[13:17] <xnox> jodh: can you please make https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/+recipe/upstart-daily-nonvirt recipe be owned by canonical-foundations such that more of us can re-trigger it. 
[13:17] <xnox> And can you please re-trigger it? with latest stgraber's fix it should finally build & pass =)
[13:17] <jodh> xnox: done
[13:18] <xnox> jodh: \o/
[14:13] <xnox> stgraber:  jodh: deja-dup "case" for user-on-boot https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/deja-dup/raring/view/head:/monitor/README
[16:05] <toabctl> xnox, why don't you merge the libnih-gtk-doc stuff into lp:libnih ? 
[16:06] <xnox> toabctl: because noone can merge into lp:libnih =) we are locked out of it.
[16:06] <xnox> toabctl: I will fix it up & merge it into lp:~canonical-foundations/libnih/nih & into ubuntu package
[16:06] <toabctl> xnox, because scott is still the maintainer?
[16:06] <xnox> toabctl: yes.
[16:06] <toabctl> xnox, ok
[16:07] <toabctl> xnox, you wote a mail to scott already to fix the situation?
[16:07] <xnox> toabctl: but lp:~canonical-foundations/libnih/nih is what /foundations/ are proposing to become lp:libnih.
[16:07] <toabctl> so lp:libnih is obsolete?
[16:07] <xnox> toabctl: yes, we did. The solution was to move the devel focus to a new branch which has /new/ stuff which is the libnih/nih branch.
[16:07] <xnox> toabctl: so soon it will move.
[16:08] <toabctl> ok. thanks for the info
[16:08] <xnox> toabctl: in a way the scott's branch is obsolete, because it is missing at least 3-4 important fixes that are present in libnih/nih branch and lp:ubuntu/libnih.
[16:52] <ajohnstone> I'm failing to understand why upstart doesn't seem work work correctly with the following... I never see 'echo "" >> /tmp/xxxxxxxx' write a file am I missing something..
[17:11] <xnox> ajohnstone: can you paste a full job file?
[17:11] <xnox> stgraber: jodh: here be dragons http://paste.ubuntu.com/1445637/
[17:12] <jodh> xnox: shiny! :)
[17:13] <stgraber> xnox: nice! I guess --session is a bit redundant though :)
[17:13] <xnox> stgraber: /me can patch in "if (session || user_mode)" :P
[17:14] <stgraber> yeah, that's probably the right thing to do for now, we certainly don't want --user to try to bind the system bus
[17:15] <ajohnstone> xnox: Think I figured it out, "pre-start script" was not executing with "exec"
[17:24] <xnox> stgraber: jodh: fill in upstart sprint summary for day 1 in http://pad.ubuntu.com/j5DPzIp5KP
[17:28] <jodh> xnox: thanks - updated.
[19:16] <wakko> hi
[19:32] <wakko> when udevtrigger is done, is it normal to receive only *-*-changed events and no *-*-added events ?
[19:37] <wakko> ok i got it
[19:37] <wakko> it's not like the man says, at least with my version of udev, i need to "udevadm trigger --action=add" instead of "udevadm trigger"
[20:44] <slangasek> xnox: so, has anyone talked to Scott since these merge proposals have been raised, to find out if he still considers himself upstream or wants to hand it over?
[20:45] <slangasek> wakko: hmm, the manpage may leave it ambiguous, but the 'udevtrigger' job in Ubuntu also calls 'udevadm trigger --action=add'
[20:45] <wakko> slangasek: my job was based on an old ubuntu
[20:45] <slangasek> ok
[20:46] <slangasek> I would certainly recommend starting from a recent ubuntu :)
[20:46] <wakko> 10.04 fyi
[20:46] <wakko> sure :)
[20:52] <stgraber> slangasek: currently the idea is to do a full review of the changes we are carrying, land all of that in an alternative branch with proper tests, then ask Scott to either pull from that (if he wants to remain the upstream) or set this new branch as the upstream trunk (if he doesn't want to remain the upstream)
[20:56] <slangasek> ok
[21:04] <slangasek> stgraber: btw, lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-shell-paths - why would the same test yield a shell on the ppa builders, but not on the distro builders?
[21:04] <slangasek> i.e., won't this cause a regression now on the distro builds, where we were *not* able to see this PWD=/ ?
[21:08] <stgraber> slangasek: it's not a distro vs ppa, it's an archive vs daily kind of problem
[21:09] <stgraber> slangasek: the daily packages are native packages, so when unpacked it creates a directory containing the full version string, including the ~
[21:09] <stgraber> slangasek: and the presence of the ~ in the command, makes upstart call a shell
[21:09] <slangasek> oh, haha
[21:10] <slangasek> got it
[21:10] <slangasek> well caught :)
[21:10] <stgraber> yeah, took a bit to figure it out ;)