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| baegle | About to install Xubuntu for the first time. I'm looking at the full disk encryption option and it's telling me (a) I'll need to put the password in every time the computer starts and (b) "short password" no matter how long the password is. Will I really need it on every boot? | 03:27 |
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| v1adimir | mixed case with a number for the password?.. | 03:32 |
| Unit193 | Full disk encryption, you'll need the password to dycrypt it. Do you honestly need this option? You should be able to encrypt your home dir if you'd rather. | 03:34 |
| Qasim | hi | 03:34 |
| v1adimir | plus the partition should be zeroed and all that b4 the encryption anyway, to do it properly | 03:35 |
| Unit193 | !hi | Qasim | 03:35 |
| ubottu | Qasim: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 03:35 |
| Unit193 | v1adimir: Or dban. ;) | 03:35 |
| Qasim | i have installed SAMBA on my xubuntu...but i still can't share folders over my LAN | 03:36 |
| Qasim | please help me | 03:36 |
| v1adimir | Unit193: right :) | 03:36 |
| Unit193 | Qasim: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html ? | 03:37 |
| baegle | It's a small laptop, I'm involved in a major federal lawsuit, I'm a principal in 3 companies, and I deal with client information sometimes. I don't need plausible deniability, so I figure I don't need to write garbage to the whole disk. | 03:37 |
| Qasim | let me chk that link | 03:39 |
| v1adimir | oh sorz 2 go on about it, but 0 (and all the good stuff) is also against decrypting (btw) | 03:40 |
| baegle | even on a brand new hdd? | 03:40 |
| Unit193 | Meh, not really needed. Seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome ? | 03:40 |
| baegle | Unit193: Then I sort of have to remember to always leave all my work in my home. Won't I have to be concerned with /tmp/, swap, proc, and anything I do in /var/ ? | 03:42 |
| well_laid_lawn | if you're really paranoid just use a live cd so nothing is saved | 03:44 |
| Scotts87 | today is my first day on Xubuntu!!! Love it so far | 03:47 |
| baegle | well_laid_lawn: As I said, I'm not involved in criminal activity and I don't need plausible deniability. I'm just looking for strong + convenient. As a dev, I think having to keep everything in /home/ is inconvenient. Only using a live cd is even more so. | 03:49 |
| StormyKeys | Using a Sony Vaio Laptop 8yrs old - changed from Ubuntu to Xubuntu - now downloads are 20-30% slower as everything else . Any help here ? | 03:52 |
| StormyKeys | Sorry Desktop | 03:53 |
| Qasim | Unit193 ..im unable to edit smb.conf file...when i try to save it it says overwrite denied or something | 03:55 |
| Unit193 | Qasim: You need to edit that file as root. | 03:56 |
| Qasim | and how to do it? | 03:56 |
| Qasim | sorry im so dumb when i have to make changes in my xubuntu | 03:57 |
| v1adimir | sudo leafpad /etc/smb.conf | 03:57 |
| Unit193 | What text editor? | 03:57 |
| Qasim | thx | 03:57 |
| Unit193 | gksudo for GUI. | 03:57 |
| Unit193 | !gksudo | 03:57 |
| ubottu | If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) | 03:57 |
| v1adimir | blah sorz | 03:58 |
| Unit193 | Nah, just one of those fun things. | 03:58 |
| Qasim | okay | 03:58 |
| Abhijit | hello. | 05:33 |
| Abhijit | what are the default settings of xubuntu xfce? i want to apply them to opensuse xfce. | 05:33 |
| holstein | Abhijit: i would just look in .config ...maybe just grab them from a live CD.. i wouldnt expect everything to "just work" | 05:34 |
| Abhijit | ok. holstein where is the gui settings programs of xfce stored? what is its name? | 05:35 |
| Abhijit | holstein, i want to make dock hide below all maximized window. how can i do it? | 05:35 |
| holstein | Abhijit: i would just look in .config | 05:35 |
| Abhijit | ok :-( | 05:35 |
| holstein | Abhijit: the settings may not be the same for sus | 05:35 |
| holstein | suse* | 05:35 |
| Abhijit | yeah | 05:35 |
| holstein | Abhijit: there is not a dock.. there is a panel | 05:36 |
| Abhijit | there is a dock. | 05:36 |
| Abhijit | in default xfce. | 05:36 |
| Abhijit | at the bottom. | 05:36 |
| holstein | Abhijit: thats a panel | 05:37 |
| holstein | Abhijit: those settings will be in .config somewhere for the panels.. | 05:37 |
| Abhijit | ok | 05:37 |
| holstein | Abhijit: you right click on the panel and go to auto-hide settings... | 05:37 |
| Abhijit | yeah right click and there is setting menu | 05:38 |
| Abhijit | what is the name of default xubuntu theme? | 05:59 |
| ms__ | Hi folks!!! I want that the info of music which I'm listening in amarok will be shown in my pidgin status. The plugin "Music Tracker" is already checked in pidgin | 08:28 |
| er1c_d32 | do you guys have favorite Thunar "custom action" scripts or commands you use regularly? | 10:43 |
| xubuntu689 | hey all | 10:44 |
| xubuntu689 | I found a serious bug in 12.10, where is the best place to report it? | 10:44 |
| knome | xubuntu689, can you first shed a light what that serious bug is about? | 10:45 |
| xubuntu689 | when I press Shift + Page Down an infinite number of Screenshot windows are spawned until the system crashes | 10:47 |
| knome | xubuntu689, file a bug in launchpad | 10:48 |
| xubuntu689 | which project should I file it under? | 10:49 |
| xubuntu689 | "Xubuntu" on Launchpad doesn't allow bug reports? | 10:55 |
| ochosi | xubuntu689: you'd probably file that bug against xfce4-screenshooter | 11:04 |
| ochosi | you can also do that upstream at bugs.xfce.org if you want | 11:05 |
| ochosi | would be the direct way | 11:05 |
| xubuntu689 | ah thanks :) | 11:06 |
| Qasim | hi | 12:51 |
| GridCube | !hi | Qasim | 12:52 |
| ubottu | Qasim: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 12:52 |
| Qasim | i have sony vaio vgn-fs 415m (old laptop) with Nvidea GE Force 6400 graphics card...i can stream videos online properly but not my stored videos | 12:53 |
| Qasim | please help | 12:53 |
| Qasim | my os is xubuntu 12.10 | 12:53 |
| Qasim | can any one help me find the solution..... | 12:59 |
| GridCube | Qasim, do you have installed xubuntu-restricted-extras ? | 13:02 |
| CrazyZurfer | Hi, when I used to plug an ipod to the computer, it used to be mounted automatically, but now I doesn't even appear in Nautilus | 13:02 |
| GridCube | !ipod | crawlerz | 13:02 |
| ubottu | crawlerz: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod | 13:02 |
| GridCube | !ipod | CrazyZurfer | 13:02 |
| ubottu | CrazyZurfer: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod | 13:02 |
| CrazyZurfer | I mean the file manager | 13:02 |
| GridCube | CrazyZurfer, thats to be expected, ipods are privative to the EXTREEEME | 13:03 |
| CrazyZurfer | I've got it jailbroken, and Before I used to work, before installing XFCE | 13:03 |
| Qasim | restricted extras? | 13:04 |
| GridCube | well, sorry about that, ask on some gnome channel CrazyZurfer i dont know about nautilus | 13:04 |
| GridCube | !restricted | Qasim | 13:04 |
| ubottu | Qasim: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 13:04 |
| CrazyZurfer | GridCube: I mean, not Nautilus, i mean the default file manager | 13:05 |
| GridCube | oh, thunar | 13:05 |
| Qasim | no i havent | 13:05 |
| CrazyZurfer | GridCube: Sorry xD | 13:05 |
| GridCube | Qasim, well, you go and do that | 13:05 |
| GridCube | CrazyZurfer, oh okay let me research | 13:05 |
| Qasim | it asking me to remove two other codecs...should i di that? | 13:06 |
| Qasim | do* | 13:06 |
| CrazyZurfer | It's supposed that Xubuntu should work the same as ubuntu, am I right? | 13:06 |
| Qasim | nopes | 13:06 |
| Qasim | xubuntu i different | 13:06 |
| GridCube | CrazyZurfer, try mounting the ipod with gigolo | 13:07 |
| GridCube | CrazyZurfer, sometimes, yes | 13:07 |
| CrazyZurfer | daf*ck is gigolo --> It means male prostitution xD | 13:08 |
| CrazyZurfer | !gigolo | 13:08 |
| GridCube | yep it mounts everything | 13:09 |
| torax | :D | 13:10 |
| Qasim | grid i have installed restd extras still problem remains | 13:14 |
| CrazyZurfer | GridCube: may I get gigolo by apt-get? | 13:16 |
| GridCube | CrazyZurfer, its already there | 13:16 |
| GridCube | on >(mouse logo)>system | 13:17 |
| GridCube | or alt-f2: gigolo | 13:17 |
| Qasim | Grid :( | 13:17 |
| GridCube | q | 13:17 |
| GridCube | what seems to be the problem now? | 13:17 |
| CrazyZurfer | GridCube: cool, It works! | 13:18 |
| Qasim | same problem....i can play videos..quality is okay...but speed is very slow | 13:18 |
| GridCube | :) | 13:18 |
| Qasim | video stops a 100 times in a second | 13:19 |
| GridCube | Qasim, try using smplayer, sudo apt-get install smplayer --no-install-recommends | 13:19 |
| Qasim | okay | 13:19 |
| GridCube | i dont know if smplayer still pulls much qt crap, i think it doesnt | 13:19 |
| Qasim | let me copy the command | 13:19 |
| Qasim | sm player crashes when i try to open / play a video through it | 13:23 |
| Qasim | i have vlc player it also doesnot play videos properly | 13:24 |
| Qasim | dont you think it some display/graphic card driver prob? | 13:25 |
| Qasim | it is some* | 13:26 |
| GridCube | thats wrong | 13:26 |
| Qasim | hmm | 13:26 |
| Qasim | then ? | 13:26 |
| GridCube | Qasim, go to a terminal and type mplayer /path/to/video.format | 13:27 |
| Qasim | okay | 13:27 |
| GridCube | Qasim, and? | 13:29 |
| Qasim | qasim@VGN-FS415M:~$ mplayer /path/to/video.format MPlayer2 UNKNOWN (C) 2000-2012 MPlayer Team mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing /path/to/video.format. File not found: '/path/to/video.format' Failed to open /path/to/video.format. Exiting... (End of file) qasim@VGN-FS415M:~$ | 13:30 |
| GridCube | welll that was silly of you Qasim | 13:30 |
| GridCube | silly as silly can be | 13:30 |
| Qasim | erm | 13:31 |
| Qasim | :( | 13:31 |
| GridCube | /path/to/video.format was an example | 13:31 |
| GridCube | to the path, you must follow to the video you want to see | 13:31 |
| Qasim | hmm | 13:31 |
| GridCube | for example /home/qasim/Videos/a.video.qasim.wants.to.see.mkv.avi.mp4 | 13:31 |
| Qasim | lol ok | 13:32 |
| GridCube | also Qasim please use pastebin for pasting text outputs | 13:33 |
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| Qasim | qasim@VGN-FS415M:~$ mplayer /home/qasim/Documents/movies/ryan.mkv MPlayer2 UNKNOWN (C) 2000-2012 MPlayer Team mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing /home/qasim/Documents/movies/ryan.mkv. File not found: '/home/qasim/Documents/movies/ryan.mkv' Failed to open /home/qasim/Documents/movies/ryan.mkv. Exiting... (End | 13:42 |
| Qasim | grid.... | 13:43 |
| Qasim | !display drivers | 13:47 |
| Yotson | Qasim: your running out of irc cred fast. Use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ or so. ;) | 13:47 |
| GridCube | Qasim, you wrote the path wrong | 13:47 |
| GridCube | !tab | Qasim | 13:47 |
| ubottu | Qasim: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. | 13:47 |
| GridCube | it says right there "file not found" | 13:48 |
| GridCube | so that output means nothing like the previous one | 13:48 |
| Qasim | hmmm | 13:48 |
| GridCube | and please use paste.ubuntu.com | 13:49 |
| Qasim | what is the use of paste bin and what is cred fast? | 13:51 |
| Yotson | pasting more than a couple of lines in channel is not that nice. go to pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com, paste in your text, paste link to that in here. | 13:53 |
| megatorus | hi - yesterday i made a xubuntu 12.04.1 liveusb from the official x86 iso, and used it to install on a box running windows, to make a dual-boot system. | 14:11 |
| megatorus | however, the grub bootloader was installed on the usb stick, and not on the main hd! | 14:11 |
| megatorus | the rest of the os installed on the disk... but in order to be able to boot i now need to have the usb stick in, so it sees grub and gives me the option to boot linux | 14:12 |
| megatorus | without the stick, it just goes to booting windows. | 14:13 |
| megatorus | just wondering, is it a known problem that xubuntu doesn't put grub on the correct drive? | 14:13 |
| GridCube | it should | 14:20 |
| GridCube | i always use pendrives and that never happened to me | 14:21 |
| GridCube | megatorus, put the pendrive and boot to xubuntu. then install boot-repair and fix it | 14:21 |
| megatorus | GridCube: ah, that sounds easy enough. :) didn't know that existed. | 14:24 |
| megatorus | my googling revealed suggestions to boot from a usb stick and then do some manual grub-installing on the hd... but seeing as how my only usb stick was no longer standalone-bootable i thought i'd have to go get another one. :) | 14:25 |
| GridCube | it does, because grub is weird sometimes | 14:25 |
| megatorus | so boot-repair will be able to install grub on the hd, even though i'm booting from usbsticgrub -> hd? | 14:26 |
| GridCube | once you are in your proper system, remove the pendrive before runing boot-repair, it "should" be fine | 14:26 |
| GridCube | it should. i cant promise that i would | 14:26 |
| megatorus | haha sure, i understand the hedge :) | 14:26 |
| megatorus | and it will automagically detect the windows partition and set up grub for dual-boot, too? | 14:27 |
| megatorus | (or at least have the option for me to tell it?) | 14:27 |
| GridCube | yes it will | 14:27 |
| GridCube | boot-repair its a little sorcery gem of the computamantic worlds | 14:28 |
| megatorus | great. thanks for your help - i'll give it a try next time i'm at that box. (for now, i just left the usb stick in :) ) | 14:28 |
| megatorus | i'll try to remember to let you know how it went. ;) will likely be around ... end of january. heh | 14:29 |
| monique | wat is hier de beste mode | 16:46 |
| GridCube | !de | 16:47 |
| ubottu | In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 16:47 |
| monique | sorry ik spreek geen engels want ik heb het nooit geleerd | 16:47 |
| GridCube | sorry, i dont understand you | 16:48 |
| qasim | hi | 16:49 |
| GridCube | hi | 16:51 |
| kevinw | hi | 16:51 |
| GridCube | hi | 16:52 |
| qasim | hi GridCube ... i tried to rum smplayer through terminal but it again crashed | 17:07 |
| GridCube | qasim, you never pasted the output of mplayer | 17:07 |
| GridCube | qasim, use tab to autocomplete filenames | 17:07 |
| GridCube | and put the right path to the video file on the mplayer command | 17:08 |
| qasim | okay let me do that now ..wait please | 17:08 |
| qasim | qasim@VGN-FS415M:~$ mplayer /home/qasim/Documents/movies/ryan/ryan.mkv | 17:09 |
| qasim | MPlayer2 UNKNOWN (C) 2000-2012 MPlayer Team | 17:09 |
| qasim | mplayer: could not connect to socket | 17:09 |
| qasim | mplayer: No such file or directory | 17:09 |
| qasim | Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. | 17:09 |
| qasim | Playing /home/qasim/Documents/movies/ryan/ryan.mkv. | 17:09 |
| qasim | [mkv] Track ID 1: video (V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC), -vid 0 | 17:09 |
| qasim | MPlayer interrupted by signal 4 in module: demux_open | 17:09 |
| qasim | - MPlayer crashed by an 'Illegal Instruction'. | 17:09 |
| qasim | It usually happens when you run it on a CPU different than the one it was | 17:09 |
| qasim | compiled/optimized for. | 17:09 |
| qasim | Verify this! | 17:09 |
| qasim | - MPlayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/FPU/RAM. | 17:09 |
| qasim | Recompile MPlayer with --enable-debug and make a 'gdb' backtrace and | 17:09 |
| qasim | disassembly. Details in DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports_what.html#bugreports_crash. | 17:09 |
| qasim | - MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen. | 17:09 |
| qasim | It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your drivers _or_ in your | 17:09 |
| qasim | gcc version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault, please read | 17:09 |
| qasim | DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html and follow the instructions there. We can't and | 17:10 |
| qasim | won't help unless you provide this information when reporting a possible bug. | 17:10 |
| qasim | qasim@VGN-FS415M:~$ | 17:10 |
| baizon | qasim: please use paste.ubuntu.com for this messages | 17:10 |
| GridCube | qasim, | 17:10 |
| GridCube | we told you alredy, use pastebin | 17:10 |
| GridCube | you will be silenced if you do this again for a few minutes | 17:10 |
| GridCube | qasim, please ask on #mplayer , pass them a pastebin to this error log and the output of the --enable-debug like the dump suggest, remember to use pastebin, they should know more | 17:17 |
| GridCube | (im assuming that you did already installed xubuntu-restricted-extras) | 17:17 |
| baizon | i see its a known bug | 17:17 |
| baizon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/1073570 | 17:17 |
| qasim | yeah i did | 17:17 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1073570 in Medibuntu "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: demux_open" [Undecided,New] | 17:17 |
| qasim | i installed | 17:17 |
| baizon | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034075&page=49 | 17:18 |
| GridCube | i see its a recurrent bug | 17:18 |
| baizon | but didnt find any sollution for this at the moment | 17:18 |
| nyRednek | hey, if i use a few subdomain redirects from, say, afraid.org, can i configure apache to respond differently depending on the redirect? | 20:36 |
| knome | afaik apache supports referrer-filtering, but you'd want to refer to their documentation - and your server administration (if it isn't you) if that's possible | 20:37 |
| nyRednek | knome: it's a vps, so i'm guessing administration is me | 20:40 |
| Unit193 | Most of the time that means you, unless it's a "managed" VPS (I think) | 20:42 |
| nyRednek | yeah, was wondering if just setting up virtual hosts in apache would do the trick | 20:43 |
| nyRednek | cause it's a direct subdomain to ip translation | 20:44 |
| Unit193 | vhost is rednek.afraid.org. | 20:44 |
| aperson | does anyone else have the problem where xfce's menu sometimes uses larger versions of icons and they look out of place? | 20:44 |
| aperson | http://i.imgur.com/nfJGF.png example of what I mean | 20:45 |
| knome | aperson, that's most probably a bug in the package/source of the game | 20:46 |
| aperson | that happens for quite a few programs | 20:46 |
| aperson | that only being an example | 20:46 |
| knome | can you name a few more examples then? | 20:46 |
| Unit193 | Are they all from the Ubuntu repos? | 20:46 |
| aperson | some are, some are from ppas | 20:47 |
| aperson | gcolor2, bpython, idle, to name a few are also experiencing this | 20:47 |
| aperson | xfce also refuses to use my icon theme | 20:47 |
| knome | most probably bugs in the packages | 20:48 |
| nyRednek | it's actually something else...but that's the idea | 20:48 |
| aperson | in any case, the menu shouldn't allow that to happen | 20:48 |
| knome | aperson, probably not, but the fix is easier done on the packages, so you should contact their maintainers | 20:49 |
| knome | it's good practice to try to be nice for other developers too (that's why it'd make more sense if the packages were fixed) | 20:49 |
| Unit193 | nyRednek: Yep, that should be pretty easy to do, I have paste.mydomain.tld in another httpd do pretty much what it sounds like you want to do. | 20:50 |
| aperson | I'd chance to say that if they didn't do it appropriately now, they wouldn't care to fix it just for xfce. I'll try to contact the developers, but I don't expect much | 20:51 |
| knome | aperson, that's not about xfce. it's about shipping correct icons for systems to use anyway | 20:51 |
| aperson | right | 20:51 |
| aperson | but some of these packages I know will not be fixed | 20:52 |
| aperson | and when it's a matter that could be fixed by the menu just resizing the icon, it seems simpler to just ask that it does that | 20:52 |
| knome | that's sad. but anyway, if it bugs you, you should be able to fix it yourself. i doubt the xfce menu will be pathced because other developers are reluctant to fi a simple icon :) | 20:52 |
| knome | not really... | 20:53 |
| aperson | it's easier to bug one group than dozens | 20:53 |
| knome | the icon themes have specific size icons and a specification how that works for a reason | 20:53 |
| Unit193 | Could be able to fix it, then send them a "patch" | 20:53 |
| aperson | Unit193⤜ I am a user, I CBA to fix anything. Only report | 20:53 |
| knome | the problem wouldn't exist, if the developers of the apps shipped one scalable icon | 20:54 |
| aperson | knome⤜ two sides of the coin | 20:54 |
| aperson | problem would also not exist if the menu resized icons | 20:54 |
| aperson | you can argue either way | 20:55 |
| knome | yeah, but that (most probably) isn't going to happen, because the xfce menu is already following a spec. | 20:55 |
| knome | you could argue the spec is broken, but it's a long road to fix the spec, get everybody following the new spec and getting the new code done. | 20:55 |
| aperson | and it's hard for me (a single use) to contact dozens of maintainers to get them to fix anything. we're all arguing things that will never happen | 20:56 |
| aperson | I suppose I have my answer then | 20:56 |
| knome | then fix it for your own system | 20:56 |
| aperson | no | 20:57 |
| knome | then live with it :) | 20:57 |
| knome | open source is a doacracy, not a democracy | 20:57 |
| knome | those who do, decide (what they do) | 20:57 |
| aperson | and if you want people to use it, you can't expect everyone to go fix everything themeselves. | 20:57 |
| Unit193 | And while that most of the time is a pain, or unusable, pretty sure gthumb and editing the image would fix this one. | 20:58 |
| aperson | the simple fact is: it doesn't work as expected, so I won't use it | 20:58 |
| drc | Personally, I could care less if you use anything...that's your problem. | 20:58 |
| aperson | ah, so you care, drc | 20:58 |
| knome | i've provided you the simplest way to fix this (and i know how things work), if that isn't ok for you, live with it | 20:58 |
| knome | i don't mean to be rude, but that's how it is :) | 20:59 |
| knome | if you want to continue on the subject, please join #xubuntu-offtopic | 20:59 |
| aperson | s/rude/elitist/ | 20:59 |
| Catbuntu | hi | 23:25 |
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