[00:06] Hello [JellyBeans], anything I can help you with? [01:14] [JellyBeans]: You still here! Please don't idle in this channel. [01:15] from your whois I can see you are active. [04:30] Ubuntu has evolved into such a retarded joke though!, I mean, first the whole Desktop Environment goes all fugly, and now it even ships with ADWARE! [04:31] I wouldn't put it with much more from them [04:31] They know better [04:31] he's a known issue [08:57] May I have my ban lifted in #ubuntu please? [08:57] I believe it has been over 4 months [10:15] Gentoon: Do you know why you were banned? [10:25] Gentoon: hello? [10:25] hi [10:26] maybe he is sleeping? [10:26] maybe. [12:12] that was thesarge iirc [15:06] bazhang: Turn off your +g. [15:06] kthx. [15:22] jpds, hi [15:38] !attitude > almoxarife [15:42] @mark #ubuntu almoxarife muted for bad attitude towards another user who suggested he read the man page. [15:42] The operation succeeded. [15:48] @mark royk #ubuntu-offtopic again posting funny stuff in #ubuntu-server/offtopic trying to argue / justify it, enough with this guy now, next time ban [15:48] The operation succeeded. [15:51] erm... I was just banned from #ubuntu-server by ikonia for no reason known, perhaps he doesn't like me [15:52] anyone? [15:52] you already forgot the explanation he just gave you about being offtopic in -server? [15:53] I answered a question [15:53] I didn't post any more stuff [15:53] and you think calling him names and arguing about the rules is ok because you decided arbitrarily that on Sunday we shouldn't enforce them? [15:53] I didn't call him names [15:53] I didn't break any rules [15:53] I answered a question [15:53] just please rest, it's sunday, ok? all you anti-bad-christian-language people must know how to treat a sunday [15:54] that was in response to ikonia [15:54] yes [15:54] how bad can that be? [15:54] reason enough to ban a man from a channel? [15:55] where are the rules that say this? [15:55] ok, so you didn't call him a name, but you have been in the Ubuntu channels long enough and have had more than enough warnings about the rules in ubuntu channels, that you should know better. [15:55] I spend some time helping people in that channel. [15:55] "enough warnings?" I've used "foul language" a few times, and have corrected myself [15:56] apart from that, none [15:56] I know, which is why ikonia is upset and so am I that you have to be banned for you to understand that we spend just as much time trying to help keep the channels helpful [15:56] so please remove that ban and let me be helpful in there, like I've been over the last few years [15:57] every time a long time user like yourself slips a little, we have to be even more strict because if we aren't we get accused of favouritism [15:57] I promise I won't oppose bad language rules etc [15:57] RoyK: it isn't just the language [15:57] well, please tell, then [15:57] your general attitude towards any op who points out anything to you is the problem [15:58] I don't have a problem with ops [15:58] as you can see on #ubuntu-server, I wasn't the one that first opposed ikonia for that link I posted [15:58] You don't like being told what to do or how to act, I get that. I'm the same way. But we agreed when we joined this community that we would follow certain rules. [15:59] We can't follow them just when we feel like it. [15:59] sorry, but does the rules say I'm not allowed to have another meaning than ikonia just because he's an op? [16:00] You are allowed to your opinion of course, but it is generally a good idea to go along with the interpretation of the op. [16:01] well, that's a sealed book [16:01] for nothing else but to keep yourself from being banned, if you really disagree with a decision by an op you can always join here (without having been banned) and then discuss the decision. [16:01] banning a person like this, isn't really like it should be on IRC - I haven't posted threats or anything like that [16:01] there is also !appeals [16:02] !appeals [16:02] If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. [16:02] that last comment was perhaps a bit over the line, but nothing bad [16:02] ok, so I have to go through an "appeal process" to get access to #ubuntu-server again? [16:03] Alright, I'm willing to remove the ban but I need you to agree to join us in #ubuntu-offtopic for 1 week. Can you do that? [16:03] yes [16:03] I also need you to follow the !guidelines [16:03] in all Ubuntu channels [16:03] We agreed? [16:03] I generally do [16:03] like all of us [16:04] btw, that link was lol [16:04] ban has been lifted but I swear you make me regret this and I am not going to lol at any of your funny links again :P [16:06] RoyK: You can /part this channel now. thank you [18:34] @mark #ubuntu-offtopic j4jackj possible troll, created a channel with a bot sayig how bad ubuntu is, but wants to participate in ubuntu channels [18:34] The operation succeeded. [18:51] ikonia called the ops in #kubuntu-offtopic (j4jackj been told not to spam that link again) [18:52] none of our guys are around so if a staff member could assist please [18:52] Fuchs: ping as you're active [18:52] mh? [18:52] that looks like a very local channel issue to me, or am I missing something? [18:53] no [18:53] it's the guy who's just been banned in #ubuntu-offtopic spamming his channel link in #kubuntu-offtopic [18:53] after being told not to [18:53] ban him there? [18:53] I'd appreciate him being removed and a ban put on the address as none of our team is there [18:54] as we are on the access list I'll have a look, but I won't remove him unless I see him doing something that is clearly against the rules [18:54] he's just done it [18:54] hence why I called the ops [18:54] but none of our team is available [18:55] and the ops would be the people I'd prefer having a look, but as you noticed I am talking to the user now. [18:55] done [18:55] thank you for the help [18:56] wasn't me [18:56] if he sees sense with you, that's superb [18:56] ahh [18:56] not to worry [18:56] I surely won't op up people who are not on the ACL [18:56] still thank you [18:56] you're welcome [19:02] Fuchs: may want to look at him [19:02] looks like he's trying to get people to join #ubuntu-offtopic and offer up death threats [19:02] where? [19:02] in #defocus [19:03] hence the sudden influx in #ubuntu-offtopic [19:03] *sigh* [19:03] why do the trolls never get bored at that ***** [19:57] hello Ool [19:57] arf sorry wrong chan I'm thought it was #ubuntu-fr-ops [19:57] good night [19:58] no problem [21:00] Hi, when I try to speak in #ubuntu it says "[17:59] == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu" but I can read messages [21:01] you changed nicknames [21:01] /part #ubuntu and rejoin [21:10] thanks ;)