| satellit | mjrosenb: http://support.google.com/chromeos/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1080595 how to recover chromebook | 00:00 |
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| mjrosenb | satellit: as I said earlier, I can recover it | 00:02 |
| mjrosenb | also, I suspect that won't work on my laptop | 00:02 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:55 |
| mjrosenb | morning. | 08:24 |
| mjrosenb | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2001455 | 08:24 |
| mjrosenb | that is from my pandaboard, I just tried to upgrade a fresh install to 12.10, and got a black screen. | 08:24 |
| mjrosenb | I also got this in dmesg | 08:25 |
| mjrosenb | [ 7.703308] init: Failed to spawn hybrid-gfx main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory | 08:25 |
| mjrosenb | ok, I have the sd card plugged into my laptop, and I want to enable the ssh server... is there an easy way to do this? | 08:31 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: You're missing libdrm-omap1, looks like. | 09:01 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Also, it's not so much "enabling" the ssh server as installing the package, which you'd need to do either on an ARM machine, or with emulation. | 09:02 |
| mjrosenb | qemu-system-arm does not have an omap4 option from what i can tell | 09:02 |
| mjrosenb | i'm actually kind of surprised there isn't a pandaboard option | 09:03 |
| infinity | I'm not. | 09:03 |
| infinity | Emulating a Panda isn't something qemu upstream would care to do, and TI didn't see the value in writing a board-specific emulator (most vendors don't) | 09:04 |
| infinity | Anyhow, I didn't mean full system emulation. | 09:04 |
| infinity | qemu-user-static would be fine. | 09:04 |
| infinity | Mount your SD card to somewhere (we'll say /mnt), apt-get install qemu-user-static && cp /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static /mnt/usr/bin && chroot /mnt su - | 09:05 |
| infinity | Presto, you're in your ARM system as a chroot. | 09:06 |
| infinity | apt-get install ssh libdrm-omap1 | 09:06 |
| infinity | apt-get install pvr-omap4 # if you wanted some non-free 3D action. | 09:07 |
| infinity | Which is probably necessary, if you're running Ubuntu/Unity. | 09:08 |
| mjrosenb | for whatever reason, ssh seems to already be installed | 09:11 |
| mjrosenb | but it isn't starting | 09:11 |
| mjrosenb | and it isn't bringing up the network | 09:11 |
| hrw | infinity: can you share /var/log/Xorg.0.log from panda with opengles support? | 10:10 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: If your network is wireless-only, that could explain it. | 10:12 |
| infinity | hrw: My Panda has no X right now. | 10:12 |
| mjrosenb | infinity: nope, eth0 is the pandaboard's onboard connection | 10:14 |
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| infinity | mjrosenb: Oh, curious. Maybe it hates you/ | 10:15 |
| hrw | infinity: ok | 10:16 |
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| mjrosenb | sweet, I can ssh into my pandaboard again | 11:25 |
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| mjrosenb | ok, I know I did this on my last install; what do I need to run in order to get a non-hf library installed? | 12:26 |
| mjrosenb | or better yet, what on earth is it called? | 12:27 |
| mjrosenb | i'm searching for multilib | 12:27 |
| mjrosenb | but that is giving man irrelevant results | 12:27 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Depends on which non-hf library you need. | 12:45 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: If it's just libc6 (and a gcc that can build sf binaries), there are multilib versions. | 12:46 |
| mjrosenb | looks like the answer was | 12:46 |
| mjrosenb | dpkg --add-architecture armel | 12:46 |
| mjrosenb | which is surprisingly hard to find via google | 12:46 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: If it's more comprehensive, you want multiarch (dpkg --add-architecture armel && apt-get update && apt-get install libfoo1:armel) | 12:46 |
| infinity | That said, I wouldn't rely on armhf/armel multiarch going forward, since we've dropped armel in raring... | 12:47 |
| infinity | What are you doing that *needs* soft-float libraries? | 12:47 |
| mjrosenb | y'all are making my life really hard, you know that? | 12:47 |
| mjrosenb | i'm testing fennec, which is supposed to run on android which is armel. | 12:48 |
| infinity | .. unless it's newer Android, then it's not. :P | 12:48 |
| mjrosenb | how does that work from a packages' point of view? | 12:49 |
| infinity | That said, fennec could be rebuilt... | 12:49 |
| mjrosenb | do they need to upload two .apks, one for armel, one for armhf? | 12:49 |
| infinity | I have no idea how Android is handling the sf/hf transition. | 12:49 |
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| infinity | Then again, most apps aren't C binaries, so the point is moot for them. | 12:50 |
| mjrosenb | you know what version they made the transition in? | 12:50 |
| infinity | It could also be that this is all a bit different with bionic, I have no idea. | 12:50 |
| infinity | I just know they were doing the transition (or maybe had done so). | 12:51 |
| sveinse | Does anyone know if Network Manager regularely scans for a list of available networks in precise? We're having some problems with communication locking up for 2-3 seconds and wondering if this could be related to nm scanning the networks | 12:51 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: It's possible they haven't actually made the switch yet for bionic-based systems (ie: Android), though they definitely did for ChromeOS. | 12:51 |
| infinity | Confusing world. | 12:52 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Still, for an open-source project like fennec, surely you'd want to build it for Ubuntu to run it on Ubuntu anyway? | 12:52 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Since an Android build wants bionic, which means running shims and other horrors. | 12:52 |
| mjrosenb | infinity: we don't build for ubuntu, ubuntu does :-p | 12:52 |
| infinity | s/Ubuntu/glibc/? :P | 12:53 |
| mjrosenb | bionic? | 12:53 |
| * mjrosenb googles | 12:53 | |
| infinity | bionic is Android's libc. | 12:53 |
| infinity | It's not even remotely compatible with glibc. | 12:53 |
| mjrosenb | FUN. | 12:53 |
| infinity | There is a project that produces a disturbing translation shim that allows glibc systems to run bionic binaries with an LD_PRELOAD. | 12:53 |
| infinity | It's not pleasant. | 12:53 |
| infinity | I don't recommend it for a project you actually have the source to. | 12:54 |
| mjrosenb | we already have NSPR | 12:54 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Err, NSPR doens't give you portability at runtime, but at build-time. | 12:55 |
| infinity | A bionic-using nspr won't do you a lick of good on a glibc system. | 12:55 |
| mjrosenb | yeah, but I don't think it has ever been our goal to have a single executable that runs on all arches. | 12:56 |
| infinity | (bionic is vaguely BSD-derived, think about how well it wouldn't work to take a binary from FreeBSD and run it on Linux, even if you had the kernel syscalls emulated) | 12:56 |
| infinity | No, it shouldn't be your goal to run a binary on multiple arches. I agree. | 12:56 |
| infinity | Hence why I'm suggesting you might just want to rebuild it. | 12:56 |
| infinity | Cause libc6:armel still won't be bionic, so multiarch isn't going to help you here. | 12:56 |
| mjrosenb | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2001793 | 12:57 |
| mjrosenb | ahh. yes, but I like testing in an environment that is as close to what we'll be seeing in a shipping product as possible | 12:58 |
| mjrosenb | the js engine doesn't really have to deal with libc that much | 12:58 |
| mjrosenb | but it does need to deal with the likes of math.sin math.atan2 | 12:58 |
| infinity | The wrapper lies, it's linux-ti-omap4-tools-3.5.0-215 | 12:58 |
| mjrosenb | where the armel/armhf distinction comes into play | 12:58 |
| infinity | Oh, wait. You're doing this to test for Android? | 12:59 |
| mjrosenb | yup. | 12:59 |
| infinity | Then you should build an Android chroot. | 12:59 |
| mjrosenb | that sounds neat. | 12:59 |
| infinity | Testing against glibc won't really tell you anything. | 12:59 |
| mjrosenb | as previously stated, I have basically 0 interaction with glibc. | 12:59 |
| mjrosenb | but I *am* intrigued by the concept of an android chroot. | 13:00 |
| infinity | Well, you must have some, or would wouldn't care about ABI. | 13:00 |
| infinity | Since if you were talking to the kernel directly, it's meaningless. | 13:00 |
| mjrosenb | Error: sys_perf_event_open() syscall returned with 19 (No such device). /bin/dmesg may provide additional information. | 13:00 |
| mjrosenb | :( | 13:00 |
| infinity | I didn't say perf would work, just pointed at the package that ships it! | 13:01 |
| infinity | (Sorry, I haven't slept in a while, that's about as helpful as I can be right now) | 13:01 |
| mjrosenb | as previously stated, there are math functions that are called that I need to be able to call correctly. | 13:01 |
| infinity | I should probably nap instead of being flip on IRC. | 13:01 |
| mjrosenb | not a problem, I may have to build my own kernel, wouldn't be the first time | 13:01 |
| infinity | Well, you'll also want an Android kernel for your test environment, so yeah. | 13:02 |
| infinity | Though, Linaro provides Panda Android builds that might be up your alley. | 13:02 |
| mjrosenb | well, I like using linux because it has a sane debugging strategy | 13:02 |
| suihkulokki | the disturbing shim thing is called libhybris: https://github.com/stskeeps/libhybris | 13:03 |
| suihkulokki | currently does libgles and stuff, but should be adabtible for any libraries | 13:03 |
| mjrosenb | right now, getting perf to work is a higher priority. | 13:05 |
| mjrosenb | was the source for linux-image-3.5.0-215-omap4 provided by linaro? | 13:46 |
| Jef91 | Morning folks sfeole are you around? | 15:16 |
| sfeole | Jef91: i am | 15:16 |
| Jef91 | sfeole: I was told you are the one to speak to about finding current docs on how the Ubuntu fastboot image is created for flashing to the nexus 7 | 15:17 |
| sfeole | Jef91: hm, give me a few | 15:21 |
| Jef91 | Sure sfeole - I'll be lurking for the better part of today. | 15:21 |
| mjrosenb | huh, was CONFIG_PERF_COUNTERS removed from the kernel? | 17:53 |
| mjrosenb | unrelatedly, is there a way to un-brick a chromebook that does not involve re-initializing all of chrome's state? | 18:47 |
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| mjrosenb | ok, I have built my own kernel, but I am not sure how to get a bootable uimage out of it | 19:57 |
| mjrosenb | oh, make uImage, evidently | 19:58 |
| vanhoof | mjrosenb: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7/ubuntu-nexus7/build_script | 20:03 |
| vanhoof | look at the abootimg bits | 20:03 |
| vanhoof | line 71 | 20:04 |
| vanhoof | mjrosenb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1445967/ | 20:06 |
| mjrosenb | make uimage sounds much easier | 20:06 |
| vanhoof | mjrosenb: likely, but just givin' ya whats easiest for me :) | 20:07 |
| mjrosenb | well, thank you for that | 20:07 |
| mjrosenb | hopefully, i'll remember that if i'm ever in a situation where that is more aprpriate than make uImage. | 20:08 |
| mjrosenb | tar -xzvf $TARBALL $packaged_path/initrd.img-$kver $packaged_path/vmlinuz-$kver | 20:19 |
| mjrosenb | that makes it look like the initrd is a tarball? | 20:19 |
| mjrosenb | oh no | 20:19 |
| mjrosenb | i am a fool $TARBALL is a tarball. it has two files in it | 20:19 |
| mjrosenb | vanhoof: you happen to know anything about perf? | 20:20 |
| Tassadar | did password/user in raring for nexus 7 changed? It says "Login incorrect" when I try ubuntu/ubuntu | 20:28 |
| vanhoof | Tassadar: should boot to oem-config | 20:31 |
| vanhoof | Tassadar: choose your own user/pass | 20:31 |
| Tassadar | yeah, it does not start GUI, it just stays in tty1, so I am trying to find out what is wrong | 20:31 |
| vanhoof | first boot is a bit slow | 20:32 |
| Tassadar | yeah, I know, but not 5-10 minutes slow | 20:32 |
| vanhoof | i sometimes see a few sec delay from tty1 to oem-config on vt7 (i assume) | 20:32 |
| vanhoof | yeah not that slow | 20:32 |
| vanhoof | oem/oem should get you in | 20:32 |
| vanhoof | but it should launch oem-config | 20:32 |
| Tassadar | well, it does not, so I am trying to log in to tty1 to find what went wrong | 20:34 |
| Tassadar | (it might not be [probably is not] ubuntu issue though) | 20:34 |
| Tassadar | well, I guess I'll just chroot into it from recovery and change the password/create my own user | 20:39 |
| mjrosenb | ok, different approach, does anyone have perf working on an omap4 running 12.10? | 20:42 |
| Tassadar | oh, yeah, I guess that read-only root is not such a great idea :) | 20:44 |
| mjrosenb | relatedly, I followed the directions at http://seabright.co.nz/2011/03/29/building-the-ubuntu-pandaboard-kernel/ -- how do I build an initrd now? | 20:46 |
| vanhoof | Tassadar: how did you flash the device | 20:54 |
| vanhoof | Tassadar: make sure cmdline is tty0 if you came from quantal | 20:55 |
| Tassadar | it's okay now | 20:55 |
| vanhoof | ah ok | 20:55 |
| Tassadar | onboard still does not show up in oem-config for me, though | 20:55 |
| vanhoof | fresh flash? | 20:55 |
| Tassadar | yeah, basically | 20:55 |
| vanhoof | i flashed friday on 8gb model, no issues w/ onboard | 20:55 |
| vanhoof | mjrosenb: played w/ perf on x86 not on arm, but should be in linux-tools binary wise | 20:58 |
| vanhoof | linux-tools-nexus7 iirc | 20:58 |
| Tassadar | all the ext4 partitions on my nexus7 has the same UUID, what the hell Oo | 21:09 |
| mjrosenb | vanhoof: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2002447 | 21:09 |
| vanhoof | mjrosenb: looks like we need | 21:10 |
| vanhoof | Fatal: No CONFIG_PERF_EVENTS=y kernel support configured? | 21:10 |
| vanhoof | mjrosenb: mind opening a bug against lp/ubuntu-nexus7 ? | 21:10 |
| mjrosenb | vanhoof: this is on a pandaboard. | 21:12 |
| mjrosenb | and; | 21:13 |
| mjrosenb | mrosenberg@panda:~$ grep CONFIG_PERF_EVENTS /boot/config-3.5.0-215-omap4 | 21:13 |
| mjrosenb | CONFIG_PERF_EVENTS=y | 21:13 |
| mjrosenb | so unless /boot/config-`uname -r` is out of sync with the kernel, I should have that. | 21:14 |
| vanhoof | ah i thought you were talking n7 | 21:14 |
| vanhoof | will have to look at omap4 | 21:15 |
| mjrosenb | I realize that the perf event system is basically totally hosed on omap4 | 21:15 |
| mjrosenb | but I just need the timer-based perf working | 21:16 |
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| Tassadar | vanhoof: could you please check which version of onboard is installed on your n7? | 21:27 |
| mjrosenb | so nobody uses a pandaboard in here/ | 21:28 |
| SailorMoon | lol | 21:29 |
| SailorMoon | How do i install the nightlies? | 21:29 |
| SailorMoon | i downloaded them in .gz format or whatever and every tool i have to open a .gz shows a .raw file | 21:30 |
| SailorMoon | i dunno how to get an .img from them | 21:30 |
| vanhoof | SailorMoon: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7/+archive/ubuntu-nexus7-installer | 21:43 |
| vanhoof | Tassadar: gimme a sec, charging atm | 21:43 |
| Tassadar | it looks like something crashes, because a while after I tap into the textfield, the windows lose the decorations (the title bar) | 21:45 |
| vanhoof | Tassadar: want an older nightly? | 21:47 |
| Tassadar | hmm, yeah, I suppose I could try that | 21:48 |
| vanhoof | i need to let this guy charge up for a bit | 21:48 |
| mjrosenb | speaking of which, does the upgrade process know how to upgrade the kernel on a chromebook | 21:48 |
| vanhoof | mjrosenb: doubtful | 21:49 |
| vanhoof | at least I dont think so | 21:49 |
| mjrosenb | and if not, I assume that I need to do it myself | 21:49 |
| vanhoof | i could be wrong | 21:49 |
| mjrosenb | is there a time of the week when people knowledgable about the pandaboard or chromebook would be online/ | 22:03 |
| vanhoof | mjrosenb: january 2nd? ;) | 22:03 |
| vanhoof | mjrosenb: not sure, no cb experience here myself | 22:03 |
| vanhoof | Tassadar: http://people.canonical.com/~vanhoof/tassadar/UbuntuNexus7.tar.gz | 22:07 |
| vanhoof | Tassadar: from thursday'ish last week | 22:07 |
| Tassadar | thanks | 22:07 |
| Tassadar | nah, does the exact same thing :( | 22:32 |
| vanhoof | :\ | 22:32 |
| vanhoof | i get through just fine | 22:33 |
| * vanhoof wtfs | 22:33 | |
| Tassadar | it is probably my fault, I am dual-booting it and probably got something wrong | 22:33 |
| Tassadar | seems kinda weird though, it is doing exactly the same thing as it did when it didn't work for anyone | 22:36 |
| inph^ | are there any nexus 7 ubuntu forums? | 23:01 |
| mjrosenb | checking whether the chosen combination of compiler flags (-march=armv6 -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=hard) works... configure: error: no | 23:19 |
| mjrosenb | :-/ | 23:19 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Do I want to know why you're targetting v6? | 23:26 |
| mjrosenb | infinity: because i have a raspberry pi. | 23:28 |
| infinity | (Though, that combination should work, in theory, it's what Raspbian uses) | 23:28 |
| infinity | I'd assume the configure test itself is doing something silly. | 23:28 |
| infinity | Like possibly tacking on a -mfpu=neon or something? :P | 23:28 |
| mjrosenb | configure:5745:1: sorry, unimplemented: Thumb-1 hard-float VFP ABI | 23:29 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Give it a -marm | 23:30 |
| mjrosenb | i already tried that, it produced executables that don't run :/ | 23:32 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Though, if you're cross-compiling from Ubuntu, you may find that you'll also end up compiling in static bits from our toolchain, which are v7/thumb-2, and it will all fail to run on the Pi anyway. | 23:32 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Jinx. :P | 23:32 |
| mjrosenb | ugh.. -march=armv6 should mean 'don't do that' | 23:33 |
| infinity | "Don't link the static bits that you need to run the binary" is a tall order. | 23:33 |
| infinity | libgcc_s, crt*.o, etc. | 23:33 |
| mjrosenb | i mean, how does a gcc that can target both x86 and x64 handle that? | 23:34 |
| infinity | Well, crt*.o should be pure ARMv5 or so, but you get my point. | 23:34 |
| infinity | biarch GCC relies on having two copies of everything. | 23:34 |
| infinity | As does our biarch armel/armhf GCC. | 23:34 |
| infinity | But ours was never designed to target older CPUs. | 23:34 |
| infinity | Just as a biarch Ubuntu x86 GCC can | 23:34 |
| infinity | 't actually build binaries for i386. | 23:34 |
| infinity | Well, probably not. Again, it depends on if any of the static bits use [456]86 instructions. | 23:35 |
| infinity | Which, in the ARM case, they do use v7 bits. | 23:35 |
| mjrosenb | this is a toolchain acquired from emdebian from well before ubuntu properly supported cross compilation | 23:36 |
| infinity | An armhf one though, right? | 23:36 |
| infinity | Debian's armhf has always been armv7-a/thumb-2 | 23:36 |
| mjrosenb | armel, with -mfloat-abi=hard | 23:37 |
| infinity | As has nearly everyone's, to be fair. Raspbian is one of the only strange attempts to do armhf on v6. | 23:37 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: Err, what? "armel with -mfloat-abi=hard" *is* armhf. | 23:37 |
| mjrosenb | what is the difference/ | 23:38 |
| mjrosenb | *difference? | 23:38 |
| infinity | Or do you mean this is an ancient compiler that was only armel? If so, you're producing binaries that don't run for other reasons. | 23:38 |
| infinity | Either because the static bits aren't armhf or because you're cooking in the wrong path to the PI. | 23:38 |
| infinity | What's the failure mode when you try to run the binaries? | 23:39 |
| mjrosenb | this compiler has been producing binaries that have worked on armv7el and armv7hf systems for quite some time. | 23:39 |
| mjrosenb | sigill | 23:39 |
| mjrosenb | looks like it is getting confused about thumb mode. | 23:39 |
| infinity | Or that it's compiling in some v7 bits. | 23:39 |
| mjrosenb | oh hey | 23:39 |
| mjrosenb | i am using the armhf compiler | 23:39 |
| infinity | This is a well-known problem among Pi people trying to cross from Ubuntu. | 23:40 |
| mjrosenb | sounds reasonable | 23:40 |
| infinity | You can manually copy various static bits like libgcc from your Raspbian system to your cross environment. | 23:40 |
| infinity | There's also a Raspbian cross toolchain. | 23:41 |
| infinity | That targets the right thing by default. | 23:42 |
| mjrosenb | yeah, as hacked as this system is, i don't like having programs installed that aren't managed by my package manager | 23:42 |
| mjrosenb | i'll have to find some way of making a .deb out of the cross toolchain | 23:43 |
| ubuntubhoy | does anyone here have any input on the Nexus 7 install wiki page ? | 23:58 |
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