking> AlanBell, I suggest filing a bug, this may need some deeper thought
[11:30] <mungbean> davmor2: which version of chrome? i am on 23.0.1271.64
[11:30] <davmor2>  23.0.1271.95
[11:30] <davmor2> mungbean: ^
[11:30] <mungbean> hm
[11:31] <mungbean> applying changes
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[11:32] <mungbean> joke, right?
[11:32] <mgdm> the onion have hacked the grauniad, surely
[11:33] <davmor2> directhex: oh yeah such an obvious pairing.......oh wait
[11:35] <directhex> McCartney said: "I didn't really know who they were. They are saying how good it is to be back together. I said: 'Whoa? You guys haven't played together for all that time?'
[11:37] <solarcloud_3scrn> 12/12/12, 12:12:12 soon !
[11:38] <directhex> i'm hungry. someone DCC me a pizza.
[11:41] <jacobw> directhex: that's strange
[11:41] <jacobw> directhex: mccartney/cobain, not pizza
[11:42] <directhex> so no pizza for directhex? :(
[11:44] <jacobw> not from me :p
[11:49] <Laney> 12/12 11:49:19  directhex SEND: 0B of 672B (0%) - 0.00kB/s - ETA (stalled) - pizza
[11:49] <Laney> ;(
[11:58] <mungbean> hey davmor2 crisis over, the chrome update fixed it, ta
[11:59] <davmor2> mungbean: good
[12:00] <mungbean> anyone use clementine?
[12:01] <mungbean> getting some crashes, wuold like to get someone to verify
[12:08] <davmor2> mungbean: if it is crashing and you get an apport dialogue from it just keep reporting the issue and it should get the devs attention
[12:13] <AlanBell> happy 12/12/12 12:12:12 or therabouts
[12:15] <solarcloud_3scrn> AlanBell, Happy retuens yourself !!
[12:15] <solarcloud_3scrn> **returns
[12:16] <Laney> blast, missed it!
[12:16] <solarcloud_3scrn> https://plus.google.com/101579422741533419411/posts/GkaXcMLifNY
[12:17] <Laney> "daddy, what were you doing at 121212 12/12/12? building debug packages for a mp3 decoding library, son"
[12:17] <solarcloud_3scrn> https://plus.google.com/101416609667524559141/posts/enzrJamuffG
[12:21] <solarcloud_3scrn> No tidal wave, No solar eclipse, No typhon .. this is very dissappointing .. Who do I complain to ? And, No, god does not exist !
[12:21] <solarcloud_3scrn> **typhoon..
[12:45] <solarcloud_3scrn> Uk premier of The Hobbit tonight !
[12:51] <andylockran> yup
[12:51] <andylockran> should be fun; a mate is taking his mum for Xmas
[12:52]  * solarcloud_3scrn has just realised that 12:12:12 is not happening at the same time all over the world :(
[12:58] <solarcloud_3scrn> andylockran, I hear it is not as good as LOTR .. but I will still get the download ..
[12:59] <mungbean> we may wait for dvd as i hear it is 3hrs +
[13:00] <mungbean> will need a babysitter for whole afternoon
[13:33] <RaycisCharles> solarcloud_3scrn: it is happening at the same time - time zones are an artificial construct.
[13:33] <RaycisCharles> Of course, the only correct time is GMT or GMT+1.
[13:33] <solarcloud_3scrn> really ?
[13:33] <RaycisCharles> Yes, really.
[13:33] <RaycisCharles> All other time zones are political correctness gone mad.
[13:34]  * solarcloud_3scrn is not sure ..
[13:34] <solarcloud_3scrn> RaycisCharles, What presidence are you tryig to construct ??
[13:36]  * RaycisCharles brain assplode
[13:36] <solarcloud_3scrn> easy cowboy !
[14:01] <mungbean> rewarding potty training with temple run http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3MNFrwpGHQ
[14:02] <mungbean> makes the little fella so happy
[14:06] <popey> friend of mine rewarded potty training with pieces of brio track
[14:06] <mungbean> good idea
[14:07] <mungbean> currently doing 1 sticker, 1 choc button and 10 attempts on temple run
[14:07] <mungbean> if whole day with no accidents then larger prizes available
[14:07] <mungbean> tiring work
[14:07] <mungbean> wanna go bak to work for a rest
[14:08] <mungbean> apparently toad in the hole is a prize too
[14:39] <solarcloud_3scrn> Today is national sound check day 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2.
[14:45] <solarcloud_3scrn> Anyone gardening today ?? https://plus.google.com/104455109882694931155/posts/2BjJREiL4oL
[14:48] <bigcalm> Afternoon peeps
[14:49]  * SuperMatt peeps at bigcalm 
[14:49] <bigcalm> I say!
[14:54] <dutchie> o/ bigcalm
[15:18] <MooDoo> hello all
[15:25] <bigcalm> dutchie: haven't seen you around here for a while
[15:25] <bigcalm> Hi MooDoo
[15:34] <davmor2> mrevell: Hey dude so can I pin down your maybe a bit more now?
[15:34] <davmor2> gord: you gonna come down on Thursday you maybe too busy to ever come again :)
[15:35] <gord> i have plague
[15:35] <dutchie> bigcalm: not been around in here is why
[15:35] <davmor2> gord: you stay at home with your manflu then
[15:35] <gord> it is plague :(
[15:36] <gord> london gave it to me, london is full of plague
[15:40] <czajkowski> hahah
[15:41] <davmor2> gord: ah sprint flu
[15:43] <gord> sprints are great, you bring 20 people from all over the world together to swap diseases
[15:44] <davmor2> gord: we had 50 odd in a smallish room
[15:46] <Laney> they should give out face masks
[15:58] <creativetux> Does anyone know of a DVB-T viewer like Kaffeine that supports multiple frontends but isn't KDE ?
[16:07] <einonm> creativetux: you mean like VLC or mplayer? Not sure exactly what you're trying to achieve
[16:08] <creativetux> My Hauppage has multiple frontends, DVB-T and DVB-S along with a few others, Kaffeine supports using multiple frontends so it works, but its KDE and I don't run KDE
[16:08] <creativetux> So looking for alternative TV viewer for use with it
[16:09] <davmor2> creativetux: you can still install Kaffeine
[16:09] <einonm> I think you can still install kde stuff on gnome
[16:09] <creativetux> Yeah I ahve done but its extra stuff I don't really want or need on the system
[16:09] <jacobw> creativetux: does VLC support that?
[16:09] <bigcalm> mrevell: can you confirm attendance for Thursday?
[16:09] <creativetux> I'll check jacobw
[16:10] <mrevell> bigcalm, Is it still just in the cafe?
[16:10] <bigcalm> Yes
[16:10] <davmor2> creativetux: tvtime, vlc, metv, totem with a bit of kicking and screaming..........
[16:10] <mrevell> Hmm. I have a few calls that could do with a more private area. I can't commit but it's not definitely a no.
[16:11] <creativetux> vlc will probably but doesn't have a nice way of changing channels, tvtime supports multiple frontends now and DVB-T?
[16:11] <einonm> creativetux: or there's distro based things like xbmc or myth-tv
[16:11] <bigcalm> davmor2: do you want to do it with just the 2 of us?
[16:11] <davmor2> bigcalm: that sounds so wrong
[16:11] <creativetux> myth is way too much over the top
[16:12] <creativetux> I dont think tvtime is DVB-T
[16:13] <einonm> If you like kaffeine and have a standard PC setup, do the extra packages really matter for a technical reason, or are you just being picky about it?
[16:13] <bigcalm> davmor2: I would say that it was your mind at fault :P
[16:14] <creativetux> Its extra weight and resources I could use elsewhere
[16:14] <davmor2> bigcalm: I wouldn't argue with that, erm I'll leave that up to you as it is you that has to do the travelling really
[16:15] <bigcalm> True
[16:15] <bigcalm> Lets see how I feel after the LUG xmas meal tonight ;)
[16:15] <einonm> creativetux: use mplayer on the cmdln if you're needing to use it with as little resources as possible
[16:16] <creativetux> einonm: got a viable solution to the problem, I'm sure the Mrs wouldn't approve of command line just to watch tv!
[16:18] <einonm> :) Hmm, is 'extra weight and resources I could use elsewhere' being picky, or can you measure the difference?
[16:19] <creativetux> its running on a media pc Atom CPU I need to spare everything I can.  I think dvb-client and dvb-daemon might work!
[16:23] <creativetux> ok, its scanning channels now, this could work along with the totem plugin
[16:42] <Azelphur> wtf, BT just told me it's gonna take till feb 2013 to get internet connected
[16:42]  * Azelphur cancels that so hard
[16:43] <SuperMatt> -.-
[16:44] <SuperMatt> I don't understand why anything should take longer than a week
[16:44] <SuperMatt> if you got backlog, hire more people to clear it
[16:44] <Azelphur> indeed
[16:44] <creativetux> What area are you in Azelphur
[16:44] <Azelphur> Margate, Kent
[16:45] <creativetux> so not rural then, thats an insane lead time
[16:45] <Azelphur> yea lol
[16:45] <creativetux> unless the exchange isn't ready?
[16:45] <Azelphur> they didn't even give me an appointment, they just said I would be contacted to arrange an appointment in feb 2013
[16:45] <Azelphur> nah the exchange is ready
[16:48] <creativetux> Margate says 20Mb Upload with infinity, darn, I get 10! LOL
[16:48] <Azelphur> the lady on the phone acted like it was all normal, fine and dandy, and that I should just go ~3 months without internet/phone haha
[17:01] <gord> 20mbit upload is nice, but the 80mbit download is nicer
[17:02] <Azelphur> any upload or download would be nice :P
[17:02] <MartijnVdS> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2368090704.png
[17:02] <MartijnVdS> though it's actually 100/100
[17:02] <Azelphur> shh you
[17:02] <Azelphur> :p
[17:06] <TheOpenSourcerer> From my office: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2368098149.png
[17:06]  * MartijnVdS ran shotwell (at home) over ssh -X (from work) today
[17:06] <MartijnVdS> and it performed acceptably
[18:04] <jacobw> evening
[18:17] <MartijnVdS> \o
[18:20] <jacobw> o/
[18:20] <solarcloud_3scrn> Anyone listening to the ubuntu-uk podcast ?? http://uupc.tonywhitmore.co.uk/uupc/s05/e21/uupc_s05e21.mp3
[18:20] <jacobw> not right now
[18:20] <jacobw> i guess i could :|
[18:21] <solarcloud_3scrn> guess i've been listening for 30 minutes now :)
[18:22] <solarcloud_3scrn> heres the notes / website ... http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> solarcloud_3scrn: we know :)
[18:34] <solarcloud_3scrn> MartijnVdS, I did leave a voice mail this week for them.
[18:39]  * popey listens to the voicemail
[19:38] <Azelphur> I'm starting to feel like I live in an Internet black hole
[20:14] <solarcloud_3scrn> Azelphur, Sounds like a new Red Dwarf episode :)
[20:14] <Azelphur> indeed
[20:14] <Azelphur> BT: We can connect you some time after February, maybe
[20:14] <Azelphur> Sky: Our availability checker is bugged so we can't proceed with the order, and rectifying this issue is likely to take months
[20:15] <Azelphur> :<
[20:16] <RaycisCharles> They hate you.
[20:16] <Azelphur> it's true
[20:17] <solarcloud_3scrn> has anyone got /anything/ positive to say here ?
[20:18] <popey> I like tacos
[20:19] <RaycisCharles> solarcloud_3scrn: yeah, Mint rulez.
[20:20] <solarcloud_3scrn> RaycisCharles, I am distrurbed by the lack of cheer in you .. maybe I'll ignore you .. thinking about it.
[20:32] <RaycisCharles> Go hang yourself, solarcloud_3scrn.
[20:33] <solarcloud_3scrn> lovely.
[20:36] <RaycisCharles> http://www.amazon.co.uk/NATURAL-20mm-Decking-Boating-Climbing/dp/B008FQJOVM/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1355344550&sr=8-13 Add this to your basket
[20:41] <Azelphur> yea, this sucks lol
[20:41] <Azelphur> sky won't sell me anything because of a bug, BT are gonna connect me sometime maybe never
[20:41] <Azelphur> :<
[20:41] <MartijnVdS> aww
[20:42] <popey> virgin?
[20:42] <Azelphur> popey: no cable here
[20:42] <popey> well that was silly :)
[20:42] <Azelphur> unless virgin do FTTC now?
[20:42] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: http://uk.ses-broadband.com/
[20:43] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: haha
[20:43] <RaycisCharles> Azelphur, they have for a long time.
[20:44] <RaycisCharles> Azelphur: http://www.trangobroadband.com/
[20:44] <Azelphur> RaycisCharles: lol
[20:44] <RaycisCharles> Mount one on the side of MartijnVdS's wooden shoe house.
[20:45] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[20:45] <RaycisCharles> We used to have a laser link between two campuses
[20:45] <MartijnVdS> RaycisCharles: too bad it's foggy so often in the UK ;)
[20:46] <RaycisCharles> The link would always go down from time to time. Turns out one transmitter was facing the sun with no filter.
[20:46] <RaycisCharles> It was like that for 5 years lol.
[20:46] <RaycisCharles> IDJITS
[20:49] <directhex> Azelphur, virgin's "fibre optic broadband" is fttc, but it's carried over docsis3 cable, not bt phone lines, from cabinet -> home
[20:51] <Azelphur> directhex: yea, I meant BT FTTC rather than Virgin FTTC
[20:51] <Azelphur> why won't anybody take my money
[20:51] <Azelphur> :<
[20:52] <RaycisCharles> Your money's no good here.
[20:56] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: next time, check before moving :P
[20:56] <jacobw> lol
[21:01] <L0ki> a while ago there was a program to change the brightness of the screen according to the time of day...Any ideas pse?
[21:06] <L0ki> found it....F.lux......
[21:27] <RaycisCharles> F.lux is a good app.
[22:12] <Azelphur> Had a good talk with a specialist at sky, they can connect me now, the deal they are offering isn't exactly great though :(
[23:01] <directhex> Azelphur, at 10pm??!?1
[23:02] <Azelphur> yep
[23:03] <Azelphur> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2012/December/Superfast%20Fibre%20Broadband%20-%20TalkTalk-225505.png
[23:03] <Azelphur> talktalk gives me amazing estimated download speeds
[23:09] <AlanBell> popey: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/pics/pano1.jpg
[23:09] <AlanBell> fun with cameras :)
[23:10] <czajkowski> AlanBell: nice
[23:10] <popey> haha
[23:11] <AlanBell> so that was 20 exposures, averaged with imagemagic then move the camera left 200px then repeat that 10 times then stitch together in hugin
[23:12] <AlanBell> if I make the loops bigger I think I can do a *huge* image of really quite high quality
[23:13] <AlanBell> just by taking stacks of snapshots and moving the camera a little bit each time and sorting it out in software
[23:13] <AlanBell> zoom, enhance! just like CSI :)
[23:15] <popey> put 4 on top of your car, drive around and sell the pictures to google images :D
[23:15] <popey> s/images/streetview/
[23:15] <AlanBell> http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/cam/pad there is loads of noise in the original image but blending lots of them gets rid of it all
[23:15] <AlanBell> drive around *slowly*
[23:16] <Azelphur> what is the general opinion of talktalk these days? they seem to have an unlimited 76mbit plan that is substantially cheaper than most other providers
[23:22] <Myrtti> we're on TalkTalk Business for whatever reason, inlaws are moving over from Business to the Private plan with the Youview box deal
[23:23] <Myrtti> our location is in the middle of Hicksville where there's little more action than the odd rabbit here and there and swooshing of the windmills, but we get 12-14 out of 16 that we pay for
[23:24] <Azelphur> nice
[23:25] <Myrtti> we just seem to have poor luck with whatever networking gear we're using
[23:26] <Myrtti> I've said this before but it's worth repeating so nobody does the same mistakes - Don't Buy Belkin
[23:26] <Azelphur> haha
[23:27] <Myrtti> next time might consider just buying a ADSL router and hooking up a Fon 2.0n box on it, I'm sure it can't get worse than what the Belkin does.
[23:28] <czajkowski> popey: I've outdone myself this time, packed for mondays flight today
[23:28] <czajkowski> I think I may have a bit of ocd :s
[23:28] <Myrtti> I hate Belkin gear with the power of thousand burning suns nowadays and I can't recommend their networking gear to anyone.
[23:28] <Myrtti> not even my worse enemies
[23:32] <shauno> czajkowski: I'm jealous.  I usually finish packing while I'm waiting for the taxi
[23:33] <czajkowski> shauno: I've the canonical UK xmas do tomorrow night, and a busy weekend ahead of me
[23:33] <shauno> if I'm packed too early, I just get paranoid that I've missed something, and keep repacking until the last minute anyway
[23:33] <czajkowski> so thought it best to be organised
[23:33] <Azelphur> https://twitter.com/Azelphur/status/279005683100286976 hehe
[23:35] <AlanBell> I think my megapanorama is working :)
[23:50] <Myrtti> also: Wohey, Ingress! and also: Wohey, Google Play Magazines
[23:53] <Myrtti> oh dear god
[23:53] <Myrtti> I looked for Linux magazines and guess who's ugly mug stares at me now in the damned Google Play Magazines store screenshots
[23:55] <popey> jono?
[23:55] <Myrtti> yup
[23:55] <popey> heh
[23:55] <Myrtti> dingdingding
[23:56] <Myrtti> you've won a prize!
[23:56] <popey> \o/
[23:56] <popey> did I win a jono?
[23:56] <mgdm> Yes. A bit like those meerkats.
[23:56] <Myrtti> shush
[23:56] <Myrtti> we've got meerkat mugs now
[23:56] <popey> i still have a meerkat which grows in water
[23:57] <popey> i bought when on holiday at the point maverick was around
[23:57] <popey> I also have a narwhal
[23:57] <popey> two in fact
[23:58] <AlanBell> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc
[23:58] <Myrtti> can't order Linux Format because jono
[23:59] <Myrtti> it's tainted now.
[23:59] <mgdm> did he not used to write for it, back in ze day?