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davidoknerHi, I'm having trouble with my boot setup. I created a boot-repair report here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1426446/00:02
davidoknerI installed rEFit and was running Mac OS X and Ubuntu fine, but deleted the Ubuntu partition and tried to reinstall another version and Ubuntu gave me some error about GRUB and now I can't install Ubuntu anymore.00:04
davidoknerAnyone familiar with fixing GRUB / rEFit and Mac OS X & Ubuntu Dual Boot?00:04
davidoknerAlso, does anyone know if I should select post-release to activate after installing the AMD driver or the regular one? A window pops up and asks.00:05
davidoknerI should install the AMD driver right? What comes with Ubuntu does not have the AMD driver included right?00:06
davidoknerI don't really understand enough about rEFIt and GRUB to know what is going on.00:07
davidoknerI know that rEFIt is a boot manager and GRUB is a boot loader.00:08
davidoknerI think I'd like to remove the boot loader GRUB.00:08
Nik05why?00:08
davidoknerNik05: It is not working right and I can't install Ubuntu.00:08
Nik05huh what?00:08
davidoknerNik05: Maybe you can help me.00:09
Nik05whats not working and why cant you install ubuntu?00:09
davidoknerNik05: I installed Ubuntu 12.10 dual booting with OS X using the rEFIt utility and it was working fine.00:09
davidoknerNik05: But I then wanted to increase the Ubuntu space so I went back to OSX and resized the partition smaller and went back to Ubuntu and deleted the linux partitions.00:10
Nik05linux partition?00:11
davidoknerNik05: After that I went to install Ubuntu 12.04 (because it supports the graphics driver I wanted) but at the end of installation it wouldn't install because of a GRUB error.00:11
davidoknerNik05: All of the Linux related partitions. There were 3.00:11
Studentas1003:)\00:11
davidoknerOne main partition, one swap, and the third I don't know.00:12
Nik05the partition with ubuntu on it and swap00:12
Nik05ok00:12
davidoknerFor some reason there were three00:12
escottdavidokner, remove your illegal hackintosh installation and let grub manage the boot00:12
davidoknerescott: I don't want to remove OS X, I want to dual boot, and I have a real Macintosh.00:13
Nik05so install ubuntu and let grub write MBR00:13
escottdavidokner, then use bootcamp instead of refit00:13
davidoknerescott: There is a reason to use rEFIt. I can't remember now.00:13
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Nik05what is refit?00:14
davidoknerA boot manager.00:14
Nik05cant you just use grub?00:14
cosmicfireshow can I make nautilus my default file mgr?00:14
davidoknerEven if I remove rEFIt, I'm not sure it will fix GRUB.00:14
davidoknerLet me look up why I'm supposed to use rEFIt.00:14
Nik05update-grub :P00:15
ChucKy!help00:15
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:15
davidoknerI'm not sure where GRUB actually is on the drive, but I think I want to remove it.00:15
davidoknerSo, that Ubuntu can replace it when it re-installs.00:15
Studentas1003lasdafdsfdg00:16
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davidoknerI want to replace the GRUB partition table with a fresh one.00:16
escottdavidokner, grub doesn't have a partition table00:17
JPMHhurst435900:17
escottdavidokner, where grub is on the drive depends on which grub it is and what partition table the disk has00:17
davidoknerescott: I got this utility boot-repair00:17
redixothey everyone can someone help me with wireshark?00:18
redixothow can i assign an alias to ip address?00:18
almoxariferedixot: is the ip within your local net?00:19
samdredixot: there are multiples ways to do that, if you just want to do it for your computer, you can add a new entry in the file /etc/hosts, just add a line with the format "IP ALIAS"00:19
redixotalmoxarife: no00:21
redixotsamd: okthx00:21
alusionhttp://imgur.com/VElP1 how come I have no screensavers?00:23
almoxarifealusion: you have not installed any other than the shown one00:24
alusionthere's no option to install more though00:25
escottalusion, b/c screensavers are not shipped with the os anymore. you could try and install xscreensaver, but im not sure how to activate it00:26
alusionI have xscreensaver, however I too have problems with configuring or making it work00:27
alusiono, you launch xscreensaver demo00:28
blackshirt!info vnc4server00:28
ubottuvnc4server (source: vnc4): Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg4.3.0-37ubuntu4 (quantal), package size 2038 kB, installed size 5268 kB00:28
alusionlol flying toasters that is old as hell00:29
davidoknerCan anyone tell me if rEFIt will protect my system better?00:35
Nik05protect?00:35
Nik05david use grub00:35
davidoknerNik05: Ruining my boot loaders etc.00:35
Nik05its bootstraps ubuntu00:36
davidoknerubuntu.com told me to use rEFIt.00:36
horseatingweedsI just used kubuntu's partition editor to simply shrink a Windows partition and create a new one for Kubuntu. Each time I set it up the first step included moving the windows partition 'right' by a few MB. After the repartitioning finished, windows wouldn't boot and it was unable to repair itself. Any ideas what happened?00:36
davidoknerI don't have to install GRUB myself though right, Ubunti will just do that and detect I have OSX installed?00:36
davidoknerThis is where I learned about rEFIt. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation00:37
hiloCan anyone point me in the right direction for a network caching solution? I am looking for something that is sort of like bcache, but for NFS or other file based data (as opposed to block devices like bcache is designed for).00:37
Nik05horseatingweeds why moving the windoes partition?00:37
Nik05that shouldnt happen00:37
davidoknerOk, I'm going to uninstall rEFIt and try to install Ubuntu without it and see if I still get the GRUB error.00:38
davidoknerI think that the boot partition is messed up though and uninstalling rEFIt won't fix that because it didn't cause it. I think I caused it by deleting partitions or something.00:38
davidoknerok brb00:39
hilodavidokner, what exactly are you trying to do00:39
davidoknerhilo: I'm trying to fix my computer so I can install Ubuntu again.00:39
davidoknerhilo: I tried to install Ubuntu on my free space and it got to the end and gave a GRUB error.00:39
davidoknerhilo: I am dual booting OS X and Ubuntu and followed the directions at Ubuntu.com with rEFIt and it worked.00:40
hilodavidokner, Can you boot the system into either OS right now?00:41
davidoknerhilo: But I realized the version I installed 12.10 didn't support my AMD drivers and I didn't have enough partition space so I deleted the linux partitions and tried to install Ubuntu again, that is when at the end of the installation I got a GRUB error.00:41
davidoknerhilo: Yes, I can still boot into OS X, but I deleted Ubuntu in order to re-install it and the re-install failed, so I can't boot into that any more.00:41
horseatingweedsNikOS: It wasn't my intention to move it. I just shrank it and created an additional one. Oddly, the first step included moving it, which took 2 hours.00:42
davidoknerhilo: Somehow when I deleted the partitions and resized the mac partition I screwed up the boot partition map so I can't install Ubuntu again.00:42
Treadstone__71Is there a system log viewer in Fedora ?00:42
davidoknerhilo: Right now I just have one partition on my drive for OS X and the rest is free space, but Ubuntu won't install on there.00:42
davidoknerhilo: (like it did the first time)00:43
davidoknerhilo: I still have rEFIt on there.00:43
davidoknerhilo: I also ran a utility called boot-repair to create a report on my boot partitions.00:43
Nik05Treadstone NSA would know00:44
davidoknerhilo: Do you know what is going on with my computer?00:44
Nik05but this is ubuntu.... and /var/log has logs00:44
hilodavidokner, So when you start up your system, you come to rEFIt menu and choose OSX?00:44
davidoknerhilo: yes, and that works.00:45
davidoknerhilo: If I wanted to get the GRUB error again I'd have to repeat the install, because I didn't write it down.00:45
Nik05horseatingweeds well moving the partition... not sure what that did00:45
davidoknerhilo: It is acting like GRUB is still there and telling it something that is no longer accurate.00:46
Nik05have you tried windows dvd to fiz it?00:46
davidoknerhilo: I don't know if or how I could erase GRUB00:46
Nik05fix*00:46
davidoknerhilo: I think rEFIt points to either the OS X boot loader or the GRUB boot loader, maybe there are two tables.00:46
hilodavidokner, I don't know a whole lot about rEFIt, or how GRUB with OSX, but I have had success fixing corrupt GRUB and that sort of thing.00:46
davidoknerhilo: Well, that is probably all that is wrong.00:47
cosmicfireshow can I make nautilus my default file mgr?00:47
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davidoknerhilo: I just don't know how to fix GRUB.00:47
davidoknerhilo: Do you ever use the GUI program "boot-repair"?00:47
davidoknerhilo: there is a button "Reccomended repair (repairs most frequent problems)" but I have not pressed it yet.00:48
almoxarifedavidokner: press it00:48
davidoknerhilo: I'm in Ubuntu Live.00:48
hilodavidokner, no. I use a bootable ubuntu install cd to start a live environment. You can then take over a broken linux install and fix the grub that way00:48
davidoknerhilo: I deleted the Ubuntu partitions. I'm in Live CD now.00:49
davidoknerI have to close all programs.00:50
hilodavidokner, what does your drive look like in gparted00:50
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BubbaGumphi00:54
BassoopiokaHi i have a toshiba laptop (satellite l355d-s7901) and i installed ubuntu on it succesfully but the problem is i cant connect to the internet with wlan it finds my zyxel modem and says it is connected but no internet what to do ? ^^ words of caution noob in control here00:55
BubbaGumptry iwconfig00:55
BubbaGumpthen ifconfig wlan0 up00:55
psusior check the nework settings via the gui...00:55
BubbaGumpor whatever your interface is00:56
phunyguy_t430sBubbaGump, probably best to start simple (in linux noob terms, not linux expert terms).00:56
BubbaGumpoops sorry00:56
scarrzhello all, after about 10 years of ubuntu I am gonna try a text mode install of ubuntu server... suggestions for IRC, Internet browsing and other cool must haves?00:57
phunyguy_t430sscarrz, just doing it for giggles?00:57
scarrzno i'm serious about it00:57
kvothetechscarrz: text mode install doesn't mean you won't have a gui....but uh links, weechat, mc, vim00:58
phunyguy_t430sscrazz, also borderline !poll00:58
scarrzk lemmee write this down....00:58
kvothetechscarrz: tmux/screen......00:58
phunyguy_t430s!poll00:58
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.00:58
scarrzkk my bad00:58
phunyguy_t430sscarzz***00:58
scarrzlemmee rephrase00:58
Bassoopiokai went to iwconfig but it says when i type "ifconfig wlan0 up" acces denied00:59
phunyguy_t430sBassoopioka, add sudo before it00:59
phunyguy_t430sbut forget that for now00:59
scarrzwhat is a easy to use text mode http browser?01:00
phunyguy_t430sright click the network icon up on the top right and hit "connection info"01:00
phunyguy_t430sscarrz, link201:00
scarrzty01:00
phunyguy_t430slinks2*01:00
scarrzwhat do I need to install to have mouse support in text mode?01:01
Bassoopiokain the "connection info" what info do you need ?01:01
phunyguy_t430sBassoopioka, iwconfig probably wont get you anywhere because of NetworkManager01:01
phunyguy_t430sBassoopioka, what does it say for IP address?01:01
phunyguy_t430serrr01:02
phunyguy_t430syeah01:02
Bassoopioka192.168.1.201:02
phunyguy_t430sok. that is good.  Primary DNS?01:02
kvothetechphunyguy_t430s: depends what 192.168.1.2 has for dns...01:02
Bassoopiokaip adresses seems correct to me (have some experience with those) 192.168.1.101:02
phunyguy_t430skvothetech, it depends on what the ISP assigns for DNS as well as the DHCP server on the modem/01:03
phunyguy_t430sBassoopioka, what does it say for primary DNS?01:03
kvothetechphunyguy_t430s: yeah...unless his modem has 8.8.8.8 or 4.2.2.2 set though i'd probably change it..01:04
Bassoopiokaprimary dns is 192.168.1.101:04
phunyguy_t430sBassoopioka, Did you set up the modem?01:04
davidoknerAnyone know if there is a difference between no partition and "free space" partition?01:04
Tex_Nickscarrz : i just joined channel, so have missed your previous posts ... when you say "Text Mode" do you mean "Terminal Mode" ?01:04
Bassoopiokayes but it worked perfectly when i used windows half a week ago =D01:05
kvothetechTex_Nick: text mode is ncurses ...which runs in terminal doesn't it?01:05
escottdavidokner, you can have partitioned but not formatted. "free space" partition is a contradiction of terms01:05
kvothetechTex_Nick: or is that different in ubuntu01:05
davidoknerescott: In OSX I can create a "free space" partition.01:05
phunyguy_t430sBassoopioka, is it a cheap modem? for DSL?01:05
phunyguy_t430sor is it a USB modem on the laptop?01:05
phunyguy_t430s(I dont know the brands)01:06
davidoknerescott: I think I'll just leave no partition.01:06
davidoknerOk, I'm going back to Ubunti Live disc01:06
escottdavidokner, OSX can make up all manner of terms01:06
Bassoopiokamy modem is zyxel p660hn-t1a01:06
Tex_Nickkvothetech : yeah would seem the same ... i was wondering if scarrz was just wanting to copy/paste to the terminal ?01:07
phunyguy_t430sBassoopioka, I understand, is the modem a separate box?01:07
Bassoopiokayeah01:07
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phunyguy_t430sBassoopioka, I am thinking you have a bad DNS configuration on your DHCP server01:08
phunyguy_t430s(on the "modem")01:08
Tex_Nickusing the mouse01:08
Bassoopiokaok i will check the dns setup on my modem01:08
phunyguy_t430sBassoopioka, do you have access to the web interface?01:08
almoxarifeBassoopioka: is there another machine within the network that can get internet?01:09
phunyguy_t430sgood call almoxarife01:09
phunyguy_t430s:)01:09
almoxarifeBassoopioka: of if dualboot, does win get out?01:10
Bassoopiokano dual boot just only ubuntu01:11
almoxarifephunyguy_t430s: some people (me) have a router prior to the modem, i cant do much to the modem01:11
almoxarifeBassoopioka: is there another machine within the network that can get internet?01:11
Bassoopiokayes im using it as we speak =D01:11
almoxarifeBassoopioka: its not the network end, its system related then (particular machine)01:12
joey8hi, i have a pkg file that i need to install but i am not sure how to - can someone help me please01:18
escottjoey8, sudo dpkg -i package.dpkg01:19
joey8thanx escott01:19
Bassoopiokafixed the problem =D01:20
Bassoopiokait was the modem it has a button on it wlan on/off went to web interface and turned it on there button must be broken or something thx for the help anyways ^^01:22
bradleeselect textinput FROM irssi_logs WHERE MATCH(textinput) AGAINST('modem')01:22
bradleeUNION01:22
escottbradlee, what kind of SQL is that?01:25
tdignanHey, currently updating my system here. I found a bug in either Terminator or Unity. Can someone help me confirm it? Run terminator on your (updated) system, split the window, the click the menu icon in the top left of the terminator window and drag. Move your mouse near the edge of terminator. Result should be a crash.01:28
somsipescott: mySQL on a full text index by the look of it01:28
tdignanoh, terminator has to be fullscreened and...01:29
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tdignanthen you need to drag it to one of the edges of the screen01:29
Guest33311hi guys i need a help with audio of my desktop someone here speak portuguese?01:30
onborad(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: noXFree86DRIExtension01:30
Guest33311alguem pode me ajudar?01:30
onboradI use xorg 1.1301:30
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Guest33311i use ubuntu 12.04 and need help to config my sound01:31
Guest33311someone can help me?01:31
jcrwhat is the most up to date linux kernel I can use for 12.04 64bit01:31
dr_willis!sound01:31
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.01:31
Guest33311my problem is with my off board sound01:32
brie987Im running xubuntu 10,04 on an iBook G4 having wifi issues with B43 open/ucode5 fw01:32
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Guest33311i need config my home theater01:33
Guest33311well i go check this links first thanks for help =D01:34
dr_willisOff board mean?01:34
dr_willisMeans?01:34
xangua!info linux | jrc01:35
ubottujrc: linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0.14.14 (quantal), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB01:35
ScottJensenapt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer01:35
Guest33311yes off board sound01:36
Guest33311is a via01:36
devinsbahas anyone installed/build the delegate proxy on any recent versions ubuntu?01:36
brie987@scott, I did that and it would connect but i will lose both wifi and wired all together after a couple boot ups01:37
brie987it is so strange and I am at wits end.01:37
ScottJensenbrie987: :/ sorry thats all I got01:37
brie987Scott:  thats ok thank you for helping :)01:38
Guest33311this is the off board want i have01:38
Guest33311Encore Enm232 6 Via01:38
ScottJensenbrie987: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20Internet%20access ??01:38
Guest33311sorry for my english i stay learning hehe01:38
brie987Scott:  Im running on an iBook G4 PPC is Ubuntu 10,04 the highest for a PPC?  I know even this is not REALLY official01:39
ScottJensenbrie987: no idea01:40
ScottJensenbrie987: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac6401:40
OerHeksbrie987, 12.04 is the latest >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/01:41
brie987Scott: Thanks again.  Friend gave me this G4 PPC and I thought putting a really low intense Linux on it would make it fast and usable but it being a PPC makes it a bit harder01:41
ScottJensenhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads01:42
brie987OerHeks:  Does it run well on a PPC?  I have it running now without wifi and it is asking to update to 12.04, should I?01:42
ScottJensenlooks like you can run all versions01:42
jagginessbrie987, yaboot can be used for linux on PPC .. there's wikis for linux for ppc (and there's non-ubuntu linuxes like debian, if ubuntu doesnt work well on ppc)01:42
OerHekssome wifi problems with apple are hardwareissues01:43
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ScottJensenI could only get wifi to work in 1101:43
jagginessbrie987, yaboot == same concept as "grub" --  boot loaders01:43
jagginessbrie987, (for ppc)01:43
brie987Scott:  Been there, I get it to load and run but after a couple boots I loose all Network connections wired and wireless01:43
brie987OerHeks: im comming to that conclusion.  I actually have a wifi dongle on it now and it is working but I just reinstalled so in the next couple hours i will see if it actually keeps my network connections or die like the other installs.01:44
ScottJensen"you're holding it wrong" hehe01:45
samholmesdifference between init.d and init?01:45
brie987Hahahaha01:45
mensvagasamholmes: long story short, /etc/init.d is a directory with services that get stopped and stopped at different run levels01:46
ignarpsresolvconf -u doesn't seem to be updating my resolv.conf information from the settings in /etc/network/interface01:46
ignarpsDoes anyone know how to get resolvconf to reread the entries and generate a new resolv.conf file ?01:47
mensvagaand init is the "first process" on a *nix system.  You should google the rest.01:47
jagginesssamholmes, init is upstart (see the wiki on upstart).. currently the bootup process is still evolving, so it is hybrid and includes sys-v script methods (init.d)01:47
tryingUbuntuusing log file viewer in Ubuntu 12.10 how would I delete the logs??  theres tons of theem01:47
jagginesssamholmes, init is the successor for ubuntu01:48
samholmesjagginess: init.d is the old way?01:48
jagginesssamholmes, well init.d is the traditional method.. not all distros are going "upstart"01:48
jagginess!upstart01:49
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/01:49
brie987So the best ubuntu distro for an iBook G4 PPC is??????????01:49
jagginessbrie987, none01:50
brie987jagginess: Hahahahha, well the better of the evils than.01:50
jagginessbrie987, ^ wrote ya, if ubuntu is problematic, there's also debian for ppc01:51
ScottJensenId try the latest, and keep going down from there.01:51
ScottJensensad answer01:51
* jagginess would google debian wiki ppc01:52
alusion I have two text files of almost the same thing. How do I combine them without duplicates?01:53
brie987Scott: no its not I like trying even when most are errors, I get to learn the quirks of many, learn learn 'throw something' learn some more  :)01:53
phunyguy_t430sjagginess, brie987, if noobness is an issue... debian may not be the answer.01:53
phunyguy_t430sbrie987, proceed at your own risk.  :)01:53
brie987jagginess:  noobness is about half, I have been trying mintppc and that is a debian that is all over the place,  thanks.  I tried and your right it may not be the answer01:55
ScottJensenalusion: sdiff01:55
phunyguy_t430salso brie987, there are special builds for PPA, but as for stability, I don't think it can be supported here.01:55
phunyguy_t430sPPC***01:55
phunyguy_t430sone final note:01:56
brie987phunyguy: its a handme down so im ready for the worst 'knockknock' or/and the best, gotstoo try01:56
phunyguy_t430s!poll | brie98701:56
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phunyguy_t430s:)01:56
brie987Ubottu:  Thanks that is a new one and i will!01:57
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phunyguy_t430salusion, not really sure what you are asking.01:58
ScottJensenalusion: sdiff01:58
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ignarpsI have verified the /etc/resolv.conf is the proper symlink to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf and I have checked that updates-enabled is set01:58
phunyguy_t430sScottJensen, missed that in the mix.  thanks.01:59
ignarpsI have tried to restart resolvconf via /etc/init.d/resolvconf restart;  tried the resolvconf -u that the manual shows01:59
ignarpsbut my /etc/resolv.conf file won't update the dns list from /etc/network/interfaces01:59
ignarpsHas anyone seen this work ?01:59
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ScottJensennope02:06
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ignarpstrying to avoid a reboot to fix this02:06
tripelbdo they make Ubuntu for a G4 Mac?  384 ram02:07
xwalktripelb: You might want to look into Lubuntu for something that low spec.02:08
xanguaignarps: so you just want to change your dns¿02:08
kvothetechtripelb: if you can find a powerpc architechture version02:08
tripelbOK02:09
ignarpsxangua, yes I am trying to use resolvconf like 12.04 wants us to.  but reading the man page.  resolvconf -u should reread the info from /etc/network/interfaces.  but it isn't02:09
_d4vidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qwHYpLjaKI join guys02:09
ignarpsxerxas, this is on a server so no network-manager02:09
xanguahttp://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ just use gksu gedit instead of sudo02:10
ignarpsxangua: thanks for trying but I don't use dhcp on this.  It is a server not a desktop02:13
pythonirc1011unity is turning out to be slow on my VM. Any suggestions what I can move to? gnome perhaps?02:14
psusia G4 is like a 10 year old computer... way past time to upgrade02:15
gustav__Window Maker.02:15
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pythonirc1011gustav__: was that for me?02:16
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gustav__Yep.02:17
schnoodles--eAnyone know why FileZilla might work on a particular FTP site but 'connect to server' does not ?02:17
jcrwhat is the most recent linux kernel that is useable for 12.04 64bit02:18
pythonirc1011gustav__: I'd prefer installing something from ubuntu repos. not adding a repo02:18
gustav__pythonirc1011: Blackbox?02:18
pythonirc1011jcr: I'm using 35002:18
krywkHey guys.02:19
krywkI'm having a bit of a problem here.02:19
krywkI'm trying to play PoxNora on Ubuntu 12.04.02:19
krywkIt's based on Java.02:19
krywkAccording to the official site, it can be played on Linux.02:19
jcrpythonirc1011:  did you use the deb releases or compile from the main branch02:19
krywkWhen I press the 'Launch Game' button, it downloads a .JNLP file instead of launching the game.02:20
krywkI tried opening the JNLP file with IcedTea Web Start02:20
pythonirc1011jcr: I didn't do anything02:20
krywkand I get a window that says 'Downloading'...02:20
krywkMy question is02:20
krywkWhy doesn't it launch right off?02:20
kvothetechkwthen you don't have java or it's not setup in your browser02:20
pythonirc1011gustav__: how do I tell startx to use blackbox?02:20
abellist channel02:21
kvothetechpythonirc1011: edit .xinitrc02:21
krywkI'm using Google Chrome.02:21
krywkJava IS installed02:21
krywkand it IS configured to work with Chrome02:21
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gustav__pythonirc1011: What he said. ~/.xinitrc02:21
krywkSo uh02:23
krywkAny help?02:23
krywk:/02:23
elena-IKif a program outputs to both stdout and stderr, is there a way to have both displayed normally and additionally stderr written to a file? (basically what tee does, but only stderr written to a file)02:27
dr_willisThers that &1 and &2 syntax. To. Bash.  But #bash may be berrer to ask in02:28
Toph3i did a default install of ubuntu the other day and it installs into one partition. Why doesn't it at least place mount on / and /home?02:32
Jordan_Uelena-IK: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/04702:32
davidoknerHi02:33
jribToph3: you choose that during install02:33
davidoknerhilo: the boot repair fixed it.02:33
dr_willismy /home/ is on its own hard drive. :-P02:34
Toph3jrgifford,,, yes, i generally do, this time I neglected to do so02:34
davidoknerDo I install AMD driver or AMD driver (post-release updates) ?02:34
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davidoknerI mean "activate"02:35
davidoknerWhich AMD driver do I activate "poste-release updates" or regular?02:35
dr_willisuse the normal one first i suggest02:35
davidoknerI can easily change it later?02:35
elena-IKJordan_U: thanks02:35
dr_willispost release is not as tested02:35
davidoknerI can't tell the difference. ok02:36
Toph3dr_willis,,, if I mount / on my ssd and /home on a HD, will I lose much speed from mounting both on my SSD?02:36
davidoknerUbuntu 10.4 automatically prompted me to download and install AMD driver, but 12.10 didn't.02:36
davidokner12.402:36
davidoknerI think ubuntu.com shouldn't be pointing people to 12.10 until the graphics drivers for AMD are out.02:37
dr_willisToph3: depends on what you do with the sys>em02:37
Jordan_Uelena-IK: Following http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3618078/pipe-only-stderr-through-a-filter, you can also do this: command 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3 3>&- | tee /path/to/sdterr.txt02:37
escottToph3, things like firefox like to hit a lot of little files in $HOME. so they would be somewhat slower to start up, but the boot would be fast02:37
Jordan_Uelena-IK: You're welcome.02:37
davidoknerI installed Ubuntu 12.10 and found out that AMD drivers weren't supported.02:37
davidoknerThat is not trivial.02:37
escottJordan_U, what is 3?02:37
pv2bunfortunately, ubuntu releases on a 6-month cycle.02:38
dr_willisand drivers work for a lot of people in 12.1002:38
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Jordan_Uescott: File descriptor number 3.02:38
davidoknerIf AMD or Nvidia aren't supported I think that version isn't ready to point a regular user to.02:38
escottJordan_U, well yes, but i've never heard of that as a standardized FD02:38
psusidavidokner, they are supported, but AMD dropped support in their proprietary driver for some older chips02:38
dr_willisamd and nvidia both work for me.02:39
psusiescott, that's because it isn't a standard fd02:39
davidoknerpsusi: If you install AMD driver with Ubuntu 12.10 you get no Unity interface, just blank desktop.02:39
dr_willisamd us allways eager to drop support for older cards02:39
Jordan_Uescott: It's not standardized as anything other than a file descriptor, only 1 and 2 are special. You could also do 6>&1 .02:39
davidoknerThis is not the older chips I'm talking about.02:39
psusidavidokner, apparently AMD's driver does't work for you02:39
dr_willisdavidokner:  it depends on your exact card02:40
davidoknerpsusi: It is well reported.02:40
davidoknerdr_willis: Oh, maybe it works for some.02:40
psusidavidokner, so? don't use amd's driver then02:40
dr_willisit works for many.....02:40
davidoknerdr_willis: If you don't install the drivers you won't get the performance.02:40
psusithe open source drivers have been working just fine for me for a few years now02:41
davidoknerI wasn't sure, I thought you had to install the AMD driver to get good performing graphics.02:41
psusinope02:41
davidoknerWhat about in games?02:41
psusitheir driver is often better, but the open source one is generally just fine02:41
davidoknerah, ok02:41
davidoknerIn Ubuntu 12.04 there is no restart in the power menu.02:42
psusiand still supports much of the older hardware amd's driver has dropped02:42
dr_willisyou will never get perfect support02:42
davidoknerI think things are going to get better with graphics support in Ubuntu thanks to Valve Software.02:42
davidoknerThe Valve console will be using Linux.02:42
psusiwhat does valve have to do with it?02:43
davidoknerValve is releasing a console with steam and linux.02:43
psusithey make games, not video drivers02:43
davidoknerAnd getting AMD and Nvidia to improve drivers.02:43
pv2bvalve is actively working with GPU manufacturers to make better graphics drivers for linux. intel notably.02:43
dr_willisill belive it when i se02:43
pv2blet me see if i can find a reference on that.02:43
pv2bthere we go. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE0MzQ02:43
davidoknerAlso, think about it. Once there is a console that uses linux, they are going to want to make better support even if Valve wasn't helping them.02:43
davidoknerThere is a very good chance that Linux will be the primary game OS.02:44
psusinot really... it's up to the console maker to make their console work with the one video card they put in it...02:44
phunyguy_t430smight be !ot02:45
phunyguy_t430sjust saying02:45
psusithat doesn't give the video makers any reason to do general Linux support02:45
davidoknerYou can sell more video cards if you support linux if it is used in a big game platform.02:45
phunyguy_t430s!ot02:45
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:45
psusino, you just have to support the one that is used in the big game platform02:45
phunyguy_t430schannel police.02:46
dr_willisthat logic hasent work02:46
psusiwith just the firmware that ships with it02:46
cynixx3anyone know about proxy servers?02:46
phunyguy_t430s!anyone | cynixx302:46
ubottucynixx3: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.02:46
davidoknerDo you guys have any opinion on rEFInd?02:46
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davidoknerDo you guys have any opinion on rEFInd vs. rEFIt?02:47
phunyguy_t430s!poll | davidokner02:47
ubottudavidokner: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:47
cynixx3Ok, Im getting an 403 user not allowed, Im trying to use tinyproxy I dont knwo where to look02:47
davidoknerCan I uninstall rEFIt and not lose Ubuntu, or screw it up?02:48
davidoknerI want to see if I can replace rEFIt with rEFInd.02:48
cynixx3!details02:50
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."02:50
cynixx3!gq02:51
escottdavidokner, you really shouldn't need refit. the OSX boot menu should offer any bootcamp bios setups, and the efi menu should offer any efi options02:51
ubottuAre you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question.02:51
cynixx3!wallawalladingdongchime02:51
davidoknerescott: Ok, I'll have to try without. I installed rEFIt because ubuntu.com instruction on mac dual boot said to do that first.02:52
escottdavidokner, macs are weird and their efi implementation is broken so maybe if you are trying an efi boot you need it02:52
dr_willisi thought macs  were perfect....   ;-)02:53
joeHello02:54
dr_willishowdy02:54
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Guest42557I have an issue. I logged on to my laptop (running Ubuntu 12.04 w/ Gnome Classic) and my language was set to Chinese (or something similar).02:55
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cynixx3HAHA!02:55
_TristanHi. I'm trying to set up efi booting but the tutorial isn't helping me... can anybody help?02:55
CaliberIv'e set the language to EN on the log in screen and ive gone into /etc/default/locale and changed all the settings to the english setting. Nothing has worked.02:56
CaliberAny ideas?02:56
dr_willistry making a new user. see what language they get02:56
CaliberAlright, I shall try that. It's very odd because I haven't changed any setting (that I know of).02:57
CaliberBRB!02:57
escott_Tristan, maybe02:59
_TristanI need to make an efi partition, right? 100mb at the beginning of the drive?02:59
escott_Tristan, for pure EFI yes03:00
_TristanI'll need a live usb for that. After I create that partition, what should I do escott?03:00
sleepeehello people.  i've got a quick question.03:01
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escott_Tristan, install ubuntu. make sure grub-efi gets installed03:02
_Tristaninstall ubuntu?03:02
escott_Tristan, in fact the installer should handle everything03:02
_TristanI have to reinstall entirely?03:02
escott_Tristan, if you are already installed i guess install grub-efi03:02
_TristanI just installed it a few weeks ago, and it didn't set up efi stuff03:02
_Tristanit didn't make the efi partition, though03:02
phunyguy_t430shmmm... EFI.... I remember having issues with that as well.03:02
sleepeei've been an ubuntu user for some time, but recently i've been dabbling in red hat based distros and discovered the wonders of LVM.  now, i'm curious as to whether the ubuntu installer lets you set up LVM because i can't find it for the life of me.03:03
CaliberYay! I went to make the new account (as suggested) and I was that my account (and the new accounts default) was set to Chinese. Used Google translate to figure out what English (American) was in Chinese and bam, fixed.03:03
CaliberThanks!03:03
escott_Tristan, a lot of efi implementations these days will boot different media in different modes. so usb keys in bios mode, disks in efi or the reverse03:03
escott_Tristan, that could account for an installed system being not what you want03:03
_Tristanis there anything I can do?03:03
escottsleepee, alternate supports it03:04
_Tristanbesides rolling over and dying?03:04
escott_Tristan, in the efi setup you can switch options around03:04
_Tristanin the bios?03:04
escott_Tristan, technically its not "bios" but yes03:04
sleepeeyou mean the alternate install cd?03:04
escottsleepee, yes03:04
_Tristanescott: so the big blue interface that looks like a bios that I access by hitting f2 during boot?03:05
phunyguy_t430sUbuntu installer ASKED me if I wanted to set up LVM...03:05
sleepeeok.. cool!  thanks for the info!03:05
escott_Tristan, yes.03:05
phunyguy_t430showever it is a generic setup I assume.03:05
_Tristanescott: unfortunately, being a laptop "bios", it's somewhat limited in options. It only lets be set EFI to "auto" or "disabled"03:05
sleepeewait... which installer?03:05
escott_Tristan, im trying to break my own habit of calling it "bios" because... its not03:05
_Tristanis there something else I should call it?03:06
_TristanI mean, big blue interface sounds pretty good I guess.03:06
escott_Tristan, efi setup would probably be the correct term. but in any case, auto would presumably trigger when it saw an efi partition on a gpt disk03:06
_Tristangpt disk...03:06
gustav__When I'm trying to play a BluRay I lended off the local library, with VLC, I get this: "Error calculating media key. Missing right processing key" Any ideas on how to fix it?03:07
escott_Tristan, i guess format the efi partition as fat and then install grub-efi03:07
_Tristandoes that stand for gyroscopic partition tits?03:07
escott_Tristan, guid partition table03:07
_Tristanoh, that makes sense03:07
_Tristanshould I install grub-efi from my live usb?03:07
escott_Tristan, sure you could do that from a chroot03:08
OerHeksgustav__, there is no way to play protected blueray discs yet, AFAIk03:08
_Tristanchroot? What is this sorcery??03:08
gustav__OerHeks: This, http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/, usually works.03:08
mazda01trying to unmount a partition and I get umount: /media/1tb: device is busy.03:08
jagginess_Tristan, your disk is gpt?03:08
_Tristanshould it be?03:09
mazda01i've tried using sudo lsof but nothing appears to be accessing that device. can i just unplug it? its a usb external hard drive03:09
dr_willismazda01: close all apps acessing it03:09
escott_Tristan, what does sudo parted -l say on the fourth line?03:09
mazda01dr_willis: i just said, there's no apps accessing it, none in lsof anyway03:09
_Tristan"Partition Table: msdos"03:09
OerHeksgustav__, so why does that not work ?03:10
jagginess_Tristan, if your disk is not gpt, your hybridbios should not be set to 'strict' efi -- hence you don't use grub-efi but grub-pc03:10
dr_willismazda01: you can use the sync command to force a sync befor pulling plug03:10
escott_Tristan, so you aren't setup for efi boot03:10
_Tristan:(03:10
gustav__OerHeks: Well, I don't know, like I said, I get that message.03:10
_Tristanthat makes sad. Cry.03:10
mazda01dr_willis: hows that?03:10
dr_willismazda01: make sure no terms are  cd'd into it03:10
escott_Tristan, he system probably boots the install usb in bios mode which then installed the system as a bios system03:10
escott_Tristan, if you want to convert you can... but unless you have a reason to03:11
dr_willissync  clears out the writeing buffers to disk03:11
_TristanI guess I don't need to...03:11
_Tristanisn't efi faster?03:11
escott_Tristan, no03:11
_TristanI was just looking for something to do this evening...03:11
_Tristanguess I'll have to install systemd instead03:11
mazda01dr_willis:  it's a headless server and I only access it via ssh. i am basically removing that drive cause it has bad sectors, so I am replacing the hdd inside the enclosure03:11
escott_Tristan, if you want to convert go read rodsbooks.com03:11
mazda01dr_willis: in that case will it just be ok to unplug it?03:12
dr_willismazda01:  should be.03:12
SpeedArtBotSay something please?03:12
mazda01dr_willis: yeah, I am seeing a whole bunch of this in the kern.log end_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 107975787403:12
dr_willissafest would be reboot and pull it.03:13
OerHeksgustav__, i examined both 32 + 64 bit 'keys, the 64 bit one is old 21-Dec-201103:13
bazhangSpeedArtBot, hi03:13
dr_willisSpeedArtBot:  moo03:13
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gustav__OerHeks: What does that mean?03:13
OerHeksgustav__, maybe your BR disc is too new, dunno03:14
gustav__>_<03:14
SpeedArtBotThanks, i guess this is working then?03:14
gustav__The library should really stop funding this type of shit.03:14
bazhangSpeedArtBot, are you a bot03:14
OerHeksgustav__,  http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/files/linux64/ & http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name:8080/files/linux32/03:14
bazhanggustav__, no cursing here03:15
SpeedArtBotif you can hear me, but yeah, i'm a bot, but at the moment i'm testing out the interface part. I can't connect to freenode, exces flood, so i figured go here and listen in.03:15
gustav__bazhang: What do you mean?03:15
bazhangSpeedArtBot, please dont test your bot here. remove it, thanks03:15
bazhanggustav__, NO foul language. NO cursing here.03:16
gustav__bazhang: Yes?03:16
OerHeksgustav__, so those keys are highly illegal, complaints to the owner of that site.03:17
gustav__OerHeks: How do you know that?03:18
OerHeksgustav__, if it was legal, ubuntu will ship it, or make a wiki,  wouldn't they?03:19
gustav__OerHeks: Obviously.03:19
wood_quinnDoes anyone here know what directory Transmission uses as a "Trashbin?"03:20
davidoknerAnyone know how to fix Surround Sound? It is coming out of the wrong speakers.03:22
davidoknerIt normally does that when it outputs as DD instead of pcm.03:22
davidoknerMy front left signal comes out my rear left speaker.03:22
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Gaddelhi, i have an elantech touchpad that is not recognized at all by xubuntu. it just says "ps/2 generic mouse". i've tried a bunch of fixes to no avail. running the latest kernel03:27
userZjoin #debian03:27
Gaddelme?03:27
leftyfbcan someone please help me get my <super> key back from Unity? I NEED it for a terminal hotkey like I have it on other computers. I've tried so many different things, nothing is working.03:30
leftyfbAlso, rinfon is an onjoin spammer03:31
meaganicolehello03:31
meaganicolehello03:31
meaganicoleanyone there03:31
Gaddelno03:32
meaganicolelol and very funny03:32
meaganicolei want to ask a question03:32
gustav__A DVD seems to have lodged it self in the drive right now. I can't do eject /dev/xyz on it and two vlc processes has gone zombie. Should I just reboot?03:32
meaganicolewhere can i download a full version of ubuntu?03:32
escottgustav__, paperclip?03:32
meaganicolei have 10.10 version, the ubuntu keeps asking me to update and it can't update03:32
xanguameaganicole: from ubuntu.com03:32
leftyfbmeaganicole: ubuntu.com03:33
meaganicolei tried03:33
escott!eol | meaganicole03:33
ubottumeaganicole: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades03:33
meaganicolei tried doing a copy of a cd but won't work03:33
meaganicolei have 4 cds of ubuntu that been downloaded from the official site but no use03:33
meaganicolecan't seem to boot/install03:33
leftyfbmeaganicole: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Burning_the_ISO_on_to_a_DVD03:33
gustav__escott: You think that will work? There is a hole.03:33
escottmeaganicole, have you checked the md5sum? did you burn them correctly (as iso not data)03:33
meaganicoleyes03:34
davidoknerWhen I run software center it often says it has to repair itself.03:34
escottgustav__, i dont know what you mean by lodged, but that is the manual eject hole03:34
meaganicoleI also tried using ubuntu to burn the cd but still won't work03:34
ScottJensendo-release-upgrade -d03:34
davidoknermeaganicole: Which ISO did you download?03:35
gustav__escott: I think the OS is holding it.03:35
meaganicolestill won't work, i don't know if computer won't accept it or something else going off03:35
hilohello friends03:35
davidoknerhilo: I got it working.03:35
meaganicolethe ubuntu lte I think03:35
escottgustav__, ok. well manual should get around that... the OS won't like it, but if things are going zombie03:35
gustav__So, I'll just reboot then. Ok bye.03:35
hilodavidokner, Wonderful. Just curious if it isn't too much trouble for you to PM me the solution you used?03:35
escottmeaganicole, beyond "it doesn't work" you havent told us much03:36
bazhang!work | meaganicole03:37
meaganicolestill can't get the cd to work even though i downloaded03:37
ubottumeaganicole: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.03:37
ScottJensenmeaganicole: open terminal, sudo -i, then do-release-upgrade03:37
gustav__I have to remember to umount discs before popping them out. LOL03:38
meaganicolethe file not found or command not found03:38
ScottJenseneject cmd is your friend03:38
gustav__Yeah.03:38
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leftyfbcan someone please help me get my <super> key back from Unity? I NEED it for a terminal hotkey like I have it on other computers. I've tried so many different things, nothing is working.03:39
davidoknerWhy does 12.04 have no restart option?03:39
hilodavidokner, it does03:39
hilodavidokner, if you click shutdown it is on the dialog03:40
meaganicoleis it possible to make a copy of ubuntu for me?03:40
ScottJensenmeaganicole: http://www.ubun2.com/question/1135/how_upgrade_ubuntu_1110_command_line03:40
hilodavidokner, they moved it a bit is all03:40
davidoknerhilo: Oh, in the dialog to the left. I didn't see it.03:40
hilodavidokner, got me the first time too03:40
ScottJensenmeaganicole: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core03:40
davidoknerhilo: 12.10 moved it to its own option I think.03:40
SpacePoetfrom bash how do i get information about a package?03:41
bazhang!eolupgrades | meaganicole for 10.1003:41
escottSpacePoet, dpkg or apt03:41
SpacePoethow to with apt03:41
leftyfbSpacePoet: sudo apt-cache show <package>03:41
ubottumeaganicole for 10.10: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades03:42
SpacePoetthx03:42
cnzquestion03:42
cnzim running sudo services mythtv-backend start03:42
cnzit says it starts and gives a pid03:42
meaganicoleit said that i hve the newest version03:42
cnzyet it doesn't actually start the service03:42
cnzim running 12.0403:43
logitechcheck the log03:43
cnzany ideas03:43
logitech-> /var/log03:43
cnzwhich log03:43
logitechmythtv03:43
sargenntoHave posted this on the forums with no response. Maybe you all can help. Ever since I installed the package 'xubuntu-desktop' my volume slider graphic is now missing in unity... How can I fix this and also is it safe to just remove the 'xubuntu-desktop' package?03:43
hilodavidokner, To be honest, I rarely use intermediate releases. I stick with the LTS release unless something specific in the new version makes it worth my while. I don't like having to worry about the minute changes they make that have sweeping effects on my configurations. :) Most of my equipment is still running 10.04, and a few 12.04.03:43
cnzthere isnt one03:43
logitechopen terminal and see what logs u have03:43
logitechls /var/log03:44
davidoknerhilo: I wanted the AMD driver and it didn't work with 12.1003:44
SpacePoethow do i unmount a cd?03:44
cnzlogitech, /var/log/mythtv is empty03:44
SpacePoetunmount /media/cd?03:44
logitecheject /dev/cdrom03:44
ScottJenseneject /dev/sr003:44
SpacePoeti want to unmount not eject03:44
SpacePoetsorry03:44
meaganicolei have tried updating but says 1 file not found03:45
logitechdf -h03:45
logitechumount /dev/cd-rom03:45
hilodavidokner, that is a great reason ;) The systems I did move to 12.04 were motivated by a similar driver situation03:45
logitechreplace cd-rom with the device pointer03:45
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  <----- meaganicole03:45
bazhangmeaganicole, read that link03:45
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meaganicoleok but my computer is really slow at the moment, won't respond at times03:46
bazhangmeaganicole, thats the link you need. read it03:46
meaganicoleok I'm reading03:46
logitechfglrx vs xorg-ari driver03:46
jubeiguys i am trying to remove a package but it says the following packages have unmet dependencies and recomments that I do apt-get -f install to correct them03:46
jubeithe thing is that the problematic packages come from an additional ppa03:46
jubeiI've removed that ppa from etc/apt/sources.list , i've done apt-get update03:47
jubeibut still the problem persists03:47
C4zz1dyhave u done apt-get update?03:47
C4zz1dyo sry03:47
C4zz1dylol.03:47
C4zz1dyin that case your problem is out of my league already :\03:47
escott!info ppa-purge | jubei03:51
ubottujubei: ppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+bzr56 (quantal), package size 4 kB, installed size 56 kB03:51
jubeiescott: the problem is that If I try to install ppa-purge I still get the broken/unmet dependencies thingie :)03:52
rinfonguys, i want to change the desktop background picture,but when i reboot the computer,the picture restore default,why?03:52
WHAT_UPis it easy to switch ubuntu into effectively xubuntu?03:53
logitechi hate the Unity desktop03:54
bazhang!ot | logitech03:54
ubottulogitech: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:54
bazhangWHAT_UP, yes03:54
rinfonme too03:54
skp1unity is awesome.03:54
bazhangcomplaints to #ubuntu-offtopic03:54
kvothetechWHAT_UP: install xfce03:54
bazhangWHAT_UP, the package xubuntu-desktop then03:55
bazhang!purexfce| WHAT_UP03:55
ubottuWHAT_UP: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »03:55
skp1how do i remove the amazon advertisments in ubuntu 12.10?03:56
bazhang!adlens | skp103:56
ubottuskp1: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ03:56
WHAT_UPbazhang: say i need to upgrade from 11.04, and i want to have xfce at the end. should i do that before or after the upgrade?03:56
bazhangWHAT_UP, I'd migrate home to a new partition, then install 12.10 fresh (xubuntu)03:57
logitechby default my home is on it's own partition03:57
bazhanglogitech, why are you telling us this?03:57
dr_willisyou are allready ahead of the game then. ;)03:58
dr_willisclean install of xubuntu 12.10 and you are all set03:58
WHAT_UPbazhang: alright. sounds like a plan (esp. since i already have an xubuntu 12.10 dvd) thanks!03:59
C4zz1dyhow could you hate the Unity desktop...D:04:01
dr_willisunity works well for me.04:01
dr_willisi set my windows7 panels vertical even. ;)04:01
WHAT_UPthe big mistake in unity, imo, is putting everything on the left04:02
WHAT_UPby default04:02
WHAT_UP(let alone that it was effectively forced on people, which people don't like)04:02
dr_willisforcing changes on people.. how Microsoftish of them. ;)04:03
WHAT_UPthe scrollbar is already on the right side of the screen, so the mouse is on that side the majority of the time anyway. no reason to have to move it all the way to the left to interact with a sidebar whose icons change size on you04:03
dr_willisthey are being forward thinking for when the ubuntu tablets arive.... when ever that happens04:04
kingbeastis there an app I can use to stream my desktop other than vlc?04:04
dr_willisactually i rarely use the actual scrollbars.04:04
WHAT_UPin the same sense that it's forward thinking to get rid of 1920x1200 displays in favor of hd-compatible 1920x108004:05
dr_williskingbeast:  i belive there is. but i cant recall the names. other then 'webcamstudio' which may be outdated04:05
dr_williskingbeast:  askubuntu.com may have some suggestions04:07
kingbeastthanks dr_willis04:08
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logitechhow do i tell which video driver X11 is using?04:20
logitechi seen under settings VESA:SUMO04:20
escottlogitech, you can read the /var/log/Xorg.0.log but its rather verbose04:20
logitechis it not using fglrx?04:20
escottlogitech, i like to glxing | grep -i renderer or grep -i vendor04:20
davidoknerCan Ubuntu add an Oracle Java installer?04:21
logitechdont have glxing04:21
Ibidemglxinfo04:22
escottlogitech, glxinfo sorry04:22
ChrononIs anyone else having problems with SysRq on 12.10?  After upgrading SysRq combinations don't work.04:22
Ibidemand grep renderer is most informative04:22
trismChronon: many sysrq combinations are disabled by default in 12.1004:23
logitechOpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 6620G04:23
trismChronon: see /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf for details and instructions to enable them again04:23
ChrononThanks, trism!04:23
logitechso i guess it is using the fglrx driver04:24
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rushboyhello this is a newbie question : if i want to view the source code of any application i just unpacked using 'sudo apt-get install'  , is it possible to view the source code through github only or is there another way ?04:27
Ibidemtrying to get audio recording working with my laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad X100e; standard webcam, which is working except for sound, and HD ATI SB/Conexant pebble soundcard)04:28
Ibidemrushboy: not very clear what you mean, but the source you just downloaded is in a local folder04:29
Ibidemoh sorry, misread what you wrote04:29
escottrushboy, enable deb-src and install those pacakges04:30
Ibidemuse "apt-get source <package>"04:30
cnzhow do you format a disk with ext4 from command line?04:30
cnzI used fdisk to partition the drive04:30
escottcnz, mkfs.ext404:31
cnzescott so mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda?04:31
escottcnz, no the partition number04:31
rushboyokay , thanks escott and Ibidem :)04:31
cnzright04:32
cnzmkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1 etc etc correct?04:32
Ibidemyes04:32
escottcnz, yes04:32
cnzthanks :)04:32
yuntsewuAnyone remember how to change the touchpad sensitivity with xinput?04:34
cnzescott is it normal for mkfs.ext4 to take up 28gigs of disk space?04:34
Hwkilleryes04:34
escottcnz, depends on how big the disk is04:35
dr_willis5% is reserved by default04:35
HorizonXPcan anyone suggest an IRC channel for discussion about installing Ubuntu on a Chromebook?04:35
dr_willisthats changeable via the tune2fsa command04:35
dr_willisthats changeable via the tune2fs command04:35
cnzdr_willis can I change it to 5%04:36
cnzI mean to 0%04:36
dfcnvtDid anybody tried 'stress' command?04:36
SumeshI need to run a couple of xmodmap commands at startup to remap a key, what's the right way to do it?04:36
dfcnvtI've tried it out but doesn't seems to create a final log or documentation.04:36
deven_how to limit workspace to 104:37
escottcnz, as long as it is between 0 and 100% thats allowed04:37
IbidemSumesh: put them in .Xmodmap, IIRC04:38
cnzescott, is this correct tune2fs -c 004:38
escottcnz, i dont know. check the man page04:39
rushboyescott, after cloning a particular repository via git if I edit the code will I be able to see the changes in the concerned application as well ?04:39
escottrushboy, if you recompile and install your version04:39
rushboyescott, so is this correct : first a clone a repo , then edit a chunk of code and commit it and maybe installing the version  i committed will make my changes visible ? (this might be very vague to ask but pardon me I am new to open source softwares )04:42
escottrushboy, yes, but you should be careful installing your own versions you dont want to overwrite the existing version or in some way break other programs04:43
cnzdr_willis you know how to change it with tune2fs I read the man pages but still lost04:43
dr_williscnz:  set the % to be zero i recall04:44
dr_willisthe change may not take effect untill a reboot however04:44
rushboyescott, thanks :)04:44
escott!packaging | rushboy04:45
ubotturushboy: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring04:45
escottrushboy, read those docs to get a sense for how it works. also look at checkinstall04:45
cnzyeah -m 004:46
cnzdoes it need to be reformatted after that04:46
escottcnz, no. but it should be fscked04:46
cnzk04:46
Tex_NickHorizonXP : you can install Ubuntu on a chromebook the same as you would on any other x86 platform ... www.ubuntu.com @ the top of the page choose "Download" then look @ 12.04 installation instructions ... for specific questions, you could ask in this channel04:49
cnzhhmm04:49
cnzI cant' umount it after running tune2fs04:49
escottcnz, you should have umounted before running tune2fs04:50
dr_willisi seem to recall always doing it on a unmounteted fs.04:50
cnzaahh04:50
cnzwell poop LOL04:50
dr_willismay be a good idea to reboot. ;)04:50
dr_willisthose setings may not take effect untill after a reboot anyway04:50
cnzyep LOL04:51
cnzgreat :(04:53
cnzsystem is fucked :(04:53
IbidemHorizonXP: Tex_Nick is right unless it's a Samsung chromebook, which is arm04:53
Ibidemcnz: unbootable? or just that partition unmountable?04:54
Tex_NickIbidem : thanks for the correction ;)04:55
cnzIbidem, system wont boot, get the grub menu select to boot and that's it04:56
cnzIbidem, looks like the system is unbootable04:58
cnzwhich I don't see why the os drive would even be effected04:58
ariane5does ubuntu play youtube videos?04:59
Ibidemcnz: what happens if you select recovery/remove "quiet" ?05:00
almoxarifeariane5: yes05:00
Ibidemariane5: install flashplugin-installer or such05:00
Ibidemotherwise, it's only HTML5, which works for most videos05:01
ariane5if i install flash ubuntu will work not good i think05:01
ariane5the same is with java05:02
cnzthis just reminds me on why I quit using ubuntu05:02
Patero-ngwhen was gnome stopped being used05:03
ariane5do i right ?05:03
cnzIbidem ok that booted to a menu05:04
almoxarifecnz: you quit because you cant install ubuntu on a toaster?05:04
cnzlol almoxarife05:04
escottalmoxarife, those BSG toasters will kill you before you get close enough to insert the install media. its a bad idea05:05
almoxarifeescott: the kerosene powered ones are more forgiving05:06
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HorizonXPTex_Nick, Ibidem: No, I was referring to the ARM Chromebook05:07
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cnzIbidem, looks like something is wrong with /dev/sda05:08
dr_williscnz:  you didend use that tunefs command on sda? but on sda1 or sda?05:09
cnzsda105:09
dr_willisok. ;)05:10
cnzsorry should've been more specific05:10
dr_willisive never had tune2fs hurt a fs.05:10
cnzwell it's not mounting05:10
cnzso its hanging up05:10
dr_willisive also never used tune2fs on a mounted fs. ;)05:11
dr_williscan a live cd mount the fs?05:11
davidoknerI can't believe I figured out how to install java by following the directions.05:11
davidoknerCouldn't Ubuntu have an Oracle Java installer in the app store?05:12
dr_willis'always read and follow label directions'05:12
dr_willisdavidokner:  no.. oracle wont let them05:12
davidoknerdr_willis: Could Ubuntu Create some kind of automation script?05:12
dr_willisthere used to be one.. then Oravle changed the licenseing terms05:12
davidoknerLike a script that downloads it and runs the commands?05:13
dr_willisthe gpl java works for me.05:13
cnzdr_willis I just mounted it manually05:13
dr_willisdavidokner:  the webupd8 ppa has a script05:13
cnzbooted the system in recovery mode05:13
cnzwell from the recovery mode kernel05:13
suttiwitwhoa05:13
davidoknerMy IDE requires Oracle Java.05:13
suttiwitwait a sec05:13
davidoknerRubyMine requires Oracle java they said.05:13
IbidemHorizonXP: looks like you need chrbuntu05:13
dr_willisnever heard of it.05:13
Tex_NickHorizonXP : if you google "install ubuntu on arm chromebook" you'll find a lot of info ... sorry i can't help yoy specifically on arm ... there are people here who can though ... maybe not at the moment ... keep trying though05:14
davidoknerNot having java could be a problem for casual user adoption of Ubuntu.05:14
dr_willisfor the casual user the gpl java works in most cases05:14
davidoknerdr_willis: Oh05:14
dr_willisblame oracle for their silly licensing.05:14
suttiwitWHY? You know, if one ubuntu server version is EOL, the server ppl gonna have to upgrade, right? but for servers, they can't reboot, turn off or else the whole thing will shutdown.05:14
davidoknerdr_willis: I'm not even sure if most people use java anymore today on desktops. They use flash a lot though.05:15
davidoknerUbuntu seems to be like a harder to use version of OS X05:15
suttiwitIs there a way to upgrade without rebooting.05:15
Abhijithi. i downloaded ubuntu font from http://font.ubuntu.com/ by clicking download for free. and i extracted the zip dolder into .fonts in /home directory. but in abiword and libreoffice writer i can only see 4 veriations i.e. ubuntu, mono, condesned and light. i cant see greek, latin, cyrillic and other variations. i am using opensuse 12.205:15
IbidemOracle says that the GPL java is the reference version05:15
nubfestngaloresuttiwit, ksplice05:15
dr_willisso anything that  'needs' oracle java is not following the standard? ;)05:16
Hwkilleris openjdk GPL?05:16
nubfestngaloresuttiwit, pay attention for possible problems via own google researches before using it, just in case05:16
Ibidemdr_willis, Hwkiller: yes to both05:17
kristian-aalborgcheers05:17
kristian-aalborgrunning Lubuntu05:17
davidoknerFubuntu?05:18
kristian-aalborgwww.lubuntu.net05:18
kristian-aalborgLXDE on top05:18
cnzwoot05:18
cnzsysem is hosed05:18
* dr_willis gives cnz a gold star. for record time in hoseing a system05:19
dr_willis;)05:19
cnzI would really like to know why tune2fs screwed up the whole system05:19
kristian-aalborgtar: /home/kristian/.dropbox/command_socket: socket ignored05:19
kristian-aalborg<kristian-aalborg> tar: /home/kristian/.dropbox/iface_socket: socket ignored05:19
dr_willisive never had it mess up a system05:19
cnzyeah it won't boot05:19
kristian-aalborgI got this message when doing something unrelated05:19
cnzjust goes to black screen and hangs there05:19
dr_willisi do think ive used it on mounted / befor also.05:20
HorizonXPTex_Nick: yeah, i've been looking through those. I haven't got my Chromebook yet, just researching right now. Thanks tho05:20
cnzbut the recovery krenel will boot to a menu05:20
cnzI really wished debian liked ati05:20
cnzI would go back to debian05:20
dr_willisno one likes ati. ;) its just tolerated05:21
cnzlol05:21
cnzthey have seriously gone way down kill05:21
Tex_NickHorizonXP : hey no problem ... and it is being done by many people ... looks like ... good luck :)05:21
dr_willisfrom what i read amd/ati needs to do some hard work to turn things around..05:22
cnzdr_willis, yeah they do05:22
dr_willisi havent bought either in years.05:22
cnzwell I bought the 6870 beginning of the year05:23
cnzbig mistake05:23
cnzshould've went iwth the 560ti05:23
dr_willisnow if intel would just get in gear and make some kicking 3d cards....05:23
cnzlol05:23
phunyguy_t430sdr_willis, agreed.05:23
cnznvidia needs to make some cards with more outputs05:23
dr_willisi saw some 'usb' external monitors that are supposed to work with 12.1005:24
cnzusb monitors huh05:24
cnzthat's interesting05:24
cnzwow system booted05:24
dr_willisyep. about $90 for a 15 inch one05:24
cnzhow can I find out wtf was going on and why it took like 20minutes to boot05:25
escottcnz, dmesg05:25
dr_williscnz:  perhaps it was fscking?05:25
cnzdr_willis maybe05:25
cnzbut now I don't even have network support05:26
RickZilla!lang dr_willis05:26
cnzfriggin awesome05:26
RickZilla!language dr_willis05:26
RickZilladang, I tried05:26
dr_willisbut ive never had a system take that long to fsck.  how big was the fs?05:26
dr_willisthe bot has been sickly today05:26
phunyguy_t430scorrect syntax would help05:27
escottubottu heal thyself05:27
RickZillaYeah, I can see that05:27
RickZillaI just didn't think works like fsck were allowed in here05:27
phunyguy_t430s!language | dr_willis05:27
ubottudr_willis: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.05:27
phunyguy_t430ssee?05:28
canaima_hola05:28
RickZillaGot it...thanks05:28
canaima_quien05:28
escott!es | canaima_05:28
ubottucanaima_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:28
RickZillacanaima_ #ubuntu-es05:28
mynameisthomhello, I'm starting to learn bash script. I'd like to ask, what is $? means in bash script?05:28
Hwkillerthe error code of the last run command05:29
phunyguy_t430smynameisthom, IIR error code05:29
phunyguy_t430sIIRC*05:29
canaima_no05:29
canaima_mi pc no quieres abrir nada de inter05:29
phunyguy_t430sok #2.05:30
phunyguy_t430s!es | canaima_05:30
ubottucanaima_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:30
RickZillacanaima_ #ubuntu-es, mi espanol no es muy bueno, lo siento05:30
RickZillaWhere would be a recommended resource for learning how to run a server with ubuntu?05:31
cnzok redid the partitioning of the sda hopefully that fixes something but I doubt it05:31
phunyguy_t430s!ubuntu-server | RickZilla05:32
ubottuRickZilla: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server05:32
mynameisthomphunyguy_t430s: thank you05:32
phunyguy_t430sfor?05:32
cnzdr_willis, what's the chancs of the hard drive being bad?05:33
phunyguy_t430soh, right.05:33
phunyguy_t430sI'm tired05:33
kristian-aalborgthis is too weird... I can't ls in my home dir05:34
phunyguy_t430skristian-aalborg, who ownes it?05:35
phunyguy_t430sowns*05:35
kristian-aalborgphunyguy_t430s, I do?05:35
phunyguy_t430skristian-aalborg, either that is true, or your HDD is bad.05:36
Tex_Nickcnz : years of pc troubleshooting lead me to beleive that what Linus Torvalds said about hard drives ( They are the devil ) is true :)05:36
phunyguy_t430sisn't*05:36
dr_williscnz i find hard drives to be the most likely to fail part of any pc these days05:37
cnzwell even if it is f'ed I will get a replacement it's not even a year old05:37
cnzhas a 3year warranty05:37
phunyguy_t430scnz, you will need an error code for that.05:38
cnzdr_willis this is even odd, even the live cd is taking for ever to boot05:38
dr_willisif you can convince them its bad. ;)05:38
* Logitech is wondering why video playback is soo choppy05:38
* phunyguy_t430s glares at cnz's motherboard.05:38
cnzlol it's not the motherboard05:38
Abhijithi. i downloaded ubuntu font from http://font.ubuntu.com/ by clicking download for free. and i extracted the zip dolder into .fonts in /home directory. but in abiword and libreoffice writer i can only see 4 veriations i.e. ubuntu, mono, condesned and light. i cant see greek, latin, cyrillic and other variations. i am using opensuse 12.205:39
phunyguy_t430smhm.05:39
cnzI blame ubuntus install boot images just to take 3days to boot to install screen05:39
phunyguy_t430snot sure opensuse is supported here05:39
phunyguy_t430sAbhijit, #opensuse ?05:40
TheLordOfTimecnz, i think the issue's your system, not the live CD.  it loads in about 3 minutes here.05:40
TheLordOfTimeand on a lot of my clients' systems too.05:40
cnzlol I doubt it's mysystem05:40
kristian-aalborghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125091505:40
cnzi5 ivy bridge 16gigs of ram05:40
RickZillacnz: Yeah, if ubuntu takes three days to boot on your machine, and three minutes on everybody else's, the problem probably isn't the boot cd.05:40
phunyguy_t430scnz : famous last words05:40
phunyguy_t430scnz, I hate the same type of system05:41
cnzRickZilla LOL I was exaderading (how ever that word is spelled)05:41
almoxarifecnz: you proved that either you cant install something or your toaster is not ready for a ubuntu install05:41
phunyguy_t430smine starts fast on the livecd05:41
cnzalmoxarife lol05:41
cnzlol05:42
phunyguy_t430sowned.05:42
cnzphunyguy_t430s, probably my pos lg blu-ray burner05:42
phunyguy_t430scnz, maybe sol05:42
phunyguy_t430sso*05:42
phunyguy_t430sI have to go to sleep.05:42
phunyguy_t430sg/n05:42
cheesecakescan i add another distro to my current setup which includes:ubuntu + win xp05:43
Tex_Nickcnz : FYI ... Western Digital offers a free Drive diagnostic tool, it used to be called "wddiag" i think ... Segate also has one , not sure what it's called though05:44
cheesecakesthe main thing i am confused about is grub2 configuration05:44
almoxarifecheesecakes: if you can install it it can be included05:44
almoxarifecheesecakes: no grub yet?05:45
cheesecakesi have grun2 installed05:45
cheesecakes*grub05:45
cheesecakesshould i install another grub2 while installing say arch05:46
almoxarifecheesecakes: if grub is already there then grub is a non-issue, generally05:46
cheesecakesor will grub auto detect?05:46
almoxarifecheesecakes: grub should auto detect05:46
cheesecakesso i skip the part about installing grub05:46
cheesecakes*bootloader05:47
thunder1212i use ubuntu 12.04.105:47
almoxarifecheesecakes: i would, yes05:47
thunder1212i use it on my laptop and that is the only os i installed05:47
cheesecakesso just create a partition and install the os and i'll have a menu entry?05:48
cheesecakesin grub05:48
thunder1212recently i tried debian 6 and installed it alongside ubuntu05:48
almoxarifecheesecakes: pretty much05:48
cheesecakesok cool05:48
thunder1212then i decided to rremove debian.. so i logged in to ubuntu and deleted the partiition containing debian05:48
cheesecakesno need for a seperate boot partition too05:49
almoxarifethunder1212: can you place all that info on one line?05:49
phunyguy_t430s!enter | thunder121205:49
ubottuthunder1212: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:49
thunder1212no when i boot i get error grub rescue>05:50
thunder1212: ( what to do now05:50
thunder1212almoxarife: ok sorry..05:50
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phunyguy_t430s!guidelines | thunder121205:51
ubottuthunder1212: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines05:51
dr_willisdetermine what os you want to manage grub.  use a live cd to repair grub from that os05:51
thunder1212dr_willis: right now i am chatting from ubuntu 12.04.1 live disk05:52
dr_willisthe 'boot-repair' tool from a ubuntu live cd should fix it all up05:52
thunder1212dr_willis: where is the tool05:52
dr_willisyou will need to install boot-repair however05:52
dr_willis!fixgrub05:52
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)05:52
dr_willisthe boot-repair wiki page has the exact commands to use to install it05:53
* dr_willis wishes they would include it by default...05:53
Lemanjatodo en ingles¿05:54
aeon-ltd!es05:56
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:56
Karlo_Hi.  I just did apt-get install smbfs; then [as root] LOGNAME=karlo USER=karlo smbmount //10.10.10.4/SHAREDIR /mnt/foop -o 'username=karlo,uid=karlo'; this correctly made /mnt/foop point to SHAREDIR on the Windows machine on the LAN.  However, the directory and the files in it are all owned by root instead of me.  Did I skip a step?05:57
Abhijitphunyguy_t430s, i am talking about "ubuntu" fonts btw. fyi. in case you have missed it.05:58
droidmaxxxguys how can I login as root in ubuntu??06:00
thunder1212dr_willis: ok.. i did the recomended repair no i'll reboot06:00
Abhijitdroidmaxxx, you can not from gui. from terminal do sudo su06:00
cnzdr_willis the only good thing asbout ati is their output display ability06:00
dr_willisdroidmaxxx:  use sudo as needed is the proper way06:00
cnzmy card will support up to 6 monitors06:00
dr_willisdont do 'sudo su' ;)06:00
Abhijitsu06:00
dr_willissudo -s06:00
Abhijiti see06:01
thunder1212dr_willis: or should i use advanced settings06:01
dr_williscnz:  you must have a big desk06:01
droidmaxxxAbhijit: hmm... dr_willis I'm trying to edit tor config file in here /etc/default/tor but I cant06:01
dr_willisthunder1212:  the normal 'fix stuff' settings seem to work for me06:01
cnznope06:01
Abhijitdroidmaxxx, sudo nano /etc/decault/tor06:01
dr_willisdroidmaxxx:  yes you can....06:01
cnzgoing to mount 4 small tv/monitors 2 on each side of my 60" tv06:01
cnzso will have a total of 506:02
droidmaxxxAbhijit: what's nano do??06:02
dr_williscnz:  and get a  nice tan06:02
cnzlol why would I get a nice tan06:02
dr_willis!info nano06:02
cnzwell it is still pretty hot here lol06:02
cnzit's been in the 80s :(06:02
dr_willisnano = a text editor06:02
ubottunano (source: nano): small, friendly text editor inspired by Pico. In component main, is standard. Version 2.2.6-1 (quantal), package size 175 kB, installed size 584 kB06:02
cnznano = pico renamed06:03
droidmaxxxokays :)06:03
cnzwhich will never be as bad ass as vim06:03
_TristanUsing 12.04. Got drunk last night and tried to make optimus work. How can I reset my graphics driver stuff back to the defaults without reinstalling my OS?06:03
dr_willisnano = annoying for  'complete' beginners. ;)06:03
Abhijitdroidmaxxx, a command line text editor06:03
droidmaxxxAbhijit: opened it... shows nothing total blank... I can see that editor GUI in terminal..06:04
dr_willisyou spelt the path/file wrong..06:04
dr_willisor it is empty ;)06:04
droidmaxxxAbhijit: dr_willis can I edit it using normal GUI editor like leafpad ??06:05
dr_willis!gksudo06:05
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)06:05
Abhijit!tor | time to do some reading droidmaxxx06:05
ubottutime to do some reading droidmaxxx: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl06:05
dr_williswith gksudo  yes...06:05
dr_willissudo for cli apps.. gksudo for gui apps06:06
droidmaxxxAbhijit: I know abt tor :P I'm not familiar with Ubuntu... this sudo thingy and command can you suggest some online fast guide to all this??06:06
Abhijitdroidmaxxx, you dont know what is path to edit and whats the file to edit. learn tor first. not the ubuntu06:07
droidmaxxx:(06:07
dr_willis;(?06:07
afeaglewhen installing Ubuntu Server, does /boot have to be in a separate partition?06:07
dr_willisafeagle:  i dont think its required. but itd common in many setups06:08
cnzFING HELL06:08
afeaglethen in that case, should the /boot partition come before root or after?06:08
afeagleor does it matter?06:08
dr_willisold skool ways put /boot/ as the first partiton on the hd.06:09
cnzdr_willis, tune2fs won't take now06:09
cnzI unmounted the drive06:09
cnzran tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda106:09
Karlo_droidmaxxx: the sudo thingy is simply: "sudo COMMAND" means "do COMMAND as super user (root)".06:09
cnzfsck /dev/sda1 then formatted it06:09
dr_willislilo limts had /boot/ being totally belo the 1024 cylinder  boundry06:09
cnzand remounted and it's still taking up 5%06:09
dr_williscnz:  you tune2fs it after formating06:10
cnzk06:10
cnzthen fsck it06:10
droidmaxxxKarlo_: I know what sudo does :\ I had used it to apt-get  etc ect06:10
dr_willisand im not sure why you fscked bedor formating06:10
afeagleI have used ubuntu desktop pretty heavily the last 5 years, but decided to venture into server use, but am having booting trouble06:10
voxadamI'm running 12.10 server on VMWare and for some reason am unable to find the openssh-client and openssh-server packages that the offical documentation tells me should be available.06:10
dr_willisyou can setup a desktop to do servedr tasks06:11
afeagleI have the boot first then root right behind the windows load, but when I try to install grub it keeps failing06:11
droidmaxxxAbhijit: dr_willis I got my mistake :P that nano you gave was sudo nano /etc/decault/tor but its "sudo nano /etc/default/tor" :) working06:11
cnzdr_willis, well what is the correct order to do it06:11
cnzI have tried it both ways and it wont' resize it06:11
dr_willis!tab | droidmaxxx06:12
ubottudroidmaxxx: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.06:12
cnzit's still doing 5%06:12
Abhijitgod06:12
afeaglewindows by itself starts just fine, but once I drop Ubuntu Server in, I get the loathsome no disc error!06:12
dr_williscnz:  fdisk, format, tune2fs. reboot06:12
droidmaxxxubottu: I know that :P06:12
ubottudroidmaxxx: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:12
* droidmaxxx facepalm06:12
cnzdr_willis, ok will try it again06:12
afeagleso with win taking partition 1, boot taking partition 2 and root taking partition 3, which one should I install the grub into during install?06:13
dr_willisafeagle:  grub goes on the hd. not a partition. ie: sda   NOT sda06:13
dr_willisafeagle:  grub goes on the hd. not a partition. ie: sda   NOT sda106:14
dr_willisand you really dont need a /boot/ partition06:14
afeagleI thought I read that on one of the forums, but doesnt that put it into the MBR by specifying only the drive?06:14
dr_willisgrub goes in the mbr... yes06:14
droidmaxxxAbhijit: can you tell me what to press to use command ^O or ^R ?? in nano ??06:14
cnzLOL06:14
Abhijitdroidmaxxx, CTRl06:15
DrGrovI gotta wonder, how does login screen wallpapers get changed in 12.04? I does not stick when I change it.06:15
dr_willis^ = press the control ket06:15
dr_williskey06:15
Abhijitthe control button06:15
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cnzI love grub boot errors06:15
afeaglefor some reason I thought that I read somewhere that putting it into the MBR on a multi boot system was a bad thing?06:15
dr_willis#1 resson i hate nano as a reccomendation to beginners06:15
* Abhijit blesses cnz with loads of grub errors for his lifetime.06:15
dr_willisafeagle:  ive always put it in the mbr.. for years06:15
cnzlol Abhijit06:15
droidmaxxxAbhijit: is write out same as save??06:16
dr_willisgrub on the mbr = common practiced06:16
afeagleok, thanks for the assistance!06:16
Abhijitdr_willis, ok droidmaxxx do not use nano for the time bing.i give you 15 mins. use vim or vi. and come back and give your valuable reply to dr_willis .06:16
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Abhijitdroidmaxxx, yes06:16
afeagleI thought so, but then ran across that post and it really had me upside down06:16
kdccbHOW TO CONNETCT WIFI MOBILES TO WIRED CONNECTIONS06:16
dr_williswrite out the buffer to a file .. = save06:17
dr_willis!ics | kdccb06:17
ubottukdccb: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing06:17
hilarieWhen you are using other peoples commands from forums and stuff, sometimes it has & or && in them, what does that do, I can't seem to google it06:17
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dr_willishilarie:  'bash job controll'  check06:18
dr_willis& = run in background06:18
Tex_Nickafeagle : Wikipedia has a rather good description of the MBR "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record"06:18
afeagleso then could it be a problem that these os are going on sdf instead of sda?06:18
droidmaxxxdr_willis: Wrote :)  thank you....06:18
dr_willis&& = run following IF first succedes06:18
kdccbthanks dr_willis06:18
hilariedr_willis, thank you06:18
dr_willisafeagle:  grub goes on the mbr of the hd you want to boot. you have not mentioned partioning other disks.. just the one06:19
dr_willisyou can put linux all on sdf. and grub on sdf also.. then boot sdf.. leaving windows untouched06:19
afeagleI know, I have four other drives in RAID for storage, and they show as A-D but they have to be on those due to being the only ones that are RAID enable, so was worried that being on sdf may cause an issue06:20
dr_willisi dont do raid. so no idea on that06:20
afeaglesde is a blank test bed drive, unused06:20
afeaglejust wondering if having them all on sdf including MBR could cause an issue instead of sda06:21
afeagleTex_Nick, thanks for the site!06:22
prabuhow to install skype in ubuntu 1206:23
Tex_Nickafeagle : hey no problem ... it's a good article ;-)06:24
DrGrovHow could I make Dash forget everything? It remembers my Videos, Music etc etc. and I do not like that. I tried MyUnity, Ubuntu Tweak etc. and have them installed but I must be missing something on how to set up.06:24
afeagleThanks dr_willis for all the great intel06:24
_Tristanis there any way to make it log in automatically... without a gui?06:24
fleet_skeethow do i add/change software sources in quantal quetzal? on unity.06:24
Patero-ngwhen was gnome stopped being used06:26
fleet_skeetanyone?06:26
fleet_skeethow to change sources in quantal quetzal?06:27
fleet_skeetand add more sources06:27
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afeagleone last question, during the install, do I mark just /boot as bootable or root as well?  I don't remember seeing this option in earlier versions.06:30
dr_willisPatero-ng:  unity runs on top of gnome306:31
dr_willisits a shell for gnome06:31
dr_willisi dont think grub cares about the bootable flag06:31
dr_willis!repos | fleet_skeet06:32
afeaglemakes sense, thanks again dr_willis06:32
fleet_skeetdr_willis: what? how to change? this goddamn interface is horrible06:32
dr_willisfleet_skeet:   same as its always been done.. /etc/apt/sources.list or sources.list.d or the software-sources tool06:33
dr_willisor use  the ppa commands to add ppas06:33
ubottufleet_skeet: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories06:34
_Tristancould somebody help me reset my graphics? I've tried every tutorial and read every thread.06:34
dr_willis_Tristan:  depends on what you did to them06:35
_Tristandon't remember, was drunk06:35
_TristanI think I installed the x-swat ppa06:35
dr_willisthen i suggest a reinstall.06:35
SpeedArtBotI like Vi06:35
_Tristanand a few nvidia drivers06:35
dr_willistheres the ppa-purge tools06:35
_TristanI did ppa-purge06:35
voxadamHow do I get rid of the standard motd? I edited it as root and saved it but the damn thing came back. While we06:35
snkthello06:35
dr_willisbut we dont know what you did.. so we cant really advise what to do06:35
_Tristanoh, wait a minute, I do have bash history06:36
dr_willis!motd06:36
_Tristanthough I can't exactly tell what I was doing...06:36
snktcan anyone help me how to install splash screen on ubuntu 11.10  for ARM .... I have used ubuntucore image for ARM...06:36
dr_willismotd is handled by  a service.. is about all i recall.06:36
dr_willisits built up from  some other files in /etc/06:37
Patero-ngwhen was gnome stopped being used06:38
dr_willisPatero-ng:  unity is a shell for gnome3.. so the answer is 'never'06:39
Patero-ngwhen was unity started then06:39
dr_willis!unity06:39
ubottuUnity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity06:40
dr_willisabout 4 releases ago i think06:40
Patero-ngmany people didn't like that dr_jesus06:41
dr_willisPatero-ng:  so?06:41
Tex_NickPatero-ng : "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases" might help you06:41
dr_willisdo you have an actual support question?06:41
Patero-ngif people don't like it is because something is wrong with unity06:41
dr_willisPatero-ng:  your logic is flawed..06:41
dr_willisdo you have an actual support question?06:42
Patero-ngthanks06:42
Patero-ngno yet but thanks for being so precious06:42
fleet_skeetPatero-ng: case in point : its damn hard to find the advanced settings. and there is no "fallback" option at login, to change out of the default unity06:42
dr_willisthe fallback option was scheduled to be removed in the next release.. but i think its been given an extention. :)06:43
fleet_skeethow do i make a usb drive bootable? from ubuntu?06:43
Patero-ngI liked how 10.04 was I still have it on my older pc06:43
dr_willisfleet_skeet:  what are you trying to get it to boot?06:44
Tex_Nickfleet_skeet : usually done through BIOS :Boot Priority"06:45
dr_williswas that what he was asking?06:45
Patero-ngeres lindo06:46
Tex_Nickdr_willis : not sure ... seemed like it though ?06:46
dr_willisMind reading skill is required for helping in this channel..06:47
fleet_skeetwell, im trying to install ubuntu onto it06:47
fleet_skeeti have a usb drive, with 4 partitions06:48
Patero-ngrely how big is it06:48
fleet_skeetPatero-ng: 4 gb :)06:48
dr_willisyou 'image' the ubuntu iso onto a usb in different ways... you can boot a usb flasn and do a 'full' install to a 2nd usb flash/usb if you wanted06:48
fleet_skeetim trying to install ubuntu on the 4th partition06:48
fleet_skeetdr_willis: ok, that sound logical.06:49
TheLordOfTimenot certain 1GB is enough to fully run Ubuntu...06:49
dr_williswhy would you partition a 4gb usb? ;)06:49
TheLordOfTimethat's a good question, too :P06:49
fleet_skeetdr_willis: some sort of crazy experiment. dont ask06:49
SpacePoethow big should i make my install partition?06:49
fleet_skeeti want the linux partition to be encrypted06:49
dr_willisgrub2 can be setup to boot iso files06:49
fleet_skeetand the other 3 partitions to be encrypted, but unlockable06:50
dr_willis1gb is not big enough to install 12.10 onto i imagine06:50
dr_willis4gb would be barely enough i bet06:50
sub__I'd say 16gb to be safe.06:50
dr_willisassuming you want to do any real work with it06:50
Patero-ngyou can boot live from 800mb usb partition06:51
fleet_skeetok, here is the thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209359106:51
Tex_Nickdr_willis : i made an asumption ... thanks for reminding of that bad side of doing so :)06:51
dr_willisyou can 'boot' from a 128mb flash also... but  thats besided the point06:51
fleet_skeetso, i get a bigger drive?06:52
fleet_skeethold on, brb06:52
Patero-nghe can boot and save data onto other partition I am saying am i right06:53
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dr_willisyou can do a 'full' install to usb flash and have all sorts of partitions if you wanted to06:53
dr_willisfor a useable system  / would need to be a few gb in size06:54
TheLordOfTimei agree with dr_willis, you'd need a few GBs of disk space for it to be truly usable06:54
TheLordOfTimebootability != usability06:55
Patero-ngare there pendrives of size 120 or higher06:55
TheLordOfTime120 GB?06:56
TheLordOfTimenot that i'm aware of.06:56
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rushboycan anyone please help me with this : if I clone a repository from using clone command in terminal doesn't that serve the purpose of the software also being installed ? (the software concerned here is ClamAV and the git repository is : https://github.com/doomicon/ClamAV)06:56
Patero-ngis about time06:57
afterknave1963allu on gaay06:57
TheLordOfTimerushboy, you got the source code, not the binaries that're built from the source code.06:57
TheLordOfTimerushboy, you'd have to build that from source following its instructions for building and installing06:57
TheLordOfTimethen it'd be available06:57
aleksipelkonenmoro06:57
afterknave1963aleksi pelkonen on homo06:58
afterknave1963levit06:58
dr_willisthere are 128gb usb flash drives.. but they are expensive06:58
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AleksiAllu on Gay!!06:58
TheLordOfTimeand last i checked not *easily* available to get06:58
dr_willis32gb goes forf $25 or so on sale06:59
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rushboyTheLordOfTime, so how do I stall ClamAV via cloning the repository rather than actually installing it using sudo apt-get install06:59
dr_willislocal stores had the 128's   for likr $14506:59
TheLordOfTimerushboy, i just told you?O06:59
TheLordOfTimerushboy, read the README in that repository06:59
TheLordOfTimerushboy, um...07:00
dr_williswhy do you need to compile clamav?07:00
xPower-Manterve terve kansa :D07:00
TheLordOfTimedr_willis, it uses RPMs o.O07:00
Guest10522Aleksi Pelkonen on homo!07:00
dr_willistheres ppa's for clamav last i looked07:00
TheLordOfTimerushboy, there's no code in there, you should go find a PPA for clamav and use that.07:00
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TheLordOfTimebut those're unsupported so...07:00
xVERRAUxNii on !07:00
* TheLordOfTime doesn't want to say that's a truly good idea :P07:00
dr_willisof course next question is .. why do you need clamav. ;)07:00
xVERRAUxxPowerMan is Gay !!!!!!HERE IS SMAAL PENIS !!07:01
TheLordOfTime!ops | xVERRAUx07:01
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rushboydr_willis, there is no need as such for me to install clamAv . Just wanted to install any random program using git07:02
cnzif grub got installed to a drive that I didnt want it on for example grub got installed on /dev/sda and /dev/sdc I only want it on /dev/sdc is there a way to get it off of /dev/sda so grub will actually try to boot the correct drive07:02
TheLordOfTimerushboy, git isnt built to install anything07:02
TheLordOfTimerushboy, git's usually used for source code versioning, not installation of software...07:02
rushboyTheLordOfTime, I'm sorry but I am confused here .This might be a very stupid question : If I cloning does not serve the purpose of installing a program then what exactly do people use clone ?07:07
rushboy*why07:07
dr_willis'installing' is not the same as compileing and coding and debuging07:08
rushboydr_willis, then if I want to edit a piece of code of a given software and test it how do I do so ?07:09
thunder1212dr_willis: thnx.. the boot-repair worked!!07:09
dr_willisa group   of people would use git to work on a project that when  done could be compiled and packaged and distributed for people to install via .deb or other ways07:10
rinzlerhow do I enable ALT-tabbing between all windows regardless of desktop?07:10
dr_willisthunder1212:  its a handy tool. needs to be on the default cds ;)07:10
thunder1212dr_willis: it must be there by default in ubuntu07:10
Patero-ngare there computers being sold that come preloaded with ubuntu 1207:12
dr_willisandchat crashed on me. ;()07:12
dr_willisPatero-ng:  system76 has severaL07:12
damms005Sorry good people, but I need help with ubuntu php ./configure and I cant /J #ubuntu because I am not invited07:12
dr_willishmm.. this is #ubuntu ;)07:12
dr_willisyou mean #php? it may be regiestered nicks only07:13
Jordan_U!register | damms00507:13
ubottudamms005: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode07:13
damms005yes sorry, #php07:13
Patero-ngdamms005 this channel is not to talk about php07:14
Jordan_UPatero-ng: Yes, http://zareason.com/ , and http://system76.com among others.07:15
dr_williswell i dont know much about php. :)07:15
damms005dr_willis knows too much about linux :)07:15
dr_willis!lamp07:15
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.07:15
dr_willisis all i know on php. ;z007:16
dr_willisive never used it07:16
Jordan_UPatero-ng: Note that there is no "Ubuntu 12" though, there are however versions 12.04 and 12.10 of Ubuntu.07:16
rinzlerhow do I enable ALT-tabbing between all windows regardless of desktop?07:16
thunder1212dr_willis: any way i can block access to torrents in my network07:16
dr_willisrinzler:  askubuntu.com may have an answer. i think you can do it via the ccsm tools/plugins07:17
dr_willisthunder1212:  not that i know of07:17
riqdiizHi   I have tried to install slitaz but it has proved futile. Any time I run the live CD it goes straight to xterm window. So I get stuck from there. How do l boot into GUI tazpanel?07:17
rinzlerdr_willis: mmkay. Thanks07:17
dr_willisriqdiiz:  ask in the slitaz support channels07:18
thunder1212any body know how i can easily block torrents from my router or limit upload download speed07:21
Patero-ngthrough a mathematical algorithm07:22
dr_willisthere are nonmathamatical algorithms?07:23
ktimscan someone explain how networkmanager starts dnsmasq? there seems to be no config and no script. it's setting it to listen on 127.0.0.1 but puts 127.0.1.1 in the resolv.conf07:23
lngHi! Need to get mtop, but E: Unable to locate package mtop07:23
Patero-ngI dont know07:23
dchernivdr_willis, cooking recipes07:23
dr_willis!info mtop07:23
ubottuPackage mtop does not exist in quantal07:23
dr_willising looks like you find a ppa for it or use source...07:24
lngdr_willis: can I grab it from lucid?07:24
dr_willismixing packages from different releases is not a good idea07:24
lngdr_willis: ok, I will install it manually07:26
AnAntHello, I am trying to install Ubuntu precise on a Dell PowerEdge T410 server, the installer is asking me for disk driver, can anyone help ?07:26
dr_willis #ubuntu-server  or askubuntu.com may help   AnAnt07:30
Karlo_Argh.  When I use the GUI, the Windows share does show up with the correct uid (my own); but when I try to do it from the command line, everything is shown as being owned by root.  I seem to be doing everything right according to the man page.07:31
dr_willisKarlo_:   using mount aftet using the gui way may show what options it used.07:33
dr_willisbut it may be using gvfs..07:33
damms005Sorry please, but I couldnt join #php07:35
kshakirhi Elv1307:36
Elv13hi07:36
SwedeMikea/win 407:37
damms005pleasedo I always have to reconnect after error: connection closed after many retries?07:37
Tex_Nickdamms005 : #php is up & running ... you probably need to register your nick with the freenode server in order to join07:37
thunder1212dr_willis: can i set speed limits from my wifi router07:37
dr_willisthunder1212:  i dont know what features your router has..  so no idea07:37
damms005Tex_Nick: I have done /nick damms00507:38
dr_willisived never noticed the feasture on any routers07:38
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* rinzler sighs07:39
* dr_willis moos07:39
Karlo_dr_willis: Yes, I did try querying with the mount command, but it is indeed using gvfs...07:39
Tex_Nickdamms005 : see "http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration" for help :)07:40
dr_willisKarlo_:  ages ago i sat down and read the 'using samba' book. ;) its in the repos  in the 'samba-doc' package it has lots of examples07:40
dr_willis!info samba-doc07:40
ubottusamba-doc (source: samba): Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 2:3.6.6-3ubuntu4 (quantal), package size 5600 kB, installed size 13723 kB07:40
dr_willisbut its a littler old in some chapters07:40
Karlo_For what it's worth, I'm using a command that used to work fine, on a different (older) machine.  I did an apt-get tonight, to install it on the new machine, and now it's not doing what I expect.07:41
damms005Tex_Nick: but #php is registered with +i soI need tobe invited07:41
Karlo_damms005: Did you try ##php07:42
Karlo_damms005: /list #php  --> "#php moved to ##php"07:42
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Tex_Nickdamms005 : have you registered your nick with freenode ... if not try rhat07:42
damms005Karlo_: Okay Thanks. I'm on it07:43
pilotbubDoes Ubuntu really have Amazon links?07:44
RomeoAvaplease help me with that! http://pastebin.com/JFcuPKkA07:44
dr_willistheres searcxh results from amazon in 12.007:44
dr_willis12.1007:45
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RomeoAvaI don't know how to fix it07:45
dr_willispilotbub:  its mentioned on blog sites and 12.10 'new feature' articales07:45
RomeoAvayesterday I had have the same problem07:45
pilotbuban interesting choice07:45
somsip!adlens | pilotbub07:45
ubottupilotbub: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ07:45
RomeoAvait sad that: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems07:46
RomeoAvaand I run, and the same advice cam: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems07:46
serp_keep running it!!07:47
dr_willisRomeoAva:  dupicate sources is not critical.07:47
clintonshane84Hi guys. Does anyone here have experience with USB Serial devices in ubuntu? My problem, I can connect to serial GSM modem ttyUSB0 but after quite a long time, it will stop responding, if I try to send it a command after a long time after connecting to it, I can still connect to it using minicom but I cannot type AT commands into the terminal once it gets to this state. I have to unplug the modem from the usb port and plug 07:47
RomeoAvaok, please help me to fix the problem07:47
dr_willisyour  /etc/apt/soources.list or sources.list.d/* files have a redundant item07:48
dr_willisfine the duplicate and removed it07:48
RomeoAvabecause the aparance desktop is wrong07:48
dr_willisthat souldent have any real affect on the system07:48
RomeoAvathe comp is not opening in the properly mode07:48
dr_willisits doing what?07:49
RomeoAvaok, how to find it?07:49
RomeoAvaI have 2 duplicate it07:50
RomeoAvawere i can finde it?07:50
RomeoAvaand I need to cut it?07:50
RomeoAvadelete?07:50
dr_willislook in /etc/apt/sources.list07:51
dr_willisand in each file in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/07:51
bazhang!enter | RomeoAva07:51
ubottuRomeoAva: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:51
dr_willisits likely you have a redundant ppa added. or a extra line in sources.list07:52
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RomeoAvasorry :(07:52
dr_willisbut the 'error' should not be affecting your system other then to display that warning message07:53
clintonshane84there is results on google for your proble RomeoAva07:53
clintonshane84I have had that problem before07:53
dr_willisthe software sources tool may clean it up also07:54
RomeoAvaok, but the computer is not opening, is black, I ned to close it and open it again 2-3 times. after that is going in a wrong resolution, weh I tray to finde the good one there is no other then (4:3). For to fix that I need to reboot again until will go in the good resolutions07:56
clintonshane84help with usb serial GSM modem device? stops responding after some time of been used.07:56
dr_willissounds like you have much bigger issues then a sources.list warning RomeoAva07:56
clintonshane84have to unplug the device and plug into different usb port to get it working properly again07:57
clintonshane84any ideas guys?07:57
john__Anyone use Aanvaal?07:58
john__The want 3000$ for my cite. ridicolous07:58
dr_willissounds offtopic to ubuntu support also...07:58
C4zz1dysure does..07:59
john__Well it's for ununtu and not opensource07:59
C4zz1dythe bots have found us!07:59
john__iriitates me07:59
john__use snort and BASË́07:59
damms005I'm sorry for asking this, but do I always have to re-login after a failed connection (maybe my modem accidentally disconnect and freenode gives a pop like: disconnected after several attempts)07:59
dr_willisdamms005:  relogin to where?08:00
john__C4zz1dy, I am NOT a bot08:00
zjsping08:00
dr_willisyou mean 'identify' to fereenode? damms005 ? you do that everytime you connect08:00
john__I am however somwhat of a expert on UBUNTU so please ask..08:01
dr_willismost irc clients can auto identify on connection08:01
clintonshane84am I a ghost? Does anyone have experience with usb serial devices in Ubuntu?08:02
clintonshane84please help08:02
dr_willisclintonshane84:  sorry not me.08:02
clintonshane84anyone?08:02
dr_willisother then to suggest watching dmesg output and ther syslog to watch for errors08:02
john__whats' the problem?08:03
clintonshane84well, I have a GSM modem device ttyUSB0 connected and open to recieve SMS from the device and it works for hours on end08:03
clintonshane84but after a good couple of hours08:03
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clintonshane84if you send an AT command to the device, the device stops responding08:03
clintonshane84you can still connect to it08:04
clintonshane84and it says it still there, ttyUSB008:04
clintonshane84but no response from modem once this happens08:04
john__Sounds like your device is the problem08:04
clintonshane84and you have to physically unplug the modem from the usb port and change it to a different one to get it working again08:04
clintonshane84nope08:04
clintonshane84hardware is fine08:04
clintonshane84I can do a test in Windows08:05
clintonshane84to prove that08:05
FloodBot1clintonshane84: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:05
john__It works under windose?08:05
clintonshane84have not done the proper tests08:05
clintonshane84ok sorry08:05
tiimoxxhae08:05
john__sorry that should be a z08:05
clintonshane84do you think it could be a USB 2 Serial converter08:06
dr_willissort of hard to test when it only does it after seversl hours.. that almost sounds like a heat or other power type issue.08:06
pinkpelicanHIGUSY08:06
pinkpelicanhowru?08:06
john__Truth is I have no idea08:07
clintonshane84mee too08:07
john__Never had it never tried it08:07
clintonshane84ok can you tell me if there is a way to force reset the usb serial module or something like ehcd_hcd without unplugging the device to get it working again08:07
clintonshane84like from terminal?08:07
dr_willisyou could unload then reload the module08:08
dr_willisif you knew its name08:08
dr_willischeck lsmod befor you lplug it in, then afterwards when its working08:08
clintonshane84I have tried modprobe -r ehci_hcd but this gives me: FATAL: Module ehci_hcd is builtin. So how do I do that08:08
clintonshane84what will I be looking for dr_willis?08:09
dr_willisbuiltin = build into the kernel so tou cant unload it i imagine08:09
dr_williscompare the 2 lsmod outputs.. see whats different08:09
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clintonshane84ok08:09
clintonshane84ty08:09
aaasdo people mount smb shares (cifs) using fstab?  it seems like it tries to mount these shares before the network is up08:10
dr_willisaaas:  you could use the noauto option. i guess08:10
aaasdr_willis and if I want it automounted08:11
dr_willisthen mount them from rc.local  ;) but thats sort of dirty08:11
dr_willishave a delay in rc.local to give the network time to get up08:11
aaasdr_willis so i guess fstab isn't really the place for network shares, or maybe the should have a fstab-net for these things08:12
dr_willisive not doone shares in fstab in ages.. ;)08:12
aaasseems like a bug considering so many people have cifs in their fstab08:12
aaashow do you do it08:13
dr_willisi just use the nautilus mount as needed feature these days08:13
aaasah..this is headless, a server08:13
icerootaaas: there is a "wait" feature for network-shares08:13
icerootaaas: working great for cifs and nfs08:13
CUOREHI08:14
aaasiceroot a wait feature?08:14
icerootaaas: its trying to connect when the network is not up and after that its waiting until it is up08:14
aaasin fstab?08:14
icerootaaas: its a mount-option08:14
icerootwait'' which can be applied to remote filesystems mounted  outside  of  /usr  or /var,  without which mountall(8) would not hold up the boot for these; ``noboot‐ wait'' which can be applied to non-remote  filesystems  to  explicitly  instruct08:14
aaasiceroot a mount option you can put in fstab?08:14
icerootaaas: man fstab  and see "wait" there08:14
aaasiceroot thanks ill look into 'bootwait'08:15
CUORElist08:16
dr_williswhat kind of list?08:16
clintonshane84dr_willis I am having trouble making my onboard com1 port to work. I have followed instructions and checked that it is on the system but it wont work when I try to connect a modem to it08:18
clintonshane84I would rather use com1 onboard than USB to Serial converter, which I think is my problem08:18
myherowhy can't i join #android or #Android ??08:19
dr_willisive no had to use an actual serial  connection in years...   im not sure any of my machines even have a serial port these days08:19
dr_willismyhero:  regiestered nick required?08:19
iceroot!register | myhero08:19
ubottumyhero: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode08:19
dr_willisyep.. gotta registre and identify08:20
GwenniferDr_Willis: hay, I'm back. I decided to just install (K)Ubuntu, but I'm still having that problem where it won't let me go to a 1680x1050 resolution.08:21
myherodr_willis: i am on webchat.freenode.net and not any client, when opening it.....there is nickname option to be specified in the beging only08:21
dr_willisGwennifer:  since the core of the os and drivers are the same. thame makes sence08:21
notwistmyhero: read what is written to you08:22
notwist!register | myhero08:22
ubottumyhero: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode08:22
dr_willismyhero:  try /nick pickanick08:22
GwenniferSee, I told that guy that reinstalling wouldn't fix anything. So uhm, now what?08:22
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clintonshane84current systems still have onboard serial, just no header attached by default08:23
notwistGwennifer: believe it or not but most of us probably don't know what you're talking about. Ask an actual question08:23
dr_willisGwennifer:  i recall there being a xrandr ubuntu wiki page that detailed forceing specific resolutions08:23
notwistGwennifer: sorry, just saw your question08:23
GwenniferUbuntu won't let pick my native resolution, so I'll need to force it08:23
notwistGwennifer: are you using proprietary drivers for your graphic card?08:23
GwenniferNo, it's an Intel integrated08:23
stobixI simply don't get this behaviour: when my battery goes down to about 10%, if I am watching youtube videos, X gets totally mangled up, and I end up with a black screen with some kernel-info like text and a frozen mouse pointer. Until I replug my power chord, and I end up with a login screen. Having logged in, I can see that the programs I was using is still running, eventhough they have no X to connect to. What on earth is going on here?08:24
GwenniferSorry, I'm a bit loopy. I've taken some really strong cold pills in the last few hours x_o;08:24
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notwistGwennifer: have you tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194365208:24
notwistGwennifer: the provided URL talks about updating the intel drivers from a custom repository08:25
stobix("is still running" as in "I can pgrep them, but they are not to be found anywhere. I only seem to have one X running...)08:26
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GwenniferSo I run all the commands that NikTh suggests?08:27
dr_willisbbl.08:28
GwenniferNotwist: add-apt isn't a recognized command, wut do :x08:29
Shahin-au menr apt-get ?08:30
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whitmanGwennifer, it should be 'add-apt-repository'08:30
GwenniferOh, okay.08:31
notwistGwennifer: yeah sorry, it's wrong in the forum post, its sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates08:32
notwistone command08:32
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HackbatTo start things off, I'm a long time user of ubuntu, since 7.04 or so but I've run into a problem I have no idea how to fix08:40
meiwesIs there a portable jre that works on ubuntu08:40
HackbatI'm trying to install it on a new system and I can NOT get it to boot.08:41
HackbatI've tried every combonation of boot order and bootloader location and it just goes straight to windows08:42
notwistHackbat: are you booting from USB?08:42
Hackbatno08:42
notwistHackbat: ...so what are you booting from? You need to supply more information if anyone's going to be able to help you08:42
HackbatI isntall via a CD on to a 100gb partition08:43
HackbatI mean I can get the CD to boot08:43
notwistHackbat: ok, and your CD-ROM reader is recognized in the BIOS?08:43
HackbatYou're missing the details of my post08:43
HackbatI've got it installed08:43
notwistHackbat: ok, so you mean you can boot from the CD; you actually installed Ubuntu onto a partition but it's not showing up after that08:44
Hackbatyes08:44
notwistHackbat: have you tried installing GRUB manually from the Ubuntu CD?08:44
HackbatNo08:44
notwistHackbat: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html08:44
notwistHackbat: the point is that you can install GRUB (boot manager) onto whatever disk you like, it will then auto detect Windows _and_ Ubuntu08:45
notwistHackbat: however, grub SHOULD be installed on your Ubuntu disk.08:45
GwenniferOoh, that reminds me. Is there a way to get GRUB to default into loading W7 instead of Ubuntu?08:45
notwistHackbat: is Windows installed on a separate physical disk from Ubuntu, or just on a different partition (same disk)?08:45
GwenniferUhm, I'll wait .-.08:45
notwistGwennifer: its simple, just check the grub config files, you can define defaults there08:45
HackbatSame disk08:45
notwistHackbat: then you need to install GRUB on that disk08:46
kshakirhi krnlklink08:46
notwistHackbat: GRUB will replace the windows bootloader, but GRUB is better because it will recognize both Ubuntu and Windows and let you choose08:46
kshakirhi xephexx__08:46
HackbatI told it to install the bootloader there08:46
HackbatI know all this08:46
HackbatI'm just wondering why it's not doing it08:46
notwistHackbat: well, if Windows is booting then GRUB isn't starting, so thats your issue. Question is why08:46
notwistHackbat: I'm guessing running only Ubuntu isn't an option08:47
notwistHackbat: regardless I think you need to try manually forcing the GRUB installation, try checking out this article: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/08:47
notwistHackbat: I know thats not your exact problem but process should be the same08:47
HackbatThat's what I'm about to do08:48
GwenniferHow do I configure GRUB while I wait for dist-upgrade to finish? :x08:48
notwistHackbat: if you enter GRUB and run the commands correctly Windows shouldn't be able to boot automatically because the Windows bootloader should be overwritten. If it still does, it's obviously not overwritten.08:48
notwistGwennifer: you should probably wait, otherwise just open a new terminal window08:48
GwenniferOkay.08:49
notwistHackbat: the article i linked suggests that on some computers, Windows actually overwrites MBR without you asking it to, might be something related to that as well, its hard to say08:50
xephexx___I tried ubuntu 12.10 but for some reason it ran a lot warmer than ubuntu 12.04...with ubuntu 12.10 my computer idled at about 45 degrees celcius and with ubuntu 12.04 it idles at about 31 degrees celcius...does anybody know why08:50
notwistxephexx___: if you're running Unity that might be it, it's a bit graphically intense08:50
notwistxephexx___: also might be related to your fans, if they sound more silent08:50
notwistxephexx___: 45 degrees celsius is still way below anything you need to be worried about08:51
xephexx___I was using unity with both 12.04 and 12.1008:51
notwistxephexx___: well if you don't know what your fan speeds are at now and what they were before its hard to compare. Maybe your fans were going slightly faster before and the policy has been changed08:51
Hackbatso the live CD is saying grub doesn't exist08:52
sbaughHow would I get past the first-start ubuntu configuration window with only the command line? I can't use X for the first-start config, but X/GUI after that is fine.08:52
notwistHackbat: you might be interested in http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ as well08:52
xephexx___ooohhh I think I see...thanks08:52
notwistxephexx___: temp is still fine so don't worry :)08:53
kjosepherror: no such partition. grub resque>08:53
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sbaughWhat do I need to do to mark the system as "set up" sufficiently? (I've already made an account)08:53
xephexx___thanks notwist08:53
notwistkjoseph: huh?08:53
kjosephhi every one08:53
GwenniferOkay, I finished the dist-upgrade command.08:53
kjosephhi notwist08:54
kjosephnotwist: i really and humbly request for your assistance, i have windows 7 and ubuntu installed on my hp g7 notebook, while using windows i downloaded a partition manage rsoftware, while deleting partitions i deleted the boot partition by mistake, when i switch on now having shut down i get:08:54
notwistkjoseph: sounds like you have a similar issue to Hackbat, you probably need to install GRUB, not rescue it (if you deleted the partition).08:55
Jordan_Ukjoseph: Did you have a separate /boot/ partition or did you delete the partition containing all of Ubuntu?08:55
notwistkjoseph: if the boot partition is _gone_ you need to create it first08:55
kvothetechkjoseph: if you had a sepearet boot partition just remake it reinstall your boot loader and (syslinux grub lilo etc) kernel and initramfs...08:56
kvothetechand you'll be fine08:56
notwistkvothetech: lilo? really? :D08:57
Jordan_UHackbat: Can you boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces?08:57
Jordan_U!bootinfo | Hackbat08:57
ubottuHackbat: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).08:57
kvothetechnotwist: lol i didn't say i'd use it...i use syslinux...but it's an option.08:57
notwistkvothetech: so is Windows 98 I guess ;)08:57
notwistkvothetech: is your nickname from the books about Kvothe by the way?08:58
kvothetechyes :)08:58
kjosephnotwist: kvothetech: how should i create the partition, what about grub, i had just joined ubuntu and am not familiar with this08:58
notwistgreat books08:58
kvothetechkingkiller by patrick rothfuss08:58
skp1ot08:58
notwistkjoseph: could you try doing the boot info script thing first08:58
notwistkjoseph: one thing at a time :)08:59
sbaughDoes anyone know even the name of the process that does the ubuntu graphical first-start setup?08:59
notwistsbaugh: should be easy to find out with htop08:59
sbaughI need to skip past it without having access to a GUI08:59
notwistsbaugh: when it's running, switch to terminal and run htop, then start looking :)08:59
sbaughnotwist: Heh, I don't even have htop09:00
notwistsbaugh: I think "top" should be installed by default09:00
kvothetechkjoseph: create te partition depends if you have gpt or mbr if you have gpt parted if you have mbr fdisk.09:01
Jordan_Ukjoseph: Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.09:01
Jordan_U!bootinfo | kjoseph09:01
ubottukjoseph: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).09:01
sbaughnotwist: So you have no idea of how to go from there to skipping the configuration?09:01
kvothetechkjoseph: then mkfs.<filesystem type> then install your kernel and bootloader etc09:01
notwistsbaugh: I don't09:01
notwistsbaugh: I mean, if you find out what process that is you could just kill it09:01
kvothetechkjoseph: er mount it in there first and add it back to your fstab etc09:01
notwistsbaugh: but I have no idea if it restarts automatically. Have you tried searching for ubuntu headless install or unattended installs? Should be plenty of info on it on the interwebs09:02
GwenniferOkay, so I finished the dist-upgrade command, where do I go from here to get my resolution?09:02
myherohow to hide join exit msgs in irssi ?09:02
notwistGwennifer: I believe the forum thread recommended a reboot09:02
notwistmyhero: google it. its in the irssi faq/manual09:02
GwenniferOkay, be right back09:02
notwistGwennifer: lets hope ;)09:03
kvothetechJordan_U: ? what's the bootscript do? or is that basically all of what i just said prescripted09:03
doomgiverdr_willis: hey, i instaled ubuntu in that 8 gb pen drive. here is the partition scheme :09:04
notwistdoomgiver: if you install with something like unetbootin you dont have to worry about partitions on the USB09:04
HackbunCould the fact I have UEFI bios screw me up?09:05
Jordan_Ukvothetech: It probes for various information about a system, mostly giving information about partitions, boot sectors, and boot files, and produces a nice readable report.09:05
doomgiver1 gb sdb1 fat32 | 300 mb sdb5 ext4 /boot | rest sdb6 (crypto) /09:05
notwistJordan_U kvothetech looks like an awesome script09:05
doomgivernotwist: well,  i have a very specific reason to partiition my usb drive09:05
notwistdoomgiver: allright, so whats your issue09:05
doomgiverhold on, let me link to the forums09:06
doomgivermy problem is, now i installed ubuntu, it does not boot off the usb drive09:06
Jordan_UHackbun: Yes, having UEFI firmware could cause this type of problem if Ubuntu installed via BIOS. Did you boot the 32 bit or 64 bit Ubuntu CD?09:06
Hackbun64 bit09:06
doomgiverhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209359109:06
doomgiverthis is what im trying to do09:07
notwistdoomgiver: have you marked the partition on the USB you want to be bootable as bootable?09:07
Jordan_UHackbun: Did your firmware give you any options when you booted from the CD?09:07
Hackbunno09:07
notwistdoomgiver: also, why do you want to boot of the usb if ubuntu is installed? do you want to run ubuntu live from the usb only?09:07
doomgivernotwist: er, um, in the install screen, i gave the bootsect location as sda509:07
HackbunBut I see it's booting it in uefi mode09:07
Hackbuncause the menu is different09:07
doomgiveri mean sdb5 or whatever, but it was sdx509:07
root_____exit09:08
notwistdoomgiver: what are you trying to achieve, an encrypted ubuntu live usb or what?09:08
doomgivernotwist: yeah, that. did you read the foum link i posrted?09:08
doomgiver* forum * posted09:08
Jordan_UHackbun: If the CD booted in UEFI mode when you installed, then it also should have configured Ubuntu to install grub-efi and otherwise be bootable via UEFI. Please run boot info script as I asked, and in addition please run "efibootmgr" and pastebin the output.09:08
notwistdoomgiver: I have no idea how to do what you specifically want to do, but creating an encrypted live ubuntu USB shouldnt be hard, im sure there are a million guides for it online09:09
notwistdoomgiver: you would probably save time by just having two separate usbs, one for ubuntu and one for windows09:09
doomgivernotwist: no, that wont do. it has to be this way. its for a project.09:09
doomgiveris there no way?09:10
doomgivercoz windows wont recognize the 2nd partition, only the first.09:10
notwistdoomgiver: well, the red part i would recommend a truecrypt container, which would require truecrypt to be installed in windows09:10
xephexx___I don't know how many people know this but you can give people the middle finger in facebook...the code is [[MIDFING]]...and presto you get the middle finger...09:10
Jordan_U!ot | xephexx___09:10
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notwistdoomgiver: for the blue part, i would recommend following a guide for creating an ubuntu live encrypted usb and just making the partitions smaller, so you can use 50 % for an NTFS partition -- the NTFS partition should be at the END of the USB, not the start as in your picture09:11
xephexx___okay09:11
doomgiverhmm, does the truecrypt thingy have to be installed in every computer i use? or cant i just run a program/script to unlock the partitiion?09:11
stonestoneHello! I've got quite the general question. We've got a client that's supposed to get the source for a project me and my colleagues have made. Problem is that the installation process is quiet obnoxious and I want to automate this for them when they get it. Any ideas how to do this? Bash might be able to do it, just that I want it to be good. It should git pull from a remote branch, install09:11
stonestonemultiple packages (node, mongo, AMP stack, some PHP addons) and then generate the configuration files based on input from the user :)09:11
notwiststonestone: bash script sounds good09:12
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FloodBot1kshakir: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:12
GwenniferI'm back!09:12
GwenniferI still can't set my resolution09:12
notwistGwennifer: :D09:12
Gwenniferto 1680x105009:12
stonestonenotwist isn't the risk for bricken the system quiet big using bash?09:12
notwiststonestone: why?09:12
notwistGwennifer: so you installed the repo and you updated the intel drivers, still nothing?09:13
Jordan_Udoomgiver: Ubiquity, Ubuntu's graphical installer, should support encrypted partitions now. So just install normally.09:13
GwenniferIunno if I updated my Intel drivers but I did everything on that link09:13
Hackbunnotwist, I found the problem, Windows is installed legacy. I can handle it from here09:13
notwistHackbun: what does legacy mean? Glad you found the problem :)09:13
krnlklinkanyone on ever install the xcp on top of ubuntu?09:13
doomgiverJordan_U: yeah, it does, thats what im using, however, i have a USB with multile partitions... thats creating problems09:13
notwistGwennifer: sorry, no idea what to do except google some more09:14
Jordan_Udoomgiver: What problems are you having with Ubiquity?09:14
doomgivernotwist: i cant push the ntfs at back.. else windows wint recognize it.09:14
stonestonenotwist missing dependencies etc, but I will try and make it :)09:14
notwistdoomgiver: encrypted partitions and /boot should be at the start of the usb and marked as bootable. start with that before anything else, then add NTFS afterwards09:14
doomgiverJordan_U: nothing, it instealls perfectly. howver, the system does not boot off the usb. it cannot find the bootloader09:14
notwiststonestone: bash scripting is identical to actually running commands in the prompt, i dont see what you mean. dependencies are always solved by apt09:14
doomgiverhmm.09:15
Hackbunnotwist, I have a hybrid setting on my bios that allows uefi stuff boot as uefi and legacybios boot as legacybios09:15
doomgiverwait, i think i got it.09:15
HackbunBut they can't be on the same harddrive09:15
Jordan_Unotwist: doomgiver: Order of partitions and boot flags are irrelevant to GNU/Linux.09:15
notwistJordan_U: allright09:15
myheroclear09:15
doomgiver1st would be boot, then ntfs, then the encrypted thingy09:15
doomgiveroh well, time to slog09:15
doomgiverbrb09:15
lng /part09:15
notwistdoomgiver well if Jordan_U is correct the /boot can be anywhere09:15
doomgiveractually,, my boot was in sdx509:16
Jordan_Udoomgiver: Did you have Ubiquity install grub's boot sector to the MBR? Is the machine you're booting from using BIOS or UEFI based firmware?09:16
doomgiverand i had set it via the bottom drop down menu to be sdx509:16
notwistdoomgiver: so what happens when you try to boot from the usb?09:16
notwistdoomgiver: any errors?09:16
doomgiverJordan_U: im guessing bios, (isnt uefi the one with fancy graphics and doodads?09:16
Jordan_Udoomgiver: That's the problem then. Grub's boot sector goes in the MBR, because among other things that's what your BIOS loads.09:17
doomgivernotwist: yeah. it says : remove all removable devices and press enter09:17
xephexx___so we are not allowed to talk about facebook on the IRC or what???09:17
Hackbunokay...so I can't install 64 bit ubuntu onto my system as long as windows exists09:17
doomgiverok, let me try again09:17
Jordan_Udoomgiver: Without grub in the MBR, when your BIOS loads the MBR of the USB drive grub won't be loaded :)09:17
johan_Hackbun i believe there is a fix for that09:17
doomgiverxephexx__: dude, go to a social channel or #defocus09:17
doomgiverJordan_U: gotcha, brb again09:17
xephexx___why09:18
xephexx___I like it here09:18
notwistxephexx___: its a support channel09:18
Jordan_UHackbun: Not at all. Please provide the requested information.09:18
thesadmafiosoHi. Is it normal for the alternate installers to take a long time to load?09:18
SpaceRocketUSB 3G modem K3770 is recognized but not able to connect09:18
doomgiverxephexx__: srs bizness is done here09:18
doomgiverno hanky panky playtime09:18
Hackbunjust hold on09:18
xephexx___oh I see can I get a channel that is for community chat09:18
notwistxephexx___: people expect questions and answers in this channel, so its common courtesy to not fill it with other stuff09:18
xephexx___ok09:19
thesadmafiosoI am trying to install 12.04.1 64 bit with the alternate installer and it's just sitting at a black screen with a blinking cursor for a long time.09:19
notwistxephexx___: #ubuntu-offtopic09:19
notwistxephexx___: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList09:19
thesadmafiosoCan't access a tty or anything like that . . . it just . . . sits.09:19
GwenniferNotTwist: the page I found suggested I just fix it in xorg.conf but I can't find that file09:19
notwistGwennifer: then you google "where is xorg.conf" ;)09:20
notwistthesadmafioso: what part of the installation are you at?09:20
somsipGwennifer: xorg.conf is not created by default since an earlier version of ubuntu09:20
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somsipGwennifer: it should live in /etc/X11 if you create one09:21
cnfdamn kwallet! >,<09:21
thesadmafiosonotwist: The alternate installer just goes to a black screen right after the BIOS detects the USB drive.09:22
almoxarifecnf: set kwallet to 'no password' , problem solved09:22
notwistthesadmafioso: by "alternate" do you mean the mini iso?09:22
cnfgrr >,<09:22
HackbunI'd probablt be better off just reinstalling windows and forcing UEFI mode on that09:22
cnfi don't even know what the hell it is doing atm09:22
thesadmafiosonotwist: Not sure what you mean by mini iso, it's the same size as the regular installer just the text based one.09:23
almoxarifethesadmafioso: using an old cd?09:23
notwistthesadmafioso: try putting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD on the USB with unetbootin, Ive had success with that when other USBs failed09:23
cnfgrr, and no bloody feedback!!!!09:23
netiulhow is the php.ini location _configured_ with a default apache2/php5 installation?09:23
notwistthesadmafioso: internet connection is required as it will fetch all packets09:23
thesadmafiosonotwist: It is an .iso file though. I am not getting any kind of init or anything from the bootloader at all.09:23
somsipnotwist: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini09:24
thesadmafiosonotwist: Nah, this is the newest distro, 12.04.109:24
cnfseems i can't open the damned thing09:24
somsipnetiul: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini09:24
notwistthesadmafioso that was almoxarife asking about the cd09:24
netiulsomsip, i know, but i ask _how_ :)09:24
thesadmafiosonotwist: yeah realized that lol09:24
thesadmafiosoThe other thing is that this is an AMD 64-bit system. :(09:24
somsipnetiul: what do you want - a copy of a virgin php.ini?09:24
notwistthesadmafioso: have you tried pressing F[something] at boot and selecting boot device manually to the USB so you can be 100% sure its booting from that?09:25
notwistthesadmafioso: if you are sure, then id recommend other usb stick/try the mini iso instead09:25
thesadmafiosoI expected problems setting up because of it being AMD but I'm having no luck.09:25
johan_Hackbun: I remember having problem install an ubuntu with 64-bit before too with an forced UEFI. Have you tried installing ubuntu from "Try Ubuntu without installing"?09:25
netiulsomsip, i'm running 2 instances of apache2, trying to competely seperate the config09:25
thesadmafiosonotwist: Ok, I will try that route next.09:25
netiulsomsip, but both take the same php.ini09:25
notwistthesadmafioso: if it hangs that early it has nothing to do with amd, something is wrong with the usb or the stuff on it09:25
Hackbunjohan_, It's not forced uefi09:26
thesadmafiosojohan_: Yes, tried that first. It crashed trying to run the slideshow, so I apt-get remove ubiquity-slideshow, it almost finished installing, then crashed right toward the end when trying to install the language packs.09:26
notwistnetiul: maybe you should create a virtual environment09:26
somsipnetiul: you want to be able to use different php.ini for each instance of apache2?09:26
netiulsomsip, yep09:26
cnfwtf, i can't even create a new wallet???09:26
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netiulnotwist, not an option :)09:26
HackbunThis is not worth my time, I'm going with my plan. Windows install here I come.09:27
notwistnetiul: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RunningMultipleApacheInstances09:27
thesadmafiosonotwist: ALso, I am sure that it's booting in the right priority, changed the boot settings in BIOS.09:28
thesadmafiosoThanks all for your help, I'm going to take another crack at this.09:28
notwistthesadmafioso: well then im pretty sure something is wonky with the usb09:28
notwistthesadmafioso: if youre not using unetbootin i recommend that09:28
xephexx___does anybody know of a quicker way to get root priviledges in nautilus besides sudo nautilus09:28
almoxarifethesadmafioso: specifically, what is the name of the iso file you are using?09:28
AnAntHello, is there a simple video editing software on Ubuntu  ? I tried pitivi, but can't understand it09:28
notwistxephexx___: create a shortcut to that command on the desktop09:28
notwistAnAnt: define "simple"09:28
AnAntsimple to use09:29
xephexx___ok I'll try09:29
thesadmafiosonotwist: I am using unetbootin, have had much success with it before. I'm installing this for a friend.09:29
cnfok, i broke kde09:29
cnfworthless09:29
notwistAnAnt: Handbrake is great for encoding and "cropping" (only encoding a certain part of a video) and also resizing09:29
almoxarifecnf: sounds like operator error, kde runs flawless here09:29
notwistthesadmafioso: well, hopefully the mini iso will work better, as i said ive had success with it when "normal" isos wouldnt boot for no reason. Also you could try linux mint, same experience there09:30
cnfalmoxarife: yes, thank you for that worthless bit of information09:30
notwistcnf: your information isnt exactly useful either09:30
thesadmafiosoalmoxarife: The iso is ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso09:30
notwistcnf: you're just whining09:30
cnfnotwist: it's not telling me anything, either09:30
almoxarifecnf: you are welcome, you need to start with something simple, try puppy-linux09:30
somsipnetiul: another approach is to use php_value in the virtual hosts file, but I guess it depends how many changes you want to make http://serverfault.com/questions/34078/how-do-i-set-up-per-site-php-ini-files-on-a-lamp-server-using-namevirtualhosts09:30
cnfit won't accept my password, and not giving me feedback09:31
notwistcnf: try a terminal09:31
thesadmafiosonotwist: Mint is definitely an option, this is a windows user experiencing linux for the first time though and the support with Ubuntu/Canonical would be advantageous.09:31
cnfnotwist: yes, thank you, i did09:31
AnAntnotwist: I don't understand the "cropping", I need to cut some pieces from the vid, or mute some parts09:31
notwistthesadmafioso: linux mint is based on Ubuntu fyi09:31
thesadmafiosonotwist: Yep, I know :)09:31
notwistAnAnt: ok, well then you need a real editor. Sorry, dunno09:31
notwistthesadmafioso: I usually prefer Windows if the user is comfortable with Windows before, it's more similar09:32
notwistum09:32
almoxarifecnf: a kwallet password is not necessarily the user pass,  kwallet was set with a password, that is the one it expects09:32
notwistlinux mint09:32
RomeoAvaPlease were I  can paste a photo with my Software Sources09:32
thesadmafiosonotwist: You mean mint?09:32
cnfalmoxarife: yes, i know this09:32
notwistthesadmafioso: yeah09:32
AnAntok, thanks09:32
cnfalmoxarife: i am telling you it is not accepting this password09:32
thesadmafiosonotwist: Hmm, definitely will keep that in mind as an option.09:32
netiulsomsip, that could work i guess, but nicer would be to config the instance's default php.ini loc09:32
RomeoAvabecause I don't know what to chose from it09:32
netiulsomsip, thanks for the link though09:32
notwistthesadmafioso: well, try mini iso and then mint :)09:33
notwistthesadmafioso: the lighter versions of mint (LXCE?) are great for old comps as well09:33
notwistthesadmafioso: LXDE*09:33
cnfit's not telling wrong pass, it's not telling me anything09:33
cnfit's just not unlocking09:33
thesadmafiosonotwist: Ha, this guy has a Samsung AMD 64bit with 4GB RAM so he should be good.09:33
somsipnetiul: this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9269083/set-path-to-php-ini09:34
notwistthesadmafioso: maybe he wants to be 1337 and avoid bloat ;)09:34
cnfi can't even make a NEW wallet09:34
GwenniferNotTwist: Okay, maybe I just don't have xorg.conf?09:34
notwistGwennifer: if you have a graphical interface you should have it09:34
almoxarifecnf: but as kde is extremely user friendly it allows for configing kwallet with some other password, most people run kwallet 'passwordless' since it cant be retrived without the initial user login or sudo/kdesu09:34
notwistcnf: run it from a terminal, youll get error messages then probably. Try running it as root also from terminal09:35
dazzelhaving trouble to setup the correct routing for linux home made wireless vpn router, everything works fine, clients can connect and get ip and internet adress and instant vpn connection but the lighttpd server running on the wifi router can no longer be accessed09:35
cnfnotwist: i _have_ run it from terminal, as i have said09:35
notwistdazzel: i can tell you right now you _need_ to draw that up for anyone to understand09:35
cnfas i said09:35
notwistcnf: and as root you still cant create a new wallet?09:36
cnfalmoxarife:  and again, not helpful, is it?09:36
almoxarifenotwist: xorg.conf does not exist all setups09:36
justdaveI just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and my vnc server no longer works  I just get the default desktop background with no dock or menu bar or anything.09:36
dazzelnotwist, i know..its complicated..09:36
justdavebeen googling and browsing forums for a couple hours with no solutions found that actually work09:36
notwistjustdave: try teamviewer? :)09:36
thesadmafiosonotwist: Think it's ok to use the minimal .iso from a USB drive though?09:36
notwistthesadmafioso: why not?09:36
cnfnotwist: as root i can create a new wallet for root09:37
thesadmafiosonotwist: :) Agreed.09:37
almoxarifecnf: of course it is helpful, kwallet left without password is the way most kde users run kde09:37
notwistthesadmafioso: whole point of the minimal iso is "as little as possible from the start, fetch it all from the internet"09:37
myherojjd09:38
cnfalmoxarife: how is it helpful how other people might have done things?09:38
thesadmafiosonotwist: Right. Will I be able to launch a net browser though? I can't access the net where I'm at without loggin in via a web page.09:38
dazzelnotwist, i used a proxy on the wifi router before, privoxy, with tor and johndo that worked superb. Now with the tunneling setup by openvpn all loca traffic, will reroute trough the tun0 and then drops..09:38
almoxarifecnf: kwallet for root?09:38
notwistthesadmafioso: no, it09:38
notwistthesadmafioso: no, its not a live usb09:38
notwistthesadmafioso: but neither is the text based installer09:39
cnfalmoxarife: stop trolling09:39
notwistthesadmafioso: technically you might be able to switch to termina, run "sudo apt-get install lu09:39
notwistF***09:39
notwistsudo apt-get install lynx09:39
thesadmafiosonotwist: Dang. Well will it give me enough to boot into a bare bones Ubuntu though?09:39
notwistand then run lynx to validate09:39
notwistthesadmafioso: have you ever used lynx? its a text based browser, its pretty simple09:39
thesadmafiosonotwist: Ha, yeah I guess I could try it. Not too well versed with lynx though.09:39
notwistthesadmafioso: well its just arrows to navigate, fill out forms, enter to submit09:40
thesadmafiosonotwist: I've used it to grab source from pages, --dump and stuff like that.09:40
almoxarifecnf: i am not trolling my friend, you are not understanding kde and insuring the rest of us enjoy your blow by blow of what you are doing09:40
notwistthesadmafioso: if you need to fill out a form with user/pass and submit you can do that easily from lynx09:40
notwistthesadmafioso: without any fancy graphical interface ;)09:40
GwenniferNotwist: I'm pretty sure I don't have a xorg.conf. Can I make one?09:40
cnfalmoxarife: I'm not understanding kde? ha!09:41
thesadmafiosonotwist: Well, that is definitely another option. So I should be able to get into a tty and maybe get lynx. One good thing is that he has an Atheros wlan card and I know it works straight away.09:41
notwistthesadmafioso: you should, otherwise maybe mint is the way to go09:41
notwistGwennifer: you really should have it09:41
cnfalmoxarife: and you telling me what other people do really shows how much you know!09:41
thesadmafiosonotwist: Yeah, we just need to get this guy on Linux of some form so he can see the light.09:41
cnfso helpful09:41
dazzelnotwist, solved it..thnx anyway09:41
notwistGwennifer: if you run "ls /etc/" theres not an xorg there?09:41
cnfnotwist: so a reboot fixed it09:42
cnfnotwist: go figure...09:42
cnfalmost feels like i'm on windows09:42
somsipGwennifer: yes, you can create one if you need to. There are tools to do this if you have no desire to make one from scratch09:42
thesadmafiosonotwist: not to mention that I am going to try and eradicate Back Orifice from his Windows partition, which I'm fairly certain he's contracted from unsafe computer sex.09:42
GwenniferNotwist: I can't find it using the locate command after updatedb09:42
somsipGwennifer: /etc/X1109:42
thesadmafiosonotwist: You can tell these kiddies a thousand times . . .09:42
cnfi hate not knowing what the problem was09:42
Gwennifersomsip: It's not in etc/x1109:42
almoxarifenotwist: not true, i dont have xorg.conf, the newer distros use /etc/x11/xorg.conf.d09:42
notwistthesadmafioso: well mint/ubuntu will save you some time then ;)09:42
somsipGwennifer: capial X11, but if it's not there, it's not there. Quite normal on a recent version of Ubuntu09:43
Gwennifersomsip: Can you name a tool to make one, please?09:43
somsipGwennifer: what video card?09:43
GwenniferIntel...?09:44
cnfalmoxarife: and my wallet still has the password _I_ set09:44
cnfalmoxarife: not magically no password, because that's what other people do09:44
notwistcnf stop acting like an imbecile09:44
almoxarifecnf: do yourself a favor, run kwallet without password, or not, as you please09:45
Gwennifersomsip: intel!09:45
techousewill a script in /etc/rc.local also run at reboot?09:45
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justdavenotwist: is that a server? synaptic's not finding me anything with that name09:45
almoxarifetechouse: yes09:45
notwistcnf you're wasting other peoples time by simply looking for conflict, stop writing if you have nothing good to say09:45
techouseor do i have to copy it into /etc/rc0.d?09:45
somsipGwennifer: can you paste the output of lspci | grep VGA09:45
notwistjustdave: what name?09:46
justdaveyou said teamviewer09:46
techousealmoxarife: thanx!09:46
notwistjustdave: http://www.teamviewer.com/09:46
cnfnotwist: i'm wasting other peoples time, sure09:46
cnfbut whatever09:46
justdavenotwist: oh, that doesn't sound like the same thing at all09:47
Gwennifersomsip: wut's that pipe for? :x09:47
notwistjustdave: teamviewer supports running a server that you can connect to and control the screen, identical to VNC09:47
notwistjustdave: and its free for personal use09:47
* cnf remembers he's in irc09:47
justdavenotwist: does it run standalone without X?09:47
notwistjustdave: dont know enough about it to answer that, sorry09:47
justdaveit's a headless box, the last couple releases of Ubuntu, xorg won't start without a monitor attached09:47
somsipGwennifer: so you don't have to post a page of output when one line will give more details of what Intel chipset it uses09:47
justdaveso running a standalone vncserver was my only way to get a gui09:48
Gwennifer00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)09:48
somsipGwennifer: I can just give you the command, but there might be some quirks about your card which are worth checking first. What would you prefer?09:48
justdaveand now I don't even have that09:48
GwenniferSomsip: I'm fine with just forcing the resolution09:49
notwistjustdave: why do you need GUI to begin with if its headless?09:49
justdavenotwist: because it's a mythtv server and the admin tools for mythtv all require a gui09:49
notwistjustdave: maybe the admin tools can be run from another computer?09:50
justdaveyeah, they'll run over a forwarded X connection, it's just awkward09:50
notwistjustdave: dont know enough about the way mythtv works to give you any good answer, sorry09:50
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somsipGwennifer: well, this page will tell you how to create an xorg.conf but searching on that video card does give a few results of people having problems, so you might have to dig a bit more http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there09:51
justdaveI always hate getting "why would you bother doing that?" as an answer.  Been doing it for years and it always worked, and now it doesn't.  What other excuse do I need to want to have it working again? :)09:51
* joey8 applauds justdave09:52
kshakirhi kshakir09:52
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FloodBot1kshakir: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:52
RomeoAva<dr_willis> i'm in  sources.list.d and there is no double document09:52
justdavemaybe I can go back to x11vnc if there's some way to convince xorg to start without a monitor...09:53
justdavedummy display driver or something? :)09:53
justdavehmm, what do you know, there's an xserver-xorg-video-dummy package09:54
doomgiverhow do i make a gtk+ 3.o program start with ubuntu? like i login and it starts to work?09:54
somsipGwennifer: and and old one that refers to your video card http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=160266509:54
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RomeoAva<dr_willis> in my Software Sources / Other Software are some checked and some not.09:54
notwistjustdave: well, sometimes the reason it stops working is because you've used a very wonky solution for years, doesn't make it a good solution just because it worked for X amount of time ;)09:54
almoxarifejustdave: if its being used for mythtv then it must have a graphics driver09:54
stonestone... why does bash tell me that it expects then with this09:55
stonestoneif [ -z $1 ]; then09:55
stonestoneecho You need to provide a git user.name;09:55
stonestonefi09:55
FloodBot1stonestone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:55
justdavealmoxarife: yeah, it's just running tuners and doing encoding and stream serving09:55
Gwennifersomsip: wut do I do with that xorg.conf thing?09:55
almoxarifejustdave: i have the same basic setup, mine is xbmc, monitor being connected does not keep xorg from running09:56
MonkeyDuststonestone  better ask in #bash09:56
somsipsave it to /etc/X11/ but you have got the intel video driver installed haven't you?09:56
RomeoAva<dr_willis> I reboot the comp 3 times now for to goes in good display resolution but the comp does't open, it was purple color,09:56
almoxarifejustdave: i have the same basic setup, mine is xbmc, monitor(not)  being connected does not keep xorg from running09:56
justdavealmoxarife: some magic in xorg.conf?09:57
justdaveif I remove the xorg.conf and let it do its autodetect thing, it fails saying it can't determine the video setup09:57
Jordan_Ustonestone: If you want something ideal, then you should learn proper .deb packaging and setup a ppa. It's even possible with launchpad to have packages automatically built whenever a new commit is pushed to the repository.09:57
Jordan_Ustonestone: As for your bash question, I don't understand the question. Can you rephrase it?09:57
kshakirhi Jordan_U09:57
justdaveactually, that was on 12.04, I haven't actually tried that again yet since upgrading to 12.1009:58
kshakirhi justdave09:58
almoxarifejustdave: can you reset the 'server' then pastebin /var/log/syslog and Xorg.0.log ? lets see what is happening09:58
SpaceRocketdoes DeJavu backups hidden files in /home? like .ssh09:58
GwenniferI think I do09:58
hangdeadmanhow do i remove getdeb repositories from ubuntu 12.04?10:00
almoxarifehangdeadman: via 'synaptic' is the simple way10:00
hangdeadmanalmoxarife: where are they located in synaptic? I couldn't find them under repositories/other software10:01
somsipGwennifer: I believe it is xserver-xorg-video-intel but I'm not convinced. Try a 'dpkg --get-selections | grep intel'10:01
almoxarifehangdeadman: open the file /etc/apt/sources.list , is it shown?10:02
justdavehmmm, looks like it might actually be working now10:02
justdaveI appear to have an X server running on :0 with lightdm in it10:02
justdavetime to see if I can hook x11vnc into it10:02
stonestoneJordan_U i tested something as simple as http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1427231/10:02
stonestoneJordan_U outputs [: missing ]10:03
hangdeadmanalmoxarife: yes its there10:03
Gwennifersomsip: it is, uhm, can you tell me where I can find a gui or something similar to generate one?10:03
thesadmafiosonotwist: Trying an install of 10.04.1 LTS regular .iso and just killed the ubiquity-slideshow .  . . so far it's looking good!10:03
somsipGwennifer: To generate an xorg.conf?10:03
MonkeyDuststonestone  shoudnt there be a ; after the ] ?10:04
Jordan_Ustonestone: Always quote variables, "$1".10:04
almoxarifehangdeadman: odd that synaptic did not show it, anyway, either remark out the lines with the 'get-deb' or delete the lines, you need to edit the file with gksu -admin privs10:04
Gwennifersomsip: yus :U I found a webpage talking about one with pretty much an identical monitor: http://grenage.com/xorg.html10:04
stonestoneMonkeyDust not when newline (if I remember correctly) Jordan_U was a long time ago i did this :) thanks...10:04
HackbunWill I get any real benifits from 64 bit ubuntu?10:04
hangdeadmanalmoxarife: it says disabled on update to natty but i get an error message about them when i apt-get update10:05
stonestonestill the same errors tho10:05
almoxarifehangdeadman: what error?10:05
somsipGwennifer: and you want to be able to create a new file based on that in /etc/x11/ using a text editor? try 'gksudo gedit'10:06
hangdeadmanW: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/precise-getdeb/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net:http:10:06
hangdeadmanalmoxarife: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/precise-getdeb/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net:http:10:06
almoxarifehangdeadman: do you have 'pastebinit' installed?10:06
hangdeadmanalmoxarife: no should I?10:07
almoxarifehangdeadman: assume not, via terminal, sudo apt-get install pastebinit10:07
hangdeadmanalmoxarife: done10:08
Jordan_Uhangdeadman: Please pastebin your current script, how you are invoking it, and the complete output.10:08
almoxarifehangdeadman: via terminal, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit10:08
somsipGwennifer: need to sign off10:08
notwistthesadmafioso: why are you installing 10.04 :P10:09
Gwennifersomsip: No, I want something to generate the base file for me because I've taken a lot of cold medicines and I don't have the capability to write one up right now10:09
almoxarifehangdeadman: via terminal, 'sudo apt-get update | pastebinit'10:09
GwenniferOkay .-.10:09
almoxarifehangdeadman: the output should be a link, pls share it10:11
notwistwow, pastebinit is awesome10:11
hangdeadmanalmoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427243/10:11
almoxarifenotwist: :) wow10:11
* thesadmafioso had no idea about pastebinit until he just apt-cache show'ed it :P10:11
almoxarifenotwist: should look at 'inxi' then10:11
notwistalmoxarife: nice10:12
almoxarifehangdeadman: via terminal, 'pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list'10:13
RomeoAvaI have sources.list and sources.list.save in my apt. Is normal? To remove the last one?10:13
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Gwenniferokay, I'm just going to go to bed10:14
hangdeadmanalmoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427254/10:14
notwistRomeoAva: .save is probably a backup, its not being used, no use in deleting any of them10:14
RomeoAvain sources.list.save I found two that looks duplicates: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner10:16
RomeoAvadeb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner10:16
almoxarifehangdeadman: via terminal 'ls -R /etc/apt/ | pastebinit'10:17
hangdeadmanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1427261/10:17
hangdeadmanalmoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427261/10:18
notwistRomeoAva: so? what is your problem?10:18
notwistRomeoAva: also they are not duplicates, one starts with deb and the other with deb-src10:18
RomeoAvanotwist W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)10:19
RomeoAvaW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-i386_Packages)10:19
notwistRomeoAva: so comment one of them out and see if the warning message disappears. I dont think it will10:20
RomeoAvanotwist I dont understand what to do10:22
DrManhattanwhat the heck ever happened to puppy linux?10:22
almoxarifehangdeadman: i was expecting to see this 'archive.getdeb.net' in sources.list, not there or i am blind, or find it here, /etc/apt/sources.list.d, so again, i am blind or its not there either10:22
RomeoAvanotwist you sad that to let the save one?10:23
RomeoAvawere to go, what to look after?10:23
doomgiverin gtk+ 3.0, which widget is used for doing multiple field text entry?10:25
almoxarifehangdeadman: unless one of the lists shown in /etc/apt/sources.list.d has 'archive.getdeb.net' within it, and that i cant tell10:25
RomeoAvawhat to delete from sources.list?10:27
thesadmafiosoI just installed 10.04 LTS and it assigned a wireless card as "pan0" and is saying it's ethernet . . . how can I tell it that it's wireless??10:29
doomgiverJordan_U: it works!!!10:29
doomgivernotwist: it works!!! setting the device mbr as bootsect worked! tytyty!!10:30
doomgiverbrb10:31
RomeoAvaPlease, I wait some one to help me with this bug. I tray to use and promote Ubuntu but is not working yet. I expect a few years already.10:31
john__doomgiver: congrats. that effi thing is a bit tricky10:32
almoxarifeRomeoAva: run 'sudo apt-get update' in terminal again10:33
john__RomeoAva, What exactly is your problem?10:33
BullDoghello...i m reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto10:33
RomeoAvait assigned a wireless card as "pa10:33
RomeoAvasorry10:34
thesadmafiosoRomeoAva: I am having the same problem.10:34
RomeoAvaW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)10:34
RomeoAvaW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-i386_Packages)10:34
BullDogMaildir10:34
BullDognewsletter@smarth:~$ cd Maildir/new10:34
BullDog-su: cd: Maildir/new: Not a directory10:34
BullDogwhy i get this error when i check mailbox10:34
thesadmafiosoDon't know why it would assign the wireless card as "pan0"10:35
RomeoAvaI open the etc/apt/sources.list and I don't know what to do10:35
john__RomeoAva, Have youtried 0412 install?10:35
john__RomeoAva, It's the long term distribution10:35
RomeoAvais 12.0410:36
RomeoAvasorry10:36
RomeoAva12.1010:36
almoxarifeRomeoAva: please pastebin sources.list or install 'pastebinit'10:36
BullDoghello..im reading this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto and i get error when i want to check newsletter@smarth:~$ ls10:37
BullDogMaildir10:37
BullDognewsletter@smarth:~$ cd Maildir/new10:37
BullDog-su: cd: Maildir/new: Not a directory10:37
john__RomeoAva, I recomend the 0412 because it is long term. The other you would need to renew in 6 months10:37
BullDogand when i use netcat port 25 nothing happens10:37
john__Anyhow that would solve that duplicate problem10:37
john__and you can still upgrade f you want to10:38
RomeoAvajohn__ you right but for me doese't work the camera, the scanner and some others10:39
RomeoAvathe 12.10 runs wery good until a few days after a regular update10:39
john__It doesn't work for bluray10:39
never2farhello... is there any way to find from ssh ...last update time10:40
thesadmafiosoRomeoAva: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109982810:40
RomeoAva<almoxarife> I can't pastebin sources.list I need to print screen it10:41
RomeoAvahttp://pastebin.com/jMz6BBaa10:42
thesadmafiosoRomeoAva: use " cat /etc/apt/sources.list > sources.list " Then open that file in a text editor and paste to pastebin.10:42
RomeoAvawhen I click source.list the Software Sourse window is opening, not a Gedit10:45
BullDoghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1427290/10:45
BullDogpls help http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427290/10:45
RomeoAvain Gedit onli source.list.save is opening10:45
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BullDogsomeone can help me?10:46
arquebuswith what?10:47
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RomeoAvaI open it in a Gedit the source.list here http://pastebin.com/ufKcePFf10:48
BullDoghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1427290/10:49
chemmkljoin /sweden10:50
almoxarifeRomeoAva: the two do not match10:50
RomeoAvawhat to do?10:51
almoxarifeRomeoAva: did you install 'pastebinit'?10:51
RomeoAvayes10:51
almoxarifeRomeoAva: open a terminal, type the following txt:        pastebinit  /etc/apt/sources.list10:53
almoxarifeRomeoAva: share the link10:53
RomeoAvaok10:53
RomeoAvahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1427317/10:53
almoxarifeRomeoAva: do you have the same file open for editing?10:54
hangdeadmanalmoxarife: thanks anyways for the help10:54
RomeoAvayes10:55
almoxarifeRomeoAva: and you have made changes to the file?10:56
RomeoAvano10:56
RomeoAvai can close it without save it10:56
almoxarifeRomeoAva: via terminal, 'sudo apt-get update | pastebinit'10:57
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RomeoAvadone10:58
almoxarifeRomeoAva: the link?10:58
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RomeoAvathere is no link10:58
RomeoAvait's a long list10:59
almoxarifecopy paste the command line here10:59
almoxarifeRomeoAva: just the command line10:59
RomeoAva?10:59
RomeoAvahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1427321/11:00
ubuntu487hi - how do i make ubuntu use my dedicated gpu instead of my integrated?11:01
ubuntu487hi - how do i make ubuntu use my dedicated gpu instead of my integrated? http://pastebin.com/CgyHMGyU ubuntu says nvidia drivers are installed but not activated11:02
almoxarifeRomeoAva: via terminal, everything after here                                 sudo apt-get update | pastebinit                            <--- everything after the word 'here' and before the '<'11:02
almoxarifeubuntu487: try to bypass the integrated via bios11:03
mynameisthomusing tar to compress files thru CLI sith following syntax tar -czvf backup.tgz -C /var/www/sites/file . gimme backup.tgz. But when I open the file, it contain . (dot) folder that is contain the files. What if I just wanna have the files w/o the . folder?? Or how could I rename . -> files?11:05
AyrusHi, which editor in ubuntu open the function reference which click on the function, I mean, it should open the file where it is defined!11:05
RomeoAva?11:05
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ubuntu487almoxarife: yeah already looked, there is no such option11:06
almoxarifeRomeoAva: your last paste is not complete or did not error out, which is it?11:06
ubuntu487I have a laptop with hybrid gfx (nvidia optimus) but ubuntu is using the integrated instead of the dedicated (gtx 660m). i have nvidia drivers installed but they are not in use - http://pastebin.com/CgyHMGyU - what do ?11:06
RomeoAvaok11:07
ubuntu487already looked on the uh,, vgaswitcheroo thing, thats a no go11:07
RomeoAvathe same eror11:07
RomeoAvaW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)11:07
RomeoAvaW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-i386_Packages)11:07
RomeoAvaW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems11:07
RomeoAvahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1427321/11:07
never2farhello... is there any way to find from ssh ...last update time11:08
emxthere is a nice feature in the distribution i used before ubuntu. when you write the first part of a command and hit PAGE-UP the last command beginning with the typed one shows up. another hit on PAGE-UP shows the second last and so forth. how do i activate that feature?11:08
Larissa85hi.11:11
almoxarifeRomeoAva: see if this guide helps, http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/11:12
RomeoAvait is so bad?11:12
RomeoAva:)11:12
theangryamoebaI'm running 12.10 and I'm having an odd networking issue. Whenever my wifi drops I get a connection box asking for the password for my network and I need to click connect again. The password is in the password box every time this happens, and I have it set to automatically connect. I do no understand why I keep getting prompted. I must get this dialog box 20-30 times a day.11:13
Billwhy i get this error? i want to set Maildir11:13
Bill cd Maildir11:13
Bill-su: cd: Maildir: Not a directory11:13
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Fedothow to resolve this ? i want to set Maildir i set it but when i acces it i get11:14
Fedotroot@smarth:~# su - newsletter11:14
Fedotnewsletter@smarth:~$ cd Maildir11:14
Fedot-su: cd: Maildir: Not a directory11:14
Fedotnewsletter@smarth:~$ ls11:14
FedotMaildir11:14
FloodBot1Fedot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:15
llutzFedot: "Maildir: Not a directory" <-  "ls -l Maildir"11:15
jribemx: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spec/EnhancedBash perhaps (it seems like your /etc/inputrc should already contain those binds for history-search-backward and history-search-forward)11:15
RomeoAvaalmoxarife looks good but hou to do that" Close the Software Sources and try updating your source.list."11:15
Fedotls: cannot access -: No such file or directory11:15
Fedotls: cannot access l: No such file or directory11:15
Fedotdone done11:16
Fedot-rwxrwxrwx 1 newsletter newsletter 0 2012-12-12 12:04 Maildir11:16
myheroN11:16
jribFedot: it's a file, not a directory...11:16
llutzFedot: its ia file11:16
RomeoAvaalmoxarife the update of source.list11:16
llutzFedot: rm Maildir && mkdir Maildir11:16
Fedoti am here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto11:16
Fedoti did everything11:16
Fedotsu - fmaster11:17
Fedotcd Maildir/new11:17
Fedotls11:17
Fedotwas the insctructions11:17
jribFedot: stop pasting in the channel.11:17
Fedotsorry11:17
almoxarifeFedot: your ip has been identified as a mail spammer, imagine that!11:17
Fedoti send a mail to hotmail and yahoo11:17
Fedotfor test11:17
almoxarifeFedot: not enough servers up?11:17
Fedoti have just 1 server11:18
RomeoAvajust sudo apt-get update will solve the problem?11:18
almoxarifeRomeoAva: no!, did that already, did you look at the link? does your client (the gui version) look similar? do you have two entries like it shows on the link?11:19
Fedotalmoxarife, how you check the ip?11:19
jribemx: actually, on closer inspection I see that the lines I referred to in /etc/inputrc are commented by default.  So uncomment them to make them available to all users, or just add them to your own ~/.inputrc11:19
almoxarifeFedot: its public knowledge11:20
RomeoAvayes, looks the same11:21
almoxarifeRomeoAva: then follow the instructions shown on the link11:21
emxjrib, great, thanks a lot!11:22
RomeoAvaok11:22
RomeoAvabut how to update the list?11:23
almoxarifeRomeoAva: what list? have you corrected the issue via the recommendation shown on the link?11:23
RomeoAvain final he sad that: Now you can update your source.list without any error.11:24
RomeoAvaand i dont know hou to do it?11:24
almoxarifeRomeoAva: via terminal or gui? do you use 'synaptic'?11:24
myhero!register | myhero11:24
ubottumyhero, please see my private message11:24
RomeoAvaterminal11:25
almoxarifeRomeoAva: sudo apt-get update11:25
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RomeoAvayes, that is what I was thinking11:25
RomeoAvathank you very much11:25
RomeoAvaI need to go now11:25
myheroanyway of connecting to channels which require registered nicks ?11:25
almoxarifeRomeoAva: only if it worked11:25
MonkeyDustmyhero  register your nick11:25
myheroMonkeyDust: i don't want to...is there any other way ? registraton only increases digital footprint !11:26
MonkeyDustmyhero  you can ask the people at freenode to cloak your registred nick11:27
KSalemhey there I need help in command line any one here ?11:27
myheroMonkeyDust: then registration is no problem! how much time it usually takes ?11:27
almoxarifeso all these 'dup' sources.list problems are due to the client having two entries for the same repo11:28
KSalemI need to delete alot of files in one directory but without deleting any dir also be noted the the files are alooooot maybe more than 1K file11:28
almoxarifeKSalem: is there any pattern to the files?11:29
KSalemalmoxarife .mp311:29
almoxarifeKSalem: all of them? you want to go?11:29
KSalemalmoxarife yup11:30
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MonkeyDustmyhero  better ask in #freenode11:30
myheroMonkeyDust: lol u were joking :)11:30
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MonkeyDustmyhero  how so?11:31
almoxarifeKSalem: whats wrong with rm *.mp3?11:31
KSalemalmoxarife i tried the following command "find -l -name *mp3 | xargs rm" but it gave me error "rm: missing operand"11:31
myheroMonkeyDust: i doubt if cloaking is allowed !11:31
justdaveso x11vnc seems to be mostly working, except that mouse clicks are taking multiple minutes to get fed to the applications.  Seems to be something between the window manager and the apps though?  I can drag windows around on the screen in real time and it works, just clicking things inside the windows has insane delays...11:31
MonkeyDust!cloak > myhero11:32
ubottumyhero, please see my private message11:32
theangryamoebaWhy does something major break with each release of ubuntu?11:32
wdp_KSalem, find -name "*.mp3" -exec rm '{}' \;11:32
myheroMonkeyDust: is virtualizing win7 in ubuntu os a good idea ?11:32
theangryamoebaits obnoxious.11:32
wdp_KSalem, man find -> go to exec11:32
jribtheangryamoeba: do you have an actual support question?  An issue in particular that you are having an issue with?11:32
MonkeyDustmyhero   what do you mean by 'a good idea'?11:33
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myheroMonkeyDust: performance. win7 consumes lots of resources.11:34
almoxarifei have a dir with oodles of mp3's with file extension .mp3, i am in that dir, i execute rm *.mp3 , am i wrong in assuming every .mp3 goes to mp3 heaven?11:35
KSalemalmoxarife yea it suppose to work11:35
jribalmoxarife: you are not wrong assuming you have permission11:35
KSalemalmoxarife but in my dir about more than 1K file11:35
MonkeyDustmyhero  havent tried it, i'm no help11:35
almoxarifejrib: yes11:35
KSalemalmoxarife it can't handle it11:36
almoxarifeKSalem: so?11:36
jribKSalem: so what happened when you tried "rm *.mp3"?11:36
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KSalem-bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long11:36
KSalemalmoxarife -bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long11:36
jribKSalem: what ubuntu version is this/11:36
wdp_KSalem, tried the line i gave you?11:36
KSalemwdp_ am trying it right now loading11:37
jribKSalem: also, using find will delete recursively, make sure that's what you want11:37
myheroKSalem: it doesn't matters how much file you have in a single directory but the files should be having extension .mp311:37
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jatinhi11:38
wdp_KSalem, there's another way to do that, too. using while. i.e. while read -r; do rm "$REPLY"; done < <(find -type f -name "*.mp3")11:38
wdp_KSalem, or somethin like that. use "echo" first instead of rm, to see if it does what you want it to do.11:38
KSalemwdp_ ok , thanks guys am trying11:39
Jordan_Uwdp_: KSalem: Using read and a while loop makes very little sense when you have -exec with find, especially as find with -exec will handle any filename properly, where read will not.11:39
dr_willisxargsi belive is commonly used when the 'argument list is too long' also.11:39
dr_willisxargs  ;)11:39
wdp_Jordan_U, i remember that the while loop turned out to be faster.11:40
wdp_Jordan_U, in his/her case it shouldn't matter, though, right.11:40
younderin BASH or DASH?11:40
* wdp_ is only using bash11:40
almoxarifeso what is the limit to a rm *.foo?11:41
younderare you aware that #!/bin/sh gives DASH?11:42
dr_willisthe *.foo is expanded and can become longer  then the max legenth of a command line. but i forget what the limit is. ;)11:43
dr_willisI bet its somthing like 512, or 1024 characters11:43
jribdr_willis: MAX_ARG_PAGES in kernel.  But I thought there were some changes done to that recently...11:44
dr_willishttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/argument-list-too-long-error-solution/11:44
dr_willisgetconf ARG_MAX11:45
bhairavhello11:45
dr_willis209715211:45
wdp_209715211:45
wdp_:D11:45
dr_willis;P11:45
wdp_thats characters right? or arguments as in words?11:45
dr_willisthats rather long. ;) wonder if its in K or bytes.. or characters.. ;P11:45
wdp_well. let's try :>11:45
bhairavok, I am new here and I don't know the protocol so do I just start talking with no handshakes?11:46
dr_willislooking like its 'bytes'11:46
jribbhairav: yep, just ask11:46
invariantHow do I configure Thunderbird 17 in precise such that it can open urls by clicking on it?11:46
bhairavok.. great. I have a DellLatitude 820 and Ubuntu 12.04. There is a high pitched sound coming from within the chassis11:46
thesadmafiosonotwist: FYI I successfully installed 12.04.1 LTS on my friends' Samsung 64-bit AMD system by "apt-get removing" the ubiquity-slideshow and maintaining a constant wireless connection.11:47
DrGrovAh, much much much better. Now I finally see something in irssi :)11:47
miladhi all11:47
almoxarifeAll shell have / has a limit for the command line length. UNIX / Linux / BSD system has a limit on how many bytes can be used for the command line argument and environment variables.11:47
almoxarifebytes11:47
bhairavSo, jrib, any ideas how I can stop that?11:47
thesadmafiosoalmoxarife: What's the limit for bash? :P11:47
jribbhairav: not really.  Are you sure it's not the fan?11:47
almoxarifebhairav: HD bearings are tossing cookies?11:48
dr_willisthesadmafioso:  getconf ARG_MAX11:48
bhairavjrib: It's like a car horn turned way down in the background with a glue tape to keep it in place..11:48
dr_willis2097152 bytes it seems11:48
John_MaclainGood morning all11:48
thesadmafiosodr_willis: Ah, neat. Another trick to add to the Linux bag. ;)11:49
dr_willisthesadmafioso:  no idea why yu would need that trick . :) theres some neat examples on that page however11:49
John_MaclainI have a "general" query i'm hoping someone could help with. I'm in the process of playing with a linkstation NAS. I have root, and need to install php5-cli.11:49
bhairavjrib: I tried bluetooth radio,removing the usb devices, disappears when, there is a "bin" LED flickering ( a READ)?11:49
thesadmafiosodr_willis: You'll be happy to know I planned on geeking out and reading it then!11:50
wdp_dr_willis, for i in $(seq 1 2097152); do a="$a $i"; done   <- should fail, then, i guess.11:50
younderSet up snort and BASE yesterday11:50
jribit's not really a shell limit, it's at the kernel level11:50
younderrecomended if you have an old spar machine. Just buy another network card reintall ubuntu and get to work11:51
jribdr_willis: ah I found it! http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=b6a2fea39318e43fee84fa7b0b90d68bed92d2ba11:51
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younderYou need to set the network manager network pane network to share with other computers  . had a lot of trouble with that as the documentation is sadly lacking. NM rocks though!11:52
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bhairavalmoxarife: hi, i did not see your comment.. sorry..i am not even sure what you meant. but i don't think it has anything to with the hard disk but i guess i am not sure.. :)11:53
thesadmafiosoAww! So, I just finished an install of 12.04.1 LTS and it said everything was great. Now I reboot and get "error: no such partition. grub rescue>" and a blinking cursor11:53
wdp_KSalem, and? does it work?11:53
younderAlso NFS for RMI and privoxy11:53
youndersamba if for windows, NFS is for Unix networks11:54
John_Maclainanyone?11:55
almoxarifebhairav: that kind of whine is usually associated with 'bearings' that are nears deaths door, the next step i would expect would be for the bearing to freeze, question now is, which one is it11:55
younderJohn_Maclain, sudo apt-get install php511:56
younderJohn_Maclain, ctrl-alt-t to bring up terminal11:56
jribKSalem: so I'm curious what the output of "uname -r" is for you if you don't mind11:56
bhairavalmoxarife: is there a way to find out? i am not very keen on opening and poking around actually. this old geyser might just flatten and pretend to be dead for all i know.11:57
John_MaclainI dont think it's an ubunto installation. I;ve had to install IPKG11:57
younderThere is no php client. it is all server based so you also need apache 211:57
MonkeyDustJohn_Maclain  if it's not ubuntu, this may not be the right channel for you11:58
bhairavalmoxarife: this wasn't a problem actually with win711:58
John_MaclainMonkeyDust I know, i was hopeful :-)11:58
younderI use postgresql but the popular choice seems to be mysql11:58
younderinstall that as well11:58
almoxarifebhairav: ubuntu killed kenny?11:58
younderand libphp-mysql11:59
bhairavalmoxarife: semi-killed the pangolin11:59
younderdead simple really compared to doing it on a windws system anyhow11:59
thesadmafiosoUmm...how would I point to where the bootloader is housed from the grub rescue >   ???11:59
bhairavalmoxarife: thanks anyways. later.12:00
almoxarifebhairav: ok, does 'top' show unusually high cpu usage for some process?12:00
younderWhat happened to LAMP install?  anyoone know..?12:00
bhairavalmoxarife: there is no process runnning now..12:01
icerootyounder: what sould happened to lamp?12:01
jribyounder: nothing?12:01
almoxarifebhairav: ok12:01
youndericeroot, I don't find it as a install optin anymore12:01
almoxarife!lamp12:01
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.12:01
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icerootyounder: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server12:01
Guest88028hi, does anyone know how to install mate (window manager?)12:01
younderI KNOW what lamp is12:01
sammmyI have a weird ubuntu setup. I have gnome 3 and unity installed as two shells I can choose, but when I choose unity, I get parts of gnome 3 in the mix.12:02
jribyounder: the link explains how to install it.12:02
youndericeroot, you forgot libphp-mysql12:02
icerootyounder: no12:02
MonkeyDustsammmy  unity is a shell for gnome312:02
icerootyounder: that is a dependency from the 3 packages i named12:02
icerootyounder: and if not, just install additional stuff you want12:02
youndericeroot, also mysql-client is good12:02
sammmyMonkeyDust: I thought a shell was like a GUI?12:03
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icerootyounder: then feel free to install it12:03
larry_hi, does anyone know how to install mate (window manager?)12:03
younderLook I just set up servers on 2 machines just this week12:03
jribyounder: I'm not sure we know what your question actually is.  Can you ask it?12:03
thesadmafiosoHow can I tell grub rescue where the bootloader is?12:04
MonkeyDustsammmy  i guess you mean a desktop environment12:04
younderWhat happened to LAMP install?  anyone know..?12:04
icerootyounder: what sould happened to lamp?12:05
jribyounder: nothing happened to it.  See the link ubottu provided you with.12:05
icerootyounder: as i asked already12:05
icerootyounder: just install the packages you want i showed you an example for the common lamp setup12:05
younderIe it used to be an option that installed all of this. And it is not there anymore. So now I install the tools seperately.12:05
icerootyounder: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server12:05
younderduh12:05
jribyounder: you can install it with tasksel.  The link ubottu gave you explains this12:06
almoxarifeyounder: i am guessing the question is rhetorical12:06
younderaah. now that makes sense12:06
youndermore or less retorical as both my websites are working12:06
almoxarifeseems not12:06
jribyounder: you can also avoid tasksel and just use apt-get: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^12:06
BrixSathello how do i get my current setup monitor and generate a xorg.conf so i can adjust some things?12:07
DrGrovWhat MPlayer flavor is the correct for 12.04? I see SMPlayer, MPlayer and so forth. Does the GUI matter much when using Unity? Do I understand it right that the best option is to go with a GTK+ interface instead of a QT interface when using Unity?12:07
MonkeyDust!xorgconf | BrixSat start here12:07
ubottuBrixSat start here: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.12:07
younderjrib, my system doesn't play along with that one12:07
almoxarifeDrGrov: you dont want qt with unity12:07
jribyounder: I don't know what it means for a system to play along12:07
younderjrib, I'm using 0412 not 101212:08
jribyounder: now I'm even more confused12:08
BrixSatMonkeyDust:  is the file is depecrated what is the new  usage? (if learning better learn the new thing)12:08
younderjrib, It doesn' recognise sudo apt-get install lamp-server12:09
jribyounder: well that's not what I said for you to do :)  You forgot the caret12:09
icerootyounder: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue"12:09
MonkeyDustBrixSat  guess you find more information in the ubottu links, than what i could tell you12:09
DrGrovalmoxarife: Ah, now I do not see that is this your nickname. I am missing a letter or two :D So, no QT for Unity then. Good to have that sorted. It was probably that which made my 10.04 system sluggish from time to time when I had a bit of a mix between GTK+ and QT apps when using both GNOME and KDE.12:09
DrGrovBrb12:10
DrGrovBrb12:10
younderhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP12:10
younderlet's leave it at that12:10
sammmywhat's with these funky scrollbars, I never got it...12:10
icerootjrib: could you explain what foobar^ does?12:11
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almoxarifedr_willis: nothing wrong with a hybrid, if that is the intent, i do like some gnome apps, yet run KDE12:11
jribiceroot: it lets you install tasks (like through tasksel) but using apt-get .  I don't even know if it's documented somewhere12:11
youndertasksel if NOT recomended as it makes things difficulet if you choose to remove things12:11
almoxarifeDrGrov: nothing wrong with a hybrid, if that is the intent, i do like some gnome apps, yet run KDE12:11
icerootjrib: but the tasks are no common-metapackages i guess12:12
BrixSatok thks12:12
icerootyounder: could you just use "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server"?12:12
jribiceroot: right, they're not metapackages. You can see how they're difened in /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc12:12
icerootjrib: thank you12:12
DrGrovalmoxarife: This is probably then good since I might prefer a few KDE apps in favor of the Gnome equivalents.12:12
almoxarifeDrGrov: i dont know how well kde apps will look in gtk, i do the reverse, gtk in kde12:13
DrGrovalmoxarife: Okay, then I will probably just keep to GTK apps for Unity completely. You are not by any chance running irssi? :)12:14
younderloved mint but was miffed as package depependency's started to break. Eventually went back to standard ubuntu 0412 for stability12:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 412 in eric (Ubuntu) "Segmentation fault when launched" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41212:14
almoxarifeDrGrov: on kde? that would be a sin12:14
jribyounder: it's confusing to call it 0412 instead of "12.04" which is what everyone else uses12:15
DrGrovalmoxarife: Why is that? Irssi is pure love ;-) No, the reason I asked is that I am not finding any suitable theme that does not leave out a letter of your nickname and others as well LOL12:15
DrGrovFeels funny to write to someone when there is quite many long nicknamed persons around :D12:15
younderjrib sorry12:16
solancerhey guys12:16
solancerany c++ developers in the house ?12:16
younderme12:16
solancercool12:16
solancerhttps://launchpad.net/~ikarosdev/+archive/unity-revamped12:16
DrGrovalmoxarife: But nevermind, that was only a merely a minor thought I had :) Sorry for disturbing with such an unimportant matter.12:16
g0onsh1pYO!12:17
solancercan you hack unity https://launchpad.net/~ikarosdev/+archive/unity-revamped12:17
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enriqhi. I have 10.04 installed in split partitions  for "/", "/boot",  "/home" and "/opt". Now I have a spare partition where I want to install 12.04, can I install from my running 10.04?12:18
solanceryep you can12:18
solancerjus do a distribution upgrade12:18
dr_willisyou mean boot 10.04 and install 12.04 to that other partion?12:18
almoxarifeDrGrov: i cant imagine what the cli irc client acts like, i am too deep in kde to cli, i found cli-companion(a very nice gui) cause cli made me get the chills12:18
dr_williswhilw running 10.04?12:18
enriqsolancer, it does not work, there are some "extra" stuff12:19
enriqdr_willis, yep12:19
dr_willisenriq:  its doable.. but i bet it would be much faster to just boot a live-usb12:19
dr_willisits not going to be trivial ;P12:19
DrGrovalmoxarife: But now it seems to be good with this theme since I clearly see what you are writing with a complete nickname finally :)12:19
solancerenriq, you mean the PPA ?12:19
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DrGrovalmoxarife: Ah, you are knee deep in KDE haha :) What IRC client are you using? Konversation?12:20
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almoxarifeDrGrov: yes12:20
enriqsolancer, I have some low latency kernel and some other things that are beyond 10.0412:20
ikoniaDrGrov: how did you get on with your video ?12:20
DrGrovalmoxarife: I could almost predict that since that is probably one of the most common ones in KDE. Probably one of the only ones or?12:20
solancerenriq: oh ok12:20
DrGrovikonia: Hi there. Nice of you to ask. I managed to get on pretty well I have to admit. Now I am figuring out which MPlayer frontend to start using. I found that VLC is very good and fully functional but I miss MPlayer too much to keep using VLC.12:21
enriqdr_willis, how hard can it be, harder than going to buy a replacement for my burned out usb stick? :)12:21
almoxarifeDrGrov: there are some others, pidgin, telepathy i think, quassel, probably more12:21
youndersolancer, I am not joining that project just to fix you problems, no12:22
dr_willisenriq:  yes.. and it may not work properly. You dont hear much about 'debootstrap' these days12:22
DrGrovalmoxarife: Ah, Pidgin as well. I always just had Pidgin for IM of other kind. But I am sure Pidgin is very functional as well since multi-functional account system is really nice.12:22
almoxarifeDrGrov: Kmplayer is a nice front end12:22
solanceryounder: no no its not jus me we a have a whole bunch of users who want this PPA updated12:22
ikoniaDrGrov: but the performance was acceptable /12:22
ikoniaDrGrov: that was your main concern12:23
DrGrovalmoxarife: But that is QT then :/ Is SMplayer anything good or should I just take the regular MPlayer-gui package from the repos and some additional themes12:23
dr_willisim not even sure if the debootstrap method works any more enriq12:23
almoxarifeDrGrov: pidgin has alot of options,12:23
solanceryounder, including Andrew from webupd8.org12:23
almoxarifeDrGrov: gnome-mplayer?12:23
baanaan`onGuys, i got a question. All my users got a primary group.  when i create a file with one of the users all users in the primary group also write and read that file. But i created 2 directory's where users from the same subgroup can create files and read files but i want to exclude the primary group from those folders how can i do accomplish this ?12:24
DrGrovikonia: Yes, the performance was acceptable of course. I just did not research any further into VLC + VDPAU yet since it worked out well. And I am not too concerned now to find out either. But I will use MPlayer as a comparison to VLC to monitor the CPU usage just as a comparison.12:25
DrGrovalmoxarife: Ah yes, gnome-mplayer I had on 10.04. That was simple enough and not too much menus around. SMplayer was perhaps a bit of a mess with too much options which worked well but did not suit my needs.12:26
jribbaanaan`on: have you tried using Access Control Lists?12:26
dr_willisDrGrov:  i recall smplayer having a few neat features not in gnome-mplayer... but i cant remember what they were ;)12:26
antivirushaterWhat is recommended, partitioning the hard drive and installing Ubuntu on it or WUBI?12:27
dr_willisDrGrov:  I think it had a remember last position feature i was using a lot for some time12:27
dr_willisantivirushater:  run away from wubi whenever you can... dont even think about wubi... ;P12:27
baanaan`onjrib: not yet lemme see12:27
antivirushaterdr_willis: lol, ok.12:27
DrGrovdr_willis: Hi there :) No worries, I tend to forget as well quite many things. That is why I keep configuring 12.04 still of today where as most people would have done it already ages ago LOL12:27
jribbaanaan`on: you'll have to add the "acl" mount option to your partition.  Then see the man pages for setfacl and getfacl12:28
MonkeyDustantivirushater  wubi means 'will ultimatly be inefficient'12:28
youndersolancer, you can contact me on jpthing@online.no and I will look at it no promises.12:28
antivirushaterMonkeyDust: lol12:28
jribyounder: note this channel is publicly logged, it's probably not a great idea to put an e-mail address here12:28
younderrotfl my my feeling exactl12:28
thesadmafiosoWubi means "Completely useless"12:29
ironhalikHmm, I've got a problem. I'm trying to connect a third display, and can only make the third one be in cloning mode12:29
younderjrib too late12:29
solanceryounder, chill bro I'm jus asking thats all12:29
younderjrib yes I should probaly have done a private session12:29
baanaan`onjrib:  thanks for the help. <312:29
DrGrovdr_willis: Ah, now I know what you mean with the last position. It was enabled by default in SMplayer and I did not at all appreciate it at the time. I could perhaps just be less negative of course about features and such things. I am perhaps thinking too much about all kind of features that I get lost somehow LOL12:29
jribbaanaan`on: does it work?  I'm actually not sure how having groupA access and denying groupB access will work exactly12:30
younderstill in the flow of data will anyone ntice...12:30
solanceryounder, besides I need someone who can program on Unity library12:30
dr_willisDrGrov:  i often could nly watch a video like 10 min at a time.. ;)12:30
DrGrovikonia: Do you have any preferred choice of MPlayer?12:30
DrGrovdr_willis: Ah, you had that kind of problem. That is then really good as a feature to have the "last position" thingie.12:30
youndersolancer, I am making a language I call Formula for parallel programming12:30
youndersolancer, I am not one of the ubuntu developers per se12:31
jribyounder, solancer: let's try to keep the discussion related to support in #ubuntu.  Join us in #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussions12:31
solanceryounder, wow sorry I assumed you were jus another ubuntu geek...12:31
younderjrib fine12:32
dr_willisnight all.12:32
solancerjrib, bro its about Unity what part of Ubuntu is unity not a part of ?12:32
jribsolancer: this channel is for ubuntu *support*12:32
solancerjrib, ya so I need support for unity12:33
jribsolancer: what's your support question?12:33
solancerjrib, Unity is buggy and I need someone who can fix it12:33
frehello to everyone12:33
thesadmafiosoMy new install thinks the bootloader for the OS is on the USB stick, is that something I could fix easily with a package like "Boot Repair"?12:34
solancerjrib, Dodge windows feature12:34
freI want to be consulted12:34
freI am now desperate12:34
jribsolancer: that's not what this channel is for.  Feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic12:34
solancerjrib, I doubt you would be able to help me.. its a c++ thing12:34
frehow many times i tried to install Ubuntu on my PC12:34
frebut that seems unbelievably difficult12:34
frecould someone guide me through the process12:35
solancerjrib, ok wiseguy off to offtopic12:35
diverdudeHow do i get a commandline interface to pastebin? (pastebinit dows not work)12:35
notwistthesadmafioso: it's because it's actually on the usb stick, I had the exact same problem12:35
jribdiverdude: you should say in what way pastebinit does not work12:35
notwistthesadmafioso: what you need to do is 1) install again 2) this time, remove USB stick before writing GRUB 3) everybody happy12:36
frecould someone give me a link on instailling 12.10 alongside w812:36
notwistthesadmafioso: it will install GRUB on the USB stick if its still inside during setup sometimes. Its stupid but it happens12:36
jribfre: you should say what exactly happened when you tried to install (and how you tried).  Don't use the enter key as punctuation though, please12:36
thesadmafiosonotwist: Hmm, do you think I'm better of doing that or trying to use a package like Boot Repair?12:36
notwistthesadmafioso: installing GRUB manually works just as well ofcourse12:37
freSo i downed ultraiso to burn an image of u 12.10 on my memory-stick12:37
notwistthesadmafioso: so boot repair could work, i just reinstalled to be sure but if thats a hassle you should try repairing first12:37
thesadmafiosonotwist: Also, doesn't the GRUB get installed right at the end of installation? If I pull the USB stick out it won't just crash?12:37
Tm_Tis it normal that there's several aufs bind mounts after doing "do-release-upgrade" ?12:37
notwistthesadmafioso: you can pull the USB stick up as soon as the installation is on your screen, it runs in RAM12:37
Tm_TI assume no12:37
thesadmafiosonotwist: Have any resources handy about manually installing the grub?12:37
notwistthesadmafioso: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/05/reinstall-recover-grub-from-ubuntu-12-04-live-cd-usb/12:38
notwistthesadmafioso: its not hard, just annoying. try googling around12:38
freI used USB-HDD mode to burn it. So after I did that, I turned off the PC than turned it on thus starting BIOS, then i pressed f1, and after that chose the source USB-HDD, but then nothing happened and W8 started to load12:39
fresmall remark: I used f12 not f112:39
thesadmafiosonotwist: Off on another adventure. I am going to blame it on AMD just cause.12:40
notwistthesadmafioso: sounds good12:40
freI guess i should come up with something by myself. Could someone at least give me a reliable source from where i can know the steps needed to go to Ubuntu not having to delete W812:42
jribfre: well your issue is that you're not getting your computer to boot from the usb.  Maybe there is an issue with your download, maybe there is an issue with the way you created your usb, or maybe you are just not telling your computer how to boot from the usb properly12:43
ikoniaDrGrov: not really no12:43
MonkeyDustfre  start here http://www.intowindows.com/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu/12:44
ikoniaDrGrov: is there something wrong with the standard mplayer setup ?12:44
itguruhelp12:44
kluejayWhat happens if I dd a smaller harddrive to a larger one?12:49
itguruDamn you Amazon spyway software thingy12:49
ikoniaitguru: take it elsewhere12:50
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scaranikciao12:58
scaranik!list12:58
ubottuscaranik: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:58
thesadmafiosonotwist: Hey, I added the ppa where "Boot Loader" is, ran the regular "Boot Repair" option and it installed GRUB on the HDD, no sweat. The Windows 7 boots fine, Ubuntu boots fine, and we now have another convert to the cult of Linux.13:01
notwistthesadmafioso: frickin awsom13:02
notwistthesadmafioso: dont forget to make linux the default in GRUB ;)13:02
notwistthesadmafioso: pink background is nice too...13:02
thesadmafiosonotwist: How does one check if Linux is indeed the default in GRUB? It's first on the list when the menu comes up . . . is that what you mean? :)13:03
EaglemanWhy do i have a directory /run ?13:03
zludeHello! look the numbers in the front of log file: https://gist.github.com/4267564 for example: "354560644.370" is it the date in some encoding? can i convert it to normal date/clock? thanks! someone can help me?13:06
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notwistthesadmafioso: check the grub config file13:07
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notwistthesadmafioso: it will say "default=n"13:08
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EaglemanWhy do i have a directory /run ?13:09
Loifquit13:09
alazare619im looking for a way to display the local display on lets call this machine A (a unix base distro) on Machine B a windows based machine without using vnc13:10
alazare619vnc is terribly slow13:11
alazare619over the network13:11
Mavrikaladilas, I've found Nomachine NX to be much faster than VNC13:11
Mavriker, alazare61913:11
alazare619problem is it doesnt display the local display13:11
MavrikI'm not sure it works with Ubuntu's unity though :\13:11
alazare619only (side session)13:11
Mavrikah, you need to see the same display13:12
alazare619yea display 0.0 on machine A on machine b13:12
alazare619maachine b is a remote machine in my hosue thats a media server its hooked up to a tv with no keyboard and mosue and is used to  play movies13:12
alazare619ive used vnc to open vlc on it etc to play movies but vnc is soooo  laggy13:12
thesadmafiosonotwist: Is that just in /boot/grub ?13:13
alazare619even with noxdamage ncache selected13:13
alazare619is it possible to xdmcp to the current display on a machine?13:13
notwistthesadmafioso: no idea where it is, google :P13:13
thesadmafiosonotwist: Why google when one can "locate" ? :P13:13
thesadmafiosoALTHOUGH, with the new 'Buntu I guess locating IS becoming like Googling.13:14
thesadmafioso:(13:14
younderI use both google and locate13:14
younderAnd so should you13:14
thesadmafiosoI don't like the idea of having what I search for on my local machine being broadcast onto the 'net, especially since it's set that way by default.13:14
thesadmafiosoAlso, I avoid Google as much as possible and never use their search services directly out of principle.13:15
thesadmafiosoBut, I am getting off topic.13:15
anonymoushello i; french13:15
anonymousim13:15
younderthesadmafioso, in that case remove zeitgeist, woopsie13:15
MonkeyDustthesadmafioso  if you mean the amazon lens, it's controversial and being discussed online13:15
younderand something else13:15
thesadmafiosoMonkeyDust: Yes, have recently heard of the Amazon lens and that's what I was referring to.13:16
putrowengigood night13:16
notwistthesadmafioso: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#Configuration13:16
younderFrom what I have heard (haven't tried) removing zeitgeist can prove probemativ in unity. But if you intsall gnome shell you will be fine13:17
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younderlabeling canonical as the proverial snich is a problem13:18
putrowengihelp me13:18
notwist!ask | putrowengi13:19
ubottuputrowengi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:19
younderputrowengi, well try, calm down and tell us what you want13:19
putrowengii am using ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS Kernel 3.2.6. i have problem to install modem dlinks DWM-152( A3)13:20
jayarlookin for an ftp server alternative to vsftpd13:21
younderputrowengi, have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto13:22
thesadmafiosoyounder: I agree that labeling Canonical as this evil doing snitch right off the bat is not good. I think it's also short-sighted when looking at privacy concerns in a holistic sense. However, it is alarming and I am not sure I approve of the trend on the part of Canonical.13:22
thesadmafiosoCertainly it is worthy of debate and consideration from many different viewpoints.13:23
putrowengiYES , I have read it but dont solved yet13:23
younderthesadmafioso, I don't like it either13:23
putrowengiafter installing driver but modem cant detect simcard13:23
Eagleman!10.0413:24
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)13:24
* thesadmafioso is pondering donating money to Canonical when he upgrades to 12.04 and expressing his concerns in an email with it.13:24
younderreally, ubuntu ususally is great on hardware. That is one of the reasons I cose it. It works on nearly anything13:25
younderClearly it doesn't improve my spelling ;)13:25
geniusmax respecy13:25
genius!list13:25
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younderWho ordered that?13:26
wdp_somehow i don't get bonding working.13:26
wdp_ifconfig shows bond0 with an ip address, but cat /sys/class/net/bond0/bonding/slaves reports no slaves.13:27
younderbonding?13:27
younderwdp_, why are you not using the network manager?13:28
putrowengii try with wvdial but there is no modem was detect13:28
wdp_that's not a desktop.13:28
wdp_i'm using /etc/network/interfaces13:28
llutzwdp_: but you defined your slaves in /etc/network/interfaces? "slaves eth0 ethX"13:28
younderwdp_, true, you didn't spesify you system. Feel free to do so..'13:29
wdp_llutz, yes.13:29
wdp_llutz, tried with slaves eth0 eth1 and tried with iface eth2 inet manual13:29
wdp_        bond-master bond013:29
wdp_err. eth1, eth2 :)13:29
wdp_llutz, lemme nopaste the config, sec.13:30
thesadmafiosonotwist: thanks for your help today, I was educated and illuminated. Later!13:30
notwistthesadmafioso: glad to hear it, cheers13:30
wdp_llutz, http://pastie.org/private/7swvjp3wti4fqfdrtfdota <- also tried it with slaves eth1 eth2 in bond0 instead of bond-master bond0 and also with both.13:31
wdp_also tried with allow instead of auto.13:32
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younderwdp_ when I last dit that I on the server went into the edit connections, edit and the share with other computers. This only works for up to 50 compters however13:32
putrowengiis ubuntu support all modem??13:33
llutzwdp_: last time i configured it, i did it just like shown here and it worked http://wiki.debian.org/Bonding13:33
wdp_llutz, followed the same article :)13:33
wdp_over and over again.13:33
younderwdp_ The  last time I did that on a server I went into the edit connections, edit and the share with other computers. This only works for up to 50 computers however13:34
* wdp_ wonders what younder tries to tell me.13:34
llutzwdp_: sounds like internet-conenction-sharing or... whatever13:35
younderwdp_ well what I would like to do is point you to a web site13:35
notwistputrowengi: is it an internal modem or external?13:35
alazare619anyone have experience with a program called crossloop?13:35
younderwdp_ unfortunaly the webinfo is misleading13:35
wdp_llutz, what i did not try yet, is commenting eth1 and eth2 so that there is just bond0 within the interfaces file. let's see.13:36
younderwdp_  suffice it to say it CAN be DONE without ip ot ifconfig or netmasq13:36
llutzwdp thats what i did, no ethX stanzas in interfaces at all. i thought you did when you "also tried it with slaves eth1 eth2 in bond0 instead of bond-master"13:36
wdp_llutz, still doesn't work.13:37
wdp_plus, bond0 has no ip anymore :)13:37
younderwdp_  (I set up a network this week)13:38
kristian-aalborgI macroed!13:38
llutzwdp_: just to be sure, ifenslave is installed too?13:39
troulouliou_devhi i m using lxdm + lxde on an old box with ubuntu , on startup i have a blank screen , i need to manually standby / recover to get a screen13:39
wdp_yea. wondering about the -2.6 but yeah it is installed.13:39
wdp_llutz, if i type in: ifup bond0 it tells me "waiting for a slave to join bond0 (will timeout after 60s)" but, nothing happens.13:39
younderwdp_ aren't you version 3 yet?13:40
kgxhi. i've had a few problems with my ubuntu partion (currently v12.10 but might be from 12.04 or earlier). anyway, i've mounted the partiion using the live cd and i notice that /root is a file and /home/* is empty. anyone know why?13:40
putrowenginotwist: its external modem13:40
wdp_llutz, if there'd be at least some debug output or error message somewhere.. but there's nothing. everything fine.13:41
younderkgx: I use 60 GB / 20 GB /tmp 20 GB /var and 300 GB /usr/local and 640 GB /user/<name>13:41
putrowengithis is my modem http://www.dlink.com.my/products/?idproduct=473&idCategory=19913:42
younderkgx i prefer custom partioning as it protects against DOS attacks13:42
wdp_younder, wtf13:42
llutzwdp_: i've no idea where to increase verbosity nor where to screw to get it working. sounds all correct.13:43
simplexioyou get problems if your / dosent have room13:43
kgxyounder, /home/* was there before. i had disk issues, ran fsck few times but then it didn't boot. now looking at it through a live CD shows my entirely home directory as empty..which is scary :(13:43
younderwdp_, A problem we had when I worked at Opera. var dir overfilled as the logs exceeded capasity filling the entire disc and destroying the OS13:43
sunny_xiaobai5\c13:44
wdp_younder, how long did you work there? 1 week?13:44
younderA week downtime 100 000$ lost13:44
notwisthahahaha13:44
younderwdp_ I was a systems developer. anyhow PARTION YOUR DISK13:45
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putrowengihttp://www.dlink.com.my/products/?idproduct=473&idCategory=199 ubuntu 10.04 lucid 3.2.6 has support this modem???13:45
wdp_llutz, wondering if it might have to do with my renaming of the eth devices. Actually dmesg reports that eth0 = onboard nic1, eth1 = pcie nic, eth2 = onboard nic2. Udev named them "em0, eth1 and p260p1" so i created udev rules with the specific MAC, making the pcie card eth0, and the two onboard nics eth1 and eth2.13:46
jayari removed vsftpd now i can't reinstall it13:46
xeocsphishing site?13:46
notwistputrowengi: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=DWM-152+linux13:46
younderwdp_ You think I am joking just wait to it happens to uou13:47
younderwhatever13:47
MonkeyDustputrowengi  instead of struggling with 10.04, somehow try to get 12.04 or 12.10 first, it may solve a lot af technical issues13:47
younderyour funeral13:47
llutzwdp_: i can't imagine that those renaming matters, but maybe revert it for a test13:47
BluesKajHey all13:47
wdp_llutz, now eth0 is bridged (br0) and works fine (brctl show shows that everything's correct). eth1 and eth2 should be bonded (bond0) while i always get a bond0 interface - sys/../../ reports no slaves.13:47
wdp_Another interesting error i get is when using mii-tool. it reports input output error for eth0. but since eth0 is totally unrelated for the bonding stuff, i ignored that.13:48
wdp_its the pcie card, maybe mii-tool does not have support for it or something *shrugs*13:48
wdp_but well, that's the setup.13:48
benedicthi, what's the easisest way to sync data with a group of people over internet? dropbox is out, because of storage limit. the others use linux, mac and windows.13:49
putrowengimonkeydust: im not13:49
wdp_benedict, i'd go for git / github13:50
notwistbenedict: what kind of data13:50
wdp_benedict, if it's some project/programming.13:50
benedictwdp_: no programming13:50
putrowenginotwist: my fw was uptodate13:50
wdp_samba *cough* and ftp then.13:50
wdp_:>13:50
notwistbenedict: still waiting for an answer; what kind of data13:51
simplexiobenedict: if you have public ip address then rsync is easy13:51
benedictnotwist: lots of documents and "static" data, and some text files, which will be ofthen changed13:51
notwistbenedict: ok so nothing heavy?13:51
EaglemanWhy do i have a directory /run ?13:51
younderwdp_ on the server use the network amager. Plug in only the internet. Check that it works. Then rebooot. Then plug in the other connections. go in network manager icon. . select edit connections and then on network try 'share with other computers' comboy13:51
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wdp_younder, i really appreciate that you want to help. But, no, thanks.13:52
younderwdf_ I am trying to tell you how to do this13:52
benedictnotwist: it is. i have 1.2TB but i only need to share maybe 300MB of it13:52
notwistbenedict: Google Drive gives you 5 GB for free and you can edit text files in the browser simultaneously13:52
younderwdf_ But I acually set up a net this week. And you failed..13:52
benedictnotwist: i NEED the data to be available offline too13:53
notwistbenedict: that is a feature in google drive.13:53
notwistbenedict: if 5 GB is enough and you don't want to pay, Google Drive is your thing.13:53
oskar-Eagleman:  it is a default directory intended to replace /var/run13:53
ActionParsnipEagleman: it's not dissimilar to /var/run   which is a standardised folder13:53
Touhou11I'd advise against using Google Drive for privacy reasons13:53
benedictnotwist: what about selfhosted otpions?13:54
notwistHere we go13:54
notwistbenedict: well if you have a server available that can host all this there's plenty of options13:54
ActionParsnipEagleman: it stores information about the running system since last boot, e.g., currently logged-in users and running daemons13:54
Touhou11Use something like http://owncloud.org/ on your own server instead of Google Drive, that way you have control of your data13:54
benedictnotwist: i am thinking about going for a server13:54
notwistbenedict: if people are willing to use a program to connect/transfer files I'd recommend SFTP13:54
notwistbenedict: since you mentioned it will be over several operating systems its a good choice13:55
wdp_llutz, okay, i renamed the devices so that they match with those reported by dmesg. let's see.13:55
ActionParsnipTouhou11: google drive is convenient though, and the user will have to keep the PC on to have access to the data which may not be viable13:55
benedictTouhou11: oh, looks good - i'll check it out13:55
benedictnotwist: hm, so FTP13:55
younderbenedict, I recomend souceforge13:55
simplexiobenedict: like i said , rsync and it keep record what is changed and whats not13:55
notwistlets not have privacy debates -- google drive is great if people are willing to pay with their privacy instead of money, end of story13:55
notwistbenedict: SFTP is encrypted, FTP is not13:56
Touhou11ActionParsnip: One shouldn't be willing to sacrifice important data to an external company for the sake of convenience13:56
juniourhi13:56
benedictnotwist: ok, but when using SFTP, how can i stay in sync? e.g. uplaod the right files i changed13:56
notwistTouhou11: stop speaking of your personal opinion like it was fact13:56
younderI have a encrypted /home. I share what I shar on sourceforge. There is no conflict13:57
wdp_llutz, no change.13:57
ActionParsnipTouhou11: many do, it's not a bad thing to have data hosted externally, some companies (like the one I work for) host entire company infrastructures for compay convenience13:57
llutzwdp_: more than odd13:57
younderYou don't have to share everyting or nothing13:57
notwistbenedict: could you explain more in detail exactly what you want to be able to do13:57
Touhou11If you want files to stay synchronized rather than uploading specific folders, use rsync13:57
youndermy few bits13:57
hiemanshuso guys, I setup a Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity on a tablet, works nicely, but now when I connect a mouse it doesn't show the cursor so I have to aim in the dark, any way to get the cursor back?13:58
ActionParsnipTouhou11: we host LOTS of company data and they pay us to keep it secure and available13:58
benedictnotwist: ok, geve me a sec to write it down properly13:58
Touhou11ActionParsnip: I wouldn't trust you, I consider them foolish13:58
ActionParsnipTouhou11: Google are just doing the same. Try taking the tinfoil hat off and think about the situation13:58
wdp_llutz, for "testing" i connected them to a switch (the same) but that shouldn't cause the trouble i have, could it?13:59
ActionParsnipTouhou11: so you think Nvidia and Nintendo are foolish? You don't know what you are talking about13:59
younderTouhou11, All trust iis foolish. But hey were human. Mostly it works.13:59
Touhou11There's no "tinfoil" hat, Google use the convenience of their services to ensnare you into surrending valuable personal data. Seems to work on a lot of idiots13:59
llutzwdp_: afaik no, that shouldn't matter14:00
Touhou11ActionParsnip: What has Nvidia and Nintendo got to do with it?14:00
wdp_running out of ideas.14:00
Keyser\o14:00
younderTouhou11, You seem a bit paranoid14:00
Keysercan I get some infos about ubuntu?14:00
ActionParsnipTouhou11: they host all their HR data in our datacentres.....14:00
llutzwdp_: i just tried  a similar setup in a 12.10-vbox, no dice too, bond0 up but no slaves14:00
ActionParsnipTouhou11: in short, you are too paranoid for words. Its pretty hilarious14:01
wdp_llutz, yeah, 12.10 server here.14:01
Fedoti config postfix and i get this error 554 5.7.1 relay access denied every time and when i send to root@localhost14:01
MonkeyDustTouhou11  if the cloud weren't safe, enterprises wouldn't use it14:01
wdp_llutz, do you have a chance to test it in earlier ubuntu releases i vbox?14:01
wdp_s/i/in14:01
diverduderI have a raidarray: /dev/md1. However, this is only available in the system after i have done mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 /dev?[abcd]3.  When i restart the array is no longer available and i need to write this command again. How do i make it available after restart automatically?14:01
wdp_maybe i just ran into some release-bug :)14:01
notwistTouhou11 is a RMS fundamentalist, no point in even having a discussion14:01
Fedoti config postfix and i get this error 554 5.7.1 relay access denied every time and when i send to root@mydomain.com14:01
llutzwdp_: i'll have to setup a new vm for it14:01
devsoulexit14:02
wdp_or it's teeh kernel.14:02
Touhou11MonkeyDust: You place a lot of confidence that IT managers for companies are half-way competent when deciding they'll use the "cloud"14:02
Keysergimme a scream when it's my turn ::)14:02
benedictnotwist: may i pm you?14:03
Touhou11Not surprising people on here are quick to rubbish any privacy concerns of the "cloud", given the recent developments in Ubuntu with the Amazon searech14:03
Pici!ask | Keyser14:03
Touhou11*search14:03
ubottuKeyser: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:03
MonkeyDustTouhou11  take the discussion somewhere else, please14:03
wdp_Touhou11, ActionParsnip: btw. actually.. if my "important" data at google get's stolen or lost or something. google has the money to pay back. So actually it's a good choice to have data there, from a commercial point of view, isn't it? /me hides14:03
wdp_(sorry for ot :D)14:03
PiciCan we please move the cloud vs. paranoia conversation somewhere where its not blocking other support questions, like #ubuntu-offtopic14:03
Touhou11MonkeyDust: Please tell that to others too, not just the person you disagree with14:03
simplexiowdp_: free service dosent give you that quarantee14:03
notwistbenedict: id rather not, someone else is probably better suited to answer your question than i am14:04
ActionParsnipPici: already done and done14:04
PiciActionParsnip: thanks :)14:04
benedictnotwist: ok, then i'll keep the discussion here14:04
notwistbenedict: one problem with your setup is the fact that you have many different operating systems14:04
Keyserwell, I've been using windows on both of my computers for 8 years for now, and it's getting slower, and I'm looking for an alternative OS, which isn't as performance centric, yet has (about) all the functions as Win, especially gaming14:04
notwistbenedict: for that reason i still think google drive might be the best, but if security and integrity is very important you might have to make some sacrifices to set it up yourself14:04
KeyserWould Ubuntu, or derivates would be a good choice for me?14:05
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xeocskeyser: which game?14:05
wdp_llutz, there's also some ubuntu guide which has another syntax for setting up bonding. but actually none helps. wondering if anyone else has trouble with bonding in 12.10 server.14:05
* wdp_ will google for some bug report in a few. 14:05
Keyserpretty many, starting from WoW, to NFS, HoI2, or to be more precise, nearly everything :D14:05
Touhou11Keyser: I recommend Xubuntu, which I find has the best compromise between performance and usability. Should be good for gaming as Valve are releasing Steam for Linux quite soon14:06
cfhowlett!wine|Keyser:might be of interest to you for gaming.14:06
ubottuKeyser:might be of interest to you for gaming.: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu14:06
Touhou11Keyser: You can't expect all your Windows games to work perfectly even with WINE14:06
benedictnotwist: third party host sould be avoided - i am quite IT-affine and usually i do just mess with stuff till it works.  but in this case the priject is rather hughe, lot's  of people depend on it and i am not sure wich approach to choose. once the direction is set, i am read to go - may it be setting up an own server, runincg services and waht not14:06
BluesKajKeyser, if you want to keep using your windows games , but still have a fast stable OS then dual booting probly your best option14:06
cfhowlettKeyser: so far as which linux distro, lubuntu or xubuntu are both light weights resourcewise.14:06
ActionParsnipKeyser: if you are gaming, you may want to keep Windows. Some games run amazingly in Wine, some don't. The other stuff like web browsing, emailing etc will be identical14:06
notwistbenedict: if you're running your own server you are also responsible. what about backups? What about emergency situations?14:06
benedictnotwist: i want to avoid to invest a lot of time (and money) into running one way, only to notice that i chose the wrong approach14:06
deavDoes anyone know if any software mods are required for running Ubuntu 12.10 on an SSD, to ensure performance over the long term in a desktop role?14:07
KeyserI don't think dual booting would be an optimal option14:07
benedictnotwist: i am ready for that14:07
Keyserplease be advised that I've never used Linux systems before14:07
cfhowlettKeyser: consider virtualization, e.g virtualbox14:07
ActionParsnipKeyser: why not?14:07
mustafa_erasing a  directory any suggestion ?14:07
xeocskeyser: why not try to clean for a little bit, and upgrade hardware also do :) you could also try wine, btw i dont play games so i dont know if it willvhelp14:07
notwistbenedict: the only bad thing about google drive is that google can see your stuff. thats it. you get immense advantages besides that. but if you still want to set up something of your own, you need to look at the multi platform aspect first of all14:07
MonkeyDustmustafa_  basically: rf -r [folder]14:07
ActionParsnipKeyser: Windows for games, Ubuntu for the other stuff14:08
ActionParsnipKeyser: although, if you game a lot then you'll use Ubuntu seldomly, so a single boot may be the way14:08
KeyserI'm not in a state to upgrade my computer :)14:08
notwistbenedict: you need something that can be accessed in a smooth way from osx/win/linux, SFTP is okay but the question is if you can mount sftp/ssh seamlessly on all these systems, i know linux is no problem with sshfs and all14:08
benedictnotwist: yes. that is why I was considering owncloud or sparkleshare - but i think those two are prett much an over-kill of what i need14:08
ActionParsnipKeyser: you don't have to upgrade the computer....14:08
notwistbenedict: if you're going for a cloud solution why is owncloud or whatever better than google?14:08
xeocskeyser, so uninstall some software?14:08
notwistif anything its worse; google is huge and reputable14:09
benedictnotwist: because they are self hosted14:09
KeyserI hoped there would be a Linux distro which is used for gaming14:09
notwistbenedict: meaning what?14:09
benedictnotwist: my server, my data14:09
notwistbenedict: allright, well then its not really a cloud solution to begin with, its just co-location14:09
ActionParsnipKeyser: there is one with lots of games already installed. Otherwise they will be the same for Windows games14:09
benedictnotwist: co-location?14:09
xeocskeyser, then use ubuntu+wine14:10
notwistbenedict: co-location is paying a data center to place your server there14:10
xeocsperformance, i dont know14:10
llutzwdp_: at least it has to bee a ubuntu-issue, it works ootb inside my squeeze-vbox as shown in wiki.debian.org. sry that won't help you14:10
TeduardoAnyone use Intel's RSTe SCU with Ubuntu 12.10?14:10
KeyserI'm pretty minimalistic in terms of softwares, there isn't much which isn't essential14:10
notwistbenedict: anyway, if you want to set up your own server I recommend SFTP/SSH, it's encrypted in transfer and you can encrypt the disk on the server with ubuntu easily14:10
TeduardoIt installs the OS ok but then it won't boot14:10
MonkeyDustKeyser  http://gamedrift.org/Index.html14:10
ActionParsnipKeyser: using a lighter desktop will free up more resources for games14:10
notwistbenedict: question then is interaction towards the different operating systems and there i cant help14:10
Keyserwill Ubuntu+Wine work about the same as WinXP?14:10
llutzbe*14:10
Touhou11Keyser: No14:11
PiciKeyser: it depends.14:11
ActionParsnipKeyser: it may, depends on the app14:11
Pici!appdb | Keyser14:11
ubottuKeyser: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help14:11
xeocsmaybe14:11
benedictnotwist: ok, given ssh+ftp works for all OS. how do i take care of the syncing? or if there are file conflicts?14:11
KeyserActionParsnip: Yep, that's what I'm looking for14:11
ActionParsnipKeyser: there is no single answer when it comes to wine, some apps work better than Windows, some refuse to even install14:11
notwistbenedict: i dont know, only thing i can think of is an SFTP client like filezilla14:11
notwistbenedict: maybe you could have separate folders for all users to avoid conflicts14:12
Touhou11benedict: If you want syncing, use rsync instead of FTP14:12
KeyserWine is also free, right?14:12
ActionParsnipKeyser: there are native apps too, playdeb has some great games, there are also the humble bundles14:12
hiemanshuso guys, I setup a Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity on a tablet, works nicely, but now when I connect a mouse it doesn't show the cursor so I have to aim in the dark, any way to get the cursor back?14:12
notwistTouhou11 so how is benedict supposed to set up rsync for the Windows clients?14:12
ActionParsnipKeyser: yes, totally14:12
xeocsyep,keyser14:12
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benedictnotwist: afaik there is a rsync client for win14:12
Touhou11notwist: Write a Python script, I've setup rsync on Windows at work myself14:12
ActionParsnipKeyser: there is also Crossover office and Cedega to run Windows apps too, but are not free in any way14:12
Keyserthen I think I will try Ubuntu+Wine14:13
DrGrovActionParsnip: Ah, there you are. Thanks again for fixing the 1920x1080 xorg.conf display resolution issue I had. :)14:13
ActionParsnipDrGrov: all OK?14:13
Keyserdo I have to reformat the file systems on every hard drive?14:13
ActionParsnipKeyser: no, Ubuntu can read and write to NTFS14:13
Touhou11Keyser: No, you can choose how much space and which drives to allocate to Ubuntu14:13
benedictnotwist: Touhou11 what about using svn?14:13
xeocsoh right, crossover is for gamers to run games on linux14:13
notwistbenedict Touhou11 I'm still skeptical about rsync when it comes to several users editing the same stuff at once14:13
notwistseems more of a backup solution to me14:13
Keyserall of my current HDDs are formatted in NTFS14:13
xeocsbut crossover is commercial ware14:13
ActionParsnipxeocs: or Cedega :)14:13
Touhou11notwist: Yes. that might be problematic14:13
xeocsa.p.: thx;)14:14
Mingo_hey anybody here? I am a new linux user and I am having trouble connecting to the internet, I am suspecting that it is because I haven't installed chipset drivers, but I am un-sure anybody have a second?14:14
DrGrovikonia: No, there is nothing wrong with the standard MPlayer setup. I just thought to get a 2nd opinion or so which might be "better"(or how to say it) for 12.04.14:14
notwistbenedict my point about Google is that if you enter a document that is shared and someone is editing, you actually see in real time in the browser when the other person is editing, nothing is lost etc, its actually really good14:14
notwistafaik there's no floss variant of that14:14
Touhou11Mingo_: Congratulations, you're talking on the Internet at the moment so it must be working14:14
Keyserwhich also reminds my, what about drivers?14:14
Mingo_I am on another box buddy!14:14
notwistbenedict browser based also means complete compability over os14:15
xeocsdrivers??14:15
DrGrovActionParsnip: Yes, everything is perfect with the resolution itself. There is just a few things I still wonder about with the direct rendering.14:15
Mingo_It's curious because I am getting an IP addresss (on the linux box), but I cant ping out14:15
Touhou11Keyser: You need the proprietary drivers installed for your graphics card to get decent performance for any game14:15
notwistMingo_: what ip do you get14:15
benedictnotwist: it is not important to collaborate on files at the very same second14:15
KeyserI'm using a very old ATi card, which is not supported anymore (I'm using an old driver), will I need an another one for Ubuntu?14:15
Mingo_?lol I get a 10. IP14:15
notwistbenedict: well what if they do that accidentally14:15
notwistbenedict: and overwrite another persons work14:15
Mingo_which is what I ought to be getting (it's what I get on the box I am using right now.)14:16
benedictnotwist: it might be, that there are some version conflict, but in generall, i only have to maange dokuments that are usually edited by only one persopn14:16
benedictperson14:16
notwistMingo_: why is it what you ought to get? thats an internal ip14:16
xeocsubuntu seems to have wildcard support for graph cards14:16
benedictnotwist: ok, point take14:16
benedicttaken14:16
DrGrovActionParsnip: I had to test Extreme Tux Racer but apparently the 1920x1080 resolution in the game did not display properly, it was more like 1024x768 or similar. I could not either test with glxgears to see if the direct rendering was active since glxgears crashed on me. You have any ideas about how to confirm whether it is working or not as it should?14:16
ActionParsnipDrGrov: I'd make a backup of the file ;)14:16
notwistbenedict: no matter what solution you choose you _need_ to have version control, so maybe svn could help there14:16
Mingo_well our IT department pays for a range of 10. IPs14:16
Mingo_So when I see that my linux box has also recieved a 10. IP14:16
Mingo_it makes sense14:16
younder10 GB is nonsense14:17
notwistbenedict: again, google wins because the version control is right there in the browser accessible by everone14:17
ActionParsnipDrGrov: you may need extra options in the file14:17
notwistMingo_: you dont pay for 10-ips14:17
younderJust another way to get you to pay for ubuntu14:17
Mingo_well, yes we do.14:17
Mingo_we pay for a range of 192. IPs and 10. IPs14:17
Mingo_from our ISP14:17
notwistMingo_: http://compnetworking.about.com/od/routers/g/10_0_0_1_def.htm14:17
Touhou11notwist: Google wins when they have access to all your personal data14:17
Mingo_but that is beside the point14:17
Keyserhow large USB stick will I need to install it?14:17
notwistTouhou11 lol14:17
DrGrovActionParsnip: Yes, I did make a backup of xorg.conf since I really do not want this to happen again. For further use, I will upload it to Dropbox or send it by e-mail to myself so I always have it around, for the worst case scenarios.14:18
mustafa_removing a file inside the var/www directory under root privelige any suggestion ?14:18
xeocs800mib above keyser14:18
ActionParsnipMingo_: your ISP won't give you a 192 IP, its class C so is unroutable.14:18
notwistMingo_: allright, well if you know that the 10-ip is fine and it should work, ping not working is strange14:18
Keyserthanks14:18
Touhou11mustafa_: Use the terminal14:18
wdp_llutz, thats absolutely no problem. the question is, how i can fix that. Could you please pm me some information about that squeeze install? maybe the interfaces file, output of ifconfig, maybe the kernel-version (uname -a) such stuff?14:18
sabel21210Can anyone help me with a quick Hardware Comparison question? it's not entirely ubuntu related, although i will be putting ubuntu on the system.14:18
xeocsno problem14:18
mustafa_iam using it14:18
Keyserthen I think I will try it14:18
DrGrovActionParsnip: So you mean I might have to do some tweaking of xorg.conf in order to get games to display 1920x1080 properly? But is there anything else to test direct rendering with than glxgears? Something perhaps more "modern"?14:18
benedictnotwist: Touhou11 ok,thank you both for your input. i think i will turn at svn for now and see if it fits my needs14:18
Keyserthanks, bye14:18
notwistMingo_: what is your default gateway14:18
mustafa_how to14:18
notwistbenedict: good luck mate14:18
wdp_llutz, or nopaste, whatever is easier :)14:18
Touhou11mustafa_: Read the man pages14:18
BluesKajTouhou11, and what is it about your personal data that makes google so interested in you ?14:19
ActionParsnipMingo_: your router will give you a 192.168.0.0/24 IP      but your WAN IP will be different14:19
Mingo_okay let me ask a different question here. Is it neccessary to install chipset drivers for ubuntu?14:19
llutzwdp_: argh, i just reverted that. but i just used the interfaces-example from wiki.debian.org, added "bonding" to /etc/modules and that's it14:19
sabel21210Alright..il just ask it xD14:19
notwistMingo_: if you're getting an IP adress there's nothing wrong with the network14:19
ActionParsnipMingo_: which chipset?14:19
Mingo_right. there is something wrong with my box.14:19
Mingo_I am not sure going to go look it up now.,14:19
notwistMingo_: although in 99 % of cases when you get a 10-ip its because youre expected to go to a web login of some kind and authenticate yourself, or you dont have a service14:20
ActionParsnipMingo_: sound chipset? Wifi chipset? Video chipset?14:20
Touhou11!ot | BluesKaj14:20
ubottuBluesKaj: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:20
Mingo_well ethernet chipset14:20
notwistMingo_: you're getting an ip, its working. the end14:21
ActionParsnipMingo_: lots of them are in a default install, if not then yes....same with any OS14:21
Mingo_i can't use the internet14:21
Mingo_i get the IP14:21
Mingo_but i can't use the internet14:21
sabel21210I currently have Intel I5 quad core 3.3ghz  8gb ddr3 ram Nvidia Geforce GTX560 1gb video memory, i would like to know if Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Mobile Processor (4x 2.4GHz/6MB L3 Cache) / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M 3GB GDDR5 Video w/ NVIDIA Optimus [CZ-17] will be better or worse14:21
Mingo_my mask is 255.255.255.014:21
ActionParsnipMingo_: if you run:  ping -c 4 8.8.8.8       do you get replies?14:21
notwistMingo_: what happens when you open a browser, do you just get denied?14:21
notwistMingo_: if you try to open google.com or whatever14:21
Mingo_it just says connecting connecting14:22
Mingo_then nothing14:22
ActionParsnipsabel21210: optimus is a massive headache14:22
Picisabel21210: That would be more on-topic for ##hardware14:22
Mingo_server not found.14:22
Touhou11Mingo_: I wouldn't try opening google.com, I'd use a search engine which respects your privacy14:22
ActionParsnipMingo_: do the pings reply?14:22
notwistuuuuggghhhh14:22
Mingo_no they do now :(14:22
Mingo_not**14:22
ActionParsnipMingo_: can you ping your router's IP?14:23
xeocsa.p. : like duckduckg14:23
Mingo_let me see14:23
BluesKajTouhou11, and your worry about google isn't offtopic , I suppose14:23
Touhou11!ot | BluesKaj14:23
ActionParsnipxeocs: I do. Its awesome14:23
llutzwdp_: query? i got it up again14:23
notwistTouhou11: keep your FLOSS fundamentalism to yourself please14:23
BluesKajitonly works once Touhou1114:23
wdp_llutz, sure.14:23
xeocsa.p : me 214:23
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Mingo_no it appears that I cannot14:23
ActionParsnipMingo_: did you set the IP manually for the system by any chance?14:24
Mingo_no I didn't but that was my next question14:24
xeocsso ethernet card isnt working?? mingo14:24
Mingo_that might have been done in the past, but this is a fresh install of ubuntu14:24
notwistMingo_: could you please install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit) and then run 'ifconfig | pastebinit' and share the url you get14:24
Mingo_and everything was wiped off the computer14:24
Mingo_k14:24
Mingo_well do i need the internet14:25
Mingo_to install paste?14:25
notwistum...14:25
notwistyeah14:25
notwist:)14:25
Mingo_elohel14:25
Mingo_okay here is another symptom i should have included14:25
Mingo_when i first plug in the ethernet14:25
Mingo_i get internet14:25
Mingo_for 3 seconds14:25
Mingo_and then it cuts out14:25
ActionParsnipMingo_: if you run:  sudo dhclient eth0     do you get a reply?14:25
sabel21210Why is optimus such a headache?14:25
notwistMingo_: what is your context? college dorm? company intranet?14:25
Mingo_it says files exist14:26
Mingo_company internet14:26
Mingo_I am an entry level IT persomn14:26
Mingo_and my boss is out of town14:26
Mingo_and I dpont want to bother him on vacation14:26
notwistMingo_: how was your computer set up when it last worked?14:26
Mingo_it was configured as a firewall14:26
notwistMingo_: was it running Ubuntu then as well?14:26
ActionParsnipMingo_: ok, run:  dmesg | tail      should give clues14:26
Mingo_no it wasnt running ubuntu14:27
Mingo_kk14:27
michealPWsabel21210: Drivers. Notoriously broken. Not sure of the latest state but it seems everytime I'm on IRC help channels theres _somebody else_ that bought an Optimus system that can't get it to work properly. Linus Torvalds actually commented on this very issue if you're curious ( off-topic, though :P )14:27
Mingo_hmm14:27
Mingo_i cant really cut and copy what it found14:27
BluesKajMingo_, sudo service networking restart14:27
Mingo_^ K just did that14:27
Mingo_i got a srry ubuntu experienced a problem14:28
ActionParsnipMingo_: just search for it on the web14:28
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notwistMingo_: when you run ifconfig, your eth0 gets a 10-ip right? and thats from DHCP (auto)? whats your gateway?14:28
Mingo_i have been but i cat get anything14:28
Mingo_my gateway is 255.255.255.014:28
Mingo_oh i guess that is my mask14:29
michealPWYes14:29
notwistyeah14:29
Mingo_my box is restarting one second14:29
BluesKajsabel21210, have you tried bumblebee  ?14:29
notwistMingo_: im thinking your system, before the reinstall, could have had some kind of authentication towards the router that is giving you that 10-ip, that is now missing. that could explain why it works briefly but then shuts you off14:29
Mingo_I suspect you are right14:30
sabel21210Whats Bumblebee?14:30
Mingo_now that I am thinking about it14:30
Mingo_i am going to look in our dhcp.conf file14:30
Mingo_and see if there is anything funky about the mac addresses14:30
notwistMingo_: the 10-ips are internal and are given to you by the router so there is nothing wrong there, you are communicating and getting an ip14:30
Mingo_so where do you think I should look14:30
notwistMingo_: but it's choosing not to let you through im thinking14:30
Mingo_for the parameter messing this p14:30
Mingo_up*14:31
notwistMingo_: if you look at what your gateway is, that should be the ip to your router14:31
Mingo_k second14:31
michealPWsabel21210: Bumblebee is an open-source driver project for nVidia's Optimus systems, as far as I know.14:31
Mingo_i wish i could ssh into this box14:31
Mingo_-.-.-14:31
Mingo_would my gateway be my bcast14:31
notwistsabel21210 michealPW bumblbee* I think its spelt is also an IRC server for communicating over IM networks14:31
Mingo_or what?14:31
icerootMingo_: bumblebee is an open-source program which is using the closed source drivers14:31
michealPWOh, hrmm!14:31
icerootMingo_: sorry wrong nick14:32
icerootmichealPW: see above :)14:32
Mingo_@notwist after i run ifconfig -a what string of numbers would be my gateway14:32
notwistMingo_: i dont think those two terms are the same, but im not sure14:32
Mingo_i am connected over ethernet14:32
icerootnotwist: bitlbee is the icq/irc program14:32
michealPWsabel21210: Honestly.. I personally would _never_ recommend a GNU/Linux (Ubuntu) user to buy an nVidia optimus system. You're rewarding _terrible_ behavior on the part of nVidia. nVidia does not support their customers with drivers so why suffer? That's just my opinion, I don't represent Canonical/Ubuntu or anything..14:32
notwistMingo_: try route -n14:32
Mingo_k14:33
wdp_llutz, got it working.14:33
Mingo_k i get14:33
ActionParsnipMingo_: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network       what  is the product line for the Ethernet?14:33
Mingo_k second14:33
llutzwdp_: how?14:33
myherohow to print irssi session ?14:33
Mingo_i think my gateway is a 192.70.254.114:33
Mingo_the product line is14:34
michealPWJust a personal opinion. Not sure why _anybody_ keeps buying this crap from nVidia but I suppose that's all off-topic :P14:34
wdp_llutz, what i changed was: instead of underscore (_) i used a - for the bond options, instead of "slaves ethx ethy" i used "bond-slaves none" and i set ethx and ethy to auto and bond-master bond0 as described https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding here.14:34
xeocsmyh, copy paste print14:34
Mingo_"RTL8111/8168B PCI express gigabit ethernet controller14:34
Mingo_totally forgot to mention that the ethernet card is a PCI-E14:34
notwistMingo_: ping that ip14:34
notwistMingo_: also try it in your browser14:35
Fedot554 5.7.1 Relay access denied why i get this error ?14:35
Mingo_i cant ping it14:35
Fedotpostfix14:35
llutzwdp_: so there are differences debian/ubuntu, nice to know... glad that you got it working now14:35
Mingo_100% packet loss14:35
llutzFedot: you setup sasl-auth?14:35
wdp_llutz, seems so, though bridging works like in debian :)14:35
Fedotno14:35
notwistMingo_: now that i think of it i guess you cant because if you have a 10-ip and your netmask is 255.255.255.0 you can only access 10.0.0.X (i think)14:36
wdp_probably that just has to do with the more current kernel.14:36
notwistMingo_: do you have physical access to the router? can you get into some kind of admin interface from some other computer?14:36
Fedoti just follow this :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto14:36
Mingo_yea i could14:36
lesshastehow can you configure a web proxy for chromium? In firefox you just add it to an "automatic proxy configuration URL" in the preferences. Is there some chromium equivalent?14:36
Mingo_what kind of information would you want to see14:36
Mingo_http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false14:37
Mingo_should i download a driver from there?14:37
Mingo_not sure what linux kernel i am using14:37
notwistlesshaste: did you spend one second googling that question?14:37
ActionParsnipsabel21210: thereis bumblebee but its far from prerfect14:37
llutz!pm | Fedot14:37
ubottuFedot: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.14:37
lesshastenotwist, yes!14:37
ActionParsnipsabel21210: nvidia did join the linux foundation so maybe support will come, but its a massive headache14:37
myherohow to configure vsftpd for ssl, and whats the speed differen between active and passive modes ? and whats the best server for android ? I have android gingerbread 2.3.6....also how to print current irssi session ?14:37
lesshastenotwist, I found only a command line option which isn't waht I want14:37
notwistMingo_: drivers isnt the problem, you should just try to look at the settings your router have ansd figure out why its blocking you14:37
notwistlesshaste: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/proxy-switchy/caehdcpeofiiigpdhbabniblemipncjj14:38
Mingo_k damn this sucks; I just want to be able to download virtualbox14:38
xeocsmingo, so net gate, netgate14:38
Mingo_that's the only reason I am using this box anyway14:38
lesshastenotwist, oh.. it's not just a menu option?14:38
Mingo_to test freenas -.-14:38
michealPWI still wouldn't recommend _purchasing_ a new laptop with nVidia's Optimus "technology" to take a gamble with Bumblebee. The problem is that when it does not work, you _cannot_ use your nVidia GPU...14:38
michealPWYou are stuck using the _useless_ Intel GMA built into the core i7. Until nVidia provides support for Linux, I don't think _anybody_ should be recommended to buy their crap Optimus "technology".14:39
notwist!ot michealPW14:39
notwist!ot | michealPW14:39
ubottumichealPW: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:39
xeocsi think 10.x.x.x is a internal ip address14:39
notwistxeocs: it is14:39
wdp_llutz, or actually wrong, i didnt set slaves to "none" as in the doc, i set them to the devices. http://pastie.org/private/pbytul254hb8qgnjrslg  <-14:40
lesshastenotwist, thanks14:40
Fedotllutz i enabled smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes and now i get ogin failed, please check the username and password and try again14:40
ActionParsnipMingo_: what chip are you using?14:40
xeocsso, mingo can access internal ip, could it be netgate's error?14:40
Mingo_what's the command to see my system information?14:40
Mingo_what's netgate?14:40
ActionParsnipmyhero: apt-cache policy irssi       will show your irssi version14:41
mbumgarnerdoes anyone have  any information on building the Remmina package? i have tried but it is coming up short because of the CMakeList.txt14:41
xeocs网关14:41
mbumgarnersays theres an error on line 96...14:41
llutzwdp_: so someone should correct the ubuntu-tutorial or at least recheck the "bond-slaves ...." entry14:41
ActionParsnipmyhero: if you have openssh-server installed you can connect with andftp on android14:41
DrGrovHow is it with fonts in Ubuntu? Is there anything that could cause a conflict? Thinking mainly about if the ttf-mscorefonts-installer could cause issues when I also have fonts-liberation installed.14:42
ActionParsnipmyhero: it will connect securely rather than messing with SSL over FTP14:42
Fedotllutz i enabled smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes and now i get ogin failed, please check the username and password and try again14:42
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Mingo_@actionparsnip how can i get this information to you?14:43
ActionParsnipmyhero: also, andftp will be version independant, as long as the app installs on your version of android14:43
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ActionParsnipMingo_: run:     sudo lshw -C network    we only need the product line14:43
brendan`morning.. anyone know if libapache2-mod-xsendfile v0.9-2 would work on 12.04 LTS?14:43
xeocssorry a gateway14:43
brendan`12.04 comes with 0.12-1 from the repos, but i was going to try to install via deb14:44
Fedoti just installed postfix and enable sasl_auth i need to install dovecot to?14:44
xeocs mingo, sorry it is gate way14:44
ActionParsnipbrendan`: worth a try, you can always uninstall it14:44
xeocsperhaps there is something to do with that14:44
brendan`ehh, seemed to install ok ActionParsnip14:45
brendan`:D14:45
Mingo_@actionparsnip "RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller"14:45
brendan`listed as installed via dpkg -l and apache restarted without issue14:45
brendan`ty14:45
ActionParsnipbrendan`: just because it shows up there doesn't mean its installed right14:45
ActionParsnipbrendan`: sorry, crossed wires14:45
llutzFedot: what are you actually trying to achieve, just sending some mails from cli?14:46
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ActionParsnipbrendan`: pin the version now, or it will be upgraded when you run updates14:47
DrGrovBetter yet, is there any good universal fonts package available on Ubuntu that would cover most, if not all, font needs? Is there risk for conflicts regarding fonts?14:47
brendan`not familar with pinning14:47
ActionParsnipMingo_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc14:47
brendan`got a resource on reading up on it?14:47
ActionParsnip!pin | brendan`14:47
ubottubrendan`: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto14:47
brendan`ty ActionParsnip14:47
ActionParsnip!aptpin | brendan`14:47
Mingo_quantal14:47
Fedoti installed a newsletter system and i set it to send over smtp14:48
Fedotand he dont want to connect14:48
Fedotbut whit roundcube its working14:48
lucidomy-weather-indicator rulez14:48
ActionParsnipMingo_: http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/    may help14:50
myhero_ActionParsnip: srry i got disconnected and thnx :), i have openssh-server installed but i wanted try ftp over ssl for once and see its performance, also got andftp but is it best ? and for irssi i want to print the chat session for future reference14:50
ActionParsnipmyhero_: there is no best14:51
ActionParsnipmyhero_: if there was, NONE of the others would get used and die off14:51
myhero_ActionParsnip: ok yea thats right, what about the rest of the question ?14:51
ActionParsnipmyhero_: there are irc logs for the server online.14:52
myhero_ActionParsnip: yes...but there was a command for irssi chat session printing....i used it before but forgot now :(14:52
Kartagiswould creating a SPF record prevent my e-mails from ending in spam folder?14:54
llutzKartagis: if the receiver checks for SPF, maybe14:54
Kartagisllutz: google?14:54
lamontCore was generated by `/usr/bin/X :0 -core -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitc'.14:55
lamontProgram terminated with signal 6, Aborted.14:55
llutzKartagis: idk14:55
lamontso, where is that assert going to have logged anything?14:55
llutzKartagis: they set an SPF so i'd guess they also will check for thsoe "host -t TXT google.com"14:57
ActionParsnipmyhero_: you mean you want to show the irssi version?14:59
jiltdilIs LFS a open source project?15:00
myhero_ActionParsnip: i want to the chat.....i.e. like me or other ppl asking questions and You or other ppl giving answers or suggestions....the whole chat15:00
dwakarhow do you install xorg-dev in ubuntu 12.04?15:01
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RomeoAvaalmosarife the button REMOVE in Software Sources is inactive. Can I remove the lines from another place, please?15:01
ActionParsnip!log | myhero_15:01
ubottumyhero_: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/15:01
llutzjiltdil: #lfs15:01
vitimitio/15:02
dwakardid apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev and i got -Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have15:03
dwakarrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable15:03
dwakardistribution that some required packages have not yet been created15:03
dwakaror been moved out of Incoming.15:04
johnshaftCould somebody please suggest how to restore lock functionality in 12.04 Ltd15:04
Fedoti configure my server whit this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto ... and i activated sasl auth ... but when i connect i get the error authentificate error password or username wrong ( roundcoube works perfectly) but when i set a php script to connect to smtp server i get this error15:04
Fedoti dont have dovecot installed maybe this is problem?15:05
ActionParsnip!info xserver-xorg-dev15:05
ubottuxserver-xorg-dev (source: xorg-server): Xorg X server - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 267 kB, installed size 1425 kB15:05
Fedotbut i have courier imap and pop4315:05
ActionParsnipdwakar: its on the main repo15:05
dwakarActionParsnip: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have15:06
dwakarrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable15:06
dwakardistribution that some required packages have not yet been created15:06
ActionParsnipdwakar: do you have the universe / multiverse repos enabled etc?15:06
ActionParsnipdwakar: do you have a PPA added for Xorg?15:06
johnshaftWith Ubuntu tweak and xscreensaver installed I cannot lock screen15:06
ActionParsnipdwakar: yes, you said that earlier........15:06
ActionParsnipdwakar: and I saw it....hance me replying15:07
MonkeyDustjohnshaft  ctrl-alt l ?15:07
dwakarActionParsnip: NO , how do i enable them15:07
dwakarthere's a ppa for xorg?15:07
ActionParsnipdwakar: use software centre, or uncomment the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list15:07
ActionParsnipdwakar: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc15:07
dwakarActionParsnip: precise15:08
johnshaftSorry monkeydust not even alt + l15:08
MonkeyDustjohnshaft  ctrl-alt l   not just alt l15:08
ActionParsnipdwakar: should be ok15:09
designbybeckIs there a way to see what hz you are running for your CPU? The sticker shows a Intel Core Duo... but how do I know the speed? like 2.9ghz15:09
seednodedesignbybeck: Use a program like CPU-z, speecy, etc15:09
MonkeyDustwhat's hz?15:09
designbybeckanything that is built into the terminal or that i don't have to download anything? seednode15:10
designbybeckGhz Gigahertz15:10
escottdesignbybeck, cat /proc/cpuinfo15:10
johnshaftBoth options don't lock ...15:11
designbybeckthank you escott that is the kind of info I was looking for15:11
seednodedesignbybeck: Oh, my bad, thought this was hardware; that's why I mentioned windows programs.15:11
EaglemanHow would i nat a specific port of one of my virtual machines ( kvm ) with another port on the servers main ip address?15:12
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep GHz15:12
Eaglemanpc>wan>server ( port 5000 ) > guest os ( port 4000 vnc ) > connection established15:13
ActionParsnip!info speecy15:13
ubottuPackage speecy does not exist in quantal15:13
TheEndIsNyeOne day things will all be different15:14
TheEndIsNyeOne day things will all be different15:14
TheEndIsNyedifferent15:14
TheEndIsNyedifferent15:14
FloodBot1TheEndIsNye: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:14
seednodeActionParsnip: If that was about what I said, I meant speccy, and that's a windows utility15:15
Fedothello i installed postfix on my server and roundcube courier imap/pop3 . roundcube work perfectly send emails outside but dont recive i get error 554 5.7.1 <root@mail.smarth.ro>: relay acced denied15:15
ActionParsnipTheEndIsNye: every day is different, it's called a calendar15:15
ActionParsnipseednode: this is Ubuntu support.....15:15
Kingsyhow do you change the cpu frequency ?15:16
Eaglemanpc>wan>server ( port 5000 ) > guest os ( port 4000 vnc ) > connection established15:16
MiebsterWhat are some reasons why tab complete isn't showing me some of the executable in the folder I am looking at?  I know that if I type the full name of the executable it says "not found", so this is why it wont tab complete, but *why* is it not found?15:16
jribMiebster: pastebin what's actually happening15:16
escottMiebster, executables not in $PATH need a full path to the executable. something like "./executable"15:17
ActionParsnipKingsy: may work http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/indicator-cpufreq-cpu-frequency-scaling-indicator-applet15:17
ActionParsnipMiebster: also make sure the file is marked as executable15:17
Fedothello i installed postfix on my server and roundcube courier imap/pop3 . roundcube work perfectly send emails outside but dont recive i get error 554 5.7.1 <root@mail.smarth.ro>: relay acced denied15:18
KingsyActionParsnip: those look to be deadlinks15:18
ActionParsnipKingsy: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc15:18
KingsyActionParsnip: precise15:18
KingsyActionParsnip: so the natty and maverick debs don't apply, and I don't really wanna build it seom source.15:19
Kingsyfrom*15:19
ActionParsnipKingsy: let me search15:19
Kingsywicked15:19
Miebsterescott: yep that was it15:19
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Miebsterescott: thanks for being able to think like a noob15:20
KingsyActionParsnip: looks like its in the repos15:20
EaglemanHow would i nat a specific port of one of my virtual machines ( kvm ) with another port on the servers main ip address?15:20
Eaglemanpc>wan>server ( port 5000 ) > guest os ( port 4000 vnc ) > connection established15:20
ActionParsnipKingsy: cool15:20
llutzFedot: have you an entry in main.cf like "mydestination = mail.smarth.ro" or did you configure virtual-domains and added that host/domain as valid for reception?15:20
ActionParsnip!info indicator-cpufreq15:20
ubottuindicator-cpufreq (source: indicator-cpufreq): CPU frequency scaling indicator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.4-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 19 kB, installed size 338 kB15:20
ActionParsnipKingsy: sweet, get it in15:20
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TheEndIsNyeThis will all be all be different15:21
TheEndIsNyedifferent15:21
TheEndIsNyedifferent15:21
TheEndIsNyeThis will all be all be different15:21
FloodBot1TheEndIsNye: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:21
TheEndIsNyedifferent15:21
TheEndIsNyedifferent15:21
ActionParsnipTheEndIsNye: please don't bother15:21
llutzFedot: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html15:21
Eaglemanwhere is the banhammer15:22
compdocEagleman, port forwarding isnt working for you?15:22
Fedoti dont have virtual domains15:22
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KingsyActionParsnip: kaboooom15:22
Eaglemancompdoc the pc is directly connected to the internets15:23
ActionParsnipKingsy: I'd let the kernel manage it, bit easier15:23
dwakarActionParsnip: i already have universe,multiverse repos enabled. I used synaptic, and it says  xserver-xorg-dev : Depends: libxkbfile-dev but it is not going to be installed.15:23
compdocyeah, but does the VM connect directly?15:23
babilen!ops TheEndIsNye15:23
Picibabilen: its already gone.15:24
ActionParsnipdwakar: what if you try install the libxkbfile-dev yourself?15:24
* babilen rubs his eyes15:24
Eaglemanwell that the problem i dont know how to set up the networking on my vm, currently its in its own virtual network ( 192.168.122.0 )15:25
ActionParsnipEagleman: what are you using to virtualize?15:25
KingsyActionParsnip: yeah, it just helps if you increase the frequency for flash videos15:25
Eaglemankvm with virt-manager15:25
ActionParsnipKingsy: I use renice for that :)15:25
compdocEagleman, you need a bridge to allow the vm to participate on the lan15:26
robinwhello everyone15:26
Eaglemanit needs to participate in the wan15:26
Eaglemani've had it working in the lan, it recieved an ip address from the dhcp server in the lan15:26
robinwI got a pretty noob question heh, how do I turn on my admin priviliges?15:27
llutzrobinw: use sudo15:27
dwakarActionParsnip: in synaptic it shows that libxkbfile-dev depends on libxkbfile1 (which is already installed)15:27
robinwah u mean in terminal?15:27
ActionParsnipdwakar: can you at what version?15:27
llutz!sudo | robinw15:27
ubotturobinw: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo15:27
robinwThx will read that, still very new with this15:28
Eaglemanisnt it substitute user instead of super user?15:28
RomeoAvanot working after remove the duplicates15:28
ActionParsniprobinw: you have admin access, just prefix commands that need it with the word 'sudo'15:28
compdocEagleman, well it doesnt have to, but it depends on how you have things set up. If you have a firewall on the host PC facing the WAN, you can get pretty creative15:28
RomeoAvaE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)15:28
RomeoAvaE: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/15:28
RomeoAvaE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)15:28
RomeoAvaE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?15:28
TheEndIsNyeToday things will all be different15:28
TheEndIsNyedifferent15:28
TheEndIsNyedifferent15:28
Eaglemanhaha15:28
FloodBot1TheEndIsNye: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:28
llutzEagleman: "sudo, sudoedit - execute a command as another user"15:28
almoxarifeRomeoAva: you have synaptic open already?15:28
robinwmy problem was just that i wanted to delete a folder from my old home folder and couldent drag it to the bin heh15:28
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: if you have updates installing, let them finish. Close any GUI package apps you have open15:28
TheEndIsNyeToday things will all be different15:28
dwakarActionParsnip: libxkbfile-dev : Depends: libxkbfile1 (= 1:1.0.7-1) but 1:1.0.7-1ubuntu0.1 is to be installed15:29
robinw!Gksu15:29
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)15:29
RomeoAvaI will be back in a few hours, thank you15:29
ActionParsniprobinw: run:  gksudo nautilus $HOME    and you can drag what you want15:30
ActionParsniprobinw: what is 'heh'?15:30
Eaglemancompdoc i do have iptables but i am having problems setting it up15:30
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Nurgiells15:30
xyuwho15:30
ActionParsnipdwakar: looks like you have the proposed repo enabled. Is that true?15:30
xyuwhois sasasa15:30
robinwI think you actually know that ActionParsnip !15:30
dwakarActionParsnip: I don15:31
ActionParsniprobinw: i have no idea, its not a file in bin....15:31
robinwty for the help15:31
dwakari don't know what that means15:31
dwakarActionParsnip: Proposed repo?15:31
ActionParsnipdwakar: yes, gives access to newer versions of packages, it can cause issues15:32
compdocI use a firewall running in a VM on one of my servers. I never had to learn iptables. The firewall allows different zones (red, green, blue, etc) and I can assign a zone to use an isolated virtual network where only one or two PCs listen15:32
compdocPCs meaning VMs15:32
compdocEagleman  ^15:32
xyuwhois ddd15:32
dwakarActionParsnip: I think so, what should i do?15:32
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ActionParsnipdwakar: disable the repo15:32
xyu?15:33
EaglemanWell there is no such option with virt-manager15:33
KingsyActionParsnip: that applet doesnt work, it could be because I am using xfce and not gnome, I never thought.15:33
[snake]does ubuntu speed down the hard drive when it's inactive?15:33
MonkeyDustcompdoc  try #ubuntu-server15:33
ActionParsnipKingsy: can you expand on 'doesn't work' please, its almost meaningless15:33
ikonia[snake]: depends on your hardware15:33
compdocEagleman, you have to set some things up manually15:33
[snake]ikonia, is there a way I can tell it not to? :D15:34
KingsyActionParsnip: it doesnt appear in the list of items you can add to a panel. and its not in the application menu.15:34
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ikonia[snake]: there is an option to sure, I certainly can't remember it off the top of my head.15:34
mustafa_renaming a file using command line15:34
ActionParsnipKingsy: is it runnable as an app?15:34
ActionParsnipmustafa_: use mv15:34
mustafa_anyideaa15:34
ActionParsnipmustafa_: mv name newname15:34
harry__Can someone help me find support for printing? I am using zorin, a ubuntu based distro. I would like to find the support page like this one but when I go #zorin there is only me there??? I cant believe there is only me ?15:34
dawneIs this the preferred method for setting a static wireless ip? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142627015:34
[snake]ikonia, yeah I can't find it though.... so idk what to do.15:35
ikonia[snake]: why do you need to do this ?15:35
KingsyActionParsnip: no, if you run it from a terminal it just does nothing.15:35
ikonia[snake]: if the disk is not in use it's good to slow it / park it15:35
Kingsynevermind I guess, its not really that important.15:35
[snake]ikonia, well it's being used, I'm syncronizing my bitcoin wallet for the first time.15:35
ikonia[snake]: then it won't spin it down15:35
ikonia[snake]: as it's in use15:36
MiebsterSo I am running ubuntu 10.05 and I need to get python 2.7 installed as a dev environment, this is what I ended up doing, is it bad/good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427757/15:36
[snake]oh hm. ok thanks ikonia15:36
incogso linux has removed 386 support15:36
ikoniaincog: no it's not15:36
Toph2harry__,,, try #ZorinOS15:37
incogthose poor africans will be unable to boot ubuntu on our ewaste15:37
ikoniaMiebster: depends if you trust that PPA15:37
harry__Toph2  thx15:37
dwakarActionParsnip: so what should i do with libxkbfile115:37
Miebsterikonia: its what the guys in #python recomended15:37
lovHi, I've got a drive which I want to auto mount on a location that doesn't normally exist. Using the Disk Utility tool, the default effect of clicking "Mount Volume" is to mount it on /media/SSD, but when I try making an entry in /etc/fstab with a mount point of /media/SSD mount -a fails with "mount: mount point /media/SSD does not exist". What am I doing wrong in fstab?15:37
jriblov: why don't you create the mount point?15:38
Miebsterikonia: hypothetically lets say I didn't, there is any "trusted" ppas with python 2.7.3 built again ubuntu 10.05 are there?15:38
lovjrib: I could do this, but I'm wondering if there's a flag that would auto-create it for me.15:38
jriblov: no, not that I know of15:39
ikoniaMiebster: ubuntu 10.04 (just a heads up) I'm not aware of any PPA for anything that I trust15:39
ActionParsnipdwakar: once you remove the proposed repo, you should be able to just install it15:39
ikoniaMiebster: the best thing is contact the guy who maintains the PPA and get an idea of what he's done and how keen he is to support you or anything that hangs off the PPA15:39
[snake]lov, perhaps the manual pages have an answer, man mount15:39
ActionParsnipikonia: not even the firefox team one?15:39
lovjrib: OK, odd. So Disk Utility actually creates the location to mount it onto?15:39
ikoniaActionParsnip: no,15:39
felix___i accidently deleted needed stuff in /boot and now all kernel updates fail. is there a way to fix that?15:39
[snake]in terminal lov15:39
lov[snake]: I've looked at it, i didn't see anything relevant.15:39
ActionParsnipikonia: fair play15:39
[snake]oh ok. Yeah I'd go with making the folder15:39
* lov shrugs15:40
lovalright, I guess I'll do that. Thanks anyway.15:40
[snake]no problem15:40
Jules_Hi there,15:40
Jules_I have a problem.15:41
Jules_My hard disk is making a really annoying sound.15:42
harry__Doesnt make sence to me how Ubuntu can have over 1750 active users and Ubuntu based Zorin has only 7??  Is there any other active #for zorin other than the ZorinOs???  I cant get my printer to work15:42
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Jules_It's only on Ubuntu, i don't have this problem with Windows 7/815:42
dwakarActionParsnip: can i do that with synaptic preferences, you know disabling the proposed repos15:42
ActionParsnipfelix___: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-generic linux-image-`uname -r`15:42
ActionParsnipdwakar: not sure how, it is possible. I always use the sources.list file. I hate those GUI package apps, too slow for my tastes15:43
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Jules_Is there anybody out there that can help me? That would be awesome.15:45
harry__ Doesnt make sence to me how Ubuntu can have over 1750 active users and Ubuntu based Zorin has only 7??  Is there any other active #for zorin other than the ZorinOs???  I cant get my printer to work and none of the 7 have responded in a while..  The system now sees the printer, I have jobs qued and the printer is green light and ready...  Still not printing15:45
ikoniaharry__: you said that15:45
ikoniaharry__: please take it to another channel15:45
harry__Ikonia  I added to it the problem details.15:46
llaskin1how can I kill the GUI from ubuntu?  I tried logging out, but it still brings me to the GUI...I'd like to have a differnt instance using the GUI, and can't startx on there till I kill the other X server...15:46
ActionParsnipharry__: if you use a distro with a smaller user base, you will get less support.15:46
ikoniaharry__: yes, but we don't support Zorin here15:46
ikoniaharry__: so we won't be helping15:46
escottJules_, yes im sure there is someone out there who can help15:46
ActionParsnipharry__: why not install a real Ubuntu install and get the full support of the Ubutnu community.....15:46
Jules_Escott I hope so :)15:47
harry__I have ubuntu 12 on my machine.  Cant convince my friend to make the leap.  But he is getting there slowly.  Zorin is based completely off Ubunt so I figured the similarities may be close enough to help him out.15:48
dwakarActionParsnip: is there a way to regenerate sources.list ?15:48
ikoniaharry__: I'm sure you can help him then, or use the Zorin OS channel15:48
TimFreemanI like to use opie, which lets you log in without transmitting a reusable15:49
TimFreemanpassword.  It was present in Lucid, but apparently is not present in Precise.15:49
TimFreemanDoes anyone know of some other one time password scheme that's present in15:49
TimFreemanPrecise?  Is there some procedure I can use to get Opie into Precise?15:49
FloodBot1TimFreeman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:49
harry__Ikonia Well, before I waste anyones time, I would try the Zorin channel ya think?15:49
ActionParsnipdwakar: all you have to do is open the file in a text editor and comment out the 2 lines for the proposed repo....why do you need to regenerate anything at all...?15:49
ikoniaharry__: good luck15:49
gmachine_24hi. to find the ip address, or local address of all computers connected to my home network, what do I do from the CLI?15:49
dwakarActionParsnip: i don't think the problem is the proposed repo15:50
harry__Ikonia Thx... If you only knew what Ive been through getting him off windows, I'd get a medal. lol15:50
Jules_My hard disk is making a really anoying noise.15:50
Jules_It's only on Ubuntu.15:50
escottJules_, then its probably failing and you need to replace it15:50
ActionParsnipdwakar: then comment it out15:51
gmachine_24Jules_, so, got a question?15:51
Jules_But on Windows it doesn't make that sound.15:51
ActionParsnipdwakar: you will need:   gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      to get write access15:52
ActionParsnipJules_: does the system have a make and model?15:52
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escottJules_, its hard to imagine what Linux would be doing differently from windows that would cause a different sound. more likely ubuntu is located in a position on the disk that stresses the read heads and that is making the noise.15:53
Jules_ActionParsnip, no it doesn't.15:53
ActionParsnipJules_: is it a desktop or a laptop?15:54
Jules_It's really weird. I know.15:54
Jules_Desktop15:54
Jules_It has 8 GB of RAM and a AMD FX 4100 processor.15:55
dwakarActionParsnip: here's my sources.list http://pastie.org/551643615:55
seednodeJules_: Hey, another Bulldozer victim!15:55
ActionParsnipJules_: have you tried the drive tester on the ultimate boot cd? It has the testers from the main drive manufacturers15:55
Jules_Nop, i didn't.15:56
almoxarifeJules_: i hear the same 'noise' if you want to call it that, not using win though, its the location of the partition on the drive, this one (install) is the quiet one, the other is much louder15:56
ActionParsnipdwakar: comment out 127 and 128, may help15:57
circlewhat's the difference between the 'less' and 'more' programs?15:57
ActionParsnipcircle: read the man pages ;)15:57
Picicircle: their features, read the manpages15:57
ActionParsnipJules_: it will test all the drive, if you hear a noise partway then you know the score :)15:57
escottJules_, almoxarife, any kind of clicking noise from a disk should be a cause for concern.15:58
Jules_but it's a little crazy.15:58
Jules_I installed only Windows 815:59
Jules_No  problems.15:59
Jules_Even if i run just the live disk. It gives that noise.15:59
almoxarifeescott: no clicking here, so whine either, chirping though, mice?15:59
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escottJules_, it is a physical device. and can fail in physically different locations at different times. if the OSes are in those different locations you may here it from one and not the other16:00
felix___is there a way to cleanup old, failed installs?16:00
llaskin1how can I kill the GUI from ubuntu?  I tried logging out, but it still brings me to the GUI...I'd like to have a differnt instance using the GUI, and can't startx on there till I kill the other X server...16:00
ntzrmtthihu777and hello irc!16:00
Jules_Hmm, i my PC is just 3 months old.16:01
almoxarifefelix___: clean how? explain16:01
gmachine_24hi. to find the ip address, or local address of all computers connected to my home network, what do I do from the CLI?16:01
escottJules_, failures are very common for new disks. you should check the smart status in the disk utility16:01
Jules_Sow i think im gonna call the store.16:02
escottgmachine_24, you can ping all the computers but they are not obligated to respond16:02
almoxarifegmachine_24: you could install and run 'nmap'16:02
Jules_I will, im at the moment running Elementary OS. That's based on Ubuntu.16:02
Jules_Sow i don't know how i can find it there/16:02
phunyguy_workgmachine_24, the arp command may work as well if your PC has spoken with the devices recently.16:03
felix___almoxarife: nvm apt-get autoremove does the trick16:03
phunyguy_workarp -a to list cached arp entries16:04
phunyguy_work(IIRC)16:04
gmachine_24sudo arp -a16:04
gmachine_24?16:04
phunyguy_workno sudo needed.16:04
phunyguy_workactually just arp works.16:05
ikoniayou will not find all devices with arp16:05
kdsmainif i just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts and I want to set my computer up as a server, will I be able to follow the 12.04 lts server edition guide?16:05
phunyguy_workikonia, thats what I said.16:05
phunyguy_work"if your PC has spoken with the device recently"16:05
almoxarife!nmap16:06
phunyguy_workand I offered it as an alternative method.16:06
ikonianmap won't do it16:06
phunyguy_work!info nmap16:06
ubottunmap (source: nmap): The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 6.00-0.1 (quantal), package size 4223 kB, installed size 14862 kB16:06
almoxarifeikonia: wont do what?16:06
Robbiliecan yomeone tell me where to find jono?16:06
phunyguy_work!info jono16:06
ubottuPackage jono does not exist in quantal16:06
mustafa_my ubuntu indicate that there is internal error with the system what should i do16:06
ikoniascan the whole network and give you a list of IP addresses/hostname mapping (it won't do mapping reliable)16:06
phunyguy_workalso by gmachine_24's wording, I assume he needs mac.16:07
kdsmainanyone know if the 12.04 lts server guide will work sufficiently well for 12.04 desktop?16:07
magpiiwhwnever i minimize a window, it disapears, how do i restore the default bottom panal?16:07
ikoniakdsmain: depends what you are doing16:07
kdsmainor if there is a good channel for setting up a server?16:08
escottkdsmain, apt-get install ubuntu-server16:08
almoxarifeikonia: ok, is there something that does a better job than nmap?, the nick wanted something cli16:08
kdsmainis ubuntu-server a different OS?16:08
ikoniaalmoxarife: I really don't think so, tools such as nmap depend on machines responding, you'd do network mapping at a network device level16:08
ikoniakdsmain: no16:08
gandhijee_hello, is there a way to change the color depth in ubuntu without having to edit the xorg.conf file?16:08
mustafa_my ubuntu indicate that there is internal error with the system what should i do any idea16:09
kdsmain#ikonia: ok thanks16:09
ikoniamustafa_: what errors ?16:09
almoxarifemustafa_: what error?16:09
phunyguy_work!patience16:09
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:09
mustafa_i dont know really hes just telling me that hes experience an internal error16:10
ikoniamustafa_: where is it telling you this ?16:10
phunyguy_workikonia, must be the "Ubuntu has detected an internal error" popup.16:11
ikonianever seen it16:11
phunyguy_workmustafa_, click "more information if you can, please"16:11
phunyguy_workerr16:11
phunyguy_workmustafa_, click "more information" if you can, please16:11
phunyguy_workor show details, going off memory... it should tell you the failing application.16:12
mustafa_some pop up window just appered telling me report a problem16:12
mustafa_problem type crash16:12
MonkeyDustmustafa_  that's apparmor16:12
mustafa_saying apport vrsion 2.6.1 ubuntu 316:14
hidHi I'm looking for a software which allow you to see and edit (or not) video metadata.16:14
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mustafa_title :evaluation -calender -factory crashed with sigabrt16:14
mustafa_title :evaluation -calender -factory crashed with sigabrt16:15
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mustafa_i have been having this problem a few days for now16:16
mustafa_its telling me to send error report16:16
MonkeyDustmustafa_  i had that too, in the beginning, it stopped after a few days, dunno what caused it16:18
MonkeyDustdunno = don't know   <- sorry16:18
mustafa_It have been afew days from now16:18
joey8hid:  what have uou tried so far16:19
wizard`if I change my password on a server, do I need to regenerate an rsa certificate for ssh with rsa to work?16:19
mustafa_some times when iam start the system and some times it takes a while to appear16:19
mustafa_iam using ubuntu 12.1016:19
wizard`i recently changed the password, and now I can only seem to connect via password only16:20
llaskin1does anyone have experience making the jenkins user(a user created by installing jenkins) acccess to the GUI on the machine/X windows?16:20
llaskin1I'm trying, but can't get that username for some reason to show up int he login list...16:20
somsipllaskin1: how are you installing jenkins?16:20
somsipllaskin1: hang on - you want to login as jenkins user?16:21
llaskin1yes somsip, i do.16:21
llaskin1he has rvm installed for his user16:21
llaskin1and I would like to be able to run stuff in the GUI to test it as hiim to see why I am having some of the issues I am...16:21
joey8what happens if there is already a user called jenkins16:21
mustafa_what any one have any idea why its happening16:21
hidjoey8 : Checked the settings with nautilus, opened it with vlc but there were not all the metadata.16:21
llaskin1joey8 there isnt.16:21
somsipllaskin1: not sure why you need to do that. If I have to use jenkins user I sudo -i; su jenkins16:22
llaskin1right16:22
llaskin1but when I try to run firefox frmo the terminal, it dies16:22
llaskin1cuz it can't access the correct display for it when I try to have selenium start firefox when logged in as jenkins via ruby.16:22
somsipllaskin1: you using framebuffer X display thingy?16:23
mustafa_any one know what is the most stable ubuntu version to use it as a server16:23
llaskin1no no16:23
llaskin1the box I am logging into it is a physical ubuntu box on my desk16:23
llaskin1it has a user on it, which is the main user "llaskin"16:23
somsipllaskin1: it's running X already?16:23
joey8hid:  try http://grigio.org/16:23
llaskin1somsip: yes.16:23
llaskin1its running ubuntu12.04 which boots into X when I reboot the machine...16:24
somsipllaskin1: worked fine for me with 12.04 desktop and on a headless server. What method to install jenkins? PPA?16:24
llaskin1this has little to do with jenkins other then the fact that I want jenkins to be able to login to ubuntu desktop16:25
llaskin1somsip:  you were able to login as jenkins user from this screen: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WE3KdvhtQCY/T5ZmI4TyDpI/AAAAAAAAIqc/BuD1Ehsk9XE/s1600/ubuntu12.04-login-screen.png ?16:25
llaskin1(or a similar looking screen?)16:25
mustafa_any one with any idea why is my system reporting an internal error16:25
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escottmustafa_, without knowing what the error is. no16:26
somsipllaskin1: I've had no need to do that. Jenkins runs as a service. I access the web interface16:26
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K1rkWould anyone happen to have any input on my LightDM question?  ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209246116:27
mustafa_just a question i s not upgrading the system creates an ibselete packages16:27
Guest92298hi guys16:28
Evolutionis it possible to install ubuntu using a vnc connection? I've got a videocard that the default driver absolutely hates.16:28
mustafa_obsolete packages16:28
hidjoey8 : I'm already struggling with English so Spanish...16:28
Guest92298does anyone know how to enter console when playing cs 1.6 in wine16:28
hidjoey8 : What's the name of the software ?16:29
joey8hid:  extract from reeleso.com..... If you're a Linux user a good program to do this looks to be XMP Manager. While the software is still in development from what I read, it looks to directly edit a large number of formats.16:29
RickZillaI downloaded virtualbox last night, but haven't taken it through the paces yet...any advice/words of wisdom before I get started?16:30
somsipllaskin1: anyway, doesn't selenium run the browser, and if you/root are running selenium it will have access to the display16:30
somsipllaskin1: oh - you didn't mention selenium. My assumption maybe...16:31
halvorsMay anyone update the roundcibe package to the latest version?  0.8.4 http://www.roundcube.net/16:34
llaskin1somsip yes i know...i'm having some issues which are ubuntu specific, but I need to login as jenkins to somewhere so I can run firefox as the jenkins user16:37
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hidjoey : thank you16:39
joey8hid: yw16:39
scarrsI have a slight problem.... I cannot figure out where to copy my .pak files fo run quake3 and quake 3 server... I am setting up a quake3 dedicated server. help pls?16:40
escottscarrs, should be /usr/games/quake something16:41
scarrsty16:41
gmachine_24RickZilla, I did a test run of virtualbox a couple weeks ago. It was easy. Try it and if you have ? check back in.16:41
RickZillagmachine_24 Thanks for the response. Do I have to have a valid copy of Win to use it?16:42
kenny__RickZilla, yes16:43
gmachine_24RickZilla, yes.16:43
RickZillak, I thought as much...good to know, and I'll try it out this weekend.16:43
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gmachine_24But I only ran it on Linux16:44
RickZillaThanks for the responses16:44
RickZillaDoes it have to be a copy of Win not already installed elsewhere? ie, another machine in the home16:44
Kroachis there a way to get width of the gnome-terminal from the command line?16:45
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Robbilieanybody with a nexus 7 here?16:49
randomnessim trying to install this .dep file but it says.. dependency is not satisfiable: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse16:50
randomness.deb*16:50
RickZillaRobbili: Not yet, but I hear 13.4 is pretty boss on it16:50
joey8i have to install a 32bit debian linux file and it the filename is aaa.pkg (note no "d"). Does anyone know how to install it please16:50
Robbiliei dont have nor want a n7 but i need a log :D16:51
randomnesscan someone help me understand what that means?16:51
doomgiverin top, compiz is using up 117% cpu o.O16:51
doomgiveris this "normal"?16:51
randomnessdoomgiver: maybe try a different graphics driver16:52
doomgiveron a i5,16:52
doomgiverhmm16:52
randomnessno it's not normal16:52
randomnessrandomness: instead of looking at top open up system monitor and see if it says the same thing16:53
randomnessoops doomgiver i mean - sry got a buzz ;p16:53
escottKroach, $COLUMNS16:53
doomgiverhow do i open system monitor?16:54
doomgiverquantal quetzal16:54
Kroachescott: Thank you16:54
halvorsI get an error from dovecot, and can't figure out how to fix it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427860/16:54
doomgiverok, i found system monitor...16:56
longshot7how do you open a USB thumbdrive in Ubuntu 12.10??16:56
myhero_exit16:57
ceed^Hi, I would like to get rid off all the "a system program has crashed do you want to report it" stuff. I get those and there's nothhing wrong with my system, and even if there is some crash somewhere I do not care and do not have time to mess with it.16:57
doomgiverrandomness: ok, one of the cpu cores is always at 100%16:58
doomgiveri mean, the load shifts between cores, but at least one od the is always at 100%16:58
MonkeyDustceed^  try this http://ubuntuguide.net/disable-apport-error-reporting-in-ubuntu-12-1017:00
llutzhalvors: you have set something like "mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir" which expands to /var/www/Maildir for user www-data, but that directory (/var/www) is owned root:root 755, so dovecots delivery agent (lda) has no permission to store mails there.17:00
Bitchohi people17:01
llutzhalvors: http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailLocation  shows you some ideas how to fix that (per-user mail location, homeless-users). but you really should check if www-data needs to receive mails at all17:02
gmachine_24longshot7, when you plug in the usb thumb drive it doesn't show up automatically I'm assuming?17:02
bambinodo anyone know a good sound normalizaer for mp3 in ubuntu?17:03
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ckhakeem108exit17:04
oskar-bambino:  mp3gain sounds good ;)17:05
bambinooskar thanks17:05
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DanielX42Hey, I'm an ubuntu newbie. I want to edit id3tags with id3v2 and sometimes I get weird (chinese) letters as tags. But only on my testserver not on my ubuntu computer at home. I set locale first to us-utf8 and then de-utf8 but no change. Is it possible that id3v2 runs under another locale setting? Can I change this somehow?17:14
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biebI am putting together a test webserver to check out Word Press.. does the alternated CD have webserver install?17:19
bobweaverbieb,  any reason why alternative and not server image ?17:19
biebbobweaver: I didnt look for server install.. I have the alternate CD image already.. I will go grab the server.. thanks17:20
Fohlenhey out there, i have a problem with python and ubuntu12.1017:21
bobweaverFohlen,  could you please give us more details? like I am trying to do X but X happens when I do X17:21
oskar-Fohlen:  I have one with Python in general ;-)  (I guess, we need details!)17:21
Fohleni've installed python and python-dev and tryed to compile a c binding, but it failed and cant find Python.h17:21
Fohlenwas writing :D17:21
Fohlenbtw it cant find the declarations17:22
FohlenI get errors like this: Function not defined: »bool SbPy::triggerFuncEvent(const char*, std::vector<_object*>*, PyObject*)«:17:23
bobweaverwhat version of py ?17:23
Fohlen2.717:23
bobweaverFohlen,  you installed with apt or source ?17:23
DanielX42Is there any language setting except locale in ubuntu?17:23
Fohlenapt17:23
myherowhile installing openssh-server it is suggesting some other packages also namely rssh molly-guard openssh-blacklist openssh-blacklist-extra monkeysphere packages and these packages are not getting installed on their own as being suggestive packages......but when i am installing them by "sudo apt-get install rssh molly-guard openssh-blacklist openssh-blacklist-extra monkeyshere" then these are gettting installed saying that "Package rssh is not available, but 17:23
myheroThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or17:23
myherois only available from another source17:23
bobweaverFohlen,  try to install python via tar.ball   or what happens when you run    "locate Python.h"  can you find it ?17:24
Fohleni can find it17:24
Fohlenthats the shame :/17:24
bobweaverFohlen, then DL tar bar17:24
Fohlenits located where it should be17:24
bobweaverhttp://python.org/ftp/python/2.7.2/Python-2.7.2.tar.bz217:24
Fohlensure that will fix it? or maybe just say gcc to use the version?17:25
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Fohleni think it's a problem on linking17:25
bobweaverFohlen,  take a look at this yet ?  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8282231/ubuntu-i-have-python-but-gcc-cant-find-python-h17:25
myherohow to install these and are these packages necessary at all ? blacklist nad blacklist-extra packages however are available for installation thrrough software center but when oe has to install through software center then why will anybody use apt-get install command ....17:25
MonkeyDustmyhero  try apt-get install rssh by itself, not as part of a list17:25
myheroMonkeyDust: ^^17:25
myheroMonkeyDust: same error with package 'rssh' has no installation canndidate17:26
bandahow can i find out why these packages are being held back when i $ sudo apt-get upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427956/17:26
nongoogleubuntu keeps reverting a script to unwriteable on a boot stick17:26
MonkeyDustmyhero  try sudo apt-get update, first17:27
myheroMonkeyDust: ok17:27
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Fohlenbobweaver, i gonna try that17:27
bobweaverFohlen,  you could try having gcc being a different version. but 1st run     sudo find / -name '[Pp]ython.h'  fi it does not find it then the header filr is not installed or called something else17:27
oskar-nongoogle:  does the underlying file system know of the set permissions?17:27
myheroMonkeyDust: btw rssh is important and necessary or it can be left ? what work does it do ?17:27
Fohlenbobweaver, i think it is installed17:27
llutzmyhero: packages "suggested" might be usefull but aren't necessary17:27
bandathe gui upgrade manager wants to install the packages but apt-get is holding them back? mostly kernel upgrades?17:28
bobweaverFohlen,  then run command looking for header file17:28
Fohlenit just doesnt links to the Python.h17:28
Fohlenthats my fucking problem :/17:28
nongoogledunno oskar-17:28
MonkeyDustmyhero  i didnt k now it existed and never missed it, i use rsync and ssh17:29
burghello. i have some programmable keys on my keyboard. how can i bind some actions to them in ubuntu?17:29
bobweaverwhoa language there partner this is a family channel Fohlen  (but I understand furstration )17:29
h00kFohlen: please keep the cursing not in this channel17:29
jribbanda: are you using "apt-get upgrade" instead of "apt-get dist-upgrade"?17:29
bobweaverburg,  open dash type in keyboard and go to the shortcuts page17:29
myheroMonkeyDust: throw some light on rsync17:29
bandajrib yeah should i do dist-upgrade?17:29
oskar-nongoogle:  see the filesystem in the output of "mount". e.g. vfat does not support it...17:29
jrib!dist-upgrade | banda17:30
ubottubanda: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.17:30
burgbobweaver: thank you17:30
bandajrib thanks man17:30
jribbanda: yes, dist-upgrade will let packages change dependencies (which is how the kernel upgrades work)17:30
bobweavernp burg  enjoy :)17:30
nongooglei got vfat17:31
nongoogleoskar-17:31
oskar-ok17:31
MonkeyDustmyhero  is similar to cp, but more versatile17:31
myheroMonkeyDust: rsync ?17:32
doomgiverwhats that software called, that displays data on the descktop "wallpapaer", i hope you understand... that is used to see system info... its modifiable and criptable, i forget its name17:32
devjustforfunpeople what's that mean: bash: type: write error: Broken pipe17:32
llutzdoomgiver: conky17:32
doomgiveryeah!!!17:32
myheroMonkeyDust: if yes then does it has a gui or its same terminal based ?17:32
jrib!conky | doomgiver17:32
doomgiverthanks!17:32
bobweaverdoomgiver,  screenlets ?17:32
jribI swear that used to exist...17:33
doomgiverthats it, i totally forgot its name17:33
MonkeyDustmyhero  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync17:33
myheroMonkeyDust: ok17:33
winb!apt-get17:34
myheroMonkeyDust: whats the difference in speed between active and passive modes ?17:34
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)17:34
myheroMonkeyDust: of ftp or ssh ?17:34
MonkeyDustmyhero  best were to read about it, that's how I learned it17:36
myheroMonkeyDust: ok17:37
py_candear ubuntu support could you get new mpd versions?17:37
py_canthat or not buggy17:37
jribpy_can: buggy how?17:37
bobweaverno but you can17:37
max999hi evryone, im struggling with an ubuntu fork on my acer aspire one 756 - it seems to randomly power off (with always the same few applications for mobile internet and rdp sessions running). i did run a ram check (memtest86+) over night with no errors.. heat seems to be no matter too :)17:38
py_canjrib: idk, #mpd send me here to ask17:38
py_canbecause they dont support/do not help me with my problem17:38
bobweaver!info mpd17:38
ubottumpd (source: mpd): Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16.5-1ubuntu4 (quantal), package size 211 kB, installed size 555 kB17:38
py_cancorrect.17:38
jribpy_can: well are you experiencing a particular bug that's been reported but fixed in a version later than what's in ubuntu?17:38
bobweaverpy_can,  this is a dbus runner ?17:38
myheroquit17:38
py_canjrib: no idea, I cant get output to an icecast server17:39
py_canbobweaver: not sure what that is17:39
L3mcemax999: what does it say about your battery?17:39
Fohlenbobweaver, compiled it, still not running17:39
bobweaverpy_can,  it is what deamons use sometimes to talk like with libdee on dbus. Like how unity uses it to listen to say lens and scopes that are python17:39
max999l3mce: how to check? its happening when attached to wire too17:39
VarazirHello I have made a script to run on up start http://pastebin.ca/2291905 I get error  /proc/self/fd/9: 18: [: on: unexpected operatorif I run the script by it self like this http://pastebin.ca/2291900 it works17:40
py_canbobweaver: hmm ok17:40
bobweaverFohlen,  and you found the py header file and included it to the whatever it is that you are compiling ?17:40
py_canbobweaver: to answer your question, no idea17:40
L3mcemax999: the native utility under settings will evaluate its health... but if it happens when plugged in... it is something else.17:40
bobweaverpy_can,  sorry I know nothing about mdwhatever17:40
py_can:) np17:40
Fohlenhmm bobweaver17:41
max999l3mce: there are no kernel errors or other error messages in the logs i checked (dmesg and var log syslog stuff) :l17:41
Fohleni'll check whats wrong17:41
L3mcemax999: Sounds like a hardware problem... have you run another os?17:41
lawltoadhi lets say i have machines A and B behind a firewall, and an open computer C at home. I want to run an ssh tunnel from B that opens a port on C that forwards to A. any help?17:41
max999l3mce: not yet. could help. the memtest did run for like 12 hours without problems.17:41
bobweaverFohlen,  you read the full page and not just part of it ? like the part that says you need python-dev installed ?17:42
max999l3mce: sometimes its up for a few hours sometimes it goes down within minutes.. no matter what i do on it17:42
Fohlenbobweaver i allready installed it...17:42
L3mcemax999: yeah... forgot that... however on ubuntu it will not ever go 12 hrs without powering off?17:42
Fohleni get errors like "bla is not defined"17:42
Fohlenseems like it includes 3.2 header files17:42
bobweaverFohlen,  pastebin ?17:42
bobweaverFohlen,  or do you have a trunk for code ?17:43
Fohleni have17:43
jribVarazir: is use of "until" documented somewhere?17:43
bobweaverbranch trynk wahtever17:43
Fohlenhttp://xsbs.greghaynes.net/17:43
Fohlenjust try to compile17:43
Fohlenhttp://paste.kde.org/624260/17:43
Fohleni get this error17:43
Fohlenseems like a wrong linking, but I dont get why :/17:43
max999l3mce: on my ubuntu fork i think it never made 12 hours yet :) probably 3-4.17:43
bobweaverFohlen,  brb on phone17:44
Varazirjrib: I haven't checked, I thought it was strait forward shell script17:44
Fohlenkthx, cya17:44
jribVarazir: see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ .  Also, try #upstart17:44
jonny__Need a little help with /home/user-directory on Ubuntu Server 12.10... Have set up as Server NAS with Ubuntu running on CompactFlash card and 2TB storage on raid1. Running "adduser" sets up new accounts on /home/new_user_here but how can I make it so that it sets it up on the raid instead /mnt/md0/ ?17:45
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Guest74405hi can someone help me17:45
MonkeyDustGuest74405  start with a question17:46
Guest74405how to enter console in cs1.6 in wine17:46
bobweaverFohlen,  look at error in compile see the "pycontrol/sbpy.cpp"  make sure that you are importing the right libs for it to decalre its self ?  maybe that is that is all I see17:46
Fohlenbobweaver, I thought that too17:47
Fohlenthe fuck is, under my old ubuntu it worked :/17:47
Fohlen:D17:47
Fohlenthats why I'm asking17:47
max999Guest74405: isnt it ^?17:47
FloodBot1Fohlen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:47
PiciFohlen: Please mind your language here.17:47
jribjonny__: if you always want to have /mnt/md0 serve as /home, then you can just mount it to /home instead.  If you just want this particular user to have his home in /mnt/md0, then you can pass --home to adduser17:47
bobweaverFohlen,  what Pici  that is last warnning17:47
u01010can i use ubuntuone in fedora 17?17:47
jpdsFloodBot1: Looks like a programming error.17:47
jpdsFohlen: You'll have to talk to the code writer.17:48
Fohlenk17:48
jonny__jrib: Thanks! Would you recommend one over the other?17:48
bobweaverFohlen, open up that file and just make sure that inculde dirs are there and they where not re-named if that is ok like jrib  contact upstream devs17:48
Guest74405max999: i dont know where is that button17:48
Guest74405im noob17:48
max999Guest74405: you could check in settings too i guess17:49
max999Guest74405: try the key left from "1!17:49
jribjonny__: both are reasonable solutions, depends on what you want to do17:49
Guest74405when i enter the game console atomaticly opens and when i press ` it closes but wont open again17:50
jribjonny__: by the way, if you choose to mount md0 as /home, then you'll want to copy the existing files in /home to it17:50
Guest74405max999: thats it but it doesnt work17:50
u01010Hi, can i use ubuntuone in fedora?17:51
max999Guest74405: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111618817:51
bgoneed some advice regarding touchpad two-finger tap action on ubuntu 12.04.  i have been able to change the synclient settings TapButton2=2, and it's working fine on closing tabs as well as opening my bookmarks in a new tab. however, when i use the same action (two-finger tap simulating a middle-mouse-click) on webpage hyperlinks, it does not do anything at all, and i have to resort to using right-click and selecting "open in new tab". any good ad17:51
bgovise on how i should fix this?17:51
Guest74405u01010: yes you can17:51
llutzu01010: you can http://www.maxiberta.com.ar/blog/ubuntuone-packages-fedora17:51
Guest74405max999: thanks ill try it17:52
streamHi, Can I get the only ip-address from the dhcp-server, ignoring the other parameters from the server? What needs to change in dhcpclient?17:54
Guest20264hi17:55
streamon ubuntu 11.1017:55
llutzstream: edit the "request", remove all those parameters you don't want17:56
llutzstream: in dhclient.conf it is17:56
streamllutz, thx17:57
killerlibjack-dev package in ubuntu?17:58
jonny__jrib: I see. I think mounting /md0 to /home makes for a more fluid solution going forward. Thanks so much for your input! :)17:58
* killer tried sudo apt-get build-dep vlc17:58
Guest20264ni1 hw to hack FB accnt17:58
jpdsGuest20264: Ha, not here.17:58
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Guest20264wat u mean17:58
Guest20264not here..17:59
PiciGuest20264: we don't support illegal things here.17:59
Guest20264kkkkkkkkk..no prblm..18:00
killerand it's offtopic too ...lol :Guest2026418:00
Guest20264yeah..u r ryt..18:00
Guest20264ni1 knw whr can i get dis info..18:00
OerHeksGuest20264,  facebook knows your ip now.18:00
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Guest20264huh..dnt talk non sense..18:01
DJonesGuest20264: Its not supported in this channel, don't ask again18:01
rosevpquestion connecting to remote ubunto using Xming18:01
Guest20264kkkkk..18:01
Guest20264ovr n out..18:01
rosevpkeep getting "Hung in XOpenDisplay"18:02
BluesKajGuest20264 , and speak proper English ,this isn't a text or IM channel18:02
Guest20264okkkkkk..m leavin bro..18:02
Important_QuestiHello, i have a question about the installtion of ubuntu18:03
AelingilI am trying to have an alias command show "text" then "Command".. Example alias krn "Kernel" uname -r  Every time i try it, i get an error telling me after "Kerne" it cannot run the command. Is there a different way to show text next to a command?18:03
BluesKajImportant_Questi, just ask your question18:03
Important_Questiok18:04
MonkeyDustImportant_Questi  let's hear it18:04
Important_QuestiI want to try ubuntu18:04
Important_Questiand when i install it on a usb stick18:04
Important_Questiwill it write some things to my laptop?18:04
Important_Questii wnat only to try18:04
MonkeyDustImportant_Questi  no18:05
Important_Questisry for my bad english18:05
Important_Questiso it doesnt write anything to my harddrive?18:05
MonkeyDustImportant_Questi  simply install it on a stick and then boor from that stick - use netbootin or so18:05
Important_Questireally NOTHING?18:05
MonkeyDustboot*18:06
Important_Questii wnat to keep my harddrive clean18:07
Important_Questiwhen you are right i will try ubuntu18:07
Jordan_UAelingil: display_kernel() { echo -n 'Kernel: '; uname -r; }18:07
AelingilJordan_U, I will try that, thank you18:08
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Jordan_UAelingil: You're welcome.18:08
Jav77can anyone help me change the size of my display? its not a resolution problem, its a tv size issue. system settings shows its a 72", when it isn't18:08
gulag2012Hi. I was installed a program called click&clean in Firefox, it allows you to run bleachbit after firefox closes. How can I get it to execute. I directed it towards /usr/bin/bleachbit. It18:09
gulag2012It's asking me for an Argument?18:09
Jav77i am using nvidia drivers and there isn't an option to overscan or underscan18:09
K1rkIs there a LightDM PPA available to install newer versions of LightDM on Ubuntu Precise?18:09
Important_Questithanks for your help18:09
Important_Questibye18:09
escottAelingil, you need a bash function for that18:13
urthmoveroff topic. Does anyone have a nice way to stream all their youtube  subscriptions through vlc.  without gabbing the link from each one?  Is  there a playlist generator or something?18:13
Catbuntuhi18:13
savantelitehello18:14
savantelite-help18:14
escottgulag2012, programs like bleachbit don't work on many modern filesystems18:14
gulag2012Huh? I have working. I just don't know how to get it to run like an executable like windows.18:15
RickZillasavantelite: Just ask a question18:15
escottgulag2012, you should configure your firefox to place temp files and such in a tmpfs folder18:15
escottgulag2012, probably doesn't do what you want on NTFS either.18:15
escottgulag2012, you should just create a tmpfs filesystem mount point and point ~/.firefox there18:16
gulag2012I have ext4 on all partitions. Bleachbit runs if I execute it. How can I get a program to run it?18:16
FerkSweWhen did Irc support get removed from Empathy?18:16
Jav77help please18:17
mIRCsera18:17
mIRC!list18:18
ubottumIRC: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:18
kenliki need some help to configure the D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen in ubuntu. Anyone have some tips to start the configuration?18:18
almoxarifegulag2012: a program?18:18
OerHekskenlik, if you don't get responce, try #ubuntu-touch here on #freenode18:19
escottgulag2012, if you are determined to run this bleachbit thing (which seems really silly from a security perspective) you would need to have a daemon that checks running processes looking for firefox-bin, or you could modify the /usr/bin/firefox script to not disown the firefox-bin subprocess and run bleachbit after firefox completes18:20
gulag2012Yes, I installed a firefox addon called click&clean. It would launch janitor just fine. I don't know how to get it to trigger bleachbit. I have the command as /usr/bin/bleachbit. I don't know what to give it for an argument.18:20
nongooglehow do i reformat a bootstick to something not lacking functionality on both linux or other os18:21
egadwWhen will Ubuntu make the shift to systemd?18:21
nongooglesomething i don't have a problem with executing scripts on18:21
escottegadw, not anytime soon'18:21
wachpwnskiyou know how you have to press ctrl+shift then c or p or t18:21
wachpwnskiIn the terminal? How can you get rid of the shift binding?18:22
seednodeSpeaking as a systemd user: I personally have liked it and had no issues, but other people seem to have had some18:22
wachpwnskiso you have to change the stty bindings first?18:22
egadwescott: too bad :(18:23
javier__can anyone help me change the size of my display for a television reporting the wrong size on nvidia 304.6418:23
Ari_AriHi, I´m new on ubuntu, I have an Ubuntu Server with apache2, I have an application running, it was working fine, but I have move it to a new location, and now I can access from any compuert to the application only using the IP address, I cannot use anymore the server name18:26
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BluesKajjavier__, have you checked systemsettings>display & monitor>size & orientation ... I have to ask the obvious first18:27
escottAri_Ari, your router (or whatever provides DNS) needs to be updated18:27
javier__yes. it says monitor is 72". its not18:28
BluesKajwhat about the resolution , javier__?18:28
alo21hi..18:28
alo21where is the html file of firefox's stratpage?18:29
alo21startpage*18:29
javier__i am also using gnome shell18:29
ClientAliveis /opt really the best place to install eclipse. Don't want the older version in the repos. Had problems with current eclipse install. #eclipse pretty dead right now. Anyone?18:30
Ari_Ariescott, i think that the router needs to be updated, but I have been waiting for 3 days18:30
Ari_Ariand I have way to access using the name18:30
ClientAlive*have problems*18:30
Ari_Arithe DNS servers refhresh every day18:30
BluesKajjavier__, which nvidia card ?18:31
nitzerhey! i'm having trouble with my usb remobavle devices being recognized while plugged in ... any idea what could be?18:31
javier__geforce gt64018:31
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javier__and in the NVIDIA X Server settings I have no way to change the monitor scaling, so I am stuck18:33
ClientAlivethx anyway. I gotta do something about this.18:34
javier__i am currently running ubuntu 12.04.1, gnome shell 3.5.4, nviidia 304.64. I need to change the monitor size from 72 to 56".18:38
javier__resolution needs to stay at 1920108018:38
escottjavier__, what does that mean? how are inches part of the display measurements18:39
nongooglei want gparted to make my bootstick something besides vfat :C18:40
javier__system settings is reporting the monitor to be a 72" display. the tv is actually a 56" LCD. So, i have display cutoff all around.18:41
LeidenfrostHi guys. I have to work with an Ubuntu Hardy (and yes, I'm stuck with that version) and for some reason I can't access the ttys. Any help would be appreciated.18:41
javier__the resolution is 1920x1080 as its an hd tv. So I need to change the scaling or some other value so the desktop isn't clipped.18:42
max999leidenfrost: ger?18:42
Leidenfrostmax999: Sry, my knowledge in german is limited to ask for the bathroom18:43
escottjavier__, you have overscan18:43
max999leidenfrost: your name makes me assume :) nevermind, you are trying to change to a tty with ctrl + alt + f[n]?18:43
javier__i dont see hot to change it anywhere18:43
Leidenfrostmax999: oh I see lol. Yeah, I'm trying to access the ttys that way.18:44
grumpyrjjavier__: have you looked at cvt and modelines?18:44
javier__no. how do i do that?18:44
grumpyrjwith google, I mean.18:45
max999Leidenfrost: pretending to be smart and just copying out of google: In your /etc/X11/xorg.conf have you accidentally set the Option DontVTSwitch to True in the ServerFlags section?18:46
Leidenfrostmax999: That's a good one. But no.18:47
savidHi, I need to apply a simple patch to my kernel (drivers/hid/hid-core.c).  Are there any instructions available on the best way to make such a change?18:47
escottLeidenfrost, nvidia proprietary drivers?18:47
jonny__FerkSwe: hejja sverige i forumet?18:47
Leidenfrostescott: Neither. It's a VMware guest.18:48
savidOh, nm, found it.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile18:48
max999Leidenfrost: ah in a vm..18:48
max999Leidenfrost: windows key + ctrl + alt + f..18:48
nvlHello. I have a problem. It seems that your 32bit package for orc (http://code.entropywave.com/orc/) is broken and I couldn't compile a file. It seems that the issue is solved, so I had to clone it form git and install it, but it gives me an error when I try `./autogen.sh`: `./autogen.sh: 7: ./autogen.sh: autoreconf: not found`18:48
Leidenfrostmax999: No good. :(18:49
max999Leidenfrost: but its the answer :l :)18:49
nvlWhat should I do to fix it? I have followed these instructions - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo18:50
max999Leidenfrost: http://communities.vmware.com/thread/29503418:50
max999Leidenfrost: with ctrl + alt you ungrab your vm. change the shortcut18:50
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DWSRcan someone help me with mdadm? I'm trying to create a stripe of 2 disks nested inside of a mirror.18:50
escottDWSR, why not just use the build in raid1018:50
DWSRBecause I don't have enough devices.18:50
DWSRRaid 10 requires 4.18:51
DWSRI only have 3.18:51
javier__how do i change overscan values?18:51
DWSRAnd 2 of them are smaller than the third.18:51
escottjavier__, there are various modeline generators out there18:51
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Leidenfrostmax999: I'll try that.18:53
dr_willisjavier__: what video chipset18:53
javier__ok. what do I with that?18:53
nvlI have a problem trying to compile a program. Can anyone help me, please?18:53
heoyea_nop18:54
lucidodudes, how do I achieve gmail notifications in the status bar?18:54
grumpyrjjavier__: so xorg uses some default values. you can generate your own modelines if xorg gets it wrong and put them in your xorg conf file. cvt is a program that generates modelines.18:54
javier__I am using an nvidia geforce gt 640 with driver version 304.6418:54
escottDWSR, ok. then i guess just create the array across the different md devices18:55
heoyea_lucido: install gmail-notify18:55
dr_willis javier__ the nvidia-settings tool has an overscan settings feature18:55
javier__when I was using the ATI card, there was a simple option to change the scaling value. Now, with the NVIDIA, I am not finding such a solution18:55
DWSRescott: So just create the first array than the second?18:55
escottDWSR, im not clear on what you are proposing to do18:55
lucidoheoyea_, I shall do so immediately18:55
DWSRescott: (A+B)=C in terms of size.18:55
DWSRescott: I'm trying to mirror (A+B) and C.18:56
DWSRSo I need to create a stripe on (A+B) first.18:56
CrazyZurferhello guys!, my unity interface works pretty slow for me, when I open a program, it takes a while to start, I'm sick of this cuz my notebook has 4 GB of ram but an 1,3 GHZ processor, anyway to speed it up or change the interface for a lighter one?18:56
escottDWSR, so C is twice the size of A or B18:56
javier__i followed the online instructions from x-swat and am wondering where the overscan vlaues are or where I can simply change the display size.18:56
DWSRYes.18:56
DWSRescott: ^^18:56
DWSRCrazyZurfer: XFCE is much lighter than Unity.18:57
DWSRCrazyZurfer: Also, 1.3GHz is a fairly slow processor.18:57
Leidenfrostmax999: do you know how to change the deattach keys in vmware esxi?18:57
escottDWSR, the configuration i would recommend is to mirror A to the first half of C, and B to the second half, then you can LVM across the two md arrays18:57
DWSRThat seems very....unclean.18:57
escottDWSR, stripping A and B and then mirroring is going to reduce reliability and have more overhead18:58
CrazyZurferDWSR: it's because i have an ultrabook, but one of the firts, its an intel centrino 2, 1,3GHZ dual core18:58
grumpyrjwipe the raid and move to lvm entirely18:58
LeidenfrostDWSR: that's the slowest cpu still being usable for internet.18:58
javier__the television is set to "justscan" so I am lost18:58
grumpyrjah, the minimum internet specs18:58
Leidenfrostgrumpyrj: lol yea18:58
max999Leidenfrost: not rly, try in ~/.vmware/preferences or something similar :)18:59
pablo_any good linux beginner tutorials?19:00
DWSRescott: Ok, I'll do that, but I'm having a problem with apt.19:00
max999pablo_, lots of19:00
max999question answered, next19:00
max999;D19:00
DWSRescott: http://pastebin.com/AKVtwk6v19:00
pablo_hahaha19:00
javier__i have not run the additional driver update from the system settings19:00
AminosAmigospablo_,  site du zero (french )19:00
dr_willispablo_: see wgats most tagged with those tags at  delicious.com   is what i do.19:01
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max999pablo_, http://bit.ly/OWP1Cb19:01
dr_willisjavier__: i set my tv to use no overscan.19:02
RJ45I need an FTP server with a GUI for Ubu 10.04.4, HIT MEH19:02
pablo_o rigth boys19:02
bl4ckdu5tcan anyone tell me about the RFID tools on BT519:02
max999RJ45, filezilla?19:02
DWSRRJ45: Filezilla.19:02
CrazyZurferDWSR: don't understand how to install it :S19:02
pablo_thanx19:02
javier__overscan from the pc19:02
max999DWSR, i win19:02
raymondjtothhi any one use wubi here?19:02
RJ45does Filezille double as a server?19:02
DWSRCrazyZurfer: Should be able to just apt-get install xubuntu19:03
RJ45zilla*19:03
DWSRRJ45: There's a server package for it19:03
max999RJ45, double? you can use it as a server19:03
DWSRescott: Any suggestions on that pastebin?19:03
raymondjtothi use wube19:03
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max999RJ45, it doesnt support sftp though. but ftps :)19:03
CrazyZurferDWSR: and nothing happens with the ubuntu updates later?19:03
raymondjtothwhen i use wubi i get grldr err whats up19:03
RJ45DWSR: and it's ALL GUI?, including setup/config?19:03
raymondjtoth?19:03
escottDWSR, try the suggested instruction, update your packages, disable any ppas19:03
DWSRRJ45: Yes.19:04
DWSRCrazyZurfer: No.19:04
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DWSRescott: I did update my packages.19:04
jonny__pablo_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/ubuntu-made-easy-book-review19:04
RJ45kick-ass! I'll go try it. thanks guys!19:04
RJ45:-)19:04
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raymondjtothany one know why i goyo book wubi i get grldr err?19:04
DWSRescott: That happened after I did an apt-get upgrade19:05
DWSRescott: So I'm not really sure why the hell it broke so hard.19:05
CrazyZurferDWSR: apt-get didn't found xubuntu :S19:05
DWSRCrazyZurfer: Sorry, it's xubuntu-desktop19:05
CrazyZurferDWSR: Thanks.. -> installind :D!19:06
CrazyZurferinstalling*19:06
pablo_thank u jonnyu_19:07
raymondjtothhi im tryingyo install wubi [13:00] <raymondjtoth> and get boot err whats up [13:01] <raymondjtoth> get err grldr19:08
nongooglehow2maek gparted editor able to reformat bootstick :V19:08
bl4ckdu5twhat is the channel for bt5 users19:09
ouyeshello, is there anyone get the nvidia driver work on ubuntu amd64 12.04?19:09
AminosAmigosbl4ckdu5t,  backtrack-linux (you could find it in the website)19:09
almoxarifeouyes: what have you tried so far?19:10
ouyesalmoxarife, I try to install nvidia -current and download the package for the official website both failed19:11
almoxarifeouyes: what went wrong with -current?19:11
RJ45how do I make Filezilla a server?19:11
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ouyesalmoxarife, nothing wrong , but after a reboot you will get a resolution of 800x64019:12
almoxarifeRJ45: its a client19:12
RJ45almoxarife: I was told it can be turned into server19:12
AminosAmigosafaik you use filezilla to connect to an FTP server19:13
RJ45FTP server*19:13
almoxarifeouyes: did you try to change the resolution via the config(gui)19:13
pablo_Brazilian Jiujitsu and Ubuntu rock19:13
RJ45pablo_: how would one combine those?19:13
almoxarifeRJ45: plain jane ftp? install ftpd, you might want something a bit more secure19:14
raymondjtothanyone good with wubi here?19:14
pablo_easy just practice them both.....19:14
RJ45almoxarife: I'm only using it for a test on my network, so plain FTP will do, also how would I de-activate FTP once I'm done?19:14
ouyesalmoxarife, it informs like you have not enable the nvidia driver19:15
raymondjtothany one good with wubi19:15
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RJ45my network being a LAN19:15
ouyesalmoxarife, and suggest you sudo nvidia-xorg19:15
almoxarifeRJ45: un-install ftpd19:15
raymondjtoth?19:15
escottRJ45, do you not have openssh already installed?19:15
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RJ45almoxarife: anything simpler19:15
RJ45escott: not sure, why?19:16
almoxarifeRJ45: simpler? cans and a string?19:16
MonkeyDustraymondjtoth  wubi is not something to be 'good at', it's purpose is to get used to the ubuntu interface19:16
escottRJ45, if you do you can just use sftp19:16
raymondjtothMonkeyDust: im ge3tting grldr err when book using wubi19:16
biebbobweaver: you still here?19:16
raymondjtothwhy is thiss ancdxs how i gfix it19:16
raymondjtothfix it19:16
RJ45escott: with Filezilla?19:17
almoxarifeRJ45: filezilla is a client19:17
MonkeyDustraymondjtoth  don't struggle with wubi, install ubuntu on its own partition, next to windows, not inside it19:17
RJ45almoxarife: which can be turned into server!19:17
raymondjtothMonkeyDust: what i do thanks19:17
RJ45I need GUI19:17
escottRJ45, filezilla supports sftp19:17
raymondjtothmon i wan to uyi wubi19:17
almoxarifeRJ45: ok, so you answered your own question19:17
max999filezilla does NOT support sftp, its ftps it supports.19:18
RJ45almoxarife: I'm sure it can be used with FTP, but I'm not sure about SFTP, which it WHY I ASKED19:18
RJ45it = is*19:18
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RJ45max999: okay19:19
almoxarifeRJ45: filezilla works with sftp, the only diff is the port19:19
raymondjtothMonkeyDust: understand19:19
RJ45gotta go, back later mayber19:19
max999rj45: maybe im wrong if ppl insist on sftp here. but i found this reply on google recently myself :)19:19
escottRJ45, as a client filezilla supports sftp, as a server you would be expected to use your openssh-server install for sftp19:20
bulletrulzHello19:20
almoxarifetroll!19:20
phunyguy_workbulletrulz, I thought you got banned? o.O19:20
PiciRJ45: please use complete words. I for one cannot understand what you are saying.19:20
PiciRJ45: sorry, mistab.19:20
bulletrulzphunyguy_work, He Unbanned me19:20
Piciraymondjtoth: please use complete words. I for one cannot understand what you are saying.19:20
max999almoxarife, we are talking about the server not the client.19:20
max999the client does support sftp19:21
bulletrulzi am using Lubuntu 12.10 and when i try to change the window border it changes the color of the buttons but not the acctully buttons!19:21
almoxarifemax999: filezilla supports sftp, yes19:21
max999almoxarife, the server doesnt. prove me wrong plz :)19:21
almoxarifemax999: what server?19:21
max999almoxarife, the filezilla server.19:21
raymondjtoth2MonkeyDust: sorry got kicked under differnt nick19:21
almoxarifemax999: i dont know what a filezilla server is, i have used the client though19:22
biebI installed 12.04 server, I need gui for one of the people that will be using server.. I did apt-get install xinit, when I startx I get a small white box in the upper left with a command prompt.. any ideas?19:22
bulletrulzHello! D:19:22
max999almoxarife, there is a filezilla ftp server version too, thats what rj45 was asking about :)19:22
almoxarifemax999: yes, he said so, and i asked then why he was asking, seems he knew the answer19:23
phunyguy_workbieb, perhaps you are looking for a desktop environment to use? like LXDE? or XFCE?19:23
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almoxarife!filezilla19:23
aaasbieb you need a window manager install lxde or xfce4 etc19:23
almoxarife!info filezilla19:24
ubottufilezilla (source: filezilla): Full-featured graphical FTP/FTPS/SFTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.3-2ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 1234 kB, installed size 3021 kB19:24
max999rj45: you can use ftps, security level is the same. sftp is easier to manager for network administrators though as it uses 1 port instead of 2. :)19:24
almoxarifeubot thinks its a client, i am with ubot19:24
biebaaas and phunyguy_work: are they both similar? one need more resources than the other?19:24
max999almoxarife, there is filezilla client and filazilla server ;-)) you prob were not in when rj45 asked about a ftp server initially.19:25
Picialmoxarife, max999: filezilla server is only available on windows.19:25
aaasbieb depends on what your needs are, feature, cpu, memory.... google for comparisions there are very detailed comparisions on the web19:25
phunyguy_workas far as I can tell, FileZilla server is just widoze.19:25
aaasbieb and many many other options19:25
almoxarifePici: must install windoz, i am missing something important :)19:25
phunyguy_workbieb - LXDE is smaller and more lightweight19:25
biebaaas: thanks19:26
biebphunyguy_work: thanks19:26
younderI usencftp19:26
max999Pici, could be, used it on windows servers yet. dwrs answered with filezilla on the server question too and noone denied it :)19:27
youndernautilus is the nix gui file browser19:27
jonny__jrib: Re-mounting md0 to /home was as easy as quick edit in /etc/rc.local. However, did miss something on the way and had to sudo chown -R username:username /home/username/ to get back ownership from root. Works perfect now! Thanks again!19:27
almoxarifemax999: i did19:27
escottRJ45, max999i was suggesting sftp because he likely already has openssh-server installed so its one less thing for him to do when he is done with his temporary need for ftp19:27
jribjonny__: you should be using /etc/fstab, no?  I actually don't know how to properly deal with raid19:27
bulletrulzi have another probelm19:28
younderjrib used that just the other day setting up NFS19:28
MonkeyDustjonny__  is it a server?19:28
bulletrulzi accedently created 2 docks for awn and now cant get rid of it!19:28
phunyguy_workbulletrulz, kill one?19:29
bulletrulzhow? phunyguy_work19:29
phunyguy_workuse the xkill command, and click one of them with the cursor19:29
bulletrulzok19:29
younderbulletrulz, ctrl-alt-t cd <dir< and then rm <file> and exit19:29
jribjonny__: do you currently have an entry for md0 in your /etc/fstab?19:30
jonny__jrib: You are right, one should use /etc/fstab. However, if fstab fails during boot, nothing will boot at all and you are left with a non-responsive box. If you let /etc/fstab do general boot procedure and then /etc/rc.local take care of mounting your raid, then at least there's less complexities during boot.19:30
younderjrib: no19:30
phunyguy_workyounder, I think he meant he had two running.19:30
bulletrulzNOO!!!19:31
bulletrulznow i cant start it19:31
bulletrulznvm19:31
younderjrib: You are wrong. It will boot. at statup it will ask if you wnat to skip if you do it wrong.19:31
jribyounder: :x19:31
bulletrulzfixed it thank u guys !19:32
bulletrulz:D19:32
younderjrib: But I did it wron once and I could still boot and fix it19:32
jribyounder: I think you're addressing the wrong person19:32
jonny__jrib: Unless you have some app or something on the raid that depends on startup functions. I don't have an entry in fstab, no.19:32
phunyguy_workyounder, not if you are SSHd in and the server is remote.19:32
phunyguy_workif so, you cannot boot.19:32
phunyguy_workask me how I know.19:32
jonny__jrib: solely relying on /etc/rc.local to mount the raid119:33
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younderjrib: Anyhow you can mount --bind as well. no need per se to put it in fstab19:33
almoxarifephunyguy_work: ok, how do you know?19:34
phunyguy_workif a disk doesn't mount properly within fstab, it will not boot without user interaction.19:34
phunyguy_work(iirc)19:34
ubuntuhey19:34
phunyguy_work...because I've had it happen.19:34
phunyguy_workfor example, in an upgrade, /dev/md0 became /dev/md127 - yay, of course fstab still said /dev/md019:35
ChipsChallengeTrying Linux for the first time in years. Fuduntu acutally, which still uses gnome2. One minor thing that bugs the hell out of me is that when you have a fullscreen window, you cant click the scrollbar by simply clicking along the rightmost edge of the screen <you hit the window border instead>...19:35
jribjonny__: apparently there's a "nobootwait" option you can use in fstab.  Anyway, I'm not sure what standard practice is for dealing with raid, I just mention fstab so you look into it and try to find what best practices are considered19:35
ChipsChallengeis it like that on most ubuntu based desktops, or on gnome in general is it just a fuduntu thing?19:35
escott!uuid | phunyguy_work19:35
ubottuphunyguy_work: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)19:35
phunyguy_workescott yes, and I know that now, however, most beginner raid guides that noobs follow, don't know about it.19:36
almoxarifei am becoming more more a believer in uuid19:36
RJ45what package do I need to install in order to use Filezilla as an FTP SERVER?19:36
phunyguy_workor dont mention it, therefore you have fstab errors when you upgrade and the device changes19:36
escottphunyguy_work, i have no idea who you are talking to19:36
Mingo__escott:19:37
almoxarifeRJ45: you would need to install wine(maybe)19:37
phunyguy_workjrib and younder19:37
DWSRRJ45: It would appear that Filezilla server isn't available for Linux.19:37
phunyguy_work(escott)19:37
DWSRRJ45: If you're looking for FTP, I would recommend SSH.19:37
DWSRerr.19:37
DWSRRJ45: I would recommend SFTP (which is FTP over SSH)19:37
RJ45damit19:37
RJ45I REALLY want a GIU though19:37
RJ45GUI*19:38
DWSRRJ45: Then you're on the wrong operating syste.19:38
almoxarifeRJ45: wine, then find filezilla-server for windoz19:38
almoxarifethen pray it all works19:38
DWSRRJ45: I hate to be an elitist about it, but if you're not comfortable doing at least a few things command line, you shouldn't be running Linux for a server.19:38
DWSRRJ45: Keyboard cowboys still rule the Linux world.19:38
DWSRRJ45: That's not to say that you need to have an intimate knowledge of every scripting/programming language, a math degree and a vinyl pocket protector in order to run things, but you need to be comfortable with running on a command line or in a text-only environment in order to do some administration tasks.19:39
almoxarifecowboys ride keyboards, it was going to happen soonoer or later19:40
DWSRRJ45: Besides, FTP is horrible.19:40
DWSRRJ45: SFTP is at least secure.19:40
DWSRRJ45: And NFS is at least fast.19:40
DWSRRJ45: Depending on your needs, you should pick either the former (for remote work) or the later (for internal).19:40
almoxarifeDWSR: what about 'fish'?19:40
DWSRYou almost certainly already have OpenSSH installed on your server, and if you don't, it's a single command away and you get sensible defaults.19:41
RJ45which one has the least overhead?19:41
DWSRRJ45: What is your use case? I probably missed it.19:41
DWSRRJ45: what are you trying to do?19:41
RJ45LAN Ubuntu to Ubuntu19:41
DWSRNFS.19:41
RJ45just doing a few tests19:41
DWSRYou want NFS.19:42
DWSRSo hard in the face it hurts.19:42
phunyguy_worklol19:42
RJ45okay, thanks!19:42
RJ45:)19:42
DWSRI'm even using NFS Windows to Ubuntu19:42
DWSRJust because Samba is that much of a flaming pile of monkey manure.19:42
RJ45hmm19:42
phunyguy_workDWSR, any issues with UID and GID mapping?19:42
phunyguy_workI remember that being a pain when I tried it with windows.19:43
DWSRphunyguy_work: Not overly, I'm pretty sure that I'm running my NFS server ina  pretty poor configuration though.19:43
RJ45any GUI based NFS?19:43
DWSRphunyguy_work: It certainly seems a little kludgey, but it works and well.19:43
DWSRRJ45: No. NFS is meant to be very no nonsense.19:43
DWSRRJ45: Edit /etc/exports and start the NFS daemon./19:43
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phunyguy_work!nfs19:43
ubottunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.19:43
RJ45okay, do you think if I look in the man files I'll be okay on my own?19:44
RJ45...when it comes to configuration19:44
phunyguy_workRJ45, read ubottu's link19:44
DWSRphunyguy_work: I can basically max the throughput of my disks with NFS, so I'm not complaining. I'm even running ZoL underneat of it.19:44
phunyguy_worknice, DWSR19:44
DWSRRJ45: Read the link Ubotu gave. You'll be fine. It's literally a 5 minute process front to back.19:44
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RJ45shweet19:44
almoxarifeRJ45: the least config is ssh(sftpd)19:44
RJ45thanks for the help guys, although now my face hurts :P19:44
DWSRphunyguy_work: Yeah, if I had money and things, I'd be running bonded 10GigE into my server with jumbo frames.19:45
DWSRphunyguy_work: But right now I'm just running GigE over Cat5E and it works well. Still around 25MB/s.19:45
phunyguy_workwouldn't we all, DWSR19:45
DWSRWhich is pretty close to what I'd get local transfer anyway.19:45
phunyguy_workI'm still on 100 meg and wireless g.19:45
DWSRphunyguy_work: Ick.19:45
phunyguy_workYes.19:45
DWSRI have my entire network infrastructure mounted underneath my desk.19:45
DWSRMy desktop and server are hardwired to a GigE router.19:46
phunyguy_workDWSR, I have been planning an upgrade, but funds always get diverted.19:46
jonny__jrib: took general queues from https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/advanced-installation.html and the tidbit about fstab during boot from http://www.iceteks.com/articles.php/linuxmdadmraid/2 I'm not a sysadm, just wanted roll my own Ubuntu Server for SoHo NAS purposes. Good advice though to educate more about best practices.19:46
phunyguy_workthis is !ot though19:46
almoxarifei have a serial connection to my toaster19:46
DWSRphunyguy_work: My modem is actually across the house, connected via Powerline ethernet.19:46
DWSRphunyguy_work: *shrug*, we're helping as well.19:46
phunyguy_workwe can discuss further in #ubuntu-offtopic19:46
phunyguy_workI don't feel like getting yelled at right now :)19:46
RJ45I read the page on the other end of that link, what I read made be cry :(19:49
RJ45I'll never understand this stuff19:49
RJ45made me*19:49
DWSRRJ45: err, what?19:49
DWSRThe top section is all you need to read.19:50
RJ45(didn't really make me cry, but nearly)19:50
DWSRThere's like...what? 4 commands?19:50
ChipsChallengeWhen running a fullscreen browser window in fuduntu, and clicking the rightmost side of the screen, you don't hit the scrollbar...is it like that on most ubuntu based desktops, or on gnome in general is it just a fuduntu thing?19:50
graChe28hi i've installed xfce4 via apt-get, and it's missing power manager from the setting menu (read I can't get it to shut the screen off after inactivity) how can i get the power manager setting back?19:50
ChipsChallengethat's usually how I scroll on my netbook..just move the cursor right until it hits the screen's edge and then click the scrollbar. But on fuduntu, that doesn't work.. could you check if it's the same in your distro?19:51
DWSRRJ45: apt-get install nfs-kernel-server && mkdir -p /export/users && mount --bind /home/users /export/users && echo '/home/users /export/users none bind 0 0' >> /etc/fstab19:51
DWSRJust run that as root.19:51
DWSRYou have NFS.19:51
DWSRgg19:51
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DWSRBy default that configuration will export all of your users' home directories via NFS.19:51
RomeoAvaBack, I need to fix the comp now. It's very uncomfortable to use it in low resolution display, the video projector can't be detected19:52
RJ45lol I like to download packages, them run them, soI have an archive for when I ever need to install again19:52
ActionParsnipChipsChallenge: fuduntu isn't supported here.....19:52
RJ45then*19:52
ActionParsnipRJ45: that is the default behaviour19:52
DWSRRJ45: apt-get install downloads the package and caches it.19:52
RJ45my keyboard is plotting against me19:52
DWSRIt already does what you're doing, except automatically.19:52
ActionParsnipRJ45: look in /var/cache/apt/archives19:52
DWSR^^19:52
bulletrulz hello19:53
RJ45ActionParsnip: I know, I still feel safe this way19:53
RJ45safer*19:53
ChipsChallengeActionParsnip: thinking about switching to ubuntu, so just wanted to check if ubuntu has the same scrollbar 'issue'19:53
ActionParsnipRJ45: you are doing something the OS already does, its not safer in any way, but if it makes you happy then fill your boots19:53
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ActionParsnipChipsChallenge: I suggest you run it in a liveCD desktop and see if you like it ;)19:54
RJ45where the commands say "/home/users" and "/export/users" do I actually put '/users' or do I replace that part with something?19:54
younderRJ45: NFS right19:55
ActionParsnipRJ45: you can use the shorthand '~'  to mean /home/$USER   or you can also use $HOME19:55
RJ45younder: yes NFS19:55
ActionParsnipah, never mind19:55
RJ45shorthand?19:56
younderRJ45: That part s fin it is that IP part that must change. use ifconfig to seee what your current IP address is. Or Newwork Information connections19:56
ActionParsnipRJ45: yes, instead of typing cd /home/username/Downloads     you can type: cd ~/Downloads19:56
wapmorganhi guys. don't anybody know why alx driver isn't included into the linux kernel? // I apologize for my English19:57
younderNever use relative path in a startup script. see dan farmer protecting your system by breaking into it19:57
RJ45ActionParsnip: I never know that, and have needed something like that for a lot of my BASH scripts!, that is a SEXY command!, thanks!19:58
RJ45knew*19:58
bulletrulzhi19:58
bulletrulznow to my main problem i have a problem with the icons of the window bordor!19:59
RomeoAvain Software source/Other Software I have to many lines, some are not check ed. I don't know  which  to be checked.19:59
RomeoAvaI want to clean all of them and update the source.list20:00
RJ45how do I disable NFS when I don't want it no more?20:02
RomeoAvaThe Source code is not checked, in Software Sources. That's good?20:02
jav77hello, I checked the configuration on the Windows 7 side, and nvidia is set to 1882x1048 pixels. Currently, my nvidia driver 304.64 for the geforce gt 640 is set to 1920x1080 (same as my cable box),and the system settings say 72" TV (which is wrong). How can I change the resolution to 1880x1048 in ubuntu 12.04.1 (gnome shell 3.5.4)?20:03
max999how to find out about my netbooks fans? i get some lines with cooling when i run lm-sensors .. i dont have much in /proc/acpi20:03
david201is there any chat room about java troubleshooting ?20:03
max999david201, probe me20:04
almoxarifeRomeoAva: that is good, yes20:04
david201max999 Okey, my problem is: when I apply a certain pattern which uses a certain delimiters the method split doesn't split at all20:04
max999david201, lets go to dialog20:05
david201okey20:05
RJ45jav77: I'd say 1920x1080 is more a correct resolution than 1882x1048.20:05
jav77yes, I agree, but I can't overscan or underscan so I cannot see the menu bar or side docks. So I need a way to change the size of the display20:06
AelingilI am trying to have an ALIAS COMMAND show "text" then "Command".. Example alias krn "Kernel" uname -r  Every time i try it, i get an error telling me after "Kerne" it cannot run the command. Is there a different way to show text next to a command when calling aliases?20:06
escottAelingil, you have been given the answer20:07
Sab3rany idea why my right mouse click doesnt work?20:07
bjrohanI just did an upgrade, and now I can not enable my wireless network card, help is greatly appreciated. I can not even turn it on via the keyboard on my Dell (fn + F10)20:08
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Aelingilescott,  I tried your answer, when i type in krn it does not run. and when i reload my terminal i get errors. So either i typed it out wrong. Or the command does not fit into the aliases i have.20:09
bjrohanescott: Any ideas how to turn my wireless network radio back on? After an upgrade today + restart it is no longer working20:09
escottAelingil, it cannot be done with an alias. it has to be a function. if you want us to look at the function you need to show it20:09
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escottbjrohan, check rfkill20:11
ehazlettgreetings.. i'm on 10.04 - i have firefox installed.  if i try to install flashplugin-installer,  it says it will remove firefox -- any ideas?20:11
Aelingilescott, Ah.. i did not get that info last time.. I was not doing functions i was messing with some Aliases to speed up what i'm typing out.20:11
Aelingilescott, again, thank you for your time :)20:12
jribehazlett: run sudo apt-get update, then pastebin the full output of your command when you attempt to install flashplugin-installer20:12
DarkKnightCZhi, is there a chance how to retrieve document, when it was "rewriten" and libreoffice has been closed?20:12
bjrohanescott: sudo rfkill list all: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428273/20:13
almoxarifeDarkKnightCZ: look in /tmp20:14
pawlo_231hi, is there any way to control sound blaster x-fi?20:14
pawlo_231it's working out of the box, but I can't configure it20:14
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jribDarkKnightCZ: libreoffice usually offers to recover a document when you first start it up if it crashed or was killed in a "strange" way20:15
DarkKnightCZit wasnt crashed, it was closed normally20:15
jribDarkKnightCZ: and you saved your changes?  Now you want to undo the save?20:15
DarkKnightCZyeah, exactly like that... libreoffice should keep that 15 minutes backup20:16
ehazlettjrib: https://gist.github.com/427117220:16
jribDarkKnightCZ: I don't know if it saves the undo history, but I assume you've opened the document up again and don't see the ability to undo.  You might try asking in #libreoffice20:17
DarkKnightCZok20:17
jribehazlett: apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer firefox20:17
ehazlettjrib: https://gist.github.com/427118720:18
pinguyhow do you login as root20:18
ikoniapinguy: using ping OS ?20:18
ViaNocturna85pinguy: dont, use sudo20:18
jribehazlett: probably some issue with the packaging.  What's the output of: apt-cache show flashplugin-installer20:19
jav77anyone have any ideas? I can't believe I can't set the scan values in the nvidia settings20:19
sarahSpinguy: that's a really bad idea20:19
TheLordOfTime!root | pinguy20:19
RomeoAvaI cleaned the Duplicate from Other Software but the eror is the same: duplicate20:19
ubottupinguy: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo20:19
TheLordOfTime!sudo | pinguy20:19
ubottupinguy: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo20:19
CatbuntuCiao20:19
RomeoAvaW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)20:19
RomeoAvaW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-i386_Packages)20:19
RomeoAvaW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems20:19
ehazlettjrib: https://gist.github.com/427120520:19
TheLordOfTime!pastebin | RomeoAva20:19
ikoniamaybe it helps if you check what actual OS he's using20:19
ubottuRomeoAva: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:19
ikoniaall the clones don't have the same sudo model before hitting him with random factoids20:20
sarahSdoes anyone know an image viewer app that can play animated gifs full screen?20:20
TheLordOfTimegood point...20:20
TheLordOfTimeikonia, if he's using any Ubuntu distribution (which we assume because he's in this channel) those factoids apply.20:20
TheLordOfTimeno?20:20
ViaNocturna85ikonia: I thought he meant in Ubuntu since he asked it here, never heard of Ping OS20:20
ikoniaTheLordOfTime: no20:20
ikoniaTheLordOfTime: as it's a variant and some of them change things, especially around the sudo rules20:21
jribehazlett: hmm, what's this do: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer firefox20:21
ikoniaViaNocturna85: its a sloppy distro, they don't appear to have changed the default xchat channel from #ubuntu to pingos channel20:21
hornoliogood morning20:21
ehazlettjrib: http://d.pr/i/LOII20:22
hornolioi got a prolem i want to use ubuntu routing technique but not with those nasty 10.42.0.1 range, i got every where 192.168.0.x20:22
ViaNocturna85ikonia: It makes the support here a little difficult lol20:22
ehazlettjrib: so i probably just need to specify a specific version20:22
RomeoAvaPlease help me to fix that bug now. I trayed for 3 days already20:22
RomeoAvaI'm here for that, waiting some instructions20:23
TheLordOfTimeRomeoAva, pastebin your sources.list20:23
pochefuokgood evening20:23
RomeoAvaI done http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/20:23
jribehazlett: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list20:23
RomeoAvaand nothing20:23
ViaNocturna85pochefuok: hello20:23
GandalfBHey Guys,  are there any Lampp experts here that can help with my lampp install on ubuntu20:23
ikoniaGandalfB: what are you not clear on ?20:23
jrib!info flashplugin-installer lucid20:24
ubottuflashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.238ubuntu0.10.04.1 (lucid), package size 20 kB, installed size 116 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)20:24
GandalfBHi Ikonia20:24
jribehazlett: see, you should have 11.2... available20:24
GandalfBI'm trying to enable the curl extention20:24
RomeoAvai have pastebinit20:24
jribehazlett: could be your mirror20:24
ikoniaGandalfB: the curl extention in what ?20:24
GandalfBin php5 I think20:25
ehazlettjrib: https://gist.github.com/427125620:25
ikoniaGandalfB: ok....go on20:25
ehazlettjrib: probably the ec2 mirror20:25
ikoniaexplain your issue20:25
GandalfBI've uncommented extension=php_curl.dll on my php.ini - as per instructions20:25
RomeoAvasudo apt-get update pastebinit20:25
GandalfBbut when I restert my lamp webserver20:25
jribehazlett: you can throw lucid-updates multiverse into your sources.list if you want.  But it doesn't seem like you should need to according to ubottu20:25
ikoniaGandalfB: what instructions are you using ?20:25
GandalfBit starts up fine20:25
ehazlettjrib: ok20:26
jribehazlett: changing mirror will probably resolve the issue (try)20:26
GandalfBbut the files are not being served.  its downloading index.php when I goto localhost20:26
gandhijee_hello.  does anyone know how to change the color depth with an xorg.conf file or having to restart X?20:26
GandalfBafter un comment it20:26
GandalfBI find the instructions20:26
GandalfBnow20:26
GandalfBone sec20:26
FloodBot1GandalfB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:26
ikoniaGandalfB: ok - that doesn't sound like anything to do with curl20:27
ikoniaGandalfB: that sounds like you don't have the php module enabled in apache and/or you don't have the extension .php set in the application handler in apache20:27
aaaswhat's going on here:  http://pastebin.com/9jx6Vfyt  I can't find a process idea for a running process... could this be upstart related?20:28
ehazlettjrib: yep adding lucid-updates worked -- thx!20:28
RomeoAva<TheLordOfTime> ho to do pastebinit, please20:29
RomeoAvait is sometink like sudo apt-get update pastebinit20:29
PiciRomeoAva: sudo apt-get install pastebinit20:29
RomeoAvathanks pici20:29
RomeoAvapici I nhave it20:30
RomeoAvaI want to have the raport from Terminal20:30
GandalfBThese are the instructions I'm following - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3020049/how-to-enable-curl-in-xampp20:30
ikoniaGandalfB: that is not lamp20:31
PiciRomeoAva: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list20:31
ikoniaGandalfB: that is xammp20:31
marianneanyone know if 5.1 surround sound can be set up on 12.04... I'm open to buying a new sound card20:31
RomeoAvapici ok20:31
ikoniaGandalfB: hence why it says "xampp" not "lamp"20:31
PiciGandalfB: Did you install xampp? or did you install apache2 from our software repositories?20:31
bobweaverDoes anyone know how to add a setting to dbus like if I want to add option for" com.canonical.Unity.Launcher" " color " thanks20:31
ActionParsnipaaas: try:  ps -ef | grep tv      instead of:  ps -A | grep tvheadend20:31
RomeoAva<TheLordOfTime>   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428315/20:32
GandalfBikonia, I'm trying to find some reliable instructions on how to enable / install it.   From the reading I've done it seemed like it was pre-packeds with LAMPP (Xampp for linux).   I 'm wonderng if I'm wasting time with Lammp and whether it would be simpler to install apache, php etc seperatly20:32
aaasActionParsnip same thing  (only shows the grep command)20:32
bobweaveraaas, what about    ps aux | grep tv20:32
ikoniaGandalfB: the product is called "LAMP" not "LAMPP" - you may find better results if you use the right name to search20:32
RomeoAva<TheLordOfTime> I done http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/20:32
aaasbobweaver same thing20:32
ikoniaGandalfB: xammpp works different than a LAMP install20:32
bobweaveraaas, then it is not running ?20:33
ikoniaxammp even20:33
GandalfBI installed LAMPP from http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#37720:33
ikoniaxampp20:33
RomeoAvathere is no any duplicate but the eror is stil there20:33
aaasbobweaver then why does 'start' say it is?20:33
david201Ubuntu or devian for desktop low knowledged users?20:33
ActionParsnipaaas: does servce have a verbose option?20:33
ikoniaGandalfB: what part of "it's called LAMP" am I not making clear, anything not called LAMP is different20:33
GandalfBbut I've been struggling to find relavent help for lampp, which tells me how to enable curl20:33
ikoniaGandalfB: hence why that URL says "xampp"20:33
Piciikonia: apachefriends calls their install LAMPP20:33
aaasActionParsnip  ill have to look into that20:33
ikoniaPici: yes, but this is not a "LAMP" install20:34
RomeoAvaand the problem is the same. the comp is not opening, stais in purple color. I need to reboot 2-3 times and goes in low resolution20:34
ikoniaits even called xampp in the URL20:34
aaasActionParsnip but this seems like a service independent problem20:34
bobweaveraaas,  you have tried to killall tvheadend   && start tvheadend   ?20:34
jav77help please?20:34
GandalfBah I see it been renamed to Xampp for linux20:34
PiciGandalfB: I highly suggest you not using the apachefriends install.  The packages that we provide in our repositories are guaranteed to be updated for security fixes, you get no such coverage with your LAMPP/XAMPP install.20:34
ikoniawhy are you not using a standard LAMP install ?20:34
PiciGandalfB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP has all the information you need to install a LAMP stack on Ubuntu.20:35
GandalfBright ok - Pici thanks20:35
Jordan_UPici: Or rather they used to call it LAMPP, before they realized that causing confusion like we've seen here is not a great idea, and now they call it "XAMPP for Linux".20:35
ActionParsnipjav77: what is the issue?20:35
PiciJordan_U: Ah.20:35
aaasbobweaver http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428324/20:35
sbaughUbuntu doesn't seem to be remembering my wireless password, it asks for it every time (It remembers the username though)20:35
RomeoAvaTheLordOfTime I think I have to many repository in Other Software20:36
aaasit's some strange upstart thing probably20:36
bobweaveraaas,  I have no clue maybe it is called something else ?20:36
GandalfBI see - thanks Jordan_U,  sorry for causing confusion.20:36
aaasim sure tvheadend is not functioning correctly.... but its weird that it works this way20:36
bobweaveraaas,  I like tv what is tvhead ?20:37
bobweavergot a link ?20:37
ActionParsnip!info tvhead20:37
ubottuPackage tvhead does not exist in quantal20:37
ActionParsnip!find tvhead20:37
jav77the issue is that I cannot resize my display with the nvidia driver (no overscan or underscan) and I cannot see the menu or docks20:37
ubottuPackage/file tvhead does not exist in quantal20:37
aaasbobweaver it's a pvr backend20:37
aaasbobweaver for llive tv20:37
bobweaveraaas,  uses mysql for storage of meta data ect ?20:37
GandalfBI choose XAMPP for linux to have easy to setup installation  -20:37
bobweaveraaas,  like myth-tv ?20:38
ViaNocturna85RomeoAva: Could you paste the error from 'sudo apt-get update'?20:38
aaasbobweaver yeah like mythtv but much faster channel swtiching20:38
GandalfBI'm going to go away and do some reading, thanks guys20:38
PiciGandalfB: To be honest, I find the xampp install to be stranger than our install.20:38
bobweaveraaas,  ever think about joining the channel #ubuntu-tv ?20:38
ActionParsnipjav77: if you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings      set the resolution and refresh to something, click 'Save to X config file', then run:   gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     in the screen section set the res you desire. Save the new file, close gedit and reboot20:38
aaasbobweaver ill try that maybe they'll have some insight thanks20:39
bobweaveraaas,  I am sure that one of will20:39
ikoniaGandalfB: you will hit nothing but longer term pain using xampp20:40
ikoniaand you won't get support from channels such as this one20:40
RomeoAva<ViaNocturna85>   http://pastebin.com/LK3sLzKS20:42
jav77thank you. How do I enable ac3 and dolby digital passthrough?20:43
jav77i remember having to do something with asound.conf and installing alsa plugins or something20:43
ViaNocturna85RomeoAva: give me a moment while i check that20:44
RomeoAvathanks so much20:44
RomeoAvaI have about one hour already20:45
RomeoAvachecking the prices for windoz 820:46
max999i would not even use windows 8 if THEY pay ME ;)20:46
ikoniait's called "Windows"20:46
ActionParsnipjav77: did you get the res sorted?20:47
jav77not yet. I wanted to deal with sound before rebooting20:47
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ViaNocturna85RomeoAva: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?20:49
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: can you give the output of:   grep -R partner /etc/apt/*     Thanks20:49
RomeoAvaubuntu 12.1020:49
RomeoAva<ActionParsnip> how to do that?20:50
RomeoAvaplease20:50
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: run the command, make a pastebin of the text20:50
RomeoAvaok20:50
RomeoAvahttp://pastebin.com/NP427k7n20:52
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list.save /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list.distUpgrade /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade /etc/apt/sources.list.save20:54
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: those files are of no value to you20:54
almoxarifeRomeoAva: the fix is shown here, http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/ , you have duplicate 'partner' repos20:54
pete_glusterfs20:55
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jav77the display change did not work. What I did see is that at the log on screen the resolution and size are correct20:55
RomeoAva<ActionParsnip> done. nothing happened20:55
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?20:56
RomeoAva<almoxarife> I told you, I have done http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/20:56
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ActionParsnipRomeoAva: the first command simply trimmed some useless files20:57
RomeoAva<ActionParsnip> the same eror came20:57
RomeoAvaok20:57
p0eis there any practical difference with having a boot/swap partition coming after root, as opposed to before it?20:57
RomeoAvawhat next?20:58
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: ok, rerun:  grep -R partner /etc/apt/*     and pastebin the text again please20:58
ActionParsnipp0e: none at all, it doesn't matter20:58
p0ei didnt think so20:58
RomeoAvais shorter20:58
gaussblurinchello! does anybody knows good utility to restore deleted files?20:58
jav77i also noticed that in the log on screen, my tv goes to Wide PC. Once I log on, it goes to Just Scan (my preferred option). How can I change these settings? Where did the overscan bar go from Nvidia20:58
tontimerHi20:58
RomeoAvahttp://pastebin.com/MmN3tJjx20:59
p0eif i'm dual booting with 7 do i need to specify a /boot partition, or will it use the windows reserved one? i'm reading 2 different guides and one says to do it, and once says not necessary20:59
MonkeyDustgaussblurinc  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery20:59
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list; sudo apt-get update        and you'll be fine21:00
ActionParsnipgaussblurinc: try using your backups21:00
RomeoAva:)21:00
gaussblurincActionParsnip: backups... are they automatic nowdays?21:00
tontimerI bought a laptop with an AMD Radeon™ HD 7310  but I cannot get fglrx drivers to work. I've tried the AMD beta drivers 12.11 (beta11) and didn't work. Unity won't start (neither lightdm). Any ideas?21:00
Pe3khello, I have ubuntu 12.04, and automated mounting does not work, I am able to mount attached usb drive manually using udisks. udisks-daemon is running, also gvfs-afc-volume-monitor is running, any idea what else to check ?21:00
RomeoAvayou right: Reading package lists... Done21:01
ActionParsnipgaussblurinc: no but if your data is important, you will ave made backups21:01
RomeoAvano error21:01
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: read the 2nd pastebin, you can see why I advised how I did21:01
gaussblurincActionParsnip: I just lost one directory :\21:01
RomeoAvaok21:01
ActionParsnipgaussblurinc: I suggest you look into a backup regime21:02
ActionParsnipgaussblurinc: you will now need a partition mounted writable with the same size as the partition you are recoving from and use foremost in liveCD21:02
MonkeyDustgaussblurinc  this could be an automatic backup command in crontab  # 0 5 * * 1 tar -zcf /var/backups/home.tgz /home/21:03
RomeoAvaI read it 3 times, but I did't catch   :(21:04
Jordan_Up0e: Neither, unless you're talking about UEFI and the EFI System Partition.21:05
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: each file used ends in '.list'   you have 2 .list files with the partner repo named, one is the main sources.list file, the other is an extra file. So you deleted that file and cleared the issue21:05
p0ejordan, i'm too old to konw what you're talking about lol21:05
RomeoAvaok, now I see, thank you21:05
gaussblurincMonkeyDust: uh, thank you, but it commented anyway :\21:05
gaussblurincActionParsnip: foremost?21:06
RomeoAvanow is time to check. I will reboot to see what is going on21:06
p0ei have sd1/nfts winboot, sda2/nfs windows, so sda3 goes ext4 for linux, with sda4 being split into logical to have swap/boot? and thats it?21:06
ActionParsnipgaussblurinc: yes, foremost21:06
RomeoAvaso simple :)21:07
RomeoAvabrb21:07
JadeKnightI get the same issue on booting.21:07
Jordan_Up0e: I recommend using the automatic partitioning in Ubuntu's installer, which will set things up properly. If you want to know though, you almost never need a separate /boot/ partition. If you're using BIOS + an msdos partition table, then you only need the one root partition and a swap partition (or swap file), if you're using BIOS + GPT then you need a BIOS Boot Partition (which is *not* a /boot/ partition), and if you're using ...21:08
Jordan_U... UEFI then you need an EFI System Partition (which is also not a /boot/ partition).21:08
JadeKnightWhen i boot the system, half the screen goes black.21:09
p0ei see. at the moment i've only installed win7 and have everything else as unallocated, if I want to create a NFTS dump with the bulk of that space then just create it at the end of the drive and use ubuntu to automatically allocate the middle?21:09
ActionParsnipromeoAva: Its Linux, it is simple :)21:09
RomeoAvaI'm back. the same problem. Low resolution. And in Displays is only (4:3) aviable. I can't change it. But the mouse is not blinking and the desktop is clear21:11
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: what video chip? What make and model system?21:12
pilotbubhow about that Twitter rape of 12-12-12?21:12
guntbertpilotbub: wrong window21:12
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pilotbubthey ruined the world's vintage profiles21:13
Picipilotbub: this is the Ubuntu support channel. you're in the wrong place.21:13
RomeoAvaAcer Aspire 5742G, Intel Core i5-480M, NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M21:13
RomeoAvabut the comp runs very well until 7 days ago21:14
RomeoAvaafter a regular dayly update21:14
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: oh, you have that Optimus garbage21:14
RomeoAvasorry21:14
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: thats a tonne of headaches in Linux21:14
msk__hi guys i am having some problems with wireless from my lenovo z570 laptop, it says wireless disabled by hardware switch what should i do,21:14
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: look into Bumblebee but it's far from good.21:15
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RomeoAvaI was thisnking I will runn with GeForce21:15
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: if you can, disable one of the GPUs21:15
guntbertmsk__: enable the hardware switch?21:15
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: your Intel has an inbuilt GPU: http://ark.intel.com/products/5295221:15
RomeoAvai know21:16
msk__guntbert sure i did :D i try mint 13 live cd, it works but not at ubuntu 12.0421:16
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RomeoAvaI didn't install the video driver after udgrade to 12.1021:17
RomeoAvaI have it only in 12.0421:17
guntbertmsk__: strange, (I am blessed with a wifi thats always working (T60)) - so no help from me, sorry21:18
RomeoAvaI know is a trick with NVIDIA driver, but I miss the link about21:18
Guest91312Ive got a dual boot with wubi of windows 7 and ubuntu 12.04. I accidentally set the windows boot loader to boot to ubuntu automatically. Can I fix this in Ubuntu?21:18
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: its rare for proprietary video drivers to survive a release change21:18
RomeoAva:)21:18
msk__guntbert it is ok, itried everything from ho to's i ll destroy ubuntu dvd right now :/21:19
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: I recommend you uninstall the driver, reboot to the new kernel then reinstall it21:19
RomeoAvawhat driver?21:19
RomeoAvaI didn't install it21:19
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: so you are using nouveau/21:20
marianneanyone out there running 5.1 surround sound on 12.04?21:20
RomeoAvaI has so happy with 12.10 because my Samsung Multy laser Scanner works perfectly at start21:20
RomeoAvabecause in 12.04 I can't use the scanner and I trayed so many nights to fixe it21:21
hunger993Hey guys. So I used a USB CD drive, and now my mouse sticks about once a second even after i unplugged it. It happened when i was using windows xp too, but it would go away after i unplugged it. and i have rebooted since i removed the drive.21:21
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: could go for a clean install of quantal rather than an upgrade21:21
RomeoAvathe Skye, the webcam, the printer, the scanner,, all works at start21:21
RomeoAva:(21:22
RomeoAvabut worked21:22
RomeoAvalets tray to fix it21:23
Slarthunger993: no error messages in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log?21:23
RomeoAvaLinux is simple21:23
RomeoAvajust simple21:23
hunger993slart: how do i check?21:24
RomeoAvaI use Ubuntu for 4 years and 4 mounts already21:24
pgibDepends on what you mean by "simple" and by "Linux"21:24
Slarthunger993: run this in a terminal     tail /var/log/syslog     you'll get the last 10 lines from the syslog file21:24
p0ebill clinton would also ask what the definition of "is" is21:25
RomeoAvaI need to make it function because my friend will laugh at me21:26
hunger993Slart: Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Successfully made thread 2229 of process 2194 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 5.21:26
hunger993Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Supervising 5 threads of 2 processes of 2 users.21:26
hunger993Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Successfully made thread 2230 of process 2194 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 5.21:26
hunger993Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Supervising 6 threads of 2 processes of 2 users.21:26
hunger993Dec 12 15:47:50 hunger993-Latitude-D430 NetworkManager[782]: <info> (wlan0): IP6 addrconf timed out or failed.21:26
hunger993Dec 12 15:47:50 hunger993-Latitude-D430 NetworkManager[782]: <info> Activation (wlan0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...21:26
FloodBot1hunger993: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:26
pgibright. but "linux" is such an overloaded term nowadays. I couldn't really agree that it is "Simple", not even if you limit the definition to only the kernel.21:26
Slarthunger993: no no no.. don't paste it into the channel.. there are almost 2000 people here.. they don't want to see that21:26
Slart!pastebin | hunger99321:26
ubottuhunger993: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:26
hunger993sorry floodbot21:27
hunger993http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428438/21:27
Slarthunger993: hmm.. nothing strange there21:27
hunger993slart: so. What do?21:28
ActionParsniphunger993: you can disable ipv6 using the boot option:   ipv6.disable=121:28
ActionParsniphunger993: i assume you don't use ipv621:29
hunger993not that i know of21:29
Slarthunger993: I would try another mouse and see if the problem persists.. it might be a software problem or it might just be a semi-broken mouse21:29
RomeoAvaAbout my Software Source/ Other Software, I think there are to many repository. Sam untick. How to be shore is ok?21:30
Slarthunger993: also I would try cleaning the mouse sensor, replace batteries and such21:30
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: there is no limit, you can have as many as you want :)21:30
hunger993its my trackpad. same thing happens with the nub mouse on the keyboard21:30
RomeoAvaok21:30
Slarthunger993: the thing with the cd drive might just a be random coincidence21:30
krnlpanickgreets all21:31
hunger993Slart: well it happend when i ran xp, but it would go away after i unplugged21:31
Slarthunger993: ah.. they both act the same? then it sounds like a software problem.. but you got the same thing in windows?21:31
krnlpanickSeems like download servers are going ridiculously slow today - anyone else having issues? getting 20k/m on 12.10-server :(21:32
hunger993Slart: yep21:32
p0ekrnlpanick, i just downloaded about 30min, was ~1.5mb21:32
srcconMy iPhone just died, should I wait for ubuntu for android to come out "soon"21:32
RomeoAvaI remember the problems starts  a few days ago when I turn off the comp and there was an warning: the Gnome is not finis yet or is not responding. But I close it any way. Do you think cud be that?21:32
Slarthunger993: odd.. the only thing I can think of that might show up in both windows and linux would be some kind of interrupt problem.. not really sure how to diagnose something like that21:32
p0ebut the stream kept failing and i'd have to manually restart it every 30-60sec21:32
RomeoAvabecause was stuck21:33
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hunger993Slart: it seems like its slowly getting better, like now its once every 3 seconds. which is almost stranger than the problem itself21:34
RomeoAvawhen I sad that the resolution is bad that means I cant use the laptop for video projector. The Display settings is not properly working21:34
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: I anticipate lots of issues with display21:35
younderRomeoAva, they never are are they21:35
younderRomeoAva, Are you sure you got the UNIX version?21:35
RomeoAvabut worked very well21:35
RomeoAva?21:36
RomeoAvawhat you meand?21:36
pgibhunger993, you could check to see if it is some poisoned configuration in your gnome, gtk, or X settings.  Create another user and log in as them.  Perhaps something is bogus in your "dot config" files21:36
younderRomeoAva, You know Ubuntu is a Unix system right. So you need Unix dirvers21:37
RomeoAvatomorow I need to use the videoprojector then I need to fix it21:37
younderYou haven't got one.. well It won't work. simple as tht21:37
RomeoAvaok21:38
hunger993pgib: i will try. brblol21:38
RomeoAvahow can we fix that bug, please21:38
RomeoAvaany tray?21:38
pgibhttp://i.qkme.me/35bcci.jpg It's a Unix system!21:38
RomeoAvamy wife is waiting for the comp, but I sat that I need to fix it21:38
RomeoAvathen I'm here for you21:39
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: use bumblebee but you'll probably have issues, its best avoided21:39
RomeoAvayes this is21:39
RomeoAvanow I remeber the agly name21:39
lime__Why doesn't the following work for assigning a keyboard click to a keyboard key?21:39
krnlpanickanyone - slow downloads today? don't think it is my interwebz, I have no problem d/ling other stuff21:40
younderThat said Ubuntu has some of the dtrongest hardware support of ny linux system. That , in fact, is why I prefer it21:40
krnlpanick20k/s is sloooowwww21:40
lime__xmodma -e "syskey a = PointerButton_1"21:40
younderIt is.. I do 150021:40
ClicheI have a question regarding GRUB?21:40
RomeoAvawe can't fix the gnome? or the Unity?21:41
younderCliche, GRUB or GRUB221:41
RomeoAvato check if is ok?21:41
younderThey are vastly different21:42
RomeoAvacan we check the entire 12.10 if has isues and what one?21:42
ClicheI had Ubuntu installed beside Win7 before, but had uninstalled it after a while. However, Ubuntu was still an option (deadlink) upon system boot. So, I reinstalled Ubuntu and now I have two Ubuntu options. One of which works, the other is a deadlink. How do I fix this issue?21:42
ActionParsnipRomeoAva: could install xfce4 and then log in to that from LightDM21:42
younderRomeoAva,  we can and will.. We are the sotware comunity. Be vigilant!21:43
younderRomeoAva,  lol21:43
RomeoAva:)21:43
RomeoAvaI'm here21:43
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RomeoAvaMeta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment21:44
RomeoAvai dont like it21:45
RomeoAvaunity is beter21:45
testUSB CD drive sticky mouse problem guy is back21:46
RomeoAvahow I can check the Unity, and fix it?21:46
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hunger993Slarg: i logged out and back in under a new user. still sticks21:47
tontimerHi, I bought a laptop with an AMD Radeon™ HD 7310 graphics card but I cannot get fglrx drivers to work. I've tried the AMD beta drivers 12.11 (beta11) and didn't work either. Unity won't start (neither lightdm). Any ideas?21:47
RomeoAvabut??? maybe I have the bumblebee? How can we see?21:48
ActionParsniptontimer: if you press CTRL+ALT+T   does a terminal load?21:49
tontimernope21:49
ActionParsniptontimer: is the system fully updated?21:50
younderA;MD is generarally worse supported than NVIDEA21:50
tontimeryes21:50
tontimerfully updated21:50
ActionParsnipyounder: not much less nowadays :)21:50
younderThat's al I can say having a GTX 680 myself21:50
ActionParsnipyounder: its nvidia too, not nvidea21:50
tontimerActionParsnip: i did a fresh ubuntu 12.10install, updated everything and then I tried to install the propietary drivers21:50
younderActionParsnip, glad you said that. How is the support for the AMD radeon HD  7310 anyhow21:51
younderThought so21:52
ZodihaxI installed ubuntu on my 2nd SSD with windows still being on my first SSD, but upon trying to boot my first SSD now, windows doesnt boot.. all thats happening is the blinking "-"21:52
Zodihaxanyone happen to know whats wrong and how to fix it?21:53
ActionParsnipyounder: no idea, I only buy nvidia things21:53
younderActionParsnip, Mee too21:53
Zodihaxand when attempting to boot windows from grub on the 2nd SSD, im left with "invalid EFI path" (or something like that)21:53
ironhalikWith multi-monitor setup, how can I make the launcher to not intercept my mouse when crossing between two displays?21:53
ActionParsnipyounder: did you run:  sudo aticonfig --initial    before rebooting?21:54
DWSRhalp? http://pastebin.com/xzUYW8k321:54
M13hello21:54
srcconMy phone just died, should I wait for Ubuntu for android before buying a replacement?21:54
ironhalikIn CCSM, I set all the launcher variables to 1, and it should be working bow, but it does not21:54
younderActionParsnip For change I tried a AMD card in two months, two, it broke, and I was sendt back to onboard graphics21:54
M13how do you make a website on a Ubuntu Server21:54
_andyj_ironhalik: settings -> appearance -> sticky edges21:55
M13?21:55
DWSRsrccon: Ubuntu for Android? You're hilarious21:55
DWSRsrccon: get out, troll.21:55
ActionParsnipM13: install apache221:55
ActionParsnipDWSR: its being developed21:55
M13and I can runa website?21:55
ActionParsnipM13: yes21:55
ironhalik_andyj_: It's not it, I'm using launcher autohide, so it catches the mouse trying to reveal the launcher21:55
srccon?DWSR, should I go to a Android IRC?21:55
DWSRActionParsnip: You do realize how completely dumb "Ubuntu for Android" is?21:55
M13ok thnx21:55
younderActionParsnip, True It was a cheap card, but..21:55
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DWSRUbuntu for Android is like saying Linux for Linux.21:56
ActionParsnipDWSR: its not, you run both OSes, new android phones have anough power to run Ubuntu21:56
_andyj_ironhalik: oh, not sure how to get rid of that one21:56
DWSRUbuntu for Android is like saying Linux for Linux.21:56
ironhalikalso, my CCSM had all the plugins disabled for some reason - maybe it's not working properly?21:56
srcconDWSR True, it is technically linux on linux21:56
ActionParsnipDWSR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY   go see the future21:57
srcconActionParsnip what is your take on the Ubuntu for Android21:57
xatr0zAfter installing some updates on Ubuntu 12.10 and removing samba and installing samba4 from repository, everything worked fine. Next day after reboot I can't login via the GUI and also via the commandline and SSH. However: when I try to login with username xatr0z and some madup password, it says "Login incorrect", and below that I can try to login again. IF I use my CORRECT password I _DONT_ see "Login incorrect", but the entire screen is cleared before I ...21:57
ActionParsnipyounder: I think its exciting21:57
xatr0z... can enter my username again. Does anybody know what mightve gone wrong? It's the only useraccount so I can't test with another one.21:57
ActionParsnipsrccon: I think its exciting21:57
DWSRanyone? http://pastebin.com/xzUYW8k321:58
Steve132I try to connect a USB 3.0 hard drive...it works on USB 2.0 port, but when I connect to USB 3.0 port nothing happens.   Here's dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428504/21:58
younderLinux is linux. windows is windosw. etc. we all are fans of something. I generallly like the idea of open sotftware. So I am fore linux21:58
ActionParsnipDWSR: Ubuntu is a distribution, it runs in the background. Linux is only the kernel21:58
DWSRActionParsnip: Ubuntu shouldn't require recompiling for Android, then.21:58
ActionParsnipDWSR: what is the output of:    lsb_release -sc21:58
DWSRActionParsnip: err, porting rather21:58
DWSRIt should require just recompiling for ARM. And off you go21:59
ActionParsnipDWSR: it needs tweaking to run on the platform21:59
DWSRSince the kernel is GUN/Linux.21:59
DWSRGNU*21:59
ActionParsnipDWSR: drivers etc21:59
ActionParsnipDWSR: it wil probably be a separate firmware etc21:59
DWSRActionParsnip: Drivers don't require a port. They're just a rewrite. This doesn't make the project any less pointless.21:59
DWSRBut anyway.21:59
ActionParsnipDWSR: anyway21:59
ActionParsnipDWSR: what is the output of:    lsb_release -sc22:00
DWSRActionParsnip: I'm on precise.22:00
younderGNU/LINUX is te base of ALL linuxen. Your call.. Your blessing.. You should rejoice ;)22:00
ActionParsnipDWSR: run:   echo "libc6-dev hold" | dpkg --set-selections; apt-get -f install        as root22:01
youndersorry for the PEP talk but you seem to have forgotten why we are all here..22:01
ActionParsnipDWSR: source: http://ilostmynotes.blogspot.in/22:01
younderI LOVE my Ubuntu22:01
DWSRActionParsnip: Lovely.22:02
Steve132Any thoughts on http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428504/ ?  Googling the -108 error doesn't seem to get any solutions,22:02
DWSRyounder: We're going to gloss over the fact that design paradigms for mobile/touchscreen vs. traditional desktop are completely different, then gloss over the fact that you're not really running Ubuntu ON Android as much as just running Gnome on Android.22:02
DWSRyounder: But yes. Completely the same thing.22:03
younderI know it to it's deepest core as a hacker (not cracker) should and try to be helpful here.22:03
DWSRActionParsnip: Any idea why the issue arises?22:04
younderDWSR, No I am not. ut we will overcome those pproblems22:04
ActionParsnipDWSR: no idea at all22:04
DWSRyounder: They're not problems. They're just inherent design differences.22:04
younderTrue22:04
DWSRyounder: I'm merely pointing out that you're not porting Ubuntu to Android.22:04
younderDWSR, No I am not22:05
DWSRThe whole project isn't.22:05
DWSRAlso, if Android is already GNU/Linux, why the fuss over thed drivers. You already ahve a Linux kernel loaded. Can't you just piggy back?22:06
DWSRThis seems like it should be hilariously easy as compared to some other projects I've seen22:06
younderDWSR, http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android22:06
ActionParsnipDWSR: there will be an amount of porting. Otherwise it would be fully available now22:06
younderlol22:06
Pe3khello, pls help, I uninstalled udisks and after restart I am not able to start X session - after entering password only for short time text mode is displayed and then it switches back to login screen ...22:06
dr_willis!info udisks22:07
ubottuudisks (source: udisks): storage media interface. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-6 (quantal), package size 241 kB, installed size 1092 kB22:07
younderI kinda expected as much. The Ubuntu comunity if about 1000 000 people by now.22:07
zodihaxi installed ubuntu on a second ssd while keeping windows on my first ssd.. now after installing ubuntu i cant launch windows neither via booting the first ssd nor by grub.. anyone happen to know whats wrong? thanks22:07
dr_willisPe3k:  canyou login at teh console? tried making a new user to see if they can login>22:07
ActionParsnipzodihax: your Grub2 should be able to boot Windows22:08
zodihaxit says something about wrong EFI path22:08
zodihaxgrub2 that is22:08
ActionParsnipzodihax: if you didn't overwrite the MBR for Windows, you can set the boot device to the 1st SSD and it should boot22:08
escottzodihax, was the first ssd gpt/EFI?22:08
younderYou erased that EFI.. shudder?22:08
Pe3kdr_willis: I havent tried this, but there is also guest session and it behaves exactly same22:09
zodihaxim unsure whether it was gpt/EFI sorry.. and ActionParsnip no I cant boot windows by selecting that SSD as a boot device (im stuck with a blinking "-")22:09
ActionParsnip!efi22:09
ActionParsnipgah22:09
escottzodihax, can you boot to the usb installer and run "sudo parted -l" for us22:09
dr_willisPe3k:  why did you Uninstall udisks?  try reinstalling the ubuntu default disk with 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' perhaps22:09
younderI have got around this but it goes into that advanced partioning tool at the strt22:09
ActionParsnipzodihax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting22:09
younderAre ouy ready to take that on?22:10
zodihaxpartition table: msdos22:10
c_smithzodihax, I've had similar issues, are you running 12.10 or 12.04?22:10
younderI always use non standard partioning for my discs22:10
zodihax12.1022:10
younderWorked a miracle for me22:11
zodihaxits weird though as my windows SSD shouldnt have been affected by me installing ubuntu on another disk right? it kinda sucks too, i sort of need my windows to practice for my programming exams22:11
c_smithzodihax, does it say either "Secure Boot not enabled" or "Secure Boot enabled" on boot of the LiveCD?22:11
younderI aslo managed the effi problem22:11
c_smithif it says one of those, then you know it's UEFI22:12
Pe3kdr_willis: because automated mounting was not working and this was 'succesful' way how to correct it - uninstall and back install - but this did not help me - and - weird thing - after installing udisks-daemon is not running :(22:12
zodihaxim pretty sure its UEFI, as the ubuntu disk has a UEFI label on it in BIOS22:12
c_smithif it doesn't, it most likely means it was either a poorly implemented or faked UEFI implemented.22:12
escottzodihax, are both msdos? or is only one msdos the other gpt?22:12
younderYou need a UFFI artion choose the smallest. about 200 M22:12
zodihaxmy windows is msdos, linux is gpt22:12
* c_smith is confused22:13
younderThen don't f*** with it22:13
c_smithare you talking partitions or disks?22:13
dr_willisPe3k:  also as a test. install some alternative window manager/desktop such as openbox, or lubuntu-desktop see if you can login to those22:13
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zodihaxsudo parted -l22:13
escottzodihax, my guess would be that the system is prefering to boot the second ssd in efi mode b/c it is gpt22:13
zodihaxshows one of my ssds as gpt and one as msdos22:13
Pe3kdr_willis: ok I will try..22:13
c_smithzodihax, ah, I see.22:13
c_smithzodihax, you COULD try a new installation of Ubuntu and manually set up the EFI partition.22:14
zodihaxsorry, im trying to cooperate but i havent used ubuntu in three years and im kind of stressed out by this all atm :D22:14
escottzodihax, and that may be messing things up for the bios mode windows. i would go into efi setup and force the boot to bios, then chroot into the installed linux system and remove grub-efi and install grub22:14
c_smithnot the most convenient, but still.22:14
fabricio_Hey, I seen to have a very bad problem, I accidentally did install a older version of WINE on my Linux, and now I cant update or remove it, dependencies broken....22:15
zodihaxhm yeah i thought abiout that actually.. but i cant find any option to disable UEFI or force bios in my bios-setup thing22:15
escottzodihax, if you dont mind reinstalling linux that could be easier22:15
fabricio_How I can fix it?22:15
zodihaxi did just reinstall ubuntu actually, i selected "erase 12.10 and install" though22:15
c_smithfabricio_, sudo apt-get purge wine && sudo apt-get install wine22:15
escottzodihax, go into efi setup, and change the boot preference for the usb flash drive to bios (it is probably set as efi) then reinstall ubuntu (it should set things up for bios mode)22:15
zodihaxi dont mind if i cant boot windows from grub, i just want to be able to boot windows when i select that particular disk as a boot device22:15
c_smithfabricio_, enter those into Terminal.22:15
fabricio_But the dependencies of wine are broken, I will test that anyways22:15
fabricio_Hold on okay?22:16
younderThe only way to TRULY erase if to reformat22:16
escottzodihax, trying to switch disks and boot methods is going to be a problem22:16
younderjust so you know22:16
escottzodihax, you want both ubuntu and windows to boot bios not efi22:16
zodihaxescott ok ill try to do that then, anything else I should think about while doing it?22:16
c_smithfabricio_, let me change that, sudo apt-get purge wine && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install wine22:16
fabricio_Okay, I did not have any problems by now22:16
zodihaxand tips on how I may configure my USB to boot bios in efi setup? im not exactly experienced in there22:17
c_smithfabricio_, that will get rid of wine, then the unneeded dependencies, then reinstall Wine from the repos.22:17
zodihaxactually ill just try, and come back again.. thanks for the help guys, cu in a few if i cant figure it out :)22:17
max999fabricio_, you could just install playonlinux. its an app that allows you to install a lot of programs (not only games) that would be troublesome without and to manage as many wine versions at once as u wish (you can select for each application with which wine version you want it to run).22:17
fabricio_It WORKED! Thanks man22:17
c_smithfabricio_, no prob.22:17
fabricio_Thanks very much C_smith22:17
youndermy recommendation is to get rid of that narly windows22:18
c_smithfabricio_, I just wouldn't recommend using that all the time.22:18
younderBut, hey, thats me22:18
c_smithI've managed to bork up my system by purging Wine, wanted to remove Grub along with Wine and a bunch of other system apps.22:18
fabricio_Wine it removed the old version and did install the version that actually dont let any thing broke?22:19
escottzodihax, can't say what your efi setup menu will look like22:19
c_smithfabricio_, if you want, I can explain what that command, well, actually the 3 commands did.22:19
fabricio_Holy mother of god, I need to download the 365 MB of updates on my Linux 12.04 LTS22:19
c_smith&& is basically bash shorthand. :P22:19
younderWine sucks! I wish I was a windows machine -) Well YOU ARE NOT :) YOU ARE A UNIX MACHINE :)22:19
c_smithfabricio_, not unheard of.22:20
fabricio_I have windows  :P22:20
c_smithyounder, it's his choice......22:20
max999i made any program i wanted to run on linux yet22:20
fabricio_LTS is a Long Term Version, or a version of ubuntu that have extended support for 2/3 years22:20
younderc_smith, and that is the truth22:20
fabricio_Or means, I will not upgrade linux until the 13.04 version22:21
kostkonfac22:21
kostkonwhoops22:21
kostkonfabricio_, 5 years for 12.0422:21
fabricio_Oh, thanks Kost22:21
c_smithfabricio_, what those commands did is got rid of Wine and it's config files (sudo apt-get purge wine) then removed any unneded packages (sudo apt-get autoremove) then reinstalled wine (sudo apt-get install wine)22:21
c_smithfabricio_, so basically 17.0422:21
younderfabricio_, definitely I recommend the long term version22:21
c_smithwhich is a waaaays off.22:21
fabricio_Long Term Support, not Version.22:22
c_smithI may end up going the LTS route myself when I get the PC I ordered tomorrow.22:22
fabricio_Piss........Lots and lots of updates ._.22:22
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younderfabricio_, THE UPDATES ARE NECCESATY22:23
fabricio_And the updates are not messy or crashing the OS when downloading.....22:23
younderfabricio_, go for it22:23
fabricio_Okay, 365 megabytes aren't a problem for me. Even my internet download speed is 140KB- 135KB.22:24
serp_i usually dont update my ubuntu22:25
fabricio_It is a 1MB internet Cable Modem from Motorola22:25
serp_i think it is safe enough out of the box22:25
roychriInside /lib/modules I have a bunch of 3.2.0-34-generic-pae folders (different version).  I am looking to fre up some disk space and I wonder if I really need all of them?  anyone know?22:25
serp_othereidr they wouldnt release it22:25
fabricio_Okay, I did have a REPOS already in my PC for wine, I did the commands, so it removed the old thing and replaced with the stable, good version of it?22:26
almoxariferoychri: you would be safer to use 'bleachbit' as root to gain space22:27
fabricio_I will now uninstall the only program installed on wine, Counter Strike with Half Life .-.22:28
fabricio_I am not really sure to remove that22:28
fabricio_Should I?22:28
dr_willisfabricio_:  not really much reason to uninstall the games.. unless you need the space.22:29
fabricio_oh, and BTW, its dinner time here, so I will be AFK for a while22:29
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roychrialmoxarife: Thanks, I will look into it22:29
Pe3kdr_willis: ok, it works for guest - new window manager starts and also usb flash memory works there :) ... but, how to set this window manager for standard user? (me) - I can not find anything for choosing window manager when logging in22:29
Pe3kdr_willis: ok I found it ...22:30
Pe3kdr_willis: thanks again22:31
roastedI'm beyond confused. I put two USB HDD's on my desktop to rsync the data. Once done, I put each USB HDD onto its own box. I'm now rsyncing again and it's redoing EVERYTHIGN, despite the fact the data exists already on the other drive.22:32
stfuirc.rizon.net22:33
Zodihaxhey guys. I may have been a complete tool mistaking one of my normal HDDs for my SSD, hence why I couldnt boot windows when selecting that SSD as a boot device (because I didnt).. so im on windows again now at least! installing ubuntu non-uefi turned out to be horrible (grub could install etc) but ill try to figure that out later.. thanks for helping me :)22:33
fabricio_Back :D22:33
fabricio_What the Ex-Chat thing means?22:34
fabricio_Could someone answer?22:36
fabricio_Dr.Kleiner : Great Scott, Gordon Freeman!22:38
fabricio_Hey all, what EX-CHAT means?22:38
Miebsterhow do I use apt-get to get an older version of something?22:39
MiebsterI want thunderbird 1422:39
ironhalikhmm, I mount my second driva via fstab, on boot. Nautilus shows it in the Devices list twice, as a hard drive and as a external drive (?). Any ideas?22:40
Gaddelwould someone be willing to help me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209387122:49
xangua!here | Gaddel22:50
ubottuGaddel: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com22:50
fabricio_raszejaHi, err, I changed my username. the raszeja is my last name22:51
Gaddelokay. i have an elantech touchpad and i am not able to use any of the ubuntu/xubuntu touchpad settings to modify it. and synclient -l says "no synaptics drivers loaded"22:51
fabricio_raszejahey, I can give a guess? sudo_apt get synclient? What?22:52
fabricio_raszejaI can be wrong......22:52
Gaddelfabricio_raszeja: i have synclient and i have all the synaptics drivers installed22:52
fabricio_raszejaBecause I have NO IDEA22:52
pgibMiebster, apt-get install appname=version22:52
pgibMiebster, that of course assumes the version is available and it probably isn't22:52
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fabricio_raszejaOkay. Don't use windows steam on ubuntu with wine, it makes the game's graphics weird, since the DirectX of wine is pretty bad.22:54
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fabricio_raszejaHey, I see on the internet that VALVE will exit windows and launch a Linux Steam on 2013, is that right?22:55
fabricio_raszejaAnswer me. Please...22:55
escottfabricio_raszeja, they won't "exit windows"22:55
pgibfabricio_raszeja, there is already linux steam in private beta.  I doubt they are going to abandon windows though22:56
fabricio_raszejaOkay, they won't make a Windows 8 version, as Gabe Newell says22:56
k1l_fabricio_raszeja: yes, steam is in beta phase right now. but thats a topi fpr #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic22:56
fabricio_raszejaOh22:56
pgibthis channel is for boring stuff22:57
ikoniapgib: it's for ubuntu support, if that's not for you, type /part22:57
fabricio_raszejaThis channel is for specially for ubuntu support, or, users helping users22:58
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ikoniafabricio_raszeja: ubuntu support22:58
pgibI know that! I usually lurk here and help people when I'm on here.  Sorry that I answered fabricio_raszeja's question even though it was OT.22:58
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ikoniapgib: nothing wrong with that,22:59
younderHi ikonia22:59
ikoniahello22:59
Guest17860hi all , I am tring to install mysql-server but am getting errors back , can someone assist , here is my aptitud output http://pastebin.com/1GPJT0Kh23:00
pgibikonia, ah, the "boring" comment. that was intended for fabricio and not in disgust over the chan rules.  sorry about that23:00
ikoniapgib: not a problem23:00
magn3tsYou know what's great? Having wireless on a Mac still be a freaking nightmare in 2012. What's worse? The driver that is supposed to fix it simply doesn't build for a ton of people, despite being an ubuntu package.23:02
ikoniamagn3ts: what a poor way to get help,23:03
xanguamagn3ts: get a dongle that is supported :)23:03
magn3tsI don't expect help, it's a lament. I'm not proud of it but it is.23:03
magn3tsxangua: I've been doing precisely that :)23:03
ikoniamagn3ts: if you dont want help, there is no need to mention it in this channel23:04
ikonia(please)23:04
magn3tsOk.23:04
ikoniathanks23:04
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blip-hi all, I was upgrading ubuntu 11.04 to 12.04 and it's now stuck on "2 minutes remaining.  Configuring nautilus-dropbox".   I think a nautilus process crashed, what should I do ?23:05
blip-I don't want to kill the upgrade, it's almost done, but it's stuck now23:05
ikoniablip-: did you not remove it ?23:05
ikoniablip-: the instructions say to remove all 3rd party software and PPA's23:05
WACOMaltHi folks. I managed to get my xbox360 controller working on ubuntu, but the LEDs keep flashing, and in some games the left stick is 1/2 as effective as it should be. I have calibrated it. Anybody have any idea what could be the issue?23:05
ikonia(before upgrading)23:05
jribblip-: also, what happened to 11.10?  Are you upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10?  Or 11.10 to 12.04?23:05
blip-ikonia, oh, I didn't notice that :/23:06
blip-I haven't used this computer for a long time23:06
blip-I just refreshed and searched for updates, and it offered to go to 12.04 straight from 11.0423:06
jribblip-: no23:06
jribblip-: were you on 10.04 before maybe?23:07
Guest19876im running black buntu, and everytime i have scrolled the mouse reel on 3 pcs, they have crashed and burned, is this normal23:07
blip-I did lsb-release check, it was either 11.04 or 11.10, i forgot sorry :)23:07
phunyguy_t430sBlack Buntu?23:07
blip-oh it's 11.1023:07
Guest19876yes black buntu is a penetration testing software23:08
ikoniaGuest19876: we don't support blackbuntu here23:08
xanguaGuest19876: ask in your distro support channel/forum/whatever23:08
ikoniaGuest19876: use the blackbuntu support resources23:08
ikonia(please)23:08
blip-It was 11.10 and upgarding to 12.04, didn't know i should remove PPA's so now it's stuck on configuring nautilus-dropbox23:08
blip-do I xkill the upgrade or ?23:08
phunyguy_t430s!info nautilus-dropbox23:09
ubottunautilus-dropbox (source: nautilus-dropbox): Dropbox integration for Nautilus. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.4.0-2 (quantal), package size 93 kB, installed size 366 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)23:09
phunyguy_t430s..is that still considered 3rd party?23:09
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ikoniait depends on dropbox....which is 3rd party23:09
blip-anyway ok i sinned... what's the solution now ? any recommendations ?23:09
magn3tsikonia: I can phrase it as a question now-  how can I rebuild a dkms module that failed to installed without apt-get remove/install?23:10
jribblip-: what's the upgrade window show you now?  Click on the little dropdown to show a terminal23:10
phunyguy_t430sOK ikonia, confusing I guess, considering it is a simple "sudo apt-get install nautilus-dropbox"23:10
ikoniaphunyguy_t430s: really, so it doesn't actually depend on the dropbox client then23:10
blip-jrib, the last thing it did was downloading Dropbox and its stuck on 94% downloading23:11
ikoniamagn3ts: there are some build instructions on the ubuntu wiki23:11
phunyguy_t430sikonia, I've never had to do anything special with dropbox.23:11
bilbonvidiais there a netstat command that'll show remote tcp connection only, that is not show connections from the local host back to the local host - I want to grep for connections on a certain port but ignore local instances of that port23:11
ikoniaphunyguy_t430s: be interesting to see if it pulls in anything from external, or if it's all built in23:11
jribblip-: can you pastebin what you see in the terminal window?  You usually have an option to click on a drop-down arrow for "details" or "output" or "shell" or "terminal".  Something like that23:11
jayarhow do i fix a degraded array?23:11
ikoniajayar: an mdadm array ?23:12
Catbuntuhi23:12
Gaddelhi23:12
jayarRAID-123:12
ikoniajayar: an mdadm array ?23:12
phunyguy_t430sikonia, yup.  it does.  Just tried it out23:12
diverdudeI am trying to do mount -t ext4 /dev/md1 /media/md1 but get an error saying "wrong fs type". I also tried ext3 and other, but same error. Why can't i mount md1?23:12
blip-jrib, browser doesn't launch anymore.  In terminal says "94% Downloading Dropbox...." and that's the last output23:12
ikoniaphunyguy_t430s: it does what (sorry just not sure what you mean)23:13
dr_willisnautilus-dropbox downloads dropbox from the dropbox site it seems. ;)23:13
ikoniadiverdude: is md1 valid ?23:13
phunyguy_t430sikonia, it downloads from dropbox.com23:13
icerootdiverdude: /dev/md1 ?  normally its /dev/mapper/... because md is raid23:13
ikoniaphunyguy_t430s: ahh, there we go23:13
phunyguy_t430syou were right.23:13
blip-so dropbox servers went down ruining my distro upgrade ?23:13
dr_willisblip-:  dropbox downloads seem very slow/hung here also. their site may be having issues23:13
diverdudeikonia, i think so yes but im not sure...how can i tell?23:13
magn3tsikonia: I think the answer was: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure bcmwl-kernel-source" but thanks anywho.23:13
ikoniablip-: no23:13
ikoniadiverdude: what is md1 ?23:14
dr_willisblip-:  it just took off. ;) 99% one23:14
ikoniamagn3ts: cool23:14
diverdudeikonia, thats a raid5 array23:14
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ikoniadiverdude: an mdadm array ?23:14
diverdudeikonia, yes exactly23:14
ikoniadiverdude: look in /proc/mdstat23:14
dr_willisblip-:  then there was some warning/message about dropbox not being installed correctly. :P23:14
diverdudeikonia, yes23:15
diverdudeikonia, and then?23:15
blip-guys can I just skip nautilus-dropbox package ?  Dropbox can go to hell at this moment, I want my OS back :)23:15
phunyguy_t430sdr_willis, I got that same message23:15
ikoniadiverdude: that will tell you if it's in a valid state23:15
blip-It's on 94% for 15 minutes now23:15
dr_willisphunyguy_t430s:  ;) not sure if its working or not.. heh23:15
diverdudeikonia, it looks fine...im not sure what to look for though23:15
blip-there is no cancel button on the distro upgrade23:15
phunyguy_t430sI dont want to log into mine and start pulling 150 gig to test either23:15
ikoniadiverdude: can you pastebin it please.23:15
diverdudeikonia, yes23:16
phunyguy_t430sI have my dropboxd daemon running on the server and mapped to PCs with sftp.23:16
dr_willisdropdrive: 'dropbox is running from a unsupported location'23:16
dr_willisoops. :) miss tabed23:16
simplewhiw can change grub theme? in /etc/defaults/grub i have added this line: GRUB_THEME=/usr/share/grub/themes/starfield/theme.txt23:16
simplewwill that line do what?23:17
simplewisnt there a way to test grub?23:17
diverdudeikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428661/23:17
dr_willismessage when i start dropbox service is  'dropbox is running from a unsupported location'  - seems it wants me to get the latest version23:17
ikoniadiverdude: looks good, looks a little bit odd that the drives are maped as 0,1,2,4 rather than 0,1,2,3, but that doesn't it stop it being valid and active23:18
blip-ok problem solved as discussed here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=308bf981269ded9adb172503e3a82c43&t=1971123&page=223:18
blip-sudo killall nautilus-dropbox dropbox23:18
ikoniadiverdude: out of interest, sudo mount /dev/md1 /media/md123:18
blip-so much for graphical installer...23:19
ikoniadiverdude: what happens23:19
diverdudeikonia, it says: you must specify the file system23:19
erncicdr_willis: If memory serves, Ubuntu package runs from an unsupported location and the dropbox deb is a messy install. Files are located in unapproved areas.23:19
ikoniadiverdude: has this device ever been used ?23:20
ikoniadiverdude: or is it a new device ?23:20
diverdudeikonia, this is a brand new device23:20
ikoniadiverdude: so have you put a file system on it yet ?23:20
diverdudeikonia, maybe i have not....that might be what i am missing23:21
ikoniadiverdude: certainly sounds like it23:21
diverdudeikonia, how can i do that?23:21
ikoniadiverdude: mkfs23:21
diverdudeikonia, mkfs -t ext4 /dev/md1 ?23:22
shallwehi guys, can i disable alt + mouse click for move windows?23:22
ikoniadiverdude: don't forget sudo23:22
diverdudeikonia, ahh nice23:23
phunyguy_t430sI usually do mkfs.ext4 /dev/device23:23
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diverdude....that can take a while :D writing inode table x/880½6 hehe23:23
phunyguy_t430sbut either way works I am sure.23:23
diverdude8801623:23
joey8i have to install a 32bit debian linux file and it the filename is aaa.pkg (note no "d"). Does anyone know how to install it please23:24
jribjoey8: what software?23:25
pinkpelicanm23:25
ikoniadoesn't look like a debian file23:25
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joey8jtib pogoplugbackup23:25
joey8jrib: pogoplugbackup23:25
icerootjoey8: pkg is mac osx and not debian23:26
phunyguy_t430s+1 iceroot23:26
max999joey8, pkg is mac or solaris, there is a converter: sudo apt-get install alien23:26
joey8iceroot: really - ah haa that would explain my difficulty23:26
icerootjoey8: dont install software which is designed for mac osx23:26
joey8max999: thanx max i will give it a go23:26
jribjoey8: http://pogoplug.com/downloads you can find a linux version there...23:26
joey8jrib: wow thanx23:27
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icerootjoey8: a debian/ubuntu files ends with *.deb23:27
icerootjoey8: and if you need a backup solution i would suggest deja-dup23:27
fabricio_raszejaHello everyone23:28
joey8iceroot:  thanx but i want to backup to my own personal cloud disk (pogoplug)23:28
icerootjoey8: deja-dup can backup to ubuntu-one for example but ok if it is the solution you need23:29
joey8iceroot: thanx mate23:29
joey8jrib: thanx for the pointer - i have tried that tar gz file but it just unzips a wierd file with no suffix that does nothing. thanx for you help anyway23:30
dr_willisHmm.. seems i got a bug back on the system that was happening during 12.10 beta.  after a long amount of uptime X starts sucking down a lot of CPU and lags the whole system.  If i restart the X server its back to being snappy. untill like a day later.. then X is back to using 30-99% cpu in htop again23:30
jribjoey8: you have to read documentation to see what exactly is in the tar.gz23:31
joey8jrib: thank you23:31
icerootjoey8: on linux the file-extension is not needed for the function of a program, its just for a better reading but it does not have any affect, GNU/Linux is working different here then windows23:32
max999dr_willis, i once had a strange memory leak problem on linux mint (ubuntu fork), filling my ram and cpu usage when i used firefox a while ..23:32
cdavissomething got mucked up with my kernel image install this morning, how can I have apt-get do a full removal and reinstall of that version? (I have booted to the older image already)23:32
max999i changed to chromium and it was fine23:32
joey8iceroot: Oh really - now that is interesting - thank you for that.23:32
dr_willismax999:  I have free memory. i een added more swap. which is not even being used.23:32
max999dr_willis, thing was, it filled my xserver usage and not the firefox one ..23:33
dr_willismax999:  seems to be some quirk with the nvidia drivers/X  it even affects lubuntu/lxde23:33
max999dr_willis, i was on nvidia too :)23:33
icerootjoey8: you will see that there are other interesting (positiv) things on GNU/Linux23:33
max999dr_willis, i could doublecheck it by just browsing for very huge image files on google image search and seeing my xserver usage increase23:34
joey8iceroot:  Oh yes I agree - i have been on linux for a couple of years now and ditched windows then. I just havent done any special installing yet. I hold hands with software installer program and synaptic. Thanx23:34
joey8always learning though (thankfully)23:35
dr_willismax999:  this bug seems to kick in even if i just let the system sit at the lightdm login screen.23:35
dr_willisat leat it did during beta.23:35
phunyguy_t430sjoey8, we are all students, no matter how experienced we are.23:35
icerootjoey8: using the software installers like synaptic, apt-get and so on is always the best way to go23:35
joey8phunyguy_t430s: true true23:35
max999dr_willis, maybe there are better drivers avaible for you. got to go sadly but i wish you good luck on solving :)23:36
cdavisapt is broken too. I get grep: /boot/config-2.5.0-19-generic: No such file or directory23:36
icerootcdavis: what is the exact command you used and what is the exact error?23:36
iceroot!paste | cdavis23:36
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cdavisiceroot: apt-get update23:37
icerootcdavis: that command will never ever give that error-message23:37
icerootcdavis: as i said the complete command and the complete error please23:37
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cdavisiceroot: Sorry, I cannot because the laptop is hosed and at recover shell only.23:38
cdavisiceroot: and I meant upgrade not update. sorry23:39
simplew ANyone around that can help with GRUB?23:39
bobweaverDoes anyone know how to add a setting to dbus like if I want to add option for" com.canonical.Unity.Launcher" " color " thanks23:39
icerootcdavis: you are using ubuntu?23:40
cdavisiceroot: yes23:40
dr_willisOk. getting thousands of these messages in dmesg output.. cant seem to tell whats causing it...23:41
dr_willis[96219.543909] audit_printk_skb: 108 callbacks suppressed23:41
dr_willis[96219.543912] type=1701 audit(1355354588.589:269): auid=4294967295 uid=1000 gid=1000 ses=4294967295 pid=25553 comm="chrome" reason="seccomp" sig=0 syscall=2 compat=0 ip=0x7fc0ef23f6b0 code=0x5000023:41
icerootcdavis: and what is the initial error you are facing?23:41
phunyguy_t430sdr_willis, looks like Chrome23:41
dr_willisphunyguy_t430s:  ps is not showing any chrome running.23:41
phunyguy_t430scan check what pid 25553 is23:41
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dr_willisphunyguy_t430s:  the pid keeps changeing about every time i run dmesg.23:43
trismbobweaver: add it to the schema23:43
dr_willisin groups of about 8  same pid 8 times then it changes.23:44
cdavisiceroot: I think: I did an update this morning which updated the kernel. I did not reboot. Later in the day I tried to install bumblebee and then rebooted. The system now will not boot except in recovery mode. I am trying to purge bumblebee and get errors but I think it did remove. Now an apt-get update says dpkg was interrupted. you must manually run dpkg --configure -a23:44
phunyguy_t430sdr_willis, awesome.  must be keeling over and restarting23:44
dr_willisYep.23:44
cdavisWhen I run that it stalls at grep: /boot/config-2.5.0-19-generic: No such file or directory23:44
dr_willisbut ps ax | grep chrome shows nothing23:44
cdavis3.5 not 2.523:44
bobweavertrisim that is /usr/share/dbus-1/services file that is it ?23:44
icerootcdavis: ls /boot/config*23:45
icerootcdavis: what is listed there23:45
dr_willisphunyguy_t430s:  aha. killall chromium-browser might have done it.. siolly thing keeps adding itself to my .config/autorun23:45
phunyguy_t430sdr_willis: ttps://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/chromium-bugs/qC4R-Gm6x9423:46
phunyguy_t430serr23:46
cdavisCannot access /boot/config*: NO such file or directory. I am in recovery mode at the root prompt and I did a mount -o remount,rw /23:46
phunyguy_t430sdr_willis: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/chromium-bugs/qC4R-Gm6x9423:46
dr_willisnow i got about 3 dozen popups about plugins crashing ;)23:46
icerootcdavis: why you did that remount?23:46
phunyguy_t430sseems related23:46
cdavisiceroot:  wanted to apt-get remove the bumblebee software that I had installed23:47
dr_willisphunyguy_t430s:  yep.. system is now speedy.... ;)23:47
bobweavertrism, oh I see /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/23:47
icerootcdavis: that doesnt explain the remount23:47
phunyguy_t430scool.23:47
dr_willisweird htop was not showing chromium-browser at all23:47
cdavisthe recovery shell had mounted / ro23:47
phunyguy_t430sprobably why it was all confused!  :)23:47
phunyguy_t430sflash probablypuked.23:47
icerootdr_willis: htop is not showing zombies for example as default23:47
phunyguy_t430sflash probably puked.23:47
dr_willisi dont even know why chromium-browser keeps wanting to additself to my autorun stuff either..23:48
phunyguy_t430sdr_willis, regular ubuntu or xubuntu?23:48
dr_willisi definatly rememebr removeing chrompum-browser from ~/.config/autostart/ but it was back in again23:49
dr_willisnormal ubuntu here.23:49
phunyguy_t430sk.23:49
dr_willislooks likeim settimng firefox as my default browser. ;)23:50
phunyguy_t430sdr_willis, I stopped fighting that battle long ago  ;)23:51
dr_williseven if i just run chromium then stop it.. it still seems toleave some task running..23:51
phunyguy_t430sI seem to have lost xfce4-power-manager again  ><23:52
scarrsI need some help with quake 3 please... ihave installed quake3 properly and copied the pak files to the proper location (I think) but the program is saying I don't have the files or something.... help pls I dunno what to do...23:53
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ikoniayou need to be more specific with the problem scarrs23:54
scarrsI'll try to be23:55
phunyguy_t430sjust need clarification, to "rename" a PC, you just change /etc/hostname, and /etc/hosts, right? or am I missing osmething else that will bite me later?23:58
scarrsikonia: when I run quake 3 the program comes back saying that I don't have the pak files but I do.... they may be in the wrong location but I have tried /usr/share/games/baseq3 and /usr/lib/ioquake3/baseq323:58

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