[13:46] okay i'm baffled. i've done some basic d-i tinkering. just added/removed packages, nothing abnormal. installation fails. apparently debootstrap can't install base-files on the first try [13:57] directhex: can you paste your preseed? [13:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1436906/ [14:00] directhex: and what image are you preseeding? alternate/mini/server ? [14:00] alternate. [14:01] * xnox ponders if there is something else also selected by default in tasksel/first which you are now deselecting - e.g. base/core/something like that. [14:02] just the basic debootstrap is failing from the cdr... hm. tinkering... [14:05] the installer syslog would help === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [14:06] (but I'm on holiday today, about to take my daughter to speech therapy) [14:06] nothing wrong in the preseed file, and tasksel is after base system installation so can't be relevant [14:07] debootstrap's fine when is on the web, but not when is file:///cdrom, which clearly makes no sense when i didn't touch any of the base packages from the cd [14:07] hmph [14:07] one possible fragility that comes to mind is that it can be worth making sure the Packages file is sorted by package name [14:08] but anyway, would need to see logs, failing that happy to debug an image directly if you can put it up for download (may take a little while since as I said on holiday) [14:08] * cjwatson vanishes [14:08] ...alphabetical Packages file? huh... [14:12] directhex: Yeah, debootstrap installs packages in the order it finds them, and some hacks/assumptions in various bits take that into account. Since the "real" Debian and Ubuntu archives and CDs are always in the same order, that mostly works. [14:13] I'm with Colin, though, without logs, "debootstrap doesn't work" doesn't mean much. [14:19] debootstrap isn't super verbose, even with --verbose. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1437097/ [14:21] bug 1001131 ? [14:21] Launchpad bug 1001131 in debootstrap (Ubuntu) "debootstrap fails to install customized Ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001131 [14:23] xnox, yes, that's my bug [14:25] directhex: since you have a reproducer =) you are in the best position to solve it generically =) [14:25] ;-) [14:26] well, either i could modify apt-ftparchive to always reorder its output in this edge case, or gently patch debootstrap with the proposed 2-line change [14:26] the latter sounds somewhat more sane [14:31] right, new iso [14:33] ... not my day. main-menu segfaulting. [14:37] *sigh* yeah, fridays are sometimes odd. [14:42] maybe i should memtest my laptop whilst i'm at the shops [14:46] directhex: if you do, use precise and older...memtest86 has a nasty bug in quantal+ [15:05] progress! installer seemingly functional now, with patched debootstrap [15:05] *win* [15:06] and it's all thanks to xnox for finding that bug report. thanks xnox [15:06] * xnox feels all special [15:06] if this works to completion in the next 14 minutes then i don't need to worry about overtime. [15:13] victory \o/ [15:31] What's this "overtime" thing he was talking about?