[16:46] <wrst> morning chris4585
[16:46] <chris4585> morning wrst
[16:47] <wrst> how are you doing chris4585?
[16:47] <chris4585> I'm alright, a little tired after installing linux several times tonight
[16:48] <wrst> several?
[16:49] <chris4585> I updated my bios and I think either manjaro doesn't have the proper way of installing grub with UEFI support or my bios is being more strict? regardless archbang installed just fine with syslinux
[16:49] <chris4585> yes, annoying I couldn't get grub properly installed and I tried several different things, which required reinstalling
[16:50] <wrst> hmm i don't know in know on the arch wiki there are some uefi instructions but never paid much attention to it
[16:51] <chris4585> yeah well it was rather ridiculous... so I said screw getting manjaro installed tonight and went for what I knew worked
[16:51] <chris4585> and this is the first time I've really used syslinux for an actual install besides liveusb
[16:52] <chris4585> also keeping /home is very lovely
[16:52] <chris4585> lol
[16:52] <wrst> never used it how is it?
[16:52] <chris4585> it works, and I'm pretty familiar with it, the configs are a little easier than grub
[16:54] <chris4585> usually you see syslinux in a lot of livecds, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mGm-yWyTxPA/T7DdVuO0puI/AAAAAAAAANo/y5Pqpr7A-T4/s1600/syslinux_rm2012.png
[17:56] <wrst> i wonder how it hadles multiple operating systems chris4585?
[18:42] <chris4585> wrst, it should be fine, but I've never had to set it to boot a partition, usually you just set the kernel and shiz in the config by the dir
[18:43] <wrst> hmm interesting
[18:43] <wrst> i might expirement sometime in a vm or something
[18:51] <chris4585> let me know if you unlock some secrets
[18:51] <chris4585> I still have to add winders to my config but I know it will be easy
[18:51] <chris4585> I just have to uncomment some stuff lol
[18:53] <wrst> i must say grub is working just fine for me, i do need to get it to pick up my other hard drive now
[18:53] <wrst> i dread uefi
[18:54] <chris4585> it isn't so bad, I really haven't had an issue since now and I think its a manjaro issue
[18:57] <wrst> as long as i can boot what i want i'm happy oh chris4585 ssd and systemd on arch boot is just about instant
[18:58] <chris4585> wrst, lol I hear that and darn you, I really want one but I'll wait a while I think
[18:59] <wrst> the prices will no doubt get better and better
[19:00] <wrst> i may build another desktop sometime next year and if i do it will certainly be with one
[19:01] <chris4585> I just want something that wont fail
[19:03] <wrst> that's the thing on the ssd i wonder about reliability
[19:04] <chris4585> well as long as you use it for / and not /home, and leave out /tmp, and possibly /var, it should last way longer
[19:05] <chris4585> because reading doesn't ware it down as much as writing
[19:08] <wrst> very true
[19:10] <chris4585> I'm thinking about doing a flash drive setup somehow to hold over my desire for an SSD
[19:11] <wrst> i really do like it but enought about that, but arch on a spinning disk with systemd and kde works nicely also
[19:13] <chris4585> systemd is kind of throwing me off
[19:14] <chris4585> I'm not entirely used to how it works
[19:14] <wrst> i like it i converted two systems and i must say i like it
[19:14] <wrst> i do miss rc.conf
[19:14] <wrst> but pretty much systemctl start/restart/stop service
[19:15] <wrst> or sytemctl enable/disable service to stop/start on boot
[19:15] <chris4585> yeah, but for gdm I've had to enable then start which threw me off
[19:15] <wrst> yes if you don't reboot
[19:16] <wrst> enable is like adding it to rc.conf
[19:22] <chris4585> sorry about that, accidentally stopped slim without realizing I'd lose my xserver
[19:22] <chris4585> lol
[19:29] <wrst> chris4585: actually using systemd reminds me of osx using launchctl load/unload etc
[19:29] <chris4585> never used osx really
[20:06] <wrst> its not bad, i'm just not a fan of apple
[20:07] <chris4585> same
[23:31]  * cyberanger is only a fan of Granny Smith Apples