| pitti | Good morning | 06:55 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:04 |
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| Noskcaj | balloons, should we add a run-once testcase for re-installing, ideally changing desktop environments. it is very buggy in 12.10 in my experience | 19:19 |
| balloons | Noskcaj, what do you mean? | 20:00 |
| Noskcaj | balloons, when you have any *buntu installed and you rn the installer of any that have the same architecture and version(e.g.12.10) you get the option to re-install ubuntu | 20:03 |
| Noskcaj | we should be testing that | 20:03 |
| Noskcaj | first time i did it in 12.10 it froze, second time it removed stuff like apt and the touchpad | 20:04 |
| Noskcaj | this was xubuntu to lubuntu | 20:05 |
| balloons | Noskcaj, yes we have a re-install testcase now | 20:07 |
| balloons | not between flavors | 20:07 |
| Noskcaj | oh | 20:07 |
| balloons | let me find it | 20:07 |
| balloons | and yes.. it was added this cycle for that reason | 20:07 |
| balloons | bugs last cycle :-) | 20:07 |
| balloons | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1471/info | 20:08 |
| Noskcaj | different thing, ht i'm talking about is meant to keep all your stuff | 20:08 |
| Noskcaj | *what | 20:08 |
| balloons | keeping home> | 20:09 |
| balloons | yes, that's in there | 20:09 |
| balloons | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1470/info | 20:09 |
| Noskcaj | http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu1210installation-large_003.jpg | 20:10 |
| Noskcaj | ooh, sorry, that is pretty much what i meant | 20:11 |
| Noskcaj | but i don't think manual partitioning is necessary and it should keep installed apps as well | 20:11 |
| balloons | what do you mean? | 20:13 |
| balloons | those two cases cover the scenarios I think | 20:13 |
| balloons | if they don't then, :-) We can make sure it's covered | 20:13 |
| Noskcaj | as you can see in the photo it is meant to keep apps, settings and any files the same | 20:14 |
| letozaf_ | howdy | 20:15 |
| balloons | howdy | 20:15 |
| balloons | we're talking about the re-install stuff | 20:15 |
| balloons | the testcases for it | 20:15 |
| letozaf_ | oh! what's the matter ? | 20:16 |
| Noskcaj | i will repost the basics for letozaf_ to see | 20:17 |
| Noskcaj | http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu1210installation-large_003.jpg | 20:17 |
| Noskcaj | i don't think manual partitioning is necessary and it should keep installed apps, setting and files as well | 20:17 |
| Noskcaj | the current testcase is at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1470/info | 20:18 |
| letozaf_ | well I think the only way to be sure is to try it out on a VM | 20:19 |
| letozaf_ | have you guys already tried it? | 20:20 |
| Noskcaj | nope, i just know its really buggy in 12.10 | 20:20 |
| Noskcaj | first time i did it in 12.10 it froze, second time it removed stuff like apt and the touchpad. this was xubuntu to lubuntu | 20:20 |
| letozaf_ | buggy? where? | 20:20 |
| Noskcaj | so i did a clean install | 20:20 |
| Noskcaj | i think swapping desktop environments may have done it | 20:21 |
| letozaf_ | Now that I think about it saturday I carried out this test and it was ok | 20:23 |
| Noskcaj | did you have any programs installed, or changed settings? | 20:23 |
| Noskcaj | and was that just ubuntu to ubuntu | 20:23 |
| letozaf_ | I started from a clean install, created a folder on the desktop and browsed a fiew sites | 20:24 |
| letozaf_ | when I reinstalled like indicated in the testcase and rebooted | 20:24 |
| letozaf_ | the file was still there and the browser's history too | 20:24 |
| balloons | sorry.. | 20:25 |
| * balloons reads backlog | 20:25 | |
| balloons | too many channels | 20:25 |
| letozaf_ | :-D | 20:25 |
| Noskcaj | ok, so the testcase isn't quite covering everything | 20:25 |
| balloons | ok, so yes as letozaf_ said, Ire-install should work | 20:25 |
| balloons | Noskcaj, your saying if you have a true /home partition and you re-install it's not working for you? | 20:26 |
| balloons | that's something I do quite often actually | 20:26 |
| balloons | if I'm ever re-installing (say my main box), I just re-use my home | 20:26 |
| balloons | never had issues with it | 20:26 |
| letozaf_ | I also often reinstall Ubuntu and keep my home | 20:26 |
| balloons | so the question is, what about the 2 testcases don't cover that scenario | 20:27 |
| balloons | or am I missing something, and you have a different scenario? | 20:27 |
| balloons | the switching flavors I don't believe should cause an issue, but I wouldn't do it via the re-install | 20:27 |
| letozaf_ | if Noskcaj tells us the details we can try to reproduce his problem | 20:27 |
| balloons | manual partitioning preserving home should work | 20:27 |
| letozaf_ | maybe there is something "strange" we do not know about, maybe he found a new bug... | 20:28 |
| Noskcaj | so i had xubuntu on for maybe 2 months, many settings changed, apps added and 50gb of iso's and movies. and i have told you the rest already | 20:29 |
| Noskcaj | i will be back soon, need food | 20:30 |
| letozaf_ | well I always reinstall Ubuntu I never tried with xubuntu, maybe we could try to see if xbuntu behaves differently | 20:30 |
| balloons | I agree switching flavors via re-install might cause an issue | 20:31 |
| balloons | the question is, is it a "supported" idea or not | 20:31 |
| balloons | ok Noskcaj grab some chow, I'll be around | 20:31 |
| letozaf_ | chow ? | 20:31 |
| letozaf_ | we haven't got that in Itlay, I think ... | 20:31 |
| balloons | thought I'd try a new word for food.. | 20:32 |
| balloons | see if letozaf_ got confused or not ;-p | 20:32 |
| letozaf_ | google say's chow is a dog ... lol | 20:32 |
| balloons | lol | 20:33 |
| balloons | it's slang for food | 20:33 |
| balloons | in general.. | 20:33 |
| letozaf_ | yeah got it ... now! | 20:33 |
| balloons | it's pronounced like ciao | 20:33 |
| balloons | which is fun | 20:33 |
| letozaf_ | oh! that's weired :-D | 20:33 |
| letozaf_ | so when I say hallo to someone in Italian he might think I said food | 20:34 |
| letozaf_ | well if he is english :) | 20:34 |
| letozaf_ | I mean american or ozzy | 20:34 |
| balloons | haha | 20:36 |
| balloons | I think ciao is fairly well recognized by american english speakers | 20:36 |
| letozaf_ | I was joking :) just having fun | 20:37 |
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| Noskcaj | letozaf_, its aussie | 20:42 |
| letozaf_ | oh !!! sorry !!! | 20:44 |
| letozaf_ | think I got confused with ozzy osbourne , maybe lol | 20:44 |
| Noskcaj | ok? | 20:45 |
| balloons | lol.. | 20:45 |
| balloons | well, your from nz | 20:45 |
| balloons | we would call that land of oz | 20:45 |
| balloons | or perhaps ozzy | 20:45 |
| letozaf_ | :) | 20:46 |
| Noskcaj | balloons, to all of that; WTF? | 20:46 |
| balloons | Noskcaj, I've no idea mate | 20:46 |
| balloons | lost in translation.. | 20:47 |
| balloons | so your test issues | 20:47 |
| Noskcaj | just make the testcase include settings changes, extra apps and ideally desktop changes | 20:47 |
| Noskcaj | also remove the need for manual partitioning | 20:48 |
| balloons | so you want things added to the "make changes portion" | 20:48 |
| balloons | right now, it's about browsing history and installing some stuff I believe | 20:48 |
| balloons | suggestions for other things? | 20:48 |
| balloons | wallpaper? | 20:48 |
| letozaf_ | it doesn't make any difference | 20:50 |
| Noskcaj | yeah, i hadn't thought of that, wallpaper, maybe conky on the desktop as i can see that causing issues | 20:50 |
| letozaf_ | I mean that whatever change, there are so many .. | 20:50 |
| letozaf_ | as long as the testcase doesn't become too long | 20:50 |
| Noskcaj | letozaf_, it won't at worst it will just become "run this script" then after the reinstall, "run another script | 20:51 |
| letozaf_ | maybe we could install an application and change a setting and see if that is still there after reboot | 20:51 |
| Noskcaj | so mearg automated testing and the iso's | 20:51 |
| Noskcaj | *merge | 20:52 |
| Noskcaj | and everyone goes silent for some reason | 21:01 |
| letozaf_ | oh! sorry ... | 21:02 |
| letozaf_ | ok the merge stuff sounds good | 21:03 |
| Noskcaj | i have a basic script made that need finishing by people who know stuff about the command line | 21:03 |
| Noskcaj | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446068/ is my very basic attempt | 21:05 |
| letozaf_ | let's see it, not sure I'm the right person to help, but never know... | 21:05 |
| Noskcaj | letozaf_, thanks, now i just need someone to confirm they are still there after the reinstall | 21:06 |
| * letozaf_ trying to see what I can do | 21:13 | |
| Noskcaj | so you know youtube-dl is a tiny command line package for downloading videos off the internet, it is very easy to test the presence of | 21:14 |
| letozaf_ | you mean you want to test it's presence by using it ? | 21:18 |
| letozaf_ | I was thinking of checking if it still was installed | 21:18 |
| Noskcaj | that would be one way, i'm not entirely sure | 21:18 |
| Noskcaj | second idea is better | 21:18 |
| letozaf_ | not sure I can change settings using command line | 21:19 |
| letozaf_ | but I can check if a file created still exists | 21:19 |
| Noskcaj | either way, its a small program. which will help | 21:19 |
| Noskcaj | letozaf_, close enough. there must be some setting change-able | 21:19 |
| Noskcaj | maybe by editing a file? | 21:20 |
| letozaf_ | no with if [ -f /tmp/file1 ] && [ -f /tmp/file2 ] && [ -f /tmp/file3 ] && [ -f /tmp/file4 ] | 21:21 |
| Noskcaj | i have to go now, i will leave xchat open to hear what people say | 21:21 |
| Noskcaj | and WTF is that | 21:21 |
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| letozaf_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446104/ | 21:22 |
| Noskcaj_school | much better, that will help | 21:23 |
| Noskcaj_school | bye | 21:23 |
| balloons | sorry, had an interruption | 21:32 |
| balloons | had to be afk for a few | 21:32 |
| letozaf_ | Noskcaj_school, I can do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446125/ | 21:33 |
| letozaf_ | do not know how to change settings using command line | 21:34 |
| balloons | letozaf_, that would work, but the files in /tmp, by design would no longer be there | 21:37 |
| letozaf_ | yes you're right! forgot about reboot | 21:37 |
| balloons | because /tmp empties reboot | 21:37 |
| balloons | ;-) | 21:37 |
| letozaf_ | so we will put them in /home | 21:37 |
| balloons | yes | 21:37 |
| letozaf_ | do not know how to do the settings stuff, maye if we find some .config files to check or something like that | 21:39 |
| letozaf_ | I'm going to bed now guys... if you need, send me an email I will read it tomorrow morning :-D | 21:43 |
| balloons | letozaf_, good night | 21:43 |
| balloons | not sure how the script idea works out, but if we want to use one, what you've done is an excellent sart | 21:43 |
| balloons | *start | 21:43 |
| letozaf_ | balloons, thanks :) | 21:44 |
| letozaf_ | good night! | 21:44 |
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