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Linusnewbhi does anyone know why my usb broadband modem not works in networkmanager? :)00:21
Linusnewbno one?00:24
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phoenix_firebrdyofel:  which package contains the  plasma taskmanager widget?01:35
FloodBotK1!netsplit01:38
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ctwHi -- I just did a dist-upgrade and am getting the following error message: "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.5.0-21-generic (x86_64)"02:07
ctwthe install doesn't finish because of it02:07
ctwand I'm worried about rebooting given that it's a kernel issue02:07
ctwdoes anyone here have an idea how to fix this?02:07
phoenix_firebrdctw: hi02:08
stiltzkinHey guys. Anyone good with fglrx? Apparently something broke and now I have no GUI, my Kubuntu box only boots to a terminal.02:11
stiltzkinI'll grab some pastes in a second if someone knows what I'm talking about02:13
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: hi02:16
stiltzkinHeya02:24
stiltzkinHere's a paste of what I think the relevant portion in kern.log is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441008/02:24
stiltzkinJust for completeness, uname -a: Linux luna 3.5.0-18-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 19 10:26:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux02:25
stiltzkinAny help appreciated.02:27
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phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: from where did you install the driver?02:36
stiltzkinUsing jockey, the normal way02:36
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: could you paste the xorg.0.log02:36
stiltzkinThis did not start happening after I installed the driver (this installation is quite old), I believe it started after a kernel update or something02:37
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: ok, to see whats wrong, i have to see the xorg.0.log file02:37
stiltzkinSure, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441030/02:38
stiltzkinLooks like a segfault at the end there02:38
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: did you check if this is happening only when you cold boot your system?02:40
stiltzkinYes, it happens on reboots as well02:40
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: can you check if there is a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/ ?02:41
stiltzkinYes, there is...would you like that as well?02:43
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: no02:43
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: did you install any drivers from the website directly before?02:44
stiltzkinnope, only the regular ATI driver from the jockey installer02:44
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: what is your graphics card model\02:45
stiltzkinlspci says: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650]02:46
OerHeksstiltzkin, sounds like you installed an ATI driver manually ?02:48
stiltzkinWell if "manually" means clicking "install driver" in the Additional Drivers dialog, then I suppose, yes02:50
stiltzkinit's certainly not nouveau02:50
stiltzkinI think I may just need to reinstall at this point...something broke midway through an upgrade and this is probably just the result I have to deal with.02:51
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: ya try reinstalling the driver02:52
stiltzkinno I mean the whole operating system, I don't think I can just reinstall the driver02:52
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: why not?02:53
SIR_Tacostiltzkin: the 4xxx series have been moved to legacy by AMD/ATI, the newest AMD/ATI Catalyst driver you can install is 12.602:53
stiltzkincan I do that with just cli?02:53
stiltzkinI tried "jockey-text" but it shows nothing available now02:53
SIR_Tacostiltzkin: 64-bit of or 32-bit?02:55
stiltzkin6402:55
SIR_Tacostiltzkin: you'll need the following files:  fglrx_8.980-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  fglrx-amdcccle_8.980-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb02:58
SIR_Tacoif anyone knows how to force install those instead of the current, it would help02:58
stiltzkinI'm wgetting the installation package manually, maybe this will work02:58
stiltzkinah ok let me try those first, thanks02:58
stiltzkinThey conflict with a virtual package which I can't remove, "fglrx-control"03:00
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: sudo dpkg -i --force <package name>03:01
stiltzkinhmmmmm using the --force option has killed my whole system before03:01
stiltzkinI mean granted it's pretty dead now but still lol03:01
stiltzkintrying --reinstall first03:03
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: if reinstall doesnt help , uninstall the driver and force install the drivers that SIR_Taco told03:04
SIR_Tacophoenix_firebrd: forgot about that one03:04
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: i couldn't find anything fglrx-control, it must be inside the fglrx package03:06
SIR_Tacophoenix_firebrd: it's in the amdccle package if I remember correctly03:08
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: right, so it must be uninstalled03:09
SIR_Tacofgrlx-amdccle package I should say03:09
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: ya03:09
SIR_Tacounfortunately the 2xxx, 3xxx and 4xxx series AMD/ATI cards have been depreciated by AMD/ATI. 12.6 Catalyst will be the last driver update (with the exception of security updates)03:13
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: when was this 4 series released?03:15
SIR_Tacophoenix_firebrd: I think the 4xxx series started around 2008-ish03:17
SIR_Tacobut the laptop I bought around then had a HD 320003:18
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: in that case I wonder why they marked it as a legacy03:19
SIR_Tacophoenix_firebrd: That's a good question... I read a release report a while back and it said something along the lines of: "the now legacy cards have been optimized to their full potential. The newer drivers offer no new features/benifits"03:21
SIR_Tacowhich is all fine and dandy.... until a kernel change breaks it03:21
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: right03:21
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: if not for gaming, the open drivers are fine now03:23
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stiltzkinHey, I'm back, sorry about that...03:24
stiltzkinReinstalling seems to have worked, it did the dkms stuff03:24
stiltzkinlet me try rebooting now03:24
SIR_Tacophoenix_firebrd: yea, the radeon drivers are fine for my laptop, don't do much other than work on it anyway03:25
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: The only thing that is stoping me from using the open driver is the vdpau acceleration for the flash videos03:27
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: for the hd videos03:27
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: mine is a p4 processor so the gp has to compensate for it03:28
stiltzkinHm. Still fails. Let's try this again. Maybe I should remove all of these fglrx packages and just try using the .zip from AMD's website?03:28
SIR_Tacophoenix_firebrd: haven't used the vdpau drivers, never had a problem.03:29
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: remove all fglrx packages and try install the package that SIR_Taco told you03:29
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: in that case you must be using a new processor03:29
stiltzkindoing apt-get purge fglrx*03:31
SIR_Tacophoenix_firebrd: it's an AMD Phenom II X403:32
phoenix_firebrdSIR_Taco: it should handle the flash videos nicely, my cpu jumps to 70% when seeing flah videos without vdpau03:35
stiltzkinI'm looking for the .debs03:36
stiltzkinoh, you mean build these from the installer03:37
stiltzkinBuilding the .debs failed, gonna try just using the normal installer03:40
jay__good morning people from scotland03:40
stiltzkinNope, building the driver failed. Great.03:41
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: get the drivers from the repository03:43
stiltzkinhow? I googled for those package names and can't find them anywhere03:44
stiltzkinI don't think the version matches the fglrx package in the repos either03:44
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI03:45
stiltzkinah ok thanks03:45
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: read this sub topic 3. Installing upstream drivers directly from AMD's website03:45
SIR_Tacojust remember 12.6 is it03:46
stiltzkinshould I try building for "Ubuntu/precise" even though I'm really running "Ubuntu/quantal"03:48
SIR_Tacostiltzkin: it *should* still work03:48
stiltzkinwell this is what I just did, it doesn't :(03:48
SIR_Tacostiltzkin: do you get errors?03:49
stiltzkinYeah, hang on I'll put up a paste03:49
stiltzkinhang on, the output isn't saving to a file properly03:53
stiltzkinOK here's the full output. This is with the latest version from AMD's website (which is 8.97 I believe): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441102/03:55
stiltzkinI see I'm missing dependencies, give me a sec03:58
SIR_Tacostiltzkin: possibly try build-dep for fgrlx?03:58
stiltzkinsee the thing is, if I try to do "apt-get install debhelper dh-modaliases execstack" all of those packages are already installed and up to date03:59
SIR_Tacostiltzkin:  sudo apt-get build-dep fglrx (then try the manual way)04:01
stiltzkinOK.04:01
stiltzkinSame errors :/04:03
stiltzkinMaybe it's just time to back up my data and start fresh. Kinda sucks because I'll have to set up LVM and some configuration stuff again, but...this is just annoying at this point haha. I appreciate the help with it though.04:05
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: the deps are installed?04:06
stiltzkinyeah04:06
stiltzkinand it still fails04:06
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: what is the version of the installed debhelper?04:06
stiltzkinlooks like...9.20120608ubuntu104:07
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: have you installed the build-essentials package?04:13
stiltzkinyup04:13
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: are you installing the driver from amd's website04:14
stiltzkinyep, downloaded the zip manually04:14
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: do you like to try the open drivers?04:15
stiltzkinnope, I have to have AMD's drivers :/04:16
stiltzkinthat's why I'm saying I'll probably need to reinstall04:16
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: it seems a reinstall may not do good, you can try your luck04:16
stiltzkinI mean it's worked fine for me in the past04:17
stiltzkinthe only reason it's broken is because the upgrade utility just decided to crash on me in the middle of an upgrade04:17
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: its the kernel update , may be. do you have the old kernel still04:17
stiltzkinyeah, and I've tried booting the older kernels, they don't help :/04:17
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: how are you compiling the source from the website04:20
stiltzkinwell I've tried both the regular way (just running the .run installer) and with --buildpkg04:21
phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: good luck with your reinstall04:23
stiltzkinhahaha thanks, and I really do appreciate the help...disappointing I know04:24
stiltzkinwon't be the first time :)04:24
thelionroarsif someone has a default (or close enough) version of /etc/default/grub, would they be willing to pastebin it for me? I'm unable to update grub atm and can't work out why its not parsing04:26
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phoenix_firebrdstiltzkin: :)04:28
phoenix_firebrdthelionroars: what do you mean b default?04:29
thelionroarsas in you haven't done any self-configuration of it04:29
thelionroarsI think otherwise it is fairly standard04:29
phoenix_firebrdthelionroars: http://paste.kde.org/625610/04:41
thelionroarsthanks, someone on #grub was able to locate the problem though04:42
thelionroarsI had changed from ASCII to UTF-804:43
phoenix_firebrdthelionroars: ok05:00
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neha_I can't enable monitor mode on my BCM43XX wifi card08:00
neha_I read somewhere that Broadcom does not support monitor mode08:01
neha_any workaround?08:01
erdemhey  turk  varmı  =)))08:22
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SteigeJotest12:29
monkeyjuicetest complete12:29
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ironfroggyI have a machine that locked up and was hard rebooted. now, we can't login. failsafe login just flickers and goes back to the KDM login.14:12
ironfroggyI don't know how to get to any state that I can diagnose this. any suggestions?14:12
rorkironfroggy: try renaming your ~/.kde directory, this will set back kde to the defaults which might enable you to login again. This will also move some settings/data which you can retrieve from the renamed directory later14:22
BluesKajHowdy all14:22
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foormeahello! any suggestions to stream videos with a tablet? i've got movie files on a server, i've got a tablet, i wanna watch movies on the tablet withotu copying the movie files beforehand14:24
ironfroggyrork: trying, if i could get into the machine in the first place14:24
ironfroggybuilding a boot DVD now so i can do so14:24
rorkironfroggy: alt+shift+1 from KDM should bring you to a tty (commandline interface) where you should be able to login and use the commandline to move the directory14:26
BluesKajfoormea, you might try VLC it has pretty good streaming capabilitiies, not sure about tablets though14:26
foormeaBluesKaj: just tried but it's not doing what i want. well. streaming itself is not what i want, i want to pick/control all from the tablet. another app, "vlc stream&convert", lets you do that but it crashes on my tablet14:28
foormeabut thanks anyway for the suggestoin14:28
foormeai'm reading online about using simple samba shares14:28
foormeamhhhhh i'll look into nfsfs maybe. i wanted to try with sshfs, but the sshfs app is not free on android14:28
rorkironfroggy: sorry, CTRL+ALT+F1, CTRL+ALT+F7 will bring you back to KDM14:28
foormeanfsfs... nfs :) sorry14:29
BluesKajfoormea, ssh won't work ..it encrypts the data , then decrypts it , and samba isn't for streaming , it will copy to your tablet14:31
BluesKaj!streaming14:32
BluesKaj!info streaming14:32
ubottuPackage streaming does not exist in quantal14:32
BluesKajhmm14:32
foormeamh14:36
foormeaoh well14:36
BluesKajfoormea, the save convert option in vlc isn't really fro streaming ..hang on14:37
foormeano i'm tlaking about the android app14:38
BluesKajok14:38
foormeai just got a nexus714:39
foormeatrying to find a use for it14:39
BluesKajdo you have vlc on the server , pushing rather than pulling usually works best14:40
foormeawell the idea is that i wanna pull -- i wanna watch movies in bed, away from my computer14:40
foormeathat's why i was thinking about mounting a ssh/samba/nfs share onto the tablet, then accessing it with a regular video player14:42
yofelat lest the quantal kernel for the n7 doesn't have nfs or cifs support, I hope that they'll fix that in raring14:44
yofelsshfs works fine14:44
BluesKajyofel, for video streaming ?14:46
yofelI haven't tried that... but I guess you can spare one of the 4 CPU cores on SSH14:47
yofels/spare/spend/14:47
foormeayofel: you mean, mounting a ssh share with sshfs on the n7 and reading video file with a video player works fine?14:51
yofelI tried to read mp3's from sshfs which worked fine - video decoding I don't know14:52
foormeaok. sshfs, you had to buy?14:52
yofelah on android? haven't tried it there14:52
foormeamh? what do you mean then?14:53
foormeacomputer to computer using sshfs?14:53
yofelnexus7 running ubuntu using sshfs - that's experimental though14:53
foormeanexus7 running ubuntu!!??14:57
yofelfoormea: on android ES file explorer using sftp seems to work - but it's starving on network bandwidth here14:57
foormeaWOW14:58
foormeaokay now i think a tablet becomes interesting14:58
foormeai was reading about custom 'mods' for android and such14:58
foormeawas about to root my tablet and trey cyanogenmod14:59
foormeabut if i can install ubuntu... :D14:59
yofelwell, it ~works~, but bug 1068994 is the reason I put android on it again for now15:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1068994 in ubuntu-nexus7 "button1 gets stuck after a while" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106899415:00
foormeawow15:01
foormeadoes it run well? is it well adapted to the tablet?!15:01
foormeai must say i'm impressed15:02
foormeapardon my ignorance, but i'm not 100% sure i understand what rooting means. if rooting means being able to run things as su, why do you need rooting to install another OS since you're gonna be wiping the whole OS?!15:04
foormeayofel: did you use it with 12.10 or 13.04?15:12
yofel12.10, which was too buggy - haven't tried a current verison of 13.04 yet15:13
simplewyofel: prung15:15
yofelhm?15:15
simplewyofel: i have reported a bug but seams it wasnt reported to the correct application, is possible to move the bug report to the correct application in launchpad?15:16
simplewyofel: i have reported this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/1090601  to grub, but seams the correct package is grub215:17
yofelThere's a down arrow beside the package name whichs opens an UI for that or use the yellow edit button beside the package name15:17
ubottuUbuntu bug 1090601 in grub (Ubuntu) "setting grub with encrypted password fails if set in 40_custom" [Undecided,New]15:17
BluesKajwonder if the 13.04 AMD 64 daily build is still broken for my pc , haven't received any positive response to the bug I filed about it15:17
simplewyofel: ah yes i see it :)15:18
yofelhm, there's no ajax UI for the package name, so nvm the second part15:18
simplewyofel: ajax ui?15:19
yofelsimplew: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_%28programming%2915:21
simplewhum15:22
yofelthe yellow edit buttons and the green edit links on Launchpad are implemented using AJAX15:22
simplewi have choosed the package grub2 and clicked in save button, but now when i enter in grub2 in launchpad i dont see there this new bug report15:23
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yofelsimplew: it should've been assigned to grub-pc15:24
yofelhm15:24
yofelor maybe not15:24
yofelgrub2 after all15:25
yofelsimplew: shows up fine here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=015:25
simplewyes was needed to change the order ot importance, ok15:27
ubuntuhello all15:36
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Guest23717how we they ?15:36
edmundHi. I've installed Jubuntu 12.10 recently. I deleted the /home/edmund/Music and Videos directories and replaced with symbolic links to folders on another hard drive (ln -s /media/drivename/Music /home/edmund/Music). It seems to work perfectly fine, and as I've always used in Ubuntu in the past. But when I restart, the icons are different, and when I double click it says Idon't have permission to the file. I tired going to15:37
edmund the drive directly to mount it, then when I click the links it gives me a choice of a program to open it with...15:37
edmundI can delete and create the symbolic links again, but the same happends when I reboot... Any suggestions?...15:37
edmundKubuntu*15:37
simplewanyone knows what the ktorrent ID, how ktorrent appears to other torrent clients?15:41
BluesKajedmund, is the other drive on a remote network or local ?15:43
edmundlocal15:43
edmundfirst when I create the link, I can use it just as it it's a folder, as you'd expect a symbolic libnk to, afterwards it's like this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/is9fj.png?115:46
BluesKajedmund, first of all ,why the symbolic link , whynot ssh , samba or nfs ?15:48
edmundBlueKaj, I don't understand why I'd do those, I simply want to have a link to the folders on that drive from within my home directory. I've always use a smbolic link on ubuntu, and it's always worked....15:50
edmundit's a local drive15:50
BluesKajis it an outboard drive on that pc or is it a networked drive, edmund?15:52
edmundit's simply an internal drive, plugged in to ide15:52
yofelsimplew: "KTorrent <version>" as far as I know15:52
yofeledmund: the drive is mounted when you try to access the links?15:54
BluesKajedmund, then the drive should be directly accessible thru dolphin/places/devices or media in your home directory ..I don't understand the nedd for symbolic links15:54
BluesKajerr need15:55
yofelBluesKaj: I do that myself for system cosistency15:55
BluesKajconsistency yofel , in what manner ? Maybe you could explain , because i haven't seen that method recommended anywhere15:56
edmundYes, I can access by clciking on the drive and going through the folder structure, but it's nice to have the music folder right there in home. I dont see why it isnt working..it should be quite simple. I've done it on numerous other ubuntu installations..first time I've tried a kubuntu install though...dont see why it would be different, or whats wrong...15:57
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yofelI have some scripts that expect $STUFF to be in a specific location - and as my PC's have different setups I sometimes use symlinks and bind mounts to make sure that you can find the files in the same location on all systems15:58
BluesKajI just place launcher for the external drive in quicklaunch in the panel , works great15:58
edmundsame yofel15:58
yofeledmund: do the links work after you look through the drive?15:59
yofelmaybe it's just not auto-mounted15:59
edmundno, after looking through the drive, clicking the link gives me the 'opn with...' dialogue...15:59
edmundI can select dolphin, and it will open the location, but even though I clciked remeber this choice, it does the same if I try again...16:00
yofeldoes the link work in konsole?16:00
edmundI'll try16:00
akerok_Hello everyone!16:00
simplewyofel: finally a saw a guy with a ktorrent client when downloading a torrent16:00
edmundyes, works in konsole as normal16:01
yofelweird then...16:01
edmundI know...16:01
yofeledmund: I would try to set the drive to auto mount at login or on boot as a workaround - maybe dolphin doesn't recheck whether the links work again later16:04
yofeldoes pressing f5 in dolphin have any effect?16:04
edmundok, went through the settings in file properties in dolphin and added a icon and added dolphon to application preference order. seems to work..I'll try rebooting though...16:04
edmundok, is there an easy way to automount drives, or do I have to add to manually edit /etc/fstab?16:05
edmundI'll try a reboot, I'll be back16:06
yofelsystem settings -> removable devices16:06
edmundok I'll do that first thanks16:06
edmundyep seems to be working now..not sure which fix did it, but I set all drives to autmount on boot16:11
edmundthanks yofel16:11
foormeai've got something pretty strange with my audio setup. playing sound with vlc, if audio output is set to pulseaudio, very often the sound is gonna be totally saturated16:12
foormeaand i'll need to adjust the system volume to make it read sound properly again16:12
simplewyofel: do you have any raring in which you can run kmix and move capture slider with the mouse?16:14
yofellooks normal to me16:15
yofeloh capture... sec16:15
yofelApplication: KMix (kmix (deleted)), signal: Segmentation fault16:15
yofelfun16:15
yofelsimplew: I get kde bug 310959 which is fixed in RC116:20
ubottuKDE bug 310959 in general "kmix crash when trying to set input volume" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31095916:20
* yofel notices that we're talking in the wrong channel...16:22
Chocoqhabe mir den quassel-bildschirm verhunzt. kann mir jemand sagen wie ich es in 3 fensterbereiche teile links:alle-chats mitte:chat rechts-benutzer?16:36
Chocoqeinstellungen - quassel konfigurieren (und dann???)16:36
Mic4cHtalk in english please! Its international channel16:36
Chocoqsorry. how to create 3-parted-quassel-monitor. left-side:all-chats, middle: dialogs right-side: users16:38
Chocoqdistroyd it.16:38
Chocoqcreate and fix 3 parts/windows for quassel-monitor16:39
akerok_Is anyone here experienced with ubuntu servers?16:43
BluesKajakerok_, join #ubuntu-server16:50
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ndegruchyI'm having a strange crash in Rekonq when I try to setup a cookie whitelist, anyone else notice this?17:39
ndegruchyThis is the crash dialog17:42
ndegruchyhttp://imgur.com/7x2JB17:42
ndegruchythis is the dialog it happens at, when I hit apply or okay http://imgur.com/lGK3617:42
BluesKajndegruchy, rekonq is too buggy for everyday use , suggest using a differnt browser17:49
ndegruchyBluesKaj: I use Chromium, even though it's behind in kubuntu, it has better integration with KDE18:10
lacihi18:13
mime_1111hey ppl after instaling libsdl1.2, my app works perfect, but when i relaunch it, its textures and fonts had disappeared, heeelp plz, thnx18:54
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lopsterHello All, can anyone assist me with editing grub booting order? I'm using Kubuntu 12.04, thank you.20:07
DarthFrog!ask | lopster20:10
ubottulopster: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:10
lopsterOk, thanks. So my question is: I have 3 OS: Kubuntu, OpenSuse and Windows, the last OU installed on the system was OpenSuse and that's why currently grub is with this theme and th primary load OU is OpenSuse. I want to use as 1st boot OU Kubuntu and I don't know what I should change. I have found /etc/default/grub in Kubuntu drive pointing to GRUB_DEFAULT="Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-34-generic" which is obviously not active setting. I have found /etc/defaul20:17
DarthFroglopster:  A simple way to accomplish what you want is to boot into Kubuntu and run the following commands:  "sudo update-grub" then "sudo grub-install /dev/sd<whatever your boot drive is>"20:19
DarthFrogProbably /dev/sda20:21
DarthFrogIf you have only one drive, that's it.20:21
lopsterDarthFrog, thank you, I will try this.20:37
lopsterHi, I have tried to change boot loader so that it's not OpenSuse my 1st choice but Kubuntu 12.04. I have boot into Kubuntu and run the following commands: "sudo update-grub" then "sudo grub-install /dev/sda5. I have tried this about grub but nothing changed. I think I need to boot first into OpenSuse and then I need to update grub with the above commands, can you please confirm? Thank you.21:59
dniMretsaMlopster: sudo grub-install /dev/sda22:00
dniMretsaMlopster: notice the lack of partition number22:00
lopsterdniMretsaM: Yes, but OpenSuse is on the same disk, is Kubuntu will be my default option only because I'm running this command from within Kbuntu?22:02
dniMretsaMlopster: yes. when you run update-grub from Kubuntu, it will put itself as the first menuentry22:03
lopsterGreat, thanks for the confirmation.22:04
SJrBleh half of my menu icons have disappeared in Kubuntu 12.10 in Eclipse22:11
megustahello22:14
megustacan anyone help me out?22:14
megustai run debian, but it's a general linux question, i guess22:15
BluesKajmegusta, we may be able to answer , but the #debian channel is probly the best place for your answer22:17
lopsterHi, I just run sudo grub-install /dev/sda but I lost all other options except Kubuntu. Can you advise how to bring this back with kubuntu option as default? Thanks.22:22
InspectorCluseaulopster, may I help you?22:30
InspectorCluseauI would suggest you apt-get install grub-customizer Then run that in a terminal.22:32
lopsterHi, let me try22:33
BluesKajlopster, just run sudo update -grub in kubuntu22:35
thelionroarsthere is also a #grub channel22:38
BluesKajInspectorCluseau, where does one find  grub-customizer , doesn't appear in the repos22:41
InspectorCluseauIt's in my synaptic22:42
BluesKajnot mine22:42
InspectorCluseauI guess I installed it ... google it22:42
InspectorCluseauhttps://launchpad.net/grub-customizer22:44
InspectorCluseauIt is a good graphical tool22:45
BluesKaj a ppa22:45
monkeyjuiceBluesKaj:  its pouring down rain here22:45
BluesKajaha monkeyjuice , another colorado low22:49
monkeyjuicei would rather have snow22:49
BluesKajyeah monkeyjuice , freezing rain ..treacherous22:59

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