[01:33] <rick_h_> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/853/
[01:34] <rick_h_> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/853/
[02:15] <snap-l> http://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/pghyp/homework_replace_a_word_in_a_line_of_text/c3p6jg5
[02:28] <rick_h_> http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/04/10/maasing-and-jujuing-with-hp-proliant-micro-servers/
[02:36] <widox> MPiccinato: yo
[02:38] <snap-l> howdy
[02:39] <oktrev> hey hey
[02:40] <MPiccinato> hi
[03:47] <rick_h_> greg-g: https://plus.google.com/u/0/116120911388966791792/posts/BbdQiy93SCG :)
[12:58] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:01] <rick_h_> morning
[13:04] <brousch> morn
[13:44] <rick_h_> http://www.audiogalaxy.com/blog/2012/12/hello-dropbox/ hello new dropbox features
[13:48] <brousch> rick_h_: Do you use that app?
[13:49] <rick_h_> brousch: no, just noting that it's interesting Dropbox is acquiring and that it's a music sharing service
[13:49] <brousch> It sounds to me like they are buying the team more than the service
[13:50] <rick_h_> still, buying a team with experience doing shared music seems interesting to a shared file service.
[13:50] <brousch> perhaps
[13:50] <brousch> Move your music to dropbox and stream from there?
[13:51] <rick_h_> right
[13:51] <rick_h_> gengerate playlists...what if they could sync across devices?
[13:51] <brousch> like google music?
[13:51] <rick_h_> provide apps for devices dropbox app currently works ok
[13:52] <rick_h_> yep, but with files you're already sticking in dropbox
[13:53] <brousch> It's a wash for me, so my usage of it would depend on whether the clients are better
[13:53] <rick_h_> right, just interesting. We'll see what comes out of it
[13:53] <rick_h_> my first reaction was surprise at dropbox acquiring anything
[13:53] <rick_h_> they've seem pretty small/lightweight to me
[13:55] <brousch> Haven't really branched out from their original purpose
[13:56] <rick_h_> well, there are photo albums
[13:56] <rick_h_> but yea
[13:57] <brousch> Tere are?
[13:58] <widox> MPiccinato: yo
[13:58] <widox> heh
[13:58] <MPiccinato> Morning
[13:59] <widox> audiogalaxy, name sounds familiar. didn't that used to be a windows music player app?
[14:00] <rick_h_> brousch: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zqoihil451vqcl7/7Tv_wrjzO9
[14:05] <brousch> Pretty bare-bones
[14:05] <brousch> No title, no comments, no theme?
[14:12] <brousch> I have had very little luck with my last 2 questions on StackOverflow. Am I doing it wrong?
[14:12] <brousch> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13851065/google-tv-emulator-hangs-at-google-tv-logo
[14:13] <rick_h_> heh, just doing crazy stuff no one else knows about :P
[14:13] <rick_h_> jcastro_: is the SO question expert. Looks ok here
[14:13] <brousch> Google TV emulator install is not supposed to be crazy
[14:15] <jcastro_> yo
[14:15] <jcastro_> that looks like a bug report. :)
[14:16] <brousch> Maybe, but all GoogleTV dev questions are supposed to go on SO
[14:16] <brousch> They closed the google forum
[14:22] <brousch> How do iI unload a kernel module that says it's in use? `sudo modprobe -r vboxdrv`
[14:22] <jcastro_> ah
[14:22] <jcastro_> the old dump and run
[14:24] <brousch> I found a hint that says I need to unload the virtualbox driver before running the GoogleTV emulator (which uses KVM)
[14:25] <rick_h_> modprobe -r?
[14:25] <rick_h_> oh you already did that
[14:26] <brousch> That says it's in use, but I am not using it right now. No vbox open at all
[14:27] <rick_h_> was it open previously? I'd try to reboot and -r it after a clean boot
[14:28] <rick_h_> anything else I say is pure speculation and could cause things to go boom so I'll leave you to it
[14:31] <brousch> Rebooting feels like giving up
[14:31] <rick_h_> working > *
[14:31] <rick_h_> doh he rebooted
[14:34] <brousch> Darn, still in use. Oh well
[14:38] <snap-l> Anyone need a bike rack? https://www.dropbox.com/s/sq654ohwwuphktd/2012-12-08%2016.30.27.jpg
[14:38] <snap-l> I've never installed it, as I've rethought how I want to get bikes from point A to point B.
[14:38] <snap-l> Fits a DOdge Caliber and probably other sorts of hatchbacky cars.
[14:39] <brousch> snap-l: That photo is hurting my mind. I can't orient myself
[14:40] <snap-l> brousch: Mission accompllished. ;)
[14:54] <brousch> How did you hang the box from the ceiling? And what is that crazy wallpaper?
[14:55] <snap-l> That's in our kitchen.
[14:55] <snap-l> I was using it to keep the cat off the counter.
[14:55] <rick_h_> lol
[14:56] <rick_h_> bike-rack-in-a-box == cat deterrant <3
[14:56] <snap-l> Yeah, it's enough pathetic in one sitting that I figured now was the time to get rid of it. ;)
[15:37] <brousch> wolfger? http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/12/attempted-citizens-arrest-of-cop-in.html
[15:39] <_stink_> haha
[15:57] <greg-g> Rowan had a fever of 103 last night :( :(
[15:58] <rick_h_> ouch, that's toasty
[16:02] <brousch> Oh man, that is rough
[16:02] <greg-g> yeah, he's down to 102 now (when I left home) and acting normally
[16:02] <brousch> I remember a couple of those. Just on the edge of calling the doctor in the middle of the night
[16:02] <greg-g> when it was at 103, though, he was acting strange, like, dazed and just staring off into the distance not at anything specific, which is something he never does
[16:03] <greg-g> I called the advice nurse
[16:03] <greg-g> that's 103 under his armpit, which is somewhat lower than in the mouth/butt
[16:04] <brousch> they always want a butt temp from us
[16:04] <brousch> Roll him over and "Sorry dude. I hope you don't remember this when you're a teenager"
[16:04] <greg-g> never done one
[16:05] <_stink_> neither have we
[16:06] <_stink_> greg-g: if he's acting normal at 102, then you've got yourself a tough kid
[16:06] <_stink_> ours would be refusing to budge from a lap
[16:07] <brousch> Yeah, 100F for us is constant snuggles
[16:07] <brousch> Limp noodle
[16:08] <rick_h_> yea, over 100 and our guy normally gets really cuddly and sleepyish
[16:15] <snap-l>  I think I'd invest in the ear thermometer or something that would prevent me from having to take a temp in the butt
[16:15] <rick_h_> yea, we went ear
[16:17] <brousch> Our doctors demand a butt temp
[16:18] <snap-l> perverts
[16:19] <greg-g> no kidding, and a bit old school/dogmatic
[16:19] <greg-g> I'd switch doctors, in all seriousness
[16:28] <brousch> It's really not that hard
[16:30] <brousch> Have you east siders heard of Andrew Cohee?
[16:31] <brousch> He just contacted me on linkedin about starting a metro detroit python dev group
[16:32] <snap-l> Name doesn't sound familiar.
[16:32] <snap-l> that said, I'm not great with names either.
[16:32] <rick_h_> oh hmm, when I got that I thuoght it was our CHC Drew
[16:33] <rick_h_> but don't recognize Andrew Cohee
[16:33] <brousch> benzinga.com?
[16:33] <rick_h_> yea, no idea there
[16:33] <brousch> rick_h_: You got a connection request too?
[16:33] <rick_h_> I got an invite to the py group
[16:34] <rick_h_> not linked in that I noticed
[16:34] <snap-l> The site looks like shit
[16:34] <snap-l> at least in w3m it does
[16:34] <brousch> Ah, he works with a very infrequent GRPUG guy in grand rapids
[16:35] <snap-l> Well apparently I listened to "Surfing with the alien" with my headphones on the desk
[16:35] <snap-l> put them on, and Yes was playing.
[16:36] <brousch> rick_h_: Do you want me to send him your email?
[16:36] <rick_h_> not really
[16:37] <brousch> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/854/
[16:37] <rick_h_> yea, not interested right now. I personally don't have time to do more. CHC, MUG, woodworking is full
[16:38] <brousch> Michigan Python Pinax Group?
[16:39] <brousch> Now I see your hesitation ;)
[16:41] <brousch> Drew verlee is a mamber of that group
[16:41] <rick_h_> yea, I know Drew Verlee
[16:41] <rick_h_> derekv:'s brother
[16:42] <brousch> OK, well I consider you all informed of its existence
[16:42] <rick_h_> thanks!
[16:46] <brousch> Hm, I think this cohee guy is starting a different group. Pinax group is in Southfield
[16:46] <snap-l> Has he contacted the MichiPug group in Ann Arbor?
[16:50] <brousch> It is a different group http://www.meetup.com/Michigan-Python-Development-Group/
[16:51] <snap-l> I know... Have they contacted the MichiPUG group?
[16:51] <brousch> I don't know. I'll suggest it
[16:55] <brousch> Hm, both groups are in Southfield
[17:23] <snap-l> https://twitter.com/kscottz/status/279266415654105089
[17:24] <rick_h_> yea
[17:24] <snap-l> I remember seeing that image a while back
[17:25] <rick_h_> yea, I looked it up on wikipedia. It's a very common image used for image process testing
[17:25] <rick_h_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna
[17:26] <snap-l> Just found it interesting that she picked up a copy of the magazine itself.
[17:26] <snap-l> but then again, it's an artifact.
[17:45] <snap-l> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dM53BYp9VCI/UMoLfnw135I/AAAAAAAAoHk/eWaPsU-rVS8/s460/gifaki-gifki-smeshnye-gifki-gifki-kote_6173163875.gif
[17:46] <rick_h_> you know what, I'm actually thinking apple won in this. Google Maps is now back but now with turn-by-turn and feature par with android
[17:46] <rick_h_> they got what they wanted, iphone to have same maps/driving features of android
[17:46] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah
[17:47] <greg-g> and no one is going to remember apple's crap map app in 1 month when they buy their new iphone
[17:47] <greg-g> heh "crap map app" is fun
[17:49] <snap-l> Yeah, frankly I think the whole thing was overdone
[17:49] <snap-l> It was more "OMG, APPLE MISSTEP, WWSJD?!?!?!?!!!1!!"
[17:49] <greg-g> yeppers
[17:50] <rick_h_> greg-g: exactly, they made waves, got feature parity to shut up, and carry on
[18:06] <rick_h_> http://voices.canonical.com/ubuntuone/2012/12/13/happier-holidays-with-the-ubuntu-one-photos-update/
[18:06] <rick_h_> speaking of photo galleries
[18:07] <rick_h_> http://ubuntuone.com/album/0K1i9ytqfPjTdmyYU98Elk for example
[18:08] <greg-g> neat
[18:09] <greg-g> que es? http://ubuntuone.com/gallery/0K1i9ytqfPjTdmyYU98Elk/IMG_20121207_161742.jpg
[18:10] <greg-g> circular saw blade(s)?
[18:10] <rick_h_> heh, selling the dado stack since I've sold the table saw
[18:10] <rick_h_> yea, they stack up to create dados of various widths (grooves) for putting together cabinets/etc
[18:10] <greg-g> ahhhhhhhh
[18:11] <rick_h_> say building a cabinet out of 1/2" plywood, create a 1/2 dado stack and then run grooves, glue in shelves, done
[18:11]  * greg-g nods
[18:11] <greg-g> neat, but BAN ELECTRICITY! ;)
[18:11] <rick_h_> heh, well going bandsaw which shold be here any minute
[18:12] <rick_h_> so keeping some electricity
[18:14] <brousch> rick_h_: Is it just me or is the ubuntuone photos significantly slower than Dropbox's?
[18:15] <snap-l> brousch: Not significantly.
[18:15] <snap-l> rick_h_: That's neat. What folder do you put those in for Ubuntu One?
[18:16] <rick_h_> snap-l: so it tried to detect a folder of images I think
[18:16] <rick_h_> brousch: not just you. The app is doing some round trip stuff between London DC and AWS US and causes it to take a while to generate thumbnails/etc
[18:16] <rick_h_> they're working on some fixes
[18:16] <rick_h_> but no in place yet which sucks for a release day bad impression
[18:16] <brousch> Ah, so it's going across the Atlantic. That would explain it
[18:18] <rick_h_> yea, going across it multiple times from what it seems
[18:18] <rick_h_> :/
[18:19] <snap-l> I want to believe.
[18:20] <brousch> Believe what?
[18:21] <rick_h_> believe it'll get better
[18:21] <rick_h_> but performance is a typica U1 complaint
[18:54] <snap-l> Trying the ubuntu one streaming [buffering] [buffering] [buffering] pla[buffering]yet.
[18:54] <snap-l> granted, I don't have the best wifi connection where I'm sitting, but damn.
[19:35] <rick_h_> gotta love those 6hr windows
[19:36] <rick_h_> "we'll be there between 10am and 4pm"
[19:50] <jrwren> ugh.
[19:50] <jrwren> just cancel that service.
[19:57] <jrwren> unless it is really faster internet :)
[19:59] <rick_h_> heh, it's UPS with my saw
[19:59] <rick_h_> has to come on a special lift gate scheduled delivery
[19:59] <rick_h_> down to the last hour of a 6hr window
[20:03] <brousch> Go sit in the driveway
[20:08] <rick_h_> hah
[20:08] <rick_h_> it's nice out today, good time to do it
[20:08] <snap-l> rick_h_: You win.
[20:57] <brousch> Have any of you use rpyc? One of the GRPUG guys suggested it and it's really frickin nice
[20:57] <brousch> remote python call
[21:06] <_stink_> wow, looks cools
[21:06] <_stink_> -s
[21:09] <snap-l> rick_h_: Um, now the hell are you going to get that in the garage? :)
[21:10] <greg-g> snap-l: obviously, build a bigger garage!
[21:10]  * greg-g wants a work shed someday
[21:14] <snap-l> http://gigaom.com/2012/12/13/guardian-kills-its-facebook-social-reader-regains-control-over-its-content/ <- It's stories like this that make me wonder where they get their numbers from
[21:14] <snap-l> six million monthly users (how do they come up with that number?)
[21:15] <snap-l> I always look at my Google Analytics numbers with skepticism, mostly because I know how many bots crawl my site.
[21:16] <snap-l> If they surface the actual user accounts, and those are unique accounts, then cool. No harm, no foul.
[22:17] <rick_h_> snap-l: so got it in the garage by walking it off the big skig, crushing my foot, and walking it barely with the hand truck
[22:17] <rick_h_> now...getting it off of the little skid/unpacking is going to take some neighbor assistance
[22:19] <greg-g> wow
[22:24] <snap-l> rick_h_: Ouch