[00:01] <Noskcaj_cbne> can someone please repost and responce to the question from my standard account (Noskcaj)
[00:04] <Riddell> 23:18 < Riddell> Noskcaj: it only gets released if it's tested so someone will have
[00:04] <Riddell> 23:18 < Riddell> in general I'd be all for dropping it but others have the opinion of keep it while it gets tested
[00:07] <Noskcaj_cbne> riddell: i'm not entirely sure why kubuntu ppc is supported, it would have at most 2 users worldwide. ubuntu ppc is only still alive because canonical says it must stay, lubuntu ppc is here because it runs on anything
[00:30] <jono_> Noskcaj_cbne, we maintain PPC for Ubuntu out of community requests, not because Canonical wants it
[00:32] <Noskcaj_cbne> jono_: ok, but how many people  actually need a separate kubuntu cd, you can install it from any other *buntu based os
[00:32] <jono_> Noskcaj_cbne, right
[00:32] <jono_> I don't see your point?
[00:33] <Noskcaj_cbne> jono_: it is a waste of developer time and gets tested around once per cycle so i find it slightly pointless to still have a kubuntu ppc iso
[00:34] <jono_> Noskcaj_cbne, I agree
[00:34] <jono_> afaik it is a community project
[00:34] <jono_> Canonical doesn't really invest much time in it other than release management
[00:35] <Noskcaj_cbne> jono_: thought so
[02:06] <valorie> nice to see that link about kubuntu in kindergarten classrooms, instead of guns
[02:06] <sreich> lol
[03:15] <ronnoc> very true, valorie!
[05:48] <ScottK> Noskcaj: last cycle we didn't release it because it didn't get tested.  I expect it will be the same this cycle.  In the meantime, it takes approximately no developer time to keep it there.
[11:28] <yofel_> kubotu: newversion amarok 2.6.90
[11:28] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1090689
[12:37] <Quintasan> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
[12:37] <Quintasan> GOT IMX RUNNING
[13:09] <Quintasan> great
[13:09] <Quintasan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/+bug/967091
[13:10] <Quintasan> somehow got reintroduced
[13:10] <Quintasan> why flash won't die
[13:19] <Quintasan> Riddell: ping
[13:24] <Quintasan> yofel_: ping
[13:24] <yofel_> hm?
[13:24] <Quintasan> yofel_: are there any people subscribed to kubuntu-devel that might ruin our business cards design poll if I post the link there?
[13:25] <Quintasan> I accidentally the whole previous poll
[13:25] <yofel> I have no idea who's subscribed to that
[13:26] <Quintasan> hmm,
[13:26] <Quintasan> I REALLY don't like the idea of going trough the list of 54 members and sending them emails via lp
[13:26] <yofel> What you could've done is send a mail to ~kubuntu-members on Launchpad. As there's no ML that would've been sent to all
[13:26] <Quintasan> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members
[13:26] <Quintasan> >Contact this team's admins
[13:26] <yofel> hm
[13:27] <Quintasan> or  >kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[13:27] <Quintasan> :P
[13:27] <yofel> bah, yeah -.-
[13:27] <yofel> just saw it too
[13:27] <yofel> not that this would even work as IIRC our ML is subscribers-only
[13:29] <Quintasan> hmm
[13:47] <Riddell> Quintasan: hi
[13:47] <Quintasan> Riddell: Think I can post the poll link to kubuntu-devel?
[13:47] <Quintasan> as I said before I accidentally the whole previous poll
[13:49] <Riddell> Quintasan: yeah should be fine
[13:50] <Riddell> add a caveat that kubuntu council takes final decision
[13:55] <shadeslayer> isn't it a bit pointless then :P
[13:55] <shadeslayer> just ask KC to make the decision
[13:56] <Riddell> well that takes organisation, hopefully the masses will show wisdom and we'll all be happy with it
[13:58] <Quintasan> Riddell: Should I close the poll in a week?
[13:58] <Quintasan> or three days should be fine
[13:58] <Quintasan> ?
[13:59] <Quintasan> nvm, will close it next Saturday so people don't to have to rush
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:23] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: I exported the SVG's to PNG's so people can view stuff in their browsers
[14:23] <shadeslayer> svg's have been moved to cards/src
[17:42] <shadeslayer> uploading amarok for raring :)
[17:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yourarock
[17:43] <Riddell> hmm, that doesn't really work
[17:43] <shadeslayer> I'm a rock?
[17:43] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:43] <shadeslayer> nooooo
[17:43] <Riddell> you rok for uploading amarok
[17:44] <Riddell> maybe that works better
[17:47] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:33] <shadeslayer> amarok for precise uploaded to staging : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages
[18:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: for precise?
[18:43] <Riddell> what happened to quantal?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> errm
[18:43] <shadeslayer> Quantal
[18:43] <shadeslayer> not precise
[18:44] <Riddell> oh good :)
[18:44] <shadeslayer> yeah
[18:44] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:08] <Riddell> agateau: bug 1090779 might be your kindae thing to comment on
[19:26] <shadeslayer> "Please convince upstream KDE to use it by default"
[19:29] <yofel> uhm... I would like some arguments why one should stick to kickoff rather
[19:30] <shadeslayer> I don't see why we should have any kickoffs, just use krunner :P
[19:30] <Riddell> I'd be all for using homerun
[19:31] <Riddell> but when I brought it up at UDS nobody was too keen on it
[19:32]  * yofel wonders why plasma freeze for a few seconds when he disables/enables desktop effects o.O
[19:32] <yofel> *freezes
[19:39] <yofel> and now it doesn't want to start anymore - instead crashes somewhere in KPythonPluginFactory http://paste.kde.org/626060
[20:11] <esing> Hello
[20:11] <esing> Has someone experience with pykde4
[20:15] <Riddell> yofel: I've not had that, makes me scared to dist-upgrade now
[20:15] <Riddell> esing: some of us do, ask away
[20:16] <yofel> "fixed" by removing plasmacon
[20:16] <Riddell> what's plasmacon?
[20:16] <yofel> widget that embeds the konsole kpart
[20:16] <esing> Can I make global hotkey with pykde4? 
[20:16] <yofel> do we have a python widget in the archive?
[20:23] <Riddell> yofel: mm I don't actually know
[20:23] <Riddell> esing: I should think so, same as in a C++ KDE app
[20:26] <Riddell> esing: this one? http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKGlobalAccel.html
[20:27] <esing> Riddell: Oh great; My purpose is to perform different actions when hotkeys are pressed. E.g. pressing F2 performs a gui macro. And doubleclicking F2 perform yet another gui macro. And if F2 is pressed longer than 1500ms then another action is programmable. Since it is capable of global hotkeys latter examples should be easily programmable I guess
[23:12] <Quintasan> christ
[23:13] <Quintasan> whenever I want to write a bigger script/app or something it turns out it's not I don't know the language but something else
[23:14] <Quintasan> I just finished a script which parses http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/u/quintasan.html for workitems marked as Todo and puts those in blueprint : task format
[23:14] <Quintasan> I had to learn selectors first
[23:14] <Quintasan> duh
[23:14] <Riddell> what are selectors?
[23:14] <Quintasan> CSS stuff
[23:15] <Quintasan> say you have quite a few <p> in your html document
[23:15] <Quintasan> but there is one that is <p id="important">
[23:16] <Quintasan> with selectors you can say - give me all p's that have id "important"
[23:16] <yofel> in what language?
[23:16] <Quintasan> yofel: the script itself is in ruby
[23:18] <Riddell> isn't that DOM?
[23:19] <Riddell> I'm yet to learn DOM, along with a bunch of other weby things I failed to realise were important like javascript
[23:19] <Daskreech> effectively
[23:19] <Riddell> I'm sure there should only be one id="important", it's class= that can have lots of the same value
[23:21] <Quintasan> Riddell: maybe DOM *shrug*
[23:21] <Daskreech> Riddell: You are also correct
[23:21] <Quintasan> now I feel kind of lost
[23:21] <Quintasan> not sure what I want to learn now
[23:23] <Riddell> ah, student life was fun :)
[23:26] <Quintasan> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/626114
[23:26] <Quintasan> if you are feeling productive you might use that to import stuff to your $TODO
[23:26] <Quintasan> :P
[23:26] <Quintasan> That's what I'm planning at least
[23:27] <Quintasan> I think I'll stick with Java at uni and brush up my html + js + css magics
[23:27] <Quintasan> and learn DOM while I'm at it
[23:27]  * yofel had some fun trying to do XML parsing in java using DOM
[23:28] <yofel> 1 GiB or RAM later I decided to go with JAXB instead...
[23:28] <Quintasan> lol
[23:35] <Riddell> yofel: what's jaxb?
[23:36] <yofel> Java Architecture for XML Binding - XML parsing creating java objects by first generating classes from a XML Schema