[16:46] morning chris4585 [16:46] morning wrst [16:47] how are you doing chris4585? [16:47] I'm alright, a little tired after installing linux several times tonight [16:48] several? [16:49] I updated my bios and I think either manjaro doesn't have the proper way of installing grub with UEFI support or my bios is being more strict? regardless archbang installed just fine with syslinux [16:49] yes, annoying I couldn't get grub properly installed and I tried several different things, which required reinstalling [16:50] hmm i don't know in know on the arch wiki there are some uefi instructions but never paid much attention to it [16:51] yeah well it was rather ridiculous... so I said screw getting manjaro installed tonight and went for what I knew worked [16:51] and this is the first time I've really used syslinux for an actual install besides liveusb [16:52] also keeping /home is very lovely [16:52] lol [16:52] never used it how is it? [16:52] it works, and I'm pretty familiar with it, the configs are a little easier than grub [16:54] usually you see syslinux in a lot of livecds, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mGm-yWyTxPA/T7DdVuO0puI/AAAAAAAAANo/y5Pqpr7A-T4/s1600/syslinux_rm2012.png [17:56] i wonder how it hadles multiple operating systems chris4585? [18:42] wrst, it should be fine, but I've never had to set it to boot a partition, usually you just set the kernel and shiz in the config by the dir [18:43] hmm interesting [18:43] i might expirement sometime in a vm or something [18:51] let me know if you unlock some secrets [18:51] I still have to add winders to my config but I know it will be easy [18:51] I just have to uncomment some stuff lol [18:53] i must say grub is working just fine for me, i do need to get it to pick up my other hard drive now [18:53] i dread uefi [18:54] it isn't so bad, I really haven't had an issue since now and I think its a manjaro issue [18:57] as long as i can boot what i want i'm happy oh chris4585 ssd and systemd on arch boot is just about instant [18:58] wrst, lol I hear that and darn you, I really want one but I'll wait a while I think [18:59] the prices will no doubt get better and better [19:00] i may build another desktop sometime next year and if i do it will certainly be with one [19:01] I just want something that wont fail [19:03] that's the thing on the ssd i wonder about reliability [19:04] well as long as you use it for / and not /home, and leave out /tmp, and possibly /var, it should last way longer [19:05] because reading doesn't ware it down as much as writing [19:08] very true [19:10] I'm thinking about doing a flash drive setup somehow to hold over my desire for an SSD [19:11] i really do like it but enought about that, but arch on a spinning disk with systemd and kde works nicely also [19:13] systemd is kind of throwing me off [19:14] I'm not entirely used to how it works [19:14] i like it i converted two systems and i must say i like it [19:14] i do miss rc.conf [19:14] but pretty much systemctl start/restart/stop service [19:15] or sytemctl enable/disable service to stop/start on boot [19:15] yeah, but for gdm I've had to enable then start which threw me off [19:15] yes if you don't reboot [19:16] enable is like adding it to rc.conf [19:22] sorry about that, accidentally stopped slim without realizing I'd lose my xserver [19:22] lol [19:29] chris4585: actually using systemd reminds me of osx using launchctl load/unload etc [19:29] never used osx really [20:06] its not bad, i'm just not a fan of apple [20:07] same [23:31] * cyberanger is only a fan of Granny Smith Apples