| thafreak | Anyone looking for a cheap desktop... | 14:51 |
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| thafreak | These amd e-450 motherboard/cpu combos are pretty good | 14:51 |
| thafreak | doubt it will do THAT great gaming...but my kinda stuff...works REALLY well | 14:51 |
| thafreak | just no fullscreen full hd youtube | 14:52 |
| thafreak | but even though it's only a dualcore 1.6ghz, it has virtualization support | 14:52 |
| thafreak | I'm browsing the web, while installing windows xp in a kvm vm...and it's still responsive. | 14:53 |
| thafreak | actually bought this setup to run freenas, but while I'm waiting on more parts, I thought I'd test it out for running vm's | 14:55 |
| drkokandy | sounds like a good value | 15:52 |
| thafreak | specially at about $80 | 15:52 |
| thafreak | with 8gb of ram it's just a hair over $100 | 15:52 |
| drkokandy | I spent a bit more than that on my FreeNAS setup... but the great thing about FreeNAS is it'll probably run just great on that hardware | 15:55 |
| drkokandy | no reason to spend more | 15:55 |
| thafreak | i just got 4 of the wd red drives too... | 15:55 |
| drkokandy | nice | 15:55 |
| thafreak | haven't tested them for bad sectors yet though | 15:55 |
| thafreak | probably should have ordered 5, cause my luck there will be some DOA ones | 15:56 |
| drkokandy | hope not ... but a good idea to check | 15:57 |
| thafreak | so what all do you use your freenas box for? | 15:59 |
| thafreak | and any data corruption or other bad problems? | 15:59 |
| drkokandy | backup more than anything - I hold images of drives and redundant copies of things there | 16:00 |
| drkokandy | I really had just gotten sick of juggling little external drives | 16:01 |
| thafreak | gotcha... | 16:01 |
| thafreak | last year I built a new vm server...and was going to build a freenas box to store all the vms on | 16:02 |
| drkokandy | I have one drive in my setup that has been a little flaky, but nothing so far that a scrub hasn't fixed | 16:02 |
| drkokandy | but I did get a spare HD in case | 16:02 |
| thafreak | that's good to know...heard one horror story...but he was using old junk hardware | 16:02 |
| drkokandy | that would be cool. let us know how that goes. I never thought of trying to host VM files elsewhere | 16:03 |
| thafreak | i do it at work with our san... | 16:05 |
| thafreak | i ended up last year just combining the two machines, so I had a vm server with a bunch of disks | 16:05 |
| thafreak | talk about single point of failure... | 16:06 |
| drkokandy | yeah - it's been good to me, but mileage could vary. if they are critical vms, back them up - ZFS isn't a substitute for a backup - but it would be easy to set up an rsync periodically | 16:06 |
| drkokandy | holy cow, yeah | 16:06 |
| thafreak | right...nothing "critical" really | 16:06 |
| thafreak | the most critical vm is actually my storage vm...the one that shares out the data :) | 16:07 |
| thafreak | actually I have two, one for internal stuff and one that's externally accessible in my dmz | 16:07 |
| thafreak | but I can move most of that straight to the freenas box... | 16:08 |
| thafreak | I think I'm actually replacing my vm server too...it's too much of a power hog | 16:08 |
| drkokandy | yeah, that should be pretty easy | 16:08 |
| thafreak | 6 core phenom II | 16:08 |
| drkokandy | ah yeah | 16:08 |
| thafreak | and i don't think I really need that many cores...probably replace it with a couple amd e-350 type boards | 16:09 |
| thafreak | take that phenom and use it for something like gaming :) | 16:09 |
| drkokandy | yeah, that'll be a good use for that | 16:10 |
| thafreak | also, as hard as I tried, I couldn't get this e-450 machine to use more than 49w (measured with a kill-a-watt meter) | 16:10 |
| drkokandy | wow - that's great | 16:10 |
| thafreak | i think my phenom idles around 100 :) | 16:11 |
| thafreak | even with a couple kvm vm's running, it only peaked up in the 40's when heavy io happened | 16:11 |
| thafreak | mostly it idled around 36w | 16:12 |
| drkokandy | great value | 16:12 |
| thafreak | seriously...for folks who want to play with linux, <$200 and you have a vm server that uses very little power | 16:12 |
| drkokandy | very cool - maybe I'll recommend that to my brother | 16:15 |
| thafreak | and i think you can get most of it locally at microcenter too | 16:15 |
| thafreak | they have atleast one model of mini-itx board with an amd-e350 soldered on | 16:16 |
| thafreak | only thing they don't have is a good selection of power supplies...you can get a 80+ bronze at best for a good price there | 16:16 |
| thafreak | i ended up ordering an 80+ gold from newegg for about what a bronze normally costs... | 16:17 |
| drkokandy | microcenter is a bit of a drive so I do mostly Newegg - snagged a lot of good deals like that | 16:18 |
| thafreak | I'm lucky, it's only about an hour to the cleveland one... | 16:20 |
| thafreak | I still order things on newegg though, cause I don't like driving in cleveland | 16:20 |
| thafreak | but if I REALLY want something now...I know I can drive up there | 16:20 |
| drkokandy | Cheri703 - check this out! your dream is in the works l already... except as a phone, not a reader - http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/12/the-android-ecosystem-is-two-faced-yotaphone-has-lcd-on-one-side-electronic-paper-display-on-the-other/ | 17:16 |
| Cheri703 | oooooo | 17:33 |
| Cheri703 | now if it only comes to a non-gsm carrier! | 17:33 |
| Cheri703 | I have sprint at the moment | 17:33 |
| Cheri703 | well, a sprint mvno | 17:33 |
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| Cheri703 | I think I'm going back to 12.04 | 21:25 |
| Cheri703 | (from 12.10) | 21:25 |
| thafreak | how come Cheri703 | 21:38 |
| Cheri703 | a few things that I (apparently) relied on heavily aren't available/working in 12.10. I didn't realize how much I'd miss them til lately I noticed it is taking me more time/effort to do things because certain notifications don't show up or such. also most of the "hey, maybe that'll be fixed/better/different in 12.10" things haven't lived up to the hope | 21:41 |
| thafreak | ah...that's how I am with most relases it seems :) | 21:45 |
| Cheri703 | if 12.10 was the LTS, I'd probably stick it out, but...eh | 21:45 |
| Cheri703 | I try out the new ones, then sometimes revert, sometimes stay | 21:45 |
| Cheri703 | What I'm going to do with this one is once I've gotten it set up, make a virtual image from it, then move it over to my work laptop. Then if I set up DejaDup on the desktop, I can restore to the laptop, and after my work trip coming up, I can just backup the laptop and restore to the desktop (at least that's the goal) | 21:50 |
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