[08:41] <Kilos> hi all
[09:59] <inetpro> good mornings
[10:00] <Cantide> hello hello '-'//
[10:05] <Squirm> afternoon
[10:07] <Cantide> :)
[10:41] <magespawn> afternoon
[10:59] <Kilos> hi inetpro magespawn Squirm Cantide 
[11:00] <Squirm> afternoon Kilos 
[11:07] <Cantide> :)
[11:07] <Cantide> I keep going AFK
[11:07] <Cantide> then coming back
[11:07] <Cantide> should be in and out for the next 30 minutes still
[12:09] <Cantide> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36318710/P1010008.JPG the finished lamp :)
[12:45] <Trixar_za> nuvolari: How did you ever get used to this
[12:45] <Trixar_za> Dvorak is hard
[12:45] <Trixar_za> :(
[12:51] <Cantide> hmm
[12:52] <Cantide> just installed an Audigy... and no sound..
[12:58] <Cantide> used alsamixer, got sound out, need to test mic still
[12:58] <Cantide> but now how can i get the sound settings icon in the systray/
[13:07] <Cantide> no need actually, i can just run it from the dash if i ever need it... now why isn't my mic working..
[14:01] <charl_> good afternoon
[14:01] <charl_> hi Cantide 
[14:02] <Cantide> hey charl_ :)
[14:02] <Cantide> i almost greeted ChanServ haha
[14:02] <charl_> yup happens :) first three letters are the same
[14:05] <Cantide> :p
[14:06] <Cantide> Hoe gaat het?
[14:06] <Cantide> >.<
[14:34] <Squirm> meh. ran out of international bandwidth at home
[14:35]  * Squirm loves an ssh tunnel
[15:01] <superfly> Squirm: ran out of bandwidth? why don't you have untapped?
[15:02] <Squirm> idk
[15:02] <Squirm> cause they have things called AUP's
[16:26] <charl_> Cantide: heel goed dank je, zelf?
[16:27] <Cantide> :p
[16:27] <Cantide> I am well :)
[16:27] <charl_> :)
[16:27] <Cantide> I wanted to try some Dutch
[16:27] <Cantide> not sure if i got it right :D
[16:27] <charl_> perfectly :)
[16:27] <Cantide> '-';;
[16:28] <Cantide> now i'm eating dinner
[16:28] <Cantide> so partially afk
[16:37] <Kilos> hmm one hand typing and other in the pap
[16:39] <Kilos> Maaz, supper please
[16:39] <Maaz> Kilos: Go get it yourself!
[16:39] <Kilos> swine bot
[16:39] <Kilos> Maaz, supper please
[16:39] <Maaz> Kilos Spaghetti bolognaise is ready to be served
[16:39] <Kilos> yoohoo
[16:40] <Cantide> hahha
[16:40]  * Cantide high fives Maaz 
[16:41] <Kilos> first gotta give one a hard time
[16:41] <Kilos> Maaz, swine
[16:41] <Maaz> If you call me names Kilos you will make you're own coffee and do your own googling!
[16:41] <Kilos> Maaz, sorry
[16:41] <Maaz> Kilos, no reason to be sorry
[17:02] <magespawn> hey all just got back and on my out again
[17:03] <magespawn> later all
[17:03] <Kilos> toods magespawn 
[17:09] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[17:09] <theblazehen> hi kilos.
[17:09] <theblazehen> remember me ?
[17:10] <Kilos> whew yeah from a while back hey?
[17:10] <Kilos> where you been
[17:10] <theblazehen> yeah. I've just been busy with exams and stuff. I've now moved to Arch though
[17:11] <Cantide> how is Arch?
[17:11] <Cantide> i almost moved to Arch about a year ago
[17:11] <Kilos> you like it?
[17:11] <Cantide> but i stuck it out with ubuntu and grew to like it again
[17:11] <theblazehen> quite nice and not really difficult at all. I enjoy it alot
[17:11] <Kilos> you gonne be here tomorrow evening at 19.30?
[17:11] <theblazehen> +Cantide perhaps you should install it in a VM?\
[17:11] <Kilos> monthly meeting
[17:12] <theblazehen> yeah sure.
[17:12] <Cantide> maybe i will try it on a spare HDD
[17:12] <theblazehen> Good idea :)
[17:12] <Cantide> i don't like trying things in VM
[17:12] <Cantide> it's not the same..
[17:12] <theblazehen> yeah me neither. 
[17:12] <Cantide> Kilos, I will try :p
[17:13] <theblazehen> Anyone wanna see my desktop ?
[17:13] <Kilos> Cantide, dont try , do it
[17:13] <Kilos> be here
[17:13] <Cantide> :p
[17:13] <Cantide> i might go out to see the Hobbit
[17:13] <Cantide> theblazehen, me me me '-';;
[17:13] <Kilos> ya theblazehen link?
[17:13] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/a/iwh1G
[17:14] <theblazehen> What you think ?
[17:14] <Kilos> eeeek
[17:14] <Kilos> thats ugly
[17:14] <Cantide> very nice background :)
[17:15] <theblazehen> :( why you say that Kilos ?
[17:15] <Kilos> lol
[17:15] <theblazehen> Cantide thanks
[17:15] <Kilos> im hooked on this kinda purple background
[17:15] <theblazehen> link ?
[17:15] <Kilos> and the gray kde one
[17:15] <theblazehen> not sure which one...
[17:16] <Cantide> theblazehen, looks good to me!
[17:16] <Kilos> whew you gotta wait some i sukkel to get images somewhre
[17:16] <Cantide> I would run that :)
[17:16] <Cantide> theblazehen, do you have a link to your background? although i can only really use it if i run Arch lol
[17:16] <theblazehen> +Cantide thanks. How does yours look?
[17:17] <theblazehen> gimme a min
[17:18] <Cantide> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36318710/Screenshot.png like so... but my desktop is usually clean - just got some stuff on there while i sort my HDDs out
[17:19] <theblazehen> +cantide i dont have a link but I can upload a 1920x1080 or 1024x600 for you
[17:19] <Kilos> how do i do this image thing Cantide 
[17:19] <Kilos> to where
[17:20] <theblazehen> +cantide http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lltzgnHi5F1qzib3wo1_400.jpg
[17:20] <nlsthzn> *yawn*]
[17:20] <Cantide> i took the pic of snow myself, too :)
[17:20] <theblazehen> +Kilos try apt-get install scrot
[17:20] <Cantide> Kilos, I'm using dropbox... maybe you can use tinypic?
[17:20] <Cantide> oh..
[17:20] <theblazehen> +Cantide nice pic
[17:20] <Cantide> or that :p
[17:21] <theblazehen> scrot will take SCReenshOT
[17:21] <Cantide> theblazehen, 1920 x 1080 please :)
[17:21] <Kilos> taking forever to get to imageshack
[17:21] <Cantide> Ubuntu already has a screenshot app
[17:21] <Cantide> which works nicely imho
[17:21] <Kilos> http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img842/1083/66851625.png
[17:21] <Cantide> but the uploading.. yeah.. that's up to Kilos :p
[17:21] <Kilos> messy
[17:22] <theblazehen> +Cantide gimme a minute
[17:22] <Squirm> hmm
[17:22]  * Squirm puts xubuntu on his netbook
[17:22] <Kerbero> i like lubuntu better for a netbook
[17:23] <Squirm> yeah
[17:23] <Kilos> lo Kerbero 
[17:23] <Squirm> not a fan of lxde
[17:23] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/JteOA
[17:23] <Cantide> also, be jealous of my lamp -> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36318710/P1010008.JPG
[17:23] <Squirm> so I'll try fxce first
[17:23] <Squirm> don't really like it much either
[17:23] <Squirm> but it's lighter than Mint
[17:24] <Cantide> theblazehen, tyvm! saved on my desktop lol :p
[17:24] <theblazehen> +Kilos not really much differences between all unity desktop hey?
[17:25] <Kilos> yeah i got hooked on the background with 8.10
[17:25] <Cantide> Kilos, your setup looks very vanilla :p
[17:25] <theblazehen> +Cantide no problem
[17:25] <Kilos> whats vanilla apart from flavouring
[17:25] <Cantide> unchanged, standard
[17:26] <nlsthzn> unity ftw ... my system is also stock at the moment (then again it is another fresh install)
[17:26] <Kilos> oh ya i dont mess with things
[17:26] <theblazehen> Kilos: why not?
[17:26] <Kilos> on kde i got one workspace with a kiff background but forgot how i did it so other 9 are gray
[17:27] <Cantide> mine is a fresh install + faenza icons
[17:27] <Cantide> that's it... and a few apps of course
[17:27] <Kilos> theblazehen, im scared i break things
[17:27] <nlsthzn> +1 for faenza
[17:27] <Kilos> this unity install has been very stable and reliable
[17:27] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[17:27] <nlsthzn> also, the guy that created faenza is creating some icons for ubuntu now :)
[17:27] <theblazehen> Kilos: dd if=/dev/sda of=external_hdd
[17:28] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos , all
[17:28] <Kilos> good ty nlsthzn and there
[17:28] <Kilos> dont say always good
[17:28] <Kilos> truth
[17:28] <nlsthzn> sometimes good thanks
[17:28] <nlsthzn> like now :p
[17:28] <Kilos> you also get flu
[17:28] <Kilos> arab flu
[17:28] <Kilos> hehe
[17:28] <Cantide> nlsthzn, yeah, i heard about that :) i bet 13.04 will look nice :)
[17:29] <nlsthzn> yeah, about time
[17:29] <Kilos> whew theblazehen im even more scared of dd commands
[17:29] <Kilos> the fly says stay away from them
[17:30] <theblazehen> yeah. mixed them up once when I tried to restore from backup :/
[17:30] <Cantide> :\
[17:30] <Kilos> lol
[17:30] <Kilos> i use the one to zero a drive and the one to copy mbr to another drive
[17:31] <theblazehen> ah. Ever use it for it's intended purpuse ... to Destroy Disk ?
[17:31] <Squirm> I use it for writing ISO's to a flashdrive
[17:31] <Squirm> along with indirectly using it to clone hdd's
[17:31] <nlsthzn> I made my ubuntu iso 0kb when I got it the wrong way around :/
[17:32] <Squirm> with Clonezilla
[17:32] <Squirm> lol nlsthzn 
[17:32] <theblazehen> +Squirm tried that once with an iso from remastersys. didn't wokr
[17:32] <Squirm> I did that with my Rasbian
[17:32] <Squirm> theblazehen: works well
[17:32] <theblazehen> +Squirm how is the Pi ?
[17:32]  * Squirm shrugs
[17:32] <theblazehen> ok
[17:32] <Squirm> haven't found much use for it
[17:32] <theblazehen> ever think of xbmc ?
[17:33] <Kerbero> xbmc is awesome on the pi
[17:33] <Squirm> no need for it
[17:33] <Kerbero> it supports CEC
[17:33] <Squirm> yeah
[17:33] <Kerbero> but it can't handle my media collection
[17:33] <theblazehen> +Kerbero why not?
[17:33] <Squirm> that's the only issue, it's slow
[17:34] <Squirm> but I see they come with 512Mb of RAM now :/
[17:34] <Squirm> I'm annoyed with that
[17:34] <Kerbero> mine is 512
[17:34] <Kerbero> but it has a hardware bug
[17:34] <theblazehen> +Squirm TBH it's graphics is better than my netbook
[17:34] <Kerbero> crash when it heats up
[17:34] <theblazehen> +Kerbero Buy a small freezer
[17:35] <Cantide> there is a board that supplements the Pi which interfaces with various things
[17:35] <Kilos> wbb gotta go eat
[17:35] <Cantide> so you can have it drive servos
[17:35] <Cantide> or control something
[17:35] <Cantide> which is really cool
[17:36] <Cantide> i could put one in my lamp and have it connected to the internet so that i can control my lamp remotely! '-'
[17:37] <Kerbero> nah the pi is overkill for that
[17:38] <theblazehen> +cantide how about doing that with a video feed and let people on the internet turn it on and of
[17:38] <theblazehen> f
[17:38] <Kerbero> just use a avr+eth module
[17:38] <Cantide> that would be fun :)
[17:38] <Cantide> just need a pi, that board, a cam.. eh
[17:38] <Kerbero> Cantide: http://www.jpmeijers.com/powermeter/
[17:38] <Kerbero> i use an arduino for that
[17:38] <Kerbero> also a bit overkill though
[17:38] <Kerbero> a pic would've worked fine
[17:39] <Cantide> very nice :)
[17:39] <theblazehen> +Kerbero whats the cause for the daily electricity spike ?
[17:39] <Kerbero> geyser on a timer
[17:40] <theblazehen> ok
[17:40] <theblazehen> and whats up with weekly temperature
[17:40] <Kerbero> you can see on the daily graph i turned my computer on at 13:30
[17:41] <Kerbero> and the hourly dips are the fridge
[17:41] <Kerbero> the temperature is normal as it is colder at night
[17:41]  * theblazehen facepalms
[17:42] <theblazehen> anyone hear about http://project-byzantium.org/
[17:42] <theblazehen> ?
[17:42] <Kerbero> urgh, i'm still full of glitter from last night
[17:43] <theblazehen> +Kerbero what happened last night ?
[17:43] <theblazehen>  /join #reddit
[17:43] <nlsthzn> theblazehen: can never be to prepared for zombies
[17:44] <theblazehen> +nlsthzn I think its a nice concept that i would like to try out
[17:45] <Kerbero> theblazehen: MCQP
[17:46] <theblazehen> ok
[17:47] <Kerbero> i wonder what protocol byzatium uses
[17:47] <theblazehen> Think its on their about page
[17:47] <Kerbero> likely batman
[17:48] <theblazehen> "At this moment in time, Byzantium has packaged two mesh protocols for  full-scale testing, Babel and BATMAN-advanced.  Rather than quote their  documentation verbatim I encourage you to take a look at the projects’  introductory documentation and see for  yourselves why we chose these  two protocols."
[17:48] <Kerbero> ahh ok
[17:49] <theblazehen> yeah.
[17:49] <Kerbero> i'm actually doing my masters on ad hoc networks
[17:50] <Kerbero> but on low speed telemetry networks
[17:50] <theblazehen> +Kerbero awesome. Can you please explain the basic differences between them ?
[17:50] <Kerbero> between mesh and ad-hoc?
[17:50] <Kerbero> or between the different protocols?
[17:51] <theblazehen> different mesh protocols
[17:51] <Kerbero> well mainly it has to do with what they use as metric
[17:51] <Kerbero> metric is the thing that gives weight or priority to routes/links
[17:51] <theblazehen> what do you mean by "what they use as metric"
[17:51] <theblazehen> oh
[17:51] <Kerbero> some will try to save power
[17:52] <Kerbero> while others will try and get the shortest path
[17:52] <Kerbero> some guarantees delivery with an extra overhead
[17:52] <Kerbero> while other go for speed
[17:53] <Kerbero> you can't have your cake and eat it
[17:53] <Squirm> .:Cantide:. i could put one in my lamp and have it connected to the internet so that i can control my lamp remotely! '-' <<--- I'd use it to control my house remotely
[17:53] <Kerbero> but the computer scientists try to
[17:53] <Squirm> .:Cantide:. there is a board that supplements the Pi which interfaces with various things <<--- Gertboard is one of them
[17:53] <Cantide> Squirm, well that, too, but i need to start somewhere :p
[17:53] <Kerbero> Squirm: indeed that will be a better use for it
[17:53] <theblazehen> +Kerbero why can't they both save power and take the shortest path ? wouldn't taking the shortest path lead to less power usage as less power is used passing the message/
[17:53] <Cantide> Squirm, Gertboard is exactly what I was thinking of :)
[17:53] <Squirm> .:Kerbero:. but it has a hardware bug <-- Try stick a small heatsink on the cpu?
[17:53] <Kerbero> theblazehen: going over a mountain vs going around
[17:53] <Kerbero> Squirm: i did :P
[17:54] <Squirm> :P
[17:54] <theblazehen> ok  I get it. (I think)
[17:54] <Squirm> I saw someone stick and LMR90(Analogue Thermometer) onto the CPU and automatically control a cooling unit
[17:54] <Kerbero> if you use solar panels to power the nodes, going through a forest will be more costly as around it
[17:54] <Squirm> was overkill, but cool to see it work
[17:54] <Squirm> bbl, food
[17:54] <theblazehen> +Kerbero which one is BATMAN and which one is Babel.
[17:55] <Kerbero> i don't really know those two that well
[17:55] <theblazehen> +Kerbero. ok . Do you believe that mesh networks will be able to build an alternative to the internet freenet style 
[17:56] <Kerbero> no
[17:56] <Kerbero> longer links = slower speed
[17:57] <Kerbero> there are internasional wireless ad-hoc networks up and running
[17:57] <Kerbero> but you can't use them for anything more than text messages
[17:57] <Kerbero> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_link_establishment
[17:58] <theblazehen> +Kerbero Thats why I mentioned freenet. Each user stores parts of websites and then others connect to them and ask for the part  and if it's not available they ask the neext node
[17:58] <Kerbero> on small scale i can see that can work
[17:59] <Kerbero> but it won't scale that well
[17:59] <Kerbero> too much overhead
[17:59] <theblazehen> +Kerberos. Ok
[17:59] <Kerbero> and it also won't work for dynamic websites
[17:59] <Kerbero> well i have to go
[17:59] <Kerbero> chat later!
[17:59] <theblazehen> +Kerbero why would there be too much overhead ?
[18:00] <theblazehen> by Kerbero
[18:00] <smile> hi :)
[18:00] <theblazehen> hi smile
[18:00] <Kerbero> hi en bye smile
[18:00] <smile> Kerbero: :(
[18:00] <smile> byeee :)
[18:00] <Kerbero> gaan hou vir jaendre geselskap
[18:00] <smile> hi theblazehen :)
[18:00] <smile> Kerbero: good night
[18:00] <theblazehen> hi :)
[18:01] <theblazehen> whats up?
[18:01] <theblazehen> anyone see http://www.masswerk.at/google60/
[18:01] <theblazehen> google in the 60's
[18:03] <Kilos> and tuesday evening at 8pm too theblazehen 
[18:03] <Kilos> reapp thing
[18:03] <theblazehen> Kilos: Ok
[18:03] <Kilos> ty
[18:03] <theblazehen> reapp thing?
[18:03] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/WtOUPl
[18:05] <theblazehen> +Kilos ok. BTW if it wasn't for Ubuntu and Kubntu CD's I would not be using linux today
[18:05] <Kilos> nuvolari, ping
[18:05] <Kilos> lol
[18:05] <theblazehen> Must say i didn't like gnome2 that much
[18:05] <Kilos> oo i prefer it to everything
[18:06] <nlsthzn> I see there is still some info missing, like how many people on IRC etc... do we have that someplace or should we remove the ????
[18:06] <Cantide> i liked gnome2 <3
[18:06] <Kilos> still run maverick on one pc
[18:06] <theblazehen> I remember having a 8.04 Kubuntu and a 9.04 ubuntu and i still used kubuntu
[18:06] <theblazehen> +Kilos why not mate ?
[18:06] <Kilos> i dunno nlsthzn we change here so much
[18:07] <nlsthzn> just something to keep in mind then before tuesday
[18:07] <Kilos> i used mate here theblazehen but it stopped giving me sound on xchat so removed it
[18:07] <Kilos> mate is good
[18:07] <theblazehen> kilos perhaps it broke something?
[18:08] <Kilos> yeah theblazehen but finding what was too much work
[18:08] <Kilos> so now we unity and kubuntu
[18:08] <theblazehen> Ah. 
[18:08] <Kilos> and maverick of course for serious stuff
[18:09] <theblazehen> personally i dont have much internet so im forced to fix stuff
[18:09] <Kilos> me too
[18:09] <Kilos> been a boon getting 8ta last bunch of months
[18:10] <Kilos> there were times i stretched 100 meg a month
[18:10] <superfly> nlsthzn: I've got a sort of a list of people in Ubuntu-ZA over the last year or so, I need to fix it up though
[18:10] <Kilos> hiya superfly 
[18:10] <theblazehen> i HAVE A 10 gig CAP.
[18:10] <nlsthzn> superfly: time is few :p
[18:10] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:11] <superfly> nlsthzn: yeah, I know, but tomorrow is a public holiday here :-)
[18:11] <nlsthzn> ah because today is a sunday... ah ok, nice
[18:11] <Kilos> 10 G and you say you dont have much. hehe
[18:11] <nlsthzn> ah, why am I typing ah so ah much
[18:11]  * superfly doesn't know how he'd survive on a cap anymore
[18:12] <Kilos> murder hey superfly 
[18:12] <nlsthzn> +1
[18:12] <theblazehen> +Kilos I like my torrents... Also it's for the whole family.
[18:12] <superfly> Ah, no wonder I'm not getting alerts here... I'm still logged in on my phone...
[18:12] <nlsthzn> got to say the 1gb cap on my android is working out... very efficient use of info
[18:12] <nlsthzn> lol
[18:12] <nlsthzn> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/12/new-dash-icons-proposed-for-ubuntu-13-04
[18:12] <Kilos> but all the time with min data taught me how to stretch things
[18:12]  * superfly logs off his phone
[18:12] <superfly> that should work better
[18:13] <Kilos> hope maia is here tomorrow evening
[18:14] <superfly> nlsthzn: with wifi at work and at home, my 500 meg databundle on my phone was just not being used, figured it was costing me more than just taking the R2/meg out-of-bundle
[18:14] <theblazehen> who's maia?
[18:14] <superfly> the LoCo co-ordinator
[18:14] <Kilos> our team contact
[18:14] <Kilos> maiatoday
[18:14] <theblazehen> +superfly why not cellc? they have R0.99 / MB
[18:14] <nlsthzn> superfly: I am also finding I am not fully using my data... have the wifi at home and I am not allowed my phone at work :/
[18:14] <theblazehen> +superfly+kilos ok
[18:15] <superfly> theblazehen: I've been on Vodacom for the last 10 years and I'm not lus to go to the effort of porting my number
[18:15] <theblazehen> thought it was easy ?
[18:15] <superfly> theblazehen: also, my phone is not the only one on my account
[18:16] <theblazehen> +superfly ok thats a bit more effort ...
[18:16] <superfly> theblazehen: I'd also have to find Cell C equivalents of the contracts myself and my wife have
[18:16] <theblazehen> +superfly ok
[18:17] <superfly> theblazehen: it's not like it's a huge cost every month... my and my wife's cellphone bills together almost never exceed R400/month
[18:17] <superfly> and without the data bundle, that'll be lowered to R250/month
[18:17] <theblazehen> ok.
[18:17] <Kilos> superfly, you need a long leave
[18:18] <theblazehen> Also anyone see linux format is available at exclusive books?
[18:18] <superfly> theblazehen: aka, the effort to go to Cell C is likely far more hassle than the R3/month I'm saving going to Cell C
[18:18] <theblazehen> ok
[18:18] <theblazehen> lol
[18:18] <theblazehen> thats not much data.
[18:18] <superfly> theblazehen: never really bought those magazines, they go out of date too quickly
[18:18] <theblazehen> do you have sync disabled?
[18:19] <superfly> theblazehen: I don't have an Android
[18:19] <nlsthzn> eeeek
[18:19] <theblazehen> +superfly yeah but the DVD's have nice stuff.
[18:19] <Kilos> lol
[18:19] <superfly> theblazehen: that I can't download with my uncapped internet?
[18:19] <theblazehen> +superfly ok. I was wondering how you did it
[18:19]  * nlsthzn strokes his S3... there there... it will be ok...
[18:19] <theblazehen> +superfly true...
[18:20] <theblazehen> +nlsthzn I have S2 with CM10
[18:20] <superfly> theblazehen: I *mostly* use the data on my phone for IRC and a little bit of browsing
[18:20] <Kilos> the fly has a cool fone
[18:20]  * superfly has a REAL Linux phone
[18:20] <theblazehen> +superfly what phone do you have? meego?
[18:20] <superfly> theblazehen: Maemo, the N900
[18:20] <nlsthzn> theblazehen: running my s3 with a Resurrection Remix ROM.... gives me JB 4.1.2 with some 4.2 apps
[18:20] <theblazehen> +superfly ok
[18:21] <theblazehen> +nlsthzn ok. Never really understood why people choose non-AOSP ROM's. Any advantages as I might upgrade to 4.2 soon
[18:22] <nlsthzn> RR is based on CM which is based on AOSP if I am not mistaken
[18:22] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[18:22] <Kilos> hes gonna say we talk too much again
[18:23] <nlsthzn> :)
[18:23] <Kilos> hehe
[18:23] <theblazehen> +nlsthzn ok. Just wondering about RR vs CM
[18:24] <superfly> theblazehen: you don't need to add the + in front of our names
[18:24] <nlsthzn> CM has to many holes with the S3 that they don't care to fix... so even with RR somethings aren't working and some things are wonky :/
[18:24] <theblazehen> Just a habbit...
[18:24] <theblazehen> ah. whats wrong with the S3
[18:24] <superfly> theblazehen: also, if you press the tab key, it can autocomplete nicks
[18:25] <Kilos> from where theblazehen 
[18:25] <theblazehen> kilos what do you mean ?
[18:25] <Kilos> other peeps use the @
[18:25] <theblazehen> thanks superfly
[18:25] <Kilos> twitter peeps
[18:25] <theblazehen> kilos still dont get what you mean
[18:26] <Kilos> i mean where did you get the habit
[18:26] <Kilos> sorry
[18:26] <theblazehen> large irc channels
[18:26] <theblazehen> with multiple discussions
[18:26] <Kilos> ah i dont go to others
[18:26] <Kilos> cant keep up
[18:27] <theblazehen> ok. Me neither. the best wayis to save the logs and read them i think
[18:27] <Kilos> my multitasking is breathing while i type
[18:27] <theblazehen> haha yeah I can barely reddit and IRC
[18:28] <superfly> if anyone wants to set up forums in the near future, I really recommend Vanilla - it's really awesome
[18:28] <Kilos> like the main #ubuntu channel
[18:28] <Kilos> only tried once there for help
[18:28] <theblazehen> also #linux
[18:28] <superfly> you folks are too slow
[18:28] <theblazehen> why superfly
[18:29] <Kilos> haha
[18:29] <superfly> I'm watching about 5 IRC channels, writing replies on forums, and listening to music :-)
[18:29] <theblazehen> shit...
[18:29] <Kilos> lol
[18:29] <superfly> I've at least managed to get the kiddos to stay downstairs
[18:30] <superfly> theblazehen: a little less on the foul stuff, asseblief?
[18:30] <theblazehen> also just checked and reddit.com/r/ubuntuza exists
[18:30] <theblazehen> superfly ok 
[18:30]  * superfly doesn't reddit much
[18:30] <Kilos> wb magedroid 
[18:30]  * theblazehen reddits way too much
[18:30] <magedroid> Good evening all
[18:31] <theblazehen> hi
[18:31] <Kilos> magedroid, you got tons to read lad
[18:32] <Kilos> theblazehen, note he is also a droid user
[18:32] <superfly> yo magedroid
[18:32] <superfly> theblazehen: maybe that's your problem?
[18:32] <theblazehen> thanks for info kilos
[18:32] <superfly> :-P
[18:32] <theblazehen> superfly maybe whats my problem?
[18:33] <superfly> theblazehen: redditr
[18:33] <theblazehen> ah.
[18:34] <Kilos> theblazehen, you onna pc now or cell
[18:34] <theblazehen> on pc
[18:34] <Kilos> then type first three letters of a nick and hit tab
[18:35] <Kilos> much easier
[18:35] <theblazehen> Kilos: ah thanks
[18:37] <superfly> Kilos: thanks, I tried to mention that earlier, but I am too direct
[18:37] <Kilos> np
[18:37] <Kilos> we all from that funny little town
[18:37] <Kilos> helpmekaar
[18:37] <theblazehen> lol
[18:38] <theblazehen> did my /away work?
[18:38] <Kilos> nope
[18:38] <nlsthzn> nope you are still here
[18:38] <Kilos> when
[18:39] <Kilos> on xchat you only see that if you right click on the nick
[18:39] <theblazehen> im using pidgin
[18:39] <magedroid> Hey superfly
[18:39] <Kilos> eeek
[18:40] <Kilos> i only mxit msn and aim on pidgin
[18:40] <theblazehen> why?
[18:40] <theblazehen> why not irc?
[18:40] <Kilos> fb and irc too much like work
[18:41] <theblazehen> how so?
[18:41] <Kilos> screen to small to see all the peeps
[18:41] <theblazehen> set it all up in 5 min or less
[18:41] <Kilos> lol
[18:41] <Kilos> i show offline buddies
[18:41] <theblazehen> thats why they have scroll bars
[18:41] <Kilos> so need a tall screen
[18:41] <theblazehen> oh yeah i should enable that
[18:41] <Kilos> whew that even more work
[18:42] <theblazehen> and done...
[18:42] <theblazehen> lol
[18:42] <Kilos> xchat on its own workspace is lekker
[18:42] <Kilos> im sure im the only unity user with 10 workspaces
[18:42] <magespawn> strange quasseldroid does not connect but laptop quassel through tablet does
[18:42] <theblazehen> yeah...
[18:43] <superfly> pidgin is an IM client, leave it be an IM client
[18:43] <superfly> use a proper IRC client for IRC
[18:44] <magespawn> Kilos what do I need to read?
[18:44] <theblazehen> It works well enough... Why should I  use a alternative IRC client ?
[18:44] <Kilos> the scroll back
[18:44] <superfly> theblazehen: pidgin is not an IRC client
[18:44] <Kilos> logs
[18:44] <Kilos> these peeps can chat man
[18:44] <theblazehen> I have logs
[18:44] <magespawn> anything in particular?
[18:45] <theblazehen> even sorted by date
[18:45] <Kilos> na
[18:45] <Kilos> pidgin keeps lekker logs
[18:45] <magespawn> cool will check it out
[18:46] <Kilos> is reddit also on freenode?
[18:46] <magespawn> superfly what client are you using on the phone for irc?
[18:46] <theblazehen> yes
[18:46] <superfly> magespawn: Quassel2Go
[18:46] <superfly> magespawn: and QuasselDroid on my Kindle
[18:47] <Kilos> whew too many peeps there
[18:48] <magespawn> did not know you got it for the n900
[18:48] <magespawn> will check it out
[18:50] <superfly> magespawn: You should find it in your package manager, IIRC
[18:51]  * magespawn goes to get the phone
[18:51] <superfly> magespawn: otherwise I'll hunt around for the deb and send it to you
[18:53] <superfly> *sigh* toddlers
[18:54] <Kilos> hehe
[18:55]  * superfly wraps some christmas presents
[18:58] <magespawn> think i have found it
[18:59] <Kilos> took long enough
[18:59] <Kilos> you getting old
[18:59] <magespawn> me?
[18:59] <superfly> wouldn't talk if I were you, Kilos :-P
[19:00] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:00] <superfly> you know, two keyboards take up a lot of room on one's desk...
[19:00] <magespawn> not me that is slow, more like the internet
[19:00] <Kilos> 2 on one pc?
[19:00] <superfly> Kilos: ya
[19:00] <superfly> Kilos: at work I have 2 keyboards AN D2 mice
[19:00] <Kilos> who uses the second one
[19:00] <superfly> at home I only have 1 mouse
[19:00] <superfly> Kilos: me
[19:01] <superfly> Kilos: why do you think I type so fast?
[19:01] <Kilos> no wonder your fingers are getting shorter superfly 
[19:02] <Kilos> no man superfly that doesnt make sense
[19:02] <smile> hi oom kilos, magespawn & superfly :p
[19:02] <superfly> Kilos: must i take a photo?
[19:02] <Kilos> hi smile 
[19:03] <smile> french tomorrow :)
[19:03] <magespawn> superfly which repo is it in?
[19:03] <Kilos> no man superfly  i believe you but they on same pc so doing same job or not
[19:03] <superfly> magespawn: hrm, not sure
[19:03] <Kilos> to same places i mean
[19:04] <Kilos> as in they both can type to here?
[19:04] <superfly> yes
[19:04] <Kilos> lol and 2 mice
[19:05] <superfly> magespawn: which package manager are you using?
[19:05] <Kilos> when do you decide to use which one?
[19:05] <Kilos> hehe
[19:05] <superfly> magespawn: I can't seem to figure where mine is from
[19:05] <magespawn> superfly found a deb here http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/Quassel2Go?content=136828
[19:05] <magespawn> not sure either the one that came with the phone
[19:05] <superfly> magespawn: yeah, I was just about to search there
[19:06] <superfly> magespawn: ah, use "Faster Application Manager" - you can select multiple packages at the same time
[19:06] <superfly> it's more like a traditional Linux package manager
[19:09] <magespawn> Installing
[19:11] <magespawn> will be good to have it on the phone
[19:16] <magespawn> of course takes for ever to update the phone
[19:16] <superfly> magespawn: yeah, that's a pain
[19:18] <Kilos> superfly, with 2 mice you got one or 2 of them arrow goodies
[19:18] <Kilos> cursors?
[19:19] <Kilos> i tried 2 and both move the same arrow
[19:28] <magespawn> man the connection is all over the place tonight
[19:28] <Squirm> http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/215041_10151183861211840_1251989351_n.jpg
[19:29] <magespawn> superfly i cannot update the catalogues. will try in the morning
[19:29] <theblazehen> lol
[19:30] <magespawn> dissconnected three times\
[19:30] <Kilos> magespawn, you gonna be at work tomorrow
[19:30] <magespawn> disconnected
[19:30] <Kilos> or here anyway
[19:30] <magespawn> yup have stuff to do 
[19:30] <magespawn> here as well
[19:30] <smile> byeee :p
[19:30] <smile> good night :DD
[19:30] <Kilos> remind me to get info from the pro for the twit place please
[19:31] <magespawn> night smile
[19:31] <Kilos> night smile 
[19:31] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:31] <magespawn> will do
[19:31] <smile> thanks :D
[19:32] <Kilos> had a terrible job to do this morning
[19:32] <Kilos> had to install xp to get diskmagic to burn a bootable cd
[19:32] <magespawn> lol
[19:33] <Kilos> so stupid that is
[19:33] <Kilos> you gotta install for it to be able to give you the option
[19:33] <magespawn> why did you need diskmagic to do that Kilos?
[19:34] <Kilos> no man diskmagic is to fix seagate drives
[19:34] <Kilos> like seatools but thats in dos
[19:34] <magespawn> ahh right
[19:34] <Kilos> diskmagic is the gui goodie
[19:35] <Kilos> once installed you can burn a cd or get the iso and use another ap to burn it
[19:35] <Kilos> grrr
[19:35] <magespawn> no luck updating the repos here superfly
[19:35] <Kilos> diskwizard not magic
[19:38] <magespawn> i havve a similar problem on a Gigabyte Q2005 netbook, bad sectors and disk corruption
[19:38] <superfly> Kilos: a single cursor
[19:38] <magespawn> have
[19:39] <magespawn> goint to have to wait to tomorrow to install over adsl
[19:39] <Kilos> superfly, so whats the point of 2 mice then?am i just being doff
[19:39] <superfly> magespawn: yeah, I mostly use WiFi these days
[19:40] <theblazehen> I noticed Maaz has support for coffee. Any chance we can add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Text_Coffee_Pot_Control_Protocol
[19:40] <superfly> Kilos: at work we have 2 people working together on things
[19:40] <Kilos> magespawn, i just got an 80g drive so it dont show any bad sectors anymore
[19:40] <Kilos> wow superfly must be stressful
[19:40] <magespawn> do you get wifi all over superfly? or just for updating?
[19:40] <Kilos> hunting for where the other guy left the cursor
[19:41] <magespawn> theblazehen: you would need to talk to cocooncrash
[19:41] <theblazehen> ok
[19:41] <magespawn> Kilos did you finish the 2tb?
[19:41] <superfly> magespawn: not sure what you're asking me... I have a WiFi network at work, and one at home, so I use ADSL over WiFi most of the time
[19:41] <superfly> magespawn: well, when installing stuff
[19:42] <superfly> for IRC and things I am usually out, so I'm using 3G
[19:42] <Kilos> nope it wont let me write anything to it magespawn 
[19:42] <Kilos> grrr
[19:42] <Kilos> thats what the diskwizard is for
[19:43] <magespawn> i know they have free wi-fi in stellenbosch, thought they might have extended it or something
[19:44] <Squirm> and theblazehen, just fyi. # dd if=./ISO/xubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdg bs=1M
[19:45] <Kilos> night everyone
[19:45] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:45] <magespawn> night Kilos
[19:45] <Squirm> night night Kilos 
[19:45] <theblazehen> tried that before but with a remastersys iso. didnt work
[19:45] <Kilos> Maaz, announce Monthly meeting tomorrow night all
[19:45] <superfly> magespawn: wifi is just a wireless network
[19:45] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Monthly meeting tomorrow night all
[19:45] <Squirm> theblazehen: is it an iso for a bootable cd?
[19:46] <theblazehen> yes.
[19:46] <Squirm> then I don't know
[19:46] <theblazehen> booted when I used the pendrivelinux.com usb creator
[19:46] <magespawn> yup i know but you do get wan wi-fi
[19:46] <Squirm> hmm
[19:46] <Squirm> I don't know theblazehen 
[19:47] <theblazehen> yeah. don't matter tho. Don't need to do it anymore
[19:48] <Squirm> it should also work creating an ISO. you just reverse the if and of
[19:48] <theblazehen> Yeah. strange .
[19:48] <Squirm> dd is fun
[19:48] <theblazehen> except when you are doing backups and mix up if and of
[19:48] <Squirm> especially making a Gb file with zero data :P
[19:49] <theblazehen> bitch please 30 GB swap file here :/
[19:49] <magespawn> Squrim can be lots of fun if you mix if and of with an empty and a full disk
[19:49] <Squirm> ^^
[19:49] <magespawn> lol
[19:49] <Squirm> lol magespawn 
[19:49] <magespawn> great mindsd think a like
[19:50] <Squirm> also creating a few tasks to create many Gb worth from /dev/random on someones pc
[19:50] <theblazehen> why not /dev/urandom? 
[19:50] <theblazehen> /dev/urandom is pseudo-random
[19:50] <theblazehen> wont stop if out of entropy
[19:51]  * Squirm shrugs
[19:51] <Squirm> never heard of it :P
[19:51] <theblazehen> ok
[19:51] <Squirm> thanks
[19:52] <Squirm> makes more sense
[19:52] <theblazehen> np
[19:52] <Squirm> but there is always data
[19:52] <Squirm> I think the IO off the hdd generates bits
[19:52] <Squirm> but not sure
[19:52] <theblazehen> also timing between keypresses and mouse movements methinks
[19:52] <Squirm> yep
[19:53] <Squirm> if usage too
[19:53] <theblazehen> ok
[19:54] <Squirm> the boredom :|
[19:55] <theblazehen> yeah :/ busy pllaying thepowdertoy.co.uk now
[19:56] <Squirm> I think I should just go to bed
[19:56] <theblazehen> yeah. Good night
[19:56] <Squirm> cheers
[20:07] <magespawn> good night all
[20:07] <theblazehen> night
[20:48] <theblazehen> hello SeeBorg
[20:48] <SeeBorg> hello