[00:02] <davidokner> Hi, I'm having trouble with my boot setup. I created a boot-repair report here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1426446/
[00:04] <davidokner> I installed rEFit and was running Mac OS X and Ubuntu fine, but deleted the Ubuntu partition and tried to reinstall another version and Ubuntu gave me some error about GRUB and now I can't install Ubuntu anymore.
[00:04] <davidokner> Anyone familiar with fixing GRUB / rEFit and Mac OS X & Ubuntu Dual Boot?
[00:05] <davidokner> Also, does anyone know if I should select post-release to activate after installing the AMD driver or the regular one? A window pops up and asks.
[00:06] <davidokner> I should install the AMD driver right? What comes with Ubuntu does not have the AMD driver included right?
[00:07] <davidokner> I don't really understand enough about rEFIt and GRUB to know what is going on.
[00:08] <davidokner> I know that rEFIt is a boot manager and GRUB is a boot loader.
[00:08] <davidokner> I think I'd like to remove the boot loader GRUB.
[00:08] <Nik05> why?
[00:08] <davidokner> Nik05: It is not working right and I can't install Ubuntu.
[00:08] <Nik05> huh what?
[00:09] <davidokner> Nik05: Maybe you can help me.
[00:09] <Nik05> whats not working and why cant you install ubuntu?
[00:09] <davidokner> Nik05: I installed Ubuntu 12.10 dual booting with OS X using the rEFIt utility and it was working fine.
[00:10] <davidokner> Nik05: But I then wanted to increase the Ubuntu space so I went back to OSX and resized the partition smaller and went back to Ubuntu and deleted the linux partitions.
[00:11] <Nik05> linux partition?
[00:11] <davidokner> Nik05: After that I went to install Ubuntu 12.04 (because it supports the graphics driver I wanted) but at the end of installation it wouldn't install because of a GRUB error.
[00:11] <davidokner> Nik05: All of the Linux related partitions. There were 3.
[00:11] <Studentas1003> :)\
[00:12] <davidokner> One main partition, one swap, and the third I don't know.
[00:12] <Nik05> the partition with ubuntu on it and swap
[00:12] <Nik05> ok
[00:12] <davidokner> For some reason there were three
[00:12] <escott> davidokner, remove your illegal hackintosh installation and let grub manage the boot
[00:13] <davidokner> escott: I don't want to remove OS X, I want to dual boot, and I have a real Macintosh.
[00:13] <Nik05> so install ubuntu and let grub write MBR
[00:13] <escott> davidokner, then use bootcamp instead of refit
[00:13] <davidokner> escott: There is a reason to use rEFIt. I can't remember now.
[00:14] <Nik05> what is refit?
[00:14] <davidokner> A boot manager.
[00:14] <Nik05> cant you just use grub?
[00:14] <cosmicfires> how can I make nautilus my default file mgr?
[00:14] <davidokner> Even if I remove rEFIt, I'm not sure it will fix GRUB.
[00:14] <davidokner> Let me look up why I'm supposed to use rEFIt.
[00:15] <Nik05> update-grub :P
[00:15] <ChucKy> !help
[00:15] <davidokner> I'm not sure where GRUB actually is on the drive, but I think I want to remove it.
[00:15] <davidokner> So, that Ubuntu can replace it when it re-installs.
[00:16] <Studentas1003> lasdafdsfdg
[00:16] <davidokner> I want to replace the GRUB partition table with a fresh one.
[00:17] <escott> davidokner, grub doesn't have a partition table
[00:17] <JPMH> hurst4359
[00:17] <escott> davidokner, where grub is on the drive depends on which grub it is and what partition table the disk has
[00:17] <davidokner> escott: I got this utility boot-repair
[00:18] <redixot> hey everyone can someone help me with wireshark?
[00:18] <redixot> how can i assign an alias to ip address?
[00:19] <almoxarife> redixot: is the ip within your local net?
[00:19] <samd> redixot: there are multiples ways to do that, if you just want to do it for your computer, you can add a new entry in the file /etc/hosts, just add a line with the format "IP ALIAS"
[00:21] <redixot> almoxarife: no
[00:21] <redixot> samd: okthx
[00:23] <alusion> http://imgur.com/VElP1 how come I have no screensavers?
[00:24] <almoxarife> alusion: you have not installed any other than the shown one
[00:25] <alusion> there's no option to install more though
[00:26] <escott> alusion, b/c screensavers are not shipped with the os anymore. you could try and install xscreensaver, but im not sure how to activate it
[00:27] <alusion> I have xscreensaver, however I too have problems with configuring or making it work
[00:28] <alusion> o, you launch xscreensaver demo
[00:28] <blackshirt> !info vnc4server
[00:29] <alusion> lol flying toasters that is old as hell
[00:35] <davidokner> Can anyone tell me if rEFIt will protect my system better?
[00:35] <Nik05> protect?
[00:35] <Nik05> david use grub
[00:35] <davidokner> Nik05: Ruining my boot loaders etc.
[00:36] <Nik05> its bootstraps ubuntu
[00:36] <davidokner> ubuntu.com told me to use rEFIt.
[00:36] <horseatingweeds> I just used kubuntu's partition editor to simply shrink a Windows partition and create a new one for Kubuntu. Each time I set it up the first step included moving the windows partition 'right' by a few MB. After the repartitioning finished, windows wouldn't boot and it was unable to repair itself. Any ideas what happened?
[00:36] <davidokner> I don't have to install GRUB myself though right, Ubunti will just do that and detect I have OSX installed?
[00:37] <davidokner> This is where I learned about rEFIt. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[00:37] <hilo> Can anyone point me in the right direction for a network caching solution? I am looking for something that is sort of like bcache, but for NFS or other file based data (as opposed to block devices like bcache is designed for).
[00:37] <Nik05> horseatingweeds why moving the windoes partition?
[00:37] <Nik05> that shouldnt happen
[00:38] <davidokner> Ok, I'm going to uninstall rEFIt and try to install Ubuntu without it and see if I still get the GRUB error.
[00:38] <davidokner> I think that the boot partition is messed up though and uninstalling rEFIt won't fix that because it didn't cause it. I think I caused it by deleting partitions or something.
[00:39] <davidokner> ok brb
[00:39] <hilo> davidokner, what exactly are you trying to do
[00:39] <davidokner> hilo: I'm trying to fix my computer so I can install Ubuntu again.
[00:39] <davidokner> hilo: I tried to install Ubuntu on my free space and it got to the end and gave a GRUB error.
[00:40] <davidokner> hilo: I am dual booting OS X and Ubuntu and followed the directions at Ubuntu.com with rEFIt and it worked.
[00:41] <hilo> davidokner, Can you boot the system into either OS right now?
[00:41] <davidokner> hilo: But I realized the version I installed 12.10 didn't support my AMD drivers and I didn't have enough partition space so I deleted the linux partitions and tried to install Ubuntu again, that is when at the end of the installation I got a GRUB error.
[00:41] <davidokner> hilo: Yes, I can still boot into OS X, but I deleted Ubuntu in order to re-install it and the re-install failed, so I can't boot into that any more.
[00:42] <horseatingweeds> NikOS: It wasn't my intention to move it. I just shrank it and created an additional one. Oddly, the first step included moving it, which took 2 hours.
[00:42] <davidokner> hilo: Somehow when I deleted the partitions and resized the mac partition I screwed up the boot partition map so I can't install Ubuntu again.
[00:42] <Treadstone__71> Is there a system log viewer in Fedora ?
[00:42] <davidokner> hilo: Right now I just have one partition on my drive for OS X and the rest is free space, but Ubuntu won't install on there.
[00:43] <davidokner> hilo: (like it did the first time)
[00:43] <davidokner> hilo: I still have rEFIt on there.
[00:43] <davidokner> hilo: I also ran a utility called boot-repair to create a report on my boot partitions.
[00:44] <Nik05> Treadstone NSA would know
[00:44] <davidokner> hilo: Do you know what is going on with my computer?
[00:44] <Nik05> but this is ubuntu.... and /var/log has logs
[00:44] <hilo> davidokner, So when you start up your system, you come to rEFIt menu and choose OSX?
[00:45] <davidokner> hilo: yes, and that works.
[00:45] <davidokner> hilo: If I wanted to get the GRUB error again I'd have to repeat the install, because I didn't write it down.
[00:45] <Nik05> horseatingweeds well moving the partition... not sure what that did
[00:46] <davidokner> hilo: It is acting like GRUB is still there and telling it something that is no longer accurate.
[00:46] <Nik05> have you tried windows dvd to fiz it?
[00:46] <davidokner> hilo: I don't know if or how I could erase GRUB
[00:46] <Nik05> fix*
[00:46] <davidokner> hilo: I think rEFIt points to either the OS X boot loader or the GRUB boot loader, maybe there are two tables.
[00:46] <hilo> davidokner, I don't know a whole lot about rEFIt, or how GRUB with OSX, but I have had success fixing corrupt GRUB and that sort of thing.
[00:47] <davidokner> hilo: Well, that is probably all that is wrong.
[00:47] <cosmicfires> how can I make nautilus my default file mgr?
[00:47] <davidokner> hilo: I just don't know how to fix GRUB.
[00:47] <davidokner> hilo: Do you ever use the GUI program "boot-repair"?
[00:48] <davidokner> hilo: there is a button "Reccomended repair (repairs most frequent problems)" but I have not pressed it yet.
[00:48] <almoxarife> davidokner: press it
[00:48] <davidokner> hilo: I'm in Ubuntu Live.
[00:48] <hilo> davidokner, no. I use a bootable ubuntu install cd to start a live environment. You can then take over a broken linux install and fix the grub that way
[00:49] <davidokner> hilo: I deleted the Ubuntu partitions. I'm in Live CD now.
[00:50] <davidokner> I have to close all programs.
[00:50] <hilo> davidokner, what does your drive look like in gparted
[00:54] <BubbaGump> hi
[00:55] <Bassoopioka> Hi i have a toshiba laptop (satellite l355d-s7901) and i installed ubuntu on it succesfully but the problem is i cant connect to the internet with wlan it finds my zyxel modem and says it is connected but no internet what to do ? ^^ words of caution noob in control here
[00:55] <BubbaGump> try iwconfig
[00:55] <BubbaGump> then ifconfig wlan0 up
[00:55] <psusi> or check the nework settings via the gui...
[00:56] <BubbaGump> or whatever your interface is
[00:56] <phunyguy_t430s> BubbaGump, probably best to start simple (in linux noob terms, not linux expert terms).
[00:56] <BubbaGump> oops sorry
[00:57] <scarrz> hello all, after about 10 years of ubuntu I am gonna try a text mode install of ubuntu server... suggestions for IRC, Internet browsing and other cool must haves?
[00:57] <phunyguy_t430s> scarrz, just doing it for giggles?
[00:57] <scarrz> no i'm serious about it
[00:58] <kvothetech> scarrz: text mode install doesn't mean you won't have a gui....but uh links, weechat, mc, vim
[00:58] <phunyguy_t430s> scrazz, also borderline !poll
[00:58] <scarrz> k lemmee write this down....
[00:58] <kvothetech> scarrz: tmux/screen......
[00:58] <phunyguy_t430s> !poll
[00:58] <scarrz> kk my bad
[00:58] <phunyguy_t430s> scarzz***
[00:58] <scarrz> lemmee rephrase
[00:59] <Bassoopioka> i went to iwconfig but it says when i type "ifconfig wlan0 up" acces denied
[00:59] <phunyguy_t430s> Bassoopioka, add sudo before it
[00:59] <phunyguy_t430s> but forget that for now
[01:00] <scarrz> what is a easy to use text mode http browser?
[01:00] <phunyguy_t430s> right click the network icon up on the top right and hit "connection info"
[01:00] <phunyguy_t430s> scarrz, link2
[01:00] <scarrz> ty
[01:00] <phunyguy_t430s> links2*
[01:01] <scarrz> what do I need to install to have mouse support in text mode?
[01:01] <Bassoopioka> in the "connection info" what info do you need ?
[01:01] <phunyguy_t430s> Bassoopioka, iwconfig probably wont get you anywhere because of NetworkManager
[01:01] <phunyguy_t430s> Bassoopioka, what does it say for IP address?
[01:02] <phunyguy_t430s> errr
[01:02] <phunyguy_t430s> yeah
[01:02] <Bassoopioka> 192.168.1.2
[01:02] <phunyguy_t430s> ok. that is good.  Primary DNS?
[01:02] <kvothetech> phunyguy_t430s: depends what 192.168.1.2 has for dns...
[01:02] <Bassoopioka> ip adresses seems correct to me (have some experience with those) 192.168.1.1
[01:03] <phunyguy_t430s> kvothetech, it depends on what the ISP assigns for DNS as well as the DHCP server on the modem/
[01:03] <phunyguy_t430s> Bassoopioka, what does it say for primary DNS?
[01:04] <kvothetech> phunyguy_t430s: yeah...unless his modem has 8.8.8.8 or 4.2.2.2 set though i'd probably change it..
[01:04] <Bassoopioka> primary dns is 192.168.1.1
[01:04] <phunyguy_t430s> Bassoopioka, Did you set up the modem?
[01:04] <davidokner> Anyone know if there is a difference between no partition and "free space" partition?
[01:04] <Tex_Nick> scarrz : i just joined channel, so have missed your previous posts ... when you say "Text Mode" do you mean "Terminal Mode" ?
[01:05] <Bassoopioka> yes but it worked perfectly when i used windows half a week ago =D
[01:05] <kvothetech> Tex_Nick: text mode is ncurses ...which runs in terminal doesn't it?
[01:05] <escott> davidokner, you can have partitioned but not formatted. "free space" partition is a contradiction of terms
[01:05] <kvothetech> Tex_Nick: or is that different in ubuntu
[01:05] <davidokner> escott: In OSX I can create a "free space" partition.
[01:05] <phunyguy_t430s> Bassoopioka, is it a cheap modem? for DSL?
[01:05] <phunyguy_t430s> or is it a USB modem on the laptop?
[01:06] <phunyguy_t430s> (I dont know the brands)
[01:06] <davidokner> escott: I think I'll just leave no partition.
[01:06] <davidokner> Ok, I'm going back to Ubunti Live disc
[01:06] <escott> davidokner, OSX can make up all manner of terms
[01:06] <Bassoopioka> my modem is zyxel p660hn-t1a
[01:07] <Tex_Nick> kvothetech : yeah would seem the same ... i was wondering if scarrz was just wanting to copy/paste to the terminal ?
[01:07] <phunyguy_t430s> Bassoopioka, I understand, is the modem a separate box?
[01:07] <Bassoopioka> yeah
[01:08] <phunyguy_t430s> Bassoopioka, I am thinking you have a bad DNS configuration on your DHCP server
[01:08] <phunyguy_t430s> (on the "modem")
[01:08] <Tex_Nick> using the mouse
[01:08] <Bassoopioka> ok i will check the dns setup on my modem
[01:08] <phunyguy_t430s> Bassoopioka, do you have access to the web interface?
[01:09] <almoxarife> Bassoopioka: is there another machine within the network that can get internet?
[01:09] <phunyguy_t430s> good call almoxarife
[01:09] <phunyguy_t430s> :)
[01:10] <almoxarife> Bassoopioka: of if dualboot, does win get out?
[01:11] <Bassoopioka> no dual boot just only ubuntu
[01:11] <almoxarife> phunyguy_t430s: some people (me) have a router prior to the modem, i cant do much to the modem
[01:11] <almoxarife> Bassoopioka: is there another machine within the network that can get internet?
[01:11] <Bassoopioka> yes im using it as we speak =D
[01:12] <almoxarife> Bassoopioka: its not the network end, its system related then (particular machine)
[01:18] <joey8> hi, i have a pkg file that i need to install but i am not sure how to - can someone help me please
[01:19] <escott> joey8, sudo dpkg -i package.dpkg
[01:19] <joey8> thanx escott
[01:20] <Bassoopioka> fixed the problem =D
[01:22] <Bassoopioka> it was the modem it has a button on it wlan on/off went to web interface and turned it on there button must be broken or something thx for the help anyways ^^
[01:22] <bradlee> select textinput FROM irssi_logs WHERE MATCH(textinput) AGAINST('modem')
[01:22] <bradlee> UNION
[01:25] <escott> bradlee, what kind of SQL is that?
[01:28] <tdignan> Hey, currently updating my system here. I found a bug in either Terminator or Unity. Can someone help me confirm it? Run terminator on your (updated) system, split the window, the click the menu icon in the top left of the terminator window and drag. Move your mouse near the edge of terminator. Result should be a crash.
[01:28] <somsip> escott: mySQL on a full text index by the look of it
[01:29] <tdignan> oh, terminator has to be fullscreened and...
[01:29] <tdignan> then you need to drag it to one of the edges of the screen
[01:30] <Guest33311> hi guys i need a help with audio of my desktop someone here speak portuguese?
[01:30] <onborad> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: noXFree86DRIExtension
[01:30] <Guest33311> alguem pode me ajudar?
[01:30] <onborad> I use xorg 1.13
[01:31] <Guest33311> i use ubuntu 12.04 and need help to config my sound
[01:31] <Guest33311> someone can help me?
[01:31] <jcr> what is the most up to date linux kernel I can use for 12.04 64bit
[01:31] <dr_willis> !sound
[01:32] <Guest33311> my problem is with my off board sound
[01:32] <brie987> Im running xubuntu 10,04 on an iBook G4 having wifi issues with B43 open/ucode5 fw
[01:33] <Guest33311> i need config my home theater
[01:34] <Guest33311> well i go check this links first thanks for help =D
[01:34] <dr_willis> Off board mean?
[01:34] <dr_willis> Means?
[01:35] <xangua> !info linux | jrc
[01:35] <ScottJensen> apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[01:36] <Guest33311> yes off board sound
[01:36] <Guest33311> is a via
[01:36] <devinsba> has anyone installed/build the delegate proxy on any recent versions ubuntu?
[01:37] <brie987> @scott, I did that and it would connect but i will lose both wifi and wired all together after a couple boot ups
[01:37] <brie987> it is so strange and I am at wits end.
[01:37] <ScottJensen> brie987: :/ sorry thats all I got
[01:38] <brie987> Scott:  thats ok thank you for helping :)
[01:38] <Guest33311> this is the off board want i have
[01:38] <Guest33311> Encore Enm232 6 Via
[01:38] <ScottJensen> brie987: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20Internet%20access ??
[01:38] <Guest33311> sorry for my english i stay learning hehe
[01:39] <brie987> Scott:  Im running on an iBook G4 PPC is Ubuntu 10,04 the highest for a PPC?  I know even this is not REALLY official
[01:40] <ScottJensen> brie987: no idea
[01:40] <ScottJensen> brie987: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64
[01:41] <OerHeks> brie987, 12.04 is the latest >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/
[01:41] <brie987> Scott: Thanks again.  Friend gave me this G4 PPC and I thought putting a really low intense Linux on it would make it fast and usable but it being a PPC makes it a bit harder
[01:42] <ScottJensen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[01:42] <brie987> OerHeks:  Does it run well on a PPC?  I have it running now without wifi and it is asking to update to 12.04, should I?
[01:42] <ScottJensen> looks like you can run all versions
[01:42] <jagginess> brie987, yaboot can be used for linux on PPC .. there's wikis for linux for ppc (and there's non-ubuntu linuxes like debian, if ubuntu doesnt work well on ppc)
[01:43] <OerHeks> some wifi problems with apple are hardwareissues
[01:43] <ScottJensen> I could only get wifi to work in 11
[01:43] <jagginess> brie987, yaboot == same concept as "grub" --  boot loaders
[01:43] <jagginess> brie987, (for ppc)
[01:43] <brie987> Scott:  Been there, I get it to load and run but after a couple boots I loose all Network connections wired and wireless
[01:44] <brie987> OerHeks: im comming to that conclusion.  I actually have a wifi dongle on it now and it is working but I just reinstalled so in the next couple hours i will see if it actually keeps my network connections or die like the other installs.
[01:45] <ScottJensen> "you're holding it wrong" hehe
[01:45] <samholmes> difference between init.d and init?
[01:45] <brie987> Hahahaha
[01:46] <mensvaga> samholmes: long story short, /etc/init.d is a directory with services that get stopped and stopped at different run levels
[01:46] <ignarps> resolvconf -u doesn't seem to be updating my resolv.conf information from the settings in /etc/network/interface
[01:47] <ignarps> Does anyone know how to get resolvconf to reread the entries and generate a new resolv.conf file ?
[01:47] <mensvaga> and init is the "first process" on a *nix system.  You should google the rest.
[01:47] <jagginess> samholmes, init is upstart (see the wiki on upstart).. currently the bootup process is still evolving, so it is hybrid and includes sys-v script methods (init.d)
[01:47] <tryingUbuntu> using log file viewer in Ubuntu 12.10 how would I delete the logs??  theres tons of theem
[01:48] <jagginess> samholmes, init is the successor for ubuntu
[01:48] <samholmes> jagginess: init.d is the old way?
[01:48] <jagginess> samholmes, well init.d is the traditional method.. not all distros are going "upstart"
[01:49] <jagginess> !upstart
[01:49] <brie987> So the best ubuntu distro for an iBook G4 PPC is??????????
[01:50] <jagginess> brie987, none
[01:50] <brie987> jagginess: Hahahahha, well the better of the evils than.
[01:51] <jagginess> brie987, ^ wrote ya, if ubuntu is problematic, there's also debian for ppc
[01:51] <ScottJensen> Id try the latest, and keep going down from there.
[01:51] <ScottJensen> sad answer
[01:52]  * jagginess would google debian wiki ppc
[01:53] <alusion>  I have two text files of almost the same thing. How do I combine them without duplicates?
[01:53] <brie987> Scott: no its not I like trying even when most are errors, I get to learn the quirks of many, learn learn 'throw something' learn some more  :)
[01:53] <phunyguy_t430s> jagginess, brie987, if noobness is an issue... debian may not be the answer.
[01:53] <phunyguy_t430s> brie987, proceed at your own risk.  :)
[01:55] <brie987> jagginess:  noobness is about half, I have been trying mintppc and that is a debian that is all over the place,  thanks.  I tried and your right it may not be the answer
[01:55] <ScottJensen> alusion: sdiff
[01:55] <phunyguy_t430s> also brie987, there are special builds for PPA, but as for stability, I don't think it can be supported here.
[01:55] <phunyguy_t430s> PPC***
[01:56] <phunyguy_t430s> one final note:
[01:56] <brie987> phunyguy: its a handme down so im ready for the worst 'knockknock' or/and the best, gotstoo try
[01:56] <phunyguy_t430s> !poll | brie987
[01:56] <phunyguy_t430s> :)
[01:57] <brie987> Ubottu:  Thanks that is a new one and i will!
[01:57] <phunyguy_t430s> !bot
[01:58] <phunyguy_t430s> alusion, not really sure what you are asking.
[01:58] <ScottJensen> alusion: sdiff
[01:58] <ignarps> I have verified the /etc/resolv.conf is the proper symlink to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf and I have checked that updates-enabled is set
[01:59] <phunyguy_t430s> ScottJensen, missed that in the mix.  thanks.
[01:59] <ignarps> I have tried to restart resolvconf via /etc/init.d/resolvconf restart;  tried the resolvconf -u that the manual shows
[01:59] <ignarps> but my /etc/resolv.conf file won't update the dns list from /etc/network/interfaces
[01:59] <ignarps> Has anyone seen this work ?
[02:06] <ScottJensen> nope
[02:06] <ignarps> trying to avoid a reboot to fix this
[02:07] <tripelb> do they make Ubuntu for a G4 Mac?  384 ram
[02:08] <xwalk> tripelb: You might want to look into Lubuntu for something that low spec.
[02:08] <xangua> ignarps: so you just want to change your dns¿
[02:08] <kvothetech> tripelb: if you can find a powerpc architechture version
[02:09] <tripelb> OK
[02:09] <ignarps> xangua, yes I am trying to use resolvconf like 12.04 wants us to.  but reading the man page.  resolvconf -u should reread the info from /etc/network/interfaces.  but it isn't
[02:09] <_d4vid> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qwHYpLjaKI join guys
[02:09] <ignarps> xerxas, this is on a server so no network-manager
[02:10] <xangua> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ just use gksu gedit instead of sudo
[02:13] <ignarps> xangua: thanks for trying but I don't use dhcp on this.  It is a server not a desktop
[02:14] <pythonirc1011> unity is turning out to be slow on my VM. Any suggestions what I can move to? gnome perhaps?
[02:15] <psusi> a G4 is like a 10 year old computer... way past time to upgrade
[02:15] <gustav__> Window Maker.
[02:16] <pythonirc1011> gustav__: was that for me?
[02:17] <gustav__> Yep.
[02:17] <schnoodles--e> Anyone know why FileZilla might work on a particular FTP site but 'connect to server' does not ?
[02:18] <jcr> what is the most recent linux kernel that is useable for 12.04 64bit
[02:18] <pythonirc1011> gustav__: I'd prefer installing something from ubuntu repos. not adding a repo
[02:18] <gustav__> pythonirc1011: Blackbox?
[02:18] <pythonirc1011> jcr: I'm using 350
[02:19] <krywk> Hey guys.
[02:19] <krywk> I'm having a bit of a problem here.
[02:19] <krywk> I'm trying to play PoxNora on Ubuntu 12.04.
[02:19] <krywk> It's based on Java.
[02:19] <krywk> According to the official site, it can be played on Linux.
[02:19] <jcr> pythonirc1011:  did you use the deb releases or compile from the main branch
[02:20] <krywk> When I press the 'Launch Game' button, it downloads a .JNLP file instead of launching the game.
[02:20] <krywk> I tried opening the JNLP file with IcedTea Web Start
[02:20] <pythonirc1011> jcr: I didn't do anything
[02:20] <krywk> and I get a window that says 'Downloading'...
[02:20] <krywk> My question is
[02:20] <krywk> Why doesn't it launch right off?
[02:20] <kvothetech> kwthen you don't have java or it's not setup in your browser
[02:20] <pythonirc1011> gustav__: how do I tell startx to use blackbox?
[02:21] <abel> list channel
[02:21] <kvothetech> pythonirc1011: edit .xinitrc
[02:21] <krywk> I'm using Google Chrome.
[02:21] <krywk> Java IS installed
[02:21] <krywk> and it IS configured to work with Chrome
[02:21] <gustav__> pythonirc1011: What he said. ~/.xinitrc
[02:23] <krywk> So uh
[02:23] <krywk> Any help?
[02:23] <krywk> :/
[02:27] <elena-IK> if a program outputs to both stdout and stderr, is there a way to have both displayed normally and additionally stderr written to a file? (basically what tee does, but only stderr written to a file)
[02:28] <dr_willis> Thers that &1 and &2 syntax. To. Bash.  But #bash may be berrer to ask in
[02:32] <Toph3> i did a default install of ubuntu the other day and it installs into one partition. Why doesn't it at least place mount on / and /home?
[02:32] <Jordan_U> elena-IK: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/047
[02:33] <davidokner> Hi
[02:33] <jrib> Toph3: you choose that during install
[02:33] <davidokner> hilo: the boot repair fixed it.
[02:34] <dr_willis> my /home/ is on its own hard drive. :-P
[02:34] <Toph3> jrgifford,,, yes, i generally do, this time I neglected to do so
[02:34] <davidokner> Do I install AMD driver or AMD driver (post-release updates) ?
[02:35] <davidokner> I mean "activate"
[02:35] <davidokner> Which AMD driver do I activate "poste-release updates" or regular?
[02:35] <dr_willis> use the normal one first i suggest
[02:35] <davidokner> I can easily change it later?
[02:35] <elena-IK> Jordan_U: thanks
[02:35] <dr_willis> post release is not as tested
[02:36] <davidokner> I can't tell the difference. ok
[02:36] <Toph3> dr_willis,,, if I mount / on my ssd and /home on a HD, will I lose much speed from mounting both on my SSD?
[02:36] <davidokner> Ubuntu 10.4 automatically prompted me to download and install AMD driver, but 12.10 didn't.
[02:36] <davidokner> 12.4
[02:37] <davidokner> I think ubuntu.com shouldn't be pointing people to 12.10 until the graphics drivers for AMD are out.
[02:37] <dr_willis> Toph3: depends on what you do with the sys>em
[02:37] <Jordan_U> elena-IK: Following http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3618078/pipe-only-stderr-through-a-filter, you can also do this: command 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3 3>&- | tee /path/to/sdterr.txt
[02:37] <escott> Toph3, things like firefox like to hit a lot of little files in $HOME. so they would be somewhat slower to start up, but the boot would be fast
[02:37] <Jordan_U> elena-IK: You're welcome.
[02:37] <davidokner> I installed Ubuntu 12.10 and found out that AMD drivers weren't supported.
[02:37] <davidokner> That is not trivial.
[02:37] <escott> Jordan_U, what is 3?
[02:38] <pv2b> unfortunately, ubuntu releases on a 6-month cycle.
[02:38] <dr_willis> and drivers work for a lot of people in 12.10
[02:38] <Jordan_U> escott: File descriptor number 3.
[02:38] <davidokner> If AMD or Nvidia aren't supported I think that version isn't ready to point a regular user to.
[02:38] <escott> Jordan_U, well yes, but i've never heard of that as a standardized FD
[02:38] <psusi> davidokner, they are supported, but AMD dropped support in their proprietary driver for some older chips
[02:39] <dr_willis> amd and nvidia both work for me.
[02:39] <psusi> escott, that's because it isn't a standard fd
[02:39] <davidokner> psusi: If you install AMD driver with Ubuntu 12.10 you get no Unity interface, just blank desktop.
[02:39] <dr_willis> amd us allways eager to drop support for older cards
[02:39] <Jordan_U> escott: It's not standardized as anything other than a file descriptor, only 1 and 2 are special. You could also do 6>&1 .
[02:39] <davidokner> This is not the older chips I'm talking about.
[02:39] <psusi> davidokner, apparently AMD's driver does't work for you
[02:40] <dr_willis> davidokner:  it depends on your exact card
[02:40] <davidokner> psusi: It is well reported.
[02:40] <davidokner> dr_willis: Oh, maybe it works for some.
[02:40] <psusi> davidokner, so? don't use amd's driver then
[02:40] <dr_willis> it works for many.....
[02:40] <davidokner> dr_willis: If you don't install the drivers you won't get the performance.
[02:41] <psusi> the open source drivers have been working just fine for me for a few years now
[02:41] <davidokner> I wasn't sure, I thought you had to install the AMD driver to get good performing graphics.
[02:41] <psusi> nope
[02:41] <davidokner> What about in games?
[02:41] <psusi> their driver is often better, but the open source one is generally just fine
[02:41] <davidokner> ah, ok
[02:42] <davidokner> In Ubuntu 12.04 there is no restart in the power menu.
[02:42] <psusi> and still supports much of the older hardware amd's driver has dropped
[02:42] <dr_willis> you will never get perfect support
[02:42] <davidokner> I think things are going to get better with graphics support in Ubuntu thanks to Valve Software.
[02:42] <davidokner> The Valve console will be using Linux.
[02:43] <psusi> what does valve have to do with it?
[02:43] <davidokner> Valve is releasing a console with steam and linux.
[02:43] <psusi> they make games, not video drivers
[02:43] <davidokner> And getting AMD and Nvidia to improve drivers.
[02:43] <pv2b> valve is actively working with GPU manufacturers to make better graphics drivers for linux. intel notably.
[02:43] <dr_willis> ill belive it when i se
[02:43] <pv2b> let me see if i can find a reference on that.
[02:43] <pv2b> there we go. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE0MzQ
[02:43] <davidokner> Also, think about it. Once there is a console that uses linux, they are going to want to make better support even if Valve wasn't helping them.
[02:44] <davidokner> There is a very good chance that Linux will be the primary game OS.
[02:44] <psusi> not really... it's up to the console maker to make their console work with the one video card they put in it...
[02:45] <phunyguy_t430s> might be !ot
[02:45] <phunyguy_t430s> just saying
[02:45] <psusi> that doesn't give the video makers any reason to do general Linux support
[02:45] <davidokner> You can sell more video cards if you support linux if it is used in a big game platform.
[02:45] <phunyguy_t430s> !ot
[02:45] <psusi> no, you just have to support the one that is used in the big game platform
[02:46] <phunyguy_t430s> channel police.
[02:46] <dr_willis> that logic hasent work
[02:46] <psusi> with just the firmware that ships with it
[02:46] <cynixx3> anyone know about proxy servers?
[02:46] <phunyguy_t430s> !anyone | cynixx3
[02:46] <davidokner> Do you guys have any opinion on rEFInd?
[02:47] <davidokner> Do you guys have any opinion on rEFInd vs. rEFIt?
[02:47] <phunyguy_t430s> !poll | davidokner
[02:47] <cynixx3> Ok, Im getting an 403 user not allowed, Im trying to use tinyproxy I dont knwo where to look
[02:48] <davidokner> Can I uninstall rEFIt and not lose Ubuntu, or screw it up?
[02:48] <davidokner> I want to see if I can replace rEFIt with rEFInd.
[02:50] <cynixx3> !details
[02:51] <cynixx3> !gq
[02:51] <escott> davidokner, you really shouldn't need refit. the OSX boot menu should offer any bootcamp bios setups, and the efi menu should offer any efi options
[02:51] <cynixx3> !wallawalladingdongchime
[02:52] <davidokner> escott: Ok, I'll have to try without. I installed rEFIt because ubuntu.com instruction on mac dual boot said to do that first.
[02:52] <escott> davidokner, macs are weird and their efi implementation is broken so maybe if you are trying an efi boot you need it
[02:53] <dr_willis> i thought macs  were perfect....   ;-)
[02:54] <joe> Hello
[02:54] <dr_willis> howdy
[02:55] <Guest42557> I have an issue. I logged on to my laptop (running Ubuntu 12.04 w/ Gnome Classic) and my language was set to Chinese (or something similar).
[02:55] <cynixx3> HAHA!
[02:55] <_Tristan> Hi. I'm trying to set up efi booting but the tutorial isn't helping me... can anybody help?
[02:56] <Caliber> Iv'e set the language to EN on the log in screen and ive gone into /etc/default/locale and changed all the settings to the english setting. Nothing has worked.
[02:56] <Caliber> Any ideas?
[02:56] <dr_willis> try making a new user. see what language they get
[02:57] <Caliber> Alright, I shall try that. It's very odd because I haven't changed any setting (that I know of).
[02:57] <Caliber> BRB!
[02:59] <escott> _Tristan, maybe
[02:59] <_Tristan> I need to make an efi partition, right? 100mb at the beginning of the drive?
[03:00] <escott> _Tristan, for pure EFI yes
[03:00] <_Tristan> I'll need a live usb for that. After I create that partition, what should I do escott?
[03:01] <sleepee> hello people.  i've got a quick question.
[03:02] <escott> _Tristan, install ubuntu. make sure grub-efi gets installed
[03:02] <_Tristan> install ubuntu?
[03:02] <escott> _Tristan, in fact the installer should handle everything
[03:02] <_Tristan> I have to reinstall entirely?
[03:02] <escott> _Tristan, if you are already installed i guess install grub-efi
[03:02] <_Tristan> I just installed it a few weeks ago, and it didn't set up efi stuff
[03:02] <_Tristan> it didn't make the efi partition, though
[03:02] <phunyguy_t430s> hmmm... EFI.... I remember having issues with that as well.
[03:03] <sleepee> i've been an ubuntu user for some time, but recently i've been dabbling in red hat based distros and discovered the wonders of LVM.  now, i'm curious as to whether the ubuntu installer lets you set up LVM because i can't find it for the life of me.
[03:03] <Caliber> Yay! I went to make the new account (as suggested) and I was that my account (and the new accounts default) was set to Chinese. Used Google translate to figure out what English (American) was in Chinese and bam, fixed.
[03:03] <Caliber> Thanks!
[03:03] <escott> _Tristan, a lot of efi implementations these days will boot different media in different modes. so usb keys in bios mode, disks in efi or the reverse
[03:03] <escott> _Tristan, that could account for an installed system being not what you want
[03:03] <_Tristan> is there anything I can do?
[03:04] <escott> sleepee, alternate supports it
[03:04] <_Tristan> besides rolling over and dying?
[03:04] <escott> _Tristan, in the efi setup you can switch options around
[03:04] <_Tristan> in the bios?
[03:04] <escott> _Tristan, technically its not "bios" but yes
[03:04] <sleepee> you mean the alternate install cd?
[03:04] <escott> sleepee, yes
[03:05] <_Tristan> escott: so the big blue interface that looks like a bios that I access by hitting f2 during boot?
[03:05] <phunyguy_t430s> Ubuntu installer ASKED me if I wanted to set up LVM...
[03:05] <sleepee> ok.. cool!  thanks for the info!
[03:05] <escott> _Tristan, yes.
[03:05] <phunyguy_t430s> however it is a generic setup I assume.
[03:05] <_Tristan> escott: unfortunately, being a laptop "bios", it's somewhat limited in options. It only lets be set EFI to "auto" or "disabled"
[03:05] <sleepee> wait... which installer?
[03:05] <escott> _Tristan, im trying to break my own habit of calling it "bios" because... its not
[03:06] <_Tristan> is there something else I should call it?
[03:06] <_Tristan> I mean, big blue interface sounds pretty good I guess.
[03:06] <escott> _Tristan, efi setup would probably be the correct term. but in any case, auto would presumably trigger when it saw an efi partition on a gpt disk
[03:06] <_Tristan> gpt disk...
[03:07] <gustav__> When I'm trying to play a BluRay I lended off the local library, with VLC, I get this: "Error calculating media key. Missing right processing key" Any ideas on how to fix it?
[03:07] <escott> _Tristan, i guess format the efi partition as fat and then install grub-efi
[03:07] <_Tristan> does that stand for gyroscopic partition tits?
[03:07] <escott> _Tristan, guid partition table
[03:07] <_Tristan> oh, that makes sense
[03:07] <_Tristan> should I install grub-efi from my live usb?
[03:08] <escott> _Tristan, sure you could do that from a chroot
[03:08] <OerHeks> gustav__, there is no way to play protected blueray discs yet, AFAIk
[03:08] <_Tristan> chroot? What is this sorcery??
[03:08] <gustav__> OerHeks: This, http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/, usually works.
[03:08] <mazda01> trying to unmount a partition and I get umount: /media/1tb: device is busy.
[03:08] <jagginess> _Tristan, your disk is gpt?
[03:09] <_Tristan> should it be?
[03:09] <mazda01> i've tried using sudo lsof but nothing appears to be accessing that device. can i just unplug it? its a usb external hard drive
[03:09] <dr_willis> mazda01: close all apps acessing it
[03:09] <escott> _Tristan, what does sudo parted -l say on the fourth line?
[03:09] <mazda01> dr_willis: i just said, there's no apps accessing it, none in lsof anyway
[03:09] <_Tristan> "Partition Table: msdos"
[03:10] <OerHeks> gustav__, so why does that not work ?
[03:10] <jagginess> _Tristan, if your disk is not gpt, your hybridbios should not be set to 'strict' efi -- hence you don't use grub-efi but grub-pc
[03:10] <dr_willis> mazda01: you can use the sync command to force a sync befor pulling plug
[03:10] <escott> _Tristan, so you aren't setup for efi boot
[03:10] <_Tristan> :(
[03:10] <gustav__> OerHeks: Well, I don't know, like I said, I get that message.
[03:10] <_Tristan> that makes sad. Cry.
[03:10] <mazda01> dr_willis: hows that?
[03:10] <dr_willis> mazda01: make sure no terms are  cd'd into it
[03:10] <escott> _Tristan, he system probably boots the install usb in bios mode which then installed the system as a bios system
[03:11] <escott> _Tristan, if you want to convert you can... but unless you have a reason to
[03:11] <dr_willis> sync  clears out the writeing buffers to disk
[03:11] <_Tristan> I guess I don't need to...
[03:11] <_Tristan> isn't efi faster?
[03:11] <escott> _Tristan, no
[03:11] <_Tristan> I was just looking for something to do this evening...
[03:11] <_Tristan> guess I'll have to install systemd instead
[03:11] <mazda01> dr_willis:  it's a headless server and I only access it via ssh. i am basically removing that drive cause it has bad sectors, so I am replacing the hdd inside the enclosure
[03:11] <escott> _Tristan, if you want to convert go read rodsbooks.com
[03:12] <mazda01> dr_willis: in that case will it just be ok to unplug it?
[03:12] <dr_willis> mazda01:  should be.
[03:12] <SpeedArtBot> Say something please?
[03:12] <mazda01> dr_willis: yeah, I am seeing a whole bunch of this in the kern.log end_request: I/O error, dev sde, sector 1079757874
[03:13] <dr_willis> safest would be reboot and pull it.
[03:13] <OerHeks> gustav__, i examined both 32 + 64 bit 'keys, the 64 bit one is old 21-Dec-2011
[03:13] <bazhang> SpeedArtBot, hi
[03:13] <dr_willis> SpeedArtBot:  moo
[03:13] <gustav__> OerHeks: What does that mean?
[03:14] <OerHeks> gustav__, maybe your BR disc is too new, dunno
[03:14] <gustav__> >_<
[03:14] <SpeedArtBot> Thanks, i guess this is working then?
[03:14] <gustav__> The library should really stop funding this type of shit.
[03:14] <bazhang> SpeedArtBot, are you a bot
[03:14] <OerHeks> gustav__,  http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/files/linux64/ & http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name:8080/files/linux32/
[03:15] <bazhang> gustav__, no cursing here
[03:15] <SpeedArtBot> if you can hear me, but yeah, i'm a bot, but at the moment i'm testing out the interface part. I can't connect to freenode, exces flood, so i figured go here and listen in.
[03:15] <gustav__> bazhang: What do you mean?
[03:15] <bazhang> SpeedArtBot, please dont test your bot here. remove it, thanks
[03:16] <bazhang> gustav__, NO foul language. NO cursing here.
[03:16] <gustav__> bazhang: Yes?
[03:17] <OerHeks> gustav__, so those keys are highly illegal, complaints to the owner of that site.
[03:18] <gustav__> OerHeks: How do you know that?
[03:19] <OerHeks> gustav__, if it was legal, ubuntu will ship it, or make a wiki,  wouldn't they?
[03:19] <gustav__> OerHeks: Obviously.
[03:20] <wood_quinn> Does anyone here know what directory Transmission uses as a "Trashbin?"
[03:22] <davidokner> Anyone know how to fix Surround Sound? It is coming out of the wrong speakers.
[03:22] <davidokner> It normally does that when it outputs as DD instead of pcm.
[03:22] <davidokner> My front left signal comes out my rear left speaker.
[03:27] <Gaddel> hi, i have an elantech touchpad that is not recognized at all by xubuntu. it just says "ps/2 generic mouse". i've tried a bunch of fixes to no avail. running the latest kernel
[03:27] <userZ> join #debian
[03:27] <Gaddel> me?
[03:30] <leftyfb> can someone please help me get my <super> key back from Unity? I NEED it for a terminal hotkey like I have it on other computers. I've tried so many different things, nothing is working.
[03:31] <leftyfb> Also, rinfon is an onjoin spammer
[03:31] <meaganicole> hello
[03:31] <meaganicole> hello
[03:31] <meaganicole> anyone there
[03:32] <Gaddel> no
[03:32] <meaganicole> lol and very funny
[03:32] <meaganicole> i want to ask a question
[03:32] <gustav__> A DVD seems to have lodged it self in the drive right now. I can't do eject /dev/xyz on it and two vlc processes has gone zombie. Should I just reboot?
[03:32] <meaganicole> where can i download a full version of ubuntu?
[03:32] <escott> gustav__, paperclip?
[03:32] <meaganicole> i have 10.10 version, the ubuntu keeps asking me to update and it can't update
[03:32] <xangua> meaganicole: from ubuntu.com
[03:33] <leftyfb> meaganicole: ubuntu.com
[03:33] <meaganicole> i tried
[03:33] <escott> !eol | meaganicole
[03:33] <meaganicole> i tried doing a copy of a cd but won't work
[03:33] <meaganicole> i have 4 cds of ubuntu that been downloaded from the official site but no use
[03:33] <meaganicole> can't seem to boot/install
[03:33] <leftyfb> meaganicole: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Burning_the_ISO_on_to_a_DVD
[03:33] <gustav__> escott: You think that will work? There is a hole.
[03:33] <escott> meaganicole, have you checked the md5sum? did you burn them correctly (as iso not data)
[03:34] <meaganicole> yes
[03:34] <davidokner> When I run software center it often says it has to repair itself.
[03:34] <escott> gustav__, i dont know what you mean by lodged, but that is the manual eject hole
[03:34] <meaganicole> I also tried using ubuntu to burn the cd but still won't work
[03:34] <ScottJensen> do-release-upgrade -d
[03:35] <davidokner> meaganicole: Which ISO did you download?
[03:35] <gustav__> escott: I think the OS is holding it.
[03:35] <meaganicole> still won't work, i don't know if computer won't accept it or something else going off
[03:35] <hilo> hello friends
[03:35] <davidokner> hilo: I got it working.
[03:35] <meaganicole> the ubuntu lte I think
[03:35] <escott> gustav__, ok. well manual should get around that... the OS won't like it, but if things are going zombie
[03:35] <gustav__> So, I'll just reboot then. Ok bye.
[03:35] <hilo> davidokner, Wonderful. Just curious if it isn't too much trouble for you to PM me the solution you used?
[03:36] <escott> meaganicole, beyond "it doesn't work" you havent told us much
[03:37] <bazhang> !work | meaganicole
[03:37] <meaganicole> still can't get the cd to work even though i downloaded
[03:37] <ScottJensen> meaganicole: open terminal, sudo -i, then do-release-upgrade
[03:38] <gustav__> I have to remember to umount discs before popping them out. LOL
[03:38] <meaganicole> the file not found or command not found
[03:38] <ScottJensen> eject cmd is your friend
[03:38] <gustav__> Yeah.
[03:39] <leftyfb> can someone please help me get my <super> key back from Unity? I NEED it for a terminal hotkey like I have it on other computers. I've tried so many different things, nothing is working.
[03:39] <davidokner> Why does 12.04 have no restart option?
[03:39] <hilo> davidokner, it does
[03:40] <hilo> davidokner, if you click shutdown it is on the dialog
[03:40] <meaganicole> is it possible to make a copy of ubuntu for me?
[03:40] <ScottJensen> meaganicole: http://www.ubun2.com/question/1135/how_upgrade_ubuntu_1110_command_line
[03:40] <hilo> davidokner, they moved it a bit is all
[03:40] <davidokner> hilo: Oh, in the dialog to the left. I didn't see it.
[03:40] <hilo> davidokner, got me the first time too
[03:40] <ScottJensen> meaganicole: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[03:40] <davidokner> hilo: 12.10 moved it to its own option I think.
[03:41] <SpacePoet> from bash how do i get information about a package?
[03:41] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | meaganicole for 10.10
[03:41] <escott> SpacePoet, dpkg or apt
[03:41] <SpacePoet> how to with apt
[03:41] <leftyfb> SpacePoet: sudo apt-cache show <package>
[03:42] <SpacePoet> thx
[03:42] <cnz> question
[03:42] <cnz> im running sudo services mythtv-backend start
[03:42] <cnz> it says it starts and gives a pid
[03:42] <meaganicole> it said that i hve the newest version
[03:42] <cnz> yet it doesn't actually start the service
[03:43] <cnz> im running 12.04
[03:43] <logitech> check the log
[03:43] <cnz> any ideas
[03:43] <logitech> -> /var/log
[03:43] <cnz> which log
[03:43] <logitech> mythtv
[03:43] <sargennto> Have posted this on the forums with no response. Maybe you all can help. Ever since I installed the package 'xubuntu-desktop' my volume slider graphic is now missing in unity... How can I fix this and also is it safe to just remove the 'xubuntu-desktop' package?
[03:43] <hilo> davidokner, To be honest, I rarely use intermediate releases. I stick with the LTS release unless something specific in the new version makes it worth my while. I don't like having to worry about the minute changes they make that have sweeping effects on my configurations. :) Most of my equipment is still running 10.04, and a few 12.04.
[03:43] <cnz> there isnt one
[03:43] <logitech> open terminal and see what logs u have
[03:44] <logitech> ls /var/log
[03:44] <davidokner> hilo: I wanted the AMD driver and it didn't work with 12.10
[03:44] <SpacePoet> how do i unmount a cd?
[03:44] <cnz> logitech, /var/log/mythtv is empty
[03:44] <SpacePoet> unmount /media/cd?
[03:44] <logitech> eject /dev/cdrom
[03:44] <ScottJensen> eject /dev/sr0
[03:44] <SpacePoet> i want to unmount not eject
[03:44] <SpacePoet> sorry
[03:45] <meaganicole> i have tried updating but says 1 file not found
[03:45] <logitech> df -h
[03:45] <logitech> umount /dev/cd-rom
[03:45] <hilo> davidokner, that is a great reason ;) The systems I did move to 12.04 were motivated by a similar driver situation
[03:45] <logitech> replace cd-rom with the device pointer
[03:45] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  <----- meaganicole
[03:45] <bazhang> meaganicole, read that link
[03:46] <meaganicole> ok but my computer is really slow at the moment, won't respond at times
[03:46] <bazhang> meaganicole, thats the link you need. read it
[03:46] <meaganicole> ok I'm reading
[03:46] <logitech> fglrx vs xorg-ari driver
[03:46] <jubei> guys i am trying to remove a package but it says the following packages have unmet dependencies and recomments that I do apt-get -f install to correct them
[03:46] <jubei> the thing is that the problematic packages come from an additional ppa
[03:47] <jubei> I've removed that ppa from etc/apt/sources.list , i've done apt-get update
[03:47] <jubei> but still the problem persists
[03:47] <C4zz1dy> have u done apt-get update?
[03:47] <C4zz1dy> o sry
[03:47] <C4zz1dy> lol.
[03:47] <C4zz1dy> in that case your problem is out of my league already :\
[03:51] <escott> !info ppa-purge | jubei
[03:52] <jubei> escott: the problem is that If I try to install ppa-purge I still get the broken/unmet dependencies thingie :)
[03:52] <rinfon> guys, i want to change the desktop background picture,but when i reboot the computer,the picture restore default,why?
[03:53] <WHAT_UP> is it easy to switch ubuntu into effectively xubuntu?
[03:54] <logitech> i hate the Unity desktop
[03:54] <bazhang> !ot | logitech
[03:54] <bazhang> WHAT_UP, yes
[03:54] <rinfon> me too
[03:54] <skp1> unity is awesome.
[03:54] <bazhang> complaints to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:54] <kvothetech> WHAT_UP: install xfce
[03:55] <bazhang> WHAT_UP, the package xubuntu-desktop then
[03:55] <bazhang> !purexfce| WHAT_UP
[03:56] <skp1> how do i remove the amazon advertisments in ubuntu 12.10?
[03:56] <bazhang> !adlens | skp1
[03:56] <WHAT_UP> bazhang: say i need to upgrade from 11.04, and i want to have xfce at the end. should i do that before or after the upgrade?
[03:57] <bazhang> WHAT_UP, I'd migrate home to a new partition, then install 12.10 fresh (xubuntu)
[03:57] <logitech> by default my home is on it's own partition
[03:57] <bazhang> logitech, why are you telling us this?
[03:58] <dr_willis> you are allready ahead of the game then. ;)
[03:58] <dr_willis> clean install of xubuntu 12.10 and you are all set
[03:59] <WHAT_UP> bazhang: alright. sounds like a plan (esp. since i already have an xubuntu 12.10 dvd) thanks!
[04:01] <C4zz1dy> how could you hate the Unity desktop...D:
[04:01] <dr_willis> unity works well for me.
[04:01] <dr_willis> i set my windows7 panels vertical even. ;)
[04:02] <WHAT_UP> the big mistake in unity, imo, is putting everything on the left
[04:02] <WHAT_UP> by default
[04:02] <WHAT_UP> (let alone that it was effectively forced on people, which people don't like)
[04:03] <dr_willis> forcing changes on people.. how Microsoftish of them. ;)
[04:03] <WHAT_UP> the scrollbar is already on the right side of the screen, so the mouse is on that side the majority of the time anyway. no reason to have to move it all the way to the left to interact with a sidebar whose icons change size on you
[04:04] <dr_willis> they are being forward thinking for when the ubuntu tablets arive.... when ever that happens
[04:04] <kingbeast> is there an app I can use to stream my desktop other than vlc?
[04:04] <dr_willis> actually i rarely use the actual scrollbars.
[04:05] <WHAT_UP> in the same sense that it's forward thinking to get rid of 1920x1200 displays in favor of hd-compatible 1920x1080
[04:05] <dr_willis> kingbeast:  i belive there is. but i cant recall the names. other then 'webcamstudio' which may be outdated
[04:07] <dr_willis> kingbeast:  askubuntu.com may have some suggestions
[04:08] <kingbeast> thanks dr_willis
[04:20] <logitech> how do i tell which video driver X11 is using?
[04:20] <logitech> i seen under settings VESA:SUMO
[04:20] <escott> logitech, you can read the /var/log/Xorg.0.log but its rather verbose
[04:20] <logitech> is it not using fglrx?
[04:20] <escott> logitech, i like to glxing | grep -i renderer or grep -i vendor
[04:21] <davidokner> Can Ubuntu add an Oracle Java installer?
[04:21] <logitech> dont have glxing
[04:22] <Ibidem> glxinfo
[04:22] <escott> logitech, glxinfo sorry
[04:22] <Chronon> Is anyone else having problems with SysRq on 12.10?  After upgrading SysRq combinations don't work.
[04:22] <Ibidem> and grep renderer is most informative
[04:23] <trism> Chronon: many sysrq combinations are disabled by default in 12.10
[04:23] <logitech> OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 6620G
[04:23] <trism> Chronon: see /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf for details and instructions to enable them again
[04:23] <Chronon> Thanks, trism!
[04:24] <logitech> so i guess it is using the fglrx driver
[04:27] <rushboy> hello this is a newbie question : if i want to view the source code of any application i just unpacked using 'sudo apt-get install'  , is it possible to view the source code through github only or is there another way ?
[04:28] <Ibidem> trying to get audio recording working with my laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad X100e; standard webcam, which is working except for sound, and HD ATI SB/Conexant pebble soundcard)
[04:29] <Ibidem> rushboy: not very clear what you mean, but the source you just downloaded is in a local folder
[04:29] <Ibidem> oh sorry, misread what you wrote
[04:30] <escott> rushboy, enable deb-src and install those pacakges
[04:30] <Ibidem> use "apt-get source <package>"
[04:30] <cnz> how do you format a disk with ext4 from command line?
[04:30] <cnz> I used fdisk to partition the drive
[04:31] <escott> cnz, mkfs.ext4
[04:31] <cnz> escott so mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda?
[04:31] <escott> cnz, no the partition number
[04:31] <rushboy> okay , thanks escott and Ibidem :)
[04:32] <cnz> right
[04:32] <cnz> mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1 etc etc correct?
[04:32] <Ibidem> yes
[04:32] <escott> cnz, yes
[04:32] <cnz> thanks :)
[04:34] <yuntsewu> Anyone remember how to change the touchpad sensitivity with xinput?
[04:34] <cnz> escott is it normal for mkfs.ext4 to take up 28gigs of disk space?
[04:34] <Hwkiller> yes
[04:35] <escott> cnz, depends on how big the disk is
[04:35] <dr_willis> 5% is reserved by default
[04:35] <HorizonXP> can anyone suggest an IRC channel for discussion about installing Ubuntu on a Chromebook?
[04:35] <dr_willis> thats changeable via the tune2fsa command
[04:35] <dr_willis> thats changeable via the tune2fs command
[04:36] <cnz> dr_willis can I change it to 5%
[04:36] <cnz> I mean to 0%
[04:36] <dfcnvt> Did anybody tried 'stress' command?
[04:36] <Sumesh> I need to run a couple of xmodmap commands at startup to remap a key, what's the right way to do it?
[04:36] <dfcnvt> I've tried it out but doesn't seems to create a final log or documentation.
[04:37] <deven_> how to limit workspace to 1
[04:37] <escott> cnz, as long as it is between 0 and 100% thats allowed
[04:38] <Ibidem> Sumesh: put them in .Xmodmap, IIRC
[04:38] <cnz> escott, is this correct tune2fs -c 0
[04:39] <escott> cnz, i dont know. check the man page
[04:39] <rushboy> escott, after cloning a particular repository via git if I edit the code will I be able to see the changes in the concerned application as well ?
[04:39] <escott> rushboy, if you recompile and install your version
[04:42] <rushboy> escott, so is this correct : first a clone a repo , then edit a chunk of code and commit it and maybe installing the version  i committed will make my changes visible ? (this might be very vague to ask but pardon me I am new to open source softwares )
[04:43] <escott> rushboy, yes, but you should be careful installing your own versions you dont want to overwrite the existing version or in some way break other programs
[04:43] <cnz> dr_willis you know how to change it with tune2fs I read the man pages but still lost
[04:44] <dr_willis> cnz:  set the % to be zero i recall
[04:44] <dr_willis> the change may not take effect untill a reboot however
[04:44] <rushboy> escott, thanks :)
[04:45] <escott> !packaging | rushboy
[04:45] <escott> rushboy, read those docs to get a sense for how it works. also look at checkinstall
[04:46] <cnz> yeah -m 0
[04:46] <cnz> does it need to be reformatted after that
[04:46] <escott> cnz, no. but it should be fscked
[04:46] <cnz> k
[04:49] <Tex_Nick> HorizonXP : you can install Ubuntu on a chromebook the same as you would on any other x86 platform ... www.ubuntu.com @ the top of the page choose "Download" then look @ 12.04 installation instructions ... for specific questions, you could ask in this channel
[04:49] <cnz> hhmm
[04:49] <cnz> I cant' umount it after running tune2fs
[04:50] <escott> cnz, you should have umounted before running tune2fs
[04:50] <dr_willis> i seem to recall always doing it on a unmounteted fs.
[04:50] <cnz> aahh
[04:50] <cnz> well poop LOL
[04:50] <dr_willis> may be a good idea to reboot. ;)
[04:50] <dr_willis> those setings may not take effect untill after a reboot anyway
[04:51] <cnz> yep LOL
[04:53] <cnz> great :(
[04:53] <cnz> system is fucked :(
[04:53] <Ibidem> HorizonXP: Tex_Nick is right unless it's a Samsung chromebook, which is arm
[04:54] <Ibidem> cnz: unbootable? or just that partition unmountable?
[04:55] <Tex_Nick> Ibidem : thanks for the correction ;)
[04:56] <cnz> Ibidem, system wont boot, get the grub menu select to boot and that's it
[04:58] <cnz> Ibidem, looks like the system is unbootable
[04:58] <cnz> which I don't see why the os drive would even be effected
[04:59] <ariane5> does ubuntu play youtube videos?
[05:00] <Ibidem> cnz: what happens if you select recovery/remove "quiet" ?
[05:00] <almoxarife> ariane5: yes
[05:00] <Ibidem> ariane5: install flashplugin-installer or such
[05:01] <Ibidem> otherwise, it's only HTML5, which works for most videos
[05:01] <ariane5> if i install flash ubuntu will work not good i think
[05:02] <ariane5> the same is with java
[05:02] <cnz> this just reminds me on why I quit using ubuntu
[05:03] <Patero-ng> when was gnome stopped being used
[05:03] <ariane5> do i right ?
[05:04] <cnz> Ibidem ok that booted to a menu
[05:04] <almoxarife> cnz: you quit because you cant install ubuntu on a toaster?
[05:04] <cnz> lol almoxarife
[05:05] <escott> almoxarife, those BSG toasters will kill you before you get close enough to insert the install media. its a bad idea
[05:06] <almoxarife> escott: the kerosene powered ones are more forgiving
[05:07] <HorizonXP> Tex_Nick, Ibidem: No, I was referring to the ARM Chromebook
[05:08] <cnz> Ibidem, looks like something is wrong with /dev/sda
[05:09] <dr_willis> cnz:  you didend use that tunefs command on sda? but on sda1 or sda?
[05:09] <cnz> sda1
[05:10] <dr_willis> ok. ;)
[05:10] <cnz> sorry should've been more specific
[05:10] <dr_willis> ive never had tune2fs hurt a fs.
[05:10] <cnz> well it's not mounting
[05:10] <cnz> so its hanging up
[05:11] <dr_willis> ive also never used tune2fs on a mounted fs. ;)
[05:11] <dr_willis> can a live cd mount the fs?
[05:11] <davidokner> I can't believe I figured out how to install java by following the directions.
[05:12] <davidokner> Couldn't Ubuntu have an Oracle Java installer in the app store?
[05:12] <dr_willis> 'always read and follow label directions'
[05:12] <dr_willis> davidokner:  no.. oracle wont let them
[05:12] <davidokner> dr_willis: Could Ubuntu Create some kind of automation script?
[05:12] <dr_willis> there used to be one.. then Oravle changed the licenseing terms
[05:13] <davidokner> Like a script that downloads it and runs the commands?
[05:13] <dr_willis> the gpl java works for me.
[05:13] <cnz> dr_willis I just mounted it manually
[05:13] <dr_willis> davidokner:  the webupd8 ppa has a script
[05:13] <cnz> booted the system in recovery mode
[05:13] <cnz> well from the recovery mode kernel
[05:13] <suttiwit> whoa
[05:13] <davidokner> My IDE requires Oracle Java.
[05:13] <suttiwit> wait a sec
[05:13] <davidokner> RubyMine requires Oracle java they said.
[05:13] <Ibidem> HorizonXP: looks like you need chrbuntu
[05:13] <dr_willis> never heard of it.
[05:14] <Tex_Nick> HorizonXP : if you google "install ubuntu on arm chromebook" you'll find a lot of info ... sorry i can't help yoy specifically on arm ... there are people here who can though ... maybe not at the moment ... keep trying though
[05:14] <davidokner> Not having java could be a problem for casual user adoption of Ubuntu.
[05:14] <dr_willis> for the casual user the gpl java works in most cases
[05:14] <davidokner> dr_willis: Oh
[05:14] <dr_willis> blame oracle for their silly licensing.
[05:14] <suttiwit> WHY? You know, if one ubuntu server version is EOL, the server ppl gonna have to upgrade, right? but for servers, they can't reboot, turn off or else the whole thing will shutdown.
[05:15] <davidokner> dr_willis: I'm not even sure if most people use java anymore today on desktops. They use flash a lot though.
[05:15] <davidokner> Ubuntu seems to be like a harder to use version of OS X
[05:15] <suttiwit> Is there a way to upgrade without rebooting.
[05:15] <Abhijit> hi. i downloaded ubuntu font from http://font.ubuntu.com/ by clicking download for free. and i extracted the zip dolder into .fonts in /home directory. but in abiword and libreoffice writer i can only see 4 veriations i.e. ubuntu, mono, condesned and light. i cant see greek, latin, cyrillic and other variations. i am using opensuse 12.2
[05:15] <Ibidem> Oracle says that the GPL java is the reference version
[05:15] <nubfestngalore> suttiwit, ksplice
[05:16] <dr_willis> so anything that  'needs' oracle java is not following the standard? ;)
[05:16] <Hwkiller> is openjdk GPL?
[05:16] <nubfestngalore> suttiwit, pay attention for possible problems via own google researches before using it, just in case
[05:17] <Ibidem> dr_willis, Hwkiller: yes to both
[05:17] <kristian-aalborg> cheers
[05:17] <kristian-aalborg> running Lubuntu
[05:18] <davidokner> Fubuntu?
[05:18] <kristian-aalborg> www.lubuntu.net
[05:18] <kristian-aalborg> LXDE on top
[05:18] <cnz> woot
[05:18] <cnz> sysem is hosed
[05:19]  * dr_willis gives cnz a gold star.  for record time in hoseing a system
[05:19] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:19] <cnz> I would really like to know why tune2fs screwed up the whole system
[05:19] <kristian-aalborg> tar: /home/kristian/.dropbox/command_socket: socket ignored
 tar: /home/kristian/.dropbox/iface_socket: socket ignored
[05:19] <dr_willis> ive never had it mess up a system
[05:19] <cnz> yeah it won't boot
[05:19] <kristian-aalborg> I got this message when doing something unrelated
[05:19] <cnz> just goes to black screen and hangs there
[05:20] <dr_willis> i do think ive used it on mounted / befor also.
[05:20] <HorizonXP> Tex_Nick: yeah, i've been looking through those. I haven't got my Chromebook yet, just researching right now. Thanks tho
[05:20] <cnz> but the recovery krenel will boot to a menu
[05:20] <cnz> I really wished debian liked ati
[05:20] <cnz> I would go back to debian
[05:21] <dr_willis> no one likes ati. ;) its just tolerated
[05:21] <cnz> lol
[05:21] <cnz> they have seriously gone way down kill
[05:21] <Tex_Nick> HorizonXP : hey no problem ... and it is being done by many people ... looks like ... good luck :)
[05:22] <dr_willis> from what i read amd/ati needs to do some hard work to turn things around..
[05:22] <cnz> dr_willis, yeah they do
[05:22] <dr_willis> i havent bought either in years.
[05:23] <cnz> well I bought the 6870 beginning of the year
[05:23] <cnz> big mistake
[05:23] <cnz> should've went iwth the 560ti
[05:23] <dr_willis> now if intel would just get in gear and make some kicking 3d cards....
[05:23] <cnz> lol
[05:23] <phunyguy_t430s> dr_willis, agreed.
[05:23] <cnz> nvidia needs to make some cards with more outputs
[05:24] <dr_willis> i saw some 'usb' external monitors that are supposed to work with 12.10
[05:24] <cnz> usb monitors huh
[05:24] <cnz> that's interesting
[05:24] <cnz> wow system booted
[05:24] <dr_willis> yep. about $90 for a 15 inch one
[05:25] <cnz> how can I find out wtf was going on and why it took like 20minutes to boot
[05:25] <escott> cnz, dmesg
[05:25] <dr_willis> cnz:  perhaps it was fscking?
[05:25] <cnz> dr_willis maybe
[05:26] <cnz> but now I don't even have network support
[05:26] <RickZilla> !lang dr_willis
[05:26] <cnz> friggin awesome
[05:26] <RickZilla> !language dr_willis
[05:26] <RickZilla> dang, I tried
[05:26] <dr_willis> but ive never had a system take that long to fsck.  how big was the fs?
[05:26] <dr_willis> the bot has been sickly today
[05:27] <phunyguy_t430s> correct syntax would help
[05:27] <escott> ubottu heal thyself
[05:27] <RickZilla> Yeah, I can see that
[05:27] <RickZilla> I just didn't think works like fsck were allowed in here
[05:27] <phunyguy_t430s> !language | dr_willis
[05:28] <phunyguy_t430s> see?
[05:28] <canaima_> hola
[05:28] <RickZilla> Got it...thanks
[05:28] <canaima_> quien
[05:28] <escott> !es | canaima_
[05:28] <RickZilla> canaima_ #ubuntu-es
[05:28] <mynameisthom> hello, I'm starting to learn bash script. I'd like to ask, what is $? means in bash script?
[05:29] <Hwkiller> the error code of the last run command
[05:29] <phunyguy_t430s> mynameisthom, IIR error code
[05:29] <phunyguy_t430s> IIRC*
[05:29] <canaima_> no
[05:29] <canaima_> mi pc no quieres abrir nada de inter
[05:30] <phunyguy_t430s> ok #2.
[05:30] <phunyguy_t430s> !es | canaima_
[05:30] <RickZilla> canaima_ #ubuntu-es, mi espanol no es muy bueno, lo siento
[05:31] <RickZilla> Where would be a recommended resource for learning how to run a server with ubuntu?
[05:31] <cnz> ok redid the partitioning of the sda hopefully that fixes something but I doubt it
[05:32] <phunyguy_t430s> !ubuntu-server | RickZilla
[05:32] <mynameisthom> phunyguy_t430s: thank you
[05:32] <phunyguy_t430s> for?
[05:33] <cnz> dr_willis, what's the chancs of the hard drive being bad?
[05:33] <phunyguy_t430s> oh, right.
[05:33] <phunyguy_t430s> I'm tired
[05:34] <kristian-aalborg> this is too weird... I can't ls in my home dir
[05:35] <phunyguy_t430s> kristian-aalborg, who ownes it?
[05:35] <phunyguy_t430s> owns*
[05:35] <kristian-aalborg> phunyguy_t430s, I do?
[05:36] <phunyguy_t430s> kristian-aalborg, either that is true, or your HDD is bad.
[05:36] <Tex_Nick> cnz : years of pc troubleshooting lead me to beleive that what Linus Torvalds said about hard drives ( They are the devil ) is true :)
[05:36] <phunyguy_t430s> isn't*
[05:37] <dr_willis> cnz i find hard drives to be the most likely to fail part of any pc these days
[05:37] <cnz> well even if it is f'ed I will get a replacement it's not even a year old
[05:37] <cnz> has a 3year warranty
[05:38] <phunyguy_t430s> cnz, you will need an error code for that.
[05:38] <cnz> dr_willis this is even odd, even the live cd is taking for ever to boot
[05:38] <dr_willis> if you can convince them its bad. ;)
[05:38]  * Logitech is wondering why video playback is soo choppy
[05:38]  * phunyguy_t430s glares at cnz's motherboard.
[05:38] <cnz> lol it's not the motherboard
[05:39] <Abhijit> hi. i downloaded ubuntu font from http://font.ubuntu.com/ by clicking download for free. and i extracted the zip dolder into .fonts in /home directory. but in abiword and libreoffice writer i can only see 4 veriations i.e. ubuntu, mono, condesned and light. i cant see greek, latin, cyrillic and other variations. i am using opensuse 12.2
[05:39] <phunyguy_t430s> mhm.
[05:39] <cnz> I blame ubuntus install boot images just to take 3days to boot to install screen
[05:39] <phunyguy_t430s> not sure opensuse is supported here
[05:40] <phunyguy_t430s> Abhijit, #opensuse ?
[05:40] <TheLordOfTime> cnz, i think the issue's your system, not the live CD.  it loads in about 3 minutes here.
[05:40] <TheLordOfTime> and on a lot of my clients' systems too.
[05:40] <cnz> lol I doubt it's mysystem
[05:40] <kristian-aalborg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1250915
[05:40] <cnz> i5 ivy bridge 16gigs of ram
[05:40] <RickZilla> cnz: Yeah, if ubuntu takes three days to boot on your machine, and three minutes on everybody else's, the problem probably isn't the boot cd.
[05:40] <phunyguy_t430s> cnz : famous last words
[05:41] <phunyguy_t430s> cnz, I hate the same type of system
[05:41] <cnz> RickZilla LOL I was exaderading (how ever that word is spelled)
[05:41] <almoxarife> cnz: you proved that either you cant install something or your toaster is not ready for a ubuntu install
[05:41] <phunyguy_t430s> mine starts fast on the livecd
[05:41] <cnz> almoxarife lol
[05:42] <cnz> lol
[05:42] <phunyguy_t430s> owned.
[05:42] <cnz> phunyguy_t430s, probably my pos lg blu-ray burner
[05:42] <phunyguy_t430s> cnz, maybe sol
[05:42] <phunyguy_t430s> so*
[05:42] <phunyguy_t430s> I have to go to sleep.
[05:42] <phunyguy_t430s> g/n
[05:43] <cheesecakes> can i add another distro to my current setup which includes:ubuntu + win xp
[05:44] <Tex_Nick> cnz : FYI ... Western Digital offers a free Drive diagnostic tool, it used to be called "wddiag" i think ... Segate also has one , not sure what it's called though
[05:44] <cheesecakes> the main thing i am confused about is grub2 configuration
[05:44] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: if you can install it it can be included
[05:45] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: no grub yet?
[05:45] <cheesecakes> i have grun2 installed
[05:45] <cheesecakes> *grub
[05:46] <cheesecakes> should i install another grub2 while installing say arch
[05:46] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: if grub is already there then grub is a non-issue, generally
[05:46] <cheesecakes> or will grub auto detect?
[05:46] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: grub should auto detect
[05:46] <cheesecakes> so i skip the part about installing grub
[05:47] <cheesecakes> *bootloader
[05:47] <thunder1212> i use ubuntu 12.04.1
[05:47] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: i would, yes
[05:47] <thunder1212> i use it on my laptop and that is the only os i installed
[05:48] <cheesecakes> so just create a partition and install the os and i'll have a menu entry?
[05:48] <cheesecakes> in grub
[05:48] <thunder1212> recently i tried debian 6 and installed it alongside ubuntu
[05:48] <almoxarife> cheesecakes: pretty much
[05:48] <cheesecakes> ok cool
[05:48] <thunder1212> then i decided to rremove debian.. so i logged in to ubuntu and deleted the partiition containing debian
[05:49] <cheesecakes> no need for a seperate boot partition too
[05:49] <almoxarife> thunder1212: can you place all that info on one line?
[05:49] <phunyguy_t430s> !enter | thunder1212
[05:50] <thunder1212> no when i boot i get error grub rescue>
[05:50] <thunder1212> : ( what to do now
[05:50] <thunder1212> almoxarife: ok sorry..
[05:51] <phunyguy_t430s> !guidelines | thunder1212
[05:51] <dr_willis> determine what os you want to manage grub.  use a live cd to repair grub from that os
[05:52] <thunder1212> dr_willis: right now i am chatting from ubuntu 12.04.1 live disk
[05:52] <dr_willis> the 'boot-repair' tool from a ubuntu live cd should fix it all up
[05:52] <thunder1212> dr_willis: where is the tool
[05:52] <dr_willis> you will need to install boot-repair however
[05:52] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[05:53] <dr_willis> the boot-repair wiki page has the exact commands to use to install it
[05:53]  * dr_willis wishes they would include it by default...
[05:54] <Lemanja> todo en ingles¿
[05:56] <aeon-ltd> !es
[05:57] <Karlo_> Hi.  I just did apt-get install smbfs; then [as root] LOGNAME=karlo USER=karlo smbmount //10.10.10.4/SHAREDIR /mnt/foop -o 'username=karlo,uid=karlo'; this correctly made /mnt/foop point to SHAREDIR on the Windows machine on the LAN.  However, the directory and the files in it are all owned by root instead of me.  Did I skip a step?
[05:58] <Abhijit> phunyguy_t430s, i am talking about "ubuntu" fonts btw. fyi. in case you have missed it.
[06:00] <droidmaxxx> guys how can I login as root in ubuntu??
[06:00] <thunder1212> dr_willis: ok.. i did the recomended repair no i'll reboot
[06:00] <Abhijit> droidmaxxx, you can not from gui. from terminal do sudo su
[06:00] <cnz> dr_willis the only good thing asbout ati is their output display ability
[06:00] <dr_willis> droidmaxxx:  use sudo as needed is the proper way
[06:00] <cnz> my card will support up to 6 monitors
[06:00] <dr_willis> dont do 'sudo su' ;)
[06:00] <Abhijit> su
[06:00] <dr_willis> sudo -s
[06:01] <Abhijit> i see
[06:01] <thunder1212> dr_willis: or should i use advanced settings
[06:01] <dr_willis> cnz:  you must have a big desk
[06:01] <droidmaxxx> Abhijit: hmm... dr_willis I'm trying to edit tor config file in here /etc/default/tor but I cant
[06:01] <dr_willis> thunder1212:  the normal 'fix stuff' settings seem to work for me
[06:01] <cnz> nope
[06:01] <Abhijit> droidmaxxx, sudo nano /etc/decault/tor
[06:01] <dr_willis> droidmaxxx:  yes you can....
[06:01] <cnz> going to mount 4 small tv/monitors 2 on each side of my 60" tv
[06:02] <cnz> so will have a total of 5
[06:02] <droidmaxxx> Abhijit: what's nano do??
[06:02] <dr_willis> cnz:  and get a  nice tan
[06:02] <cnz> lol why would I get a nice tan
[06:02] <dr_willis> !info nano
[06:02] <cnz> well it is still pretty hot here lol
[06:02] <cnz> it's been in the 80s :(
[06:02] <dr_willis> nano = a text editor
[06:03] <cnz> nano = pico renamed
[06:03] <droidmaxxx> okays :)
[06:03] <cnz> which will never be as bad ass as vim
[06:03] <_Tristan> Using 12.04. Got drunk last night and tried to make optimus work. How can I reset my graphics driver stuff back to the defaults without reinstalling my OS?
[06:03] <dr_willis> nano = annoying for  'complete' beginners. ;)
[06:03] <Abhijit> droidmaxxx, a command line text editor
[06:04] <droidmaxxx> Abhijit: opened it... shows nothing total blank... I can see that editor GUI in terminal..
[06:04] <dr_willis> you spelt the path/file wrong..
[06:04] <dr_willis> or it is empty ;)
[06:05] <droidmaxxx> Abhijit: dr_willis can I edit it using normal GUI editor like leafpad ??
[06:05] <dr_willis> !gksudo
[06:05] <Abhijit> !tor | time to do some reading droidmaxxx
[06:05] <dr_willis> with gksudo  yes...
[06:06] <dr_willis> sudo for cli apps.. gksudo for gui apps
[06:06] <droidmaxxx> Abhijit: I know abt tor :P I'm not familiar with Ubuntu... this sudo thingy and command can you suggest some online fast guide to all this??
[06:07] <Abhijit> droidmaxxx, you dont know what is path to edit and whats the file to edit. learn tor first. not the ubuntu
[06:07] <droidmaxxx> :(
[06:07] <dr_willis> ;(?
[06:07] <afeagle> when installing Ubuntu Server, does /boot have to be in a separate partition?
[06:08] <dr_willis> afeagle:  i dont think its required. but itd common in many setups
[06:08] <cnz> FING HELL
[06:08] <afeagle> then in that case, should the /boot partition come before root or after?
[06:08] <afeagle> or does it matter?
[06:09] <dr_willis> old skool ways put /boot/ as the first partiton on the hd.
[06:09] <cnz> dr_willis, tune2fs won't take now
[06:09] <cnz> I unmounted the drive
[06:09] <cnz> ran tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda1
[06:09] <Karlo_> droidmaxxx: the sudo thingy is simply: "sudo COMMAND" means "do COMMAND as super user (root)".
[06:09] <cnz> fsck /dev/sda1 then formatted it
[06:09] <dr_willis> lilo limts had /boot/ being totally belo the 1024 cylinder  boundry
[06:09] <cnz> and remounted and it's still taking up 5%
[06:10] <dr_willis> cnz:  you tune2fs it after formating
[06:10] <cnz> k
[06:10] <cnz> then fsck it
[06:10] <droidmaxxx> Karlo_: I know what sudo does :\ I had used it to apt-get  etc ect
[06:10] <dr_willis> and im not sure why you fscked bedor formating
[06:10] <afeagle> I have used ubuntu desktop pretty heavily the last 5 years, but decided to venture into server use, but am having booting trouble
[06:10] <voxadam> I'm running 12.10 server on VMWare and for some reason am unable to find the openssh-client and openssh-server packages that the offical documentation tells me should be available.
[06:11] <dr_willis> you can setup a desktop to do servedr tasks
[06:11] <afeagle> I have the boot first then root right behind the windows load, but when I try to install grub it keeps failing
[06:11] <droidmaxxx> Abhijit: dr_willis I got my mistake :P that nano you gave was sudo nano /etc/decault/tor but its "sudo nano /etc/default/tor" :) working
[06:11] <cnz> dr_willis, well what is the correct order to do it
[06:11] <cnz> I have tried it both ways and it wont' resize it
[06:12] <dr_willis> !tab | droidmaxxx
[06:12] <cnz> it's still doing 5%
[06:12] <Abhijit> god
[06:12] <afeagle> windows by itself starts just fine, but once I drop Ubuntu Server in, I get the loathsome no disc error!
[06:12] <dr_willis> cnz:  fdisk, format, tune2fs. reboot
[06:12] <droidmaxxx> ubottu: I know that :P
[06:12]  * droidmaxxx facepalm
[06:12] <cnz> dr_willis, ok will try it again
[06:13] <afeagle> so with win taking partition 1, boot taking partition 2 and root taking partition 3, which one should I install the grub into during install?
[06:13] <dr_willis> afeagle:  grub goes on the hd. not a partition. ie: sda   NOT sda
[06:14] <dr_willis> afeagle:  grub goes on the hd. not a partition. ie: sda   NOT sda1
[06:14] <dr_willis> and you really dont need a /boot/ partition
[06:14] <afeagle> I thought I read that on one of the forums, but doesnt that put it into the MBR by specifying only the drive?
[06:14] <dr_willis> grub goes in the mbr... yes
[06:14] <droidmaxxx> Abhijit: can you tell me what to press to use command ^O or ^R ?? in nano ??
[06:14] <cnz> LOL
[06:15] <Abhijit> droidmaxxx, CTRl
[06:15] <DrGrov> I gotta wonder, how does login screen wallpapers get changed in 12.04? I does not stick when I change it.
[06:15] <dr_willis> ^ = press the control ket
[06:15] <dr_willis> key
[06:15] <Abhijit> the control button
[06:15] <cnz> I love grub boot errors
[06:15] <afeagle> for some reason I thought that I read somewhere that putting it into the MBR on a multi boot system was a bad thing?
[06:15] <dr_willis> #1 resson i hate nano as a reccomendation to beginners
[06:15]  * Abhijit blesses cnz with loads of grub errors for his lifetime.
[06:15] <dr_willis> afeagle:  ive always put it in the mbr.. for years
[06:15] <cnz> lol Abhijit
[06:16] <droidmaxxx> Abhijit: is write out same as save??
[06:16] <dr_willis> grub on the mbr = common practiced
[06:16] <afeagle> ok, thanks for the assistance!
[06:16] <Abhijit> dr_willis, ok droidmaxxx do not use nano for the time bing.i give you 15 mins. use vim or vi. and come back and give your valuable reply to dr_willis .
[06:16] <Abhijit> droidmaxxx, yes
[06:16] <afeagle> I thought so, but then ran across that post and it really had me upside down
[06:16] <kdccb> HOW TO CONNETCT WIFI MOBILES TO WIRED CONNECTIONS
[06:17] <dr_willis> write out the buffer to a file .. = save
[06:17] <dr_willis> !ics | kdccb
[06:17] <hilarie> When you are using other peoples commands from forums and stuff, sometimes it has & or && in them, what does that do, I can't seem to google it
[06:18] <dr_willis> hilarie:  'bash job controll'  check
[06:18] <dr_willis> & = run in background
[06:18] <Tex_Nick> afeagle : Wikipedia has a rather good description of the MBR "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record"
[06:18] <afeagle> so then could it be a problem that these os are going on sdf instead of sda?
[06:18] <droidmaxxx> dr_willis: Wrote :)  thank you....
[06:18] <dr_willis> && = run following IF first succedes
[06:18] <kdccb> thanks dr_willis
[06:18] <hilarie> dr_willis, thank you
[06:19] <dr_willis> afeagle:  grub goes on the mbr of the hd you want to boot. you have not mentioned partioning other disks.. just the one
[06:19] <dr_willis> you can put linux all on sdf. and grub on sdf also.. then boot sdf.. leaving windows untouched
[06:20] <afeagle> I know, I have four other drives in RAID for storage, and they show as A-D but they have to be on those due to being the only ones that are RAID enable, so was worried that being on sdf may cause an issue
[06:20] <dr_willis> i dont do raid. so no idea on that
[06:20] <afeagle> sde is a blank test bed drive, unused
[06:21] <afeagle> just wondering if having them all on sdf including MBR could cause an issue instead of sda
[06:22] <afeagle> Tex_Nick, thanks for the site!
[06:23] <prabu> how to install skype in ubuntu 12
[06:24] <Tex_Nick> afeagle : hey no problem ... it's a good article ;-)
[06:24] <DrGrov> How could I make Dash forget everything? It remembers my Videos, Music etc etc. and I do not like that. I tried MyUnity, Ubuntu Tweak etc. and have them installed but I must be missing something on how to set up.
[06:24] <afeagle> Thanks dr_willis for all the great intel
[06:24] <_Tristan> is there any way to make it log in automatically... without a gui?
[06:24] <fleet_skeet> how do i add/change software sources in quantal quetzal? on unity.
[06:26] <Patero-ng> when was gnome stopped being used
[06:26] <fleet_skeet> anyone?
[06:27] <fleet_skeet> how to change sources in quantal quetzal?
[06:27] <fleet_skeet> and add more sources
[06:30] <afeagle> one last question, during the install, do I mark just /boot as bootable or root as well?  I don't remember seeing this option in earlier versions.
[06:31] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  unity runs on top of gnome3
[06:31] <dr_willis> its a shell for gnome
[06:31] <dr_willis> i dont think grub cares about the bootable flag
[06:32] <dr_willis> !repos | fleet_skeet
[06:32] <afeagle> makes sense, thanks again dr_willis
[06:32] <fleet_skeet> dr_willis: what? how to change? this goddamn interface is horrible
[06:33] <dr_willis> fleet_skeet:   same as its always been done.. /etc/apt/sources.list or sources.list.d or the software-sources tool
[06:33] <dr_willis> or use  the ppa commands to add ppas
[06:34] <_Tristan> could somebody help me reset my graphics? I've tried every tutorial and read every thread.
[06:35] <dr_willis> _Tristan:  depends on what you did to them
[06:35] <_Tristan> don't remember, was drunk
[06:35] <_Tristan> I think I installed the x-swat ppa
[06:35] <dr_willis> then i suggest a reinstall.
[06:35] <SpeedArtBot> I like Vi
[06:35] <_Tristan> and a few nvidia drivers
[06:35] <dr_willis> theres the ppa-purge tools
[06:35] <_Tristan> I did ppa-purge
[06:35] <voxadam> How do I get rid of the standard motd? I edited it as root and saved it but the damn thing came back. While we
[06:35] <snkt> hello
[06:35] <dr_willis> but we dont know what you did.. so we cant really advise what to do
[06:36] <_Tristan> oh, wait a minute, I do have bash history
[06:36] <dr_willis> !motd
[06:36] <_Tristan> though I can't exactly tell what I was doing...
[06:36] <snkt> can anyone help me how to install splash screen on ubuntu 11.10  for ARM .... I have used ubuntucore image for ARM...
[06:36] <dr_willis> motd is handled by  a service.. is about all i recall.
[06:37] <dr_willis> its built up from  some other files in /etc/
[06:38] <Patero-ng> when was gnome stopped being used
[06:39] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  unity is a shell for gnome3.. so the answer is 'never'
[06:39] <Patero-ng> when was unity started then
[06:39] <dr_willis> !unity
[06:40] <dr_willis> about 4 releases ago i think
[06:41] <Patero-ng> many people didn't like that dr_jesus
[06:41] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  so?
[06:41] <Tex_Nick> Patero-ng : "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases" might help you
[06:41] <dr_willis> do you have an actual support question?
[06:41] <Patero-ng> if people don't like it is because something is wrong with unity
[06:41] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  your logic is flawed..
[06:42] <dr_willis> do you have an actual support question?
[06:42] <Patero-ng> thanks
[06:42] <Patero-ng> no yet but thanks for being so precious
[06:42] <fleet_skeet> Patero-ng: case in point : its damn hard to find the advanced settings. and there is no "fallback" option at login, to change out of the default unity
[06:43] <dr_willis> the fallback option was scheduled to be removed in the next release.. but i think its been given an extention. :)
[06:43] <fleet_skeet> how do i make a usb drive bootable? from ubuntu?
[06:43] <Patero-ng> I liked how 10.04 was I still have it on my older pc
[06:44] <dr_willis> fleet_skeet:  what are you trying to get it to boot?
[06:45] <Tex_Nick> fleet_skeet : usually done through BIOS :Boot Priority"
[06:45] <dr_willis> was that what he was asking?
[06:46] <Patero-ng> eres lindo
[06:46] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : not sure ... seemed like it though ?
[06:47] <dr_willis> Mind reading skill is required for helping in this channel..
[06:47] <fleet_skeet> well, im trying to install ubuntu onto it
[06:48] <fleet_skeet> i have a usb drive, with 4 partitions
[06:48] <Patero-ng> rely how big is it
[06:48] <fleet_skeet> Patero-ng: 4 gb :)
[06:48] <dr_willis> you 'image' the ubuntu iso onto a usb in different ways... you can boot a usb flasn and do a 'full' install to a 2nd usb flash/usb if you wanted
[06:48] <fleet_skeet> im trying to install ubuntu on the 4th partition
[06:49] <fleet_skeet> dr_willis: ok, that sound logical.
[06:49] <TheLordOfTime> not certain 1GB is enough to fully run Ubuntu...
[06:49] <dr_willis> why would you partition a 4gb usb? ;)
[06:49] <TheLordOfTime> that's a good question, too :P
[06:49] <fleet_skeet> dr_willis: some sort of crazy experiment. dont ask
[06:49] <SpacePoet> how big should i make my install partition?
[06:49] <fleet_skeet> i want the linux partition to be encrypted
[06:49] <dr_willis> grub2 can be setup to boot iso files
[06:50] <fleet_skeet> and the other 3 partitions to be encrypted, but unlockable
[06:50] <dr_willis> 1gb is not big enough to install 12.10 onto i imagine
[06:50] <dr_willis> 4gb would be barely enough i bet
[06:50] <sub__> I'd say 16gb to be safe.
[06:50] <dr_willis> assuming you want to do any real work with it
[06:51] <Patero-ng> you can boot live from 800mb usb partition
[06:51] <fleet_skeet> ok, here is the thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2093591
[06:51] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : i made an asumption ... thanks for reminding of that bad side of doing so :)
[06:51] <dr_willis> you can 'boot' from a 128mb flash also... but  thats besided the point
[06:52] <fleet_skeet> so, i get a bigger drive?
[06:52] <fleet_skeet> hold on, brb
[06:53] <Patero-ng> he can boot and save data onto other partition I am saying am i right
[06:53] <dr_willis> you can do a 'full' install to usb flash and have all sorts of partitions if you wanted to
[06:54] <dr_willis> for a useable system  / would need to be a few gb in size
[06:54] <TheLordOfTime> i agree with dr_willis, you'd need a few GBs of disk space for it to be truly usable
[06:55] <TheLordOfTime> bootability != usability
[06:55] <Patero-ng> are there pendrives of size 120 or higher
[06:56] <TheLordOfTime> 120 GB?
[06:56] <TheLordOfTime> not that i'm aware of.
[06:56] <rushboy> can anyone please help me with this : if I clone a repository from using clone command in terminal doesn't that serve the purpose of the software also being installed ? (the software concerned here is ClamAV and the git repository is : https://github.com/doomicon/ClamAV)
[06:57] <Patero-ng> is about time
[06:57] <afterknave1963> allu on gaay
[06:57] <TheLordOfTime> rushboy, you got the source code, not the binaries that're built from the source code.
[06:57] <TheLordOfTime> rushboy, you'd have to build that from source following its instructions for building and installing
[06:57] <TheLordOfTime> then it'd be available
[06:57] <aleksipelkonen> moro
[06:58] <afterknave1963> aleksi pelkonen on homo
[06:58] <afterknave1963> levit
[06:58] <dr_willis> there are 128gb usb flash drives.. but they are expensive
[06:58] <Aleksi> Allu on Gay!!
[06:58] <TheLordOfTime> and last i checked not *easily* available to get
[06:59] <dr_willis> 32gb goes forf $25 or so on sale
[06:59] <rushboy> TheLordOfTime, so how do I stall ClamAV via cloning the repository rather than actually installing it using sudo apt-get install
[06:59] <dr_willis> local stores had the 128's   for likr $145
[06:59] <TheLordOfTime> rushboy, i just told you?O
[06:59] <TheLordOfTime> rushboy, read the README in that repository
[07:00] <TheLordOfTime> rushboy, um...
[07:00] <dr_willis> why do you need to compile clamav?
[07:00] <xPower-Man> terve terve kansa :D
[07:00] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis, it uses RPMs o.O
[07:00] <Guest10522> Aleksi Pelkonen on homo!
[07:00] <dr_willis> theres ppa's for clamav last i looked
[07:00] <TheLordOfTime> rushboy, there's no code in there, you should go find a PPA for clamav and use that.
[07:00] <TheLordOfTime> but those're unsupported so...
[07:00] <xVERRAUx> Nii on !
[07:00]  * TheLordOfTime doesn't want to say that's a truly good idea :P
[07:00] <dr_willis> of course next question is .. why do you need clamav. ;)
[07:01] <xVERRAUx> xPowerMan is Gay !!!!!!HERE IS SMAAL PENIS !!
[07:01] <TheLordOfTime> !ops | xVERRAUx
[07:01] <xVERRAUx> Indonesia
[07:01] <xVERRAUx> JONNET
[07:01] <xVERRAUx> JONNET!
[07:02] <rushboy> dr_willis, there is no need as such for me to install clamAv . Just wanted to install any random program using git
[07:02] <cnz> if grub got installed to a drive that I didnt want it on for example grub got installed on /dev/sda and /dev/sdc I only want it on /dev/sdc is there a way to get it off of /dev/sda so grub will actually try to boot the correct drive
[07:02] <TheLordOfTime> rushboy, git isnt built to install anything
[07:02] <TheLordOfTime> rushboy, git's usually used for source code versioning, not installation of software...
[07:07] <rushboy> TheLordOfTime, I'm sorry but I am confused here .This might be a very stupid question : If I cloning does not serve the purpose of installing a program then what exactly do people use clone ?
[07:07] <rushboy> *why
[07:08] <dr_willis> 'installing' is not the same as compileing and coding and debuging
[07:09] <rushboy> dr_willis, then if I want to edit a piece of code of a given software and test it how do I do so ?
[07:09] <thunder1212> dr_willis: thnx.. the boot-repair worked!!
[07:10] <dr_willis> a group   of people would use git to work on a project that when  done could be compiled and packaged and distributed for people to install via .deb or other ways
[07:10] <rinzler> how do I enable ALT-tabbing between all windows regardless of desktop?
[07:10] <dr_willis> thunder1212:  its a handy tool. needs to be on the default cds ;)
[07:10] <thunder1212> dr_willis: it must be there by default in ubuntu
[07:12] <Patero-ng> are there computers being sold that come preloaded with ubuntu 12
[07:12] <dr_willis> andchat crashed on me. ;()
[07:12] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  system76 has severaL
[07:12] <damms005> Sorry good people, but I need help with ubuntu php ./configure and I cant /J #ubuntu because I am not invited
[07:12] <dr_willis> hmm.. this is #ubuntu ;)
[07:13] <dr_willis> you mean #php? it may be regiestered nicks only
[07:13] <Jordan_U> !register | damms005
[07:13] <damms005> yes sorry, #php
[07:14] <Patero-ng> damms005 this channel is not to talk about php
[07:15] <Jordan_U> Patero-ng: Yes, http://zareason.com/ , and http://system76.com among others.
[07:15] <dr_willis> well i dont know much about php. :)
[07:15] <damms005> dr_willis knows too much about linux :)
[07:15] <dr_willis> !lamp
[07:16] <dr_willis> is all i know on php. ;z0
[07:16] <dr_willis> ive never used it
[07:16] <Jordan_U> Patero-ng: Note that there is no "Ubuntu 12" though, there are however versions 12.04 and 12.10 of Ubuntu.
[07:16] <rinzler> how do I enable ALT-tabbing between all windows regardless of desktop?
[07:16] <thunder1212> dr_willis: any way i can block access to torrents in my network
[07:17] <dr_willis> rinzler:  askubuntu.com may have an answer. i think you can do it via the ccsm tools/plugins
[07:17] <dr_willis> thunder1212:  not that i know of
[07:17] <riqdiiz> Hi   I have tried to install slitaz but it has proved futile. Any time I run the live CD it goes straight to xterm window. So I get stuck from there. How do l boot into GUI tazpanel?
[07:17] <rinzler> dr_willis: mmkay. Thanks
[07:18] <dr_willis> riqdiiz:  ask in the slitaz support channels
[07:21] <thunder1212> any body know how i can easily block torrents from my router or limit upload download speed
[07:22] <Patero-ng> through a mathematical algorithm
[07:23] <dr_willis> there are nonmathamatical algorithms?
[07:23] <ktims> can someone explain how networkmanager starts dnsmasq? there seems to be no config and no script. it's setting it to listen on 127.0.0.1 but puts 127.0.1.1 in the resolv.conf
[07:23] <lng> Hi! Need to get mtop, but E: Unable to locate package mtop
[07:23] <Patero-ng> I dont know
[07:23] <dcherniv> dr_willis, cooking recipes
[07:23] <dr_willis> !info mtop
[07:24] <dr_willis> ing looks like you find a ppa for it or use source...
[07:24] <lng> dr_willis: can I grab it from lucid?
[07:24] <dr_willis> mixing packages from different releases is not a good idea
[07:26] <lng> dr_willis: ok, I will install it manually
[07:26] <AnAnt> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu precise on a Dell PowerEdge T410 server, the installer is asking me for disk driver, can anyone help ?
[07:30] <dr_willis>  #ubuntu-server  or askubuntu.com may help   AnAnt
[07:31] <Karlo_> Argh.  When I use the GUI, the Windows share does show up with the correct uid (my own); but when I try to do it from the command line, everything is shown as being owned by root.  I seem to be doing everything right according to the man page.
[07:33] <dr_willis> Karlo_:   using mount aftet using the gui way may show what options it used.
[07:33] <dr_willis> but it may be using gvfs..
[07:35] <damms005> Sorry please, but I couldnt join #php
[07:36] <kshakir> hi Elv13
[07:36] <Elv13> hi
[07:37] <SwedeMike> a/win 4
[07:37] <damms005> pleasedo I always have to reconnect after error: connection closed after many retries?
[07:37] <Tex_Nick> damms005 : #php is up & running ... you probably need to register your nick with the freenode server in order to join
[07:37] <thunder1212> dr_willis: can i set speed limits from my wifi router
[07:37] <dr_willis> thunder1212:  i dont know what features your router has..  so no idea
[07:38] <damms005> Tex_Nick: I have done /nick damms005
[07:38] <dr_willis> ived never noticed the feasture on any routers
[07:39]  * rinzler sighs
[07:39]  * dr_willis moos
[07:39] <Karlo_> dr_willis: Yes, I did try querying with the mount command, but it is indeed using gvfs...
[07:40] <Tex_Nick> damms005 : see "http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration" for help :)
[07:40] <dr_willis> Karlo_:  ages ago i sat down and read the 'using samba' book. ;) its in the repos  in the 'samba-doc' package it has lots of examples
[07:40] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[07:40] <dr_willis> but its a littler old in some chapters
[07:41] <Karlo_> For what it's worth, I'm using a command that used to work fine, on a different (older) machine.  I did an apt-get tonight, to install it on the new machine, and now it's not doing what I expect.
[07:41] <damms005> Tex_Nick: but #php is registered with +i soI need tobe invited
[07:42] <Karlo_> damms005: Did you try ##php
[07:42] <Karlo_> damms005: /list #php  --> "#php moved to ##php"
[07:42] <Tex_Nick> damms005 : have you registered your nick with freenode ... if not try rhat
[07:43] <damms005> Karlo_: Okay Thanks. I'm on it
[07:44] <pilotbub> Does Ubuntu really have Amazon links?
[07:44] <RomeoAva> please help me with that! http://pastebin.com/JFcuPKkA
[07:44] <dr_willis> theres searcxh results from amazon in 12.0
[07:45] <dr_willis> 12.10
[07:45] <RomeoAva> I don't know how to fix it
[07:45] <dr_willis> pilotbub:  its mentioned on blog sites and 12.10 'new feature' articales
[07:45] <RomeoAva> yesterday I had have the same problem
[07:45] <pilotbub> an interesting choice
[07:45] <somsip> !adlens | pilotbub
[07:46] <RomeoAva> it sad that: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:46] <RomeoAva> and I run, and the same advice cam: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:47] <serp_> keep running it!!
[07:47] <dr_willis> RomeoAva:  dupicate sources is not critical.
[07:47] <clintonshane84> Hi guys. Does anyone here have experience with USB Serial devices in ubuntu? My problem, I can connect to serial GSM modem ttyUSB0 but after quite a long time, it will stop responding, if I try to send it a command after a long time after connecting to it, I can still connect to it using minicom but I cannot type AT commands into the terminal once it gets to this state. I have to unplug the modem from the usb port and plug 
[07:47] <RomeoAva> ok, please help me to fix the problem
[07:48] <dr_willis> your  /etc/apt/soources.list or sources.list.d/* files have a redundant item
[07:48] <dr_willis> fine the duplicate and removed it
[07:48] <RomeoAva> because the aparance desktop is wrong
[07:48] <dr_willis> that souldent have any real affect on the system
[07:48] <RomeoAva> the comp is not opening in the properly mode
[07:49] <dr_willis> its doing what?
[07:49] <RomeoAva> ok, how to find it?
[07:50] <RomeoAva> I have 2 duplicate it
[07:50] <RomeoAva> were i can finde it?
[07:50] <RomeoAva> and I need to cut it?
[07:50] <RomeoAva> delete?
[07:51] <dr_willis> look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:51] <dr_willis> and in each file in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:51] <bazhang> !enter | RomeoAva
[07:52] <dr_willis> its likely you have a redundant ppa added. or a extra line in sources.list
[07:52] <RomeoAva> sorry :(
[07:53] <dr_willis> but the 'error' should not be affecting your system other then to display that warning message
[07:53] <clintonshane84> there is results on google for your proble RomeoAva
[07:53] <clintonshane84> I have had that problem before
[07:54] <dr_willis> the software sources tool may clean it up also
[07:56] <RomeoAva> ok, but the computer is not opening, is black, I ned to close it and open it again 2-3 times. after that is going in a wrong resolution, weh I tray to finde the good one there is no other then (4:3). For to fix that I need to reboot again until will go in the good resolutions
[07:56] <clintonshane84> help with usb serial GSM modem device? stops responding after some time of been used.
[07:56] <dr_willis> sounds like you have much bigger issues then a sources.list warning RomeoAva
[07:57] <clintonshane84> have to unplug the device and plug into different usb port to get it working properly again
[07:57] <clintonshane84> any ideas guys?
[07:58] <john__> Anyone use Aanvaal?
[07:58] <john__> The want 3000$ for my cite. ridicolous
[07:58] <dr_willis> sounds offtopic to ubuntu support also...
[07:59] <C4zz1dy> sure does..
[07:59] <john__> Well it's for ununtu and not opensource
[07:59] <C4zz1dy> the bots have found us!
[07:59] <john__> iriitates me
[07:59] <john__> use snort and BASË́
[07:59] <damms005> I'm sorry for asking this, but do I always have to re-login after a failed connection (maybe my modem accidentally disconnect and freenode gives a pop like: disconnected after several attempts)
[08:00] <dr_willis> damms005:  relogin to where?
[08:00] <john__> C4zz1dy, I am NOT a bot
[08:00] <zjs> ping
[08:00] <dr_willis> you mean 'identify' to fereenode? damms005 ? you do that everytime you connect
[08:01] <john__> I am however somwhat of a expert on UBUNTU so please ask..
[08:01] <dr_willis> most irc clients can auto identify on connection
[08:02] <clintonshane84> am I a ghost? Does anyone have experience with usb serial devices in Ubuntu?
[08:02] <clintonshane84> please help
[08:02] <dr_willis> clintonshane84:  sorry not me.
[08:02] <clintonshane84> anyone?
[08:02] <dr_willis> other then to suggest watching dmesg output and ther syslog to watch for errors
[08:03] <john__> whats' the problem?
[08:03] <clintonshane84> well, I have a GSM modem device ttyUSB0 connected and open to recieve SMS from the device and it works for hours on end
[08:03] <clintonshane84> but after a good couple of hours
[08:03] <clintonshane84> if you send an AT command to the device, the device stops responding
[08:04] <clintonshane84> you can still connect to it
[08:04] <clintonshane84> and it says it still there, ttyUSB0
[08:04] <clintonshane84> but no response from modem once this happens
[08:04] <john__> Sounds like your device is the problem
[08:04] <clintonshane84> and you have to physically unplug the modem from the usb port and change it to a different one to get it working again
[08:04] <clintonshane84> nope
[08:04] <clintonshane84> hardware is fine
[08:05] <clintonshane84> I can do a test in Windows
[08:05] <clintonshane84> to prove that
[08:05] <FloodBot1> clintonshane84: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:05] <john__> It works under windose?
[08:05] <clintonshane84> have not done the proper tests
[08:05] <clintonshane84> ok sorry
[08:05] <tiimoxx> hae
[08:05] <john__> sorry that should be a z
[08:06] <clintonshane84> do you think it could be a USB 2 Serial converter
[08:06] <dr_willis> sort of hard to test when it only does it after seversl hours.. that almost sounds like a heat or other power type issue.
[08:06] <pinkpelican> HIGUSY
[08:06] <pinkpelican> howru?
[08:07] <john__> Truth is I have no idea
[08:07] <clintonshane84> mee too
[08:07] <john__> Never had it never tried it
[08:07] <clintonshane84> ok can you tell me if there is a way to force reset the usb serial module or something like ehcd_hcd without unplugging the device to get it working again
[08:07] <clintonshane84> like from terminal?
[08:08] <dr_willis> you could unload then reload the module
[08:08] <dr_willis> if you knew its name
[08:08] <dr_willis> check lsmod befor you lplug it in, then afterwards when its working
[08:08] <clintonshane84> I have tried modprobe -r ehci_hcd but this gives me: FATAL: Module ehci_hcd is builtin. So how do I do that
[08:09] <clintonshane84> what will I be looking for dr_willis?
[08:09] <dr_willis> builtin = build into the kernel so tou cant unload it i imagine
[08:09] <dr_willis> compare the 2 lsmod outputs.. see whats different
[08:09] <clintonshane84> ok
[08:09] <clintonshane84> ty
[08:10] <aaas> do people mount smb shares (cifs) using fstab?  it seems like it tries to mount these shares before the network is up
[08:10] <dr_willis> aaas:  you could use the noauto option. i guess
[08:11] <aaas> dr_willis and if I want it automounted
[08:11] <dr_willis> then mount them from rc.local  ;) but thats sort of dirty
[08:11] <dr_willis> have a delay in rc.local to give the network time to get up
[08:12] <aaas> dr_willis so i guess fstab isn't really the place for network shares, or maybe the should have a fstab-net for these things
[08:12] <dr_willis> ive not doone shares in fstab in ages.. ;)
[08:12] <aaas> seems like a bug considering so many people have cifs in their fstab
[08:13] <aaas> how do you do it
[08:13] <dr_willis> i just use the nautilus mount as needed feature these days
[08:13] <aaas> ah..this is headless, a server
[08:13] <iceroot> aaas: there is a "wait" feature for network-shares
[08:13] <iceroot> aaas: working great for cifs and nfs
[08:14] <CUORE> HI
[08:14] <aaas> iceroot a wait feature?
[08:14] <iceroot> aaas: its trying to connect when the network is not up and after that its waiting until it is up
[08:14] <aaas> in fstab?
[08:14] <iceroot> aaas: its a mount-option
[08:14] <iceroot> wait'' which can be applied to remote filesystems mounted  outside  of  /usr  or /var,  without which mountall(8) would not hold up the boot for these; ``noboot‐ wait'' which can be applied to non-remote  filesystems  to  explicitly  instruct
[08:14] <aaas> iceroot a mount option you can put in fstab?
[08:14] <iceroot> aaas: man fstab  and see "wait" there
[08:15] <aaas> iceroot thanks ill look into 'bootwait'
[08:16] <CUORE> list
[08:16] <dr_willis> what kind of list?
[08:18] <clintonshane84> dr_willis I am having trouble making my onboard com1 port to work. I have followed instructions and checked that it is on the system but it wont work when I try to connect a modem to it
[08:18] <clintonshane84> I would rather use com1 onboard than USB to Serial converter, which I think is my problem
[08:19] <myhero> why can't i join #android or #Android ??
[08:19] <dr_willis> ive no had to use an actual serial  connection in years...   im not sure any of my machines even have a serial port these days
[08:19] <dr_willis> myhero:  regiestered nick required?
[08:19] <iceroot> !register | myhero
[08:20] <dr_willis> yep.. gotta registre and identify
[08:21] <Gwennifer> Dr_Willis: hay, I'm back. I decided to just install (K)Ubuntu, but I'm still having that problem where it won't let me go to a 1680x1050 resolution.
[08:21] <myhero> dr_willis: i am on webchat.freenode.net and not any client, when opening it.....there is nickname option to be specified in the beging only
[08:21] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  since the core of the os and drivers are the same. thame makes sence
[08:22] <notwist> myhero: read what is written to you
[08:22] <notwist> !register | myhero
[08:22] <dr_willis> myhero:  try /nick pickanick
[08:22] <Gwennifer> See, I told that guy that reinstalling wouldn't fix anything. So uhm, now what?
[08:23] <clintonshane84> current systems still have onboard serial, just no header attached by default
[08:23] <notwist> Gwennifer: believe it or not but most of us probably don't know what you're talking about. Ask an actual question
[08:23] <dr_willis> Gwennifer:  i recall there being a xrandr ubuntu wiki page that detailed forceing specific resolutions
[08:23] <notwist> Gwennifer: sorry, just saw your question
[08:23] <Gwennifer> Ubuntu won't let pick my native resolution, so I'll need to force it
[08:23] <notwist> Gwennifer: are you using proprietary drivers for your graphic card?
[08:23] <Gwennifer> No, it's an Intel integrated
[08:24] <stobix> I simply don't get this behaviour: when my battery goes down to about 10%, if I am watching youtube videos, X gets totally mangled up, and I end up with a black screen with some kernel-info like text and a frozen mouse pointer. Until I replug my power chord, and I end up with a login screen. Having logged in, I can see that the programs I was using is still running, eventhough they have no X to connect to. What on earth is going on here?
[08:24] <Gwennifer> Sorry, I'm a bit loopy. I've taken some really strong cold pills in the last few hours x_o;
[08:24] <notwist> Gwennifer: have you tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1943652
[08:25] <notwist> Gwennifer: the provided URL talks about updating the intel drivers from a custom repository
[08:26] <stobix> ("is still running" as in "I can pgrep them, but they are not to be found anywhere. I only seem to have one X running...)
[08:27] <Gwennifer> So I run all the commands that NikTh suggests?
[08:28] <dr_willis> bbl.
[08:29] <Gwennifer> Notwist: add-apt isn't a recognized command, wut do :x
[08:30] <Shahin-a> u menr apt-get ?
[08:30] <whitman> Gwennifer, it should be 'add-apt-repository'
[08:31] <Gwennifer> Oh, okay.
[08:32] <notwist> Gwennifer: yeah sorry, it's wrong in the forum post, its sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[08:32] <notwist> one command
[08:40] <Hackbat> To start things off, I'm a long time user of ubuntu, since 7.04 or so but I've run into a problem I have no idea how to fix
[08:40] <meiwes> Is there a portable jre that works on ubuntu
[08:41] <Hackbat> I'm trying to install it on a new system and I can NOT get it to boot.
[08:42] <Hackbat> I've tried every combonation of boot order and bootloader location and it just goes straight to windows
[08:42] <notwist> Hackbat: are you booting from USB?
[08:42] <Hackbat> no
[08:42] <notwist> Hackbat: ...so what are you booting from? You need to supply more information if anyone's going to be able to help you
[08:43] <Hackbat> I isntall via a CD on to a 100gb partition
[08:43] <Hackbat> I mean I can get the CD to boot
[08:43] <notwist> Hackbat: ok, and your CD-ROM reader is recognized in the BIOS?
[08:43] <Hackbat> You're missing the details of my post
[08:43] <Hackbat> I've got it installed
[08:44] <notwist> Hackbat: ok, so you mean you can boot from the CD; you actually installed Ubuntu onto a partition but it's not showing up after that
[08:44] <Hackbat> yes
[08:44] <notwist> Hackbat: have you tried installing GRUB manually from the Ubuntu CD?
[08:44] <Hackbat> No
[08:44] <notwist> Hackbat: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html
[08:45] <notwist> Hackbat: the point is that you can install GRUB (boot manager) onto whatever disk you like, it will then auto detect Windows _and_ Ubuntu
[08:45] <notwist> Hackbat: however, grub SHOULD be installed on your Ubuntu disk.
[08:45] <Gwennifer> Ooh, that reminds me. Is there a way to get GRUB to default into loading W7 instead of Ubuntu?
[08:45] <notwist> Hackbat: is Windows installed on a separate physical disk from Ubuntu, or just on a different partition (same disk)?
[08:45] <Gwennifer> Uhm, I'll wait .-.
[08:45] <notwist> Gwennifer: its simple, just check the grub config files, you can define defaults there
[08:45] <Hackbat> Same disk
[08:46] <notwist> Hackbat: then you need to install GRUB on that disk
[08:46] <kshakir> hi krnlklink
[08:46] <notwist> Hackbat: GRUB will replace the windows bootloader, but GRUB is better because it will recognize both Ubuntu and Windows and let you choose
[08:46] <kshakir> hi xephexx__
[08:46] <Hackbat> I told it to install the bootloader there
[08:46] <Hackbat> I know all this
[08:46] <Hackbat> I'm just wondering why it's not doing it
[08:46] <notwist> Hackbat: well, if Windows is booting then GRUB isn't starting, so thats your issue. Question is why
[08:47] <notwist> Hackbat: I'm guessing running only Ubuntu isn't an option
[08:47] <notwist> Hackbat: regardless I think you need to try manually forcing the GRUB installation, try checking out this article: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[08:47] <notwist> Hackbat: I know thats not your exact problem but process should be the same
[08:48] <Hackbat> That's what I'm about to do
[08:48] <Gwennifer> How do I configure GRUB while I wait for dist-upgrade to finish? :x
[08:48] <notwist> Hackbat: if you enter GRUB and run the commands correctly Windows shouldn't be able to boot automatically because the Windows bootloader should be overwritten. If it still does, it's obviously not overwritten.
[08:48] <notwist> Gwennifer: you should probably wait, otherwise just open a new terminal window
[08:49] <Gwennifer> Okay.
[08:50] <notwist> Hackbat: the article i linked suggests that on some computers, Windows actually overwrites MBR without you asking it to, might be something related to that as well, its hard to say
[08:50] <xephexx___> I tried ubuntu 12.10 but for some reason it ran a lot warmer than ubuntu 12.04...with ubuntu 12.10 my computer idled at about 45 degrees celcius and with ubuntu 12.04 it idles at about 31 degrees celcius...does anybody know why
[08:50] <notwist> xephexx___: if you're running Unity that might be it, it's a bit graphically intense
[08:50] <notwist> xephexx___: also might be related to your fans, if they sound more silent
[08:51] <notwist> xephexx___: 45 degrees celsius is still way below anything you need to be worried about
[08:51] <xephexx___> I was using unity with both 12.04 and 12.10
[08:51] <notwist> xephexx___: well if you don't know what your fan speeds are at now and what they were before its hard to compare. Maybe your fans were going slightly faster before and the policy has been changed
[08:52] <Hackbat> so the live CD is saying grub doesn't exist
[08:52] <sbaugh> How would I get past the first-start ubuntu configuration window with only the command line? I can't use X for the first-start config, but X/GUI after that is fine.
[08:52] <notwist> Hackbat: you might be interested in http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ as well
[08:52] <xephexx___> ooohhh I think I see...thanks
[08:53] <notwist> xephexx___: temp is still fine so don't worry :)
[08:53] <kjoseph> error: no such partition. grub resque>
[08:53] <sbaugh> What do I need to do to mark the system as "set up" sufficiently? (I've already made an account)
[08:53] <xephexx___> thanks notwist
[08:53] <notwist> kjoseph: huh?
[08:53] <kjoseph> hi every one
[08:53] <Gwennifer> Okay, I finished the dist-upgrade command.
[08:54] <kjoseph> hi notwist
[08:54] <kjoseph> notwist: i really and humbly request for your assistance, i have windows 7 and ubuntu installed on my hp g7 notebook, while using windows i downloaded a partition manage rsoftware, while deleting partitions i deleted the boot partition by mistake, when i switch on now having shut down i get:
[08:55] <notwist> kjoseph: sounds like you have a similar issue to Hackbat, you probably need to install GRUB, not rescue it (if you deleted the partition).
[08:55] <Jordan_U> kjoseph: Did you have a separate /boot/ partition or did you delete the partition containing all of Ubuntu?
[08:55] <notwist> kjoseph: if the boot partition is _gone_ you need to create it first
[08:56] <kvothetech> kjoseph: if you had a sepearet boot partition just remake it reinstall your boot loader and (syslinux grub lilo etc) kernel and initramfs...
[08:56] <kvothetech> and you'll be fine
[08:57] <notwist> kvothetech: lilo? really? :D
[08:57] <Jordan_U> Hackbat: Can you boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces?
[08:57] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Hackbat
[08:57] <kvothetech> notwist: lol i didn't say i'd use it...i use syslinux...but it's an option.
[08:57] <notwist> kvothetech: so is Windows 98 I guess ;)
[08:58] <notwist> kvothetech: is your nickname from the books about Kvothe by the way?
[08:58] <kvothetech> yes :)
[08:58] <kjoseph> notwist: kvothetech: how should i create the partition, what about grub, i had just joined ubuntu and am not familiar with this
[08:58] <notwist> great books
[08:58] <kvothetech> kingkiller by patrick rothfuss
[08:58] <skp1> ot
[08:58] <notwist> kjoseph: could you try doing the boot info script thing first
[08:59] <notwist> kjoseph: one thing at a time :)
[08:59] <sbaugh> Does anyone know even the name of the process that does the ubuntu graphical first-start setup?
[08:59] <notwist> sbaugh: should be easy to find out with htop
[08:59] <sbaugh> I need to skip past it without having access to a GUI
[08:59] <notwist> sbaugh: when it's running, switch to terminal and run htop, then start looking :)
[09:00] <sbaugh> notwist: Heh, I don't even have htop
[09:00] <notwist> sbaugh: I think "top" should be installed by default
[09:01] <kvothetech> kjoseph: create te partition depends if you have gpt or mbr if you have gpt parted if you have mbr fdisk.
[09:01] <Jordan_U> kjoseph: Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[09:01] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | kjoseph
[09:01] <sbaugh> notwist: So you have no idea of how to go from there to skipping the configuration?
[09:01] <kvothetech> kjoseph: then mkfs.<filesystem type> then install your kernel and bootloader etc
[09:01] <notwist> sbaugh: I don't
[09:01] <notwist> sbaugh: I mean, if you find out what process that is you could just kill it
[09:01] <kvothetech> kjoseph: er mount it in there first and add it back to your fstab etc
[09:02] <notwist> sbaugh: but I have no idea if it restarts automatically. Have you tried searching for ubuntu headless install or unattended installs? Should be plenty of info on it on the interwebs
[09:02] <Gwennifer> Okay, so I finished the dist-upgrade command, where do I go from here to get my resolution?
[09:02] <myhero> how to hide join exit msgs in irssi ?
[09:02] <notwist> Gwennifer: I believe the forum thread recommended a reboot
[09:02] <notwist> myhero: google it. its in the irssi faq/manual
[09:02] <Gwennifer> Okay, be right back
[09:03] <notwist> Gwennifer: lets hope ;)
[09:03] <kvothetech> Jordan_U: ? what's the bootscript do? or is that basically all of what i just said prescripted
[09:04] <doomgiver> dr_willis: hey, i instaled ubuntu in that 8 gb pen drive. here is the partition scheme :
[09:04] <notwist> doomgiver: if you install with something like unetbootin you dont have to worry about partitions on the USB
[09:05] <Hackbun> Could the fact I have UEFI bios screw me up?
[09:05] <Jordan_U> kvothetech: It probes for various information about a system, mostly giving information about partitions, boot sectors, and boot files, and produces a nice readable report.
[09:05] <doomgiver> 1 gb sdb1 fat32 | 300 mb sdb5 ext4 /boot | rest sdb6 (crypto) /
[09:05] <notwist> Jordan_U kvothetech looks like an awesome script
[09:05] <doomgiver> notwist: well,  i have a very specific reason to partiition my usb drive
[09:05] <notwist> doomgiver: allright, so whats your issue
[09:06] <doomgiver> hold on, let me link to the forums
[09:06] <doomgiver> my problem is, now i installed ubuntu, it does not boot off the usb drive
[09:06] <Jordan_U> Hackbun: Yes, having UEFI firmware could cause this type of problem if Ubuntu installed via BIOS. Did you boot the 32 bit or 64 bit Ubuntu CD?
[09:06] <Hackbun> 64 bit
[09:06] <doomgiver> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2093591
[09:07] <doomgiver> this is what im trying to do
[09:07] <notwist> doomgiver: have you marked the partition on the USB you want to be bootable as bootable?
[09:07] <Jordan_U> Hackbun: Did your firmware give you any options when you booted from the CD?
[09:07] <Hackbun> no
[09:07] <notwist> doomgiver: also, why do you want to boot of the usb if ubuntu is installed? do you want to run ubuntu live from the usb only?
[09:07] <doomgiver> notwist: er, um, in the install screen, i gave the bootsect location as sda5
[09:07] <Hackbun> But I see it's booting it in uefi mode
[09:07] <Hackbun> cause the menu is different
[09:07] <doomgiver> i mean sdb5 or whatever, but it was sdx5
[09:08] <root_____> exit
[09:08] <notwist> doomgiver: what are you trying to achieve, an encrypted ubuntu live usb or what?
[09:08] <doomgiver> notwist: yeah, that. did you read the foum link i posrted?
[09:08] <doomgiver> * forum * posted
[09:08] <Jordan_U> Hackbun: If the CD booted in UEFI mode when you installed, then it also should have configured Ubuntu to install grub-efi and otherwise be bootable via UEFI. Please run boot info script as I asked, and in addition please run "efibootmgr" and pastebin the output.
[09:09] <notwist> doomgiver: I have no idea how to do what you specifically want to do, but creating an encrypted live ubuntu USB shouldnt be hard, im sure there are a million guides for it online
[09:09] <notwist> doomgiver: you would probably save time by just having two separate usbs, one for ubuntu and one for windows
[09:09] <doomgiver> notwist: no, that wont do. it has to be this way. its for a project.
[09:10] <doomgiver> is there no way?
[09:10] <doomgiver> coz windows wont recognize the 2nd partition, only the first.
[09:10] <notwist> doomgiver: well, the red part i would recommend a truecrypt container, which would require truecrypt to be installed in windows
[09:10] <xephexx___> I don't know how many people know this but you can give people the middle finger in facebook...the code is [[MIDFING]]...and presto you get the middle finger...
[09:10] <Jordan_U> !ot | xephexx___
[09:11] <notwist> doomgiver: for the blue part, i would recommend following a guide for creating an ubuntu live encrypted usb and just making the partitions smaller, so you can use 50 % for an NTFS partition -- the NTFS partition should be at the END of the USB, not the start as in your picture
[09:11] <xephexx___> okay
[09:11] <doomgiver> hmm, does the truecrypt thingy have to be installed in every computer i use? or cant i just run a program/script to unlock the partitiion?
[09:11] <stonestone> Hello! I've got quite the general question. We've got a client that's supposed to get the source for a project me and my colleagues have made. Problem is that the installation process is quiet obnoxious and I want to automate this for them when they get it. Any ideas how to do this? Bash might be able to do it, just that I want it to be good. It should git pull from a remote branch, install
[09:11] <stonestone> multiple packages (node, mongo, AMP stack, some PHP addons) and then generate the configuration files based on input from the user :)
[09:12] <notwist> stonestone: bash script sounds good
[09:12] <kshakir> hi kshakir
[09:12] <kshakir> hi kshakir
[09:12] <kshakir> hi kshakir
[09:12] <kshakir> hi kshakir
[09:12] <FloodBot1> kshakir: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:12] <Gwennifer> I'm back!
[09:12] <Gwennifer> I still can't set my resolution
[09:12] <notwist> Gwennifer: :D
[09:12] <Gwennifer> to 1680x1050
[09:12] <stonestone> notwist isn't the risk for bricken the system quiet big using bash?
[09:12] <notwist> stonestone: why?
[09:13] <notwist> Gwennifer: so you installed the repo and you updated the intel drivers, still nothing?
[09:13] <Jordan_U> doomgiver: Ubiquity, Ubuntu's graphical installer, should support encrypted partitions now. So just install normally.
[09:13] <Gwennifer> Iunno if I updated my Intel drivers but I did everything on that link
[09:13] <Hackbun> notwist, I found the problem, Windows is installed legacy. I can handle it from here
[09:13] <notwist> Hackbun: what does legacy mean? Glad you found the problem :)
[09:13] <krnlklink> anyone on ever install the xcp on top of ubuntu?
[09:13] <doomgiver> Jordan_U: yeah, it does, thats what im using, however, i have a USB with multile partitions... thats creating problems
[09:14] <notwist> Gwennifer: sorry, no idea what to do except google some more
[09:14] <Jordan_U> doomgiver: What problems are you having with Ubiquity?
[09:14] <doomgiver> notwist: i cant push the ntfs at back.. else windows wint recognize it.
[09:14] <stonestone> notwist missing dependencies etc, but I will try and make it :)
[09:14] <notwist> doomgiver: encrypted partitions and /boot should be at the start of the usb and marked as bootable. start with that before anything else, then add NTFS afterwards
[09:14] <doomgiver> Jordan_U: nothing, it instealls perfectly. howver, the system does not boot off the usb. it cannot find the bootloader
[09:14] <notwist> stonestone: bash scripting is identical to actually running commands in the prompt, i dont see what you mean. dependencies are always solved by apt
[09:15] <doomgiver> hmm.
[09:15] <Hackbun> notwist, I have a hybrid setting on my bios that allows uefi stuff boot as uefi and legacybios boot as legacybios
[09:15] <doomgiver> wait, i think i got it.
[09:15] <Hackbun> But they can't be on the same harddrive
[09:15] <Jordan_U> notwist: doomgiver: Order of partitions and boot flags are irrelevant to GNU/Linux.
[09:15] <notwist> Jordan_U: allright
[09:15] <myhero> clear
[09:15] <doomgiver> 1st would be boot, then ntfs, then the encrypted thingy
[09:15] <doomgiver> oh well, time to slog
[09:15] <doomgiver> brb
[09:15] <lng>  /part
[09:15] <notwist> doomgiver well if Jordan_U is correct the /boot can be anywhere
[09:16] <doomgiver> actually,, my boot was in sdx5
[09:16] <Jordan_U> doomgiver: Did you have Ubiquity install grub's boot sector to the MBR? Is the machine you're booting from using BIOS or UEFI based firmware?
[09:16] <doomgiver> and i had set it via the bottom drop down menu to be sdx5
[09:16] <notwist> doomgiver: so what happens when you try to boot from the usb?
[09:16] <notwist> doomgiver: any errors?
[09:16] <doomgiver> Jordan_U: im guessing bios, (isnt uefi the one with fancy graphics and doodads?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> doomgiver: That's the problem then. Grub's boot sector goes in the MBR, because among other things that's what your BIOS loads.
[09:17] <doomgiver> notwist: yeah. it says : remove all removable devices and press enter
[09:17] <xephexx___> so we are not allowed to talk about facebook on the IRC or what???
[09:17] <Hackbun> okay...so I can't install 64 bit ubuntu onto my system as long as windows exists
[09:17] <doomgiver> ok, let me try again
[09:17] <Jordan_U> doomgiver: Without grub in the MBR, when your BIOS loads the MBR of the USB drive grub won't be loaded :)
[09:17] <johan_> Hackbun i believe there is a fix for that
[09:17] <doomgiver> xephexx__: dude, go to a social channel or #defocus
[09:17] <doomgiver> Jordan_U: gotcha, brb again
[09:18] <xephexx___> why
[09:18] <xephexx___> I like it here
[09:18] <notwist> xephexx___: its a support channel
[09:18] <Jordan_U> Hackbun: Not at all. Please provide the requested information.
[09:18] <thesadmafioso> Hi. Is it normal for the alternate installers to take a long time to load?
[09:18] <SpaceRocket> USB 3G modem K3770 is recognized but not able to connect
[09:18] <doomgiver> xephexx__: srs bizness is done here
[09:18] <doomgiver> no hanky panky playtime
[09:18] <Hackbun> just hold on
[09:18] <xephexx___> oh I see can I get a channel that is for community chat
[09:18] <notwist> xephexx___: people expect questions and answers in this channel, so its common courtesy to not fill it with other stuff
[09:19] <xephexx___> ok
[09:19] <thesadmafioso> I am trying to install 12.04.1 64 bit with the alternate installer and it's just sitting at a black screen with a blinking cursor for a long time.
[09:19] <notwist> xephexx___: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:19] <notwist> xephexx___: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[09:19] <thesadmafioso> Can't access a tty or anything like that . . . it just . . . sits.
[09:19] <Gwennifer> NotTwist: the page I found suggested I just fix it in xorg.conf but I can't find that file
[09:20] <notwist> Gwennifer: then you google "where is xorg.conf" ;)
[09:20] <notwist> thesadmafioso: what part of the installation are you at?
[09:20] <somsip> Gwennifer: xorg.conf is not created by default since an earlier version of ubuntu
[09:21] <myhero> !register | Myx0x3
[09:21] <somsip> Gwennifer: it should live in /etc/X11 if you create one
[09:21] <cnf> damn kwallet! >,<
[09:22] <thesadmafioso> notwist: The alternate installer just goes to a black screen right after the BIOS detects the USB drive.
[09:22] <almoxarife> cnf: set kwallet to 'no password' , problem solved
[09:22] <notwist> thesadmafioso: by "alternate" do you mean the mini iso?
[09:22] <cnf> grr >,<
[09:22] <Hackbun> I'd probablt be better off just reinstalling windows and forcing UEFI mode on that
[09:22] <cnf> i don't even know what the hell it is doing atm
[09:23] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Not sure what you mean by mini iso, it's the same size as the regular installer just the text based one.
[09:23] <almoxarife> thesadmafioso: using an old cd?
[09:23] <notwist> thesadmafioso: try putting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD on the USB with unetbootin, Ive had success with that when other USBs failed
[09:23] <cnf> grr, and no bloody feedback!!!!
[09:23] <netiul> how is the php.ini location _configured_ with a default apache2/php5 installation?
[09:23] <notwist> thesadmafioso: internet connection is required as it will fetch all packets
[09:23] <thesadmafioso> notwist: It is an .iso file though. I am not getting any kind of init or anything from the bootloader at all.
[09:24] <somsip> notwist: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[09:24] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Nah, this is the newest distro, 12.04.1
[09:24] <cnf> seems i can't open the damned thing
[09:24] <somsip> netiul: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[09:24] <notwist> thesadmafioso that was almoxarife asking about the cd
[09:24] <netiul> somsip, i know, but i ask _how_ :)
[09:24] <thesadmafioso> notwist: yeah realized that lol
[09:24] <thesadmafioso> The other thing is that this is an AMD 64-bit system. :(
[09:24] <somsip> netiul: what do you want - a copy of a virgin php.ini?
[09:25] <notwist> thesadmafioso: have you tried pressing F[something] at boot and selecting boot device manually to the USB so you can be 100% sure its booting from that?
[09:25] <notwist> thesadmafioso: if you are sure, then id recommend other usb stick/try the mini iso instead
[09:25] <thesadmafioso> I expected problems setting up because of it being AMD but I'm having no luck.
[09:25] <johan_> Hackbun: I remember having problem install an ubuntu with 64-bit before too with an forced UEFI. Have you tried installing ubuntu from "Try Ubuntu without installing"?
[09:25] <netiul> somsip, i'm running 2 instances of apache2, trying to competely seperate the config
[09:25] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Ok, I will try that route next.
[09:25] <netiul> somsip, but both take the same php.ini
[09:25] <notwist> thesadmafioso: if it hangs that early it has nothing to do with amd, something is wrong with the usb or the stuff on it
[09:26] <Hackbun> johan_, It's not forced uefi
[09:26] <thesadmafioso> johan_: Yes, tried that first. It crashed trying to run the slideshow, so I apt-get remove ubiquity-slideshow, it almost finished installing, then crashed right toward the end when trying to install the language packs.
[09:26] <notwist> netiul: maybe you should create a virtual environment
[09:26] <somsip> netiul: you want to be able to use different php.ini for each instance of apache2?
[09:26] <netiul> somsip, yep
[09:26] <cnf> wtf, i can't even create a new wallet???
[09:26] <netiul> notwist, not an option :)
[09:27] <Hackbun> This is not worth my time, I'm going with my plan. Windows install here I come.
[09:27] <notwist> netiul: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RunningMultipleApacheInstances
[09:28] <thesadmafioso> notwist: ALso, I am sure that it's booting in the right priority, changed the boot settings in BIOS.
[09:28] <thesadmafioso> Thanks all for your help, I'm going to take another crack at this.
[09:28] <notwist> thesadmafioso: well then im pretty sure something is wonky with the usb
[09:28] <notwist> thesadmafioso: if youre not using unetbootin i recommend that
[09:28] <xephexx___> does anybody know of a quicker way to get root priviledges in nautilus besides sudo nautilus
[09:28] <almoxarife> thesadmafioso: specifically, what is the name of the iso file you are using?
[09:28] <AnAnt> Hello, is there a simple video editing software on Ubuntu  ? I tried pitivi, but can't understand it
[09:28] <notwist> xephexx___: create a shortcut to that command on the desktop
[09:28] <notwist> AnAnt: define "simple"
[09:29] <AnAnt> simple to use
[09:29] <xephexx___> ok I'll try
[09:29] <thesadmafioso> notwist: I am using unetbootin, have had much success with it before. I'm installing this for a friend.
[09:29] <cnf> ok, i broke kde
[09:29] <cnf> worthless
[09:29] <notwist> AnAnt: Handbrake is great for encoding and "cropping" (only encoding a certain part of a video) and also resizing
[09:29] <almoxarife> cnf: sounds like operator error, kde runs flawless here
[09:30] <notwist> thesadmafioso: well, hopefully the mini iso will work better, as i said ive had success with it when "normal" isos wouldnt boot for no reason. Also you could try linux mint, same experience there
[09:30] <cnf> almoxarife: yes, thank you for that worthless bit of information
[09:30] <notwist> cnf: your information isnt exactly useful either
[09:30] <thesadmafioso> almoxarife: The iso is ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[09:30] <notwist> cnf: you're just whining
[09:30] <cnf> notwist: it's not telling me anything, either
[09:30] <almoxarife> cnf: you are welcome, you need to start with something simple, try puppy-linux
[09:30] <somsip> netiul: another approach is to use php_value in the virtual hosts file, but I guess it depends how many changes you want to make http://serverfault.com/questions/34078/how-do-i-set-up-per-site-php-ini-files-on-a-lamp-server-using-namevirtualhosts
[09:31] <cnf> it won't accept my password, and not giving me feedback
[09:31] <notwist> cnf: try a terminal
[09:31] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Mint is definitely an option, this is a windows user experiencing linux for the first time though and the support with Ubuntu/Canonical would be advantageous.
[09:31] <cnf> notwist: yes, thank you, i did
[09:31] <AnAnt> notwist: I don't understand the "cropping", I need to cut some pieces from the vid, or mute some parts
[09:31] <notwist> thesadmafioso: linux mint is based on Ubuntu fyi
[09:31] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Yep, I know :)
[09:31] <notwist> AnAnt: ok, well then you need a real editor. Sorry, dunno
[09:32] <notwist> thesadmafioso: I usually prefer Windows if the user is comfortable with Windows before, it's more similar
[09:32] <notwist> um
[09:32] <almoxarife> cnf: a kwallet password is not necessarily the user pass,  kwallet was set with a password, that is the one it expects
[09:32] <notwist> linux mint
[09:32] <RomeoAva> Please were I  can paste a photo with my Software Sources
[09:32] <thesadmafioso> notwist: You mean mint?
[09:32] <cnf> almoxarife: yes, i know this
[09:32] <notwist> thesadmafioso: yeah
[09:32] <AnAnt> ok, thanks
[09:32] <cnf> almoxarife: i am telling you it is not accepting this password
[09:32] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Hmm, definitely will keep that in mind as an option.
[09:32] <netiul> somsip, that could work i guess, but nicer would be to config the instance's default php.ini loc
[09:32] <RomeoAva> because I don't know what to chose from it
[09:32] <netiul> somsip, thanks for the link though
[09:33] <notwist> thesadmafioso: well, try mini iso and then mint :)
[09:33] <notwist> thesadmafioso: the lighter versions of mint (LXCE?) are great for old comps as well
[09:33] <notwist> thesadmafioso: LXDE*
[09:33] <cnf> it's not telling wrong pass, it's not telling me anything
[09:33] <cnf> it's just not unlocking
[09:33] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Ha, this guy has a Samsung AMD 64bit with 4GB RAM so he should be good.
[09:34] <somsip> netiul: this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9269083/set-path-to-php-ini
[09:34] <notwist> thesadmafioso: maybe he wants to be 1337 and avoid bloat ;)
[09:34] <cnf> i can't even make a NEW wallet
[09:34] <Gwennifer> NotTwist: Okay, maybe I just don't have xorg.conf?
[09:34] <notwist> Gwennifer: if you have a graphical interface you should have it
[09:34] <almoxarife> cnf: but as kde is extremely user friendly it allows for configing kwallet with some other password, most people run kwallet 'passwordless' since it cant be retrived without the initial user login or sudo/kdesu
[09:35] <notwist> cnf: run it from a terminal, youll get error messages then probably. Try running it as root also from terminal
[09:35] <dazzel> having trouble to setup the correct routing for linux home made wireless vpn router, everything works fine, clients can connect and get ip and internet adress and instant vpn connection but the lighttpd server running on the wifi router can no longer be accessed
[09:35] <cnf> notwist: i _have_ run it from terminal, as i have said
[09:35] <notwist> dazzel: i can tell you right now you _need_ to draw that up for anyone to understand
[09:35] <cnf> as i said
[09:36] <notwist> cnf: and as root you still cant create a new wallet?
[09:36] <cnf> almoxarife:  and again, not helpful, is it?
[09:36] <almoxarife> notwist: xorg.conf does not exist all setups
[09:36] <justdave> I just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and my vnc server no longer works  I just get the default desktop background with no dock or menu bar or anything.
[09:36] <dazzel> notwist, i know..its complicated..
[09:36] <justdave> been googling and browsing forums for a couple hours with no solutions found that actually work
[09:36] <notwist> justdave: try teamviewer? :)
[09:36] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Think it's ok to use the minimal .iso from a USB drive though?
[09:36] <notwist> thesadmafioso: why not?
[09:37] <cnf> notwist: as root i can create a new wallet for root
[09:37] <thesadmafioso> notwist: :) Agreed.
[09:37] <almoxarife> cnf: of course it is helpful, kwallet left without password is the way most kde users run kde
[09:37] <notwist> thesadmafioso: whole point of the minimal iso is "as little as possible from the start, fetch it all from the internet"
[09:38] <myhero> jjd
[09:38] <cnf> almoxarife: how is it helpful how other people might have done things?
[09:38] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Right. Will I be able to launch a net browser though? I can't access the net where I'm at without loggin in via a web page.
[09:38] <dazzel> notwist, i used a proxy on the wifi router before, privoxy, with tor and johndo that worked superb. Now with the tunneling setup by openvpn all loca traffic, will reroute trough the tun0 and then drops..
[09:38] <almoxarife> cnf: kwallet for root?
[09:38] <notwist> thesadmafioso: no, it
[09:38] <notwist> thesadmafioso: no, its not a live usb
[09:39] <notwist> thesadmafioso: but neither is the text based installer
[09:39] <cnf> almoxarife: stop trolling
[09:39] <notwist> thesadmafioso: technically you might be able to switch to termina, run "sudo apt-get install lu
[09:39] <notwist> F***
[09:39] <notwist> sudo apt-get install lynx
[09:39] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Dang. Well will it give me enough to boot into a bare bones Ubuntu though?
[09:39] <notwist> and then run lynx to validate
[09:39] <notwist> thesadmafioso: have you ever used lynx? its a text based browser, its pretty simple
[09:39] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Ha, yeah I guess I could try it. Not too well versed with lynx though.
[09:40] <notwist> thesadmafioso: well its just arrows to navigate, fill out forms, enter to submit
[09:40] <thesadmafioso> notwist: I've used it to grab source from pages, --dump and stuff like that.
[09:40] <almoxarife> cnf: i am not trolling my friend, you are not understanding kde and insuring the rest of us enjoy your blow by blow of what you are doing
[09:40] <notwist> thesadmafioso: if you need to fill out a form with user/pass and submit you can do that easily from lynx
[09:40] <notwist> thesadmafioso: without any fancy graphical interface ;)
[09:40] <Gwennifer> Notwist: I'm pretty sure I don't have a xorg.conf. Can I make one?
[09:41] <cnf> almoxarife: I'm not understanding kde? ha!
[09:41] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Well, that is definitely another option. So I should be able to get into a tty and maybe get lynx. One good thing is that he has an Atheros wlan card and I know it works straight away.
[09:41] <notwist> thesadmafioso: you should, otherwise maybe mint is the way to go
[09:41] <notwist> Gwennifer: you really should have it
[09:41] <cnf> almoxarife: and you telling me what other people do really shows how much you know!
[09:41] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Yeah, we just need to get this guy on Linux of some form so he can see the light.
[09:41] <cnf> so helpful
[09:41] <dazzel> notwist, solved it..thnx anyway
[09:41] <notwist> Gwennifer: if you run "ls /etc/" theres not an xorg there?
[09:42] <cnf> notwist: so a reboot fixed it
[09:42] <cnf> notwist: go figure...
[09:42] <cnf> almost feels like i'm on windows
[09:42] <somsip> Gwennifer: yes, you can create one if you need to. There are tools to do this if you have no desire to make one from scratch
[09:42] <thesadmafioso> notwist: not to mention that I am going to try and eradicate Back Orifice from his Windows partition, which I'm fairly certain he's contracted from unsafe computer sex.
[09:42] <Gwennifer> Notwist: I can't find it using the locate command after updatedb
[09:42] <somsip> Gwennifer: /etc/X11
[09:42] <thesadmafioso> notwist: You can tell these kiddies a thousand times . . .
[09:42] <cnf> i hate not knowing what the problem was
[09:42] <Gwennifer> somsip: It's not in etc/x11
[09:42] <almoxarife> notwist: not true, i dont have xorg.conf, the newer distros use /etc/x11/xorg.conf.d
[09:42] <notwist> thesadmafioso: well mint/ubuntu will save you some time then ;)
[09:43] <somsip> Gwennifer: capial X11, but if it's not there, it's not there. Quite normal on a recent version of Ubuntu
[09:43] <Gwennifer> somsip: Can you name a tool to make one, please?
[09:43] <somsip> Gwennifer: what video card?
[09:44] <Gwennifer> Intel...?
[09:44] <cnf> almoxarife: and my wallet still has the password _I_ set
[09:44] <cnf> almoxarife: not magically no password, because that's what other people do
[09:44] <notwist> cnf stop acting like an imbecile
[09:45] <almoxarife> cnf: do yourself a favor, run kwallet without password, or not, as you please
[09:45] <Gwennifer> somsip: intel!
[09:45] <techouse> will a script in /etc/rc.local also run at reboot?
[09:45] <justdave> notwist: is that a server? synaptic's not finding me anything with that name
[09:45] <almoxarife> techouse: yes
[09:45] <notwist> cnf you're wasting other peoples time by simply looking for conflict, stop writing if you have nothing good to say
[09:45] <techouse> or do i have to copy it into /etc/rc0.d?
[09:45] <somsip> Gwennifer: can you paste the output of lspci | grep VGA
[09:46] <notwist> justdave: what name?
[09:46] <justdave> you said teamviewer
[09:46] <techouse> almoxarife: thanx!
[09:46] <notwist> justdave: http://www.teamviewer.com/
[09:46] <cnf> notwist: i'm wasting other peoples time, sure
[09:46] <cnf> but whatever
[09:47] <justdave> notwist: oh, that doesn't sound like the same thing at all
[09:47] <Gwennifer> somsip: wut's that pipe for? :x
[09:47] <notwist> justdave: teamviewer supports running a server that you can connect to and control the screen, identical to VNC
[09:47] <notwist> justdave: and its free for personal use
[09:47]  * cnf remembers he's in irc
[09:47] <justdave> notwist: does it run standalone without X?
[09:47] <notwist> justdave: dont know enough about it to answer that, sorry
[09:47] <justdave> it's a headless box, the last couple releases of Ubuntu, xorg won't start without a monitor attached
[09:47] <somsip> Gwennifer: so you don't have to post a page of output when one line will give more details of what Intel chipset it uses
[09:48] <justdave> so running a standalone vncserver was my only way to get a gui
[09:48] <Gwennifer> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[09:48] <somsip> Gwennifer: I can just give you the command, but there might be some quirks about your card which are worth checking first. What would you prefer?
[09:48] <justdave> and now I don't even have that
[09:49] <Gwennifer> Somsip: I'm fine with just forcing the resolution
[09:49] <notwist> justdave: why do you need GUI to begin with if its headless?
[09:49] <justdave> notwist: because it's a mythtv server and the admin tools for mythtv all require a gui
[09:50] <notwist> justdave: maybe the admin tools can be run from another computer?
[09:50] <justdave> yeah, they'll run over a forwarded X connection, it's just awkward
[09:50] <notwist> justdave: dont know enough about the way mythtv works to give you any good answer, sorry
[09:51] <somsip> Gwennifer: well, this page will tell you how to create an xorg.conf but searching on that video card does give a few results of people having problems, so you might have to dig a bit more http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there
[09:51] <justdave> I always hate getting "why would you bother doing that?" as an answer.  Been doing it for years and it always worked, and now it doesn't.  What other excuse do I need to want to have it working again? :)
[09:52]  * joey8 applauds justdave
[09:52] <kshakir> hi kshakir
[09:52] <kshakir> hi kshakir
[09:52] <kshakir> hi kshakir
[09:52] <FloodBot1> kshakir: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 i'm in  sources.list.d and there is no double document
[09:53] <justdave> maybe I can go back to x11vnc if there's some way to convince xorg to start without a monitor...
[09:53] <justdave> dummy display driver or something? :)
[09:54] <justdave> hmm, what do you know, there's an xserver-xorg-video-dummy package
[09:54] <doomgiver> how do i make a gtk+ 3.o program start with ubuntu? like i login and it starts to work?
[09:54] <somsip> Gwennifer: and and old one that refers to your video card http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1602665
[09:54] <user01> 23
 in my Software Sources / Other Software are some checked and some not.
[09:54] <notwist> justdave: well, sometimes the reason it stops working is because you've used a very wonky solution for years, doesn't make it a good solution just because it worked for X amount of time ;)
[09:54] <almoxarife> justdave: if its being used for mythtv then it must have a graphics driver
[09:55] <stonestone> ... why does bash tell me that it expects then with this
[09:55] <stonestone> if [ -z $1 ]; then
[09:55] <stonestone> 	echo You need to provide a git user.name;
[09:55] <stonestone> fi
[09:55] <FloodBot1> stonestone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:55] <justdave> almoxarife: yeah, it's just running tuners and doing encoding and stream serving
[09:55] <Gwennifer> somsip: wut do I do with that xorg.conf thing?
[09:56] <almoxarife> justdave: i have the same basic setup, mine is xbmc, monitor being connected does not keep xorg from running
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> stonestone  better ask in #bash
[09:56] <somsip> save it to /etc/X11/ but you have got the intel video driver installed haven't you?
 I reboot the comp 3 times now for to goes in good display resolution but the comp does't open, it was purple color,
[09:56] <almoxarife> justdave: i have the same basic setup, mine is xbmc, monitor(not)  being connected does not keep xorg from running
[09:57] <justdave> almoxarife: some magic in xorg.conf?
[09:57] <justdave> if I remove the xorg.conf and let it do its autodetect thing, it fails saying it can't determine the video setup
[09:57] <Jordan_U> stonestone: If you want something ideal, then you should learn proper .deb packaging and setup a ppa. It's even possible with launchpad to have packages automatically built whenever a new commit is pushed to the repository.
[09:57] <Jordan_U> stonestone: As for your bash question, I don't understand the question. Can you rephrase it?
[09:57] <kshakir> hi Jordan_U
[09:58] <justdave> actually, that was on 12.04, I haven't actually tried that again yet since upgrading to 12.10
[09:58] <kshakir> hi justdave
[09:58] <almoxarife> justdave: can you reset the 'server' then pastebin /var/log/syslog and Xorg.0.log ? lets see what is happening
[09:58] <SpaceRocket> does DeJavu backups hidden files in /home? like .ssh
[09:58] <Gwennifer> I think I do
[10:00] <hangdeadman> how do i remove getdeb repositories from ubuntu 12.04?
[10:00] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: via 'synaptic' is the simple way
[10:01] <hangdeadman> almoxarife: where are they located in synaptic? I couldn't find them under repositories/other software
[10:01] <somsip> Gwennifer: I believe it is xserver-xorg-video-intel but I'm not convinced. Try a 'dpkg --get-selections | grep intel'
[10:02] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: open the file /etc/apt/sources.list , is it shown?
[10:02] <justdave> hmmm, looks like it might actually be working now
[10:02] <justdave> I appear to have an X server running on :0 with lightdm in it
[10:02] <justdave> time to see if I can hook x11vnc into it
[10:02] <stonestone> Jordan_U i tested something as simple as http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1427231/
[10:03] <stonestone> Jordan_U outputs [: missing ]
[10:03] <hangdeadman> almoxarife: yes its there
[10:03] <Gwennifer> somsip: it is, uhm, can you tell me where I can find a gui or something similar to generate one?
[10:03] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Trying an install of 10.04.1 LTS regular .iso and just killed the ubiquity-slideshow .  . . so far it's looking good!
[10:03] <somsip> Gwennifer: To generate an xorg.conf?
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> stonestone  shoudnt there be a ; after the ] ?
[10:04] <Jordan_U> stonestone: Always quote variables, "$1".
[10:04] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: odd that synaptic did not show it, anyway, either remark out the lines with the 'get-deb' or delete the lines, you need to edit the file with gksu -admin privs
[10:04] <Gwennifer> somsip: yus :U I found a webpage talking about one with pretty much an identical monitor: http://grenage.com/xorg.html
[10:04] <stonestone> MonkeyDust not when newline (if I remember correctly) Jordan_U was a long time ago i did this :) thanks...
[10:04] <Hackbun> Will I get any real benifits from 64 bit ubuntu?
[10:05] <hangdeadman> almoxarife: it says disabled on update to natty but i get an error message about them when i apt-get update
[10:05] <stonestone> still the same errors tho
[10:05] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: what error?
[10:06] <somsip> Gwennifer: and you want to be able to create a new file based on that in /etc/x11/ using a text editor? try 'gksudo gedit'
[10:06] <hangdeadman> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/precise-getdeb/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net:http:
[10:06] <hangdeadman> almoxarife: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/precise-getdeb/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net:http:
[10:06] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: do you have 'pastebinit' installed?
[10:07] <hangdeadman> almoxarife: no should I?
[10:07] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: assume not, via terminal, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[10:08] <hangdeadman> almoxarife: done
[10:08] <Jordan_U> hangdeadman: Please pastebin your current script, how you are invoking it, and the complete output.
[10:08] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: via terminal, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[10:08] <somsip> Gwennifer: need to sign off
[10:09] <notwist> thesadmafioso: why are you installing 10.04 :P
[10:09] <Gwennifer> somsip: No, I want something to generate the base file for me because I've taken a lot of cold medicines and I don't have the capability to write one up right now
[10:09] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: via terminal, 'sudo apt-get update | pastebinit'
[10:09] <Gwennifer> Okay .-.
[10:11] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: the output should be a link, pls share it
[10:11] <notwist> wow, pastebinit is awesome
[10:11] <hangdeadman> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427243/
[10:11] <almoxarife> notwist: :) wow
[10:11]  * thesadmafioso had no idea about pastebinit until he just apt-cache show'ed it :P
[10:11] <almoxarife> notwist: should look at 'inxi' then
[10:12] <notwist> almoxarife: nice
[10:13] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: via terminal, 'pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:13] <RomeoAva> I have sources.list and sources.list.save in my apt. Is normal? To remove the last one?
[10:14] <Gwennifer> okay, I'm just going to go to bed
[10:14] <hangdeadman> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427254/
[10:14] <notwist> RomeoAva: .save is probably a backup, its not being used, no use in deleting any of them
[10:16] <RomeoAva> in sources.list.save I found two that looks duplicates: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner
[10:16] <RomeoAva> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner
[10:17] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: via terminal 'ls -R /etc/apt/ | pastebinit'
[10:17] <hangdeadman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427261/
[10:18] <hangdeadman> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427261/
[10:18] <notwist> RomeoAva: so? what is your problem?
[10:18] <notwist> RomeoAva: also they are not duplicates, one starts with deb and the other with deb-src
[10:19] <RomeoAva> notwist W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)
[10:19] <RomeoAva> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[10:20] <notwist> RomeoAva: so comment one of them out and see if the warning message disappears. I dont think it will
[10:22] <RomeoAva> notwist I dont understand what to do
[10:22] <DrManhattan> what the heck ever happened to puppy linux?
[10:22] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: i was expecting to see this 'archive.getdeb.net' in sources.list, not there or i am blind, or find it here, /etc/apt/sources.list.d, so again, i am blind or its not there either
[10:23] <RomeoAva> notwist you sad that to let the save one?
[10:23] <RomeoAva> were to go, what to look after?
[10:25] <doomgiver> in gtk+ 3.0, which widget is used for doing multiple field text entry?
[10:25] <almoxarife> hangdeadman: unless one of the lists shown in /etc/apt/sources.list.d has 'archive.getdeb.net' within it, and that i cant tell
[10:27] <RomeoAva> what to delete from sources.list?
[10:29] <thesadmafioso> I just installed 10.04 LTS and it assigned a wireless card as "pan0" and is saying it's ethernet . . . how can I tell it that it's wireless??
[10:29] <doomgiver> Jordan_U: it works!!!
[10:30] <doomgiver> notwist: it works!!! setting the device mbr as bootsect worked! tytyty!!
[10:31] <doomgiver> brb
[10:31] <RomeoAva> Please, I wait some one to help me with this bug. I tray to use and promote Ubuntu but is not working yet. I expect a few years already.
[10:32] <john__> doomgiver: congrats. that effi thing is a bit tricky
[10:33] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: run 'sudo apt-get update' in terminal again
[10:33] <john__> RomeoAva, What exactly is your problem?
[10:33] <BullDog> hello...i m reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[10:33] <RomeoAva> it assigned a wireless card as "pa
[10:34] <RomeoAva> sorry
[10:34] <thesadmafioso> RomeoAva: I am having the same problem.
[10:34] <RomeoAva> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)
[10:34] <RomeoAva> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[10:34] <BullDog> Maildir
[10:34] <BullDog> newsletter@smarth:~$ cd Maildir/new
[10:34] <BullDog> -su: cd: Maildir/new: Not a directory
[10:34] <BullDog> why i get this error when i check mailbox
[10:35] <thesadmafioso> Don't know why it would assign the wireless card as "pan0"
[10:35] <RomeoAva> I open the etc/apt/sources.list and I don't know what to do
[10:35] <john__> RomeoAva, Have youtried 0412 install?
[10:35] <john__> RomeoAva, It's the long term distribution
[10:36] <RomeoAva> is 12.04
[10:36] <RomeoAva> sorry
[10:36] <RomeoAva> 12.10
[10:36] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: please pastebin sources.list or install 'pastebinit'
[10:37] <BullDog> hello..im reading this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto and i get error when i want to check newsletter@smarth:~$ ls
[10:37] <BullDog> Maildir
[10:37] <BullDog> newsletter@smarth:~$ cd Maildir/new
[10:37] <BullDog> -su: cd: Maildir/new: Not a directory
[10:37] <john__> RomeoAva, I recomend the 0412 because it is long term. The other you would need to renew in 6 months
[10:37] <BullDog> and when i use netcat port 25 nothing happens
[10:37] <john__> Anyhow that would solve that duplicate problem
[10:38] <john__> and you can still upgrade f you want to
[10:39] <RomeoAva> john__ you right but for me doese't work the camera, the scanner and some others
[10:39] <RomeoAva> the 12.10 runs wery good until a few days after a regular update
[10:39] <john__> It doesn't work for bluray
[10:40] <never2far> hello... is there any way to find from ssh ...last update time
[10:40] <thesadmafioso> RomeoAva: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1099828
 I can't pastebin sources.list I need to print screen it
[10:42] <RomeoAva> http://pastebin.com/jMz6BBaa
[10:42] <thesadmafioso> RomeoAva: use " cat /etc/apt/sources.list > sources.list " Then open that file in a text editor and paste to pastebin.
[10:45] <RomeoAva> when I click source.list the Software Sourse window is opening, not a Gedit
[10:45] <BullDog> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427290/
[10:45] <BullDog> pls help http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427290/
[10:45] <RomeoAva> in Gedit onli source.list.save is opening
[10:46] <BullDog> someone can help me?
[10:47] <arquebus> with what?
[10:48] <RomeoAva> I open it in a Gedit the source.list here http://pastebin.com/ufKcePFf
[10:49] <BullDog> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427290/
[10:50] <chemmkl> join /sweden
[10:50] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: the two do not match
[10:51] <RomeoAva> what to do?
[10:51] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: did you install 'pastebinit'?
[10:51] <RomeoAva> yes
[10:53] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: open a terminal, type the following txt:        pastebinit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:53] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: share the link
[10:53] <RomeoAva> ok
[10:53] <RomeoAva> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427317/
[10:54] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: do you have the same file open for editing?
[10:54] <hangdeadman> almoxarife: thanks anyways for the help
[10:55] <RomeoAva> yes
[10:56] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: and you have made changes to the file?
[10:56] <RomeoAva> no
[10:56] <RomeoAva> i can close it without save it
[10:57] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: via terminal, 'sudo apt-get update | pastebinit'
[10:58] <RomeoAva> done
[10:58] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: the link?
[10:58] <RomeoAva> there is no link
[10:59] <RomeoAva> it's a long list
[10:59] <almoxarife> copy paste the command line here
[10:59] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: just the command line
[10:59] <RomeoAva> ?
[11:00] <RomeoAva> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427321/
[11:01] <ubuntu487> hi - how do i make ubuntu use my dedicated gpu instead of my integrated?
[11:02] <ubuntu487> hi - how do i make ubuntu use my dedicated gpu instead of my integrated? http://pastebin.com/CgyHMGyU ubuntu says nvidia drivers are installed but not activated
[11:02] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: via terminal, everything after here                                 sudo apt-get update | pastebinit                            <--- everything after the word 'here' and before the '<'
[11:03] <almoxarife> ubuntu487: try to bypass the integrated via bios
[11:05] <mynameisthom> using tar to compress files thru CLI sith following syntax tar -czvf backup.tgz -C /var/www/sites/file . gimme backup.tgz. But when I open the file, it contain . (dot) folder that is contain the files. What if I just wanna have the files w/o the . folder?? Or how could I rename . -> files?
[11:05] <Ayrus> Hi, which editor in ubuntu open the function reference which click on the function, I mean, it should open the file where it is defined!
[11:05] <RomeoAva> ?
[11:06] <ubuntu487> almoxarife: yeah already looked, there is no such option
[11:06] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: your last paste is not complete or did not error out, which is it?
[11:06] <ubuntu487> I have a laptop with hybrid gfx (nvidia optimus) but ubuntu is using the integrated instead of the dedicated (gtx 660m). i have nvidia drivers installed but they are not in use - http://pastebin.com/CgyHMGyU - what do ?
[11:07] <RomeoAva> ok
[11:07] <ubuntu487> already looked on the uh,, vgaswitcheroo thing, thats a no go
[11:07] <RomeoAva> the same eror
[11:07] <RomeoAva> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)
[11:07] <RomeoAva> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[11:07] <RomeoAva> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:07] <RomeoAva> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427321/
[11:08] <never2far> hello... is there any way to find from ssh ...last update time
[11:08] <emx> there is a nice feature in the distribution i used before ubuntu. when you write the first part of a command and hit PAGE-UP the last command beginning with the typed one shows up. another hit on PAGE-UP shows the second last and so forth. how do i activate that feature?
[11:11] <Larissa85> hi.
[11:12] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: see if this guide helps, http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[11:12] <RomeoAva> it is so bad?
[11:12] <RomeoAva> :)
[11:13] <theangryamoeba> I'm running 12.10 and I'm having an odd networking issue. Whenever my wifi drops I get a connection box asking for the password for my network and I need to click connect again. The password is in the password box every time this happens, and I have it set to automatically connect. I do no understand why I keep getting prompted. I must get this dialog box 20-30 times a day.
[11:13] <Bill> why i get this error? i want to set Maildir
[11:13] <Bill>  cd Maildir
[11:13] <Bill> -su: cd: Maildir: Not a directory
[11:14] <Fedot> how to resolve this ? i want to set Maildir i set it but when i acces it i get
[11:14] <Fedot> root@smarth:~# su - newsletter
[11:14] <Fedot> newsletter@smarth:~$ cd Maildir
[11:14] <Fedot> -su: cd: Maildir: Not a directory
[11:14] <Fedot> newsletter@smarth:~$ ls
[11:14] <Fedot> Maildir
[11:15] <FloodBot1> Fedot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:15] <llutz> Fedot: "Maildir: Not a directory" <-  "ls -l Maildir"
[11:15] <jrib> emx: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spec/EnhancedBash perhaps (it seems like your /etc/inputrc should already contain those binds for history-search-backward and history-search-forward)
[11:15] <RomeoAva> almoxarife looks good but hou to do that" Close the Software Sources and try updating your source.list."
[11:15] <Fedot> ls: cannot access -: No such file or directory
[11:15] <Fedot> ls: cannot access l: No such file or directory
[11:16] <Fedot> done done
[11:16] <Fedot> -rwxrwxrwx 1 newsletter newsletter 0 2012-12-12 12:04 Maildir
[11:16] <myhero> N
[11:16] <jrib> Fedot: it's a file, not a directory...
[11:16] <llutz> Fedot: its ia file
[11:16] <RomeoAva> almoxarife the update of source.list
[11:16] <llutz> Fedot: rm Maildir && mkdir Maildir
[11:16] <Fedot> i am here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[11:16] <Fedot> i did everything
[11:17] <Fedot> su - fmaster
[11:17] <Fedot> cd Maildir/new
[11:17] <Fedot> ls
[11:17] <Fedot> was the insctructions
[11:17] <jrib> Fedot: stop pasting in the channel.
[11:17] <Fedot> sorry
[11:17] <almoxarife> Fedot: your ip has been identified as a mail spammer, imagine that!
[11:17] <Fedot> i send a mail to hotmail and yahoo
[11:17] <Fedot> for test
[11:17] <almoxarife> Fedot: not enough servers up?
[11:18] <Fedot> i have just 1 server
[11:18] <RomeoAva> just sudo apt-get update will solve the problem?
[11:19] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: no!, did that already, did you look at the link? does your client (the gui version) look similar? do you have two entries like it shows on the link?
[11:19] <Fedot> almoxarife, how you check the ip?
[11:19] <jrib> emx: actually, on closer inspection I see that the lines I referred to in /etc/inputrc are commented by default.  So uncomment them to make them available to all users, or just add them to your own ~/.inputrc
[11:20] <almoxarife> Fedot: its public knowledge
[11:21] <RomeoAva> yes, looks the same
[11:21] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: then follow the instructions shown on the link
[11:22] <emx> jrib, great, thanks a lot!
[11:22] <RomeoAva> ok
[11:23] <RomeoAva> but how to update the list?
[11:23] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: what list? have you corrected the issue via the recommendation shown on the link?
[11:24] <RomeoAva> in final he sad that: Now you can update your source.list without any error.
[11:24] <RomeoAva> and i dont know hou to do it?
[11:24] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: via terminal or gui? do you use 'synaptic'?
[11:24] <myhero> !register | myhero
[11:25] <RomeoAva> terminal
[11:25] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: sudo apt-get update
[11:25] <RomeoAva> yes, that is what I was thinking
[11:25] <RomeoAva> thank you very much
[11:25] <RomeoAva> I need to go now
[11:25] <myhero> anyway of connecting to channels which require registered nicks ?
[11:25] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: only if it worked
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> myhero  register your nick
[11:26] <myhero> MonkeyDust: i don't want to...is there any other way ? registraton only increases digital footprint !
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> myhero  you can ask the people at freenode to cloak your registred nick
[11:27] <KSalem> hey there I need help in command line any one here ?
[11:27] <myhero> MonkeyDust: then registration is no problem! how much time it usually takes ?
[11:28] <almoxarife> so all these 'dup' sources.list problems are due to the client having two entries for the same repo
[11:28] <KSalem> I need to delete alot of files in one directory but without deleting any dir also be noted the the files are alooooot maybe more than 1K file
[11:29] <almoxarife> KSalem: is there any pattern to the files?
[11:29] <KSalem> almoxarife .mp3
[11:29] <almoxarife> KSalem: all of them? you want to go?
[11:30] <KSalem> almoxarife yup
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> myhero  better ask in #freenode
[11:30] <myhero> MonkeyDust: lol u were joking :)
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> myhero  how so?
[11:31] <almoxarife> KSalem: whats wrong with rm *.mp3?
[11:31] <KSalem> almoxarife i tried the following command "find -l -name *mp3 | xargs rm" but it gave me error "rm: missing operand"
[11:31] <myhero> MonkeyDust: i doubt if cloaking is allowed !
[11:31] <justdave> so x11vnc seems to be mostly working, except that mouse clicks are taking multiple minutes to get fed to the applications.  Seems to be something between the window manager and the apps though?  I can drag windows around on the screen in real time and it works, just clicking things inside the windows has insane delays...
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> !cloak > myhero
[11:32] <theangryamoeba> Why does something major break with each release of ubuntu?
[11:32] <wdp_> KSalem, find -name "*.mp3" -exec rm '{}' \;
[11:32] <myhero> MonkeyDust: is virtualizing win7 in ubuntu os a good idea ?
[11:32] <theangryamoeba> its obnoxious.
[11:32] <wdp_> KSalem, man find -> go to exec
[11:32] <jrib> theangryamoeba: do you have an actual support question?  An issue in particular that you are having an issue with?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> myhero   what do you mean by 'a good idea'?
[11:34] <myhero> MonkeyDust: performance. win7 consumes lots of resources.
[11:35] <almoxarife> i have a dir with oodles of mp3's with file extension .mp3, i am in that dir, i execute rm *.mp3 , am i wrong in assuming every .mp3 goes to mp3 heaven?
[11:35] <KSalem> almoxarife yea it suppose to work
[11:35] <jrib> almoxarife: you are not wrong assuming you have permission
[11:35] <KSalem> almoxarife but in my dir about more than 1K file
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> myhero  havent tried it, i'm no help
[11:35] <almoxarife> jrib: yes
[11:36] <KSalem> almoxarife it can't handle it
[11:36] <almoxarife> KSalem: so?
[11:36] <jrib> KSalem: so what happened when you tried "rm *.mp3"?
[11:36] <KSalem> -bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[11:36] <KSalem> almoxarife -bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
[11:36] <jrib> KSalem: what ubuntu version is this/
[11:36] <wdp_> KSalem, tried the line i gave you?
[11:37] <KSalem> wdp_ am trying it right now loading
[11:37] <jrib> KSalem: also, using find will delete recursively, make sure that's what you want
[11:37] <myhero> KSalem: it doesn't matters how much file you have in a single directory but the files should be having extension .mp3
[11:38] <jatin> hi
[11:38] <wdp_> KSalem, there's another way to do that, too. using while. i.e. while read -r; do rm "$REPLY"; done < <(find -type f -name "*.mp3")
[11:38] <wdp_> KSalem, or somethin like that. use "echo" first instead of rm, to see if it does what you want it to do.
[11:39] <KSalem> wdp_ ok , thanks guys am trying
[11:39] <Jordan_U> wdp_: KSalem: Using read and a while loop makes very little sense when you have -exec with find, especially as find with -exec will handle any filename properly, where read will not.
[11:39] <dr_willis> xargsi belive is commonly used when the 'argument list is too long' also.
[11:39] <dr_willis> xargs  ;)
[11:40] <wdp_> Jordan_U, i remember that the while loop turned out to be faster.
[11:40] <wdp_> Jordan_U, in his/her case it shouldn't matter, though, right.
[11:40] <younder> in BASH or DASH?
[11:40]  * wdp_ is only using bash
[11:41] <almoxarife> so what is the limit to a rm *.foo?
[11:42] <younder> are you aware that #!/bin/sh gives DASH?
[11:43] <dr_willis> the *.foo is expanded and can become longer  then the max legenth of a command line. but i forget what the limit is. ;)
[11:43] <dr_willis> I bet its somthing like 512, or 1024 characters
[11:44] <jrib> dr_willis: MAX_ARG_PAGES in kernel.  But I thought there were some changes done to that recently...
[11:44] <dr_willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/argument-list-too-long-error-solution/
[11:45] <dr_willis> getconf ARG_MAX
[11:45] <bhairav> hello
[11:45] <dr_willis> 2097152
[11:45] <wdp_> 2097152
[11:45] <wdp_> :D
[11:45] <dr_willis> ;P
[11:45] <wdp_> thats characters right? or arguments as in words?
[11:45] <dr_willis> thats rather long. ;) wonder if its in K or bytes.. or characters.. ;P
[11:45] <wdp_> well. let's try :>
[11:46] <bhairav> ok, I am new here and I don't know the protocol so do I just start talking with no handshakes?
[11:46] <dr_willis> looking like its 'bytes'
[11:46] <jrib> bhairav: yep, just ask
[11:46] <invariant> How do I configure Thunderbird 17 in precise such that it can open urls by clicking on it?
[11:46] <bhairav> ok.. great. I have a DellLatitude 820 and Ubuntu 12.04. There is a high pitched sound coming from within the chassis
[11:47] <thesadmafioso> notwist: FYI I successfully installed 12.04.1 LTS on my friends' Samsung 64-bit AMD system by "apt-get removing" the ubiquity-slideshow and maintaining a constant wireless connection.
[11:47] <DrGrov> Ah, much much much better. Now I finally see something in irssi :)
[11:47] <milad> hi all
[11:47] <almoxarife> All shell have / has a limit for the command line length. UNIX / Linux / BSD system has a limit on how many bytes can be used for the command line argument and environment variables.
[11:47] <almoxarife> bytes
[11:47] <bhairav> So, jrib, any ideas how I can stop that?
[11:47] <thesadmafioso> almoxarife: What's the limit for bash? :P
[11:47] <jrib> bhairav: not really.  Are you sure it's not the fan?
[11:48] <almoxarife> bhairav: HD bearings are tossing cookies?
[11:48] <dr_willis> thesadmafioso:  getconf ARG_MAX
[11:48] <bhairav> jrib: It's like a car horn turned way down in the background with a glue tape to keep it in place..
[11:48] <dr_willis> 2097152 bytes it seems
[11:48] <John_Maclain> Good morning all
[11:49] <thesadmafioso> dr_willis: Ah, neat. Another trick to add to the Linux bag. ;)
[11:49] <dr_willis> thesadmafioso:  no idea why yu would need that trick . :) theres some neat examples on that page however
[11:49] <John_Maclain> I have a "general" query i'm hoping someone could help with. I'm in the process of playing with a linkstation NAS. I have root, and need to install php5-cli.
[11:49] <bhairav> jrib: I tried bluetooth radio,removing the usb devices, disappears when, there is a "bin" LED flickering ( a READ)?
[11:50] <thesadmafioso> dr_willis: You'll be happy to know I planned on geeking out and reading it then!
[11:50] <wdp_> dr_willis, for i in $(seq 1 2097152); do a="$a $i"; done   <- should fail, then, i guess.
[11:50] <younder> Set up snort and BASE yesterday
[11:50] <jrib> it's not really a shell limit, it's at the kernel level
[11:51] <younder> recomended if you have an old spar machine. Just buy another network card reintall ubuntu and get to work
[11:51] <jrib> dr_willis: ah I found it! http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=b6a2fea39318e43fee84fa7b0b90d68bed92d2ba
[11:52] <younder> You need to set the network manager network pane network to share with other computers  . had a lot of trouble with that as the documentation is sadly lacking. NM rocks though!
[11:53] <bhairav> almoxarife: hi, i did not see your comment.. sorry..i am not even sure what you meant. but i don't think it has anything to with the hard disk but i guess i am not sure.. :)
[11:53] <thesadmafioso> Aww! So, I just finished an install of 12.04.1 LTS and it said everything was great. Now I reboot and get "error: no such partition. grub rescue>" and a blinking cursor
[11:53] <wdp_> KSalem, and? does it work?
[11:53] <younder> Also NFS for RMI and privoxy
[11:54] <younder> samba if for windows, NFS is for Unix networks
[11:55] <John_Maclain> anyone?
[11:55] <almoxarife> bhairav: that kind of whine is usually associated with 'bearings' that are nears deaths door, the next step i would expect would be for the bearing to freeze, question now is, which one is it
[11:56] <younder> John_Maclain, sudo apt-get install php5
[11:56] <younder> John_Maclain, ctrl-alt-t to bring up terminal
[11:56] <jrib> KSalem: so I'm curious what the output of "uname -r" is for you if you don't mind
[11:57] <bhairav> almoxarife: is there a way to find out? i am not very keen on opening and poking around actually. this old geyser might just flatten and pretend to be dead for all i know.
[11:57] <John_Maclain> I dont think it's an ubunto installation. I;ve had to install IPKG
[11:57] <younder> There is no php client. it is all server based so you also need apache 2
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> John_Maclain  if it's not ubuntu, this may not be the right channel for you
[11:58] <bhairav> almoxarife: this wasn't a problem actually with win7
[11:58] <John_Maclain> MonkeyDust I know, i was hopeful :-)
[11:58] <younder> I use postgresql but the popular choice seems to be mysql
[11:58] <younder> install that as well
[11:58] <almoxarife> bhairav: ubuntu killed kenny?
[11:59] <younder> and libphp-mysql
[11:59] <bhairav> almoxarife: semi-killed the pangolin
[11:59] <younder> dead simple really compared to doing it on a windws system anyhow
[11:59] <thesadmafioso> Umm...how would I point to where the bootloader is housed from the grub rescue >   ???
[12:00] <bhairav> almoxarife: thanks anyways. later.
[12:00] <almoxarife> bhairav: ok, does 'top' show unusually high cpu usage for some process?
[12:00] <younder> What happened to LAMP install?  anyoone know..?
[12:01] <bhairav> almoxarife: there is no process runnning now..
[12:01] <iceroot> younder: what sould happened to lamp?
[12:01] <jrib> younder: nothing?
[12:01] <almoxarife> bhairav: ok
[12:01] <younder> iceroot, I don't find it as a install optin anymore
[12:01] <almoxarife> !lamp
[12:01] <iceroot> younder: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[12:01] <Guest88028> hi, does anyone know how to install mate (window manager?)
[12:01] <younder> I KNOW what lamp is
[12:02] <sammmy> I have a weird ubuntu setup. I have gnome 3 and unity installed as two shells I can choose, but when I choose unity, I get parts of gnome 3 in the mix.
[12:02] <jrib> younder: the link explains how to install it.
[12:02] <younder> iceroot, you forgot libphp-mysql
[12:02] <iceroot> younder: no
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> sammmy  unity is a shell for gnome3
[12:02] <iceroot> younder: that is a dependency from the 3 packages i named
[12:02] <iceroot> younder: and if not, just install additional stuff you want
[12:02] <younder> iceroot, also mysql-client is good
[12:03] <sammmy> MonkeyDust: I thought a shell was like a GUI?
[12:03] <iceroot> younder: then feel free to install it
[12:03] <larry_> hi, does anyone know how to install mate (window manager?)
[12:03] <younder> Look I just set up servers on 2 machines just this week
[12:03] <jrib> younder: I'm not sure we know what your question actually is.  Can you ask it?
[12:04] <thesadmafioso> How can I tell grub rescue where the bootloader is?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> sammmy  i guess you mean a desktop environment
[12:04] <younder> What happened to LAMP install?  anyone know..?
[12:05] <iceroot> younder: what sould happened to lamp?
[12:05] <jrib> younder: nothing happened to it.  See the link ubottu provided you with.
[12:05] <iceroot> younder: as i asked already
[12:05] <iceroot> younder: just install the packages you want i showed you an example for the common lamp setup
[12:05] <younder> Ie it used to be an option that installed all of this. And it is not there anymore. So now I install the tools seperately.
[12:05] <iceroot> younder: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[12:05] <younder> duh
[12:06] <jrib> younder: you can install it with tasksel.  The link ubottu gave you explains this
[12:06] <almoxarife> younder: i am guessing the question is rhetorical
[12:06] <younder> aah. now that makes sense
[12:06] <younder> more or less retorical as both my websites are working
[12:06] <almoxarife> seems not
[12:06] <jrib> younder: you can also avoid tasksel and just use apt-get: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[12:07] <BrixSat> hello how do i get my current setup monitor and generate a xorg.conf so i can adjust some things?
[12:07] <DrGrov> What MPlayer flavor is the correct for 12.04? I see SMPlayer, MPlayer and so forth. Does the GUI matter much when using Unity? Do I understand it right that the best option is to go with a GTK+ interface instead of a QT interface when using Unity?
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> !xorgconf | BrixSat start here
[12:07] <younder> jrib, my system doesn't play along with that one
[12:07] <almoxarife> DrGrov: you dont want qt with unity
[12:07] <jrib> younder: I don't know what it means for a system to play along
[12:08] <younder> jrib, I'm using 0412 not 1012
[12:08] <jrib> younder: now I'm even more confused
[12:08] <BrixSat> MonkeyDust:  is the file is depecrated what is the new  usage? (if learning better learn the new thing)
[12:09] <younder> jrib, It doesn' recognise sudo apt-get install lamp-server
[12:09] <jrib> younder: well that's not what I said for you to do :)  You forgot the caret
[12:09] <iceroot> younder: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> BrixSat  guess you find more information in the ubottu links, than what i could tell you
[12:09] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ah, now I do not see that is this your nickname. I am missing a letter or two :D So, no QT for Unity then. Good to have that sorted. It was probably that which made my 10.04 system sluggish from time to time when I had a bit of a mix between GTK+ and QT apps when using both GNOME and KDE.
[12:10] <DrGrov> Brb
[12:10] <DrGrov> Brb
[12:10] <younder> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:10] <younder> let's leave it at that
[12:10] <sammmy> what's with these funky scrollbars, I never got it...
[12:11] <iceroot> jrib: could you explain what foobar^ does?
[12:11] <almoxarife> dr_willis: nothing wrong with a hybrid, if that is the intent, i do like some gnome apps, yet run KDE
[12:11] <jrib> iceroot: it lets you install tasks (like through tasksel) but using apt-get .  I don't even know if it's documented somewhere
[12:11] <younder> tasksel if NOT recomended as it makes things difficulet if you choose to remove things
[12:11] <almoxarife> DrGrov: nothing wrong with a hybrid, if that is the intent, i do like some gnome apps, yet run KDE
[12:12] <iceroot> jrib: but the tasks are no common-metapackages i guess
[12:12] <BrixSat> ok thks
[12:12] <iceroot> younder: could you just use "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server"?
[12:12] <jrib> iceroot: right, they're not metapackages. You can see how they're difened in /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc
[12:12] <iceroot> jrib: thank you
[12:12] <DrGrov> almoxarife: This is probably then good since I might prefer a few KDE apps in favor of the Gnome equivalents.
[12:13] <almoxarife> DrGrov: i dont know how well kde apps will look in gtk, i do the reverse, gtk in kde
[12:14] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Okay, then I will probably just keep to GTK apps for Unity completely. You are not by any chance running irssi? :)
[12:14] <younder> loved mint but was miffed as package depependency's started to break. Eventually went back to standard ubuntu 0412 for stability
[12:14] <almoxarife> DrGrov: on kde? that would be a sin
[12:15] <jrib> younder: it's confusing to call it 0412 instead of "12.04" which is what everyone else uses
[12:15] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Why is that? Irssi is pure love ;-) No, the reason I asked is that I am not finding any suitable theme that does not leave out a letter of your nickname and others as well LOL
[12:15] <DrGrov> Feels funny to write to someone when there is quite many long nicknamed persons around :D
[12:16] <younder> jrib sorry
[12:16] <solancer> hey guys
[12:16] <solancer> any c++ developers in the house ?
[12:16] <younder> me
[12:16] <solancer> cool
[12:16] <solancer> https://launchpad.net/~ikarosdev/+archive/unity-revamped
[12:16] <DrGrov> almoxarife: But nevermind, that was only a merely a minor thought I had :) Sorry for disturbing with such an unimportant matter.
[12:17] <g0onsh1p> YO!
[12:17] <solancer> can you hack unity https://launchpad.net/~ikarosdev/+archive/unity-revamped
[12:18] <enriq> hi. I have 10.04 installed in split partitions  for "/", "/boot",  "/home" and "/opt". Now I have a spare partition where I want to install 12.04, can I install from my running 10.04?
[12:18] <solancer> yep you can
[12:18] <solancer> jus do a distribution upgrade
[12:18] <dr_willis> you mean boot 10.04 and install 12.04 to that other partion?
[12:18] <almoxarife> DrGrov: i cant imagine what the cli irc client acts like, i am too deep in kde to cli, i found cli-companion(a very nice gui) cause cli made me get the chills
[12:18] <dr_willis> whilw running 10.04?
[12:19] <enriq> solancer, it does not work, there are some "extra" stuff
[12:19] <enriq> dr_willis, yep
[12:19] <dr_willis> enriq:  its doable.. but i bet it would be much faster to just boot a live-usb
[12:19] <dr_willis> its not going to be trivial ;P
[12:19] <DrGrov> almoxarife: But now it seems to be good with this theme since I clearly see what you are writing with a complete nickname finally :)
[12:19] <solancer> enriq, you mean the PPA ?
[12:20] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ah, you are knee deep in KDE haha :) What IRC client are you using? Konversation?
[12:20] <almoxarife> DrGrov: yes
[12:20] <enriq> solancer, I have some low latency kernel and some other things that are beyond 10.04
[12:20] <ikonia> DrGrov: how did you get on with your video ?
[12:20] <DrGrov> almoxarife: I could almost predict that since that is probably one of the most common ones in KDE. Probably one of the only ones or?
[12:20] <solancer> enriq: oh ok
[12:21] <DrGrov> ikonia: Hi there. Nice of you to ask. I managed to get on pretty well I have to admit. Now I am figuring out which MPlayer frontend to start using. I found that VLC is very good and fully functional but I miss MPlayer too much to keep using VLC.
[12:21] <enriq> dr_willis, how hard can it be, harder than going to buy a replacement for my burned out usb stick? :)
[12:21] <almoxarife> DrGrov: there are some others, pidgin, telepathy i think, quassel, probably more
[12:22] <younder> solancer, I am not joining that project just to fix you problems, no
[12:22] <dr_willis> enriq:  yes.. and it may not work properly. You dont hear much about 'debootstrap' these days
[12:22] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ah, Pidgin as well. I always just had Pidgin for IM of other kind. But I am sure Pidgin is very functional as well since multi-functional account system is really nice.
[12:22] <almoxarife> DrGrov: Kmplayer is a nice front end
[12:22] <solancer> younder: no no its not jus me we a have a whole bunch of users who want this PPA updated
[12:22] <ikonia> DrGrov: but the performance was acceptable /
[12:23] <ikonia> DrGrov: that was your main concern
[12:23] <DrGrov> almoxarife: But that is QT then :/ Is SMplayer anything good or should I just take the regular MPlayer-gui package from the repos and some additional themes
[12:23] <dr_willis> im not even sure if the debootstrap method works any more enriq
[12:23] <almoxarife> DrGrov: pidgin has alot of options,
[12:23] <solancer> younder, including Andrew from webupd8.org
[12:23] <almoxarife> DrGrov: gnome-mplayer?
[12:24] <baanaan`on> Guys, i got a question. All my users got a primary group.  when i create a file with one of the users all users in the primary group also write and read that file. But i created 2 directory's where users from the same subgroup can create files and read files but i want to exclude the primary group from those folders how can i do accomplish this ?
[12:25] <DrGrov> ikonia: Yes, the performance was acceptable of course. I just did not research any further into VLC + VDPAU yet since it worked out well. And I am not too concerned now to find out either. But I will use MPlayer as a comparison to VLC to monitor the CPU usage just as a comparison.
[12:26] <DrGrov> almoxarife: Ah yes, gnome-mplayer I had on 10.04. That was simple enough and not too much menus around. SMplayer was perhaps a bit of a mess with too much options which worked well but did not suit my needs.
[12:26] <jrib> baanaan`on: have you tried using Access Control Lists?
[12:26] <dr_willis> DrGrov:  i recall smplayer having a few neat features not in gnome-mplayer... but i cant remember what they were ;)
[12:27] <antivirushater> What is recommended, partitioning the hard drive and installing Ubuntu on it or WUBI?
[12:27] <dr_willis> DrGrov:  I think it had a remember last position feature i was using a lot for some time
[12:27] <dr_willis> antivirushater:  run away from wubi whenever you can... dont even think about wubi... ;P
[12:27] <baanaan`on> jrib: not yet lemme see
[12:27] <antivirushater> dr_willis: lol, ok.
[12:27] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Hi there :) No worries, I tend to forget as well quite many things. That is why I keep configuring 12.04 still of today where as most people would have done it already ages ago LOL
[12:28] <jrib> baanaan`on: you'll have to add the "acl" mount option to your partition.  Then see the man pages for setfacl and getfacl
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> antivirushater  wubi means 'will ultimatly be inefficient'
[12:28] <younder> solancer, you can contact me on jpthing@online.no and I will look at it no promises.
[12:28] <antivirushater> MonkeyDust: lol
[12:28] <jrib> younder: note this channel is publicly logged, it's probably not a great idea to put an e-mail address here
[12:28] <younder> rotfl my my feeling exactl
[12:29] <thesadmafioso> Wubi means "Completely useless"
[12:29] <ironhalik> Hmm, I've got a problem. I'm trying to connect a third display, and can only make the third one be in cloning mode
[12:29] <younder> jrib too late
[12:29] <solancer> younder, chill bro I'm jus asking thats all
[12:29] <younder> jrib yes I should probaly have done a private session
[12:29] <baanaan`on> jrib:  thanks for the help. <3
[12:29] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Ah, now I know what you mean with the last position. It was enabled by default in SMplayer and I did not at all appreciate it at the time. I could perhaps just be less negative of course about features and such things. I am perhaps thinking too much about all kind of features that I get lost somehow LOL
[12:30] <jrib> baanaan`on: does it work?  I'm actually not sure how having groupA access and denying groupB access will work exactly
[12:30] <younder> still in the flow of data will anyone ntice...
[12:30] <solancer> younder, besides I need someone who can program on Unity library
[12:30] <dr_willis> DrGrov:  i often could nly watch a video like 10 min at a time.. ;)
[12:30] <DrGrov> ikonia: Do you have any preferred choice of MPlayer?
[12:30] <DrGrov> dr_willis: Ah, you had that kind of problem. That is then really good as a feature to have the "last position" thingie.
[12:30] <younder> solancer, I am making a language I call Formula for parallel programming
[12:31] <younder> solancer, I am not one of the ubuntu developers per se
[12:31] <jrib> younder, solancer: let's try to keep the discussion related to support in #ubuntu.  Join us in #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussions
[12:31] <solancer> younder, wow sorry I assumed you were jus another ubuntu geek...
[12:32] <younder> jrib fine
[12:32] <dr_willis> night all.
[12:32] <solancer> jrib, bro its about Unity what part of Ubuntu is unity not a part of ?
[12:32] <jrib> solancer: this channel is for ubuntu *support*
[12:33] <solancer> jrib, ya so I need support for unity
[12:33] <jrib> solancer: what's your support question?
[12:33] <solancer> jrib, Unity is buggy and I need someone who can fix it
[12:33] <fre> hello to everyone
[12:34] <thesadmafioso> My new install thinks the bootloader for the OS is on the USB stick, is that something I could fix easily with a package like "Boot Repair"?
[12:34] <solancer> jrib, Dodge windows feature
[12:34] <fre> I want to be consulted
[12:34] <fre> I am now desperate
[12:34] <jrib> solancer: that's not what this channel is for.  Feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:34] <solancer> jrib, I doubt you would be able to help me.. its a c++ thing
[12:34] <fre> how many times i tried to install Ubuntu on my PC
[12:34] <fre> but that seems unbelievably difficult
[12:35] <fre> could someone guide me through the process
[12:35] <solancer> jrib, ok wiseguy off to offtopic
[12:35] <diverdude> How do i get a commandline interface to pastebin? (pastebinit dows not work)
[12:35] <notwist> thesadmafioso: it's because it's actually on the usb stick, I had the exact same problem
[12:35] <jrib> diverdude: you should say in what way pastebinit does not work
[12:36] <notwist> thesadmafioso: what you need to do is 1) install again 2) this time, remove USB stick before writing GRUB 3) everybody happy
[12:36] <fre> could someone give me a link on instailling 12.10 alongside w8
[12:36] <notwist> thesadmafioso: it will install GRUB on the USB stick if its still inside during setup sometimes. Its stupid but it happens
[12:36] <jrib> fre: you should say what exactly happened when you tried to install (and how you tried).  Don't use the enter key as punctuation though, please
[12:36] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Hmm, do you think I'm better of doing that or trying to use a package like Boot Repair?
[12:37] <notwist> thesadmafioso: installing GRUB manually works just as well ofcourse
[12:37] <fre> So i downed ultraiso to burn an image of u 12.10 on my memory-stick
[12:37] <notwist> thesadmafioso: so boot repair could work, i just reinstalled to be sure but if thats a hassle you should try repairing first
[12:37] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Also, doesn't the GRUB get installed right at the end of installation? If I pull the USB stick out it won't just crash?
[12:37] <Tm_T> is it normal that there's several aufs bind mounts after doing "do-release-upgrade" ?
[12:37] <notwist> thesadmafioso: you can pull the USB stick up as soon as the installation is on your screen, it runs in RAM
[12:37] <Tm_T> I assume no
[12:37] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Have any resources handy about manually installing the grub?
[12:38] <notwist> thesadmafioso: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/05/reinstall-recover-grub-from-ubuntu-12-04-live-cd-usb/
[12:38] <notwist> thesadmafioso: its not hard, just annoying. try googling around
[12:39] <fre> I used USB-HDD mode to burn it. So after I did that, I turned off the PC than turned it on thus starting BIOS, then i pressed f1, and after that chose the source USB-HDD, but then nothing happened and W8 started to load
[12:39] <fre> small remark: I used f12 not f1
[12:40] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Off on another adventure. I am going to blame it on AMD just cause.
[12:40] <notwist> thesadmafioso: sounds good
[12:42] <fre> I guess i should come up with something by myself. Could someone at least give me a reliable source from where i can know the steps needed to go to Ubuntu not having to delete W8
[12:43] <jrib> fre: well your issue is that you're not getting your computer to boot from the usb.  Maybe there is an issue with your download, maybe there is an issue with the way you created your usb, or maybe you are just not telling your computer how to boot from the usb properly
[12:43] <ikonia> DrGrov: not really no
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> fre  start here http://www.intowindows.com/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu/
[12:44] <ikonia> DrGrov: is there something wrong with the standard mplayer setup ?
[12:44] <itguru> help
[12:49] <kluejay> What happens if I dd a smaller harddrive to a larger one?
[12:49] <itguru> Damn you Amazon spyway software thingy
[12:50] <ikonia> itguru: take it elsewhere
[12:58] <scaranik> ciao
[12:58] <scaranik> !list
[13:01] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Hey, I added the ppa where "Boot Loader" is, ran the regular "Boot Repair" option and it installed GRUB on the HDD, no sweat. The Windows 7 boots fine, Ubuntu boots fine, and we now have another convert to the cult of Linux.
[13:02] <notwist> thesadmafioso: frickin awsom
[13:02] <notwist> thesadmafioso: dont forget to make linux the default in GRUB ;)
[13:02] <notwist> thesadmafioso: pink background is nice too...
[13:03] <thesadmafioso> notwist: How does one check if Linux is indeed the default in GRUB? It's first on the list when the menu comes up . . . is that what you mean? :)
[13:03] <Eagleman> Why do i have a directory /run ?
[13:06] <zlude> Hello! look the numbers in the front of log file: https://gist.github.com/4267564 for example: "354560644.370" is it the date in some encoding? can i convert it to normal date/clock? thanks! someone can help me?
[13:07] <notwist> thesadmafioso: check the grub config file
[13:08] <notwist> thesadmafioso: it will say "default=n"
[13:09] <Eagleman> Why do i have a directory /run ?
[13:09] <Loif> quit
[13:10] <alazare619> im looking for a way to display the local display on lets call this machine A (a unix base distro) on Machine B a windows based machine without using vnc
[13:11] <alazare619> vnc is terribly slow
[13:11] <alazare619> over the network
[13:11] <Mavrik> aladilas, I've found Nomachine NX to be much faster than VNC
[13:11] <Mavrik> er, alazare619
[13:11] <alazare619> problem is it doesnt display the local display
[13:11] <Mavrik> I'm not sure it works with Ubuntu's unity though :\
[13:11] <alazare619> only (side session)
[13:12] <Mavrik> ah, you need to see the same display
[13:12] <alazare619> yea display 0.0 on machine A on machine b
[13:12] <alazare619> maachine b is a remote machine in my hosue thats a media server its hooked up to a tv with no keyboard and mosue and is used to  play movies
[13:12] <alazare619> ive used vnc to open vlc on it etc to play movies but vnc is soooo  laggy
[13:13] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Is that just in /boot/grub ?
[13:13] <alazare619> even with noxdamage ncache selected
[13:13] <alazare619> is it possible to xdmcp to the current display on a machine?
[13:13] <notwist> thesadmafioso: no idea where it is, google :P
[13:13] <thesadmafioso> notwist: Why google when one can "locate" ? :P
[13:14] <thesadmafioso> ALTHOUGH, with the new 'Buntu I guess locating IS becoming like Googling.
[13:14] <thesadmafioso> :(
[13:14] <younder> I use both google and locate
[13:14] <younder> And so should you
[13:14] <thesadmafioso> I don't like the idea of having what I search for on my local machine being broadcast onto the 'net, especially since it's set that way by default.
[13:15] <thesadmafioso> Also, I avoid Google as much as possible and never use their search services directly out of principle.
[13:15] <thesadmafioso> But, I am getting off topic.
[13:15] <anonymous> hello i; french
[13:15] <anonymous> im
[13:15] <younder> thesadmafioso, in that case remove zeitgeist, woopsie
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> thesadmafioso  if you mean the amazon lens, it's controversial and being discussed online
[13:15] <younder> and something else
[13:16] <thesadmafioso> MonkeyDust: Yes, have recently heard of the Amazon lens and that's what I was referring to.
[13:16] <putrowengi> good night
[13:16] <notwist> thesadmafioso: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#Configuration
[13:17] <younder> From what I have heard (haven't tried) removing zeitgeist can prove probemativ in unity. But if you intsall gnome shell you will be fine
[13:18] <younder> labeling canonical as the proverial snich is a problem
[13:18] <putrowengi> help me
[13:19] <notwist> !ask | putrowengi
[13:19] <younder> putrowengi, well try, calm down and tell us what you want
[13:20] <putrowengi> i am using ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS Kernel 3.2.6. i have problem to install modem dlinks DWM-152( A3)
[13:21] <jayar> lookin for an ftp server alternative to vsftpd
[13:22] <younder> putrowengi, have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[13:22] <thesadmafioso> younder: I agree that labeling Canonical as this evil doing snitch right off the bat is not good. I think it's also short-sighted when looking at privacy concerns in a holistic sense. However, it is alarming and I am not sure I approve of the trend on the part of Canonical.
[13:23] <thesadmafioso> Certainly it is worthy of debate and consideration from many different viewpoints.
[13:23] <putrowengi> YES , I have read it but dont solved yet
[13:23] <younder> thesadmafioso, I don't like it either
[13:23] <putrowengi> after installing driver but modem cant detect simcard
[13:24] <Eagleman> !10.04
[13:24]  * thesadmafioso is pondering donating money to Canonical when he upgrades to 12.04 and expressing his concerns in an email with it.
[13:25] <younder> really, ubuntu ususally is great on hardware. That is one of the reasons I cose it. It works on nearly anything
[13:25] <younder> Clearly it doesn't improve my spelling ;)
[13:25] <genius> max respecy
[13:25] <genius> !list
[13:26] <younder> Who ordered that?
[13:26] <wdp_> somehow i don't get bonding working.
[13:27] <wdp_> ifconfig shows bond0 with an ip address, but cat /sys/class/net/bond0/bonding/slaves reports no slaves.
[13:27] <younder> bonding?
[13:28] <younder> wdp_, why are you not using the network manager?
[13:28] <putrowengi> i try with wvdial but there is no modem was detect
[13:28] <wdp_> that's not a desktop.
[13:28] <wdp_> i'm using /etc/network/interfaces
[13:28] <llutz> wdp_: but you defined your slaves in /etc/network/interfaces? "slaves eth0 ethX"
[13:29] <younder> wdp_, true, you didn't spesify you system. Feel free to do so..'
[13:29] <wdp_> llutz, yes.
[13:29] <wdp_> llutz, tried with slaves eth0 eth1 and tried with iface eth2 inet manual
[13:29] <wdp_>         bond-master bond0
[13:29] <wdp_> err. eth1, eth2 :)
[13:30] <wdp_> llutz, lemme nopaste the config, sec.
[13:30] <thesadmafioso> notwist: thanks for your help today, I was educated and illuminated. Later!
[13:30] <notwist> thesadmafioso: glad to hear it, cheers
[13:31] <wdp_> llutz, http://pastie.org/private/7swvjp3wti4fqfdrtfdota <- also tried it with slaves eth1 eth2 in bond0 instead of bond-master bond0 and also with both.
[13:32] <wdp_> also tried with allow instead of auto.
[13:32] <younder> wdp_ when I last dit that I on the server went into the edit connections, edit and the share with other computers. This only works for up to 50 compters however
[13:33] <putrowengi> is ubuntu support all modem??
[13:33] <llutz> wdp_: last time i configured it, i did it just like shown here and it worked http://wiki.debian.org/Bonding
[13:33] <wdp_> llutz, followed the same article :)
[13:33] <wdp_> over and over again.
[13:34] <younder> wdp_ The  last time I did that on a server I went into the edit connections, edit and the share with other computers. This only works for up to 50 computers however
[13:34]  * wdp_ wonders what younder tries to tell me.
[13:35] <llutz> wdp_: sounds like internet-conenction-sharing or... whatever
[13:35] <younder> wdp_ well what I would like to do is point you to a web site
[13:35] <notwist> putrowengi: is it an internal modem or external?
[13:35] <alazare619> anyone have experience with a program called crossloop?
[13:35] <younder> wdp_ unfortunaly the webinfo is misleading
[13:36] <wdp_> llutz, what i did not try yet, is commenting eth1 and eth2 so that there is just bond0 within the interfaces file. let's see.
[13:36] <younder> wdp_  suffice it to say it CAN be DONE without ip ot ifconfig or netmasq
[13:36] <llutz> wdp thats what i did, no ethX stanzas in interfaces at all. i thought you did when you "also tried it with slaves eth1 eth2 in bond0 instead of bond-master"
[13:37] <wdp_> llutz, still doesn't work.
[13:37] <wdp_> plus, bond0 has no ip anymore :)
[13:38] <younder> wdp_  (I set up a network this week)
[13:38] <kristian-aalborg> I macroed!
[13:39] <llutz> wdp_: just to be sure, ifenslave is installed too?
[13:39] <troulouliou_dev> hi i m using lxdm + lxde on an old box with ubuntu , on startup i have a blank screen , i need to manually standby / recover to get a screen
[13:39] <wdp_> yea. wondering about the -2.6 but yeah it is installed.
[13:39] <wdp_> llutz, if i type in: ifup bond0 it tells me "waiting for a slave to join bond0 (will timeout after 60s)" but, nothing happens.
[13:40] <younder> wdp_ aren't you version 3 yet?
[13:40] <kgx> hi. i've had a few problems with my ubuntu partion (currently v12.10 but might be from 12.04 or earlier). anyway, i've mounted the partiion using the live cd and i notice that /root is a file and /home/* is empty. anyone know why?
[13:40] <putrowengi> notwist: its external modem
[13:41] <wdp_> llutz, if there'd be at least some debug output or error message somewhere.. but there's nothing. everything fine.
[13:41] <younder> kgx: I use 60 GB / 20 GB /tmp 20 GB /var and 300 GB /usr/local and 640 GB /user/<name>
[13:42] <putrowengi> this is my modem http://www.dlink.com.my/products/?idproduct=473&idCategory=199
[13:42] <younder> kgx i prefer custom partioning as it protects against DOS attacks
[13:42] <wdp_> younder, wtf
[13:43] <llutz> wdp_: i've no idea where to increase verbosity nor where to screw to get it working. sounds all correct.
[13:43] <simplexio> you get problems if your / dosent have room
[13:43] <kgx> younder, /home/* was there before. i had disk issues, ran fsck few times but then it didn't boot. now looking at it through a live CD shows my entirely home directory as empty..which is scary :(
[13:43] <younder> wdp_, A problem we had when I worked at Opera. var dir overfilled as the logs exceeded capasity filling the entire disc and destroying the OS
[13:44] <sunny_xiaobai5> \c
[13:44] <wdp_> younder, how long did you work there? 1 week?
[13:44] <younder> A week downtime 100 000$ lost
[13:44] <notwist> hahahaha
[13:45] <younder> wdp_ I was a systems developer. anyhow PARTION YOUR DISK
[13:45] <putrowengi> http://www.dlink.com.my/products/?idproduct=473&idCategory=199 ubuntu 10.04 lucid 3.2.6 has support this modem???
[13:46] <wdp_> llutz, wondering if it might have to do with my renaming of the eth devices. Actually dmesg reports that eth0 = onboard nic1, eth1 = pcie nic, eth2 = onboard nic2. Udev named them "em0, eth1 and p260p1" so i created udev rules with the specific MAC, making the pcie card eth0, and the two onboard nics eth1 and eth2.
[13:46] <jayar> i removed vsftpd now i can't reinstall it
[13:46] <xeocs> phishing site？
[13:46] <notwist> putrowengi: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=DWM-152+linux
[13:47] <younder> wdp_ You think I am joking just wait to it happens to uou
[13:47] <younder> whatever
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> putrowengi  instead of struggling with 10.04, somehow try to get 12.04 or 12.10 first, it may solve a lot af technical issues
[13:47] <younder> your funeral
[13:47] <llutz> wdp_: i can't imagine that those renaming matters, but maybe revert it for a test
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:47] <wdp_> llutz, now eth0 is bridged (br0) and works fine (brctl show shows that everything's correct). eth1 and eth2 should be bonded (bond0) while i always get a bond0 interface - sys/../../ reports no slaves.
[13:48] <wdp_> Another interesting error i get is when using mii-tool. it reports input output error for eth0. but since eth0 is totally unrelated for the bonding stuff, i ignored that.
[13:48] <wdp_> its the pcie card, maybe mii-tool does not have support for it or something *shrugs*
[13:48] <wdp_> but well, that's the setup.
[13:49] <benedict> hi, what's the easisest way to sync data with a group of people over internet? dropbox is out, because of storage limit. the others use linux, mac and windows.
[13:49] <putrowengi> monkeydust: im not
[13:50] <wdp_> benedict, i'd go for git / github
[13:50] <notwist> benedict: what kind of data
[13:50] <wdp_> benedict, if it's some project/programming.
[13:50] <benedict> wdp_: no programming
[13:50] <putrowengi> notwist: my fw was uptodate
[13:50] <wdp_> samba *cough* and ftp then.
[13:50] <wdp_> :>
[13:51] <notwist> benedict: still waiting for an answer; what kind of data
[13:51] <simplexio> benedict: if you have public ip address then rsync is easy
[13:51] <benedict> notwist: lots of documents and "static" data, and some text files, which will be ofthen changed
[13:51] <notwist> benedict: ok so nothing heavy?
[13:51] <Eagleman> Why do i have a directory /run ?
[13:51] <younder> wdp_ on the server use the network amager. Plug in only the internet. Check that it works. Then rebooot. Then plug in the other connections. go in network manager icon. . select edit connections and then on network try 'share with other computers' comboy
[13:52] <wdp_> younder, i really appreciate that you want to help. But, no, thanks.
[13:52] <younder> wdf_ I am trying to tell you how to do this
[13:52] <benedict> notwist: it is. i have 1.2TB but i only need to share maybe 300MB of it
[13:52] <notwist> benedict: Google Drive gives you 5 GB for free and you can edit text files in the browser simultaneously
[13:52] <younder> wdf_ But I acually set up a net this week. And you failed..
[13:53] <benedict> notwist: i NEED the data to be available offline too
[13:53] <notwist> benedict: that is a feature in google drive.
[13:53] <notwist> benedict: if 5 GB is enough and you don't want to pay, Google Drive is your thing.
[13:53] <oskar-> Eagleman:  it is a default directory intended to replace /var/run
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: it's not dissimilar to /var/run   which is a standardised folder
[13:53] <Touhou11> I'd advise against using Google Drive for privacy reasons
[13:54] <benedict> notwist: what about selfhosted otpions?
[13:54] <notwist> Here we go
[13:54] <notwist> benedict: well if you have a server available that can host all this there's plenty of options
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: it stores information about the running system since last boot, e.g., currently logged-in users and running daemons
[13:54] <Touhou11> Use something like http://owncloud.org/ on your own server instead of Google Drive, that way you have control of your data
[13:54] <benedict> notwist: i am thinking about going for a server
[13:54] <notwist> benedict: if people are willing to use a program to connect/transfer files I'd recommend SFTP
[13:55] <notwist> benedict: since you mentioned it will be over several operating systems its a good choice
[13:55] <wdp_> llutz, okay, i renamed the devices so that they match with those reported by dmesg. let's see.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: google drive is convenient though, and the user will have to keep the PC on to have access to the data which may not be viable
[13:55] <benedict> Touhou11: oh, looks good - i'll check it out
[13:55] <benedict> notwist: hm, so FTP
[13:55] <younder> benedict, I recomend souceforge
[13:55] <simplexio> benedict: like i said , rsync and it keep record what is changed and whats not
[13:55] <notwist> lets not have privacy debates -- google drive is great if people are willing to pay with their privacy instead of money, end of story
[13:56] <notwist> benedict: SFTP is encrypted, FTP is not
[13:56] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: One shouldn't be willing to sacrifice important data to an external company for the sake of convenience
[13:56] <juniour> hi
[13:56] <benedict> notwist: ok, but when using SFTP, how can i stay in sync? e.g. uplaod the right files i changed
[13:56] <notwist> Touhou11: stop speaking of your personal opinion like it was fact
[13:57] <younder> I have a encrypted /home. I share what I shar on sourceforge. There is no conflict
[13:57] <wdp_> llutz, no change.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: many do, it's not a bad thing to have data hosted externally, some companies (like the one I work for) host entire company infrastructures for compay convenience
[13:57] <llutz> wdp_: more than odd
[13:57] <younder> You don't have to share everyting or nothing
[13:57] <notwist> benedict: could you explain more in detail exactly what you want to be able to do
[13:57] <Touhou11> If you want files to stay synchronized rather than uploading specific folders, use rsync
[13:57] <younder> my few bits
[13:58] <hiemanshu> so guys, I setup a Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity on a tablet, works nicely, but now when I connect a mouse it doesn't show the cursor so I have to aim in the dark, any way to get the cursor back?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: we host LOTS of company data and they pay us to keep it secure and available
[13:58] <benedict> notwist: ok, geve me a sec to write it down properly
[13:58] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: I wouldn't trust you, I consider them foolish
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: Google are just doing the same. Try taking the tinfoil hat off and think about the situation
[13:59] <wdp_> llutz, for "testing" i connected them to a switch (the same) but that shouldn't cause the trouble i have, could it?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: so you think Nvidia and Nintendo are foolish? You don't know what you are talking about
[13:59] <younder> Touhou11, All trust iis foolish. But hey were human. Mostly it works.
[13:59] <Touhou11> There's no "tinfoil" hat, Google use the convenience of their services to ensnare you into surrending valuable personal data. Seems to work on a lot of idiots
[14:00] <llutz> wdp_: afaik no, that shouldn't matter
[14:00] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: What has Nvidia and Nintendo got to do with it?
[14:00] <wdp_> running out of ideas.
[14:00] <Keyser> \o
[14:00] <younder> Touhou11, You seem a bit paranoid
[14:00] <Keyser> can I get some infos about ubuntu?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: they host all their HR data in our datacentres.....
[14:00] <llutz> wdp_: i just tried  a similar setup in a 12.10-vbox, no dice too, bond0 up but no slaves
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: in short, you are too paranoid for words. Its pretty hilarious
[14:01] <wdp_> llutz, yeah, 12.10 server here.
[14:01] <Fedot> i config postfix and i get this error 554 5.7.1 relay access denied every time and when i send to root@localhost
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> Touhou11  if the cloud weren't safe, enterprises wouldn't use it
[14:01] <wdp_> llutz, do you have a chance to test it in earlier ubuntu releases i vbox?
[14:01] <wdp_> s/i/in
[14:01] <diverdude> rI have a raidarray: /dev/md1. However, this is only available in the system after i have done mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 /dev?[abcd]3.  When i restart the array is no longer available and i need to write this command again. How do i make it available after restart automatically?
[14:01] <wdp_> maybe i just ran into some release-bug :)
[14:01] <notwist> Touhou11 is a RMS fundamentalist, no point in even having a discussion
[14:01] <Fedot> i config postfix and i get this error 554 5.7.1 relay access denied every time and when i send to root@mydomain.com
[14:01] <llutz> wdp_: i'll have to setup a new vm for it
[14:02] <devsoul> exit
[14:02] <wdp_> or it's teeh kernel.
[14:02] <Touhou11> MonkeyDust: You place a lot of confidence that IT managers for companies are half-way competent when deciding they'll use the "cloud"
[14:02] <Keyser> gimme a scream when it's my turn ::)
[14:03] <benedict> notwist: may i pm you?
[14:03] <Touhou11> Not surprising people on here are quick to rubbish any privacy concerns of the "cloud", given the recent developments in Ubuntu with the Amazon searech
[14:03] <Pici> !ask | Keyser
[14:03] <Touhou11> *search
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> Touhou11  take the discussion somewhere else, please
[14:03] <wdp_> Touhou11, ActionParsnip: btw. actually.. if my "important" data at google get's stolen or lost or something. google has the money to pay back. So actually it's a good choice to have data there, from a commercial point of view, isn't it? /me hides
[14:03] <wdp_> (sorry for ot :D)
[14:03] <Pici> Can we please move the cloud vs. paranoia conversation somewhere where its not blocking other support questions, like #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:03] <Touhou11> MonkeyDust: Please tell that to others too, not just the person you disagree with
[14:03] <simplexio> wdp_: free service dosent give you that quarantee
[14:04] <notwist> benedict: id rather not, someone else is probably better suited to answer your question than i am
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Pici: already done and done
[14:04] <Pici> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[14:04] <benedict> notwist: ok, then i'll keep the discussion here
[14:04] <notwist> benedict: one problem with your setup is the fact that you have many different operating systems
[14:04] <Keyser> well, I've been using windows on both of my computers for 8 years for now, and it's getting slower, and I'm looking for an alternative OS, which isn't as performance centric, yet has (about) all the functions as Win, especially gaming
[14:04] <notwist> benedict: for that reason i still think google drive might be the best, but if security and integrity is very important you might have to make some sacrifices to set it up yourself
[14:05] <Keyser> Would Ubuntu, or derivates would be a good choice for me?
[14:05] <xeocs> keyser: which game?
[14:05] <wdp_> llutz, there's also some ubuntu guide which has another syntax for setting up bonding. but actually none helps. wondering if anyone else has trouble with bonding in 12.10 server.
[14:05]  * wdp_ will google for some bug report in a few. 
[14:05] <Keyser> pretty many, starting from WoW, to NFS, HoI2, or to be more precise, nearly everything :D
[14:06] <Touhou11> Keyser: I recommend Xubuntu, which I find has the best compromise between performance and usability. Should be good for gaming as Valve are releasing Steam for Linux quite soon
[14:06] <cfhowlett> !wine|Keyser:might be of interest to you for gaming.
[14:06] <Touhou11> Keyser: You can't expect all your Windows games to work perfectly even with WINE
[14:06] <benedict> notwist: third party host sould be avoided - i am quite IT-affine and usually i do just mess with stuff till it works.  but in this case the priject is rather hughe, lot's  of people depend on it and i am not sure wich approach to choose. once the direction is set, i am read to go - may it be setting up an own server, runincg services and waht not
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Keyser, if you want to keep using your windows games , but still have a fast stable OS then dual booting probly your best option
[14:06] <cfhowlett> Keyser: so far as which linux distro, lubuntu or xubuntu are both light weights resourcewise.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: if you are gaming, you may want to keep Windows. Some games run amazingly in Wine, some don't. The other stuff like web browsing, emailing etc will be identical
[14:06] <notwist> benedict: if you're running your own server you are also responsible. what about backups? What about emergency situations?
[14:06] <benedict> notwist: i want to avoid to invest a lot of time (and money) into running one way, only to notice that i chose the wrong approach
[14:07] <deav> Does anyone know if any software mods are required for running Ubuntu 12.10 on an SSD, to ensure performance over the long term in a desktop role?
[14:07] <Keyser> I don't think dual booting would be an optimal option
[14:07] <benedict> notwist: i am ready for that
[14:07] <Keyser> please be advised that I've never used Linux systems before
[14:07] <cfhowlett> Keyser: consider virtualization, e.g virtualbox
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: why not?
[14:07] <mustafa_> erasing a  directory any suggestion ?
[14:07] <xeocs> keyser: why not try to clean for a little bit, and upgrade hardware also do :) you could also try wine, btw i dont play games so i dont know if it willvhelp
[14:07] <notwist> benedict: the only bad thing about google drive is that google can see your stuff. thats it. you get immense advantages besides that. but if you still want to set up something of your own, you need to look at the multi platform aspect first of all
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  basically: rf -r [folder]
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: Windows for games, Ubuntu for the other stuff
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: although, if you game a lot then you'll use Ubuntu seldomly, so a single boot may be the way
[14:08] <Keyser> I'm not in a state to upgrade my computer :)
[14:08] <notwist> benedict: you need something that can be accessed in a smooth way from osx/win/linux, SFTP is okay but the question is if you can mount sftp/ssh seamlessly on all these systems, i know linux is no problem with sshfs and all
[14:08] <benedict> notwist: yes. that is why I was considering owncloud or sparkleshare - but i think those two are prett much an over-kill of what i need
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: you don't have to upgrade the computer....
[14:08] <notwist> benedict: if you're going for a cloud solution why is owncloud or whatever better than google?
[14:08] <xeocs> keyser, so uninstall some software?
[14:09] <notwist> if anything its worse; google is huge and reputable
[14:09] <benedict> notwist: because they are self hosted
[14:09] <Keyser> I hoped there would be a Linux distro which is used for gaming
[14:09] <notwist> benedict: meaning what?
[14:09] <benedict> notwist: my server, my data
[14:09] <notwist> benedict: allright, well then its not really a cloud solution to begin with, its just co-location
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: there is one with lots of games already installed. Otherwise they will be the same for Windows games
[14:09] <benedict> notwist: co-location?
[14:10] <xeocs> keyser, then use ubuntu+wine
[14:10] <notwist> benedict: co-location is paying a data center to place your server there
[14:10] <xeocs> performance, i dont know
[14:10] <llutz> wdp_: at least it has to bee a ubuntu-issue, it works ootb inside my squeeze-vbox as shown in wiki.debian.org. sry that won't help you
[14:10] <Teduardo> Anyone use Intel's RSTe SCU with Ubuntu 12.10?
[14:10] <Keyser> I'm pretty minimalistic in terms of softwares, there isn't much which isn't essential
[14:10] <notwist> benedict: anyway, if you want to set up your own server I recommend SFTP/SSH, it's encrypted in transfer and you can encrypt the disk on the server with ubuntu easily
[14:10] <Teduardo> It installs the OS ok but then it won't boot
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> Keyser  http://gamedrift.org/Index.html
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: using a lighter desktop will free up more resources for games
[14:10] <notwist> benedict: question then is interaction towards the different operating systems and there i cant help
[14:10] <Keyser> will Ubuntu+Wine work about the same as WinXP?
[14:10] <llutz> be*
[14:11] <Touhou11> Keyser: No
[14:11] <Pici> Keyser: it depends.
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: it may, depends on the app
[14:11] <Pici> !appdb | Keyser
[14:11] <xeocs> maybe
[14:11] <benedict> notwist: ok, given ssh+ftp works for all OS. how do i take care of the syncing? or if there are file conflicts?
[14:11] <Keyser> ActionParsnip: Yep, that's what I'm looking for
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: there is no single answer when it comes to wine, some apps work better than Windows, some refuse to even install
[14:11] <notwist> benedict: i dont know, only thing i can think of is an SFTP client like filezilla
[14:12] <notwist> benedict: maybe you could have separate folders for all users to avoid conflicts
[14:12] <Touhou11> benedict: If you want syncing, use rsync instead of FTP
[14:12] <Keyser> Wine is also free, right?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: there are native apps too, playdeb has some great games, there are also the humble bundles
[14:12] <hiemanshu> so guys, I setup a Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity on a tablet, works nicely, but now when I connect a mouse it doesn't show the cursor so I have to aim in the dark, any way to get the cursor back?
[14:12] <notwist> Touhou11 so how is benedict supposed to set up rsync for the Windows clients?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: yes, totally
[14:12] <xeocs> yep,keyser
[14:12] <benedict> notwist: afaik there is a rsync client for win
[14:12] <Touhou11> notwist: Write a Python script, I've setup rsync on Windows at work myself
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: there is also Crossover office and Cedega to run Windows apps too, but are not free in any way
[14:13] <Keyser> then I think I will try Ubuntu+Wine
[14:13] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Ah, there you are. Thanks again for fixing the 1920x1080 xorg.conf display resolution issue I had. :)
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: all OK?
[14:13] <Keyser> do I have to reformat the file systems on every hard drive?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Keyser: no, Ubuntu can read and write to NTFS
[14:13] <Touhou11> Keyser: No, you can choose how much space and which drives to allocate to Ubuntu
[14:13] <benedict> notwist: Touhou11 what about using svn?
[14:13] <xeocs> oh right, crossover is for gamers to run games on linux
[14:13] <notwist> benedict Touhou11 I'm still skeptical about rsync when it comes to several users editing the same stuff at once
[14:13] <notwist> seems more of a backup solution to me
[14:13] <Keyser> all of my current HDDs are formatted in NTFS
[14:13] <xeocs> but crossover is commercial ware
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> xeocs: or Cedega :)
[14:13] <Touhou11> notwist: Yes. that might be problematic
[14:14] <xeocs> a.p.: thx;)
[14:14] <Mingo_> hey anybody here? I am a new linux user and I am having trouble connecting to the internet, I am suspecting that it is because I haven't installed chipset drivers, but I am un-sure anybody have a second?
[14:14] <DrGrov> ikonia: No, there is nothing wrong with the standard MPlayer setup. I just thought to get a 2nd opinion or so which might be "better"(or how to say it) for 12.04.
[14:14] <notwist> benedict my point about Google is that if you enter a document that is shared and someone is editing, you actually see in real time in the browser when the other person is editing, nothing is lost etc, its actually really good
[14:14] <notwist> afaik there's no floss variant of that
[14:14] <Touhou11> Mingo_: Congratulations, you're talking on the Internet at the moment so it must be working
[14:14] <Keyser> which also reminds my, what about drivers?
[14:14] <Mingo_> I am on another box buddy!
[14:15] <notwist> benedict browser based also means complete compability over os
[14:15] <xeocs> drivers??
[14:15] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Yes, everything is perfect with the resolution itself. There is just a few things I still wonder about with the direct rendering.
[14:15] <Mingo_> It's curious because I am getting an IP addresss (on the linux box), but I cant ping out
[14:15] <Touhou11> Keyser: You need the proprietary drivers installed for your graphics card to get decent performance for any game
[14:15] <notwist> Mingo_: what ip do you get
[14:15] <benedict> notwist: it is not important to collaborate on files at the very same second
[14:15] <Keyser> I'm using a very old ATi card, which is not supported anymore (I'm using an old driver), will I need an another one for Ubuntu?
[14:15] <Mingo_> ?lol I get a 10. IP
[14:15] <notwist> benedict: well what if they do that accidentally
[14:15] <notwist> benedict: and overwrite another persons work
[14:16] <Mingo_> which is what I ought to be getting (it's what I get on the box I am using right now.)
[14:16] <benedict> notwist: it might be, that there are some version conflict, but in generall, i only have to maange dokuments that are usually edited by only one persopn
[14:16] <benedict> person
[14:16] <notwist> Mingo_: why is it what you ought to get? thats an internal ip
[14:16] <xeocs> ubuntu seems to have wildcard support for graph cards
[14:16] <benedict> notwist: ok, point take
[14:16] <benedict> taken
[14:16] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I had to test Extreme Tux Racer but apparently the 1920x1080 resolution in the game did not display properly, it was more like 1024x768 or similar. I could not either test with glxgears to see if the direct rendering was active since glxgears crashed on me. You have any ideas about how to confirm whether it is working or not as it should?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: I'd make a backup of the file ;)
[14:16] <notwist> benedict: no matter what solution you choose you _need_ to have version control, so maybe svn could help there
[14:16] <Mingo_> well our IT department pays for a range of 10. IPs
[14:16] <Mingo_> So when I see that my linux box has also recieved a 10. IP
[14:16] <Mingo_> it makes sense
[14:17] <younder> 10 GB is nonsense
[14:17] <notwist> benedict: again, google wins because the version control is right there in the browser accessible by everone
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: you may need extra options in the file
[14:17] <notwist> Mingo_: you dont pay for 10-ips
[14:17] <younder> Just another way to get you to pay for ubuntu
[14:17] <Mingo_> well, yes we do.
[14:17] <Mingo_> we pay for a range of 192. IPs and 10. IPs
[14:17] <Mingo_> from our ISP
[14:17] <notwist> Mingo_: http://compnetworking.about.com/od/routers/g/10_0_0_1_def.htm
[14:17] <Touhou11> notwist: Google wins when they have access to all your personal data
[14:17] <Mingo_> but that is beside the point
[14:17] <Keyser> how large USB stick will I need to install it?
[14:17] <notwist> Touhou11 lol
[14:18] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Yes, I did make a backup of xorg.conf since I really do not want this to happen again. For further use, I will upload it to Dropbox or send it by e-mail to myself so I always have it around, for the worst case scenarios.
[14:18] <mustafa_> removing a file inside the var/www directory under root privelige any suggestion ?
[14:18] <xeocs> 800mib above keyser
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: your ISP won't give you a 192 IP, its class C so is unroutable.
[14:18] <notwist> Mingo_: allright, well if you know that the 10-ip is fine and it should work, ping not working is strange
[14:18] <Keyser> thanks
[14:18] <Touhou11> mustafa_: Use the terminal
[14:18] <wdp_> llutz, thats absolutely no problem. the question is, how i can fix that. Could you please pm me some information about that squeeze install? maybe the interfaces file, output of ifconfig, maybe the kernel-version (uname -a) such stuff?
[14:18] <sabel21210> Can anyone help me with a quick Hardware Comparison question? it's not entirely ubuntu related, although i will be putting ubuntu on the system.
[14:18] <xeocs> no problem
[14:18] <mustafa_> iam using it
[14:18] <Keyser> then I think I will try it
[14:18] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: So you mean I might have to do some tweaking of xorg.conf in order to get games to display 1920x1080 properly? But is there anything else to test direct rendering with than glxgears? Something perhaps more "modern"?
[14:18] <benedict> notwist: Touhou11 ok,thank you both for your input. i think i will turn at svn for now and see if it fits my needs
[14:18] <Keyser> thanks, bye
[14:18] <notwist> Mingo_: what is your default gateway
[14:18] <mustafa_> how to
[14:18] <notwist> benedict: good luck mate
[14:18] <wdp_> llutz, or nopaste, whatever is easier :)
[14:18] <Touhou11> mustafa_: Read the man pages
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Touhou11, and what is it about your personal data that makes google so interested in you ?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: your router will give you a 192.168.0.0/24 IP      but your WAN IP will be different
[14:19] <Mingo_> okay let me ask a different question here. Is it neccessary to install chipset drivers for ubuntu?
[14:19] <llutz> wdp_: argh, i just reverted that. but i just used the interfaces-example from wiki.debian.org, added "bonding" to /etc/modules and that's it
[14:19] <sabel21210> Alright..il just ask it xD
[14:19] <notwist> Mingo_: if you're getting an IP adress there's nothing wrong with the network
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: which chipset?
[14:19] <Mingo_> right. there is something wrong with my box.
[14:19] <Mingo_> I am not sure going to go look it up now.,
[14:20] <notwist> Mingo_: although in 99 % of cases when you get a 10-ip its because youre expected to go to a web login of some kind and authenticate yourself, or you dont have a service
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: sound chipset? Wifi chipset? Video chipset?
[14:20] <Touhou11> !ot | BluesKaj
[14:20] <Mingo_> well ethernet chipset
[14:21] <notwist> Mingo_: you're getting an ip, its working. the end
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: lots of them are in a default install, if not then yes....same with any OS
[14:21] <Mingo_> i can't use the internet
[14:21] <Mingo_> i get the IP
[14:21] <Mingo_> but i can't use the internet
[14:21] <sabel21210> I currently have Intel I5 quad core 3.3ghz  8gb ddr3 ram Nvidia Geforce GTX560 1gb video memory, i would like to know if Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Mobile Processor (4x 2.4GHz/6MB L3 Cache) / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M 3GB GDDR5 Video w/ NVIDIA Optimus [CZ-17] will be better or worse
[14:21] <Mingo_> my mask is 255.255.255.0
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: if you run:  ping -c 4 8.8.8.8       do you get replies?
[14:21] <notwist> Mingo_: what happens when you open a browser, do you just get denied?
[14:21] <notwist> Mingo_: if you try to open google.com or whatever
[14:22] <Mingo_> it just says connecting connecting
[14:22] <Mingo_> then nothing
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> sabel21210: optimus is a massive headache
[14:22] <Pici> sabel21210: That would be more on-topic for ##hardware
[14:22] <Mingo_> server not found.
[14:22] <Touhou11> Mingo_: I wouldn't try opening google.com, I'd use a search engine which respects your privacy
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: do the pings reply?
[14:22] <notwist> uuuuggghhhh
[14:22] <Mingo_> no they do now :(
[14:22] <Mingo_> not**
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: can you ping your router's IP?
[14:23] <xeocs> a.p. : like duckduckg
[14:23] <Mingo_> let me see
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Touhou11, and your worry about google isn't offtopic , I suppose
[14:23] <Touhou11> !ot | BluesKaj
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> xeocs: I do. Its awesome
[14:23] <llutz> wdp_: query? i got it up again
[14:23] <notwist> Touhou11: keep your FLOSS fundamentalism to yourself please
[14:23] <BluesKaj> itonly works once Touhou11
[14:23] <wdp_> llutz, sure.
[14:23] <xeocs> a.p : me 2
[14:23] <Mingo_> no it appears that I cannot
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: did you set the IP manually for the system by any chance?
[14:24] <Mingo_> no I didn't but that was my next question
[14:24] <xeocs> so ethernet card isnt working?? mingo
[14:24] <Mingo_> that might have been done in the past, but this is a fresh install of ubuntu
[14:24] <notwist> Mingo_: could you please install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit) and then run 'ifconfig | pastebinit' and share the url you get
[14:24] <Mingo_> and everything was wiped off the computer
[14:24] <Mingo_> k
[14:25] <Mingo_> well do i need the internet
[14:25] <Mingo_> to install paste?
[14:25] <notwist> um...
[14:25] <notwist> yeah
[14:25] <notwist> :)
[14:25] <Mingo_> elohel
[14:25] <Mingo_> okay here is another symptom i should have included
[14:25] <Mingo_> when i first plug in the ethernet
[14:25] <Mingo_> i get internet
[14:25] <Mingo_> for 3 seconds
[14:25] <Mingo_> and then it cuts out
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: if you run:  sudo dhclient eth0     do you get a reply?
[14:25] <sabel21210> Why is optimus such a headache?
[14:25] <notwist> Mingo_: what is your context? college dorm? company intranet?
[14:26] <Mingo_> it says files exist
[14:26] <Mingo_> company internet
[14:26] <Mingo_> I am an entry level IT persomn
[14:26] <Mingo_> and my boss is out of town
[14:26] <Mingo_> and I dpont want to bother him on vacation
[14:26] <notwist> Mingo_: how was your computer set up when it last worked?
[14:26] <Mingo_> it was configured as a firewall
[14:26] <notwist> Mingo_: was it running Ubuntu then as well?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: ok, run:  dmesg | tail      should give clues
[14:27] <Mingo_> no it wasnt running ubuntu
[14:27] <Mingo_> kk
[14:27] <michealPW> sabel21210: Drivers. Notoriously broken. Not sure of the latest state but it seems everytime I'm on IRC help channels theres _somebody else_ that bought an Optimus system that can't get it to work properly. Linus Torvalds actually commented on this very issue if you're curious ( off-topic, though :P )
[14:27] <Mingo_> hmm
[14:27] <Mingo_> i cant really cut and copy what it found
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Mingo_, sudo service networking restart
[14:27] <Mingo_> ^ K just did that
[14:28] <Mingo_> i got a srry ubuntu experienced a problem
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: just search for it on the web
[14:28] <notwist> Mingo_: when you run ifconfig, your eth0 gets a 10-ip right? and thats from DHCP (auto)? whats your gateway?
[14:28] <Mingo_> i have been but i cat get anything
[14:28] <Mingo_> my gateway is 255.255.255.0
[14:29] <Mingo_> oh i guess that is my mask
[14:29] <michealPW> Yes
[14:29] <notwist> yeah
[14:29] <Mingo_> my box is restarting one second
[14:29] <BluesKaj> sabel21210, have you tried bumblebee  ?
[14:29] <notwist> Mingo_: im thinking your system, before the reinstall, could have had some kind of authentication towards the router that is giving you that 10-ip, that is now missing. that could explain why it works briefly but then shuts you off
[14:30] <Mingo_> I suspect you are right
[14:30] <sabel21210> Whats Bumblebee?
[14:30] <Mingo_> now that I am thinking about it
[14:30] <Mingo_> i am going to look in our dhcp.conf file
[14:30] <Mingo_> and see if there is anything funky about the mac addresses
[14:30] <notwist> Mingo_: the 10-ips are internal and are given to you by the router so there is nothing wrong there, you are communicating and getting an ip
[14:30] <Mingo_> so where do you think I should look
[14:30] <notwist> Mingo_: but it's choosing not to let you through im thinking
[14:30] <Mingo_> for the parameter messing this p
[14:31] <Mingo_> up*
[14:31] <notwist> Mingo_: if you look at what your gateway is, that should be the ip to your router
[14:31] <Mingo_> k second
[14:31] <michealPW> sabel21210: Bumblebee is an open-source driver project for nVidia's Optimus systems, as far as I know.
[14:31] <Mingo_> i wish i could ssh into this box
[14:31] <Mingo_> -.-.-
[14:31] <Mingo_> would my gateway be my bcast
[14:31] <notwist> sabel21210 michealPW bumblbee* I think its spelt is also an IRC server for communicating over IM networks
[14:31] <Mingo_> or what?
[14:31] <iceroot> Mingo_: bumblebee is an open-source program which is using the closed source drivers
[14:31] <michealPW> Oh, hrmm!
[14:32] <iceroot> Mingo_: sorry wrong nick
[14:32] <iceroot> michealPW: see above :)
[14:32] <Mingo_> @notwist after i run ifconfig -a what string of numbers would be my gateway
[14:32] <notwist> Mingo_: i dont think those two terms are the same, but im not sure
[14:32] <Mingo_> i am connected over ethernet
[14:32] <iceroot> notwist: bitlbee is the icq/irc program
[14:32] <michealPW> sabel21210: Honestly.. I personally would _never_ recommend a GNU/Linux (Ubuntu) user to buy an nVidia optimus system. You're rewarding _terrible_ behavior on the part of nVidia. nVidia does not support their customers with drivers so why suffer? That's just my opinion, I don't represent Canonical/Ubuntu or anything..
[14:32] <notwist> Mingo_: try route -n
[14:33] <Mingo_> k
[14:33] <wdp_> llutz, got it working.
[14:33] <Mingo_> k i get
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network       what  is the product line for the Ethernet?
[14:33] <Mingo_> k second
[14:33] <llutz> wdp_: how?
[14:33] <myhero> how to print irssi session ?
[14:33] <Mingo_> i think my gateway is a 192.70.254.1
[14:34] <Mingo_> the product line is
[14:34] <michealPW> Just a personal opinion. Not sure why _anybody_ keeps buying this crap from nVidia but I suppose that's all off-topic :P
[14:34] <wdp_> llutz, what i changed was: instead of underscore (_) i used a - for the bond options, instead of "slaves ethx ethy" i used "bond-slaves none" and i set ethx and ethy to auto and bond-master bond0 as described https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding here.
[14:34] <xeocs> myh, copy paste print
[14:34] <Mingo_> "RTL8111/8168B PCI express gigabit ethernet controller
[14:34] <Mingo_> totally forgot to mention that the ethernet card is a PCI-E
[14:34] <notwist> Mingo_: ping that ip
[14:35] <notwist> Mingo_: also try it in your browser
[14:35] <Fedot> 554 5.7.1 Relay access denied why i get this error ?
[14:35] <Mingo_> i cant ping it
[14:35] <Fedot> postfix
[14:35] <llutz> wdp_: so there are differences debian/ubuntu, nice to know... glad that you got it working now
[14:35] <Mingo_> 100% packet loss
[14:35] <llutz> Fedot: you setup sasl-auth?
[14:35] <wdp_> llutz, seems so, though bridging works like in debian :)
[14:35] <Fedot> no
[14:36] <notwist> Mingo_: now that i think of it i guess you cant because if you have a 10-ip and your netmask is 255.255.255.0 you can only access 10.0.0.X (i think)
[14:36] <wdp_> probably that just has to do with the more current kernel.
[14:36] <notwist> Mingo_: do you have physical access to the router? can you get into some kind of admin interface from some other computer?
[14:36] <Fedot> i just follow this :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[14:36] <Mingo_> yea i could
[14:36] <lesshaste> how can you configure a web proxy for chromium? In firefox you just add it to an "automatic proxy configuration URL" in the preferences. Is there some chromium equivalent?
[14:36] <Mingo_> what kind of information would you want to see
[14:37] <Mingo_> http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[14:37] <Mingo_> should i download a driver from there?
[14:37] <Mingo_> not sure what linux kernel i am using
[14:37] <notwist> lesshaste: did you spend one second googling that question?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> sabel21210: thereis bumblebee but its far from prerfect
[14:37] <llutz> !pm | Fedot
[14:37] <lesshaste> notwist, yes!
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> sabel21210: nvidia did join the linux foundation so maybe support will come, but its a massive headache
[14:37] <myhero> how to configure vsftpd for ssl, and whats the speed differen between active and passive modes ? and whats the best server for android ? I have android gingerbread 2.3.6....also how to print current irssi session ?
[14:37] <lesshaste> notwist, I found only a command line option which isn't waht I want
[14:37] <notwist> Mingo_: drivers isnt the problem, you should just try to look at the settings your router have ansd figure out why its blocking you
[14:38] <notwist> lesshaste: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/proxy-switchy/caehdcpeofiiigpdhbabniblemipncjj
[14:38] <Mingo_> k damn this sucks; I just want to be able to download virtualbox
[14:38] <xeocs> mingo, so net gate, netgate
[14:38] <Mingo_> that's the only reason I am using this box anyway
[14:38] <lesshaste> notwist, oh.. it's not just a menu option?
[14:38] <Mingo_> to test freenas -.-
[14:38] <michealPW> I still wouldn't recommend _purchasing_ a new laptop with nVidia's Optimus "technology" to take a gamble with Bumblebee. The problem is that when it does not work, you _cannot_ use your nVidia GPU...
[14:39] <michealPW> You are stuck using the _useless_ Intel GMA built into the core i7. Until nVidia provides support for Linux, I don't think _anybody_ should be recommended to buy their crap Optimus "technology".
[14:39] <notwist> !ot michealPW
[14:39] <notwist> !ot | michealPW
[14:39] <xeocs> i think 10.x.x.x is a internal ip address
[14:39] <notwist> xeocs: it is
[14:40] <wdp_> llutz, or actually wrong, i didnt set slaves to "none" as in the doc, i set them to the devices. http://pastie.org/private/pbytul254hb8qgnjrslg  <-
[14:40] <lesshaste> notwist, thanks
[14:40] <Fedot> llutz i enabled smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes and now i get ogin failed, please check the username and password and try again
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: what chip are you using?
[14:40] <xeocs> so, mingo can access internal ip, could it be netgate's error?
[14:40] <Mingo_> what's the command to see my system information?
[14:40] <Mingo_> what's netgate?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> myhero: apt-cache policy irssi       will show your irssi version
[14:41] <mbumgarner> does anyone have  any information on building the Remmina package? i have tried but it is coming up short because of the CMakeList.txt
[14:41] <xeocs> 网关
[14:41] <mbumgarner> says theres an error on line 96...
[14:41] <llutz> wdp_: so someone should correct the ubuntu-tutorial or at least recheck the "bond-slaves ...." entry
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> myhero: if you have openssh-server installed you can connect with andftp on android
[14:42] <DrGrov> How is it with fonts in Ubuntu? Is there anything that could cause a conflict? Thinking mainly about if the ttf-mscorefonts-installer could cause issues when I also have fonts-liberation installed.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> myhero: it will connect securely rather than messing with SSL over FTP
[14:42] <Fedot> llutz i enabled smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes and now i get ogin failed, please check the username and password and try again
[14:43] <Mingo_> @actionparsnip how can i get this information to you?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> myhero: also, andftp will be version independant, as long as the app installs on your version of android
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: run:     sudo lshw -C network    we only need the product line
[14:43] <brendan`> morning.. anyone know if libapache2-mod-xsendfile v0.9-2 would work on 12.04 LTS?
[14:43] <xeocs> sorry a gateway
[14:44] <brendan`> 12.04 comes with 0.12-1 from the repos, but i was going to try to install via deb
[14:44] <Fedot> i just installed postfix and enable sasl_auth i need to install dovecot to?
[14:44] <xeocs>  mingo, sorry it is gate way
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> brendan`: worth a try, you can always uninstall it
[14:44] <xeocs> perhaps there is something to do with that
[14:45] <brendan`> ehh, seemed to install ok ActionParsnip
[14:45] <brendan`> :D
[14:45] <Mingo_> @actionparsnip "RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller"
[14:45] <brendan`> listed as installed via dpkg -l and apache restarted without issue
[14:45] <brendan`> ty
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> brendan`: just because it shows up there doesn't mean its installed right
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> brendan`: sorry, crossed wires
[14:46] <llutz> Fedot: what are you actually trying to achieve, just sending some mails from cli?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> brendan`: pin the version now, or it will be upgraded when you run updates
[14:47] <DrGrov> Better yet, is there any good universal fonts package available on Ubuntu that would cover most, if not all, font needs? Is there risk for conflicts regarding fonts?
[14:47] <brendan`> not familar with pinning
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:47] <brendan`> got a resource on reading up on it?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> !pin | brendan`
[14:47] <brendan`> ty ActionParsnip
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> !aptpin | brendan`
[14:47] <Mingo_> quantal
[14:48] <Fedot> i installed a newsletter system and i set it to send over smtp
[14:48] <Fedot> and he dont want to connect
[14:48] <Fedot> but whit roundcube its working
[14:48] <lucido> my-weather-indicator rulez
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Mingo_: http://www.rvdavid.net/how-to-get-gigabit-speeds-from-rtl81118168b-pci-express-gigabit-ethernet-controller-on-ubuntu-linux/    may help
[14:50] <myhero_> ActionParsnip: srry i got disconnected and thnx :), i have openssh-server installed but i wanted try ftp over ssl for once and see its performance, also got andftp but is it best ? and for irssi i want to print the chat session for future reference
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> myhero_: there is no best
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> myhero_: if there was, NONE of the others would get used and die off
[14:51] <myhero_> ActionParsnip: ok yea thats right, what about the rest of the question ?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> myhero_: there are irc logs for the server online.
[14:52] <myhero_> ActionParsnip: yes...but there was a command for irssi chat session printing....i used it before but forgot now :(
[14:54] <Kartagis> would creating a SPF record prevent my e-mails from ending in spam folder?
[14:54] <llutz> Kartagis: if the receiver checks for SPF, maybe
[14:54] <Kartagis> llutz: google?
[14:55] <lamont> Core was generated by `/usr/bin/X :0 -core -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitc'.
[14:55] <lamont> Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted.
[14:55] <llutz> Kartagis: idk
[14:55] <lamont> so, where is that assert going to have logged anything?
[14:57] <llutz> Kartagis: they set an SPF so i'd guess they also will check for thsoe "host -t TXT google.com"
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> myhero_: you mean you want to show the irssi version?
[15:00] <jiltdil> Is LFS a open source project?
[15:00] <myhero_> ActionParsnip: i want to the chat.....i.e. like me or other ppl asking questions and You or other ppl giving answers or suggestions....the whole chat
[15:01] <dwakar> how do you install xorg-dev in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:01] <RomeoAva> almosarife the button REMOVE in Software Sources is inactive. Can I remove the lines from another place, please?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !log | myhero_
[15:01] <llutz> jiltdil: #lfs
[15:02] <vitimiti> o/
[15:03] <dwakar> did apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev and i got -Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[15:03] <dwakar> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[15:03] <dwakar> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[15:04] <dwakar> or been moved out of Incoming.
[15:04] <johnshaft> Could somebody please suggest how to restore lock functionality in 12.04 Ltd
[15:04] <Fedot> i configure my server whit this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto ... and i activated sasl auth ... but when i connect i get the error authentificate error password or username wrong ( roundcoube works perfectly) but when i set a php script to connect to smtp server i get this error
[15:05] <Fedot> i dont have dovecot installed maybe this is problem?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !info xserver-xorg-dev
[15:05] <Fedot> but i have courier imap and pop43
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: its on the main repo
[15:06] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[15:06] <dwakar> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[15:06] <dwakar> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: do you have the universe / multiverse repos enabled etc?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: do you have a PPA added for Xorg?
[15:06] <johnshaft> With Ubuntu tweak and xscreensaver installed I cannot lock screen
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: yes, you said that earlier........
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: and I saw it....hance me replying
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> johnshaft  ctrl-alt l ?
[15:07] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: NO , how do i enable them
[15:07] <dwakar> there's a ppa for xorg?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: use software centre, or uncomment the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[15:08] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: precise
[15:08] <johnshaft> Sorry monkeydust not even alt + l
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> johnshaft  ctrl-alt l   not just alt l
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: should be ok
[15:09] <designbybeck> Is there a way to see what hz you are running for your CPU? The sticker shows a Intel Core Duo... but how do I know the speed? like 2.9ghz
[15:09] <seednode> designbybeck: Use a program like CPU-z, speecy, etc
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> what's hz?
[15:10] <designbybeck> anything that is built into the terminal or that i don't have to download anything? seednode
[15:10] <designbybeck> Ghz Gigahertz
[15:10] <escott> designbybeck, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:11] <johnshaft> Both options don't lock ...
[15:11] <designbybeck> thank you escott that is the kind of info I was looking for
[15:11] <seednode> designbybeck: Oh, my bad, thought this was hardware; that's why I mentioned windows programs.
[15:12] <Eagleman> How would i nat a specific port of one of my virtual machines ( kvm ) with another port on the servers main ip address?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep GHz
[15:13] <Eagleman> pc>wan>server ( port 5000 ) > guest os ( port 4000 vnc ) > connection established
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !info speecy
[15:14] <TheEndIsNye> One day things will all be different
[15:14] <TheEndIsNye> One day things will all be different
[15:14] <TheEndIsNye> different
[15:14] <TheEndIsNye> different
[15:14] <FloodBot1> TheEndIsNye: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:15] <seednode> ActionParsnip: If that was about what I said, I meant speccy, and that's a windows utility
[15:15] <Fedot> hello i installed postfix on my server and roundcube courier imap/pop3 . roundcube work perfectly send emails outside but dont recive i get error 554 5.7.1 <root@mail.smarth.ro>: relay acced denied
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> TheEndIsNye: every day is different, it's called a calendar
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> seednode: this is Ubuntu support.....
[15:16] <Kingsy> how do you change the cpu frequency ?
[15:16] <Eagleman> pc>wan>server ( port 5000 ) > guest os ( port 4000 vnc ) > connection established
[15:16] <Miebster> What are some reasons why tab complete isn't showing me some of the executable in the folder I am looking at?  I know that if I type the full name of the executable it says "not found", so this is why it wont tab complete, but *why* is it not found?
[15:16] <jrib> Miebster: pastebin what's actually happening
[15:17] <escott> Miebster, executables not in $PATH need a full path to the executable. something like "./executable"
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: may work http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/indicator-cpufreq-cpu-frequency-scaling-indicator-applet
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> Miebster: also make sure the file is marked as executable
[15:18] <Fedot> hello i installed postfix on my server and roundcube courier imap/pop3 . roundcube work perfectly send emails outside but dont recive i get error 554 5.7.1 <root@mail.smarth.ro>: relay acced denied
[15:18] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: those look to be deadlinks
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[15:18] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: precise
[15:19] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: so the natty and maverick debs don't apply, and I don't really wanna build it seom source.
[15:19] <Kingsy> from*
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: let me search
[15:19] <Kingsy> wicked
[15:19] <Miebster> escott: yep that was it
[15:20] <Miebster> escott: thanks for being able to think like a noob
[15:20] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: looks like its in the repos
[15:20] <Eagleman> How would i nat a specific port of one of my virtual machines ( kvm ) with another port on the servers main ip address?
[15:20] <Eagleman> pc>wan>server ( port 5000 ) > guest os ( port 4000 vnc ) > connection established
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: cool
[15:20] <llutz> Fedot: have you an entry in main.cf like "mydestination = mail.smarth.ro" or did you configure virtual-domains and added that host/domain as valid for reception?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> !info indicator-cpufreq
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: sweet, get it in
[15:21] <TheEndIsNye> This will all be all be different
[15:21] <TheEndIsNye> different
[15:21] <TheEndIsNye> different
[15:21] <TheEndIsNye> This will all be all be different
[15:21] <FloodBot1> TheEndIsNye: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:21] <TheEndIsNye> different
[15:21] <TheEndIsNye> different
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> TheEndIsNye: please don't bother
[15:21] <llutz> Fedot: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[15:22] <Eagleman> where is the banhammer
[15:22] <compdoc> Eagleman, port forwarding isnt working for you?
[15:22] <Fedot> i dont have virtual domains
[15:22] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: kaboooom
[15:23] <Eagleman> compdoc the pc is directly connected to the internets
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: I'd let the kernel manage it, bit easier
[15:23] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: i already have universe,multiverse repos enabled. I used synaptic, and it says  xserver-xorg-dev : Depends: libxkbfile-dev but it is not going to be installed.
[15:23] <compdoc> yeah, but does the VM connect directly?
[15:23] <babilen> !ops TheEndIsNye
[15:24] <Pici> babilen: its already gone.
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: what if you try install the libxkbfile-dev yourself?
[15:24]  * babilen rubs his eyes
[15:25] <Eagleman> well that the problem i dont know how to set up the networking on my vm, currently its in its own virtual network ( 192.168.122.0 )
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: what are you using to virtualize?
[15:25] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: yeah, it just helps if you increase the frequency for flash videos
[15:25] <Eagleman> kvm with virt-manager
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: I use renice for that :)
[15:26] <compdoc> Eagleman, you need a bridge to allow the vm to participate on the lan
[15:26] <robinw> hello everyone
[15:26] <Eagleman> it needs to participate in the wan
[15:26] <Eagleman> i've had it working in the lan, it recieved an ip address from the dhcp server in the lan
[15:27] <robinw> I got a pretty noob question heh, how do I turn on my admin priviliges?
[15:27] <llutz> robinw: use sudo
[15:27] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: in synaptic it shows that libxkbfile-dev depends on libxkbfile1 (which is already installed)
[15:27] <robinw> ah u mean in terminal?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: can you at what version?
[15:27] <llutz> !sudo | robinw
[15:28] <robinw> Thx will read that, still very new with this
[15:28] <Eagleman> isnt it substitute user instead of super user?
[15:28] <RomeoAva> not working after remove the duplicates
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> robinw: you have admin access, just prefix commands that need it with the word 'sudo'
[15:28] <compdoc> Eagleman, well it doesnt have to, but it depends on how you have things set up. If you have a firewall on the host PC facing the WAN, you can get pretty creative
[15:28] <RomeoAva> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:28] <RomeoAva> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[15:28] <RomeoAva> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:28] <RomeoAva> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:28] <TheEndIsNye> Today things will all be different
[15:28] <TheEndIsNye> different
[15:28] <TheEndIsNye> different
[15:28] <Eagleman> haha
[15:28] <FloodBot1> TheEndIsNye: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:28] <llutz> Eagleman: "sudo, sudoedit - execute a command as another user"
[15:28] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: you have synaptic open already?
[15:28] <robinw> my problem was just that i wanted to delete a folder from my old home folder and couldent drag it to the bin heh
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: if you have updates installing, let them finish. Close any GUI package apps you have open
[15:28] <TheEndIsNye> Today things will all be different
[15:29] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: libxkbfile-dev : Depends: libxkbfile1 (= 1:1.0.7-1) but 1:1.0.7-1ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[15:29] <robinw> !Gksu
[15:29] <RomeoAva> I will be back in a few hours, thank you
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> robinw: run:  gksudo nautilus $HOME    and you can drag what you want
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> robinw: what is 'heh'?
[15:30] <Eagleman> compdoc i do have iptables but i am having problems setting it up
[15:30] <Nurgiel> ls
[15:30] <xyu> who
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: looks like you have the proposed repo enabled. Is that true?
[15:30] <xyu> whois sasasa
[15:30] <robinw> I think you actually know that ActionParsnip !
[15:31] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: I don
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> robinw: i have no idea, its not a file in bin....
[15:31] <robinw> ty for the help
[15:31] <dwakar> i don't know what that means
[15:31] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: Proposed repo?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: yes, gives access to newer versions of packages, it can cause issues
[15:32] <compdoc> I use a firewall running in a VM on one of my servers. I never had to learn iptables. The firewall allows different zones (red, green, blue, etc) and I can assign a zone to use an isolated virtual network where only one or two PCs listen
[15:32] <compdoc> PCs meaning VMs
[15:32] <compdoc> Eagleman  ^
[15:32] <xyu> whois ddd
[15:32] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: I think so, what should i do?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: disable the repo
[15:33] <xyu> ?
[15:33] <Eagleman> Well there is no such option with virt-manager
[15:33] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: that applet doesnt work, it could be because I am using xfce and not gnome, I never thought.
[15:33] <[snake]> does ubuntu speed down the hard drive when it's inactive?
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> compdoc  try #ubuntu-server
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: can you expand on 'doesn't work' please, its almost meaningless
[15:33] <ikonia> [snake]: depends on your hardware
[15:33] <compdoc> Eagleman, you have to set some things up manually
[15:34] <[snake]> ikonia, is there a way I can tell it not to? :D
[15:34] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: it doesnt appear in the list of items you can add to a panel. and its not in the application menu.
[15:34] <ikonia> [snake]: there is an option to sure, I certainly can't remember it off the top of my head.
[15:34] <mustafa_> renaming a file using command line
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: is it runnable as an app?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: use mv
[15:34] <mustafa_> anyideaa
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> mustafa_: mv name newname
[15:34] <harry__> Can someone help me find support for printing? I am using zorin, a ubuntu based distro. I would like to find the support page like this one but when I go #zorin there is only me there??? I cant believe there is only me ?
[15:34] <dawne> Is this the preferred method for setting a static wireless ip? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426270
[15:35] <[snake]> ikonia, yeah I can't find it though.... so idk what to do.
[15:35] <ikonia> [snake]: why do you need to do this ?
[15:35] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: no, if you run it from a terminal it just does nothing.
[15:35] <ikonia> [snake]: if the disk is not in use it's good to slow it / park it
[15:35] <Kingsy> nevermind I guess, its not really that important.
[15:35] <[snake]> ikonia, well it's being used, I'm syncronizing my bitcoin wallet for the first time.
[15:35] <ikonia> [snake]: then it won't spin it down
[15:36] <ikonia> [snake]: as it's in use
[15:36] <Miebster> So I am running ubuntu 10.05 and I need to get python 2.7 installed as a dev environment, this is what I ended up doing, is it bad/good? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427757/
[15:36] <[snake]> oh hm. ok thanks ikonia
[15:36] <incog> so linux has removed 386 support
[15:36] <ikonia> incog: no it's not
[15:37] <Toph2> harry__,,, try #ZorinOS
[15:37] <incog> those poor africans will be unable to boot ubuntu on our ewaste
[15:37] <ikonia> Miebster: depends if you trust that PPA
[15:37] <harry__> Toph2  thx
[15:37] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: so what should i do with libxkbfile1
[15:37] <Miebster> ikonia: its what the guys in #python recomended
[15:37] <lov> Hi, I've got a drive which I want to auto mount on a location that doesn't normally exist. Using the Disk Utility tool, the default effect of clicking "Mount Volume" is to mount it on /media/SSD, but when I try making an entry in /etc/fstab with a mount point of /media/SSD mount -a fails with "mount: mount point /media/SSD does not exist". What am I doing wrong in fstab?
[15:38] <jrib> lov: why don't you create the mount point?
[15:38] <Miebster> ikonia: hypothetically lets say I didn't, there is any "trusted" ppas with python 2.7.3 built again ubuntu 10.05 are there?
[15:38] <lov> jrib: I could do this, but I'm wondering if there's a flag that would auto-create it for me.
[15:39] <jrib> lov: no, not that I know of
[15:39] <ikonia> Miebster: ubuntu 10.04 (just a heads up) I'm not aware of any PPA for anything that I trust
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: once you remove the proposed repo, you should be able to just install it
[15:39] <ikonia> Miebster: the best thing is contact the guy who maintains the PPA and get an idea of what he's done and how keen he is to support you or anything that hangs off the PPA
[15:39] <[snake]> lov, perhaps the manual pages have an answer, man mount
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: not even the firefox team one?
[15:39] <lov> jrib: OK, odd. So Disk Utility actually creates the location to mount it onto?
[15:39] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no,
[15:39] <felix___> i accidently deleted needed stuff in /boot and now all kernel updates fail. is there a way to fix that?
[15:39] <[snake]> in terminal lov
[15:39] <lov> [snake]: I've looked at it, i didn't see anything relevant.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: fair play
[15:39] <[snake]> oh ok. Yeah I'd go with making the folder
[15:40]  * lov shrugs
[15:40] <lov> alright, I guess I'll do that. Thanks anyway.
[15:40] <[snake]> no problem
[15:40] <Jules_> Hi there,
[15:41] <Jules_> I have a problem.
[15:42] <Jules_> My hard disk is making a really annoying sound.
[15:42] <harry__> Doesnt make sence to me how Ubuntu can have over 1750 active users and Ubuntu based Zorin has only 7??  Is there any other active #for zorin other than the ZorinOs???  I cant get my printer to work
[15:42] <Jules_> It's only on Ubuntu, i don't have this problem with Windows 7/8
[15:42] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: can i do that with synaptic preferences, you know disabling the proposed repos
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> felix___: sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-generic linux-image-`uname -r`
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: not sure how, it is possible. I always use the sources.list file. I hate those GUI package apps, too slow for my tastes
[15:45] <Jules_> Is there anybody out there that can help me? That would be awesome.
[15:45] <harry__>  Doesnt make sence to me how Ubuntu can have over 1750 active users and Ubuntu based Zorin has only 7??  Is there any other active #for zorin other than the ZorinOs???  I cant get my printer to work and none of the 7 have responded in a while..  The system now sees the printer, I have jobs qued and the printer is green light and ready...  Still not printing
[15:45] <ikonia> harry__: you said that
[15:45] <ikonia> harry__: please take it to another channel
[15:46] <harry__> Ikonia  I added to it the problem details.
[15:46] <llaskin1> how can I kill the GUI from ubuntu?  I tried logging out, but it still brings me to the GUI...I'd like to have a differnt instance using the GUI, and can't startx on there till I kill the other X server...
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> harry__: if you use a distro with a smaller user base, you will get less support.
[15:46] <ikonia> harry__: yes, but we don't support Zorin here
[15:46] <ikonia> harry__: so we won't be helping
[15:46] <escott> Jules_, yes im sure there is someone out there who can help
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> harry__: why not install a real Ubuntu install and get the full support of the Ubutnu community.....
[15:47] <Jules_> Escott I hope so :)
[15:48] <harry__> I have ubuntu 12 on my machine.  Cant convince my friend to make the leap.  But he is getting there slowly.  Zorin is based completely off Ubunt so I figured the similarities may be close enough to help him out.
[15:48] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: is there a way to regenerate sources.list ?
[15:48] <ikonia> harry__: I'm sure you can help him then, or use the Zorin OS channel
[15:49] <TimFreeman> I like to use opie, which lets you log in without transmitting a reusable
[15:49] <TimFreeman> password.  It was present in Lucid, but apparently is not present in Precise.
[15:49] <TimFreeman> Does anyone know of some other one time password scheme that's present in
[15:49] <TimFreeman> Precise?  Is there some procedure I can use to get Opie into Precise?
[15:49] <FloodBot1> TimFreeman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:49] <harry__> Ikonia Well, before I waste anyones time, I would try the Zorin channel ya think?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: all you have to do is open the file in a text editor and comment out the 2 lines for the proposed repo....why do you need to regenerate anything at all...?
[15:49] <ikonia> harry__: good luck
[15:49] <gmachine_24> hi. to find the ip address, or local address of all computers connected to my home network, what do I do from the CLI?
[15:50] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: i don't think the problem is the proposed repo
[15:50] <harry__> Ikonia Thx... If you only knew what Ive been through getting him off windows, I'd get a medal. lol
[15:50] <Jules_> My hard disk is making a really anoying noise.
[15:50] <Jules_> It's only on Ubuntu.
[15:50] <escott> Jules_, then its probably failing and you need to replace it
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: then comment it out
[15:51] <gmachine_24> Jules_, so, got a question?
[15:51] <Jules_> But on Windows it doesn't make that sound.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: you will need:   gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      to get write access
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Jules_: does the system have a make and model?
[15:53] <escott> Jules_, its hard to imagine what Linux would be doing differently from windows that would cause a different sound. more likely ubuntu is located in a position on the disk that stresses the read heads and that is making the noise.
[15:53] <Jules_> ActionParsnip, no it doesn't.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Jules_: is it a desktop or a laptop?
[15:54] <Jules_> It's really weird. I know.
[15:54] <Jules_> Desktop
[15:55] <Jules_> It has 8 GB of RAM and a AMD FX 4100 processor.
[15:55] <dwakar> ActionParsnip: here's my sources.list http://pastie.org/5516436
[15:55] <seednode> Jules_: Hey, another Bulldozer victim!
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Jules_: have you tried the drive tester on the ultimate boot cd? It has the testers from the main drive manufacturers
[15:56] <Jules_> Nop, i didn't.
[15:56] <almoxarife> Jules_: i hear the same 'noise' if you want to call it that, not using win though, its the location of the partition on the drive, this one (install) is the quiet one, the other is much louder
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> dwakar: comment out 127 and 128, may help
[15:57] <circle> what's the difference between the 'less' and 'more' programs?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> circle: read the man pages ;)
[15:57] <Pici> circle: their features, read the manpages
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Jules_: it will test all the drive, if you hear a noise partway then you know the score :)
[15:58] <escott> Jules_, almoxarife, any kind of clicking noise from a disk should be a cause for concern.
[15:58] <Jules_> but it's a little crazy.
[15:59] <Jules_> I installed only Windows 8
[15:59] <Jules_> No  problems.
[15:59] <Jules_> Even if i run just the live disk. It gives that noise.
[15:59] <almoxarife> escott: no clicking here, so whine either, chirping though, mice?
[16:00] <escott> Jules_, it is a physical device. and can fail in physically different locations at different times. if the OSes are in those different locations you may here it from one and not the other
[16:00] <felix___> is there a way to cleanup old, failed installs?
[16:00] <llaskin1> how can I kill the GUI from ubuntu?  I tried logging out, but it still brings me to the GUI...I'd like to have a differnt instance using the GUI, and can't startx on there till I kill the other X server...
[16:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> and hello irc!
[16:01] <Jules_> Hmm, i my PC is just 3 months old.
[16:01] <almoxarife> felix___: clean how? explain
[16:01] <gmachine_24> hi. to find the ip address, or local address of all computers connected to my home network, what do I do from the CLI?
[16:01] <escott> Jules_, failures are very common for new disks. you should check the smart status in the disk utility
[16:02] <Jules_> Sow i think im gonna call the store.
[16:02] <escott> gmachine_24, you can ping all the computers but they are not obligated to respond
[16:02] <almoxarife> gmachine_24: you could install and run 'nmap'
[16:02] <Jules_> I will, im at the moment running Elementary OS. That's based on Ubuntu.
[16:02] <Jules_> Sow i don't know how i can find it there/
[16:03] <phunyguy_work> gmachine_24, the arp command may work as well if your PC has spoken with the devices recently.
[16:03] <felix___> almoxarife: nvm apt-get autoremove does the trick
[16:04] <phunyguy_work> arp -a to list cached arp entries
[16:04] <phunyguy_work> (IIRC)
[16:04] <gmachine_24> sudo arp -a
[16:04] <gmachine_24> ?
[16:04] <phunyguy_work> no sudo needed.
[16:05] <phunyguy_work> actually just arp works.
[16:05] <ikonia> you will not find all devices with arp
[16:05] <kdsmain> if i just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts and I want to set my computer up as a server, will I be able to follow the 12.04 lts server edition guide?
[16:05] <phunyguy_work> ikonia, thats what I said.
[16:05] <phunyguy_work> "if your PC has spoken with the device recently"
[16:06] <almoxarife> !nmap
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> and I offered it as an alternative method.
[16:06] <ikonia> nmap won't do it
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> !info nmap
[16:06] <almoxarife> ikonia: wont do what?
[16:06] <Robbilie> can yomeone tell me where to find jono?
[16:06] <phunyguy_work> !info jono
[16:06] <mustafa_> my ubuntu indicate that there is internal error with the system what should i do
[16:06] <ikonia> scan the whole network and give you a list of IP addresses/hostname mapping (it won't do mapping reliable)
[16:07] <phunyguy_work> also by gmachine_24's wording, I assume he needs mac.
[16:07] <kdsmain> anyone know if the 12.04 lts server guide will work sufficiently well for 12.04 desktop?
[16:07] <magpii> whwnever i minimize a window, it disapears, how do i restore the default bottom panal?
[16:07] <ikonia> kdsmain: depends what you are doing
[16:08] <kdsmain> or if there is a good channel for setting up a server?
[16:08] <escott> kdsmain, apt-get install ubuntu-server
[16:08] <almoxarife> ikonia: ok, is there something that does a better job than nmap?, the nick wanted something cli
[16:08] <kdsmain> is ubuntu-server a different OS?
[16:08] <ikonia> almoxarife: I really don't think so, tools such as nmap depend on machines responding, you'd do network mapping at a network device level
[16:08] <ikonia> kdsmain: no
[16:08] <gandhijee_> hello, is there a way to change the color depth in ubuntu without having to edit the xorg.conf file?
[16:09] <mustafa_> my ubuntu indicate that there is internal error with the system what should i do any idea
[16:09] <kdsmain> #ikonia: ok thanks
[16:09] <ikonia> mustafa_: what errors ?
[16:09] <almoxarife> mustafa_: what error?
[16:09] <phunyguy_work> !patience
[16:10] <mustafa_> i dont know really hes just telling me that hes experience an internal error
[16:10] <ikonia> mustafa_: where is it telling you this ?
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> ikonia, must be the "Ubuntu has detected an internal error" popup.
[16:11] <ikonia> never seen it
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> mustafa_, click "more information if you can, please"
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> err
[16:11] <phunyguy_work> mustafa_, click "more information" if you can, please
[16:12] <phunyguy_work> or show details, going off memory... it should tell you the failing application.
[16:12] <mustafa_> some pop up window just appered telling me report a problem
[16:12] <mustafa_> problem type crash
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  that's apparmor
[16:14] <mustafa_> saying apport vrsion 2.6.1 ubuntu 3
[16:14] <hid> Hi I'm looking for a software which allow you to see and edit (or not) video metadata.
[16:14] <mustafa_> title :evaluation -calender -factory crashed with sigabrt
[16:15] <mustafa_> title :evaluation -calender -factory crashed with sigabrt
[16:16] <mustafa_> i have been having this problem a few days for now
[16:16] <mustafa_> its telling me to send error report
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> mustafa_  i had that too, in the beginning, it stopped after a few days, dunno what caused it
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> dunno = don't know   <- sorry
[16:18] <mustafa_> It have been afew days from now
[16:19] <joey8> hid:  what have uou tried so far
[16:19] <wizard`> if I change my password on a server, do I need to regenerate an rsa certificate for ssh with rsa to work?
[16:19] <mustafa_> some times when iam start the system and some times it takes a while to appear
[16:19] <mustafa_> iam using ubuntu 12.10
[16:20] <wizard`> i recently changed the password, and now I can only seem to connect via password only
[16:20] <llaskin1> does anyone have experience making the jenkins user(a user created by installing jenkins) acccess to the GUI on the machine/X windows?
[16:20] <llaskin1> I'm trying, but can't get that username for some reason to show up int he login list...
[16:20] <somsip> llaskin1: how are you installing jenkins?
[16:21] <somsip> llaskin1: hang on - you want to login as jenkins user?
[16:21] <llaskin1> yes somsip, i do.
[16:21] <llaskin1> he has rvm installed for his user
[16:21] <llaskin1> and I would like to be able to run stuff in the GUI to test it as hiim to see why I am having some of the issues I am...
[16:21] <joey8> what happens if there is already a user called jenkins
[16:21] <mustafa_> what any one have any idea why its happening
[16:21] <hid> joey8 : Checked the settings with nautilus, opened it with vlc but there were not all the metadata.
[16:21] <llaskin1> joey8 there isnt.
[16:22] <somsip> llaskin1: not sure why you need to do that. If I have to use jenkins user I sudo -i; su jenkins
[16:22] <llaskin1> right
[16:22] <llaskin1> but when I try to run firefox frmo the terminal, it dies
[16:22] <llaskin1> cuz it can't access the correct display for it when I try to have selenium start firefox when logged in as jenkins via ruby.
[16:23] <somsip> llaskin1: you using framebuffer X display thingy?
[16:23] <mustafa_> any one know what is the most stable ubuntu version to use it as a server
[16:23] <llaskin1> no no
[16:23] <llaskin1> the box I am logging into it is a physical ubuntu box on my desk
[16:23] <llaskin1> it has a user on it, which is the main user "llaskin"
[16:23] <somsip> llaskin1: it's running X already?
[16:23] <joey8> hid:  try http://grigio.org/
[16:23] <llaskin1> somsip: yes.
[16:24] <llaskin1> its running ubuntu12.04 which boots into X when I reboot the machine...
[16:24] <somsip> llaskin1: worked fine for me with 12.04 desktop and on a headless server. What method to install jenkins? PPA?
[16:25] <llaskin1> this has little to do with jenkins other then the fact that I want jenkins to be able to login to ubuntu desktop
[16:25] <llaskin1> somsip:  you were able to login as jenkins user from this screen: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WE3KdvhtQCY/T5ZmI4TyDpI/AAAAAAAAIqc/BuD1Ehsk9XE/s1600/ubuntu12.04-login-screen.png ?
[16:25] <llaskin1> (or a similar looking screen?)
[16:25] <mustafa_> any one with any idea why is my system reporting an internal error
[16:26] <escott> mustafa_, without knowing what the error is. no
[16:26] <somsip> llaskin1: I've had no need to do that. Jenkins runs as a service. I access the web interface
[16:27] <K1rk> Would anyone happen to have any input on my LightDM question?  ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2092461
[16:27] <mustafa_> just a question i s not upgrading the system creates an ibselete packages
[16:28] <Guest92298> hi guys
[16:28] <Evolution> is it possible to install ubuntu using a vnc connection? I've got a videocard that the default driver absolutely hates.
[16:28] <mustafa_> obsolete packages
[16:28] <hid> joey8 : I'm already struggling with English so Spanish...
[16:28] <Guest92298> does anyone know how to enter console when playing cs 1.6 in wine
[16:29] <hid> joey8 : What's the name of the software ?
[16:29] <joey8> hid:  extract from reeleso.com..... If you're a Linux user a good program to do this looks to be XMP Manager. While the software is still in development from what I read, it looks to directly edit a large number of formats.
[16:30] <RickZilla> I downloaded virtualbox last night, but haven't taken it through the paces yet...any advice/words of wisdom before I get started?
[16:30] <somsip> llaskin1: anyway, doesn't selenium run the browser, and if you/root are running selenium it will have access to the display
[16:31] <somsip> llaskin1: oh - you didn't mention selenium. My assumption maybe...
[16:34] <halvors> May anyone update the roundcibe package to the latest version?  0.8.4 http://www.roundcube.net/
[16:37] <llaskin1> somsip yes i know...i'm having some issues which are ubuntu specific, but I need to login as jenkins to somewhere so I can run firefox as the jenkins user
[16:39] <hid> joey : thank you
[16:39] <joey8> hid: yw
[16:40] <scarrs> I have a slight problem.... I cannot figure out where to copy my .pak files fo run quake3 and quake 3 server... I am setting up a quake3 dedicated server. help pls?
[16:41] <escott> scarrs, should be /usr/games/quake something
[16:41] <scarrs> ty
[16:41] <gmachine_24> RickZilla, I did a test run of virtualbox a couple weeks ago. It was easy. Try it and if you have ? check back in.
[16:42] <RickZilla> gmachine_24 Thanks for the response. Do I have to have a valid copy of Win to use it?
[16:43] <kenny__> RickZilla, yes
[16:43] <gmachine_24> RickZilla, yes.
[16:43] <RickZilla> k, I thought as much...good to know, and I'll try it out this weekend.
[16:44] <gmachine_24> But I only ran it on Linux
[16:44] <RickZilla> Thanks for the responses
[16:44] <RickZilla> Does it have to be a copy of Win not already installed elsewhere? ie, another machine in the home
[16:45] <Kroach> is there a way to get width of the gnome-terminal from the command line?
[16:49] <Robbilie> anybody with a nexus 7 here?
[16:50] <randomness> im trying to install this .dep file but it says.. dependency is not satisfiable: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[16:50] <randomness> .deb*
[16:50] <RickZilla> Robbili: Not yet, but I hear 13.4 is pretty boss on it
[16:50] <joey8> i have to install a 32bit debian linux file and it the filename is aaa.pkg (note no "d"). Does anyone know how to install it please
[16:51] <Robbilie> i dont have nor want a n7 but i need a log :D
[16:51] <randomness> can someone help me understand what that means?
[16:51] <doomgiver> in top, compiz is using up 117% cpu o.O
[16:51] <doomgiver> is this "normal"?
[16:52] <randomness> doomgiver: maybe try a different graphics driver
[16:52] <doomgiver> on a i5,
[16:52] <doomgiver> hmm
[16:52] <randomness> no it's not normal
[16:53] <randomness> randomness: instead of looking at top open up system monitor and see if it says the same thing
[16:53] <randomness> oops doomgiver i mean - sry got a buzz ;p
[16:53] <escott> Kroach, $COLUMNS
[16:54] <doomgiver> how do i open system monitor?
[16:54] <doomgiver> quantal quetzal
[16:54] <Kroach> escott: Thank you
[16:54] <halvors> I get an error from dovecot, and can't figure out how to fix it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427860/
[16:56] <doomgiver> ok, i found system monitor...
[16:56] <longshot7> how do you open a USB thumbdrive in Ubuntu 12.10??
[16:57] <myhero_> exit
[16:57] <ceed^> Hi, I would like to get rid off all the "a system program has crashed do you want to report it" stuff. I get those and there's nothhing wrong with my system, and even if there is some crash somewhere I do not care and do not have time to mess with it.
[16:58] <doomgiver> randomness: ok, one of the cpu cores is always at 100%
[16:58] <doomgiver> i mean, the load shifts between cores, but at least one od the is always at 100%
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> ceed^  try this http://ubuntuguide.net/disable-apport-error-reporting-in-ubuntu-12-10
[17:00] <llutz> halvors: you have set something like "mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir" which expands to /var/www/Maildir for user www-data, but that directory (/var/www) is owned root:root 755, so dovecots delivery agent (lda) has no permission to store mails there.
[17:01] <Bitcho> hi people
[17:02] <llutz> halvors: http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailLocation  shows you some ideas how to fix that (per-user mail location, homeless-users). but you really should check if www-data needs to receive mails at all
[17:02] <gmachine_24> longshot7, when you plug in the usb thumb drive it doesn't show up automatically I'm assuming?
[17:03] <bambino> do anyone know a good sound normalizaer for mp3 in ubuntu?
[17:04] <ckhakeem108> exit
[17:05] <oskar-> bambino:  mp3gain sounds good ;)
[17:05] <bambino> oskar thanks
[17:14] <DanielX42> Hey, I'm an ubuntu newbie. I want to edit id3tags with id3v2 and sometimes I get weird (chinese) letters as tags. But only on my testserver not on my ubuntu computer at home. I set locale first to us-utf8 and then de-utf8 but no change. Is it possible that id3v2 runs under another locale setting? Can I change this somehow?
[17:19] <bieb> I am putting together a test webserver to check out Word Press.. does the alternated CD have webserver install?
[17:19] <bobweaver> bieb,  any reason why alternative and not server image ?
[17:20] <bieb> bobweaver: I didnt look for server install.. I have the alternate CD image already.. I will go grab the server.. thanks
[17:21] <Fohlen> hey out there, i have a problem with python and ubuntu12.10
[17:21] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  could you please give us more details? like I am trying to do X but X happens when I do X
[17:21] <oskar-> Fohlen:  I have one with Python in general ;-)  (I guess, we need details!)
[17:21] <Fohlen> i've installed python and python-dev and tryed to compile a c binding, but it failed and cant find Python.h
[17:21] <Fohlen> was writing :D
[17:22] <Fohlen> btw it cant find the declarations
[17:23] <Fohlen> I get errors like this: Function not defined: »bool SbPy::triggerFuncEvent(const char*, std::vector<_object*>*, PyObject*)«:
[17:23] <bobweaver> what version of py ?
[17:23] <Fohlen> 2.7
[17:23] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  you installed with apt or source ?
[17:23] <DanielX42> Is there any language setting except locale in ubuntu?
[17:23] <Fohlen> apt
[17:23] <myhero> while installing openssh-server it is suggesting some other packages also namely rssh molly-guard openssh-blacklist openssh-blacklist-extra monkeysphere packages and these packages are not getting installed on their own as being suggestive packages......but when i am installing them by "sudo apt-get install rssh molly-guard openssh-blacklist openssh-blacklist-extra monkeyshere" then these are gettting installed saying that "Package rssh is not available, but 
[17:23] <myhero> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[17:23] <myhero> is only available from another source
[17:24] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  try to install python via tar.ball   or what happens when you run    "locate Python.h"  can you find it ?
[17:24] <Fohlen> i can find it
[17:24] <Fohlen> thats the shame :/
[17:24] <bobweaver> Fohlen, then DL tar bar
[17:24] <Fohlen> its located where it should be
[17:24] <bobweaver> http://python.org/ftp/python/2.7.2/Python-2.7.2.tar.bz2
[17:25] <Fohlen> sure that will fix it? or maybe just say gcc to use the version?
[17:25] <Fohlen> i think it's a problem on linking
[17:25] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  take a look at this yet ?  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8282231/ubuntu-i-have-python-but-gcc-cant-find-python-h
[17:25] <myhero> how to install these and are these packages necessary at all ? blacklist nad blacklist-extra packages however are available for installation thrrough software center but when oe has to install through software center then why will anybody use apt-get install command ....
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> myhero  try apt-get install rssh by itself, not as part of a list
[17:25] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ^^
[17:26] <myhero> MonkeyDust: same error with package 'rssh' has no installation canndidate
[17:26] <banda> how can i find out why these packages are being held back when i $ sudo apt-get upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/1427956/
[17:26] <nongoogle> ubuntu keeps reverting a script to unwriteable on a boot stick
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> myhero  try sudo apt-get update, first
[17:27] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ok
[17:27] <Fohlen> bobweaver, i gonna try that
[17:27] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  you could try having gcc being a different version. but 1st run     sudo find / -name '[Pp]ython.h'  fi it does not find it then the header filr is not installed or called something else
[17:27] <oskar-> nongoogle:  does the underlying file system know of the set permissions?
[17:27] <myhero> MonkeyDust: btw rssh is important and necessary or it can be left ? what work does it do ?
[17:27] <Fohlen> bobweaver, i think it is installed
[17:27] <llutz> myhero: packages "suggested" might be usefull but aren't necessary
[17:28] <banda> the gui upgrade manager wants to install the packages but apt-get is holding them back? mostly kernel upgrades?
[17:28] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  then run command looking for header file
[17:28] <Fohlen> it just doesnt links to the Python.h
[17:28] <Fohlen> thats my fucking problem :/
[17:28] <nongoogle> dunno oskar-
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> myhero  i didnt k now it existed and never missed it, i use rsync and ssh
[17:29] <burg> hello. i have some programmable keys on my keyboard. how can i bind some actions to them in ubuntu?
[17:29] <bobweaver> whoa language there partner this is a family channel Fohlen  (but I understand furstration )
[17:29] <h00k> Fohlen: please keep the cursing not in this channel
[17:29] <jrib> banda: are you using "apt-get upgrade" instead of "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[17:29] <bobweaver> burg,  open dash type in keyboard and go to the shortcuts page
[17:29] <myhero> MonkeyDust: throw some light on rsync
[17:29] <banda> jrib yeah should i do dist-upgrade?
[17:29] <oskar-> nongoogle:  see the filesystem in the output of "mount". e.g. vfat does not support it...
[17:30] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | banda
[17:30] <burg> bobweaver: thank you
[17:30] <banda> jrib thanks man
[17:30] <jrib> banda: yes, dist-upgrade will let packages change dependencies (which is how the kernel upgrades work)
[17:30] <bobweaver> np burg  enjoy :)
[17:31] <nongoogle> i got vfat
[17:31] <nongoogle> oskar-
[17:31] <oskar-> ok
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> myhero  is similar to cp, but more versatile
[17:32] <myhero> MonkeyDust: rsync ?
[17:32] <doomgiver> whats that software called, that displays data on the descktop "wallpapaer", i hope you understand... that is used to see system info... its modifiable and criptable, i forget its name
[17:32] <devjustforfun> people what's that mean: bash: type: write error: Broken pipe
[17:32] <llutz> doomgiver: conky
[17:32] <doomgiver> yeah!!!
[17:32] <myhero> MonkeyDust: if yes then does it has a gui or its same terminal based ?
[17:32] <jrib> !conky | doomgiver
[17:32] <doomgiver> thanks!
[17:32] <bobweaver> doomgiver,  screenlets ?
[17:33] <jrib> I swear that used to exist...
[17:33] <doomgiver> thats it, i totally forgot its name
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> myhero  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[17:33] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ok
[17:34] <winb> !apt-get
[17:34] <myhero> MonkeyDust: whats the difference in speed between active and passive modes ?
[17:34] <myhero> MonkeyDust: of ftp or ssh ?
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> myhero  best were to read about it, that's how I learned it
[17:37] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ok
[17:37] <py_can> dear ubuntu support could you get new mpd versions?
[17:37] <py_can> that or not buggy
[17:37] <jrib> py_can: buggy how?
[17:37] <bobweaver> no but you can
[17:38] <max999> hi evryone, im struggling with an ubuntu fork on my acer aspire one 756 - it seems to randomly power off (with always the same few applications for mobile internet and rdp sessions running). i did run a ram check (memtest86+) over night with no errors.. heat seems to be no matter too :)
[17:38] <py_can> jrib: idk, #mpd send me here to ask
[17:38] <py_can> because they dont support/do not help me with my problem
[17:38] <bobweaver> !info mpd
[17:38] <py_can> correct.
[17:38] <jrib> py_can: well are you experiencing a particular bug that's been reported but fixed in a version later than what's in ubuntu?
[17:38] <bobweaver> py_can,  this is a dbus runner ?
[17:38] <myhero> quit
[17:39] <py_can> jrib: no idea, I cant get output to an icecast server
[17:39] <py_can> bobweaver: not sure what that is
[17:39] <L3mce> max999: what does it say about your battery?
[17:39] <Fohlen> bobweaver, compiled it, still not running
[17:39] <bobweaver> py_can,  it is what deamons use sometimes to talk like with libdee on dbus. Like how unity uses it to listen to say lens and scopes that are python
[17:39] <max999> l3mce: how to check? its happening when attached to wire too
[17:40] <Varazir> Hello I have made a script to run on up start http://pastebin.ca/2291905 I get error  /proc/self/fd/9: 18: [: on: unexpected operatorif I run the script by it self like this http://pastebin.ca/2291900 it works
[17:40] <py_can> bobweaver: hmm ok
[17:40] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  and you found the py header file and included it to the whatever it is that you are compiling ?
[17:40] <py_can> bobweaver: to answer your question, no idea
[17:40] <L3mce> max999: the native utility under settings will evaluate its health... but if it happens when plugged in... it is something else.
[17:40] <bobweaver> py_can,  sorry I know nothing about mdwhatever
[17:40] <py_can> :) np
[17:41] <Fohlen> hmm bobweaver
[17:41] <max999> l3mce: there are no kernel errors or other error messages in the logs i checked (dmesg and var log syslog stuff) :l
[17:41] <Fohlen> i'll check whats wrong
[17:41] <L3mce> max999: Sounds like a hardware problem... have you run another os?
[17:41] <lawltoad> hi lets say i have machines A and B behind a firewall, and an open computer C at home. I want to run an ssh tunnel from B that opens a port on C that forwards to A. any help?
[17:41] <max999> l3mce: not yet. could help. the memtest did run for like 12 hours without problems.
[17:42] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  you read the full page and not just part of it ? like the part that says you need python-dev installed ?
[17:42] <max999> l3mce: sometimes its up for a few hours sometimes it goes down within minutes.. no matter what i do on it
[17:42] <Fohlen> bobweaver i allready installed it...
[17:42] <L3mce> max999: yeah... forgot that... however on ubuntu it will not ever go 12 hrs without powering off?
[17:42] <Fohlen> i get errors like "bla is not defined"
[17:42] <Fohlen> seems like it includes 3.2 header files
[17:42] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  pastebin ?
[17:43] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  or do you have a trunk for code ?
[17:43] <Fohlen> i have
[17:43] <jrib> Varazir: is use of "until" documented somewhere?
[17:43] <bobweaver> branch trynk wahtever
[17:43] <Fohlen> http://xsbs.greghaynes.net/
[17:43] <Fohlen> just try to compile
[17:43] <Fohlen> http://paste.kde.org/624260/
[17:43] <Fohlen> i get this error
[17:43] <Fohlen> seems like a wrong linking, but I dont get why :/
[17:43] <max999> l3mce: on my ubuntu fork i think it never made 12 hours yet :) probably 3-4.
[17:44] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  brb on phone
[17:44] <Varazir> jrib: I haven't checked, I thought it was strait forward shell script
[17:44] <Fohlen> kthx, cya
[17:44] <jrib> Varazir: see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ .  Also, try #upstart
[17:45] <jonny__> Need a little help with /home/user-directory on Ubuntu Server 12.10... Have set up as Server NAS with Ubuntu running on CompactFlash card and 2TB storage on raid1. Running "adduser" sets up new accounts on /home/new_user_here but how can I make it so that it sets it up on the raid instead /mnt/md0/ ?
[17:45] <Guest74405> hi can someone help me
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> Guest74405  start with a question
[17:46] <Guest74405> how to enter console in cs1.6 in wine
[17:46] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  look at error in compile see the "pycontrol/sbpy.cpp"  make sure that you are importing the right libs for it to decalre its self ?  maybe that is that is all I see
[17:47] <Fohlen> bobweaver, I thought that too
[17:47] <Fohlen> the fuck is, under my old ubuntu it worked :/
[17:47] <Fohlen> :D
[17:47] <Fohlen> thats why I'm asking
[17:47] <max999> Guest74405: isnt it ^?
[17:47] <FloodBot1> Fohlen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <Pici> Fohlen: Please mind your language here.
[17:47] <jrib> jonny__: if you always want to have /mnt/md0 serve as /home, then you can just mount it to /home instead.  If you just want this particular user to have his home in /mnt/md0, then you can pass --home to adduser
[17:47] <bobweaver> Fohlen,  what Pici  that is last warnning
[17:47] <u01010> can i use ubuntuone in fedora 17?
[17:47] <jpds> FloodBot1: Looks like a programming error.
[17:48] <jpds> Fohlen: You'll have to talk to the code writer.
[17:48] <Fohlen> k
[17:48] <jonny__> jrib: Thanks! Would you recommend one over the other?
[17:48] <bobweaver> Fohlen, open up that file and just make sure that inculde dirs are there and they where not re-named if that is ok like jrib  contact upstream devs
[17:48] <Guest74405> max999: i dont know where is that button
[17:48] <Guest74405> im noob
[17:49] <max999> Guest74405: you could check in settings too i guess
[17:49] <max999> Guest74405: try the key left from "1!
[17:49] <jrib> jonny__: both are reasonable solutions, depends on what you want to do
[17:50] <Guest74405> when i enter the game console atomaticly opens and when i press ` it closes but wont open again
[17:50] <jrib> jonny__: by the way, if you choose to mount md0 as /home, then you'll want to copy the existing files in /home to it
[17:50] <Guest74405> max999: thats it but it doesnt work
[17:51] <u01010> Hi, can i use ubuntuone in fedora?
[17:51] <max999> Guest74405: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1116188
[17:51] <bgo> need some advice regarding touchpad two-finger tap action on ubuntu 12.04.  i have been able to change the synclient settings TapButton2=2, and it's working fine on closing tabs as well as opening my bookmarks in a new tab. however, when i use the same action (two-finger tap simulating a middle-mouse-click) on webpage hyperlinks, it does not do anything at all, and i have to resort to using right-click and selecting "open in new tab". any good ad
[17:51] <bgo> vise on how i should fix this?
[17:51] <Guest74405> u01010: yes you can
[17:51] <llutz> u01010: you can http://www.maxiberta.com.ar/blog/ubuntuone-packages-fedora
[17:52] <Guest74405> max999: thanks ill try it
[17:54] <stream> Hi, Can I get the only ip-address from the dhcp-server, ignoring the other parameters from the server? What needs to change in dhcpclient?
[17:55] <Guest20264> hi
[17:55] <stream> on ubuntu 11.10
[17:56] <llutz> stream: edit the "request", remove all those parameters you don't want
[17:56] <llutz> stream: in dhclient.conf it is
[17:57] <stream> llutz, thx
[17:58] <killer> libjack-dev package in ubuntu?
[17:58] <jonny__> jrib: I see. I think mounting /md0 to /home makes for a more fluid solution going forward. Thanks so much for your input! :)
[17:58]  * killer tried sudo apt-get build-dep vlc
[17:58] <Guest20264> ni1 hw to hack FB accnt
[17:58] <jpds> Guest20264: Ha, not here.
[17:58] <Guest20264> wat u mean
[17:59] <Guest20264> not here..
[17:59] <Pici> Guest20264: we don't support illegal things here.
[18:00] <Guest20264> kkkkkkkkk..no prblm..
[18:00] <killer> and it's offtopic too ...lol :Guest20264
[18:00] <Guest20264> yeah..u r ryt..
[18:00] <Guest20264> ni1 knw whr can i get dis info..
[18:00] <OerHeks> Guest20264,  facebook knows your ip now.
[18:01] <Guest20264> huh..dnt talk non sense..
[18:01] <DJones> Guest20264: Its not supported in this channel, don't ask again
[18:01] <rosevp> question connecting to remote ubunto using Xming
[18:01] <Guest20264> kkkkk..
[18:01] <Guest20264> ovr n out..
[18:02] <rosevp> keep getting "Hung in XOpenDisplay"
[18:02] <BluesKaj> Guest20264 , and speak proper English ,this isn't a text or IM channel
[18:02] <Guest20264> okkkkkk..m leavin bro..
[18:03] <Important_Questi> Hello, i have a question about the installtion of ubuntu
[18:03] <Aelingil> I am trying to have an alias command show "text" then "Command".. Example alias krn "Kernel" uname -r  Every time i try it, i get an error telling me after "Kerne" it cannot run the command. Is there a different way to show text next to a command?
[18:03] <BluesKaj> Important_Questi, just ask your question
[18:04] <Important_Questi> ok
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> Important_Questi  let's hear it
[18:04] <Important_Questi> I want to try ubuntu
[18:04] <Important_Questi> and when i install it on a usb stick
[18:04] <Important_Questi> will it write some things to my laptop?
[18:04] <Important_Questi> i wnat only to try
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Important_Questi  no
[18:05] <Important_Questi> sry for my bad english
[18:05] <Important_Questi> so it doesnt write anything to my harddrive?
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Important_Questi  simply install it on a stick and then boor from that stick - use netbootin or so
[18:05] <Important_Questi> really NOTHING?
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> boot*
[18:07] <Important_Questi> i wnat to keep my harddrive clean
[18:07] <Important_Questi> when you are right i will try ubuntu
[18:07] <Jordan_U> Aelingil: display_kernel() { echo -n 'Kernel: '; uname -r; }
[18:08] <Aelingil> Jordan_U, I will try that, thank you
[18:08] <Jordan_U> Aelingil: You're welcome.
[18:08] <Jav77> can anyone help me change the size of my display? its not a resolution problem, its a tv size issue. system settings shows its a 72", when it isn't
[18:09] <gulag2012> Hi. I was installed a program called click&clean in Firefox, it allows you to run bleachbit after firefox closes. How can I get it to execute. I directed it towards /usr/bin/bleachbit. It
[18:09] <gulag2012> It's asking me for an Argument?
[18:09] <Jav77> i am using nvidia drivers and there isn't an option to overscan or underscan
[18:09] <K1rk> Is there a LightDM PPA available to install newer versions of LightDM on Ubuntu Precise?
[18:09] <Important_Questi> thanks for your help
[18:09] <Important_Questi> bye
[18:13] <escott> Aelingil, you need a bash function for that
[18:13] <urthmover> off topic. Does anyone have a nice way to stream all their youtube  subscriptions through vlc.  without gabbing the link from each one?  Is  there a playlist generator or something?
[18:13] <Catbuntu> hi
[18:14] <savantelite> hello
[18:14] <savantelite> -help
[18:14] <escott> gulag2012, programs like bleachbit don't work on many modern filesystems
[18:15] <gulag2012> Huh? I have working. I just don't know how to get it to run like an executable like windows.
[18:15] <RickZilla> savantelite: Just ask a question
[18:15] <escott> gulag2012, you should configure your firefox to place temp files and such in a tmpfs folder
[18:15] <escott> gulag2012, probably doesn't do what you want on NTFS either.
[18:16] <escott> gulag2012, you should just create a tmpfs filesystem mount point and point ~/.firefox there
[18:16] <gulag2012> I have ext4 on all partitions. Bleachbit runs if I execute it. How can I get a program to run it?
[18:16] <FerkSwe> When did Irc support get removed from Empathy?
[18:17] <Jav77> help please
[18:17] <mIRC> sera
[18:18] <mIRC> !list
[18:18] <kenlik> i need some help to configure the D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen in ubuntu. Anyone have some tips to start the configuration?
[18:18] <almoxarife> gulag2012: a program?
[18:19] <OerHeks> kenlik, if you don't get responce, try #ubuntu-touch here on #freenode
[18:20] <escott> gulag2012, if you are determined to run this bleachbit thing (which seems really silly from a security perspective) you would need to have a daemon that checks running processes looking for firefox-bin, or you could modify the /usr/bin/firefox script to not disown the firefox-bin subprocess and run bleachbit after firefox completes
[18:20] <gulag2012> Yes, I installed a firefox addon called click&clean. It would launch janitor just fine. I don't know how to get it to trigger bleachbit. I have the command as /usr/bin/bleachbit. I don't know what to give it for an argument.
[18:21] <nongoogle> how do i reformat a bootstick to something not lacking functionality on both linux or other os
[18:21] <egadw> When will Ubuntu make the shift to systemd?
[18:21] <nongoogle> something i don't have a problem with executing scripts on
[18:21] <escott> egadw, not anytime soon'
[18:21] <wachpwnski> you know how you have to press ctrl+shift then c or p or t
[18:22] <wachpwnski> In the terminal? How can you get rid of the shift binding?
[18:22] <seednode> Speaking as a systemd user: I personally have liked it and had no issues, but other people seem to have had some
[18:22] <wachpwnski> so you have to change the stty bindings first?
[18:23] <egadw> escott: too bad :(
[18:23] <javier__> can anyone help me change the size of my display for a television reporting the wrong size on nvidia 304.64
[18:26] <Ari_Ari> Hi, I´m new on ubuntu, I have an Ubuntu Server with apache2, I have an application running, it was working fine, but I have move it to a new location, and now I can access from any compuert to the application only using the IP address, I cannot use anymore the server name
[18:27] <BluesKaj> javier__, have you checked systemsettings>display & monitor>size & orientation ... I have to ask the obvious first
[18:27] <escott> Ari_Ari, your router (or whatever provides DNS) needs to be updated
[18:28] <javier__> yes. it says monitor is 72". its not
[18:28] <BluesKaj> what about the resolution , javier__?
[18:28] <alo21> hi..
[18:29] <alo21> where is the html file of firefox's stratpage?
[18:29] <alo21> startpage*
[18:29] <javier__> i am also using gnome shell
[18:30] <ClientAlive> is /opt really the best place to install eclipse. Don't want the older version in the repos. Had problems with current eclipse install. #eclipse pretty dead right now. Anyone?
[18:30] <Ari_Ari> escott, i think that the router needs to be updated, but I have been waiting for 3 days
[18:30] <Ari_Ari> and I have way to access using the name
[18:30] <ClientAlive> *have problems*
[18:30] <Ari_Ari> the DNS servers refhresh every day
[18:31] <BluesKaj> javier__, which nvidia card ?
[18:31] <nitzer> hey! i'm having trouble with my usb remobavle devices being recognized while plugged in ... any idea what could be?
[18:31] <javier__> geforce gt640
[18:33] <javier__> and in the NVIDIA X Server settings I have no way to change the monitor scaling, so I am stuck
[18:34] <ClientAlive> thx anyway. I gotta do something about this.
[18:38] <javier__> i am currently running ubuntu 12.04.1, gnome shell 3.5.4, nviidia 304.64. I need to change the monitor size from 72 to 56".
[18:38] <javier__> resolution needs to stay at 19201080
[18:39] <escott> javier__, what does that mean? how are inches part of the display measurements
[18:40] <nongoogle> i want gparted to make my bootstick something besides vfat :C
[18:41] <javier__> system settings is reporting the monitor to be a 72" display. the tv is actually a 56" LCD. So, i have display cutoff all around.
[18:41] <Leidenfrost> Hi guys. I have to work with an Ubuntu Hardy (and yes, I'm stuck with that version) and for some reason I can't access the ttys. Any help would be appreciated.
[18:42] <javier__> the resolution is 1920x1080 as its an hd tv. So I need to change the scaling or some other value so the desktop isn't clipped.
[18:42] <max999> leidenfrost: ger?
[18:43] <Leidenfrost> max999: Sry, my knowledge in german is limited to ask for the bathroom
[18:43] <escott> javier__, you have overscan
[18:43] <max999> leidenfrost: your name makes me assume :) nevermind, you are trying to change to a tty with ctrl + alt + f[n]?
[18:43] <javier__> i dont see hot to change it anywhere
[18:44] <Leidenfrost> max999: oh I see lol. Yeah, I'm trying to access the ttys that way.
[18:44] <grumpyrj> javier__: have you looked at cvt and modelines?
[18:44] <javier__> no. how do i do that?
[18:45] <grumpyrj> with google, I mean.
[18:46] <max999> Leidenfrost: pretending to be smart and just copying out of google: In your /etc/X11/xorg.conf have you accidentally set the Option DontVTSwitch to True in the ServerFlags section?
[18:47] <Leidenfrost> max999: That's a good one. But no.
[18:47] <savid> Hi, I need to apply a simple patch to my kernel (drivers/hid/hid-core.c).  Are there any instructions available on the best way to make such a change?
[18:47] <escott> Leidenfrost, nvidia proprietary drivers?
[18:47] <jonny__> FerkSwe: hejja sverige i forumet?
[18:48] <Leidenfrost> escott: Neither. It's a VMware guest.
[18:48] <savid> Oh, nm, found it.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[18:48] <max999> Leidenfrost: ah in a vm..
[18:48] <max999> Leidenfrost: windows key + ctrl + alt + f..
[18:48] <nvl> Hello. I have a problem. It seems that your 32bit package for orc (http://code.entropywave.com/orc/) is broken and I couldn't compile a file. It seems that the issue is solved, so I had to clone it form git and install it, but it gives me an error when I try `./autogen.sh`: `./autogen.sh: 7: ./autogen.sh: autoreconf: not found`
[18:49] <Leidenfrost> max999: No good. :(
[18:49] <max999> Leidenfrost: but its the answer :l :)
[18:50] <nvl> What should I do to fix it? I have followed these instructions - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[18:50] <max999> Leidenfrost: http://communities.vmware.com/thread/295034
[18:50] <max999> Leidenfrost: with ctrl + alt you ungrab your vm. change the shortcut
[18:50] <DWSR> can someone help me with mdadm? I'm trying to create a stripe of 2 disks nested inside of a mirror.
[18:50] <escott> DWSR, why not just use the build in raid10
[18:50] <DWSR> Because I don't have enough devices.
[18:51] <DWSR> Raid 10 requires 4.
[18:51] <DWSR> I only have 3.
[18:51] <javier__> how do i change overscan values?
[18:51] <DWSR> And 2 of them are smaller than the third.
[18:51] <escott> javier__, there are various modeline generators out there
[18:53] <Leidenfrost> max999: I'll try that.
[18:53] <dr_willis> javier__: what video chipset
[18:53] <javier__> ok. what do I with that?
[18:53] <nvl> I have a problem trying to compile a program. Can anyone help me, please?
[18:54] <heoyea_> nop
[18:54] <lucido> dudes, how do I achieve gmail notifications in the status bar?
[18:54] <grumpyrj> javier__: so xorg uses some default values. you can generate your own modelines if xorg gets it wrong and put them in your xorg conf file. cvt is a program that generates modelines.
[18:54] <javier__> I am using an nvidia geforce gt 640 with driver version 304.64
[18:55] <escott> DWSR, ok. then i guess just create the array across the different md devices
[18:55] <heoyea_> lucido: install gmail-notify
[18:55] <dr_willis>  javier__ the nvidia-settings tool has an overscan settings feature
[18:55] <javier__> when I was using the ATI card, there was a simple option to change the scaling value. Now, with the NVIDIA, I am not finding such a solution
[18:55] <DWSR> escott: So just create the first array than the second?
[18:55] <escott> DWSR, im not clear on what you are proposing to do
[18:55] <lucido> heoyea_, I shall do so immediately
[18:55] <DWSR> escott: (A+B)=C in terms of size.
[18:56] <DWSR> escott: I'm trying to mirror (A+B) and C.
[18:56] <DWSR> So I need to create a stripe on (A+B) first.
[18:56] <CrazyZurfer> hello guys!, my unity interface works pretty slow for me, when I open a program, it takes a while to start, I'm sick of this cuz my notebook has 4 GB of ram but an 1,3 GHZ processor, anyway to speed it up or change the interface for a lighter one?
[18:56] <escott> DWSR, so C is twice the size of A or B
[18:56] <javier__> i followed the online instructions from x-swat and am wondering where the overscan vlaues are or where I can simply change the display size.
[18:56] <DWSR> Yes.
[18:56] <DWSR> escott: ^^
[18:57] <DWSR> CrazyZurfer: XFCE is much lighter than Unity.
[18:57] <DWSR> CrazyZurfer: Also, 1.3GHz is a fairly slow processor.
[18:57] <Leidenfrost> max999: do you know how to change the deattach keys in vmware esxi?
[18:57] <escott> DWSR, the configuration i would recommend is to mirror A to the first half of C, and B to the second half, then you can LVM across the two md arrays
[18:57] <DWSR> That seems very....unclean.
[18:58] <escott> DWSR, stripping A and B and then mirroring is going to reduce reliability and have more overhead
[18:58] <CrazyZurfer> DWSR: it's because i have an ultrabook, but one of the firts, its an intel centrino 2, 1,3GHZ dual core
[18:58] <grumpyrj> wipe the raid and move to lvm entirely
[18:58] <Leidenfrost> DWSR: that's the slowest cpu still being usable for internet.
[18:58] <javier__> the television is set to "justscan" so I am lost
[18:58] <grumpyrj> ah, the minimum internet specs
[18:58] <Leidenfrost> grumpyrj: lol yea
[18:59] <max999> Leidenfrost: not rly, try in ~/.vmware/preferences or something similar :)
[19:00] <pablo_> any good linux beginner tutorials?
[19:00] <DWSR> escott: Ok, I'll do that, but I'm having a problem with apt.
[19:00] <max999> pablo_, lots of
[19:00] <max999> question answered, next
[19:00] <max999> ;D
[19:00] <DWSR> escott: http://pastebin.com/AKVtwk6v
[19:00] <pablo_> hahaha
[19:00] <javier__> i have not run the additional driver update from the system settings
[19:00] <AminosAmigos> pablo_,  site du zero (french )
[19:01] <dr_willis> pablo_: see wgats most tagged with those tags at  delicious.com   is what i do.
[19:01] <max999> pablo_, http://bit.ly/OWP1Cb
[19:02] <dr_willis> javier__: i set my tv to use no overscan.
[19:02] <RJ45> I need an FTP server with a GUI for Ubu 10.04.4, HIT MEH
[19:02] <pablo_> o rigth boys
[19:02] <bl4ckdu5t> can anyone tell me about the RFID tools on BT5
[19:02] <max999> RJ45, filezilla?
[19:02] <DWSR> RJ45: Filezilla.
[19:02] <CrazyZurfer> DWSR: don't understand how to install it :S
[19:02] <pablo_> thanx
[19:02] <javier__> overscan from the pc
[19:02] <max999> DWSR, i win
[19:02] <raymondjtoth> hi any one use wubi here?
[19:02] <RJ45> does Filezille double as a server?
[19:03] <DWSR> CrazyZurfer: Should be able to just apt-get install xubuntu
[19:03] <RJ45> zilla*
[19:03] <DWSR> RJ45: There's a server package for it
[19:03] <max999> RJ45, double? you can use it as a server
[19:03] <DWSR> escott: Any suggestions on that pastebin?
[19:03] <raymondjtoth> i use wube
[19:03] <max999> RJ45, it doesnt support sftp though. but ftps :)
[19:03] <CrazyZurfer> DWSR: and nothing happens with the ubuntu updates later?
[19:03] <raymondjtoth> when i use wubi i get grldr err whats up
[19:03] <RJ45> DWSR: and it's ALL GUI?, including setup/config?
[19:03] <raymondjtoth> ?
[19:03] <escott> DWSR, try the suggested instruction, update your packages, disable any ppas
[19:04] <DWSR> RJ45: Yes.
[19:04] <DWSR> CrazyZurfer: No.
[19:04] <DWSR> escott: I did update my packages.
[19:04] <jonny__> pablo_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/ubuntu-made-easy-book-review
[19:04] <RJ45> kick-ass! I'll go try it. thanks guys!
[19:04] <RJ45> :-)
[19:04] <raymondjtoth> any one know why i goyo book wubi i get grldr err?
[19:05] <DWSR> escott: That happened after I did an apt-get upgrade
[19:05] <DWSR> escott: So I'm not really sure why the hell it broke so hard.
[19:05] <CrazyZurfer> DWSR: apt-get didn't found xubuntu :S
[19:05] <DWSR> CrazyZurfer: Sorry, it's xubuntu-desktop
[19:06] <CrazyZurfer> DWSR: Thanks.. -> installind :D!
[19:06] <CrazyZurfer> installing*
[19:07] <pablo_> thank u jonnyu_
[19:08] <raymondjtoth> hi im tryingyo install wubi [13:00] <raymondjtoth> and get boot err whats up [13:01] <raymondjtoth> get err grldr
[19:08] <nongoogle> how2maek gparted editor able to reformat bootstick :V
[19:09] <bl4ckdu5t> what is the channel for bt5 users
[19:09] <ouyes> hello, is there anyone get the nvidia driver work on ubuntu amd64 12.04?
[19:09] <AminosAmigos> bl4ckdu5t,  backtrack-linux (you could find it in the website)
[19:10] <almoxarife> ouyes: what have you tried so far?
[19:11] <ouyes> almoxarife, I try to install nvidia -current and download the package for the official website both failed
[19:11] <almoxarife> ouyes: what went wrong with -current?
[19:11] <RJ45> how do I make Filezilla a server?
[19:12] <ouyes> almoxarife, nothing wrong , but after a reboot you will get a resolution of 800x640
[19:12] <almoxarife> RJ45: its a client
[19:12] <RJ45> almoxarife: I was told it can be turned into server
[19:13] <AminosAmigos> afaik you use filezilla to connect to an FTP server
[19:13] <RJ45> FTP server*
[19:13] <almoxarife> ouyes: did you try to change the resolution via the config(gui)
[19:13] <pablo_> Brazilian Jiujitsu and Ubuntu rock
[19:13] <RJ45> pablo_: how would one combine those?
[19:14] <almoxarife> RJ45: plain jane ftp? install ftpd, you might want something a bit more secure
[19:14] <raymondjtoth> anyone good with wubi here?
[19:14] <pablo_> easy just practice them both.....
[19:14] <RJ45> almoxarife: I'm only using it for a test on my network, so plain FTP will do, also how would I de-activate FTP once I'm done?
[19:15] <ouyes> almoxarife, it informs like you have not enable the nvidia driver
[19:15] <raymondjtoth> any one good with wubi
[19:15] <RJ45> my network being a LAN
[19:15] <ouyes> almoxarife, and suggest you sudo nvidia-xorg
[19:15] <almoxarife> RJ45: un-install ftpd
[19:15] <raymondjtoth> ?
[19:15] <escott> RJ45, do you not have openssh already installed?
[19:15] <RJ45> almoxarife: anything simpler
[19:16] <RJ45> escott: not sure, why?
[19:16] <almoxarife> RJ45: simpler? cans and a string?
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> raymondjtoth  wubi is not something to be 'good at', it's purpose is to get used to the ubuntu interface
[19:16] <escott> RJ45, if you do you can just use sftp
[19:16] <raymondjtoth> MonkeyDust: im ge3tting grldr err when book using wubi
[19:16] <bieb> bobweaver: you still here?
[19:16] <raymondjtoth> why is thiss ancdxs how i gfix it
[19:16] <raymondjtoth> fix it
[19:17] <RJ45> escott: with Filezilla?
[19:17] <almoxarife> RJ45: filezilla is a client
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> raymondjtoth  don't struggle with wubi, install ubuntu on its own partition, next to windows, not inside it
[19:17] <RJ45> almoxarife: which can be turned into server!
[19:17] <raymondjtoth> MonkeyDust: what i do thanks
[19:17] <RJ45> I need GUI
[19:17] <escott> RJ45, filezilla supports sftp
[19:17] <raymondjtoth> mon i wan to uyi wubi
[19:17] <almoxarife> RJ45: ok, so you answered your own question
[19:18] <max999> filezilla does NOT support sftp, its ftps it supports.
[19:18] <RJ45> almoxarife: I'm sure it can be used with FTP, but I'm not sure about SFTP, which it WHY I ASKED
[19:18] <RJ45> it = is*
[19:19] <RJ45> max999: okay
[19:19] <almoxarife> RJ45: filezilla works with sftp, the only diff is the port
[19:19] <raymondjtoth> MonkeyDust: understand
[19:19] <RJ45> gotta go, back later mayber
[19:19] <max999> rj45: maybe im wrong if ppl insist on sftp here. but i found this reply on google recently myself :)
[19:20] <escott> RJ45, as a client filezilla supports sftp, as a server you would be expected to use your openssh-server install for sftp
[19:20] <bulletrulz> Hello
[19:20] <almoxarife> troll!
[19:20] <phunyguy_work> bulletrulz, I thought you got banned? o.O
[19:20] <Pici> RJ45: please use complete words. I for one cannot understand what you are saying.
[19:20] <Pici> RJ45: sorry, mistab.
[19:20] <bulletrulz> phunyguy_work, He Unbanned me
[19:20] <Pici> raymondjtoth: please use complete words. I for one cannot understand what you are saying.
[19:20] <max999> almoxarife, we are talking about the server not the client.
[19:21] <max999> the client does support sftp
[19:21] <bulletrulz> i am using Lubuntu 12.10 and when i try to change the window border it changes the color of the buttons but not the acctully buttons!
[19:21] <almoxarife> max999: filezilla supports sftp, yes
[19:21] <max999> almoxarife, the server doesnt. prove me wrong plz :)
[19:21] <almoxarife> max999: what server?
[19:21] <max999> almoxarife, the filezilla server.
[19:21] <raymondjtoth2> MonkeyDust: sorry got kicked under differnt nick
[19:22] <almoxarife> max999: i dont know what a filezilla server is, i have used the client though
[19:22] <bieb> I installed 12.04 server, I need gui for one of the people that will be using server.. I did apt-get install xinit, when I startx I get a small white box in the upper left with a command prompt.. any ideas?
[19:22] <bulletrulz> Hello! D:
[19:22] <max999> almoxarife, there is a filezilla ftp server version too, thats what rj45 was asking about :)
[19:23] <almoxarife> max999: yes, he said so, and i asked then why he was asking, seems he knew the answer
[19:23] <phunyguy_work> bieb, perhaps you are looking for a desktop environment to use? like LXDE? or XFCE?
[19:23] <almoxarife> !filezilla
[19:23] <aaas> bieb you need a window manager install lxde or xfce4 etc
[19:24] <almoxarife> !info filezilla
[19:24] <max999> rj45: you can use ftps, security level is the same. sftp is easier to manager for network administrators though as it uses 1 port instead of 2. :)
[19:24] <almoxarife> ubot thinks its a client, i am with ubot
[19:24] <bieb> aaas and phunyguy_work: are they both similar? one need more resources than the other?
[19:25] <max999> almoxarife, there is filezilla client and filazilla server ;-)) you prob were not in when rj45 asked about a ftp server initially.
[19:25] <Pici> almoxarife, max999: filezilla server is only available on windows.
[19:25] <aaas> bieb depends on what your needs are, feature, cpu, memory.... google for comparisions there are very detailed comparisions on the web
[19:25] <phunyguy_work> as far as I can tell, FileZilla server is just widoze.
[19:25] <aaas> bieb and many many other options
[19:25] <almoxarife> Pici: must install windoz, i am missing something important :)
[19:25] <phunyguy_work> bieb - LXDE is smaller and more lightweight
[19:26] <bieb> aaas: thanks
[19:26] <bieb> phunyguy_work: thanks
[19:26] <younder> I usencftp
[19:27] <max999> Pici, could be, used it on windows servers yet. dwrs answered with filezilla on the server question too and noone denied it :)
[19:27] <younder> nautilus is the nix gui file browser
[19:27] <jonny__> jrib: Re-mounting md0 to /home was as easy as quick edit in /etc/rc.local. However, did miss something on the way and had to sudo chown -R username:username /home/username/ to get back ownership from root. Works perfect now! Thanks again!
[19:27] <almoxarife> max999: i did
[19:27] <escott> RJ45, max999i was suggesting sftp because he likely already has openssh-server installed so its one less thing for him to do when he is done with his temporary need for ftp
[19:27] <jrib> jonny__: you should be using /etc/fstab, no?  I actually don't know how to properly deal with raid
[19:28] <bulletrulz> i have another probelm
[19:28] <younder> jrib used that just the other day setting up NFS
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> jonny__  is it a server?
[19:28] <bulletrulz> i accedently created 2 docks for awn and now cant get rid of it!
[19:29] <phunyguy_work> bulletrulz, kill one?
[19:29] <bulletrulz> how? phunyguy_work
[19:29] <phunyguy_work> use the xkill command, and click one of them with the cursor
[19:29] <bulletrulz> ok
[19:29] <younder> bulletrulz, ctrl-alt-t cd <dir< and then rm <file> and exit
[19:30] <jrib> jonny__: do you currently have an entry for md0 in your /etc/fstab?
[19:30] <jonny__> jrib: You are right, one should use /etc/fstab. However, if fstab fails during boot, nothing will boot at all and you are left with a non-responsive box. If you let /etc/fstab do general boot procedure and then /etc/rc.local take care of mounting your raid, then at least there's less complexities during boot.
[19:30] <younder> jrib: no
[19:30] <phunyguy_work> younder, I think he meant he had two running.
[19:31] <bulletrulz> NOO!!!
[19:31] <bulletrulz> now i cant start it
[19:31] <bulletrulz> nvm
[19:31] <younder> jrib: You are wrong. It will boot. at statup it will ask if you wnat to skip if you do it wrong.
[19:31] <jrib> younder: :x
[19:32] <bulletrulz> fixed it thank u guys !
[19:32] <bulletrulz> :D
[19:32] <younder> jrib: But I did it wron once and I could still boot and fix it
[19:32] <jrib> younder: I think you're addressing the wrong person
[19:32] <jonny__> jrib: Unless you have some app or something on the raid that depends on startup functions. I don't have an entry in fstab, no.
[19:32] <phunyguy_work> younder, not if you are SSHd in and the server is remote.
[19:32] <phunyguy_work> if so, you cannot boot.
[19:32] <phunyguy_work> ask me how I know.
[19:33] <jonny__> jrib: solely relying on /etc/rc.local to mount the raid1
[19:33] <younder> jrib: Anyhow you can mount --bind as well. no need per se to put it in fstab
[19:34] <almoxarife> phunyguy_work: ok, how do you know?
[19:34] <phunyguy_work> if a disk doesn't mount properly within fstab, it will not boot without user interaction.
[19:34] <phunyguy_work> (iirc)
[19:34] <ubuntu> hey
[19:34] <phunyguy_work> ...because I've had it happen.
[19:35] <phunyguy_work> for example, in an upgrade, /dev/md0 became /dev/md127 - yay, of course fstab still said /dev/md0
[19:35] <ChipsChallenge> Trying Linux for the first time in years. Fuduntu acutally, which still uses gnome2. One minor thing that bugs the hell out of me is that when you have a fullscreen window, you cant click the scrollbar by simply clicking along the rightmost edge of the screen <you hit the window border instead>...
[19:35] <jrib> jonny__: apparently there's a "nobootwait" option you can use in fstab.  Anyway, I'm not sure what standard practice is for dealing with raid, I just mention fstab so you look into it and try to find what best practices are considered
[19:35] <ChipsChallenge> is it like that on most ubuntu based desktops, or on gnome in general is it just a fuduntu thing?
[19:35] <escott> !uuid | phunyguy_work
[19:36] <phunyguy_work> escott yes, and I know that now, however, most beginner raid guides that noobs follow, don't know about it.
[19:36] <almoxarife> i am becoming more more a believer in uuid
[19:36] <RJ45> what package do I need to install in order to use Filezilla as an FTP SERVER?
[19:36] <phunyguy_work> or dont mention it, therefore you have fstab errors when you upgrade and the device changes
[19:36] <escott> phunyguy_work, i have no idea who you are talking to
[19:37] <Mingo__> escott:
[19:37] <almoxarife> RJ45: you would need to install wine(maybe)
[19:37] <phunyguy_work> jrib and younder
[19:37] <DWSR> RJ45: It would appear that Filezilla server isn't available for Linux.
[19:37] <phunyguy_work> (escott)
[19:37] <DWSR> RJ45: If you're looking for FTP, I would recommend SSH.
[19:37] <DWSR> err.
[19:37] <DWSR> RJ45: I would recommend SFTP (which is FTP over SSH)
[19:37] <RJ45> damit
[19:37] <RJ45> I REALLY want a GIU though
[19:38] <RJ45> GUI*
[19:38] <DWSR> RJ45: Then you're on the wrong operating syste.
[19:38] <almoxarife> RJ45: wine, then find filezilla-server for windoz
[19:38] <almoxarife> then pray it all works
[19:38] <DWSR> RJ45: I hate to be an elitist about it, but if you're not comfortable doing at least a few things command line, you shouldn't be running Linux for a server.
[19:38] <DWSR> RJ45: Keyboard cowboys still rule the Linux world.
[19:39] <DWSR> RJ45: That's not to say that you need to have an intimate knowledge of every scripting/programming language, a math degree and a vinyl pocket protector in order to run things, but you need to be comfortable with running on a command line or in a text-only environment in order to do some administration tasks.
[19:40] <almoxarife> cowboys ride keyboards, it was going to happen soonoer or later
[19:40] <DWSR> RJ45: Besides, FTP is horrible.
[19:40] <DWSR> RJ45: SFTP is at least secure.
[19:40] <DWSR> RJ45: And NFS is at least fast.
[19:40] <DWSR> RJ45: Depending on your needs, you should pick either the former (for remote work) or the later (for internal).
[19:40] <almoxarife> DWSR: what about 'fish'?
[19:41] <DWSR> You almost certainly already have OpenSSH installed on your server, and if you don't, it's a single command away and you get sensible defaults.
[19:41] <RJ45> which one has the least overhead?
[19:41] <DWSR> RJ45: What is your use case? I probably missed it.
[19:41] <DWSR> RJ45: what are you trying to do?
[19:41] <RJ45> LAN Ubuntu to Ubuntu
[19:41] <DWSR> NFS.
[19:41] <RJ45> just doing a few tests
[19:42] <DWSR> You want NFS.
[19:42] <DWSR> So hard in the face it hurts.
[19:42] <phunyguy_work> lol
[19:42] <RJ45> okay, thanks!
[19:42] <RJ45> :)
[19:42] <DWSR> I'm even using NFS Windows to Ubuntu
[19:42] <DWSR> Just because Samba is that much of a flaming pile of monkey manure.
[19:42] <RJ45> hmm
[19:42] <phunyguy_work> DWSR, any issues with UID and GID mapping?
[19:43] <phunyguy_work> I remember that being a pain when I tried it with windows.
[19:43] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: Not overly, I'm pretty sure that I'm running my NFS server ina  pretty poor configuration though.
[19:43] <RJ45> any GUI based NFS?
[19:43] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: It certainly seems a little kludgey, but it works and well.
[19:43] <DWSR> RJ45: No. NFS is meant to be very no nonsense.
[19:43] <DWSR> RJ45: Edit /etc/exports and start the NFS daemon./
[19:43]  * MonkeyDust is now known as MonkeyManure
[19:43] <phunyguy_work> !nfs
[19:44] <RJ45> okay, do you think if I look in the man files I'll be okay on my own?
[19:44] <RJ45> ...when it comes to configuration
[19:44] <phunyguy_work> RJ45, read ubottu's link
[19:44] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: I can basically max the throughput of my disks with NFS, so I'm not complaining. I'm even running ZoL underneat of it.
[19:44] <phunyguy_work> nice, DWSR
[19:44] <DWSR> RJ45: Read the link Ubotu gave. You'll be fine. It's literally a 5 minute process front to back.
[19:44] <RJ45> shweet
[19:44] <almoxarife> RJ45: the least config is ssh(sftpd)
[19:44] <RJ45> thanks for the help guys, although now my face hurts :P
[19:45] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: Yeah, if I had money and things, I'd be running bonded 10GigE into my server with jumbo frames.
[19:45] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: But right now I'm just running GigE over Cat5E and it works well. Still around 25MB/s.
[19:45] <phunyguy_work> wouldn't we all, DWSR
[19:45] <DWSR> Which is pretty close to what I'd get local transfer anyway.
[19:45] <phunyguy_work> I'm still on 100 meg and wireless g.
[19:45] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: Ick.
[19:45] <phunyguy_work> Yes.
[19:45] <DWSR> I have my entire network infrastructure mounted underneath my desk.
[19:46] <DWSR> My desktop and server are hardwired to a GigE router.
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> DWSR, I have been planning an upgrade, but funds always get diverted.
[19:46] <jonny__> jrib: took general queues from https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/advanced-installation.html and the tidbit about fstab during boot from http://www.iceteks.com/articles.php/linuxmdadmraid/2 I'm not a sysadm, just wanted roll my own Ubuntu Server for SoHo NAS purposes. Good advice though to educate more about best practices.
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> this is !ot though
[19:46] <almoxarife> i have a serial connection to my toaster
[19:46] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: My modem is actually across the house, connected via Powerline ethernet.
[19:46] <DWSR> phunyguy_work: *shrug*, we're helping as well.
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> we can discuss further in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> I don't feel like getting yelled at right now :)
[19:49] <RJ45> I read the page on the other end of that link, what I read made be cry :(
[19:49] <RJ45> I'll never understand this stuff
[19:49] <RJ45> made me*
[19:49] <DWSR> RJ45: err, what?
[19:50] <DWSR> The top section is all you need to read.
[19:50] <RJ45> (didn't really make me cry, but nearly)
[19:50] <DWSR> There's like...what? 4 commands?
[19:50] <ChipsChallenge> When running a fullscreen browser window in fuduntu, and clicking the rightmost side of the screen, you don't hit the scrollbar...is it like that on most ubuntu based desktops, or on gnome in general is it just a fuduntu thing?
[19:50] <graChe28> hi i've installed xfce4 via apt-get, and it's missing power manager from the setting menu (read I can't get it to shut the screen off after inactivity) how can i get the power manager setting back?
[19:51] <ChipsChallenge> that's usually how I scroll on my netbook..just move the cursor right until it hits the screen's edge and then click the scrollbar. But on fuduntu, that doesn't work.. could you check if it's the same in your distro?
[19:51] <DWSR> RJ45: apt-get install nfs-kernel-server && mkdir -p /export/users && mount --bind /home/users /export/users && echo '/home/users /export/users none bind 0 0' >> /etc/fstab
[19:51] <DWSR> Just run that as root.
[19:51] <DWSR> You have NFS.
[19:51] <DWSR> gg
[19:51] <DWSR> By default that configuration will export all of your users' home directories via NFS.
[19:52] <RomeoAva> Back, I need to fix the comp now. It's very uncomfortable to use it in low resolution display, the video projector can't be detected
[19:52] <RJ45> lol I like to download packages, them run them, soI have an archive for when I ever need to install again
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> ChipsChallenge: fuduntu isn't supported here.....
[19:52] <RJ45> then*
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> RJ45: that is the default behaviour
[19:52] <DWSR> RJ45: apt-get install downloads the package and caches it.
[19:52] <RJ45> my keyboard is plotting against me
[19:52] <DWSR> It already does what you're doing, except automatically.
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> RJ45: look in /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:52] <DWSR> ^^
[19:53] <bulletrulz>  hello
[19:53] <RJ45> ActionParsnip: I know, I still feel safe this way
[19:53] <RJ45> safer*
[19:53] <ChipsChallenge> ActionParsnip: thinking about switching to ubuntu, so just wanted to check if ubuntu has the same scrollbar 'issue'
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> RJ45: you are doing something the OS already does, its not safer in any way, but if it makes you happy then fill your boots
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> ChipsChallenge: I suggest you run it in a liveCD desktop and see if you like it ;)
[19:54] <RJ45> where the commands say "/home/users" and "/export/users" do I actually put '/users' or do I replace that part with something?
[19:55] <younder> RJ45: NFS right
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> RJ45: you can use the shorthand '~'  to mean /home/$USER   or you can also use $HOME
[19:55] <RJ45> younder: yes NFS
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> ah, never mind
[19:56] <RJ45> shorthand?
[19:56] <younder> RJ45: That part s fin it is that IP part that must change. use ifconfig to seee what your current IP address is. Or Newwork Information connections
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> RJ45: yes, instead of typing cd /home/username/Downloads     you can type: cd ~/Downloads
[19:57] <wapmorgan> hi guys. don't anybody know why alx driver isn't included into the linux kernel? // I apologize for my English
[19:57] <younder> Never use relative path in a startup script. see dan farmer protecting your system by breaking into it
[19:58] <RJ45> ActionParsnip: I never know that, and have needed something like that for a lot of my BASH scripts!, that is a SEXY command!, thanks!
[19:58] <RJ45> knew*
[19:58] <bulletrulz> hi
[19:59] <bulletrulz> now to my main problem i have a problem with the icons of the window bordor!
[19:59] <RomeoAva> in Software source/Other Software I have to many lines, some are not check ed. I don't know  which  to be checked.
[20:00] <RomeoAva> I want to clean all of them and update the source.list
[20:02] <RJ45> how do I disable NFS when I don't want it no more?
[20:02] <RomeoAva> The Source code is not checked, in Software Sources. That's good?
[20:03] <jav77> hello, I checked the configuration on the Windows 7 side, and nvidia is set to 1882x1048 pixels. Currently, my nvidia driver 304.64 for the geforce gt 640 is set to 1920x1080 (same as my cable box),and the system settings say 72" TV (which is wrong). How can I change the resolution to 1880x1048 in ubuntu 12.04.1 (gnome shell 3.5.4)?
[20:03] <max999> how to find out about my netbooks fans? i get some lines with cooling when i run lm-sensors .. i dont have much in /proc/acpi
[20:03] <david201> is there any chat room about java troubleshooting ?
[20:04] <max999> david201, probe me
[20:04] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: that is good, yes
[20:04] <david201> max999 Okey, my problem is: when I apply a certain pattern which uses a certain delimiters the method split doesn't split at all
[20:05] <max999> david201, lets go to dialog
[20:05] <david201> okey
[20:05] <RJ45> jav77: I'd say 1920x1080 is more a correct resolution than 1882x1048.
[20:06] <jav77> yes, I agree, but I can't overscan or underscan so I cannot see the menu bar or side docks. So I need a way to change the size of the display
[20:06] <Aelingil> I am trying to have an ALIAS COMMAND show "text" then "Command".. Example alias krn "Kernel" uname -r  Every time i try it, i get an error telling me after "Kerne" it cannot run the command. Is there a different way to show text next to a command when calling aliases?
[20:07] <escott> Aelingil, you have been given the answer
[20:07] <Sab3r> any idea why my right mouse click doesnt work?
[20:08] <bjrohan> I just did an upgrade, and now I can not enable my wireless network card, help is greatly appreciated. I can not even turn it on via the keyboard on my Dell (fn + F10)
[20:09] <Aelingil> escott,  I tried your answer, when i type in krn it does not run. and when i reload my terminal i get errors. So either i typed it out wrong. Or the command does not fit into the aliases i have.
[20:09] <bjrohan> escott: Any ideas how to turn my wireless network radio back on? After an upgrade today + restart it is no longer working
[20:09] <escott> Aelingil, it cannot be done with an alias. it has to be a function. if you want us to look at the function you need to show it
[20:11] <escott> bjrohan, check rfkill
[20:11] <ehazlett> greetings.. i'm on 10.04 - i have firefox installed.  if i try to install flashplugin-installer,  it says it will remove firefox -- any ideas?
[20:11] <Aelingil> escott, Ah.. i did not get that info last time.. I was not doing functions i was messing with some Aliases to speed up what i'm typing out.
[20:12] <Aelingil> escott, again, thank you for your time :)
[20:12] <jrib> ehazlett: run sudo apt-get update, then pastebin the full output of your command when you attempt to install flashplugin-installer
[20:12] <DarkKnightCZ> hi, is there a chance how to retrieve document, when it was "rewriten" and libreoffice has been closed?
[20:13] <bjrohan> escott: sudo rfkill list all: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428273/
[20:14] <almoxarife> DarkKnightCZ: look in /tmp
[20:14] <pawlo_231> hi, is there any way to control sound blaster x-fi?
[20:14] <pawlo_231> it's working out of the box, but I can't configure it
[20:15] <jrib> DarkKnightCZ: libreoffice usually offers to recover a document when you first start it up if it crashed or was killed in a "strange" way
[20:15] <DarkKnightCZ> it wasnt crashed, it was closed normally
[20:15] <jrib> DarkKnightCZ: and you saved your changes?  Now you want to undo the save?
[20:16] <DarkKnightCZ> yeah, exactly like that... libreoffice should keep that 15 minutes backup
[20:16] <ehazlett> jrib: https://gist.github.com/4271172
[20:17] <jrib> DarkKnightCZ: I don't know if it saves the undo history, but I assume you've opened the document up again and don't see the ability to undo.  You might try asking in #libreoffice
[20:17] <DarkKnightCZ> ok
[20:17] <jrib> ehazlett: apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer firefox
[20:18] <ehazlett> jrib: https://gist.github.com/4271187
[20:18] <pinguy> how do you login as root
[20:18] <ikonia> pinguy: using ping OS ?
[20:18] <ViaNocturna85> pinguy: dont, use sudo
[20:19] <jrib> ehazlett: probably some issue with the packaging.  What's the output of: apt-cache show flashplugin-installer
[20:19] <jav77> anyone have any ideas? I can't believe I can't set the scan values in the nvidia settings
[20:19] <sarahS> pinguy: that's a really bad idea
[20:19] <TheLordOfTime> !root | pinguy
[20:19] <RomeoAva> I cleaned the Duplicate from Other Software but the eror is the same: duplicate
[20:19] <TheLordOfTime> !sudo | pinguy
[20:19] <Catbuntu> Ciao
[20:19] <RomeoAva> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)
[20:19] <RomeoAva> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ quantal/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[20:19] <RomeoAva> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[20:19] <ehazlett> jrib: https://gist.github.com/4271205
[20:19] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin | RomeoAva
[20:19] <ikonia> maybe it helps if you check what actual OS he's using
[20:20] <ikonia> all the clones don't have the same sudo model before hitting him with random factoids
[20:20] <sarahS> does anyone know an image viewer app that can play animated gifs full screen?
[20:20] <TheLordOfTime> good point...
[20:20] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia, if he's using any Ubuntu distribution (which we assume because he's in this channel) those factoids apply.
[20:20] <TheLordOfTime> no?
[20:20] <ViaNocturna85> ikonia: I thought he meant in Ubuntu since he asked it here, never heard of Ping OS
[20:20] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: no
[20:21] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: as it's a variant and some of them change things, especially around the sudo rules
[20:21] <jrib> ehazlett: hmm, what's this do: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer firefox
[20:21] <ikonia> ViaNocturna85: its a sloppy distro, they don't appear to have changed the default xchat channel from #ubuntu to pingos channel
[20:21] <hornolio> good morning
[20:22] <ehazlett> jrib: http://d.pr/i/LOII
[20:22] <hornolio> i got a prolem i want to use ubuntu routing technique but not with those nasty 10.42.0.1 range, i got every where 192.168.0.x
[20:22] <ViaNocturna85> ikonia: It makes the support here a little difficult lol
[20:22] <ehazlett> jrib: so i probably just need to specify a specific version
[20:22] <RomeoAva> Please help me to fix that bug now. I trayed for 3 days already
[20:23] <RomeoAva> I'm here for that, waiting some instructions
[20:23] <TheLordOfTime> RomeoAva, pastebin your sources.list
[20:23] <pochefuok> good evening
[20:23] <RomeoAva> I done http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[20:23] <jrib> ehazlett: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:23] <RomeoAva> and nothing
[20:23] <ViaNocturna85> pochefuok: hello
[20:23] <GandalfB> Hey Guys,  are there any Lampp experts here that can help with my lampp install on ubuntu
[20:23] <ikonia> GandalfB: what are you not clear on ?
[20:24] <jrib> !info flashplugin-installer lucid
[20:24] <GandalfB> Hi Ikonia
[20:24] <jrib> ehazlett: see, you should have 11.2... available
[20:24] <GandalfB> I'm trying to enable the curl extention
[20:24] <RomeoAva> i have pastebinit
[20:24] <jrib> ehazlett: could be your mirror
[20:24] <ikonia> GandalfB: the curl extention in what ?
[20:25] <GandalfB> in php5 I think
[20:25] <ehazlett> jrib: https://gist.github.com/4271256
[20:25] <ikonia> GandalfB: ok....go on
[20:25] <ehazlett> jrib: probably the ec2 mirror
[20:25] <ikonia> explain your issue
[20:25] <GandalfB> I've uncommented extension=php_curl.dll on my php.ini - as per instructions
[20:25] <RomeoAva> sudo apt-get update pastebinit
[20:25] <GandalfB> but when I restert my lamp webserver
[20:25] <jrib> ehazlett: you can throw lucid-updates multiverse into your sources.list if you want.  But it doesn't seem like you should need to according to ubottu
[20:25] <ikonia> GandalfB: what instructions are you using ?
[20:25] <GandalfB> it starts up fine
[20:26] <ehazlett> jrib: ok
[20:26] <jrib> ehazlett: changing mirror will probably resolve the issue (try)
[20:26] <GandalfB> but the files are not being served.  its downloading index.php when I goto localhost
[20:26] <gandhijee_> hello.  does anyone know how to change the color depth with an xorg.conf file or having to restart X?
[20:26] <GandalfB> after un comment it
[20:26] <GandalfB> I find the instructions
[20:26] <GandalfB> now
[20:26] <GandalfB> one sec
[20:26] <FloodBot1> GandalfB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <ikonia> GandalfB: ok - that doesn't sound like anything to do with curl
[20:27] <ikonia> GandalfB: that sounds like you don't have the php module enabled in apache and/or you don't have the extension .php set in the application handler in apache
[20:28] <aaas> what's going on here:  http://pastebin.com/9jx6Vfyt  I can't find a process idea for a running process... could this be upstart related?
[20:28] <ehazlett> jrib: yep adding lucid-updates worked -- thx!
 ho to do pastebinit, please
[20:29] <RomeoAva> it is sometink like sudo apt-get update pastebinit
[20:29] <Pici> RomeoAva: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:29] <RomeoAva> thanks pici
[20:30] <RomeoAva> pici I nhave it
[20:30] <RomeoAva> I want to have the raport from Terminal
[20:30] <GandalfB> These are the instructions I'm following - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3020049/how-to-enable-curl-in-xampp
[20:31] <ikonia> GandalfB: that is not lamp
[20:31] <Pici> RomeoAva: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:31] <ikonia> GandalfB: that is xammp
[20:31] <marianne> anyone know if 5.1 surround sound can be set up on 12.04... I'm open to buying a new sound card
[20:31] <RomeoAva> pici ok
[20:31] <ikonia> GandalfB: hence why it says "xampp" not "lamp"
[20:31] <Pici> GandalfB: Did you install xampp? or did you install apache2 from our software repositories?
[20:31] <bobweaver> Does anyone know how to add a setting to dbus like if I want to add option for" com.canonical.Unity.Launcher" " color " thanks
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> aaas: try:  ps -ef | grep tv      instead of:  ps -A | grep tvheadend
   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428315/
[20:32] <GandalfB> ikonia, I'm trying to find some reliable instructions on how to enable / install it.   From the reading I've done it seemed like it was pre-packeds with LAMPP (Xampp for linux).   I 'm wonderng if I'm wasting time with Lammp and whether it would be simpler to install apache, php etc seperatly
[20:32] <aaas> ActionParsnip same thing  (only shows the grep command)
[20:32] <bobweaver> aaas, what about    ps aux | grep tv
[20:32] <ikonia> GandalfB: the product is called "LAMP" not "LAMPP" - you may find better results if you use the right name to search
 I done http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[20:32] <aaas> bobweaver same thing
[20:32] <ikonia> GandalfB: xammpp works different than a LAMP install
[20:33] <bobweaver> aaas, then it is not running ?
[20:33] <ikonia> xammp even
[20:33] <GandalfB> I installed LAMPP from http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#377
[20:33] <ikonia> xampp
[20:33] <RomeoAva> there is no any duplicate but the eror is stil there
[20:33] <aaas> bobweaver then why does 'start' say it is?
[20:33] <david201> Ubuntu or devian for desktop low knowledged users?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> aaas: does servce have a verbose option?
[20:33] <ikonia> GandalfB: what part of "it's called LAMP" am I not making clear, anything not called LAMP is different
[20:33] <GandalfB> but I've been struggling to find relavent help for lampp, which tells me how to enable curl
[20:33] <ikonia> GandalfB: hence why that URL says "xampp"
[20:33] <Pici> ikonia: apachefriends calls their install LAMPP
[20:33] <aaas> ActionParsnip  ill have to look into that
[20:34] <ikonia> Pici: yes, but this is not a "LAMP" install
[20:34] <RomeoAva> and the problem is the same. the comp is not opening, stais in purple color. I need to reboot 2-3 times and goes in low resolution
[20:34] <ikonia> its even called xampp in the URL
[20:34] <aaas> ActionParsnip but this seems like a service independent problem
[20:34] <bobweaver> aaas,  you have tried to killall tvheadend   && start tvheadend   ?
[20:34] <jav77> help please?
[20:34] <GandalfB> ah I see it been renamed to Xampp for linux
[20:34] <Pici> GandalfB: I highly suggest you not using the apachefriends install.  The packages that we provide in our repositories are guaranteed to be updated for security fixes, you get no such coverage with your LAMPP/XAMPP install.
[20:34] <ikonia> why are you not using a standard LAMP install ?
[20:35] <Pici> GandalfB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP has all the information you need to install a LAMP stack on Ubuntu.
[20:35] <GandalfB> right ok - Pici thanks
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Pici: Or rather they used to call it LAMPP, before they realized that causing confusion like we've seen here is not a great idea, and now they call it "XAMPP for Linux".
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> jav77: what is the issue?
[20:35] <Pici> Jordan_U: Ah.
[20:35] <aaas> bobweaver http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428324/
[20:35] <sbaugh> Ubuntu doesn't seem to be remembering my wireless password, it asks for it every time (It remembers the username though)
[20:36] <RomeoAva> TheLordOfTime I think I have to many repository in Other Software
[20:36] <aaas> it's some strange upstart thing probably
[20:36] <bobweaver> aaas,  I have no clue maybe it is called something else ?
[20:36] <GandalfB> I see - thanks Jordan_U,  sorry for causing confusion.
[20:36] <aaas> im sure tvheadend is not functioning correctly.... but its weird that it works this way
[20:37] <bobweaver> aaas,  I like tv what is tvhead ?
[20:37] <bobweaver> got a link ?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> !info tvhead
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> !find tvhead
[20:37] <jav77> the issue is that I cannot resize my display with the nvidia driver (no overscan or underscan) and I cannot see the menu or docks
[20:37] <aaas> bobweaver it's a pvr backend
[20:37] <aaas> bobweaver for llive tv
[20:37] <bobweaver> aaas,  uses mysql for storage of meta data ect ?
[20:37] <GandalfB> I choose XAMPP for linux to have easy to setup installation  -
[20:38] <bobweaver> aaas,  like myth-tv ?
[20:38] <ViaNocturna85> RomeoAva: Could you paste the error from 'sudo apt-get update'?
[20:38] <aaas> bobweaver yeah like mythtv but much faster channel swtiching
[20:38] <GandalfB> I'm going to go away and do some reading, thanks guys
[20:38] <Pici> GandalfB: To be honest, I find the xampp install to be stranger than our install.
[20:38] <bobweaver> aaas,  ever think about joining the channel #ubuntu-tv ?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> jav77: if you run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings      set the resolution and refresh to something, click 'Save to X config file', then run:   gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     in the screen section set the res you desire. Save the new file, close gedit and reboot
[20:39] <aaas> bobweaver ill try that maybe they'll have some insight thanks
[20:39] <bobweaver> aaas,  I am sure that one of will
[20:40] <ikonia> GandalfB: you will hit nothing but longer term pain using xampp
[20:40] <ikonia> and you won't get support from channels such as this one
   http://pastebin.com/LK3sLzKS
[20:43] <jav77> thank you. How do I enable ac3 and dolby digital passthrough?
[20:43] <jav77> i remember having to do something with asound.conf and installing alsa plugins or something
[20:44] <ViaNocturna85> RomeoAva: give me a moment while i check that
[20:44] <RomeoAva> thanks so much
[20:45] <RomeoAva> I have about one hour already
[20:46] <RomeoAva> checking the prices for windoz 8
[20:46] <max999> i would not even use windows 8 if THEY pay ME ;)
[20:46] <ikonia> it's called "Windows"
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> jav77: did you get the res sorted?
[20:47] <jav77> not yet. I wanted to deal with sound before rebooting
[20:49] <ViaNocturna85> RomeoAva: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: can you give the output of:   grep -R partner /etc/apt/*     Thanks
[20:49] <RomeoAva> ubuntu 12.10
 how to do that?
[20:50] <RomeoAva> please
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: run the command, make a pastebin of the text
[20:50] <RomeoAva> ok
[20:52] <RomeoAva> http://pastebin.com/NP427k7n
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list.save /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list.distUpgrade /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade /etc/apt/sources.list.save
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: those files are of no value to you
[20:54] <almoxarife> RomeoAva: the fix is shown here, http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/ , you have duplicate 'partner' repos
[20:55] <pete_> glusterfs
[20:55] <jav77> the display change did not work. What I did see is that at the log on screen the resolution and size are correct
 done. nothing happened
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?
 I told you, I have done http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/w-duplicate-sources-list-entry-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: the first command simply trimmed some useless files
 the same eror came
[20:57] <RomeoAva> ok
[20:57] <p0e> is there any practical difference with having a boot/swap partition coming after root, as opposed to before it?
[20:58] <RomeoAva> what next?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: ok, rerun:  grep -R partner /etc/apt/*     and pastebin the text again please
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> p0e: none at all, it doesn't matter
[20:58] <p0e> i didnt think so
[20:58] <RomeoAva> is shorter
[20:58] <gaussblurinc> hello! does anybody knows good utility to restore deleted files?
[20:58] <jav77> i also noticed that in the log on screen, my tv goes to Wide PC. Once I log on, it goes to Just Scan (my preferred option). How can I change these settings? Where did the overscan bar go from Nvidia
[20:58] <tontimer> Hi
[20:59] <RomeoAva> http://pastebin.com/MmN3tJjx
[20:59] <p0e> if i'm dual booting with 7 do i need to specify a /boot partition, or will it use the windows reserved one? i'm reading 2 different guides and one says to do it, and once says not necessary
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> gaussblurinc  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list; sudo apt-get update        and you'll be fine
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> gaussblurinc: try using your backups
[21:00] <RomeoAva> :)
[21:00] <gaussblurinc> ActionParsnip: backups... are they automatic nowdays?
[21:00] <tontimer> I bought a laptop with an AMD Radeon™ HD 7310  but I cannot get fglrx drivers to work. I've tried the AMD beta drivers 12.11 (beta11) and didn't work. Unity won't start (neither lightdm). Any ideas?
[21:00] <Pe3k> hello, I have ubuntu 12.04, and automated mounting does not work, I am able to mount attached usb drive manually using udisks. udisks-daemon is running, also gvfs-afc-volume-monitor is running, any idea what else to check ?
[21:01] <RomeoAva> you right: Reading package lists... Done
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> gaussblurinc: no but if your data is important, you will ave made backups
[21:01] <RomeoAva> no error
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: read the 2nd pastebin, you can see why I advised how I did
[21:01] <gaussblurinc> ActionParsnip: I just lost one directory :\
[21:01] <RomeoAva> ok
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> gaussblurinc: I suggest you look into a backup regime
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> gaussblurinc: you will now need a partition mounted writable with the same size as the partition you are recoving from and use foremost in liveCD
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> gaussblurinc  this could be an automatic backup command in crontab  # 0 5 * * 1 tar -zcf /var/backups/home.tgz /home/
[21:04] <RomeoAva> I read it 3 times, but I did't catch   :(
[21:05] <Jordan_U> p0e: Neither, unless you're talking about UEFI and the EFI System Partition.
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: each file used ends in '.list'   you have 2 .list files with the partner repo named, one is the main sources.list file, the other is an extra file. So you deleted that file and cleared the issue
[21:05] <p0e> jordan, i'm too old to konw what you're talking about lol
[21:05] <RomeoAva> ok, now I see, thank you
[21:05] <gaussblurinc> MonkeyDust: uh, thank you, but it commented anyway :\
[21:06] <gaussblurinc> ActionParsnip: foremost?
[21:06] <RomeoAva> now is time to check. I will reboot to see what is going on
[21:06] <p0e> i have sd1/nfts winboot, sda2/nfs windows, so sda3 goes ext4 for linux, with sda4 being split into logical to have swap/boot? and thats it?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> gaussblurinc: yes, foremost
[21:07] <RomeoAva> so simple :)
[21:07] <RomeoAva> brb
[21:07] <JadeKnight> I get the same issue on booting.
[21:08] <Jordan_U> p0e: I recommend using the automatic partitioning in Ubuntu's installer, which will set things up properly. If you want to know though, you almost never need a separate /boot/ partition. If you're using BIOS + an msdos partition table, then you only need the one root partition and a swap partition (or swap file), if you're using BIOS + GPT then you need a BIOS Boot Partition (which is *not* a /boot/ partition), and if you're using ...
[21:08] <Jordan_U> ... UEFI then you need an EFI System Partition (which is also not a /boot/ partition).
[21:09] <JadeKnight> When i boot the system, half the screen goes black.
[21:09] <p0e> i see. at the moment i've only installed win7 and have everything else as unallocated, if I want to create a NFTS dump with the bulk of that space then just create it at the end of the drive and use ubuntu to automatically allocate the middle?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> romeoAva: Its Linux, it is simple :)
[21:11] <RomeoAva> I'm back. the same problem. Low resolution. And in Displays is only (4:3) aviable. I can't change it. But the mouse is not blinking and the desktop is clear
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: what video chip? What make and model system?
[21:12] <pilotbub> how about that Twitter rape of 12-12-12?
[21:12] <guntbert> pilotbub: wrong window
[21:13] <pilotbub> they ruined the world's vintage profiles
[21:13] <Pici> pilotbub: this is the Ubuntu support channel. you're in the wrong place.
[21:13] <RomeoAva> Acer Aspire 5742G, Intel Core i5-480M, NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
[21:14] <RomeoAva> but the comp runs very well until 7 days ago
[21:14] <RomeoAva> after a regular dayly update
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: oh, you have that Optimus garbage
[21:14] <RomeoAva> sorry
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: thats a tonne of headaches in Linux
[21:14] <msk__> hi guys i am having some problems with wireless from my lenovo z570 laptop, it says wireless disabled by hardware switch what should i do,
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: look into Bumblebee but it's far from good.
[21:15] <RomeoAva> I was thisnking I will runn with GeForce
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: if you can, disable one of the GPUs
[21:15] <guntbert> msk__: enable the hardware switch?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: your Intel has an inbuilt GPU: http://ark.intel.com/products/52952
[21:16] <RomeoAva> i know
[21:16] <msk__> guntbert sure i did :D i try mint 13 live cd, it works but not at ubuntu 12.04
[21:17] <RomeoAva> I didn't install the video driver after udgrade to 12.10
[21:17] <RomeoAva> I have it only in 12.04
[21:18] <guntbert> msk__: strange, (I am blessed with a wifi thats always working (T60)) - so no help from me, sorry
[21:18] <RomeoAva> I know is a trick with NVIDIA driver, but I miss the link about
[21:18] <Guest91312> Ive got a dual boot with wubi of windows 7 and ubuntu 12.04. I accidentally set the windows boot loader to boot to ubuntu automatically. Can I fix this in Ubuntu?
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: its rare for proprietary video drivers to survive a release change
[21:18] <RomeoAva> :)
[21:19] <msk__> guntbert it is ok, itried everything from ho to's i ll destroy ubuntu dvd right now :/
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: I recommend you uninstall the driver, reboot to the new kernel then reinstall it
[21:19] <RomeoAva> what driver?
[21:19] <RomeoAva> I didn't install it
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: so you are using nouveau/
[21:20] <marianne> anyone out there running 5.1 surround sound on 12.04?
[21:20] <RomeoAva> I has so happy with 12.10 because my Samsung Multy laser Scanner works perfectly at start
[21:21] <RomeoAva> because in 12.04 I can't use the scanner and I trayed so many nights to fixe it
[21:21] <hunger993> Hey guys. So I used a USB CD drive, and now my mouse sticks about once a second even after i unplugged it. It happened when i was using windows xp too, but it would go away after i unplugged it. and i have rebooted since i removed the drive.
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: could go for a clean install of quantal rather than an upgrade
[21:21] <RomeoAva> the Skye, the webcam, the printer, the scanner,, all works at start
[21:22] <RomeoAva> :(
[21:22] <RomeoAva> but worked
[21:23] <RomeoAva> lets tray to fix it
[21:23] <Slart> hunger993: no error messages in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log?
[21:23] <RomeoAva> Linux is simple
[21:23] <RomeoAva> just simple
[21:24] <hunger993> slart: how do i check?
[21:24] <RomeoAva> I use Ubuntu for 4 years and 4 mounts already
[21:24] <pgib> Depends on what you mean by "simple" and by "Linux"
[21:24] <Slart> hunger993: run this in a terminal     tail /var/log/syslog     you'll get the last 10 lines from the syslog file
[21:25] <p0e> bill clinton would also ask what the definition of "is" is
[21:26] <RomeoAva> I need to make it function because my friend will laugh at me
[21:26] <hunger993> Slart: Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Successfully made thread 2229 of process 2194 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 5.
[21:26] <hunger993> Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Supervising 5 threads of 2 processes of 2 users.
[21:26] <hunger993> Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Successfully made thread 2230 of process 2194 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 5.
[21:26] <hunger993> Dec 12 15:47:44 hunger993-Latitude-D430 rtkit-daemon[1751]: Supervising 6 threads of 2 processes of 2 users.
[21:26] <hunger993> Dec 12 15:47:50 hunger993-Latitude-D430 NetworkManager[782]: <info> (wlan0): IP6 addrconf timed out or failed.
[21:26] <hunger993> Dec 12 15:47:50 hunger993-Latitude-D430 NetworkManager[782]: <info> Activation (wlan0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv6 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
[21:26] <FloodBot1> hunger993: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <pgib> right. but "linux" is such an overloaded term nowadays. I couldn't really agree that it is "Simple", not even if you limit the definition to only the kernel.
[21:26] <Slart> hunger993: no no no.. don't paste it into the channel.. there are almost 2000 people here.. they don't want to see that
[21:26] <Slart> !pastebin | hunger993
[21:27] <hunger993> sorry floodbot
[21:27] <hunger993> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428438/
[21:27] <Slart> hunger993: hmm.. nothing strange there
[21:28] <hunger993> slart: so. What do?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> hunger993: you can disable ipv6 using the boot option:   ipv6.disable=1
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> hunger993: i assume you don't use ipv6
[21:29] <hunger993> not that i know of
[21:29] <Slart> hunger993: I would try another mouse and see if the problem persists.. it might be a software problem or it might just be a semi-broken mouse
[21:30] <RomeoAva> About my Software Source/ Other Software, I think there are to many repository. Sam untick. How to be shore is ok?
[21:30] <Slart> hunger993: also I would try cleaning the mouse sensor, replace batteries and such
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: there is no limit, you can have as many as you want :)
[21:30] <hunger993> its my trackpad. same thing happens with the nub mouse on the keyboard
[21:30] <RomeoAva> ok
[21:30] <Slart> hunger993: the thing with the cd drive might just a be random coincidence
[21:31] <krnlpanick> greets all
[21:31] <hunger993> Slart: well it happend when i ran xp, but it would go away after i unplugged
[21:31] <Slart> hunger993: ah.. they both act the same? then it sounds like a software problem.. but you got the same thing in windows?
[21:32] <krnlpanick> Seems like download servers are going ridiculously slow today - anyone else having issues? getting 20k/m on 12.10-server :(
[21:32] <hunger993> Slart: yep
[21:32] <p0e> krnlpanick, i just downloaded about 30min, was ~1.5mb
[21:32] <srccon> My iPhone just died, should I wait for ubuntu for android to come out "soon"
[21:32] <RomeoAva> I remember the problems starts  a few days ago when I turn off the comp and there was an warning: the Gnome is not finis yet or is not responding. But I close it any way. Do you think cud be that?
[21:32] <Slart> hunger993: odd.. the only thing I can think of that might show up in both windows and linux would be some kind of interrupt problem.. not really sure how to diagnose something like that
[21:32] <p0e> but the stream kept failing and i'd have to manually restart it every 30-60sec
[21:33] <RomeoAva> because was stuck
[21:34] <hunger993> Slart: it seems like its slowly getting better, like now its once every 3 seconds. which is almost stranger than the problem itself
[21:34] <RomeoAva> when I sad that the resolution is bad that means I cant use the laptop for video projector. The Display settings is not properly working
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: I anticipate lots of issues with display
[21:35] <younder> RomeoAva, they never are are they
[21:35] <younder> RomeoAva, Are you sure you got the UNIX version?
[21:35] <RomeoAva> but worked very well
[21:36] <RomeoAva> ?
[21:36] <RomeoAva> what you meand?
[21:36] <pgib> hunger993, you could check to see if it is some poisoned configuration in your gnome, gtk, or X settings.  Create another user and log in as them.  Perhaps something is bogus in your "dot config" files
[21:37] <younder> RomeoAva, You know Ubuntu is a Unix system right. So you need Unix dirvers
[21:37] <RomeoAva> tomorow I need to use the videoprojector then I need to fix it
[21:37] <younder> You haven't got one.. well It won't work. simple as tht
[21:38] <RomeoAva> ok
[21:38] <hunger993> pgib: i will try. brblol
[21:38] <RomeoAva> how can we fix that bug, please
[21:38] <RomeoAva> any tray?
[21:38] <pgib> http://i.qkme.me/35bcci.jpg It's a Unix system!
[21:38] <RomeoAva> my wife is waiting for the comp, but I sat that I need to fix it
[21:39] <RomeoAva> then I'm here for you
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: use bumblebee but you'll probably have issues, its best avoided
[21:39] <RomeoAva> yes this is
[21:39] <RomeoAva> now I remeber the agly name
[21:39] <lime__> Why doesn't the following work for assigning a keyboard click to a keyboard key?
[21:40] <krnlpanick> anyone - slow downloads today? don't think it is my interwebz, I have no problem d/ling other stuff
[21:40] <younder> That said Ubuntu has some of the dtrongest hardware support of ny linux system. That , in fact, is why I prefer it
[21:40] <krnlpanick> 20k/s is sloooowwww
[21:40] <lime__> xmodma -e "syskey a = PointerButton_1"
[21:40] <younder> It is.. I do 1500
[21:40] <Cliche> I have a question regarding GRUB?
[21:41] <RomeoAva> we can't fix the gnome? or the Unity?
[21:41] <younder> Cliche, GRUB or GRUB2
[21:41] <RomeoAva> to check if is ok?
[21:42] <younder> They are vastly different
[21:42] <RomeoAva> can we check the entire 12.10 if has isues and what one?
[21:42] <Cliche> I had Ubuntu installed beside Win7 before, but had uninstalled it after a while. However, Ubuntu was still an option (deadlink) upon system boot. So, I reinstalled Ubuntu and now I have two Ubuntu options. One of which works, the other is a deadlink. How do I fix this issue?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> RomeoAva: could install xfce4 and then log in to that from LightDM
[21:43] <younder> RomeoAva,  we can and will.. We are the sotware comunity. Be vigilant!
[21:43] <younder> RomeoAva,  lol
[21:43] <RomeoAva> :)
[21:43] <RomeoAva> I'm here
[21:44] <RomeoAva> Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment
[21:45] <RomeoAva> i dont like it
[21:45] <RomeoAva> unity is beter
[21:46] <test> USB CD drive sticky mouse problem guy is back
[21:46] <RomeoAva> how I can check the Unity, and fix it?
[21:47] <hunger993> Slarg: i logged out and back in under a new user. still sticks
[21:47] <tontimer> Hi, I bought a laptop with an AMD Radeon™ HD 7310 graphics card but I cannot get fglrx drivers to work. I've tried the AMD beta drivers 12.11 (beta11) and didn't work either. Unity won't start (neither lightdm). Any ideas?
[21:48] <RomeoAva> but??? maybe I have the bumblebee? How can we see?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: if you press CTRL+ALT+T   does a terminal load?
[21:49] <tontimer> nope
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> tontimer: is the system fully updated?
[21:50] <younder> A;MD is generarally worse supported than NVIDEA
[21:50] <tontimer> yes
[21:50] <tontimer> fully updated
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> younder: not much less nowadays :)
[21:50] <younder> That's al I can say having a GTX 680 myself
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> younder: its nvidia too, not nvidea
[21:50] <tontimer> ActionParsnip: i did a fresh ubuntu 12.10install, updated everything and then I tried to install the propietary drivers
[21:51] <younder> ActionParsnip, glad you said that. How is the support for the AMD radeon HD  7310 anyhow
[21:52] <younder> Thought so
[21:52] <Zodihax> I installed ubuntu on my 2nd SSD with windows still being on my first SSD, but upon trying to boot my first SSD now, windows doesnt boot.. all thats happening is the blinking "-"
[21:53] <Zodihax> anyone happen to know whats wrong and how to fix it?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> younder: no idea, I only buy nvidia things
[21:53] <younder> ActionParsnip, Mee too
[21:53] <Zodihax> and when attempting to boot windows from grub on the 2nd SSD, im left with "invalid EFI path" (or something like that)
[21:53] <ironhalik> With multi-monitor setup, how can I make the launcher to not intercept my mouse when crossing between two displays?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> younder: did you run:  sudo aticonfig --initial    before rebooting?
[21:54] <DWSR> halp? http://pastebin.com/xzUYW8k3
[21:54] <M13> hello
[21:54] <srccon> My phone just died, should I wait for Ubuntu for android before buying a replacement?
[21:54] <ironhalik> In CCSM, I set all the launcher variables to 1, and it should be working bow, but it does not
[21:54] <younder> ActionParsnip For change I tried a AMD card in two months, two, it broke, and I was sendt back to onboard graphics
[21:54] <M13> how do you make a website on a Ubuntu Server
[21:55] <_andyj_> ironhalik: settings -> appearance -> sticky edges
[21:55] <M13> ?
[21:55] <DWSR> srccon: Ubuntu for Android? You're hilarious
[21:55] <DWSR> srccon: get out, troll.
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> M13: install apache2
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: its being developed
[21:55] <M13> and I can runa website?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> M13: yes
[21:55] <ironhalik> _andyj_: It's not it, I'm using launcher autohide, so it catches the mouse trying to reveal the launcher
[21:55] <srccon> ?DWSR, should I go to a Android IRC?
[21:55] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: You do realize how completely dumb "Ubuntu for Android" is?
[21:55] <M13> ok thnx
[21:55] <younder> ActionParsnip, True It was a cheap card, but..
[21:56] <DWSR> Ubuntu for Android is like saying Linux for Linux.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: its not, you run both OSes, new android phones have anough power to run Ubuntu
[21:56] <_andyj_> ironhalik: oh, not sure how to get rid of that one
[21:56] <DWSR> Ubuntu for Android is like saying Linux for Linux.
[21:56] <ironhalik> also, my CCSM had all the plugins disabled for some reason - maybe it's not working properly?
[21:56] <srccon> DWSR True, it is technically linux on linux
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY   go see the future
[21:57] <srccon> ActionParsnip what is your take on the Ubuntu for Android
[21:57] <xatr0z> After installing some updates on Ubuntu 12.10 and removing samba and installing samba4 from repository, everything worked fine. Next day after reboot I can't login via the GUI and also via the commandline and SSH. However: when I try to login with username xatr0z and some madup password, it says "Login incorrect", and below that I can try to login again. IF I use my CORRECT password I _DONT_ see "Login incorrect", but the entire screen is cleared before I ...
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> younder: I think its exciting
[21:57] <xatr0z> ... can enter my username again. Does anybody know what mightve gone wrong? It's the only useraccount so I can't test with another one.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> srccon: I think its exciting
[21:58] <DWSR> anyone? http://pastebin.com/xzUYW8k3
[21:58] <Steve132> I try to connect a USB 3.0 hard drive...it works on USB 2.0 port, but when I connect to USB 3.0 port nothing happens.   Here's dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428504/
[21:58] <younder> Linux is linux. windows is windosw. etc. we all are fans of something. I generallly like the idea of open sotftware. So I am fore linux
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: Ubuntu is a distribution, it runs in the background. Linux is only the kernel
[21:58] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu shouldn't require recompiling for Android, then.
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: what is the output of:    lsb_release -sc
[21:58] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: err, porting rather
[21:59] <DWSR> It should require just recompiling for ARM. And off you go
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: it needs tweaking to run on the platform
[21:59] <DWSR> Since the kernel is GUN/Linux.
[21:59] <DWSR> GNU*
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: drivers etc
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: it wil probably be a separate firmware etc
[21:59] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: Drivers don't require a port. They're just a rewrite. This doesn't make the project any less pointless.
[21:59] <DWSR> But anyway.
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: anyway
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: what is the output of:    lsb_release -sc
[22:00] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: I'm on precise.
[22:00] <younder> GNU/LINUX is te base of ALL linuxen. Your call.. Your blessing.. You should rejoice ;)
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: run:   echo "libc6-dev hold" | dpkg --set-selections; apt-get -f install        as root
[22:01] <younder> sorry for the PEP talk but you seem to have forgotten why we are all here..
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: source: http://ilostmynotes.blogspot.in/
[22:01] <younder> I LOVE my Ubuntu
[22:02] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: Lovely.
[22:02] <Steve132> Any thoughts on http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428504/ ?  Googling the -108 error doesn't seem to get any solutions,
[22:02] <DWSR> younder: We're going to gloss over the fact that design paradigms for mobile/touchscreen vs. traditional desktop are completely different, then gloss over the fact that you're not really running Ubuntu ON Android as much as just running Gnome on Android.
[22:03] <DWSR> younder: But yes. Completely the same thing.
[22:03] <younder> I know it to it's deepest core as a hacker (not cracker) should and try to be helpful here.
[22:04] <DWSR> ActionParsnip: Any idea why the issue arises?
[22:04] <younder> DWSR, No I am not. ut we will overcome those pproblems
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: no idea at all
[22:04] <DWSR> younder: They're not problems. They're just inherent design differences.
[22:04] <younder> True
[22:04] <DWSR> younder: I'm merely pointing out that you're not porting Ubuntu to Android.
[22:05] <younder> DWSR, No I am not
[22:05] <DWSR> The whole project isn't.
[22:06] <DWSR> Also, if Android is already GNU/Linux, why the fuss over thed drivers. You already ahve a Linux kernel loaded. Can't you just piggy back?
[22:06] <DWSR> This seems like it should be hilariously easy as compared to some other projects I've seen
[22:06] <younder> DWSR, http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> DWSR: there will be an amount of porting. Otherwise it would be fully available now
[22:06] <younder> lol
[22:06] <Pe3k> hello, pls help, I uninstalled udisks and after restart I am not able to start X session - after entering password only for short time text mode is displayed and then it switches back to login screen ...
[22:07] <dr_willis> !info udisks
[22:07] <younder> I kinda expected as much. The Ubuntu comunity if about 1000 000 people by now.
[22:07] <zodihax> i installed ubuntu on a second ssd while keeping windows on my first ssd.. now after installing ubuntu i cant launch windows neither via booting the first ssd nor by grub.. anyone happen to know whats wrong? thanks
[22:07] <dr_willis> Pe3k:  canyou login at teh console? tried making a new user to see if they can login>
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> zodihax: your Grub2 should be able to boot Windows
[22:08] <zodihax> it says something about wrong EFI path
[22:08] <zodihax> grub2 that is
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> zodihax: if you didn't overwrite the MBR for Windows, you can set the boot device to the 1st SSD and it should boot
[22:08] <escott> zodihax, was the first ssd gpt/EFI?
[22:08] <younder> You erased that EFI.. shudder?
[22:09] <Pe3k> dr_willis: I havent tried this, but there is also guest session and it behaves exactly same
[22:09] <zodihax> im unsure whether it was gpt/EFI sorry.. and ActionParsnip no I cant boot windows by selecting that SSD as a boot device (im stuck with a blinking "-")
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> !efi
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> gah
[22:09] <escott> zodihax, can you boot to the usb installer and run "sudo parted -l" for us
[22:09] <dr_willis> Pe3k:  why did you Uninstall udisks?  try reinstalling the ubuntu default disk with 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' perhaps
[22:09] <younder> I have got around this but it goes into that advanced partioning tool at the strt
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> zodihax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[22:10] <younder> Are ouy ready to take that on?
[22:10] <zodihax> partition table: msdos
[22:10] <c_smith> zodihax, I've had similar issues, are you running 12.10 or 12.04?
[22:10] <younder> I always use non standard partioning for my discs
[22:10] <zodihax> 12.10
[22:11] <younder> Worked a miracle for me
[22:11] <zodihax> its weird though as my windows SSD shouldnt have been affected by me installing ubuntu on another disk right? it kinda sucks too, i sort of need my windows to practice for my programming exams
[22:11] <c_smith> zodihax, does it say either "Secure Boot not enabled" or "Secure Boot enabled" on boot of the LiveCD?
[22:11] <younder> I aslo managed the effi problem
[22:12] <c_smith> if it says one of those, then you know it's UEFI
[22:12] <Pe3k> dr_willis: because automated mounting was not working and this was 'succesful' way how to correct it - uninstall and back install - but this did not help me - and - weird thing - after installing udisks-daemon is not running :(
[22:12] <zodihax> im pretty sure its UEFI, as the ubuntu disk has a UEFI label on it in BIOS
[22:12] <c_smith> if it doesn't, it most likely means it was either a poorly implemented or faked UEFI implemented.
[22:12] <escott> zodihax, are both msdos? or is only one msdos the other gpt?
[22:12] <younder> You need a UFFI artion choose the smallest. about 200 M
[22:12] <zodihax> my windows is msdos, linux is gpt
[22:13]  * c_smith is confused
[22:13] <younder> Then don't f*** with it
[22:13] <c_smith> are you talking partitions or disks?
[22:13] <dr_willis> Pe3k:  also as a test. install some alternative window manager/desktop such as openbox, or lubuntu-desktop see if you can login to those
[22:13] <zodihax> sudo parted -l
[22:13] <escott> zodihax, my guess would be that the system is prefering to boot the second ssd in efi mode b/c it is gpt
[22:13] <zodihax> shows one of my ssds as gpt and one as msdos
[22:13] <Pe3k> dr_willis: ok I will try..
[22:13] <c_smith> zodihax, ah, I see.
[22:14] <c_smith> zodihax, you COULD try a new installation of Ubuntu and manually set up the EFI partition.
[22:14] <zodihax> sorry, im trying to cooperate but i havent used ubuntu in three years and im kind of stressed out by this all atm :D
[22:14] <escott> zodihax, and that may be messing things up for the bios mode windows. i would go into efi setup and force the boot to bios, then chroot into the installed linux system and remove grub-efi and install grub
[22:14] <c_smith> not the most convenient, but still.
[22:15] <fabricio_> Hey, I seen to have a very bad problem, I accidentally did install a older version of WINE on my Linux, and now I cant update or remove it, dependencies broken....
[22:15] <zodihax> hm yeah i thought abiout that actually.. but i cant find any option to disable UEFI or force bios in my bios-setup thing
[22:15] <escott> zodihax, if you dont mind reinstalling linux that could be easier
[22:15] <fabricio_> How I can fix it?
[22:15] <zodihax> i did just reinstall ubuntu actually, i selected "erase 12.10 and install" though
[22:15] <c_smith> fabricio_, sudo apt-get purge wine && sudo apt-get install wine
[22:15] <escott> zodihax, go into efi setup, and change the boot preference for the usb flash drive to bios (it is probably set as efi) then reinstall ubuntu (it should set things up for bios mode)
[22:15] <zodihax> i dont mind if i cant boot windows from grub, i just want to be able to boot windows when i select that particular disk as a boot device
[22:15] <c_smith> fabricio_, enter those into Terminal.
[22:15] <fabricio_> But the dependencies of wine are broken, I will test that anyways
[22:16] <fabricio_> Hold on okay?
[22:16] <younder> The only way to TRULY erase if to reformat
[22:16] <escott> zodihax, trying to switch disks and boot methods is going to be a problem
[22:16] <younder> just so you know
[22:16] <escott> zodihax, you want both ubuntu and windows to boot bios not efi
[22:16] <zodihax> escott ok ill try to do that then, anything else I should think about while doing it?
[22:16] <c_smith> fabricio_, let me change that, sudo apt-get purge wine && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install wine
[22:16] <fabricio_> Okay, I did not have any problems by now
[22:17] <zodihax> and tips on how I may configure my USB to boot bios in efi setup? im not exactly experienced in there
[22:17] <c_smith> fabricio_, that will get rid of wine, then the unneeded dependencies, then reinstall Wine from the repos.
[22:17] <zodihax> actually ill just try, and come back again.. thanks for the help guys, cu in a few if i cant figure it out :)
[22:17] <max999> fabricio_, you could just install playonlinux. its an app that allows you to install a lot of programs (not only games) that would be troublesome without and to manage as many wine versions at once as u wish (you can select for each application with which wine version you want it to run).
[22:17] <fabricio_> It WORKED! Thanks man
[22:17] <c_smith> fabricio_, no prob.
[22:17] <fabricio_> Thanks very much C_smith
[22:18] <younder> my recommendation is to get rid of that narly windows
[22:18] <c_smith> fabricio_, I just wouldn't recommend using that all the time.
[22:18] <younder> But, hey, thats me
[22:18] <c_smith> I've managed to bork up my system by purging Wine, wanted to remove Grub along with Wine and a bunch of other system apps.
[22:19] <fabricio_> Wine it removed the old version and did install the version that actually dont let any thing broke?
[22:19] <escott> zodihax, can't say what your efi setup menu will look like
[22:19] <c_smith> fabricio_, if you want, I can explain what that command, well, actually the 3 commands did.
[22:19] <fabricio_> Holy mother of god, I need to download the 365 MB of updates on my Linux 12.04 LTS
[22:19] <c_smith> && is basically bash shorthand. :P
[22:19] <younder> Wine sucks! I wish I was a windows machine -) Well YOU ARE NOT :) YOU ARE A UNIX MACHINE :)
[22:20] <c_smith> fabricio_, not unheard of.
[22:20] <fabricio_> I have windows  :P
[22:20] <c_smith> younder, it's his choice......
[22:20] <max999> i made any program i wanted to run on linux yet
[22:20] <fabricio_> LTS is a Long Term Version, or a version of ubuntu that have extended support for 2/3 years
[22:20] <younder> c_smith, and that is the truth
[22:21] <fabricio_> Or means, I will not upgrade linux until the 13.04 version
[22:21] <kostkon> fac
[22:21] <kostkon> whoops
[22:21] <kostkon> fabricio_, 5 years for 12.04
[22:21] <fabricio_> Oh, thanks Kost
[22:21] <c_smith> fabricio_, what those commands did is got rid of Wine and it's config files (sudo apt-get purge wine) then removed any unneded packages (sudo apt-get autoremove) then reinstalled wine (sudo apt-get install wine)
[22:21] <c_smith> fabricio_, so basically 17.04
[22:21] <younder> fabricio_, definitely I recommend the long term version
[22:21] <c_smith> which is a waaaays off.
[22:22] <fabricio_> Long Term Support, not Version.
[22:22] <c_smith> I may end up going the LTS route myself when I get the PC I ordered tomorrow.
[22:22] <fabricio_> Piss........Lots and lots of updates ._.
[22:23] <younder> fabricio_, THE UPDATES ARE NECCESATY
[22:23] <fabricio_> And the updates are not messy or crashing the OS when downloading.....
[22:23] <younder> fabricio_, go for it
[22:24] <fabricio_> Okay, 365 megabytes aren't a problem for me. Even my internet download speed is 140KB- 135KB.
[22:25] <serp_> i usually dont update my ubuntu
[22:25] <fabricio_> It is a 1MB internet Cable Modem from Motorola
[22:25] <serp_> i think it is safe enough out of the box
[22:25] <roychri> Inside /lib/modules I have a bunch of 3.2.0-34-generic-pae folders (different version).  I am looking to fre up some disk space and I wonder if I really need all of them?  anyone know?
[22:25] <serp_> othereidr they wouldnt release it
[22:26] <fabricio_> Okay, I did have a REPOS already in my PC for wine, I did the commands, so it removed the old thing and replaced with the stable, good version of it?
[22:27] <almoxarife> roychri: you would be safer to use 'bleachbit' as root to gain space
[22:28] <fabricio_> I will now uninstall the only program installed on wine, Counter Strike with Half Life .-.
[22:28] <fabricio_> I am not really sure to remove that
[22:28] <fabricio_> Should I?
[22:29] <dr_willis> fabricio_:  not really much reason to uninstall the games.. unless you need the space.
[22:29] <fabricio_> oh, and BTW, its dinner time here, so I will be AFK for a while
[22:29] <roychri> almoxarife: Thanks, I will look into it
[22:29] <Pe3k> dr_willis: ok, it works for guest - new window manager starts and also usb flash memory works there :) ... but, how to set this window manager for standard user? (me) - I can not find anything for choosing window manager when logging in
[22:30] <Pe3k> dr_willis: ok I found it ...
[22:31] <Pe3k> dr_willis: thanks again
[22:32] <roasted> I'm beyond confused. I put two USB HDD's on my desktop to rsync the data. Once done, I put each USB HDD onto its own box. I'm now rsyncing again and it's redoing EVERYTHIGN, despite the fact the data exists already on the other drive.
[22:33] <stfu> irc.rizon.net
[22:33] <Zodihax> hey guys. I may have been a complete tool mistaking one of my normal HDDs for my SSD, hence why I couldnt boot windows when selecting that SSD as a boot device (because I didnt).. so im on windows again now at least! installing ubuntu non-uefi turned out to be horrible (grub could install etc) but ill try to figure that out later.. thanks for helping me :)
[22:33] <fabricio_> Back :D
[22:34] <fabricio_> What the Ex-Chat thing means?
[22:36] <fabricio_> Could someone answer?
[22:38] <fabricio_> Dr.Kleiner : Great Scott, Gordon Freeman!
[22:38] <fabricio_> Hey all, what EX-CHAT means?
[22:39] <Miebster> how do I use apt-get to get an older version of something?
[22:39] <Miebster> I want thunderbird 14
[22:40] <ironhalik> hmm, I mount my second driva via fstab, on boot. Nautilus shows it in the Devices list twice, as a hard drive and as a external drive (?). Any ideas?
[22:49] <Gaddel> would someone be willing to help me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2093871
[22:50] <xangua> !here | Gaddel
[22:51] <fabricio_raszeja> Hi, err, I changed my username. the raszeja is my last name
[22:51] <Gaddel> okay. i have an elantech touchpad and i am not able to use any of the ubuntu/xubuntu touchpad settings to modify it. and synclient -l says "no synaptics drivers loaded"
[22:52] <fabricio_raszeja> hey, I can give a guess? sudo_apt get synclient? What?
[22:52] <fabricio_raszeja> I can be wrong......
[22:52] <Gaddel> fabricio_raszeja: i have synclient and i have all the synaptics drivers installed
[22:52] <fabricio_raszeja> Because I have NO IDEA
[22:52] <pgib> Miebster, apt-get install appname=version
[22:52] <pgib> Miebster, that of course assumes the version is available and it probably isn't
[22:54] <fabricio_raszeja> Okay. Don't use windows steam on ubuntu with wine, it makes the game's graphics weird, since the DirectX of wine is pretty bad.
[22:55] <fabricio_raszeja> Hey, I see on the internet that VALVE will exit windows and launch a Linux Steam on 2013, is that right?
[22:55] <fabricio_raszeja> Answer me. Please...
[22:55] <escott> fabricio_raszeja, they won't "exit windows"
[22:56] <pgib> fabricio_raszeja, there is already linux steam in private beta.  I doubt they are going to abandon windows though
[22:56] <fabricio_raszeja> Okay, they won't make a Windows 8 version, as Gabe Newell says
[22:56] <k1l_> fabricio_raszeja: yes, steam is in beta phase right now. but thats a topi fpr #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:56] <fabricio_raszeja> Oh
[22:57] <pgib> this channel is for boring stuff
[22:57] <ikonia> pgib: it's for ubuntu support, if that's not for you, type /part
[22:58] <fabricio_raszeja> This channel is for specially for ubuntu support, or, users helping users
[22:58] <ikonia> fabricio_raszeja: ubuntu support
[22:58] <pgib> I know that! I usually lurk here and help people when I'm on here.  Sorry that I answered fabricio_raszeja's question even though it was OT.
[22:59] <ikonia> pgib: nothing wrong with that,
[22:59] <younder> Hi ikonia
[22:59] <ikonia> hello
[23:00] <Guest17860> hi all , I am tring to install mysql-server but am getting errors back , can someone assist , here is my aptitud output http://pastebin.com/1GPJT0Kh
[23:00] <pgib> ikonia, ah, the "boring" comment. that was intended for fabricio and not in disgust over the chan rules.  sorry about that
[23:00] <ikonia> pgib: not a problem
[23:02] <magn3ts> You know what's great? Having wireless on a Mac still be a freaking nightmare in 2012. What's worse? The driver that is supposed to fix it simply doesn't build for a ton of people, despite being an ubuntu package.
[23:03] <ikonia> magn3ts: what a poor way to get help,
[23:03] <xangua> magn3ts: get a dongle that is supported :)
[23:03] <magn3ts> I don't expect help, it's a lament. I'm not proud of it but it is.
[23:03] <magn3ts> xangua: I've been doing precisely that :)
[23:04] <ikonia> magn3ts: if you dont want help, there is no need to mention it in this channel
[23:04] <ikonia> (please)
[23:04] <magn3ts> Ok.
[23:04] <ikonia> thanks
[23:05] <blip-> hi all, I was upgrading ubuntu 11.04 to 12.04 and it's now stuck on "2 minutes remaining.  Configuring nautilus-dropbox".   I think a nautilus process crashed, what should I do ?
[23:05] <blip-> I don't want to kill the upgrade, it's almost done, but it's stuck now
[23:05] <ikonia> blip-: did you not remove it ?
[23:05] <ikonia> blip-: the instructions say to remove all 3rd party software and PPA's
[23:05] <WACOMalt> Hi folks. I managed to get my xbox360 controller working on ubuntu, but the LEDs keep flashing, and in some games the left stick is 1/2 as effective as it should be. I have calibrated it. Anybody have any idea what could be the issue?
[23:05] <ikonia> (before upgrading)
[23:05] <jrib> blip-: also, what happened to 11.10?  Are you upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10?  Or 11.10 to 12.04?
[23:06] <blip-> ikonia, oh, I didn't notice that :/
[23:06] <blip-> I haven't used this computer for a long time
[23:06] <blip-> I just refreshed and searched for updates, and it offered to go to 12.04 straight from 11.04
[23:06] <jrib> blip-: no
[23:07] <jrib> blip-: were you on 10.04 before maybe?
[23:07] <Guest19876> im running black buntu, and everytime i have scrolled the mouse reel on 3 pcs, they have crashed and burned, is this normal
[23:07] <blip-> I did lsb-release check, it was either 11.04 or 11.10, i forgot sorry :)
[23:07] <phunyguy_t430s> Black Buntu?
[23:07] <blip-> oh it's 11.10
[23:08] <Guest19876> yes black buntu is a penetration testing software
[23:08] <ikonia> Guest19876: we don't support blackbuntu here
[23:08] <xangua> Guest19876: ask in your distro support channel/forum/whatever
[23:08] <ikonia> Guest19876: use the blackbuntu support resources
[23:08] <ikonia> (please)
[23:08] <blip-> It was 11.10 and upgarding to 12.04, didn't know i should remove PPA's so now it's stuck on configuring nautilus-dropbox
[23:08] <blip-> do I xkill the upgrade or ?
[23:09] <phunyguy_t430s> !info nautilus-dropbox
[23:09] <phunyguy_t430s> ..is that still considered 3rd party?
[23:09] <ikonia> it depends on dropbox....which is 3rd party
[23:09] <blip-> anyway ok i sinned... what's the solution now ? any recommendations ?
[23:10] <magn3ts> ikonia: I can phrase it as a question now-  how can I rebuild a dkms module that failed to installed without apt-get remove/install?
[23:10] <jrib> blip-: what's the upgrade window show you now?  Click on the little dropdown to show a terminal
[23:10] <phunyguy_t430s> OK ikonia, confusing I guess, considering it is a simple "sudo apt-get install nautilus-dropbox"
[23:10] <ikonia> phunyguy_t430s: really, so it doesn't actually depend on the dropbox client then
[23:11] <blip-> jrib, the last thing it did was downloading Dropbox and its stuck on 94% downloading
[23:11] <ikonia> magn3ts: there are some build instructions on the ubuntu wiki
[23:11] <phunyguy_t430s> ikonia, I've never had to do anything special with dropbox.
[23:11] <bilbonvidia> is there a netstat command that'll show remote tcp connection only, that is not show connections from the local host back to the local host - I want to grep for connections on a certain port but ignore local instances of that port
[23:11] <ikonia> phunyguy_t430s: be interesting to see if it pulls in anything from external, or if it's all built in
[23:11] <jrib> blip-: can you pastebin what you see in the terminal window?  You usually have an option to click on a drop-down arrow for "details" or "output" or "shell" or "terminal".  Something like that
[23:11] <jayar> how do i fix a degraded array?
[23:12] <ikonia> jayar: an mdadm array ?
[23:12] <Catbuntu> hi
[23:12] <Gaddel> hi
[23:12] <jayar> RAID-1
[23:12] <ikonia> jayar: an mdadm array ?
[23:12] <phunyguy_t430s> ikonia, yup.  it does.  Just tried it out
[23:12] <diverdude> I am trying to do mount -t ext4 /dev/md1 /media/md1 but get an error saying "wrong fs type". I also tried ext3 and other, but same error. Why can't i mount md1?
[23:12] <blip-> jrib, browser doesn't launch anymore.  In terminal says "94% Downloading Dropbox...." and that's the last output
[23:13] <ikonia> phunyguy_t430s: it does what (sorry just not sure what you mean)
[23:13] <dr_willis> nautilus-dropbox downloads dropbox from the dropbox site it seems. ;)
[23:13] <ikonia> diverdude: is md1 valid ?
[23:13] <phunyguy_t430s> ikonia, it downloads from dropbox.com
[23:13] <iceroot> diverdude: /dev/md1 ?  normally its /dev/mapper/... because md is raid
[23:13] <ikonia> phunyguy_t430s: ahh, there we go
[23:13] <phunyguy_t430s> you were right.
[23:13] <blip-> so dropbox servers went down ruining my distro upgrade ?
[23:13] <dr_willis> blip-:  dropbox downloads seem very slow/hung here also. their site may be having issues
[23:13] <diverdude> ikonia, i think so yes but im not sure...how can i tell?
[23:13] <magn3ts> ikonia: I think the answer was: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure bcmwl-kernel-source" but thanks anywho.
[23:13] <ikonia> blip-: no
[23:14] <ikonia> diverdude: what is md1 ?
[23:14] <dr_willis> blip-:  it just took off. ;) 99% one
[23:14] <ikonia> magn3ts: cool
[23:14] <diverdude> ikonia, thats a raid5 array
[23:14] <ikonia> diverdude: an mdadm array ?
[23:14] <diverdude> ikonia, yes exactly
[23:14] <ikonia> diverdude: look in /proc/mdstat
[23:14] <dr_willis> blip-:  then there was some warning/message about dropbox not being installed correctly. :P
[23:15] <diverdude> ikonia, yes
[23:15] <diverdude> ikonia, and then?
[23:15] <blip-> guys can I just skip nautilus-dropbox package ?  Dropbox can go to hell at this moment, I want my OS back :)
[23:15] <phunyguy_t430s> dr_willis, I got that same message
[23:15] <ikonia> diverdude: that will tell you if it's in a valid state
[23:15] <blip-> It's on 94% for 15 minutes now
[23:15] <dr_willis> phunyguy_t430s:  ;) not sure if its working or not.. heh
[23:15] <diverdude> ikonia, it looks fine...im not sure what to look for though
[23:15] <blip-> there is no cancel button on the distro upgrade
[23:15] <phunyguy_t430s> I dont want to log into mine and start pulling 150 gig to test either
[23:15] <ikonia> diverdude: can you pastebin it please.
[23:16] <diverdude> ikonia, yes
[23:16] <phunyguy_t430s> I have my dropboxd daemon running on the server and mapped to PCs with sftp.
[23:16] <dr_willis> dropdrive: 'dropbox is running from a unsupported location'
[23:16] <dr_willis> oops. :) miss tabed
[23:16] <simplew> hiw can change grub theme? in /etc/defaults/grub i have added this line: GRUB_THEME=/usr/share/grub/themes/starfield/theme.txt
[23:17] <simplew> will that line do what?
[23:17] <simplew> isnt there a way to test grub?
[23:17] <diverdude> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1428661/
[23:17] <dr_willis> message when i start dropbox service is  'dropbox is running from a unsupported location'  - seems it wants me to get the latest version
[23:18] <ikonia> diverdude: looks good, looks a little bit odd that the drives are maped as 0,1,2,4 rather than 0,1,2,3, but that doesn't it stop it being valid and active
[23:18] <blip-> ok problem solved as discussed here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=308bf981269ded9adb172503e3a82c43&t=1971123&page=2
[23:18] <blip-> sudo killall nautilus-dropbox dropbox
[23:18] <ikonia> diverdude: out of interest, sudo mount /dev/md1 /media/md1
[23:19] <blip-> so much for graphical installer...
[23:19] <ikonia> diverdude: what happens
[23:19] <diverdude> ikonia, it says: you must specify the file system
[23:19] <erncic> dr_willis: If memory serves, Ubuntu package runs from an unsupported location and the dropbox deb is a messy install. Files are located in unapproved areas.
[23:20] <ikonia> diverdude: has this device ever been used ?
[23:20] <ikonia> diverdude: or is it a new device ?
[23:20] <diverdude> ikonia, this is a brand new device
[23:20] <ikonia> diverdude: so have you put a file system on it yet ?
[23:21] <diverdude> ikonia, maybe i have not....that might be what i am missing
[23:21] <ikonia> diverdude: certainly sounds like it
[23:21] <diverdude> ikonia, how can i do that?
[23:21] <ikonia> diverdude: mkfs
[23:22] <diverdude> ikonia, mkfs -t ext4 /dev/md1 ?
[23:22] <shallwe> hi guys, can i disable alt + mouse click for move windows?
[23:22] <ikonia> diverdude: don't forget sudo
[23:23] <diverdude> ikonia, ahh nice
[23:23] <phunyguy_t430s> I usually do mkfs.ext4 /dev/device
[23:23] <diverdude> ....that can take a while :D writing inode table x/880½6 hehe
[23:23] <phunyguy_t430s> but either way works I am sure.
[23:23] <diverdude> 88016
[23:24] <joey8> i have to install a 32bit debian linux file and it the filename is aaa.pkg (note no "d"). Does anyone know how to install it please
[23:25] <jrib> joey8: what software?
[23:25] <pinkpelican> m
[23:25] <ikonia> doesn't look like a debian file
[23:25] <joey8> jtib pogoplugbackup
[23:25] <joey8> jrib: pogoplugbackup
[23:26] <iceroot> joey8: pkg is mac osx and not debian
[23:26] <phunyguy_t430s> +1 iceroot
[23:26] <max999> joey8, pkg is mac or solaris, there is a converter: sudo apt-get install alien
[23:26] <joey8> iceroot: really - ah haa that would explain my difficulty
[23:26] <iceroot> joey8: dont install software which is designed for mac osx
[23:26] <joey8> max999: thanx max i will give it a go
[23:26] <jrib> joey8: http://pogoplug.com/downloads you can find a linux version there...
[23:27] <joey8> jrib: wow thanx
[23:27] <iceroot> joey8: a debian/ubuntu files ends with *.deb
[23:27] <iceroot> joey8: and if you need a backup solution i would suggest deja-dup
[23:28] <fabricio_raszeja> Hello everyone
[23:28] <joey8> iceroot:  thanx but i want to backup to my own personal cloud disk (pogoplug)
[23:29] <iceroot> joey8: deja-dup can backup to ubuntu-one for example but ok if it is the solution you need
[23:29] <joey8> iceroot: thanx mate
[23:30] <joey8> jrib: thanx for the pointer - i have tried that tar gz file but it just unzips a wierd file with no suffix that does nothing. thanx for you help anyway
[23:30] <dr_willis> Hmm.. seems i got a bug back on the system that was happening during 12.10 beta.  after a long amount of uptime X starts sucking down a lot of CPU and lags the whole system.  If i restart the X server its back to being snappy. untill like a day later.. then X is back to using 30-99% cpu in htop again
[23:31] <jrib> joey8: you have to read documentation to see what exactly is in the tar.gz
[23:31] <joey8> jrib: thank you
[23:32] <iceroot> joey8: on linux the file-extension is not needed for the function of a program, its just for a better reading but it does not have any affect, GNU/Linux is working different here then windows
[23:32] <max999> dr_willis, i once had a strange memory leak problem on linux mint (ubuntu fork), filling my ram and cpu usage when i used firefox a while ..
[23:32] <cdavis> something got mucked up with my kernel image install this morning, how can I have apt-get do a full removal and reinstall of that version? (I have booted to the older image already)
[23:32] <max999> i changed to chromium and it was fine
[23:32] <joey8> iceroot: Oh really - now that is interesting - thank you for that.
[23:32] <dr_willis> max999:  I have free memory. i een added more swap. which is not even being used.
[23:33] <max999> dr_willis, thing was, it filled my xserver usage and not the firefox one ..
[23:33] <dr_willis> max999:  seems to be some quirk with the nvidia drivers/X  it even affects lubuntu/lxde
[23:33] <max999> dr_willis, i was on nvidia too :)
[23:33] <iceroot> joey8: you will see that there are other interesting (positiv) things on GNU/Linux
[23:34] <max999> dr_willis, i could doublecheck it by just browsing for very huge image files on google image search and seeing my xserver usage increase
[23:34] <joey8> iceroot:  Oh yes I agree - i have been on linux for a couple of years now and ditched windows then. I just havent done any special installing yet. I hold hands with software installer program and synaptic. Thanx
[23:35] <joey8> always learning though (thankfully)
[23:35] <dr_willis> max999:  this bug seems to kick in even if i just let the system sit at the lightdm login screen.
[23:35] <dr_willis> at leat it did during beta.
[23:35] <phunyguy_t430s> joey8, we are all students, no matter how experienced we are.
[23:35] <iceroot> joey8: using the software installers like synaptic, apt-get and so on is always the best way to go
[23:35] <joey8> phunyguy_t430s: true true
[23:36] <max999> dr_willis, maybe there are better drivers avaible for you. got to go sadly but i wish you good luck on solving :)
[23:36] <cdavis> apt is broken too. I get grep: /boot/config-2.5.0-19-generic: No such file or directory
[23:36] <iceroot> cdavis: what is the exact command you used and what is the exact error?
[23:36] <iceroot> !paste | cdavis
[23:37] <cdavis> iceroot: apt-get update
[23:37] <iceroot> cdavis: that command will never ever give that error-message
[23:37] <iceroot> cdavis: as i said the complete command and the complete error please
[23:38] <cdavis> iceroot: Sorry, I cannot because the laptop is hosed and at recover shell only.
[23:39] <cdavis> iceroot: and I meant upgrade not update. sorry
[23:39] <simplew>  ANyone around that can help with GRUB?
[23:39] <bobweaver> Does anyone know how to add a setting to dbus like if I want to add option for" com.canonical.Unity.Launcher" " color " thanks
[23:40] <iceroot> cdavis: you are using ubuntu?
[23:40] <cdavis> iceroot: yes
[23:41] <dr_willis> Ok. getting thousands of these messages in dmesg output.. cant seem to tell whats causing it...
[23:41] <dr_willis> [96219.543909] audit_printk_skb: 108 callbacks suppressed
[23:41] <dr_willis> [96219.543912] type=1701 audit(1355354588.589:269): auid=4294967295 uid=1000 gid=1000 ses=4294967295 pid=25553 comm="chrome" reason="seccomp" sig=0 syscall=2 compat=0 ip=0x7fc0ef23f6b0 code=0x50000
[23:41] <iceroot> cdavis: and what is the initial error you are facing?
[23:41] <phunyguy_t430s> dr_willis, looks like Chrome
[23:41] <dr_willis> phunyguy_t430s:  ps is not showing any chrome running.
[23:41] <phunyguy_t430s> can check what pid 25553 is
[23:43] <dr_willis> phunyguy_t430s:  the pid keeps changeing about every time i run dmesg.
[23:43] <trism> bobweaver: add it to the schema
[23:44] <dr_willis> in groups of about 8  same pid 8 times then it changes.
[23:44] <cdavis> iceroot: I think: I did an update this morning which updated the kernel. I did not reboot. Later in the day I tried to install bumblebee and then rebooted. The system now will not boot except in recovery mode. I am trying to purge bumblebee and get errors but I think it did remove. Now an apt-get update says dpkg was interrupted. you must manually run dpkg --configure -a
[23:44] <phunyguy_t430s> dr_willis, awesome.  must be keeling over and restarting
[23:44] <dr_willis> Yep.
[23:44] <cdavis> When I run that it stalls at grep: /boot/config-2.5.0-19-generic: No such file or directory
[23:44] <dr_willis> but ps ax | grep chrome shows nothing
[23:44] <cdavis> 3.5 not 2.5
[23:44] <bobweaver> trisim that is /usr/share/dbus-1/services file that is it ?
[23:45] <iceroot> cdavis: ls /boot/config*
[23:45] <iceroot> cdavis: what is listed there
[23:45] <dr_willis> phunyguy_t430s:  aha. killall chromium-browser might have done it.. siolly thing keeps adding itself to my .config/autorun
[23:46] <phunyguy_t430s> dr_willis: ttps://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/chromium-bugs/qC4R-Gm6x94
[23:46] <phunyguy_t430s> err
[23:46] <cdavis> Cannot access /boot/config*: NO such file or directory. I am in recovery mode at the root prompt and I did a mount -o remount,rw /
[23:46] <phunyguy_t430s> dr_willis: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/chromium-bugs/qC4R-Gm6x94
[23:46] <dr_willis> now i got about 3 dozen popups about plugins crashing ;)
[23:46] <iceroot> cdavis: why you did that remount?
[23:46] <phunyguy_t430s> seems related
[23:47] <cdavis> iceroot:  wanted to apt-get remove the bumblebee software that I had installed
[23:47] <dr_willis> phunyguy_t430s:  yep.. system is now speedy.... ;)
[23:47] <bobweaver> trism, oh I see /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/
[23:47] <iceroot> cdavis: that doesnt explain the remount
[23:47] <phunyguy_t430s> cool.
[23:47] <dr_willis> weird htop was not showing chromium-browser at all
[23:47] <cdavis> the recovery shell had mounted / ro
[23:47] <phunyguy_t430s> probably why it was all confused!  :)
[23:47] <phunyguy_t430s> flash probablypuked.
[23:47] <iceroot> dr_willis: htop is not showing zombies for example as default
[23:47] <phunyguy_t430s> flash probably puked.
[23:48] <dr_willis> i dont even know why chromium-browser keeps wanting to additself to my autorun stuff either..
[23:48] <phunyguy_t430s> dr_willis, regular ubuntu or xubuntu?
[23:49] <dr_willis> i definatly rememebr removeing chrompum-browser from ~/.config/autostart/ but it was back in again
[23:49] <dr_willis> normal ubuntu here.
[23:49] <phunyguy_t430s> k.
[23:50] <dr_willis> looks likeim settimng firefox as my default browser. ;)
[23:51] <phunyguy_t430s> dr_willis, I stopped fighting that battle long ago  ;)
[23:51] <dr_willis> even if i just run chromium then stop it.. it still seems toleave some task running..
[23:52] <phunyguy_t430s> I seem to have lost xfce4-power-manager again  ><
[23:53] <scarrs> I need some help with quake 3 please... ihave installed quake3 properly and copied the pak files to the proper location (I think) but the program is saying I don't have the files or something.... help pls I dunno what to do...
[23:54] <ikonia> you need to be more specific with the problem scarrs
[23:55] <scarrs> I'll try to be
[23:58] <phunyguy_t430s> just need clarification, to "rename" a PC, you just change /etc/hostname, and /etc/hosts, right? or am I missing osmething else that will bite me later?
[23:58] <scarrs> ikonia: when I run quake 3 the program comes back saying that I don't have the pak files but I do.... they may be in the wrong location but I have tried /usr/share/games/baseq3 and /usr/lib/ioquake3/baseq3