[00:06] <IdleOne> Hello [JellyBeans], anything I can help you with?
[01:14] <IdleOne> [JellyBeans]: You still here! Please don't idle in this channel.
[01:15] <IdleOne> from your whois I can see you are active.
 Ubuntu has evolved into such a retarded joke though!, I mean, first the whole Desktop Environment goes all fugly, and now it even ships with ADWARE!
[04:31] <IdleOne> I wouldn't put it with much more from them
[04:31] <IdleOne> They know better
[04:31] <bazhang> he's a known issue
[08:57] <Gentoon> May I have my ban lifted in #ubuntu please?
[08:57] <Gentoon> I believe it has been over 4 months
[10:15] <Jordan_U> Gentoon: Do you know why you were banned?
[10:25] <Myrtti> Gentoon: hello?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> hi
[10:26] <gnomefreak> maybe he is sleeping?
[10:26] <Myrtti> maybe.
[12:12] <bazhang> that was thesarge iirc
[15:06] <jpds> bazhang: Turn off your +g.
[15:06] <jpds> kthx.
[15:22] <bazhang> jpds, hi
[15:38] <IdleOne> !attitude > almoxarife
[15:42] <IdleOne> @mark #ubuntu almoxarife muted for bad attitude towards another user who suggested he read the man page.
[15:48] <ikonia> @mark royk #ubuntu-offtopic again posting funny stuff in #ubuntu-server/offtopic trying to argue / justify it, enough with this guy now, next time ban
[15:51] <RoyK> erm... I was just banned from #ubuntu-server by ikonia for no reason known, perhaps he doesn't like me
[15:52] <RoyK> anyone?
[15:52] <IdleOne> you already forgot the explanation he just gave you about being offtopic in -server?
[15:53] <RoyK> I answered a question
[15:53] <RoyK> I didn't post any more stuff
[15:53] <IdleOne> and you think calling him names and arguing about the rules is ok because you decided arbitrarily that on Sunday we shouldn't enforce them?
[15:53] <RoyK> I didn't call him names
[15:53] <RoyK> I didn't break any rules
[15:53] <RoyK> I answered a question
 just please rest, it's sunday, ok? all you anti-bad-christian-language people must know how to treat a sunday
[15:54] <IdleOne> that was in response to ikonia
[15:54] <RoyK> yes
[15:54] <RoyK> how bad can that be?
[15:54] <RoyK> reason enough to ban a man from a channel?
[15:55] <RoyK> where are the rules that say this?
[15:55] <IdleOne> ok, so you didn't call him a name, but you have been in the Ubuntu channels long enough and have had more than enough warnings about the rules in ubuntu channels, that you should know better.
[15:55] <RoyK> I spend some time helping people in that channel.
[15:55] <RoyK> "enough warnings?" I've used "foul language" a few times, and have corrected myself
[15:56] <RoyK> apart from that, none
[15:56] <IdleOne> I know, which is why ikonia is upset and so am I that you have to be banned for you to understand that we spend just as much time trying to help keep the channels helpful
[15:56] <RoyK> so please remove that ban and let me be helpful in there, like I've been over the last few years
[15:57] <IdleOne> every time a long time user like yourself slips a little, we have to be even more strict because if we aren't we get accused of favouritism
[15:57] <RoyK> I promise I won't oppose bad language rules etc
[15:57] <IdleOne> RoyK: it isn't just the language
[15:57] <RoyK> well, please tell, then
[15:57] <IdleOne> your general attitude towards any op who points out anything to you is the problem
[15:58] <RoyK> I don't have a problem with ops
[15:58] <RoyK> as you can see on #ubuntu-server, I wasn't the one that first opposed ikonia for that link I posted
[15:58] <IdleOne> You don't like being told what to do or how to act, I get that. I'm the same way. But we agreed when we joined this community that we would follow certain rules.
[15:59] <IdleOne> We can't follow them just when we feel like it.
[15:59] <RoyK> sorry, but does the rules say I'm not allowed to have another meaning than ikonia just because he's an op?
[16:00] <IdleOne> You are allowed to your opinion of course, but it is generally a good idea to go along with the interpretation of the op.
[16:01] <RoyK> well, that's a sealed book
[16:01] <IdleOne> for nothing else but to keep yourself from being banned, if you really disagree with a decision by an op you can always join here (without having been banned) and then discuss the decision.
[16:01] <RoyK> banning a person like this, isn't really like it should be on IRC - I haven't posted threats or anything like that
[16:01] <IdleOne> there is also !appeals
[16:02] <IdleOne> !appeals
[16:02] <RoyK> that last comment was perhaps a bit over the line, but nothing bad
[16:02] <RoyK> ok, so I have to go through an "appeal process" to get access to #ubuntu-server again?
[16:03] <IdleOne> Alright, I'm willing to remove the ban but I need you to agree to join us in #ubuntu-offtopic for 1 week. Can you do that?
[16:03] <RoyK> yes
[16:03] <IdleOne> I also need you to follow the !guidelines
[16:03] <IdleOne> in all Ubuntu channels
[16:03] <IdleOne> We agreed?
[16:03] <RoyK> I generally do
[16:03] <RoyK> like all of us
[16:04] <IdleOne> btw, that link was lol
[16:04] <IdleOne> ban has been lifted but I swear you make me regret this and I am not going to lol at any of your funny links again :P
[16:06] <IdleOne> RoyK: You can /part this channel now. thank you
[18:34] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic j4jackj possible troll, created a channel with a bot sayig how bad ubuntu is, but wants to participate in ubuntu channels
[18:52] <ikonia> none of our guys are around so if a staff member could assist please
[18:52] <ikonia> Fuchs: ping as you're active
[18:52] <Fuchs> mh?
[18:52] <Fuchs> that looks like a very local channel issue to me, or am I missing something?
[18:53] <ikonia> no
[18:53] <ikonia> it's the guy who's just been banned in #ubuntu-offtopic spamming his channel link in #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:53] <ikonia> after being told not to
[18:53] <Fuchs> ban him there?
[18:53] <ikonia> I'd appreciate him being removed and a ban put on the address as none of our team is there
[18:54] <Fuchs> as we are on the access list I'll have a look, but I won't remove him unless I see him doing something that is clearly against the rules
[18:54] <ikonia> he's just done it
[18:54] <ikonia> hence why I called the ops
[18:54] <ikonia> but none of our team is available
[18:55] <Fuchs> and the ops would be the people I'd prefer having a look, but as you noticed I am talking to the user now.
[18:55] <ikonia> done
[18:55] <ikonia> thank you for the help
[18:56] <Fuchs> wasn't me
[18:56] <ikonia> if he sees sense with you, that's superb
[18:56] <ikonia> ahh
[18:56] <ikonia> not to worry
[18:56] <Fuchs> I surely won't op up people who are not on the ACL
[18:56] <ikonia> still thank you
[18:56] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[19:02] <ikonia> Fuchs: may want to look at him
[19:02] <ikonia> looks like he's trying to get people to join #ubuntu-offtopic and offer up death threats
[19:02] <Fuchs> where?
[19:02] <ikonia> in #defocus
[19:03] <ikonia> hence the sudden influx in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:03] <k1l> *sigh*
[19:03] <k1l> why do the trolls never get bored at that *****
[19:57] <ikonia> hello Ool
[19:57] <Ool> arf sorry wrong chan I'm thought it was #ubuntu-fr-ops
[19:57] <Ool> good night
[19:58] <ikonia> no problem
[21:00] <CrazyZurfer> Hi, when I try to speak in #ubuntu it says "[17:59] == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu" but I can read messages
[21:01] <ikonia> you changed nicknames
[21:01] <ikonia>  /part #ubuntu and rejoin
[21:10] <CrazyZurfer> thanks ;)