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| valorie | shadeslayer: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/13/UDS-Badge-Kubuntu_shadeslayer_back_1.png worked perfectly for me | 02:14 |
| valorie | http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/14/rect3810.png did not scan with my phone | 02:15 |
| valorie | http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/14/rect3810.png works too | 02:16 |
| Tm_T | shadeslayer: that seems to work | 06:02 |
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| jussi | good morning all | 07:30 |
| soee | good morning | 07:49 |
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| apachelogger | Sput: shouldn't kwin fall in the category of 'modern post-ICCCM'? | 09:01 |
| Sput | apachelogger: I guess, and it seems to work everywhere except maybe sometimes on *buntu | 09:02 |
| apachelogger | brave assumption considering that everywhere else does not use it by default :P | 09:03 |
| Sput | hm? | 09:04 |
| Sput | what is this "default" thingy you keep talking about? | 09:04 |
| apachelogger | having the quassel as the irc client you get when you installed a given operating system | 09:06 |
| Sput | ah, I thought you were talking about kwin | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | no one uses kwin :P | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | Sput: I do wonder why you have that fullscreen option at all though | 09:07 |
| Sput | I certainly use kwin and can fullscreen with now problem | 09:07 |
| Sput | and we have the fullscreen option because users requested it and sent patches | 09:07 |
| apachelogger | well | 09:07 |
| apachelogger | http://onscreencars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/TheHomer.jpg :P | 09:07 |
| Sput | people love it especially on netbooks and tablets | 09:08 |
| apachelogger | that's beause quassel has so many frames consuming space | 09:09 |
| apachelogger | Sput: did you also get the same backtrace? | 09:09 |
| Sput | I can't reproduce | 09:09 |
| Sput | neither could anybody else not using kubuntu so far | 09:09 |
| Sput | and even for kubuntu users it tends to happen only sometimes, if at all | 09:10 |
| apachelogger | Sput: the dude in the bug apparently can reproduce it somewhat reliably | 09:10 |
| apachelogger | in case you have questions | 09:10 |
| Sput | well, as all *we* do is calling showFullscreen(), I'd blame Qt or the window manager | 09:11 |
| Sput | but let me have an actual look at the stacktrace | 09:13 |
| Sput | I would say KToggleFullScreenAction goes into a loop somehow | 09:15 |
| apachelogger | yeah, just saw that as well | 09:16 |
| apachelogger | explains the stack exhaustion | 09:16 |
| yofel | hm, I think I just reproduced that. Ctrl+Shift+F -> Whole UI except mouse froze -> after half a minute quassel crashed | 09:17 |
| yofel | and now apport-retrace is being mean to me -.- | 09:17 |
| Sput | and I can't reproduce that issue on Gentoo or Arch :/ | 09:20 |
| yofel | well, I'll agree that this is probably something with Qt... | 09:20 |
| Sput | or KDE | 09:23 |
| Sput | unless we're misusing the KToggleFullscreenAction, but why would it work elsewhere then? | 09:24 |
| yofel | now *this* is fun: | 09:24 |
| yofel | *** glibc detected *** gdb: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x00000000023c6250 *** | 09:24 |
| yofel | first time I've seen gdb crash o.O | 09:24 |
| tsdgeos | you're lucky then :D | 09:25 |
| tsdgeos | it crashes almost reliably here | 09:25 |
| yofel | yay...... | 09:25 |
| tsdgeos | just have to set lots of breakpoints, recompile app, restart it | 09:25 |
| tsdgeos | boom! | 09:25 |
| tsdgeos | 70% of the time gdb complains about something and i lose the breakpoints when it crashes :-/ | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | Only checkable actions can be checked. By default, this is false (the action is unchecked). | 09:26 |
| tsdgeos | and obiously 70% is an invented number :D but happens soon enough | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | Sput: you are misusing it :P | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | actually | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | if ( d->window->isFullScreen() != isChecked() ) | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | activate( QAction::Trigger ); | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | ^ event filter | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | so the way to exhaust the stack would be to have the action's checked state diverge from the actual fullscreenness of the windows | 09:28 |
| apachelogger | -s | 09:28 |
| apachelogger | so it keeps loopying in that event filter until at some point for some reason it manages to break out of it and actually apply the toggle | 09:31 |
| yofel | yeah, crashes somewhere in the event filter http://paste.kde.org/625118/ | 09:31 |
| apachelogger | at which point it is lucky enough to have exhaust the stack | 09:31 |
| apachelogger | which in turn makes it very much stack size dependent | 09:32 |
| Sput | so the action is broken | 09:32 |
| apachelogger | maybe, maybe not | 09:32 |
| apachelogger | Sput: Important: If you need to set/change the fullscreen state manually, use KToggleFullScreenAction::setFullScreen() or a similar function, do not call directly the slot connected to the toggled() signal. The slot still needs to explicitly set the window state though. | 09:34 |
| apachelogger | you are using it wrong I say :P | 09:35 |
| apachelogger | also | 09:35 |
| apachelogger | Note: Do NOT use QWidget::showFullScreen() or QWidget::showNormal(). They have several side-effects besides just switching the fullscreen state (for example, showNormal() resets all window states, not just fullscreen). Use the KToggleFullScreenAction::setFullScreen() helper function. | 09:35 |
| apachelogger | yofel, tsdgeos: can one of you rebuild and test? | 09:37 |
| yofel | did you fix it in git? | 09:37 |
| apachelogger | src/qtui/mainwin.cpp | 09:37 |
| apachelogger | void MainWin::toggleFullscreen() | 09:37 |
| tsdgeos | apachelogger: i don't have quassel sources, besides i'm busy writing qml somewhere else | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | instead of showNormal and showFullScreen call KToggleFullScreenAction::setFullScreen(this, false); and KToggleFullScreenAction::setFullScreen(this, true); | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | yofel: ^ | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | (yes that function is static) | 09:38 |
| yofel | will take a bit to build it, but I can try | 09:39 |
| apachelogger | I was under the impression quassel was a rather fast build | 09:39 |
| apachelogger | or am I mixing up things in my head again | 09:39 |
| yofel | well, I can try to build only the client, that shouldn't take too long | 09:40 |
| yofel | this isn't my fastest PC here | 09:40 |
| apachelogger | ah | 09:40 |
| * apachelogger is not at home either :P | 09:41 | |
| apachelogger | also I wasn't able to reproduce it anyway | 09:41 |
| yofel | well, happened 2/2 times here, so I'll try it | 09:42 |
| apachelogger | probaly the slot should follow whatever the checkedness is rather than what the fullscreeness is | 09:42 |
| * yofel notes that this probably needs wrapping into the kde detection | 09:43 | |
| yofel | I doubt plain Qt has KToggleFullScreenAction | 09:44 |
| apachelogger | yofel: it's just so we know whether it fixes the problem | 09:51 |
| apachelogger | proper fix needs a different slot anyway as to obey the action's signal toggled(bool) rather than discard the bool | 09:52 |
| yofel | hm, didn't crash. But let me build git without that fix to be sure it actually makes a difference | 09:53 |
| yofel | apachelogger: yep, fix works | 09:55 |
| yofel | hm... at least I hope it does. Now X is in a loop without quassel *-.- | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | well, once the loop happened X may be broken :P | 10:04 |
| yofel | yeah, your fix works, without it hell breaks loose here | 10:04 |
| apachelogger | xlib is easily confused | 10:04 |
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| shadeslayer | ohai | 12:24 |
| Riddell | ohai? a new indian word to me | 12:25 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: did you do your seed merging? | 12:26 |
| shadeslayer | not yet | 12:27 |
| shadeslayer | a bit perplexed on how to add active-ship to supported | 12:28 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: just add it in STRUCTURE no? | 12:28 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | ah okay | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | lemme update | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | god damnit TCS, stop emailing me | 12:34 |
| Riddell | who? | 12:34 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: Indian IT Company where I got hired but never bothered to join | 12:35 |
| shadeslayer | they're asking everyone who got hired to come join the company on 18th of this month | 12:35 |
| shadeslayer | and I keep getting emails about attire guidelines and how to sit in the office : | 12:36 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 12:36 |
| shadeslayer | They basically hire anyone who can write hello world in C/C++/Java | 12:36 |
| yofel | ... and let them work on... what? | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: it's a services company, so it's mostly maintainence work, and once people join, they train them for 3-4 months | 12:55 |
| shadeslayer | so that they can work on the code | 12:55 |
| shadeslayer | kids here are falling head over heals to work for companies like TCS/Infosys/HCL | 12:56 |
| shadeslayer | not sure why .... | 12:56 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://marcuzzokde.blogspot.in/2012/12/kids-size-kde.html < Kubuntu being used there :D | 12:59 |
| Riddell | awooga | 13:17 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:21 |
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| Quintasan | \o | 13:55 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: "how to sit in the office"? I want to read that! | 14:02 |
| Quintasan | totally | 14:04 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Can I have you create a poll for business card designs or you want me to do that? | 14:04 |
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| Quintasan | hmm | 14:08 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: We only have three designs? | 14:08 |
| Quintasan | 4 including the one at your p.u.c | 14:11 |
| jussi | hrm | 14:17 |
| jussi | Is the updates ppa going to get an update soon? its only 4.9.4... | 14:18 |
| yofel | what are you expecting to see? | 14:20 |
| jussi | couple of points higher? | 14:21 |
| yofel | 4.9.5 isn't out yet, and 4.9.90 is in beta | 14:21 |
| jussi | wait... how does that work? | 14:21 |
| jussi | Im now very confused | 14:22 |
| yofel | updates PPA is for point releases. i.e. 4.9.3 -> 4.9.4. Backports is for 4.X -> 4.Y updates after release, beta ppa before it's released | 14:22 |
| yofel | so 4.9.4 is in updates, 4.9.90 in beta, 4.10 will be in backports | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: please do | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: sec :P | 14:24 |
| yofel | great, google doesn't find our ppa docs o.O | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: if you do create the poll, use http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/cards/UDS-Badge-Kubuntu_shadeslayer.svg and http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/cards/UDS-Badge-Kubuntu_shadeslayer_back_QR.svg from me | 14:24 |
| yofel | now... | 14:25 |
| jussi | yofel: Im more confused about the order of kde releases... | 14:25 |
| yofel | jussi: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuPPAs | 14:25 |
| yofel | jussi: what do you mean? What the version numbers stand for? | 14:25 |
| yofel | or that 4.9.5 comes out after 4.9.90? | 14:25 |
| jussi | yes, the latter | 14:25 |
| yofel | 4.9.5 is bugfix for 4.9, 4.9.90 is beta2 for 4.10 | 14:26 |
| yofel | 4.9 will get bugfixes until 4.10 is out | 14:26 |
| jussi | uhuh | 14:26 |
| jussi | ok | 14:26 |
| jussi | see, I kind f thought it was linear... | 14:26 |
| jussi | :/ | 14:26 |
| yofel | well, it is, but the betas and RCs don't count | 14:26 |
| jussi | thank you for the explanation though | 14:26 |
| yofel | s/but/as/ | 14:27 |
| kubotu | yofel meant: "well, it is, as the betas and RCs don't count" | 14:27 |
| BluesKaj | odd they would cal 4.9.9 , 4.10 ..one expects a %.0 not a 4.ten | 14:27 |
| BluesKaj | 5.0 that is | 14:28 |
| ScottK | No. | 14:28 |
| ScottK | The first digit is a major version number that indicates an ABI break in kdelibs | 14:28 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17090527/HSE-%20Office%20Ergonomics%20Flyer.pdf | 14:29 |
| BluesKaj | I know it's no , but to me after 4.9 comes 5 | 14:29 |
| tsimpson | it's all to do with ABI | 14:30 |
| yofel | it'll be more fun when we have KDE Workspaces and Applications 4.11 using KDE Platform 5.0 - assuming that they'll have it done in half a year | 14:30 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: it's not that bad actually | 14:30 |
| Riddell | version numbers != decimal numbers | 14:30 |
| agateau | BluesKaj: what comes after 4.9.5? | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | it should be 4.10.0 | 14:31 |
| yofel | it will be, but how do you version the 4.10 beta so it's lower than 4.10 -> you use 4.9.90 | 14:32 |
| BluesKaj | agateau, if you don't know , then whay are you asking me ? | 14:32 |
| agateau | BluesKaj: let me rephrase: "what comes after 4.9.5 to you?" | 14:32 |
| BluesKaj | I'm used to laboratory decimal measure convention, it looks odd to my eye | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | 4.9.6 | 14:34 |
| agateau | I agree 4.10.0 is more correct. And this is actually what is used in formal texts. | 14:34 |
| agateau | just not that much in irc conversations | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | 4.9.7, 4.9.8, 4.9.9, 5.0 | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | or 5.00 | 14:35 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: application version numbers usually follow this idea: Major.Minor.Patch.Build - where every position isn't limited to a single digit | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | I'm used to metric measure .. | 14:35 |
| yofel | chromium-browser follows that nicely: 23.0.1271.91 | 14:36 |
| BluesKaj | makes more sense to my lab oriented mind | 14:36 |
| tsimpson | the dot is just a separator, not a decimal point | 14:37 |
| tsimpson | could just as easily been a comma | 14:37 |
| rdieter | hi, I just worked with dantti this morning to fix an arguably nasty bug in print-manager that fills cups access_log and users' .xsession-errors with excessive logging about printer subscription renewals, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311528 | 15:48 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 311528 in general "Renew-Subscription spam in /var/log/cups/access_log" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 15:48 |
| rdieter | and patch against 0.2 : http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/kde-print-manager.git/tree/print-manager-0.2.0-cups_renew_spam.patch?h=f18 | 15:48 |
| rdieter | since you're shipping it by default (so i'm told) like we are, enjoy. | 15:49 |
| Riddell | lovely, thanks rdieter | 15:49 |
| rdieter | much nicer to renew every 3500 seconds, rather than milliseconds | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 15:58 |
| Riddell | ScottK: problems in kblocks nad kbounce? | 16:44 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Yes. Missing copyrights. I fixed and uploaded kblocks. Doing kbounce right now. | 16:44 |
| Riddell | thanks | 16:45 |
| ScottK | For a one or two line fix in debian/copyright, it's easier for me just to fix and reupload. | 16:45 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Same with kfourinline | 17:33 |
| ScottK | And kgoldrunner | 17:44 |
| xnox | why are we shipping 71 empty language-pack-kde-* packages? | 18:42 |
| yofel | xnox: IIRC they act as meta packages | 18:46 |
| yofel | currently at least | 18:46 |
| xnox | yofel: and kde-l10n-CC cannot act as metapackages? | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | ooooohhhhhhhhh | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: I found something | 18:48 |
| xnox | yofel: also language-pack-kde-* pull in gnome translations. | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: pull-lp-source freetype | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | and read the rules | 18:48 |
| yofel | probably, but I think our language-selector stand-in currently needs the language-pack stuff | 18:49 |
| yofel | xnox: does language-pack-CC contain gnome translations? | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | they do 2 builds :D | 18:49 |
| xnox | yofel: it has a dependency to gnome language packs. | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | btw has anyone tried out infinality? | 18:50 |
| yofel | xnox: but if we're already on that matter, if someone installs nautilus - how would that get translated without the language pack installed? | 18:50 |
| xnox | yofel: my naive expection for incomplete-language support daemon to notice things like that. | 18:52 |
| yofel | IIRC that's currenly broken as we don't use language-selector, but I haven't looked at l10n much lately | 18:52 |
| ScottK | Riddell: No messages.sh in kgoldrunner or kiriki. I'd accepted kgoldrunner before I noticed. Rejecting kiriki (and not fixing it myself). Would you please have a look at both. | 19:16 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Sorry, kgoldrunner's fine. It was kigo. | 19:16 |
| ScottK | kjumpingcube was missing a copyright. Fixed and reuploaded. | 19:22 |
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| Noskcaj | why do you guys still have a ppc version? no-one can run kubuntu on ppc (at least old-world macs) so it get essentially no use and hasn't been tested since i joined. | 23:10 |
| Riddell | Noskcaj: it only gets released if it's tested so someone will have | 23:18 |
| Riddell | in general I'd be all for dropping it but others have the opinion of keep it while it gets tested | 23:18 |
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