| MutantTurkey | wohoo scraped a A in my CIS class :-) | 02:59 |
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| ChinnoDog | \o/ | 03:19 |
| jthan | Good work. | 03:22 |
| MutantTurkey | :) | 03:22 |
| * jthan is sitting at a 3.9 | 03:22 | |
| jthan | I'm pretty excited | 03:22 |
| jthan | So many sleepless nights | 03:22 |
| MutantTurkey | nice | 03:26 |
| MutantTurkey | where are you going to school? | 03:26 |
| jthan | University of Colorado Boulder | 03:47 |
| MutantTurkey | nice | 03:57 |
| MutantTurkey | How do I reference a page number without pages? | 03:57 |
| MutantTurkey | do I just not do it? | 03:57 |
| jthan | A page number without pages? | 04:03 |
| MutantTurkey | I mean usually for inline refrences you should put page numbers, I have an article without pages. | 04:06 |
| MutantTurkey | page numbers' | 04:06 |
| MutantTurkey | so do I just not put any numbers, count by paragraphs... idk! | 04:06 |
| jthan | If it's from an online source / database you don't use page numbers anyhow | 04:11 |
| jthan | only print articles | 04:11 |
| MutantTurkey | ah ok! | 04:11 |
| MutantTurkey | windows 2007 + wine is working great! | 04:57 |
| MutantTurkey | especially since loffice lacks good footnotes and references | 04:57 |
| rmg51 | Morning | 10:16 |
| InHisName | Morning rmg51 & ted<tab> and waltman and JonathanD | 12:08 |
| waltman | morning | 12:09 |
| JonathanD | hi InHisName | 12:12 |
| teddy-dbear | Morning peoples | 13:10 |
| InHisName | Hello, teddy-dbear | 14:33 |
| teddy-dbear | o/ | 14:34 |
| MutantTurkey | could we have a class action lawsuit against septa for being age-ist? | 16:12 |
| MutantTurkey | I mean the train tickets are 1 dollar for seniors, and this is a public service | 16:12 |
| MutantTurkey | 1 dollar for regional rail, most of the stuff is free | 16:12 |
| MutantTurkey | I am shelling out 150 bucks a month and i am a student | 16:12 |
| MutantTurkey | old people have a much higher household value than me, surely I deserve $1 tickets | 16:13 |
| JonathanD | MutantTurkey: nope | 16:17 |
| MutantTurkey | why not? | 16:17 |
| JonathanD | Because it's legal. | 16:17 |
| MutantTurkey | right - but why? | 16:17 |
| JonathanD | Just like all other senior discounts, at restaurants, etc. | 16:17 |
| ChinnoDog | Unfortunately the process for changing government processes in this country usually involves protests and refusal to pay the fare rather than law suits. The latter would be a lot less risky though. | 16:17 |
| MutantTurkey | this is a public service | 16:17 |
| MutantTurkey | JonathanD: it's a public service and a 10% discout is different than free | 16:18 |
| JonathanD | I'm not sure it being a public service matters. | 16:18 |
| JonathanD | You could argue that it's "ageist" that you can't collect social security at 20, too. | 16:19 |
| JonathanD | MutantTurkey: that aside, many seniors can't drive, or can't safely drive. | 16:19 |
| MutantTurkey | neither can many teenagers! | 16:20 |
| JonathanD | I'd rather they get free transit than run a stop sign and hit me :P | 16:20 |
| MutantTurkey | i don't understand why they get such a discount though | 16:20 |
| MutantTurkey | its basically free | 16:20 |
| JonathanD | It's intended to provide a service to a class of people on limited income, who may have a particular need of it. | 16:22 |
| MutantTurkey | like college kids? | 16:23 |
| MutantTurkey | thats the thing, old people have more money then young people, but we pay the same as full time working adults | 16:24 |
| JonathanD | If your argument is that it's unfair that seniors get a discount and college kids don't, perhaps you should be asking why you don't get one, not why they do. | 16:24 |
| MutantTurkey | i would prefer they didn't | 16:24 |
| JonathanD | Personally, I think all septa fairs should be lower than they are. | 16:24 |
| MutantTurkey | but yeah maybe I should approach it that way | 16:24 |
| MutantTurkey | esp regional rail... | 16:24 |
| JonathanD | esp regional, yes. | 16:25 |
| MutantTurkey | lower costs = increased ridership = lower road costs and traveling and lower accident rates and lowr everything | 16:25 |
| JonathanD | I'd rather take the train to the city. | 16:25 |
| JonathanD | But not when it's all four of us. | 16:25 |
| JonathanD | Just gets too expensive. | 16:25 |
| MutantTurkey | family pass is like 30 bucks | 16:25 |
| JonathanD | Can you get those at stations? | 16:26 |
| JonathanD | or only online? | 16:26 |
| MutantTurkey | stations I think | 16:27 |
| MutantTurkey | it's like an independence pass | 16:27 |
| MutantTurkey | but you need to have only 2 adults | 16:27 |
| MutantTurkey | its a family independent pass basically | 16:27 |
| ChinnoDog | I agree with MutantTurkey that if the principle is giving lower fares to people with lower incomes that it makes sense to discount it for college kids. I think that there are less discounts for college kids than seniors in general because there is an assumption that they can draw money from their parents. | 16:32 |
| JonathanD | ChinnoDog: thats probably the base reasoning, yes. | 16:34 |
| ChinnoDog | There should be a discount for college kids that are not dependents. | 16:35 |
| ChinnoDog | Of course, that may no longer apply to MutantTurkey | 16:44 |
| MutantTurkey | no there should be for all college kids | 16:46 |
| MutantTurkey | so do we not give discounts from seniors who receive money or housing from their children? | 16:46 |
| MutantTurkey | it would also encourage less students to drive to temple | 16:46 |
| MutantTurkey | I am dependent on my parents but thry don't pay for my septa pass | 16:47 |
| ChinnoDog | If you are a dependent then they pay more than 50% of your expenses | 16:50 |
| ChinnoDog | Just because you decide how to spend it doesn't mean they didn't pay for it | 16:50 |
| pleia2 | MutantTurkey: you realize that money to run septa doesn't just come out of thin air right? it just means that JonathanD pays for your septa pass | 16:59 |
| pleia2 | "it's not fair" isn't a very compelling reason to raise taxes ;) | 17:00 |
| jedijf | the senior age should change based on the increase of life expectancy - in conjunction with it - aarp membership should start later etc | 17:09 |
| jedijf | discounts should start /closer/ to death | 17:10 |
| jedijf | like they keep moving the social security ages - some of you young ones won't be eligible until 80's | 17:11 |
| ChinnoDog | Don't burst my bubble jedijf. I still want to retire by 65 | 17:11 |
| jedijf | is /85/ still even the number | 17:11 |
| jedijf | s/85/65 | 17:12 |
| ChinnoDog | idk :-( | 17:12 |
| jedijf | i thought it jumped to 67 | 17:12 |
| jedijf | who knows | 17:12 |
| jedijf | old is good - means not dead - what other bonuses should you get | 17:13 |
| jedijf | that should be enough | 17:13 |
| MutantTurkey | pleia2: of course I realize that | 17:23 |
| MutantTurkey | then why should we pay for those seniors? | 17:23 |
| MutantTurkey | it raises costs for me! | 17:23 |
| MutantTurkey | jedijf: I doubt I will receive an equal amount of money that I have put into social security | 17:23 |
| pleia2 | oh I see, you're actually saying no one should get a break, not that you should get one | 17:45 |
| ChinnoDog | /buffer 15 | 18:21 |
| ChinnoDog | sigh | 18:21 |
| Samuraialba | Good bacon to all! | 18:49 |
| waltman | Samuraialba: I had candied bacon yesterday! | 18:54 |
| Samuraialba | Nice | 18:55 |
| Samuraialba | I need to get a cisco switch or 3... | 18:55 |
| Samuraialba | Just got a 91% on my Cisco Routing Final | 18:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | nice. | 20:01 |
| InHisName | school final ? | 20:14 |
| Samuraialba | school final | 20:21 |
| Samuraialba | :) | 20:21 |
| InHisName | Way to Ace it, Samuraialba | 20:42 |
| Samuraialba | danke | 20:46 |
| MutantTurkey | Samuraialba: nice job dude | 21:30 |
| Samuraialba | thankies :) | 23:03 |
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