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AlanBellhttp://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=do+you+know+the+muffin+man%3F this weeks moment of zen00:24
daftykinsstill awaiting a purpose for that site ;)00:24
AlanBellit powers siri doesn't it?00:29
AlanBellhttp://www.tuaw.com/2011/11/26/siri-wolfram-alpha-trick-lets-you-know-what-is-flying-overhead/00:31
popeyit powers bits of siri00:39
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danfishmorning puny earthlings! Only 1 week until we descend and destroy your world!08:26
dwatkinsdanfish: ah you're from the Mayan mothership?08:54
danfishdwatkins: a tip for survival - do not eat mayannaise next Friday08:59
czajkowskialoha09:01
MooDoohello all09:07
dwatkinsmornin09:08
dwatkinsdanfish: I don't tend to eat a lot of it anyway, so I'll probably be safe - thanks for the tip :)09:08
popeymorning09:08
czajkowskihow's everyone doing?09:09
MooDootired, but glad it's friday09:09
czajkowskiam off work till tuesday :)09:10
MooDooMy last day is next wed, then that's it till jan 2nd :)09:10
AlanBellpopey: I have the wireless working on the novatech09:30
popeyon which release09:30
popeyalso yay09:30
AlanBellraring09:30
AlanBellbug 104946609:31
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1049466 in linux (Ubuntu Quantal) "Need support of Ralink RT3290 support" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104946609:31
AlanBellneeded to get the right firmware from kernel.org for the rt329009:32
AlanBellthis is now a very very nice little machine09:33
AlanBellgnome-shell is so nice09:35
SuperMattI've been running it again for the last couple of days09:37
SuperMattit is very nice in its simplicity09:37
daubersMorning09:51
popey:(09:56
* AlanBell needs to be recaffinated09:56
dwatkinstea is required in the boot process09:58
* MooDoo just got a coffee and a mince pie09:59
daubershttps://plus.google.com/u/0/114588339784440319020/posts/3CoUX4Xwhh510:03
daubersShe's in for a shock if that phone rings...10:03
dwatkinsaww10:04
* dwatkins adds daubers 10:04
* MooDoo add daubers10:05
* SuperMatt adds daubers 10:08
SuperMattI love that  mug#10:09
daubersWhich one?10:10
daubersThe flowery one or the other one?10:10
dwatkinsclassic DS, too10:10
SuperMattoh the flowery one10:11
AlanBellbit blown away by gnome-shell search providers10:18
popey?10:25
SuperMattAlanBell: bit annoying that it doesn't search documents by default10:27
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AlanBellI can understand that, but I don't have a need for local document search really10:37
AlanBellthey should be in a document management system like Alfresco or google docs or Owncloud or whatever10:38
SuperMattshould be, yes10:47
SuperMattbut not always10:47
davmor2Morning all11:03
MooDoomorning davmor2 :)11:04
davmor2MooDoo: me owld mucka11:07
diplodavmor2: How did you get on with Django the other week mate ?11:07
davmor2diplo: I got it up and running in the end but then got stumped but my lack of html knowledge :)11:10
andylock1anI love the django admin for simple projects;11:13
diploheb davmor211:15
diploheh*11:15
davmor2andylock1an: I agree for ease of setup it's a dream, lack of CSS, html knowledge kinda makes it suck to use was you have the site up11:17
davmor2although the grab a template sites make that easier too11:19
diploI may have to look at it again soon for my home server11:19
AlanBellpopey: dunno if you have tried it, but in a gnome-shell session if you go to https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/512/wikipedia-search-provider/ you can just slide the slidey thing, then it installs itself11:20
AlanBellthen <super> w tree  to find arboreal facts of interest11:21
andylock1andavmor2:  I'm getting stuck now I've spent a bit of time with php5.311:21
popeyahh11:21
* andylock1an loves composer11:21
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brobostigongood morning everyone,11:22
davmor2andylockran: is that Komposer you love or some other tool?11:22
davmor2Kompozer in fact :)11:24
AlanBellmassively easy to install, and they work like lenses, and you write them in javascript11:25
andylockranshould have done this months ago -> (Just bought a hybrid ssd off ebuyer for my Mac.  Current SSd (120GB too small)11:25
andylockrandavmor2: composer - getcomposer.org11:26
AlanBellI suspect it might be possible to wrap unity lenses up and have them work in both11:26
andylockranlazy deps management for php projects;11:26
andylockranlazy/developer-led11:26
AlanBellor write a unity lens wrapper to expose gnome-shell search providers to unity11:26
AlanBellor write an amazon searching gnome-shell extension \o/11:27
mungojerrydoes anyone know how i can expand my /data partition on my phone running CM7?11:36
SuperMattnot a clue, sorry11:38
mungojerryseriously low on sotrage, g+ and fb etc are caning my space11:39
mungojerrybut my cache is on internal sd11:40
mungojerrythat 40mb wold be great to free up11:40
dwatkinsaside from replacing the MicroSD card, asssuming that's where the space is used up, mungojerry?11:43
mungojerrydata is on my phone internal storage11:44
mungojerryeven moving to ext SD card uses a lot of space in internal storage11:44
mungojerry"CM7 also supports the standard move to sdcard method that you can also use (and might already be aware of. Downside: /data get's full anyway really soon)"11:46
mungojerryyep thats my problem11:46
mungojerryhttp://android.stackexchange.com/questions/24260/low-space-on-htc-desire-with-cyanogenmod-7-1-how-to-solve-it11:47
dwatkinsI have a Desire HD, but perhaps it has more internal storage, as I don't have this problem.11:47
mungojerrymy data is 148mb and cache is 40 mb11:47
mungojerry= all internal storage11:48
directhexyay android11:48
dwatkinsI don't know where to see the capacity of /data11:49
dwatkinsmy internal storage appears to be 1GB11:49
mungojerryold desire is lacking somewhat in storage11:50
danfishmungojerry: when I had a desire storage was alway a mare. Replaced it in the end with a chinese galaxy note knockoff which is fab11:54
mungojerrythink i have a solution danfish11:55
mungojerry Back up your sdcard, and then partition it (I usually suggest 1GB) through ROM Manager or recovery, and then reboot into CM and install S2E from the market. Enable all the options except for moving data (as it can cause slow performance), reboot and you are now using the ext partition for all your apps (no need to "move app to sd" as it is all done automagically.11:55
danfishgood11:55
mungojerrynot sure why i need to repartition my sd card rather than using a folder on it though11:57
danfishmungojerry: the mysteries of android!11:58
mungojerryor the problems of forums..11:58
mungojerrynever know if it is legit info11:58
danfishmungojerry: the slight prob with modded android versions working out which patch, mod etc applies to your version12:05
jacobwafternoon12:47
mungojerryany recommendations for a tumble drier?12:58
dwatkinsBosch or John Lewis' own12:58
mungojerrybosch are great, but may be out of price range12:59
mungojerryJL? really12:59
dwatkinsmungojerry: yeah, I had a washer/dryer from them which was very reliable. Many of their white-goods are rebranded Bosch or similar, I think.13:04
davmor2bigcalm: Hey dude just grabbing an iso from ubuntu.virginmedia.com at a meagre 7.4Mb per second according to FF13:05
davmor2MB sorry13:05
dwatkinsI used to get pretty good bandwidth from within Virgin's network from their servers too.13:05
mungojerrydo condenser dryers need a room with a lot of ventilation?13:06
bigcalmdavmor2: goit13:06
dwatkinsmungojerry: mind just used the drain, not sure what kind of dryer it was though13:07
davmor2bigcalm: you asked how fast it was ages ago so I am letting you know13:07
bigcalm:)13:07
bigcalmdavmor2: it's a steady 3.8mb/s for me. Ah well13:10
davmor2bigcalm: well it was the first file I've downloaded that was big enough to get an average speed everything else disappears before you get time to check ;)13:11
mungojerrywow, impress.js is a lot quicker in chrome than ff13:34
mungojerrylooks like i've mullered my phone14:10
czajkowskiaway14:28
davmor2czajkowski: You can' t be telling an entire channel to go away :P14:59
SuperMattI don't want to go away :(15:01
AlanBell /begone15:05
davmor2AlanBell: don't you start too15:07
mungojerryanyone with a htc desire, i can confirm that the low internal storage problem is fixable :P15:30
dwatkinshooray15:30
mungojerrynow have 100MB free in storage15:30
bigcalmI have a kittycat on my lap. Makes work tricky15:31
diplooooh mungojerry, wonder if that'd work on my wildfire15:33
mungojerryprobably15:34
mungojerryyou using CM7?15:34
diployeah15:34
mungojerrybasically, you need to backup your SD card, boot into clockworkmod, adnvanced settings, repartition sd card, choose 512mb for sd-ext and 0mnb for swap, then copy back data onto sd card partition (including .hidden files), install S2E app and move stuff except for Application Data in S2E onto sd-ext15:36
diploSounds easy enough15:37
diploWill take a look at S2E15:37
mungojerryforgot what apps i uninstalled now15:43
mungojerryto make space15:43
diploGo to google market15:43
diploHas a history, and can force to install from there15:44
mungojerryah yeah, seems to be a mishmash of tablet+phone apps but ok15:51
andylockranquiet in here17:05
AlanBellBOO!!!17:05
davmor2AlanBell: AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!17:08
mgdmKHAAAAAAAAAN17:09
andylockranah17:09
* andylockran jumps17:09
dogmatic69wow, youtube is spitting out 502's all over.17:40
dogmatic69never seen google stuff down17:40
davmor2http://cheezburger.com/6872388864 I want this17:46
danfishhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11954932 <- it's the start of the end, we're doooooooomed.....17:51
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neurodogmatic69: you've obviously not been around the interwebs for too long18:04
danfishgoogle maps was fracked earlier too18:05
danfishprob iphone users18:05
dogmatic69neuro: I've been on the internet long enough to know what hotbot is.18:06
neurothen i retract my previous remark18:06
ali1234Azelphur: any idea why if i play tf2 on any server but yours, it gets stuck at "retrieving server info" for about 5 minutes? and then "sending client info" for another 5 minutes, every time the map changes?18:23
MartijnVdSAzelphur: You bought some Korean monitors from Ebay earlier this year, right?19:27
Azelphuryep, using them now19:28
Azelphurali1234: no idea at all, I guess my servers rule19:29
Azelphurmy servers are faster at mapchanges because we use an SSD19:29
MartijnVdSAzelphur: Were they "brand" screens, or just "brand" panels in generic housings?19:29
Azelphurthey are Matrix Neo 1440p monitors19:31
AzelphurI think the panels are LG, dunno19:31
MartijnVdSAzelphur: I've heard a lot of the "no-brand" screens (with LG panels) go for $350ish now19:31
MartijnVdSAzelphur: even cheaper if you want to risk dead pixels19:31
AzelphurMartijnVdS: mine were £200ish, zero dead pixel check before shipping19:34
Azelphurall 4 work still, all 4 have no dead pixels19:34
MartijnVdSoh that's CHEAP :)19:34
Azelphurindeed19:35
Azelphurhttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2012/August/2012-08-07-214518_610x777_scrot.png19:35
popeydid you have to pay VAT when they arrived?19:36
Azelphurpopey: on one of the monitors they charged me £7, the others all got through fine19:36
Azelphuriirc they wrote $50 commercial sample on the shipping invoice19:37
popeyhah19:40
popeyfraud then okay ;)19:40
* Azelphur shrugs19:40
MartijnVdSAzelphur: Found the seller, he still sells them :)19:40
MartijnVdS"built-in speakers!"19:41
Azelphuryea I think he's hiked his prices since I bought them19:41
Azelphurhi things nobody uses19:41
Azelphur:P19:41
MartijnVdSAzelphur: http://www.ebay.com/itm/27-Inch-irun-ZT-SH270QHD-2560x1440-WQHD-Quad-HD-Monitor-S-IPS-/140896765552?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item20ce1a067019:41
Azelphurthat's the same guy, but a different monitor19:41
Azelphuralthough it's probably the same panel19:41
Azelphurand the case looks exactly the same, I think that's just a rebrand19:42
MartijnVdSthe "Matrix Neo" ones are $50019:42
Azelphurthe buttons, stand, everything, are identical to my matrix neos19:42
Azelphurso that's probably the same monitor, just with a different label on the front19:42
AzelphurI'm actually looking for a TV - I should see if they do big versions19:43
solarcloud_3scrnevening ..19:48
neuroAzelphur: "commercial shipping sample", nice19:49
Azelphur\o/19:49
neuroi got two 22" dell monitors shipped to me for work when i was working for Linden Lab19:50
neurothe receptionist at the SF office put "value: $2000" on them19:50
neuroeach19:50
Azelphurouch lol19:50
neuroi had to pay 90 quid each before they would be let out of hock at stansted19:50
neuroreclaimed by expenses natch, but still a pain in the arse19:51
Azelphuryea :p19:51
MartijnVdShmm19:54
MartijnVdSapparently, my ASUS mainboard doesn't do dual-link DVI19:54
MartijnVdSI'll wait with the new screen until I have a new PC then ;)19:55
solarcloud_3scrnJust watching 2012 on Linux videio :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Unfx2qCj6Ao19:55
solarcloud_3scrnI'm on OMG ubuntu at moment... looks good.19:58
Azelphurjust built this for my cousins christmas present, think it came out quite nice for a budget (£500) build (inc windows license) https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvti0fdy8m7axt8/2012-12-14%2020.02.19.jpg?m :D20:04
solarcloud_3scrnMan I am too emotional tonite ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY_MUB8adEQ20:04
solarcloud_3scrnAzelphur, Nice is that a alman case ?20:06
solarcloud_3scrn**Zalman case ??20:06
Azelphuryes, a Zalman Z1120:06
solarcloud_3scrnlooks good.20:06
solarcloud_3scrnprobably need to let it breathe thou.20:06
solarcloud_3scrnave you tried a sharkoon silent fan ?20:07
Azelphuryea I havn't exactly been benching it like that, I left the wrappers on to keep it nice and it has to be driven quite a long way20:07
Azelphurusing the stock fans that came with the case, for a budget case it actually looks really nice and comes with a bunch of fans20:07
solarcloud_3scrnit is nice :)20:07
Azelphurthe only thing I don't like about it, is the usb 3 support. It doesn't connect to a standard USB header20:08
Azelphurinstead you are expected to run the cables out the back through a PCI slot and into a USB 3 PCI slot20:08
solarcloud_3scrnok,right .. i just use usb 2.020:08
mgdm      discovered today that although my laptop can connect to an 11n network, it can't actually send any traffic over it20:10
mgdmbah20:10
solarcloud_3scrnG+ is broke again :(20:11
MartijnVdSsolarcloud_3scrn: it is?!20:20
solarcloud_3scrnworking now .. just watching AlanBell https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VlncLIpDxNs#!20:21
ali1234Azelphur: 5 minutes is not exageration, something is wrong. by the time i connect the map is over20:23
mungbeanah, that moment when you're rooting your wife's phone and you think you've bricked it...20:23
mungbeanthen you restart it again and it comes back to life20:24
Azelphurali1234: I've noticed the linux beta has issues with long mapchanges too20:31
directhexmgdm, intel can't do 11n on linux, because intel are smelly like poop21:51
directhexnote: AP-dependent failure21:51
mgdmah, hmmm21:52
mgdmI just turned it off21:52
mgdmafter a perplexed few minutes21:52
directhexomg!22:18
directhexcheap monitor alert!22:18
directhexAzelphur, this is your kind of deal22:18
Azelphurdirecthex: more monitors?22:18
directhexAzelphur, the dell-made 1440p's, with no compromise at all on features or warranty, for £37022:19
Azelphurdirecthex: only twice what I paid for mine ;)22:19
* Azelphur is the master of shopping22:19
directhexyour korean specials?22:19
Azelphuryep22:19
directhexhdcp?22:19
Azelphurdvi only22:19
directhexright. hence "no compromise at all on features or warranty"22:21
AzelphurI have a warranty22:21
Azelphurand it's better than the one on the dell probably, I have 0 pixels22:21
Azelphurbut yea, I compromised on features to knock the price down, I'll only ever use these with my PC, so the other features are totally moot for me :)22:22
directhexvga, dvi, displayport, hdmi, height adjust stand, 3 year warranty, and no dead pixel guarantee22:22
directhexand usb3 hub, fwiw22:23
Azelphurah, it's a better then22:23
Azelphurbut I still wouldn't pay 2x as much for those features22:23
Azelphurdirecthex: I'm even winning at my first big food shop after moving into my flat, 90% of my basket is half price offer xD22:25
ali1234been there22:26
Azelphurhehe22:26
ali1234i hope you enjoy eating weird stuff like peanut butter and spaghetti22:27
Azelphurali1234: nah, I got good stuff like orange/apple juice, coke, etc22:27
ali1234that's not food22:27
Azelphursuddenly technicalities22:28
ali1234and stop buying coke, drink tea instead, it's about 100 times cheaper22:28
ali1234black tea with sugar22:28
Azelphuryea I don't drink all that much coke, it's nice to have for visitors or the odd occasion, I mostly drink water/juices22:28
ali1234because it's too hard to keep fresh milk all the time22:28
Azelphuralthough there was this one time when I got addicted to pepsi max, haha22:28
AzelphurI stopped drinking it and had to go through withdrawal symptoms, not even kidding xD22:29
ali1234yeah i've been there too22:29
directhexi was spending about a hundred pounds a month on premium colas for a while.22:31
directhexi ain't kidding. http://twitter.yfrog.com/z/0f1y6pj22:33
Laneyofficially started christmas shopping22:34
directhex;o22:35
directhexXMAS GETS EARLIER EVERY YEAR22:35
shaunoepic monkey22:38
daftykinscor that's a bit of a tip22:48
shaunoI got distracted by the epic monkey, and ended up buying a 51" stuffed toy off ebay :(  how does this happen.23:17
shaunoI just hope it arrives while I'm home, so I don't have to carry it 4km home from the depot23:18
daftykins:D23:18
dwatkinsshauno: Pinkie Pie or Rainbow Dash?23:37
shaunoit just calls it monkey.  'coffee' coloured.  http://www.ebay.ie/itm/11091100808023:37
daftykinsholy... that's massive23:38
dwatkinswow, that's one heck of a monkey23:38
daftykinsmy puppy would have a fit of excitement seeing that :O23:38
dwatkinsthe girl in the picture appears to be having difficulty carrying it23:38
daftykinsstuffing everywhere...23:38
daftykinsshe's the delivery girl23:38
daftykinsthat's why P&P is free23:38
daftykins:>23:38
shaunodaftykins: our old dog would have !ohmy'd it :(23:38
dwatkinshmm, only 3kg23:39
dwatkinshere's an equally epic monkey you cannot buy: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/02/snub-nosed-monkeys/holland-text23:40
dwatkinsalso found in China, however23:40
shaunoand the canadian version, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/12/09/toronto-monkey-ikea.html23:41
dwatkinsthe coat it's wearing is superb23:41
shaunoindeed23:42
dwatkinsI may have to get me a Timmy if I place an order from ThinkGeek in the new year.23:43
daftykinsheh23:44
shaunomy last monkey got hijacked.  he lives in the office, and they attribute bad luck to it if it goes missing.  so I no longer have a deskmonkey at home23:44
shaunoit also got ransomed last time I turned the wrong PDU off :(23:45
daftykinsXD23:45
dwatkinsan apt punishment23:45
daftykinsi have one of these on my desk: http://www.mooch.org.uk/images/mooch1.jpg23:46
shaunomine came out of one of those arm-grab machines23:46
dwatkinsI recently aquired a monkey like this: http://www.purebaby.co.uk/jellycat-rollo-monkey.ir?cName=playtime-soft-toys23:47
shaunomy date was very unimpressed.  "yes, under SOP you get the toy.  but it's a monkey, you see?"23:47
dwatkinsIt was crashed-out on the side of the bath like it had had a rather heavy night23:47
dwatkinsIt has an evil twin, due to a removal truck disaster.23:48
dwatkinsSquished monkey is not happy.23:48
shaunoI use to have a 'flying monkey' from thinkgeek.  very fun, very noisy.  but not very popular23:49
dwatkinsA colleague had the same flying monkey, it got confiscated when it landed on the 'wrong' person's desk (i.e. mine) due to the frequency with which it flew across the office.23:49
daftykinsyou thief :(23:49
dwatkinsHe never did work out where it was hiding for two months, until it magically appeared on his desk again.23:50
dwatkinsHe threw it at me ;)23:50
dwatkinsI decided that consituted a donation.23:50

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