[00:24] <AlanBell> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=do+you+know+the+muffin+man%3F this weeks moment of zen
[00:24] <daftykins> still awaiting a purpose for that site ;)
[00:29] <AlanBell> it powers siri doesn't it?
[00:31] <AlanBell> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/11/26/siri-wolfram-alpha-trick-lets-you-know-what-is-flying-overhead/
[00:39] <popey> it powers bits of siri
[08:26] <danfish> morning puny earthlings! Only 1 week until we descend and destroy your world!
[08:54] <dwatkins> danfish: ah you're from the Mayan mothership?
[08:59] <danfish> dwatkins: a tip for survival - do not eat mayannaise next Friday
[09:01] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:07] <MooDoo> hello all
[09:08] <dwatkins> mornin
[09:08] <dwatkins> danfish: I don't tend to eat a lot of it anyway, so I'll probably be safe - thanks for the tip :)
[09:08] <popey> morning
[09:09] <czajkowski> how's everyone doing?
[09:09] <MooDoo> tired, but glad it's friday
[09:10] <czajkowski> am off work till tuesday :)
[09:10] <MooDoo> My last day is next wed, then that's it till jan 2nd :)
[09:30] <AlanBell> popey: I have the wireless working on the novatech
[09:30] <popey> on which release
[09:30] <popey> also yay
[09:30] <AlanBell> raring
[09:31] <AlanBell> bug 1049466
[09:32] <AlanBell> needed to get the right firmware from kernel.org for the rt3290
[09:33] <AlanBell> this is now a very very nice little machine
[09:35] <AlanBell> gnome-shell is so nice
[09:37] <SuperMatt> I've been running it again for the last couple of days
[09:37] <SuperMatt> it is very nice in its simplicity
[09:51] <daubers> Morning
[09:56] <popey> :(
[09:56]  * AlanBell needs to be recaffinated
[09:58] <dwatkins> tea is required in the boot process
[09:59]  * MooDoo just got a coffee and a mince pie
[10:03] <daubers> https://plus.google.com/u/0/114588339784440319020/posts/3CoUX4Xwhh5
[10:03] <daubers> She's in for a shock if that phone rings...
[10:04] <dwatkins> aww
[10:04]  * dwatkins adds daubers 
[10:05]  * MooDoo add daubers
[10:08]  * SuperMatt adds daubers 
[10:09] <SuperMatt> I love that  mug#
[10:10] <daubers> Which one?
[10:10] <daubers> The flowery one or the other one?
[10:10] <dwatkins> classic DS, too
[10:11] <SuperMatt> oh the flowery one
[10:18] <AlanBell> bit blown away by gnome-shell search providers
[10:25] <popey> ?
[10:27] <SuperMatt> AlanBell: bit annoying that it doesn't search documents by default
[10:37] <AlanBell> I can understand that, but I don't have a need for local document search really
[10:38] <AlanBell> they should be in a document management system like Alfresco or google docs or Owncloud or whatever
[10:47] <SuperMatt> should be, yes
[10:47] <SuperMatt> but not always
[11:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:04] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 :)
[11:07] <davmor2> MooDoo: me owld mucka
[11:07] <diplo> davmor2: How did you get on with Django the other week mate ?
[11:10] <davmor2> diplo: I got it up and running in the end but then got stumped but my lack of html knowledge :)
[11:13] <andylock1an> I love the django admin for simple projects;
[11:15] <diplo> heb davmor2
[11:15] <diplo> heh*
[11:17] <davmor2> andylock1an: I agree for ease of setup it's a dream, lack of CSS, html knowledge kinda makes it suck to use was you have the site up
[11:19] <davmor2> although the grab a template sites make that easier too
[11:19] <diplo> I may have to look at it again soon for my home server
[11:20] <AlanBell> popey: dunno if you have tried it, but in a gnome-shell session if you go to https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/512/wikipedia-search-provider/ you can just slide the slidey thing, then it installs itself
[11:21] <AlanBell> then <super> w tree  to find arboreal facts of interest
[11:21] <andylock1an> davmor2:  I'm getting stuck now I've spent a bit of time with php5.3
[11:21] <popey> ahh
[11:21]  * andylock1an loves composer
[11:22] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[11:22] <davmor2> andylockran: is that Komposer you love or some other tool?
[11:24] <davmor2> Kompozer in fact :)
[11:25] <AlanBell> massively easy to install, and they work like lenses, and you write them in javascript
[11:25] <andylockran> should have done this months ago -> (Just bought a hybrid ssd off ebuyer for my Mac.  Current SSd (120GB too small)
[11:26] <andylockran> davmor2: composer - getcomposer.org
[11:26] <AlanBell> I suspect it might be possible to wrap unity lenses up and have them work in both
[11:26] <andylockran> lazy deps management for php projects;
[11:26] <andylockran> lazy/developer-led
[11:26] <AlanBell> or write a unity lens wrapper to expose gnome-shell search providers to unity
[11:27] <AlanBell> or write an amazon searching gnome-shell extension \o/
[11:36] <mungojerry> does anyone know how i can expand my /data partition on my phone running CM7?
[11:38] <SuperMatt> not a clue, sorry
[11:39] <mungojerry> seriously low on sotrage, g+ and fb etc are caning my space
[11:40] <mungojerry> but my cache is on internal sd
[11:40] <mungojerry> that 40mb wold be great to free up
[11:43] <dwatkins> aside from replacing the MicroSD card, asssuming that's where the space is used up, mungojerry?
[11:44] <mungojerry> data is on my phone internal storage
[11:44] <mungojerry> even moving to ext SD card uses a lot of space in internal storage
[11:46] <mungojerry> "CM7 also supports the standard move to sdcard method that you can also use (and might already be aware of. Downside: /data get's full anyway really soon)"
[11:46] <mungojerry> yep thats my problem
[11:47] <mungojerry> http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/24260/low-space-on-htc-desire-with-cyanogenmod-7-1-how-to-solve-it
[11:47] <dwatkins> I have a Desire HD, but perhaps it has more internal storage, as I don't have this problem.
[11:47] <mungojerry> my data is 148mb and cache is 40 mb
[11:48] <mungojerry> = all internal storage
[11:48] <directhex> yay android
[11:49] <dwatkins> I don't know where to see the capacity of /data
[11:49] <dwatkins> my internal storage appears to be 1GB
[11:50] <mungojerry> old desire is lacking somewhat in storage
[11:54] <danfish> mungojerry: when I had a desire storage was alway a mare. Replaced it in the end with a chinese galaxy note knockoff which is fab
[11:55] <mungojerry> think i have a solution danfish
[11:55] <mungojerry>  Back up your sdcard, and then partition it (I usually suggest 1GB) through ROM Manager or recovery, and then reboot into CM and install S2E from the market. Enable all the options except for moving data (as it can cause slow performance), reboot and you are now using the ext partition for all your apps (no need to "move app to sd" as it is all done automagically.
[11:55] <danfish> good
[11:57] <mungojerry> not sure why i need to repartition my sd card rather than using a folder on it though
[11:58] <danfish> mungojerry: the mysteries of android!
[11:58] <mungojerry> or the problems of forums..
[11:58] <mungojerry> never know if it is legit info
[12:05] <danfish> mungojerry: the slight prob with modded android versions working out which patch, mod etc applies to your version
[12:47] <jacobw> afternoon
[12:58] <mungojerry> any recommendations for a tumble drier?
[12:58] <dwatkins> Bosch or John Lewis' own
[12:59] <mungojerry> bosch are great, but may be out of price range
[12:59] <mungojerry> JL? really
[13:04] <dwatkins> mungojerry: yeah, I had a washer/dryer from them which was very reliable. Many of their white-goods are rebranded Bosch or similar, I think.
[13:05] <davmor2> bigcalm: Hey dude just grabbing an iso from ubuntu.virginmedia.com at a meagre 7.4Mb per second according to FF
[13:05] <davmor2> MB sorry
[13:05] <dwatkins> I used to get pretty good bandwidth from within Virgin's network from their servers too.
[13:06] <mungojerry> do condenser dryers need a room with a lot of ventilation?
[13:06] <bigcalm> davmor2: goit
[13:07] <dwatkins> mungojerry: mind just used the drain, not sure what kind of dryer it was though
[13:07] <davmor2> bigcalm: you asked how fast it was ages ago so I am letting you know
[13:07] <bigcalm> :)
[13:10] <bigcalm> davmor2: it's a steady 3.8mb/s for me. Ah well
[13:11] <davmor2> bigcalm: well it was the first file I've downloaded that was big enough to get an average speed everything else disappears before you get time to check ;)
[13:34] <mungojerry> wow, impress.js is a lot quicker in chrome than ff
[14:10] <mungojerry> looks like i've mullered my phone
[14:28] <czajkowski> away
[14:59] <davmor2> czajkowski: You can' t be telling an entire channel to go away :P
[15:01] <SuperMatt> I don't want to go away :(
[15:05] <AlanBell>  /begone
[15:07] <davmor2> AlanBell: don't you start too
[15:30] <mungojerry> anyone with a htc desire, i can confirm that the low internal storage problem is fixable :P
[15:30] <dwatkins> hooray
[15:30] <mungojerry> now have 100MB free in storage
[15:31] <bigcalm> I have a kittycat on my lap. Makes work tricky
[15:33] <diplo> oooh mungojerry, wonder if that'd work on my wildfire
[15:34] <mungojerry> probably
[15:34] <mungojerry> you using CM7?
[15:34] <diplo> yeah
[15:36] <mungojerry> basically, you need to backup your SD card, boot into clockworkmod, adnvanced settings, repartition sd card, choose 512mb for sd-ext and 0mnb for swap, then copy back data onto sd card partition (including .hidden files), install S2E app and move stuff except for Application Data in S2E onto sd-ext
[15:37] <diplo> Sounds easy enough
[15:37] <diplo> Will take a look at S2E
[15:43] <mungojerry> forgot what apps i uninstalled now
[15:43] <mungojerry> to make space
[15:43] <diplo> Go to google market
[15:44] <diplo> Has a history, and can force to install from there
[15:51] <mungojerry> ah yeah, seems to be a mishmash of tablet+phone apps but ok
[17:05] <andylockran> quiet in here
[17:05] <AlanBell> BOO!!!
[17:08] <davmor2> AlanBell: AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:09] <mgdm> KHAAAAAAAAAN
[17:09] <andylockran> ah
[17:09]  * andylockran jumps
[17:40] <dogmatic69> wow, youtube is spitting out 502's all over.
[17:40] <dogmatic69> never seen google stuff down
[17:46] <davmor2> http://cheezburger.com/6872388864 I want this
[17:51] <danfish> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11954932 <- it's the start of the end, we're doooooooomed.....
[18:04] <neuro> dogmatic69: you've obviously not been around the interwebs for too long
[18:05] <danfish> google maps was fracked earlier too
[18:05] <danfish> prob iphone users
[18:06] <dogmatic69> neuro: I've been on the internet long enough to know what hotbot is.
[18:06] <neuro> then i retract my previous remark
[18:23] <ali1234> Azelphur: any idea why if i play tf2 on any server but yours, it gets stuck at "retrieving server info" for about 5 minutes? and then "sending client info" for another 5 minutes, every time the map changes?
[19:27] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: You bought some Korean monitors from Ebay earlier this year, right?
[19:28] <Azelphur> yep, using them now
[19:29] <Azelphur> ali1234: no idea at all, I guess my servers rule
[19:29] <Azelphur> my servers are faster at mapchanges because we use an SSD
[19:29] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: Were they "brand" screens, or just "brand" panels in generic housings?
[19:31] <Azelphur> they are Matrix Neo 1440p monitors
[19:31] <Azelphur> I think the panels are LG, dunno
[19:31] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: I've heard a lot of the "no-brand" screens (with LG panels) go for $350ish now
[19:31] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: even cheaper if you want to risk dead pixels
[19:34] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: mine were £200ish, zero dead pixel check before shipping
[19:34] <Azelphur> all 4 work still, all 4 have no dead pixels
[19:34] <MartijnVdS> oh that's CHEAP :)
[19:35] <Azelphur> indeed
[19:35] <Azelphur> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2012/August/2012-08-07-214518_610x777_scrot.png
[19:36] <popey> did you have to pay VAT when they arrived?
[19:36] <Azelphur> popey: on one of the monitors they charged me £7, the others all got through fine
[19:37] <Azelphur> iirc they wrote $50 commercial sample on the shipping invoice
[19:40] <popey> hah
[19:40] <popey> fraud then okay ;)
[19:40]  * Azelphur shrugs
[19:40] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: Found the seller, he still sells them :)
[19:41] <MartijnVdS> "built-in speakers!"
[19:41] <Azelphur> yea I think he's hiked his prices since I bought them
[19:41] <Azelphur> hi things nobody uses
[19:41] <Azelphur> :P
[19:41] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: http://www.ebay.com/itm/27-Inch-irun-ZT-SH270QHD-2560x1440-WQHD-Quad-HD-Monitor-S-IPS-/140896765552?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item20ce1a0670
[19:41] <Azelphur> that's the same guy, but a different monitor
[19:41] <Azelphur> although it's probably the same panel
[19:42] <Azelphur> and the case looks exactly the same, I think that's just a rebrand
[19:42] <MartijnVdS> the "Matrix Neo" ones are $500
[19:42] <Azelphur> the buttons, stand, everything, are identical to my matrix neos
[19:42] <Azelphur> so that's probably the same monitor, just with a different label on the front
[19:43] <Azelphur> I'm actually looking for a TV - I should see if they do big versions
[19:48] <solarcloud_3scrn> evening ..
[19:49] <neuro> Azelphur: "commercial shipping sample", nice
[19:49] <Azelphur> \o/
[19:50] <neuro> i got two 22" dell monitors shipped to me for work when i was working for Linden Lab
[19:50] <neuro> the receptionist at the SF office put "value: $2000" on them
[19:50] <neuro> each
[19:50] <Azelphur> ouch lol
[19:50] <neuro> i had to pay 90 quid each before they would be let out of hock at stansted
[19:51] <neuro> reclaimed by expenses natch, but still a pain in the arse
[19:51] <Azelphur> yea :p
[19:54] <MartijnVdS> hmm
[19:54] <MartijnVdS> apparently, my ASUS mainboard doesn't do dual-link DVI
[19:55] <MartijnVdS> I'll wait with the new screen until I have a new PC then ;)
[19:55] <solarcloud_3scrn> Just watching 2012 on Linux videio :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Unfx2qCj6Ao
[19:58] <solarcloud_3scrn> I'm on OMG ubuntu at moment... looks good.
[20:04] <Azelphur> just built this for my cousins christmas present, think it came out quite nice for a budget (£500) build (inc windows license) https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvti0fdy8m7axt8/2012-12-14%2020.02.19.jpg?m :D
[20:04] <solarcloud_3scrn> Man I am too emotional tonite ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY_MUB8adEQ
[20:06] <solarcloud_3scrn> Azelphur, Nice is that a alman case ?
[20:06] <solarcloud_3scrn> **Zalman case ??
[20:06] <Azelphur> yes, a Zalman Z11
[20:06] <solarcloud_3scrn> looks good.
[20:06] <solarcloud_3scrn> probably need to let it breathe thou.
[20:07] <solarcloud_3scrn> ave you tried a sharkoon silent fan ?
[20:07] <Azelphur> yea I havn't exactly been benching it like that, I left the wrappers on to keep it nice and it has to be driven quite a long way
[20:07] <Azelphur> using the stock fans that came with the case, for a budget case it actually looks really nice and comes with a bunch of fans
[20:07] <solarcloud_3scrn> it is nice :)
[20:08] <Azelphur> the only thing I don't like about it, is the usb 3 support. It doesn't connect to a standard USB header
[20:08] <Azelphur> instead you are expected to run the cables out the back through a PCI slot and into a USB 3 PCI slot
[20:08] <solarcloud_3scrn> ok,right .. i just use usb 2.0
[20:10] <mgdm>       discovered today that although my laptop can connect to an 11n network, it can't actually send any traffic over it
[20:10] <mgdm> bah
[20:11] <solarcloud_3scrn> G+ is broke again :(
[20:20] <MartijnVdS> solarcloud_3scrn: it is?!
[20:21] <solarcloud_3scrn> working now .. just watching AlanBell https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VlncLIpDxNs#!
[20:23] <ali1234> Azelphur: 5 minutes is not exageration, something is wrong. by the time i connect the map is over
[20:23] <mungbean> ah, that moment when you're rooting your wife's phone and you think you've bricked it...
[20:24] <mungbean> then you restart it again and it comes back to life
[20:31] <Azelphur> ali1234: I've noticed the linux beta has issues with long mapchanges too
[21:51] <directhex> mgdm, intel can't do 11n on linux, because intel are smelly like poop
[21:51] <directhex> note: AP-dependent failure
[21:52] <mgdm> ah, hmmm
[21:52] <mgdm> I just turned it off
[21:52] <mgdm> after a perplexed few minutes
[22:18] <directhex> omg!
[22:18] <directhex> cheap monitor alert!
[22:18] <directhex> Azelphur, this is your kind of deal
[22:18] <Azelphur> directhex: more monitors?
[22:19] <directhex> Azelphur, the dell-made 1440p's, with no compromise at all on features or warranty, for £370
[22:19] <Azelphur> directhex: only twice what I paid for mine ;)
[22:19]  * Azelphur is the master of shopping
[22:19] <directhex> your korean specials?
[22:19] <Azelphur> yep
[22:19] <directhex> hdcp?
[22:19] <Azelphur> dvi only
[22:21] <directhex> right. hence "no compromise at all on features or warranty"
[22:21] <Azelphur> I have a warranty
[22:21] <Azelphur> and it's better than the one on the dell probably, I have 0 pixels
[22:22] <Azelphur> but yea, I compromised on features to knock the price down, I'll only ever use these with my PC, so the other features are totally moot for me :)
[22:22] <directhex> vga, dvi, displayport, hdmi, height adjust stand, 3 year warranty, and no dead pixel guarantee
[22:23] <directhex> and usb3 hub, fwiw
[22:23] <Azelphur> ah, it's a better then
[22:23] <Azelphur> but I still wouldn't pay 2x as much for those features
[22:25] <Azelphur> directhex: I'm even winning at my first big food shop after moving into my flat, 90% of my basket is half price offer xD
[22:26] <ali1234> been there
[22:26] <Azelphur> hehe
[22:27] <ali1234> i hope you enjoy eating weird stuff like peanut butter and spaghetti
[22:27] <Azelphur> ali1234: nah, I got good stuff like orange/apple juice, coke, etc
[22:27] <ali1234> that's not food
[22:28] <Azelphur> suddenly technicalities
[22:28] <ali1234> and stop buying coke, drink tea instead, it's about 100 times cheaper
[22:28] <ali1234> black tea with sugar
[22:28] <Azelphur> yea I don't drink all that much coke, it's nice to have for visitors or the odd occasion, I mostly drink water/juices
[22:28] <ali1234> because it's too hard to keep fresh milk all the time
[22:28] <Azelphur> although there was this one time when I got addicted to pepsi max, haha
[22:29] <Azelphur> I stopped drinking it and had to go through withdrawal symptoms, not even kidding xD
[22:29] <ali1234> yeah i've been there too
[22:31] <directhex> i was spending about a hundred pounds a month on premium colas for a while.
[22:33] <directhex> i ain't kidding. http://twitter.yfrog.com/z/0f1y6pj
[22:34] <Laney> officially started christmas shopping
[22:35] <directhex> ;o
[22:35] <directhex> XMAS GETS EARLIER EVERY YEAR
[22:38] <shauno> epic monkey
[22:48] <daftykins> cor that's a bit of a tip
[23:17] <shauno> I got distracted by the epic monkey, and ended up buying a 51" stuffed toy off ebay :(  how does this happen.
[23:18] <shauno> I just hope it arrives while I'm home, so I don't have to carry it 4km home from the depot
[23:18] <daftykins> :D
[23:37] <dwatkins> shauno: Pinkie Pie or Rainbow Dash?
[23:37] <shauno> it just calls it monkey.  'coffee' coloured.  http://www.ebay.ie/itm/110911008080
[23:38] <daftykins> holy... that's massive
[23:38] <dwatkins> wow, that's one heck of a monkey
[23:38] <daftykins> my puppy would have a fit of excitement seeing that :O
[23:38] <dwatkins> the girl in the picture appears to be having difficulty carrying it
[23:38] <daftykins> stuffing everywhere...
[23:38] <daftykins> she's the delivery girl
[23:38] <daftykins> that's why P&P is free
[23:38] <daftykins> :>
[23:38] <shauno> daftykins: our old dog would have !ohmy'd it :(
[23:39] <dwatkins> hmm, only 3kg
[23:40] <dwatkins> here's an equally epic monkey you cannot buy: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/02/snub-nosed-monkeys/holland-text
[23:40] <dwatkins> also found in China, however
[23:41] <shauno> and the canadian version, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/12/09/toronto-monkey-ikea.html
[23:41] <dwatkins> the coat it's wearing is superb
[23:42] <shauno> indeed
[23:43] <dwatkins> I may have to get me a Timmy if I place an order from ThinkGeek in the new year.
[23:44] <daftykins> heh
[23:44] <shauno> my last monkey got hijacked.  he lives in the office, and they attribute bad luck to it if it goes missing.  so I no longer have a deskmonkey at home
[23:45] <shauno> it also got ransomed last time I turned the wrong PDU off :(
[23:45] <daftykins> XD
[23:45] <dwatkins> an apt punishment
[23:46] <daftykins> i have one of these on my desk: http://www.mooch.org.uk/images/mooch1.jpg
[23:46] <shauno> mine came out of one of those arm-grab machines
[23:47] <dwatkins> I recently aquired a monkey like this: http://www.purebaby.co.uk/jellycat-rollo-monkey.ir?cName=playtime-soft-toys
[23:47] <shauno> my date was very unimpressed.  "yes, under SOP you get the toy.  but it's a monkey, you see?"
[23:47] <dwatkins> It was crashed-out on the side of the bath like it had had a rather heavy night
[23:48] <dwatkins> It has an evil twin, due to a removal truck disaster.
[23:48] <dwatkins> Squished monkey is not happy.
[23:49] <shauno> I use to have a 'flying monkey' from thinkgeek.  very fun, very noisy.  but not very popular
[23:49] <dwatkins> A colleague had the same flying monkey, it got confiscated when it landed on the 'wrong' person's desk (i.e. mine) due to the frequency with which it flew across the office.
[23:49] <daftykins> you thief :(
[23:50] <dwatkins> He never did work out where it was hiding for two months, until it magically appeared on his desk again.
[23:50] <dwatkins> He threw it at me ;)
[23:50] <dwatkins> I decided that consituted a donation.