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| ScottK | Riddell: No more kdegames stuff in New. I did do some more fixups on a few before acceptings. | 05:26 |
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| ScottK | s/acceptings/accepting/ | 05:26 |
| kubotu | ScottK meant: "Riddell: No more kdegames stuff in New. I did do some more fixups on a few before accepting." | 05:26 |
| Tm_T | huh? | 06:10 |
| Tm_T | "What’s the largest desktop migration to Ubuntu so far?85,000 desktops. La Gendarmerie Nationale, part of the French police force, faced growing IT infrastructure costs and decided to review its existing Microsoft-based environment." | 06:11 |
| Tm_T | I thought we had way bigger | 06:11 |
| soee | good morning | 06:48 |
| invariant | When is 4.9.5 going to be released for precise? | 08:22 |
| tsdgeos | 4.9.5 doesn't exist yet | 08:42 |
| tsdgeos | if you are speaking of a kde sc release | 08:42 |
| invariant | tsdgeos, I am referring to a fix for 311246. | 08:59 |
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| yofel_ | kde bug 311246 | 09:05 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 311246 in general "Dolphin crashes when pasting files" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311246 | 09:05 |
| yofel_ | invariant: that should already be fixed in precise, do you still get the crash? | 09:07 |
| invariant | yofel_, yes | 09:08 |
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| invariant | yofel, I see that a new release has already been made. | 09:09 |
| yofel | invariant: what's the dolphin version that you have installed? | 09:09 |
| invariant | yofel, most likely that will solve it then. | 09:09 |
| yofel | please check, 4:4.9.4-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa2 should work | 09:10 |
| invariant | yofel, with kde-build-src, how can I set the configuration directory used (usually .kde)? | 09:10 |
| yofel | ~/.kde? That should be $KDEHOME if I remember correctly | 09:12 |
| invariant | yofel, ok, so if I just want to run one application from source, I can cp -r .kde .kdemy KDEHOME=.kdemy pathtomycompileddolphin ? | 09:13 |
| yofel | should work. But I can't really guarantee what will happen as I haven't done that in a long time | 09:15 |
| Riddell | new wallpaper http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/18/g4058-2560.png ! | 10:31 |
| Tm_T | so... KDE 3.2-esque? | 10:38 |
| Tm_T | or what it was | 10:39 |
| Tm_T | not bad, I like it | 10:39 |
| yofel | +1 - grey was depressive | 10:42 |
| Riddell | I approve of the purple, always have since feisty | 10:47 |
| soee | Riddell, this is the new wallp ? | 10:48 |
| Riddell | that's what I said | 10:49 |
| Tm_T | I like how in my laptop display that purple is almost blue while on external monitor it has strong pink/purple | 10:53 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 11:17 |
| Tm_T | ay hell | 11:24 |
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| apachelogger | my system is broken | 12:36 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 12:36 |
| Riddell | what happened? | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | I have no idea | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | initramfs gets stuck | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | when doing a modprobe on i915 | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | totallyw eird | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | well, actually the modprobe seems to get stuck | 12:37 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.kde.org/627224/ | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | stupid kms | 12:39 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: I had an important production environment failing to mount ext2 last week | 12:46 |
| Tm_T | I felt like a winner | 12:46 |
| * apachelogger sighs | 12:55 | |
| ScottK | Riddell: I'll be offline most of the day, but i think kde games are all done now. Would you please check and make sure there aren't any missing (i.e. rejected and not reuploaded)? | 13:07 |
| Riddell | ScottK: yep, got them all synced to bzr thanks for the fixes | 13:14 |
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| Quintasan | \o | 13:28 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Looking at plasma media center | 13:30 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: worth a try again | 13:31 |
| Riddell | ask ksinny for any help | 13:31 |
| Riddell | it needs a datamodel thing from plasma active | 13:31 |
| Riddell | and of course it needs nepomuk in a working state | 13:31 |
| Quintasan | apparently I have everything apart from QtMultimediaKit which is optional | 13:33 |
| Quintasan | well | 13:34 |
| Quintasan | it compiles | 13:34 |
| Quintasan | and runs | 13:34 |
| Quintasan | but does nothing | 13:35 |
| Riddell | hmm not sure that's optional | 13:36 |
| Riddell | if that's how it plays audio and video | 13:36 |
| Riddell | and it needs nepomuk and thingy plasma active data model | 13:36 |
| vHanda | AFAIK Nepomuk is optional | 13:37 |
| Riddell | it can browse files in a traditional way to some extent | 13:38 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: TBH it compiled just fine without qt magic | 13:38 |
| Quintasan | and it didn't whine about plasma-active data model | 13:39 |
| Quintasan | oh | 13:39 |
| Quintasan | wait | 13:39 |
| Quintasan | what | 13:39 |
| Quintasan | it fixed itself | 13:39 |
| Riddell | it doesn't whine | 13:40 |
| Riddell | it just won't work | 13:40 |
| Quintasan | well | 13:40 |
| Quintasan | it works | 13:40 |
| Quintasan | somehow it started working | 13:40 |
| Riddell | hmm | 13:41 |
| Quintasan | at first run I had only icons | 13:41 |
| Quintasan | and clicking on them did nothing | 13:41 |
| Quintasan | searching music is not as fast I wish it was | 13:42 |
| Quintasan | well | 13:42 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: Is there a public source on the web confirming the new wallpaper (which, BTW is awesome compared to the old depressing one) | 13:42 |
| Quintasan | it's not even beta, is it? | 13:42 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: Also, I have 13.04 to iron now full-time for daily use so feel free to ping me for testing, etc. :) | 13:43 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I can package it but I would not put it anywhere in repos | 13:45 |
| Quintasan | I'd rather do a weekly build for it in PPA | 13:45 |
| Riddell | new wallpapers in http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.10/kde-wallpapers/ | 13:46 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: You can't even navigate using keyboard alone or mouse alone right now | 13:46 |
| ronnoc | Quintasan: If you enable a PPA for PMC, ping me for testing | 13:46 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: I'll remember to make use of that promise :) | 13:47 |
| Quintasan | ronnoc: I won't create a PPA just for it, it will be part of both project neon and I think I'll either put it in my ppa | 13:47 |
| Quintasan | or | 13:47 |
| jussi | ronnoc: +++++ on the old wallpaper being depressing... | 13:47 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Can we put weeklies in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental? | 13:47 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: well you can but since the point of that PPA is to be able to throw random things in who knows what it'll build against | 13:48 |
| * ronnoc Is willing to bet people went to Mint KDE just because the wallpaper kicked ass | 13:48 | |
| jussi | ronnoc: hehe, some I guess :P | 13:48 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I'll put it to staging then | 13:49 |
| ronnoc | jussi: :) | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | system fixed \o/ | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, ScottK: unless I did something wrong kdm would always end up on VT8 by default | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | (plymouth starts on 7 and supposedly due to KMS it is considered in use by KDM, so it uses the next free one) | 13:50 |
| ronnoc | Quintasan: Since I'm running 13.04 no sense in me installing PN yet is there? I would just like to have a testing respoitory somewhere for it. If it's your personal one or whatever just let me know :) | 13:50 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: I'll look forward to it. This release is going to be hella-solid. | 13:51 |
| Quintasan | I think it will be in my private PPA for now | 13:51 |
| Quintasan | oh wait | 13:53 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: how did you fix it? | 13:53 |
| Quintasan | ronnoc: We already have dailies for plasma-mediacenter | 13:53 |
| Quintasan | using Project Neon | 13:53 |
| ronnoc | Quintasan: That applicacable to 13.04 as well? | 13:54 |
| Quintasan | oh well | 13:54 |
| Quintasan | not really | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: drop the patch | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | actually I just noticed that plymouth quit is async, so the init job prolly has to wait | 13:55 |
| ronnoc | Quintasan: that's what I thought. hence my desire for a PPA :p | 13:55 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: moi? | 13:57 |
| yofel | Quintasan: the last thing I heard about the PN PMC builds was that they don't work (thanks to qtmobility). I haven't looked at it since then | 14:04 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: did you follow build steps at http://www.sinny.in/node/25 ? | 14:05 |
| Riddell | there's a guy has packages in blueleaflinux/ppa | 14:06 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: more or less | 14:06 |
| Quintasan | yofel: I have no idea why that compiles | 14:08 |
| Quintasan | yofel: libqt4-opengl-dev, shared-desktop-ontologies are required deps yet our pn package has no such things | 14:08 |
| Riddell | -dev is a required dep? | 14:09 |
| Riddell | kde-runtime brings in shared-desktop-ontologies | 14:09 |
| yofel | -kdelibs pulls in SDO and opengl, and qt4opengl is part of -qt | 14:09 |
| yofel | Quintasan: so it builds fine, but mobility seems to cause a mess | 14:10 |
| Quintasan | mmkay | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: nah, me | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | le crap | 14:15 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: using the one from blueleaflinux/ppa it has keyboard navigation | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | plymouth quit && plymouth --wait does not work | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | plymouth quit && plymouth --wait && sleep 1 does work | 14:15 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Well, I don't really care about what's there, I'll ask the packager if he is going to upstream his changes | 14:16 |
| Quintasan | ronnoc: add ppa:quintasan/ppa and wait | 14:17 |
| Quintasan | ronnoc: https://code.launchpad.net/~quintasan/+recipe/plasma-mediacenter-weekly | 14:17 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: I don't think he's made any changes, he's just done packages | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | theoretically it should build at first try | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Then he has something that upstream didn't do | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | cloned the repo as is, compiled and still can't navigate everything using keyboard only | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | for example when you browse pictures | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | you select one | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | it goes full screen | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | and arrows on keyboard do nothing here | 14:19 |
| Riddell | oh I don't know about everywhere | 14:19 |
| Riddell | that might be asking a bit much :) | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | really? | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | I though browsing through pictures using arrows and page up/down is common | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | it doesnt play gifs | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, ScottK: so.... unless we make the upstart script sleep for one second I can always make it go to VT8 as VT7 is at that point still used by plymouth despite using plymouth --wait | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | opinions? | 14:24 |
| Quintasan | ronnoc: raring build is apparently up | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: control via keys is not a prime use case if you are designing for pointer based input devices | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: It's a freaking media canter | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | center* | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | well | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | You don't use a mouse to navigate that | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | I did not say mouse | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | >pointer-based | 14:26 |
| Quintasan | You implied it | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | imagine a touch screeny device DLNAing crap to your TV set or, for all intents and purposes, just sending the video signal there | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | would not have a physical keyboard nor would you want one in that setup | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | OTOH a computer wired to your TV would probably have key based input | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | in fact, the TV does too ^^ | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | so if you are designing for former you'd not care and if you were designing for latter you'd very much care | 14:30 |
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| apachelogger | (seeing as former is however a very hightechy setup one gets to wonder whether it should be the target :P) | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | (also it implies upnp support, which we do not have) | 14:31 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: we don't use kdm so I don't think it matters much and we should drop the patch | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: we agreed on that already, now I am telling you that dropping the patch requires additional changes to the init job such as a sleep 1 | 14:32 |
| Riddell | oh meh | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/627266/ | 14:34 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: well yeah looks ok | 14:36 |
| * apachelogger really wonders why that sleep is needed though :( | 14:36 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: bug 641712 what to do? | 14:42 |
| ubottu | bug 641712 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Not possible to enter password for a new user in KDM (Maverick, Natty and Oneiric)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641712 | 14:42 |
| * Riddell adds homerun to the seed | 14:58 | |
| Riddell | hi ricktimmis | 15:01 |
| ricktimmis | Hey Jonathan, how are you today ? | 15:01 |
| Riddell | ca va | 15:02 |
| ricktimmis | Tre bienne | 15:02 |
| ricktimmis | I'm working through the MOTU docs, and getting a Dev environment setup. | 15:02 |
| ricktimmis | Didn't look at patching Ubiquity yet to test, as wasn'y sure how to approach it, and didn't want to look daft asking. | 15:03 |
| ricktimmis | What I mean by this is | 15:03 |
| Riddell | ricktimmis: actually I put the patch in, but it still needs testing | 15:03 |
| Riddell | ricktimmis: so if you can grab a daily image and test that would be uber cool | 15:03 |
| ricktimmis | Do I patch a prebuild then make an ISO, or can I simply patch the ISO and try the installer with the new code, or am I so far off I should really go RTFM | 15:03 |
| ricktimmis | Ah ha is it patched now in the daily build ? | 15:04 |
| Riddell | ricktimmis: yes, so needs testing before anyone notices it's broken | 15:05 |
| ricktimmis | Ah right OK, well I have today's buildin Testdrive, will do it for you now, brb | 15:05 |
| * Riddell out for a bit | 15:08 | |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: ping | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Since we got moved to universe, can't we just build amarok with all features? | 15:18 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: ping | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | gotta package kdevelop | 15:26 |
| Quintasan | yofel: bad things will happen if I upgrade to 4.9.90? | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | oh well | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | whatever | 15:29 |
| yofel | not really | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | I will be installing raring anyways | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | INSTALL ALL THE THINGS | 15:29 |
| yofel | today should be rc1 tagging anyway | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | oh | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | so new kdevelop is in raring | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | but we ain't got backports | 15:30 |
| yofel | uhm, 4.4.1 is in quantal-updates - is there something newer? | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | it is there? | 15:31 |
| * Quintasan didn't notice it there | 15:31 | |
| Quintasan | whatever | 15:31 |
| yofel | !info kdevelop quantal-updates | 15:31 |
| ubottu | 'quantal-updates' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable | 15:31 |
| yofel | uhuh... | 15:31 |
| yofel | !info kdevelop quantal | 15:31 |
| ubottu | kdevelop (source: kdevelop): integrated development environment for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.3.90-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 1221 kB, installed size 4835 kB | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | See | 15:31 |
| yofel | !info kdevelop quantal-proposed | 15:31 |
| ubottu | Package kdevelop does not exist in quantal-proposed | 15:31 |
| yofel | this is le broken | 15:32 |
| yofel | 4:4.4.1-0ubuntu0.1 0 | 15:32 |
| yofel | 500 http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/universe amd64 Packages | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | I believe shadeslayer broke it | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | mfw I started hacking on Amarok | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | I have absloutely no idea what I'm doing | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | but I pray it will work | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | if it doesn't then I won't be able to avoid reading docs | 15:33 |
| Quintasan | Pakiet: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-l10n-pl_4%3a4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1_all.deb | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | Błąd: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/plasma_applet_printmanager.mo', which is also in package print-manager 0.2.0-0ubuntu3 | 15:36 |
| yofel | Quintasan: will you fix that or should I? | 15:39 |
| Quintasan | yofel: go ahead | 15:40 |
| Quintasan | Don't want to break the Philip Muškovac streak over there :P | 15:41 |
| ricktimmis | Ridell: I have ISO 2012-12-18 06:42 - The fault persists, and appears unchanged from last weeks image. | 15:41 |
| yofel | lol | 15:41 |
| Quintasan | brb | 15:42 |
| ricktimmis | Riddell: No check box for Encrypt, and Radio button are all Mutex. | 15:42 |
| Quintasan | Works | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | huh? | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | whut | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | from rmadison : kdevelop | 4:4.4.1-0ubuntu0.1 | quantal-updates/universe | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | whats wrong? | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | ubottu is broken | 16:37 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about is broken | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | don't blame me | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | that new wallpaper is really nice | 16:38 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: +1 for Homerun. Should be the default IMHO. | 16:47 |
| ronnoc | Quintasan: Ok. Up where exactly? PN? | 16:48 |
| soee | no signs of rc1 ? | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | not yet | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | and it's tagging day today | 16:54 |
| shadeslayer | release probably will take a couple of days | 16:54 |
| soee | :) | 16:55 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: kio-mtp ping, do you guys have a release planned? | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | or should I ask someone to upload my git snapshot? | 16:57 |
| afiestas | no | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: so just upload a git snapshot? | 16:57 |
| shadeslayer | overall testing has been positive ... so just wondering | 16:58 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: pong | 17:01 |
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| apachelogger | ScottK: random thoughts on bug 1090788 ? | 17:04 |
| ubottu | bug 1090788 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Please do not use plasma-netbook for netbooks (wishlist)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1090788 | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | yofel: ^ | 17:04 |
| yofel | would make it kinda useless - but I wouldn't vote against it if asked | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | yofel: would make what useless? | 17:06 |
| simplew | running 'kcmshell4 userconfig' crashes in raring | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | backtrace? | 17:10 |
| apachelogger | ricktimmis: FWIW, encrypting /home has a sizable impact on performance so defaulting to encryption sounds like a very bad idea (i.e. flame war ahead) | 17:13 |
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| ricktimmis | apachelogger: No FW, that's fine, without overhead then defaulting to the most Secure state would seem appeal, but I agree don't do it if it creates a big overhead. Interestingly after posting that, I noticed that Lubuntu appears to have this working the way we would want. | 17:16 |
| simplew | apachelogger: its due to new python | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | ricktimmis: you mean autologin and encryption not being mutually exclusive? | 17:17 |
| simplew | apachelogger: tell how cani gdb 'kcmshell4 userconfig' | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | when a kde app crashes you should get a backtrace | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | also gdb --args foo bar foobar randomarg more random args | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu_fix_screenshot_compile.diff ... not documented ... not mentioned in the changelog ... hooray | 17:19 |
| ricktimmis | apachelogger: Not quite they are Mutex in Lubuntu, but my thinking was the 2nd drive for /home use case where a stolen drive would benefit from encryption even if the user never realised encryption was enable, but perhaps that's an exception to prove the rule. | 17:20 |
| * apachelogger bzr blames JontheEchidna | 17:20 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: y u no document patches? | 17:20 |
| ricktimmis | apachelogger: Out everything I posted the bit about hidding this from the user and defaulting to a Password login appeals, trying to keep things as simple as possible. | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | ricktimmis: well, you can turn on autologin after install | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | I think that allowing every possible option should not be a concern of the installer | 17:21 |
| apachelogger | ricktimmis: I am all for hiding things ;) | 17:22 |
| ricktimmis | apachelogger: Agreed, me too. | 17:22 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what's that patch do and why is it there and why is it not upstream and ...? | 17:22 |
| ricktimmis | apacherlogger: I posted because I understood from the report that a fix had been commited, I tested todays build of Raring, and the issue still appeared to be there. Most likely because I don't know what I am doing yet ! | 17:23 |
| simplew | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448005/ | 17:23 |
| apachelogger | ricktimmis: it may be that the fix did not yet land on the build | 17:24 |
| apachelogger | ricktimmis: the change is not in the archive yet from what I can see | 17:26 |
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| simplew | apachelogger: good enough? | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | simplew: do you get an error output as well? | 17:27 |
| apachelogger | fatalerror sounds like there should be an error message somewhere | 17:27 |
| simplew | apachelogger: an error output? | 17:27 |
| simplew | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448017 | 17:28 |
| simplew | apachelogger: like i said, its due to new python, userconfid needs to build against new python | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | ah yes | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | argument order seems to have changed in python 3.2 | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/vim_dev/5MYb23t9ZBM | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ^ enjoy | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | simplew: userconfig is written entirely in python it needs no building at all | 17:30 |
| simplew | apachelogger: another thing, when in the window 'kcmshell4 userconfig' isnt possible to have the groups sorted by name | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | userconfig is unmaintained | 17:34 |
| simplew | so if isnt maintanined anymore why it continues to be packaged? | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | because it works(tm) | 17:35 |
| simplew | well now doesnt | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | whoop | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | pykde4 doesn't | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | more specifically the kpythonpluginfactory is not working | 17:36 |
| simplew | still if is packaged in kubuntu it should be maintained in some way, so why bother reporting bugs and provide support? | 17:37 |
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| apachelogger | simplew: perhaps someone will pick it up continue development | 17:42 |
| simplew | apachelogger: i dont think thats a valid option, if its part of kubuntu default packages must be supported | 17:43 |
| simplew | apachelogger: else dropped | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | except I did not say it is not support | 17:43 |
| apachelogger | I said it is not maintained | 17:43 |
| simplew | apachelogger: well its has severall bugs, like not being able to sort groups by name, when you are creating a user and you set some group before the user is created the group name disapepars | 17:47 |
| simplew | apachelogger: so unless someone maintains it should be dropped | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | feel free to discuss it on the mailing list | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | simplew: whenever https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/staging/+build/4072217 is finished you can get a new version from ppa:apachelogger/staging which should fix the crash | 17:50 |
| * apachelogger leaves for today | 17:50 | |
| simplew | apachelogger: how much time will take to appear on mirrors? | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | there are no mirrors because I have not uploaded it to the archive because I have no raring setup to test the change | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | so when that build there finishes it should be available from the ppa immediately or you can simply grab the debs manually | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | there are only like 3 or 4 anyway | 17:52 |
| apachelogger | now really -> away | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: <alaa> I have a question,is kubuntu.org/feature-tour really has screenshots that goes back to KDE 4.3.2 ?! | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | from #kubuntu-devel | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 18:26 |
| shadeslayer | #kubuntu | 18:26 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: very likely | 18:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: invite him to help fix it | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | he's gone | 18:43 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: I'll help get it in shape. Who do I talk to? Also, is Calligra going to be coming back into the daily builds? | 19:11 |
| soee | i can help to with website stuff :) | 19:15 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: the feature tour? | 19:16 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: make improvements and we'll put them in | 19:17 |
| Riddell | ooh all the helpers now | 19:17 |
| ronnoc | ok. will play around with it and send via mailing list, if that's the preferred way. | 19:19 |
| ricktimmis | apachelogger: Sorry was away for dinner, I see OK. I will watch out for the patch being release into the daily build and test when I can. Thanx | 19:19 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: daily builds as in neon? I don't have much to do with that | 19:20 |
| Riddell | but there's a new calligra I just uploaded could do with a test | 19:21 |
| Riddell | in raring | 19:21 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: If I have Calligra installed in Raring should I just update to get the latest? | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: did you upload ktp? because I forgot the meta package in there | 19:23 |
| Riddell | not yet | 19:23 |
| shadeslayer | ah cool | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | uploaded it then | 19:24 |
| Riddell | still eating this haggis pizza | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 19:24 |
| ronnoc | heh | 19:24 |
| ronnoc | Ok downloaded the updated Calligra. Will have a go and try to break things. | 19:24 |
| ronnoc | wow Krita is only 3.6MB. It's half the size of Stage! Who wudda thunk it. | 19:26 |
| Riddell | ronnoc: I'd guess templates take up the space? | 19:46 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw any ideas why we don't ship whoopsie? | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | seems like everyone else ships it | 19:53 |
| Riddell | nope | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | something to investigate ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker | 19:54 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: we have an open bug that everyone else fixed - I'm just not convinced by the "fix" | 19:55 |
| shadeslayer | oh, which one? | 19:55 |
| yofel | why should kubuntu-desktop depend on it when apport is the only thing that uses it? | 19:55 |
| iulian_ | hello, can someone please can help me to fix this http://paste.kde.org/627428/ | 19:56 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: bug 1001630 | 19:56 |
| ubottu | bug 1001630 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop etc. no longer upload crash reports as of Precise" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001630 | 19:56 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 19:57 |
| shadeslayer | I agree | 19:57 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: I just noticed this because apport prompts me to send reports | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | but I didn't see anything being sent | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | which is just as bad | 19:58 |
| Riddell | iulian_: /usr/share/applications/kde/kresources.desktop looks like a file you installed yourself, it's not in any of our packages | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | so yeah, needs fixing in apport | 19:59 |
| Riddell | iulian_: when I look at that im-switch file it looks fine so I guess you're on quantal or older? I'm on raring | 20:00 |
| iulian_ | kubuntu 10.10 kde 4.5.5 | 20:00 |
| Riddell | iulian_: ooh that's old, time to upgrade :) | 20:01 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: Yea definately all the included templates in Stage make it bigger - but I was equally suprised at the small size of Krita for all it does :) | 20:01 |
| iulian_ | yes, yes just messed up some icons after upgrades think its something with hicolor-icon-theme | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | actually | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ~ » desktop-file-validate /usr/share/app-install/desktop/im-switch:im-switch.desktop shadeslayer@solembum | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | /usr/share/app-install/desktop/im-switch:im-switch.desktop: error: value "Settings" for string list key "Categories" in group "Desktop Entry" does not have a semicolon (';') as trailing character | 20:02 |
| shadeslayer | on raring | 20:03 |
| shadeslayer | same for /usr/share/applications/im-switch.desktop | 20:03 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ooh you're right | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | but it's more or less a warning and an upstream issue | 20:04 |
| Riddell | well it's a native package | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 20:05 |
| * Quintasan was successful at thread managment in Qt | 20:05 | |
| Quintasan | http://paste.kde.org/627434 | 20:05 |
| Quintasan | not that actually solves anything | 20:05 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 20:05 |
| Riddell | iulian_: ok so there is a wee something to fix, download the package, fix it, add changelog, rebuild source, get debdiff, report bug. let me know if you need help with any of that | 20:06 |
| Quintasan | the next line blocks IO so I'm back at start | 20:06 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 20:06 |
| Quintasan | and the worst thing is | 20:07 |
| Quintasan | there is a method to write tags using threads | 20:07 |
| Quintasan | but there isn't one to read tags | 20:07 |
| Quintasan | and the next line is fucking reading the tag | 20:07 |
| Quintasan | !@$%$@# | 20:07 |
| iulian_ | Riddell: it's not bug there is how file look http://paste.kde.org/627452/ | 20:08 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Did you know that amarok did tag writing in the main thread? | 20:08 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 20:08 |
| Quintasan | It essentialy caused the whole ui to freeze is you tired to tag more files at once | 20:09 |
| Quintasan | The music would be still playing | 20:09 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6PZhONZ3Ac | 20:09 |
| Quintasan | even if you killed the amarok window using ctrl+esc :D | 20:09 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 20:09 |
| Quintasan | I'm trying | 20:10 |
| Quintasan | I don't think I'll be able to though | 20:10 |
| Riddell | iulian_: there's no file at /usr/share/kde/services/kresources.desktop | 20:11 |
| Riddell | there was one at /usr/share/kde4/services/kresources.desktop but not any more | 20:11 |
| Riddell | so that issue isn't valid | 20:11 |
| Riddell | but the im-switch one can be fixed if you like | 20:12 |
| iulian_ | ok, but what i have installed ro appear this file, seems like i have two desktop entries | 20:14 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I would like upstream's opinion. Plasma netbook is somewhat under maintained these days. In general thought, I think the proposed change would not align well with being close to upstream. Additionally, except for the page one thing, I don't find it particularly buggy. | 20:23 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: re bug 641712 - wontfix. | 20:24 |
| ubottu | bug 641712 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Not possible to enter password for a new user in KDM (Maverick, Natty and Oneiric)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641712 | 20:24 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks for checking, re KDE games. | 20:25 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: breakage on armhf build of ktp-call-ui 0.5.2-0ubuntu1 in ubuntu raring PROPOSED | 20:28 |
| shadeslayer | yep, on it | 20:29 |
| shadeslayer | chroot problem? | 20:29 |
| shadeslayer | can't do much about it :P | 20:29 |
| Quintasan | ask lp admins to fix it | 20:30 |
| * Quintasan hides | 20:30 | |
| yofel | just retry and hope you get a different builder this time | 20:31 |
| ronnoc | Has anyone tried the Ubuntu One Client on Raring yet? Or does anyone here use Ubnutu One? (I'm assuming not likely :P ) | 20:35 |
| Riddell | not I | 20:36 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: nasl is broken :P | 20:36 |
| ronnoc | Riddell: Ok. Seems to be broken in Raring. I submitted a bug. | 20:37 |
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| shadeslayer | heh, tp-logger-qt got nasl again | 20:39 |
| rick_timmis | ronnoc: I use Ubuntu One, as a DropBox type of system, not Music though | 22:11 |
| Quintasan | ronnoc: did you get the pmc build for raring or it failed? | 22:30 |
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| shadeslayer | kewl | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | RC1 uploaded | 22:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can you run the initial upload? | 22:57 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: mm? | 23:03 |
| Riddell | oh, a late night SC release | 23:03 |
| Riddell | let's see what I can do | 23:04 |
| shadeslayer | aye | 23:04 |
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| shadeslayer | apol: jumpy much? :P | 23:31 |
| Riddell | hmm it is public | 23:33 |
| Riddell | a mistake somewhere I think, RCs don't get a lot of packager time but they do need test compiles | 23:34 |
| Riddell | or not, according to albert | 23:34 |
| shadeslayer | really? 0.o | 23:35 |
| shadeslayer | I also don't see a announcement on kde.org | 23:35 |
| apol | well... the _early_ component in testing is important... | 23:35 |
| shadeslayer | also | 23:35 |
| shadeslayer | The tarballs are in their usual packager-only location (unstable/4.9.95) | 23:35 |
| shadeslayer | keyword being packager-only | 23:35 |
| shadeslayer | so I think it's a mistake | 23:36 |
| Riddell | it's public so it's mirrored before the announce tomorrow apparantly | 23:36 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 23:36 |
| shadeslayer | I blame albert, he said packagers only location | 23:36 |
| shadeslayer | so I didn't check public repos | 23:36 |
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