[02:14] <bryce> tjaalton, http://www.bryceharrington.org/Arsenal/ubuntu-x-swat/Reports/package-status.html
[02:43] <Sarvatt> and of course fglrx-installer-experimental-9 failed to build on amd64 for quantal and raring, something to fix up tomorrow in my favorite package ever
[02:47] <Sarvatt> at least fglrx-installer-experimental-9 isn't as retarded as nvidia-experimental-310 they already abandoned and moved on to nvidia-experimental-313. whoever thought versioned -experimental packages were ok was silly :)
[02:48]  * ScottK waves to Sarvatt.
[02:48] <Sarvatt> there are going to be at least 10 packages to maintain in every previous release by 14.04, tseliot doesn't scale that well :(
[02:50] <Sarvatt> maybe if we dont forward port anything but the newest one when the next dev release opens
[02:51] <Sarvatt> there is going to be bugs about experimental-310 not working with the X abi in 13.04, that will never be fixed because nvidia made 313 to work with that (hypothetical, 315 or whatever wil be the one supporting xserver 1.14)
[02:54] <ScottK> Sounds like "fun"
[02:57] <bjsnider> Sarvatt, are you complaining about amd and nvidia again?
[02:57] <bjsnider> they make good stuff
[02:57] <bjsnider> really good stuff
[02:58] <Sarvatt> nah amd is fine, fglrx-installer-backports-9 will cover an entire years worth of updates
[02:58] <Sarvatt> its just nvidia already gave up on 310 and there wont be more, its 313 now, probably something else valve needs next :)
[02:59] <Sarvatt> fglrx-installer-backports-9 means everything from 2012, nvidia revs the version every other month but the old ones need to work but dont get updated :)
[03:00] <bjsnider> keeping up with the updates would be a full-time job
[03:00] <bjsnider> do they still have the long-lived release too?
[03:00] <Sarvatt> i'm just hoping nvidia-experimental-310 doesn't get copied to 13.10, its already irrelevant
[05:31] <tjaalton> bryce: ah, nice
[13:58] <mlankhorst> ok looks like I got synchronization to not hang up completely at least :P
[13:59] <tjaalton> btw, isn't it true that 13.04 will be quite boring hybrid-wise?
[13:59] <tjaalton> just like xserver 1.14 will be
[14:06] <mlankhorst> true
[14:06] <mlankhorst> vblanking is impossible to do cross-device right now for example
[18:41] <bryce> Sarvatt, plan is -310 users will get moved to nvidia-current on upgrade to 13.10
[19:28] <mlankhorst> shoo, go vacation
[20:16] <bryce> mlankhorst, heh yep you're right