[00:21] <Linusnewb> hi does anyone know why my usb broadband modem not works in networkmanager? :)
[00:24] <Linusnewb> no one?
[01:35] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel:  which package contains the  plasma taskmanager widget?
[01:38] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[02:07] <ctw> Hi -- I just did a dist-upgrade and am getting the following error message: "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.5.0-21-generic (x86_64)"
[02:07] <ctw> the install doesn't finish because of it
[02:07] <ctw> and I'm worried about rebooting given that it's a kernel issue
[02:07] <ctw> does anyone here have an idea how to fix this?
[02:08] <phoenix_firebrd> ctw: hi
[02:11] <stiltzkin> Hey guys. Anyone good with fglrx? Apparently something broke and now I have no GUI, my Kubuntu box only boots to a terminal.
[02:13] <stiltzkin> I'll grab some pastes in a second if someone knows what I'm talking about
[02:16] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: hi
[02:24] <stiltzkin> Heya
[02:24] <stiltzkin> Here's a paste of what I think the relevant portion in kern.log is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441008/
[02:25] <stiltzkin> Just for completeness, uname -a: Linux luna 3.5.0-18-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 19 10:26:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:27] <stiltzkin> Any help appreciated.
[02:36] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: from where did you install the driver?
[02:36] <stiltzkin> Using jockey, the normal way
[02:36] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: could you paste the xorg.0.log
[02:37] <stiltzkin> This did not start happening after I installed the driver (this installation is quite old), I believe it started after a kernel update or something
[02:37] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: ok, to see whats wrong, i have to see the xorg.0.log file
[02:38] <stiltzkin> Sure, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441030/
[02:38] <stiltzkin> Looks like a segfault at the end there
[02:40] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: did you check if this is happening only when you cold boot your system?
[02:40] <stiltzkin> Yes, it happens on reboots as well
[02:41] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: can you check if there is a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/ ?
[02:43] <stiltzkin> Yes, there is...would you like that as well?
[02:43] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: no
[02:44] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: did you install any drivers from the website directly before?
[02:44] <stiltzkin> nope, only the regular ATI driver from the jockey installer
[02:45] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: what is your graphics card model\
[02:46] <stiltzkin> lspci says: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650]
[02:48] <OerHeks> stiltzkin, sounds like you installed an ATI driver manually ?
[02:50] <stiltzkin> Well if "manually" means clicking "install driver" in the Additional Drivers dialog, then I suppose, yes
[02:50] <stiltzkin> it's certainly not nouveau
[02:51] <stiltzkin> I think I may just need to reinstall at this point...something broke midway through an upgrade and this is probably just the result I have to deal with.
[02:52] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: ya try reinstalling the driver
[02:52] <stiltzkin> no I mean the whole operating system, I don't think I can just reinstall the driver
[02:53] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: why not?
[02:53] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: the 4xxx series have been moved to legacy by AMD/ATI, the newest AMD/ATI Catalyst driver you can install is 12.6
[02:53] <stiltzkin> can I do that with just cli?
[02:53] <stiltzkin> I tried "jockey-text" but it shows nothing available now
[02:55] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: 64-bit of or 32-bit?
[02:55] <stiltzkin> 64
[02:58] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: you'll need the following files:  fglrx_8.980-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  fglrx-amdcccle_8.980-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[02:58] <SIR_Taco> if anyone knows how to force install those instead of the current, it would help
[02:58] <stiltzkin> I'm wgetting the installation package manually, maybe this will work
[02:58] <stiltzkin> ah ok let me try those first, thanks
[03:00] <stiltzkin> They conflict with a virtual package which I can't remove, "fglrx-control"
[03:01] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: sudo dpkg -i --force <package name>
[03:01] <stiltzkin> hmmmmm using the --force option has killed my whole system before
[03:01] <stiltzkin> I mean granted it's pretty dead now but still lol
[03:03] <stiltzkin> trying --reinstall first
[03:04] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: if reinstall doesnt help , uninstall the driver and force install the drivers that SIR_Taco told
[03:04] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: forgot about that one
[03:06] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: i couldn't find anything fglrx-control, it must be inside the fglrx package
[03:08] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: it's in the amdccle package if I remember correctly
[03:09] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: right, so it must be uninstalled
[03:09] <SIR_Taco> fgrlx-amdccle package I should say
[03:09] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: ya
[03:13] <SIR_Taco> unfortunately the 2xxx, 3xxx and 4xxx series AMD/ATI cards have been depreciated by AMD/ATI. 12.6 Catalyst will be the last driver update (with the exception of security updates)
[03:15] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: when was this 4 series released?
[03:17] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: I think the 4xxx series started around 2008-ish
[03:18] <SIR_Taco> but the laptop I bought around then had a HD 3200
[03:19] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: in that case I wonder why they marked it as a legacy
[03:21] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: That's a good question... I read a release report a while back and it said something along the lines of: "the now legacy cards have been optimized to their full potential. The newer drivers offer no new features/benifits"
[03:21] <SIR_Taco> which is all fine and dandy.... until a kernel change breaks it
[03:21] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: right
[03:23] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: if not for gaming, the open drivers are fine now
[03:24] <stiltzkin> Hey, I'm back, sorry about that...
[03:24] <stiltzkin> Reinstalling seems to have worked, it did the dkms stuff
[03:24] <stiltzkin> let me try rebooting now
[03:25] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: yea, the radeon drivers are fine for my laptop, don't do much other than work on it anyway
[03:27] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: The only thing that is stoping me from using the open driver is the vdpau acceleration for the flash videos
[03:27] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: for the hd videos
[03:28] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: mine is a p4 processor so the gp has to compensate for it
[03:28] <stiltzkin> Hm. Still fails. Let's try this again. Maybe I should remove all of these fglrx packages and just try using the .zip from AMD's website?
[03:29] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: haven't used the vdpau drivers, never had a problem.
[03:29] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: remove all fglrx packages and try install the package that SIR_Taco told you
[03:29] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: in that case you must be using a new processor
[03:31] <stiltzkin> doing apt-get purge fglrx*
[03:32] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: it's an AMD Phenom II X4
[03:35] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: it should handle the flash videos nicely, my cpu jumps to 70% when seeing flah videos without vdpau
[03:36] <stiltzkin> I'm looking for the .debs
[03:37] <stiltzkin> oh, you mean build these from the installer
[03:40] <stiltzkin> Building the .debs failed, gonna try just using the normal installer
[03:40] <jay__> good morning people from scotland
[03:41] <stiltzkin> Nope, building the driver failed. Great.
[03:43] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: get the drivers from the repository
[03:44] <stiltzkin> how? I googled for those package names and can't find them anywhere
[03:44] <stiltzkin> I don't think the version matches the fglrx package in the repos either
[03:45] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:45] <stiltzkin> ah ok thanks
[03:45] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: read this sub topic 3. Installing upstream drivers directly from AMD's website
[03:46] <SIR_Taco> just remember 12.6 is it
[03:48] <stiltzkin> should I try building for "Ubuntu/precise" even though I'm really running "Ubuntu/quantal"
[03:48] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: it *should* still work
[03:48] <stiltzkin> well this is what I just did, it doesn't :(
[03:49] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: do you get errors?
[03:49] <stiltzkin> Yeah, hang on I'll put up a paste
[03:53] <stiltzkin> hang on, the output isn't saving to a file properly
[03:55] <stiltzkin> OK here's the full output. This is with the latest version from AMD's website (which is 8.97 I believe): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441102/
[03:58] <stiltzkin> I see I'm missing dependencies, give me a sec
[03:58] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: possibly try build-dep for fgrlx?
[03:59] <stiltzkin> see the thing is, if I try to do "apt-get install debhelper dh-modaliases execstack" all of those packages are already installed and up to date
[04:01] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin:  sudo apt-get build-dep fglrx (then try the manual way)
[04:01] <stiltzkin> OK.
[04:03] <stiltzkin> Same errors :/
[04:05] <stiltzkin> Maybe it's just time to back up my data and start fresh. Kinda sucks because I'll have to set up LVM and some configuration stuff again, but...this is just annoying at this point haha. I appreciate the help with it though.
[04:06] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: the deps are installed?
[04:06] <stiltzkin> yeah
[04:06] <stiltzkin> and it still fails
[04:06] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: what is the version of the installed debhelper?
[04:07] <stiltzkin> looks like...9.20120608ubuntu1
[04:13] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: have you installed the build-essentials package?
[04:13] <stiltzkin> yup
[04:14] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: are you installing the driver from amd's website
[04:14] <stiltzkin> yep, downloaded the zip manually
[04:15] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: do you like to try the open drivers?
[04:16] <stiltzkin> nope, I have to have AMD's drivers :/
[04:16] <stiltzkin> that's why I'm saying I'll probably need to reinstall
[04:16] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: it seems a reinstall may not do good, you can try your luck
[04:17] <stiltzkin> I mean it's worked fine for me in the past
[04:17] <stiltzkin> the only reason it's broken is because the upgrade utility just decided to crash on me in the middle of an upgrade
[04:17] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: its the kernel update , may be. do you have the old kernel still
[04:17] <stiltzkin> yeah, and I've tried booting the older kernels, they don't help :/
[04:20] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: how are you compiling the source from the website
[04:21] <stiltzkin> well I've tried both the regular way (just running the .run installer) and with --buildpkg
[04:23] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: good luck with your reinstall
[04:24] <stiltzkin> hahaha thanks, and I really do appreciate the help...disappointing I know
[04:24] <stiltzkin> won't be the first time :)
[04:26] <thelionroars> if someone has a default (or close enough) version of /etc/default/grub, would they be willing to pastebin it for me? I'm unable to update grub atm and can't work out why its not parsing
[04:28] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: :)
[04:29] <phoenix_firebrd> thelionroars: what do you mean b default?
[04:29] <thelionroars> as in you haven't done any self-configuration of it
[04:29] <thelionroars> I think otherwise it is fairly standard
[04:41] <phoenix_firebrd> thelionroars: http://paste.kde.org/625610/
[04:42] <thelionroars> thanks, someone on #grub was able to locate the problem though
[04:43] <thelionroars> I had changed from ASCII to UTF-8
[05:00] <phoenix_firebrd> thelionroars: ok
[08:00] <neha_> I can't enable monitor mode on my BCM43XX wifi card
[08:01] <neha_> I read somewhere that Broadcom does not support monitor mode
[08:01] <neha_> any workaround?
[08:22] <erdem> hey  turk  varmı  =)))
[12:29] <SteigeJo> test
[12:29] <monkeyjuice> test complete
[14:12] <ironfroggy> I have a machine that locked up and was hard rebooted. now, we can't login. failsafe login just flickers and goes back to the KDM login.
[14:12] <ironfroggy> I don't know how to get to any state that I can diagnose this. any suggestions?
[14:22] <rork> ironfroggy: try renaming your ~/.kde directory, this will set back kde to the defaults which might enable you to login again. This will also move some settings/data which you can retrieve from the renamed directory later
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:24] <foormea> hello! any suggestions to stream videos with a tablet? i've got movie files on a server, i've got a tablet, i wanna watch movies on the tablet withotu copying the movie files beforehand
[14:24] <ironfroggy> rork: trying, if i could get into the machine in the first place
[14:24] <ironfroggy> building a boot DVD now so i can do so
[14:26] <rork> ironfroggy: alt+shift+1 from KDM should bring you to a tty (commandline interface) where you should be able to login and use the commandline to move the directory
[14:26] <BluesKaj> foormea, you might try VLC it has pretty good streaming capabilitiies, not sure about tablets though
[14:28] <foormea> BluesKaj: just tried but it's not doing what i want. well. streaming itself is not what i want, i want to pick/control all from the tablet. another app, "vlc stream&convert", lets you do that but it crashes on my tablet
[14:28] <foormea> but thanks anyway for the suggestoin
[14:28] <foormea> i'm reading online about using simple samba shares
[14:28] <foormea> mhhhhh i'll look into nfsfs maybe. i wanted to try with sshfs, but the sshfs app is not free on android
[14:28] <rork> ironfroggy: sorry, CTRL+ALT+F1, CTRL+ALT+F7 will bring you back to KDM
[14:29] <foormea> nfsfs... nfs :) sorry
[14:31] <BluesKaj> foormea, ssh won't work ..it encrypts the data , then decrypts it , and samba isn't for streaming , it will copy to your tablet
[14:32] <BluesKaj> !streaming
[14:32] <BluesKaj> !info streaming
[14:32] <BluesKaj> hmm
[14:36] <foormea> mh
[14:36] <foormea> oh well
[14:37] <BluesKaj> foormea, the save convert option in vlc isn't really fro streaming ..hang on
[14:38] <foormea> no i'm tlaking about the android app
[14:38] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:39] <foormea> i just got a nexus7
[14:39] <foormea> trying to find a use for it
[14:40] <BluesKaj> do you have vlc on the server , pushing rather than pulling usually works best
[14:40] <foormea> well the idea is that i wanna pull -- i wanna watch movies in bed, away from my computer
[14:42] <foormea> that's why i was thinking about mounting a ssh/samba/nfs share onto the tablet, then accessing it with a regular video player
[14:44] <yofel> at lest the quantal kernel for the n7 doesn't have nfs or cifs support, I hope that they'll fix that in raring
[14:44] <yofel> sshfs works fine
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yofel, for video streaming ?
[14:47] <yofel> I haven't tried that... but I guess you can spare one of the 4 CPU cores on SSH
[14:47] <yofel> s/spare/spend/
[14:51] <foormea> yofel: you mean, mounting a ssh share with sshfs on the n7 and reading video file with a video player works fine?
[14:52] <yofel> I tried to read mp3's from sshfs which worked fine - video decoding I don't know
[14:52] <foormea> ok. sshfs, you had to buy?
[14:52] <yofel> ah on android? haven't tried it there
[14:53] <foormea> mh? what do you mean then?
[14:53] <foormea> computer to computer using sshfs?
[14:53] <yofel> nexus7 running ubuntu using sshfs - that's experimental though
[14:57] <foormea> nexus7 running ubuntu!!??
[14:57] <yofel> foormea: on android ES file explorer using sftp seems to work - but it's starving on network bandwidth here
[14:58] <foormea> WOW
[14:58] <foormea> okay now i think a tablet becomes interesting
[14:58] <foormea> i was reading about custom 'mods' for android and such
[14:59] <foormea> was about to root my tablet and trey cyanogenmod
[14:59] <foormea> but if i can install ubuntu... :D
[15:00] <yofel> well, it ~works~, but bug 1068994 is the reason I put android on it again for now
[15:01] <foormea> wow
[15:01] <foormea> does it run well? is it well adapted to the tablet?!
[15:02] <foormea> i must say i'm impressed
[15:04] <foormea> pardon my ignorance, but i'm not 100% sure i understand what rooting means. if rooting means being able to run things as su, why do you need rooting to install another OS since you're gonna be wiping the whole OS?!
[15:12] <foormea> yofel: did you use it with 12.10 or 13.04?
[15:13] <yofel> 12.10, which was too buggy - haven't tried a current verison of 13.04 yet
[15:15] <simplew> yofel: prung
[15:15] <yofel> hm?
[15:16] <simplew> yofel: i have reported a bug but seams it wasnt reported to the correct application, is possible to move the bug report to the correct application in launchpad?
[15:17] <simplew> yofel: i have reported this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/1090601  to grub, but seams the correct package is grub2
[15:17] <yofel> There's a down arrow beside the package name whichs opens an UI for that or use the yellow edit button beside the package name
[15:17] <BluesKaj> wonder if the 13.04 AMD 64 daily build is still broken for my pc , haven't received any positive response to the bug I filed about it
[15:18] <simplew> yofel: ah yes i see it :)
[15:18] <yofel> hm, there's no ajax UI for the package name, so nvm the second part
[15:19] <simplew> yofel: ajax ui?
[15:21] <yofel> simplew: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_%28programming%29
[15:22] <simplew> hum
[15:22] <yofel> the yellow edit buttons and the green edit links on Launchpad are implemented using AJAX
[15:23] <simplew> i have choosed the package grub2 and clicked in save button, but now when i enter in grub2 in launchpad i dont see there this new bug report
[15:24] <yofel> simplew: it should've been assigned to grub-pc
[15:24] <yofel> hm
[15:24] <yofel> or maybe not
[15:25] <yofel> grub2 after all
[15:25] <yofel> simplew: shows up fine here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[15:27] <simplew> yes was needed to change the order ot importance, ok
[15:36] <ubuntu> hello all
[15:36] <Guest23717> how we they ?
[15:37] <edmund> Hi. I've installed Jubuntu 12.10 recently. I deleted the /home/edmund/Music and Videos directories and replaced with symbolic links to folders on another hard drive (ln -s /media/drivename/Music /home/edmund/Music). It seems to work perfectly fine, and as I've always used in Ubuntu in the past. But when I restart, the icons are different, and when I double click it says Idon't have permission to the file. I tired going to
[15:37] <edmund>  the drive directly to mount it, then when I click the links it gives me a choice of a program to open it with...
[15:37] <edmund> I can delete and create the symbolic links again, but the same happends when I reboot... Any suggestions?...
[15:37] <edmund> Kubuntu*
[15:41] <simplew> anyone knows what the ktorrent ID, how ktorrent appears to other torrent clients?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> edmund, is the other drive on a remote network or local ?
[15:43] <edmund> local
[15:46] <edmund> first when I create the link, I can use it just as it it's a folder, as you'd expect a symbolic libnk to, afterwards it's like this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/is9fj.png?1
[15:48] <BluesKaj> edmund, first of all ,why the symbolic link , whynot ssh , samba or nfs ?
[15:50] <edmund> BlueKaj, I don't understand why I'd do those, I simply want to have a link to the folders on that drive from within my home directory. I've always use a smbolic link on ubuntu, and it's always worked....
[15:50] <edmund> it's a local drive
[15:52] <BluesKaj> is it an outboard drive on that pc or is it a networked drive, edmund?
[15:52] <edmund> it's simply an internal drive, plugged in to ide
[15:52] <yofel> simplew: "KTorrent <version>" as far as I know
[15:54] <yofel> edmund: the drive is mounted when you try to access the links?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> edmund, then the drive should be directly accessible thru dolphin/places/devices or media in your home directory ..I don't understand the nedd for symbolic links
[15:55] <BluesKaj> err need
[15:55] <yofel> BluesKaj: I do that myself for system cosistency
[15:56] <BluesKaj> consistency yofel , in what manner ? Maybe you could explain , because i haven't seen that method recommended anywhere
[15:57] <edmund> Yes, I can access by clciking on the drive and going through the folder structure, but it's nice to have the music folder right there in home. I dont see why it isnt working..it should be quite simple. I've done it on numerous other ubuntu installations..first time I've tried a kubuntu install though...dont see why it would be different, or whats wrong...
[15:58] <yofel> I have some scripts that expect $STUFF to be in a specific location - and as my PC's have different setups I sometimes use symlinks and bind mounts to make sure that you can find the files in the same location on all systems
[15:58] <BluesKaj> I just place launcher for the external drive in quicklaunch in the panel , works great
[15:58] <edmund> same yofel
[15:59] <yofel> edmund: do the links work after you look through the drive?
[15:59] <yofel> maybe it's just not auto-mounted
[15:59] <edmund> no, after looking through the drive, clicking the link gives me the 'opn with...' dialogue...
[16:00] <edmund> I can select dolphin, and it will open the location, but even though I clciked remeber this choice, it does the same if I try again...
[16:00] <yofel> does the link work in konsole?
[16:00] <edmund> I'll try
[16:00] <akerok_> Hello everyone!
[16:00] <simplew> yofel: finally a saw a guy with a ktorrent client when downloading a torrent
[16:01] <edmund> yes, works in konsole as normal
[16:01] <yofel> weird then...
[16:01] <edmund> I know...
[16:04] <yofel> edmund: I would try to set the drive to auto mount at login or on boot as a workaround - maybe dolphin doesn't recheck whether the links work again later
[16:04] <yofel> does pressing f5 in dolphin have any effect?
[16:04] <edmund> ok, went through the settings in file properties in dolphin and added a icon and added dolphon to application preference order. seems to work..I'll try rebooting though...
[16:05] <edmund> ok, is there an easy way to automount drives, or do I have to add to manually edit /etc/fstab?
[16:06] <edmund> I'll try a reboot, I'll be back
[16:06] <yofel> system settings -> removable devices
[16:06] <edmund> ok I'll do that first thanks
[16:11] <edmund> yep seems to be working now..not sure which fix did it, but I set all drives to autmount on boot
[16:11] <edmund> thanks yofel
[16:12] <foormea> i've got something pretty strange with my audio setup. playing sound with vlc, if audio output is set to pulseaudio, very often the sound is gonna be totally saturated
[16:12] <foormea> and i'll need to adjust the system volume to make it read sound properly again
[16:14] <simplew> yofel: do you have any raring in which you can run kmix and move capture slider with the mouse?
[16:15] <yofel> looks normal to me
[16:15] <yofel> oh capture... sec
[16:15] <yofel> Application: KMix (kmix (deleted)), signal: Segmentation fault
[16:15] <yofel> fun
[16:20] <yofel> simplew: I get kde bug 310959 which is fixed in RC1
[16:22]  * yofel notices that we're talking in the wrong channel...
[16:36] <Chocoq> habe mir den quassel-bildschirm verhunzt. kann mir jemand sagen wie ich es in 3 fensterbereiche teile links:alle-chats mitte:chat rechts-benutzer?
[16:36] <Chocoq> einstellungen - quassel konfigurieren (und dann???)
[16:36] <Mic4cH> talk in english please! Its international channel
[16:38] <Chocoq> sorry. how to create 3-parted-quassel-monitor. left-side:all-chats, middle: dialogs right-side: users
[16:38] <Chocoq> distroyd it.
[16:39] <Chocoq> create and fix 3 parts/windows for quassel-monitor
[16:43] <akerok_> Is anyone here experienced with ubuntu servers?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> akerok_, join #ubuntu-server
[17:39] <ndegruchy> I'm having a strange crash in Rekonq when I try to setup a cookie whitelist, anyone else notice this?
[17:42] <ndegruchy> This is the crash dialog
[17:42] <ndegruchy> http://imgur.com/7x2JB
[17:42] <ndegruchy> this is the dialog it happens at, when I hit apply or okay http://imgur.com/lGK36
[17:49] <BluesKaj> ndegruchy, rekonq is too buggy for everyday use , suggest using a differnt browser
[18:10] <ndegruchy> BluesKaj: I use Chromium, even though it's behind in kubuntu, it has better integration with KDE
[18:13] <laci> hi
[18:54] <mime_1111> hey ppl after instaling libsdl1.2, my app works perfect, but when i relaunch it, its textures and fonts had disappeared, heeelp plz, thnx
[20:07] <lopster> Hello All, can anyone assist me with editing grub booting order? I'm using Kubuntu 12.04, thank you.
[20:10] <DarthFrog> !ask | lopster
[20:17] <lopster> Ok, thanks. So my question is: I have 3 OS: Kubuntu, OpenSuse and Windows, the last OU installed on the system was OpenSuse and that's why currently grub is with this theme and th primary load OU is OpenSuse. I want to use as 1st boot OU Kubuntu and I don't know what I should change. I have found /etc/default/grub in Kubuntu drive pointing to GRUB_DEFAULT="Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-34-generic" which is obviously not active setting. I have found /etc/defaul
[20:19] <DarthFrog> lopster:  A simple way to accomplish what you want is to boot into Kubuntu and run the following commands:  "sudo update-grub" then "sudo grub-install /dev/sd<whatever your boot drive is>"
[20:21] <DarthFrog> Probably /dev/sda
[20:21] <DarthFrog> If you have only one drive, that's it.
[20:37] <lopster> DarthFrog, thank you, I will try this.
[21:59] <lopster> Hi, I have tried to change boot loader so that it's not OpenSuse my 1st choice but Kubuntu 12.04. I have boot into Kubuntu and run the following commands: "sudo update-grub" then "sudo grub-install /dev/sda5. I have tried this about grub but nothing changed. I think I need to boot first into OpenSuse and then I need to update grub with the above commands, can you please confirm? Thank you.
[22:00] <dniMretsaM> lopster: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[22:00] <dniMretsaM> lopster: notice the lack of partition number
[22:02] <lopster> dniMretsaM: Yes, but OpenSuse is on the same disk, is Kubuntu will be my default option only because I'm running this command from within Kbuntu?
[22:03] <dniMretsaM> lopster: yes. when you run update-grub from Kubuntu, it will put itself as the first menuentry
[22:04] <lopster> Great, thanks for the confirmation.
[22:11] <SJr> Bleh half of my menu icons have disappeared in Kubuntu 12.10 in Eclipse
[22:14] <megusta> hello
[22:14] <megusta> can anyone help me out?
[22:15] <megusta> i run debian, but it's a general linux question, i guess
[22:17] <BluesKaj> megusta, we may be able to answer , but the #debian channel is probly the best place for your answer
[22:22] <lopster> Hi, I just run sudo grub-install /dev/sda but I lost all other options except Kubuntu. Can you advise how to bring this back with kubuntu option as default? Thanks.
[22:30] <InspectorCluseau> lopster, may I help you?
[22:32] <InspectorCluseau> I would suggest you apt-get install grub-customizer Then run that in a terminal.
[22:33] <lopster> Hi, let me try
[22:35] <BluesKaj> lopster, just run sudo update -grub in kubuntu
[22:38] <thelionroars> there is also a #grub channel
[22:41] <BluesKaj> InspectorCluseau, where does one find  grub-customizer , doesn't appear in the repos
[22:42] <InspectorCluseau> It's in my synaptic
[22:42] <BluesKaj> not mine
[22:42] <InspectorCluseau> I guess I installed it ... google it
[22:44] <InspectorCluseau> https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[22:45] <InspectorCluseau> It is a good graphical tool
[22:45] <BluesKaj>  a ppa
[22:45] <monkeyjuice> BluesKaj:  its pouring down rain here
[22:49] <BluesKaj> aha monkeyjuice , another colorado low
[22:49] <monkeyjuice> i would rather have snow
[22:59] <BluesKaj> yeah monkeyjuice , freezing rain ..treacherous