[07:22] <jussi> morning all
[07:23] <soee> good morning
[12:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: we don't have a beta backport for quantal yet, do we?
[12:40] <shadeslayer> we do
[12:40] <yofel> apachelogger: we do, just without announcement as nobody got to it
[12:41] <shadeslayer> clearly we suck at PR
[12:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you should fix that
[12:41] <apachelogger> yofel: where be they?
[12:42] <yofel> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta - where they should be
[12:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I'm fixing the seeds
[12:42] <shadeslayer> you fix the PR
[12:42] <apachelogger> I am fixing multimedia, bugs, plasma, stable releases
[12:42] <apachelogger> think I win in the shittodo department :S
[12:42] <apachelogger> yofel: cheers
[12:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: if you're running quantal shame on you
[12:43] <shadeslayer> you're a dev and should be running raring
[12:43] <shadeslayer> and fixing shit
[12:43] <shadeslayer> did I mention karbon is broken?
[12:43] <yofel> you did
[12:43] <apachelogger> jussi: this bug is actually quite shitty
[12:43] <shadeslayer> good
[12:44] <shadeslayer> who's fixing it? :P
[12:44] <jussi> ubuntu bug 1088772
[12:44] <yofel> shadeslayer: but which version on which release?
[12:44] <shadeslayer> yofel: raring ofcourse, and 1:2.5.92-0ubuntu1
[12:44] <apachelogger> jussi: if I were a dick I'd tell the quality team to beat them with a stick ... they regressed shit by not implementing half the specification -.-
[12:44] <yofel> karbon opens here at least, or was it a more specific thing?
[12:44] <shadeslayer> karbon(21667)/koffice (lib komain): "karbon" part.desktop not found. 
[12:45] <yofel> you did try to run kbuildsycoca4?
[12:45] <shadeslayer> no, and voila works
[12:45] <yofel> meh -.-
[12:45] <apachelogger> #fail
[12:45] <yofel> so much for kde figuring out when to run that itself
[12:46] <shadeslayer> isn't that supposed to be handled by a kded module?
[12:46] <yofel> same for installing new applications and them not showing up in kickoff
[12:46] <apachelogger> well, there is a delay if you are not using teh software center
[12:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how much? I installed karbon last night
[12:46] <apachelogger> (also IIRC that largely depends on inotify to work properly)
[12:46] <shadeslayer> at around 2-3 AM I think
[12:46] <yofel> so muon runs kbuildsycoca4 after every install?
[12:47] <apachelogger> yofel: the software center does IIRC
[12:47] <yofel> fun
[12:47] <shadeslayer> ^
[12:47] <apachelogger> to avoid that delay
[12:47] <apachelogger> plus it offers to open the app
[12:47] <apachelogger> so you could do that like one second after install finishes at which point the cache would certainly not be rebuilt
[12:53] <yofel> can't we like... have pkg-kde-tools generate a dpkg trigger for regenerating the cache? Or is it impossible to get to the user session from dpkg?
[12:56] <tsimpson> I guess if we can popup a "you must restart" message, we should be able to watch for a "you need to regenerate your cache" trigger
[12:56] <yofel> good point
[12:57] <Quintasan> \o
[12:58] <apachelogger> yofel: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-l10n-de_4%3a4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack):
[12:58] <apachelogger>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/plasma_applet_printmanager.mo', which is also in package print-manager 0.2.0-0ubuntu3
[12:58] <apachelogger> yofel, tsimpson: what if multiple sessions are running?
[12:59] <apachelogger> also "you need to regenerate cache" is EFU
[12:59] <tsimpson> apachelogger: then each session would need to regenerate the cache, right?
[12:59] <yofel> well, what does kubuntu-notification-helper do in that case?
[12:59] <tsimpson> you just see if the cache is older than the trigger
[12:59] <yofel> and you could just make that a silent auto-action instead of a popup
[12:59] <apachelogger> if the cahce is not updated at all
[12:59] <apachelogger> I'd g find out why
[12:59] <apachelogger> *go
[13:00] <apachelogger> if it is just a couple of seconds delay it is a non-issue because the people who'd be really irritated are expected to use MSC anyway
[13:03] <apachelogger> yofel: silent auto action is what inotify+kded are supposed to do
[13:04] <yofel> any idea where that code's supposed to be? kdelibsß
[13:04] <yofel> ?
[13:07] <apachelogger> yofel: kdelibs/kded I think
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:11] <shadeslayer> hmph
[13:11] <shadeslayer> KeyError: 'kubuntu.raring/desktop-common'
[13:11] <apachelogger> huh
[13:11] <apachelogger> yofel: what happened to plasmaengineexplorer in workspace-bin?
[13:12] <yofel> I don't know
[13:13] <shadeslayer> hmph
[13:13] <shadeslayer> no plasmaengineexplorer in raring as well
[13:18] <yofel> Interesting, the plasma tools are only built if(${KDE_PLATFORM_PROFILE} STREQUAL "Desktop")
[13:20] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[13:20] <yofel> and quite some other things too, so if that's not built... NOT good
[13:22] <yofel> we have set(KDE_PLATFORM_PROFILE "Desktop")
[13:22] <yofel> this doesn't make sense
[13:23]  * yofel goes building kde-workspace for the fun of it
[13:28] <shadeslayer> can someone review lp:~rohangarg/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.raring
[13:29] <shadeslayer> oh ... it's still pushing
[13:29] <shadeslayer> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.raring/revision/1194 < needs reviewing
[13:36] <Riddell> afiestas: to stable release update this qjson patch I'd need a bug that it fixes, do you have one?
[13:37] <yofel> shadeslayer: about KDE_PLATFORM_PROFILE: please read kdelibs/CreateKDEPlatformProfile.cmake and tell me if you're worried about active as much as I am
[13:38] <yofel> then again, I have no idea what KDE_PLATFORM_FEATURE_BINARY_COMPATIBLE_FEATURE_REDUCTION even does
[13:39] <shadeslayer> errrr
[13:39] <shadeslayer> okaayyyyyy
[13:40] <shadeslayer> yofel: I'm very worried now
[13:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what about?
[13:42] <yofel> hm, seems to disable kded-kcrash, kdeui-attica, and some plasma stuff
[13:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: apparently kdelibs has 3 build modes for 3 different targets
[13:43] <yofel> shadeslayer: well, it seems to only *disable* stuff, so maybe it's not an issue
[13:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: the 3rd bit is concerning
[13:43] <Riddell> mm
[13:43] <shadeslayer> ABI incompatibility
[13:43] <yofel> well, we don't use mobile, do we?
[13:44] <yofel> if anything I'm worried about the tablet stuff
[13:44] <shadeslayer> didn't you say tablet stuff was fine since it only seems to disable stuff
[13:45] <yofel> yeah, probably. But that's what I was worried about initially. But then again I have no idea what target is supposed to be used in which situation
[13:45] <shadeslayer> likewise
[14:16] <yofel> oh fun
[14:16] <shadeslayer> ?
[14:16] <yofel> KDE_PLATFORM_PROFILE is not set in kde-workspace because it doesn't use FindKDE4Internal
[14:17] <shadeslayer> fwiw I'm rebuilding kdelibs with hupnp
[14:17]  * yofel goes filing bug
[14:17] <shadeslayer> yofel: hah
[14:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.raring/+merge/139711
[14:26] <yofel> kde's internal build system workings are weird....
[14:32]  * ScottK seriously needs to make an alias for dpkg-buildpakcage -> dpkg-buildpackage.
[14:33] <Riddell> shadeslayer: isn't that called "debuild"?
[14:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: rationale?
[14:34] <shadeslayer> er?
[14:34] <Riddell> ScottK: isn't that called "debuild"?
[14:34] <Riddell> tab fail
[14:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: rationale is that why do we need separate seeds for active?
[14:34] <ScottK> Not when you're inside a minimal chroot you're trying to contaminate.
[14:34] <shadeslayer> and because apachelogger said so
[14:34] <Riddell> oh well if apachelogger says so :)
[14:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: do you know if any other bits will have to be changed as part of this?
[14:35] <Riddell> e.g. whatever makes the tasks
[14:36]  * apachelogger never uses debuild :O
[14:36] <apachelogger> ah, you are talking about something else ^^
[14:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did I really say so?
[14:37] <apachelogger> I mean, it makes sense, I just don't recall saying that ^^
[14:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: from what I understand soyuz uses Task-Name: no?
[14:37] <shadeslayer> "<apachelogger> shadeslayer: please be merging active with kubuntu-active"
[14:37] <shadeslayer> I assumed you made a typo there and meant merge active with kubuntu-meta
[14:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: everything is in universe so the more stuff we merge the better for maintainability
[14:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: nah I meant you should merge the runner active with kubuntu's so that they look the same structure wise
[14:39] <shadeslayer> I see
[14:39] <apachelogger> but what you did is somethign I also thought
[14:39] <shadeslayer> but imo this makes more sense
[14:39] <apachelogger> just did not express it ^^
[14:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: clearly I understand you much better
[14:39] <apachelogger> yeah :P
[14:39] <apachelogger> so merge in kubuntu then re-derive for runner so the structure is the same
[14:40] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:40] <jussi> http://vizzzion.org/blog/2012/12/an-owncloud-client-for-kde-plasma/
[14:40] <jussi> anyone packaging it yet?
[14:40] <yofel> nvm my comment on workspace, this is more complicated
[14:41] <shadeslayer> yofel: I guess we should start a thread off on plasma-active
[14:41] <shadeslayer> erm
[14:41] <shadeslayer> plasma-devel
[14:41] <shadeslayer> or whatever active uses as their ML
[14:42] <Riddell> jussi: you know you want to
[14:42] <shadeslayer> ^
[14:43] <shadeslayer> oh look cjwatson commented
[14:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I know
[14:44] <jussi> Riddell: no.
[14:45] <Riddell> yofel: 4.9.90 in quantal working well, thanks for shepherding that through, I'll put an announcement on kubuntu.org
[14:45] <apachelogger> notification sizing is broken
[14:45] <jussi> not today, not this week, not this year or next year.
[14:45] <apachelogger> hooray
[14:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah, I noticed that today as well
[14:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: good old cjwatson commented so I guess it's safe to do with has changes 
[14:49] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:49] <shadeslayer> I'll fix it up in a bit, doing some other stuff
[14:50] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1088772] Broken icons in plasma tray @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1088772 (by xapienz)
[14:56] <Riddell> kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.90
[14:57] <shadeslayer> can I go ahead and upload kde4libs with upnp functionality?
[14:57] <yofel> I thought hupnp was in universe?
[14:58] <yofel> it is, so you first need a MIR
[14:58]  * shadeslayer looks
[14:58] <shadeslayer> I see
[14:59] <shadeslayer> why can't we move kde4libs to universe ?
[14:59] <yofel> iirc it has several rdepends in main still
[14:59] <shadeslayer> MIR is bound to be rejected, no hupnp in debian :(
[14:59] <shadeslayer> yofel: but universe packages can build against main components no?
[15:00] <yofel> uhm, for kdelibs the situation is the other way around
[15:00] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[15:00] <yofel> if you have 1 thing in main that needs kdelibs you can't demote it
[15:00] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:00] <shadeslayer> so basically needs pretty much all of KDE SC demoted to universe
[15:01] <yofel> yeah, ScottK probably knows why we keep it in main
[15:02] <shadeslayer> hmm ..
[15:02] <Riddell> kdelibs needed for pykde needed by ubiquity
[15:02] <Riddell> would be one reason
[15:02] <yofel> well, that's enough already ^^
[15:02] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:02] <ScottK> Riddell: Ubiquity isn't using pykde
[15:02] <Riddell> hmm good pointed, I ported it to pyqt
[15:06] <apachelogger> (not a build time dep anyway)
[15:06] <apachelogger> so the kde frontend binary could be demoted to universe
[15:07] <ScottK> apachelogger: Would you please look at Bug 847484 - I don't have this problem, so I'm not sure what's up.
[15:07] <apachelogger> once I am done with plasma
[15:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so never?
[15:09] <shadeslayer> from some quick hacking, there are things like libproxy that dep on kdelibs5-dev
[15:09] <shadeslayer> and libreoffice 0.o
[15:09] <apachelogger> well latter makes sense
[15:09] <shadeslayer> and subversion ? lolwat
[15:09] <apachelogger> kwallet
[15:09] <apachelogger> also don't make jokes about plasma
[15:11] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:11] <apachelogger> ScottK: the backtrace totally does not match with the description
[15:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what about gst?
[15:11] <apachelogger> unless quassel reinitializes itself when going to fullscreen
[15:11] <apachelogger> which woudl be fun
[15:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: neither
[15:11] <shadeslayer> drat
[15:12] <apachelogger> it's no fun anymore really
[15:12] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/624836/
[15:12] <ScottK> apachelogger: Please triage the heck out of the bug then.
[15:13] <apachelogger> oh, nvm now I see it
[15:13] <apachelogger> weird call chain
[15:14] <shadeslayer> can't reproduce
[15:15] <xnox> Riddell: /me thought ubiquity no longer depends on pykde.
[15:15] <shadeslayer> xnox: it doesn't :)
[15:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what is not reproduced?
[15:15] <shadeslayer> though other packages do ( see laste link )
[15:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: bug 847484
[15:16] <shadeslayer> who want's to do MIR's?
[15:16] <yofel> you
[15:16] <shadeslayer> no
[15:16] <shadeslayer> why would you say that
[15:16]  * shadeslayer runs away
[15:16] <yofel> yes you do, even if you don't realize it yourself jet
[15:17] <shadeslayer> no, I've done far too many MIR's 
[15:17] <shadeslayer> ETOOMUCHPAPERWORK
[15:17] <apachelogger> lol?
[15:17]  * yofel is still debugging workspace
[15:17] <apachelogger> you clearly have not seen the days when it was three times as much work
[15:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I think I did :P
[15:18] <shadeslayer> My first MIR falled during the end of that era
[15:19] <ScottK> Having done the needed MIRs to get Spamassassin in Main back not only during that era, but when every stinking trivial Perl module needed a full MIR, I have limited sympathy.
[15:19] <ScottK> Just get it done.
[15:19] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:20] <apachelogger> plasma broken again
[15:20] <apachelogger> fukitol100
[15:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: who said it was ever fixed
[15:20] <shadeslayer> plasma at times seems like a bunch of code glued together to me :p
[15:20] <shadeslayer> I have yet to fix that folderview bug
[15:20] <apachelogger> seems?
[15:21] <apachelogger> lol?
[15:21] <apachelogger> KSNI
[15:21] <shadeslayer> just because the code is fugly and I don't want to touch it
[15:21] <apachelogger> api: kdelibs, dataengine: workspace, UI: workspace & runtime
[15:21] <apachelogger> plasmaengineexplorere is now in: plasmate
[15:21] <yofel> uhm... qobject::connect() doing runtime introspection like things to connect signals and slots is already something I consider glued together
[15:22] <shadeslayer> xD
[15:22] <apachelogger> it's the QML way
[15:22] <shadeslayer> ^
[15:22] <apachelogger> ScottK: dunno how to triage that
[15:22] <apachelogger> makes no sense from any POV
[15:22] <hrw> hi guys
[15:22] <ScottK> Find Sput and make him do it.
[15:22] <apachelogger> Sput: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel/+bug/847484
[15:23] <shadeslayer> hiya hrw
[15:23] <apachelogger> actually
[15:23] <apachelogger>  Stack memory exhausted (SP below stack segment)
[15:23] <hrw> which srcpkg I should report bug against if I want to report bug in screen lock?
[15:23] <apachelogger> lolwut
[15:23] <yofel> IIRC the screenlocker is part of kscreensaver
[15:23] <apachelogger> how the flip can you exhaust the stack with 29 frames
[15:24] <apachelogger> Oo
[15:24] <yofel> what's the bug though, I doubt it's our fault
[15:24] <apachelogger> hrw: bugs.kde.org :P
[15:24] <hrw> apachelogger: haha ;)
[15:24] <apachelogger> I am serious
[15:24] <apachelogger> ScottK: "the X server becomes completely crazzy ."
[15:24] <apachelogger> rather helpful
[15:24] <hrw> yofel: I have to enter password twice when screen is locked
[15:25] <yofel> that one's new...
[15:26] <shadeslayer> hrw: would have to be reported on bugs.kde.org
[15:26] <shadeslayer> no idea which product though
[15:26] <hrw> ok
[15:26] <yofel> locker is part of kscreensaver on bugs.kde.org
[15:26] <yofel> had to look it up myself a few days ago
[15:26] <shadeslayer> ah cool
[15:26] <shadeslayer> ^
[15:26] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=335357&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=locker&product=kscreensaver
[15:27] <shadeslayer> gtg dinner
[15:27]  * yofel watches workspace build... again...
[15:32] <apachelogger> oh
[15:32] <apachelogger> dinner
[15:32]  * apachelogger wanted to have lunch some 4 hours ago
[15:42] <ScottK> apachelogger: Thanks.
[15:56] <hrw> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311638
[15:58] <shadeslayer> hrw: can you check with 4.9.90?
[15:58] <shadeslayer> oh
[15:58] <shadeslayer> "KDE beta (4.9.90) installed."
[15:58] <shadeslayer> hrw: you want to change the version in the bug report
[15:58] <shadeslayer> ugh
[15:58] <shadeslayer> they don't have a 4.9.90 target?
[15:58] <hrw> done
[15:58] <shadeslayer> cool
[16:06] <Sput> apachelogger: I've seen that one a few times with Ubuntu/kubuntu users (exclusively) - usually fixed itself after a while
[16:06] <Sput> no idea what it is, we don't do anything fancy, just setting the appropriate Qt flag
[16:32] <apachelogger> ScottK: what qt flag?
[16:32] <apachelogger> eh Sput
[16:35] <Sput> apachelogger: actually, all we do is calling QWidget::showFullScreen() for the main window
[16:36] <Sput> which has broken documentation, it seems, as it says "Calling this function only affects windows." before talking about all the stuff that can go wrong in X11
[17:06] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/13/UDS-Badge-Kubuntu_shadeslayer.png
[17:06] <shadeslayer> my submission derived from the Kubuntu badges on G+
[17:07] <shadeslayer> contact info could probably do with some sort of indentation
[18:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw how do I add active-ship to supported?
[18:53] <shadeslayer> just add : * active-ship : in supported?
[19:01] <soee> hiho
[19:02] <shadeslayer> hi soee
[19:51] <soee> looks nice http://vizzzion.org/blog/2012/12/an-owncloud-client-for-kde-plasma/
[20:13] <Quintasan> Riddell: pung
[20:13] <Quintasan> more like ping but whatever
[20:49] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: see kards
[20:50] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/cards/
[21:07] <yofel> shadeslayer: pretty nice :)
[21:07] <Riddell> Quintasan: pong?
[21:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: needs some artistic love on the back though :P
[21:09] <yofel> yeah, and I'm not convinced that the background should be blue, but that's just personal preference
[21:09] <shadeslayer> yeah, like I said, needs some work
[21:17] <Quintasan> Riddell: urgh, mind if I query?
[21:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/cards/UDS-Badge-Kubuntu_shadeslayer_back_white.svg
[21:18] <yofel> needs some love, but yeah, something like that
[21:19] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I will take a look tomorrow since I am not in the right state of mind right now
[21:19] <shadeslayer> okay
[21:22] <Riddell> Quintasan: go ahead
[21:23] <Riddell> does anyone use those qr codes?
[21:23] <Quintasan> Riddell: lemme get home first
[21:27] <shadeslayer> idk
[21:27] <shadeslayer> tbh it looks weird :P
[21:41] <yofel> well, I haven't seen a qr code like that, but here I know people that like them. And they are better than having to type everythign into your phone if one wants the data in there
[21:43] <shadeslayer> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/13/UDS-Badge-Kubuntu_shadeslayer_back.png
[21:56] <jussi> Riddell: qr codes are nice when its a really long url you dont want to type...
[22:01] <shadeslayer> jussi: but ... there is no URL to be typed
[22:03] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: the ones at http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/cards/ are not bad but they have no information about you
[22:03] <Quintasan> save for QR code
[22:03] <shadeslayer> huh?
[22:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: open in inkscape
[22:04] <shadeslayer> or karbon
[22:04] <Quintasan> mmkay
[22:04] <shadeslayer> stupid browser
[22:05] <Quintasan> oooooh
[22:05] <Quintasan> that looks nice
[22:06] <Quintasan> hmmm
[22:06] <Quintasan> UDS-Badge-Kubuntu_shadeslayer.svg
[22:06] <shadeslayer> ?
[22:06] <Quintasan> that looks nice
[22:07] <Quintasan> allow me to nitpick some details
[22:07] <shadeslayer> sure
[22:07] <Quintasan> E should me Email
[22:07] <Quintasan> should be*
[22:07] <shadeslayer> intentional ... 
[22:07] <shadeslayer> isnt it obvious enough? :P
[22:07] <Quintasan> not for everyone
[22:07] <shadeslayer> heh ok
[22:08] <Quintasan> what makes you inclined to make email even shorter than it is now?
[22:08] <shadeslayer> *shrug*
[22:09] <Quintasan> other than this I have no problem with that one
[22:09] <Quintasan> it's simple and contains all the information needed to contact you
[22:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: what about the back :P
[22:14] <Quintasan> uhh
[22:14] <Quintasan> what do you want me to say about QR code? :D
[22:14] <shadeslayer> idk, it doesn't look right, so fix it?
[22:59] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/13/UDS-Badge-Kubuntu_shadeslayer_back_1.png
[22:59] <shadeslayer> bettery?
[22:59] <shadeslayer> erm
[22:59] <shadeslayer> better
[22:59] <shadeslayer> yes, this will actually be vertical :P
[23:04] <yofel> shadeslayer: yep
[23:05] <shadeslayer> we could stick it in one corner of the card
[23:05] <shadeslayer> but my phone doesn't properly read it then
[23:13] <shadeslayer> yofel: can you find a *white* QR code generator? :P
[23:13] <shadeslayer> would go with the font color on the back
[23:14] <yofel> is that still readable then?
[23:14] <shadeslayer> the one from inkscape doesn't get detected
[23:14] <shadeslayer> I think it should be
[23:14] <shadeslayer> but can't say till we try
[23:14]  * yofel first wonders where to find q qrcode generator that outputs svg
[23:15] <yofel> ah, qrencode did that
[23:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: and it supports setting for-/background color
[23:16] <shadeslayer> ?
[23:16] <yofel> well, you wanted a non-black/white qr-code, right?
[23:16] <shadeslayer> oh
[23:16] <shadeslayer> okay, I thought it was a site :P
[23:17] <yofel> nah
[23:17] <yofel> !info qrencode
[23:17] <shadeslayer> right
[23:18] <yofel> shadeslayer: it sure gained fun output formats since I last used it :D http://paste.kde.org/625022/
[23:22] <shadeslayer> :)
[23:22] <shadeslayer> yeah for some reason this is not working
[23:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: try with : qrencode --foreground=eeeeecff --background=0079c1ff -o /tmp/qrcode.svg -t SVG 
[23:22] <shadeslayer> and enter some data
[23:27] <yofel> neither barcode scanner nor mbarcode decoded that. Switch the colors and it's fine
[23:28] <shadeslayer> yeah :*
[23:28] <shadeslayer> :(
[23:28] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/14/rect3810.png
[23:28] <shadeslayer> would have been perfect
[23:33] <yofel> hm, undo button doesn't work in karbon
[23:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: this works : http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/14/UDS-Badge-Kubuntu_shadeslayer_back.png
[23:34] <shadeslayer> good enough for me :P
[23:35] <yofel> yeah, I wanted to try it with a smaller border, but now karbon crashed -.-
[23:36] <yofel> well, beta
[23:37] <yofel> the layer visibility calculation is broken too
[23:38] <shadeslayer> inkscape ftw
[23:42] <yofel> geh
[23:42] <yofel> qrencode -m 1 does what I want
[23:43] <yofel> the 4 px border looks out of place on the card, 1 px is ok
[23:51] <shadeslayer> awesome
[23:52] <shadeslayer> should we finalize this?
[23:52] <shadeslayer> just needs some finishing touches wrt to the placement