[02:59] <ejat> yofel : u here?
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[07:34] <jussi> Was someone working on the ownclod packaging? 
[07:55] <soee> good morning
[08:22] <jussi> morning soee!
[08:36] <soee> yohoho :)
[08:36] <soee> 4.10 RC1 soon 
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[09:42] <allee> mtp
[09:42] <allee> mtp
[10:15] <Riddell> jussi: I've done bits, why?
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[10:28]  * apachelogger stares at Riddell
[10:29]  * Riddell is used to stares, being so good looking and all
[10:29] <apachelogger> oh noes, my stare has failed
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[10:30] <Riddell> umm, did I forget to put out the recycling last night?
[10:33]  * apachelogger is in a troll mood
[10:33] <Riddell> ok I give up, what have I done wrong?
[10:33] <apachelogger> nothing
[10:34] <apachelogger> just trolling :P
[10:34] <apachelogger> unless
[10:34] <apachelogger> did you write the new qml systray?
[10:34] <Riddell> not one of my acomplishments that
[10:34] <apachelogger> too bad
[10:36] <apachelogger>     property variant  __att_icon:          __has_task ? task.attIcon : __getDefaultIcon()  <- attIcon is always a QIcon, __getDefaultIcon is either a QString or a QIcon ... that is an actual type variant, in that its type depends on the moon
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[11:19] <Quintasan> \o
[11:47] <jussi> o/
[12:45]  * apachelogger may be able to do useful things soonish again :P
[13:02] <rbelem> hi all :-)
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[13:03] <rbelem> Riddell, hi :-)
[13:05] <rbelem> Riddell, i have more changes for icecc. if you have some time to take a look on it... :-) media.rbelem.info/icecc_0.9.8~git2012121601-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz media.rbelem.info/icecc_0.9.8~git2012121601.orig.tar.bz2
[13:06] <rbelem> Riddell, now with libcap-ng :-)
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[13:16] <apachelogger> jussi, agateau: sni-qt icons fixed
[13:17] <jussi> apachelogger: nice
[13:18] <jussi> apachelogger: fixed upstream?
[13:18] <apachelogger> yes
[13:18] <apachelogger> now I can continue triaging bugs
[13:18] <apachelogger> lol
[13:31] <Riddell> rbelem: groovy, all upstream?
[13:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you still need amarok tested?
[13:36] <shadeslayer> yes please
[13:36] <Riddell> mm, actualy not sure that'll work in a chroot or an ec2
[13:36] <shadeslayer> you're on raring?
[13:38] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1088772] Broken icons in plasma tray @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1088772 (by xapienz)
[13:38] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes
[13:38] <shadeslayer> test the raring package in -proposed ?
[13:39]  * shadeslayer is still perplexed as to how lastfm stuff worked without us shipping the lib that's needed
[13:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: amarok depends on liblastfm1, what else is needed?
[13:41] <shadeslayer> nah, we didn't ship usr/lib/libamarok_service_lastfm_shared.so
[13:41] <shadeslayer> !find usr/lib/libamarok_service_lastfm_shared.so quantal
[13:41] <ubottu> Package/file usr/lib/libamarok_service_lastfm_shared.so does not exist in quantal
[13:41] <Riddell> what does that do?  we have /usr/lib/kde4/amarok_service_lastfm.so
[13:41] <shadeslayer> that lib depends on usr/lib/libamarok_service_lastfm_shared.so
[13:42] <Riddell> are you sure it's not a new thing in what you're packaging?
[13:42] <shadeslayer> at runtime
[13:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: don't think so, the build logs for 2.6.0 show usr/lib/libamarok_service_lastfm_shared.so 
[13:42] <shadeslayer> it's a run-time lib needed by amarok_service_lastfm.so
[13:42] <Riddell> hmm, well maybe it didn't work indeed :(
[13:43] <Riddell> it needs someone with a payed for last fm account to test
[13:43] <shadeslayer> oh really?
[13:43] <shadeslayer> I thought it worked with free accounts as well
[13:44] <Riddell> nah, they blocked that ages ago
[13:44] <Riddell> but you could still use the desktop client
[13:44] <Riddell> as I understand it
[13:44] <Riddell> but the desktop client is going payed-only from next month waa
[13:46] <apachelogger> not working in quantal it seems
[13:47] <agateau> apachelogger: \o/ thanks!
[13:47] <agateau> (for sni-qt, that is)
[13:48] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer: nvm, it refused to remember the login data... seems to work fine
[13:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: amarok installed and working in raring
[13:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: what's working?
[13:48] <apachelogger> lastfm
[13:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: you pay for your scrobbling then?
[13:49] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I really think scrobbling is free :P
[13:49] <apachelogger> god no, a friend :P
[13:49] <apachelogger> scrobbling is free, yes
[13:49] <Riddell> apachelogger: mm, fancy /msging me the password? :)
[13:49] <apachelogger> no :P
[13:50] <Riddell> apachelogger: but you wouldn't want this important feature to go untested!
[13:50] <apachelogger> I just tested it :P
[13:51]  * apachelogger ponders lunching while workspace builds
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[14:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: amarok broken on arm, are you on the case?
[14:49] <shadeslayer> I know, but can't be helped at the moment
[14:49] <shadeslayer> needs opengl
[14:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can be helped, don't install that file on arm
[14:51] <shadeslayer> hmm 
[14:51] <shadeslayer> I'll give it ago
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[14:53] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I don't think there's an easy way of doing that, needs removed from the .install file then explicity cp command in debian/rules
[14:53] <shadeslayer> :S
[14:55] <shadeslayer> actually
[14:55] <shadeslayer> build-deps say : libqt4-opengl-dev [!armel !armhf]
[14:56] <Riddell> yeah but I don't think there's an equivalent for .install files
[14:57] <Riddell> you could have amarok.install.i386 and each of the platforms but that's not very elegant
[14:57] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:57] <shadeslayer> plus, think of the delta :P
[14:59] <Darkwing> If anyone has my email listed at linux@wonderly.com... Please change it to linux@opendarkwing.com Just sold wonderly.com.
[15:00] <Riddell> Darkwing: your namesake wanted a vanity domain?
[15:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: any idea why digikam isn't being moved to release?
[15:00] <shadeslayer> ScottK knows why
[15:00] <shadeslayer> opencv transition iirc
[15:01] <shadeslayer> but could be wrong
[15:01] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Did you fix the amarok beta?
[15:01] <Darkwing> Riddell: Someone starting a video podcast for geek girls and they liked the name wonderly...
[15:01] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yes :)
[15:01] <Darkwing> 3K USD this close to Christmas will be nice. 
[15:01] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Why no update in staging?
[15:02] <Riddell> not an offer I'd refuse for sure
[15:03] <Quintasan> I'd try getting more out of them if I were Darkwing
[15:03] <Darkwing> LOL No, I like what they are trying to do.
[15:03] <Quintasan> but 3k is nice nontheless
[15:03] <Quintasan> :P
[15:03] <Riddell> must be a very well funded podcast
[15:04] <Riddell> did you point them at some of our geek girls for role models and interviews?
[15:04] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Rohaaaaaan
[15:05] <Quintasan> where be me update
[15:05] <Riddell> Quintasan: did you do any update to maliit?
[15:06] <shadeslayer> wait
[15:06] <Quintasan> Riddell: Uhh, no.
[15:06] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: its in staging
[15:06] <Riddell> Quintasan: any planned?
[15:06] <Quintasan> Riddell: The packaging is done and the errors you mentioned need to be fixed upstream or I'll have to patch the source myself
[15:06] <shadeslayer> I'm trying to setup ktp daily builds
[15:06] <Quintasan> currently lib look like
[15:06] <Darkwing> Riddell: I'm actually building a base with the owner. I'll be doing a lot of that in the coming weeks / months.
[15:07] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: amarok - 2:2.6.90-0ubuntu2~ubuntu12.10.1~ppa1
[15:07] <Quintasan> libmaliit-<soname>.so.<soname>
[15:07] <Quintasan> lintian complains about the first soname
[15:07] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ...
[15:07] <Quintasan> 2:2.6.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10.1~ppa1
[15:07] <Quintasan> guess what
[15:08] <shadeslayer> ?
[15:08] <Quintasan> 2:2.6.90-0ubuntu2~ubuntu12.10.1~ppa1 < 2:2.6.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10.1~ppa1 apparently
[15:08] <shadeslayer> eh what
[15:08] <shadeslayer> then how did the PPA accept that version
[15:08] <Quintasan> or it's not built for amd64 yet
[15:08] <shadeslayer> nope, built for am64
[15:09]  * Quintasan whines
[15:09] <shadeslayer> dpkg says 2:2.6.90-0ubuntu2~ubuntu12.10.1~ppa1 is bigger
[15:10] <Quintasan> I'll just force it
[15:11] <Riddell> Quintasan: well it comains that the .deb doesn't match the library name, that's easily fixed in the packaging
[15:11] <Quintasan> Riddell: because the library is named in a dumb manner?
[15:12] <Quintasan> even upstream agreed on that
[15:12] <Quintasan> it should be libmaliit.so.<soname>
[15:12] <Quintasan> Riddell: I could change the package name but then we would get
[15:13] <Quintasan> libmaliit-1.0.0 0.93.0-0ubuntu1
[15:13] <Quintasan> makes perfect sense, eh?
[15:13] <Riddell> Quintasan: so will upstream change it?
[15:13] <Quintasan> He said yes but not exactly when so I emailed him about it yesterday or two days ago
[15:13] <Quintasan> I heard he is on vacation
[15:14] <Riddell> ok worth waiting for then
[15:14] <Quintasan> I should have asked him to tell me who to poke about this so I would be on their necks right now
[15:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: how did your active packaging progress?
[15:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we contacted upstream regarding patches, they said we can apply the patches for the desktop as well
[15:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: mm so just add them to the packaging then?
[15:16] <shadeslayer> we should talk with active people as to what can be applied for the desktop and what can't 
[15:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: the patch doesn't fully apply against 4.10 :P
[15:17] <Riddell> meh
[15:17]  * shadeslayer goes to poke sebas
[15:18] <Riddell> shadeslayer: so I'm confused, "we can apply the patches for the desktop" doesn't git with "talk..as to what can be applied for the desktop"
[15:18] <shadeslayer> well ... the patches for kdelibs can be shipped for the desktop but doesn't apply cleanly
[15:18] <shadeslayer> we didn't talk about kde-workspace
[15:20] <Riddell> mm
[15:20] <Riddell> never easy
[15:21] <shadeslayer> yeah, I've asked him for patches against 4.10 and which patches can be shipped for -desktop
[15:22] <Riddell> him being sebas?
[15:23] <Riddell> hoew badly do they not apply?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/active/3.0/src/patches/kdelibs-plasma-active-patches.diff
[15:24] <shadeslayer> applies half heartedly :P
[15:24] <shadeslayer> #active
[15:24] <shadeslayer> erm
[15:25] <shadeslayer> <sebas> it looks quite messy, as if it's master taken against 4.9
[15:26] <Riddell> upstream really needs to learn how to communicate with upstream
[15:26] <Riddell> wait..does that even make sense?
[15:28] <Riddell> rbelem: icecc uploaded, make sure to send changes to debian
[15:28] <rbelem> thanks Riddell 
[15:28]  * rbelem hugs Riddell :-)
[15:29] <rbelem> shadeslayer, do you need help with something?
[15:30] <shadeslayer> talking with active people regarding patches :(
[15:30] <shadeslayer> s/)/)/
[15:30] <shadeslayer> ...
[15:30] <shadeslayer> we can skip ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/active/3.0/src/patches/kde-workspace-no-hibernate-button.diff
[15:32] <rbelem> Riddell, almost everything is upsteam. Only build system patches are not upstreamed. I will make some more changes and will merge request them :-)
[15:33] <apachelogger> meh, initramfs busted -.-
[15:33]  * apachelogger gives up for today
[15:34] <rbelem> shadeslayer, last relase i spend lots of time to get active patches in the packages. Lots of adjustment :-/ 
[15:35] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:35] <apachelogger> because patching is crap
[15:36]  * rbelem nods
[15:36] <rbelem> it should be in the repository
[15:36] <rbelem> even with ifdef would be better
[15:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: are you on quantal?
[15:46] <Riddell> or have you given up for today?
[15:46] <apachelogger> latter
[15:46] <apachelogger> need to download iso and fix my initramfs
[15:47] <apachelogger> not sure how to fix it though as I only update-initrafms'd it ^^
[15:47] <soee> im on quantal :}
[15:49] <Riddell> soee: could you stop cups with  sudo stop cups
[15:49] <Riddell> then see what errors appear in ~/.xsession-errors
[15:49] <Riddell> hmm, my battery is about to die
[15:52] <soee> Riddell, you want whole xsession-errors content ?
[15:54] <Riddell> soee: no I just want to knoe if KCupsConnect start spamming it
[15:54] <soee> how can i check it ?
[15:54] <Riddell> tail -f ~/.xsession-errors
[15:54] <Riddell> (control-c to stop it)
[15:56] <soee> http://pastebin.com/BhDHxWxd
[15:58] <Riddell> soee: got print-manager running in the systray?
[16:01] <soee> Riddell, nope
[16:10] <Riddell> soee: could you add it?
[16:10] <Riddell> right click->systray settings->tick on print
[16:12] <soee> plasma-desktop(2296) KCupsConnection::renewDBusSubscription: Request failed 1282
[16:12] <soee> terminal is spamed with 
[16:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do you want to ship ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/active/3.0/src/patches/kde-workspace-kwin-touch-mouseevents-translation.diff
[16:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/626888/
[16:35] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Can I play cue files in amarok?
[16:38] <Riddell> soee: thanks :)
[16:38] <soee> no problem, 4.10 rc1 comming this wednesday ?
[16:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well i think we have those three items
[16:40] <shadeslayer> cool :)
[16:41] <Riddell> although I've not tested myself but the whole multitouch thing is an ubuntu speciality
[16:41] <Riddell> soee: no sign of it yet
[16:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: it's just that do we want that for the destkop since the patch is a bit of a hack
[16:42] <shadeslayer> but
[16:42] <soee> uhm whats the name to get zlib installed ?
[16:42]  * shadeslayer checks
[16:43] <apachelogger> Quintasan: how would I know?
[16:43] <apachelogger> #amarok
[16:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I /think/ we either want it for both or neither, and I /think/ we want it for both
[16:44] <shadeslayer> yeah
[16:44] <shadeslayer> okay so, we just need to build kde-workspace with said patches
[16:45] <Quintasan> apachelogger: You are the multimedia overlord
[17:02] <shadeslayer> I'm going to upload PA stuff to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+packages
[17:02] <shadeslayer> then ask vHanda for his exoPC to test
[17:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: go for it
[17:03] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:04] <soee> how can i restart krunner ?
[17:06] <Riddell> soee: not like that :)
[17:19] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: I think we can drop the kwin active packages
[17:19] <shadeslayer> and not do 2 builds etc
[17:20] <Riddell> yay
[17:23] <shadeslayer> but what do we about the split packages
[17:23] <Riddell> shadeslayer: split packages?
[17:23] <shadeslayer> kde-window-manager-active and the likes
[17:25] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well replace them with the non-active equivalent no?
[17:25] <shadeslayer> sure, but upgrade paths
[17:25] <shadeslayer> and seeds
[17:27]  * shadeslayer deletes sections for now
[17:29] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1091354 and bug 1091340 for sru review
[17:29] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1091354 in qjson (Ubuntu Quantal) "qjson does not serialise floats" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1091354
[17:29] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1091340 in print-manager (Ubuntu Raring) "print-manager spams .xsession-errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1091340
[17:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we still need dual builds
[17:34] <shadeslayer> different profiles
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[17:36] <Riddell> shadeslayer: mm
[17:39] <Riddell> ScottK: that issue with kdesdk having FDL with invariant sections is a non issue, it's just a template for potential use
[18:05] <jussi> agateau: for your extra mile... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311841
[18:06] <ubottu> KDE bug 311841 in general "No apply button in systemsettings/workspace appearance/window decorations/configure decoration" [Minor,Unconfirmed]
[18:06] <jussi> anyone feel free to go confirm that for me...
[18:10] <ScottK> Riddell: SRU bugs needs test case, etc from the SRU template.
[18:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks for checking on the FDL thing.
[18:11] <Riddell> ScottK: I fixed the template anyway
[18:12] <Riddell> test case added to bug 1091340
[18:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1091340 in print-manager (Ubuntu Raring) "print-manager spams .xsession-errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1091340
[18:12] <Riddell> afiestas: got a test case for bug 1091354 ?
[18:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1091354 in qjson (Ubuntu Quantal) "qjson does not serialise floats" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1091354
[18:14] <jussi> who is the lead for Lancelot do we know? 
[18:15] <Riddell> no idea
[18:15] <Riddell> who needs lancelot when you have homerun?
[18:16] <Riddell> ScottK: while I agree no Messages.sh is a bug to be fixed I don't see how it's grounds for rejection when there's no .po files shipped with it?
[18:17] <ScottK> Riddell: I thought it was you that told me it was because it was part of the build system and for freeness reasons it needs to be shipped.
[18:18] <Riddell> ScottK: yes it was
[18:18] <Riddell> but now I'm wondering how that is affected if the .po file is shipped entirely separately
[18:19] <Riddell> but that's all a bit academic :)
[18:19] <ScottK> The freeness stuff often is.
[18:33] <Riddell> ScottK: I'm very confused about this kdegames translation, there's no Messages.sh in git or in the old svn setup
[18:33] <Riddell> and tsdgeos seems not to be around today
[18:33] <ScottK> Wierd.
[18:34] <ScottK> Go ahead and reupload the one i rejected for that and I'll acceptit.
[18:34] <ScottK> i'll leave it to you to sort out later.
[18:42] <Riddell> ScottK: kiriki 4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1 (New)
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[19:19] <Riddell> ScottK: oh it's hiding away in src/Messages.sh
[19:19] <Riddell> so nothing missing
[19:19] <ScottK> Even better.
[19:19] <ScottK> Thanks for checking.
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[20:22] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: if you're about, can you also test ktp 0.5.2
[20:22] <shadeslayer> about to upload it
[20:22] <shadeslayer> for quantal
[20:25] <shadeslayer> we could then potentially SRU it
[20:27] <dantti_laptop> which 4.10 package is plasmoidviewer now?
[20:28] <dantti_laptop> it used to be in kde-workspace-bin...
[20:29] <shadeslayer> erk
[20:44] <shadeslayer> dantti_laptop: uh yeah
[20:44] <shadeslayer> dantti_laptop: we need to set some variable which was not set in the release
[20:45] <dantti_laptop> :D
[20:45] <shadeslayer> more specifically the profile we're building, so all those tools are now gone
[20:46] <yofel> apachelogger said that it's part of plasmate now - whatever that is
[20:46] <yofel> (plasmoidviewer)
[20:46] <dantti_laptop> hmmm
[20:46] <dantti_laptop> I see no plasmate package :P
[20:47] <shadeslayer> plasmate hasn't been released
[20:47] <shadeslayer> so no package yet
[20:47] <dantti_laptop> cmd not found report wrong stuff tho
[20:47] <dantti_laptop> oh... 
[20:47] <dantti_laptop> at least I can kill plasma-desktop, just not much productive.. :P
[20:49] <shadeslayer> hah
[20:55] <shadeslayer> hmm
[21:26] <soee> KDE Telepathy 0.5.2 Released
[21:26] <soee> :)
[21:32] <shadeslayer> soee: already in kubuntu staging ppa :)
[21:32] <shadeslayer> but there are some issues I'm trying to sort out
[21:32] <shadeslayer> upstream tarball is broken
[21:32] <soee> ;o
[21:50] <shadeslayer> soee: apart from the kded module, everything is built : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging
[22:12] <shadeslayer> soee: fixed ktp-kded uploaded as well
[22:12] <soee> shadeslayer, ok thank you