[04:51] <Kilos> morning all
[05:01] <superfly> Morning Kilos
[05:02]  * superfly has a blog post to write
[05:02] <superfly> Later.
[05:02] <Kilos> k fly
[05:13] <Squirm> hi
[05:13] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[05:59]  * superfly is at work now
[06:16] <Kilos> have a good day superfly 
[06:16] <Kilos> Maaz, tell nuvolari WB stranger
[06:16] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell nuvolari on freenode
[06:39] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:39] <Kilos> hi mazal nlsthzn 
[06:45] <mazal> Hmmm , I didn't know this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/228881/why-debian-packages-in-archive-folder-get-deleted-automatically-in-ubuntu
[06:50] <Kilos> good find. i also wondered why some packages downloaded again when i knew i had downloaded them before
[06:50] <Kilos> just zeroed them with gedit
[06:51] <mazal> I also wondered why some files seem to disappear :P
[06:51] <mazal> But must it be zero like in the word zero , or the number 0 ?
[06:55] <Kilos> 0
[06:56] <mazal> Just changed mine as well
[06:56] <Kilos> lol
[06:56] <Kilos> its fine with uncapped peeps
[06:56] <mazal> Don't want it to delete the files
[06:56] <Kilos> the 3g peeps lose out
[06:57] <nlsthzn> morning all
[06:57] <mazal> Morning nlsthzn 
[06:57] <nlsthzn> how are you mazal ?
[06:57] <mazal> Good thanx and you ?
[06:57] <Kilos> neelsie
[06:58] <nlsthzn> oh I am fine... got to get off my backside, day getting shorter :p
[06:58] <nlsthzn> hiya uncle Kilos 
[07:01] <Kilos> Maaz, seen Wraz 
[07:01] <Maaz> Kilos: Wraz was last seen 2 days, 8 hours, 34 minutes and 13 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-12-11 14:27:27 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2012-12-12 04:39:32 PST
[07:01] <Kilos> aw i missed him again
[07:02] <Kilos> what timeline is PST
[07:03] <Kilos> Maaz, define PST
[07:03] <Maaz> Kilos: PST n 1: standard time in the 8th time zone west of Greenwich, reckoned at the 120th meridian west; used in far western states of the United States [syn: {Pacific Time}, {Pacific Standard Time}, {PST}], PST Pacific Standard Time [-0800] (TZ, PDT, USA)
[07:04] <Kilos> ah another yank
[07:08]  * Squirm looks around
[07:08] <Kilos> hehe
[07:10] <superfly> Yeah, I have to say I don't worry much about downloading anymore
[07:10] <Kilos> lekker hey
[07:11] <mazal> Biggest problem for me is the time it takes
[07:17] <mazal> Ok guys I'm off to go to PTA
[07:17] <mazal> Have a great day
[07:18] <nlsthzn> oh yes now I remember why I rage quited windows a few weeks ago... it is a PITA to register when the auto one doens't want to and you have to phone in and then you realize today is Friday (Sunday UAE)... and you can
[07:18] <nlsthzn> *can't
[07:20] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[07:20] <jrgns> morning Kilos
[07:20] <Kilos> ai nlsthzn 
[07:21] <nlsthzn> lol... not so bad... I can wait
[07:21] <nlsthzn> I mean... I may wait... just spent two days setting up this system and installing stuff... not in the mood to do it again (so soon)
[07:44] <Kilos> hi Tonberry 
[07:45] <Symmetria> heh as a matter of interest
[07:45] <Symmetria> http://146.182.191.35/gengraph.php <[07:48] <Kilos> hi flody20183 
[07:48] <flody20183> hi
[07:48] <Kilos> welcome to ubunt-za
[07:48] <flody20183> thx
[07:48] <Kilos> oh its tim
[07:48] <Kilos> you our tim or another one
[07:49] <flody20183> ? tim from the list ?
[07:49] <flody20183> if so then yes
[07:49] <Kilos> oh not the one from here. hehe ok welcome
[07:50] <Kilos> first time here flody20183 ?
[07:50] <flody20183> yip, spotted the irc link on your early warning post so thought I would take a look
[07:51] <Kilos> ah good. nice to have you here. lots of the list guys never get here
[07:53] <Kilos> flody20183, tell us a bit about yourself
[07:54] <Squirm> Symmetria: so I woke up this morning and told myself I'm not going to have coffee for 3 days as a test
[07:54] <Squirm> well..
[07:54]  * Squirm sips his coffee
[07:55] <flody20183> hmm. in a nutshell I'm a JHB based developer / senior technical support person for an ISP. Main focus is perl, php and ruby/rails
[07:55] <Kilos> hehe Squirm 
[07:55] <Kilos> great flody20183 what ISP if i may ask
[07:55] <flody20183> Internext
[07:56] <flody20183> Based in Randburg
[07:56] <Vince-0> Haai
[07:56] <Squirm> hello flody20183, Vince-0 
[07:56] <Vince-0> Friday whoot
[07:57] <Kilos> there are a few guys from here in your area flody20183 
[07:57] <Squirm> today is my last day at work till the 7th :)
[07:57] <Kilos> yo Vince-0 
[07:57] <Kilos> hehe Squirm you gonna get back inna worse state
[07:57] <Kilos> nice having school hols hey
[07:58] <Squirm> school broke up on the 1st
[07:58] <Squirm> but it's still better than most :)
[07:59] <Kilos> yeah
[07:59]  * Squirm needs faster internets
[07:59] <Squirm> my TED talk keeps buffering
[07:59] <Kilos> only one that doesnt is Symmetria 
[08:00] <Squirm> well
[08:00] <Squirm> come the 7th of January
[08:00] <Squirm> we'll have a 16mbit line
[08:00] <Squirm> 4*4mbit bonded
[08:01] <Symmetria> hrm
[08:01] <Symmetria> http://146.182.191.35/gengraph.php try that kilos
[08:01] <Symmetria> I changed it, to do a true per second
[08:01] <Symmetria> with no averaging 
[08:01] <Symmetria> so it uses the raw 43k+ data points
[08:02] <Kilos> eek looks like a prone porcupine
[08:02]  * Squirm eyes Symmetria 
[08:02] <Vince-0> nice graph! what does it show
[08:03] <Symmetria> heh the number of prefix's being withdrawn every second outta the bgp table
[08:04] <Vince-0> aah
[08:04] <Vince-0> ISP speak
[08:04] <Symmetria> heh, basically just how much churn there is in the bgp table
[08:05] <Vince-0> uh, change in routing?
[08:05] <Kilos> Symmetria, do some work for telkom too
[08:05] <Kilos> speed them up some
[08:05] <Symmetria> kilos not possible :p
[08:05] <Kilos> especially the 3g side
[08:05] <Kilos> aw
[08:06] <Symmetria> vince yeah its basically changes in the routing table
[08:06] <Symmetria> if you wanna see TOTAL changes in the routing table
[08:06] <Symmetria> *hrm*
[08:07] <Kilos> hi timkeller 
[08:08] <Symmetria> heh this takes a while to generate :p
[08:13] <inetpro> good morning
[08:13] <inetpro> Kilos: thanks for that mail
[08:13] <Kilos> hiya inetpro anytime
[08:13] <Kilos> you sposed to remind me
[08:13] <inetpro> :-)
[08:19] <Symmetria> Retrieving per second BGP change stats for period Thu Dec 13 22:18:15 2012 to Thu Dec 13 22:18:15 2012 (total 43200 data queries)
[08:19] <Symmetria> Starting data query for peer 193.27.64.39....
[08:19] <Symmetria> Data query for peer 193.27.64.39 completed in 18 seconds
[08:19] <Symmetria> heh
[08:19] <Symmetria> thats not bad
[08:19] <Symmetria> http://146.182.191.35/total.php
[08:20] <Symmetria> 2400 queries a second
[08:50] <magespawn> morning all
[09:07] <Kilos> hey magespawn 
[09:10] <jrgns> Hi spawn
[09:12] <Kilos> hi DigiGram 
[09:12] <DigiGram> hi Kilos
[09:18] <Squirm> http://dailychillout.net/do-you-know-how-old-is-she/
[09:19] <Squirm> slightly off topic
[09:19] <Squirm> :P
[09:21] <magespawn> hi jrgns
[11:23] <nuvolari> o/ aloha
[11:23] <Maaz> nuvolari: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell nuvolari WB stranger" 5 hours, 6 minutes and 56 seconds ago
[11:23] <nuvolari> Kilos: middag oom :>
[11:23] <nuvolari> oh? I've been gone?
[11:24] <Squirm> hello nuvolari 
[11:24] <Trixar_za> Hi nuvolari
[11:25] <nuvolari> hello Squirm, Trixar_za 
[11:27] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[11:27] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[11:27] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[12:25] <Symmetria> hrm
[12:25] <Symmetria> I wonder if Mandela is still alive
[12:25]  * Symmetria has doubts
[12:32] <Squirm> 2 hours of work
[12:32] <Squirm> then a month holiday
[12:32] <Squirm> meh, 3 weeks
[13:18] <Kilos> hey all you friends of google where do i get a link to actually see what the code in the mbr should be?
[13:19] <Kilos> ive found a hex sector 0 editor but havent a clue what to put in sector 0
[13:23] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[13:23] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[13:32] <Kilos> ah found one but its for winsucks
[13:32] <Kilos> A8h E1h B9h D2h 00h 7Eh 00h 00h 00h 00h 00h 00h
[13:36] <Kilos> google linux mbr boot code
[13:37] <Kilos>  Maaz  google linux mbr boot code
[13:37] <Maaz> Kilos: "UNIX / Linux: Copy Master Boot Record (MBR)" http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-copy-mbr/ :: "assembly - Write MBR Code - Stack Overflow" http://stackoverflow.com/questions/568359/write-mbr-code :: "GRUB Boot Manager MBR/Boot Sector" http://thestarman.pcministry.com/asm/mbr/GRUB.htm :: "Master boot record - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
[13:37] <Maaz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record :: "Master Boot Record - ArchWiki" https://wiki.archlinux…
[13:56] <Kilos> looking at this tool http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBRwizard
[13:57] <Kilos> .exe
[13:57] <Kilos> sigh
[13:59] <tumbleweed> Kilos: have you seen the mbr package?
[13:59] <tumbleweed> Maaz: apt show mbr
[13:59] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.: The MBR is used in booting operating systems from the hard disk. It runs first, then transfers control to the operating system's loader which transfers control to the kernel.
[13:59] <Kilos> nope tumbleweed 
[13:59] <tumbleweed> but most of thet ime, we have grub in the mbr
[14:00] <Kilos> can one apt-get it?
[14:00] <tumbleweed> yes
[14:00] <tumbleweed> did you do anything special to not have grub in the mbr?
[14:00] <Kilos> i got no mbr so that needs fixing first
[14:00] <tumbleweed> no
[14:00] <tumbleweed> we normally install grub as the mbr
[14:01] <Kilos> drive shows 2 TB unallocated but unable to write to it at all
[14:01] <Kilos> no partition tools work
[14:01] <tumbleweed> that's got nothing to do with MBRs
[14:01] <tumbleweed> this is a new 2TB disk?
[14:01] <Kilos> no old one that crashed when trying to install ubuntu ver and over
[14:02] <tumbleweed> how are you accessing it now? from a live CD?
[14:02] <Kilos> then found its the HD204UI firmware that marks those blocks as bad when other software tries to get in
[14:02] <Kilos> yip from UBCD
[14:02] <Kilos> bios sees it fine
[14:03] <tumbleweed> can you pastebin /proc/partitions?
[14:03] <Kilos> tried installing or parting with everything i got
[14:03] <Kilos> how will i fing that?
[14:03] <Kilos> find
[14:04] <Kilos> if i use it as second drive pc hangs before booting
[14:04] <Kilos> lemme try 12.04 live again
[14:10] <Kilos> 3rd attempt 12.04 seems to be booting
[14:11] <Kilos> first said no OS insert system disk twice
[14:11] <Kilos> grrr
[14:12] <Kilos> but that started the prob tumbleweed , it only accepted win7 once then nothing after that again
[14:12] <Kilos> 12.04 struggling to get gowing
[14:22] <Kilos> tumbleweed, http://slexy.org/view/s2dmxnuBzW
[14:28] <Kilos> and gedit popped up a message with that saying it had changed
[14:30] <Kilos> oh just twigged, you meant the mbr package in the repos?
[14:30] <tumbleweed> Kilos: yes
[14:31] <tumbleweed> Kilos: ok, doesn't look like it can see a partition table on there at all
[14:31] <tumbleweed> did you have anything of any value on that disk?
[14:31] <Kilos> the drive wont letanything write to it
[14:31] <Kilos> nope its one of ians hear to try be repaired
[14:31] <tumbleweed> maybe the drive is totally dead?
[14:32] <tumbleweed> that's my bet
[14:32] <Kilos> it worked on 7 and when i tried 12.04 a few times then it crashed
[14:32] <tumbleweed> run a full SMART test on it?
[14:32] <tumbleweed> (smartmontools package)
[14:33] <Kilos> must i mount it first before installing smartmontools
[14:34] <tumbleweed> no
[14:34] <Kilos> sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt?
[14:34] <Kilos> oh just install from live cd?
[14:34] <tumbleweed> yeah, you can install packages while you are using the live CD
[14:34] <tumbleweed> (until you run out of RAM)
[14:35] <Kilos> eek
[14:35] <Kilos> ok i gotta take modem there
[14:35] <Kilos> wbb
[14:37] <superfly> magespawn: ping
[14:54] <magespawn> hey superfly
[14:57] <superfly> magespawn: we're heading up to KZN for a holiday/friend's wedding, and thought it might be nice to head up your way - know anywhere a family of 4 can spend a night or two for relatively little?
[15:00] <magespawn> quite a few places in hluhluwe. both in and out of town
[15:01] <magespawn> let me get some info for you
[15:01] <magespawn> brb
[15:01] <superfly> magespawn: no rush, it'll be in May/June next year
[15:26] <Symmetria>  5:25PM  up 1569 days,  7:44, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
[15:26] <Symmetria> heh
[15:26] <Symmetria> holy crap
[15:27]  * Symmetria wonders if that box would ever boot again if it was powered off
[15:33] <magespawn> okay superfly
[15:33] <magespawn> Symmetria: only one way to tell
[15:38] <magespawn> later all on my way
[15:38] <Kilos> go safe magespawn 
[15:44] <Cantide> see ya magespawn 
[15:44] <Cantide> hi Kilos :)
[15:44] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[15:44] <Cantide> Kilos, ubuntu meet at 17:30 on Monday? Aren't they usually later... like 19:00 usually?
[15:45] <Kilos> eek
[15:45] <Kilos> sorry
[15:47] <Cantide> i don't mind 17:30 :)
[15:47] <Kilos> woke you up at least so you could wake me up
[15:47] <Kilos> lol
[15:47] <Cantide> just asking because i thought it was a little unusual
[15:47] <Cantide> besides, Monday is a holiday
[15:47] <Cantide> so the time shouldn't be a problem :)
[15:47] <Kilos> eveyone else is on their way home at that time
[15:47] <Kilos> oh
[15:48] <Kilos> replied to that mail. hope it worked
[15:48] <Kilos> dunno if i can reply to my own mail
[15:48] <Cantide> lol
[15:48] <Cantide> i haven't gotten one yet..
[15:49] <Kilos> it came to me
[15:49] <Kilos> is that wrong
[15:50]  * Kilos cries
[15:50] <Kilos> from me to me
[15:50] <Cantide> ?
[15:50] <Cantide> lol
[15:50] <Cantide> :D
[15:52] <Kilos> more eeek
[15:52] <Kilos> no capitals there
[15:52] <Kilos> typing here is so much easier. dont need to find the shift key
[15:53] <Kilos> Cantide, you got it now
[15:54] <Cantide> yeah :)
[15:54] <Cantide> thanks~
[16:18]  * nuvolari peeks in
[16:18] <nuvolari> hello Cantide, oom Kilos 
[16:18] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[16:18] <nuvolari> gaan dit goed oom?
[16:18] <Cantide> hi nuvolari :)
[16:18] <nuvolari> skies, ek het vroër kom inloer en toe verdwyn ek weer :(
[16:20] <Kilos> lol
[16:20] <Kilos> maak net seker dat jy nie maandag of dinsdag verdwyn nie seun
[16:28] <smile> hi :D
[16:29] <smile> Maaz: It's cold outside. Where can I find a warm jacket? :p
[16:29] <Maaz> smile: If you say so
[16:29] <Kilos> hi smile 
[16:29] <smile> hi Kilos :D
[16:45] <inetpro> eish Kilos
[16:45]  * inetpro didn't even see the error 
[16:46] <Kilos> wat nou inetpro 
[16:46] <Kilos> lol ya me too
[16:46] <inetpro> jou mail 17:30
[16:46] <inetpro> ai
[16:47] <Kilos> but i changed it now. you got that one too?
[16:55] <Kilos> at least now everyone knows im only human
[16:55] <Kilos> the list guys i mean
[16:55] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^
[16:56] <smile> inetpro: hi :D
[16:56] <smile> :)
[16:56] <smile> my exam today went great! it was english ;)
[16:56] <Kilos> hehe
[17:00] <charl_> good evening all
[17:03] <smile> charl_: good evening :)
[17:04] <smile> Kilos: the practice here helped me to finish that exam :P
[17:04] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[17:04] <Kilos> im glad smile 
[17:04] <smile> how did your day go Kilos ? :p
[17:05] <charl_> hi smile !
[17:05] <charl_> smile: how did the exams go?
[17:05] <smile> very good :P
[17:06] <smile> I'm sure I will have more than 50% :p
[17:06] <charl_> nice
[17:06] <charl_> well done
[17:06] <Kilos> quiet smile 
[17:06] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[17:06] <charl_> how's it going
[17:07] <Kilos> quiet charl_ 
[17:07] <charl_> ah so
[17:07] <Kilos> good otherwise ty and you ?
[17:07] <smile> thanks charl_ :p
[17:08] <smile> Kilos: nothing really important happened? :p
[17:08] <Kilos> where smile ?
[17:09] <smile> Kilos: in your life today :p
[17:09] <Kilos> no
[18:18] <Kilos> night all sleep tight
[19:21] <smile> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZQL22xOmUM :)
[19:32] <smile> byeeee! :)
[20:19] <charl_> hi psydroid 
[20:19] <charl_> how's it going
[20:21] <psydroid> hi charl_
[20:21] <psydroid> I'm doing well, what about you?
[20:24] <charl_> good good
[20:24] <charl_> when you moving to poland?
[20:24] <psydroid> after the holidays probably
[20:24] <charl_> ah nice
[20:25] <charl_> i'm off, ciao all